[00:25:53]
30S. I'M GOING TO DO HERE. I'M GOING TO DO NUMBER TWO. NUMBER TWO. OKAY GUYS, WE'RE READY TO
[00:26:25]
GO. THIS IS THE EQUITY, COMMUNITY AFFAIRS, HOUSING, HEALTH AND EDUCATION COMMITTEE.[00:26:31]
I AM THE CHAIR. COUNCILWOMAN BARBARA SHANKLIN VICE CHAIR IS STUART. I'M SORRY. IS[00:26:40]
COUNCILMAN STUART BENSON COUNCIL MEMBER? COUNCILWOMAN TAMMY HOPKINS IS HERE. COUNCIL[00:26:48]
WOMAN. DEAN SAMS IS HERE. COUNCILMAN. MARCUS WINK IS HERE. AND COUNCILWOMAN JENNY WARWICK.[00:26:59]
I ALWAYS SAY JENNY BOYD. OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO DO NUMBER TWO FIRST. FIRST, WE HAVE TO DO OUR LITTLE. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT WE DON'T HAVE TO. WE HAVE TO. OKAY. ITEM TWO AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 118.10 OF THE LOUISVILLE METRO CODE OF ORDINANCE REGARDING LOCAL FOOD PERMITS. READING. FULL MOTION. OKAY. WE HAVE SOMEONE HERE TO SPEAK. CAN YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF? CERTAINLY. THANK YOU. CONNIE MENDEL, CHIEF HEALTH STRATEGIST, LOUISVILLE METRO PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELLNESS. SO WE ARE ASKING FOR AMENDMENTS TO THE LOCAL FOOD PERMIT ORDINANCE.INITIALLY, WE'RE WHICH WAS CREATED IN 2018. WE'RE ASKING FOR A $5 PER PERMIT INCREASE.
THIS FEE HAS NOT INCREASED SINCE IT WAS CREATED IN 2018. AND THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, COVERING THE INCREASING COSTS TO DO BUSINESS. ALSO INCLUDED IN THIS, WE'D LIKE TO CREATE A LATE FEE ONCE SOMEONE IS PAST 60 DAYS. THE LATE FEE WAS WE JUST SPEND A LOT OF TIME AND RESOURCES TRYING TO COLLECT THOSE. A GOOD PERCENTAGE OF OUR I WOULD SAY THERE'S CLOSE TO A THOUSAND OF OUR PERMIT HOLDERS DON'T PAY UNTIL THEY'RE AT LEAST 30 DAYS OR EVEN FURTHER PAST THE GRACE PERIOD. SO AND THAT WOULD THE LATE FEE WOULD NOT COME INTO UNTIL 60 DAYS PAST DUE. SO AND THESE ARE ANNUAL PERMITS. AND I THINK THE LAST PART OF THIS IS THE ABILITY TO SUSPEND THE PERMIT TO DO TO, TO PREPARE FOOD AND OTHER THINGS, FOOD RELATED FOOD PREPARATION AND SALES. SO TO BE ABLE TO SUSPEND OR REVOKE THE PERMIT IF THEY'RE NOT IN FULL COMPLIANCE WITH OTHER LOCAL LAWS. SO IF THEY'RE NOT FOLLOWING WITHIN THEIR ABC, THEIR ALCOHOL PERMITS OR TOBACCO OR THE FIRE MARSHAL. SO THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE BASIC I THINK THESE ARE THESE ARE THE ONLY CHANGES THAT WE'RE MAKING. YEAH. AND JUST FOR YOU ALL KNOW, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS IN CHARGE OF ENFORCING FOOD SAFETY THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE OVER 4000 PERMITTED FACILITIES WITHIN METRO LOUISVILLE. SO THAT'S EVERYTHING FROM YOUR RESTAURANTS, YOUR DAYCARES AND DELIS TO THE FOOD TRUCKS, HOSPITALS, NURSING CENTERS, ANYWHERE THAT FOOD IS PREPARED AND SOLD. SO THE MAJORITY OF THOSE GET A MINIMUM OF TWO INSPECTIONS A YEAR. AS YOU KNOW, BEING A FOODIE CITY, WE OPEN A LOT OF NEW FACILITIES AND SEVERAL CLOSE, YOU KNOW, DOZENS CLOSE A YEAR. THAT'S TYPICAL BUSINESS. SO NOT ONLY DO THOSE TWO REGULAR INSPECTIONS, WE DO PRE-OPENING INSPECTIONS. WE DO EDUCATION, ON SITE TRAINING, AND A LOT OF WORK AROUND KEEPING LOUISVILLE'S FOOD SAFE.
[00:30:02]
HAVE WE GONE UP $5 ON THE PERMIT? YES. AND THEN WHAT IS THE LATE CHARGE PLUS $100 LATE CHARGE? OH, THAT'S A LOT. IT'S IT'S WE IT'S $100. SO HOPEFULLY THAT WILL MOTIVATE FOLKS TO PAY ON TIME. AND WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND A LOT OF RESOURCES AND PHONE CALLS AND VISITS TRYING TO COLLECT. OKAY. HOW MUCH IS THE PERMIT? IT VARIES FROM THE SIZE OF THE FACILITY TO WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING. DO YOU HAVE A LIST OF THE CURRENT? I THINK IT'S AS LITTLE AS $80.SORRY, I DON'T HAVE IT MEMORIZED. OKAY, SO SEASONAL CONFESSIONS ARE $30. SURE.
RETAIL FOOD MARKETS ARE 50. TEMPORARY FOOD SERVICES 80. LARGER FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS ARE 80. AND THEN THE COMBINATION ARE ALSO 80. SO THERE. SO THE PROPOSAL IS TO RAISE THOSE ALL UP $5 EACH OKAY. I'M ASKING BECAUSE WE JUST HAD A FESTIVAL AND I WAS YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THEM HAD TO GET FOOD PERMITS. AND SO HOW MUCH IS FOOD TRUCK AND THAT TYPE OF THING? A FOOD TRUCK WOULD FALL UNDER AN ESTABLISHED FOOD. SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE 80 AND JUST A REGULAR BOOTH WHERE PEOPLE SELLING FOOD LIKE THAT'S A TEMPORARY OR SEASONAL, AND THOSE ARE 30 OR CURRENTLY THEY'RE 25. THEY WOULD BE RAISED TO 30. OKAY. OKAY. I'M JUST ASKING BECAUSE I KNOW QUITE SOME TIME AGO I THOUGHT THEY WERE 30, BECAUSE I KNOW OUR VENDORS ALWAYS COME AND ASK US HOW MUCH IS TOO. SO IT'LL GO UP TO $30 INSTEAD OF 25. YES.
AND THE FOOD TRUCKS IS $80.80. AND IF THEY'RE LATE, IT'S $100. FINE. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? OKAY. COUNCIL. THE LAST TIME YOU GO SEE THE LAST. NOT THEY HAVE NOT BEEN INCREASED. THEY WERE CREATED IN 2018. RIGHT. SO IT'S BEEN A LONG WHILE. YES. AND YOU'RE ONLY TRYING TO GO UP $5, RIGHT. CORRECT. OKAY. YEAH. I SUPPORT THAT $100. BUT I DO JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. ADD TO THAT. SO IF ARE YOU GUYS BEHIND ON. THE VENDORS, THE VENDORS. BECAUSE I THINK LIKE WE HAD SOMEBODY THAT WAS OUT OF STATE. THAT WE HAD SOMEBODY THAT WAS OUT OF STATE THAT NORMALLY COMES. SHE'S BEEN DOING BARBARA'S EVENTS FOR FOR YEARS, AND I WANTED TO STEAL HER FROM COUNCILWOMAN SHANKLIN, AND SHE'S BEEN TRYING TO GO TO MY EVENTS. AND I DO BELIEVE THAT ABC TOLD HER TO JUST LOOK INTO GETTING A PERMANENT VENDORS PERMIT OR SOMETHING BECAUSE SHE WAS JUST GETTING A TEMPORARY ONE BECAUSE I DON'T THINK SHE LIVED, LIKE, RIGHT HERE. YEAH. AND NOW I THINK THAT SHE TRIED TO GET A PERMANENT ONE. SHE SAID SHE'S ON A WAITING LIST. ARE YOU GUYS BEHIND OR. NO. SO TO HAVE WHAT WE CALL A PERMANENT, YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A FOOD TRUCK. SHE DOES. OKAY. AND IT WOULD HAVE TO MEET THE STATE REQUIREMENTS FOR A FOOD TRUCK. SO THAT'S GOING TO INCLUDE, LIKE A HOLDING TANK FOR WASTE, A HOLDING TANK FOR CLEAN WATER TO DO WEAR WASHING AND OTHER THINGS, AND HAND WASHING. HAND WASHING AS WE KNOW, IS SUPER IMPORTANT. SO TYPICALLY WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE AN OPENING INSPECTION WITHIN A DAY OR TWO. OKAY. SO DO YOU. SO WOULD YOU ADVISE THEM TO DO A TEMPORARY PERMIT UNTIL YOU GET THE PERMANENT PERMIT DONE? BECAUSE I THINK SHE SAID THAT THEY TOLD HER LIKE 4 TO 4 TO 4 TO 6 WEEKS. AND THEN SHE HAS SOME EVENTS AND THEN SHE'S ALREADY HAD LINED UP. OKAY. SO THAT MAY BE THE PLAN REVIEW PROCESS. OKAY. GOTCHA. THAT I THINK THAT'S.
YEAH. AS FAR AS WHEN SOMEONE ASKS US TO DO AN OPENING INSPECTION, WHETHER IT'S A BRICK AND MORTAR OR A FOOD TRUCK, OUR FOLKS TYPICALLY WILL BE THERE NEXT DAY, IF NOT THE NEXT DAY, WITHIN TWO DAYS. I MEAN, WE KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO GET OPEN AND OPERATING, AND NOT EVERYONE PASSES THEIR OPENING INSPECTION. SO YOU GOTTA, YOU KNOW, PUT SOME TIME IN THERE TO MAKE CORRECTIONS OR, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION OR AT A HAND SINK IS AN EXAMPLE. WHAT DOES SHE GO INTO? SEASONAL BECAUSE SHE ONLY DOES IT, YOU KNOW, DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS AND STUFF. SO WOULDN'T IT BE YOU CAN DO IT EITHER WAY. AND BUT IT IS COST PROHIBITIVE IF YOU'RE GOING TO OPERATE MULTIPLE TIMES THROUGH THE SEASON TO GET A PERMANENT ANNUAL PERMIT VERSUS CONTINUING TO PURCHASE THOSE THREE DAY OR SEVEN DAY OR 14 DAY PERMITS, $30 OR SO. YOUR MICROPHONE. SORRY. SORRY. IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT COST EFFICIENT. RIGHT. $30
[00:35:06]
VERSUS AN $80 OFF A SEASONAL VERSUS A PERMANENT. HOW MUCH IS THE PERMANENT THAT THE. THAT WOULD BE THE $80 OR $80. THAT'S NOT BAD. I THINK THAT THAT'S WHY MISTER SEVERA HAD TOLD HER.JUST GO AHEAD AND JUST GET THE PERMANENT ONE. BUT I THINK WHEN SHE APPLIED FOR THE PERMANENT, SHE'S LIKE, OH MY GOD, I GOTTA WAIT NOW. SO I GET THESE OTHER EVENTS. SO THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE PLAN REVIEW PROCESS. AND IT BECAUSE THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS THE STATE REQUIRES FOR A FOOD TRUCK. SO IN ADDITION TO FIRE MARSHAL REQUIREMENTS, YOU NEED TO HAVE A HEAD SYSTEM. RIGHT. SHE'S GOT A SYSTEM SHE'S GOT. YEAH. SO AND WHAT HAPPENS AND WE'VE BEEN LUCKY. BUT IN OTHER COMMUNITIES THEY'VE HAD FIRES AND EXPLOSIONS RELATED TO MOBILE FOOD UNITS BECAUSE THEY'RE USING PROPANE TANKS AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT EXHAUST SYSTEMS AGAIN. SO A PLUMBING INSPECTION IS INVOLVED. SO IT'S NOT JUST OUR INSPECTION. RIGHT.
SO. WITH ABC, YOU KNOW, TELLING HER THAT SHE'D BE BETTER OFF GETTING A PERMANENT ONE, WHICH IS JUST $80 VERSUS EACH TIME GETTING A TEMPORARY PERMIT FOR 30. I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING IS, IS CAN A WHAT IS LIKE THE TRUE DIFFERENCE. RIGHT. BECAUSE IF SHE WAS TO APPLY FOR A $30 ONE, IT PROBABLY LOOKED LIKE THAT. SHE'S BEEN GETTING IT RIGHT. SO COULD SHE STILL DO IT? APPLY FOR THE TEMPORARY ONE WHILE SHE'S WAITING ON THE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I NEED TO LET HER KNOW THAT THEN. OKAY. AND THAT'S ALSO. THANK YOU. YES. AND SHE CAN OPERATE CITYWIDE, RIGHT? YEAH. I THINK TAMMY WENT THERE. COUNCILWOMAN HOPKINS, ONE THING TO BE COGNIZANT OF, IF SHE'S COMING FROM OUT OF TOWN AND YOU'RE GETTING THE PERMANENT LINING UP THE INSPECTION PROCESS. YES. OF WHEN TO BE INSPECTED WHILE SHE'S IN TOWN. IF SHE GOT ALL OF THAT TAKEN CARE OF BEFORE NEWBURGH DAY. AND SO NEWBURGH DAY WAS, WHAT, LAST WEEKEND BEFORE LAST? WELL, THAT'S WHERE I TALKED TO HER AT AT NEWBURGH DAY. AND SHE SAID THAT SHE GOT HER TEMPORARY PERMIT FOR YOURS. AND SHE SAID THAT FOR HER PERMANENT ONE, SHE HAD TO DO A DRAWING OR SOMETHING. THAT IS PART IT'S A PLAN SUBMITTAL. SHE SAID SHE HAS TO SUBMIT THE PLAN. AND IT WAS GOING TO BE 4 TO 6 WEEK PROCESS, WHETHER IT WAS THROUGH PLANNING, REVIEW, THEN GET TO YOU ALL AND THAT. SO BUT NOW I CAN GO BACK AND SAY, YOU KNOW, GO AHEAD AND APPLY FOR THE TEMPORARY ONE WHILE YOU'RE STILL WAITING ON YOUR PERMANENT ONE. YES. OKAY. SHE'S STILL GOT A LOT OF SUMMER LEFT. YEAH. AND THE FALL IS A GREAT TIME FOR FESTIVALS. YES. IF SHE'S SOLD OUT ON THEIR SHE'S A FUNNEL CAKE LADY. SO YOU KNOW SHE'S GOING TO SELL OUT. BUT SO OKAY, SINCE THIS JUST $5 AND IN YOUR RIGHT THE $100 WOULD MAKE THEM NOT BE LATE AND BE ABLE. BUT SOME OF THEM PROBABLY WOULD GET BEHIND. BUT I WE SPEND MORE THAN THAT IN TIME. AND STAFF TRYING TO COLLECT THE $30 IF YOU COULD IMAGINE. OH, I KNOW A LOT OF THEM COME IN AT NEWBURGH DAY AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE PERMITS. AND WE GOT TO TELL THEM, YOU GOT TO GET A PERMIT.
HOW MUCH IS IT? AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THEY MAKING DECENT MONEY, BUT THEY WORRY ABOUT THAT GETTING THEIR PERMIT. SO OKAY. SO ANYONE ELSE ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS. WELL WE READY TO VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR. OH WE ALREADY. SOUNDS GOOD. SORRY, SORRY. MADAM CHAIR, YOU HAVE 5 OR 6 YES VOTES. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE WILL SEND THIS TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. FOR THE NEXT NUMBER ONE. CHERYL, IF YOU DON'T MIND. NUMBER ONE, A RESOLUTION HONORING ELMER LUCILLE ALLEN BY DEDICATING THE CORNER OF FAIRLAND PLACE AND WINDROSE WAY AS ELMER LUCILLE ALLEN WAY IN HER HONOR. OKAY, OKAY. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, MISS PURVIS? I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS. I'M EXCITED ABOUT HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE THIS LADY. SHE IS THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN CHEMIST FOR BROWN-FORMAN. AND THAT WAS A TIME THAT AFRICAN AMERICANS WERE NOT RECOGNIZED FOR HAVING
[00:40:01]
THE TYPE OF SKILLS OR ACADEMICS. AND SO SHE IS A PILLAR IN THE COMMUNITY. AND I THINK IT'S TIME TO GIVE HER HER FLOWERS. SO I ASK THAT MY COLLEAGUES SUPPORT THIS AND APPROVE FOR HER TO BE RECOGNIZED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? HEARING NONE. WE WILL VOTE ON MR. BOYD. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. I THINK WE HAVE IT. OKAY. THIS WILL GO TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. OKAY. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON THE AGENDA, SO WE CAN.JUST EXCUSE THE COMMITTEE.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.