Sep 16, 2025 Public Works Committee

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GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED. THIS IS THE REGULARLY CALLED MEETING OF THE PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE

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[3. R-110-25     A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO ACCEPT $800,000 FROM THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION FOR THE SAFE STREETS AND ROADS FOR ALL (“SS4A”) GRANT TO BE ADMINISTERED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS AND ASSETS. Action Required By March 11, 2026 Sponsors: Jeff Hudson (R-23) ]

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OKAY. YEAH. DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO SAY ABOUT IT? YEAH. SO THIS IS A FEDERAL FEDERAL GRANT THAT WE ARE DOING AN 80 OVER 20 MATCH ON. THE GRANT IS FOR TWO FULL TIME STAFF EMPLOYEES FOR UP TO TWO YEARS. WE THINK IT'S A REALLY GOOD DEAL. ONE STAFF MEMBER WILL BE HOUSED WITHIN PUBLIC WORKS, DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. THEY WILL BE A TRANSPORTATION PLANNER, AND THEY WILL MANAGE OUR SAFER SPEEDS STRATEGY OF THE SAFE SYSTEM APPROACH, THAT KIND OF THAT WHEEL THAT I LIKE TO TALK ABOUT. AND THEN THE OTHER EMPLOYEE WILL ACTUALLY BE IN PUBLIC HEALTH. SO THIS IS KIND OF A CROSS-DISCIPLINARY APPROACH, AND THEY WILL BE AN EPIDEMIOLOGIST. AND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO IS JUST REALLY EXCITING, I THINK, IS CREATE WHAT'S KNOWN AS A DATA LINKAGE PROGRAM. SO BASICALLY LINKING COLLISION REPORTING, COLLISION REPORTS WITH EMS RUN SHEET DATA, AS WELL AS TRAUMA REGISTRY DATA FROM UNIVERSITY, MAYBE EVEN GET PEDS IN THERE TOO. WITH NORTON CHILDREN'S.

THEY'RE A REALLY GOOD PARTNER AS WELL. AND SO WE CAN START TO SEE LIKE THE FULL LIFE CYCLE OF A CRASH. SO NOT JUST LOOKING AT THE COLLISION REPORT, BUT ALSO HOW QUICKLY DID EMS ARRIVE? DID THEY REQUIRE A WHOLE BLOOD TRANSFUSION, WHICH EMS THANKFULLY OFFERS NOW?

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WE TALKED ABOUT IT, AND ULTIMATELY WE DECIDED THAT IT WOULD STILL BE VALUABLE TO DO THAT. REMEMBER THAT THIS IS A REIMBURSEMENT GRANT. SO REALISTICALLY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET CLOSE TO THE 800,000 ON THE FEDERAL OR THE 200,000 METRO. BUT THOSE ARE KIND OF THINK OF THEM MORE AS OUR CAPS, A LITTLE BIT OF A BRIGHT SPOT, THOUGH, IS WE DO GET TO CHARGE FOR FRINGE BENEFITS, WHICH FOR NON-HAZARDOUS IS ABOUT 49%. SO SO WE DO GET TO METRO DOES GET TO RECOUP THAT COST AS WELL. SURE. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE SALARIES OF THESE JOBS ARE GOING TO BE LIKE? YOU SAID IT WAS REIMBURSEMENT. BUT WHY TO IF WE'RE GETTING $1 MILLION WHY NOT FOR. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE GRANT AGREEMENT WAS ORIGINALLY FOR. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO STICK WITH. I DON'T THINK THAT I DON'T THINK THAT WE COULD MOVE THE GOALPOSTS ON THEM NOW. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. OKAY, I THOUGHT I UNDERSTOOD YOU, AND NOW I'M CONFUSED. SO THE 800,000, THE GRANT THAT WAS THE BASIS FOR THE 800,000 WAS BASED ON FIVE.

YOU'VE DECIDED YOU COULD DO IT WITH TWO. KEPT THE MONEY AT A TOTAL OF A MILLION. YEAH, BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SPEND IT ALL. FAIR QUESTION. HOW MUCH ARE WE GOING TO SPEND, MIKE? SO DO WE HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT? THEN I HAVE A SECOND QUESTION. SURE. SO SO INSTEAD OF FIVE YEARS FOR EACH STAFF PERSON, THAT WOULD BE TWO YEARS FOR EACH STAFF PERSON. SO, SO TWO EMPLOYEES FOR A TOTAL OF TWO YEARS. REALISTICALLY, WE'RE THINKING AROUND 600,000, INCLUDING THAT FRINGE BENEFIT RATE OF AROUND 49%. SO 150,000 PER PERSON. YEAH, YEAH. AND WE DON'T HAVE AN EXACT FIGURE ON THE ON THE SALARIES THAT WE'LL PAY. OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO BE COMPETITIVE, PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO ATTRACT SOMEONE AND THEY KNOW THAT THE CLOCK IS TICKING ON THEIR POSITION AS WELL. WELL, THAT WAS MY SECOND QUESTION. THEY DO KNOW THAT AT THE END OF THE TWO YEARS, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE EXTENDED. YES THAT'S CORRECT.

YEAH. YEAH. IT'LL BE WRITTEN INTO THEIR. INTO THEIR CONTRACT. OKAY. SO HR TELLS ME OKAY I'M NOT AS WELL VERSED. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS. ALL RIGHT. THIS CALLS FOR A VOICE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE I ALL THOSE OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES WILL GO ON TO THE

[2. O-196-25     AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 156 OF THE LOUISVILLE/JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT CODE OF ORDINANCES ("LMCO") RELATING TO THE MAINTENANCE OF SIDEWALKS. 9/2/25 Public Works Committee Held 8/19/25 Public Works Committee  Held Action Required By: February 14, 2026 Sponsors: Jeff Hudson (R-23) ]

GOOD AFTERNOON. JENNIFER KOMISAR, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, HERE TO SPEAK ON THE SIDEWALK ORDINANCE. I'M ALSO SUPPORTED WITH STAFF FROM THE JEFFERSON COUNTY ATTORNEY

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THERE'S ALSO ACCESS FOR A PRIVATE DUMPSTER. SO YOU WOULD HAVE HEAVY VEHICLES ACCESSING THAT DRIVEWAY. SO THAT DRIVEWAY APRON IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE OWNER. THIS WOULD NOT CHANGE. THAT CHANGING APRON WAS A WORD I COULDN'T, I COULDN'T REMEMBER. SO THIS IS A THIS WOULD HAVE TO BE A STATE LAW. IS THAT CLARIFIED WE I KNOW. I, I BELIEVE IT WAS CHRIS BUT I CAN GET YOU THE EXACT ITEM. I WANTED TO MENTION THAT HERE BECAUSE I DIDN'T THINK THIS WOULD COVER IT. I DIDN'T WANT TO MENTION IT FOR FUTURE REFERENCE THAT THIS IS NOT UNIQUE TO THE CBD OR IT'S MORE IT'S MORE COMMON IN IN THESE THESE AREAS WITH BIG PARKING LOTS. AND THEY ARE YOU KNOW, AS WE DISCUSSED, THEY ARE UNIFORMLY IN BAD SHAPE FOR THIS REASON. AND THEY'RE TRIP HAZARDS. THEY ARE TECHNICALLY SIDEWALKS, BUT ALSO THE APRONS.

AND THERE'S A CONTINUOUS, CONSISTENT TRIP HAZARD ON THESE PARTICULAR STRIPS OF CONCRETE.

SO THANK YOU VICE CHAIR PERISH RIGHT. THANK YOU I APPRECIATE THAT CLARITY. COUNCILMAN HARDEN

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THERE ARE DRIVEWAY APRONS THAT HAVE TO BE REPLACED IN THE CONTEXT OF THAT OVERALL PROJECT, SO THAT ALL OF THAT LINES UP. SO IN SITUATIONS LIKE THAT FOR PUBLIC WORKS AND EVEN ON KYTC PROJECTS, DRIVEWAY APRONS WOULD BE REPLACED IN KIND, BUT THAT WOULD BE A MUCH DIFFERENT SITUATION. OKAY. AND I DON'T HAVE ALL THE DETAILS, BUT FROM WHAT I'VE READ BEFORE, IT WAS AT POPLAR LEVEL, IT WAS AT A BUSINESS AND IT HAD BEEN DAMAGED FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

PEOPLE COMPLAINED ABOUT IT FOR A VERY LONG TIME, AND IT WAS REALLY THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE OWNER. BUT I SAW A NOTE FROM YOU ALL THAT FOR THIS SPECIAL SITUATION, YOU DID REPAIR IT AND THERE WAS AN ARTICLE ABOUT IT, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER ALL THE DETAILS IF I FIND IT, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE KINDS OF THOSE KIND OF THINGS, THERE'S A CAVEAT THAT PEOPLE CAN OR AVENUE THAT PEOPLE CAN GO TO FIGURE THAT OUT. AND WE CAN ALWAYS WE'RE HAPPY TO LOOK AT IF THERE ARE EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES OR OTHER THINGS THAT COME INTO PLAY. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE DRIVEWAY APRONS THAT OCCUR NEAR MAYBE DRAINAGE THAT WE'RE IMPROVING OR, OR OTHER ISSUES THAT WE MIGHT BE REPAIRING WHERE THAT MIGHT HAVE TO BE REPLACED AT THE SAME TIME. OKAY. UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU. CHAIR. WILL NOTE THAT WE'VE BEEN JOINED ONLINE BY COUNCILWOMAN DONNA PURVIS. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? COUNCILWOMAN CHAMPION? I DON'T SIGNED IN WITH YOU. SORRY. IT'S OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO GET MY RETAINING WALL REPLACED EARLIER THIS YEAR, AND ALL OF MY QUOTES CAME BACK PRETTY SIMILARLY. BUT THERE WAS ONE GUY WHO JUST ASTRONOMICAL THREE TIMES MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE, AND HE SAID THAT I HAD TO FIX THE SIDEWALKS, AND I WAS LIKE, I DON'T THINK SO, BUDDY. DO YOU KIND OF LIKE, KNOW ABOUT THIS STUFF? BUT DON'T TAKE MY WORD FOR IT. ANYWAYS, I APPRECIATE COUNCILMAN HERNDON KIND OF EXPLAINING THE DIFFERENCE AND OR I GUESS THE PREVALENCE, ESPECIALLY ABOUT THESE SIDEWALKS, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S SOMETHING THAT I REALLY COME ACROSS IN MY DISTRICT. DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA OR A MAP OF HOW MANY, I GUESS LINEAR FEET OR I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WOULD MEASURE SIDEWALK IN OF THESE PRIVATE VERSUS PUBLIC SIDEWALKS. SO IT WOULD DEPEND UPON THE CLASSIFICATION OF PRIVATE SIDEWALK THAT YOU WOULD BE LOOKING FOR. SO DO YOU MEAN THE SO THAT LIKE A DRIVEWAY APRON VERSUS THE SIDEWALK, OR DO YOU MEAN JUST PRIVATE SIDEWALKS? BECAUSE THERE COULD BE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE SIDEWALKS THAT GO FROM THEIR DRIVEWAY TO THEIR FRONT DOOR. THERE ARE SIDEWALKS THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR, SAY, ADA, ACCESS TO BUSINESSES THAT ARE INTERNAL, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE WOULD BE A QUICK WAY TO DO IT, BUT WE'D WANT TO DIAL IN EXACTLY WHAT THE DEFINITION OF THAT IS. AND SO LIKE WHEN I GO TO I THINK LOWE'S, THEY HAVE THAT ONE SIDEWALK THAT GOES LIKE FROM THE STREET ALL THE WAY TO THE BUILDING, AND IT'S RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE. IS THAT CONSIDERED A PRIVATE SIDEWALK? THAT IS A PRIVATE SIDEWALK BECAUSE IT IS ON THEIR PROPERTY, THOSE CONNECTIONS FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY TO A BUILDING ENTRANCE ARE ALSO A LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENT. AND I'M JUST CURIOUS, WHAT IS THE PENALTY FOR SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT KEEP IT CLEAR? DO THEY GET CITED BY CODE ENFORCEMENT? IT WOULD DEPEND UPON THE NATURE OF IT. I MEAN, WE WE ALWAYS WE ALWAYS WOULD WANT SOMEONE TO JUST CORRECT THE SITUATION. WE DON'T WANT TO GO OUT AND JUST CITE SOMEONE IF WE DON'T ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO. BUT

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ANYTHING ELSE? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THIS IS AN ORDINANCE REQUIRING A VOICE VOTE. NO. NO ROLL CALL VOTE. OPEN THE VOTING OPEN. YES I DON'T HAVE I'M NOT SIGNING.

COMMITTEE MEMBER PURVIS. YES. DID YOU GET ME? NO. NO. YES, YES. THANK YOU. WE CAN'T MAKE UP. OH, YOU CAN'T TAKE A PHONE. CHAIR. HUDSON, YOU HAVE SEVEN YES VOTES. GO TO CONSENT. LAST

[1. ID 25-0515     SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT UPDATE – Jennifer Caummisar-Kern, Public Works ]

THANK YOU. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, SIR. SHANNON LOGAN IS THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT SERVICES. THIS PRESENTATION WILL GIVE SOME UPDATES OF SOME THINGS WE GOT GOING ON AS AS SWIMS. SO CURRENTLY THIS IS OUR NEW ORG CHART. ESSENTIALLY WE HAVE THREE SUBDIVISIONS THAT SWIMS. ONE WOULD BE THE CLEAN DIVISION WHERE WE HAVE OUR ENFORCEMENT EDUCATION AND COMPLIANCE ON STAFF, RECYCLING CENTERS AND HOUSEHOLD HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE FACILITIES. THE OTHER SUBDIVISION WOULD BE SPECIAL CONTRACTS. THIS WILL BE LARGE ITEM BY APPOINTMENT. STREET SWEEPING ALLEY ACTION. IT WILL ALSO BE A WASTE REDUCTION CENTER, CBD AS WELL AS SPECIAL EVENTS LIKE MARATHONS AND FESTIVAL CLEANUP. AND OUR LAST SUBDIVISION WILL BE YOUR MUNICIPAL SOLID WASTE COLLECTION, WHERE YOU GET YOUR CURBSIDE, YOUR WASTE GARBAGE AND RECYCLING. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT A FEW THINGS. THIS NEWEST WILLIAMS. WE HAVE ESTABLISHED AN ALL IN ON CLEAN TASK FORCE. THE GOAL OF THIS TASK FORCE IS TO CREATE YEAR ROUND ENERGY AND ENTHUSIASM AROUND THE FOCUS AROUND THE CLEAN CITY. THIS IS A MAYOR'S TASK FORCE AND IT WILL BE HOUSED IN SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT SERVICES. THE GOAL IS TO INCREASE OPERATIONAL CAPACITY CONSISTENCY THROUGH COLLABORATION WITH SISTER AGENCIES AND IMPROVE EDUCATION TO TO DRIVE A CLEANER CITY. ALSO, WE STARTED SECURE LOADS.

I BELIEVE IT WAS JANUARY CHANGE THE ORDINANCE TO HELP US WITH LITTER, WHICH ALL GOES TO ALL IN ON CLEAN, RIGHT? SOME OF THESE LOADS THAT ARE BEING HAULED ARE NOT COVERED. TO DATE WE HAVE 28 CITATIONS FOR UNSECURED LOADS. WE HAVE ALSO IMPOUNDED 31 VEHICLES FOR ILLEGAL DUMPING. THIS IS ILLEGAL DUMPING ACTUALLY AT AN UNSTAFFED RECYCLING CENTER.

THIS IS THE VEHICLE. THIS IS WHAT THEY DUMPED AND THIS IS WHEN WE IMPOUNDED IT. SO I BELIEVE THIS WAS AT HIKES LANE STAFF RECYCLING CENTER. WE ALSO HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH KENTUCKY TRANSPORTATION CABINET TO IMPROVE. WHAT'S THE CLEANLINESS OF HIGHWAYS. WE

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CURRENTLY, WE ARE WORKING ON CAMERAS AT UNSTAFFED RECYCLING CENTERS AGAIN TO DETER ILLEGAL DUMPING. THIS IS FROM EARLIER TODAY AT WILLOW SMITH. THIS WOULD BE THE INTEREST. THIS IS WHERE YOU WOULD DUMP. ACTUALLY YESTERDAY WE DID SOME SITE VISITS WITH A VENDOR TO OTHER UNSTAFFED RECYCLING CENTERS. SO WE'RE GOING TO INSTALL CAMERAS AT THE ONES THAT ARE HISTORICALLY HIGH IN ILLEGAL DUMPING AND THEN EXPAND AFTER THAT. CLEAN COLLABORATIVE UPDATE. DOING PRETTY GOOD THIS YEAR. WE'VE CLEANED 3400 CARS, MILES AND 9000 BAGS, SO IT'S STILL A FANTASTIC PROGRAM. ONE OF OUR MOST POPULAR PROGRAMS IS POP UP DROP OFF. THE NEXT DROP OFF IS SEPTEMBER THE 27TH. TO DATE, WE HAVE SERVICED 1984 RESIDENTS, RECOVERED OUR RECYCLE SIX, 167,000 POUNDS OF MATERIAL, AND OUR DIVERSION RATE IS 49.2%, WHICH IS PRETTY GOOD. WE ALSO ARE LOOKING INTO ADDING WHAT WE WOULD CALL RESCUERS AT THESE COLLECTION POINTS, WHICH WOULD ALLOW, SAY, ELECTRONIC SHOP THAT REPAIRS TVS. HE CAN RESCUE THE TVS BEFORE THEY GO TO THE DUMP. SO WE WORK WE WORKING ON THAT TO EDUCATION WISE. WE HAVE A NEW TEAM MEMBER. SHE'S A. E E ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION LEADERSHIP CORPS MEMBER SHE WOULD BE HOUSED IN FOR ONE YEAR. SHE WOULD WORK WITH THE EDUCATION TEAM TO INCREASE VISIBILITY AT COMMUNITY GROUPS, DO DOOR TO DOOR CONVERSATIONS WITH EDUCATION FOR EDUCATIONAL RESIDENTS, AND TABLE EVENTS. ALSO COMING UP FOR EDUCATION. WE HAVE CLOTHING SWAP AND REPAIR FAIR. ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS GOING RIGHT NOW AT SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT SERVICES, THE TECHNOLOGY WE HAVE BEEN USING, WE SPEND YEARS SO FAR BEHIND AND NOT DOING THE TECHNOLOGY, BUT WE HAVE INSTALLED SOME THINGS AND AND IT IS WORKING. SO PREVIOUSLY WE DISCUSSED ROUTE WEAR WHICH ALLOWS FOR SERVICE VALIDATION, TURN BY TURN NAVIGATION FOR NEW DRIVERS.

IT WILL ALLOW US TO NOTATE BROKEN CARDS LOCATIONS WHERE THE HOUSE WHERE THE SERVICE WAS NOT OUT, AND AND ALSO ALLOW US TO BE BE ABLE TO SAVE TIME WITHOUT HAVING TO GO BACK TO LOCATIONS WHERE THERE WAS NOTHING OUT. THE NEXT STEP IN, WELL, THE NEWEST STEP IN ROUTE WHERE WE HAVE ADDED STREET SWEEPING. SO THE STREET SWEEPING PORTAL WILL ALLOW US TO TAKE PICTURES OF SIGNAGE, WHICH WE HAVE A LOT OF FEEDBACK ABOUT NOT SEEING SIGNAGE ON SWEEPING DAY. SO THIS WILL ALLOW US TO TAKE PICTURES WHEN IT'S SIGNED, PUT IT IN THE PORTAL AS WELL AS IT WILL SHOW YOU THE PASSES ON THE STREET. GREEN IS WHEN IT'S COMPLETE.

BLUE MEANS IT'S ONE PASS. I KNOW IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE SO THAT THAT WAS THE NEXT THING WE ADDED IN ROUTE WEAR AND WE PLAN TO CONTINUE TO ADD SUBDIVISIONS INTO ROUTE WORK.

WE JUST RECENTLY HAD A KPI WITH ROUTE WHERE AND WE'RE LOOKING PRETTY GOOD. OUR COMPLETION RATE FOR CURBSIDE RESIDENTIAL WAS LIKE 58%. SOME OF IT WE CAN FIX BY GETTING THE SYSTEM TO ACKNOWLEDGE ALLEYS. WE HAVE A LOT OF ALLEYS IN LOUISVILLE, SO WE MOST OF OUR SERVICES, MAYBE 85% ALLEYS. IT'S HARD FOR THE SOFTWARE PROGRAM TO RECOGNIZE THAT THE VEHICLE IS IN THE ALLEY. SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT PART, WHICH WOULD DRIVE UP OUR COMPLETION RATE. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE SITTING PROBABLY A LITTLE ABOUT AVERAGE WITH SISTER CITIES, OUR SIZE ON THE COMPLETION RATE THAT USE ROUTE WERE THE NEXT PHASE WILL BEGIN ON THE 19TH. WE WILL BE INSTALLING CAMERAS IN IN OUR VEHICLES TO ASSIST WITH SERVICE VALIDATION, AS WELL AS INCIDENT REPORTING, SO THAT WE START THAT ON THE 19TH. 30 VEHICLES WILL RECEIVE CAMERAS, ONE INSIDE THE CAB, ONE ON EACH SIDE OF THE VEHICLE, AND THE NEXT SERVICE TO BE ADDED TO

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SO THIS IS TO HELP DRIVE DOWN THE COMPLACENCY OF OUR DRIVERS, IMPROVE THEIR SKILL SET. AND THIS IS THE VIEW FROM THE FRONT FACING CAMERA. AND THIS IS THE IN-CAB VIEW. THE CAMERA ALLOWS YOU TO SEE AND VIEW THEM INSIDE AS WELL AS YOU CAN IT. YOU CAN NOTIFY THEM, YOU CAN TALK TO THEM WHEN THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, OPERATING SAFELY. IT ALSO IT'LL NOTIFY YOU OF SPEEDING, DISTRACTED DRIVING, SEAT BELTS, PICKING UP YOUR PHONE, DROWSINESS, THINGS THAT AFTER YEARS AND YEARS OF DRIVING, PEOPLE COME COMPLACENT WITH IT. AND THE GOAL IS TO HELP PEOPLE SELF CORRECT AND DRIVE THIS DOWN. AND WE'VE BEEN DOING PRETTY GOOD. SO HERE YOU SEE WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR NOTIFICATIONS. SO HE HAS HIS PHONE IN HIS HAND. SO WE WOULD GET AN ALERT IN THE SAFETY INBOX. IT WOULD BE REVIEWED BY HIS FRONT LINE SUPERVISOR. AND IT WOULD EITHER BE A COACHING DISMISSED IF IT WAS RECOGNIZED INCORRECTLY, OR RECOGNIZED IF SOMEBODY DID SOMETHING CORRECTLY. SO IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT PUNISHMENT, IT'S MORE TO IMPROVE SKILL SETS AND MAKE PEOPLE REALIZE WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING INSTEAD OF JUST BEING SO COMFORTABLE. SO THIS IS OUR RESULTS FOR DISTRACTED DRIVING. AS YOU CAN SEE, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED MOBILE CELL PHONE USAGE WAS ALMOST THROUGH THE ROOF. AND OVER THESE LAST THREE MONTHS, YOU CAN SEE IT GO DOWN AND SLIGHTLY GO BACK UP. BUT I THINK TRENDING IN A GOOD PATH, KEEPING IT LOW, WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE SOME SPIKES A LITTLE BIT, BUT I THINK IT'S BEEN WORTH A WHILE. THIS WILL BE THE NEXT STEP OF SAMSARA, A TRIAL PROGRAM FOR 360 CAMERA IN OUR AUTOMATED SILOS AND OUR FRONT LOAD TRUCKS. NOW THESE VEHICLES HAVE MORE BLIND SPOTS AND THEY DON'T HAVE HELPERS WITH THEM, SO THEY HAVE MORE POTENTIAL TO HAVE ACCIDENTS. BUT THIS CAMERA WILL GIVE YOU A VIEW FROM EVERY ANGLE OF THE TRUCK. WE DON'T HAVE THE SET DATE TO START YET, BUT WE'RE WORKING ON THAT AND WE HOPE THAT THAT HAVE THE SAME EFFECT AS EVERYTHING ELSE JUST HELPED DRIVE DOWN ACCIDENTS AND INCIDENTS, MAKE OUR OPERATORS MORE SAFE AND BE SAFE IN THE COMMUNITY. AND THAT'S THAT'S ALL I HAD. AND I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. WELL, NOT SO MUCH A QUESTION, JUST A RECOGNITION THAT THE POP UP DROP OFFS, IT'S NOT OFTEN WE GET UNSOLICITED POSITIVE COMMENTS FROM OUR CONSTITUENTS ABOUT THINGS. BUT SPEAKING FROM MY OFFICE, THE MOST FREQUENT UNSOLICITED POSITIVE COMMENT I GET IS THE POP UP DROP OFFS, I WOULD AGREE, POP UP IT IS, IT IS. WE GOTTA FIND A WAY TO SCALE THOSE UP. RIGHT? WE'RE WORKING ON IT. THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. NO PROBLEM. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? QUESTIONS, COUNCILMAN BENSON? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I NOTICED ON THERE YOU RECYCLING. ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH FIRE STATION? I THINK IT'S FOR ON ROUTE ROAD.

THERE'S SEVEN. DUMPSTERS OR CONTAINERS FOR RECYCLING. YES, SIR. I HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE ALL THE TIME WANTING THEM MOVED BECAUSE OF THE BECAUSE OF DEBRIS AND PEOPLE DUMPING. AND YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT CAMERAS. WE WE'VE BEEN ASKING IF IF WE CAN GET A CAMERA. I WENT OUT THERE AND AND WAS JUST WATCHING AND THERE WAS A GUY PULLED UP AND HE HAD SOME CARDBOARD BOXES AND HE WAS BREAKING THEM DOWN. AND I SAID, DO YOU LIVE AROUND HERE? HE SAID, I LIVE IN SPENCER COUNTY. AND I SAID, WELL, I'M GLAD YOU'RE NOT THROWING IT ON THE ROAD, RIGHT? BECAUSE THAT'S A LOT OF TIMES WHERE PEOPLE TAKE PUT LITTER. IF THEY AIN'T GOT A PLACE TO PUT IT, THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IT SOMEPLACE AND IT'S NOT IN THEIR YARD. AND SO BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, YOU KNOW, IF A CAMERA OR IF WE COULD HAVE EIGHT, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU ALL DUMP THEM OR EMPTY THEM. WE UNDERSTAND THREE TIMES A WEEK. YES, SIR. I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE DOING RECYCLING. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL IS IN, IN IN THERE. AND SO IF WE ARE HAVING SOME THINGS THAT REALLY IS NOT SHOULD BE RECYCLED IN, IN THAT THOSE CONTAINERS, IF WE HAVE A CAMERA AND WE COULD START MONITORING, FIND OUT WHERE THESE PEOPLE ARE AND, AND AND WHO'S MAYBE DUMPING THINGS IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO OR IF, IF WE CAN SEE THAT WE COULD USE

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THERE WAS SOME PROBLEMS WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT. I KNOW THAT'S NOT THE CITY, BUT THEY HAVE REALLY CAME AROUND AND THE FERN CREEK AREA AND I NEVER GET COMPLAINTS ABOUT THAT. ALL I GET FROM PUBLIC WORKS IS THE ROAD SITUATION. IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY DAY THERE'S A NEW PROBLEM, AND I JUST HOPE MAYBE ONE SIDE COULD LOOK AT THE OTHER SIDE AND SEE WHAT THEY'RE DOING RIGHT AND IMPROVE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR PARRISH. RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU. THAT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION. AND FROM THE ORG CHART TO HOW YOU BROKE DOWN THE TECHNOLOGY, I PERSONALLY STRUGGLE WITH THE OVERRELIANCE ON SURVEILLANCE.

BUT IN THIS CASE, I UNDERSTAND, TO IMPROVE THE SKILLS. AND I APPRECIATE YOU YOU STATING THAT IT'S NOT JUST FOR PUNITIVE MEASURES. IT'S ALSO TO LET YOUR TEAMS KNOW WHEN THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING RIGHT. MY QUESTIONS ARE MORE AROUND THE AND IT WAS VERY TOP HEAVY WITH MANAGERS AND SUPERVISORS IN YOUR ORG CHART. I WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY EMPLOYEES YOU HAVE TOTAL AND HOW MANY ARE ACTUALLY OUT THERE ON THE STREETS DOING THE WORK VERSUS THE MANAGEMENT SIDE THAT YOU SHOWED US. SO FRONTLINE WORKERS, THE NUMBERS AROUND 295 OKAY. EVERY DAY. SO YEAH, IT'S AROUND IT'S AROUND 295. AND FOR SUPERVISION DO YOU HOW MANY TYPICAL HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD BE UNDER A SPECIFIC SUPERVISOR GENERALLY ON AVERAGE 20 TO 30 OKAY. MAX. YEAH. AND THEN EVEN WITH THE SURVEILLANCE THEY'LL STILL NEED TO BE FOLLOW UPS. YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES TECHNOLOGY FAILS US. ABSOLUTELY. SO I IMAGINE YOU HAVE SOME STUFF IN PLACE FOR THAT. CORRECT? I, I'M JUST REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THE PRESENTATION. I APPRECIATE THAT AND, AND REALLY WANT TO COMMEND YOUR YOU ALL'S COMMITMENT ON IMPROVING THIS DEPARTMENT AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU ALL. I WOULD LIKE IF THERE'S SOMETHING PUBLIC FACING THAT WE CAN SHARE, I KNOW THAT THE PUBLIC CAN'T ACCESS ALL THAT DATA BASES, THAT YOU ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT YOU SHOWED US. BUT IF WE COULD HAVE SOMETHING THAT PUBLIC THAT WE CAN SHARE WITH OUR CONSTITUENTS IN OUR NEWSLETTERS TO SHOW THEM HOW TO KNOW. I SAID THIS BEFORE WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT FOLKSANT TO KNOW WHAT WAS THE SCHEDULE? YOU CAN POST THE SCHEDULE, AND I KNOW YOU ALL DO FOR STREET CLEANING OR SNOW REMOVAL, BUT PEOPLE WILL STILL CALL OUR OFFICES AND ASK US, ARE YOU COMING? SO SOMETHING THAT EVEN IF WE CAN TAP IN AND IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC FACING INFORMATION

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BUT THERE IS A TRASH CAN IN THIS PICTURE. AND WE CLEANED THAT ONE UP AS SOON AS YOU SENT IT TO US. THANK YOU. BUT I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT SHOULD EVER GET TO THIS POINT. IT ABSOLUTELY SHOULDN'T. RIGHT. AND SOME OF IT IS LOCATION PLACEMENT, RIGHT? SOME OF IT.

THAT'S WHY WE DO SITE VISITS OPERATIONALLY TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT IN A PLACE THAT OUR DRIVERS AND OUR OPERATIONS TEAM WON'T NOTICE IT. SURE. AND EVERY TIME WE SUBMIT THE REQUEST, WE ALWAYS MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, ARE THEY IN A CONCRETE PAD? ARE THE DIMENSIONS RIGHT? IS IT ON A TRASH PICKUP ROUTE? WE KNOW THE GUIDELINES. AND SO WHEN WE SUBMIT IT TO YOU, WE'VE ALREADY DONE OUR HOMEWORK, WHICH I KNOW THAT YOU ALL HAVE TO DO YOURS, BUT IT WOULD BE REALLY GREAT TO JUST RECEIVE A RESPONSE. I UNDERSTAND. NEXT, SINCE YOU BROUGHT UP STREET CLEANING, STREET CLEANING, I KNOW THAT PEOPLE APPRECIATE THE NEW ORANGE SIGNS. THOSE ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE VISIBLE. BUT I HAD RECENTLY SENT AND I DON'T KNOW, MR. LOGAN, IF YOU WER COPIED ON THESE EMAILS, BUT THE LAST TWO TIMES THAT MY STREET HAS BEEN SWEPT, YES, THE SIGNS HAVE GONE UP ABOUT 24 HOURS IN ADVANCE. AND I KNOW THAT THAT WAS AN ISSUE BEFORE. BUT THE STREET SWEEPING ALERTS I'VE SIGNED UP FOR TEXTS, I'VE SIGNED UP FOR EMAILS. AND, YOU KNOW, I GOT THE EMAIL A WEEK BEFORE, BUT THEN THE DAY OF BOTH TIMES AS THE STREET SWEERS GNG DOWN MY STREET, I'VE GOTTEN THE TEXT ALERT. AND IN THE LAST TIME I GOT AN EMAIL ALERT. ANDT WASUST ALLY UNFORTATE BECAUSE WHEN I H MEAGOMLK AUT THE EMAIL THAT IAD RECEIVED, AND THIS WAS AT 742 THE MORNING OF STREET SWEEPING, YOUR WEEKLY ALERT WAS SENT LAST THURSDAY, AUGUST 14TH. WE APOLOGIZE, THIS DAILY ALERT WAS NOT SENT YESTERDAY, AUGUST 19TH, 2025. NO PARKING SIGNS WERE POSTED YESTERDAY. VEHICLES MUST BE MOVED FOR THE STREET SWEEPING. THANK YOU. NOWHERE IN THIS DOES IT SAY THAT TODAY AND THE DATE WEDNESDAY. YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WAS WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 20TH OR WHATEVER THAT THAT IS THE DAY THAT EMAIL SAYS TWO DATES, BUT IT NEVER SAYS THE ACTUAL DATE THAT IT'S GETTING SWEPT. AND AT THIS POINT, I BELIEVE IT HAD ALREADY GONE DOWN MY STREET. SO I'M GETTING THE EMAIL AFTER MY STREET'S ALREADY BEEN SWEPT. AND WHEN I HAD SAID THIS, THE RESPONSE THAT I GOT, WE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THERE ARE OCCASIONAL ISSUES WITH OUR ALERT SYSTEM, WHICH MAY RESULT IN NOTIFICATIONS NOT BEING DELIVERED AS INTENDED, BUT AS SOMEONE THAT'S HAD TO RUN OUTSIDE IN MY PAJAMAS. THE LAST TWO TIMES THAT THERE'S BEEN A STREET SWEEPING, I DON'T APPRECIATE THE I DON'T APPRECIATE IT. AND SO I WOULD JUST LOVE TO ASK PUBLICLY FOR YOU ALL TO IMPROVE THAT SYSTEM. AND IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A TECHNICAL ERROR. IT SOUNDS LIKE A HUMAN ERROR. AND I REALLY HOPE THAT YOU ALL ARE IMPROVING

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WHAT WAS THE CAUSE OF THE FIRE? WE DO NOT KNOW THE CAUSE OF THE FIRE. WHEN I SPOKE TO LFD ON SATURDAY NIGHT. SO THEY THERE'S NO WAY WE COULD TELL WHAT HAPPENED. THE POWER WAS TOO LARGE AND IT WAS TOO SPREAD, BUT THEY PUT IT OUT MAYBE 1130 SATURDAY NIGHT. OUR TEAM CAME IN YESTERDAY, HAULED EVERYTHING OUT. WRC OPENED THIS MORNING AT REGULAR SCHEDULED TIME. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? COUNCILMAN HERNDON? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU FOR COMING.

I YOU MAY HAVE ANSWERED THIS QUESTION. I'LL SELF-DESTRUCT MYSELF. NO. SO WHEN YOU IMPOUND VEHICLES FOR ILLEGAL DUMPING. YES, SIR. WHAT HAPPENS ON SUBSEQUENT VIOLATIONS? IS THERE A CERTAIN POINT, LIKE WITH STREET RACING, WHERE THEY JUST TAKE THE VEHICLE? NO, SIR, BUT THE THE FINE INCREASES FOR A REPEAT OFFENDER. BUT WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE THAT. THAT'S NOT IN THE ORDINANCE FOR US TO BE ALLOWED TO TAKE TO DO THAT. PERHAPS WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT. I MEAN, JUST JUST ASKING. BUT I DO KNOW THAT WITH THE, WITH THE STREET RACING THING THAT THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT CRUSHING THEM, I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO CRUSH A PERFECTLY GOOD VEHICLE WITH SOMEBODY. THERE ARE LOTS OF FOLKS OUT THERE WHO NEED CARS, NEED RIGHT AND COULD USE THEM. WE CAN HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IT. YEAH. I'M JUST JUST A THOUGHT. I MEAN, I JUST THINK IT'S A, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN SET UP A LOTTERY SYSTEM RATHER THAN SELLING THEM OR CRUSHING THEM, THAT WE COULD, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO GIVE SOME FOLKS SOME TRANSPORTATION THEY MIGHT NOT OTHERWISE HAVE. I KNOW SOME PEOPLE CAN AFFORD TO KEEP A CAR, BUT THEY CAN'T GET A CAR. SO IT'S JUST A LITTLE THING. BUT JUST SOMETHING LIKE THAT. TEACH A LESSON AND ALSO HELP SOMEBODY OUT. EXACTLY. YEAH. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE IN THE QUEUE? YES. WHO'S IN THE QUEUE? OKAY.

EVERYBODY OKAY? ALL RIGHT. I WAS GOING TO ASK IF WE COULD GET ANY VIDEO COVERAGE FROM ALL OF THE CAMERAS THAT YOU HAVE ON YOUR TRUCKS. IF COUNCILWOMAN CHAPPELL RUNNING OUT IN HER PAJAMAS. WELL, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. VERY, VERY INFORMATIVE AND AND HELPFUL. AND WITH NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, WE STAND ADJOURNED TH.

[Adjournment Note: Agendas are followed at the discretion of the Chair. While an item may be listed, it does not mean all items will be heard and/or acted upon by the Committee.]