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LET'S DO THIS. GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS IS THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING OF

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THE LABOR AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE FOR TUESDAY, DECEMBER 9TH, 2025. IT

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IS 305 APPLE TIME. I AM CHAIR BEN WEBER, AND THIS MEETING IS BEING HELD PURSUANT TO KRS

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61.826 AND COUNCIL RULE FIVE A. I AM JOINED HERE BY MY CO-CHAIR, KRYSTAL BASS. COUNCIL MEMBER

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KEN HERNDON, COUNCILMAN ANDREW OWEN, COUNCILWOMAN DONNA PURVIS, COUNCILMAN STEWART BENSON, COUNCILMAN CHARLIE BENSON, AND AND VIRTUALLY NOT BY ANYBODY YET. OKAY. WE ARE GOING TO GO SLIGHTLY OUT OF ORDER FROM THE AGENDA. WE'RE GOING TO START WITH ITEM FOUR. MADAM CLERK,

[4. R-162-25     A RESOLUTION RATIFYING AND APPROVING A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT (FROM THE DATE OF ITS APPROVAL THROUGH JUNE 30, 2030) RELATING TO WAGES, BENEFITS AND OTHER TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT BETWEEN LOUISVILLE/ JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT AND THE INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD OF ELECTRICAL WORKERS, AFL CIO-CLC, IBEW LOCAL 369, CONCERNING CERTAIN EMPLOYEES OF LOUISVILLE METRO EMERGENCY SERVICES/METROSAFE. Action Required By:  June 4, 2026 Sponsors: Ben Reno-Weber (D-8) ]

WILL YOU READ ITEM FOUR, A RESOLUTION RATIFYING AND APPROVING A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT FROM THE DATE OF ITS APPROVAL THROUGH JUNE 30TH, 2030, RELATING TO WAGES, BENEFITS AND OTHER TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT BETWEEN LOUISVILLE-JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT AND THE INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD OF ELECTRICAL WORKERS, AFL-CIO, CLC, IBEW LOCAL 369, CONCERNING CERTAIN EMPLOYEES OF LOUISVILLE METRO EMERGENCY SERVICES. METRO.

SACRED TEMPLE. MOTION. SECOND. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK TO THIS? HELLO? AARON JACKSON WITH OMB. THIS AGREEMENT BEFORE YOU COVERS 20 POSITIONS. THAT WILL BE RADIO TECHNICIANS ONE AND TWO AND COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH ANALYSTS. IT IS A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT COVERING FISCAL YEAR 26 THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 30. IT INCLUDES STEPS, COLAS ON LONGEVITY, LONGEVITY. FY 26 CALLS FOR AVERAGE WAGE WAGES OF APPROXIMATELY 22%. RETRO TO JULY 1ST, 2025, FY 27 AND FY 28 CALLS FOR A 5% WAGE INCREASE EACH YEAR IN FY 29 AND FY 30 CALLS FOR A 2% WAGE INCREASE EACH YEAR. TOTAL COST OF THE CONTRACT IS 9.1 MILLION WITHOUT FRINGES AND 11.5 MILLION WITH FRINGES. AND THEY VOTED 16 TO 3. AND COUNCILMAN OWEN, I'LL GO AHEAD AND SAVE YOU A QUESTION. I'M TOLD THAT THIS CONTRACT IS WITHIN MARKET RATE. SO WITH THAT, I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. MY QUEUE IS MISBEHAVING DUE DOUBTLESS TO USER ERROR, SO IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, PLEASE WAVE FRANTICALLY. ANYONE? OKAY.

SEEING NONE. THIS IS AN ITEM THAT REQUIRES A VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SEEING NONE, THIS PASSES BY ACCLAMATION. AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND I'M GLAD THAT IT'S NOT YOU THAT WAS LEAVING US. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM NUMBER ONE. MADAM CLERK, A RESOLUTION

[1. R-147-25     A RESOLUTION PURSUANT TO THE CAPITAL AND OPERATING BUDGET ORDINANCES APPROVING THE APPROPRIATION TO FUND THE FOLLOWING NONCOMPETITIVELY NEGOTIATED PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT FOR THE CABINET FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR CONSULTING SERVICES REGARDING PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING (FUSE CORP. - $180,000.00). Action Required By:  June 4, 2026 Sponsors: Ben Reno-Weber (D-8) ]

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PURSUANT TO THE CAPITAL AND OPERATING BUDGET ORDINANCE IS APPROVING THE APPROPRIATION TO FUND THE FOLLOWING NONCOMPETITIVELY NEGOTIATED PROFESSIONAL SERVICE CONTRACT WITH THE THE CABINET OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR CONSULTING SERVICES REGARDING PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. FUZE CORP, $180,000. READ IN FULL MOTION. IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK TO THIS? YEAH. OKAY, EXCELLENT. MISS JACKSON. MARILYN. HI. HI. MARILYN HARRIS, SENIOR HOUSING POLICY ADVISOR FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CABINET. GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL.

OH GO AWAY DOG. THE THE CONTRACT ITSELF IS WITH FUZE. AND FUZE IS A NATIONAL GROUP AND THEY DO A LOT OF PHILANTHROPIC WORK IN VARIOUS COMMUNITIES TO STREAMLINE AND ENSURE THAT KIND OF OUTSIDE THE BOX THINKING THAT WILL BENEFIT A COMMUNITY GETS IMPLEMENTED.

AND SO AS WE HAVE HEADED DOWN THE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING ROAD AND REALLY COMMITTING FUNDING AND RESOURCES, PEOPLE, RESOURCES TO THAT, WE CAME ACROSS AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH FUZE TO FIND US A NATIONAL EXPERT WHO CAN HELP THE CITY, DEVELOPING A COMPREHENSIVE IMPLEMENTATION AND SUSTAINABILITY PLAN, AND DESIGN A FINANCIAL MODEL TO CREATE AND SUSTAIN A FUNDING STRATEGY FOR THE FUTURE. AND SO FUZE WILL DO A NATIONAL SEARCH AND THEY WILL FIND SOMEONE WHO ACTUALLY HAS THIS EXPERIENCE, AND THEN WE WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO THEY'LL FIND US UP TO THREE PEOPLE, AND THEN WE WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTERVIEW THEM AND MAKE A CHOICE. AND THEN THAT PERSON WOULD TECHNICALLY WORK FOR FUZE, BUT THEY WILL BE EMBEDDED IN THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WORKING CLOSELY WITH MYSELF AND DOCTOR MARIA LEDERMAN, THE THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH. AS WE WORK TO IMPLEMENT AND AND MOVE THE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING INITIATIVE FORWARD. IT WOULD BE A ONE YEAR CONTRACT, AND IT IS A $100,000 OF CITY MONEY AND UP TO 80,000 OF PHILANTHROPIC DOLLARS. AND WE ARE USING OPIOIDS. OPIOID SAID.

I CAN'T SAY THAT VERY FAST OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUNDS TO COVER THE 100,000, IF IN FACT THEY DO NOT FIND US ANYONE THAT MEETS OUR CRITERIA, THEN THE CONTRACT BECOMES NULL AND VOID AND WE WOULD NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. BUT THEY FEEL CONFIDENT THROUGH OUR MULTIPLE DISCUSSIONS THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO FIND US SOMEONE WHO HAS EXPERTISE WITH IMPLEMENTING PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PLANS ACROSS CITIES. THANK YOU. DIRECTOR HARRIS, LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT. WE HAVE BEEN JOINED VIRTUALLY BY COUNCILWOMAN DOCTOR PAUL MCCARTNEY AND IN PERSON BY COUNCILMAN LINDINGER COLLEAGUES. QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS, COUNCILMEMBER SEAN. I DON'T HAVE THE RED NOSE OR THE THE THE ANTLERS, BUT I'LL IF YOU DON'T MIND, MR. CHAIR. MARILYN, THANK YOU FOR THAT. MY QUESTION IS, IF THEY DON'T FIND THIS ANYONE DO DO WE HAVE TO PAY ON THAT CONTRACT? OKAY. AND WE DO NOT. WE DO NOT. AND THEY GIVE US THE OPTION TO. IF THEY DON'T FIND ANYBODY FOR THE SPRING VIEW SESSION, THEY WOULD GIVE US THE OPTION TO DO IT AGAIN IN THE FALL. AND THEN WE HAVE THE OPTION OF, OF ACCEPTING THAT OR NOT. AND WHEN THEY DO FIND US THREE INDIVIDUALS, WILL THOSE THREE INDIVIDUALS COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL TO CHOOSE OR DOES JEFF AND HIS TEAM, ARE YOU AND YOUR TEAM MAKE THAT SELECTION? YES, IT WOULD BE AN INTERVIEW PROCESS WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MYSELF. DOCTOR LEDERMAN OVER AT THE OFFICE FOR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH. WE MAY PULL IN A THIRD PERSON, POSSIBLY KATY LIPMAN, WHO HAS GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS BEFORE. WE AS THE CITY CURRENTLY HAVE TWO FUZE FELLOWS ON BOARD RIGHT NOW. THEIR TERMS END THIS SPRING, SO WE WOULD JUST BE BRINGING A NEW ONE ON. AND I WOULD ALSO SAY I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO ADD THAT THEY ARE FUZED WHEN I SAY THEY FUZE IS ALREADY STARTING TO TO WORK ON THIS AND AND DO THE WORK TO TRY AND GET THE WORD OUT THAT THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. AND IT IS A NATIONAL SEARCH. AND THE SELECTED CANDIDATE WOULD RELOCATE TO LOUISVILLE FOR THE YEAR. IT'S NOT SOMEBODY GOING TO BE WORKING, NOT IN THE CITY. THEY WILL BE WORKING HERE IN THE CITY, EVEN IF THEY'RE FROM, LET'S SAY, I DON'T KNOW, OREGON OR NORTH DAKOTA. THEY WOULD THEY WOULD COME TO LOUISVILLE ABOUT 65% OF THE TIME. WHEN THEY FIND A CANDIDATE, THAT CANDIDATE IS NOT LOCAL, AND

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THAT CANDIDATE MOVES TO THE CITY FOR WHERE THEY'RE DOING THE WORK. MR. CHAIR, CAN I FOLLOW UP, PLEASE? MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION TO THAT? MARILYN, I THINK THAT SOUNDS GREAT. IS THERE LONG TERM OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT PERSON IF THEY DO A GREAT JOB, I GUESS IS THE QUESTION THERE? I THINK I THINK THERE PROBABLY IS. BUT WHETHER THAT PERSON WOULD WANT TO, I DON'T KNOW, THIS PERSON'S JOB REALLY IS TO HELP US DESIGN AND IMPLEMENT AND GET THE BALL, REALLY GET SOME MOMENTUM BEHIND THE FUNDING STRATEGY AND THE FINANCING MODEL, AND HELP US IMPLEMENT A SUSTAINABILITY PLAN. AND SO IDEALLY, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS PERSON HELP US SET THAT UP AND THEN POSSIBLY HIRE SOMEONE PERMANENTLY AFTER THE FUZE YEAR IS OVER. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU COUNCILMAN. SO I WOULD JUST NOTE THAT THE DIRECTOR OF FUZE SORT OF BE OUT AT NLC, WHERE WE WERE ALL THERE TOGETHER AND WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT HOW EXCITED THEY WERE FOR THIS PROJECT. THEY'VE ACTUALLY GOT TWO OTHER FUZE FELLOWS HERE. IS THAT RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT.

WE HAVE TWO RIGHT NOW, AND I BELIEVE THEY ARE BASICALLY THE ONLY ORGANIZATION OF ITS KIND IN THE COUNTRY. BUT THEY'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. GIVEN THE EMPHASIS NATIONALLY ON PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. AND HOW DO WE SUPPORT THAT. THEY THINK THAT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM, NOT JUST TO PLACE A PERSON AND TO DO THIS PROJECT, BUT THEN THAT BECOMES A TEMPLATE FOR OTHER PROJECTS THAT THEY CAN DO IN OTHER COMMUNITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY. SO THEY'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT. ANYTHING ELSE? I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE. SEEING NONE. THIS IS AN ITEM THAT REQUIRES A VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SEEING NONE. THIS ITEM IS CONSIDERED PASSED BY ACCLAMATION, AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. MADAM CLERK, WILL YOU READ THE NEXT ITEM? MR. CHAIRMAN, BUT I VOTED NO. OH, I'M SO SORRY. PLEASE LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT WE'VE GOT. OH. YOU OKAY? ITEM STILL PASSES. I JUST WANTED TO GO TO. NOT THE CONSENT CALENDAR. IT WILL NOT GO TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. IT WILL GO TO OLD BUSINESS. THANK YOU. OKAY, MADAM CLERK, WILL YOU NOW READ THE TITLE OF THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA? A

[2. R-150-25     A RESOLUTION PURSUANT TO THE CAPITAL AND OPERATING BUDGET ORDINANCES APPROVING THE APPROPRIATION TO FUND THE FOLLOWING NONCOMPETITIVELY NEGOTIATED PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT FOR THE LOUISVILLE METRO DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELLNESS TO PAY FOR HEALTH ECONOMIST SERVICES (UNIVERSITY OF LOUISVILLE - $59,571.00). Action Required By:  June 4, 2026 Sponsors: Ben Reno-Weber (D-8) ]

RESOLUTION PURSUANT TO THE CAPITAL AND OPERATING BUDGET ORDINANCES APPROVING THE APPROPRIATION TO FUND THE FOLLOWING NONCOMPETITIVELY NEGOTIATED PROFESSIONAL SERVICE CONTRACT FOR THE LOUISVILLE METRO DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELLNESS TO PAY FOR THE HEALTH ECONOMIST SERVICES. UNIVERSITY OF LOUISVILLE, $59,571 IN FULL. THERE IS SOMEONE HERE TO SPEAK TO IT. HELLO, CONNIE MENDEL. I SERVE AS CHIEF HEALTH STRATEGIST FOR LOUISVILLE METRO PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELLNESS, YOUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT. WE ARE ASKING FOR YOU TO APPROVE THIS CONTRACT WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF LOUISVILLE SCHOOL FOR PUBLIC HEALTH, FOR A PUBLIC HEALTH ECONOMIST SERVICES. THIS CONTRACT ENSURES THAT OUR DIVISION OF POPULATION HEALTH HAS THE ADVANCED TECHNICAL CAPACITY NEEDED TO CONDUCT COMPLEX ECONOMIC MODELING AND STATISTICAL ANALYSIS THAT WE DO NOT HAVE THE EXPERTISE IN HOUSE.

SO IT'S DOCTOR SADE CARINI. HE SERVES AS THE PUBLIC HEALTH ECONOMIST, AND THIS CONTRACT WILL COVER SOME OF HIS TIME, PLUS THE TIME OF PUBLIC HEALTH ECONOMICS GRADUATE RESEARCH ASSISTANTS. OKAY. COLLEAGUES, ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? CHRISTMAS SONGS. MR. CHAIRMAN, DOCTOR MCCRANEY, MAY I ASK A QUESTION? ABSOLUTELY. HI. THANK YOU FOR COMING AND PRESENTING.

IS THE DOCTOR CURRENTLY IN LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY AND ASSOCIATED WITH ANY PARTICULAR ENTITY OR HOSPITAL? HE IS CURRENTLY ON FACULTY AT THE UNIVERSITY OF LOUISVILLE SCHOOL FOR PUBLIC HEALTH. THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF HIS OF A CONTRACT THAT WE'VE HAD WITH THE SCHOOL. WE HAVE OTHER CONTRACTS WITH, LIKE OUR LABORATORY DIRECTOR WE SHARE HER WITH, WITH ACTUALLY UNIVERSITY OF LOUISVILLE. SHE'S ON FACULTY AND DIRECTS THEIR LAB. SO SHE'S ABLE TO DO BOTH THAT IN SIMILARLY WITH DOCTOR KARIMI, HE DOES LIVE IN LOUISVILLE. HE IS ON STAFF AND JUST HAVING A PART OF HIS TIME OR HALF, YOU KNOW, IT JUST ALLOWS US SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T AFFORD TO DO IN-HOUSE COMPLETELY. AND ALSO IT HELPS SUPPORTS OUR ACADEMIC HEALTH DEPARTMENT OBJECTIVES AND OPERATIONS. AND WHAT PORTION OF THIS IS THIS CONTRACT IS HIS SALARY. I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT IT IT WOULD BE LESS

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THAN HALF. IT COVERS A PORTION OF HIS AND FOR GRADUATE ASSISTANTS. SO IT'S A LITTLE OVER $59,000. THANK YOU. SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE. THIS IS AN ITEM THAT REQUIRES A VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. THOSE OPPOSED SEEING NONE. THIS IS ITEM THAT WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT CONSENT CALENDAR. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AND WITH NO OBJECTION AND NO FURTHER ANTLERS OR SONGS, WE STAND ADJOURNED. I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD. OH! NUMBER THREE. OH, SORRY, I APOLOGIZE. INCORRECT. CLERK. MADAM CLERK, WILL YOU

[3. R-151-25     A RESOLUTION DETERMINING REAL PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 1495 SOUTH ELEVENTH STREET AND 1800 SOUTH SEVENTH STREET AS SURPLUS AND NOT NEEDED FOR THE GOVERNMENTAL PURPOSES OF METRO GOVERNMENT AND AUTHORIZING THEIR TRANSFER. Action Required By:  June 4, 2026 Sponsors: JP Lyninger (D-6) ]

READ THE TITLE OF THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA? RESOLUTION DETERMINING REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1495 SOUTH 11TH STREET AND 1800 SOUTH SEVENTH STREET, IS SURPLUS AND NOT NEEDED FOR GOVERNMENTAL PURPOSES. THE METRO GOVERNMENT AND AUTHORIZING THEIR TRANSFER AND FULL MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND MOTION AND SECOND? IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK TO THIS? SORRY, JEFF. GIVE ME A HEART ATTACK. GOOD AFTERNOON. COUNCIL JEFF O'BRIEN, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THE RESOLUTION FOR SURPLUS IN FRONT OF YOU IS FOR THE PROPERTY AT 1495 SOUTH 11TH STREET. THIS IS A BROWNFIELD PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WE HAVE OWNED SINCE 1997. I GRADUATED HIGH SCHOOL IN 1996, JUST FOR REFERENCE. SO JUST SO BUT ANYWAY, WE'VE WE WE PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY. IT WAS FORMERLY USED FOR MANUFACTURING. THIS IS ACROSS IMMEDIATELY ACROSS THE STREET FROM PARKWAY PLACE HOMES IN THE PARK HILL NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT IS 17 ACRES. THERE IS. WE WENT THROUGH A COMPETITIVE SOLICITATION OF INTEREST FOR THIS PROPERTY IN 2020. WE ARE WORKING WITH A DEVELOPER, RYLAND GROUP, WHICH IS A MINORITY OWNED DEVELOPER. THEY HAVE DONE SOME FABULOUS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS TO DEVELOP AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT. METRO GOVERNMENT HAS SPENT UPWARDS OF $9 MILLION DOING REMEDIATION ON THIS PROPERTY USING OUR ARP FUNDS. SO THE NORTHERN HALF OF THIS SITE IS NOW READY FOR AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. THE DEVELOPER HAS SECURED $31 MILLION IN LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDITS FROM KENTUCKY HOUSING CORPORATION, AND WE ARE READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT. AND THEY'RE HOPING TO CLOSE HERE IN THE NEXT 60 DAYS. SO THIS IS A THIS PROJECT ALSO HAS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ATTACHED TO IT. SO JUST LET ME GIVE YOU THE TERMS OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. THE RIGHT NOW, METRO IS COMMITTED TO SELL THE NORTHERN TRACT OF PROPERTY UNDER THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WAS ATTACHED TO THE RESOLUTION. THAT PROPERTY WILL BE TRANSFERRED FOR A DOLLAR AND CONSIDERATION OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, AND IN CONSIDERATION OF THE COMMITMENTS THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS MADE TO THE COMMUNITY. IF THE DEVELOPER HAS AN OPTION TO COME BACK AND DEVELOP THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THAT PROPERTY, BUT THE SOUTHERN 11 OR SO ACRES STILL NEEDS TO BE REMEDIATED SO THAT THAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE. THEY WILL HAVE TO GIVE US A PLAN UPON GETTING THEIR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, AND THEN COME BACK AND DEVELOP THAT.

SO THAT WILL TAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. IT WILL NOT TAKE SUBSEQUENT COUNCIL ACTION UNLESS THEY REQUEST ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR METRO GOVERNMENT OR OTHER ZONING APPROVALS FROM US. SO THAT IS THAT IS THE GENERAL TERMS OF THE OF THE PROJECT AND HIRED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY. BUT THAT'S THE GENERAL GIST OF IT. I WILL TAKE A MOMENT OF EDITORIAL PRIVILEGE. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WITNESS SOME OF THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS HERE THAT HAS HAPPENED OVER MULTIPLE YEARS. IT WAS A MASTERCLASS IN HOW TO FUNDAMENTALLY ENGAGE THE NEIGHBORS. I MEAN, THEY DID MULTIPLE, MULTI-YEAR, NOT JUST PERFORMATIVE MEETINGS, BUT REAL DEEP ENGAGEMENTS IN WHAT PEOPLE WANTED TO SEE. THEY DID A PHOTOVOICE PROJECT. THEY PRESENTED IT ON THE SITE. THE DIVERSITY OF THE FOLKS WHO HAD INPUT INTO WHAT THEY WANTED TO SEE. IT WAS LED BY DOCTOR BRANDY, KELLY PRYOR. I MEAN, IT WAS A MASTERCLASS IN HOW WE DO THIS AS A COMMUNITY, AND I HOPE EVERYBODY IS PAYING ATTENTION TO THE VOICES THAT WERE LIFTED UP, BECAUSE THIS IS HOW REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT SHOULD GET DONE IN OUR CITY. I WILL MOVE TO THE Q COUNCILMAN LINDINGER. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. EVERYONE KNOWS THAT I AM BROADLY SKEPTICAL OF WHEN WE SURPLUS PROPERTY, WHEN WE GIVE AWAY TAX INCENTIVES. THIS IS TRULY THE EXCEPTION THAT PROVES THE RULE AND THE WORK THAT WAS DONE ON THIS PROJECT TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY, TO BUILD TRUST IN THE COMMUNITY, TO PROVIDE VALUE TO THE PEOPLE WHO ALREADY LIVE, NOT JUST IN PARKWAY PLACE, BUT ALL OF ALGONQUIN. WHAT HAS BEEN

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CREATED FROM THIS PROJECT? THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS A BRAND NEW NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION FOR ALL OF PARK HILL AND ALGONQUIN, AND IT HAS ENGAGED NEIGHBORS. IT HAS CREATED COMMUNITY WHERE THERE WAS NONE. THESE PEOPLE ARE NOW ACTIVE. THEY ARE ENGAGED. MANY OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE BECOME PART OF MY ADVISORY COUNCIL THAT WITHOUT THE WORK THAT WAS DONE HERE WITH THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT WOULD HAVE BEEN ATOMIZED, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ENGAGED IN COMMUNITY THE WAY THEY ARE. I REALLY WANT TO COMMEND THE PEOPLE WHO WORKED ON THIS PROJECT TO BUILD THAT LEVEL OF TRUST IN THE COMMUNITY. I'M PROUD TO SPONSOR THIS, AND I DO URGE PASSAGE OF THIS ITEM FROM MY COLLEAGUES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN PURVIS.

THANK YOU, JOE, FOR BEING HERE. WHERE IS THIS? IN PROXIMITY TO THORNTON'S WHITE COUNCIL'S. IS IT CLOSE BY? SO IT'S IT'S NORTH OF THERE. IT'S IT IS THE THE CHAMBERS HERE. IT'S NORTH OF THERE. IF I SINCE I'M PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH THE GEOGRAPHY, IT IS NORTH OF THERE. IT IS WHEN YOU ARE COMING UP HILL STREET, IT IS THE BROAD SWATH OF NOTHING THAT IS JUST EAST OF PARKWAY PLACE. THIS WAS THE FORMER SITE. IT WAS EXTREMELY ENVIRONMENTALLY CONTAMINATED.

AS JEFF MENTIONED, THERE WAS A MAJOR INVESTMENT FROM THE CITY TO CLEAN UP THE SITE AND MAKE IT READY FOR HOUSING. SO IF I'M GOING EAST ON HILL, I'M GOING TO TURN RIGHT. NO, IT'LL BE IT.

SO IF YOU'RE GOING EAST ON HILL, IT'LL BE ON YOUR RIGHT, YOU KNOW THAT. SO THERE'S PARKWAY PLACE, THERE'S THAT KIND OF TRIANGLE, THE WHERE THERE USED TO BE PARKING AND NOW THERE'S FENCED. IT'S FENCED IN. YEAH. IT IS THE PROPERTY THAT JUST AFTER THE TRIANGLE, LIKE I SAID, THAT WHERE THERE'S, THERE'S NOTHING AT ALL. IT IS, IS ON THE WEST SIDE. IT'S ON THE, IT'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF SOUTH SIDE OF HILL. AND IT IS DIRECTLY EAST OF PARKWAY PLACE.

YOU'VE CONFUSED ME WHEN YOU SAY PARKWAY PLACE, BECAUSE I'M THINKING OF WHAT PEOPLE COLLOQUIALLY CALL PARK HILL. OKAY. THE YOU KNOW, THE PARK HILL COMPLEX, THE, THE PROPER NAME FOR IT IS PARKWAY PLACE, BUT THAT BUT WHAT PEOPLE CALL PARK HILL, DID IT HAVE THOSE LIKE ELECTRICAL GRIDS AND THINGS ON IT AT ONE TIME? THERE IS STILL SOME OF THAT THAT THAT GOES THROUGH BOTH OF THOSE PROPERTIES FROM THE PROPERTY ROOM. YES YES YES. YEAH. YEAH.

OKAY. AND WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO WITH IT. SO ON THE NORTHERN HALF OF THE PROPERTY CLOSEST TO HILL STREET, THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS ABOUT THERE'S ABOUT 300 UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT THERE FOR PEOPLE MAKING UP TO 60%. AMI.

SO I'M USING ROUND NUMBERS HERE, APPROXIMATELY $1,000 A MONTH. AND THEN THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE SITE, THERE IS NOT A PLAN RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THERE THERE NEEDS TO BE ADDITIONAL REMEDIATION. SO THEY'LL THEY'LL HAVE THEY'LL HAVE A YEAR OR SO TO DEVELOP A, A PLAN FOR THAT SOUTHERN HALF. SO THAT SOUTHERN HALF OF THE SITE IS THE SITE YOU SEE WHEN YOU'RE AT THE PROPERTY ROOM. OKAY. OKAY. THIS IS JIM BECKETT. OKAY. CAN I BE ADDED AS A SPONSOR CO-SPONSOR? ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN OWEN. THANK YOU. CHAIR. I AM SO HAPPY THAT THIS THIS IS FINALLY MOVING FORWARD. I HAVE I CAN REMEMBER AT LEAST 15 YEARS AGO, IF NOT 20, LONG BEFORE I HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH GOVERNMENT, THE THE CITY FLOATING THIS PROPERTY PAST ME AND SAYING, CAN YOU PLEASE TRY TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING TO DO WITH THIS? AND SO THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING, AND SO I'M EXCITED TO SEE ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE AND THAT'S STILL TO BE DONE. BUT THAT WHAT, WHAT CAN HAPPEN IS EXCITING. AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.

I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT I THINK I KNEW THIS AT ONE POINT, BUT THE THE SITE WAS CLEARLY CONTAMINATED. WAS WAS THERE NO CHAIN OF TITLE THAT IT WAS EVER WHERE WE WERE EVER ABLE TO CLAW BACK ANY OF THE REMEDIATION COSTS TO, YOU KNOW, TO THE ACTUAL RESPONSIBLE POLLUTER. DO YOU REMEMBER THE HISTORY OF THAT AT ALL? THAT I DON'T KNOW. SO THIS PROPERTY WAS BOUGHT AND IT WAS PUT IN THE FEDERAL PILOT, FEDERAL EPA BROWNFIELD PILOT PROGRAM IN THE LATE 90S. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT GAVE THE OWNER SOME PROTECTIONS. THERE ARE STILL SOME QUESTIONS AS TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE REMEDIATION ON THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE SITE AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR THAT. SO I'M NOT GOING TO RULE OUT WHAT WHAT OUR STRATEGY IS GOING TO BE AROUND THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO BE THE OWNER OF ALL THIS PROPERTY UNTIL WE ACTUALLY

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ENTER INTO A PURCHASE AGREEMENT. I THINK JUST GIVEN THE IMMEDIACY OF NEEDING TO DO SOMETHING ON THE SITE, AND THE FACT THAT WE HAD THE EPA DOLLARS TO TRY TO DO A DEMONSTRATION PROJECT ON A PRETTY GNARLY BROWNFIELD SITE, WE WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND PROPOSE THAT PROJECT AND TRY TO SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT. AND AGAIN, I THINK CHAIRMAN SAID IT GREAT. I KNOW COUNCILMAN LEONARD SAID IT GREAT TO THAT. THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS THAT HAS HAPPENED HERE. WHEN WE ENTERED INTO THIS, MY BIGGEST QUESTION MARK THAT I HAD WAS, HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET THE NEIGHBORHOOD ENGAGED ON THIS DEVELOPMENT AND SUPPORTIVE OF ANYTHING? AND I'VE SEEN A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS GO THROUGH, AND YOU ALL HAVE SEEN ME COME HERE AND TALK A LOT ABOUT DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER HAD PEOPLE ACTUALLY ANGRY AT ME FOR NOT GETTING THIS DONE FAST ENOUGH. SO, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTS GET GETTING, GETTING, YOU KNOW, ANGRY AT ME FOR NOT GETTING SOMETHING DONE FAST ENOUGH. SO I THINK THIS IS REALLY A TESTAMENT TO THE WORK THAT THAT GROUP DID. AND I THINK THAT'S BEEN THE FOCUS VERSUS TRYING TO CLAW BACK SOME DEVELOPMENT, SOME FUNDING ON THE NORTHERN HALF OF THE SITE, I THINK ON THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE SITE, THAT WOULD THAT WILL BE A QUESTION AND SOMETHING THAT WE EXPLORE. AND TO BE FAIR, I ONLY ASKED THAT PARTLY OUT OF CURIOSITY, BUT ALSO BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE WE AS A COMMUNITY OUGHT TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO MOVE FORWARD AND TRY TO RECLAIM THESE TYPES OF PROPERTIES. BUT WHAT I WAS WHAT I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT, THOUGH, IS THAT THERE ARE DIFFERENT KINDS OF THEFT AND CORPORATIONS WHO DESTROY LAND AND THEN LEAVE. THE COST OF THAT DESTRUCTION TO THE TAXPAYER IS A FORM OF THEFT. AND WHETHER THAT BE A MINE IN EASTERN KENTUCKY OR WHETHER THAT BE A AN URBAN PROPERTY IN THE CENTER OF DOWNTOWN LOUISVILLE OR ELSEWHERE, THAT IS CORPORATE THEFT. AND WE NEED TO CALL IT WHAT IT IS. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD EVER KEEP THAT, GET THAT, GET THAT, LET THAT GET IN THE WAY OF US MOVING FORWARD ON ON PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN THIS SITUATION. BUT THE FACT THAT THEY WERE LEFT IN THAT SITUATION IS A CRIME. THANK YOU. PREACH, COUNCILMAN HERNDON THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND I AGREE WITH THOSE SENTIMENTS EXACTLY. ALSO THRILLED FOR IN-TOWN INFILL ANYWHERE, ESPECIALLY FOR THIS USE. TWO QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SECOND PHASE. THEY'RE GOING TO BE APPROXIMATELY THE SAME NUMBER OF APARTMENTS IN THERE.

DO YOU THINK WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SECOND PHASE IS GOING TO BRING? THE THE THERE WAS A TANK FARM AT THE ON THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THAT PROPERTY. SO THE CONTAMINATION IS ACTUALLY WORSE ON THE SOUTHERN HALF THAN IT IS ON THE NORTHERN HALF. SO IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN REMEDIATE TO GET TO THAT RESIDENTIAL LEVEL. SO AND THE DEVELOPER HAS BEEN EXPLORING DIFFERENT OPTIONS, INCLUDING SOME WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, SOME JOB GENERATING USES THAT IS COMPATIBLE WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE ANY ANY PLAN. BUT THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS THE DEVELOPER IS WORKING THROUGH THAT WOULD BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE HOUSING ON THE NORTHERN HALF. OKAY. SECOND QUESTION IF YOU GET TO A NUMBER, IS ARE THERE FUNDS IN THE QUEUE SOMEWHERE. IS THAT GOING TO BE A THERE'S THERE'S NOT FUNDS SOMEWHERE. I WILL SAY THE ESTIMATE THAT WE HAD TO REMEDIATE THE FULL SITE IN 2020 OR 2021 WAS $18 MILLION. SO WE'RE IT COST US $8.7 MILLION, TO BE MORE PRECISE, ON THE NORTHERN HALF OF THE SITE. AND AGAIN, THAT PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY SIX ACRES. THE SOUTHERN HALF IS APPROXIMATELY 11 ACRES. SO THAT'LL WE'RE WE'RE ESTIMATING IT'S GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE IN THAT 9 TO $10 MILLION RANGE. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? COUNCILMAN. AGAIN WE CANNOT SAY ENOUGH ABOUT THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT HERE. AND JUST TO TACK ON AS A THOUGHT, IF WE DO HALF AS WELL WITH LMW-HA AS WE REDEVELOP PARKWAY PLACES THAT WE'VE DONE HERE WITH GETTING THE BUY IN FROM THE COMMUNITY, MAKING NEIGHBORS FEEL HEARD AND PROTECTING THE INTERESTS OF THE RESIDENTS OF THIS AREA. WE WILL. THAT WILL BE SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE COMMENDED FOR, AND I WOULD HOPE THAT WE CAN MEET THAT BAR OURSELVES. SORRY. APOLOGIES.

YES, COUNCILMAN BENSON. JEFF, WHAT? WHAT KIND OF CONCLUSION DO YOU WHAT WAS WHAT WAS THIS SITE FOR AT ONE TIME? PAINT SOLVENTS. SO MOSTLY WE HAVE HYDROCARBONS AND HYDROGEN THAT'S BASICALLY SOLVENT BASED VOLATILE ORGANIC COMPOUNDS AND HYDROCARBONS. SO THE PEOPLE WHO THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO MAY PAINT IN OUR COMMUNITY, IF WE LOOK BACK, WE TRIED NOT MAKE SURE THEY DIDN'T EVER MAKE PAINT HERE. RIGHT. MAKE IT IN CHINA OR SOMEPLACE ELSE. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT, BUT. WELL, I MEAN, YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU KNOW THAT AREA, YOU COULD USE IT FOR SOME MANUFACTURING, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY WANTED, YOU KNOW, IF IT WAS IF WE'RE FAVORABLE OF EMPLOYMENT AND TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE AND CREATING JOBS AND TRY TO TAKE

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INDUSTRIAL ZONING PROPERTY AND BRING IT BACK TO RESIDENTIAL KIND OF REALLY, YOU KNOW, A LONGER WAY. AND I MAYBE WE'RE EVENTUALLY HOPING THAT WE NEVER HAD NO MANUFACTURING, THAT WE MAY BE DOING IT IN OLDHAM COUNTY OR SOMEPLACE ELSE. I MEAN, I DON'T I DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND. I MEAN, I'VE, I, I KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MANUFACTURING AND MOST PEOPLE DON'T ALWAYS TRY TO MAKE LIFE MISERABLE FOR PEOPLE. YOU KNOW, THE FREE ENTERPRISE SYSTEM IS TRYING TO MAKE A, A DOLLAR AND, AND TRY TO CREATE MORE WEALTH FOR OTHER PEOPLE. BUT CORPORATIONS ARE EVIL. AND MAYBE WE OUGHT TO GET RID OF THEM ALL TOGETHER. I DON'T KNOW, THANKS. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO HAS TO SPEAK TO THIS? OKAY. CORPORATIONS ARE NOT EVIL, SO WE WANT AS MANY JOBS HERE AS WE CAN. WHAT WE DON'T WANT IS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE MANUFACTURING PAINT TO DUMP THE WHAT'S LEFT OVER. THAT'S TOXIC IN THE BACK OF THE FACILITY. AND THAT HAPPENED FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS, AND IT SHOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED. BUT THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED. IT'S NOT. IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THAT. WE'RE OPEN FOR BUSINESS IN LOUISVILLE AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE. THIS IS ITEM REQUIRES A VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. THOSE OPPOSED.

ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. CAN I NOW? OKAY. SORRY. SORRY,

[Adjournment Note: Agendas are followed at the discretion of the Chair. While an item may be listed, it does not mean all items will be heard and/or acted upon by the Committee.]

JEFF. SEEING NO OBJECTION, WE STAND ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. I KNOW IT WAS

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.