Sep 16, 2025 Planning and Zoning Committee

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ANYBODY ONLINE. OKAY. WE'RE JOINED ONLINE BY COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS. THIS MEETING IS BEING HELD PURSUANT TO CARRIES 61.826 AND COUNCIL RULE FIVE A THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS WE HAVE

[1. O-187-25     AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE ZONING OF PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 6110 ½ BLEVINS GAP ROAD AND 13001, 13003 AND 13015 EAST ORELL ROAD CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 41.8 ACRES AND BEING IN LOUISVILLE METRO (CASE NO. 23ZONE0108). 9/2/25 Planning and Zoning Committee  Held 8/19/25 Planning and Zoning Committee Held Action Required By October 12, 2025 **Council Member Crystal Bast (R-14) can vote on this zoning change** Sponsors: Andrew Owen (D-9) ]

JULIA WILLIAMS, OFFICE OF PLANNING. SO THIS IS LOCATED ON BLEVINS GAP ROAD AND EAST OR RAILROAD IN COUNCIL DISTRICT 14. THE EXISTING USE IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. THE PROPOSALS FOR SINGLE AND MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. THE EXISTING ZONING IS R4 IN THE

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THE CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R4 TO R5 AND R6, AND THERE WAS A DETAILED DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT PLAN, MAJOR PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLAN WITH BINDING ELEMENTS, 336 APARTMENTS.

PROPOSED, 71 SINGLE FAMILY HOME LOTS PROPOSED, ALL ON 41.8 ACRES, APPROXIMATELY 1500 FEET EAST OF DIXIE HIGHWAY. THERE'S ONE HOUSE TO BE REMOVED. THERE'S POND CREEK, LOCATED ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SITE, AND THE SITE HAS AREAS OF WETLANDS AND FLOODPLAINS. THIS IS THE APPLICANT'S DEVELOPMENT PLAN. ELEVATIONS FOR THE MULTI-FAMILY SUBJECT PROPERTY.

ADJACENT PROPERTY. SO THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING WAS HELD ON JUNE 13TH, 2023. THE LAND DEVELOPMENT TRANSPORTATION MEETING WAS HELD ON MAY 8TH, 2025. THE PLANNING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING ON JULY 14TH, 2025, WHERE THERE WAS A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE CHANGE OF ZONING FROM R4 TO R5 AND R6, PASSING BY A VOTE OF 7 TO 2. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU JULIA. I HAVE THIS IS IN COUNCIL DISTRICT 14 AND I RECEIVED A SHORT LETTER FROM COUNCILWOMAN BESS LA BRADLEY BEARDEN, AND THEY ASKED THAT I READ THIS LETTER INTO THE RECORD. SO IT SAYS GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M BRADLEY BEARDEN, LEGISLATIVE ASSISTANT TO. SHE REGRETS NOT BEING HERE TODAY AS SHE IS CELEBRATING THE BIRTH OF HER FIRST GRANDCHILD. COUNCILWOMAN BAST HAS REVIEWED ORDINANCE 018725 REGARDING THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE FOR PROPERTIES ON BLEVINS GAP ROAD AND EAST ORAL ROAD. SHE HAS SOUGHT IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PLAN THROUGH BINDING ELEMENTS. SOME OF THESE WERE AGREED TO. OTHERS WERE DENIED OR ARE STILL BEING CONSIDERED. SHE WANTED TO THANK ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY FEASTER FOR HIS WORK ON THIS, AND THE APPLICANTS WHO HAVE TRIED TO ADDRESS MANY OF OUR CONCERNS. WITH THAT SAID, COUNCILWOMAN BASSE BELIEVES THAT THE SENTIMENT OF HER CONSTITUENTS AND AS WELL AS THE IMPACT THIS PROJECT WILL HAVE ON THIS AREA, WILL BE TWO NEGATIVE. BECAUSE OF THAT, SHE PLANS TO VOTE NO ON THIS MATTER WHEN IT GETS TO THE FULL METRO COUNCIL. COUNCILWOMAN BASSE DECISION IS BASED ON CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC CONGESTION AND ROAD SAFETY, WHICH ARE ALREADY STRAINED IN THE AREA. LACK OF NEARBY GROCERY STORES, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND SCHOOLS, WHICH LIMITS THE INFRASTRUCTURE AVAILABLE TO SUPPORT ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT LIKE THAT WHICH IS PART OF THIS PROPOSAL. WITH THAT IN MIND, SHE WILL BE VOTING NO AND WILL CONTINUE TO WORK TO EITHER GET ADDITIONAL CONCESSIONS REGARDING BINDING ELEMENTS OR SUPPORT TO PASS ALTERNATIVE FINDINGS. PRIOR TO A FULL VOTE BY THE METRO COUNCIL NEXT WEEK, COUNCILWOMAN BASS REMAINS COMMITTED TO RESPONSIBLE GROWTH THAT PROTECTS THE CHARACTER AND WELL-BEING OF DISTRICT 14. THANK YOU. NO. COUNCIL COUNCILMAN VACHON IS A IS SOMEWHAT ADJACENT HERE. AND SO I KNOW HE HAS SOME SOME THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS. SO MAYBE YOU WANT TO TAKE OVER THE FLOOR. COUNCILMAN VACHON. THANK YOU.

CHAIR. JULIA, CAN YOU TELL ME MAYBE WERE THEY ON THE RECORD OR NOT? BUT THE TWO. NO VOTES AND WHAT THEY WERE FOR. MAINLY INFRASTRUCTURE. SO THERE WAS SOME CONCERNS ABOUT SIDEWALKS.

BUT THE LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE ALREADY BEING IN PLACE WAS MAYBE THE BIGGEST CONCERN BETWEEN THE TWO THAT ARE WE TALKING AS FAR AS INFRASTRUCTURE GOES, LIKE STOPLIGHTS, SPEED LIGHTS, TURNING LANES, OR ARE WE TALKING INFRASTRUCTURES LIKE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INFRASTRUCTURE, LIKE GROCERY STORES OR, OR AMENITIES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE? I WOULD SAY BOTH WERE BROUGHT UP AS CONCERNS, LACK OF GROCERY STORES, PLACES TO GO WAS A CONCERN, AS WELL AS THE LACK OF PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE ROADS. WHERE DOES THIS DEVELOPMENT LAND? IF YOU WERE LOOKING AT THE 2040 PLAN, AND HOW DOES THAT FALL IN LINE THERE? STAFF WAS IN SUPPORT OF THAT AND FOUND THAT THE PROPOSAL MET THE. MET THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF PLAN 2040. THANK YOU. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. IS THE 336 MULTIFAMILY UNITS AN INCORRECT NUMBER? BECAUSE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, WASN'T THERE AT ONE HEARING THAT THEY DECIDED TO GO FROM THREE STORY ON SOME OF THE BUILDINGS TO TWO STORY. YES. I THINK I HAVE THAT IN A MINUTES. SO THERE WAS A REDUCTION. THERE

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OKAY, I'M JUST GOING TO READ THEM. AND THEN IF I THINK THERE'S ANYTHING THAT MIGHT NEED EXPLAINING, I WILL EXTRAPOLATE A BIT. STARTING WITH THE NEW NUMBER 16 APPLICANT, DEVELOPER, OWNER SHALL INSTALL AND MAINTAIN A SECURITY SYSTEM ON SITE. NUMBER 17 APPLICANT DEVELOPER OWNER SHALL INSTALL LIGHTING AT THE VARIOUS ACCESS POINTS TO FROM BLEVINS GAP ROAD AND EAST ORWELL ROAD, AS WELL AS A STREETLIGHT AT THE INTERSECTION OF BLEVINS GAP AND EAST RL. NUMBER 18. APPLICANT DEVELOPER OWNER SHALL STOP SIGNS ON SITE AT THE VARIOUS ACCESS POINTS TO FROM BLEVINS, GAP AND EAST RL 19 DEVELOPER SHALL NOT INSTALL FACTORY BUILT HOUSING ON SINGLE FAMILY PARCELS PRIOR TO JULY 1ST, 2026. AFTER JULY 1ST, 2026, THE INSTALLATION OF SUCH HOMES IS PERMITTED SO LONG AS EACH HOME MEETS THE DEFINITION OF QUALIFIED MANUFACTURED HOME AS DEFINED IN KRS 100.3 48. YOU ALL WILL REMEMBER WE RECENTLY AMENDED OUR MANUFACTURED HOME REGULATIONS. WE TWICE WE HAD A BIG SCALE REWORK AND THEN A SMALL TWEAK BECAUSE OF SOME STATE STATUTES. AND IT BASICALLY METRO CAN'T DO ANYTHING TO RESTRICT DEFINED, QUALIFIED MANUFACTURED HOUSING. INTERPRETED THAT AS BEING AS BROAD AS IN BINDING ELEMENTS. SO THAT'S WHY THAT CAVEATS THERE. NUMBER 20. IF WITHIN TEN YEARS OF THE APPROVAL OF THE REZONING OF THIS SITE, PUBLIC WORKS WISHES TO CONVERT THE INTERSECTION OF BLEVINS GAP AND EAST RL TO A FOUR WAY STOP, APPLICANT DEVELOPER OWNER SHALL INSTALL THE REQUESTED STOP SIGNS AT THEIR OWN COST AND EXPENSE, NOT TO INCLUDE ANY NECESSARY RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION. NOTICE OF SUCH REQUEST SHALL BE SENT VIA CERTIFIED MAIL TO THE THEN OWNER OF RECORD OF THE MULTIFAMILY PORTION OF THE SITE.

DEFINING ELEMENT 21. IF WITHIN TEN YEARS OF THE APPROVAL OF THE REZONING, THIS SITE, THE KENTUCKY TRANSPORTATION CABINET DECIDES TO INSTALL A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT THE INTERSECTION OF DIXIE HIGHWAY AND BLEVINS GAP ROAD. APPLICANT OWNER DEVELOPER SHALL CONTRIBUTE $10,000 TOWARDS THE INSTALLATION OF SUCH SIGNAL UPON REQUEST OF KYTC OR PUBLIC WORKS. NOTICE OF SUCH REQUEST SHALL BE SENT VIA CERTIFIED MAIL TO THE THEN OWNER OF RECORD OF THE MULTIFAMILY PORTION OF THE SITE. THAT FIGURE, JUST BY WAY OF EXPLANATION, OBVIOUSLY ISN'T THE FULL COST OF THE SIGNAL. I THINK IT'S ROUGHLY 10%. THE APPLICANT'S TRAFFIC STUDY WAS DISCUSSED, SOME AT AT THE COMMISSION, AND IT REALLY DOESN'T HAVE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF IMPACT ON THAT INTERSECTION COMPARED TO WHAT THE CURRENT TRAFFIC LEVELS ARE.

AND THIS IS NOT A CASE WHERE THEY'RE DEVELOPING RIGHT ON THAT CORNER. OBVIOUSLY, THEY'RE AN INTERSECTION BACK. SO THIS IS ROUGHLY THE SORT OF PROPORTIONAL SHARE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER AS FAR AS WHAT THE LIKELY IMPACT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO BE.

ULTIMATELY, IT'S UP TO KYTC WHETHER OR NOT THAT PROJECT WILL MOVE FORWARD. AND THEN FINALLY, NUMBER 22 IS THE STANDARD BINDING ELEMENT. THAT IS ALL I HAVE, BUT I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. TRAVIS WAS, DID I MISS SOMETHING OR IS THERE ANYTHING RELATED TO A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION ACROSS THE RAILROAD TRACK SIDE? MAYBE SIDEWALK IN IN THOSE BINDING ELEMENTS? SO THERE'S VARIOUS ADDITIONAL PROJECTS THAT WOULD CONNECT THIS PROJECT FROM THIS SITE TO DIXIE UP BLEVINS. I BELIEVE THOSE ALL HAVE SOME SORT OF INDEPENDENT FUNDING AT THIS POINT. I DON'T THINK THE APPLICANT HAS ANY OFF SITE IMPROVEMENTS PROPOSED, BUT I WILL DOUBLE CHECK ON THE EXISTING BINDING ELEMENTS TO SEE HOW THAT READS. HEY JULIA, CAN YOU BRING UP THAT DEVELOPMENT PLAN AGAIN? SO I JUST WANT TO SEE WHERE HOW IT.

SO THE RAIL IS ON THE. OKAY. OKAY. COUNCIL MCCRACKEN, CAN I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THE

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FLOCK CAMERAS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO I THIS IS THE LIST OF EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SORT OF AGREED TO THUS FAR. I HAVE RECEIVED SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, AND I'M HAPPY TO SORT OF HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS PRIOR TO FULL COUNCIL. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON THE BINDING ELEMENTS. I THINK THIS IS A SITUATION WHERE I THINK THE DEVELOPERS ARE ARE DOING WHAT THE CONSTITUENTS ARE ASKING AND TRYING TO AMEND THE THE PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES AND INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES. AGAIN, I GO BACK TO THE CHICKEN AND EGG SITUATION OF WHAT COMES FIRST, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR THE OR THE PEOPLE TO SPEND MONEY IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. I THINK IT'S I THINK WE'RE IN A WE'RE WE'RE THREADING A FINE NEEDLE HERE, AND I THINK THINGS ARE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION IN THE SOUTH END. AND THIS COULD BE A STEP FORWARD.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT YOUR MOTION IS THOSE ARE THE THOSE BINDING ELEMENTS ARE ON THE SYSTEM BUT HAVE NOT BEEN. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. DO WE HAVE ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION IN FRONT OF US? OKAY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION PLEASE SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED WITH NONE OPPOSED. THE MOTION IS ADOPTED. NOW, YOU HAD SOME MORE BINDING ELEMENTS THAT YOU WANTED TO BRING UP. NOW ARE THOSE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE WORKED ON BETWEEN NOW. TRAVIS IS WORKING ON THEM BETWEEN NOW AND COUNCIL. SO THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT ARE BROUGHT BEFORE US ON THE COUNCIL FLOOR. IS THAT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING, TRAVIS? YEAH. I MEAN, I WOULD SAY AT THIS POINT THERE'S STILL SOME OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS AND THAT MAY RESULT IN SOME ADDITIONAL CHANGES. WE'LL SEE. OKAY. WHILE I'VE TAKEN A MOMENT HERE, I WANT TO JUST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY COUNCIL COMMITTEE MEMBER PARISH. RIGHT, VIRTUALLY. AND I ALSO FAILED TO MENTION THAT COUNCILWOMAN RAYMOND HAS AN EXCUSED ABSENCE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ABOUT THIS BEFORE COUNCIL? COUNCILWOMAN RUBY? YES. THANK YOU. AS I WAS READING THE REPORT, OKAY. AS I WAS READING THE REPORT, WHICH THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF IN THERE, I BELIEVE I SAW SOMETHING ABOUT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX GOING IN ACROSS THE ROAD FROM THEM. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT THERE'S ANOTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX PREPARED FOR DEVELOPMENT ACROSS BLEVINS GAP? I BELIEVE NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. OKAY. THAT'S WHY I'M CHECKING, BECAUSE THAT WOULD DEFINITELY WEIGH IN ON THINGS. THANK YOU. I'LL FLIP THROUGH HERE AND SEE IF I CAN STILL SEE IT. COUNCILMAN HUDSON. THANK YOU. CHAIR. THE ONE OF THE BINDING ELEMENTS THAT WE JUST VOTED IN. IS A A LITTLE BIT VAGUE. NUMBER 16, DEVELOPER SHALL INSTALL AND MAINTAIN A SECURITY SYSTEM ON SITE. THAT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, JUST ONE CAMERA. CAN YOU EXPAND ON THE BINDING ELEMENT THAT TALKS ABOUT THE SECURITY SYSTEM AND WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS OF THAT MIGHT BE? AND THEN EXPAND ON THE BINDING ELEMENTS THAT I THINK YOU SAID SOME ARE PENDING, SOME WERE REJECTED. I'M GOING TO DEFER TO TRAVIS. YEAH, I THINK TRAVIS, THAT'S PROBABLY A QUESTION FOR YOU. SURE. AND I DON'T WANT TO. I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK BEYOND SORT OF WHAT

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SO IT I KNOW THAT THE APPLICANT HAD INTENDED I BELIEVE THEY HAVE SOME I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE A CONTRACT OR NOT, BUT THEY THEY INTENDED TO INSTALL A SECURITY SYSTEM IN PLACE TO SORT OF MONITOR THE MULTIFAMILY PARTIAL PORTION OF THE FACILITY, WHICH I THINK IS SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPERS DO. I DON'T KNOW TO WHAT EXTENT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT COMPANY THEY'RE USING, WHAT QUALITY CAMERAS, ANY OF THOSE REALLY. THEY MAY BE WILLING TO GET INTO SOME SOME SPECIFICS, BUT IT'S ALSO POSSIBLE IF THEY HAVE A SECURITY CONTRACTOR, THAT THEY COULD CHANGE CONTRACTS AND THAT MIGHT RESULT IN, YOU KNOW, A REDUCTION OR INCREASE THE NUMBER OF CAMERAS OR LOCATIONS. SO THOSE THINGS CAN GET A LITTLE FLEXIBLE. AND TYING DOWN ANYTHING TOO SPECIFIC MIGHT LIMIT THEIR ABILITY TO, YOU KNOW, FIND THOSE SECURITY ASPECTS IN THE FREE MARKET. I CAN ADD SOME CLARITY. WHAT I'M REALLY ASKING, WHAT I'M REALLY LOOKING FOR HERE IS, IS THE DEVELOPER WILLING TO ALLOW THAT SECURITY SYSTEM TO INTERFACE WITH METRO'S LMPD SECURITY? THAT'S WHY I CAN SPEAK A LITTLE TO THAT, TOO. THERE IS A PROGRAM BY WHICH FOLKS WHO HAVE SECURITY SYSTEMS CAN SIGN UP TO TO WORK WITH LMPD IN CERTAIN CONDITIONS. SO THERE'S SORT OF A FRONT END THAT CAN BE AGREED TO. THERE'S ALSO A BACK END, YOU KNOW, WHERE IF SOMETHING DOES OCCUR IN LMPD NEEDS ACCESS, THEY CAN ALWAYS GO OUT TO A SITE AND SAY, HEY, WE'D LOVE TO SEE WHAT'S ON YOUR FEED. WE HAVE REASON TO BELIEVE SUCH THAT'S HAPPENED HERE. AND IF THAT FAILS, THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEEK A WARRANT TO OBTAIN THAT INFORMATION IF THEY THINK THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S RELEVANT TO AN INVESTIGATION. SO THERE'S SORT OF A TIER SYSTEM THERE. I WILL SEND THE APPLICANT THE SORT OF FORMS IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT WE CAN REQUIRE FOLKS TO, TO GIVE DATA OF THEIR SITE TO LMPD FOREVER. I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S A PRETTY BROAD. REQUEST.

WELL, I, I'M NOT ASKING THAT WE REQUIRE THEM TO DO IT. I'M ASKING ARE THEY WILLING TO VOLUNTEER IT. WHICH IS A MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF A TWIST ON ON THE QUESTION. LIKE I SAID, I MEAN, THERE'S A THERE'S A PROGRAM THAT CAN PARTICIPATE IN I'LL GIVE THEM THE RELEVANT AND HERE'S, HERE'S, HERE'S WHY I'M ASKING. BECAUSE WE WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE HAVE A FLOCK CAMERA.

THEIR FLOCK CAMERAS ARE VERY EXPENSIVE. IF THEY'RE ALREADY PUTTING A SECURITY SYSTEM IN.

JUST ALLOWING LMPD TO HAVE ACCESS TO THAT VIDEO FOOTAGE SHOULD SOME CRIME OCCUR, AVOIDS THE COST OF A FLOCK CAMERA. I'M TRYING TO FIND A WIN WIN HERE FOR EVERYBODY, AND HAVING THAT ACCESS WOULD HELP ME TO HELP ME A LONG WAY ON THIS ONE. AND THAT WASN'T A QUESTION. IT WAS JUST MORE OF A STATEMENT. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN, I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS IN CHAMBERS. COUNCILWOMAN RUBY. OKAY. THANK YOU. JULIA, ON THE RESIDENT EMAILS, PAGE NINE. SO THIS IS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AND IT'S POINT NUMBER THREE, AND IT SAYS. EXACTLY. I'M SURE THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS AWARE OF THE 270 APARTMENTS THAT ARE TO BE BUILT JUST ACROSS THE STREET AT WEST LAUREL ROAD, NOT EVEN A BLOCK AWAY. I THINK THAT MIGHT BE REFERRING TO THE FLOWER VEIL OR. DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS THAT CHANGE IN ZONING THAT WAS APPROVED. I THINK THAT MIGHT BE WHAT THAT WAS REFERRING TO.

OKAY. BECAUSE THAT WOULD DEFINITELY FEED INTO THE INCREASED TRAFFIC, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING FOR 270 THERE WITH WHATEVER, 300 AND SOMETHING WE HAD OVER HERE THAT THAT PAINTS A VERY DIFFERENT PICTURE. THE TRAFFIC LOAD THERE. AND EVENTUALLY THAT ROAD'S PROBABLY GOING TO NEED TO BE WIDENED AND A LIGHT ETCETERA, ETCETERA. YEAH. BRIAN, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO ADD ON THAT POINT? OKAY. COUNCILMAN BACON, MR. CHAIR, IF IT'S OKAY, CAN I. CAN I ANSWER? COUNCILWOMAN, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. SO, COUNCILWOMAN, THE APARTMENTS THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO ARE AT ORAL ROAD, ABOUT A BLOCK AND A HALF OR SO UP DIXIE HIGHWAY NORTH THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN DEVELOPED, THAT ARE THAT ARE ALREADY

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YOU'RE. ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY THAT ALLOW THAT TO GO. AND I WOULD NOT CALL THAT IN CLOSE PROXIMITY IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT WITH THE WATSON LANE PROJECT. SO I KIND OF WANT TO WEIGH IN A LITTLE BIT HERE. I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE NOT BEING ROBUST ENOUGH IN PARTS OF TOWN TO SUPPORT NEW DEVELOPMENT AND WHETHER AND AS COUNCILMAN BEACHAM WAS SAYING EARLIER, IT'S KIND OF A CHICKEN AND EGG SCENARIO. THAT'S KIND OF ONE THING. AND THEN SO WE'RE NOT OBLIVIOUS TO THAT CONVERSATION, NOR ARE WE OBLIVIOUS TO THE CONVERSATIONS THAT HAPPEN AROUND COMMUNITY, AROUND THE COMMUNITY ABOUT CERTAIN ROADS THAT HAVE HIGHER ACCIDENT RATES AND SOME HIGHER, YOU KNOW, SERIOUS ACCIDENT RATES, INCLUDING DIXIE HIGHWAY. SO I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE'RE NOT OBLIVIOUS TO ANY OF THOSE THINGS. IT PROBABLY WON'T SURPRISE ANYONE THAT HAS LISTENED TO THIS COMMITTEE THAT I WILL BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS MOVING FORWARD. I JUST THINK THAT GIVEN THE THE CHICKEN AND EGG SCENARIO THAT WE'RE IN, I JUST AND THE SIGNIFICANT DEFICIT OF HOUSING UNITS THAT WE HAVE, I'M GOING TO TEND TO ON THE SIDE OF NEW HOUSING UNITS OVER AND AGAINST THE INFRASTRUCTURE ARGUMENT, PARTICULARLY ON RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS. WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT ANOTHER ONE LATER TODAY. THAT'S THAT'S NOT A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, WHICH FACTORS IN MY MIND A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE OF, AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE SIGNIFICANT DEFICIT OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT WE ARE FACING. SO JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THOSE THINGS. DID WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE THAT HAS SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO TO WEIGH IN ON THIS BEFORE WE OPEN THE ROLL? OKAY. CHERYL, CAN YOU OPEN THE ROLL, PLEASE? VOTE IS OPEN. COUNCIL MEMBER WRIGHT. YES. JUST CLOSING YOUR FOUR, FOUR YES VOTES. ONE PRESENT AND TWO TWO PRESENT. I'M SORRY. OKAY, SO. SO THIS WILL BE FORWARDED.

VOTE OF 412. THIS VOTE. THIS WILL BE FORWARDED TO OLD BUSINESS ON THE NEXT COUNCIL AGENDA. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER TWO I DON'T SEE COUNCILMAN PIAGENTINI YET, SO WE'RE GOING TO HOLD THAT FOR A FEW MORE MINUTES UNTIL HE'S ABLE TO COME IN. SO OUR NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS IS ITEM NUMBER THREE. ARE WE STILL HOLDING THREE FOR A MINUTE? OKAY. COUNCIL COUNCILMAN WINKLER, WE'RE CALLING ITEM NUMBER FIVE FIRST. YES. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS R-115, DASH

[5. R-115-25     A RESOLUTION REQUESTING THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW THE METRO LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REGULATIONS WITH REGARD TO DATA CENTERS. Action Required By March 11, 2026 Sponsors: Markus Winkler (D-17) ]

MAYBE WE'LL SPEAK TO THIS A LITTLE BIT. YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY THEY FALL UNDER THE CATEGORY, THE BROAD CATEGORY OF TELECOM HOTEL, WHICH, YOU KNOW, HAS EXISTED FOR A LONG TIME AND, YOU KNOW, MOSTLY CONSISTS OF SORT OF RELATIVELY SMALL BRICK BUILDINGS WHERE THINGS LIKE AT&T WIRES TERMINATE, YOU KNOW, BUT NOT A LOT OF ACTIVITY. THEY HAVE A RELATIVELY SMALL FOOTPRINT AND ARE SORT OF INNOCUOUS, AND YOU MAY NOT EVEN KNOW THAT THEY'RE IN MANY, MANY

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ABSOLUTELY. YEAH, YEAH. BRIAN DAVIS, LOUISVILLE METRO OFFICE OF PLANNING. SO RIGHT NOW, YEAH, IF YOU SCAN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, THERE IS NOT A LISTING PER SE FOR DATA CENTERS. THE, THE, THE KIND OF WORKING INTERPRETATION THAT WE'VE BEEN UTILIZING FOR WHEN WE HAVE A USE THAT IS SIMILAR TO THAT IS THE TELECOMMUNICATION HOTELS, WHICH WHILE NOT DEFINED IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, IF YOU GO AND AND LOOK AT OTHER PLANNING RELATED ARTICLES AND DEFINITIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THE TWO USES ARE SIMILAR.

BUT LIKE COUNCILMAN WINKLER SAID, IT'S KIND OF LIKE DATA CENTERS ARE THE EVOLUTION OF THESE TELECOMMUNICATION HOTELS THAT WE ARE, ARE MORE FAMILIAR WITH. YOU KNOW, BOTH OF THEM TEND TO HOLD, YOU KNOW, COMPUTER EQUIPMENT, SERVERS AND, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF ELECTRONICS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IT'S JUST THAT WHAT WE ARE STARTING TO SEE MORE IN THE, IN THE WORLD IS THAT THESE DATA CENTERS ARE BECOMING LARGER AND LARGER. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE OTHER COMMUNITIES WHO HAVE TAKEN STEPS FORWARD IN TERMS OF CREATING NEW REGULATIONS. WE WE WE'VE KIND OF ANTICIPATED THIS ONE COMING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE DID HAVE AN APPLICATION THAT CAME THROUGH FOR A DATA CENTER THAT WENT THROUGH EARLIER THIS SUMMER. AND SO AS PART OF JUST KIND OF RESEARCHING THAT AND LISTENING TO SOME OTHER CONVERSATIONS THAT OTHER COMMUNITIES AROUND THE STATE ARE HAVING, WE STARTED LOOKING AROUND AT SOME OF OUR REGIONAL PEER CITIES AND, AND BEYOND TO TRY AND FIND, OKAY, IF SOMETHING DOES COME DOWN, WHAT WHAT ARE SOME REGULATIONS THAT WE CAN POTENTIALLY THINK ABOUT IMPLEMENTING. AND SO, YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK POTENTIALLY SEPARATING THOSE DEFINITIONS, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, IS, YOU KNOW, IS IT IS IT A A SQUARE FOOTAGE THRESHOLD. YOU KNOW, WHAT WHAT IS GOING TO DIFFERENTIATE THAT BETWEEN THE TWO ITEMS? WE WILL GET IN A LITTLE FURTHER INTO RESEARCH THROUGHOUT THE NEXT MONTH OR SO AS WE TRY TO COME UP WITH A DRAFT, WE'RE ALSO PREPARED TO REACH OUT TO SOME OF OUR SUBURBAN CITIES WITH ZONING AUTHORITY WHO HAVE INDUSTRIAL ZONED AREA TO KIND OF GET SOME INPUT FROM THEM ALSO, BECAUSE, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, AS, AS A REGION, WE WANT TO THINK, YOU KNOW, AS ONE COMMUNITY. AND SO WE'RE WE'RE INTERESTED IN THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GET FROM THEM.

SO YEAH, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW THE TELECOMMUNICATION HOTELS, THEY'RE PERMITTED IN EIGHT DIFFERENT DISTRICTS, C3 COMMERCIAL, C.M. AND THEN ALL OF OUR INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS M1, M2, M3 AND THEN A COUPLE OF THE HYBRIDS, Z1 PRO AND PEC, A LOT OF ALPHABET SOUP THERE. BUT YOU KNOW, BUT SO SO WE DO HAVE OPTIONS RIGHT NOW. BUT AGAIN THE QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, DO WE WANT TO KIND OF DRILL DOWN A LITTLE BIT TO, TO FIND FINE TUNE THOSE DEFINITIONS BETWEEN THE USES AND, AND MAYBE TAKE A LOOK AT THE AT WHERE THEY'RE PERMITTED. ONCE WE START LOOKING AT LIKE LARGER DEVELOPMENTS. SO AGAIN OUR, OUR INTENT IS TO CONTINUE TO DO RESEARCH AND REACH OUT TO INTERESTED PARTIES THROUGHOUT THE NEXT MONTH AND A HALF OR SO.

I THINK IDEALLY, GIVEN THE TIME FRAME THAT IS IN THE THE THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION, WE WOULD PROBABLY PROBABLY RELEASE SOME SORT OF PUBLIC DRAFT EARLY NOVEMBER SO WE CAN START GETTING COMMENTS ON THAT, AND THEN WE WOULD LIKELY SHOOT FOR A PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING ON JANUARY 15TH THAT WOULD FALL JUST INSIDE THE 120 DAYS THAT'S INSIDE THE RESOLUTION. SO THAT THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE ARE THINKING HERE AT THE OFFICE OF PLANNING. THANK YOU BRIAN. SO MOST OTHER PLACES HAVE CREATED A SPECIALIZED ZONING DISTRICT WITHIN WITHIN THEIR INDUSTRIAL CATEGORY TO ACCOMMODATE THESE. I MEAN, IS THAT GENERALLY WHAT YOU'VE SEEN? YOU KNOW, WE'RE SEEING DIFFERENT THINGS. I THINK A LOT OF LIKE OUR REGIONAL PEER CITIES ARE THEY THEY TEND TO TREAT THEM MORE JUST LIKE A WAREHOUSE OR, OR DATA OR LIKE, LIKE, LIKE INFORMATION CENTERS. WE'VE SEEN IT ALL OVER THE PLACE. WE'VE SEEN THEM ALLOWED IN OFFICES. WE'VE SEEN REQUIRED AND ONLY PERMITTED ONLY IN INDUSTRIAL AREAS. AND AND BECAUSE A LOT OF AGAIN, A LOT OF THE REGIONAL PEER CITIES THAT WE LOOK AT LIKE NASHVILLE

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I THINK THIS IS BADLY NEEDED. WE NEED TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND LOOK AND SEE WHAT BOUNDARIES WE CAN PUT ALONG, WHERE DATA CENTERS CAN BE LOCATED. THEY DO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY, OUR CITY, AND ON OUR UTILITY RATES. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. DID YOU HEAR THAT? CAN I BE ADDED TO THE QUEUE? I'M SORRY. YES. I'LL ADD YOU TO THE QUEUE, COUNCILMAN REED.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. SO, BRIAN, YOU MENTIONED PEER CITIES. DO THE PEER CITIES HAVE REVIEW CURRENTLY THAT WOULD GO TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEES. UNLIKE HERE IN THIS TELECOM HOTEL CLASSIFICATION. I MEAN WE WE AGAIN JUST LOOKING AT SOME OF THE REGIONAL PEER CITIES, NOBODY SPECIFICALLY HAS A REGULATION IN PLACE THAT SAYS, OKAY, THIS IS A DATA CENTER. IT HAS TO GO BEFORE YOU KNOW, THIS BODY OR THIS LEGISLATIVE BODY OR WHATEVER. IT'S IT'S STILL VERY MUCH SORT OF KIND OF UNDEFINED AND KIND OF FITS UNDER, AGAIN, KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE'VE DONE. THEY HAVE AN OLDER EXISTING USE THAT'S IN THE CODE. THEY'VE, THEY'VE PUT IT UNDER THERE FOR NOW UNTIL THE NEED COMES TO EXPLORE IT FURTHER. AND SO, YOU KNOW, AND AS WE LOOK AT SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES WHO HAVE DEVELOPED REGULATIONS, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT IS, IS, YOU KNOW, ARE THEY LIKE PERMITTED WITH SPECIAL STANDARDS LIKE WE DO FOR CERTAIN USES WHERE THEY HAVE TO CHECK SO MANY BOXES AND IF THEY DO THAT, THEY'RE OKAY, OR DOES IT REQUIRE SOME SORT OF REVIEW BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR WHATEVER? OKAY. AND THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY NEXT QUESTION. IS THERE A PARTICULAR REASON WHY THAT WITHIN THIS TELECOM HOTEL CLASSIFICATION, THAT THE COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE DOESN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW ADD BINDING ELEMENTS, IS THERE? I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT IT REALLY TO. WELL, WELL, I MEAN, LIKE ANY ANY DEVELOPMENT NOW, I MEAN THE IF THE USE MEETS A CERTAIN THRESHOLD, THEN IT WOULD REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, LIKE A CATEGORY TWO OR A CATEGORY THREE PLAN CATEGORY. CATEGORY TWO IS CAN BE APPROVED NOW AT STAFF LEVEL IF THERE AREN'T ANY WAIVERS OR VARIANCES. CAT THREE DOES REQUIRE A REVIEW BY EITHER THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR OTHER SUBCOMMITTEES. AND SO YOU KNOW THAT THAT'LL BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TAKE FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL AND FROM THE COMMUNITY AND SEE WHAT LEVEL OF REVIEW WE WANT ON THESE TYPES OF CENTERS. IF AND WHEN WE GET AN APPLICATION. OKAY. I'LL COME BACK IN AFTER COUNCILMAN HUDSON. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN HUDSON. WELL, MY MAMA WAS RIGHT. IF I LISTEN TWICE AS MUCH AS I TALK, THEN I USUALLY GET MY QUESTIONS ANSWERED, SO I'LL WITHDRAW.

COUNCILWOMAN PARRISH. RIGHT. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO COMMEND COUNCILMAN WINKLER ON THIS LEGISLATION, AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT PATH FORWARD. IT'S ANOTHER SPACE WHERE SOME OF THESE TECHNOLOGIES ARE AHEAD OF THE LAW. AND SO THIS GETS US IN LINE. AND I WOULD LIKE TO BE ADDED AS A CO-SPONSOR. I DID EMAIL HIM ABOUT IT TOO. BUT I THINK THIS IS GREAT BECAUSE WHEN WE THINK ABOUT SOME OF OUR DISTRICTS AND PARTS OF THE CITY, WE SOME FOLKS FEEL LIKE THINGS JUST GET DUMPED ON THEM. AND SO THIS SHOWS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF THOUGHTS AND PROCESSES TO REALLY IRON THIS OUT BEFORE. IF THIS IS HAPPENING, WE NEED TO BE AS KNOWLEDGEABLE AS POSSIBLE.

SO THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN REED, DID YOU WANT TO COME BACK IN? YES. THANK YOU, MISTER CHAIR.

SO BECAUSE TO ME, THIS AND I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS, I THINK THIS IS A VERY GOOD IDEA. I DO HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THOUGH, AND I DO REPRESENT A DISTRICT THAT HAS A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF SUBURBAN CITIES. AND I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO SOME OF THE SUBURBAN CITY MAYORS AND GET THEIR INPUT ON THIS. SO WITH THAT IN MIND, I'M GOING TO MOTION THAT WE TABLE THIS FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION. OKAY. THIS THE RESOLUTION OR THE ORDINANCE NUMBER FOUR, MR. CHAIR? NO, THE RESOLUTION. COUNCIL I'M SORRY, WE'RE ON WE'RE ON NUMBER. WE'RE ON NUMBER FIVE. SO TECHNICALLY WE WOULD WE WOULD MOVE TO ON NUMBER FOUR. WELCOME BACK. THANK YOU. OKAY. MY BAD. OKAY.

COUNCILMAN WINKLER. YEAH. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO COMMENT TO COUNCILMAN REED. YOU KNOW, I

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QUESTIONS ON. RESOLUTION. SO. THANK YOU. ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THE RESOLUTIONS AND RESOLUTION IN FRONT OF US? THIS IS A RESOLUTION THAT CALLS FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? ALL THOSE OPPOSED WITH, I THINK, UNANIMOUS APPROVAL. THIS WILL BE FORWARDED TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR ON THE NEXT COUNCIL AGENDA. OKAY. COUNCILMAN WINKLER, DID YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT ITEM NUMBER FOUR BEFORE WE BEFORE WE ADDRESS THAT? YES. THANK YOU, MISTER CHAIR. AND THANK YOU, COLLEAGUES AGAIN FOR HUMORING ME. I'M GOING TO HOLD. I'VE ASKED THE CHAIR TO HOLD THIS ITEM FOR TWO WEEKS. I'VE GOT SOME MEETINGS SET UP OVER THE NEXT WEEK TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE ANY UNINTENDED IMPACTS FROM THIS LEGISLATION, SO I'D LIKE TO HAVE TIME TO HAVE THOSE MEETINGS AND THEN COME BACK TO COMMITTEE. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER FOUR WILL BE HELD.

UNTIL THE NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING. LET'S SEE. SO, COUNCILMAN, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT COUNCILWOMAN PURVIS HAS JOINED US IN CHAMBERS, AND COUNCILMAN PIAGENTINI HAS JOINED US IN CHAMBERS AS WELL. THAT MEANS WE CAN GO BACK TO ITEM NUMBER TWO,

[2. O-188-25     AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE ZONING AND FORM DISTRICT OF PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 16223, 16301 AND 16305 SHELBYVILLE ROAD AND 211 JOHNSON ROAD CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 11.4 ACRES AND BEING IN LOUISVILLE METRO (CASE NO. 24ZONE0114). 9/2/25 Planning and Zoning Committee  Held 8/19/25 Planning and Zoning Committee Tabled Action Required By October 15, 2025 **Council Member Anthony Piagentini (R-19) can vote on this zoning change** Sponsors: Andrew Owen (D-9) ]

SO THEN WE JUST WENT BACK TO THE TOP OF THE QUEUE. ITEM NUMBER TWO. OKAY, SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND TURN THIS. THIS HAS BEEN IN FRONT OF US FOR A WHILE. WOULD YOU PREFER THAT? JULIA, GIVE A QUICK SYNOPSIS PRIOR. JULIA, CAN YOU GIVE US A QUICK SYNOPSIS ON ITEM NUMBER TWO, PLEASE? SURE. THIS IS 24 ZONE 0114. THIS IS IN COUNCIL DISTRICT 19 ALONG SHELBYVILLE ROAD AND JOHNSON ROAD. THE EXISTING USE IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. PROPOSED COMMERCIAL, EXISTING ZONING R4 AND C2 IN THE VILLAGE FORM DISTRICT. THE PROPOSALS FOR C1 IN THE VILLAGE CENTER FORM DISTRICT. THE CHANGE IN ZONING C FROM C2 AND R4 TO C1. CHANGE IN FORM DISTRICT. FROM VILLAGE TO VILLAGE CENTER. THERE'S A VARIANCE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND DETAILED DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH BINDING ELEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROPERTY. THE PROPOSALS FOR MIXED COMMERCIAL OFFICE ON 11.4 ACRES. THERE'S AMENITY SPACE BEING PROVIDED. NURSING HOME ON LOT NUMBER THREE, AN ACCESS FROM BOTH SHELBYVILLE ROAD AND JOHNSON ROADS. THE EASTWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN APPLIES TO THE SITE. THERE WAS A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY THEN. JUST KTC HAD NOT APPROVED A SIGNAL AT US 60 AND THE KENTUCKY 1531 INTERSECTION. THIS IS THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN SHOWING THE DIFFERENT LOTS AND USES. COLOR RENDERING OF THOSE. PROPOSED BUILDING ELEVATIONS. THE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ALONG SHELBYVILLE ROAD. ACROSS SHELBYVILLE ROAD. THIS IS ADJACENT PROPERTY ACROSS SHELBYVILLE ROAD. OTHER ADJACENT PROPERTY. THE APPLICANT HELD A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING ON JULY 22ND, 2020 FOR LAND DEVELOPMENT.

TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE HELD A MEETING ON MAY 22ND, 2025. PLANNING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING ON JULY 17TH, 2025, WHERE THERE WAS A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE

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FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS ALL TWO LANE SHELBYVILLE ROAD HERE. IT BRANCHES OUT INTO FOUR LANE OVER HERE. THIS INTERSECTION RIGHT HERE IS THE FAMOUS, OR RATHER INFAMOUS, EASTWOOD CUTOFF AND SHELBYVILLE ROAD INTERSECTION. THAT INTERSECTION IS UNDERGOING A SIGNIFICANT REDESIGN. IT IS ALSO A MASSIVELY FAILING INTERSECTION AND IS GOING THROUGH A HUGE REDESIGN BY THE STATE. CURRENTLY, THE REASON I'M BRINGING UP ALL OF SORT OF THE SURROUNDING AREA AND I WANT TO ZOOM OUT ON THIS, ON THIS, ON THIS DEVELOPMENT, IS BECAUSE THERE WERE TWO ITEMS THAT CAME UP THAT WERE THE MOST CONCERNING TO THE COMMUNITY AND THAT WE DELVED INTO ONE IS IS NOT ACTUALLY AN ISSUE AS I DELVED INTO IT. ONE IS THE WAY AND IF I BROUGHT THE SCHEMATIC, THE ROAD OTHERWISE KNOWN AS A A PARKING LOT. BUT THERE'S THEY'RE BUILDING THE DEVELOPER A ACCESS ROAD THAT KIND OF GOES LIKE THIS. SO IT CONNECTS IN SHELBYVILLE ROAD HERE, CONNECTS IN JOHNSON ROAD UP HERE. RIGHT. THAT ROAD OKAY. WELL I SAY ROAD.

IT IS TECHNICALLY CLASSIFIED AS A PARKING LOT EVEN THOUGH IT HAS A CONNECTION ON SHELBYVILLE ROAD HERE. HAS A CONNECTION ON JOHNSON ROAD HERE. THE REASON IT'S CLASSIFIED AS A PARKING LOT OR THINK OF IT AS ACCESS TO THE DEVELOPMENT, IS BECAUSE THERE'S ACTUALLY PARKING ON THAT ACCESS PAVEMENT, BECAUSE I CAN'T GO ON THE ROAD. IF IT WAS A ROAD, IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE TOO CLOSE TO THIS INTERSECTION, THIS INTERSECTION TO BE LEGALLY ALLOWED. BUT BECAUSE IT'S CLASSIFIED AS A PARKING LOT, THAT REGULATION DOES NOT APPLY. BUT THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT THE PROXIMITY OF ALL OF THAT. BUT WE'RE GOING TO IGNORE THAT ISSUE RELATED TO WHAT I'M PROPOSING TODAY. WHAT'S REALLY THE MOST CONCERNING PROBLEM AND WHERE I'M I AM FORCED REALLY TO SUPPORT MY COMMUNITY IN ASKING FOR AN OVERTURN HERE. AND TO BE CLEAR ABOUT WHY, I'M CLEAR, THIS IS ONLY THE SECOND TIME IN MY SEVEN YEARS ON COUNCIL THAT I'VE EVER ASKED FOR ONE, AND THAT'S CONSIDERING EVERYBODY KNOWS HOW MUCH DEVELOPMENT IS GOING ON IN MY DISTRICT. AND THE REASON IS, AGAIN, BECAUSE I ALWAYS TRY TO GET TO A YES, BUT THERE IS AN IRRECONCILABLE PROBLEM HERE. AND I ALSO WANT TO SAY I DON'T BLAME THE DEVELOPER FOR THIS LEM. IT IS A STRUCTURAL PROBLEM, A LOT OF WHICH IS DUE TO THE STATE AND THEN PARTIALLY THE CITY.

ALSO, YOU COULD ARGUE, BUT AS AN IRRECONCILABLE PROBLEM, THE INTERSECTION SURROUNDING THIS, PARTICULARLY THE JOHNSON ROAD INTERSECTION BY THE DEVELOPER'S OWN, IT'S ON THE RECORD BY THE DEVELOPER'S OWN TRAFFIC STUDY ARE FAILING MULTIPLE INTERSECTIONS. AND WHEN I SAY FAILING, I DO NOT MEAN LIKE THEY HAVE A C GRADE OR A D GRADE. I MEAN, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE AN F GRADE, RIGHT? AND THEN THEY ALSO PROJECT POST THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE AREA. WHAT WILL THE NEW GRADING OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS BE? THOSE SAME INTERSECTIONS CONTINUE TO FAIL

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THE ECHO TRAIL MIDDLE SCHOOL IS DOWN HERE OFF OF ECHO TRAIL. THIS IS WAS A FAILING INTERSECTION. BEFORE THAT SCHOOL WENT UP. WE HAD INCLUDING THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR IN THE SECRETARY OF TRANSPORTATION, COMMITTING THAT THIS INTERSECTION WOULD GET LIKE THE FASTEST APPROVAL TO SIGNALIZE IT AND TO REDEVELOP IT THAT THEY'VE EVER DONE ON LIKE THE PLANET EARTH. THERE IS STILL NOT BEEN A TEASPOON OF DIRT DONE TO MOVE ANYTHING RELATED TO THAT INTERSECTION. IT'S YEARS LATER. THAT SCHOOL IS NOW APPROACHING FULL CAPACITY, AND I TO THIS DATE, HAVE NO IDEA WHEN THE STATE'S GOING TO GET AROUND TO DOING THAT PROJECT. AND I COULD GO ON AND ON ABOUT OTHER PROJECTS IN MY DISTRICT THAT TAKE 15 YEARS.

IF THEY TAKE A DAY FOR THE STATE TO MOVE THEM DUE TO MULTIPLE REASONS. BECAUSE OF THAT, I AM PROPOSING AN AMENDMENT BY SUBSTITUTION. IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN UPLOADED SINCE I THINK, FRIDAY. THANK YOU TO THE METRO COUNCIL CLERK'S OFFICE. I'M NOT GOING TO READ EXACTLY EVERY SINGLE THING IN HERE, BECAUSE YOU CAN READ IT YOURSELF IF YOU WHEREAS CLAUSES ABOUT THIS AREA. IT'S AND THEN SAYS WHEREAS THE COUNCIL MAKES THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS OF FACT BASED ON THE RECORD ESTABLISHED BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO REJECT THE RECOMMENDATION TO MAINTAIN THE EXISTING C2 AND R4 RESIDENTIAL ZONING DESIGNATIONS, IT TALKS ABOUT THE INDIVIDUALS WHO CAME TESTIMONY PRIMARILY EXPRESSING CONCERNS OVER TRAFFIC ISSUES. THE APPLICANT'S TRAFFIC STUDY SHOWS THAT THE INTERSECTION OF SHELBYVILLE ROAD IS ALREADY A FAILING INTERSECTION, AND WOULD BE SIGNIFICANTLY FURTHER BURDENED BY THIS DEVELOPMENT. THE CHIEF, THE APPLICANT'S CHIEF, PROPOSED MITIGATION MEASURE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT THE INTERSECTION HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED BY KYTC, DESPITE EXISTING FAILING CONDITIONS. AND WHILE AGAIN, WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE WERE BINDING ELEMENTS INTENDED TO ENSURE IT DOES NOT PROCEED WITHOUT THE TRAFFIC TRAFFIC SIGNAL BEING INSTALLED THERE, ALLOWING THE DEVELOPMENT OF IT TO MOVE FORWARD EVEN WITHOUT THE SIGNALIZATION. AND THEN HERE'S THE FINAL POINT. WE REZONE THIS. IT'S REZONE PERMANENTLY, RIGHT? I'VE HEARD ARGUMENTS FROM PEOPLE. WELL, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE'LL PUT THE LIGHT UP AND MAYBE THE STATE WILL MOVE THE LIGHT LATER.

BECAUSE BY THE WAY, THE STATE'S ALREADY ACKNOWLEDGED YOU CAN'T HAVE A LIGHT HERE AND A LIGHT HERE. YOU CAN ONLY HAVE ONE OR THE OTHER. I'VE HEARD THE STATE COMMIT THAT THEY'RE PUTTING A LIGHT HERE. SO WE HAVE CONFLICTING MESSAGES FROM KYTC. WE DON'T HAVE ANY COMMITMENT FROM THEM ON THE RECORD, AND I AM LOATHE TO SUPPORT TO VOTE FOR A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

IT'S NOT ADDRESSING RESIDENTIAL NEEDS. FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE COMMUNITY, A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN AN AREA. AND THEN GO BACK TO MY SAYING, YEAH, THE INTERSECTION WAS FAILING.

YOU HAD TO CONTINUE TO FAIL. AND YEAH, I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMITMENTS TO FIX IT, BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST GOT TO SUCK IT UP AND BETTER LUCK NEXT TIME ON A PERMANENT CHANGE LIKE ZONING.

SO I WOULD ASK YOU TO ADOPT THIS AMENDMENT BY SUBSTITUTION. WITH THAT I'M ALLOWED TO VOTE, BUT I CAN MAKE A MOTION TO TO ADOPT IT. CORRECT. YEAH. OKAY. SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT MY AMENDMENT BY SUBSTITUTION RELATE TO THIS DEVELOPMENT OVERTURNING THE DECISION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. A MOTION IN FRONT OF US.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED. DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT

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IT'S NOT TO ME, IT DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME URGENCY BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT IT'S A THAT IT'S A A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND ISN'T MEETING THAT PARTICULAR NEED. I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT NEEDED. I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING. ANY JUDGMENT ON THE PROJECT ITSELF. I JUST TO ME IT DOESN'T IT'S NOT AS URGENT AS IT WOULD BE IF WE WERE ADDING ADDITIONAL UNITS. SO I'M EXTREMELY CONFLICTED BECAUSE I THINK THERE IS THERE IS A WORLD IN WHICH IF THE PROBLEM CONTINUES TO GET WORSE, IT DOES PUT PRESSURE ON ALL OF US, NOT JUST THE STATE, BUT ALL OF US, TO TO MOVE THINGS MORE QUICKLY. AND SO I DO THINK THERE'S A WORLD IN WHICH THAT WORKS, WHERE YOU JUST LET THINGS GET SO BAD THAT THAT WE ALL ARE FORCED TO TO MAKE DECISIONS AND ALLOCATE MONEY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. SO I'M EXTREMELY TORN ON THIS. BUT YEAH, I'LL JUST LEAVE IT LEAVE IT AT THAT. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE HAVE QUESTIONS BEFORE WE HAVE A VOICE VOTE ON THIS AMENDMENT. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. OKAY. THE AYES HAVE IT. THE AMENDMENT HAS BEEN ADOPTED. SO NOW WE HAVE THE AMENDED ORDINANCE IN FRONT OF US. ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ABOUT THE AMENDED ORDINANCE? OKAY. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRES A ROLL CALL VOTE.

CHERYL, PLEASE OPEN THE ROLL OPEN. COMMITTEE MEMBER. PARRISH. RIGHT. NO, THIS VOTE IS RIGHT TO SEND IT BACK. RIGHT. IS THAT THE. NO. THIS THIS IS THE AMENDMENT TO THAT IS BASICALLY AN OVERTURNING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISION WAS APPROVED THAT THAT THAT WAS INTRODUCED BY COUNCILMAN PIAGENTINI WAS APPROVED AND THIS WOULD BE APPROVING THE AMENDMENT. BASICALLY THE AMENDED VERSION, THE AMENDED VERSION OF THE ORDINANCE. OKAY.

MY APOLOGIES. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER PIAGENTINI. YES. THANK YOU. CHAIR. YOU HAVE SEVEN YES VOTES AND ONE PRESENT. YES. VOTES WILL BE SENT TO OLD BUSINESS. SO YOU MIGHT NOT.

WITH SEVEN YES SEVEN YES VOTES AND ONE PRESENT VOTE. THIS WILL BE SENT TO THE OLD BUSINESS ON

[3. O-177-25     AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE DESIGNATION OF THE CHICKASAW NEIGHBORHOOD AS A LOCAL PRESERVATION DISTRICT AND THE ADDITION OF CHICKASAW TO THE LIST OF LOCAL PRESERVATION DISTRICTS IN LMCO § 32.252(A) (CASE NO. 24LANDMARK0005). 9/2/25 Planning and Zoning Committee Tabled 8/19/25 Planning and Zoning Committee Held 8/5/25 Planning and Zoning Committee Held  Action Required By January 31, 2026 Sponsors: Andrew Owen (D-9), Tammy Hawkins (D-1), Donna L. Purvis (D-5)]

YOU CAN SEE THOSE BOUNDARIES ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE. IT IS ROUGHLY BOUNDED BY BROADWAY ON THE NORTH, THE OHIO RIVER TO THE WEST, VARIOUS STREETS ALONG THE SOUTH END, INCLUDING WINDROSE, FORTSON AND COLMAR DRIVE. AND THEN LOUIS COLEMAN JUNIOR DRIVE TO THE EAST. SO THIS WAS DESIGNATED AS A NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT IN 2020 FOR THE NATIONAL REGISTER DESIGNATION. DOES NOT PLACE ANY RESTRICTIONS OR PROTECTIONS ON A PROPERTY, SO THE CHICKASAW NEIGHBORHOOD FEDERATION SPEARHEADED A CAMPAIGN FOR THIS DISTRICT. THEY SPENT A YEAR AND A HALF ON NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, CANVASING, AND VARIOUS ACTIVITIES TO TRY TO GET AS MUCH INFORMATION OUT TO THEIR NEIGHBORS AS POSSIBLE, AND THEY DO CURRENTLY HAVE PLANS FOR MORE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS ON GUIDELINES, TAX CREDITS, PROPERTY MAINTENANCE, ETC.

ANYTHING THAT DEALS WITH PROPERTY MOVING FORWARD AS WELL. THE PRESERVATION DISTRICT STATUS DOES PUT A DESIGN REVIEW IN PLACE FOR EXTERIOR CHANGES. HOW THE DISTRICT WILL BE REGULATED WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD AFTER DESIGNATION. SO RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST THE QUESTION OF DESIGNATION. THE WORK THAT HAPPENS NEXT ARE THOSE GUIDELINES AND THOSE THRESHOLDS FOR REVIEW. AND ULTIMATELY THE DESIGN GUIDELINES WILL BE REVIEWED BY OUR LANDMARKS COMMISSION AND OF COURSE ALSO REVIEWED BY METRO COUNCIL. THE PETITION WAS RECEIVED ON AUGUST 1ST OF LAST YEAR. IT CONTAINED 200 PLUS SIGNATURES OF

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WITHIN 60 DAYS OF THAT, THE COMMISSION APPOINTS AN ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE AND THEY ADOPT INTERIM DESIGN GUIDELINES. BUT THERE'S NO TIMELINE FOR HOW LONG THE NEIGHBORHOOD CAN TAKE TO WRITE THEIR OWN. I UNDERSTAND THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOES WANT TO WRITE THEIR OWN GUIDELINES WITH A LOT OF PUBLIC INPUT. AND AS I MENTIONED, ONCE THEY'RE READY, THEY WOULD BE REVIEWED BY THE LANDMARKS COMMISSION AND OF COURSE, METRO COUNCIL. AND THEN THERE WILL CONTINUE TO BE ROLLOUT EDUCATION AND COMMUNICATION FOR OWNERS AND RESIDENTS ON WHAT THIS MEANS AND WHAT ANY RULES AND REGULATIONS WOULD BE IN PLACE.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME. THANK YOU. SAVANNAH, I HAVE AT THE TOP OF MY QUEUE, I HAVE COUNCILWOMAN PURVIS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HOLDING THIS. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THE RESIDENTS IN THE CHICKASAW AREA HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON THIS. WE HAD OUR LAST PUBLIC MEETING A FEW WEEKS AGO, SO IT GAVE A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME OUT AND LEARN ABOUT THIS. I DIDN'T HAVE ANY NEGATIVE COMMENTS ABOUT IT. IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYONE, ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS AND THE CHICKASAW AREA ARE IN FAVOR OF THIS. SO FOR THAT, I WOULD APPROVE AND ASK FOR EVERYBODY TO SUPPORT THIS VOTING. YES. THANK YOU. NEXT TO COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS, THANK YOU. UNLIKE MY COLLEAGUE, I DON'T APPRECIATE IT BEING HELD BECAUSE THIS IS MY DISTRICT AS WELL. I SERVE A HUGE PART OF CHICKASAW AND I WAS UNAWARE OF THAT. AND TIME IS THE ONLY THING THAT YOU DON'T GET TO GET BACK. SO, RESPECTFULLY, I'M GOING TO ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO PLEASE GET THIS OUT OF COMMITTEE. IT'S BEEN HELD LONG ENOUGH. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE QUEUE. SO THIS IS AN ORDINANCE REQUIRING A ROLL CALL VOTE, SHERIFF NELSON. COUNCILMEMBER PARRISH. RIGHT.

YES. THANK YOU. CHAIR. ORANGE. YOU HAVE SEVEN YES VOTES AS A UNANIMOUS. IS THAT UNANIMOUS? WOULD YOU WOULD YOU LIKE THIS TO GO TO CONSENT OR DO YOU WANT IT TO GO ON ALL BUSINESS? YOU CAN LET'S PUT IT ON CONSENT CALENDAR. OKAY. THIS WILL BE SENT TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR ON THE NEXT METRO COUNCIL AGENDA. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER ISSUES THEY WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS BEFORE WE ADJOURN? I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON THE AGENDA, I WOULD, COUNCIL MEMBER HATCHER. YES, SIR. I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST AND I DON'T KNOW IF IF THERE WOULD BE CONSENSUS ON THIS OR NOT. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A HEARING DURING THIS COMMITTEE, MAYBE 30 MINUTES OR SO IN THE FUTURE AT YOUR AT YOUR PLEASURE, MR. CHAIR, WHERE WE TALK ABOUT TWO THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY. ONE IS. THE PRESERVATION DISTRICTS OR THE SPECIAL. DISTRICTS, I GUESS YOU CALL IT THAT, THAT ARE ACROSS THE THE CITY, LIKE IF CHICKASAW, LIKE WE JUST DID WITH CHICKASAW, HOW MANY THERE ARE AND THE HISTORY OF THEM AND HOW WE CAN HAVE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS APPLY FOR THEM. JUST SOME OF THE BASICS, IF YOU DON'T MIND. AND THE OTHER ONE IS, I FORGOT WHAT THE OTHER ONE IS. IT'LL COME BACK TO ME NEXT TIME, BUT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE A REQUEST ON THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, THE THE WHOLE OH, HERE, HERE'S WHAT IT WAS. I'D LIKE TO HAVE IN THE FUTURE A HEARING OR JUST SOME QUESTIONS ANSWERED IN A PUBLIC FORUM BECAUSE IT BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IT COMES UP CONSIDERABLY THAT. THERE'S OH THERE THERE'S A SHORTAGE OF HOUSING NOW, I KNOW THERE IS A SHORTAGE OF HOUSING. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HAVE SOMEBODY COME AND EXPLAIN WHAT THE FORMULA IS FOR THAT. OR ARE WE MAKING ANY PROGRESS ON THAT SHORTAGE? HOW MUCH UNDOCUMENTED FOLKS IN THE AREA. BECAUSE LAST I'VE HEARD, THERE'S 55,000 UNDOCUMENTED FOLKS IN KENTUCKY. AND A BIG PORTION OF THAT WOULD BE IN LOUISVILLE METRO AREA. AND HOW MUCH THAT'S AFFECTING THIS SHORTAGE NUMBER. AND JUST HAVE

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AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE THE BACKGROUND ON THAT. I KNOW I WAS ON A HOUSING SHORTAGE TASKFORCE IN FRANKFORT AS MY AS MY LAST DUTIES WERE THERE. AND A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS JUST WOULDN'T BE ANSWERED OR AVOIDED. AND I THINK IT'S JUST TIME TO HAVE A FRANK DISCUSSION ON THAT.

IF, IF, IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER THAT IN THE FUTURE, I'D APPRECIATE IT. THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY WE CAN'T CAN'T ADDRESS THAT. I THINK IN ADDITION TO THE PRESERVATION DISTRICTS, YOU PROBABLY WANT TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF AN OUTLINE ON THE OVERLAY DISTRICTS AS WELL, BECAUSE THOSE ARE KIND OF SPECIAL DISTRICTS THAT AFFECT THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. YES. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? MR. PRESIDENT, I'M SORRY IF I MIGHT MAKE A SUGGESTION. YEAH, WE MIGHT ROLL NEIGHBORHOOD PLANS INTO THERE TOO. THOSE ARE KIND OF THE THREE BIG. YOU KNOW, SQUISHY DOCUMENTS WE MESSED WITH. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DRAW THE CLEAR LINES BETWEEN THEM, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL. MR. PRESIDENT, I SECOND THAT AS WE ARE GETTING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN TOGETHER BECAUSE WE HAVE THE PLANS, HOW WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW THEM. YES. THANK YOU. TRAVIS, YOU TOOK THE WORDS OUT OF MY MOUTH. OKAY.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE ALL RIGHT. WITH NO FURTHER BUSINESS IN FRONT OF US, WE ARE

[Adjournment Note: Agendas are followed at the discretion of the Chair. While an item may be listed, it does not mean all items will be heard and/or acted upon by the Committee.]