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          30S. YOU GUYS, WE WILL BE STARTING I 30S. WRE AREE GOING TO TALK? YOU'RE NOT GOING 
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TO DO IT THERE. Y YOU CAN. OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS IS THE EQUITY COMMUNITY AFFAIRS, 
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HOUSING, HEALTH AND EDUCATION COMMITTEE. I AM THE CHAIR OF COUNCILWOMAN BARBARA SHANKLIN 
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WITH ME AS THE VICE CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART BENSON, LET ME SEE. I DON'T THINK I 
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HAVE A. CROWD. COUNCILMAN. DANCE. I'M COUNCILMEMBER TAMMY HAWKINS IS NOT HERE YET, AND NEITHER IS COUNCILWOMAN MARILYN PARKER. OKAY. WE HAVE DISCUSSION OF SPECIAL DISCUSSION. AND WE ALSO HAVE A STREET SIGNING, BUT HE IS NOT HERE. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD WITH A SPECIAL DISCUSSION. SO. WHO'S THE FIRST PERSON THAT'S GOING TO BE DISCUSSING 
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SOMETHING? OKAY. COULD YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME AND YOUR POSITION? CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW THERE. YES, YES. I'M TONY CURTIS, I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE METROPOLITAN HOUSING COALITION. 
          I WANTED TO, FIRST OF ALL, THANK THE COMMITTEE FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS HOUSING AND HEALTH TODAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT INVITATION AND WE APPRECIATE IT MUCH. THE SAFE AND STABLE HOUSING FOR ALL COALITION IS 46 ORGANIZATIONS FOCUSED ON INVESTMENT ACROSS THE ENTIRE HOUSING CONTINUUM AND ECOSYSTEM HERE IN LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY. TODAY'S PRESENTATION, YOU WILL HEAR FROM A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE LOUISVILLE URBAN LEAGUE AND 
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THEN A REPRESENTATIVE FROM PUSHING FORWARD. SO I WOULD LIKE TO TURN THAT OVER TO OUR FIRST SPEAKER. CAN I ASK YOU WEREN'T YOU HERE YESTERDAY IN ANOTHER COMMITTEE? YES, MA'AM. 
          OKAY. I'M JUST WONDERING BECAUSE NORMALLY WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME. YOU DON'T GO TO TWO DIFFERENT COMMITTEES WITH THE SAME ISSUES. THESE ARE THE SAME ISSUES. YEAH. WE HAVE DIFFERENT PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT ISSUES RELATED TO HOUSING. OKAY. SO THIS IS PRETTY MUCH DIFFERENT. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. THANKS. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS FELICIA NEWMAN. I AM THE DIRECTOR FOR THE CENTER FOR JUSTICE AND POLICY INITIATIVES AT THE LOUISVILLE URBAN LEAGUE AND ALSO OVER THE RILEY REENTRY PROGRAM, WHICH IS OUR EXPUNGEMENT PROGRAM. OH, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR THAT LAST ONE. I'M OVER THE EXPUNGEMENT PROGRAM AT THE LOUISVILLE URBAN LEAGUE. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. SO IN 1933, THE US GOVERNMENT INVENTED THE HOME OWNERS LOAN CORPORATION. IT WAS CREATED AS A RESIDENTIAL SECURITIES MAP TO GUIDE INVESTMENT IN US CITIES. AND IT INCLUDED LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY, KENTUCKY. AND THE MAP IS SHOWS RIGHT HERE. THIS IS WHAT THE MAP LOOKS LIKE IN KENTUCKY AT THAT TIME. THESE MAPS GRADED NEIGHBORHOODS ACCORDING TO DESIRABILITY FOR INVESTMENT. SO WHEN THEY WERE DRAWING THIS MAP, BLACK IMMIGRANT AND LOW INCOME RESIDENTS WERE GIVEN A LOWER GRADE, WHICH BASICALLY BANNED THEM FROM GETTING CREDIT OR FEDERALLY BACKED MORTGAGES, INSURANCECALL REDLINING. I THINK EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT THAT. AND EVEN TODAY, THE IMPACT OF THESE POLICIES IS REFLECTED IN THE PERCENTAGES OF HOMEOWNER HOME OWNER OCCUPIED UNITS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, RESULTING IN A REDUCED OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD AND PASS DOWN GENERATIONAL WEALTH. SO THIS MAP SHOWS THAT WHERE THESE RED SPACES ARE, YOU COULD NOT GET A FEDERAL MORTGAGE AND YOU COULD NOT A BANK MORTGAGE. I'M SORRY. AND CREDIT. THIS PARTICULAR MAP SHOWS THE MOST RECENT DATA FROM THE CENSUS BUREAU FOR RENTER OCCUPIED UNITS THAT CAN BE PRACTICALLY OVERLAID WITH THE PREVIOUS MAP. SO WHERE PEOPLE LIVED 40, 50, 60, 70 YEARS AGO, THOSE PEOPLE STILL LIVE THERE. RENTERS ARE MORE VULNERABLE TO ECONOMIC CHANGES THAN HOMEOWNERS, AND RISING RENTS ARE CONSUMING GREATER PORTIONS OF RESIDENTS INCOME. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU GUYS, BUT I WOULD BE HARD PRESSED TO KEEP MY BUDGET IN ORDER IF I HAD TO SPEND 50% OF MY MONTHLY INCOME ON HOUSING EXPENSES AND HOUSING EXPENSES INCLUDE YOUR RENT OR YOUR MORTGAGE AND YOUR UTILITIES. SO WE ALL KNOW THAT LG AND E HAS RISEN QUITE HIGHLY IN THE LAST FEW YEARS. WE KNOW THAT THE WATER IS KIND OF STAYED STABLE, BUT IT'S STILL A VERY HIGH EXPENSE. THE CONDITIONS CREATE GREATER INSTABILITY. THESE CONDITIONS CREATE GREATER INSTABILITY FOR FAMILIES AND INHIBIT THE ABILITY TO CREATE GENERAL GENERATIONAL ASSETS THAT THEY CAN PASS ON TO CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN. SO THE WAY THAT AMERICA WORKS IS YOU GET A HOUSE, YOU YOU CAN YOU CAN PAY FOR THAT HOUSE, PAY IT OFF. YOU CAN GET SECOND LINES OF CREDIT ON THAT HOUSE. AND BECAUSE IT'S AN ASSET YOU OWN, YOU CAN PASS THIS ASSET DOWN TO YOUR CHILDREN OR GRANDCHILDREN. BUT PEOPLE IN THE REDLINED AREAS ARE HARD PRESSED TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE COST BURDEN. HOUSEHOLDS IN JEFFERSON COUNTY, THE MEDIAN RENT IN JEFFERSON COUNTY IN 2024 WAS 1149 PER MONTH. THAT MEANS ONE HALF OF THE PEOPLE WERE PAYING MORE THAN 1149, AND ONE HALF OF THE PEOPLE WERE PAYING LESS THAN ONE. 1149 THE NUMBER OF HOUSING COST BURDEN HOUSEHOLDS PAYING 30% OR MORE FOR THEIR INCOME ON HOUSING COSTS, WHICH I REMINDED YOU IS RENT AND UTILITIES OR MORTGAGE AND UTILITIES HAS RISEN STEADILY FROM 2020 TO TODAY, WHEN FAMILIES HAVE TO SPEND 30 TO 50% ON THEIR HOUSING COSTS, THEY HAVE LESS DISPOSABLE INCOME. THEY CAN'T GO OUT TO EAT, THEY CAN'T GO TO MOVIES, THEY CAN'T DO THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT THEY ALSO IT AFFECTS THEIR 
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OTHER BASIC NEEDS LIKE FOOD, HEALTH CARE, EDUCATION, AND CHILD CARE. THE COST BURDEN HOUSEHOLDS ARE MORE LIKELY TO EXPERIENCE FOOD INSECURITY, CHILD POVERTY, AND ADVERSE HEALTH OUTCOMES. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S MOST INTERESTING TO ME, WHEN I WAS PRACTICING AS AN ATTORNEY BEFORE MY ROLE AT THE URBAN LEAGUE, IS THAT MANY PEOPLE THERE IS A CORRELATION BETWEEN STUDENT OUTCOMES AND EVICTION. IF YOU DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO CALL HOME, LAY YOUR HEAD DOWN AND BE STABLE. THE CHILDREN'S GRADES GREATLY SUFFER. SO IT MEANS THAT THIS BASICALLY MEANS THAT MANY WORKING FAMILIES ARE OFTEN ONE CRISIS AWAY FROM EVICTION. CAR REPAIR, ER VISIT AN UNEXPECTED HIGH UTILITY BILL COULD KNOCK THEM OFF THE SQUARE. I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS PRACTICING AND WE HAD A THIS IS A COMMERCIAL SPACE. WE HAD A LGE BILL OF SEVEN 750. CAN YOU IMAGINE? AND I'VE HEARD THAT FROM PEOPLE NOW IN HOMES WHERE THEY'RE HOME, UTILITY BILLS ARE IN THE SIX AND $700. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT EVICTION FILINGS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT ALL THIS LEADS TO. WHILE EVICTIONS DROPPED IN 2020 AND 2021 DUE TO THE MORATORIUM ON EVICTIONS BECAUSE OF COVID AND THE EVICTION PREVENTION FUNDS THAT WERE USED FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO COVER RENTS, THEY HAVE SINCE RETURNED TO PRE-COVID LEVELS. INEQUALITIES SHOW UP IN EVICTION COURT. NOW. WHAT'S EXTREMELY SAD ABOUT THIS EVICTION IS IT AFFECTS CHILDREN AND NATIONALLY. FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN ARE TWICE AS LIKELY TO FACE EVICTION AS HOUSEHOLDS WITH NO CHILDREN, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY CHILDREN ARE ANOTHER FINANCIAL BURDEN, A HAPPY BURDEN, BUT ANOTHER FINANCIAL BURDEN. THERE ARE RACIAL DISPARITIES IN EVICTIONS. LESS THAN 1 IN 5 RENTERS IN THE US ARE BLACK, BUT THEY COVER 18.8% OF OVER OVER HALF THE EVICTIONS FILINGS ARE AGAINST BLACK BLACK RENTERS. AND WE HAVE. IF YOU'D LIKE TO KNOW SOME OF OUR SOURCES, WE CAN PROVIDE THAT AFTER THE HEARING. 27% OF THE BLACK CHILDREN UNDER FIVE ARE IN RENTER HOUSEHOLDS FACE EVICTION EVERY YEAR. AND WE KNOW, LIKE I SAID, THAT THAT AFFECTS HEALTH OUTCOMES. AND WE'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT FROM OUR NEXT SPEAKER. THE LOUISVILLE URBAN LEAGUE HAS A DEPARTMENT CALLED THE CENTER FOR HOUSING AND FINANCIAL EMPOWERMENT. WE OFFER COMPREHENSIVE HOUSING COUNSELING SERVICES TO EQUIP FAMILIES WITH THE KNOWLEDGE AND SUPPORT TO ADDRESS THEIR HOUSING GOALS, IMPROVE THEIR FINANCIAL SITUATION, AND AVOID THE CRISIS OF FORECLOSURE. WE HAVE SERVICES THAT INCLUDE HOMEOWNERSHIP COUNSELING. WE HAVE A CLASS THAT IS ONCE A MONTH CALLED FINANCIALLY IN TUNE, WHICH IS CALLED FIT FIT FOR LIFE. WE PROVIDE HELP WITH RENTAL READINESS, AND WE ALSO PROVIDE FINANCIAL EMPOWERMENT CENTER WHERE WE HELP WITH BUDGETS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. THE LEAGUE'S WORK WITH OUR HOUSING DEPARTMENT IS A DIRECT STRIKE AGAINST ECONOMIC EXCLUSION. MORE THAN DEBT RELIEF IS A CRITICAL ACT OF PRESERVING GENERATIONAL WEALTH IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. WE WORK DIRECTLY WITH THE CLIENTS AND FAMILIES TO HELP THEM ACHIEVE THEIR FINANCIAL GOALS AVOIDING FORECLOSURE, ASSISTING WITH UTILITY BILLS, AND BECOMING HOMEOWNERS. THE THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT CHALLENGES A HOUSING MARKET PLAGUED BY HIGH INTEREST RATES, HISTORIC REDLINING, AND A LACK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO KIARA JAMES FROM PUSHING FORWARD TO TELL YOU MORE ABOUT THE SOCIAL DETERMINANTS OF HEALTH. CAN I ASK YOU SOMETHING? YES, MA'AM. YOU SAID Y'ALL ASSIST WITH UTILITIES OUTSIDE OF THE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT THE UTILITIES, BECAUSE I HAVE PEOPLE CALLING ALL THE TIME LOOKING FOR FUNDING FOR RENT AND UTILITIES. SO WE CAN SEND THEM TO YOU GUYS. WELL, WHAT WE DO IS WE HAVE A COLLECTION OF ALL THE AGENCIES AND ALL THE PROGRAMS AND ALL THE GRANTS THAT GIVE OUT ASSISTANCE FOR UTILITIES. SO WE HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE LIST. WE HAVE SOMETHING CALLED HEALTH NAVIGATORS, AND THEY ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THE FRONT LINE WORKERS IN OUR ORGANIZATION. THEY WILL, IF A PERSON COMES IN WITH A NEED, THEY WILL DO AN ASSESSMENT AND THEN DIRECT THEM TO ALL THE DIFFERENT PLACES THAT THEY CAN GO TO GET ASSISTANCE. SOMETIMES IT WILL BE THE LEAGUE AND SOMETIMES IT WILL NOT BE, BUT WE WILL GIVE 
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YOU THE INFORMATION TO DO TO GET TO ANY TYPE OF NEED THAT YOU HAVE THAT'S AVAILABLE IN THE CITY. SO YOU CAN SEND THEM TO US. I CAN THAT'S WHAT I'M ANSWERING. YOU CAN SEND THEM TO US, YOU GUYS. I WOULD LOVE TO. EVERY PLACE I SENT THEM, THEY SAID, WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE MONEY. SO THAT IS A PROBLEM. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IN MY ROLE AS THE DIRECTOR OF POLICY, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, THAT WE NEED TO HAVE ASSISTANCE FOR FAMILIES IN THESE TIMES WHERE ELECTRICITY AND WATER BILLS ARE EXTRAORDINARILY HIGH. OKAY. AND BEFORE WE START, I WANT TO SAY COUNCILWOMAN TAMMY HAWKINS IS HERE. AND ALSO COUNCILWOMAN MARILYN PARKER IS ON VIDEO, BUT YOU DON'T SEE HER RIGHT NOW. SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO KIERRA. 
          ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. HELLO. MY NAME IS KIERRA JAMES. I AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND FOUNDER OF PUSHING FORWARD, A NONPROFIT THAT HELPS INDIVIDUALS AFTER EXPERIENCING TRAUMATIC SPINAL CORD INJURY GET ACCESS TO RESOURCES. SO WE ALL KNOW THAT HOUSING IS ONE OF THE MOST CRITICAL SOCIAL DETERMINANTS OF HEALTH AND NOT HAVING PROPER HOUSING, SUITABLE HOUSING CAN REALLY IMPACT HOW OUR QUALITY OF LIFE AND OUTCOMES ARE. SO WHEN WE WANT TO HELP FOLKS, WE ALWAYS LOOK AT THE SOCIAL DETERMINANTS OF HEALTH TO SEE WHAT ARE THE CONDITIONS IN THE ENVIRONMENT AND IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WILL ALLOW US TO LIVE, LEARN, WORK, PLAY, AND ALSO WORSHIP. SO THERE IS NO PLACE LIKE HOME. HOUSING INSTABILITY IS DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTS LOW INCOME HOUSEHOLDS, MAJORITY MINORITY POPULATIONS, AND ALSO PEOPLE LIVING WITH DISABILITIES. HOUSING IS ESSENTIAL. IT IS SO IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE A ROOF OVER YOUR HEAD, BUT ALSO IS THE ROOF OF YOUR HEAD NOT LEAKING, SUCH AS THE PICTURE THAT IS SHOWN HERE? BUT IF THERE'S MOLD, POOR VENTILATION, IF THERE'S INFESTATION, STRUCTURAL DAMAGE, IT CAN CAUSE CHRONIC CONDITIONS SUCH AS THOSE ON THIS LIST ASTHMA, FALLING SLIPS AND FALLS, RESPIRATORY ISSUES ALSO INCREASED INFECTIONS AND POTENTIAL OF MALNUTRITION DUE TO THE ABILITY TO GET AND ALSO STORE HEALTHY FOODS. SO PUSHING FORWARD WAS FOUNDED BECAUSE HOUSING IS SO IMPORTANT. BEFORE YOU LEAVE THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM, A HOSPITAL, YOU NEED TO HAVE A PLACE TO GO. YOU NEED TO HAVE HOUSING. AND FOR THE CLIENTS I SERVE THAT HAVE A TRAUMATIC SPINAL CORD INJURY, OFTEN BEING PARALYZED DUE TO IT, THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO GO HOME FROM THE HEALTH CARE SETTING BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE A SAFE WAY TO GET HOME. AND THERE ALSO WASN'T A PLAN THAT THE HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS FELT COMFORTABLE WITH TO SEND THEM BACK. SO PUSHING FORWARD WAS CREATED OUT OF THE NECESSITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SERVE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE BEEN PARALYZED. FELICIA TALKED ABOUT, YOU ARE ONE INCIDENT AWAY FROM NEEDING A LOT OF SUPPORT WHEN IT COMES TO HOUSING AND STABILITY, AND SO PUSHING FORWARD HAS BEEN ABLE TO ALLOW CLIENTS WHO'VE BEEN IMPACTED BY A, A MOBILITY DISABILITY TO HAVE THAT. SO THE MOST REQUESTED HOUSING STABILITY RESOURCES FROM OUR AGENCY IS UTILITY ASSISTANCE, FOOD ASSISTANCE, WHEELCHAIR TRANSPORTATION, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T NORMALLY LIKE IF YOU HAVE A, DEPENDING ON WHAT KIND OF WHEELCHAIR YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE TO USE A SPECIAL, ACCOMMODATING VEHICLE TO GET YOU TO AND FROM APPOINTMENTS. BUT THEN ALSO HOW HOME MODIFICATIONS. SO YOU MAY HAVE A RAMP TO GET YOU INSIDE OF YOUR HOME, BUT WHEN YOU'RE INSIDE YOUR HOME, DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU LIVE, IF IT'S AN OLDER HOME, YOU MAY HAVE SMALLER DOORWAYS, THE BATHROOM MAY NOT BE ACCESSIBLE AND ACCESS THROUGH JUST YOUR IN YOUR WHEELCHAIR. SO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE CONNECT OUR PATIENTS TO RESOURCES THAT CAN BE ABLE TO HELP MAKE THOSE THINGS A REALITY FOR THEM, OR AT LEAST MAKE LIVING EASIER BECAUSE WE KNOW THE MAX. SOCIAL SECURITY IN KENTUCKY IS $994. WELL, THE AVERAGE ONE BEDROOM APARTMENT IS $1,127 A MONTH. SO IF YOU SPEND YOUR WHOLE CHECK ON LIVING, YOU ONLY ARE LEFT WITH $133. AND THAT IS TO NOT ONLY HELP WITH UTILITIES, BUT ALSO TO HELP WITH FOOD. AND THAT IS ALSO TO IF YOU ARE JUST A SINGLE PERSON, WELL, IF YOU HAVE KIDS AND YOU ADD THEM INTO THE EQUATION, YOU ALSO HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR KIDS, GET THEM TO AND FROM, HAVE TO DO CLOTHES EVERY SEASON. SO YOU ARE LEFT WITH A LITTLE AMOUNT OF MONEY AND HAVE TO MAKE SOME CHOICES ON IF I'M GOING TO HAVE SUPPORT, MY HOUSING NEEDS OR ALSO SUPPORT MY FAMILY. SO SOME OF THE CHRONIC CONDITIONS THAT IMPACT NOT ONLY HOUSING, BUT ALSO US, THE INDIVIDUALS 
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IMPACTED, BUT ALSO IF THEY HAVE A SIGNIFICANT OTHER OR A PARENT, BUT ALSO THEIR CHILDREN. AND THEN THE COMMUNITY PEOPLE EXPERIENCE HOUSING INSTABILITY ARE MORE LIKELY TO MISS THEIR MEDICAL APPOINTMENTS, WHICH LEADS TO BEING HOSPITALIZED AND ALSO FREQUENT READMISSIONS TO HEALTH CARE SETTINGS. SHORT TERM OR LONG TERM HEALTH CARE FACILITIES, SUCH AS GOING FROM THE HOSPITAL TO A REHAB SETTING, AND THEN HIGHER UTILIZATION, UTILIZATION OF EMERGENCY ROOM. 
          YOU ALSO WILL HAVE HIGHER SPENDING COSTS TOWARDS COPAYS, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO GO SO FREQUENTLY OUT OF POCKET COST FOR MEDICAL SUPPLIES, BECAUSE SOMETIMES YOU RUN OUT BEFORE YOUR INSURANCE IS ABLE TO YOU SOME MORE MEDICAL SUPPLIES THAT HELP TO BE USEFUL FOR DAILY NEED. ALSO OUT OF POCKET COST FOR TRANSPORTATION, EVEN IF YOU HAVE TO PARK THREE IF YOU HAPPEN TO MISS YOUR APPOINTMENT OR IF YOU'RE NOT SCHEDULING YOUR APPOINTMENT IN ADVANCE, THAT TRANSPORTATION COSTS CONTINUES TO RISE UP. BUT ALSO, TOO, YOU MAY NEED TO GO TO A NOT A DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT, BUT TO THE GROCERY STORE. AND MEDICAL MEDICAL INSURANCE DOES NOT COVER YOU GOING TO THE GROCERY STORE WHEN IT COMES TO TRANSPORTATION, THEN YOU HAVE YOUR COST OF MEDICATIONS. AND THAT CAN BE A VERY HIGH EXPENSE DEPENDING ON WHAT YOUR MEDICATION IS. AND THEN THE LOSS OF INCOME FROM CAREGIVERS. WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEONE ELSE HELPING TO TAKE CARE OF YOU, THEY ALSO ARE MISSING OUT ON OPPORTUNITIES TO GO TO WORK. 
          BUT THEN ALSO HAVING TO SPEND MORE TIME AS A CAREGIVER, TAKING CARE OF THE INDIVIDUAL. 
          HOUSING IS QUALITY OF LIFE. THE AVERAGE LIFE EXPECTANCY IS 73.2 YEARS, DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU LIVE. AND THEN IN THE NORTHWEST CORE OF OUR OF LOUISVILLE, IT IS 62 YEARS. AND THEN IN SOUTHERN FLOYD, SOUTHERN FLOYD FORK IS 79 YEARS. AND IT JUST KIND OF MAKES YOU PUT IN PERSPECTIVE WHAT IS GOING ON IN OUR COMMUNITY TO WHERE LIFE EXPECTANCY IS DIFFERENT. AND IT SHOULD BE QUITE THE SAME. HOUSING SHAPES THE FUTURE. SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE KIND OF LIKE THE ADULTS AND THE PARENTS ABILITY TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR KIDS, BUT IT ALL TRICKLES DOWNHILL. SO IF HOUSING INSTABILITY IS CLOSELY TIED TO EDUCATIONAL DISPARITIES IN SCHOOL, IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A SAFE STRUCTURE TO SLEEP IN AT NIGHT, OR ANY STRUCTURE AT ALL TO SLEEP IN AT NIGHT, YOU ARE GOING TO BE AT RISK OF PERFORMING UNWELL IN SCHOOL. SO ACTIONS IS IF YOU FREQUENTLY HAVE TO MOVE, YOU MISS THAT EDUCATION. IF YOU ARE FACED WITH EVICTION, SOMETIMES YOUR PRIORITIES IS NOT EVEN GETTING YOUR KID TO SCHOOL. IT IS FIGURING OUT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO LAY OUR HEAD. YOU HAVE PERIODS OF HOMELESSNESS AND THEN CHANGING SCHOOLS MULTIPLE TIMES AND HAVING THE KIDS HAVE TO BE RE ACCLIMATED TO A NEW SCHOOL SYSTEM. YOU ARE INCREASE OF DROPPING OUT. YOU HAVE DIFFICULTY BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS NOT ONLY WITH YOUR PEERS, BUT WITH TEACHERS. AND RECENTLY, ON APRIL 27TH, AN ARTICLE CAME OUT AND IN THE NEWS WHERE JEFFERSON COUNTY WAS AMONG THE TOP FIVE SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN THE STATE WITH A HIGH HOMELESS STUDENT POPULATION, THAT WAS 4% OF JCPS STUDENTS, WHICH IS ABOUT 3000 3500 TO ALMOST 4000 STUDENTS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS WITHIN OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM. AND THEN HOUSING IS PSYCHOLOGICAL SAFETY FROM HEALTHY PEOPLE, WHICH IS THE CDC WEBSITE. IT SAYS THAT 42% OF PEOPLE EXPERIENCE ANXIETY WHEN THEY ARE EXPERIENCING HOUSING INSTABILITY, AND THEN 57% OF YOUNG PEOPLE HAVE REPORTED DEPRESSION AS A RESULT OF NOT REALLY KNOWING WHERE THEY WERE GOING TO SLEEP. AND THEN HOUSING INSTABILITY ALSO INCREASES THE RATE OF SUICIDE. AND IN OUR STATE, SUICIDE CONTINUES TO BE ONE OF THE LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH FOR OUR YOUTH. SO THESE ARE TWO INDIVIDUALS THAT I HAVE HAVE BEEN BLESSED TO WORK WITH TY ON THIS PHOTO. HE WAS PARALYZED AT THE AGE OF 17. ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I FOUNDED THE ORGANIZATION. HE WAS PARALYZED AND HIS FAMILY HAD NO MEANS TO BE ABLE TO TRANSFER HIM FROM THE HEALTH CARE SETTING TO BACK HOME, AND HE SPENT OVER 42 DAYS IN THE HOSPITAL TURNING 18 IN THE HOSPITAL BECAUSE HE HAD NO WAY TO GET HOME. HE IS NOW 24 AND IS RECENTLY GOT AN APARTMENT OF HIS OWN, AND WHEN HE GOT AN APARTMENT OF HIS OWN, IT WAS WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE. AND HE SAID, LIKE, THE FIRST THING HE SAID WAS, IT'S LIKE THE APARTMENT WAS MADE FOR ME. HE'S ABLE TO WILL HIS WHEELCHAIR THROUGH. HE'S ABLE TO USE EVERY PART, AN INCH OF THAT HOUSE. HE'S ABLE TO ROLL UNDERNEATH THE SINK. SO WHEN WE PAY ATTENTION, ATTENTION TO THOSE DETAILS, YOU CAN HAVE A 
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HOME. AND THEN RECENTLY ON, ON ACTUALLY VALENTINE'S DAY THIS YEAR, MISS ALICIA, SHE SENT ME A TEXT MESSAGE. SHE SAID, HEY, IT'S BEEN A LONG JOURNEY, BUT I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. SHE'S LIKE, I CAN FINALLY LEAVE MY PORCH AFTER 22 MONTHS. I ALSO GOT MY WHEELCHAIR. SO LAST YEAR WE WERE ABLE TO PUT A RAMP ON HER HOME, BUT IT TOOK HER 22 MONTHS TO GET A WHEELCHAIR, 22 MONTHS TO GET A WHEELCHAIR. SO SHE WAS STUCK IN HER HOME, WAITING FOR A CUSTOM WHEELCHAIR SO THAT SHE CAN GO OUTSIDE OF HER HOME AND ALSO TO GO TO APPOINTMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IF SHE DIDN'T HAVE ANYONE AT HOME TO HELP HER GET IN AND OUT OF THAT HOME OR INTO ANOTHER WHEELCHAIR, IT CAN MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO HAVE THE BEST QUALITY OF LIFE. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. THANK YOU. ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING FOR HER? COUNCILMAN STEIN I. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. PROTOCOL FOR ASSESSMENT. WHAT'S THE PROTOCOL FOR ASSESSMENT? ASSESSING THESE FOLKS THAT NEED HELP FROM MY ORGANIZATION STANDPOINT, FROM THE THE HOUSING, FROM THIS GROUP YOU'RE REPRESENTING TODAY. WHAT'S THE THE PROTOCOL FOR THOSE WHO ARE HOMELESS? AND WE'RE TRYING TO HELP, ARE WE? AND I'M TELLING YOU WHAT GETS ME TO THAT QUESTION. ARE WE COUNTING FOLKS THAT HAVE MISMANAGED THEIR LIVES, WHO HAVE WHO ARE SPENDING $100, $200 A WEEK FOR TOBACCO PRODUCTS, WHO ARE, YOU KNOW, JUST BAD ACTORS AND DIDN'T DIDN'T HANDLE THINGS RIGHT? HOW ARE WE ASSESSING THESE PEOPLE AND THEIR AND THE NEEDS? SURE. SO LIZ MCLELLAN WITH METRO UNITED WAY ALSO PART OF THE SAFE AND STABLE COALITION. SO, YOU KNOW, WE ARE A COALITION OF ORGANIZATIONS. 
          SOME OF US ARE SERVICE PROVIDERS, SOME OF US ARE NOT. BUT EACH ORGANIZATION SORT OF HAS THEIR OWN CRITERIA. WE DO HAVE SOME SERVICE PROVIDERS WITHIN THERE THAT PROVIDE EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE. YOU KNOW, SOME OF THAT IS BASED ON INCOME, WORK HISTORY, DISABILITY, THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT RIGHT NOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS NOT THE FUNDS, MOST OF THE FUNDS THAT THEY GET, THEY MIGHT HAVE SOME GRANTS THROUGH METRO, BUT MOST OF THE FUNDS THAT THEY GET ARE PRIVATE FUNDRAISING. SO YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT THESE THEY'RE DIFFERENT NONPROFITS THAT COME TO YOU, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE A PROTOCOL FOR. SO WE ARE JUST A COALITION THAT IS COMING TOGETHER TO, TO PRIORITIZE, TO COME TOGETHER AND ASK COUNCIL TO PRIORITIZE INVESTMENT. WE DON'T WORK TOGETHER FOR A SPECIFIC WORK STREAM AROUND HOUSING. BUT. OKAY. WHAT LIZ IS SAYING ABOUT OUR COALITION IS DIFFERENT, BUT I'M GOING TO LET YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO KIND OF ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE LITTLE URBAN LEAGUE. WHAT ASSESSMENT DO WE DO TO HELP PEOPLE? YOU COME TO OUR DOOR AND IF YOU NEED HELP, WE'RE GOING TO HELP YOU. IF YOU COME TO OUR DOORS AND AND WE DO ASSESSMENTS IN TERMS OF WHAT'S YOUR WHAT'S YOUR JOB IF YOU DON'T HAVE A JOB, WE'RE TRYING TO HELP YOU FIND A JOB. IF YOU NEED ASSISTANCE IN GETTING AN APARTMENT, WE'RE GOING TO HELP YOU FIND ASSISTANCE TO GET TO AN APARTMENT. OUR MISSION STATEMENT BASICALLY SAYS PEOPLE IN NEED DESERVE HELP. PEOPLE IN WHO DON'T HAVE A HOUSE TO LIVE IN. WE BELIEVE IT'S A HUMAN RIGHT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A HOUSE. WE BELIEVE THAT IT'S A HUMAN RIGHT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE FOOD. WE BELIEVE IT'S A HUMAN RIGHT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE UTILITIES PAID FOR AND BE ABLE TO HAVE WATER AND ELECTRICITY AND A TELEPHONE. SO WHEN WE GO THROUGH AND EVALUATE THE PERSON, WE FIND OUT WHERE THEY ARE, AND WE TRY TO HELP THEM TO GET FURTHER ALONG. IS THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? WHICH ONE? YEAH. GO AHEAD. IF I COULD REAL QUICK, I JUST WANT TO SAY SOMETHING. BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS, IS THAT YOU MEET PEOPLE WHERE THEY'RE AT. RIGHT? RIGHT. BUT EACH SERVICE PROVIDER MIGHT MIGHT MEET A DIFFERENT NICHE IN THAT CONTINUUM. SO GEORGE EKLUND, COALITION FOR THE HOMELESS, HIS MEMBERS ARE, ARE SERVING PEOPLE WHO ARE HOMELESS AND ARE, AND ARE LOOKING TO GET EMERGENCY SHELTER AND THEN EVENTUALLY HOUSING. WE ALSO HAVE MEMBERS THAT ARE HELPING PEOPLE IN THAT HOUSING STABILITY SPACE. SO THEY ARE HOUSED, BUT THEY'RE MAYBE ONE PAYCHECK OR, YOU KNOW, ONE PAYCHECK OR ONE CAR REPAIR AWAY FROM FROM MISSING THEIR RENT. AND SO WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE 
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PROVIDERS AT DIFFERENT POINTS ALONG THE CONTINUUM. SO IF YOU'VE GOT A BAD ACTOR AND HE'S COMING TO YOU FOR SUPPORT, YOU'RE JUST GOING TO GIVE HIM THE SUPPORT BECAUSE HE ASKED FOR IT. OR ARE YOU FINDING IS THIS GUY ON THE LAM? IS THIS GUY, YOU KNOW, IS HE SPENDING HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS A DAY ON DOPE? I MEAN, HOW ARE THESE PEOPLE? SURE. WELL, I MEAN, WE CAN CERTAINLY TALK WITH SOME OF OUR SERVICE PROVIDERS AND GET YOU THE CRITERIA THAT THEY USE. 
          BUT I WOULD SAY THAT I KNOW THAT A LOT OF THE PROVIDERS THAT ARE IN THAT ARE IN THE COALITION HAVE MAYBE DIFFERENT CRITERIA THAT THEY USE. SOME OF THEM DO UTILITY ASSISTANCE, SOME MIGHT DO RENTAL ASSISTANCE, SOME MIGHT DO ONE TIME, SOME MIGHT HAVE. YOU CAN ONLY GET ASSISTANCE A COUPLE OF TIMES WITHIN A CERTAIN TIME PERIOD, BUT IT'S DIFFERENT CRITERIA BASED ON THE POPULATION THAT THEY'RE SERVING OR THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY'RE SERVING. 
          BUT IT IS USUALLY INCOME BASED. SOME OF THEM HAVE WORK REQUIREMENTS, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          THANK YOU. CAN I GO AHEAD AND FINISH THE PRESENTATION? IS THAT. SORRY, I CAN HEAR YOU. OH, YOU'VE GOT A PRESENTATION TOO. I HAVE A CONCLUDING SOME CONCLUDING REMARKS I'D LIKE TO MAKE. OKAY. IS THAT OKAY? YES. SO YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT SOME OF THE HISTORICAL INEQUITIES IN OUR CITY AND HOW THAT TRANSLATES TO SOME VERY REAL, MEASURABLE HEALTH OUTCOMES IMMEDIATELY, BUT ALSO OVER THE LONG TERM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT OUR COALITION AND MANY STAKEHOLDERS IN THE PROVIDER SPACE HAVE REALLY FOCUSED ON IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS IS THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A STRONG HOUSING CONTINUUM. THAT CONTINUUM IS DYNAMIC. PEOPLE ENTER IT AND MOVE UP AND DOWN IT CONSISTENTLY, AND IT SHOULD BE REFLECTIVE OF THE ENTIRE LOUISVILLE HOUSING NEED, BUT ALSO THE HOUSING LANDSCAPE. THIS SUPPORTS HOUSEHOLDS WHERE THEY ARE ALONG THAT CONTINUUM. AND TO DO THAT, WE ALSO NEED SUPPORTIVE SERVICES AND INVESTMENTS TO MEET FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS WHERE THOSE ARE ON THIS CONTINUUM. AND THAT CONTINUUM IS ALSO A PHYSICAL SPACE OF HOUSING FROM A SUPPLY SIDE, BUT ALSO THE SUPPORTING SERVICES THAT GO ALONG WITH IT. AND THE CONTINUUM REALLY DOES MATTER HERE. WE'RE FORTUNATE ENOUGH THAT METRO COUNCIL AND THE ADMINISTRATION HAVE REALLY UNDERSTOOD THAT WE CAN'T JUST INVEST IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE ALSO HAVE TO INVEST IN THE SUPPORTIVE SERVICES SYSTEM FOR PEOPLE MOVING FROM THE STREET INTO HOUSING. AND WE CAN'T JUST INVEST IN SUPPORTIVE SERVICES. 
          WE ALSO HAVE TO HAVE INTERVENTIONS THAT KEEP PEOPLE STABLY HOUSED AND THAT HELP PEOPLE STAY IN HOMES THAT THEY OWN. AND TO KEEP DOING THAT, WE NEED CONTINUUM TO BE VERY INTENTIONAL, VERY DYNAMIC ABOUT FOSTERING PARTNERSHIPS, INVESTMENT AND COORDINATED SOLUTIONS FOR HOUSING. THE HOUSING ALLIANCE OF LOUISVILLE, A COALITION OF ORGANIZATIONS ALONG THE HOUSING CONTINUUM, OUR FUNDERS, LOCAL AND STATE GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, ADVOCACY AND POLITICAL POLICY ORGANIZATIONS, AND OTHER COMMUNITY PARTNERS. THE GOAL OF THE ALLIANCE HOUSING ALLIANCE OF LOUISVILLE IS TO FOSTER SHARED RELATIONSHIPS AND INFORMATION SHARING ACROSS THE HOUSING SPECTRUM HOMELESS SERVICES, EVICTION PREVENTION AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT TO FOSTER COLLABORATION AND TO MAKE EVERYONE'S HOUSING SITUATION BETTER. BECAUSE HOMELESS SERVICES PROVIDERS CAN'T BE SUCCESSFUL IF WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS FOR THEIR CLIENTS TO ULTIMATELY MOVE INTO, AND PROVIDERS THAT HELP HOUSEHOLDS WITH EVICTION PREVENTION, A COORDINATED APPROACH ACROSS THE CONTINUUM INCREASES HOUSING STABILITY, BOTH SHORT TERM AND LONG TERM, AND LEADS TO BETTER OUTCOMES FOR CHILDREN, FOR LONG TERM HEALTH AND FOR MENTAL WELL-BEING. AND LOUISVILLE IS VERY FORTUNATE THAT WE HAVE HAD A GREAT DEAL OF INVESTMENT ACROSS THE HOUSING CONTINUUM OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS. SINCE 2020, LOUISVILLE METRO GOVERNMENT HAS INVESTED AT LEAST $290 MILLION INTO HOUSING. METRO COUNCIL MADE HOUSING A TOP PRIORITY WHEN IT CAME TO THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT INVESTMENTS DURING THE PANDEMIC, WITH $89 MILLION INVESTED IN 2021 FOR THE TRUST FUND, PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE, HOME REPAIR, TRANSITIONAL HOUSING AND MORE. AND ANOTHER 110 MILLION OF ARPA DOLLARS TOWARDS RENTAL ASSISTANCE. THAT HELPED. MORE THAN 42,000 HOUSEHOLDS REMAIN STABLY HOUSED. THESE FUNDS ONLY REPRESENT ARPA DOLLARS DIRECTED BY THE CITY AND GENERAL FUND DOLLARS. WE KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN MUCH MORE IN OTHER FEDERAL FUNDING 
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SOURCES, LIKE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANTS, HOPWA, ESG, SOME OPIOID DOLLARS, NOT TO MENTION EXTERNAL AGENCY FUNDS OR SPECIFIC LINE ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL ORGANIZATIONS AND PROJECTS. HOWEVER, AS FEDERAL COVID FUNDS HAVE LAPSED, WE KNOW THAT THERE IS EVEN MORE DEMAND FOR ELLEN. FOR LOUISVILLE METRO GOVERNMENT'S GENERAL FUND DOLLARS, PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROJECTS ARE COMING ONLINE ACROSS THE CITY OF LOUISVILLE, INCLUDING SHEAHAN'S LANDING, WELLSPRING, THE COMMUNITY CARE CAMPUS AND MORE. LOUISVILLE HOME FOR GOOD IS BRINGING STAKEHOLDERS TOGETHER FROM ACROSS THE CONTINUUM TO ADDRESS CHRONIC HOMELESSNESS IN A HOLISTIC WAY. TOGETHER, WE HAVE A CHANCE TO MAKE LOUISVILLE A PLACE WHERE EVERYONE HAS SAFE, STABLE AND AFFORDABLE PLACE TO CALL HOME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. O'NEILL SPEAKING. THAT IS ALL. WE WOULD LOVE TO ENTERTAIN QUESTIONS IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS. YEAH, I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I HAVE A COMMENT ABOUT. SHE HAD LANDED. IT'S IN MY DISTRICT AND I KNOW IT'S HOMELESS FOR MEN, FOR MEN. WE'VE BEEN HAVING A LOT OF TROUBLE WITH THAT. THEY'RE JUST EVERYWHERE. THEY'RE GOING IN THE STORES, HARASSING THE STORES AND ALL OF THAT. AND SO RIGHT THERE IN IN AT THE INDIAN TRAIL SHOPPING CENTER, THEY GO OVER THERE AND I'VE CALLED AND THEY SAID THAT THEY CAN'T TELL THEM THEY CAN'T GO. SO, I MEAN, WHEN THEY HAVE THESE HERE HOMELESS SITES, IT SEEMS LIKE TO ME THAT THEY WOULD HAVE SOME KIND OF SECURITY OR SOMETHING WHERE THEY JUST DON'T DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO. I HAVE THE H&R PEOPLE THAT TOOK PICTURES CALLED EVERY DAY. THEY HARASSED THOSE PEOPLE UNTIL THEY LEFT. SO SOMETIMES WHEN YOU PUT A LOT OF HOMELESS PEOPLE IN ONE SPOT TOGETHER AND THEY'RE NOT SUPERVISED PROPERLY, PROPERLY, THEY HAVE A TENDENCY TO GO OUT AND DO THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY. JUST JUST BECAUSE YOU PUT THEM IN A PLACE, IT DOESN'T CHANGE THEIR ATTITUDE. SO I'M JUST REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT ONE. COUNCILWOMAN, IF I COULD JUST MAKE A COMMENT ON THAT. SHANNON LANDING IS A IS A SITE THAT I THINK IS 80 BEDS THERE, BUT PART OF THE MAYOR'S HOME FOR GOOD INITIATIVE TOO, IS LOOKING AT AND SORT OF THE MILWAUKEE MODEL THAT IT WAS SORT OF FORMED AFTER IS LOOKING AT SCATTERED SITE TWO. SO THEY'VE REALLY ENGAGED LANDLORDS ACROSS THE CITY TO TO LOOK AT EXISTING HOUSING STOCK. SO THAT'S PART OF THE SOLUTION TOO, IS LOOKING AT WHERE ARE THERE UNITS ALREADY AVAILABLE THAT THEY CAN PLACE PEOPLE AND, AND THEN SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THEY'RE LOOKING AT AS WELL, RIGHT? BUT THIS WAS BRAND NEW BECAUSE I WENT TO THE GROUND. I MEAN, WHEN THE RIBBON CUT, IT'S BRAND NEW AND THEY DO HAVE OTHER CLIENTS IN THERE. BUT MY PROBLEM IS THEY DON'T HAVE THE SECURITY OR SOMETHING THAT MAINTAINS THIS GROUP. AND SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS NEED TO LOOK AT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT LOTS OF COMPLAINTS EVEN WITH THE POLICE. SO THAT'S ONLY THE ONE. AND WE JUST NEED TO LOOK AT IT BEFORE WE PUT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THERE THAT ARE JUST UNCONTROLLABLE AND NOBODY'S THERE TO HELP IN THE COMMUNITY. I MEAN, NOT IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT IN THE BUILDING. THEY'RE IN THE BUILDING. AND I'VE ASKED FOR SECURITY AND THEY SAID, WE CAN'T TELL THEM WHAT TO DO. THEY DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO. SO IF THE MAYOR DOESN'T KNOW OR WHOEVER RUNS IT DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT IT, WE'LL NEVER GET IT FIXED. AND WE'VE TOLD WE'VE CALLED IN, WE'VE GOT PICTURES AND EVERYTHING. SO I'M JUST MAKING SURE YOU GUYS ARE AWARE OF IT. WHEN YOU PUT, YOU KNOW, BUILD A NEW HOUSING FACILITY JUST FOR HOMELESS PEOPLE, IT CHANGES THINGS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SURE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR. I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD THAT WE ARE AWARE THAT THERE HAVE BEEN ISSUES THAT SHE HAD LANDING. I'M NATALIE HARRIS WITH THE COALITION FOR THE HOMELESS. WE ARE WORKING TO SUPPORT THEM. THEIR THEIR BIGGEST ISSUE IS STAFFING AND GETTING UP TO LEVEL ON STAFFING. 
          SO THEY ARE WORKING TO FILL THOSE EMPTY SPOTS. IT'S ALSO REALLY HARD TO HAVE 80 PEOPLE ALL MOVE IN AT THE SAME TIME. SO, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY IS AT THE SAME STATE. INSTEAD OF PEOPLE TURNING OVER AND YOU HAVE ONE PERSON LEAVE THIS WEEK AND A NEW PERSON COMES IN, SO THINGS WILL CALM DOWN. THEY DO HAVE SECURITY ON SITE, BUT WHAT WE FEEL LIKE THEY REALLY NEED IS MORE ACTIVITIES FOR PEOPLE TO DO SO THAT THERE IS A REASON TO STAY THERE ON SITE. SO I DO 
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UNDERSTAND THAT THE CONCERN IS THAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING TO DO DURING THE DAY. 
          AND SO THAT IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS GET MORE FOR PEOPLE TO DO DURING THE DAY. RIGHT? I AND I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT WHEN THEY PUT THOSE PLACES TOGETHER, THEY ALREADY HAVE A PLAN. AND, YOU KNOW, WE OFTEN PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER AND WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN OR WHATEVER. AND THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO. THEY JUST OUT THERE AND THEY DOING A LOT OF THINGS THAT'S AGAINST THE LAW. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE Y'ALL KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DO WE HAVE ANY MORE COMMENTS, QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING? OH I'M SORRY. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. CAN WE CAN WE HAVE A DESCRIPTION, PLEASE, OF SOME OF THE IMPORTANT SUPPORTIVE SOCIAL SERVICES THAT GO INTO PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AT PLACES LIKE SHEEHAN LANDING? YES, AGAIN, NATALIE HARRIS WITH THE COALITION FOR THE HOMELESS. SO ANYBODY WHO IS IN A PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROGRAM WILL HAVE CASE MANAGEMENT, WHICH IS THE THE KEY AND AND UNIVERSAL TO EVERYONE. BUT EACH PERSON'S CASE PLAN IS SPECIFIC TO THEIR PARTICULAR NEEDS. SO IF A PERSON HAS A CHEMICAL DEPENDENCY ISSUE THEY NEED TO DEAL WITH, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD BE WORKING WITH, WITH COMMUNITY PROVIDERS. IF THEY DON'T HAVE THAT ISSUE, THEN WE WOULDN'T FORCE THEM TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT KIND OF ACTIVITY. IF THEY HAVE HEALTH ISSUES, WHICH OFTEN HAPPENS WHEN SOMEBODY FIRST MOVES INTO PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, THEY HAVE NOT DEALT WITH THEIR HEALTH ISSUES FOR YEARS, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY GO TO THE DOCTOR AND REALIZE, I HAVE DIABETES, I HAVE THIS, I HAVE THAT. ALL OF THOSE THINGS HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED ALL AT THE SAME TIME. 
          SO ACTUALLY, THEIR HEALTH COSTS GO UP AT FIRST AND THEN OF FINALLY GO DOWN. ALSO, PEOPLE WHO HAVE A BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED, THEIR MEDICATION ADJUSTMENT. AND THAT AGAIN, CAN BE VERY UNSTABLE AT FIRST AS YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT AND THEN FINALLY STABLES OFF AS YOU'RE DEALING WITH A BEHAVIORAL HEALTH PROVIDER. SO IT IS VERY DIFFERENT FOR DIFFERENT PEOPLE. ALSO, SOME PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE WITH A CHEMICAL DEPENDENCY ISSUE, WILL BE ABLE TO WORK AT SOME POINT. AND SO ONCE THEY'RE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE, WOULD BE WORKING WITH THEIR CASE MANAGER ON EMPLOYMENT, GETTING TO GOODWILL OR KENTUCKY, AND WORKS TO WORK ON THOSE KINDS OF ISSUES. AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MOVE TOWARDS SCATTERED SITES, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE STRUCTURAL BARRIERS THAT WE HAVE AS A CITY THAT'S KIND OF HOLDING US BACK FROM THE ABILITY TO IMPLEMENT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF STRUCTURAL, SCATTERED SITE PLANS. SO THE MAJORITY OF PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING IN LOUISVILLE IS SCATTERED SITE. THAT IS WHERE WE HAVE PUT MOST OF THE RESOURCES OVER TIME. THERE ARE SOME SMALL PROJECTS THAT WELLSPRING HAS OPERATED FOR YEARS. AND THEN DURING COVID THERE WERE RESOURCES PUT INTO FOUR DIFFERENT PROJECTS WHICH ARE LARGER IN THE COMMUNITY. SHEEHAN LANDING IS THE LARGEST, SO IT IS THE MOST DIFFICULT. SOME OF THE OTHERS, MONARCH STATION IS MIXED INCOME, SO THERE ARE 20 UNITS THAT WILL BE THERE THAT ARE PEOPLE WHO WERE FORMERLY HOMELESS, BUT THE OTHERS ARE NOT. CHANCERY IS ALL A SINGLE SITE, PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. AND I'M TRYING TO THINK OF AND KEY. A RED KEY LANDING IS ALSO A MIXED. AND THE OTHER ISSUE WITH IT IS THAT PEOPLE WERE ALREADY STABILIZED IN VARIOUS PROGRAMS THERE AND THEN MOVED INTO THE SINGLE PROGRAM. OKAY. THANK YOU. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANY ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? OKAY. ONE MORE QUESTION, MR. CHAIR. 
          I'M STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW YOU ASSESS THESE PEOPLE. I KNOW WHEN YOU GO TO PRISON, THEY HAVE TO ASSESS WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO PUT THESE PEOPLE. THEY DON'T PUT MURDERERS WITH, YOU KNOW, OTHER TYPE OF PEOPLE. HOW DO YOU KNOW WHO YOU'RE SENDING TO SHEEHAN LANDING AND THE REST TO KEEP PEOPLE THAT ARE SAFE, THAT ARE THERE, THAT, YOU KNOW, BELONG TO BE THERE? HOW DO YOU KEEP THEM SAFE? HOW ARE YOU ASSESSING THESE PEOPLE? DO WE HAVE THE ADMINISTRATIVE DO WE HAVE THE THE DOCTORS THAT ARE ASSESSING THESE PEOPLE? SO FAMILY HEALTH CENTERS DOES THE COMMON ASSESSMENT AND ANY PERSON WHO IS UNHOUSED IN THE COMMUNITY CAN GET THAT ASSESSMENT AT ANY TIME. THERE YOU IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE RANKED 1 TO 100, BUT YOU GET A SCORE. AND THAT SCORE HAS TO DO LITERALLY WITH HOW LIKELY YOU 
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ARE TO DIE ON THE STREETS. SO PEOPLE WHO ARE SENIORS, PEOPLE WHO HAVE MAJOR HEALTH ISSUES, PEOPLE WHO ARE YOUNG OR HAVE CHILDREN WOULD GET A HIGHER SCORE THAN PEOPLE WHO ARE MORE ABLE BODIED AND HEALTHY. THE THEN AS OPENINGS COME UP, PEOPLE ARE ASSIGNED TO THOSE OPENINGS BASED ON THAT NEED. ALSO, I WILL SAY SHANNON LENDING WAS DEVELOPED SPECIFICALLY TO SERVE PEOPLE WHO HAD BEEN UNSUCCESSFUL IN SCATTERED SITE HOUSING. SO IN SCATTERED SITE HOUSING, YOU PROBABLY SEE YOUR CASE MANAGER LESS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ON SITE. THEY COME TO VISIT YOU IN YOUR APARTMENT ON A REGULAR BASIS. SO SOME PEOPLE NEEDED MORE SUPPORT THAN THAT. AND THAT IS WHY YOU MIGHT SEE PEOPLE IN A SINGLE SITE WHO HAVE HIGHER LEVEL NEEDS, BECAUSE YOU'RE TRYING TO GET THEM SOMEPLACE WHERE THERE IS SOMEBODY THERE 24 HOURS A DAY WHO CAN HELP YOU. IF YOU, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME ISSUE THAT YOU NEED HELP WITH. OKAY. THANK YOU. NOT MY ONLY CONCERN IS THEY NEED MORE SECURITY OR WHATEVER OVER THERE WAS THERE FIGHTING AND DOING, TRYING TO ROB PEOPLE. IT'S JUST I MEAN, IT'S 80 MEN OVER THERE AND IT'S JUST TOO MUCH. I GET CALLS EVERY DAY AND I HAD THE POLICE GO IN. SO I GUESS WHEN YOU PUT ALL OF THEM THAT NEED MORE HELP IN ONE SPOT, THAT CREATES A PROBLEM. MAYBE YOU SHOULD MIX THEM UP WHERE IT WOULDN'T BE. ALL OF THEM HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, THEIR NEEDS ARE NOT THE SAME, SO IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO THANK YOU. AND I'M NOT TRYING TO DISCOURAGE ANYTHING. I'M JUST TELLING YOU, MAKING SURE YOU KNOW, THE ISSUES THAT ARE GOING ON. AND MAYBE WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT DIFFERENTLY AND YOU KNOW, JUST MIX IT UP WHERE ONES THAT NEED A LOT OF A LOT OF HELP, DON'T PUT THEM ALL IN ONE SPOT. AND THAT'S WHAT HAS HAPPENED, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S GOING TO GET HURT BAD OR THEY'RE OVER THERE. SO THANK YOU. AND I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS COMING. IF NO ONE HAS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, IF NOT CONCERNS FOR YOU. OKAY. OVER THERE. SO ANYWAY, WE'RE NOT FINISHED BECAUSE WE HAVE ANOTHER SOME MORE LEGISLATION. SO IF YOU WANT TO COME ON UP. BUT I'M ELECTION. YOU GUYS ARE FINISHED. ARE YOU GUYS FINISHED? OKAY. YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN FIRST, BUT YOU DIDN'T MAKE IT IN TIME. 
          I APOLOGIZE FOR MY TARDINESS. OKAY, LET'S LET'S GO AHEAD AND READ IT. ITEM TWO, A RESOLUTION 
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 R-040-26     A RESOLUTION HONORING MR. FRED T. STONER, SR. BY NAMING THE CORNER OF ROSELANE STREET AND SOUTH HANCOCK STREET AS “FRED T. STONER, SR. WAY” IN HIS HONOR.
Action Required By:  October 23, 2026
Sponsors: Ken Herndon (D-4)
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HONORING MR. FRED T STONER SENIOR BY NAMING THE CORNER OF ROSALIE LANE STREET AND SOUTH HANCOCK STREET AS FRED T STONER SENIOR WAY IN HIS HONOR. READ IN FULL. OKAY, OKAY, OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. YOU WANT TO DISCUSS IT? YES, SIR. MY NAME IS TYLER BASS. I'M A LEGISLATIVE AIDE TO COUNCILMAN KEN HARDEN OF DISTRICT FOUR. MR. FRITZ STONER IS A FILLER. 
          WHAT WAS A PILLAR IN THE SMOKETOWN COMMUNITY? SO WE RECEIVED THE REQUEST FOR HIM TO GET AN HONORARY STREET SIGN AS WHO HE IS. HE WAS HE WAS A MENTOR TO COUNTLESS YOUTHS OVER THE YEARS. HE ALSO AIDED AND TAUGHT MUHAMMAD ALI THE FOUNDATIONS OF BOXING DURING HIS FORMATIVE YEARS, AS WELL AS HE ALREADY HAS A BUILDING IN HIS NAME, THE FRED ANNEX BUILDING. SO WE JUST FELT, SINCE WE RECEIVED A REQUEST TO GO AHEAD AND ALSO PUT AN HONORARY STREET SIGN IN HIS HONOR. OKAY, ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? HEARING NONE, WE'RE READY TO VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY, THEN WE WILL. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE WILL SEND IT TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. OKAY. AND WITHOUT. WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE LEGISLATION OR 
          [Adjournment
Note: Agendas are followed at the discretion of the Chair. While an item may be listed, it does not mean all items will be heard and/or acted upon by the Committee.]
ANYTHING, SO WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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