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AGENDA TODAY. WE DON'T NEED A QUORUM, BUT I AM JOINED IN CHAMBER BY COUNCILMAN KEVIN[Roll Call]
BRATCHER AND COUNCILMAN KEN HERNDON. EVERYBODY ONLINE. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE? NO. OKAY.ALRIGHT. WE HAVE ONE ITEM ON THE AGENDA TODAY. WE'RE JOINED BY PUBLIC WORKS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
[1. ID 25-0094 SAFE ROUTES – Jennifer Kern, Public Works]
JENNIFER KERN, AND I'LL HAND THE FLOOR OVER TO YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. AND I'M JOINED TODAY BY CLAIRE YATES, OUR VISION ZERO PROGRAM MANAGER. AND WE HAVE SOME OTHER MEMBERS OF STAFF HERE. CLAIRE IS GOING TO PRESENT ON UPDATES ABOUT SAFE ROUTES AND SPEED MANAGEMENT, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO THOSE. THANKS, JENNIFER. AND SINCE IT'S A SMALL GROUP TODAY, JUST INTERRUPT ME ON ANY SLIDE IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. AS YOU ALL MAY BE AWARE, VISION ZERO LOUISVILLE IS THE CITY'S TRANSPORTATION SAFETY INITIATIV,[00:20:02]
AND THE LONG RANGE VISION IS TO ELIMINATE TRAFFIC FATALITIES ON SURFACE STREETS BY 2050. IN 2022, LOUISVILLE METRO COUNCIL VOTED TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE IN SUPPORT OF THAT. SO IF ZERO IS OUR VISION, THEN A SAFE SYSTEM IS HOW WE GET THERE. SO THESE FIVE OVERLAPPING STRATEGIES SAFER ROADS, PEOPLE SPEEDS, VEHICLES AND POST-CRASH CARE THESE ARE DESIGNED THINK OF THEM KIND OF LIKE LAYERS OF SWISS CHEESE. THEY'RE DESIGNED TO OVERLAP, TO TRY TO MITIGATE THE MITIGATE THE HARM DONE WITH WITH A CRASH. HOPEFULLY THAT IT DOESN'T KILL ANYBODY. WHAT WAS.LIKE A CALL. WAS IT TRYING TO RECONNECT? YEAH. SO HOPEFULLY. METRO TV. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT ALARM IS? WE'RE CHECKING. THANK YOU.
YEP. OKAY. DOWN ALREADY? I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE. FOR.
WAITING FOR THE CHAT. YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, STRATEGIC. I KNOW THAT, OKAY? SECOND. SECTION. SO IF YOU WANT TO TALK. YEAH, YEAH, THAT'S MY QUESTION TODAY. SO I THINK SO. HIGHER LEVEL. I'M GOING TO SPEAK. ON THAT ONE. YEAH. YEAH. IS THAT. IT IS. WE DON'T KNOW WHO TO PUT ON THIS ON. THIS. IS THIS AN ALIEN INQUIRY IN A LANGUAGE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND? IT'S VERY INTERESTING FOR US TO KNOW, SINCE WE HAVE ALL THE. YEAH. NO. THAT'S FINE. YEAH. ARE WE SORRY FOR THE DISRUPTION. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. WELL, HOW ABOUT WE DO THAT? IS IT STILL RECORDING ON WEBEX, OR DID THAT PICK IT UP? A LITTLE BIT? YEAH. THE FIRST PART OF IT IS. YEAH. I ALWAYS LIKE TO START WITH THE SAME INTRO, JUST TO KIND OF LIKE, SET THE STAGE. YEAH. YEAH.
THANK YOU. OKAY. SORRY FOR THE INTERRUPTION. THAT'S FINE. THANK YOU. YOU CAN PROCEED WHEN YOU'RE READY. OKAY. YEAH. SO BEFORE WE DIVE INTO SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL, I'LL GIVE YOU ALL A QUICK UPDATE ON OUR SPEED MANAGEMENT PLAN. SO I MENTIONED THAT SAFER SPEEDS IS ONE OF THE FIVE OVERLAPPING STRATEGIES OF THE SAFE SYSTEM APPROACH. AND SO THEN AND ONE OF ONE OF THE MOST FREQUENT COMPLAINTS AS WELL IS SPEEDING EXCESSIVE SPEEDING. AND SO HOW DO WE INTEND TO TACKLE THAT.
WELL, WE RECENTLY COMPLETED A LOUISVILLE'S FIRST EVER SPEED MANAGEMENT PLAN TO TRY TO MANAGE
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SPEEDS THROUGH, YOU KNOW, POLICY, STREET DESIGN, EDUCATION, ENFORCEMENT, KIND OF AN ALL OF THE ABOVE STRATEGY. THIS GRAPHIC HERE IS IT'S A TRANSECT LOOKING AT WHAT SPEEDS WOULD BE APPROPRIATE GIVEN THE SURROUNDING LAND USE AND CONTEXT. RIGHT. SO THE SAME SPEED LIMIT FOR DOWNTOWN PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE APPROPRIATE OUT NEAR JEFFERSON MEMORIAL FOREST OR IN A SUBURBAN AREA. OKAY. CAN YOU EXPAND ON THAT? SURE. SO WHAT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT IS HOW DO WE SET AND EVALUATE SPEED LIMITS. AND HISTORICALLY, THE EXCLUSIVE WAY TO DO THAT WAS EVALUATING BASED ON THE 85TH PERCENTILE. SO YOU TAKE YOU TAKE A SPEED STUDY AND YOU SAY, OKAY, WELL ONLY 15% OF DRIVERS ARE ARE DRIVING FASTER THAN THAT. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT WE'LL GO WITH THAT. JUST JUST THE 85TH PERCENTILE. THAT THAT'S BEEN AROUND FOR SOME SAY 40 SINCE THE 40S. OTHERS SAY SINCE THE 1920S, KIND OF, YOU KNOW, VARIES ON THE HISTORY, BUT IT BASICALLY CAME INTO VOGUE IN, IN THE 60S, BUT A MORE MODERN WAY TO SET AND EVALUATE SPEED LIMITS ACROSS A COMMUNITY IS TO KIND OF LOOK AT A MULTITUDE OF FACTORS THAT INCLUDES SURROUNDING LAND USE, POPULATION DENSITY, CRASH HISTORY, A LOT OF THOSE DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS, THAT NUMBER OF DRIVEWAYS OR CURB CUTS. RIGHT. SO BASICALLY YOU'RE THINKING CONFLICT POINTS AND YOU'RE TRYING AND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO IS DEVELOP A RANGE OF SPEED LIMITS THAT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE APPROPRIATE THAN JUST KIND OF I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU. SO ARE YOU GETTING AWAY FROM THE 85TH PERCENTILE MODEL TO MOVE TOWARD MORE OF A ENVIRONMENTAL KIND OF MODEL THAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED? IT'S A BIT, BUT THAT IS PART OF THE DISCUSSION, BECAUSE WHAT WE SEE IS THAT AS CARS MOVE FASTER, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE 85TH PERCENTILE, CARS ARE MOVING FASTER AND THAT BECOMES YOUR NEW 85TH PERCENTILE. SO THE FASTER CARS GO, THE FASTER YOU'RE SETTING THAT AND THAT BECOMES YOUR DEFAULT SPEED JUST KEEPS GETTING FASTER AND FASTER, WHEN REALLY THAT'S THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT WE WANT IN A LOT OF AREAS. I'M GLAD TO HEAR YOU SAY THAT.YEAH, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN SIMON HAS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF A ROAD TO 35 MILE AN HOUR ROAD, AND IT MIGHT EVEN BE 25, BUT PEOPLE ARE GOING 95 ON IT. SO IF WE USE THE 85 PERCENTILE FOR IT, IT ALL OF A SUDDEN BECOMES A 75 MILE AN HOUR ROAD. AND THAT'S THAT'S CRAZY THINKING IN MY, IN MY MIND. RIGHT. AND VERY INAPPROPRIATE FOR THE CONTEXT. YEAH. YEAH.
EXACTLY. EXACTLY. THANK YOU. AND SO I TOUCHED ON THE, THE HIGHLIGHTS A LITTLE BIT. BUT SO IT'S LOOKING AT IT IS LOOKING AT SPEED THOUGH AS WELL. BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOT JUST EXCLUSIVELY 85TH PERCENTILE. WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THE MEDIAN SPEED AS WELL. SO THAT WE, WE KIND OF GET A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A WELL-ROUNDED SPEED DATA. AND SO WE'RE COMPARING THOSE OBSERVED SPEEDS TO THOSE POSTED SPEED LIMITS LOOKING. WE'RE LOOKING TO IDENTIFY WHERE THAT DISCREPANCY IS. AS I MENTIONED DEVELOPING A ROAD CONTEXT CLASSIFICATION. AND SO I'LL BE REALLY HONEST. SOME OF THE BEST WORK IS DONE THROUGH R&D RIP OFF AND DUPLICATE. I DID NOT COME UP WITH THAT TERM MYSELF, BUT THIS MODEL IS KIND OF A NATIONAL BEST PRACTICE, ACTUALLY. FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. HAS BEEN A REALLY, REALLY GREAT RESOURCE. AND THEY MAYBE DIDN'T INVENT THIS, BUT THEY'VE REALLY PUSHED IT THROUGHOUT ALL OF THEIR DISTRICTS ACROSS THE STATE USING THIS TYPE OF MODEL WHERE YOU KIND OF HAVE THAT DIFFERENT DIFFERING RANGE BASED ON BASED ON THE CONTEXT. SO IN SUBURBAN MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER DENSE URBAN A LITTLE BIT LOWER.
AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF RURAL AREAS ANYMORE IN JEFFERSON COUNTY. BUT IN THOSE YOU MIGHT SEE 45 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMITS ON SOME ROADS. LET'S SAY 40% OF THE. 39TH DISTRICT. THEY DON'T
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HAVE ANY BUSSES AND WE HAVE VERY FEW POSSESSIONS. SHE SAID, YOU'RE RIGHT, SHE SAID, WE CAN INTERFERE. INTERRUPT. YEAH. YOU SAID, WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT RURAL? I'M SORRY. OH, JUST THAT RURAL LIKE. YOU SAID, THERE'S NOT MUCH RULE, AND I'M JUST. YEAH. AND YOU'RE RIGHT. IT'S JUST MY AREA HAS A LOT OF RULES, SO THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY. YEAH, LIKE SOUTHEAST FLOYDS FORK IS JUST BOOMING. SO I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF SOME OF THE ROADS RIGHT NOW THAT ARE CONSIDERED THAT WE THINK OF AS A LITTLE BIT MORE RURAL, YOU KNOW, LIKE TWO, TWO LANE WINDY ROADS.EVENTUALLY THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF SUBDIVISIONS AND STUFF, SO THAT CONTEXT MIGHT CHANGE OVER TIME. AS THAT DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS. SO DOES DOES. I'M SORRY, WERE YOU. OH, WE'VE BEEN JOINED IN CHAMBER BY COUNCILWOMAN JENNIFER CHAPPELL. DOES THE ENFORCEMENT ELEMENT FACTOR INTO THE SETTING OF THE SPEED LIMIT AT ALL? I THINK SO, I THINK BECAUSE I THINK PART OF WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO IS FIND A KIND OF A REASONABLE AND APPROPRIATE BALANCE OF THAT SPEED, AND THEN AND THEN AND THEN DESIGN IT ACCORDINGLY. SO THAT MIGHT BE CONVERTING A ONE WAY STREET TO TWO WAY OR THINGS LIKE THAT. IN AN URBAN AREA. IT MIGHT ALSO BE ENFORCING AS WELL.
AND SO YOU MENTIONED COUNCILMAN SEIM, YOU KNOW, AUTOMATED ENFORCEMENT IS A TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX OF A LOT OF OTHER COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. NOT HERE YET, BUT I THINK THAT IT COULD BE A TOOL FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT EVENTUALLY. WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THAT? BUT I, I WOULD LOVE IT IF WE COULD. YEAH. I DON'T SEE IT HAPPENING. YEAH. I GUESS I'M OPTIMISTIC. IT'S BEING USED IN OTHER AREAS. MAY NOT NECESSARILY RIGHT HERE BUT IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY.
YEAH. BECAUSE IT WOULD TAKE A CHANGE IN STATE LAW. AND YEAH, I'VE HAD I'VE HAD A STATE REPRESENTATIVE LOOK ME RIGHT IN THE EYE AND SAY OVER MY DEAD BODY. SO THEY FEEL PRETTY STRONGLY ABOUT IT. YEAH. AND I KNOW AROUND HERE SPEEDING IS A PRETTY CONSTANT CONCERN. AND THE CONTEXT OF MY QUESTION WAS, IS IF ENFORCEMENT IS A PART OF IS A FACTOR IN THE DECISION MAKING OF A OF WHAT THE SPEED LIMIT IS SET TO. IF I'M GOING TO USE COUNCILMAN SAM'S EXAMPLE AGAIN, IF IT'S NOT BEING ENFORCED, THEN IS DESIGNED A TOOL TO USE TO REDUCE THE SPEED BECAUSE ENFORCEMENT HAS FAILED. CAN YOU PUT CURVES OR CERTAINLY IN IN SOME LOCATIONS, SOME PLACES ARE EASIER TO RETROFIT THAN OTHERS TO MAKE DESIGN REALLY GUIDE THE SPEED THAT PEOPLE TRAVEL. YOU WILL ALWAYS. PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SPEED DESIGN IS NOT GOING TO INHIBIT THEM FULLY FROM DOING THAT. SO BUT DESIGN COULD DEFINITELY BE AN OPTION IN A LOT OF PLACES. YEAH, IT'S A IT'S A PIECE OF THE PUZZLE. YEAH, EXACTLY. YEAH. IDEALLY WE WOULD HAVE ALL THE TOOLS IN OUR TOOLBOX AND WE WOULD LAYER THEM. ROADWAY DESIGN, SETTING THAT APPROPRIATE SPEED LIMIT, ENFORCING THAT APPROPRIATE SPEED LIMIT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
YOU'RE WELCOME. WE ALSO WE ALSO LEVERAGED OUR HIGH INJURY NETWORK WHICH IS THE CORRIDORS THAT ON A PER MILE BASIS ACCOUNT FOR A DISPROPORTIONATE AMOUNT OF OUR COMMUNITY'S FATAL AND SERIOUS INJURY CRASHES. SO WE LEVERAGED THAT RESOURCE AND TOOL, AND WE PRIORITIZED KIND OF FURTHER WINNOWED THAT DOWN FROM 53 CORRIDORS DOWN TO 1515 WITH HIGH SPEEDS AS WELL. AND PART OF THAT WAS LOOKING AT CRASH DATA WITH A LOT OF QUOTE UNQUOTE SPEED RELATED CRASHES. NOW, THAT DOES REQUIRE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO KIND OF CHECK THE BOX. THAT SPEED WAS A FACTOR IN THAT CRASH. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN IN ALL CASES, BUT WE USE THE DATA THAT'S AVAILABLE TO US. AND IF THOSE OFFICERS HAD CHECKED THE BOX, THEN THEN WE USE THAT TO KIND OF HELP GUIDE US TO PRIORITIZING THESE SPEED CORRIDORS.
AND THEN THIS IS SO LAST FOR THE SPEED MANAGEMENT PLAN. WHAT'S NEXT. SO THE FIRST STEP IS TO
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FORMALIZE THE PROGRAM AND ALLOCATE A FULL TIME STAFF MEMBER TO FACILITATE PLAN IMPLEMENTATION. AND ON THAT WE HAVE GRANT FUNDING PENDING. AS I MENTIONED. SO WE'VE WE DEVELOPED THE ROAD CONTEXT CLASSIFICATIONS WITH THESE SPEED LIMIT RANGES. THE NEXT STEP IS TO IS TO USE THEM AND BEGIN TO IMPLEMENT THEM. WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE. THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE CHANGING SPEED LIMITS AND IN SOME AREAS BUT ALSO BUT FOR THE MOST PART YOU COULDN'T DO THAT WITHOUT ROADWAY DESIGN AS WELL. SO AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, IN AN URBAN AREA THAT MIGHT BE CHANGING THE SPEED LIMIT AFTER YOU CONVERT A ROAD FROM ONE WAY TO TWO WAY, THAT THAT WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT ROADWAY DESIGN CHANGE. AND SO THEN YOU COULD THINK THAT A LOWER SPEED LIMIT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE OR WARRANTED. ADOPTING A SPEED LIMIT, SIGN PLACEMENT AND SPACING POLICY. SO THERE'S FEDERAL GUIDELINES OR GUIDANCE ON ON HOW TO DO THAT.BUT AT A DEPARTMENTAL LEVEL, JUST ADOPTING A POLICY AND AS WELL AS USING AN INVENTORY SYSTEM TO MAP AND REPLACE SIGNS AS AS NEEDED. SO I WAS I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU AND I'M GOING TO APOLOGIZE TO MY COLLEAGUES. I DON'T HAVE THE CUE PULLED UP. SO IF YOU WANT THE FLOOR, JUST GIVE ME THE HIGH SIGN OR SOMETHING. BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION. YEAH, NOBODY ELSE DOES. HOW DO YOU RECONCILE MAKING THESE THESE IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU'VE JUST ARTICULATED ON STATE ROADS WHEN THE STATE SAYS NO? YEAH. WELL, ULTIMATELY IF THEY OWN THE ROAD, THEN THAT'S THEIR PREROGATIVE.
BUT WE HAVE FOUND THEM TO BE A VERY WILLING PARTNER ON A LOT OF SAFETY PROJECTS. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT. YEAH, I THINK IT I THINK IT'S ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS FOR THEM. I THINK THERE'S SOME ROAD. RIGHT. BUT THERE ARE ACTIVELY THEY'RE CURRENTLY STUDYING BARDSTOWN ROAD, THE GREENBELT. YOU KNOW, WE ACTIVELY HAVE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON ON STATE ROADS. SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S OFF THE TABLE. IT WOULD PROBABLY TAKE A LITTLE MORE EFFORT. BUT WE'VE CERTAINLY, I THINK WORKED PRETTY WELL IN SOME VERY GOOD EXAMPLE CASES WITH THEM. AND I'LL ADD TO THAT TOO. THE STATE IS ABOUT KYTC IS ABOUT TO KICK OFF A STATEWIDE SPEED MANAGEMENT ACTION PLAN. THEY ACTUALLY FUNDED THIS PLAN FOR US AND THEY WERE A REALLY WONDERFUL PARTNER.
AND I THINK THERE WAS A LOT OF TO BE HONEST, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF LESSONS LEARNED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PLAN. AND SO THEY'VE TAKEN THAT TO HEART AND THEY'VE SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE WANT TO TAKE THIS STATEWIDE. ALL RIGHT, CLAIRE, I WANT TO TAKE YOU WITH ME NEXT TIME I GO VISIT HIM. OKAY? OKAY. DEPENDS ON WHO'S IN THE ROOM AND LET YOU DO ALL THE TALKING. THAT HAS NOT BEEN MY EXPERIENCE. YEAH, IT DEPENDS ON THE INDIVIDUAL. YEAH. SO WHAT? BEFORE WE GO, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ON SPEED MANAGEMENT? OKAY. AWESOME. OKAY. AND THEN SO FOR SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL, YOU KNOW THIS IS SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL IS KIND OF A TRIED AND TRUE PROGRAM I PUT UP THERE THAT IT'S EVIDENCE BASED. YOU KNOW BASICALLY RESEARCH SAYS THAT IMPLEMENTING THIS TYPE OF PROGRAM DOES HELP IMPROVE ROADWAY SAFETY IN SCHOOL ZONES. AND WHAT IS THAT? WELL, THAT PROGRAM IS IT'S A IT'S A BIT INFRASTRUCTURE AND BIT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AS WELL KIND OF OUTREACH. SO IT COULD BE THINGS LIKE BUILDING SIDEWALKS IN SCHOOL ZONES, KIND OF CONNECTING, SAY LIKE A SUBDIVISION UP TO A SCHOOL. IT COULD ALSO BE ENGAGING WITH PTA OR INDIVIDUAL SCHOOLS AND KIND OF UNDERSTANDING ON A DEEPER LEVEL WHAT THEY NEED. YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE SOME HURDLES, MAYBE FOR THEM TO GET MORE KIDS TO RIDE THEIR BIKES OR OR THEIR PARENTS TO WALK THEM TO SCHOOL, PARTICULARLY FOR HIGH SCHOOLS, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE STRAIGHTFORWARD. AND SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE DEVELOPED A GUIDE TO CREATING ONE OF THESE SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL PROGRAMS IN LOUISVILLE. AND IN THE FY 26 BUDGET, WELL, FOR THE FY 26 BUDGET, WE HAD REQUESTED $1 MILLION TO START THIS PROGRAM, WHICH IS ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE OF THE PLAN. BUT EVEN THOUGH THAT WAS NOT FUNDED, WE DID SEE THERE ARE
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THERE ARE SOME SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL PROJECTS THAT STILL KIND OF COINCIDE OR SUPPORT THAT, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, COUNCIL MEMBER CHAPPELL'S BLUEGRASS AVENUE SIDEWALK PROJECT THAT CONNECTS WILL EVENTUALLY CONNECT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX WITH HAZELWOOD ELEMENTARY. AND SO THAT'S A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHERE YOU CAN SEE KIND OF A CLEAR LINE OF GETTING SOMEONE FROM THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX UP TO THE SCHOOL CROSSWALK, AND THEN ACROSS THE STREET OVER INTO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. DON'T YOU NEED A COMMUNITY BASED SCHOOL SYSTEM FOR ANY OF THAT TO WORK? COMMUNITY? I'M. WHY IS IT NOT A FAIR QUESTION? NO, I'M I'M JUST ASKING FOR THAT MODEL TO WORK.DON'T YOU HAVE TO LIVE CLOSE TO THE SCHOOL? OH, YES. YEAH. YOU DO. YEAH. YEAH. BUT AS, AS WE'VE KIND OF THE REASON, PART OF THE IMPETUS FOR THIS PART OF IT WAS FROM A GROUP OF, OF PARENTS AND RESIDENTS, BUT ALSO PART OF THE IMPETUS WAS BECAUSE YOU KIND OF SAW THE WRITING ON THE WALL, ON THE WALL WITH JCPS. WITH MOVING AWAY FROM BUSSING. AND SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN OSTENSIBLY THERE WILL BE MORE CAR RIDERS, WHICH WE'VE SEEN OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, BUT THEN ALSO TOO, THAT PRESENTS A GLARING OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD OUT ANY SIDEWALK OR PATH NETWORKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, TO TRY AND MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER AND MORE COMFORTABLE, PARTICULARLY FOR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS AND MAYBE MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS, TO GET TO AND FROM SCHOOL.
ELEMENTARY SCHOOL STUDENTS. I THINK YOU COULD SEE THAT BEING A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT JUST BECAUSE OF THE AGE OF THE CHILD. I'D LOVE TO SEE IT. I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW IT WORKS IN JEFFERSON COUNTY. YEAH, AND WE ARE CHAIR RECOGNIZES COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL. THANK YOU. CHAIR. IT WAS UNFORTUNATE TO SEE THAT THERE WAS NO FUNDING IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET TO GO TO SAFE ROUTES FOR SCHOOL. AND I KNOW THAT YOU WERE SAYING THAT. YOU KNOW, FUNDING FOR THE PROGRAM IS ESSENTIAL, BUT I WAS WONDERING, IS THERE A DOCUMENT OR SOMETHING THAT OUTLINES THE PROJECTS THAT YOU ALL ARE PRIORITIZING? I'M ON THE SITE, AND I THINK THAT THERE'S A PRESENTATION, BUT THE LINK IS BROKEN BECAUSE IT TALKS ABOUT ASSESSMENTS AND TEN PILOT SCHOOL ZONES. AND EVEN THOUGH WE DIDN'T FULLY FUND THE COUNCIL DIRECTED TRAFFIC CALMING PROJECTS. YEAH, YOU KNOW, WE FUNDED A GOOD BIT OF THEM THIS PAST YEAR. AND I THINK THAT A REASON THAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT IS TO SHOW THE BUY IN FROM EVERY SINGLE COUNCIL DISTRICT AND BUY, BUY IN, I MEAN, BENEFIT. AND SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE KIND OF SHOPPED AROUND TO US TO SAY, OKAY, YOU KNOW, I HEAR FROM A LOT OF MY ESPECIALLY SUBURBAN COLLEAGUES ABOUT THESE TRAFFIC LINES AND HOW THEY'RE HOLDING UP, HOLDING UP TRAFFIC OR SCHOOL, RIGHT, OR DROP OFF LINES AND HOW THEY'RE REALLY HOLDING UP TRAFFIC. AND I'M JUST WONDERING, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY OF THESE PROJECTS HELP WITH THAT? AND THEN ALSO, YOU KNOW, SAFELY CROSSING AND GETTING TO SCHOOL LIKE YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I MEAN, WE HADN'T BROKEN IT OUT TO THE COUNCIL DISTRICT LEVEL YET, BUT WE CERTAINLY COULD PULL TOGETHER THAT RESEARCH. BUT. I CAN SEND YOU THE DID YOU SEE THE TEN? THE TEN PILOT PROJECTS? YEAH, I'M ON THE SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL WEBSITE, WHICH IT LOOKS LIKE YOU MIGHT WANT TO GO INTO THE DOMAIN REGISTRAR AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU'VE PAID FOR THAT DOMAIN. YEAH, BUT THERE'S A COUPLE OF BUTTONS ON HERE. ONE IS ABOUT THE PROGRAM FEED, SORRY, PROGRAM FRAMEWORK, AND THEN ANOTHER ONE THAT SAYS PRESENTATION. SO YOU CAN SEE THE LAST COMMITTEE PRESENTATION OR PRESENTATION YOU GAVE TO THIS COMMITTEE. BUT BOTH OF THOSE LINKS ARE BROKEN. SO THANK YOU. THE ONE OF THE DOMAIN NAMES JUST EXPIRED. AND WE DIDN'T HAVE FUNDING TO RENEW IT, SO I WILL I FIXED IT IN ONE PLACE BUT NOT EVERY PLACE. SO I'LL GET ON THAT. THANK YOU FOR THE HEADS UP. BUT THE TEN SCHOOLS. ARE ON EITHER ON OR IN CLOSE PROXIMITY
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TO THE HIGH INJURY NETWORK CORRIDORS. AGAIN, KIND OF USING THAT AS A TOOL TO PRIORITIZE LIMITED TIME AND RESOURCES. SO JANE J. GRAHAM. BROWN SCHOOL, LINCOLN ELEMENTARY, JOHNSON MIDDLE, MCFERRIN PREP, SCHAFFNER AND BUTLER, BOTH ON ON CRUMBS, IROQUOIS HIGH SCHOOL, VALLEY HIGH SCHOOL KIND OF. IT'S A LITTLE BIT ALL OVER THE PLACE, BUT ALL OF THEM ARE NEAR HIGH END NETWORK CORRIDORS. SO THOSE ARE THOSE ARE SOME OF THE SCHOOLS WITH WHERE WE DEVELOPED RECOMMENDATIONS. WE ACTUALLY DID ROAD SAFETY ASSESSMENTS AT ALL OF THOSE SCHOOL ZONES LAST YEAR, AND SWEATED IT OUT IN THE SUMMER WITH A COUPLE LMPD TRAFFIC GUARD TEAM MEMBERS AS WELL, AND KIND OF PUT TOGETHER A LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO YEAH, IT'S ON THE TABLE CHAIR, IF I MIGHT. THANK YOU. I FEEL LIKE IT'S KIND OF SILLY TO ASK THIS QUESTION BECAUSE THE ANSWER, I FEEL LIKE THE HONEST ANSWER WOULD PROBABLY NOT WANT TO BE SAID OUT LOUD. BUT HOW IS JCPS AND BEEN AS A PARTNER IN THIS PROGRAM? CHAIRMAN TO YOU? BUT SO MY OFFICE WORKS WITH THEM TOO. SO I, I KNOW THE EXPERIENCE. I'M JUST WONDERING IF IT'S A SHARED ONE. EVER SINCE JCPS HIRED A TRAFFIC COORDINATOR, THAT'S BEEN A REALLY BIG IMPROVEMENT. BUT BECAUSE WE CAN'T INVEST ON PRIVATE PROPERTY AND THEY CAN'T INVEST ON PUBLIC PROPERTY, THE PROPERTY LINE IS KIND OF LIKE A HANDSHAKE LINE, RIGHT WHERE YOU SAY, OKAY, LOOK, I'LL BUILD A SIDEWALK TO HERE. BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD BE LOOKING TO YOU TO MAYBE HATCH OUT A CROSSWALK TO GET YOU TO THE FRONT DOOR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SINCE THE PROGRAM HAS NOT KICKED OFF YET, WE CAN'T NECESSARILY DO A LOT OF THAT IN EARNEST. BUT WE HAVE CONTINUED TO COORDINATE WITH JCPS ALL ALONG THE WAY. WE MEET WITH THEM. I KNOW CLAIRE HAS CONVERSATIONS. I MEET MONTHLY WITH THE THEIR SITE TRAFFIC PERSON AND COORDINATE, YOU KNOW, ANY ISSUES AS THEY COME UP.HAVING A SPACE WHERE WE CAN JUST NATURALLY COORDINATE ON THOSE. YEAH. DOES THAT MEAN YOU ALL ARE PREPARED FOR THURSDAY? IS ANYONE EVER PREPARED FOR THE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL? I DON'T HAVE CHILDREN, SO THURSDAY'S THURSDAY FOR ME. THAT'S FUNNY. YEAH, BUT ASSUMING THAT'S A YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. PROCEED. THANKS. ARE YOU DONE? ANYTHING ELSE? IS THAT THE LAST ONE? YEAH. THAT'S THE LAST SLIDE I HAVE PREPARED. ALL RIGHT, WELL, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS. I KNOW WE KIND OF MACHINE GUNNED YOU WITH SOME SOME TOUGH QUESTIONS, BUT IT'S A PASSIONATE TOPIC, RIGHT? IT'S GETTING KIDS TO SCHOOL SAFELY AND EVERY ONE OF US GET PHONE CALLS. DID YOU WANT TO TALK? I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION, COUNCILMAN. IS JENNIFER. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU OR MAYBE MR. BELL WOULD KNOW ANY ISSUE THAT'S GOING ON AT FERN CREEK, WHERE THE LIBRARY IS BEING BUILT. AND THEY'RE THEY'RE ASKING. FERN CREEK HIGH SCHOOL IS ASKING FOR CURBS WHERE THEY'RE CHANGING THINGS BECAUSE OF THAT LIBRARY. ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THAT AT ALL? YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. SO WE HAVE HAD A CONVERSATION. I KNOW INITIALLY THE REQUEST WAS TO CONSTRUCT A CURB SIDEWALK ALONG THE FRONTAGE. THERE ARE A COUPLE DIFFERENT ISSUES WITH THAT THAT ARE UTILITY DRAINAGE. THE OTHER ISSUE IS THAT THEY ARE HAVING PARENTS THAT ARE STOPPING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD, AND CHILDREN WALKING DIRECTLY OUT TO THE ROAD TO LOAD FROM THAT LOCATION, SO THAT THAT IS PART OF AN ONGOING DISCUSSION. WE REALIZE THAT THERE ARE IDEALLY, WE WOULD HAVE SOME SYNERGY BETWEEN THE LIBRARY AND THE CONNECTIVITY WITH THE SCHOOL THAT COULD BE IMPROVED.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE INTEND TO CONTINUE WORKING ON. BECAUSE IF YOU GO TO THE SPEED MANAGEMENT PLAN, WHERE THE LEGEND IS HIGH NET WORTH, HIGH INJURY NETWORK, IF YOU GO TO THAT ONE REAL QUICK AND I'LL JUST BE A MINUTE. YOU SEE THAT IF YOU CLOSE IN ON THE RIGHT
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RIGHT, THE RIGHT BOTTOM CORNER THERE'S A P14. THAT LITTLE AREA THERE THAT'S BOTH BLUE AND RED.I CAN'T HARDLY SEE IT UP THERE. BUT THAT IS THAT AREA RIGHT THERE. SO WHAT CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT THAT AREA BEING BLUE AND RED? BECAUSE THAT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE FERN CREEK HIGH SCHOOL. AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM. ONE OF THE ISSUES PROBABLY IF THAT MEANS THERE'S ACCIDENTS THERE, IT MIGHT BE BECAUSE OF THAT CRAZY WAY IT'S SET UP. WHAT'S P14 MEAN ON THAT? I THINK, GOSH, I SHOULD HAVE PUT THE LEGEND IN HERE. I THINK THAT'S SOUTH HURSTBOURNE PARKWAY IN BETWEEN BARDSTOWN ROAD. YEAH, IN BETWEEN BARDSTOWN ROAD AND SOUTH WATTERSON TRAIL. I CAN'T P14 IS BARDSTOWN ROAD. YEAH. THE LITTLE PINK JUT OFF THOUGH. YEAH, THAT'S FERN CREEK ROAD IN FRONT OF THE IN FRONT OF THE. YEAH I THINK THE LITTLE PINK JUT OFF THERE IS, IS A SECTION OF HURSTBOURNE. OKAY. JUST SOUTH OF BARDSTOWN ROAD. ALL RIGHT. SHOOT, I WAS THINKING I HAD SOME AMMO TO COME WITH MY PROJECT, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT. THAT'S THAT'S TOO FAR NORTH IN FERN CREEK HIGH SCHOOL. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. JUST. THERE ARE TWO SCHOOLS THAT ARE IN MY DISTRICT. ONE, GUTERMUTH ELEMENTARY AND SHELBY ELEMENTARY. THERE ARE OTHERS, BUT PARTICULARLY AT THESE TWO, THERE ARE TWO WAY STOPS WHEN IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL IF THERE AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE SCHOOL. AND IT WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL IF IT WAS A THREE WAY STOP. LAST YEAR, I WAS VERY EXCITED TO HEAR UPDATES TO THE MUTCD MEANT THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY REVISIT PUTTING THESE SIGNS THERE, EVEN THOUGH THE SIGN PLACEMENT IS COMPLETELY AT THE DISCRETION OF OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. AND I WAS WONDERING ONE, IF I EMAIL YOU, CAN WE SEE ABOUT GETTING THOSE SIGNS PUT IN FOLLOW UP AGAIN? AND THEN THE SECOND PART, AND I THINK THAT THIS ONE IS MORE PERTINENT TO THE ENTIRE COUNCIL. TO ME, THAT SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING THAT'S COMPLETELY IN THE PURVIEW OF IN THE CAPACITY OF OUR CURRENT PUBLIC WORKS. AND SO ARE THERE PROJECTS LIKE THAT THAT ARE IDENTIFIED THAT DON'T REALLY COST ANYTHING BUT A SIGN, AND THE TIME THAT IT TAKES SOMEBODY TO PUT IT UP AND MAYBE ADD A STOP BAR, ARE PROJECTS LIKE THAT IDENTIFIED THAT YOU ALL HAVE THE CAPACITY TO DO TO MAKE IT SAFER AROUND SCHOOLS WITHOUT HAVING TO GET A GRANT AND GET A PROJECT MANAGER AND DO THIS, THAT. AND THE OTHER THING I MEAN, THAT SEEMS LIKE LOW HANGING FRUIT, AND I CAN'T BE THE ONLY COUNCIL MEMBER THAT IS SITTING HERE SAYING, LIKE, I JUST WANT TO STOP SIGN. THERE ARE IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE PILOT. IT IS BROKEN DOWN INTO SEGMENTS LIKE THAT WHERE I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S SPECIFICALLY SIGNAGE, BUT I KNOW STRIPING IS DEFINITELY CALLED OUT AT THOSE 1010 LOCATIONS. OKAY. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING. IT'S A GREAT PRESENTATION. THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING US. THANK YOU FOR
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BRINGING IT. AND WE STAND ADJOURNED. THANKS.* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.