[00:08:43] BUT ONE OF THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCES BETWEEN PICKLEBALL AND TENNIS [00:08:46] IS THE NET. A PICKLEBALL NET SITS AT 34 INCHES IN THE MIDDLE, WHILE SITTING AT 36 INCHES AT THE SIDE. A TENNIS NET IS TALLER, 36 INCHES AT THE CENTER, AND 42 INCHES AT THE POST. THE LOWER, FLATTER PICKLEBALL NET IS WHAT ALLOWS FOR THOSE SOFT DINKS AND STRATEGIC KITCHEN MOVES THAT THE GAME IS KNOWN FOR. IF YOU'RE SWITCHING FROM ONE SPORT TO THE OTHER, KEEP THAT IN MIND. [00:20:48] RUN BY YOU. IF A COMMITTEE CHAIR MOVES TO ADJOURN, COULD A. [00:22:54] METRO TV 30S, PLEASE. [Call to Order] [00:24:10] GOOD AFTERNOON. THE TIME IS 4:02 P.M. THIS IS THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. I'M YOUR CHAIR, COUNCILMAN DAN SIMON, AND I'M JOINED BY MY VICE CHAIR, COUNCILWOMAN TAMMY HAWKINS. TODAY WE HAVE THE FOLLOWING [Roll Call] COMMITTEE MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE. COMMITTEE MEMBER ANDREW OWING OWN VIRTUALLY COMMITTEE MEMBER JONATHAN JOSEPH, COMMITTEE MEMBER SCOTT REED VIRTUALLY. MARKUS. WINKLER VIRTUALLY. COMMITTEE MEMBER. BETSY ROONEY. COMMITTEE MEMBER KEVIN BRATCHER AND JENNY MULVEY WOOLDRIDGE. WE'RE ALSO JOINED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER JP LEININGER. DOES SHAMIKA HAVE A. THANK YOU? THANK YOU. AND WE ALSO HAVE KEN HERNDON. I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN HERNDON. CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE [00:25:07] READ THE VIRTUAL MEETING LANGUAGE? THIS MEETING IS BEING HELD PURSUANT TO CRS 61.826 AND COUNCIL RULE FIVE A READ IN FULL. THANK YOU, MISS CLARK. WE HAVE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THAT INCLUDE ONE ITEM FOR DISCUSSION AND FOR ORDINANCES. PLEASE NOTE ITEM NUMBER THREE AND ITEM NUMBER FIVE WILL BE HELD IN COMMITTEE AND WILL BE HEARD AT OUR MEETING ON WEDNESDAY, JUNE 3RD. WE WILL HEAR ITEM NUMBER TWO AND ITEM NUMBER SIX. FOLLOWING THE SPECIAL DISCUSSION, WE HAVE A FULL AGENDA TODAY, SO I WOULD REQUEST THAT GUESTS KEEP THEIR OPENING COMMENTS TO UNDER TEN MINUTES, AND THEN WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS. COMMITTEE MEMBERS, PLEASE LIMIT YOURSELF TO TWO QUESTIONS AT A TIME BEFORE REJOINING THE QUEUE. [Special Discussion] TODAY, WE'RE JOINED BY GEORGE ECKLUND WITH THE COALITION FOR THE HOMELESS, FOR AN UPDATE FROM OUTREACH AND COMMUNITY STABILIZATION PARTNERS. ALSO JOINING GEORGE IS SHANE SLAUGHTER WITH EXODUS FAMILY MINISTRIES, BRIAN MCADAMS WITH SAINT JOHN CENTER, DAVID SMYLIE WITH LOUISVILLE OUTREACH FOR THE UNSHELTERED, AND BALAJI OGBOLU WITH HABITAT FOR HUMANITY OF METRO LOUISVILLE. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME. AND FOR THE RECORD, AND YOU MAY BEGIN. YEAH. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YEAH. THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIRMAN. MY NAME IS GEORGE ECKLUND. I WORK AS THE DIRECTOR OF EDUCATION AND ADVOCACY FOR THE COALITION FOR THE HOMELESS. A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE LANDSCAPE AND DECIDED THAT ALL OF THE HOUSING PARTNERS THAT WORK IN THIS SPACE BAND TOGETHER AND COME WITH IT TO COUNCIL WITH A COHESIVE BUDGET ASK. AND THAT IS HOW THE SAFE AND STABLE BUDGET CAMPAIGN GOT BORN. AND THE IDEA IS THAT WE ALL KNOW THAT THERE ARE DIFFERENT FRICTION POINTS ALONG THE HOUSING CONTINUUM. AND WITH STRATEGIC SYSTEMS LEVEL INVESTMENT, I THINK WE CAN UNFREEZE SOME OF THOSE FRICTION POINTS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN MOVE UP AND DOWN THE CONTINUUM BY CHOICE, NOT BY ECONOMICS. I VIEW THIS AS REALLY A BEGINNING OF A CONVERSATION WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. JUST BECAUSE I SEE SO MUCH MOMENTUM AT THE STATE LEVEL, AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, THE INVESTMENTS THAT YOU ALL HAVE PUT INTO HOUSING, THAT I THINK THE CONVERSATION NEEDS TO START OF, HOW DO WE LEVERAGE HOUSING, THE ENERGY AROUND HOUSING TO FURTHER OUR PUBLIC SAFETY GOALS? I THINK THAT THERE ARE TWO OPPORTUNITIES ON THE FIELD OF PLAY RIGHT NOW. ONE IS, HOW DO WE USE HOMELESS OUTREACH TO FURTHER THOSE PUBLIC SAFETY GOALS? HOW DO WE MAKE THAT? HOW DO WE MARSHAL THAT RESOURCE SO THAT WE ARE GETTING BETTER RESULTS FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY? I THINK THE OTHER OPPORTUNITY ON THE FIELD OF PLAY RIGHT NOW IS, WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT VACANT AND ABANDONED PROPERTY AND HOW DO WE DO STRATEGIC REPAIRS OF HOUSING SO THAT WE ARE REALLY USING THAT HOUSING STOCK TO KEEP PEOPLE IN PLACE, BUT ALSO KEEP COMMUNITIES IN PLACE? YOU KNOW, VACANT HOUSE ATTRACTS CRIME, VACANT HOUSE ATTRACTS OTHER ISSUES. HOW DO WE PREVENT VACANCY THROUGH STRATEGIC REPAIRS? SO FOR ME, YOU KNOW, TRUE PUBLIC SAFETY IS NOT JUST ABOUT THE ABSENCE OF CRIME. LIKE IT'S ABOUT THE PRESENCE OF STABLE HOUSING, STRONG NEIGHBORHOODS, AND CONNECTED COMMUNITIES. AND I THINK WE WANT THIS TO BEGIN TO BE THE BEGINNING OF A CONVERSATION. SO I'M GOING TO HAVE ABOUT FOUR SPEAKERS COME TO THE PODIUM JUST TO KIND OF GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW OF KIND OF THEIR TAKE ON PUBLIC SAFETY AND HOW IT INTERSECTS WITH HOUSING, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE SOME TIME FOR QUESTIONS AT THE AT THE END. AND SO I'M GOING TO INVITE DAVID SMILEY WITH LOUISVILLE OUTREACH FOR UNSHELTERED TO COME TO THE PODIUM TO TALK ABOUT OUTREACH. HELLO. THANK YOU EVERYBODY. DAVID SMILEY, LOUISVILLE OUTREACH FOR THE UNSHELTERED. I BELIEVE YOU HAVE THE SLIDE UP. OH. SO I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT SORT OF THE BASICS OF STREET OUTREACH. I THINK WE FIND THAT TOO OFTEN THE TERM OUTREACH IS MISUNDERSTOOD IN OUR CITY, AND IT'S OFTEN FRAMED AS A HANDOUT WHEN IN ACTUALITY, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE SLIDE, THOSE OF US INVOLVED IN THIS WORK VIEW THIS AS STREET MEDICINE. IT'S A SKILLED AND STRATEGIC APPROACH. EVERYONE FROM GRASSROOTS ORGANIZATIONS TO GOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATIONS WORKING COHESIVELY TO TRY AND CONNECT PEOPLE TO RESOURCES AND TO BREAK DOWN BARRIERS TO ACCESS FOR THOSE WHO ARE LIVING DIRECTLY ON THE STREETS, EVEN HOUSING INSECURITY, ALL THE DIFFERENT FORMS OF OF HOMELESSNESS. OUR OUTREACH TEAMS MEET PEOPLE ON THE STREET WHERE THEY ARE IN THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT THEY LIVE IN, AND WE TRY AND GAIN TRUST THROUGH CONSISTENCY WITH OUR [00:30:03] SERVES. WE FEED THEM IF THAT'S WHAT THEY NEED, IF THEY'RE READY TO GET AN ID, A BIRTH CERTIFICATE, A SOCIAL SECURITY CARD TRYING TO ESTABLISH THEIR IDENTITY, WE FIND THAT OVER TIME, SUPPLYING THESE SERVICES TO PEOPLE WILL HELP TO BUILD CONFIDENCE AND BUILD TOWARDS ULTIMATELY PERMANENT STABILITY IN HOUSING. AND WE SEE THESE SUCCESS STORIES ALL THE TIME IN OUTREACH. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TRY AND TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT IS NOT LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS THAT WE SEE OF THE PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS AS THESE STATIC NUMBERS, UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S NOT A BUCKET OF PEOPLE, IT'S NOT A PROBLEM TO BE SOLVED. IT'S PEOPLE, OUR NEIGHBORS TO BE WORKED WITH, TO BE RECOGNIZED AND TO BE HELPED. THIS HAS A HUGE EFFECT ON PUBLIC SAFETY, BECAUSE IF WE CAN MAINTAIN ACCESS TO THE PEOPLE THAT WE SERVE AND WORK TOWARDS THAT PERMANENT STABILITY, THEN WE CAN KEEP PEOPLE OFF THE STREETS. WE CAN ULTIMATELY REDUCE CRIME. AND YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE STATISTICS UP THERE, 80% REDUCTIONS IN ER VISITS, 130% REDUCTIONS IN JAIL VISITS, 80% REDUCTION IN PROBABILITY OF COMMITTING A CRIME, AND A 24% INCREASE IN EMPLOYMENT. THESE ARE SOME OF THE REAL WORLD STATS THAT WE'RE SEEING AS A RESULT OF GETTING PEOPLE HOUSED. WHAT OUTREACH DOES AT ALL LEVELS IS CREATE THAT FIRST POINT OF CONTACT FOR INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS TO GET THEM WHERE THEY NEED TO BE FOR WHATEVER CIRCUMSTANCE THEY MAY HAVE. AND SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE ATTENDED THE BEYOND THE BRIDGE SCREENING RECENTLY. COLLABORATION IS THE KEY TO SUCCESS IN THAT REGARD. OPEN COMMUNICATION, AND TOGETHER WE CAN MAKE A REAL IMPACT ON THAT. THANK YOU. MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND FOR YOUR ATTENTION. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE. FOR THE RECORD, I AM BRIAN MCADAMS, THE MANAGER OF THE STREET HOMELESS OUTREACH TEAM FOR SAINT JOHN'S CENTER. I HAVE THE HONOR OF LEADING A GROUP OF SIX PEOPLE IN DOING STREET OUTREACH IN THE CITY. IT IS THE BEST JOB I'VE EVER HAD. I HAVE THE CHANCE TO SPEAK TO SO MANY OF OUR FELLOW CITIZENS WHO ARE IN DESPERATE TIMES. I LOOK THIS MORNING WE HAVE 641. LAST YEAR I LOOKED. SINCE A YEAR AGO. TODAY, MY TEAM INTERACTED WITH 641 HOMELESS PEOPLE IN THIS CITY. AND OF THOSE 105, 105 OF THEM ARE NOW HOUSED. WE WORKED DILIGENTLY TO HELP PEOPLE REACH FROM HOMELESSNESS INTO STABILITY, INTO HOUSING. SOMETIMES THAT INVOLVES THE VERY BASICS OF BUILDING RAPPORT THAT MY COLLEAGUE DAVID TALKED ABOUT, OF HELPING SOMEONE GET AN ID, HELPING THEM GET FOOD TO SURVIVE. I FOUND IT'S PRETTY HARD TO HOUSE DEAD PEOPLE, GETTING THEM MEDICAL CARE, WORKING THE WAY, BUILDING THE RAPPORT AND BUILDING THE TRUST AND HELPING THEM TO MEET THE NEEDS NECESSARY FOR THEM TO LEAVE HOMELESSNESS FOR GOOD. WE ARE THRILLED TO DO THAT WITH OUR COLLEAGUES. WE ARE HONORED TO DO THAT. YOU MAY KNOW SAINT JOHN CENTER. WE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS WORK, THE SAINT JOHN'S CENTER FOR 40 YEARS. WE TRY TO BE OPEN EVERY SINGLE DAY. I WORKED CHRISTMAS DAY LAST YEAR AT THE SHELTER. WE ARE WORRIED THAT WITH CUTS AND BUDGETS, WHAT WOULD IT BE LIKE TO FOR THE SAFETY COMMITTEE TO THINK ABOUT? WHAT WOULD IT BE LIKE TO HAVE TWO DAYS A WEEK WITHOUT SAINT JOHN'S CENTER BEING OPEN FOR OUR COLLEAGUES TO COME, OUR FRIENDS TO COME GET HELP? THE WORK THAT WE DO, THE WORK THAT MY COLLEAGUES AND I DO ARE WORKING TO HELP MAINTAIN THE CITY THAT I GREW UP IN, THE CITY I WAS GRADUATING FROM HIGH SCHOOL IN BECOME A STABLE, SAFE, WONDERFUL PLACE TO LIVE. THANK YOU. YEAH. SO, I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT BRIAN AND DAVID REALLY DO IS THEY MAKE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING WORK. THEY CREATE THE DOOR THAT THEY THAT, THAT PEOPLE CAN WALK THROUGH AND ENGAGE WITH THE SYSTEM BECAUSE THEY BUILD THE TRUST THERE. AND I THINK A GREAT EXAMPLE OF SOMEBODY WHO DOESN'T TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER IS SHANE AND THE WORK THAT HE'S DOING ON THE SOUTH END. AND SO HE'S JUST GOING TO SHARE A COUPLE LIKE REALLY, REALLY, REALLY POIGNANT, LIKE SUCCESS STORIES, JUST SO THAT WE KNOW THAT YES, MACRO WISE, WE KNOW THAT WE PUT HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE IN HOUSING EACH YEAR, BUT THIS IS THESE ARE REALLY GOOD STORIES HERE. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS SHANE SCHLATER, AND I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR EXODUS FAMILY MINISTRIES. I GET THE FUN PART. I GET TO TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS ON THE OTHER SIDE. WHENEVER WE ARE ABLE TO SEE INDIVIDUALS COME OFF THE STREET TO A STABLE ENVIRONMENT, THE THE NUMBER ONE STORY I HAVE IS IS FOR JASON, WHICH I HAVE PERMISSION FROM HIM TO SHARE HIS STORY. JASON STRUGGLED, AS YOU CAN TELL FROM THE SLIDESHOW WITH ADDICTION FOR OVER 30 YEARS, EXPERIENCED HOMELESSNESS FOR OVER EIGHT. A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD SAY THAT THAT IS SOMEBODY THAT YOU SHOULD JUST GIVE UP ON. WE DON'T GIVE UP ON PEOPLE, AND I'M THANKFUL FOR THE PEOPLE [00:35:02] THAT ARE WITH ME BECAUSE THEY DON'T GIVE UP ON PEOPLE. WE FIRST CONNECTED THROUGH OUTREACH TO JASON. IT TOOK A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME TO BUILD TRUST WITH JASON BECAUSE OF A LOT OF SITUATIONS HE'D BEEN THROUGH, BECAUSE OF TRAUMA THAT HE'D BEEN THROUGH SINCE BEING ON THE STREET, THANKFULLY, IS AS HE BEGAN TO CONNECT WITH US AND TRUST US, HE HE STARTED TO COME OUT TO OUR RESOURCE CENTER, OUR DAY SHELTER FOR SHOWERS, LAUNDRY, CLOTHES, BUT TO BE TREATED LIKE A HUMAN BEING, TO BE CARED ABOUT, RESPECTED, CONNECTED TO ALL THE SERVICES THAT DAVID TALKED ABOUT, SUCH AS IDS, BIRTH CERTIFICATES. THROUGHOUT THAT RELATIONSHIP, WE WERE ABLE TO GET HIM INTO A TREATMENT PROGRAM WHERE HE SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED A ONE YEAR TREATMENT. UPON GRADUATION, HE IMMEDIATELY WANTED TO BEGIN TO TO GIVE BACK. SO JASON STARTED TO VOLUNTEER WITH US AT OUR FOOD PANTRY. THANKFULLY, THROUGH GETTING A GRANT, WE WERE ABLE TO HIRE HIM ON AS A PART TIME EMPLOYEE, WHICH WAS A VERY EXCITING OPPORTUNITY FOR US AND FOR JASON. WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO PROVIDE JASON WITH IS NOT JUST A SECOND CHANCE, BUT A FAMILY, A COMMUNITY THAT WILL TAKE HIM IN AND LOVE HIM BECAUSE HE DID NOT HAVE THAT, WHICH IS PART OF THE REASON HE WAS IN THE SITUATION HE WAS IN. NOW, THANKS TO THE EFFORTS OF JASON RUNNING OUR FOOD PANTRY, THERE ARE 2000 PEOPLE A MONTH THAT RECEIVE FOOD FROM OUR FOOD PANTRY, AND THAT IS A DIRECT RESULT TO THE WORK THAT HE'S PUTTING IN. SO NOT ONLY DO YOU SEE SOMEBODY WHO WAS AT ONE POINT NOT ABLE TO SUPPORT HIMSELF, NOW HE IS A BLESSING TO OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY. SO JASON IS ONE OF I CAN'T EVEN TELL YOU HOW MANY STORIES OF PEOPLE THAT WE SEE THEIR LIVES COMPLETELY PUT BACK TOGETHER THROUGH HAVING STABILITY, THROUGH BEING ABLE TO BUILD A LIFE. AND IT ALL STARTS WITH THEM HAVING A SAFE ENVIRONMENT TO LIVE IN. AND NOW, WHEREAS JASON WOULD BE THE FIRST TO TELL YOU THAT HE WAS ON THE STREETS HAVING TO DO WHATEVER HE COULD TO SURVIVE, WHICH ALSO INCLUDED BEING A BURDEN AT TIMES BECAUSE HE DIDN'T HAVE A CHOICE. NOW HE'S GIVING BACK, AND I CANNOT TELL YOU WHAT IT MEANS FOR FOR PEOPLE TO GET A SECOND CHANCE AND TO BE ABLE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AND A PATH TO HEAD FORWARD. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE OF A LOT OF CUTBACKS IN HOUSING, WE'RE NOT BEING ABLE TO SEE AS MANY STORIES BECAUSE NO MATTER WHAT WE PROMISE THEM, NO MATTER HOW HARD THEY WORK, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF OPTIONS AT THE END OF THAT TO BE ABLE TO GUARANTEE THEM A PLACE TO LIVE. AND THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TODAY. THANK YOU ALL. SO AND WE'LL ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THE END. THE OTHER ASPECT, I THINK, THAT WE CAN BRING TO THE TABLE FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE IS HOW DO WE ENGAGE AND MITIGATE VACANT, ABANDONED PROPERTY. WHEN I FIRST MOVED TO LOUISVILLE ON EAST BURNETT AVENUE AND HILL, IT WAS LIKE HILL STREET, BURNETT AVENUE AND CLAY. I SQUATTED ON A VACANT PIECE OF LAND AS MY GARDEN. I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE REALLY CUTE AND DO THAT, AND THAT IS HOW I FIRST GOT INVOLVED AND WHAT I'M SEEING OUR CITY DO IN TERMS OF STRATEGIC FORECLOSURES, IN TERMS OF THE SALE OF PROPERTY THROUGH THE LAND BANK AND WHAT HABITAT IS DOING RIGHT NOW, AND OTHER PARTNERS OF REPAIRING. YOU KNOW, I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF MOMENTUM AND HOW DO WE CONTINUE THAT MOMENTUM AND REALLY CONTINUE BUILDING COMMUNITIES HERE IN TOWN. SO I'M GOING TO GIVE IT OVER TO BELLAGIO TO SPEAK ABOUT THE WORK THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW. YES. SO MY NAME IS BELLAGIO BLUE. I'M THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT MANAGER AT HABITAT FOR HUMANITY. METRO LOUISVILLE HABITAT IS BEST KNOWN FOR OUR HOME REPAIR EFFORTS, BUT ASIDE FROM THAT, WE ARE ALSO ONE OF THE LEADING PROVIDERS OF HOME REPAIR AND HOME PRESERVATION EFFORTS IN LOUISVILLE AND JEFFERSON COUNTY. SO WE. A COUPLE YEARS AGO, WE STARTED THE LOUISVILLE HOME REPAIR NETWORK, WHICH IS A HABITAT, AS WELL AS NINE OTHER NONPROFITS AND AGENCIES, AS WELL AS LOUISVILLE METRO GOVERNMENT, SPECIFICALLY THE OFFICE OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. AND WE STARTED THAT IN AN EFFORT TO KEEP OUR HOUSING STOCK LIVABLE AND STABLE. SO I WANT TO SPEAK TO YOU ALL TODAY ABOUT HOW THAT DIRECTLY IMPACTS PUBLIC SAFETY. SO WHEN MY TEAM GOES TO SOMEONE'S HOME TO WHEN THEY SEEK SERVICES FOR HOME REPAIR, ONE OF THE MOST COMMON CHALLENGES THAT OUR HOMEOWNERS BRING UP IS THE VACANT, ABANDONED PROPERTY NEXT DOOR. THOSE PROPERTIES WERE ONCE WELL-LOVED HOMES THAT HAVE BECOME MAGNETS FOR TRESPASSING AND ILLEGAL DUMPING AND FIRES. AND JUST SOME INTERESTING STATISTICS. THERE WERE APPROXIMATELY 6000 VACANT HOMES WITHIN JEFFERSON COUNTY. AND ONE OF THE MORE SHOCKING ONES TO ME IS THAT 15% OF THE FIRES THAT LOUISVILLE METRO FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS TO DEAL WITH ARE IN THOSE VACANT PROPERTIES. SO THERE ARE MANY LOCAL AND NATIONAL MODELS FOR RECLAIMING THESE PROPERTIES THROUGH LAND BANKS, THROUGH COMMUNITY LED DEVELOPMENT. AND THERE ARE MANY SUCH EFFORTS IN OUR COMMUNITY. BUT THE MOST IMPACTFUL AND EASIEST WAY TO MITIGATE THOSE VACANT PROPERTIES IS THROUGH HOME REPAIR AND PREVENTING THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE. SO EVERY DAY WE SPEAK TO HOMEOWNERS THAT [00:40:05] ARE ON THE BRINK OF GIVING UP ON THE IDEA OF HOMEOWNERSHIP. THEY ARE IN NEED OF CRITICAL AND EMERGENCY HOME REPAIRS THAT THEY CANNOT AFFORD. AND I'LL SHOW YOU SOME MORE STATISTICS LATER ON TO COVER THAT. AND WITHOUT OUR HELP, THEIR HOME IS LIABLE TO BECOME THE NEXT VACANT PROPERTY ON THE BLOCK. WE HAVE FOUND THAT IT'S MUCH EASIER TO OFFER EMERGENCY HOME REPAIR AND CRITICAL HOME REPAIR GRANTS TO HOMEOWNERS THAN TO REHAB A PROPERTY THAT'S SAT VACANT FOR EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME. THE MOST COMMON REQUESTS ARE ROOFING REPAIRS OR FULL REPLACEMENTS, PLUMBING ISSUES AND HEATING AND COOLING RELATED REPAIRS. THESE REPAIRS HELP STABILIZE AND THE STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY OF THE HOME AND KEEP THE HOME SUITABLE FOR HEALTHY LIVING. THE RESEARCH IS VERY CLEAR ON THIS TOPIC OF STUDY FROM UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA. EXAMINED PHILADELPHIA'S BASIC SYSTEMS REPAIR PROGRAM AND FOUND THAT OVER A SEVEN YEAR PERIOD, THEY SAW A REDUCTION OF UP TO 22% IN CRIME JUST IN THE AREAS WHERE HOME REPAIRS WERE VERY PREVALENT. AND SO THE MORE PRONOUNCED THE BENEFIT, THE LOWER THE CRIME RATE WAS ON THAT PARTICULAR BLOCK. AND THEN FROM A PHYSICAL STANDPOINT, 2017, THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH CAROLINA FOUND THAT FOR EVERY DOLLAR SPENT ON EMERGENCY HOME REPAIR. SO THAT'S REPLACING WATER HEATERS, FURNACES, OTHER PLUMBING ISSUES, SEWAGE ISSUES THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO SAVE ABOUT $18 FOR EVERY DOLLAR SPENT IN MEDICAID AND MEDICARE COSTS. SO FOR $2,000 PLUMBING REPAIR, THEY CAN SAVE UP TO $38,000 IN MEDICAL EXPENSES THAT MIGHT OTHERWISE FORCE A SENIOR TO LEAVE OUT, LEAVE THEIR HOME ENTIRELY DUE TO NOT BEING ABLE TO AFFORD IT. SO CAN YOU SKIP TO THE NEXT? SO THE OFFICE OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, ALONG WITH PARTICIPANTS IN LOUISVILLE HOME REPAIR NETWORK, PROVIDE DATA AND HELP TO DO A HOME REPAIRS ASSESSMENT OF HOME REPAIR NEEDS ASSESSMENT FOR THE ENTIRETY OF JEFFERSON COUNTY. AND WE FOUND THAT THERE WERE 29,000 RESIDENTS IN NEED OF SOME FORM OF HOME REPAIR. AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE MAP AND ON THE SCREEN. AND THAT LED TO THREE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE CONSULTANT. ONE WAS TO COORDINATE AND FUND STRONGER, WHICH THE COORDINATION WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO TACKLE THAT, AND I'LL COVER THAT NEXT SLIDE AND THEN DESIGN A SMART DELIVERY. WE'VE ESTABLISHED 211 AS A AS A CORE HUB FOR HOME REPAIR RESOURCES. SO RATHER THAN EACH HOMEOWNER HAVING TO CALL EVERY SINGLE NONPROFIT DOING HOME REPAIR, THEY CAN CALL ONE NUMBER, ASK FOR HOME REPAIR, MENTION THAT THEY'RE IN JEFFERSON COUNTY AND THEY GET ROUTED TO US, A STAFF THAT DEALS WITH THEIR INTAKE, AND THEN THEY GET ROUTED TO THE APPROPRIATE ORGANIZATION WHO CAN MEET THEIR NEEDS. AND THIS IS COUNTY WIDE AGAIN. AND THEN TO MEASURE THOSE EFFORTS. SO IN GO BACK TO PREVIOUS SLIDES. SO IN TERMS OF MEASURING OUR EFFORTS, THE LOUISVILLE HOME REPAIR NETWORK, THIS IS DATA FROM THE LAST TWO QUARTERS OF THE FISCAL YEAR, LOOKING AT MAINLY FROM NOVEMBER UNTIL APRIL, LOOKING AT THE HOME REPAIRS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACHIEVE. SO THIS DATA IS FROM APPROXIMATELY 250 PROJECTS ACROSS TEN DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS OF VARIOUS SIZES. SOME ORGANIZATIONS DOING A HANDFUL, SOME DOING SEVERAL HUNDRED REPAIRS, HABITAT, NEW DIRECTIONS, BEING THE LEADERS IN THAT EFFORT. AND WE FOUND THAT THE AVERAGE INCOME FOR A HOME REPAIR RECIPIENT IS LESS THAN 30% AMI. SO AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD SIZE BEING TWO PERSON HOUSEHOLD, WHETHER IT'S A COUPLE OF SENIORS, A GRANDPARENT OR GRANDCHILD OR PARENT AND CHILD, AVERAGE AGE OF 64, AND THE AVERAGE HOME REPAIR COST BEING $11,000, WHICH IS 48% OF THEIR YEARLY INCOME. SO YOU SEE, THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR THEM TO MANAGE ON THEIR OWN AND TACKLE THOSE NEEDS. SO WHEN WE HELP HOMEOWNERS STAY IN THEIR HOME, WE'RE DOING MORE THAN MAKING THE REPAIR WE'RE PROVIDING, PREVENTING ONE MORE UNHOUSED SENIOR. WE'RE PREVENTING ONE MORE VACANT PROPERTY, AND WE'RE PREVENTING ONE MORE SITE FOR ILLEGAL ACTIVITY AND NEIGHBORHOOD DECLINE FOR EACH HOMEOWNER WHO WAS ABLE TO MAINTAIN THEIR HOME AND PASS ON TO NEXT GENERATION, THE WHOLE COMMUNITY BENEFITS AND SAFETY, STABILITY, AND THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND WE ASK FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT OF HOME REPAIR PROGRAMS AND THE LOUISVILLE HOME REPAIR NETWORK, SO WE CAN KEEP DOING THIS WORK AT SCALE THAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS. THANK YOU. SO IF YOU ASK ME 2 OR 3 YEARS AGO, COULD WE START ENGAGING IN THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY AND HOUSING? I WOULD HAVE SAID NO. LIKE, BUT THROUGH THE WORK OF OUR PARTNERS, THROUGH THE WORK OF OUR COMMUNITY, THROUGH THE WORK OF [00:45:04] YOU ALL SUPPORTING US, I THINK WE'RE READY TO START HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS OF HOW CAN WE WORK TOGETHER? HOW CAN WE LEVERAGE ALL THE HOUSING MOMENTUM THAT WE HAVE TO FURTHER PUBLIC SAFETY GOALS? SO I REALLY SEE THIS AS THE BEGINNING OF A CONVERSATION. HERE IS ALL OF OUR CONTACT INFORMATION, BECAUSE THE THE WORK THAT I DON'T KNOW THERE RIGHT NOW, THERE IS SO MUCH SYNERGY IN THE HOUSING COMMUNITY OF WE ARE ALL ENGAGED, WE'RE ALL WORKING TOGETHER, AND WE ALL WANT A SPACE THAT IS, YOU KNOW, A SPACE WHERE FAMILIES CAN FIND HOUSING, A SPACE WHERE FAMILIES CAN BUILD COMMUNITY, A SPACE WHERE FAMILIES CAN SAY, YEAH, LOUISVILLE IS MY HOME AND I'M PART OF THE SOLUTION, MAKING IT SAFE. SO I'M HAPPY TO FIELD ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU, MR. ECKLUND. BEFORE WE CONTINUE, WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY COUNCIL MEMBER JENNIFER CHAPPELL. IT'S OPEN FOR QUESTIONS. ANYBODY IN THE QUEUE? MR. CHAIR? I ASKED TO BE EXCUSED. OKAY. LET ME GET OUT OF THIS. COUNCILMEMBER, PLEASE. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO SPEAK WITH YOU ALL. I AM NOT SURPRISED TO SEE MY DISTRICT HEAVILY REPRESENTED ON THE HOME REPAIR NEEDS ASSESSMENT MAP. WITH THE UNMET NEEDS HIGHLIGHTED. THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST CONSISTENT CALL TO MY OFFICE RECEIVES, WHERE PEOPLE ASK US FOR HELP WITH SERVICES, AND WE HAVE TO TELL THEM THAT MONEY IS OUT FOR THIS YEAR. AND I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE MEETING THAT NEED. LIKE YOU SAID, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST SOMETHING THAT WE'RE KEEPING PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES. SO WE'RE, WE ARE ACTIVELY PROTECTING OUR COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE STRUCTURES REMAIN SOUND. YOU KNOW, TWO DOORS DOWN FROM ME BURNED TO THE GROUND PRETTY RECENTLY. AND YESTERDAY WAS WHEN THEY HAD THE THE EXCAVATOR OUT, TEARING DOWN THE REST OF THE STRUCTURE OF 140 YEAR OLD HOUSE. SO WHAT WOULD IT TAKE FOR US TO GET A MAP THAT DOESN'T HAVE THESE RED DOTS? SO ONE, ONE THING I FORGOT TO MENTION WITH THAT MAP WAS THAT WAS FROM THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT THAT WAS COMPLETED THE FIRST HALF OF LAST YEAR. AND SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO EXPAND AND DO A LOT MORE WORK SINCE THEN. SO LOUISVILLE METRO GOVERNMENT PUT ON AN RFP THAT HABITAT NEW DIRECTIONS AND METRO UNITED WAY ALL RESPONDED TO METRO UNITED WAY BEING THE THE CORE HUB FOR CENTRAL INTAKE. BUT HABITAT AND NEW DIRECTIONS BEING THE HOME REPAIR PROVIDERS FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY. SO WE SPLIT THE COUNTY ACROSS BY COUNCIL DISTRICT. WHAT DISTRICT IS YOURS? DISTRICT SIX. SO THAT IS ONE OF NEW DIRECTIONS DISTRICTS, BUT THEY'RE. WE CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH UPDATED MAPS OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO. AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE SERVED AT LEAST ONE HOME WITHIN EVERY SINGLE DISTRICT IN JEFFERSON COUNTY SO FAR. BUT YEAH, SO WE ARE WORKING TO MEET THAT NEED AND EXPAND ACROSS THE COUNTY. BUT THE BIGGEST NEED IS ALWAYS IS MONEY. SO WE GOT ABOUT $3 MILLION LAST YEAR, AND THIS YEAR IT'S LOOKING ABOUT 100 OR $1 MILLION FROM CDBG ALLOTMENT. I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY ABOUT GENERAL FUNDS AT THIS TIME, BUT HOPING FOR YOUR SUPPORT TO CONTINUE OUR EFFORTS. YEAH, I THINK THE BIG PICTURE WISE, I THINK THERE ARE TWO THINGS. ONE IS LIKE A CONTINUED COMMITMENT OVER YEARS TO DO REPAIRS BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST WE CAN'T JUST DO IT IN ONE YEAR LIKE WE GOT IN THIS MESS OVER DECADES OF DIVESTMENT FROM HOUSING. SO WE'RE GOING TO NEED YEARS OF INVESTMENT TO GET BACK INTO IT. I THINK THE OTHER BIG PICTURE PIECE IS LIKE WORKING WITH FRANKFORT TO GIVE US TOOLS TO CREATE LIKE AN ESTABLISHED HOUSING FUND. SO WE HAVE OUR LOCAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND THAT DOES MOSTLY PRODUCTION, SOME REPAIR WORK. BUT WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE TO FOR FRANKFORT TO GIVE US THE TOOLS SO THAT WE CAN CREATE A DEDICATED HOUSING FUNDING STREAM THAT WE CAN COUNT ON, NOT JUST THIS YEAR, BUT THE NEXT THREE, 4 OR 5 DECADES SO THAT WE DON'T WE CAN ACTUALLY MAKE MOMENTUM. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY COUNCIL MEMBER SHAMIKA PARIS. RIGHT. DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? COUNCIL MEMBER YES I DID. I TRIED TO ASK TO BE IN THE QUEUE. YOU YOU CAN PROCEED. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO FOR ME, I THIS ALL MAKES SENSE. I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK OF WHERE THE ADDITIONAL ACTS ARE COMING FROM AND WHERE WE, YOU KNOW, ONLY SO MUCH OF THE BUDGET IS MOVABLE. AND I LEARNED IN MY MEETING WITH YOUR WITH THE SAFE AND STABLE FOLKS, WHICH WAS A GOOD MEETING. I WAS ASKING ABOUT THE CDBG FUNDS BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE'RE TAKING THE. MAX WE CAN TAKE OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. SO I'M WONDERING, HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT SOURCES OF [00:50:01] WHERE WE CAN MOVE MONEY AROUND JUST FROM YOUR VIEW INTO THERE? AND I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION AFTER THAT. YEAH, I AM I AM PERSONALLY NOT AS WELL VERSED IN LIKE ALL OF OUR REVENUE STREAMS AND THE METRO BUDGET SCENE. SO I WOULDN'T WANT TO POSIT LIKE IDEAS RIGHT NOW IN THIS FORUM, BUT I MEAN, I'M HAPPY TO LIKE WORK WITH THE PEOPLE THAT I KNOW AND KIND OF GET, GIVE YOU ALL SOME IDEAS OF, OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE UNTAPPED FUNDING STREAMS IN THE FUTURE THAT WE CAN LOOK AT. FAIR ENOUGH. MY QUESTION STEMMED FROM THE FACT THAT AT THE MAYOR COMMITTED TO 15 MILLION TOWARDS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND, BUT THERE WAS NO MENTION OF THE ADDITIONAL ASK THAT YOU ALL HAVE PRESENTED. SO I'M JUST WONDERING HOW WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS, BECAUSE I SUPPORT EVERY ONE OF THOSE EFFORTS. AND JUST LIKE COUNCILMAN LINIGER, OUR OFFICE GETS THE MOST CALLS AROUND HOME REPAIR. AND I BELIEVE SENIORS TO AGE IN PLACE AND ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE PRESENTED HERE. AND I'M ALSO A DIRECT RECIPIENT OF PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. SO I ALSO KNOW WHAT SAFE AND STABLE MEANS AS IT'S BEEN THE ROOT OF MY TIME HERE. BUT MY OTHER QUESTION IS AROUND THAT YOU HAVE ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HOUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE. I KNOW WE NOW HAVE THIS HOME FOR GOOD INITIATIVE, WHICH I THINK IS GREAT. I THINK SAFE AND STABLE IS GREAT. BUT YOU ALSO HAVE ORGANIZATIONS LIKE HOPE VILLAGE AND ARTHUR STREET HOTEL THAT ARE THAT ARE STRUGGLING, AND I WANTED TO KNOW IF SOME OF THEIR SERVICES AND NEEDS ARE FACTORED IN, BECAUSE AS IT STANDS, THE ARTHUR STREET HOTEL HAS HELPED TO HOUSE OVER 200 PEOPLE AND THEY'RE LOOKING TO ALMOST SHUTTING THEIR DOORS RIGHT NOW FOR NOT HAVING ENOUGH SUPPORT. AND SO IF WE'RE HOME FOR GOOD AS SAYING THEY'LL DO 250, THEY'LL HOUSE 250 PEOPLE BY 2027. AND YOU HAVE AN ORGANIZATION THAT'S BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT IN NEARLY IN UNDER TWO YEARS. I WOULD THINK THAT THAT, TO ME, WOULD BE ALSO A PRIORITY IN THIS. AND THE LAST PART OF THAT IS ALSO MY PUTTING ON MY OTHER HAT VOCAL. KENTUCKY HAS BEEN A PART OF THIS WITH OUR MEMBERS AND LEADERS WHO HAVE ALSO GOTTEN HOUSING AND TRANSITION. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALSO INCLUDED AS A PARTNER ORG, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT BENEFITING FROM THIS FINANCIALLY, BUT OUR MEMBERS AND LEADERS HAVE HELPED WITH THIS PROJECT. AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE LISTED. AND THAT'S SOMETHING I NOTICED THAT WASN'T IN THERE BUT YEAH, HOW WILL THIS TRANSLATE TO HOPE VILLAGE AND ARTHUR STREET HOTEL? THE SHORT ANSWER. WELL, I MEAN, COUNCIL MEMBER, WE ARE LOOKING AT LIKE PRETTY LARGE MACRO ISSUES, LIKE WE NEED 29000 UNITS REPAIRED. WE HAVE 12,000 PEOPLE THAT EXPERIENCE HOMELESSNESS OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR. WE HAVE 17,000 PEOPLE THAT ARE IN EVICTION COURT EACH AND EVERY YEAR. LIKE THESE ARE BIG NUMBERS AND IT CAN'T JUST BE ONE DEPARTMENT WORKING TOGETHER. AND SO, I MEAN, WE NEED EVERYBODY AROUND THE TABLE TO, TO BE PART OF THIS CONVERSATION. SO I APPRECIATE YOU HIGHLIGHTING THEM BECAUSE I MEAN, HOPE VILLAGE AND ARTHUR STREET HOTEL HAVE BEEN ASSETS IN THE PAST. AND HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT IF THEY DO HAVE TO CLOSE, WE CAN TRANSITION THAT RESPONSIBLY? SO IT'S NOT LIKE A CLIFF, BUT I DO NOT KNOW THAT THE ECONOMICS BEHIND EITHER OF THOSE PROJECTS RIGHT NOW. SO AND I'LL REACH OUT TO YOU AFTER THIS ABOUT US. THANK YOU. LAST THANK YOU WOULD BE COUNCIL MEMBER JENNY MULVEY WOOLDRIDGE. THANK YOU. AND I APPRECIATE THE MEETING YESTERDAY. VERY INFORMATIVE. ONE QUESTION I HAVE IS I KNOW THAT LOUISVILLE OUTREACH FOR THE UNSHELTERED. AND ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAD, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT ASKING THIS YESTERDAY, DO YOU ALL PARTNER WITH HEART, THE HOMELESS ENGAGEMENT TEAM THAT WE HAVE? I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE SERVICES THAT YOU'RE DOING, THEY'RE DOING AS WELL. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU PARTNER WITH THEM OR DOING SOME OF THE SAME THINGS. OR IS IT AN OVERFLOW OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES. JACK FROM THE HEART TEAM WAS IN MY OFFICE THIS MORNING, RETURNING SOME VITAL DOCUMENTS TO ME FOR SOMEONE TO HELP TRANSPORT TO AN APPOINTMENT THAT THEY HAD. WE WORK WITH ANY AGENCY THAT IS WORKING TOWARDS THAT, THAT COMMON GOAL. I HAD MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY ABOUT THE BEYOND THE BRIDGE AND THAT MESSAGE OF COLLABORATION, AND AS A VENN DIAGRAM OF SOCIAL SERVICES, I MIGHT DO THIS HEART MIGHT DO THIS, EXODUS MIGHT DO THIS. BUT IF WE JUST FOCUS ON THE INTERSECTION IN THAT VENN DIAGRAM, THAT'S WHERE WE SEE THE RESULTS. SO COLLABORATION, COLLABORATION, COLLABORATION. SO THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES. I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THAT. LIKE WE SAID YESTERDAY IS THAT I LIKE HAVING THAT ONE CENTRAL LOCATION, RIGHT TO GO AND KNOW WHERE TO GET THOSE SERVICES. AND LIKE I SAID, AS I KNOW HEART DOES SOME OF THOSE. SO YES, COLLABORATION IS KEY. YEAH. SO APPRECIATE THAT OPEN COMMUNICATION COLLABORATION. YES. YEAH. AND EDUCATION. RIGHT. SO MY OTHER, MY OTHER QUESTION I THINK IS GOING TO BE FOR BALAJI. SO ON THE 211, I GUESS MY FIRST QUESTION IS I'M JUST NOT CLEAR ON THE HOW IS IT PAID FOR? IS IT THE FUNDS THAT COME IN? DOES THE RESIDENT PAY FOR IT? IS IT A COMBINATION? HOW ARE THE REPAIRS PAID FOR THEMSELVES? SO EVERYTHING IS A GRANT FOR THE MOST PART. SO WE RECEIVE FUNDING FROM CDBG OR [00:55:03] CDBG FUNDING FROM THE CITY, AS WELL AS THE MIX OF SOME GENERAL FUNDS. THE GENERAL FUNDS ARE USED FOR EMERGENCY HOME REPAIRS. JUST BECAUSE THAT'S EASIER TO SPEND THAT MONEY AND GET THAT DONE QUICKLY. GETTING AS MANY FURNACES, WATER HEATERS AND SUCH IN AS POSSIBLE. AND THAT'S ALL STRUCTURED AS A GRANT TO THE HOMEOWNER. SO THEY DON'T PAY A DIME. THERE'S NOTHING FROM THEM OTHER THAN TO QUALIFY, WHICH IS 50%. AM I IS THE CAP FOR THAT FUNDING AND THAT THAT'S THEIR SOLE DON'T SOUND SOLE PROPERTY. AND THEN WHAT? AND YOU MAY NOT KNOW THIS RIGHT NOW AND YOU CAN ALWAYS GET BACK TO ME. I CAN EMAIL YOU FOR SURE. WHAT IS YOUR BACKLOG LOOK, RIGHT LOOK LIKE RIGHT NOW? I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR HABITAT, BUT LAST I CHECKED, ABOUT A WEEK AGO, IT WAS SOMEWHERE AROUND JUST OVER 100 HOUSEHOLDS, AT LEAST WITHIN OUR AREA. AND I CAN SEND YOU ALL, EACH OF YOU, ALL THAT MAP AS WELL, BECAUSE THE WAY WE'VE STRATEGICALLY SPLIT THE FUNDING THAT WE HAVE IS HABITAT COVERS 13 OF THE DISTRICTS IN NEW DIRECTIONS, COVERS OTHER 13. I'M NOT SURE WHERE YOUR YOURS LIES AT THE MOMENT. 24 OKLAHOMA AREA THAT THAT'S NEW DIRECTIONS DISTRICT. YES. BUT YEAH. SO THAT'S HOW WE'VE CURRENTLY SPLIT EVERYTHING. OKAY. THE FROM AND THAT'S HOW WE THE CENTRAL INTAKE DETERMINES WHO GETS WHICH CLIENT AND AS WELL AS BASED ON THEIR NEEDS. SO WE HAVE OUR METRO FUNDED PROGRAMS, BUT WE ALSO STILL HAVE OUR OWN PRIVATE FUNDED PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE STACKING ON TOP OF THAT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE MEETING AS MANY PEOPLE'S NEEDS AS POSSIBLE. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. WE MAY NOT GET TO ANSWERING DUE TO TIME, BUT I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY BEDS WE HAVE AVAILABLE ON ANY GIVEN NIGHT AS OPPOSED TO THE PEOPLE WE HAVE SLEEPING ON CONCRETE. I'D ALSO LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY OF THIS 641, AND I THINK IT'S A LOT MORE. BUT HOW MANY HAVE MENTAL DISABILITIES, SCHIZOPHRENIA, PTSD? ARE WE LOGGING THAT? DO WE KNOW WHO THEY ARE? I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT. I'D LIKE TO KNOW SOME OF THE BARRIERS WHEN IT COMES TO THESE OUTREACHES, TO THESE THESE TO THE, TO THE BEDS TO AND NOT ONLY THE BARRIERS, BUT I'VE SEEN A LOT OF HOMELESS FOLKS THAT HAVE PETS. AND I WOULD NEVER WANT TO HAVE TO SEPARATE THEM FROM. THE ONLY THING THEY HAVE LEFT IS THEIR PET. DO WE HAVE A PLACE WITH A KENNEL SO THESE PEOPLE CAN PUT THEIR PETS? SO OKAY, WE'LL START AT THE BEGINNING. WE MEASURE NIGHTLY HOMELESSNESS IN WHAT IS CALLED THE POINT IN TIME COUNT. IT IS A SNAPSHOT. IT IS THE BEST MEASURE THAT WE HAVE IN TERMS OF OUR DAILY LOAD. I VIEW IT AS WHAT IS OUR DAILY. DID IT RAIN TODAY AND HOW MUCH DID IT RAIN? OUR. OUR POINT IN TIME COUNT IS AROUND 1800 PEOPLE AND THAT IS BOTH SHELTERED, UNSHELTERED AND IN WHAT'S CALLED TRANSITIONAL SHELTER, WHICH IS MORE OF A TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, WHICH IS VERY TEMPORARY. OUR SHELTERED NUMBER IS HOVERS AROUND LIKE 800, 850. BECAUSE WE DO THE COUNT DURING THE WINTER, WE USUALLY ARE FLEXED UP BECAUSE IT'S WHITE FLAG, WHICH MEANS THAT WE CAN OPEN UP EXPANDED CAPACITY. THAT MEANS SOMEBODY MIGHT BE SLEEPING IN A HALLWAY, IT MIGHT BE SLEEPING IN A CAFETERIA THAT BECOMES BREAKFAST THE NEXT DAY. SO ROUGHLY, I WOULD I WOULD GUESS THAT THERE'S 850 BEDS. SOME OF THOSE ARE RESERVED FOR SPECIAL POPULATIONS LIKE DV SURVIVORS, MINORS THAT ARE UNDER EIGHT PEOPLE THAT ARE UNDER 18. THERE'S ABOUT 70 FAMILY BEDS IN THE COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW. SO WHEN I SAY THAT THERE'S 850 BED, IT IS NOT MEAN THAT YOU CAN BE A SINGLE PERSON GOING INTO ALL OF THOSE BEDS. THEY'RE THEY'RE EARMARKED FOR SPECIAL POPULATIONS SOMETIMES IN TERMS OF BARRIERS TO HOUSING OR BARRIERS TO ACCESSING SHELTER. WE HAVE ONE SHELTER THAT WE WOULD CLASSIFY AS LOWER BARRIER SHELTER, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY DO ACCEPT PETS. THE PET HAS TO BE PUT INTO A KENNEL FOR THE NIGHT, BUT IT IS THAT THAT PET DOES REMAIN ON SITE. I THINK THERE ARE OTHER DYNAMICS WHERE PEOPLE HAVE TO NAVIGATE WHEN GOING INTO SHELTER, WHERE IF IT IS A MOTHER AND AN 18 YEAR OLD SON, THEY CANNOT GO INTO SHELTER TOGETHER. LIKE THAT'S ONE THAT ALWAYS COMES TO MIND. IF THEY HAVE MOST OF THEIR STUFF OUTSIDE AND THEY'RE NOT READY TO GO IN, OR THEY HAVE LIKE PAST TRAUMA FROM BEING IN SHELTER LIKE THAT IS THAT'S A BARRIER UNTO ITSELF OF TRYING TO GET THEM IN. BUT WHAT I CAN SAY ABOUT OUR SHELTER USAGE RIGHT NOW IS THAT EVERY NIGHT WE ARE FULL OR ALMOST FULL, EXCEPT FOR THOSE SPECIAL BEDS THAT ARE OUT THERE. WE MANAGE WHAT'S CALLED THE SHELTER ACCESS LINE. YOU CAN CALL THE NUMBER STARTING AT 10:00, BUT OFTEN WE HAVE RESERVATIONS THAT ARE FULL UP BY 11:00, AND WHICH MEANS WE CAN'T TAKE ANYONE ELSE. SO THAT IS THAT IS A BIG GAP IN [01:00:03] OUR SERVICES, IS JUST HAVING ENOUGH SHELTER THAT PEOPLE CAN ACCESS. WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY. MOST OF OUR SHELTERS CONGREGATE, WHICH MEANS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO A GYM OR A CAFETERIA OR JUST LIKE A BIGGER OPEN SPACE. WE DO HAVE A COUPLE NON-CONGREGATE BEDS AT SAINT VINCENT DEPAUL. SO THAT IS, THAT IS KIND OF A SNAPSHOT OF OF THE ECOSYSTEM. I'M SURE YOU HAVE A FOLLOW UP. THERE'S A BUNCH OF FOLLOW UPS, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE STUCK ON TIME. SO I'M GOING TO THANK YOU FOR, FOR COMING, MR. EKLUND, I FULLY SUPPORT YOU. I THINK OUR BODY FULLY SUPPORTS TRYING TO GET PEOPLE OFF CONCRETE. HOWEVER, WE CAN HELP. WE WILL. BUT THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU FOR FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING. AND KEEP KEEP WORKING AT IT AND WE'LL DO WHAT WE CAN TO HELP. YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH TO THE COMMITTEE. APPRECIATE IT. KIRK CLARK, PLEASE READ ITEM NUMBER [1. O-280-25     FOR REINTRODUCTION: AN ORDINANCE ENACTING A NEW CHAPTER OF TITLE XI OF THE LOUISVILLE METRO CODE OF ORDINANCES RELATING TO IN-PERSON SECURITY AT LATE-NIGHT BUSINESSES. 4/23/26 Metro Council Recommitted [to Public Safety Committee] 4/15/26 Public Safety Committee  Held 3/4/26 Public Safety Committee  Held 2/18/26 Public Safety Committee  Held 2/4/26 Public Safety Committee  Held 12/1/25 Special Public Safety Committee  Held Action Required By: May 13, 2026 Sponsors: Tammy Hawkins (D-1), Betsy Ruhe (D-21)] TWO INTO THE RECORD. AN ORDINANCE ENACTING A NEW CHAPTER OF TITLE NINE. I'M SORRY, TITLE 11 OF THE LOUISVILLE METRO CODE OF ORDINANCES RATING TO IN-PERSON SECURITY AT LATE NIGHT BUSINESSES. READ IN FULL. WE HAVE A MOTION SECOND. THAT HAS BEEN PROPERLY MOVED BY COMMITTEE MEMBERS, AND THE ITEM IS BEFORE US FOR DISCUSSION ONLY. COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE ITEM? YES. FIRST, I'M GOING TO REFER TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND LET THEM TALK ABOUT IT FIRST, AND THEN I'LL CHIME IN FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THIS IS ALICE LIME WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. AND IN YOUR SYSTEM, THERE'S A A THE FIRST VERSION OF THE ORDINANCE THAT'S THAT'S THERE IS A NEW VERSION THAT WAS UPLOADED TODAY, AND IT IS AN AMENDMENT BY SUBSTITUTION THAT TAKES THE EXISTING PERSISTENT CRIMINAL ACTIVITY NUISANCE ORDINANCE AND ADDS PROVISIONS FOR LATE NIGHT SECURITY BUSINESSES THAT FIT UNDER THAT DEFINITION. AND SO WITH THAT SAME SYSTEM OF INITIALLY THERE'S A WARNING, THEN THERE'S A NOTICE, THEN THERE'S A CITATION AT EACH OF THOSE STEPS. THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE ADDS AT THE AT THE NOTICE AND WARNING STAGE, IT ADDS A REQUIREMENT THAT THE CURRENT ENFORCEMENT OFFICER CONSIDER REQUIRING IN-PERSON SECURITY AT THE LATE NIGHT BUSINESS FOR THE CITATION STAGE. IT'S A MANDATE THAT THERE BE IN-PERSON SECURITY AT THE LATE NIGHT BUSINESS COUNCIL MEMBER HAWKINS OFFICE INDICATED TO ME TODAY THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE FURTHER AMENDMENTS, AND SO THAT WOULD BE PREPARED FOR FLOOR AMENDMENT FOR COUNCIL. IF THIS SHOULD MOVE OUT OF COMMITTEE TODAY, AND THAT WOULD ADD SOME MINIMUM TIME REQUIREMENTS AND MAKE SOME DISTINCTIONS BETWEEN LEVELS OF CRIME. BUT THAT HAS NOT BEEN DRAFTED YET. AND THAT'S THE COUNCIL MEMBERS OFFICE IS WORKING ON THAT. I DON'T HAVE AS MANY DETAILS ON THAT PIECE. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DO, MR. CHAIR. COUNCILWOMAN PEREZ. RIGHT, PLEASE. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, AND I'LL GO OVER THIS ONCE I GET BACK TO MY DESK. BUT WHEN I WHEN THESE THINGS CAME UP, COME UP, I WORRY ABOUT THE EQUITY AND THE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS AND HOW THIS WILL IMPACT THEM. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OTHER AMENDMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE MADE, BUT JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE BEING CONSCIOUS OF THAT. I DO BELIEVE THAT IT IS A PUBLIC SAFETY TO MAKE SURE THAT LATE NIGHT AND OVERNIGHT BUSINESSES HAVE THE PROPER PROTECTION AND SECURITY THAT THAT THE COMMUNITY DESERVES AND THAT THEY DESERVE AS AS OWNERS. SO I JUST WANTED TO SEE, HAS EQUITY BEEN FACTORED IN, MEANING THAT SOME PLACES, IS THERE A CLAUSE AROUND HOW MANY PEOPLE, IF THEY'RE HAVING A SPECIFIC EVENT, IF IT'S OVER SO MANY PEOPLE, WHAT ARE THOSE REQUIREMENTS? BECAUSE THIS TO ME CAN ADD MORE CHARGES ON, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE WHO ARE PROVIDING FREE EVENTS OR A LIMITED ENTRANCE FEE, HOW ARE THEY ABLE TO COVER THAT AND MAINTAIN ALL THE THINGS? JUST IN A TIME WHERE A LOT OF SMALL BUSINESSES ARE STRUGGLING AND SUFFERING? I [01:05:01] JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING CONSCIOUS OF THAT. ALSO, I DO I DO RESPECT PUBLIC SAFETY IS AN ISSUE. THAT'S WHY THIS HAS COME UP. I KNOW THAT COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL HAD SOME LEGISLATION AROUND THE SECURITY AND THE TRAINING OF SUCH SECURITY, SO JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE HOW WE FACTORED ALL OF THAT IN INTO THIS DECISION MAKING. VICE CHAIR HAWKINS, I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME, AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHY I'M DOING IT, TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S EQUITABLE. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T SAFETY IS WAY MORE EQUITABLE, PLAYS A HUGE FACTOR. BUT SAFETY FOR ME IS FIRST PRIORITY VERSUS EQUITABLE. IT'S IT'S NOT A SECRET. WE DON'T REALLY HEAR ABOUT THE THINGS THAT GO ON IN THE EAST END. WE ALWAYS HEAR ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE WEST END. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S NOT HAPPENING IN THE EAST END. RIGHT. AND ANY BUSINESS THAT IS DOING BUSINESS FROM, YOU KNOW, FROM MY COMMUNITY STANDPOINT, IT'S NOT ALWAYS ABOUT THE BUSINESS OWNERS, RIGHT? IT'S ABOUT THOSE EMPLOY THOSE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE THERE AT WORK THAT HAVE NO PROTECTION. WHEN SOMETHING GOES ON IN A BUSINESS THAT THEY WORK AT, RIGHT. AND WE WORK FOR THE PEOPLE AND WORKING FOR THE PEOPLE, I HAVE SEVERAL CONSTITUENTS THAT ARE CONCERNED ABOUT LATE NIGHT BUSINESSES THAT ARE OPEN FROM 2 A.M. TO 5 A.M. THAT HAVE NO PROTECTION FOR THEM, YOU KNOW, AND THERE IS A SERIES OF THINGS IN PLACE THAT I PUT IN PLACE IN HER THAT GIVES THEM SEVERAL CHANCES. COLDS CAN COME IN RIGHT NOW UNDER THE NUISANCE ORDINANCE THAT'S IN THERE. AND SHUT A CLUB DOWN, SHUT AN ESTABLISHMENT DOWN, ESPECIALLY IF THEY SELL ANY TYPE OF ALCOHOL AND THERE'S BEEN A HOMICIDE, THERE'S BEEN A SHOOTING. THEY CAN JUST SHUT THEM DOWN FOR NOTHING. THIS GIVES A LAYER OF STRUCTURE, RIGHT? AND THERE IS NOT A LOT OF BUSINESSES THAT ARE OPEN FROM 2 A.M. TO 5 A.M. IN THE MORNING. SO WOULD IT BE AN EQUITABLE. FOR ME, IT'S JUST ABOUT SAFETY. AND THAT IS THE ONLY REASON THAT I AM TRYING TO PUT THIS IN PLACE. FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES THAT WORK AT THOSE MOM AND POP ESTABLISHMENTS, THEY SHOULD WANT TO KEEP THEIR EMPLOYEES SAFE. POINT OF ORDER. RIGHT NOW. WHAT? WHAT'S BEFORE US? YEAH. BUT ON THE WOULD YOU USE YOUR MIC FOR ME? YOUR MIC PLEASE. YOUR MIC. SORRY ABOUT THAT. WHAT ON THE ATTACHMENTS. WHAT'S ATTACHMENT. THERE WAS A MOTION MADE. WHICH ONE. NOT MOTION. SO THIS IS FOR RIGHT NOW THERE'S AN I THE MAIN ITEM WHICH IS THE SECOND ITEM ON THE LIST. COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS HAS PROPOSED AN AMENDMENT. NO MOTION HAS BEEN MADE ON THAT YET. IT HAS NOT BEEN VOTED ON. BUT THAT IS WHAT SHE WOULD LIKE TO PUT BEFORE YOU. AS SOON AS SHE MAKES A MOTION. WHICH IS IT, 1 OR 2? WELL, SHE SAID IT WAS NUMBER TWO. THE TOP ONE. THE VERY TOP ONE IS PROPOSED. IT HAS PROPOSED IN THE TITLE AND TODAY'S DATE. 050626 THAT IS THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT THAT THAT SHE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE CONSIDERED. YES. SORRY. WHAT IS. POINT OF INFORMATION, I BELIEVE ALSO ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY LYONS SAID THAT THERE THERE ARE PLANNED ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS WHICH ARE NOT CONTAINED IN THE AMENDMENT BY SUBSTITUTION, WHICH IS THE FIRST ITEM. SO I, I, I SYMPATHIZE WITH COUNCILMAN BRATCHER ABOUT WONDERING WHERE WE'RE AT, BUT I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT WE DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE AMENDMENTS ON PAPER BEFORE US CURRENTLY. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN JOSEPH, PLEASE. YEAH. FOR ORGANIZATION PURPOSES, I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TABLE THIS. I SECOND IT. CAN I ASK ONE QUESTION? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHENEVER YOU TABLE THIS, YOU ARE TABLING THE, THE, THE VERY FIRST VERSION. YOU HAVE NOT DONE ANYTHING WITH THE AMENDMENT. SO YOU JUST DISCUSSED IT, RIGHT. AND YOU'RE GOOD WITH THAT. THANK YOU. SORRY. SO YOU'RE JUST VOTING. ON THE MOTION HAS BEEN PROPERLY MOVED. THIS WILL REQUIRE A VOICE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR. AYE, AYE. ALL OPPOSED? WE WILL HOLD THE ITEM. THANK YOU. CLERK, PLEASE READ NUMBER ITEM NUMBER [3. O-074-26     AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE LOUISVILLE METRO CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 91 DEFINITIONS TO REMOVE CERTAIN RESTRAINT REQUIREMENTS. 4/15/26 Public Safety Committee  Held Action Required By:  September 26, 2026 Sponsors: Jennifer Chappell (D-15) ] [01:10:09] FOUR INTO THE RECORD. AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE LOUISVILLE METRO CODE OF ORDINANCES. CHAPTER 91 DEFINITIONS TO REMOVE CERTAIN RESTRAINT REQUIREMENTS. WRITTEN FULL MOTION. THE I HAS BEEN PROPERLY MOVED. I WILL NOTE THAT BRANDON FAULKNER, A RESIDENT THAT IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE ORDINANCE, HAS WRITTEN A LETTER OF SUPPORT WHICH IS ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA. COUNCILWOMAN CHAPPELL, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE ORDINANCE? YES, I WOULD, THANK YOU. CHAIR. SORRY, WE'RE JUST OVER HERE LAUGHING BECAUSE COUNCILOR RUI MOVED INSTEAD OF MOVED. BUT I'M SURE THAT IT'S SHE, YOU KNOW, APPROPRIATE FOR A LIVESTOCK ORDINANCE. BUT 2026 IS THE YEAR OF THE HORSE, ACCORDING TO THE CHINESE ZODIAC CALENDAR. AND OH BOY HAS IT BEEN. OUR STORY WILL START WITH BANDIT, THE MINI HORSE WHO LIVES IN MY DISTRICT. BANDIT IS THE SEBASTIAN TO MY LESLIE KNOPE. IN DECEMBER, BANDITS OWNER SUSIE RECEIVED A CRIMINAL FINE FOR HAVING A MINIATURE HORSE ON A PARCEL THAT WAS LESS THAN AN ACRE. UNBEKNOWNST TO SUSIE AND APPARENTLY ALL OF METRO COUNCIL, THE MICROCHIPPING ORDINANCE THAT WE PASSED IN OCTOBER OF 2025 INCLUDED CHANGES FOR THE SPACE REQUIREMENTS FOR LIVESTOCK IN JEFFERSON COUNTY. THESE WERE VISUALLY VERY TINY CHANGES ON A PAGE PAGE THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH WITH THE MICROCHIPPING ORDINANCE, SO IT WAS EASY TO SKIP OVER THAT. BUT DESPITE MULTIPLE RECORD REQUESTS FROM THE COMMUNITY, WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO PINPOINT WHO MADE THIS CHANGE. UNDERSTANDABLY, THIS SEEMINGLY UNDER THE RADAR CHANGE, MADE SOMETHING THAT THIS BODY DID NOT DISCUSS FEEL SNEAKY AND SUSPICIOUS. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE CHANGE WAS MADE MALICIOUSLY, THOUGH, ALTHOUGH. AND. BUT I WILL SAY THAT UNDERSTANDING THE MOTIVES BEHIND IT IS IMPORTANT. I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT I DID NOT DRAFT THE ORIGINAL LEGISLATION, ALTHOUGH I WAS INVOLVED WITH ITS DEVELOPMENT, AND I'M CLAIMING OWNERSHIP NOW OF THE LIVESTOCK ORDINANCE. BUT WE'RE NOT HERE TO DISCUSS ITS ORIGINS OR WHO MADE THE INITIAL CHANGES. BUT WE'RE HERE TODAY TO DISCUSS OUR LEGISLATION, UPDATES TO OUR LIVESTOCK ORDINANCE THAT WILL PROTECT CURRENT AND FUTURE LIVESTOCK OWNERS AND THEIR ABILITY TO KEEP THEIR LIVESTOCK ON THEIR URBAN PROPERTY. NOW, I AM NOT A LIVESTOCK EXPERT. MY MOST EXTENSIVE INTERACTIONS WITH LIVESTOCK CAME FROM MY TEENAGE YEARS VOLUNTEERING AT THE PETTING ZOO OVER AT THE LOUISVILLE ZOO. I'VE NEVER OWNED ANY LIVESTOCK AND I HAVE NO INTEREST IN OWNING LIVESTOCK. I'VE GAINED A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE ABOUT LIVESTOCK THROUGH THIS PROCESS, THOUGH, INCLUDING THAT LAGOMORPHS ARE A TAXONOMICAL CATEGORIZATION OF RABBIT THAT INCLUDES RABBITS, AND THAT ACTUALLY HELPED ME ON A JEOPARDY CLUE LAST WEEK. SO FOLLOWING CRIMINAL NEWS OF BANDIT'S CRIMINAL CITATION, WHICH ACTUALLY MADE ITS WAY TO NATIONAL NEWS, MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES LIKELY RECEIVED MESSAGES FROM LIVESTOCK OWNERS IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO ARE SUDDENLY THREATENED WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF LOSING THEIR BELOVED ANIMALS. BEFORE I COULD WORK ON ANY LEGISLATION, WE NEEDED TO TAKE CARE OF THE BANDIT SITUATION. AND SO, WORKING WITH A S, WE CONTACTED THE JUDGE PRESIDING OVER THE CASE AND HAD THE CHARGES DISMISSED. SO WE WERE IN AND OUT IN LESS THAN FIVE MINUTES. BUT SINCE THIS WAS A CRIMINAL OFFENSE AND NOT A CIVIL OFFENSE, IT HAD TO GO THROUGH A JUDGE AND IT COULD NOT JUST BE DISMISSED BY LMAS HAVING THAT MATTER RESOLVED AND HAVING MAS AGREEING TO PAUSE ENFORCEMENT UNTIL THIS ORDINANCE IS AMENDED. SO WHAT WE'RE ABOUT TO DO WITH IT, I WAS ABLE TO TURN MY ATTENTION TOWARDS THE ORDINANCE. I WANTED TO AMEND THESE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES WHILE ENSURING ANY ANY CHANGES RESPECTED THE PROPERTY OWNER, THE COMMUNITY, AND ABOVE ALL, THE ANIMAL. MY OFFICE DID A DEEP DIVE INTO WHAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES WERE DOING AND HOW THEY GOVERN URBAN LIVESTOCK, AND WE LOOKED AT RECOMMENDATIONS FROM ANIMAL WELFARE GROUPS. IT WAS IMPORTANT TO INCLUDE THE COMMUNITY. IN THIS CONVERSATION. I CREATED A SURVEY THAT WENT OUT INTO THE PUBLIC, AND WE HAD OVER 100 PARTICIPANTS. WE LEARNED A LOT FROM THE SURVEY, INCLUDING GETTING A ROUGH IDEA OF HOW MANY LIVESTOCK OWNERS THERE ARE IN THE CITY, ALTHOUGH I STILL HAVE NO IDEA HOW MANY MINI HORSES RESIDE WITHIN JEFFERSON COUNTY. BUT I CAN TELL YOU THERE IS AT LEAST NINE. HAVING THESE STAKEHOLDERS AT THE TABLE REALLY HELPED US MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS, AND ON [01:15:01] FEBRUARY 5TH WE HELD A TOWN HALL ABOUT THE LIVESTOCK ORDINANCE. I WAS PREPARED FOR PEOPLE TO SHOW UP WITH THEIR PITCHFORKS, AND WHAT RESULTED WAS ACTUALLY A VERY RESPECTFUL AND CIVIL CONVERSATION. AND PROBABLY THE MOST WELCOMING AND WONDERFUL TOWNHALL I'VE EVER PARTICIPATED IN ALL MY YEARS AS A COMMUNITY LEADER, I HAD THE PLEASURE OF MEETING A FAMILY WHO TAKES CARE OF HUGO, A BELOVED NEIGHBORHOOD PIG. I MET THE CARETAKERS OF BETTY AND BOONE, TWO GOATS WHO LIVE IN DISTRICT NINE, AND MAKE REGULAR APPEARANCES AT OUR LIBRARIES. I ALSO MET THE OWNERS OF BUTTERFLY VALLEY RESCUE AND HEARD ABOUT THE PLETHORA OF CREATURES THAT THEY ARE TAKING CARE OF AT THEIR SANCTUARY, INCLUDING, I BELIEVE, SOME VERY ADORABLE GOATS AND WHEELCHAIRS. I'M SO GRATEFUL FOR THESE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE CONTINUED TO BE A PART OF THIS CONVERSATION. AFTER THIS MEETING, WE WENT TO THE DRAWING BOARD WITH THE ORDINANCE, AND I DIDN'T WANT TO CHANGE IT BACK TO WHAT IT WAS BEFORE BECAUSE IT WAS NOT ACCURATE FROM THE JUMP. PRIMARILY, THE ORDINANCE WAS MESSY WHEN IT CAME TO THE CATEGORY CATEGORIZATION OF ANIMALS. IT DISTINGUISHED JACKSON JENNINGS, BUT NOT RAMS AND HUGHES. IT REFERENCES KIDS, WHICH ARE BABY SHEEP, BUT IT DID NOT MENTION LAMBS. IT REFERRED TO PIGS AS PORCINE, BUT NOT HORSES AS EQUINE OR GOATS AS CAPRINE. AND I THINK I GOT THAT RIGHT. OKAY. AS SOMEONE OF THE TOWN HALL SAID, SOMEONE WHO HAD NO KNOWLEDGE OF LIVESTOCK MUST HAVE ORIGINALLY DRAFTED THIS. SO WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU HERE TODAY, IT SHOWS THAT THERE IS NO LAND SIZE REQUIREMENTS FOR HOUSING ANIMALS WEIGHING LESS THAN 350 POUNDS ON PROPERTY, AND IT HAS EXEMPTIONS SO THAT MINIATURE HORSES, PONIES AND DONKEYS, WHICH ARE ABOVE 350 POUNDS, CAN ALSO HAVE RESIDENTS TAKE UP RESIDENCY IN ANY PLOT THAT THEY CHOOSE. THIS NEW LEGISLATION ALSO REGULATES THAT PIGS KEPT WITHIN LOUISVILLE METRO CANNOT WEIGH MORE THAN 350 POUNDS, THE WEIGHT LIMIT, AND THAT IS THE WEIGHT LIMIT OF A MINIATURE PIG, AS DEFINED BY THE MINIATURE PIG ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA. DUE TO THE PIGS ROOTING NATURE, WE'VE LIMITED THE NUMBER OF PIGS SOMEONE CAN OWN, WHICH WAS ALSO LIMITED IN THE PREVIOUS ORDINANCE. A TRACT OF LAND THAT IS LESS THAN 0.5 ACRES CAN HOUSE UP TO THREE PIGS. ATTRACTIVE LAND THAT IS BETWEEN 0.5 AND 2 ACRES CAN HOUSE UP TO SEVEN PIGS. IF YOU'RE CURIOUS TO KNOW, BANDIT LIVES ON 0.1 ACRES OF LAND, AND THAT'S FAR SMALLER THAN THE REQUIREMENT OF ONE ACRE THAT WE PASSED IN OCTOBER. HE HAS AMPLE SPACE TO ROAM, AND HE SEEMS RELATIVELY OKAY WITH HIS SPACE. OVERSEEING AN ANIMAL'S ENCLOSURE DOES NOT GUARANTEE THAT IT IS TAKEN CARE OF. FROM A WELFARE PERSPECTIVE, THE SIZE OF THE ENCLOSURE DOES NOT DETERMINE ITS QUALITY OF LIFE, AND WE HAVE OTHER LAWS THAT ARE IN PLACE TO DETERMINE THAT IT DOES HAVE A GOOD QUALITY OF LIFE. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THOSE OTHER REGULATIONS ARE PERFECT, BUT WE DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AT ANOTHER TIME TO EXAMINE THOSE OUTSIDE OF THIS ORDINANCE, WHICH ONLY ADDRESSES SPACE REQUIREMENTS. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR SUPPORT IN THIS ORDINANCE, AND I HOPEFULLY CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE PROBABLY SPOKE LONGER THAN SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE SPOKEN ON, BUT HOPEFULLY I HAVE YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER JENNY WOOLRIDGE, PLEASE. I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE THOROUGH EXPLANATION, CONSIDERING WHAT WE WENT THROUGH IN OCTOBER TO GET TO NOW. I APPRECIATE THE EXPLANATION BEHIND IT. SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AND I WILL SAY THAT WE HAD A AT OUR WONDERFUL TOWN HALL, AND THE FIRST ONE HAD TO BE RESCHEDULED BECAUSE OF THE SNOW, AND THEN WE RESCHEDULED IT, LIKE I SAID, TO FEBRUARY 5TH. AND WE HAD A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE AT THE SOUTH CENTRAL LOUISVILLE LIBRARY. AND INTERESTINGLY, AS THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR DISTRICT 15, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WERE ANY RESIDENTS FROM DISTRICT 15 IN THAT ROOM. SO I THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING I'M JUST SAYING THAT BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT REALLY IMPACTS OUR ENTIRE COUNTY. AND SO I HOPE THAT PEOPLE HAVE REACHED OUT TO THEIR COUNCIL PEOPLE TO LET THEM KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS TO THEM. SO THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT. CHAIR TIME. WE. COULD COULD I, COULD I SPEAK, PLEASE? YES, COUNCIL MEMBER OWEN, PLEASE. THANK YOU. CHAIR, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, AS YOU COULD TELL BY THE THOROUGH AND FAIRLY COMPLICATED EXPLANATION, THIS WAS REALLY, REALLY COMPLICATED. AND I REALLY WANTED TO THANK COUNCILWOMAN [01:20:03] CHAPPEL FOR TAKING IT ON AND DOING IT SO IN SUCH A THOROUGH WAY AND A THOUGHTFUL WAY, AND INCLUDING THE COMMUNITY AND THE CONVERSATION I'VE HEARD FROM MY PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN D NINE WHO WERE AFFECTED BY THIS, WHO HAVE SAID MANY TIMES HOW HOW WELL COUNCILWOMAN CHAPPELL DID. AND I JUST WANTED TO LET HER KNOW THAT WE'VE HEARD BACK FROM THEM THOSE POSITIVE REVIEWS. AND AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR WORK ON IT. IT WAS A COMPLICATED EFFORT, AND YOU GUYS DID DO A DEEP DIVE AND DID VERY WELL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. DID WE HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE IN THE QUEUE ON COUNCIL MEMBER SHAMIKA PARIS? RIGHT. PLEASE. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I TOO WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON COUNCILMAN OWEN, AND I DID THANK HER IN PERSON, BUT THANKING COUNCILWOMAN CHAPPELL FOR NERDING OUT ON THIS. I WILL ADMIT, THERE WAS FOUR WORDS THAT YOU USED THAT WERE NOT IN MY VOCABULARY, BUT MOST WERE BECAUSE OF MY LOVE FOR ANIMALS. AND AS A BIG ANIMAL HOLDER MYSELF, I. EVEN WHILE ON VACATION IN LATE JANUARY, HEARD FROM MY CONSTITUENTS WHILE I WAS IN FLORIDA AND KNOW THAT YOU'VE BEEN WORKING WITH ALL OF THEM. AND SO THIS HAS IMPACTED DISTRICT THREE A GREAT DEAL. I'VE MET SOME GOATS, CHICKENS AND OTHER ANIMALS THAT ARE IN DISTRICT THREE. AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR JUST AND I KNOW I SAY NERDY NOW, BUT I MEAN THAT IN THE HIGHEST COMPLIMENT OF BEING ABLE TO DO THAT, I WILL SAY THAT DISTRICTS ONE THROUGH SIX ARE VERY HIGH NEEDS AND KIDS, KIDS, CONSTITUENTS CONCERNS AND SO MANY OTHER THINGS THAT WHEN COUNCILMAN OWEN FIRST INTRODUCED THIS LEGISLATION, I WAS ALL FOR IT. AND I AND I THINK THAT THIS ORDINANCE DOESN'T UNDO OUR INTENTIONS THEN, AS COUNCILWOMAN WOOLWICH HAS EXPLAINED. BUT IT GIVES MORE DEFINITION. AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE, RIGHT? WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND WE HAVE TO FIX THINGS. I THINK THIS IS A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY OF US DOING THAT WITH COMMUNITY, AND THAT MEANS SO MUCH TO ME. SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. AND THEN ALSO TELL YOU THAT FEBRUARY 5TH ONE, I WATCHED YOU AND AMY MARCH OUT OF THE BUILDING, BUT I FELT YOU LOOK SO CONFIDENT, LIKE YOU HAD IT. I DIDN'T THINK I WANT I DIDN'T WANT TO COME IN LIKE I KNEW ALL THE THINGS. I KNEW THAT IT WAS IN GOOD HANDS. BUT I DO APPRECIATE YOU TAKING CARE OF THE DISTRICT THREE PEOPLE IN THIS PROCESS. THANK YOU. I DON'T SEE ANY MORE PEOPLE IN THE QUEUE ANY MORE. VIRTUALLY NO. HEARING? NONE. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRES A ROLL CALL. VOTE. CLERK, PLEASE OPEN THE ROLL. COUNCILWOMAN. PARISH. RIGHT. YES, COUNCILMAN. OWEN. YES. COUNCILMAN. REED. YES, COUNCILMAN WINKLER, I GOT YOU. YOU GOT IT. CHAIR. SAM, YOU HAVE TEN YES VOTES. THANK YOU. CLERK. THIS ORDINANCE HEARING THIS ORDINANCE GOES, PASSES AND WILL GO TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. THANK YOU. AND OUR NEXT REGULAR COMMITTEE MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR WEDNESDAY, JUNE 3RD AT 4 P.M. THERE ARE NO OTHER MATTERS. THIS COMMITTEE STANDS ADJOURNED. [Adjournment Note: Agendas are followed at the discretion of the Chair. While an item may be listed, it does not mean all items will be heard and/or acted upon by the Committee.] GOOD JOB. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.