[1. O-212-25 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 176, SERIES 2022, RELATING TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2022-2023 CAPITAL BUDGET, ORDINANCE NO. 084, SERIES 2022, RELATING TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2022-2023 CAPITAL BUDGET, ORDINANCE NO. 080, SERIES 2023, RELATING TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2023-2024 CAPITAL BUDGET, ORDINANCE NO. 091, SERIES 2025, RELATING TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2025-2026 OPERATING BUDGET, AND ORDINANCE NO. 092, SERIES 2025, RELATING TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2025-2026 CAPITAL BUDGET, BY TRANSFERRING FUNDS BETWEEN PROJECTS AND ESTABLISHING NEW PROJECTS. Action Required By: February 28, 2025 Sponsors: Paula McCraney (I-7) ]

AMDINGRDINCE NUMR 17 RIES RELG HE YEAR 2022 2023. CAPITAL BUDGET ORDINANCE 80 SERIES 2023 RELATING TO FISCAL YEAR 2023 2024. CAPITAL BUDGET ORDINANCE NUMBER 91, SERIES 20 2025 RELATING TO FISCAL YEAR 2025 2026 OPERATING BUDGET AND ORDINANCE NUMBER 92, SERIES TWO 2025 RELATING TO FISCAL YEAR 2025 2026 CAPITAL BUDGET BY TRANSFERRING FUNDS BETWEEN PROJECTS AND ESTABLISHING NEW PROJECTS, IT IS PROPERLY BEFORE US. THIS IS BEFORE US. JUST A VERY BRIEF. THIS IS BEFORE US. THERE WAS A DECISION MADE DURING THE BUDGET CYCLE TO TAKE CARE OF SOME INTERSECTION WORK. AS A RESULT OF ALL OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE VETERANS HOSPITAL. AND WE WE CAME TO UNDERSTAND THAT SOME OF WHAT WE DID OVERLAPPED WITH WHAT THE STATE WAS DOING. AND SO THERE HAD TO BE SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW TO RETHINK THIS. MUCH OF IT WAS HAPPENING IN COUNCILWOMAN MCRANEY'S DISTRICT.

AND SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO IT, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND AND IF I MESS THAT UP, PLEASE MAKE ANY CORRECTIONS. OKAY. THANK YOU. I WANT TO FIRST START OFF BY THANKING BETH FOR ALL OF HER WORK AND GETTING THIS ON THE AGENDA AND AND OUTLINE WITH PUBLIC WORKS. WHAT YOU ARE SEEING IS AN ALL OUT EFFORT FROM DAY ONE WHEN I WAS ELECTED TO SOCK AWAY MONIES TO WIDEN HER LANE. THAT'S THE BULK OF THIS MONEY. AND AS WE WERE PUTTING MONIES AWAY, WE WERE HOPING THAT THE STATE WOULD MATCH IT SO THAT THEY COULD WIDEN THE ROAD. WE ONLY DISCOVERED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO OR LAST MONTH THAT THE STATE HAS GOTTEN SOME FEDERAL DOLLARS, AND THEY DON'T NEED OUR FUNDING ON A LOCAL LEVEL, SO THAT WHILE THAT WAS STRANGE NEWS, IT WAS EXCITING NEWS BECAUSE NOW I'M ABLE TO REDIRECT THOSE FUNDS TO OTHER PROJECTS IN DISTRICT SEVEN TO MAKE OTHER THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T THINK WERE GOING TO EVER HAPPEN POSSIBLE. AND AND THAT INCLUDES PARK PARTNERING WITH SOME OF THE SUBURBAN CITIES TO DO SOME INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS LIKE PAVING AND SIDEWALKS, AND TO HELP BEAUTIFY AND PUT RESTROOMS IN SOME PARKS. SO THAT'S THE BULK OF THE MONEY.

AND I DO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS TRANSFER. THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT IT IS, A TRANSFER OF FUNDING FROM DISTRICT SEVEN, ONE MAJOR PROJECT, TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT MUST BE DONE IN DISTRICT SEVEN. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS COLLEAGUES? COUNCILMAN OWEN. THAT THAT IS SUPER EXCITING NEWS. ACTUALLY, I'M REALLY PLEASED FOR YOU. CAN YOU JUST GIVE US A COUPLE OF. YOU KNOW, I DON'T NEED TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THEM, BUT GIVE ME A COUPLE OF THE PROJECTS THAT YOU'RE GETTING TO DO NOW THAT YOU DIDN'T THINK YOU WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO WELL, A LOT OF SIDEWALK PROJECTS IN GREYMOOR. FIRST OF ALL, YOU ALL KNOW THAT I HAVE 19 SUBURBAN CITIES IN MY DISTRICT, SO FINDING PROJECTS TO DO ON A LOCAL LEVEL IN METRO GOVERNMENT IS VERY DIFFICULT BECAUSE THOSE SUBURBAN CITIES DO A GREAT JOB OF TAKING CARE OF THEIR OWN. BUT THROUGH PARTNERSHIPS, I'M ABLE TO DO WAY MORE PROJECTS THAN THEY WOULD EVER BE ABLE TO TO AFFORD. SO WE'RE IN GRAYMOOR-DEVONDALE. WE HAVE LOTS AND LOTS OF SIDEWALK ISSUES, AND I'LL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THOSE IN THE CITY OF SAINT MATTHEWS, WHICH IS REALLY NOT EVEN IN SAINT MATTHEWS, BUT IT IS A PART OF SAINT MATTHEWS.

IT'S A PARK. WARWICK PARK, THEY JUST PUT IN SOME PICKLEBALL, PICKLEBALL COURTS, MACHINES, TOS

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NOT THE PART THAT I WILL BE PARTICIPATING IN. I WILL BE PARTICIPATING IN BUILDING THEIR RESTROOMS OUT AND HELPING WITH THEIR SHELTER. AND SO THAT AND PAVING PROJECTS. I JUST TALKED WITH PUBLIC WORKS THE OTHER DAY ABOUT PAVING HALF OF A CITY, HALF OF A IN IN, IN IN A SMALLER CITY, SAY MORELAND, PAVING HALF OF THE STREET AND LEAVING THE OTHER HALF UNDONE BECAUSE IT WAS A PART OF A SUBURBAN CITY. AND SO THEY DON'T DO THE WHOLE STREET. SO NOW I'M ABLE TO PARTNER WITH THAT CITY. THEY MIGHT CAN'T AFFORD TO GET IT PAID WHEN WE WERE ABLE TO PAVE IT. SO NOW WE CAN DO THAT AND HAVE THE WHOLE STREET BE PAVED, BECAUSE WHEN OF COURSE, CONSTITUENTS WALK OUT THEIR DOOR, THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT PART OF IT IS LOUISVILLE METRO. PART OF IT IS A SUBURBAN CITY. AND WHY DOES ONE PART OF THEIR STREET LOOK DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER? SO I'M EXCITED TO. AND THEN THERE'S HUBBARD. THERE'S A HUBBARD'S LANE RECYCLE CENTER. AND I, I PUT A LOT OF MONEY IN THAT RECYCLING CENTER. BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME MORE BEAUTIFICATION IN THAT AREA AND PUTTING PAINTING AND, AND SOME SIGNAGE THAT'S GOING TO MAKE THAT AREA LOOK GOOD. IT'S NEXT TO COACH GATE AND IT'S IT'S IN WINDY HILLS. AND IT NEEDS TO BE AS BEAUTIFUL AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO IT'S NICE DISTRICT ADJACENT. SO I'M REALLY PLEASED ABOUT THAT. YEAH, THAT'S TRUE TOO. IF I RUN OUT OF FUNDING, I'LL CALL YOU. SEE NO ONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE. THIS IS MR. CHAIR. I HAD A COMMENT, COUNCILMAN PERRY. I'M NOT. I'M NOT IN QUEUE. THAT'S FINE. NO, IT'S FINE, I, I JUST WANT TO JUST SAY THIS IS AMAZING AND JUST TELL YOU I'M HAPPY FOR YOU AND THE DISTRICT AND THE CONSTITUENTS. AND ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS TOLD BY A PREVIOUS COUNCIL PERSON WHEN I CAME INTO OFFICE WAS LIKE, DON'T WORRY ABOUT SHIVELY. YOU CAN'T DO NOTHING. AND WE'VE BEEN SEEING WAYS THAT WE COULD WORK TOGETHER AND PARTNER ON THINGS THAT MATTER TO OUR CONSTITUENTS BECAUSE, AS YOU SAY, WHEN THEY COME OUT THE DOOR, THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TECHNICAL LINES.

AND WE HAVE A LOT OF UNINCORPORATED AREAS, AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO COME TOGETHER. AND THANKS TO THE BUDGET PROCESS, WE'RE GOING TO SEE THIS SHIVELY SPLASH PAD. AND WE'RE SEEING MORE ACTIVITY FROM SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS AND HOMEOWNERS AND PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST LIKE, OKAY, WE DO MATTER TOO. SO I THINK WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS IS GREAT. AND I KNOW OTHER COUNCIL PEOPLE DO IT IN THIS WAY, BUT JUST HEARING THE WAY YOU'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT, YOU TALK ABOUT IT. I KNOW THAT MEANS A LOT TO YOU AND YOUR CONSTITUENTS. SO I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU I'M HAPPY FOR YOU. THANK YOU ALL. I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE COMMENT. IT'S MORE EXCITING THAN YOU ALL CAN IMAGINE, BECAUSE WHEN I STARTED, THERE WERE NO FUNDS IN MY ACCOUNT. I MEAN, IT WAS JUST DWINDLED DOWN TO NOTHING. AND SO, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, I THINK IT WAS A YEAR LATER WE MADE THE RULE THAT YOU HAVE TO KEEP A CERTAIN AMOUNT IN THERE FOR THE INCOMING COUNCIL PERSON. SO THIS TO HAVE THIS, TO BE ABLE TO JUST FREELY DO SOME THINGS AND MAKE AN IMPACT IN THE IN THE DISTRICT JUST WARMS MY HEART. AND SO I'M EXCITED AND I THANK YOU ALL, ESPECIALLY COUNCILMAN PIAGENTINI, FOR NOT ASKING QUESTIONS. AND NOW SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE. CALLS FOR ROLL CALL VOTE. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE OPEN THE VOTING. VICE CHAIR. WINKLER. YES. COUNCILWOMAN. PARIS, RIGHT. YES.

HOLD ON ONE SECOND. OKAY, I JUST OKAY. OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN PARKER. NEVER MIND. YOU'RE IN THERE. I'M SORRY. COUNCILMAN HUDSON. YES. COUNCILWOMAN MCCRANEY. YES. OKAY. CHAIR CRAMER, YOU HAVE TEN YES VOTES. THANK YOU. WITH UNANIMOUS SUPPORT, THAT WILL GO TO THE

[2. O-213-25 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 091, SERIES 2025, RELATING TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2025-2026 OPERATING BUDGET, BY TRANSFERRING $40,000 FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUND (DISTRICT 15) TO THE LOUISVILLE METRO COUNCIL GENERAL OPERATIONS (DISTRICT 15). Action Required By: February 28, 2025 Sponsors: Jennifer Chappell (D-15) ]

CONSENT CALENDAR. ITEM NUMBER TWO IS AN ORDINANCE TWO 1325. IT'S AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 91, SERIES 2025 RELATING TO FISCAL YEAR 2025 2026 OPERATING BUDGET BY TRANSFERRING $40,000 FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUND DISTRICT 15 TO LOUISVILLE METRO COUNCIL GENERAL OPERATIONS DISTRICT 15 MOTION SECOND PROPERLY BEFORE US. IS THERE SOMEONE HERE TO SPEAK TO THIS? LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET COUNCIL. WELL, I'D LIKE TO. YEAH.

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SOMEBODY. UNLESS. UNLESS SHE'S SPOKEN TO SOMEONE. I'LL MOVE THIS TO THE NEXT ITEM SO SHE HAS TIME TO COME IN. SO WE'LL JUST. OH, AS I SAY. SO ARE WE AWARE OF IT? YEAH. IF SO, THE TABLE. WELL, ACTUALLY, IF YOU DON'T MIND, COUNCILMAN, WE CAN TAKE A MOTION IF YOU LIKE. BUT THE FINANCIAL DIRECTOR DID WORK WITH HER ON THIS. AND SO I'M GOING TO ASK FOR SOME BACKGROUND. I WOULD I WITHDRAW. THANK YOU. YES. MISS STEINBERG THAT STEINBERG WE I DID WORK WITH THE DISTRICT. THEY WANT TO MOVE 40,000 OF THEIR MDF FUNDS TO THEIR COST CENTER TO BE USED FOR THEIR PERSONNEL COSTS THROUGHOUT JUNE 30TH OF 2026, AND ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT. OKAY, SO SHE'S SHE HAS AN EXTRA. SHE HAS EXTRA FOLKS WORKING WITH HER IN THE OFFICE. THAT'S CORRECT. PART TIME CAPACITY. GREAT. ANYONE ELSE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? SEEING NONE. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE CALLING FOR A ROLL CALL. VOTE. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE OPEN THE VOTING. VICE CHAIR. WINKLER. YES. COUNCILWOMAN. PARIS, RIGHT. YES. COUNCILMAN. MCCRANIE. YES.

COUNCILMAN. HUDSON? YES. YES. THANK YOU. CHAIR CRAMER. YOU HAVE TEN YES VOTES. THANK YOU

[3. O-217-25 AN ORDINANCE CONCERNING THE LEVY OF TAXES WITHIN THE LOUISVILLE/JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT AND THE LOUISVILLE URBAN SERVICES DISTRICT FOR FISCAL YEAR ENDING JUNE 30, 2026. Action Required By: February 28, 2025 Sponsors: Kevin Kramer (R-11), Markus Winkler (D-17)]

AGAIN WITH UNANIMOUS SUPPORT. THAT GOES TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. ITEM NUMBER THREE IS ORDINANCE TWO 1725. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE CONCERNING THE LEVY OF TAXES WITHIN THE LOUISVILLE JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT AND THE LOUISVILLE URBAN SERVICE DISTRICT FOR FISCAL YEAR ENDING JUNE 30TH, 2026. PROPERLY BEFORE US EVERY YEAR, WHEN WE CALCULATE WHAT THE BUDGET NEEDS ARE GOING TO BE, WE LOOKED AT WHAT WE THINK THE TAX REVENUE WILL BE, AND WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL THAT WE DON'T GO OVER A CERTAIN LEVEL, OTHERWISE IT REQUIRES A VOTE.

THE MAYOR'S OFFICE HAS DETERMINED THIS IS THE NUMBER WE NEED. SO, MISS DUNN, IF YOU'LL INTRODUCE YOURSELF, I'LL LET YOU EXPLAIN IT FURTHER. SURE. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING.

I'M ANGELA DUNN, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. THE ORDINANCE YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU ESTABLISHES THE PROPERTY TAX RATES FOR BOTH REAL AND PERSONAL PROPERTY. THE PROPOSED RATES FOR METRO REPRESENTS A DECREASE FROM LAST YEAR. WHILE THE URBAN SERVICES DISTRICT RATES WILL REMAIN THE SAME. THIS IS IN KEEPING WITH THE FY 26 BUDGET THAT WAS INTRODUCED AND ADOPTED THIS PAST APRIL. IN JUNE, I'LL KIND OF I'LL GIVE YOU A SUMMARY OF SOME NUMBERS HERE. THE METRO AREA REAL PROPERTY TAX RATE IS PROPOSED TO BE 11.8 CENTS PER $100 OF ASSESSED VALUE, WHICH IS GREATER THAN THE NEWLY DEFINED COMPENSATING RATE OF 11.4 CENTS AND LESS THAN LAST YEAR'S ADOPTED RATE OF 12.10 CENTS PER $100 OF ASSESSED VALUE. THE URBAN SERVICES DISTRICT REAL PROPERTY TAX RATE IS REMAINING THE SAME AT 31.9 $0.00 PER $100 OF ASSESSED VALUE, WHICH IS GREATER THAN THE NEWLY DEFINED COMPENSATING RATE OF 30.7 $0.00.

THE PROPOSED REAL PROPERTY TAX RATE FOR FY 26 REPRESENT THE ALLOWABLE 4% REVENUE GROWTH ON THE EXISTING PROPERTY TAX BASE UNDER HOUSE BILL 44, AND ARE NOT SUBJECT TO A VOTER RECALL.

A NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING ON THE FY 26 PROPOSED PROPERTY TAX RATES WILL BE POSTED ON METRO LOUISVILLE'S WEBSITE IN ACCORDANCE WITH CRS 424 .15145. IN ACCORDANCE WITH CRS 132 .027, THE NOTICE WILL ANNOUNCE THAT THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED PROPERTY RATES AT 12 P.M. NOON ON THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 11TH IN ROOM 106 AT METRO HALL. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS A CHANCE FOR CITIZENS TO COMMENT ON THE PROPOSED RATES. JUST A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL HIGHLIGHTS. THE OVERALL REAL PROPERTY VALUATION FOR LOUISVILLE METRO WAS 99.4 BILLION, AN INCREASE OF 6.8 BILLION, OR 7.4%, FROM THE PRIOR YEAR. NET NEW PROPERTY ADDITIONS FOR LOUISVILLE METRO TOTALED 840 MILLION. THE FY 26 BUDGET THAT THE COUNCIL APPROVED PLANS FOR A COMBINED TOTAL OF 200,960,000, IN REAL AND PERSONAL PROPERTY TAXES.

EARLY ESTIMATES ARE THAT THIS TAX LEVY WILL LEAVE US LIKELY TO ACHIEVE THAT TOTAL IN AGGREGATE. WITH THESE RATES, THE AMOUNT OF FINAL ASSESSMENTS AFTER APPEALS, ALONG WITH THE ACTUAL PAYMENT RATE ONCE THE SHERIFF MAILS THE TAX BILLS THIS FALL, WILL ULTIMATELY DETERMINE OUR COLLECTIONS. THIS IS A MAJOR PIECE OF OUR PLANNED REVENUES FOR FY 26, AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT OF THE ORDINANCE. THANK YOU. I DON'T SEE ANYONE IN THE QUEUE.

COUNCILMAN WINKLER. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. AND ANDY, THANKS FOR BEING HERE. I KNOW THIS

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ORDINANCE DEALS WITH THE PROPERTY TAX RATES. DOES IT ALSO ADDRESS. AND I'M GOING BACK SEVERAL, SEVERAL YEARS. GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO COUNCILMAN HOLLANDER WHO RAISED THIS ISSUE MANY YEARS AGO. WE ALSO HAVE A PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX RATE, I BELIEVE. AND CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT RATE AND WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT RATE, WHETHER THAT'S ADDRESSED HERE AT ALL, ANYTHING ABOUT THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX RATE, I'M GOING TO LET AARON JACKSON ANSWER THAT FOR YOU.

AARON JACKSON WITH OMB, THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX RATES IN THE USD WILL BE FLAT FOR FY 26 AT 56.6 $0.00, AND 9 USD IS 16.6 $0.00. AND SO THE NON USD IS ALSO FLAT OR IS. YES, BOTH OF THEM ARE FLAT. I'M SORRY. OKAY. WHAT'S THE ALLOWABLE INCREASE ON. IS IT 4% ON THOSE AS WELL. YES THAT'S CORRECT OKAY. AND I'M NOT SUGGESTING I'M JUST CURIOUS AS WE SORT OF THINK ABOUT THE LONG TERM STRATEGY, CAN YOU SPEAK TO HOW THE ADMINISTRATION SEES THE MIX BETWEEN PROPERTY TAX RATES, PERSONAL PROPERTY TAXES? LIKE IS OUR FUNDING? WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE 4% ON, ON, ON PROPERTY TAXES AND LEAVE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAXES FLAT. OR CAN YOU JUST SPEAK TO THE STRATEGY FROM A REVENUE PERSPECTIVE AND REVENUE DIVERSIFICATION PERSPECTIVE? I MEAN, I THINK AT THIS TIME, YOU KNOW, THE STRATEGY IS, YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO STAY WITHIN THAT 4% ON THE THE PROPERTY TAX RATE AS FAR AS THE PERSONAL PROPERTY, LEAVING THE TAX RATE FLAT IS WE HAVEN'T SEEN A NEED TO CHANGE THAT. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IN THE FUTURE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED. BUT AT THIS TIME WE HAVEN'T SEEN A NEED TO TO DO THAT. AND LAST QUESTION, MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THE THE TOTAL REVENUE GENERATED ON THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX RATE IS RELATIVELY SMALL COMPARED TO THE PROPERTY TAX RATE. DO YOU HAVE THOSE NUMBERS, SORT OF THE RELATIVE SCALE OF THE TWO? I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE THOSE NUMBERS WITH US, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY GET THAT KIND OF.

YEAH, YEAH. IT JUST WAS KIND OF GOING OFF MEMORY. SO THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN OWEN. THANK YOU CHAIR I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT SOMETHING QUICKLY. AND THEN I HAVE A QUESTION FOLLOWING THAT. YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING THAT WE HELD THE THE PROPERTY TAXES FLAT FROM 2007 TO 2015 BECAUSE THE HOUSING MARKET WASN'T VERY GOOD, PROPERTIES WEREN'T APPRECIATING.

AND SO WE HELD EVERYTHING FLAT. AND THEN RECENTLY WE'VE BEEN ABLE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF APPRECIATION IN PROPERTY VALUES. AND SO IN 2021 THE THE RATE WAS 1322. IT CAME DOWN TO 1289 23, 1240 STAYED THE SAME IN 23 AND FOUR LAST YEAR WAS 1210. AND IT'S DROPPED TO 1180. SO I THINK IT'S JUST AN INTERESTING EXERCISE TO LOOK AT THAT RATE COMING DOWN AS OUR PROPERTY.

PROPERTY HAS APPRECIATED OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE MAKE THAT NOTE AND, AND KIND OF HIGHLIGHT THAT THE PART OF WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, WHERE I WASN'T SURE, DIDN'T FOLLOW. EXACTLY. YOU MENTIONED THE 1180 RATE, BUT YOU ALSO MENTIONED THE 1140 WAS ANOTHER RATE, AND THAT 1140, I WAS UNSURE OF HOW THAT FACTORED IN. THAT'S THE COMPENSATING RATE. OKAY. THE OTHER PIECE. YES. OKAY. OH I SEE, SO THAT'S THE RATE THAT PRODUCES THE SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUE FROM LAST YEAR. BUT BECAUSE WE CAN INCREASE 4% WE'RE AT 1180. THAT'S CORRECT. PERFECT. THANK YOU. I JUST DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT WAS WHAT THAT REFERENCE WAS. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN LINENGER. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. SORT OF. IN THE SAME VEIN, WHEN YOU SAY THAT THIS RATE IS LIKELY TO ACHIEVE OUR FUNDING NEEDS FOR THE CITY ON THE BUDGET, HOW CONFIDENT ARE WE IN THOSE NUMBERS? AND DO THE ANALYSIS INCLUDE THE POSSIBILITY THAT HOME PRICES MAY BE DROPPING, CONSIDERING THAT WE HAVE A HISTORIC NUMBER OF IMBALANCE BETWEEN BUYERS AND SELLERS RIGHT NOW IN THE MARKET? I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE VERY WE'RE VERY COMFORTABLE WITH WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW. YOU GOT TO CONSIDER WE'RE PRETTY EARLY INTO THE FISCAL YEAR. AND, YOU KNOW, THOSE TAX BILLS DON'T GO OUT UNTIL LATER IN THE FALL.

SO BASED ON WHAT WE SEE SO FAR THOUGH, WE'RE WE'RE VERY COMFORTABLE OKAY. THANK YOU.

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COUNCILMAN PIAGENTINI. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. SO THIS ACHIEVES BOTH FOR THE USD AND FOR GENERAL METRO, THE 4% INCREASE THAT WE THAT WE BUDGETED FOR. CORRECT. WITHIN THAT. YES. WITHIN THAT. YES. SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE WITHOUT GOING OVER ESSENTIALLY IT'S LIKE PRICE IS RIGHT. RIGHT. AND THEN AND FOR THE USD RATE THAT WILL GENERATE THE REVENUE THAT WE BUDGETED IN THE BUDGET IN ORDER TO PAY FOR THEIR DESIGNATED EXPENSES. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. I DIDN'T THINK YOU'D HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME EITHER. I SAID I DIDN'T THINK YOU'D HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME EITHER. CAN'T LET A TAX RATE. NO. AND ACTUALLY I, I, I WAS GOING TO MAKE A BIG DEAL ABOUT WHAT COUNCILMAN OWEN TALKED ABOUT. AND I THINK IT'S WONDERFUL. I MEAN, I, YOU KNOW, LOOK, I, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A WEIRD THING, THE WHOLE 4% AND PEOPLE DON'T GET IT. IT'S HARD TO EXPLAIN, QUITE FRANKLY, TO CONSTITUENTS, BUT I THINK IT ACTUALLY FORCES US TO BE VERY, VERY CAREFUL. AND THE REASON BEING, AND THERE'S BEEN AN EFFORT AT THE STATE TO LOOK AT THE IMPACT ON SENIOR CITIZENS. I MEAN, I TALK A LOT ABOUT THE FACT THAT THESE ARE THE LOWEST RATES THAT OUR CITIZENS HAVE EVER SEEN, CERTAINLY SINCE MERGED GOVERNMENT. AND YOU'D PROBABLY HAVE TO GO FAR BEYOND THAT TO FIND WHERE THE RATES HAVE BEEN AS LOW. BUT BECAUSE OF THE PROPERTY VALUE INCREASES, THEY DON'T SEE THAT. PLUS, WHAT I ALWAYS REMIND PEOPLE LOOK VERY, VERY CLOSELY AT YOUR BILL. YOU WILL FIND THAT METRO IS A TINY, TINY FRACTION OF WHAT YOU'RE TOTALLY GETTING BILLED, PARTICULARLY OUTSIDE THE US, A LITTLE DIFFERENT WITH THE USD, BUT WHEN YOU'RE OUTSIDE THE USD, WE ARE, YOU ARE. WE ARE A SMALL FRACTION OF WHAT YOU'RE GETTING BILLED RELATED, PARTICULARLY TO YOUR HOME OR YOUR OR YOUR PHYSICAL PROPERTY. IT IS THE MAJORITY OF IT. AND WHERE THEY'VE SEEN HUGE INCREASES ARE FROM OTHER TAXING DISTRICTS. I WON'T NAME NAMES. SO YEAH. SO I'M LIKE WHERE WE ARE BECAUSE MY CONCERN PARTICULARLY AROUND THIS IS ON SENIOR CITIZENS, FIXED INCOME FOLKS AND THE IMPACT THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN'T CONTROL THEIR PROPERTY VALUES INCREASING. AND, YOU KNOW, BUT THEIR INCOMES DON'T NECESSARILY INCREASE. SO APPRECIATE THAT WE'RE WALKING THAT TIGHTROPE. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE THANK YOU. JUST A QUICK CLARIFICATION TO COUNCILMAN NOLAN'S POINT ABOUT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS THEY REMAINED FLAT. THERE IS MORE TO THAT STORY THAN JUST A CHANGE IN THE HOUSING. IT'S THAT THERE WAS SOME THERE WERE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WERE GOING ON THAT THAT KEPT THOSE CHANGES FROM BEING REFLECTED. SO AGAIN, THE POINT IS THAT WE'RE SEEING THESE HISTORICALLY LOW RATES. BUT THE FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC, JUST SO EVERYBODY GETS IT, WE STILL COLLECTED 4% MORE IN PROPERTY TAX LAST YEAR THAN WE DID THE YEAR BEFORE. SO OUR REVENUE IS STILL GOING UP. IT'S GOING UP AT ABOUT 4% PER YEAR. SO WHILE THE RATES GOING DOWN FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, WE'RE STILL SPENDING 4% MORE EVERY YEAR. SO OKAY GREAT. NO ONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE. ALL RIGHT. THIS AGAIN IS AN ORDINANCE CALLING FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE MADAM CHAIR I MEAN MADAM CLERK. VICE CHAIR. WINKLER. YES. COUNCILWOMAN PIERCE. RIGHT. YES.

COUNCILWOMAN. PARKER. YES. CHAIR. KRAMER. YOU HAVE NINE YES VOTES. THANK YOU. AND ZERO NO VOTES. SO, AGAIN, THIS IS UNANIMOUS WITH THE FOLKS WHO ARE HERE. SO THIS WILL GO TO

[4. O-221-25 AN ORDINANCE CONCERNING THE PROPOSAL OF THE JEFFERSON COUNTY EXTENSION DISTRICT TO LEVY A TAX OF 0.1500 ON REAL PROPERTY, PERSONAL PROPERTY, AND MOTOR VEHICLE AND WATERCRAFT. Action Required By: February 28, 2025 Sponsors: Brent Ackerson (D-26) ]

THE CONSENT CALENDAR. ITEM FIVE IS GOING TO REMAIN HELD. SO ITEM FOUR WILL BE THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR TODAY. THIS IS ORDINANCE TWO 2125. IT IS AN ORDINANCE CONCERNING THE PROPOSAL OF THE JEFFERSON COUNTY EXTENSION DISTRICT TO LEVY A TAX OF 0.1500 ON REAL PROPERTY, PERSONAL PROPERTY, AND MOTOR VEHICLE AND WATERCRAFT IN MOTION. OKAY, IT'S PROPERLY BEFORE US. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE THAT PRESIDENT ACKERSON HAS PUT FORWARD. THERE HAS BEEN THERE HAVE BEEN A COUPLE CHANGES. THE THE NEEDLE CONTINUES TO MOVE EVER SO SLIGHTLY ON THIS. THE EXTENSION SERVICE HAS SENT A LETTER. IT'S INCLUDED IN THE PACKET TODAY SUGGESTING THAT THEY HAVE DECIDED, IN FACT, NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A TAX INCREASE. SO AS FAR AS THE EXTENSION SERVICE IS CONCERNED, THEY'VE PUT THE BRAKES ON THIS. AND SO IT KIND OF GOES AWAY IN CONVERSATIONS WITH WITH PRESIDENT ACKERSON'S OFFICE, HE WOULD STILL PREFER THAT WE MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THAT WE ARE NOT IN SUPPORT OF THIS. AND SO HE HAS AN ORDINANCE BEFORE US THAT WOULD DENY THE INCREASE. I SPOKE WITH THE OFFICER. THE CONVERSATIONS WERE HAD WITH THE OFFICE JUST RECENTLY. THEN THE THOUGHT PROCESS IS BECAUSE THE THE LETTER IS ALREADY IN THE RECORD. THEY'VE ALREADY WITHDRAWN. IT'S GOING TO GO AWAY AS AN ISSUE

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ANYWAY. BUT HE WANTS TO GO AHEAD AND GET THIS TAKEN CARE OF, JUST ON THE OFF CHANCE THAT SOMETHING WEIRD SHOULD HAPPEN AND WE FIND OURSELVES CAUGHT FLAT FOOTED. SO HE WOULD LIKE FOR US TO GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THIS, HAVE CONVERSATION, VOTE ON IT. AND THEN HIS INTENT IS AS LONG AS NOTHING SHIFTS AGAIN IN THE NEAR FUTURE, HE WILL BE PLANNING ON WITHDRAWING HIS SPONSORSHIP BETWEEN NOW AND THURSDAY. SO THIS SHOULD NOT SHOW UP ON OUR AGENDA THURSDAY NIGHT UNLESS SOMETHING BARRING SOMETHING ODD OCCURRING. GOOD POINT. YEAH, IT WELL, IT WILL SHOW UP THAT HE WITHDREW HIS SPONSORSHIP SO IT'LL BE ON THE AGENDA, BUT IT'LL BE ON THERE TO SAY THAT HE WITHDREW SPONSORSHIP. SO THERE WON'T BE A VOTE THURSDAY NIGHT BARRING SOMETHING. AGAIN ODD OCCURRING. THAT'S THE BEST. IT'S BEEN EXPLAINED TO ME. I BELIEVE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY MAY HAVE A THOUGHT. I'M SEEING A MICROPHONE MOVING, SO I'M GUESSING SO. IF YOU'LL INTRODUCE YOURSELVES NOW WANTS TO BE ON THE MICROPHONE AS OPPOSED TO WHEN SHE DOESN'T. MYSELF AND AMANDA BAKER WITH OUR OFFICE DID LOOKING AT THIS.

AND I THINK I UNDERSTAND YOU TO BE SAYING, EVERYONE WANTS THE RECORD TO BE CLEAR THAT IF COUNCIL ELECTS NOT TO VOTE THIS DOWN, IT IS SOLELY BECAUSE THE LETTER HAS COME SAYING THEY WANT TO WITHDRAW THE REQUEST FOR A TAX IN THE FIRST PLACE. IS THAT CORRECT? AND I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD CHARACTERIZE IT THAT WAY. I THINK WHAT I WOULD SAY ON THE RECORD IS THIS ORDINANCE IS BEFORE US. THIS ORDINANCE WOULD DENY THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO RAISE TAXES AT THIS TIME. AND THE COUNCIL TOOK A VOTE. THERE IS AN UNDERSTANDING AMONG COUNCIL MEMBERS WHEN THEY'RE CONSIDERING THIS THAT EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE VOTING ON IT TONIGHT, THEY MAY NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO VOTE ON IT AGAIN ON THURSDAY EVENING. AND FORGIVE ME, CHAIR, I MISSPOKE. I SHOULD HAVE SAID THAT WITHDRAWING SPONSORSHIP WOULD BE DONE JUST FOR THE SOLE REASON THAT THE LETTER HAS BEEN SUBMITTED, SAYING THEY'RE WITHDRAWING IT.

YES, MA'AM. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE BECAUSE THEY'VE WITHDRAWN, THERE'S REALLY NO NEED FOR US TO HAVE AN ORDINANCE ON THE BOOKS THAT REFLECTS THAT BECAUSE THEY'VE WITHDRAWN THE LETTER. AND SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE PRESIDENT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD IF THE LETTER IS IN PLACE, IT'S CAUTIONARY. AGAIN, I'M DOING THE BEST I CAN TO EXPLAIN WHAT I UNDERSTAND. IT'S CAUTIONARY ON HIS POINT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SANDS DON'T CONTINUE TO SHIFT, AND WE FIND OURSELVES WITHOUT ANY RECOURSE. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? AMANDA BAKER WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE? I WOULD ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT OUR OFFICE WOULD HAVE IS A SIMPLE WITHDRAWAL FROM THE RECORD. WITHOUT AN ACCURATE RECORD OF THE BASIS, WOULD POTENTIALLY CAUSE FURTHER ISSUES. SO OUR ONLY ADVICE WOULD BE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOTED ON THE RECORD, THE BASIS FOR THE ACTUAL WITHDRAWAL OF THE LEGISLATION. AND HE WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE TO DO THAT WHEN HE ACTUALLY MAKES THE WITHDRAWAL.

OKAY. RIGHT. YES. SO, OKAY, SO IT IS NOW IN THE PUBLIC RECORD. THAT IS IT IS EXPECTED WHEN HE DOES THIS, THAT HE WILL GIVE A REASON FOR HIS WITHDRAWAL. YES. GREAT. THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN PARKER. YES. THANK YOU. IN LIGHT OF THIS DISCUSSION, I AM GOING TO WITHDRAW MY REQUEST TO SPEAK. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN PIAGENTINI. AND I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY. NOT EVERYBODY. I DON'T THINK YOU SAID IT. NOT EVERYBODY MAY KNOW THIS, BUT THERE'S IT'S THIS IS EXTREMELY TIME SENSITIVE. THAT'S WHY WE WENT THROUGH THAT RIGMAROLE, THE LAST MEETING AND ALL THIS.

SO WHICH IS ALSO WHY HE'S I THINK PRESIDENT ACKERSON IS BEING A LITTLE CAREFUL ABOUT HOW THIS PROCEEDS FORWARD. THIS IS I MEAN, AT LEAST THE SEVEN YEARS I'VE BEEN AROUND THIS, THE FIRST TIME THIS HAS HAPPENED IN 27 YEARS, I DON'T SEE CHAIRMAN KRAMER SAYING THIS HAS HAPPENED AT ALL. SO WE'RE ON A BIT OF NEW TERRITORY, AND I THINK WE'RE ALL JUST TRYING TO BE CAREFUL, PARTICULARLY WITH THE TIME SENSITIVITY OF IT. SO BUT YEAH, SAME. I HAVE NO OTHER COMMENT. I'LL VOTE IN SUPPORT OF MOVING THIS FORWARD WITH THE EXPECTATION THAT AND JUST SO EVERYBODY'S AWARE TOO, AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC, BOTH THE ORIGINAL LETTER, THE ORDINANCE, BUT ALSO THE ORIGINAL LETTER TO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE IS ATTACHED TO THE RECORD. AND NOW THE LETTER FROM THE EXTENSION OFFICE OR THE JEFFERSON COUNTY EXTENSION DISTRICT BOARD SAYS THAT THEY DID SAY THEY VOTED ON SEPTEMBER THE 2ND. MIGHT WANT TO GET THOSE MEETING MINUTES AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS ON THE RECORD AS WELL. BUT GIVING PRESIDENT JACKSON THE OPPORTUNITY TO WITHDRAW HIMSELF THE NEXT MEETING MAKES SENSE. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN LINIGER.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE IN THE LETTER, THEY DO POINT OUT THAT

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JEFFERSON COUNTY IS ONE OF ONLY FOUR IN THE STATE THAT DO NOT HAVE A TAXING DISTRICT TO SUPPORT THEIR EXTENSION OFFICE. YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE HAD A LOT OF BUDGET CONCERNS IN THE PAST FEW YEARS, SUPPORT THAT'S BEEN WITHDRAWN FROM METRO GOVERNMENT. THEY'VE BEEN STRUGGLING TO DO THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT THAT THEY AND PEOPLE IN ALL OF OUR DISTRICTS HAVE BECOME ACCUSTOMED TO, SUCH AS COMMUNITY GARDENS. I KNOW IT'S A BIG DISTRICT, A BIG PROBLEM IN MY DISTRICT. YOU KNOW, THE IF WE ARE NOT GOING TO FUND THE WORK, THEN IT'S NOT A SURPRISE THAT THESE ENTITIES THAT DO HAVE THE POWER TO LEVY TAXING DISTRICTS ARE GOING TO START EXPLORING THAT. I'M THINKING ABOUT I'M THINKING ABOUT PARKS. WE REALLY NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT HOW WE ARE FUNDING IMPORTANT COMMUNITY SUPPORT IN METRO GOVERNMENT AND FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS. AND IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO MEET THOSE NEEDS IN THE BUDGET, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO START LOOKING FOR THESE TAXING DISTRICTS. YOU KNOW, I REALLY I REALLY CAN'T FAULT THEM FOR FOR REACHING AROUND AND TRYING TO FIND HOW THEY'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN THEIR SUPPORT OF THE COMMUNITY WHEN METRO GOVERNMENT FAILS TO DO SO. COUNCILMAN OWEN. THANK YOU. CHAIR. SO I'LL BE VOTING FOR FOR THIS AS WELL TO TO HAVE IT IN WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WILL LIKELY BE WITHDRAWN BY PRESIDENT ACKERSON. BUT I ALSO JUST WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT I WOULD BE AGAINST, YOU KNOW, THIS SORT OF THING HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE. SO IN THIS CASE, I'LL BE VOTING FOR IT IF IT CAME UP AGAIN. AND WE GOT TO DISCUSS THE CONTEXT AND WHAT IT MEANT AND ALL OF THE THE RAMIFICATIONS AND ALL THOSE THINGS, IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT I COULD, I COULD BE FOR GOING FORWARD. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN WOOLRICH. EASY FOR YOU TO SAY.

THANK YOU, CHAIR. YOU CAN ALWAYS SAY TO SAY WOOLRIDGE AS WELL. I AGREE WITH WHAT COUNCILMAN OWEN SAID. I WILL ALSO BE VOTING YES FOR THIS WITH THE LIKELIHOOD THAT IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, FALLING FORWARD, BUT WITH FUTURE DISCUSSIONS WITH OTHERS THAT MAY COME FORWARD. BUT AS COUNCILMAN PIAGENTINI SAID, WITH THE MINUTES, IF YOU DO LOOK AT THE LETTER FOR SEPTEMBER 2ND, IF YOU SCROLL THE SECOND PAGE, THE MINUTES ARE INCLUDED ON THERE AS WELL. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S ON THE RECORD. GREAT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN PIAGENTINI. AS MUCH AS IT PAINS ME, I WOULD LIKE TO. WELL, NO, JENNY IS RIGHT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY REASONING FOR DISAGREEING WITH MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE FROM DISTRICT SIX, AND THAT IS I. I THINK I'M MORE WITH COUNCILMAN OWEN ON THIS PARTICULAR THING IN THAT I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT NOT BEING SURPRISED, BUT THE WAY THE STATUTE IS CREATED, IT'S VERY, VERY CLEAR THAT THE GOVERNOR, IF THEY CALL GOVERNING OR ORGANIZING BODY, GOVERNING BODY, I THINK IS THE LANGUAGE IT USES, BUT AND IT REFERENCES THE CITY OR COUNTY, IN THIS CASE, IT'S METRO GOVERNMENT HAS OVERSIGHT OVER THIS. AND WHERE I WAS FRANKLY SHOCKED. I'M GLAD TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE EXTENSION BOARD ON WHAT THEIR FUNDING SOURCES WOULD LOOK LIKE. WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IF THERE'S A WAY TO TRANSITION TO SOMETHING ELSE AND TAKE AWAY WHAT WE'RE DOING AND THAT ALL BALANCES, AND IT'S NOT A BURDEN ON THE COMMUNITY AS FAR AS THAT CONVERSATION ALL DAY LONG. BUT I AM QUITE SHOCKED AND I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR WITH THEM, HOPEFULLY ON THE RECORD. AND I THINK THEY ARE GETTING THE MESSAGE. I AM BLOWN AWAY THAT EVEN PEOPLE WHO I KNOW THAT ARE STAUNCH SUPPORTERS OF THE EXTENSION OFFICE WERE SURPRISED WHEN THIS CAME ACROSS. LIKE THEY DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A HEADS UP. THEY WERE LIKE, WHAT JUST HAPPENED HERE? SO I DO AGREE. WHERE THERE'S AGREEMENT IS I THINK PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS ASKED AND DEBATED ABOUT HOW WE FUND THINGS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO BE CAUTIONED TO ALL OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS THAT IF THEY'RE NOT COMING TO AT LEAST THE 26 OF US UNDER THE MAYOR'S OFFICE IS SAYING, HEY, CAN WE TALK ABOUT THIS BEFORE IT COMES ACROSS YOUR DESK? DON'T BE SURPRISED WHEN WE JUST SAY NO. RIGHT. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THESE THINGS ARE COMPLICATED. WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE BENEFITS ARE. THE COSTS ARE LONG TERM PLANNING IS AND ALL THESE THINGS. SO. SO YEAH, I'M NOT SURPRISED. I SUPPOSE WE'RE NOT TOO MUCH DISAGREEMENT, BUT I AM SURPRISED THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE A CONVERSATION BEFORE THEY DID IT. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? MR. COUNCILMAN, WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT? I'M IN DC. THAT IS ARGUABLY A PLACE THAT IS GETTING NOT GETTING THE REPRESENTATION THEY DESERVE.

ESPECIALLY THEY ARE GETTING THE TAXES. SO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION. AND I TRY NOT TO SAY STUFF BECAUSE I KNOW SOMETIMES SOME OF THESE ISSUES YOU, SOME OF YOU ARE WORKING ON

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AND MORE PASSIONATE ABOUT, AND SOMETIMES WE JUST WANT TO SOUND SMART AND CONNECTED, BUT WE ARE NOT FUNDING A LOT OF THINGS. YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DON'T HAVE THE TAXES TO HELP PAY FOR THINGS, PEOPLE ARE SCRAMBLING AND FINDING WAYS THAT THEY CAN HELP PEOPLE. AND I REMEMBER WHEN THE EXTENSION BOARD WAS GOING THROUGH THE FUNDING ISSUES, AND WE WERE TRYING TO WORK TO GET THEM BACK IN THE BUDGET OR GET THEM SOME FUNDING, AND WE WORK TO DO THAT. I'VE WORKED WITH THEM A LOT, AND THEY DO MEANINGFUL WORK, AND IT'S RELATED TO CLIMATE CHANGE, FOOD JUSTICE AND SO MANY OTHER THINGS. AND SO PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS FIND A WORKAROUND TO TRY TO GET THOSE THINGS DONE, THAT WHAT THEY DID IS NOT ILLEGAL. THEY'RE ALLOWED TO FIGURE THAT OUT. LOTS OF PEOPLE BRING US LEGISLATION AND WE CAN CHOOSE TO CHAMPION IT OR NOT. I'M JUST I DIDN'T KNOW AS MUCH ABOUT THIS, BUT I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND FOLKS TRYING TO FIND A WORKAROUND TO GET THE FUNDING NEEDED TO BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE. I JUST HAVE TO AGREE THAT THESE THESE PROGRAMS ARE STRUGGLING AND THESE PROGRAMS ARE FILLING THE GAPS THAT ARE OUT THERE. AND SO IF THEY'RE THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THIS IS FRUSTRATING TO TO WATCH HAPPEN. AND I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN COME BACK TO THE TABLE AND FIGURE IT OUT, FIGURE OUT A BETTER WAY TO SUPPORT THEM, AS WELL AS TARC AND SOME OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, TOO MANY OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TO NAME HERE, BUT IT'S A LOT GOING ON. AND AND I, AS SOMEBODY THAT WORKS IN SERVICES AND ADVOCACY AND NONPROFIT WORK, I UNDERSTAND WHY THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT. AND I HOPE THAT WE WOULD HAVE COMPASSION AND TRY TO COME TOGETHER AND HAVE SOMETHING THAT REALLY BENEFITS THESE COMMUNITIES, BENEFITS THE ORGANIZATIONS THE WAY THAT WE KNOW IT DOES. SO I DON'T I DON'T THINK A NO VOTE IS GOING TO STOP WHAT'S HAPPENING TODAY. BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THAT I ACKNOWLEDGE THIS, AND IF IT'S GOING TO BE WITHDRAWN, THEN I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT I WOULD HOPE THAT WE CAN COME BACK TOGETHER. AND I WOULD LIKE TO BE INCLUDED IN A CONVERSATION ABOUT IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE THAT CALLS FOR A ROLL CALL. VOTE. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE OPEN THE VOTING. VICE CHAIR. WINKLER. YES. COUNCILMAN. PIERCE. RIGHT.

PRESIDENT. COUNCILMAN. PARKER. YES. CHAIR. CRAMER. YOU HAVE SEVEN YES VOTES, ONE NO VOTE AND ONE PRESENT VOTE. OKAY. WITH THE WITH THE VOTE STANDING, THIS WOULD GO TO OLD BUSINESS.

AND SO I'LL ASSIGN IT TO OLD BUSINESS. UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT WILL LIKELY CHANGE BETWEEN NOW AND THURSDAY IF NO ONE ELSE HAS ANYTHING FOR THE MEETING TODAY WE STAND WITHOUT

[Adjournment Note: Agendas are followed at the discretion of the Chair. While an item may be listed, it does not mean all items will be heard and/or acted upon by the Committee.]

OBJECTION. WE STAND ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

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