[1. ID 25-0641 FILM STUDIES COLLABORATION INITIATIVE – Moira Scott Payne, KyCAD; Denise O'Donnell, KyCAD; and Jessica Kincaid, Office of Arts + Creative Industries]

IN THE BUDGET OVER THE SUMMER THAT A PORTION OF THE OF THE BUDGET WAS GOING TO BE EXPENDED THROUGH THE KENTUCKY COLLEGE OF ART AND DESIGN, AND WE KNEW THAT THERE WAS WORK BEING DONE AT LOUISVILLE GARDENS WITH FILM AND FILM STUDY WAS REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE WORK THEY'RE DOING AND THAT NEW SPACE, THE NEW WORK THEY'RE DOING IN THAT SPACE, I SHOULD SAY. AND SO IT SEEMED A NATURAL FIT THAT THAT PARTNERSHIP WOULD GO FORWARD. WHEN WE REACHED OUT, WE FOUND OUT THAT THERE WERE ALREADY CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT. SO IT'S NOT LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE PUSHED ANYTHING INTO INTO EXISTENCE, BUT WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITIES THERE.

AND SO WE'VE ASKED THEM TO COME FORWARD AND SHARE WITH US SOME OF THEIR THOUGHTS. SO, MAURA, IF YOU'LL COME FORWARD, IF YOU WANT TO BE JOINED BY ANYONE ELSE, THERE'S A SECOND CHAIR THERE, IF YOU'D LIKE. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A SHORT PRESENTATION, SO UNFORTUNATELY WE ARE KIND OF TIGHT FOR TIME. SO IF YOU DON'T MIND. THANK YOU. AND IF YOU IF THE TWO OF YOU WOULD INTRODUCE YOURSELVES FOR THE RECORD PLEASE. SO. MARAS WAS. THANK YOU. OKAY. IF YOU DON'T MIND AGAIN, I GOT ONE, BUT NOT THE OTHER. SO, MARA, IF YOU DON'T MIND. OKAY. MAURA PAYNE, I'M THE PRESIDENT OF KENTUCKY COLLEGE OF ART AND DESIGN. I'M MARY KAY POH. I AM A LOCAL PARTNER IN THE LOUISVILLE STUDIOS AT THE GARDENS, FORMERLY KNOWN AS LOUISVILLE GARDENS. THANKS. WELCOME. WE'RE GLAD YOU'RE HERE. THANK YOU.

THE FLOOR IS YOURS. THANK YOU. CHAIR CRAMER. COUNCILWOMAN. COUNCILMEN, THANKS VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY. SO WE'VE COME TODAY TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE REQUIRED PART OF THE GRANT THAT YOU GENEROUSLY VOTED THROUGH FOR US RECENTLY. THE REQUIREMENT WAS THAT WE WOULD PARTNER WITH LOUISVILLE GARDENS, THAT KENTUCKY COLLEGE OF ART AND DESIGN AND LOUISVILLE GARDENS WOULD PARTNER. WE QUICKLY. WE QUICKLY HAD MANY MEETINGS AND DISCUSSIONS TO FIND OUR COMMON GROUND AND REALIZE THAT WE WERE BOTH VERY INTERESTED IN WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT. FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, WE WERE LOOKING AT HOW WE WOULD BRING THE RURAL LEARNER INTO THE CITY TO COME AND BE PART OF OUR NEW FILM PROGRAM, AND LOUISVILLE GARDENS WAS VERY INTERESTED IN LOOKING AT HOW THEY WOULD DEVELOP PIPELINES TO A WORKFORCE FOR A DEVELOPING FILM OPPORTUNITY. SO, YOU KNOW, WE QUICKLY CAME TO A POINT WHERE WE UNDERSTOOD THAT WE WERE BOTH LOOKING AT HOW WE GOT OUT ACROSS KENTUCKY, AND WE DECIDED THEN THAT A MOBILE STUDIO MIGHT BE THE WAY FOR US TO WORK TOGETHER. DO WE? SHOULD I KEEP GOING? OKAY. SO THAT WE A MOBILE STUDIO? JUST A BRIEF PAUSE. WE'LL LET THIS RUN ITS COURSE. THE 911 LINES ARE. BACK UP AND RUNNING, SO SORRY ABOUT THAT. THAT'S EVERYBODY'S PHONE IN THE PLACE. THAT'S OKAY. SO WE WE WERE WE BEGAN TO WORK ON A MOBILE STUDIO THAT WOULD GET OUT ACROSS KENTUCKY AND BRING YOUNG PEOPLE INTO AN OPPORTUNITY HERE IN LOUISVILLE.

AND WE DEVELOPED AN IDEA CALLED FLICKERED. AND SO WE HAVE NOW DEVELOPED A MOBILE FILM STUDIO

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THAT WILL BE MOVING OUT INTO THE HIGH SCHOOLS, THE CITY CENTERS, THE COMMUNITY CENTERS ACROSS KENTUCKY, MAKING EVERYBODY AWARE, BRINGING THAT EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITY TO EVERYONE, RURAL SCHOOLS, SMALL HIGH SCHOOLS, MIDDLE SCHOOLS AND AND SORT OF GENERATING THE EXCITEMENT THAT AND SHARING IT, REALLY TAKING THE EXCITEMENT FROM THIS CITY OUT ACROSS KENTUCKY. SO YOU KNOW, FOR US IT'S AN ADMISSIONS TOOL. AND FOR MARY KAY AND LOUISVILLE GARDENS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT MARY KAY. NO, IT'S I MEAN, I CAN YOU KNOW, LOUISVILLE GARDENS IS PROBABLY DUE TO OPEN IN 27 AND WE HOPE TO HAVE PROJECTS LINED UP. WE CANNOT HAVE THAT WITHOUT A HEALTHY CREW BASE. WE CAN'T HAVE A HEALTHY CREW BASE WITHOUT EDUCATED CREW MEMBERS. SO WE WERE WORKING IN ANTICIPATION OF THAT. AND SO WE'VE DONE QUITE A LOT OF WORK TOGETHER. THE VAN IS ALREADY UNDER CONSTRUCTION HERE. WE HAVE. THANK YOU. TO BE HANDS OFF. I THINK IT'S FINE. EVERYONE'S GOT A COPY OF THAT.

I THINK EVERYONE HAS A COPY. SO IF YOU NEED IT. I DON'T THINK SO. I THINK WE'RE GOOD. THANK YOU FOR FOR HELPING ME. ACTUALLY, THIS SLIDE DECK IS ON THE ATTACHMENT. SO IF FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THE SLIDE DECK IT'S ON THE IT'S ON THE AGENDA. SO YOU KNOW I DO WANT TO REPORT THAT WE'RE MOVING QUICKLY WITH THE FILM PROGRAM THAT THE FUNDING WAS GIVEN FOR. WE HAVE IN THE LAST THREE WEEKS, RECEIVED SACSCOC APPROVAL FOR A NEW BFA IN FILM HERE IN LOUISVILLE. AND SO THAT'S PRETTY EXCITING DEVELOPMENT. WE WE TOOK PART IN A FULL NATIONAL SEARCH FOR A CHAIR OF FILM, AND WE NOW HAVE OUR NEW FILM CHAIR SITTING BEHIND ME, LYLE BUSH, WHO CAME FROM SEATTLE TO WORK WITH US HERE AND HAS MOVED TO LOUISVILLE FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY, BRINGING LOTS OF ENERGY AND KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE WE HAVE. WE'RE WORKING IN OUR COLLABORATION. AND ALTHOUGH LOUISVILLE GARDENS AND WE ARE BUILDING THIS MOBILE STUDIO TOGETHER, IT'S CLEAR THAT THERE ARE MANY STAKEHOLDERS NOW INTERESTED IN FILM IN THIS CITY ACROSS THE STATE. AND SO WE'VE BEEN NOW INVITED INTO THESE WONDERFUL CONVERSATIONS WITH MANY DIFFERENT GROUPS AND PARTIES, TECHNICAL COLLEGES, SCHOOL GROUPS, COMMUNITY GROUPS. THAT'S A PRETTY EXCITING SPACE FOR US TO BE WORKING IN. SO I THINK WE'RE WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT TWO PLUS TWO OPPORTUNITIES WITH THE TECHNICAL COLLEGES.

AND I THINK JUST GETTING FILM OUT BEYOND LOUISVILLE WILL ACTUALLY GENERATE A LOT OF EXCITEMENT AND ENERGY HERE IN LOUISVILLE. SO I'M OPEN TO THAT'S IT. VERY BRIEFLY, I KNOW WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO KEEP IT BRIEF, BUT I HAVE DATA AND, YOU KNOW, I'M READY FOR ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING THAT YOU'D LIKE FURTHER INFORMATION ON. THANK YOU. MARA. COUNCILMAN WINKLER YEAH, THANK YOU. AND THANKS FOR BEING HERE. AND THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I'M SORRY WE HAD SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES. WE COULDN'T PULL IT UP. BUT I WANT TO COMMEND YOU ON THIS WORK. I MEAN, I THINK, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE CITY AND CERTAINLY TO THE STATE THROUGH THE WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE, IS DIVERSIFYING OUR INDUSTRIES. YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF GROWTH IN THE FILM INDUSTRY AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'VE GOT THE EDUCATIONAL PIPELINE THAT ALLOWS THAT INDUSTRY TO GROW AND FLOURISH AND NOT JUST BE SORT OF A, YOU KNOW, WE GET A PROJECT HERE, WE GET A PROJECT THERE. BUT WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN INDUSTRY I THINK IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT. I ALSO WANT TO COMMEND THE PARTNERSHIP OUTSIDE OF JUST LOUISVILLE. CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, WE HEAR VERY MUCH FOCUSED ON LOUISVILLE. BUT I THINK ANYTIME THAT WE'VE GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPORT EXPERTISE TO THE REST OF THE STATE, THAT ONLY FURTHER ENHANCES OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITIES AND COUNTIES ACROSS THE COMMONWEALTH. AND SO I WANT TO COMMEND YOU ON, ON BOTH OF THOSE, BOTH OF THOSE NAMES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CAN I BE ADDED TO THE QUEUE? I'M NOT LOGGED IN. YES, MA'AM. COUNCILWOMAN PERISH. RIGHT.

THANK YOU. I DO WANT TO ECHO WHAT COUNCILWOMAN COUNCILMAN WINKLER SAID, BUT ALSO, THE LAST TWO BUDGET CYCLES, I HAVE BEEN CRITICAL OF THE MONIES THAT WENT TO YOU ALL AND JUST VERY OUT FRONT BECAUSE PEOPLE EMAILED AND CONTACTED US ABOUT NOT FOLKS NOT GETTING DEGREES OR NOT HAVING CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE IT'S GOING. SO I DO APPRECIATE THIS PRESENTATION AND THE ATTACHMENTS AND HOW YOU'RE TRYING TO COME TO US BEFOREHAND AND BE MORE TRANSPARENT. I WILL TELL YOU, AS ONE OF THE YOUNGEST, I DON'T THINK I'M THE YOUNGEST, BUT NEWEST PEOPLE ON THE COUNCIL. WHEN I FIRST SAW THE BUDGET ALLOTMENTS, IT DID ALARM ME BECAUSE WE HAD A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE TOOK AWAY FROM, AND THEN I WANTED TO MAKE

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SURE THAT THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS CONNECTING TO MORE PEOPLE. AND BUILDING THIS MAKES MAKES SENSE. ALSO, HEARING THE CONNECTION TO THE RURAL COMMUNITIES, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO COME FROM ALL OVER THE STATE TO COME TO LOUISVILLE AND TO HAVE THIS CONNECTION TO THE ARTS IS GREAT, AND IT'S GREAT TO HEAR THAT YOU'VE BROUGHT IN PEOPLE FROM OTHER PLACES AND THAT YOU'VE YOU'VE STATIONED HERE TO MAKE IT BETTER. SO I'M STILL GOING TO BE LOOKING AND WANT TO HEAR MORE AND FOLLOW IT THROUGH, BUT THIS DOES GIVE MORE CLARITY.

THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. AM I ALLOWED TO RESPOND TO THE COMMENTS, CHAIRMAN? CERTAINLY, CERTAINLY I CAN. THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, I THINK WE HAVE SOME LOVELY STORIES TO TELL YOU. REALLY, I WOULD LOVE YOU TO COME AND SEE SOME OF THE SUCCESS STORIES, BECAUSE I THINK YOU'LL SEE HOW SORT OF GRASSROOTS EDUCATION CHANGES LIVES. I KNOW, I KNOW, WE'RE SMALL, BUT I'M HOPING THAT YOU'RE MAKING AN INVESTMENT IN A VERY SUCCESSFUL FUTURE FOR MANY YOUNG, CREATIVE PEOPLE IN OUR CITY AND STATE. SO THANK YOU. MAY I SPEAK TO THAT FOR JUST A MOMENT DIRECTLY TO THIS? WE'RE TRYING TO OPTIMIZE THE GENEROUS GRANT FROM YOU. WE'VE PARTNERED WITH VOLUNTEERS OF AMERICA, SOME OTHERS WHO HAVE GOTTEN SIMILAR PRIVATE GRANTS, AND WE'RE STARTING WITH A, A CLASS OR PROGRAM THAT IS JUST AN INTRODUCTORY. WE THINK THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU CAN COME FROM WHEREVER YOU ARE AND GET A JOB IN THIS INDUSTRY, AND IT'S NOT A FOUR YEAR DEGREE THAT YOU COME OUT TO BE A DIRECTOR. BUT WE DO NEED PEOPLE FOR YOU, UNSKILLED, SEMI-SKILLED THAT WE CAN TRAIN UP VERY QUICKLY. AND THE PILOT PROGRAM OF THAT JOINT VENTURE WILL BE IN METRO LOUISVILLE.

PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS. SO WE ARE KIND OF IDENTIFYING OTHER, YOU KNOW, THE SECOND CHANCE POPULATION, SOME OF THESE OTHER POPULATIONS THAT WE ARE GOING TO INTEGRATE INTO THIS PROGRAM AS WELL. AND THE PILOT PROGRAM WILL BE HERE IN METRO LOUISVILLE. AND THEN WE HAVE OTHER STOPS THROUGHOUT THE STATE THAT HAVE ALREADY EXPRESSED INTEREST. COUNCILMAN OWEN, THANK YOU. CHAIR. COUNCILMAN WINKLER SPOKE ELOQUENTLY ABOUT THE INDUSTRY AND AND REFLECTED MY OPTIMISM AND EXCITEMENT ABOUT THE INDUSTRY. SO I WON'T GO DOWN THAT ROAD, BUT I WANT TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT ANGLE. EVERYBODY ALWAYS LAUGHS AND SAYS, YOU KNOW, I WENT TO GET AN ART DEGREE. AND SO I COULDN'T EVER GET A JOB. RIGHT? BECAUSE NOBODY CAN GET A JOB WITH AN ART DEGREE. WELL, THAT'S THE THOUGHT PROCESS. AND I JUST WANT TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE. I HAVE A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE HERE IN LOUISVILLE, HAS AN ART DEGREE, AND HE HAS TAKEN WHAT HE DOES FOR A LIVING, IS TAKES TECHNOLOGIES FROM THE RESEARCH STAGE THROUGH TO CREATING PRODUCTS AND COMPANIES FOR COMMERCIAL USE. AND IN THAT PROCESS, HE HAS SUCCESSFULLY DESIGNED MANUFACTURING LINES.

AND SO I THINK TO THINK ABOUT HAVING AN ART DEGREE AND THINKING THAT IT'S LIMITED TO PAINTING OR, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, I THINK IS IS A LIMITED THOUGHT PROCESS, NUMBER ONE. BUT NUMBER TWO, IF ANY OF YOU ALL HASN'T GONE TO CYCADS FACILITY AND HAD MORE OF A TALK TO YOU ALL ABOUT THEIR KIND OF THE PIPELINE FROM FROM THEIR PROGRAM INTO THE WORKFORCE AND HOW SUCCESSFUL THAT CAN BE AND IS. YOU SHOULD TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT, ESPECIALLY IN TECHNOLOGY FIELDS THERE. IT'S REALLY FASCINATING FOR FOR HER TO TO TO IT WOULD BE FASCINATING. I THINK IT WAS FOR ME FOR HER TO WALK YOU GUYS THROUGH THAT SAME PROCESS. IT REALLY THERE IS A LOT MORE THERE THAN JUST DRAWING, PAINTING, YOU KNOW, THAT SORT OF THING. THERE REALLY IS WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT. SO I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT HERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE RECORD. REFLECT THAT. WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL. SHE JOINED A WHILE AGO. NO ONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE. SO A COUPLE COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS. I'M CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC. I'VE BEEN TO A COUPLE DIFFERENT TIMES IN LA AND I'VE HAD A COUPLE, I THINK PRETTY GOOD CONVERSATIONS BACK AND FORTH. NOT BEING ACCREDITED IN MY MIND WAS PROBLEMATIC, AND SO THAT I STRUGGLED WITH WHERE WE WOULD END UP. THEY HAVE SINCE BEEN ACCREDITED AND SO WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, STILL LOOKING AT A FAIRLY SMALL NUMBER OF STUDENTS, BUT IT'S A BRAND NEW UNIVERSITY.

AND, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE MENTIONED EARLIER THAT, YOU KNOW, FOLKS WERE GOING THROUGH

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THE SCHOOL BUT NOT GETTING A DEGREE. WELL, IT'S HARD TO GET A DEGREE THAT'S WORTH ANYTHING IF YOU'RE NOT AT AN ACCREDITED SCHOOL. SO THEY ARE ACCREDITED. DEGREE ACTUALLY COUNTS FOR SOMETHING. NOW THEY'RE LOOKING AT TO COUNCILMAN NOLAN'S POINT, THERE ARE SOME SPECIFIC ART RELATED PROFESSIONS THOUGH BEYOND AND I'M NOT I DON'T MEAN TO CHALLENGE OR TAKE AWAY FROM ANYTHING BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S ON THE CURRICULUM AT KCAD, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THINGS LIKE FASHION THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT AND WHICH, BY THE WAY, LEADS INTO THE FASHION INDUSTRY, NOT JUST WE'RE DESIGNING CLOTHES BECAUSE IT'S FUN, BUT THERE'S THERE IS MONEY TO BE MADE THERE. THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT MOVING INTO FILM, WHICH IS THE REASON WE'RE HERE TODAY, TALKING ABOUT ART AND DESIGN AS FAR AS MARKETING AND ADVERTISING. SO THERE'S THERE THERE IS MONEY TO BE MADE IN THAT. I KNOW EVERY EVERY FATHER FREAKS OUT WHEN HIS DAUGHTER SAYS SHE WANTS TO GO INTO ART, BUT THERE IS MONEY TO BE MADE THERE AND OR THERE'S A PROFESSION IN IT, I GUESS I SHOULD SAY. AND MY TREPIDATION IS EASED SOME WITH THIS ACCREDITATION AND THE FACT THAT NOW WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO SEE, I THINK, THE KIND OF MOVEMENT THAT WE'RE ALL LOOKING FORWARD TO, IT'S I'M CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC BECAUSE THIS, THIS ACCREDITATION AND THE GROWTH OF CASCADE IS COMING IN CONCERT AND IN TIMING PARALLEL WITH WHAT WE'RE SEEING HAPPEN AT LOUISVILLE GARDENS. SO THAT'S KIND OF EXCITING FOR US, TOO, I THINK. I HOPE THAT'S FINGERS CROSSED. THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I'M, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTIVE OF THIS. I DO HAVE A QUESTION, THOUGH. AND AS MUCH AS, YOU KNOW, WE WERE LOOKING AT HOW DO YOU SEE THIS GOING AND WHAT DO YOU THINK IS IS COMING NEXT? AND AND ALWAYS RIGHT. IF YOU CAN DO SOMETHING WELL, YOU SHOULD HAVE LOFTY GOALS. THE GOAL IS 15 1500 TO 2000 STUDENTS PER SEMESTER, 4000 STUDENTS A YEAR. BUT YOU'RE PROJECTED FOR 27 IS 14 AND 26 FOR 28 AND 40 FOR 29, 57 FOR 30. SO I DON'T I'M TRYING I'M STRUGGLING. HOW DO YOU GET FROM 57 IN 20 30 TO 1500. SO THE 1500 IS THE MOBILE STUDIO BECAUSE IT WILL MAKE CONTACT WITH STUDENTS FOR SHORT CLASSES. SO THEY WILL NOT BE, YOU KNOW, 2000 OF OUR STUDENTS. OUR GOAL IS 300 STUDENTS, FULL TIME STUDENTS. OKAY. AND YOU KNOW WHAT'S QUITE INTERESTING IS THAT THAT NOW WE'RE ACCREDITED, WE HAVE SIX NEW PROGRAMS. THEY'VE JUST BEEN CLEARED BY SACS. THEY'LL BE READY BY 26. ALREADY. THE INTEREST IN OUR OPEN DAYS IS RISING. SO THE NEW PROGRAMS ARE BRINGING PEOPLE IN. WE'RE DOING CUTTING EDGE PROGRAMS. WE'VE GOT A PROGRAM ON SENSORY ARTS PERFUME, WHICH THERE'S ONLY ONE OTHER IN NEW YORK. IN THE US. WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, I THINK PROGRAMS THAT MEAN A LOT TO YOUNG PEOPLE, LIKE TATTOOING AND BODY ART. WE'RE BRINGING THAT INTO THE MAINSTREAM. AND THAT'S CONTROVERSIAL. IT'S DARING, IT'S BOLD FOR A COLLEGE, FOR AN ART COLLEGE. AND SO WE'RE COMING BEHIND THAT BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE? DRAWING, DRAWING ON THE BODY. IT'S QUITE AN IMPORTANT AND INTERESTING CULTURAL PROCESS THAT MANY, MANY PEOPLE ARE NOW INVOLVED IN. AND IT'S BIG BUSINESS. SO WE'RE ON IT. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO BE INNOVATIVE. WE'RE TRYING TO LISTEN TO YOUNG PEOPLE, YOUNG CREATIVE PEOPLE, AND LOOKING AT WHAT THEY NEED. AND NOWADAYS ART SCHOOLS ARE A DIFFERENT PLACE. YOU KNOW, THEY THEY REALLY DO. YOU YOU GET JOBS AFTER YOU'VE BEEN TO A DECENT COLLEGE OF ART AND DESIGN WHERE YOU ARE, YOU KNOW, TAKEN THROUGH PROFESSIONAL STUDIES. THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE HUGE FOR ARTISTS, ESPECIALLY WITH NEW DIGITAL TECHNOLOGIES. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT DIGITAL FABRICATION. WE'RE HOPING TO WORK WITH MANUFACTURING INDUSTRIES. SO WE'VE GOT IT ALL GOING ON. WE ARE SMALL AND WE SO NEED YOUR SUPPORT AND YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT BECAUSE WE WE REALLY ARE MAKING A DIFFERENCE. AND I REALLY WOULD LOVE YOU TO COME AND SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING.

SO THANK YOU. I'M THERE'S A LOT IN THERE. AND THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION ABOUT THE 1500 STUDENTS, HERE'S WHAT I PULLED OUT. CORRECT ME IF I GOT THAT WRONG. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU AND LOUISVILLE GARDENS HAVE TALKED ABOUT IS THE IMPORTANCE OF WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT. YEAH.

AND I HEAR YOU SAYING THAT YOU ANTICIPATE BEING ABLE TO WORK WITH FOLKS TO DEVELOP SKILLS THAT MAY NOT REQUIRE A DEGREE, BUT THAT WOULD STILL BE RIGHT UP YOUR ALLEY IN TERMS OF GETTING THEM CONNECTED INTO THE TO THE RIGHT KINDS OF PROGRAMS, GIVING THEM SKILL SET THEY NEED IN THE NOW SO THAT THEY COULD START WORK IN THAT INDUSTRY. IN LOUISVILLE, GARDENS WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THE BENEFIT TOMORROW INSTEAD OF FOUR YEARS FROM NOW. THERE'S AN INTERESTING SPACE BETWEEN. YES, ABSOLUTELY. AND THERE'S AN INTERESTING SPACE BETWEEN TECHNICAL COLLEGES AND HIGHER EDUCATION. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GROWING TOGETHER TO MEET IN THE MIDDLE. AND, YOU KNOW, IT IS WRONG FOR HIGHER EDUCATION NOT TO TAKE ON THE REALITY OF PEOPLE'S LIVES AND AND SKILLS ARE NEEDED. AND SO WE'RE HOPING TO DEMONSTRATE THAT WE CAN BE IN THAT IN BETWEEN SPACE, AS WELL AS THE SPACE OF SORT OF HIGHER EDUCATION AND LEARNING

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RESEARCH. AND THEN RESEARCH WILL LINK TO THE INDUSTRIES. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DEMONSTRABLE NUMBER IS, BUT I'M SURE THERE'S ONE THAT SHOWS THAT A PERSON WHO WENT FOR A SPECIFIC SKILL SET OR SPECIFIC KIND, OF COURSE, ENDED UP COMING BACK LATER AND STARTED WORK ON A DEGREE. SO I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING TO BE SAID FOR BEING IN THAT SPACE. AND AGAIN, IT'S THANK YOU. WE'RE GLAD TO HEAR THAT YOU'RE WORKING SO WELL WITH LOUISVILLE GARDENS. YES, COUNCILWOMAN RAYMOND. YES. THANK YOU. I'M A VISITOR TODAY, SO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO ASK MY QUESTION. I WANTED TO ASK YOU ALL ABOUT THE COST FOR STUDENTS. AND THEN IF THE ACCREDITATION MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR YOU ALL TO ACCEPT FINANCIAL AID. YOU KNOW, THERE IS THE QUESTION WE HAVE. WE ARE STILL FULLY SCHOLARSHIP OUR STUDENTS BECAUSE THROUGH NO FAULT OF OUR OWN, WE ARE STRUGGLING WITH THE SOFTWARE FOR FEDERAL FINANCIAL AID.

WE'RE SUCH A RARE BIRD. THERE ARE NOT VERY MANY NEW COLLEGES ACROSS THE STATE, ACROSS THIS STATE FOR SURE, AND WE'RE WORKING REALLY HARD TO GET OUR FEDERAL FINANCIAL AID OFFICE UP AND RUNNING. WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN ELIGIBLE SINCE 23 WHEN WE WERE IN CANDIDACY. SO WE'RE GOING INTO OUR THIRD YEAR AND ARE STILL NOT. SO WE'RE WORKING WITH MORGAN MCGARVEY, MITCH MCCONNELL, LOBBYISTS, SACSCOC ACAD, WHERE, YOU KNOW, SHORT OF CAMPING ON THE GROUNDS IN WASHINGTON, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST WE'RE PUSHING REALLY HARD BECAUSE IT'S CRUCIAL TO US. SO WE'RE WORKING REALLY HARD TO MAKE THAT AVAILABLE TO OUR STUDENTS. MEANWHILE, WE HAVE LET THEM KNOW THAT WE WILL NOT BE CHARGING THEM TUITION UNTIL WE GET THAT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT FAIR. YOU KNOW, THEY CAN'T, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD ENOUGH FOR THEM TO COME TO A COLLEGE AND NOT PAY ANYTHING, BUT STILL HAVE TO RUSH AND GO AND DO A JOB SO THAT THEY CAN PAY THEIR RENT AND EAT. AND SO THEY'RE UNDER A LOT OF PRESSURE AND WE REALLY NEED THIS. BUT WE'RE WE'VE TRIED WE'RE TRYING EVERYTHING. WE'RE ON IT. AND FINANCIAL AID IS CHANGING EVERY MONTH. THIS IS THE TERRIFYING THING I KNOW THAT. SO EVERY STUDENT RIGHT NOW IS ATTENDING ON SCHOLARSHIP REGARDLESS OF THEIR FINANCIAL NEED. THAT'S RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, TWO MORE QUESTIONS AND THEN WE'LL WE'LL MOVE ON. I KNOW YOU HAVE FUNDING FROM US. I KNOW YOU HAVE SOME GRANT FUNDING, SOME SOME FUNDING THAT CAME IN FROM THE STATE. YES. AND YOU'RE NOT CHARGING TUITION. SO OTHER THAN THE STATE MONEY, I THINK IT'S THE BROWN FAMILY. IF I'VE GOT THAT, THEY HAVE BEEN INCREDIBLE. GRANT AND THEN METRO LOUISVILLE, CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR OTHER SOURCES OF REVENUE? OUR OTHER SOURCES OF REVENUE HAVE BEEN SMALLER GRANTS, YOU KNOW, SORT OF LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, JUST SMALL THINGS, APPLYING FOR GRANTS, FOR SIGNAGE, APPLYING FOR GRANTS FOR STUDENT STUDY ABROAD. WE WERE AN ANONYMOUS DONOR, CAME FORWARD TO FUND ALL OF OUR STUDENTS TO GO TO THE VENICE BIENNALE THIS YEAR. AND THAT WILL CHANGE LIVES. AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT SMALL GRANTS, BUT WE ARE ANXIOUS ABOUT HOW WE SUSTAIN OURSELVES WITHOUT FEDERAL FINANCIAL AID. IT IS A SERIOUS ISSUE FOR US. YEAH.

GREAT. THANK YOU. AND THEN AND I DON'T KNOW WHICH WE DIDN'T USE A QUESTION MORE FOR, BUT SO LOUISVILLE GARDENS IS OURS OBVIOUSLY. BUT THE GOAL IN ALL OF THIS, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IS THAT WE WILL HAVE FOLKS WHO WILL COME IN AND USE OUR SPACE TO PRODUCE COMMERCIALS, MOVIES, WHATEVER. RIGHT? SO THEY WILL BE TENANTS. THEY WILL BE TENANTS. INNOCENCE. WHAT IS THAT GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE KENTUCKY COLLEGE OF ART AND DESIGN WHEN IT COMES TO WORKING WITH TENANTS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WILL GO THROUGH LOUISVILLE GARDENS, OR HOW WILL THAT WORK? YEAH, LOUISVILLE GARDENS, THE IS KIND OF A LANDLORD. IT PROVIDES THE FACILITY. SO WHILE THEY HAVE A FEW DIRECT EMPLOYEES, WE'LL HAVE A FEW ACTUALLY MORE OF A FACILITATOR. FOR EXAMPLE, THERE WAS JUST A A FILM RIGHT NOW YOU THE STATE CAN HANDLE MAYBE LIKE, OH, THE SWEET SPOT IS LIKE A $5 MILLION INDIE FILM BECAUSE WE HAVE THE INCENTIVE. BUT YOU NEED INFRASTRUCTURE AND YOU NEED WORKFORCE. THOSE ARE THE THREE LEGS OF THE STOOL TO SUPPORT THE. SO WHAT WE'LL HAVE THROUGH THERE, OBVIOUSLY WE'VE GOT THE INCENTIVE AND THEN THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEN THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT WILL BE.

YOU THROUGH A THESE STUDENTS WHO WILL HAVE APPRENTICESHIPS. AND WHILE THAT MAY NOT COME DIRECTLY FROM THE GARDENS ITSELF, THAT IT WILL BE AVAILABLE TO THE TENANTS, FOR EXAMPLE, AS I SAY, WE JUST LOST A $30 MILLION STUDIO FILM BECAUSE IN PART BECAUSE WE COULD NOT MEET THE 800 CREW BASE OF KENTUCKY RESIDENTS THAT THEY HAD IN THEIR PROPOSAL. SO

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THIS, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY IN THAT YEAR IS WHAT WE WANT TO GROW TO SO THAT THOSE PEOPLE ARE AVAILABLE IN THE STATE. THEY'RE ELIGIBLE FOR THE EXTRA 5% THAT THE STATE OFFERS. AND HOPEFULLY, THIS GROUP WILL BE READY TO TAKE ON FULL TIME JOBS, BUT THEN OFFER APPRENTICESHIPS AND FURTHER INCENTIVIZE THOSE ALSO, INTERNSHIPS, YOU KNOW, LIKE A PART OF OUR PROGRAM WILL BE THAT STUDENTS, YOU KNOW, HAVE TO GO THROUGH WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT. ALL OF OUR STUDENTS DO, NO MATTER WHAT THEY'RE STUDYING. YOU KNOW, WE DO THIS SORT OF CITIES CAMPUS.

COMMONWEALTH IS CAMPUS, AND WE GET OUR STUDENTS OUT INTO REAL LIFE SITUATIONS. SO INTERNSHIPS THEY DO AT THE MOMENT. ONE, TWO. SOME OF THEM DO THREE INTERNSHIPS. SO THEY GET OUT THERE. YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO QUALIFY THAT IT WOULD NOT BE THE GARDENS THAT WERE ACTUALLY HIRING THOSE 800. HOWEVER, WITHOUT THAT FACILITY, WE WE CANNOT DRAW THAT SIZE OF A PROJECT. WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY THOUGH, IS IT WOULD BE THAT PUTS YOU KIND OF I DON'T WANT TO SAY PUT YOU IN THE MIDDLE. ALTHOUGH THAT MIGHT NOT BE THE WRONG LANGUAGE. IT PUTS YOU IN A POSITION WHERE YOU WILL BE COMMUNICATING WITH THE THE RENT. THE TENANT WHO HAS THIS STIPULATION THEY NEED THIS MANY, AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO GO TO THAT AND SAY, HERE'S WHAT THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT NEED IS. IS THERE ANY WAY YOU GUYS CAN PROVIDE THIS? AND THEN YOU COULD KIND OF BE, I GUESS THE THE MIDDLEMAN, THE ONE. NO. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

AND THAT'S ALL STRUCTURED IN THAT THAT'S THE STRUCTURE PROGRAM. GREAT. THAT'S MY QUESTION. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. SEEING NO OTHER QUESTIONS A QUICK READ OF THE ORDINANCE IF ANYBODY IS IF ANYBODY JOHN. Q PUBLIC IS IS CURIOUS ABOUT HOW THIS GOES. A QUICK READ OF THE ORDINANCE SAYS THAT BEFORE KENTUCKY COLLEGE OF ART AND DESIGN COULD SPEND ANY OF THE GRANT MONEY THAT THEY WERE APPROPRIATED IN THE BUDGET OVER THE SUMMER, THEY WERE REQUIRED TO COME BACK TO US, TO THE BUDGET COMMITTEE AND OFFER A PRESENTATION SO THAT WE WOULD HAVE A STRONG SENSE OF WHERE THE MONEY WAS BEING SPENT, HOW THAT ALLOCATION WAS GOING TO BE USED, AND THAT WE COULD FEEL GOOD ABOUT WHAT WAS HAPPENING NEXT. NOTHING IN THE BUDGET LANGUAGE REQUIRES ANY ACTION ON OUR PART. THE ACTION WAS PURELY ON THEIRS. BY MY ESTIMATION.

THEY'VE NOW MET THEIR OBLIGATION. AND SO FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, THE FUNDING SHOULD BE FREED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GREAT. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THANKS. YOU BET. TAKE CARE. AND I CONCUR. I CHECKED WITH MY VICE CHAIR, VICE CHAIR OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE, JUST TO BE SURE. I DON'T WANT TO SCREW THAT UP. SO IF I WAS WRONG, I'M BLAMING IT ON COUNCILMAN

[2. O-271-25 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING LOUISVILLE METRO CODE OF ORDINANCES (“LMCO”) SECTIONS 32.129 AND 32.140 REGARDING THE LOUISVILLE POLICEMEN’S RETIREMENT FUND. Action Required By: April 30, 2026 Sponsors: Ginny Mulvey-Woolridge (R-24) ]

WINKLER. OKAY, THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ORDINANCE TWO 7125. IT IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING LOUISVILLE METRO CODE OF ORDINANCES, SECTIONS 32.1, 29 AND 32.1 40 REGARDING THE LOUISVILLE POLICEMAN'S RETIREMENT FUND. THIS IS SECOND. RIGHT. THANK YOU. SPONSORED BY COUNCILWOMAN WOOLRIDGE. I'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS, PLEASE. SO THANK YOU, CHAIR. I DO HAVE THE HONOR OF SERVING ON THE LOUISVILLE POLICE RETIREMENT FUND BOARD. AND OVER THE LAST TEN MONTHS OF SERVING ON THAT BOARD, ACTUALLY, WHEN I JOINED, I WAS SURPRISED THAT THIS ORDINANCE AND THE FUNDS THAT COME TO IT COME FROM 1985, WHEN THIS FUND WAS ORIGINALLY IN PLACE. RIGHT NOW, THE THIS ORDINANCE WOULD UPDATE THE LANGUAGE THAT CURRENTLY SAYS THAT THE LIABILITY AMORTIZED OVER 30 YEARS OF THE ACTUAL ACTUARIAL ASSUMPTIONS AND 15 YEARS FOR THE ACTUARIAL GAINS AND LOSSES, THEN THE ORDINANCE RIGHT NOW PROPOSES THAT THE CHANGES WILL CHANGE FOR THE OVER THE EXPECTED LIFETIME OF THE MEMBERS, WHICH RIGHT NOW IS AN AVERAGE OF 80 PLUS YEARS OLD. SO AGAIN, IT WON'T BE THE 30 YEARS OR ACTUALLY CHANGE TO FROM THE 80 YEARS AND AGAIN, BE OF AVERAGE. ALSO COMPLIES WITH THE GOVERNMENTAL ACCOUNTING STANDARD BOARDS. SO IT ADDS AN ESTIMATE FOR THE FUTURE COLAS. WHERE WHERE TURNED BY THE ACTUARIAL DOLLARS. SO AGAIN THE PAST THIS IS PRE CHRIS 1985 AND JUST BRINGS IT UP TO DATE. THE NEXT ORDINANCE YOU'LL HEAR IS ALSO WITH THE FIREFIGHTER FUND WHICH FALLS RIGHT IN PLACE WITH THIS. SO I DO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THIS FOR OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND OUR FIREFIGHTERS THAT THAT DID SERVE WITH US AND THEIR FAMILIES. AND WE DO HAVE ONE OF THE ACTUARIES THAT THAT SERVES ON WITH US. IF YOU DO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER. GREAT. THANKS. I WOULD POINT OUT THAT MR. KAISER KAISER HAS JOINED US. I HOPE I PRONOUNCED THAT AT LEAST CLOSE TO CORRECTLY CLOSE. WICKENHEISER. WICKENHEISER. I'M SORRY. SO, MR. WICKENHEISER, IF YOU'D LIKE TO OFFER A FEW WORDS, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, AND THEN WE'LL OPEN IT FOR QUESTIONS. YEAH, SURE. I WAS. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY. I'VE. I'M A CONSULTING ACTUARY THAT'S BEEN IN THE BUSINESS NOW FOR 30 YEARS, AND I'VE BEEN WORKING

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WITH BOTH OF THESE RETIREMENT FUNDS FOR OVER 20 YEARS. AND THE COUNCILWOMAN'S. RIGHT. THE THE CURRENT LANGUAGE IS, IS ANTIQUATED AND REALLY DOESN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT CURRENT ACTUARIAL STANDARDS ON HOW TO FUND THESE PROGRAMS. SO THESE ORDINANCE, PROPOSED ORDINANCE CHANGES ARE TRYING TO MODERNIZE THAT AND ENSURE THAT THESE FUNDS ARE PROPERLY FUNDED.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN WINKLER. THANK YOU. I JUST HAD A QUESTION. HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE STILL IN THIS FUND? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. SO THE THE POLICE FUND HAS. 63 AS OF THE LAST VALUATION DATE, WHICH WAS JANUARY 1ST. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN PARKER? YES. THANK YOU, MISTER CHAIR. SO FOR THE SPONSOR, COUNCILWOMAN WOOLDRIDGE, CAN I ASK, LIKE FROM A MONETARY VALUE OR A BUDGET PERSPECTIVE, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THIS ADDS? ON AVERAGE, WE'RE LOOKING FOR THEM TO ADD AROUND 250,000 AS OF RIGHT NOW. AGAIN, IT WOULD IT'S ON AN AVERAGE. SO THAT COULD CHANGE I MEAN THAT THAT IT WOULD ONLY POTENTIALLY DECREASE IT ON THE AS MEMBERS DECREASE. AND THAT'S FOR 63. THAT'S FOR 63 OKAY. THANK YOU. AND NONE BEING ADDED.

THAT'S CORRECT. NONE NONE WOULD BE ADDED. THIS IS A STATIC AND DECREASING NUMBER RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. COUNCILMAN RAYMOND. YEAH I WANTED TO THANK COUNCILWOMAN MULVEY FOR THIS.

SHE'S BEEN SERVING ON THE POLICE RETIREMENT BOARD, AND I'VE BEEN SERVING ON THE FIREFIGHTERS RETIREMENT BOARD. AND WE SAW THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS THAT THAT SOME FOLKS WERE STRUGGLING AS COSTS WERE RISING. AND SO THIS IS A REALLY PROACTIVE APPROACH, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU DOING IT ON BEHALF OF YOUR FOLKS AND SAYING, HEY, I THINK THIS WOULD BENEFIT YOUR FOLKS AS WELL, AND I'D LOVE TO BE ADDED AS A CO-SPONSOR. THANK YOU. GREAT.

ANYONE ELSE? THIS IS AN ORDINANCE CALLING FOR A ROLL CALL. VOTE. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE OPEN THE VOTING. VOTING IS OPEN. I'M NOT LOVED. YES. COUNCILMEMBER WEBBER, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE PLANNING ON VOTING OR NOT, BUT IF YOU WISH TO VOTE, DO YOU? THE REQUIREMENT IS THE CAMERA MUST BE ON. SORRY. ON WAS WORKING EARLIER, BUT FOR SOME REASON IT'S NOT RIGHT NOW. AND YET WE CAN'T SEE YOU. OKAY, WELL, DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE CONTENTIOUS, BUT I'LL LOG OUT AND LOG BACK IN. BUT DO YOU WANT US TO PAUSE JUST LONG ENOUGH? GO AHEAD AND GET. YES, PLEASE, IF YOU CAN. OKAY. WE'LL PAUSE. AND IF YOU COULD CAUSE THE RECORD TO REFLECT THAT. WE ARE ALSO JOINED BY COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS. FOR THIS VOTE. SO. OH, THERE HE IS. STILL NO CAMERA. COUNCILMEMBER. WE'LL HOLD THE VOTE AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK. GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD AND WE'LL COME BACK AND HOPEFULLY GET THE CAMERA WORKING. YOU CAN VOTE ON VOTE ON BOTH THE FIREFIGHTERS AND THE POLICE AT THE SAME TIME.

SO CAN I GET A MOTION TO JUST HANG ON TO THIS ONE UNTIL AFTER FIRE MOTION SECOND? GREAT.

UNLESS THERE'S AN OBJECTION, WE'RE GOING TO HOLD ON. IT'S GOING TO BE UNANIMOUS ANYWAY, I THINK SO. WELL, I MEAN, I YEAH, THAT'S PROBABLY TRUE. I MEAN, HE CAN WE CAN JUST GO AHEAD AND FORWARD. COUNCILMAN WEBBER. YES, SIR. WE'RE GOING TO PLOW AHEAD WITHOUT YOUR VOTE. IS THAT OKAY? THAT'S JUST FINE. GREAT. LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE, THEN. OKAY? OKAY. IT PASSED TO

[3. O-273-25 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING LOUISVILLE METRO CODE OF ORDINANCES (“LMCO”) SECTIONS 32.168 AND 32.170 REGARDING THE LOUISVILLE FIREFIGHTER’S PENSION FUND. Action Required By: April 30, 2026 Sponsors: Josie Raymond (D-10) ]

NOTHING TO GO TO THE. IT'LL GO TO THE OLD BUSINESS. ITEM NUMBER THREE. I'M SORRY. GO TO CONSENT WITHOUT ANY OBJECTIONS. ITEM NUMBER THREE IS ORDINANCE TWO 7325. IT IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING LOUISVILLE METRO CODE OF ORDINANCES. LEMKO SECTIONS 32.168 AND 32.170. REGARDING THE LOUISVILLE FIREFIGHTERS PENSION FUND. THIS ONE IS. OH, I NEED A MOTION. SECOND. SECOND PROPERLY BEFORE US. THIS ONE IS BEING BROUGHT FORWARD BY COUNCILWOMAN RAYMOND. SHE MENTIONED IT EARLIER, BUT STILL WILL THROW IT TO HER FOR ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS. THANK YOU.

AND I'LL INVITE UP GREG DEERING, WHO IS THE FEARLESS LEADER OF THE LOUISVILLE FIREFIGHTERS PENSION FUND, IN CASE WE HAVE QUESTIONS. I WANT TO REITERATE THIS IS VERY SIMILAR. IT AFFECTS A SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN A VERY BIG WAY. I THINK WE'RE HANGING TOUGH AT 79 MEMBERS, AND IT'S ALL RETIREES, NO NEW MEMBERS, RIGHT. THIS IS A RETIREMENT PLAN FROM SEVERAL

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ITERATIONS AGO, FOLKS WHO SERVED SEVERAL ITERATIONS AGO. AND I'LL ADD IN TERMS OF MONETARY CONCERNS. AND GREG, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG WHEN ALL THE BENEFICIARIES DO PASS, IF THERE'S STILL MONEY IN EITHER FUND, THAT COMES RIGHT BACK TO LOUISVILLE METRO. SO IT'S REALLY IT'S REALLY SAFEGUARDED AND USED TO SUPPORT THE PEOPLE WHO SERVED ON OUR BEHALF WHILE THE WHILE THEY NEED IT. MR. DEERING, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS BEFORE I OPEN THE FLOOR FOR QUESTIONS, WELL, JUST LIKE THE OTHER COUNCIL LADY SAID, OUR GUYS ARE STRUGGLING. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE WIDOWS TO CONTEND WITH. AND SO ANY HELP THAT YOU CAN GIVE US WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. SO WE'VE GOT PEOPLE 104 YEARS OLD, DOWN TO 74 YEARS OLD. SO ANY HELP WE'D APPRECIATE IT. COUNCILMAN WOOLRIDGE YEAH, AS AS COUNCILMAN RAYMOND SAID, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO BE ADDED AS A CO-SPONSOR, IF THAT'S AVAILABLE. THANK YOU. ANY OTHERS? MAY I JUST ASK? I KNOW WE WE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE FIRE PENSION FOLKS A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO. I'M NOT SAYING WE DIDN'T HAVE THE SAME CONVERSATION WITH THE POLICE. I JUST DON'T REMEMBER. I'M I WAS INVOLVED IN THE FIRE PENSION ONE. HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN SINCE WE CHANGED THE THE COMPENSATION? YOU DON'T CHANGE THE COMPENSATION. WELL, HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN SINCE WE DID THIS? WELL, PROBABLY WE DID IT SINCE WE'VE BEEN MERGED WITH FIRE. I REMEMBER DOING IT, BUT IT'S BEEN A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO. I DON'T DON'T DON'T HEAR THIS WRONG. I'M NOT ARGUING AGAINST IT. 15 AND I DON'T REMEMBER IT CHANGED. OKAY. YEAH. THERE WE GO. AM I GETTING IT CONFUSED? RIGHT, BOB? I'M THE ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE LOUISVILLE POLICE RETIREMENT FUND. GREAT. THANKS. I THINK YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE CHANGE.

WHEN WE RAISED IT FROM THE BASE OF $300 TO UP TO $800, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE, BUT I WENT TO THE PENSION FUND IN 1999, AND IT WAS IN 1 OR 2 YEARS AFTER THAT. SO SOMEWHERE IT IS FRIGHTENING TO THINK THAT I HAVE A MEMORY THAT GOES BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF MERGER, AND THIS ACTUALLY IS STUCK THERE. SO, COLLEAGUES, I THINK WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS IT HAS BEEN A VERY LONG TIME. I'M AFRAID TO PUT A YEAR ON IT, BUT IT HAS BEEN A VERY LONG TIME SINCE WE'VE DONE ANYTHING WITH THESE PENSIONS. AND SO IT'S HIGHLY APPROPRIATE THAT WE TAKE THE ACTION TODAY. SO I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN GET THIS UNANIMOUS AS WELL, AND WON'T EVEN HAVE TO MENTION IT ON CONSENT. SO ANY OTHERS? OKAY. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE ALSO CALLS FOR ROLL CALL VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? YOU SAID ROLL CALL. OH I'M SORRY. IT'S ROLL CALL. VOTE.

MADAM CLERK, PLEASE OPEN THE VOTING. COUNCILMAN WEAVER. OH, WELL, I WAS GOING TO CONSENT.

OKAY. COUNCILMAN KRAMER OR CHAIR KRAMER, YOU HAVE 11 YES VOTES. THANK YOU. I'M THE ON

[4. O-258-25 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 091, SERIES 2025, RELATING TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2025-2026 OPERATING BUDGET, BY CHANGING THE LANGUAGE ASSOCIATED WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE VALLEY STATION BASEBALL FIELD AND THE PRAIRIE VILLAGE BASEBALL FIELD. Action Required By: April 30, 2026 Sponsors: Khalil Batshon (R-25) ]

THE CONSENT CALENDAR. ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS ORDINANCE TWO 5825. IT IS AN ORDINCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 91, SERIES 2025, RELATING TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 2026 OPERATING BUDGET. BY CHANGING THE LANGUAGE ASSOCIATED WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE VALLEY STATION BASEBALL FIELD AND THE PRAIRIE VILLAGE BASEBALL FIELD. SECOND, IT'S PROPERLY BEFORE US.

THIS COMES TO US FROM COUNCILMAN I'M SORRY, COMES TO US FROM COUNCILMAN BACON. NO NEED TO DO BOTH NAMES. KHALIL. SORRY YOU'RE ON. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. SO WE APPROPRIATED THESE FUNDS THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS OF THE FY 20, IS THAT RIGHT? YEP. THAT'S CORRECT. ME? YES. AND THROUGH THE PROCESS, THE CORRECT PROCESS WAS TO APPROPRIATE THEM THROUGH THE JC.

FOUNDATION. AND THERE HAVE BEEN SOME HICCUPS IN JC IN THE WAY THEY WERE ACCEPTING FUNDS. SO THEY REJECTED THE FUNDS TO DISTRIBUTE TO THE THE LEAGUES. SO THE CAME BACK TO US TO RE-APPROPRIATE THROUGH PARKS, DIRECTLY TO THE LEAGUES WITH A NEW MOU FROM THE LEAGUES TO THE TO NJC. SO I LOOK FOR EVERYBODY'S SUPPORT IN THIS AMENDMENT PLEASE. THANK YOU.

JUST TO BE CLEAR, SIR, IF YOU DON'T MIND, NOT JUST PRAIRIE VILLAGE AND VALLEY SPORTS, THIS ALSO COVERS SHAWNEE YOUTH CENTER AND SHIVELY SPLASH PAD AS WELL, AND TREES. LOUISVILLE.

THERE IS NO ONE IN THE QUEUE LOOKING TOWARDS THE SCREEN. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE I'VE GOT ANYTHING THERE EITHER. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE CALLING FOR A ROLL CALL. VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? I'M SORRY, MADAM CLERK. PLEASE OPEN THE VOTING. I SAID ROLL CALL. VOTE YES. COUNCILMAN

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WEBER, I. CHAIR KRAMER. YOU HAVE 11 YES VOTES. THANK YOU. THIS ALSO WILL BE CONSENT

[5. O-269-25 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 072, SERIES 2020, RELATING TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2020-2021 CAPITAL BUDGET, AND ORDINANCE NO. 092, SERIES 2025, RELATING TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2025-2026 CAPITAL BUDGET, BY TRANSFERRING FUNDS BETWEEN PROJECTS AND ESTABLISHING A NEW PROJECT. Action Required By: April 30, 2026 Sponsors: Jonathan ”JJ” Joseph (R-12) ]

CALENDAR ITEM NUMBER FIVE, ORDINANCE TWO 6925. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 72, SERIES 2020, RELATING TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2020 2021. CAPITAL CAPITAL BUDGET AND ORDINANCE NUMBER 92, SERIES 2025 RELATING TO FISCAL YEAR 2025 2026 CAPITAL BUDGET BY TRANSFERRING FUNDS BETWEEN PROJECTS AND ESTABLISHING A NEW PROJECT MOTION SECOND PROPERLY BEFORE US. THIS COMES FROM COUNCILMAN JONATHAN JOSEPH'S DISTRICT AND BRYSON SEBASTIAN, I BELIEVE, IS HERE TO SPEAK TO THIS. SO, BRYSON, YOU'LL INTRODUCE YOURSELF. IT'S OKAY.

PERFECT. YES, SIR. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. BRYSON SEBASTIAN, LEGISLATIVE ASSISTANT, DISTRICT 12. THIS IS JUST A COUPLE OF OLD FUNDS. WE'VE GOTTEN A. I'M SURE A LOT OF DISTRICTS HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF SPEED HUMP REQUESTS AND TRAFFIC CALMING REQUESTS IN THE DISTRICT, AND WE SPOKE WITH BETH, AND WE HAD A COUPLE OF OLD POTS OF MONEY FROM COMPLETED PROJECTS THAT STILL HAD LEFTOVER FUNDING. SO JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING WORKED RIGHT WITH OMB, WE'RE JUST TRANSFERRING THIS ALL INTO A TRAFFIC CALMING FUND TO BE USED ON DIFFERENT SPEED HUMP PROJECTS AND TRAFFIC PROJECTS IN THE DISTRICT. OKAY, SEEING NO ONE IN THE QUEUE IF THERE ARE. OH, I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN OWEN. IT'S ONLY IT'S IT'S ONLY. THANK YOU. CHAIR. IT'S ONLY A QUESTION ABOUT BECAUSE I WANT TO I WANT TO CHECK AND SEE WHETHER WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, FUNDS THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SCRAPE AS WELL. SO THEY'RE BEING MOVED INTO AN ACCOUNT THAT IS NOT PART OF YOUR COST CENTER, NOT PART OF. IT'S AN ACCOUNT STILL SITTING WITH OMB DEDICATED TO YOUR DISTRICT FOR TRAFFIC CALMING. YES. AND I WILL DEFER TO BETH IF THERE'S MORE DETAILS. YEAH. BETH, COULD YOU COULD YOU COULD YOU ADD SOME COLOR TO THAT, PERHAPS? BETH, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. HELLO, BETH STEINBERG, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THAT. IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS NEIGHBORHOODS. IT DOES NOT TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC CALMING. SO IT CAN ONLY BE USED FOR SPEED HUMPS. IF YOU WANT THE TITLE DIFFERENT THAN THAT, WE'D HAVE TO AMEND IT. THAT'S HELPFU THANK YOU. THAT' I DIDN'T MEAN TO HOLD IT UP, JUST WONDERING ABOUT THE MECHANICS OF IT. THANKOU. ANY HER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONAGAIN. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE CALLING CLK, PASE TA. VO. MAM COLMTH Y, CHAIR KRAMER, YOU HAVE 11 YES VOTES.

[8. R-133-25 A RESOLUTION DETERMINING REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT 209 NORTH ENGLISH STATION ROAD AS SURPLUS AND NOT NEEDED FOR THE GOVERNMENTAL PURPOSES OF METRO GOVERNMENT AND AUTHORIZING ITS TRANSFER. Action Required By: April 30, 2026 Sponsors: Ben Reno-Weber (D-8), Anthony Piagentini (R-19)]

THANK YOU. THAT ALSO WILL GO TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. THIS IS A RESOLUTION ONE 3325. IT IS A RESOLUTION DETERMINING REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT 209 NORTH ENGLISH STATION ROAD AS SURPLUS AND NOT NEEDED FOR GOVERNMENTAL PURPOSES OF METRO GOVERNMENT, AND AUTHORIZING ITS TRANSFER MOTION. IT IS PROPERLY BEFORE US. THIS IS SPONSORED BY COUNCILMAN RINO WEBER AND COUNCILMAN PIACENTINI. I'M NOT SURE IF ONE OF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS COUNCILMAN PIACENTINI. THE FLOOR IS YOURS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I AM GOING TO READ A PORTION OF THE WHEREAS CLAUSES HERE BECAUSE IT HELPS PAINT THE PICTURE. BUT THIS LAND OWNED BY THE WATER COMPANY, IT'S A LITTLE FUNKY BECAUSE IT'S OWNED BY THE WATER COMPANY AND METRO. THAT WAS A PROCESS USED DECADES AGO, LONG TIME AGO, IN A GALAXY FAR, FAR AWAY FOR SOME OF THIS PROPERTY. IT WAS COMMONPLACE AT THE TIME. BUT I DO WANT TO READ. THIS IS WHY I WANT TO READ THE WHEREAS CLAUSES TWO PARTICULAR QUOTE. WHEREAS THE DUAL TITLING OF THE PROPERTY WAS A HISTORICAL PRACTICE OCCASION, OCCASIONALLY USED WHEN ACQUIRING PROPERTY FOR THE SOLE USE AND BENEFIT OF THE LOUISVILLE WATER COMPANY WITHOUT INTENT, THAT METRO GOVERNMENT RETAIN EQUITABLE OWNERSHIP, WHEREAS METRO GOVERNMENT DID NOT EXECUTE THE DEED BY WHICH TITLE THIS NEXT WHEREAS CLAUSE, WHEREAS METRO GOVERNMENT DID NOT EXECUTE THE DEED BY WHICH TITLE WAS ACQUIRED, THE PROPERTY HAS AT ALL TIMES BEEN EXCLUSIVELY USED BY THE LOUISVILLE WATER COMPANY FOR ESSENTIAL FOR ESSENTIALLY WATER INFRASTRUCTURE. ESSENTIAL PROBABLY SHOULD BE ESSENTIAL WATER INFRASTRUCTURE, INCLUDING TWO MAJOR WATER TANKS AND A DRAINAGE BASIN FOR TANK DISCHARGES. SO END OF QUOTE. SO THIS IS PROPERTY RIGHT NEXT TO MIDDLETOWN COMMONS RIGHT AT THE CORNER OF SHELBYVILLE ROAD AND NORTH ENGLISH STATION. THERE'S, I THINK TWO WATER TOWERS THERE NOW AND THAT IT'S SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. I BELIEVE THE WATER COMPANY JUST WANTS TO CONTINUE TO USE THE PROPERTY, AS WELL AS POTENTIALLY DISPOSE OF IT AND SELL IT TO OTHERS THAT WANT TO DEVELOP IT IN THE AREA. BUT IN ORDER TO DO THAT, BECAUSE IT WAS WE WERE NAMED IN IT, WE HAVE TO SURPLUS IT, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE NEVER AS THE AS THE WHEREAS CLAUSE STATES HAD EQUITABLE TITLE, WE HAD NO EXPECTATION OF USING IT. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THE CITY'S EVER EVEN ATTEMPTED TO USE OR NEEDED. SO BUT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS MECHANICALLY SO THAT THEY CAN THEN USE AND DISPOSE OF THE PROPERTY LEGALLY

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AND PROPERLY. SO I ASK IF EVERYBODY COULD. OH, AND THE REASON BEN AND I ARE ON IT, IT WAS ORIGINALLY, I THINK, GOING TO LABOR AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHICH BEN CHAIRS, AND THEN IT'S IN MY DISTRICT. SO I WAS ON IT. SO THERE'S NO NOTHING MORE TO READ INTO ABOUT THE TWO OF US BEING ON IT THAN THAT. SO. OKAY. WHOEVER. OKAY. THERE'S NO ONE IN THE QUEUE, INCLUDING COUNCILMAN WEBER. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR CONCERNS SEEING NONE. THIS IS A RESOLUTION THAT CALLS FOR A VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. I'M GOING TO DECLARE THAT THAT WAS UNANIMOUS. AND THIS WILL ALSO GO TO CONSENT. THAT'S THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR TODAY. WITHOUT OBJECTION, WE

[Adjournment Note: Agendas are followed at the discretion of the Chair. While an item may be listed, it does not mean all items will be heard and/or acted upon by the Committee.]

ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU.

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