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SO WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM YET. COUNCILMAN BENSON, I SAID WE WERE GOING TO TAKE YOU FIRST, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM YET, SO WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT ON THAT. SO ITEM NUMBER ONE, D 20 5-0146.[1. ID 25-0146 GUARDRAILS – Tony Harrod, Kentucky Transportation Cabinet District 5]
AND DISCUSSION ON GUARDRAILS. WE HAVE TONI HERROD TO TALK ABOUT THAT. I BELIEVE SO WE'RE GOING TO I KNOW I SAID WE WERE GOING TO GO IN A DIFFERENT ORDER, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM. SO WE CAN'T DO THE CAN'T DO THE ORDINANCE. SORRY ABOUT THAT. SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION. SO IF YOU JUST INTRODUCE YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD AND THEN YOU HAVE THE[00:25:13]
FLOOR, SIR. MY NAME IS TONY HERROD AND I WORK FOR KYTC. MY NAME IS SARAH HENRY. I ALSO WORK FOR KYTC. SO WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY. WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO COME DOWN HERE AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT OUR GUARDRAIL MAINTENANCE PROGRAM. OKAY. IT'S NOT ADVANCING FOR SOME REASON.THANK YOU. SO JUST JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND, DISTRICT FIVE, THE LOUISVILLE AREA IS MADE UP OF EIGHT COUNTIES. AND YOU CAN SEE THEM THERE ON THE SCREEN. AND SO WE MAINTAIN ALL THE GUARDRAIL ON THE STATE ROUTES IN THOSE EIGHT COUNTIES WHICH WHICH IS A LOT.
AND KYTC UNDER A MASTER AGREEMENT WITH EDEN FENCE COMPANY. THEY'RE BASED OUT OF THEIR MAIN OFFICES IN LITCHFIELD NOW. THEY MOVED THEY WERE IN OWENSBORO, BUT THEY'RE IN LITCHFIELD NOW, AND THEY MAINTAIN ALL THE GUARDRAIL IN THESE EIGHT COUNTIES FOR KYTC.
FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO GO OVER JUST AND I'M SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT SINGLE PHASE GUARDRAIL LOOKS LIKE. AND WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT GUARDRAIL THAT'S THAT HASN'T BEEN DAMAGED AND SOME DAMAGED AREA. SO BUT ANYWAY US FOR 21 AND HENRY COUNTY THIS IS JUST A PICTURE OF A SIMPLE SINGLE FACE GUARDRAIL. THIS IS WHAT WE CALL A RADIUS RAIL WHEN IT TURNS BACK INTO A SIDE STREET OR, YOU KNOW, COMES OFF A RAMP OFF AN INTERSTATE OR WHATEVER. IF THAT GETS DAMAGED, WE WE REFER TO THAT AS A RADIUS RAIL. STARTING WITH THE DIFFERENT TREATMENTS.
THAT'S A TYPE ONE ON THE LEFT THAT OBVIOUSLY IS IN GOOD SHAPE. THE ONE ON THE RIGHT HAS BEEN HIT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE LOOK FOR TO REPAIR. THAT THAT SAME THING TYPE ONE. AND THEN THAT'S THAT'S THE ONE THAT THAT'S AFTER IT WAS HIT I BELIEVE A SEMI HIT THAT ONE. ANOTHER TYPE ONE. THE REASON I'M SHOWING YOU THE ONE ON THE RIGHT IS THAT'S A TYPE ONE TREATMENT. AND TRAVELING DOWN THE ROAD YOU MAY YOU MAY SAY THAT GUARDRAIL IS OKAY, BUT THAT GUARDRAIL HAS BEEN BUMPED. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT THAT RAIL HAS RETRACTED THROUGH THAT HEAD AND COME OUT THE BACKSIDE. SO THAT WARRANTS A REPAIR, JUST LIKE THE ONE THAT WE SAW BEFORE.
THAT'S WHAT WE CALL TWO A THAT'S THE TRAILING END OF A GUARDRAIL. THAT HAS JUST RECENTLY BEEN REPLACED WITH WHAT WE CALL A2M. AND I THINK ABOUT THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT IT HAS A STRUT BETWEEN THE LAST TWO POSTS FOR ADDITIONAL SUPPORT, BUT THAT TWO A WILL THEN BECOME A2M WHEN WHEN IT'S HIT. OKAY SHE'S ON. THAT'S OUR TYPE THREE N TREATMENT. THAT N TREATMENT RUNS BACK INTO THE EARTH, RUNS BACK INTO THE BANK THERE. AND THAT'S WHAT WE CALL TYPE THREE. THAT ONE'S IN PARTICULAR ONE'S IN SHELBY COUNTY. THAT'S A4A. AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN TELL BY THAT PICTURE, BUT THE FOUR A KIND OF FLARES OFF THE ROAD SOME THE TYPE ONE RUNS PARALLEL TO THE ROAD AND AND STAYS THE SAME DISTANCE FROM THE EDGE OF PAVEMENT. HOWEVER, THE FOUR A FLARES OFF ABOUT FOUR FEET OR SO. AND AND YOU CAN PUT THOSE IN WHEN YOU HAVE EARTH TO DO THAT WITH AND GET THAT HEAD HEAD PIECE AWAY FROM THE TRAVELING PUBLIC. THIS TYPE SEVEN, THEY'RE KIND OF OBSOLETE ON THE STATE HIGHWAYS, EVEN ON OUR LOW VOLUME ROADS. NOW, THAT'S WHAT THEY USED TO CALL THE OLD TEXAS TWIST. AND YOU ALL MIGHT HAVE SOME OF THESE TYPE SEVENS ON YOUR ON YOUR BACK ROADS. BUT THAT'S THAT'S TYPE SEVEN TREATMENT. THAT IS A TYPE NINE. SO YOU'LL SEE THAT A LOT OF TIMES IN THE MEDIAN ON A ON AN INTERSTATE. AND THAT THAT USUALLY PROTECTS BRIDGE PIERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT
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THAT'S A TYPE NINE. SO GOING ON TO OUR OUR HITS, THAT'S WHAT WE CALL AN INLAND HIT. SO THAT THAT ONE'S ON 64 THERE AROUND THE 12 MILE MARKER AROUND THE WATERSON. BUT THAT IS AN INLINE HIT THAT DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED. YOU CAN SEE HOW IT'S HIT THE RAIL AND THE POSTER BROKE AWAY. SO IT'S IT'S DAMAGED THAT. THAT'S WHAT WE REFER TO AS A PUNCH THROUGH.THAT ONE'S ON 64 EASTBOUND RIGHT THERE WHERE THE RAILROAD TRACKS GO OVER THE INTERSTATE THERE, JUST EAST OF MILLWOOD, AND YOU CAN TELL THAT SOMEBODY'S PUNCHED ALL THE WAY THROUGH THAT RAIL AND THAT DEFINITELY THAT DEFINITELY NEEDS FIXED. SO HOW WE FIND OUT ABOUT THESE GUARDRAIL HITS. SO A LOT OF TIMES LAW ENFORCEMENT WILL CONTACT US IF THEY WORK A WORK AN ACCIDENT ON THE INTERSTATE. THEY'LL NOTIFY US THAT A GUARDRAIL GUARDRAIL DAMAGE WAS INVOLVED. AND THEY'LL NOTIFY OUR DISTRICT OFFICE. AND THEN IT'LL IT'LL TRICKLE TO ME THAT IT NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED. CRASH REPORTS WHICH. SARAH ACTUALLY MONITORS THOSE. AND WE'LL GET INTO THAT IN HER HER ROLE IN THIS A LITTLE BIT LATER. METRO 311. SO METRO SAFE, THEY'LL CONTACT US AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THEIR OFFICER WAS OUT ON A WRECK AND IT DID DAMAGE THE GUARDRAIL. AND YOU MIGHT WANT TO GO BACK THERE AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
WE'VE GOT AN OPERATIONS CENTER LOCATED IN FRANKFORT, AND A LOT OF TIMES THE TRAVELING PUBLIC MAY REPORT A GUARDRAIL AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHO TO CALL. AND AND THEY COME UP WITH THAT NUMBER, THE OPERATIONS CENTER. AND THEN THE OPERATIONS CENTER WILL CONTACT US OR WHATEVER DISTRICT IT APPLIES TO OF WHERE THE DAMAGE IS. AND THEN JUST, JUST YOUR AVERAGE CITIZEN MIGHT BE GOING DOWN THE ROAD AND, AND SEE THAT SOMETHING'S BEEN HIT AND CALL, CALL EITHER THE OPERATIONS CENTER OR CALL THE POLICE, OR THEY MIGHT EVEN COME UP WITH THE NUMBER TO OUR DISTRICT OFFICE THERE ON WESTPORT ROAD. AND THEY'LL THEY'LL GET THE WORD TO US THAT SOMETHING'S BEEN HIT. LOUISVILLE METRO EMPLOYEES AND KYTC EMPLOYEES. YOU KNOW, WE'VE WE'VE GOTTEN CALLS FROM LOUISVILLE METRO PUBLIC WORKS THAT SAY, HEY, I WAS, YOU KNOW, TRAVELING TODAY AND AND SAW GUARDRAIL HIT ON YOUR ROAD AND THEY'LL NOTIFY US AS WELL. AND THEN KYTC EMPLOYEES. SO EARLIER I SAID THAT THE DISTRICT FIVE WAS MADE UP OF EIGHT COUNTIES.
THEY'VE EACH GOT SUPERINTENDENTS IN THOSE COUNTIES, A SUPERINTENDENT ONE AND TWO. AND I GUESS WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS TOGETHER FOR ABOUT THE LAST NINE YEARS. AND THEY CALL US IF THERE'S A BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO SEE A BACK ROAD IN SPENCER COUNTY THAT'S GOT A GUARDRAIL HIT. SO WE RELY ON THE SUPERINTENDENTS AND IN THE COUNTIES THAT THEY'RE OVER TO NOTIFY US OF, OF ANY GUARDRAIL HITS IN THEIR AREA. SO I THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S PRETTY IMPORTANT WHEN YOU'RE ADMINISTERING A GUARDRAIL PROGRAM IS FOR ONE PERSON TO BE THE POINT OF CONTACT. NOW, YOU CAN HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE REPORT THAT REPORT THAT DAMAGE THE SUPERINTENDENTS OR EVEN THE EMPLOYEES. YOU KNOW, ANYBODY CAN REPORT IT, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT NEEDS TO FUNNEL DOWN TO ONE PERSON THAT'S GOING TO DEAL DIRECTLY WITH THE CONTRACTOR. JUST SO HE'S NOT GETTING SEVERAL PEOPLE CALLING HIM ABOUT THE SAME ONE. SO IT NEEDS TO FUNNEL DOWN TO TO ONE PERSON. THAT ONE PERSON IS ME. SO WHEN I GET NOTIFIED ABOUT A GUARDRAIL THAT'S BEEN HIT, A LOT OF TIMES I'LL RECEIVE A PICTURE. AND IT'S PRETTY EVIDENT THAT, YEAH, THAT NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED. BUT IF SOMEBODY JUST CALLS ME AND SAYS, HEY, I WAS ON THE WATTERSON AT 65 AND I SAW GUARDRAIL HIT, THEN I GO OUT AND REVIEW EVERY ONE OF THEM, AND I TAKE A PICTURE OF THAT, AND I SEND IT TO TO SARAH, AND THEN I SEND IT TO OUR GUARDRAIL CONTRACTOR. AND WHEN I SEND IT TO SARAH, THAT PUTS HER ON ALERT THAT THERE'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE AN ACCIDENT REPORT COME THROUGH THAT'S GOING TO LINK LINK THAT ACCIDENT REPORT BACK TO THAT LOCATION, BECAUSE MORE THAN LIKELY, THE POLICE HAVE WORKED TO WRECK THERE. I ALSO SEND IT DIRECTLY TO EDEN FENCE AND I SEND IT TO THEIR SUPERINTENDENT, BO HENSLEY, THAT RUNS THE GUARDRAIL CREW IN THIS AREA AND AND TAKES CARE OF DISTRICT FIVE.
NOW THE GOOD NEWS ABOUT ABOUT THAT IS LOUISVILLE METRO PUBLIC WORKS ALSO HAS EDEN FENCE AS THEIR GUARDRAIL CONTRACTOR. SO WE'VE DEVELOPED A A REALLY GOOD SYSTEM AND IT GUARDRAILS ARE
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REPAIRED VERY RAPIDLY WHEN YOU SEND HIM THAT PICTURE. SO I SEND THAT TO BO AND THEN THAT PUTS HIM ON ALERT THAT, HEY WE'VE GOT A GUARDRAIL DAMAGE AND IT GIVES HIM THE GREEN LIGHT TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE THAT REPAIR. SO BO AND HIS CREW, THEY THEY GET THESE PICTURES FROM ME AND AND A LOT OF TIMES THEY'LL SEE IT TOO. YOU KNOW, IT THEY IT JUST DOESN'T HAVE TO COME FROM ME. THEY COULD SEE IT IN THEIR TRAVELS OR SOMEBODY COULD CALL THEM ABOUT IT. BUT AFTER THEY MAKE THE REPAIR, HE ACTUALLY WRITES THAT WORK ORDER DOWN ON A PIECE OF NOTEBOOK PAPER. AND HE HE, AFTER 2 TO 3 WEEKS OF, OF REPAIRING THOSE, THOSE HITS, HE WILL CALL ME AND SAYS HE CALLS IT A LIST. I'VE GOT A LIST FOR YOU. SO AFTER I MEET UP WITH HIM, I CREATE A WORK ORDER FROM HIS, FROM HIS NOTES. AND THEN AFTER I WRITE UP THE WORK ORDER, THERE ARE SOME BID ITEM SHEETS THAT I ATTACH TO THAT WORK ORDER. SO. AFTER AFTER I ATTACH THE BID ITEM SHEETS TO THAT WORK ORDER AND PUT ALL THAT TOGETHER, WE KEEP A TRACKING SPREADSHEET SO I. MR. YES, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LAND THE PLANE PRETTY SOON. OKAY. I THINK YOU SAID YOU HAD ABOUT A 15 MINUTE PRESENTATION. HOW LONG HAVE I BEEN? WE'RE COMING IN ON 15, AND I KNOW YOU PROBABLY GOT SOME QUESTIONS. SO IF YOU COULD JUST WRAP UP. SO THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, I GIVE ALL THAT BACK. AND THAT'S HOW AN INVOICE IS GENERATED FOR US TO PAY THE BILL. BUT THAT THAT'S KIND OF THE PROCESS. SO THAT'S JUST ANOTHER PICTURE OF OF A DAMAGED RAIL THERE ON HURSTBOURNE. THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A CRASH THAT HAPPENED FAIRLY RECENTLY IN HOW WE HANDLED IT.SO HERE'S WHERE TONY WENT OUT AND REVIEWED THE AREA AND FOUND THAT CLEARLY DAMAGE WAS MADE.
OKAY. SO THAT THAT IS OUR GUARDRAIL WORK ORDER THAT I WRITE UP. THAT'S JUST A COPY OF A BLANK ONE THERE. SO THAT IS AN INVOICE THAT WE RECEIVE FOR. SO EACH ONE OF THOSE HITS HAS ITS OWN INDIVIDUAL INVOICE. SO IT'S IT'S AN ITEMIZED REPAIR OKAY. THAT'S JUST A COPY OF THE TRACKING SPREADSHEET. AND THAT WE JUST DOCUMENT WHERE ALL THOSE HITS ARE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. IF YOU'LL NOTICE THIS IS HIT NUMBER 148 IN JEFFERSON COUNTY. AND THAT WAS ONLY IN JULY. SO BY JULY WE HAD FIXED CLOSE TO 150 HITS IN JEFFERSON COUNTY. SO TYPICALLY WE'RE ON WE'RE ON SCHEDULE PROBABLY TO FIX ABOUT 300 GUARDRAIL HITS IN JEFFERSON COUNTY EACH YEAR. SO JUST WANT TO GIVE A QUICK TIPS. THE LONGER THE GUARDRAIL IS OUT THERE, THE MORE OF A LIABILITY IT IS. SO DON'T WAIT TO FIX THOSE THINGS, BECAUSE IF YOU DO AND SOMEBODY HITS A DAMAGED RAIL AND AND GETS KILLED, THEN THEN THAT'S A PROBLEM. SO AS SOON AS YOU IDENTIFY THAT RAIL, IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED AND WORRY ABOUT THE PAPERWORK LATER. MAKE SURE THAT YOU DON'T TRY TO FIX THESE THINGS IN HOUSE. THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. PUT THE LIABILITY ON THE CONTRACTOR THAT YOU GOT THERE. THE PROFESSIONALS, THEY DO IT EACH AND EVERY DAY. AND I THINK I ALLUDE TO THE FACT DON'T WAIT. DON'T WAIT ON THE PAPERWORK. JUST GIVE HIM THE GREEN LIGHT TO FIX IT. IT'S GOTTA BE FIXED ANYWAY. AND AND DON'T WAIT ON THE PAPERWORK BECAUSE THAT THAT MEANS IT'S IT'S A DELAY IN THE REPAIR. AND LIKE I SAID, JUST WHOEVER YOU APPOINT TO DO THAT, JUST JUST MAKE SURE IT TRICKLES DOWN TO ONE PERSON. SO YOU'RE PROBABLY WONDERING HOW LEGAL GETS INVOLVED WITH THIS. BUT WE HAVE A COLLECTIONS PROGRAM THAT'S BASED IN FRANKFORT AND WE DO EVERYTHING IN HOUSE. THERE'S ONLY SEVEN OF US ACROSS THE STATE THAT ARE COLLECTING ON DAMAGED ASSETS. SO WE'RE SMALL, BUT WE'RE VERY MIGHTY. SO AS TONY SAID, I GO THROUGH ALL OF THE CRASH REPORTS FILED IN DISTRICT EIGHT. THAT'S A LOT OF CRASH REPORTS, BUT I AM LOOKING AT EACH ONE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS NO MENTION OF DAMAGE TO ONE OF OUR ASSETS.
WE COLLECT ON GUARDRAIL, CABLE BARRIERS, ROAD SIGNS, TRAFFIC SIGNAL EQUIPMENT, LIGHT POLES, BRIDGES, CONCRETE BARRIERS, AND SOMETIMES LABOR AND EQUIPMENT. IF WE HAVE TO SEND A CREW OUT TO WORK A WRECK SCENE. SO WHAT I WILL DO IS I WILL MATCH THE REPAIRS TONY MAKES TO THE CRASH REPORTS I FIND, AND I WILL CREATE A COST BREAKDOWN. I WILL DOCK IT EVERYTHING, MAKE A FILE AND THEN I WILL SEEK REIMBURSEMENT. IF A VEHICLE IS INSURED, WE GO THROUGH THE
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INSURANCE. THAT'S THE BEST WAY. IF THERE IS NO INSURANCE, THEN WE WILL BILL THE OWNER AND OR THE DRIVER DIRECTLY. WE HAVE A STATUTE THAT ALLOWS US TO DO THAT. AND WHAT IS UP FOR SUSPENSION IS POSSIBLY THEIR DRIVER'S LICENSE OR THEIR MOTOR CARRIER LICENSE. THE STATUTE ALLOWS US TO THREATEN THAT. SO GOING BACK TO THAT CRASH THAT WE SHOWED YOU ON 64 EAST TO HURSTBOURNE OR KENTUCKY, 1747, HERE IS THE CRASH REPORT THAT I MATCHED WITH TONY'S REPAIR.HERE'S THE COST BREAKDOWN THAT I CREATED. YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH IT COSTS. $9,659.97. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS IT WAS A SEMI. THEY WERE INSURED THROUGH SENTRY. I PURSUED THEM THROUGH THEIR INSURANCE AND WAS ABLE TO GET REIMBURSEMENT. BUT THEN I RETURNED BACK TO TONY'S SPREADSHEET AND I FINISHED FILLING OUT THE REST OF THE COLUMNS. SO NOW WE KNOW THAT THAT REPAIR HAS BEEN PAID FOR AND NOT TO EVER MATCH ANYTHING ELSE TO IT AGAIN. HERE'S OUR CONTACT INFORMATION. I JUST WANT TO REACH OUT TO LOUISVILLE METRO AND LET YOU KNOW THAT IF YOU NEED ANY HELP WITH THIS PROGRAM, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, PLEASE REACH OUT AND I'LL BE GLAD TO HELP IN ANY WAY. THANK YOU. WE'VE GOT TWO PEOPLE IN THE QUEUE THAT WE'LL WE'LL GET TO, BUT I NEED TO RECOGNIZE WE'VE BEEN JOINED IN CHAMBERS BY COUNCILMAN HERNDON, COUNCILMAN BRATCHER, COUNCILMAN BENSON, AND ONLINE WE HAVE COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL, COUNCILWOMAN PURVIS, AND. COUNCILWOMAN SHAMEKA PARRISH. WRIGHT HAS ASKED FOR AN EXCUSED ABSENCE. I APPRECIATE THE THE OVERVIEW OF THE PROCESS. I'VE HAD NOT A LOT, BUT A FEW INSTANCES WHERE A GUARDRAIL HAS BEEN DAMAGED MULTIPLE TIMES AND THE CREWS COME OUT AND JUST REMOVE THE GUARDRAIL AND DON'T REPLACE IT. THAT THAT SEEMED ODD TO ME. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ON LOUISVILLE METRO ROUTES? WELL, I DON'T KNOW. I, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS A STATE OR IF IT WAS PUBLIC WORKS. SO, SO WE WE TYPICALLY DON'T DO THAT. WE, WE HAVE TO GET APPROVAL FROM, FROM CENTRAL OFFICE TO REMOVE A RAIL. AND WHAT YOU'VE GOTTA REMEMBER IS GUARDRAIL IS PUT UP TO PROTECT THE MOTORIST. AND AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT, A LOT OF PEOPLE CALL AND SAY. PEOPLE RUNNING THROUGH MY FRONT YARD, THEY ALMOST HIT MY HOUSE. AND I'LL GO OUT AND IT'LL BE JUST REALLY FLAT. THE TERRAIN WILL BE FLAT, DOESN'T WARRANT A RAIL. SO, YOU KNOW, I TELL THEM THAT. SO IT'S GOTTA BE THE RAIL HAS GOT TO COVER A HAZARD OR WHAT WE CALL A NON-RECOVERABLE SLOPE. SO IN OTHER WORDS, WE WOULD RATHER FOR YOU TO HIT THAT RAIL. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE PRETTY TRAUMATIC WHEN YOU HIT THAT STEEL RAIL VERSUS. TURN YOUR CAR OVER OR, OR SOMETHING IN THAT AREA THAT'S BEHIND THE GUARDRAIL. YEAH, I'VE HEARD THAT BEFORE. AND SO WE WE NEVER JUST I'M NOT SAYING WE NEVER HAVE, BUT WE TYPICALLY DON'T.
WHEN A GUARDRAIL GETS HIT, WE REPAIR IT. AND IT IT'S USUALLY THERE FOR A REASON. NOW WE HAVE EVALUATED STUFF IN THE PAST, ESPECIALLY IN OUR RURAL COUNTIES. GUARDRAIL KEEPS GETTING HIT. THEY'LL CALL ME AND AND THEY'LL SAY, HEY, IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN REMOVE IT? AND I'LL TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT IT. AND, AND A LOT OF TIMES WE I WON'T SAY A LOT OF TIMES, BUT SEVERAL TIMES WE HAVE REMOVED IT. BUT THAT MEANS SOMETHING HAS CHANGED SINCE THAT RAIL WAS INITIALLY INSTALLED. MAYBE THEY'VE FILLED THEIR YARD IN OR OR FILLED A RAVINE IN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH. I'LL LOOK UP THE THE CASES I'M THINKING OF AND. YEAH. AND GET WITH YOU OFFLINE. OKAY. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN BRATCHER. THANK YOU. CHAIR, REAL QUICK. I KIND OF MISSED YOUR HAD HAVE HAVE A CLOSE FAMILY MEMBER IN THE HOSPITAL. I WAS NOT PAYING ATTENTION. YOU SAID THAT YOU YOU COLLECT FROM LIKE, INSURANCE COMPANIES IF THEY HIT A AND THAT'S MA'AM. THAT'S YOU. THAT WAS YOU. YES. AND YOU SAID YOU'RE MIGHTY MEANING THAT THAT YOU YOU GO LIKE IF I SAY MY CAR HITS A GUARDRAIL, MY INSURANCE IS GOING TO HELP PAY FOR THAT GUARDRAIL. BACK TO RESTORATION. CORRECT. IS THAT FAIR? TYPICALLY YES THEY WOULD. GREAT.
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SO AND YOU WORK FOR BOTH OF YOU. WORK FOR. I WAS LATE TOO. I'M SORRY. AND I WANT TO ASK THIS.WHO DECIDES WHERE A GUARDRAIL GOES? WELL, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT TONY WAS ALLUDING TO. KYTC DOESN'T JUST THROW UP A GUARDRAIL. KYTC HAS SPECIFICATIONS ABOUT WHERE GUARDRAILS CAN GO, AND SO THAT'S WHY WE MAKE SURE THEY'RE PUT IN THE PROPER AREAS, AND NOT TO SATISFY SOMEBODY WHO THINKS IT'S THEY'RE IN AN UNSAFE AREA. SO TONY CAN ALLUDE TO WHAT THOSE SPECS ARE. SO I, I FREQUENTLY GET CALLS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HEY, SOMEBODY ALMOST HIT MY HOUSE AND, AND I'LL GO OUT AND CALL THE PROPERTY OWNER AND SAY IT DOESN'T WANT A RAIL.
HOWEVER, I'VE GONE OUT SEVERAL TIMES TO AND LOOK AT IT AND SAY, WOW, IT IT DOES WANT A RAIL. SO WHEN THAT HAPPENS, I CONTACT CENTRAL OFFICE IN FRANKFORT. THEY SEND ONE OF THEIR FIELD ENGINEERS DOWN. WE BOTH GO LOOK AT IT TOGETHER. AND IF WE AGREE THAT YEAH, THIS NEEDS A RAIL, THEN THERE'S A GUARDRAIL DATABASE THAT IS KEPT IN FRANKFORT AND WE ENTER THAT INFORMATION, THE THE MOUTH, THE LOCATION, MILE POINT ROUTE, WHAT SIDE OF THE ROAD IT'S ON AND ALL THAT, THE LENGTH OF RAIL THAT WE'RE REQUESTING. WE PUT THAT INFORMATION INTO THE DATABASE THEN THAT SITS IN THE DATABASE UNTIL FUNDING BECOMES AVAILABLE TO TO PUT A RAIL IN, AND THEN THEY'LL CALL FOR A DETAILED ESTIMATE. WE'LL PUT THE ESTIMATE TOGETHER AND THEN THEY'LL, THEY'LL LET IT TO, YOU KNOW, PUT IT OUT FOR BID AND AWARD A CONTRACT FOR IT TO BE INSTALLED. NOW THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE MAINTENANCE CONTRACT, BUT IT'S KIND OF A PART OF IT THAT THAT'S A PROJECT. WE'RE GUARDRAILS INSTALLED AND AND YOU KNOW, THE WHAT WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IS THE REPAIR OF EXISTING RAIL. WHO MAKES THE FINAL SAY. YES, IT WILL OR NO, IT WILL NOT. IS THAT YOU AS FAR AS NEW INSTALLATIONS? YEAH. IT IT'LL BE ME AND A REPRESENTATIVE OUT OF CENTRAL OFFICE WILL. AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT AND AND WE'LL DECIDE THAT YES, IT DOES NEED IT OR. NO IT DOESN'T. AND THAT'S FOR STATE AND LOCAL AND COUNTY AND THE WHOLE WORKS. RIGHT. WELL IT'S FOR STATE HIGHWAYS BUT NOT METRO. NOT METRO. WHO MAKES THAT CALL? IS THAT WEST BACK THERE? I'M NOT SURE. GREAT TO SEE YOU, BETH.
LONG TIME FRIEND. OKAY. AND THE I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION AND. MAYBE I'LL. I'LL REMEMBER IT.
MISTER CHAIR, BACK IN THE QUEUE. SO KIND OF KIND OF CIRCLING ON CIRCLING BACK TO WHAT COUNCILMAN BRATCHER WAS TALKING ABOUT. OFTENTIMES WE WE HAVE REQUESTS THAT JUST GET DENIED FOR FOR A GUARDRAIL. AND I UNDERSTAND LET'S SEE IF I CAN GET THIS WORDING RIGHT.
GUARDRAILS ARE NOT PUT UP TO PROTECT PERSONAL PROPERTY, BUT YET GUARDRAILS ARE THERE TO PROTECT AUTOMOBILES WHICH ARE PERSONAL PROPERTY. SO SO BUT IF, IF, IF A CAR HITS A HOUSE, THAT CAR IS GOING TO GET DAMAGED. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, ALMOST ALWAYS OUR REQUESTS FOR GUARDRAILS GET DENIED. YEAH. I MEAN, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, IF IF WE PUT UP A GUARDRAIL TO PROTECT HOUSES, WE PROBABLY HAVE GUARDRAIL FROM ONE END OF THE ROAD TO THE OTHER. WELL, AND I'M NOT I'M NOT ASKING THAT WE PROTECT EVERY HOUSE, BUT IF A CAR. BUT IF A HOUSE HAS BEEN HIT FOUR TIMES, THAT'S A PATTERN, CORRECT? THAT SEEMS LIKE A GUARDRAIL COULD HELP.
YEAH. HELP RESOLVE. JUST SO YOU KNOW, IT'S OUR POLICY THAT THAT WE DON'T PROTECT PERSONAL PROPERTY. IT'S GOTTA BE IT'S GOTTA BE A ROADSIDE HAZARD POLICY. OR IS IT LAW? I'D HAVE TO CHECK. BUT I KNOW THAT'S OUR THAT'S OUR POLICY FOR SURE. AND I'M I'M I'M NOT TRYING TO GET IN AN ARGUMENT HERE, BUT WE'VE GOT A HOUSE ON WEST PAIGE'S LANE. IT'S ON A STRAIGHT PIECE OF ROAD. I'M SURE YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH IT. THE HOUSE HAS BEEN HIT BY A CAR ON FOUR SEPARATE OCCASIONS. THE INSURANCE COMPANY IS REFUSING TO INSURE THE HOUSE ANYMORE BECAUSE IT SAYS YOUR YOUR HOUSE IS GETTING HIT BY CARS TOO OFTEN. WE'RE NOT GOING TO INSURE YOU. SO WEST PAGES IS A METRO ROUTE, SO WE DON'T. YEAH. OKAY. FAIR ENOUGH ON THAT ONE.
YEAH. I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT STATE HIGHWAYS. YEAH. FAIR ENOUGH ON THAT. YEAH.
COUNCILMAN HERNDON THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I'LL FOLLOW UP ON THAT IS YOU'RE PROBABLY AWARE OF THIS HOUSE BROWNSBORO AND STORY. AND THERE'S IS THAT THOSE ARE BOTH STATE ROADS.
CORRECT? THEY ARE. THERE'S THAT THAT THAT SHARP DOGLEG COMING DOWN BROWNSBORO ON THE STORY.
YEAH. THERE'S BEEN A GUARDRAIL THERE FOR 20 WHATEVER. IT'S BEEN HIT MANY TIMES. AND THAT
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THAT RAIL IS TEN FEET FROM THEIR FRONT DOOR. IT WAS JUST IS THAT BEEN FIXED RECENTLY. IT HAS BEEN FIXED RECENTLY. AND AND YOU KNOW THAT'S A PERFECT EXAMPLE. SO THAT RAIL HAS BEEN THERE FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. AND, AND I YOU KNOW, I JUST REPAIR IT WHEN IT GETS HIT. NOW IT'S IT'S NOT WHAT I CALL FREQUENT FLIER, BUT IT, IT DID GET REPAIRED WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS. WELL OKAY. I HAVEN'T SEEN IT I, I LIVED DOWN THE STREET. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO REVERSE THAT. BUT IN THE MEANTIME THOSE TWO HOUSES ARE COMPLETELY VULNERABLE TO THE SAME THING. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT GOT FIXED, AT LEAST TEMPORARILY, TO PROTECT THEM OVER THE WINTER. IT DID.OKAY. DO YOU HAVE A AN AVERAGE TIME OR AVERAGE GOAL OF TURNAROUND FIXES? I REALIZE IT COULD BE DINGS OR WIPEOUTS, BUT DO YOU HAVE TRY TO INTERNALLY? DO YOU HAVE KIND OF A A BEST BEST PRACTICES TO TRY TO GET THAT DONE? WELL, I WOULD SAY AT FIRST IT DEPENDS ON THE SEVERITY OF THE HIT. SURE. THE IN TREATMENTS ARE THE ONES THAT DEFINITELY NEED TO BE REPLACED FIRST, AND MAYBE UP TO A WEEK IS THE LONGEST ON THOSE. YEAH, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, WE'VE BUILT A REALLY GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH EDEN FENCE, AND I WOULD THINK THAT ANY RAIL THAT I SEND HIM, UNLESS HE'S JUST OVERWHELMED WITH STUFF THAT I'VE SENT HIM, IT'S REPAIRED WITHIN A WEEK AND SOMETIMES THE NEXT DAY OR TWO. AND I ASK THAT OUT OF CURIOSITY, NOT CRITICISM. I JUST YEAH, YEAH, WE'RE SARAH AND I ARE PRETTY PASSIONATE ABOUT GETTING THINGS REPAIRED AND AND SO IS THE CONTRACTOR. SO HE HE GETS RIGHT ON IT. IT IT DOESN'T. THE ONLY REASON IT WOULD STAY DAMAGED IS, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD SNOW AND HE COULDN'T, HE COULDN'T GET OUT AND WORK AND HE, YOU KNOW, WAS NOT NOT THERE FOR A FEW DAYS. AND THEN HE'S GOT TO PLAY CATCH UP. BUT ON A NORMAL, UNDER NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES, HE, HE REPAIRS THAT WITHIN JUST A FEW DAYS.
SURE. YEAH. JUST FOR CONTEXT, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MANY MILES OF GUARDRAILS YOU HAVE IN JEFFERSON COUNTY? JUST SO. SO WE, YOU AND THE PUBLIC WOULD KNOW HOW MUCH THAT IS TO KEEP UP. SO WE WE DON'T HAVE AN INVENTORY OF LINEAL FEET OF GUARDRAIL. WE HAD TALKED ABOUT DOING THAT AT ONE TIME, BUT THAT WOULD BE A PRETTY MAJOR UNDERTAKING FOR. WELL, I YOU DON'T HAVE I JUST WONDER IF YOU JUST HAD A BALLPARK. I DON'T ENVY THE TASK OF SAYING THAT. I CAN JUST TELL YOU THAT EDEN FENCE DOES ABOUT $2.5 MILLION WORTH OF GUARDRAIL REPAIR AND CABLE BARRIER REPAIR IN DISTRICT FIVE, AND SARAH RECOUPS ABOUT HALF OF THAT FROM INSURANCE COMPANIES. SO I KNOW, I KNOW, THE PUBLIC DOESN'T OFTEN THINK ABOUT HOW MUCH HOW MANY DETAILS THERE ARE IN. AND I'M TRYING TO PROVIDE OUR NEW DIRECTOR WITH A SOFT LANDING SO THEY UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH HE YOU AND HE HAS TO KEEP UP WITH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU BOTH. YEAH.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN BRATCHER. REAL QUICK, I GUESS THAT MY QUESTION IS, LIKE THE CHAIRMAN SAID IT. WELL, IF YOU PUT UP A OF A HOUSE IS GETTING HIT, BLAH, BLAH, OR WHATEVER, FILL IN THE BLANK. WHAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH PUTTING IT UP? I MEAN, ONCE IT STANDS THERE, IT'S THERE FOR IT'S IT'S ONE TIME COST, RIGHT? WELL, THE THING ABOUT IT IS, IS IF YOU PUT UP A, YOU KNOW, OUR POLICY IS IF YOU PUT UP A GUARDRAIL AND SOMEBODY HITS THAT GUARDRAIL AND GETS KILLED, THE FIRST THING WE'RE KIND OF GOING AGAINST WHAT WHAT WE BELIEVE IF THERE'S NO ROADSIDE HAZARD BEHIND IT, WHICH WE DON'T VIEW A HOUSE AS A ROADSIDE HAZARD. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT HITTING A BRICK HOUSE, BUT LIKE I SAID, THE THE HAZARD BEHIND THAT RAIL HAS TO BE WHAT WE CALL A NON-RECOVERABLE SLOPE. SO IF WE PUT UP A GUARDRAIL WHERE THERE'S NO HAZARD BEHIND THE RAIL AND SOMEBODY HITS THAT RAIL A GET KLED,HEY'RE GOING TO SAY, WELL, WHY DI'T LTWELL, YOU CAN'T BE SUED ANYWAY, RIGHT? I MEAN, IF IF WE HAD A RAIL UP WHERE IT DIDN'T BELONG AND SOMEBODY HIT THE RAIL, I THINK. YEAH, I, I THINK, I THINK WE COULD BE SUED FOR THAT. AND I WOULD SAY IF, IF THERE'S AN AREA THAT THERE'S A CONSTANT HIT TO PRIVATE PROPERTY, YOU MAY WANT TO LOOK AT THE CRASH DATA TO SEE WHY THOSE CRASHES ARE OCCURRING, WHAT WERE THE FACTORS THAT LED TO IT. AND THAT MIGHT HELP MAKE SOME DECISIONS ABOUT, SHOULD THERE BE PERHAPS A CHANGE TO THE ROADWAY, OR PERHAPS MAYBE SOME EXTRA LIGHTING? THERE ARE SOMETIMES OUTSIDE FACTORS THAT CAUSE A CRASH THAT A GUARDRAIL WOULD NEVER PREVENT FROM HAPPENING. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WELL, THANK YOU FOR COMING.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET MOVING HERE. WANT TO CATCH THE
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ORDINANCE NEXT. MAKE SURE WE GET THAT DONE I'M SORRY. RESOLUTION ITEM NUMBER 3R-15525.[3. R-155-25 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO ACCEPT UP TO $750,000 FROM THE COMMONWEALTH OF KENTUCKY’S TRANSPORTATION CABINET FOR THE PLANTSIDE DRIVE EXTENSION PROJECT TO BE ADMINISTERED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS AND ASSETS. Action Required By: June 4, 2026 Sponsors: Stuart Benson (R-20) ]
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO ACCEPT UP TO $750,000 FROM THE COMMONWEALTH OF KENTUCKY TRANSPORTATION CABINET FOR THE PLANT SIDE DRIVE EXTENSION PROJECT, TO BE ADMINISTERED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS AND ASSETS. CHAIR RECOGNIZES COUNCILMAN BENSON. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, WE BUILT A BRIDGE OVER THE TYLER CENTER BEHIND SAINT MICHAEL'S CHURCH AND DEVELOPER HOLLENBECK OAKLEY. OH. NEED A MOTION? SORRY.MOTION. WE HAVE PROPERLY FORMATTED MOTION BEFORE US. SORRY. GO AHEAD. AND HOLLENBECK OAKLEY IS THE ONE THAT DEVELOPED IN THAT AREA. AND THIS IS REALLY AN IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, IN J-TOWN YEARS AGO, THEY BUILT AN INDUSTRIAL PARK. AND IT'S REALLY BEEN AN IMPORTANT THING FOR OUR COMMUNITY. I MEAN, THERE'S ABOUT 50,000 PEOPLE WHO WORK THERE, BUT ALL THE ROADS ARE THE SAME AS THEY HAVE BEEN AND WE'VE REALLY NOT IMPROVED. SO THIS, THIS, THIS IS AN EXTENSION OF PLAN SIDE DRIVE, I BELIEVE, FROM, FROM RAILROAD TO, TO THE BRIDGE, ALL THE RIGHT OF WAYS AND, AND, AND THE DRAWINGS HAVE BEEN MADE. WE DON'T HAVE SOME OF THE RIGHT OF WAYS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BRIDGE THAT'S GOING TO TAYLORSVILLE ROAD. AND I THINK THIS IS PART OF THE MONEY THAT'S GOING TO HELP US. THE 75,000 $750,000.
BUT BILL BELL KNOWS THIS PRETTY WELL, AND HE'S KIND OF RUN WITH IT NOW. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. HE HE HE WOULD PROBABLY ADDRESS THIS. MR. BELL, IF YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD. BILL BELL DIRECTOR OF DOT, I KNOW COUNCILMAN BENSON'S BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR MANY YEARS, AND I'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR A FEW MONTHS NOW. SO FINALLY TWISTED ENOUGH ARMS OVER KYTC AND THEY'RE THEY'RE GOING TO HAND US 750 000 AND WITH NO MATCH. SO. SO WE'LL GET THE FINAL DESIGN DONE. ALL RIGHT. DO YOU HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? I DON'T HAVE ANYONE IN THE QUEUE. OKAY. THIS IS A RESOLUTION REQUIRING A ROLL CALL. VOTE.
VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED. HEARING NONE. MOTION CARRIES. SORRY. ALRIGHT.
THANK YOU FOR THAT. THE LAST ITEM WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA IS A PRESENTATION. MR. BILL,
[2. ID 25-0753 AFTER ACTION REPORT/SNOW EVENT – Bill Bell, Public Works]
FOR AN AFTER ACTION REPORT ON THE SNOW EVENT. ACTUALLY, WE'VE HAD TWO SNOW EVENTS. NOW WE HAVE FIRST, I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE MY FRIEND OVER HERE TO THE RIGHT. GO AHEAD. OH, WELL. SORRY. YEAH. FOR THE RECORD, WES SIDNER, I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS. AND SO I'VE BEEN ON THE JOB FOR ABOUT 30 ISH HOURS NOW. SO. EVERYTHING THAT WENT WELL WITH, WITH WITH SNOW IT. YEAH, I DID THAT. NO, SERIOUSLY, I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK THE FOLKS THAT ARE SITTING BEHIND ME AND THE THE FOLKS, THE HUNDREDS OF FOLKS THAT SUPPORT THEM ON A DAILY BASIS FOR THE DOING THE JOB THAT IS SO CRITICAL TO THE CITY.I AM SO GRATEFUL TO WORK WITH THIS TEAM. AND, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE ABOUT TO SHARE ABOUT THE THE RESPONSE TO SNOW AND THE ON THE FIRST AS WELL AS YESTERDAY, IT'S A GREAT TEAM AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO GOOD THINGS AND AND BE RESPONSIVE TO YOU ALL AND HELP THE CITY BE SAFER AND, YOU KNOW, JUST IMPROVE QUALITY OF LIFE. AND SO I'M SO EXCITED TO WORK WITH YOU ALL. AND I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A GREAT, GREAT PARTNERSHIP THAT WE CONTINUE TO BUILD. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WELCOME. YEP. OKAY. AND WES WAS DEFINITELY HE WAS AT OUR INITIAL PRESS CONFERENCE. SO SO BEFORE HE STARTED. SO WE WE APPRECIATE THAT. AS YOU ALL KNOW WE WE HIRED A CONSULTANT EARLY IN THE YEAR, GAVE US SEVERAL RECOMMENDATIONS. SOME OF THOSE ROUTE ADJUSTMENTS WHICH WE ADOPTED, NEW EQUIPMENT WHICH HAS BEEN PURCHASED AND DEPLOYED, TRAINING FOR SNOW TEAM STAFF WHICH DID OCCUR, ENHANCED INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL COMMUNICATION. I THINK WE MADE SOME PROGRESS ERE. THE CONSULTANT ACTUALLY REACHED OUT
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TO US AND SAID SHE SAW SOME OF OUR SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS AND UPDATES, SO SHE THOUGHT THAT WAS GREAT. AND THEN ALSO MORE EMPHASIS ON BRINING WHEN APPROPRIATE. OH YEAH. OKAY. AND WE DID BRINE BEFORE THIS FIRST EVENT. SO WE DID HAVE A PRESS CONFERENCE ON NOVEMBER 25TH. WE TALKED ABOUT THE NEW ENHANCED ROUTES COLLABORATION WITH KYTC, JC, LG AND OTHERS, TALKED ABOUT THE THE SALT DOMES WERE FULL, THE NEW EQUIPMENT AND THEN THE THE SNOW TEAM, WHICH CONSISTED OF AT LEAST 200 EMPLOYEES, INCLUDING PUBLIC WORKS, WHICH WHICH IS SWIMS DOT METRO PARKS, FLEET CODES AND REGS, VACANT LOTS AND EMERGENCY SERVICES. THIS IS OUR SNAPSHOT OF OUR SNOW ROUTE PAGE. LOUISVILLE, KY.GOV/SNOW. AND THAT'S UPDATED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. SO AND THERE'S COLOR CODING. IF A ROUTE HAS BEEN PLOWED IT CHANGES COLORS. WE CONSULTED.OR WE WATCHED THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ALONG WITH OTHER NEWSCASTS TO SEE WHAT WAS COMING. AND SO WE LOOKED AT ON DECEMBER 1ST, THEY SAID 1 TO 3IN. AND SO AS WE KNOW, WE'VE GOT WE GOT CLOSER TO FIVE IN A LOT OF AREAS. AND SO HERE IT IS PREDICTING ABOUT TWO INCHES IN LOUISVILLE. AND SO WE HAD WE HAD SOME OTHER MEETINGS, SOME INTERNAL MEETINGS. WE TRACKED WEATHER, LIKE I SAID, ABOUT NINE DAYS OUT. SNOW TEAM WAS ACTIVATED ON DECEMBER 1ST INCLUDING WE HAD SOME STAFF CHANGES. SO WE HAD TO BRING IN THE EAST DISTRICT, USUALLY OFF ON MONDAYS. SO THEY THEY DID COME IN AND THEN SALTING AND WE BRINING. OKAY. SORRY ABOUT THAT.
BRINING HAPPENED THAT DAY ON THE FIRST. AND SO WE HIT IT WITH THE WITH THE SALT LATER THAT NIGHT. I THINK THAT MADE A HUGE DIFFERENCE. AND THEN WE LIKE I SAID WE ENDED UP GETTING CLOSE TO FIVE INCHES. WE DID HAVE A ANOTHER MEDIA EVENT ON THE SECOND AFTER ANOTHER. WE HAD AN INTERNAL MEETING AT 730 AND THEN A MEDIA EVENT AT NOON ON THE SECOND, TALKING ABOUT THE RESULTS SO FAR. AND THEN WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT. SALTING AGAIN THAT NIGHT OF THE SECOND TO PREVENT REFREEZING OF ROADWAYS. AND SO WE DID APPROXIMATELY 500 MILES WITH BRINE AND THEN 2700 MILES OF, OF SALTING AND THEN PLOWING LATER THAT IN THE WEE HOURS OF THE SECOND. SOME OPPORTUNITIES THAT THAT WE PICKED UP IN OUR AFTER ACTION, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE ALL PARTNERS INCLUDED ON CALLS. THERE'S AN INTERNAL APP FOR FOR COMMUNICATION CALLED SLACK THAT'S COMING ONLINE PRETTY SOON. WE'RE JUST WORKING WITH IT TO TO GET THAT OVER THE FINISH LINE. ONE THING THAT THAT WE NEED TO DO. THE CONSULTANT WANTED MORE, WANTED THE PLOW OR THE SNOW FIGHTERS TO MAKE THAT CALL AND WHEN TO START PLOWING. WE'RE GOING TO TWEAK THAT A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SOME SOME FOLKS WERE UNSURE WHEN TO START PLOWING.
SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO DISTRICT BY DISTRICT AND MAKE THAT CALL. AND WE'RE EXPLORING A NEW TECHNOLOGY FOR REAL TIME MAP UPDATES AND ROUTING. RIGHT NOW SWIMS HAS ROUTE WHERE WHICH PRETTY MUCH TELLS YOU WHERE THE SWIMS TRUCKS ARE GOING. WE'RE GOING TO GET TWO OF THOSE TRUCKS AND ROADS OUTFITTED WITH ROUTE WHERE. AND THEN ALSO THE TURN BY TURN TECHNOLOGY THAT'S WE'RE GOING TO TEST THAT OUT. THE VENDOR WE'RE USING, THEY'RE GOING TO LET US TEST THAT AT NO COST. AND SO WE'VE WE'VE ALSO PUT IN A BUDGET REQUEST FOR THE TURN BY TURN TECHNOLOGY FOR THE
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NEXT FISCAL YEAR. SO THAT WILL BE WHICH WILL BE HUGE FOR US EFFICIENCIES ETCETERA. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT I LEARNED IS THAT GOING FROM THE ROUTES AND BEING BEING RUN TO ACTUALLY SHOWING UP ON THE MAP ONLINE IS A VERY MANUAL PROCESS. AND SO I WON'T GET INTO THE THE DETAILS OF THAT, BUT I THINK HAVING SOME TECHNOLOGY TO MAKE THAT MORE REAL TIME WILL HELP US OPERATIONALLY, AS WELL AS HELP COMMUNICATE WHERE WE'RE AT AND WHAT WE'VE DONE. AND THIS MONDAY, WE DID NOT BRINE, BUT WE DID SALT EARLY MORNING. I THINK IT STARTED ABOUT SIX EAST STARTED A LITTLE BIT LATER BECAUSE THEY HAD TO CALL IN EVERYBODY BECAUSE THERE'S THE OFF ON THAT MONDAY ON MONDAYS. AND SO THAT THAT TOOK A LITTLE WHILE TO GET THE EAST DISTRICT ACTIVATED. SO ONCE THEY GOT IN THERE, I THINK WE NOTICED A NOTICEABLE DIFFERENCE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. SO. ANY QUESTIONS? SO I WILL START OFF WITH THIS. I'VE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE CALL MY OFFICE CONSTITUENTS CALL MY OFFICE TO EXPRESS THEIR THEIR PLEASURE WITH HOW THE ROADS WERE WERE CLEANED. THAT NEVER HAPPENS. SO SO TAKE TAKE THAT TAKE A VICTORY LAP ON THAT ONE AND I AND I'LL ECHO THAT FROM THANK YOU. YOU KNOW PARTS OF THE COUNTY THAT I DROVE, IT WAS IT WAS CLEARED OFF IN, IN SHORT ORDER. SO GOOD JOB I APPRECIATE THAT, COUNCILMAN BRATCHER. THANK YOU. SO YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS, BUT SO I'VE HAD SOME HOA'S. YOU DON'T DO HOA AREAS, RIGHT? NO. TYPICALLY NOT THEY, THEY THEY'RE TO DO THEIR OWN. AND AND SO SOME OTHER TRANSIENTS COMING IN AND REALLY NICE NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY'RE SAYING CITIES SHOULD BE DOING THAT AND THAT THE HOA CAN GET SUED IF IT MESSES UP AND ALL THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IS THAT A LEGAL QUESTION? YEAH, WE CAN WE CAN CHECK ON THAT. YEAH. IT'S I DON'T KNOW. THAT WOULD BE I'VE HEARD OF.YEAH. THAT'S THE FIRST I'VE HEARD OF SOMETHING LIKE THAT TOO. AND THEY SAY THAT OTHER CITIES LEARN THE HARD WAY THAT AND THEY STARTED DOING IT. SO I DON'T KNOW, JUST MAYBE THINK OF THAT. BUT NO, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. COUNCILMAN HERNDON THANK YOU SIR. JUST WANT TO TO GREAT JOB ON THE SNOW THIS YEAR. BUT ALSO JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT MY LONGTIME FRIEND MR. SYDNOR, I WAS THRILLED TO HEAR THAT YOU HAD GOTTEN THIS JOB. AND IT WAS BASED UPON 20 PLUS YEARS OF WORKING TOGETHER. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU. IT'S VERY EXCITED FOR YOU AND FOR THE CITY. AND I UNDERSTANDING, AS I SAID, MY MY FIRST PRIORITY COMMITTEE WAS PUBLIC WORKS. THAT WAS MY NUMBER ONE. AND I'VE DISCOVERED AS I GOT HERE THAT COUNCILMAN CRAMER AND I ARE CARD CARRYING DEFERRED MAINTENANCE GEEKS, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH HIM ON THOSE THINGS. BUT ALL BUT ALSO UNDERSTANDING THE IMMENSITY AND COMPLEXITY OF WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE TO DO. I MEAN, AS I ASKED EARLIER, THE OTHER PEOPLE EARLIER, THAT'S WE ALL WANT OUR STUFF FIXED RIGHT AWAY. BUT EVERY SINGLE THING, EVERY SINGLE STREET, EVERY PLACE IS, IS A LOT. AND SO I DO UNDERSTAND THAT AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU IN THE NEW CAPACITY. SAME HERE. THANK YOU. WELL, I WANT TO RECOGNIZE SOME FOLKS BEHIND ME TOO. LIKE WES SPOKE EARLIER, WE HAVE NATE BARNETT. HE'S ONE WEEK IN AND THEN HAD HIS FIRST SNOW EVENT AS ASSISTANT DIRECTOR INTERIM ASSISTANT DIRECTOR. SO RAISE YOUR HAND. NATE. YOU WANT TO SPEAK? OH, OKAY. BUT HE DID A FANTASTIC JOB. ALL THE CREWS DID A FANTASTIC JOB. AND SO WE YOU KNOW, WE APPRECIATE THE THANKS.
BUT IT'S IT'S THESE GUYS. SO THEY DID A FANTASTIC JOB. AND IF I MAY ADD OVER TIME THAT HAS BEEN THE CASE. I'VE LEARNED FROM CERTAINLY MY WORKING WITH EVERYONE DOWN DOWN THE CHAIN IS IT'S IT'S A DO GOOD WORK AND UNDER VERY OFTEN DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCES. SO THANK YOU ALL.
SO I'VE GOT NO ONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE. IS THERE ANYONE ONLINE THAT HAS A QUESTION. HEARING? NONE. THANK YOU FOR COMING. THANK YOU. GREAT JOB ON THE FIRST ONE. LET'S KEEP IT UP.
YES, SIR. GOT ONE IN A ROW. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AND WE STAND ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.