Oct 07, 2025 Planning and Zoning Committee

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THAT'S ALL THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, I THINK, THAT ARE IN CHAMBERS. I'M JOINED BY COUNCILMAN JP LINENGER IS IN CHAMBERS. COUNCILWOMAN BASS IS IN CHAMBERS. AND THEN WE'RE JOINED ONLINE BY COMMITTEE MEMBER JOSE RAYMOND AND COMMITTEE MEMBER SHAMEKA PARRISH WRIGHT. AND IT LOOKS LIKE COUNCILWOMAN JENNY WOOLDRIDGE IS GOING TO SO. AND I THINK WE'LL BE JOINED ALSO IN CHAMBERS SHORTLY BY COUNCILMAN PIERRE SANTINI. SO WE'RE GOING TO SKIP THE SPECIAL DISCUSSION FOR THE MOMENT. WE'RE GOING TO GET THROUGH THE PENDING LEGISLATION FIRST AND THEN COME BACK TO THAT. SO THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS, 023225. AN

[1. O-232-25     AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE ZONING OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 7810 ST ANDREWS CHURCH ROAD CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY .38 ACRES AND BEING IN LOUISVILLE METRO (CASE NO. 25ZONE0060). Action Required By December 3, 2025 **Council Member Jonathan “JJ” Joseph  (R-12) can vote on this zoning change** Sponsors: Andrew Owen (D-9) ]

CAN I GET A MOTION PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED. JULIA JULIA WILLIAMS, OFFICE OF PLANNING.

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HE HE WALKED. HE WALKS IN ON ON. Q. I WOULD LIKE TO LET'S FIND COUNCILMAN JOSEPH A MICROPHONE SO HE CAN TELL US WHAT HE THINKS ABOUT ABOUT THIS AGENDA ITEM. COUNCILMAN JOSEPH. OH, NOT A MOMENT TOO SOON. HELLO TO YOU ALL. I WAS WANTING TO DO. WE HAVE ELEMENT ON THIS THAT SAYS THAT THIS THE HOURS OF OPERATION. NO. CAN WE GET THAT? I MEAN, THAT'S MY BIG HOLD UP RIGHT NOW IS WITH THIS. GET IT? WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE THAT TO BE? YES. DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO RESPOND TO HIS QUESTION? THERE'S NO HOURS OF OPERATION CURRENTLY, SO IF YOU WANT TO ADD THOSE, JUST I GUESS YOU WOULD TALK TO. COUNTY ATTORNEY FEASTER AND LET THEM KNOW WHAT YOU WANT THAT TO BE. OKAY. SO DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE? YEAH, THAT WAS MY BIG THING.

COUNCILMAN BHAJAN, I'M SORRY. THAT'S YOUR JOB TO NOT. COUNCILMAN. IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU, MISTER CHAIR. THANK YOU. I HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO BINDING ELEMENTS AS WELL, TRAVIS, IF THAT'S ALRIGHT. I KNOW I WAS AS I WAS READING THROUGH THIS, THEY'RE MOVING FROM C1 TO C2 AND THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL BINDING ELEMENTS. AND I'M TRYING TO FIRST OF ALL UNDERSTAND WHY THEY'RE MOVING THE ZONING. IF I'M, IF I'M READ CORRECTLY, JUST TO ADD A FENCE, IS THAT CORRECT? IN ORDER TO HAVE SIX BAYS OF AUTO REPAIR, THEY WOULD NEED TO HAVE C2 ZONING TO HAVE MORE THAN TWO. OKAY. TWO IS ALLOWED C1. MORE THAN TWO IS C2. THANK YOU JULIA.

AND WITH WITH THAT BEING SAID, IF IT'S ALL RIGHT, MR. CHAIR, CAN I FOLLOW UP? I DIDN'T NOTICE ANY BINDING IN THE IN THE IN THIS FOR THE THE NON USE OF LIQUOR STORES AND OR NON-CONFORMING FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS AND THE STANDARD BI ELEMENT AS WELL AS THE HOURS OF OPERATION BINDING. IS THAT POSSIBLE TO ADD IN OR DO WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THE TO THE CLIENT AND SEE IF WE CAN GET THAT? SURE. TRAVIS, ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY ANY SORT OF USE RESTRICTIONS OR THE HOURS OF OPERATION, THOSE ARE ALL GOING TO NEED TO BE APPROVED BY THE APPLICANT BEFORE THEY'RE ADDED. SO WE DO HAVE INTEL. LET'S SEE. I THINK IT'S EARLY DECEMBER, DECEMBER 3RD ON THIS CASE, WHICH I GUESS WOULD BE THE THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING IN NOVEMBER. SO IF WE'D LIKE WE CAN HOLD ON TO IT AND I CAN ASK ABOUT THOSE. IF IT WAS JUST HOURS OF OPERATION, I WOULD SAY MAYBE WE COULD GET THAT DONE BEFORE COUNCIL, BUT WITH SEVERAL DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS AT ONCE. IT'S PROBABLY A MORE SIGNIFICANT CONVERSATION. IF IT'S OKAY WITH COUNCILMAN JOSEPH, I WOULD MOTION TO TO TRY TO GET THIS TABLED UNTIL WE

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COUNCILMAN JOSEPH, ARE YOU OKAY WITH WITH THAT? YES. IF I CAN JUST HAVE ANOTHER COUPLE OF WEEKS TO GET THAT SOLIDIFIED, I'D APPRECIATE THAT. SO, COUNCILMAN VACHON, YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT AS AN OFFICIAL MOTION? YES. THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION FOR ADDING THE BINDING ELEMENTS FOR NON-CONFORMING OR NON NON CHAPTER. WELL, JUST YOU WANT TO JUST MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE IT. YES. MAKE THE MOTION TO TABLE IT. YES. THANK YOU. CAN I GET A SECOND. SECOND. PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF TABLING PLEASE SAY AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED. THE AYES HAVE IT. THIS WILL BE TABLED UNTIL OUR NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING. THANK YOU. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM NUMBER 30234-25, AN ORDINANCE

[2. O-234-25     AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE ZONING OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1933 WROCKLAGE AVENUE CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY .60 ACRES AND BEING IN LOUISVILLE METRO (CASE NO. 25ZONE0066). Action Required By December 3, 2025 **Council Member Ben Reno-Weber (D-8) can vote on this zoning change** Sponsors: Andrew Owen (D-9) ]

PROPOSED USE OFFICE. EXISTING ZONING R5 IN THE TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD FORM DISTRICT PROPOSED OH ONE. IN THE TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD FORM DISTRICT. THE CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R4, R5 TO R1. THERE WAS A WAIVER REQUESTED AND A DETAILED DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH BINDING ELEMENTS. THE PROPOSALS TO CONVERT AN EXISTING HOME INTO AN OFFICE. THERE'S 12,000FT■!S OF EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOME THERE. IT'S ON A 0.6 ACRE LOT AND THERE'S NO SITE CONSTRUCTION PROPOSED. THIS IS THE APPLICANT'S DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THIS IS WHAT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY CURRENTLY LOOKS LIKE. THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH. ACROSS THE STREET. THE APPLICANT HAD THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING ON MARCH 26TH, 2025. LD AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE MEETING WAS HELD ON AUGUST 14TH, 2025. THE PLANNING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 4TH, 2025, WHERE THERE WAS A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R5 TO OR1, PASSING BY A VOTE OF 8 TO 1.

THANK YOU JULIA. I SPOKE TO COUNCILMAN MARINA WEBER, WHOSE DISTRICT THIS IS IN, AND WHILE HE HATES TO LOSE ANY HOUSING UNITS AT ALL, EVEN ONE IN HIS DISTRICT, HE DOES. HE SEES NO REASON WHY TO BE AGAINST THIS. SO JUST WANTED EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT. LET'S SEE. DO I HAVE. I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANYBODY IN THE QUEUE. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ABOUT THIS ONE? BEFORE WE OPEN THE ROLL CALL? VOTE. OKAY. CHERYL, CAN YOU OPEN THE ROLL CALL? VOTE, PLEASE? COUNCIL MEMBER. REIMER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER PERISH, RIGHT. YES. THANK YOU.

CHAIR. WHEN YOU HAVE EIGHT YES VOTES, THANK YOU. THIS PASSED UNANIMOUSLY AND WILL BE ON OLD BUSINESS IN THE NEXT COUNCIL AGENDA. THE SPONSOR OF ITEM NUMBER FOUR HAS ASKED THAT WE HOLD THAT FOR ONE MORE, ONE MORE CYCLE. SO THAT WILL COME UP ON OUR AT OUR NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING. AND THEN THE NEXT ITEM WE HAVE IS ITEM 5R-1 17 TWO FIVE. A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING

[4. R-117-25     A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO ACCEPT $20,000 FROM THE KENTUCKY HERITAGE COUNCIL, THE STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE, THROUGH THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION GRANTS PROGRAM TO BE ADMINISTERED BY THE OFFICE OF PLANNING. Action Required By March 25, 2026 Sponsors: Andrew Owen (D-9) ]

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I KNOW THEY CAN BE FRUSTRATING FOR SOME AS WELL, BECAUSE THEY DO TAKE A LONG TIME AND THEN WHEN WE'RE DONE WITH THEM, WE HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A NICE REPORT THAT SAYS EVERYTHING THAT'S WRONG WITH THE CURRENT ROADWAY AND THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE TO HELP THE ROADWAY, BUT ALSO USUALLY TOWARDS THE END IT'S GOT A LOT OF COST ESTIMATES FOR HIGH DOLLAR REPAIRS OR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ROADWAY. AND SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO WAIT MULTIPLE YEARS BEFORE WE CAN GET THOSE. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S SOMEWHAT FRUSTRATING. SOMETIMES PEOPLE SAY, WELL, WE KNOW WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS ROAD. WHY DON'T YOU JUST GET STARTED ON FIXING IT? SO WE HAVE TO IDENTIFY THOSE THINGS, BREAK OUT IN PRIORITY SEGMENTS, AND THEN OF COURSE, DO COST ESTIMATES FOR THOSE. SO I WAS ASKED ABOUT NEW CUT ROAD TAYLOR BOULEVARD STUDY. THAT'S BEEN DONE MOST RECENTLY. WE STARTED IT BACK IN IN IN MAYBE EVEN LATE 2022, EARLY 23. WE HAD TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS, SEPTEMBER OF 23 AND APRIL OF 24. THAT STUDY BECAME FINAL WITH A REPORT JUST IN AUGUST OF THIS YEAR. SO I THINK THERE WERE TEN DIFFERENT RECOMMENDED ALTERNATES IN THERE AS POTENTIALS, BUT THE ARE NOT RECOMMENDED TEN ALTERNATES THAT WERE IN THERE AS PROPOSALS, BUT THE RECOMMENDED ALTERNATE DOES A LOT OF THINGS. IT'S GOT THREE LANE SECTIONS ON THE SOUTH END AND 4 OR 5 LANE SECTIONS KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE. BUT ONE OF THE BIGGER THINGS IS MEDIANS AND SOME ACCESS MANAGEMENT. SO MEDIANS IN SOME OF THOSE AREAS WHERE YOU HAVE LONG STRETCHES WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE NECESSARILY RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL ACCESS POINTS, SHARED USE PATHS ON ONE SIDE AND SIDEWALK ON THE OTHER. SO. WHAT IS IMPORTANT IS THAT AGAIN,

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IT'S GOT A LOT OF ACCESS POINTS, A LOT OF COMMERCIAL, A LOT OF TRAFFIC IS REALLY WE NEED TO CONCENTRATE ON, PARTICULARLY THE INTERSECTION WITH PRESTON HIGHWAY. SO WE JUST STARTED THAT STUDY EARLIER THIS YEAR. WE JUST HAD A PUBLIC MEETING LAST MONTH. SECOND PUBLIC MEETING WILL BE IN EARLY 2026. THE REPORT IS SUPPOSED TO BE FINALIZED IN THE SUMMER, SOMEWHERE AROUND JUNE OR JULY OF NEXT YEAR, AND AGAIN TO MOVE FORWARD WITH PIECES AND PARTS OF THAT. WE'LL NEED FUNDING IN THE ROAD, SUBSEQUENT ROAD PLAN. WE'LL SEE WHETHER WE GET ENOUGH DONE WITH THE REPORT AND SOME RECOMMENDED BREAKOUTS, AS WE CALL THEM, AND FUNDING PIECES THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY TRY TO GET SOME THINGS FUNDED IN THE 2026 ROAD PLAN. SO THAT REMAINS TO BE SEEN. BUT THAT ONE'S ONGOING. ACTUALLY, WE HAVE A SURVEY OPEN RIGHT NOW THAT STILL CAN BE.

SUBMITTED UNTIL OCTOBER 10TH. SO JUST I GUESS NEXT WEEK. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE OUTER LOOP? I HAVE A RELATED QUESTION. THANK YOU. HI. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW AROUND WHEN YOU SAY THE FUNDING, YOU'RE JUST SAYING LIKE WHAT'S GOING TO BE ALLOCATED THROUGH YOUR FROM THE STATE TO THESE PROJECTS. AND IF AND HOW ARE THESE PRIORITIES MADE? ARE THEY MADE IN CONJUNCTION WITH I KNOW YOU'RE REPORTING ON WHAT YOU'RE DOING, BUT ARE THEY MADE IN CONNECTION WITH WHAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED AS PRIORITIES AS A COUNCIL? IS THERE A THERE'S TALKS IN THAT AREA? YES. SO IT'S IT'S A REALLY COMPLEX THING. THAT'S PROBABLY FOR ANOTHER DAY. BUT I'LL TRY TO SUM UP QUICKLY, PARTICULARLY WHEN WE HAVE A STUDY THAT HAS BEEN ALREADY COMPLETED EVERY ODD YEAR. SO THAT'S THIS YEAR. WE PREPARE FOR THE EVEN YEARS WHEN THE LEGISLATURE GETS TOGETHER AND DOES THEIR, THEIR, THEIR BUDGETS FOR THE TRANSPORTATION ENACTED HIGHWAY PLAN. SO WE GATHER DATA FROM ALL THE STATE'S ELECTED OFFICIALS AND ANY OF THE LOCAL CITY COUNCILS. WE MEET WITH COUNTY JUDGES. WE TAKE ALL THAT INPUT AND THE LOCAL DISTRICT, DISTRICT FIVE HERE IN LOUISVILLE TAKES ALL THAT INPUT. AND WE HAVE OUR PRIORITY LIST.

WE HAVE 350 PROJECTS ON THE BOOKS RIGHT NOW JUST IN OUR DISTRICT. SO WE LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE WITH ALL THE INPUT THAT WE HAVE, AND WE COME UP WITH A PRIORITIZATION AND WHAT ACTUALLY COMES OUT IN THE ACT. ENACTED HIGHWAY PLAN WITH STATE FUNDS IS USUALLY A LOT MORE PROJECTS THAT CAN ACTUALLY BE FUNDED WITH THOSE STATE FUNDS. SO WE WE GATHER ALL THAT INPUT AND BREAK IT DOWN AND TRY TO SHORTLIST THINGS BASED ON ALL THE INPUTS, WHETHER THAT'S JUST VERBAL, YOU KNOW, WRITTEN, OR WE ACTUALLY HAVE DATA THAT WE'VE RECEIVED THROUGH A STUDY PROCESS. SO IT'S REALLY COMPLEX. IT'S A REALLY BIG FUNNEL TO GET DOWN TO THOSE SMALLER PROJECTS OR SMALLER PRIORITIES SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY FUND THOSE. SECONDARY TO THAT IS WE, OF COURSE, HAVE KEPT THE REGIONAL PLANNING DEVELOPMENT AGENCY THAT HAS THE FEDERAL FUNDING FOR THE LOUISVILLE AREA. IT'S GOT A DECENT AMOUNT OF FUNDS, FEDERAL FUNDS, AND WE TRY TO BALANCE THOSE THINGS WITH WHAT WE CAN FUND WITH STATE FUNDS. AND TYPICALLY THE THINGS THAT ARE HIGHER COST ARE GOING TO BE TRIED TO BE DONE THROUGH KIPTOO BECAUSE OF THE FEDERAL FUNDING ASPECT. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE DO ALL THOSE FEDERAL HOOPS AND HURDLES THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO FUND THOSE. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? OKAY. IT DOES. I JUST WANT TO SAY YOU ACTUALLY HAVE STUDIES THAT YOU USE AND YOU FUND. WE HAVE A LOT OF STUDIES THAT TELL US WHERE WE SHOULD PRIORITIZE AND WHAT WE SHOULD DO, BUT WE DON'T END UP FUNDING THOSE FOR VARIOUS

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WE'LL ALSO SAY LAST THING ABOUT THAT ON THE STUDY SIDE OF THINGS, IS THAT OVER THE LAST, SAY, 3 TO 5 YEARS, WE'VE HAD THE MOST STUDIES DONE SINCE I'VE BEEN IN THIS JOB FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS NOW. AND THAT'S GOOD. BUT THE BAD PART OF THAT IS THAT A LOT OF TIMES WE'LL FINISH ONE OF THOSE STUDIES AND IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO SIT ON A SHELF WITH NO ACTION TAKEN ON IT. AND SOMETIMES IF THEY SIT UP THERE TOO LONG AND WE WANT TO TAKE ACTION AT A LATER DATE, THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO KIND OF REFRESH AND REDO SOME OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS, TRAFFIC ANALYSIS AND VARIOUS OTHER THINGS. SO SOMETIMES WHEN WE DO TOO MANY OF THEM TOO QUICKLY, THEN CHANCES OF GETTING PIECES AND PARTS OF THOSE FUNDED OUT TO ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT. ANOTHER ONE I WAS ASKED ABOUT IS PRESTON, AND PRESTON IS AN INTERESTING ONE BECAUSE LOUISVILLE METRO PUBLIC WORKS DID A STUDY THAT WAS BASICALLY 61 FROM PRESTON HIGHWAY, FROM DOWNTOWN, ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE COUNTY LINE. THEY FINISHED IT. MIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER WHEN THAT WAS. I THINK IT WAS 2 OR 3 YEARS AGO. SO WE WAITED FOR METRO TO FINISH THAT, AND WE DID ANOTHER ONE THAT FOCUSED IN BETWEEN THE SNYDER AND THE WATTERSON EXPRESSWAY, LOOKING AT THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME OUT OF THE METRO STUDY. THAT STUDY AS WELL IS IS COMPLETE, AND IT WAS WRAPPED UP IN JUNE OR BEGINNING OF JULY THIS YEAR. SO IT HAS A LOT OF RECOMMENDATIONS. AGAIN, PRESTON AND OUTER LOOP INTERSECTION IS A BIG ONE THAT IS IDENTIFIED AS NEEDING SOME IMPROVEMENTS, ADDITIONAL TURN LANES AND SO FORTH, DIFFERENT PARTS AND PIECES, MAINLY WITH INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS. BUT THE STUDY LOOKED AT NOT JUST VEHICULAR IMPROVEMENTS. THERE'S MULTIMODAL, THERE'S PEDESTRIAN, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF THINGS IN THERE. AND AGAIN, WE HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE IF SOMETHING GETS FUNDED IN THE ROAD PLAN BEFORE WE CAN MOVE INTO THE NEXT STEP.

DOESN'T HAVE FUNDS. A LOT OF THESE PLANNING STUDIES WERE JUST FUNDED FOR THE PLANNING STUDY ITSELF, AND WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH EVEN A MIDTERM, AS WE CALL THEM, A MEDIUM RECOMMENDATION. THAT'S NOT QUITE AS EXPENSIVE AS THE AS A WHOLE CORRIDOR REDO.

THOSE ARE ALL THE STUDIES THAT I WAS ASKED ABOUT. I WAS ALSO ASKED ABOUT INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS OUT IN HIGHVIEW AREA. FAGAN, BUSH, BEULAH CHURCH AND OUTER LOOP, KIND OF GOOFY. DUAL INTERSECTION THERE. I KNOW COUNCILMAN BRADSHAW HERE, FORMERLY REPRESENTATIVE BRADSHAW, HAS BEEN VERY INTERESTED IN THIS AREA FOR A LONG TIME, AND IT'S BEEN SITTING THERE NOT YOU DON'T CARE ANYMORE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THIS ONE HAS BEEN SITTING OUT THERE FOR A VERY LONG TIME. WE DID THE DESIGN PROBABLY 15 YEARS AGO AND STARTED PURCHASING THE RIGHT OF WAY. WE ACTUALLY DID A LITTLE BREAKOUT PIECE WHERE WE DID THE RIGHT TURN LANE TO SOUTH BEULAH CHURCH, BUT THE PROJECT DOES IMPROVEMENTS TO BOTH OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS, DOES A LITTLE BIT OF ACCESS MANAGEMENT, WHICH IS A FANCY WAY OF SAYING CLOSING OFF SOME ACCESS POINTS, BUT THAT IS FOR FLOW, TRAFFIC AND SAFETY, BECAUSE THE MORE ACCESS POINTS YOU HAVE, PARTICULARLY COMMERCIAL AND THEY'RE CLOSE TO EACH OTHER AND THEY'RE OFFSET FROM EACH OTHER, THAT'S WHERE THE CRASHES HAPPEN. SO THAT PROJECT HAS HAD A LOT OF UTILITY RELOCATIONS THAT WERE PENDING. WE'VE GOT THEM STARTED AND WE'RE HOPING TO.

PUT THAT OUT TO BID. HERE, I BELIEVE, AT THE END OF THE YEAR, DECEMBER. YES, DECEMBER. WE'LL PUT THAT OUT TO BID. SO WE'LL PUT THAT OUT TO BID IN DECEMBER, ASSUMING WE GET A GOOD BID AND

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BUT SOMETIMES WE DO THAT AND WE WRITE WHAT'S CALLED UTILITY UTILITY IMPACT NOTES, WHICH BASICALLY TELLS OUR ROADWAY CONTRACTOR THAT, HEY, THIS STUFF STILL HAS TO HAPPEN. YOU ALL CAN'T COME TO US AND SAY, HEY, PAY US FOR DELAY CLAIMS BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY DOCUMENTED. SO SOMETIMES WE LET THESE OUT THERE TO TO BID AND LOTS OF UTILITIES STILL TO RELOCATE. BUT THE ROADWAY CONTRACT CONSTRUCTION STILL HAS MONTHS TO GO BEFORE THEY BEGIN.

AND THAT'S GOING TO BE THE CASE FOR THIS ONE. BUT I'D RATHER JUST GO AHEAD AND GET IT OUT THERE, DOCUMENT EVERYTHING THAT'S THE IMPACT. AND NOT WAIT AND WAIT AND WAIT UNTIL THE UTILITIES ARE COMPLETELY OUT OF THE WAY BEFORE PUTTING IT OUT TO BID FOR CONSTRUCTION. SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD NEWS. ONE, THERE WILL BE SOME TRAFFIC IMPACTS WHEN THAT ACTUALLY STARTS THE ACTUAL ROADWAY CONSTRUCTION, BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF HARD TO BUILD BOTH OF THOSE AS CLOSE AS THERE ARE AND NOT IMPACT SOME TRAFFIC THE LOCALS WILL BE ABLE TO USE, YOU KNOW, THE WAYS THERE SOME RESIDENTIAL AREAS, I'M SURE, FOR GETTING AROUND, BUT OUR DETOURS ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BE ON THE INTERSTATES WHEN THAT TIME COMES. SO WE'LL BE COMMUNICATING THAT WE'RE STILL A WAYS AWAY BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, WE WOULDN'T EVEN AWARD A CONTRACT UNTIL JANUARY OF NEXT YEAR. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT ONE? MOST OF THE AS IT APPEARS TO ME, MOST OF THE UTILITY RELOCATION HAS BEEN DONE. IT LOOKS LIKE TELECOMMUNICATIONS IS THE ONLY THING THAT'S LEFT. CAN YOU VERIFY THAT? I CAN'T CONFIRM 100%, BUT LG AND E IS USUALLY ONE OF OUR FIRST ONES FOR THE ELECTRIC SIDE, AND THEN ALL THE COMMUNICATION LINES ARE USUALLY ON THEIR ASSETS, THEIR POLES. AND SO THEY'RE THE LAST ONES TO GO, I WOULD ASSUME, BASED ON WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD ABOUT THE UTILITY IMPACTS, THAT THERE'S MORE THAN JUST THE THE COMMUNICATIONS AS AN ISSUE. THERE MAY BE GAS LINES. SO FOR ROADWAY CONSTRUCTION, WE ALLOW MSD AND WATER COMPANY AS PART OF OUR ROADWAY CONSTRUCTION. BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO TEAR UP THE ROAD FOR GAS LINES OR WATER LINES OR SEWER LINES, THEN YOU MIGHT AS WELL HAVE THE ROADWAY CONTRACTOR THERE BECAUSE THEY'RE TEARING UP THE ROAD. IT'S THE THINGS THAT ARE OFF THE ROAD. USUALLY WE HAVE TO GET THEM OUT OF THE WAY PRIOR TO ANYBODY DOING ANYTHING, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO GET IN EACH OTHER'S WAY. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT FOR A FACT, BUT I THINK IT'S PROBABLY MORE THAN JUST COMMUNICATIONS. OKAY. IT THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

COMMUNICATIONS ARE USUALLY THE LAST AND ALSO THE QUICKEST AS WELL. SO THAT'S WHY I DON'T THINK THAT'S ALL THERE'S LEFT. IF YOU COULD GET BACK WITH ME ON. ON WHAT WHAT WE GOT LEFT ON THAT. WHAT YOU GOT LEFT ON THAT. I'D APPRECIATE THAT. SURE. SO SO THE CLERK NOTIFIED ME THAT I DO HAVE A LIST OF PEOPLE IN SPEAKERS, WERE I IT IT I'D LIKE FOR HIM TO HIT KIND OF THE HIGH NOTES BEFORE WE GO INTO SPECIFIC SPEAKERS. UNLESS THE SPEAKERS WANTED TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING HE'S ALREADY DISCUSSED. SO WAS THERE ANYTHING THAT HE HAD ALREADY DISCUSSED THAT SOMEBODY WANTED TO JUST TO TALK ABOUT? OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN RUBY. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO YOU HAVE MENTIONED THE COMPLETION OF THE NEW TAYLOR BOULEVARD STUDY. YOU'VE MENTIONED THE COMPLETION OF THE STUDY ON PRESTON CORRIDOR, BUT I DON'T RECALL HAVING SEEN THEM.

WHEN DO WE GET THEM? NEW CUT IS DEFINITELY ON OUR WEBSITE. THE PRESENT ONE IS NEW ENOUGH COMPLETED THAT IT MAY HAVE NOT HAVE BEEN UPLOADED YET, BUT WE CERTAINLY CAN MAKE SURE THAT'S DONE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. YEAH, I WOULD APPRECIATE IF THEY WERE SENT TO OUR TO OUR RESPECTIVE OFFICES SO THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS THEY ARE AVAILABLE. WILL DO. THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE IN THE QUEUE HAVE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE ALREADY DISCUSSED? COUNCILMAN BRATCHER, I HAVE SEVERAL THINGS, BUT JUST QUICKLY, WHAT MATT HAS TALKED ABOUT WAS WHAT ABOUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY ON BARDSTOWN ROAD? DID YOU DID YOU BRING THAT UP? I DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THAT TODAY.

NO. OKAY. BECAUSE I KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO BE HERE. SO THAT'S THE ONE I KNOW THAT GOT A LOT OF PRESS JUST BECAUSE OF THE REQUEST FOR. A MORATORIUM, I GUESS, ON DEVELOPMENTS AND SO FORTH. BUT I BELIEVE THAT ONE IS, IS IT STILL GOING? I, I DIDN'T COME TO PRAYER TO TALK ABOUT THAT. IT WAS DUE APRIL. OKAY. AND THEN YOU DELAYED IT TILL AUGUST AND NOW IT'S OCTOBER. YEAH, I BELIEVE THAT IT'S, IT'S NOW JUST WE HAVE COMMENTS IN THAT THE CONSULTANT HAS TO FINISH UP BEFORE WE PUT A BOW ON THAT AND UPLOAD IT TO OUR WEBSITE AS WELL. I DO KNOW THAT WE'VE FOR THAT ONE IN PARTICULAR, WHEN WE WERE DOING OUR PROJECT PRIORITIZATIONS, WE,

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AND THEN ALSO, ARE YOU BEFORE YOU LEAVE TODAY, WILL YOU DO WE STILL DO THE FORMULA FIFTHS AS FAR AS APPROPRIATING MONEY TO JEFFERSON COUNTY FOR THE RURAL MUNICIPAL AID FUNDS AND THE RURAL ROADS? YES. AND YOU KNOW, IT'S NO SECRET THAT LOUISVILLE IS COMES UP ON THE SHORT END OF THE STICK ON THAT BECAUSE OF IF YOU LOOK AT THE FIVE ELEMENTS OF FORM, CAN YOU, CAN YOU EXPLAIN IT THE FORMULA? NOT VERY WELL, BUT. WELL, IT'S IT'S ONLY FOR RURAL CLASSIFIED ROADS FOR ONE THING. SO BARDSTOWN ROAD, ALL THESE OTHER ROADS THAT WE'VE BEEN MENTIONING TODAY, FUNDING DOESN'T GO TOWARDS THAT. IT WOULD BE JOHNSON ROAD, FOR EXAMPLE, IS A RURAL SECONDARY ROAD. ROUTE ROAD. THERE'S ACTUALLY NOT A WHOLE LOT OF TERRY ROAD I THINK IS. SO THE FIFTH FORMULA IS A FIVE PART FORMULA THAT IS BASED OFF RURAL POPULATION, RURAL RURAL MILEAGES, RURAL MILEAGE OF ROAD IN THAT COUNTY, RURAL AREA BY THE CENSUS. THERE'S TWO MORE PARTS OBVIOUSLY, AND THE GAS TAX. IF GOES INTO THAT FORMULA OF THOSE FIVE PARTS.

AND SO THERE'S SOME COUNTIES THAT WOULD GET A LOT MORE BECAUSE THEY HAVE A LOT MORE RURAL ROAD MILEAGE AND RURAL AREA AND RURAL POPULATION. AND JEFFERSON COUNTY, OF COURSE, DOES NOT. SO. BUT THERE ARE NOT A WHOLE LOT OF RURAL SECONDARY ROADS IN JEFFERSON COUNTY THAT RECEIVE THAT FUNDING. SO, SO BECAUSE OF THAT, IT DOESN'T HAVE AS MUCH OF A DETRIMENTAL EFFECT AS IT WOULD HAVE, BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT MANY ROADS THAT QUALIFY UNDER THAT. CORRECT. AND JEFFERSON COUNTY, I DON'T SEE IT AS A MAJOR PROBLEM. OF COURSE, YOU CAN ALWAYS USE MORE FUNDING EVERYWHERE, BUT IT HURTS SOME OF THE COUNTIES. THIS FIFTH FORMULA HURTS SOME OF THE COUNTIES THAT ARE KIND OF TWEENERS BETWEEN URBAN AREAS AND RURAL, RURAL AREAS, RIGHT? WELL, LET'S CAN WE LET'S GO AHEAD AND HIT KNOCK, KNOCK OUT A FEW OF THEM, A FEW MORE OF THE BIGGER PIECES THAT YOU HAVE ON YOUR LIST THERE. AND THEN WE'LL GET BACK TO SOME QUESTIONS. OKAY. WELL, MY MENTAL LIST FOR THE CONSTRUCTION, OF COURSE, IS THE WHAT WE'RE CALLING CENTRAL CORRIDOR PROJECTS FOR THE BRIDGES ON 65 THROUGH THE DOWNTOWN AREA BETWEEN WATTERSON AND DOWNTOWN. RIGHT NOW, THREE OF THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE OUR HIGHEST PRIORITY. WE'VE SUBMITTED FOR GRANTS FOR

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I CAN MENTION A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE WATERSON AND 42 INTERCHANGE STARTED BACK IN LATE FEBRUARY, EARLY MARCH. THE CONTRACTOR CLEARY IS IS MAKING GREAT PROGRESS. OF COURSE WE HAVE 42 RESTRICTED AT THIS POINT AND THE BIGGEST RESTRICTION IS FOR EASTBOUND TRAFFIC. THEY GO DOWN TO ONE LANE AS OPPOSED TO THE TWO THEY NORMALLY HAD. BUT WE'VE DONE A LOT OF MITIGATION OUT THERE THAT I THINK WE'VE KIND OF MAXIMIZED WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET AS FAR AS ANY ADDITIONAL MITIGATIONS WE'VE DONE. OF COURSE, SIGNING, STRIPING OUR TRAFFIC SIGNALS HAVE RADAR DETECTION AS OPPOSED TO IN LOOP IN LOOP IN PAVEMENT LOOP DETECTION. AND SO THOSE THINGS COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER. AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE BACK AT THE OFFICE AND SEE THE SIGNALS AND HOW THEY'RE PROGRESSING AND MAKE CHANGES ON THE FLY FROM THE OFFICE. THOSE ARE PRETTY BENEFICIAL. WE DO HAVE A CAMERA AT THE INTERCHANGE. WE CAN WATCH AS WELL AND CHANGE SOME SIGNAL TIME AND TIMING THERE AS NEEDED.

SO SO FAR IT'S BEEN PRETTY GOOD. I KNOW RIVER ROAD CLOSURE HAS BEEN A CONTRIBUTOR TO THE TRAFFIC OF 42, BUT THEY'RE THIS MONTH GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO GET TO LIMEKILN INTERSECTION, WHICH SHOULD NEGATE THE DETOUR. PEOPLE FROM COMING UP 42, UNLESS THEY JUST WANT TO DRIVE THROUGH THERE. BUT THAT'S NOT A NECESSITY ANYMORE. SO WATER COMPANY IS MAKING GREAT PROGRESS. OUR CONTRACTORS ARE MAKING GREAT PROGRESS. I CAN'T SPEAK ABOUT THE V.A. HOSPITAL, BUT THEY'RE STILL WELL INTO NEXT YEAR BEFORE THEY OPEN UP.

SO ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT PROJECT OR THE 65 PROJECT? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I'M AT AND YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. YOU KNOW, THE TIMING ON THIS WITH RIVER ROAD AND THE KYTC PROJECT CERTAINLY COMPLICATED THINGS. AND I WILL ALSO SAY THAT I THINK THAT SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT YOU'VE MADE HAVE HELPED MITIGATE SOME OF THE ISSUES. IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE, TO ME AT LEAST, AND I DRIVE IT EVERY DAY AS BAD AS IT COULD HAVE BEEN. SO I APPLAUD YOU FOR THAT. HERE IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MOVING FORWARD. MY OFFICE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY NOTIFICATION THAT THIS WAS GOING. WE ALL KNEW IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN OKAY, BUT WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY NOTIFICATION AT ALL FROM YOUR OFFICE OR ANYONE UNTIL BASICALLY WHEN IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. WE HAD PEOPLE THAT WERE REPORTING BACK TO US THAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT THE SIGN THAT SAID ROAD CLOSURE IN TWO DAYS. WELL, THEY FOUND OUT ABOUT IT BEFORE I DID. SO I'M AND I EVEN TALKED TO MAYOR GREENBERG ABOUT IT. HE SAID THE SAME THING. SO I'M JUST IMPLORING YOUR OFFICE TO BE MORE PROACTIVE, BECAUSE I'VE ALWAYS FOUND THAT PEOPLE ARE THAT MUCH MORE RESPONSIVE AND RECEPTIVE TO BAD NEWS IF THEY CAN PREPARE FOR IT. SO I DO THINK THAT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE DONE HAVE MADE A BAD SITUATION. NOT SO BAD. I DON'T THINK IT'S AS BAD AS PEOPLE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE. NOW, WHEN IT EVENTUALLY DOES OPEN,

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WE JUST TELL THEM WHEN THEY HAVE TO BE DONE BY, WELL, WOULD YOU PUT IT OUT TO BID? DO YOU HAVE A GENERAL IDEA WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO START? NO, NO IDEA WHATSOEVER. IF THEY HAVE A TWO, TWO AND A HALF YEAR PROJECT, THEY COULD DECIDE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO WAIT SIX MONTHS TO START AND THEN KNOCK IT OUT. NO, THAT'S WHY WE A LOT OF TIMES WE DON'T EVEN SEND A PRESS RELEASE OUT THERE UNTIL WE'VE HAD THAT, WHAT WE CALL PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING, WHERE THEY SIT DOWN WITH US, GO OVER THE CONTRACT DETAILS, AND THEY TELL US WE'RE READY TO START IN TWO WEEKS. WE START PUTTING THE MESSAGE BOARDS OUT. WE SEND A PRESS RELEASE OUT. THAT'S WHEN MOST PEOPLE GET THE NOTIFICATION. IF WE'RE GOING TO GET IN FRONT OF THAT, WE'RE GUESSING A LITTLE BIT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN. MR. BULLOCK. YES, SIR. THANKS FOR BEING HERE. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, IN A CONTRACT, YOU PUT SOMETHING OUT FOR BID, YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY DICTATING THE START DATE. SO HOW CAN YOU SAY YOU REQUIRE IT TO BE DONE BY THIS DATE, BUT NOT DICTATE THE START DATE? BECAUSE IF WE HAVE A A YEAR LONG, TWO YEAR LONG, THREE YEAR LONG, FOUR YEAR LONG, THEY CAN WAIT TILL WHENEVER THEY'RE COMFORTABLE TO START. WE CAN'T TELL THEM WHEN TO START. I WILL AGREE TO DISAGREE WITH YOU, BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING. THE WAY THE STATE DOES OUR CONTRACTING. I'M NOT IT'S NOT A LOCAL PREFERENCE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THAT'S HOW WE DO OUR CONTRACTS. WELL, I WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO LOOK INTO THAT. OKAY. SO LET'S LET PEOPLE WEIGH IN. COUNCILMAN PIACENTINI, YOU'RE THE FIRST IN THE QUEUE. SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND AND DO THAT AND THEN WE'LL SEE WHERE WE ARE. WELL, BEFORE I DO, DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER LIST OF PROJECTS THAT YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO YET? BECAUSE I'VE EMAILED I'VE GOT A HALF DOZEN PROJECTS HERE THAT WERE SENT VIA EMAIL THAT YOU HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT YET. I'VE NOT GOTTEN THOSE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

LET ME DO. ALL RIGHT, THEN LET'S DO THIS. CAUSE I DON'T WANT TO WASTE EVERYBODY'S TIME HERE. I'LL SEND YOU SEPARATELY THESE EMAILS THAT WERE SENT BY COUNCILMAN BENSON'S OFFICE IN MY OFFICE ON SEPTEMBER THE 30TH AND OCTOBER THE 1ST. THEY DIDN'T GET TO YOU. WE'LL FIX THAT. I'VE GOT A SERIES OF PROJECTS HERE THAT MAYBE I CAN JUST DO QUICK UPDATES ON. AND THEN I'VE GOT 1 OR 2 COMMENTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS. NORTH ENGLISH STATION. WHEN WHEN IS THAT CONSTRUCTION GOING TO BEGIN? ISH AGAIN. UNDERSTAND YOU DON'T DICTATE START. WHEN IS IT SUPPOSED TO BE DONE? WE WANT TO AND HOPE TO PUT IT OUT TO BID IN JANUARY. OKAY. AND IT'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER ONE THAT WE PUT IT OUT THERE. GET A GOOD BID. AND THE FIRST THING IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS A LOT OF GAS LINE WORK. AND THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE DONE WITH GAS LINES UNTIL PROBABLY AUGUST, SO WE PROBABLY WON'T SEE MUCH ROADWAY WORK UNTIL THIS TIME NEXT YEAR. OKAY. DO YOU KNOW WHEN THAT PROJECT WAS FULLY FUNDED? NO, I DO NOT. ACCORDING TO YOUR WEBSITE, IT DOESN'T INDICATE FULLY FUNDED. IT INDICATES THE PROJECT WAS QUOTE, THE PROJECT WAS PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC IN 2001. SO WE WILL BEGIN CONSTRUCTION IN 2020. IT TAKES THAT IS A ONE AND A HALF MILE STRETCH OF ROAD, AND IT TAKES 25 YEARS TO GO FROM A PRESENTATION TO THE PUBLIC TO BEGINNING CONSTRUCTION. WELL, THIS WAS A METRO PROJECT. IT'S A METRO ROAD AND THE STATE TOOK IT OVER. I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT YEAR THAT WAS. SO I CAN'T SPEAK TO ALL THOSE YEARS PRIOR TO, SAY, THE LAST TEN. THAT'S APPROXIMATELY THE TIME FRAME

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BUT YOU ALL AGREED TO TAKE IT OVER. YES. OKAY. SO IT'S NOT AS THOUGH WE FOISTED UPON YOU.

IT'S. I'M SORRY WE DIDN'T FOISTED UPON YOU AGAINST YOUR WILL, RIGHT? LIKE YOU GUYS ACCEPTED TAKING OVER. I THINK THE THOUGHT BACK IN THOSE DAYS WAS THAT IT WAS LANGUISHING AND NOT MOVING FORWARD. AND SO WE TOOK IT OVER. OKAY. WELL, I MEAN, I CAN TELL YOU, I CAN'T THINK OF A PROJECT. I'VE GOTTEN ROAD PROJECTS FUNDED. I'VE BEEN IN OFFICE FOR SEVEN YEARS, FUNDED WHILE I WAS HERE, AND THEY GOT EXECUTED WHILE I WAS HERE FROM THE CITY. SO, I MEAN, I, I DON'T KNOW WHY IT WAS LANGUISHING OR WHAT WAS GOING ON. I CAN'T SPEAK FOR WHAT HAPPENED 15 YEARS AGO, BUT IT'S A 25 YEAR PROJECT NOW. HOW ABOUT THE EASTWOOD CUTOFF GILLILAND ROAD INTERSECTION WITH US 60? LED TO BID, AWARDED UNDER CONTRACT AND UTILITY RELOCATIONS ARE ONGOING. WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT A YEAR FROM NOW FOR THAT ROADWAY TO BE DONE AS WELL. TO BE DONE. YEP. CONSTRUCTED? YES. AND THEN TWO MORE QUICK PROJECTS. THE WHY THE US 60 WIDENING AND WIDENING IN MIDDLETOWN. I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE ONLY PRELIMINARY DESIGN DONE ON THAT. AND I WILL SAY IT'S NOT A WHOLESALE WIDENING. IT'S SOME ACCESS MANAGEMENT AND SOME TURN LANES. BUT IT'S IN DESIGN RIGHT NOW OKAY. SO DESIGN. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PROBABLY YOU HAVEN'T EVEN DONE RIGHT OF WAY. I MEAN SO NO MANY MANY YEARS AND I'M NOT SURE IN THAT SECTION OF ROADWAY WHERE RIGHT OF WAY IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE NEEDED. I CAN'T SAY FOR NOW, BUT IT'S PRETTY WIDE RIGHT NOW. OKAY. COUNCILMAN BENSON'S OFFICE ASKED ME TO ASK ABOUT THE SIGNALIZATION OF SOUTH POPE LICK AND TAYLORSVILLE ROAD. IT'S COMING. IT'S IT WAS ORIGINALLY GOING TO BE OUR ROADWAY CONTRACTOR, GOING TO BE FUNDED THROUGH THE ROADWAY CONTRACT, BUT THEY HAD PROBLEMS WITH RESOURCES FOR GETTING A SUBCONTRACTOR TO DO THAT. SO WE ENDED UP DOING OUR OWN CONTRACTOR, AND THEY'VE BEEN RUNNING AROUND DOING.

OUT-OF-STATE WORK FOR OTHER OTHER STATES AND RELOCATIONS. SO THAT IS COMING HERE IN THE NEXT TWO MONTHS PROBABLY. OKAY. AND THEN SO I HAVE A COUPLE OTHER PROJECTS HERE. MOST OF THEM ARE STUDIES. ONE IS RELATED TO THE HIGHWAY STUDY ON FOR THE NEW EXIT ON 64. THAT'LL GO IN THE EASTERN AREA OF JEFFERSON COUNTY. ANOTHER ONE, THE JOHNSON ROAD RECONSTRUCTION PLAN. I'LL EMAIL THIS TO YOU AND YOU CAN RESPOND THERE SO AS NOT TO WASTE TIME HERE ON PROBABLY BROADER QUESTIONS, I WOULD REQUEST. AND THEN A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT SOMETHING. FIRST OF ALL, THE THE 64 EASTBOUND 265 NORTHBOUND EXIT RAMP WHERE THE OVERPASS IS, IT'S SETTLING EVEN MORE. YOU GUYS TRIED TO FIX IT. IT'S SETTLING AGAIN, PARTICULARLY THE RIGHT LANE. I MEAN, THE BUMP IS GETTING BIGGER EVERY DAY. I TAKE IT BASICALLY EVERY DAY. AND IT'S IT'S JUST GETTING WORSE AND WORSE SOMEHOW THAT NEEDS TO BE SMOOTHED OUT BECAUSE IT'S GETTING WORSE AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO START GETTING VEHICLE DAMAGE. BUT MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS WHY? SO YOU SAID YOU HAD 350 PROJECTS. HOW MANY? OKAY. AND I LOOKED AT THE WEBSITE. RIGHT.

WHICH ISN'T DOESN'T HAVE 350 PROJECTS ON IT, BUT IT HAS A LOT AND A LOT BEING IN JEFFERSON COUNTY. TO YOUR POINT, THE VAST MAJORITY, WHY CAN'T WE BY WE YOU CREATE A SPREADSHEET THAT HAS 350 PROJECTS ON IT THAT HAS, YOU KNOW, YOUR PROCESS IS DESIGN, RIGHT OF WAY, UTILITY, MOVEMENT, CONSTRUCTION, RIGHT. AND PUT BROAD BRUSH STROKE TIME FRAMES IN THERE SO THAT WE CAN INFORM BECAUSE I MEAN, ALL WE GET I MEAN I GET EVERY SINGLE DAY QUESTIONS ABOUT STATE PROJECTS. OKAY, I HIGHLIGHTED A FEW OF THEM, BUT THERE'S OTHERS THAT I GET QUESTIONS ABOUT. AND I'M ALWAYS PLAYING THIS GAME OF I HAVE NO IDEA. IT'S A LITTLE LESS TACTICAL THAN WHAT COUNCILMAN REID IS TALKING ABOUT, BUT IS THERE ANY WAY AND WHY WOULD THAT BE SO HARD? I MEAN, YOU HAVE PROJECT MANAGERS THAT ARE MANAGING THIS STUFF TO PUT THAT INTO A MASTER SPREADSHEET THAT, AGAIN, VERY HIGH LEVEL. RIGHT. IT COULD SAY, YOU KNOW, DATE RANGES, THAT COULD BE YEARS. RIGHT. BUT AT LEAST I COULD TELL PEOPLE, HEY, LOOK AT THAT SPREADSHEET ONLINE OR HEY, I'VE GOT IT HERE. AND IT SAYS IT'S GOING TO BE FIVE MORE YEARS TILL THEY GET THROUGH RIGHT OF WAY, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY OR WHATEVER THE DEAL IS. SO, WELL, YOU'VE MENTIONED TWO THINGS WE HAVE. WE DO HAVE A SPREADSHEET WITH ALL THOSE 350 PROJECTS, BUT I WOULD SAY ONLY 10% OR LESS OF THOSE ACTUALLY HAVE FUNDING THAT WE ACTUALLY ARE DOING ANYTHING ON. SO SPECULATION FOR THE 90%. SO LET'S FOCUS ON THE 10%. CAN WE GET A SPREADSHEET THAT HAS DATE RANGES FOR EACH OF THOSE SEGMENTS OF THE PROJECT ONCE

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GREAT. THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN BETH. HELLO. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY. I WANT TO ASK SOMETHING THAT I THINK A LOT OF US WHO COUNSEL OUR AREAS AND OUR CONSTITUENTS THAT LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE WONDERING IS, HOW DO WE GET TO A PLACE WHERE WE'RE BEING PROACTIVE VERSUS REACTIVE? I GUESS FROM WHERE I SIT, IT KIND OF FEELS LIKE WE'RE ALWAYS WAITING UNTIL AFTER A CRASH OR FATALITY AFTER A TRAGEDY. SO HOW MANY FATALITIES DOES IT TAKE BEFORE SOMETHING GETS DONE? AND WHEN IS THE NEXT LIFE LOST? WORTH MAKING THE CHANGES TO THESE ROADS? AS COUNCIL WE LIVE IN THESE DISTRICTS. WE SEE THE ISSUES. WE SEE THE PROBLEMS, OUR CONSTITUENTS SEE IT. AND THE TRAFFIC STUDIES DO NOT NEARLY COMPARE TO WHAT WE SEE IN OUR DAILY LIVES. WHEN WE LIVE IN OUR AREA, WE HAVE PEOPLE COMING OUT INTO THE AREA DOING THESE TRAFFIC STUDIES THAT DON'T LIVE THERE. THEY DON'T SEE IT. AND TO BE HONEST, I THINK THEY'RE HORRIBLE. A LOT OF TIMES THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE A LINE. WHAT WE SEE ON A DAILY BASIS. AND JUST TO THROW OUT, YOU KNOW, DIXIE HIGHWAY, BLEVINS GAP, EAST ORO, THE GREEN BELT, TERRY ROAD, JOHNSON TOWN ROAD, ALL OF THESE AREAS. WE JUST HAD ANOTHER FATALITY YESTERDAY ON DIXIE HIGHWAY IN THE THREE MILE STRETCH THAT WE'VE BEEN COMPLAINING ABOUT FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS. WE CAN'T GET TRAFFIC LIGHTS. WE CAN'T GET, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THESE HEAD ON COLLISIONS AND QUOTE ME IF I'M WRONG IN THE LAST, HOW MANY FATALITIES ARE WE UP TO NOW? AS OF LAST NIGHT, 18 IN 3 YEARS, 18 FATALITIES IN THREE YEARS IN THE SAME THREE MILE STRETCH, NOT INCLUDING PEDESTRIANS HIT AND SEVERE ACCIDENTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN THESE SAME AREAS BY FLIER. BLEVINS GAP BY THE GENE SNYDER CITATION ROAD, VALLEY STATION ROAD, ALL IN A THREE MILE STRETCH THAT'S 18 LIVES WHERE WE'VE BEEN BEGGING FOR SOMETHING TO GET DONE. SO WHAT, IN YOUR OPINION, DO WE NEED TO DO HERE TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES TO SAVE A LIFE? WELL, YOU THREW A LOT AT ME THERE BECAUSE LOOKING AT THE CRASH DATA, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR THOSE FATALITIES, THERE'S A WHOLE WIDE RANGE OF ISSUES. YOU HAVE HEAD ON COLLISIONS. YOU HAVE PEOPLE WALKING ON THE SHOULDER OR RIGHT AT THE EDGE LINE AT NIGHT IN DARK CLOTHES. YOU HAVE PEOPLE RUNNING ACROSS THE ROAD.

YOU HAVE PEOPLE IN WHEELCHAIR OR BIKE DOING THOSE SIMILAR THINGS. SO IT REALLY IS WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING. I TALKED TO PEOPLE WEEKLY ABOUT THE NEED FOR TRAFFIC SIGNALS ALL OVER THE PLACE, AND TRAFFIC SIGNAL WOULDN'T HAVE DONE ANYTHING FOR THE MOST RECENT HEAD ON COLLISION AND THE PREVIOUS HEAD ON COLLISION, OR THE OR THE PEDESTRIAN THAT WAS HIT MOST RECENTLY, OR THE PERSON IN THE WHEELCHAIR ON THE SHOULDER. THOSE TYPES OF THINGS AREN'T ADDRESSED BY TRAFFIC SIGNALS, AND IN FACT, TRAFFIC SIGNALS CAN INDUCE ADDITIONAL TYPES OF CRASHES THAT WEREN'T AT AN INTERSECTION BEFORE. SO THAT'S WHY WE WEIGH ALL THOSE FACTORS.

BUT I WANT TO HIT YOUR THE FIRST POINT THAT YOU MADE WAS THESE TRAFFIC. I'M SORRY. THESE THESE STUDIES, THESE CORRIDOR STUDIES THAT WE DO ARE GATHERING ALL THAT INFORMATION, INCLUDING LOCAL ELECTED OFFICIAL MEETINGS AT THE FRONT ENDS PUBLIC MEETINGS, USUALLY TWICE DURING THAT TIME FRAME. AND THEN OUR CONSULTANT IS PULLING ALL THE CRASH DATA.

THAT'S THROUGH THE STATE POLICE DATABASE. SO BESIDES GETTING ALL THE DATA THAT'S IN THERE AND TALKING TO THE LOCALS, INCLUDING THE ELECTED OFFICIALS, I'M NOT SURE WHERE ELSE WE'RE GOING TO GATHER INFORMATION THAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING. OF COURSE, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, A LOT OF TIMES THOSE STUDIES, WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME, WE TALK TO PEOPLE, WE PUT A REPORT TOGETHER, AND IF WE DON'T HAVE A MECHANISM FOR FUNDING ANY ASPECT OF THAT MOVING FORWARD, THEN IT'S GOING TO GO ON THE SHELF AND WE'RE GOING TO DO A STUDY SOMEWHERE ELSE. SO IT'S IT'S MANAGING AND BALANCING THE NEEDS AND THE FUNDING. AND IT'S ALWAYS A FUNDING ISSUE BECAUSE

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WE'RE ALSO, TO YOUR EARLIER POINT, BY THE FEDERAL REGULATIONS THAT WE FOLLOW, AREN'T ALLOWED TO PUT IN A SIGNAL TO MANAGE SPEED. IT IS FOR TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT, AS IN PEOPLE ON SIDE STREETS OR THE VOLUME ON THE MAIN LINE AND SO FORTH. SO THERE'S THAT. SO THE DISTANCE BETWEEN SIGNALS, UNLESS THEY'RE TOO CLOSE, IS NOT NEVER A FACTOR. IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT TRAFFIC VOLUMES FROM THE SIDE STREET. AND USUALLY YOU HAVE TO HAVE 105. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT CAME FROM 105 PER HOUR FROM THE SIDE STREETS, COMING OUT FOR EIGHT HOURS OF THE DAY. AND THE REASON IT'S FOR THAT MANY HOURS OF THE DAY IS THAT EVERY SINGLE SCHOOL IN JEFFERSON COUNTY WOULD HAVE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL IN FRONT OF IT BECAUSE OF THE ARRIVALS IN THE MORNING AND DEPARTURES IN THE AFTERNOON. SO IT'S NOT FOR SPEED MANAGEMENT, IT IS FOR TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT. AND SO WE ALSO LOOK AT CRASH TYPES AT INTERSECTIONS. SO WE HAVE WHAT WE CALL COLLECTIBLES. SO COLLECTIBLES ARE THOSE ANGLE CRASHES SOMEBODY PULLING OUT AND GETTING HIT. AND SO A SIGNAL COULD POTENTIALLY HELP WITH THAT. BUT IF THERE'S A WHOLE SLEW OF REAR END COLLISIONS AT THIS INTERSECTION, TRAFFIC SIGNAL CAN ACTUALLY MAKE THOSE WORSE. SO IT'S AGAIN, IT'S A BALANCE OF WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE AND WHAT WE THINK WE CAN HELP. BUT IT'S REALLY BOILS DOWN TO THE TRAFFIC NUMBERS MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

AND DO YOU HAVE THE NUMBERS FOR DIXIE HIGHWAY RECENTLY, SINCE ALL THE INFLUX OF APARTMENTS HAVE WENT IN IN THAT AREA? NO. WE'VE BEEN ASKED ABOUT ORAL INTERSECTION A BUNCH OF TIMES, AND WE HAVE COUNTED THAT AND IT WASN'T REALLY EVEN CLOSE. NOT AWARE OF ONE NORTH OR SOUTH OF THERE WHERE WE'VE BEEN ASKED SPECIFICALLY ABOUT DOING A WARRANT ANALYSIS, AS WE CALL IT.

OKAY. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN HUDSON. THANK YOU. CHAIR, I WANT TO REVISIT COUNCILMAN REED'S POINT ABOUT GETTING NOTICE EARLIER IN THE PROCESS. AND YOUR RESPONSE WAS, WELL, ONCE WE LET THE CONTRACT, IT'S UP TO THE CONTRACTOR TO DECIDE WHEN THEY START. THE CONTRACT IS NOTHING MORE THAN A LIST OF SPECIFICATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS. WHY COULDN'T YOU PUT A REQUIREMENT IN THE CONTRACT THAT THE CONTRACTOR PROVIDE? YOU NOTICE 30 DAYS IN ADVANCE OF THEIR START? IF IT INVOLVES LANE CLOSURES IN PARTICULARLY HIGH VOLUME PLACES OR AN INTERSTATE, THEN WE SHOOT FOR 30 DAYS TO GET THAT, AND WE GET THAT MOST OF THE TIMES, BUT NOT ALWAYS, PARTICULARLY ON A SURFACE STREET, NOT AN INTERSTATE. WE ONLY ASK FOR TWO WEEKS IN THAT REGARD, BUT I JUST CHOSE 30 DAYS OUT OF ARBITRARY NUMBERS. WHY COULDN'T WE PUT IN THE CONTRACT A PERIOD OF TIME IN ADVANCE OF WORK THAT THE CONTRACTOR NOTIFIES YOUR OFFICE OF THEIR START DATE? THAT IS TYPICALLY TWO WEEKS FOR US. BUT WHEN COUNCILMAN REED JUST ASKED YOU ABOUT IT, YOU SAID IT WAS YOU. DON'T YOU NEVER KNOW. IT'S UP TO THEM TO START. YEAH, BUT THEN THEY. YEAH. TO LET US KNOW WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO START THE CONTRACT DOESN'T SAY YOU HAVE TO START ON JANUARY 1ST. THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M ASKING. YEAH. THE

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OKAY. I HAD A SECOND. IF I CAN GO AHEAD RIGHT NOW IT'S AGAINST STATE LAW OR THERE'S THERE'S A PROHIBITION IN STATE LAW TO HAVE AUTOMATED SPEED ENFORCEMENT. DOES THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION HAVE ANY INFLUENCE THAT THEY COULD HELP TO CHANGE THAT LAW SO THAT WE COULD HAVE AUTOMATED SPEED ENFORCEMENT? WE'VE HAD LEGISLATORS COME TO US, AND WE HAVE A FINE SET OF FOLKS IN FRANKFORT THAT WORK FOR TRANSPORTATION THAT ARE LEGISLATIVE LIAISONS, THAT WHEN BILLS COME IN THAT ARE TRANSPORTATION RELATED, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT BECAUSE IT HAS COME UP IN THE PAST, WE REVIEW AND WE WE GIVE OUR PROFESSIONAL OPINIONS, BUT WE HAVE NO INFLUENCE. WE CAN'T DICTATE. WE ARE CERTAINLY IN SUPPORT OF AUTOMATED SPEED ENFORCEMENT, RED LIGHT RUNNING CAMERAS AND THE LIKE. BUT RIGHT NOW, IT'S NOT LEGISLATIVELY ALLOWABLE. NOW WE DO HAVE HYBRID ENFORCEMENT. THAT'S A NEW LAW THAT WE'RE STARTING THIS YEAR, WHICH YOU MAY HAVE SEEN US SEND SOME STUFF ABOUT, WHICH IS IN WORK ZONES FOCUSED. ENFORCEMENT, WHERE A CAMERA SYSTEM WILL PICK UP A VEHICLE GOING THROUGH A WORK ZONE, WHERE IT'S REDUCED SPEED LIMITS, AND THERE'LL BE AN OFFICER AT THE END OF THE LINE THERE, AND THEY'LL HAVE A PICTURE OF THE CAR WITH THE LICENSE PLATES SENT TO THEM, AND THEY CAN WRITE THEM A TICKET, AND IT IS $500, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE NEW LAW SAYS. BUT THAT'S THE ONLY THING WHERE WE HAVE AUTOMATED IT'S CALLED HYBRID. AUTOMATED IS WHAT THAT SYSTEM IS. BUT THE OTHER SYSTEMS WE DON'T HAVE BUT TRANSPORTATION CABINET CERTAINLY IS IN FAVOR OF SOME KIND OF AUTOMATED ENFORCEMENT MOVING FORWARD, BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE WITH CRASHES ARE SPEED.

BUT INATTENTION OR AGGRESSIVE DRIVING, IS YOUR OFFICE DOING ANYTHING PROACTIVELY IN THAT REGARD? SENDING A LETTER TO THE LEGISLATURE ASKING FOR MY OFFICE? NO, BUT THAT'S WHAT OUR KENNY BISHOP AND AND OUR FRANKFORT OFFICE IS THE ONE THAT'S IS OUR COMMUNICATOR FOR THE LEGISLATURE. AND THAT HAS BEEN WELL COMMUNICATED IN PREVIOUS LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS WHEN THE BILL HAS COME AT LEAST TO COMMITTEE. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU. CHAIR.

COUNCILWOMAN MCCRANEY. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. HI, MATT. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE IF MY LIST GOT TO YOU. I THINK I SENT IT THE OTHER DAY, SO YOU MAY NOT HAVE RECEIVED IT, BUT I DO WANT TO COMMUNICATE A VERY DANGEROUS AND DEADLY AREA RIGHT THERE GOING I-71 TOWARDS DOWNTOWN, RIGHT AT THE I-71 NORTHBOUND SPLIT. WHEN YOU'RE ON 264, THERE ARE LINES THAT DON'T CLEARLY INDICATE THAT THE THE AREA HAS MERGED INTO ONE LANE. SO IS THERE ANY WAY YOU CAN LOOK AT. AND I HAVE SENT SOME PICTURES. SO I WILL SEND THEM TO YOU DIRECTLY. BUT RIGHT THERE, RIGHT BEFORE THE I-71 SPLIT NORTHBOUND TOWARDS CINCINNATI, THE THE THE LANES STOP AND YOU CAN'T CLEARLY TELL MOTORISTS ARE STILL IN IN THE LEFT LANE THINKING THAT THEY'RE GOING STRAIGHT WHEN THERE ARE CARS ON THE RIGHT LANE WHO SHOULD BE GOING TOWARDS I-71 NORTHBOUND, BUT THEY'RE CLEARLY NOT IN THE RIGHT LANE BECAUSE THE LANES KIND OF MERGE TOGETHER AND THEY'RE NOT CLEARLY INDICATING THAT THEY ARE TO MERGE OVER TO GO STRAIGHT TOWARDS 264. AND THERE ARE NO THERE ARE THERE ARE SIGNS THAT THAT INDICATE OVER TO THE LEFT HAND SIDE THAT THERE'S A MERGER COMING, BUT IT'S IT'S AFTER THE FACT. IT NEEDS TO BE MOVED UP A BIT. AND THOSE LINES NEED TO BE CLEARLY MARKED AND SOME ERASED BECAUSE IT'S NOT DISTINGUISHABLE. DO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT?

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AND ACTUALLY, SINCE THE LANES WERE SHIFTED DUE TO THE MAINTENANCE OF TRAFFIC, THE OLD LANE LINES ARE KIND OF SOMEWHAT VISIBLE. AND THERE'S SOME POTHOLES IN THE OLD LINE THERE.

SO IT LOOKED LIKE TO ME THAT IT WAS MORE ABOUT REFRESHING. WELL, WE NEED TO GET THE POTHOLES FILLED IN THERE, BUT REFRESHING THOSE LINES SO THAT IT WAS MORE DISTINGUISHABLE. REVIEW THE SIGNS AS WELL. BUT I DID SEE THE 1500 FEET AHEAD LEFT LANE CLOSED, BUT AS YOU KNOW THAT THEY'RE COMING TWO LANES EASTBOUND. WATERSON, YOU START TO DROP THAT LEFT HAND LANE ON THE WATERSON. IF YOU WANT TO GO 71 TO DOWNTOWN. BUT THEN WE DEVELOP THE RIGHT TURN LANE TO GO 71 NORTH. SO WHERE YOU'RE DROPPING ONE, YOU'RE ADDING ONE. WE NEED BETTER LINES ON THERE.

SO YEAH I AGREE WITH THAT. THAT'S EXACTLY CORRECT. THANK YOU SO SO MUCH. I ALMOST WRECKED MY NO MY HUSBAND ALMOST WRECKED NOT ME. BUT I ALSO WANTED TO INDICATE THERE ON HER LANE IN FRONT OF THE WILDER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, THE LINES FOR THE CROSSING NEEDS TO BE REDRAWN AND ON BOTH SIDES. THERE SHOULD BE AN INDICATION FOR THE MOTORIST THAT THERE'S A CROSSING WALK. AND ON THE EASTBOUND SIDE. I WANT TO BELIEVE THAT'S THE RIGHT WAY.

COMING FROM LIME KIM GOING UP HER LANE THAT DIRECTION. I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S A SIGN THERE. AND I CAN AGAIN SEND YOU THAT INFORMATION AND DETAIL. BUT IS THIS YOUR ROAD TO WHERE YOU CAN GET THOSE LINES REDRAWN SO THAT THEY ARE CLEARLY INDICATING THE CROSSING WALK? YEAH, IT'S A STATE ROAD, BUT PUBLIC WORKS TAKES CARE OF THE ROAD FOR US BY CONTRACT. SO WE'LL TALK WITH THEM ABOUT REFRESHING THOSE IF NEEDED. I DO KNOW THERE'S AT LEAST ONE SIGN. THERE SHOULD BE A SIGN IN EACH DIRECTION THAT INDICATES THERE IS A CROSSWALK THERE, BUT THERE ARE NO FLASHING LIGHTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO WE'LL SEE ABOUT REFRESHING THE MARKINGS. ARE THERE NO FLASHING LIGHTS THAT CAN BE THERE? JUST A PEDESTRIAN SIGN ON THE EAST SIDE IS WHAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE THERE. OKAY. ON EACH SIDE THERE'S ONE MISSING ON ONE SIDE OF IT. SO IF YOU CAN JUST CHECK THAT OUT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE'LL DO. COUNCILMAN. THANK YOU, MR. BULLOCK IN THE NEW CUT ROAD, TAYLOR BOULEVARD STUDY. WHAT PROMPTED THAT STUDY? I GUESS I CAN'T ANSWER THAT BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE WHAT PROMPTED THE STUDY. OUTER LOOP, MINOR'S LANE, OLD SHEP, WHAT PROMPTED THAT STUDY? WELL, I GUESS PROBABLY AN OVERARCHING ANSWER TO ANY OF THE STUDIES WE HAVE ON THESE LARGER CORRIDORS IN LOUISVILLE AREA IS WE RELY ON OUR PARTNERS OVER AT THEY DO REGIONAL ANALYSIS. THEY HAVE, OF COURSE, THE DATA. THEY HAVE SOCIO ECONOMIC, THEY HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL, THEY HAVE THE CRASHES, THEY HAVE THE TRAFFIC VOLUMES. AND IT KIND OF FROM A NETWORK STANDPOINT IN LOUISVILLE AREA SHOWS THESE AREAS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO CALL THEM HOT SPOTS. AND SOMETIMES IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, WORD OF MOUTH THAT WE HEAR THAT THERE ARE ISSUES ON PARTICULAR ROADS. AND SO WHEN THE PLANNING FUNDS BECOME AVAILABLE, WE LOOK AT THOSE THINGS THAT ARE KIND OF ALREADY ON THE THE WAIT LIST AND WE GO FROM THERE. MY REASON FOR ASKING THAT IS I WANTED TO KNOW SPECIFICS OF WHAT THOSE STUDIES, WHAT PROMPTED THOSE STUDIES, HOW MANY DEATHS WERE ON NEW CUT AND TAYLOR BOULEVARD, HOW MANY DEATHS ARE AT OUTER LOOP AND MINOR LANE? HOW MANY DEATHS ARE AT BARDSTOWN ROAD WHERE THESE STUDIES WERE DONE? I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBERS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. HOW MANY DEATHS IS IT GOING TO TAKE FOR A STUDY TO BE DONE ON DIXIE HIGHWAY FROM BLEVINS GAP TO FLORAVILLE? WE DON'T BASE IT ON THE NUMBER OF DEATHS. HOW CAN WE GET, IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION, A STUDY DONE AT BLEVINS GAP TO FLORAVILLE. WE CAN LOOK AT THE DATA TO SEE WHAT IT SAYS AND AND GO FROM THERE. AND I'VE BEEN EMAILING YOU ABOUT THIS CORRIDOR SINCE I TOOK OFFICE IN 23, SINCE JANUARY OF 23. AND WE'VE BASICALLY BEEN TOLD TO KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD. I WOULD LIKE TO GET A STUDY DONE AT BLEVINS GAP TO FLORAVILLE, AND SOMETHING TO BE DONE ABOUT THE TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES ON DIXIE HIGHWAY CORRIDOR, AND A LITTLE MORE RESPECT FOR THE SOUTH END OF LOUISVILLE, FRANKLY, BECAUSE WE ARE CONSTANTLY THE REDHEADED STEPCHILD. HOW MANY? TWO. TWO. COUNCILWOMAN BASS POINT, WHO IS THE RIGHT PERSON THAT NEEDS TO DIE FOR SOMETHING TO GET DONE? THIS IS ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS.

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NOBODY HAS OFFERED TO PAY FOR ANYTHING OUT IN THIS AREA THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT I'M AWARE OF. I'LL. I WILL FIND THAT EMAIL. WE DON'T LET DEVELOPERS OR ANYBODY PAY FOR SIGNALS IF THEY'RE NOT WARRANTED. SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND. IF THEY DON'T MEET THE CRITERIA, THEN NOBODY CAN PAY FOR THEM. WHEN DO WE GET THE STUDY TO MEET THE CRITERIA TO TELL US THAT THAT IS WARRANTED? TRAFFIC SIGNAL, ANYTHING. YOU CAN NAME ANY INTERSECTION YOU THINK DESERVES A TRAFFIC SIGNAL. AND WE CAN LOOK AT ANY OF THOSE. OKAY, I'LL GIVE YOU A GREAT EXAMPLE. LAST WEEK IN ZONING DISTRICT 19 WAS GOING TO OVERTURN A PLANNING AND ZONING CASE FOR A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AT THE EASTWOOD SHELBYVILLE ROAD INTERSECTION BECAUSE THERE WAS NO TRAFFIC SIGNAL. COMES BACK, DECIDES NOT TO OVERTURN THE CASE BECAUSE THE STATE HAS AGREED TO PUT A TRAFFIC SIGNAL IN. HOW DOES THAT WORK? I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. WELL, THEN IT OBVIOUSLY CAME OUT OF YOUR DEPARTMENT, SO I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO LOOK THAT UP AND JUST MAYBE LET ME KNOW OFFLINE ABOUT A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT EASTWOOD.

IT'S AT EASTWOOD AND SHELBYVILLE ROAD. AM I, AM I CORRECT THE VPI PARK OR WHATEVER IT WAS? JOHNSON ROAD, SORRY. JOHNSON ROAD WE THERE'S NOT A SIGNAL. THERE'S NOT A SIGNAL WARRANT THAT WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING AT A POTENTIAL SIGNAL AT OUR NEW PROJECTS WHERE WE'RE REALIGNING EASTWOOD COMING OUT ON SHELBYVILLE ROAD. THAT'S OKAY. YES, BUT NOT JOHNSON ROAD.

AND THE LIGHT IS GOING TO GO IN AT THAT INTERSECTION THERE. AND IT WAS IT'S IT'S NOT GOING IN WITH THE PROJECT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND I UNDERSTAND, BUT YOUR DEPARTMENT SAID YES WE WILL PUT THAT IN IF IT IS WARRANTED, WHICH I ASSUME IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE, BECAUSE HOW MANY DEATHS ARE AT THAT INTERSECTION? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT EITHER. WELL, I'D LIKE TO KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT IF YOU CAN LOOK THAT UP. OKAY, BUT DEATHS AREN'T WHAT WARRANTS SIGNALS ON ITS OWN. LIKE I SAID BEFORE, IT'S THE TRAFFIC. I DON'T CARE IF IT'S THE STOPLIGHT OR MEDIANS DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD. I THINK WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING FOR TRAFFIC CALMING IN THE SOUTH END ON DIXIE HIGHWAY, PERIOD. AND WE WOULD LIKE YOUR SUPPORT IN MAKING THAT HAPPEN. AS THE DIRECTOR OF THE TRAFFIC, AS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR THE STATE AND THE CITY, WELL, YOU HAVE OUR SUPPORT AND WE'VE DONE A LOT OF THINGS. WE JUST HAVEN'T GONE BEYOND THE GREENWOOD ROAD WITH THE PROJECT THAT WE DID UP, UP FRONT, BECAUSE THAT WAS ABOUT $75 MILLION. BUT WE'VE IDENTIFIED SOME SPOTS JUST THAT ARE NOT FUNDED, BUT TRAFFIC SIGNALS AREN'T PART OF THAT EQUATION. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BARRIER WALL, PARTICULARLY SOUTH OF THE SNYDER AND ACTUALLY SOUTH OF 44 ALL THE WAY TO THE HARDIN COUNTY LINE, BECAUSE THE NUMBER OF HEAD ONS THERE, SEVERAL YEARS AGO, WE ADDED FOUR FEET TO THE MEDIAN AND STOLE FROM THE SHOULDERS. AND I THINK THAT'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL. BUT IT'S NOT A HARD BARRIER. BUT ANYTIME YOU HAVE A HARD BARRIER, YOU GOT TO PROTECT THOSE ENDS OR ELSE YOU'RE GOING TO KILL PEOPLE ON THE EDGES OF THOSE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE STUDIES AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO MOVE FORWARD. OKAY. THOSE ARE INDIVIDUAL TRAFFIC STUDIES OR TRAFFIC SIGNAL STUDIES, NOT CORRIDOR. WE HAVE NOT DONE A CORRIDOR STUDY FOR THAT SECTION OF DIXIE. YET. WE HAVE A FEW MORE PEOPLE IN THE QUEUE.

COUNCILMAN JOSEPH THANK YOU. YEAH, I'VE BEEN IN FOR EIGHT MONTHS AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS. WELL, SORRY, SEVERAL OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS WE HAVE HAD WITH GREENWOOD ROAD, YOU KNOW, SINCE I'VE BEEN LITTLE, THAT HAS BEEN THE IT FEELS IF THERE'S A ROAD THAT FEELS LIKE THE CAN HAS BEEN KICKED DOWN THE ROAD, IT FEELS LIKE THE GREENWOOD. AND, YOU KNOW, EVEN LAST YEAR WHEN I WOULD GO DOOR TO DOOR, IT LIKE THE CONSTANT NEIGHBOR PIECE IS, WELL, WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT FOR YEARS. WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT FOR YEARS, AND I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO TELL THEM BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO TELL THEM. TERRY ROAD, I KNOW YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT A MINUTE AGO. I HAD TO SEND AN EMAIL ON TERRY TO HAVE SOMETHING LOOKED AT, AND IT TOOK ME OUT. I SENT AN EMAIL AND I'LL NEVER FORGET IT. IT SAID, HELLO. I AM FOLLOWING UP

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WE'RE RIGHT NOW. A FENCE IS JUST LIKE, LITERALLY LIKE DILAPIDATED AND I LIKE, I JUST FEEL LIKE I'M GETTING NO COMMUNICATION BACK. AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE MOST HOT TOPICS OF MY DISTRICT AND I DON'T KNOW, COMMUNICATION WISE, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE OF HOW THE COMMUNICATION CAN BE BETTER. I SYMPATHIZE. I'M RIGHT THERE WITH COUNCILMAN SHAWN WHEN IT COMES TO FEELING LIKE THE SOUTH END IS CONTINUOUSLY THE FORGOTTEN AREA, AND I JUST, I GUESS COMMUNICATION WISE, WHAT ARE T WHAARE SOME GOOD TIPS IN REGARDS TO COMMUNICATION WITH WITH THE STAT WN IT COMES STE RDS?L, I WANT C U U LIKED THE ANSWER BECAUSE WE DN'T SAY THATT WARRANTED THE FENCE WAS EITHER GOING TO GET REPAIRED BY PUBLIC WORKS OR WE SAID IT DIDN'T NEED ONE AT ALL BECAUSE OF THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE ROADWAY. SO THERE WAS COMMUNICATION ON THAT ABOUT REPLACING OR PUTTING A GUARD OVER THERE WHERE THERE WAS A FENCE. YEAH. THE, THE, THE FENCE THAT'S DILAPIDATED, THAT'S ON A STATE ROAD THAT IS LITERALLY FALLING APART AND A HUGE DITCH WHERE IF A CAR WERE TO GO OVER THAT FENCE, THE FENCE WASN'T GOING TO STOP THE CAR. SO YOU'RE CORRECT, THE FENCE ISN'T GOING TO STOP A CAR, BUT A GUARDRAIL WOULD. WELL, IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T MEET THE WARRANTS FOR GUARDRAIL BECAUSE OF THE DISTANCE AWAY FROM THE ROADWAY. OR ELSE WE PUT A GUARDRAIL IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY'S HOUSE. AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S BUT EVERYBODY'S HOUSE ISN'T A 50 MILE AN HOUR. I WANT TO CLARIFY WHERE YOU GOT THE COMMUNICATION OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. THERE ARE VERY SPECIFIC REGULATIONS OR VERY SPECIFIC KIND OF GUIDELINES THAT THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW. I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE SOME, SOME GUIDELINES THAT THEY HAVE TO WORK WITHIN AS WELL. IT WASN'T A MATTER, THOUGH, OF JUST THE MATTER OF NOT GETTING AN ANSWER THAT I WOULD, QUOTE UNQUOTE, WANT. IT'S A MATTER OF THE THE LACK OF COMMUNICATION, THE LENGTH OF COMMUNICATION. AND IF I EVER GET COMMUNICATION BACK HAS BEEN A BIG ISSUE. AND AGAIN, NOT KNOWING TWO OF THE HEAVY ROADS IN MY DISTRICT, I LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M I'M THE ELECTED REPRESENTATIVE OF THE THE END OF THE DAY, THEY'RE NOT COMING TO YOU. THEY'RE NOT COMING TO ANYBODY IN REGARDS TO ANYBODY WITH A STATE. THEY'RE COMING TO US AND WE DON'T HAVE ANSWERS. AND THAT'S THE FRUSTRATING PART. AND I'VE TRIED TO GET ANSWERS. AND SO I'M IN A WEIRD SPOT OF WHAT DO I TELL THE PEOPLE WHEN I'M LITERALLY ELECTED TO REPRESENT THE PEOPLE IN THAT IN THAT SPOT SPECIFICALLY? I KNOW SOME PEOPLE PREFER TO HAVE ALL CONSTITUENT COMMUNICATIONS COME THROUGH THEM TO THE AGENCY OR WHATEVER, AND I GET THAT. I'M FINE WITH THAT. BUT YOU ALSO CAN JUST SAY, HERE'S WHO YOU NEED TO CALL AND THEY CAN ADDRESS IT. I MEAN, WE DO THAT ALL DAY, EVERY DAY. I MEAN, WE GET AN UNBELIEVABLE AMOUNT OF STUFF THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA AND OUR GENERAL INBOX, AS WELL AS WHEN PEOPLE KNOW INDIVIDUAL EMAIL ADDRESSES, THEY GO DIRECTLY TO US THAT ARE Y'ALL'S CONSTITUENTS. SO IT'S AN UNBELIEVABLE AMOUNT THAT YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT. SO I'M FINE WITH EITHER WAY BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO GET A LOT NO MATTER WHAT. BUT IF YOU WANT TO COME THROUGH YOU AND YOU COME TO US AND YOU FEEL LIKE THAT, YOU'RE ADDRESSING YOUR CONSTITUENTS, I GET THAT, AND THAT'S STILL FINE. BUT I'M JUST I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE GETTING A TON OTHERWISE. SO THEN WOULDN'T IT MAKE SENSE FOR US TO HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN REGARDS TO, RATHER THAN Y'ALL HAVING TO BLAST OUT TO CONSTITUENTS OR WHATNOT THAT WE HAVE? YOU COULD LOOK AT IT BOTH WAYS. YOU WANT TO BE IN THE KNOW. OBVIOUSLY YOU WANT TO BE IN THE KNOW FOR YOUR CONSTITUENTS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF EVERYTHING COMES THROUGH YOU, THEN YOU MAY GET TO THE POINT WHERE YOU CAN'T ADDRESS EVERYTHING IN A TIMELY FASHION, EITHER EVEN YOUR LEGISLATIVE AIDE. BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, IT'S A LOT. SO 26 COUNCIL PEOPLE HERE AND 37 LEGISLATIVE STATE ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT WE WE WORK WITH IN OUR DISTRICT. CAN YOU TELL ME WITH GREENWOOD ROAD THAT'S HITTING TWO DISTRICTS AND TERRY ROAD THAT'S HITTING THREE COUNCIL DISTRICTS WITH THE I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT TERRY ROAD AS FAR AS PROJECT RELATED, BUT GREENWOOD ROAD I CAN ADDRESS. SURE. SO I STARTED IN 2006 AND PRETTY QUICKLY AFTER I STARTED, WE HAD A PUBLIC MEETING AT THE SCHOOL THERE.

NOT THE HIGH SCHOOL, BUT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL OR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, AND IT WAS GOING TO THE PUBLIC AND GETTING INPUT ON WHETHER WE WERE GOING TO DO A THREE LANE OR A FIVE LANE ROADWAY THERE. SO WE HAD PRELIMINARY PLANS FOR BOTH OF THOSE. THE OVERWHELMING RECEPTION FROM THE PUBLIC. AND CHARLIE MILLER, THE STATE REP AT THE TIME, WAS AT FIVE LANE ROAD IS TOO IMPACTFUL. LET'S GO TO A THREE. SO WE KIND OF STEPPED BACK. DID PLANS, COMPLETED THOSE, SPENT MANY, MANY YEARS BUYING ALL THE RIGHT OF WAY PARCELS. I THINK THERE WAS WELL OVER 100, MAYBE 150. OY COMPANIES OUT THERE TO DO THE RELOCATIONS. AND IT'S VERY SIMILAR. IF ANYBODY IS FAMILIAR WITH BLUE LAKE ROAD THAT WE JUST FINISHED A FEW YEARS AGO, REALLY VERY SIMILAR ROAD DITCHES ON BOTH SIDES, UTILITIES ON BOTH SIDES, UNDERGROUND SEWER IN THE MIDDLE. AND ALL OF IT'S GOT TO BE RELOCATED EVEN FOR THE THREE LANE SECTION. SO THE LAST COMMUNICATION WE HAD SOMETIME WITHIN THE LAST 6 TO 12 MONTHS

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OF COURSE, LG AND AT&T AND THE COMMUNICATION COMPANIES, THEY DON'T JUST WORK HERE IN JEFFERSON COUNTY. WE HAVE PROJECTS IN OLDHAM COUNTY AND BULLOCK COUNTY AS WELL. SO WE HAVE THEM RUNNING AROUND LIKE CRAZY. BUT MOST RECENTLY WE KIND OF PROJECTED OUT. THAT'S PROBABLY MORE LIKE LATE 27 THAT WE PUT THAT ONE OUT TO BID. SO LET'S, YOU KNOW, A SOLID THREE YEARS FROM WHAT WE WERE PREVIOUSLY COMMUNICATING ON THAT. AND IN YOUR TERMS, WHEN YOU HEAR WHEN WHEN YOU HEAR PUT OUT THE BID, HOW TIMELINE WISE TYPICALLY AFTER THE BID. WELL, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR SOMEONE WHO IS NEW TO COUNCIL. YEP. THE 3RD JANUARY OF EVERY MONTH WE HAVE A WHAT WE CALL A LETTING, WHICH IS BASICALLY LETTING IT OUT TO BID. BUT IT'S BASICALLY THAT DAY IS THE BID OPENING. WE'VE ALREADY ADVERTISED IT FOR THREE WEEKS.

SO ON THAT THURSDAY MORNING IN FRANKFORT, THEY OPEN UP THOSE BIDS IN ABOUT A WEEK TO TEN DAYS LATER, THERE'S A AWARDS COMMITTEE. THAT'S OUR USUALLY OUR LEADERSHIP IN FRANKFORT IN TRANSPORTATION CABINET. LOOK AT THOSE AND THEY AGREE TO AWARD OR TO REJECT. AND THEN PROBABLY A COUPLE WEEKS AFTER THAT. SO APPROXIMATELY THREE WEEKS AFTER THE OPENING, SOMETIMES MAYBE AS MUCH AS SIX WEEKS AFTER, THERE IS A NOTICE TO PROCEED TO THE CONTRACTOR. SO MORE LIKE A MONTH TO MONTH AND A HALF AFTER THE BID OPENING, THE CONTRACTOR WILL HAVE AN OFFICIAL NOTICE PROCEED ON THEIR CONTRACT. AND AGAIN, THAT CONTRACT SAYS YOU HAVE TO BE DONE ON THIS DATE.

IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT YOU HAVE TO START NEXT WEEK BECAUSE THAT'S A FLOATING DAY BASED ON ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS. DO WE HAVE A THE FIRST TIME WE PUT IT OUT TO BID? DO WE HAVE A GOOD BID THAT WE CAN AWARD, OR DO WE HAVE TO PUT IT OUT AGAIN OR TWO MONTHS LATER OR SIX? THE INTERCHANGE IN BULLITT COUNTY, WHERE WE DID IT FOR 80. WE PUT IT OUT TO BID FIVE TIMES. SO THE BEGINNING DATE IS VERY DIFFICULT. THE END DATE, ALL WE DO IS SHOVE IT ANOTHER MONTH OR TWO EVERY TIME WE PUT IT OUT TO BID AGAIN. SO THE END DATE IS THE EASY PART TO BEGIN. DATES THE HARD PART. AND I REALIZE THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY'S INTERESTED. WE'RE INTERESTED IN BOTH, OBVIOUSLY, BUT THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A A MOVING TARGET ON THE FRONT END BECAUSE THEY CAN SAY, WELL, WE'RE ON THIS PROJECT OVER HERE. WE'RE GOING TO FINISH THAT UP IN TWO MONTHS.

AND THAT'S WHEN WE'RE GOING TO COME OVER HERE, WE THINK. BUT THEN IT RAINS FOR A MONTH OFF AND ON AND THEY CAN'T. SO THAT'S WHY THE START IS IS A VARIABLE THAT WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER. WE HAVE CONTROL OVER THE END BECAUSE WE PENALIZE THEM IF THEY'RE NOT DONE BY THAT END DATE. SO THE ORIGINAL QUESTION, 4 TO 6 WEEKS FROM OPENING ON A GOOD BID TO AWARD CONTRACT. AND REAL QUICK, WHILE I HAVE YOU WITH TERRY BECAUSE IT HITS THREE COUNCIL DISTRICTS, WE'RE SEEING IT'S IT'S REALLY UP LIKE BECAUSE IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THE METRO MAINTAINS IT, BUT IT'S A STATE ROAD FROM WHAT I'VE GATHERED THAT. AND SO IT'S LIKE DOING THIS BULGE LIKE WHERE IT'S KIND OF LIKE DOING LIKE IT'S LIKE BEHAVING UP OR WHATNOT. AND SO WHEN WE GOT METRO TO HELP WITH TERRY, IT WAS WHERE THESE PIECES ARE GOING. THEY JUST PUT, I DON'T KNOW, LIKE LIKE A PAVEMENT OVER IT AND IF YOU WILL. BUT NOW IT'S JUST A PAVEMENT WITH A BUMP AND IT'S STILL THE ISSUE. AND SO WE LOOKED AT TRYING TO GET TERRY REPAVED. AND I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT WITH THAT BEING A STATE ROAD IS THAT IS IS THAT THE FIRST THING IS THAT WITH YOU? YEAH. GOOD QUESTION. SO RESURFACING ON ANY OF THESE ROADS IN JEFFERSON COUNTY IS STILL MANAGED BY US THROUGH OUR RESURFACING PROGRAM. PUBLIC WORKS COULD DO SOME SMALL PATCHING. THEY DON'T JUST DO POTHOLES. THAT'S THE MAJORITY OF THE WORK ON THE ROADWAYS. THEY CAN DO SOME SMALLER, YOU KNOW, SQUARE PATCHING IN SOME AREAS. BUT THAT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE CASE. I KNOW THAT ON TAYLORSVILLE ROAD WE HAD A VERY SIMILAR SITUATION BECAUSE IT WAS CONCRETE UNDERNEATH WITH ASPHALT ON TOP. AND I BELIEVE TERRY MAY BE THE SAME THING BECAUSE EVERY ONE OF THOSE CONCRETE JOINTS IS THEY'RE EXPANDING AND CONTRACTION. IT PUSHES UP THE ASPHALT. THEY CAN HANDLE THOSE. THEY COME WITH A GRINDER ON A SKID, STEER WHATEVER, AND GRIND THOSE DOWN AND THEN PUT SOME ASPHALT. BUT GENERALLY THEY KEEP COMING BACK UNTIL IT'S RESURFACING. SO IT'S GOT TO BE PART OF OUR RESURFACING PROGRAM. AND I BELIEVE TERRY ROAD IS IN THAT RURAL SECONDARY PROGRAM, WHICH IS JUST A DIFFERENT POT OF FUNDS. BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY CHECK ON THAT IF IT'S STILL AN ISSUE. I WANT TO I WANT TO GIVE COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL, I MEAN, COUNCILWOMAN RAYMOND A AN OPPORTUNITY. SHE'S BEEN HERE THE WHOLE TIME. AND YES, I DID JUST SAY YOUR NAME WRONG AGAIN BECAUSE I CAN'T HELP MYSELF. INCREDIBLE, INCREDIBLE. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU. MATT, I WANTED TO ASK YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GOT OUR QUESTION EITHER, SO WE MIGHT WANT TO CHECK ON THIS COMMUNICATION BREAKDOWN. BUT WE KNOW THAT POPLAR LEVEL ROAD, WHERE PEOPLE ARE POPPING TIRES ALL THE TIME, IS ON THE PAVING CYCLE. BUT WE'RE LOOKING FOR A DATE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE STARTED AND THEN COMPLETED. DO YOU KNOW MATT? NO I DON'T IT'S AND I GUESS YOU ALREADY KNOW THE LIMITS OF THAT WHERE THAT IS.

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SO WHEN WE LOOK AT A SUPERMAJORITY IN FRANKFORT, REGARDLESS OF THE PARTY, IF IT'S POWER BASES OUTSIDE OF OUR METRO AREAS, THEN THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET THE ATTENTION THAT THEY DESERVE. SO WE CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT AS COLLEAGUES. AND LASTLY, I WANT TO SAY WE'VE GOT THIS NEW LOUISVILLE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. AND AS WE MEET WITH THEM AND RAISE CONCERNS LIKE A CRUMBLING ROADWAY BRIDGE ON A STATE ROAD, LIKE HOW DO WE SHARE CONCERNS WITH THEM? AND THEN THEY SHARE CONCERNS WITH WITH YOU? AND HOW DO WE THINK ABOUT INTERACTING WITH BOTH ENTITIES? WELL, THAT'S REALLY YOUR DISCRETION, HOW YOU WANT TO DO THAT. WE TAKE THAT AT ANY TIME. WE CERTAINLY, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, AND YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE LIST PREVIOUSLY AS A STATE ELECTED OFFICIAL WHEN WE SENT OUT OUR BIG, BIG LIST AND SAID, HEY, WHAT DO YOU LIKE ON HERE? DON'T LIKE, LET US KNOW YOUR PRIORITIES. WE ARE NOT DOING IT THAT LEVEL WITH THE COUNCIL PEOPLE, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE NOT TAKING IT. WE'RE JUST NOT DOING IT IN THE FORMAL PROCESS. WE'LL TAKE THAT AT ANY TIME. AND HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO THAT, WHETHER THAT'S A PHONE CALL, EMAIL, TEXT OR ANYTHING. SO AT ANY POINT IN TIME, THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE IF IT'S A BRIDGE AND THERE'S A PROBLEM LIKE THAT FOR EITHER REPLACEMENT OR REPAIR, THEN WE ALREADY HAVE IT BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DO DATA COLLECTION ON THOSE TYPES OF ASSETS AND ALREADY IN THE SYSTEM. BUT YOU'RE MEETING REGULARLY WITH THE NEW DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION HERE. ABSOLUTELY. SO IF YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH THAT ROUTE AS WELL, BILL, WHO'S ON THE SCREEN, IS A GOOD FRIEND AND FORMER COLLEAGUE AT THE KYTC. AND WE COMMUNICATE ALL THE TIME. SO THAT'S OBVIOUSLY AN OPTION AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. SO I WANT TO GET THIS WRAPPED UP FOR FOR MATT HERE. AND I APPRECIATE HIM BEING HERE. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. PLANS FOR EASTERN PARKWAY. THIS IS FROM COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL. IS THERE ANYTHING ON THE BOARD RIGHT NOW FOR EASTERN PARKWAY? EASTERN PARKWAY. NO, THERE'S A THERE'S A PROJECT LISTED IN THE ROAD PLAN FOR DOING IMPROVEMENTS BECAUSE THERE WAS A, AGAIN, A STUDY FROM YEARS AGO THAT WAS MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR, I BELIEVE, WHAT WE USED TO CALL A ROAD DIET. NOW WE'RE CALLING RIGHT SIZING FOR LANES TO THREE, LOOKING AT BIKE LANES AND CENTER TURN LANE AND SO FORTH.

BUT RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE ANY FUNDS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT ASPECT. AND THE TWO WAY CONVERSION ON LOGAN AND SHELBY. YEAH. ONGOING UTILITY CONFLICTS IS THE ISSUE, NOT UTILITY RELOCATIONS. DIDN'T HAVE GOOD DATA WHEN THE PLANS WERE PUT OUT THERE FOR BID. IT'S UNDER CONTRACT. THEY HAVE BEEN DOING SOME WORK FOR THE SIGNALS, BUT IT IS ONGOING AND PROBABLY WILL BE WELL INTO NEXT YEAR BEFORE THAT IS COMPLETE. AND THEN HILL STREET OPENING BACK UP. I THINK THERE'S SOME CONSTRUCTION THAT'S HAPPENING ON 65 THAT MAYBE HEAL STREETS CLOSED AS A RESULT OF THAT. IS THAT NEAR THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND PRESTON AND BURNETTS AND THAT AREA? YEAH. SO THAT'S WITH THE CENTRAL CORRIDOR PROJECT AND THAT BRIDGE IS GETTING REPLACED.

AND SO THIS IS PRE WORK. SO THE SCHEDULE ON WHEN THAT MAY OPEN, IT MAY NOT OPEN UNTIL WELL INTO NEXT YEAR BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN THE SHUTDOWN HAPPENS AS NEXT SUMMER. AND THIS IS PRE WORK TO THAT. SO IT MAY ACTUALLY BE CONTINUOUS THROUGH THAT AS WELL. THAT'S HELPFUL. THANK YOU MATT I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU COMING I KNOW I MEAN I KNEW COMING IN THAT IT WAS NOT GOING TO BE THE EASIEST TIME. AND I APPRECIATE YOU SHOWING UP AND ANSWERING QUESTIONS. AS YOU KNOW WE ALL THIS THESE ARE THE KINDS OF QUESTIONS WE GET FROM OUR CONSTITUENTS ALL THE TIME. AND JUST TRYING TO FIND, YOU KNOW, THE BEST ANSWERS THAT WE CAN TO PROVIDE TO PEOPLE IS IS EXTREMELY HELPFUL FOR US. SO WE WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO DO THIS AT OUR NEXT MEETING. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE BILL BELL COME IN WITH MIKE KING. AND SO INSTEAD OF SENDING QUESTIONS, THE COLLEAGUES, IF YOU INSTEAD OF SENDING THEM TO MY OFFICE AND I'M SORRY WE DIDN'T GET EVERYTHING SENT THROUGH TO TO MATT FOR THIS ONE, INSTEAD OF SENDING QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ABOUT SOME OF THE LARGER INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING HANDLED BY METRO GOVERNMENT FOR BILL AND FOR MIKE, IF YOU CAN SEND YOUR QUESTIONS TO THEM DIRECTLY, MAYBE, AND THEN THEY CAN COME PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT THOSE THINGS AT OUR NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING, WHICH WILL BE IN TWO WEEKS. LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. MATT, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR COMING. APPRECIATE IT. ANY ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING THAT THEY NEED TO SAY BEFORE WE

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