Jul 31, 2025 Metro Council

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METRO TV WILL START IN 30S. TO FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE, I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING LATE. THE

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[Call to Order and Pledge of Allegiance]

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[Member Roll Call]

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COUNCILMEMBER. PIAGENTINI. COUNCIL MEMBER. BENSON. COUNCIL MEMBER. ROY, COUNCILMEMBER.

BRASHEAR. COUNCIL MEMBER. HUDSON HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. MAVERICK HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. VACHON.

PRESENT. PRESIDENT. ECKERSON PRESENT. PRESIDENT. YOU HAVE 22 AND A QUORUM. ALL RIGHT. LET THE

[1. ID 25-0436     Council Member Herndon will introduce Aiden Hinton, the Page for District 4.]

[2. ID 25-0420     Council Member Joseph will recognize Jorge Blas Bautista for being chosen as a Gates Scholar.]

SORRY, IT WAS ALREADY ON. I THOUGHT THE LIGHT NEEDED TO COME ON. I APOLOGIZE, COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR TAKING A FEW MINUTES. AS YOU KNOW, MY DAY JOB IS TEACHING AT BUTLER TRADITIONAL HIGH SCHOOL, WHICH IS IN COUNCILWOMAN PARISH RIGHTS DISTRICT. AND I ALSO HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF GETTING TO TEACH DUAL CREDIT GOVERNMENT AND HAVE SOME OF THE BRIGHTEST STUDENTS, I THINK, IN THE CITY, AND MAYBE NONE BRIGHTER THAN THE ONE THAT I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE. REAL QUICK, PRESIDENT ACKERSON, THIS THIS YOUNG MAN IS IN YOUR DISTRICT AND HAVE A LOT OF GOOD THINGS TO SAY ABOUT HIM. GEORGE, IF YOU WILL STAND UP HERE. GEORGE APPLIED FOR THE GATES SCHOLARSHIP, WHICH IS A NATIONAL SCHOLARSHIP THAT IS BASICALLY STUDENTS THAT THAT ACHIEVE THIS CAN GO ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY, ALL PAID. THEY CAN STUDY WHAT THEY WANT TO ALL PAID. AND GEORGE WAS 300 OUT OF ABOUT 100,000 APPLICATIONS. TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA. WE LOOKED IT UP AND YOU HAVE ABOUT THE SAME CHANCE OF BEING STRUCK BY LIGHTNING BEING KILLED BY A BEE. IT IS VERY RARE THAT THAT THIS ACCOMPLISHMENT TAKES PLACE. AND SO WE ARE SO PROUD OF GEORGE AND

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ALRIGHT, CONGRATULATIONS. AND HERE'S YOUR PROCLAMATION. GOD BLESS YOU. CONGRATULATIONS. YOU WANT A PHOTO UP HERE? YEAH. CONGRATULATIONS. YEAH. THANK YOU. CAN YOU GET A PHOTO? CAUSE SHE'S YOURS. OKAY.

[3. ID 25-0433     Addresses to Council – July 31, 2025]

THERE'S FIVE. LET ME REMIND THOSE ADDRESSED TO THE COUNCIL TO PLEASE REFRAIN FROM USING PROFANITY OR MAKING ANY DEROGATORY REMARKS TOWARDS COUNCIL PEOPLE. ADDITIONALLY, THERE ARE NO MORE THAN THREE PERSONS THAT MAY SPEAK ON ANY PARTICULAR PURPOSE OR CAUSE. AND FINALLY, THESE COUNCIL SPEECHES CANNOT BE USED TO POLITICIZE OR TO TRY TO PROPAGANDIZE YOUR BUSINESS. OTHER THAN THAT, COME FORWARD AND WE WELCOME YOU. JOHN CAVALCANTE. IT WAS NOT THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE TO HAVE A REPUBLICAN CHAIR OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE. IT WAS NOT THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE TO HAVE THE ELECTED MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL WIPED OUT BY SOME DEAL OR EXPERIMENT, FROM THE ETHICS VIOLATIONS TO THE UNUSUAL MOVE INVOLVED IN PUSHING THE SIGMA SQUARED CONTRACT THROUGH THE METRO COUNCIL HAS CONTINUED TO ERODE PUBLIC TRUST. WE HAVE THE CHIEF TELLING US WE AREN'T RAISING OUR CHILDREN RIGHT, BUT SOMEHOW THE HEART'S PROGRAMING GRANTS THAT FUNDED ARTS EDUCATION FOR YOUTH IN OUR COMMUNITY CENTERS GOT DROPPED FROM THE BUDGET. THE CHIEF ALSO ANNOUNCED HE WAS FRUSTRATED WITH THE CHAOS OF ACTIVE SHOOTER RUMORS. THAT HUGE EVENT WAS ATTENDED BY CHILDREN WHO HAVE HAD ACTIVE SHOOTER DRILLS THEIR ENTIRE LIVES. THEY HAVE SEEN TOO MANY DEATHS FOR THERE NOT TO BE CHAOS. VISION IS THE ABILITY TO SEE A GOAL AND THE PATH TO ACCOMPLISH THAT GOAL. THEN BEING ABLE TO LEAD THE PROCESS TO

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YOU ALL KNOW ME PRETTY WELL. I LIVE IN DISTRICT FOUR, ONE OF THE LARGEST AREAS IN METRO LOUISVILLE. IT'S METRO. WE HAVE THE SECOND LARGEST CONVENTION CENTER IN THE UNITED STATES.

THIS IS LAST MONTH'S CONVENTIONS. I PASSED THIS OUT EVERY MONTH TO ALL THE RESTAURANTS IN METRO LOUISVILLE. LAST MONTH WE HAD 19,000 GIRLS HERE. THEY PAID $57 MILLION FOR OUR CONVENTION CENTER, BUT THEY STAYED DOWNTOWN LOUISVILLE. WHAT DOES LOUISVILLE OFFER? FOR SURE, LIFE IS DEAD. WE HAVE NOTHING THERE. NO MORE MR. DAVID KORESH. I WAS THERE WITH ARMSTRONG, DAVID ARMSTRONG, OUR VERY GOOD MAYOR. HE SOLD THE GALLERIA TO DAVID KORESH FOR $1 AND FORCE, YOUR LIFE IS GONE DOWN. THERE'S NOTHING THERE. I LIVE THERE, ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE OMNI HOTEL. WE HAVE. WE HAVE HOTELS, HOTELS GOING UP. WAY TO GO. AND WITHIN THE NEXT TWO YEARS WE GO, EXCUSE ME, WE NEXT YEAR AND A HALF, WE GOT 1500 NEW APARTMENTS GOING UP. BROWN BROTHERS, CADILLAC LEAGUES WITH 300 APARTMENTS THERE FOR SECTION EIGHT. THEY BOUGHT THE GREYHOUND BUS STATION, 2000 MORE HOTEL APARTMENTS GOING UP. I WORKED THE ELECTIONS. I GOT US OUT BECAUSE A MAN CAME IN THERE WITH A GUN AND THEIR PANTS SHOWING UP. THAT'S GOING TO BE U OF L BOUGHT THE MANOR AND THEY BOUGHT FIRST LINK FOR TARC. BUS IS LOSING MONEY. GUESS WHAT? WE HAVE NO PLACE TO SHOP. HOW MANY OF YOU ALL WANT TO GO HOME AND WRITE A BOMB INTO THE GROCERY STORE? TARC BUS HAS GOT NO MONEY. WE NEED GROCERY STORE. I'VE TALKED TO COSTCO'S.

KROGER'S HAS GOT A NEW MAYOR, NEW BOSS, AND I WANT TO TALK TO THEM IN CINCINNATI. SO GUESS WHAT? I'M A DISABLED WOMAN AND YOU ALL KNOW HOW BIG MOUTH I AM. AND THEY SAID, WE NEED SOMEBODY LIKE YOU ALL. I'VE TAKEN IT TO MY OFFICIALS. NICOLE. DEPUTY MAYOR NICOLE, SHE HELPED ME GET THIS CITY ORDINANCE PASSED ABOUT SECOND STREET. IT IS A HIGHWAY. THAT'S WHY WE DON'T HAVE DISABLED. WE DON'T HAVE HOMELESS ON SECOND STREET NO MORE. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU. I DON'T KNOW WHOSE DEPARTMENT IS EACH OF YOU ARE IN. SOMEBODY IN YOUR DEPARTMENT CAN WORK WITH ME BECAUSE WE'VE GOT ABOUT 2000 NEW APARTMENTS GOING UP WITHIN THE NEXT TWO YEARS. WE NEED SHOPPING. COSTCO EVEN TOLD ME THEY'LL COME DOWNTOWN LOUISVILLE. WE GOT SPACE. I GOT APPOINTED ON SOME DIVISIONS. HOW MANY OF YOU WOULD LIKE TO STOP BY COSTCO OR SAM'S ON THE WAY HOME? THE COAST IS. KROGER'S IS ON 29TH STREET. KROGER SAID THEY GOT A NEW BOSS. I GOT IT RIGHT HERE. I GET BUSINESS FIRST. I RUN A NONPROFIT FOR EPILEPSY. AN ARMY CORPS GOT THE LGA. THEY'RE PUTTING 700 NEW WORKERS IN THERE THE FIRST YEAR. SO LET'S WORK TOGETHER. YOU ALL WANT GROCERY, YOU WANT THIS. YOU GOT PEOPLE COMING TO METRO. WE GOT WEST END. LET'S GO. METRO. YOU GOT OVER 2000 NEW PEOPLE LIVING THERE, AND YOU GOT NEW LOU. YOU GOT KENTUCKY TOWERS. WHERE CAN

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ALL RIGHT. HOW Y'ALL DOING? WE'RE GETTING OUR. WE'RE GETTING KILLED WITH THIS. REPUBLICANS CONTROLLING THE STATE HOUSE AND SENATE. AND I THINK A LOT OF IT'S OUR MESSAGING. I THINK A LOT OF IT. WE GOT LAWYERS RUNNING OUR DEMOCRATIC PARTY RIGHT NOW. SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO HELP YOU WITH THAT RIGHT NOW, DONALD TRUMP IS NOT A WHITE WORKING CLASS PERSON. WE'RE LOSING THAT DEMOGRAPHIC. DONALD TRUMP'S DAD WAS A MULTI-MILLIONAIRE. HE GOT HIS START IN LIFE BY HIS DAD. HIS RICH DADDY GAVE HIM MULTI MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. THAT'S HOW HE STARTED HIS LIFE. DONALD TRUMP THAT KEEPS ALL THESE REPUBLICANS KEEP SAYING HE'S A PATRIOT. HE'S NOT. HE'S A DRAFT DODGER. HIS RICH DAD GAVE HIM A DOCTOR'S NOTE TO GET HIM OUT OF THE DRAFT. GOT HAD A FRIEND, DOCTOR FRIEND LIVING IN ONE OF HIS BUILDINGS GAVE HIM A DOCTOR'S NOTE TO GET HIM OUT OF THE DRAFT. MY FATHER, MY GRANDFATHER AND HIS FATHER, ALL FROM LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY, AND ALL WERE IN THE UNITED STATES ARMY. NONE OF THEM DODGED THE DRAFT LIKE DONALD TRUMP. SO HOW IS HE? PATRIOTIC. HERE'S A PICTURE OF THE VIETNAM WAR. THIS IS JOHN RANDALL JUNIOR. YOU SEE THIS? DO YOU ALL HAVE HEY, REPUBLICANS, DO YOU ALL HAVE A PICTURE OF THIS FROM VIETNAM? NO, BECAUSE THE GUY YOU ALL SUPPORT, YOU GOT PICTURES OF HIM WITH EPSTEIN. ALRIGHT. ALSO, THERE IS A GUYS A GENOCIDE GOING ON JUST IN CASE Y'ALL DIDN'T KNOW THIS. AND IT'S GOT LINKS TO KENTUCKY BECAUSE EVERY ONE OF OUR US HOUSE REPS IS FUNDED BY AIPAC AND WEAPONS MAKERS THOMAS MASSIE, THOMAS MASSIE I KNOW TRUMP'S AFTER YOU. IF YOU NEED ME TO HELP YOU OUT, I'LL HELP YOU OUT, EVEN IF YOU'RE A REPUBLICAN, BECAUSE YOU'RE ACTUALLY ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY. IF YOU WONDER WHY SO MANY IRISH CATHOLICS ARE AGAINST THE GODS OF WAR AND GENOCIDE, IT'S A GOOD SONG ABOUT THIS. IT'S FROM SINEAD O'CONNOR. IT'S CALLED FAMINE. THE THEY WERE STARVED TO DEATH IN IRELAND, JUST LIKE GOD'S IS BEING STARVED TO DEATH RIGHT NOW. WE NEED TO WORK ON OUR MESSAGING. WE NEED TO WORK ON. WE NEED MORE PEOPLE TALKING STUFF LIKE BERNIE SANDERS IS TALKING. WE NEED TO START TALKING ABOUT FREE UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE, DENTAL CARE, PAID FMLA. THAT SHOULD BE OUR MESSAGE. TAKH TAKH I BOUGHT MY DODGE. I HAD A DODGE AND IT'S DOUBLE PRICED NOW. SO IT'S GOING TO COME IN A TIME IN HISTORY THAT IS GOING TO BE HARD FOR A LOT OF THESE YOUNG PEOPLE TO GET CARS, AND WE NEED TO FUND TARC IN THE CITY OF LOUISVILLE AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY, ALL ACROSS THE STATE, THERE'S PEOPLE WITHOUT TEETH ALL OVER KENTUCKY BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO EVEN GO TO THE DENTIST. THERE'S AND I MEAN, Y'ALL CAN THINK THAT'S FUNNY, BUT I SEE HIM ALL THE TIME. I WORK WITH SOME DISADVANTAGED PEOPLE, AND THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY. THANK YOU. REST OF PRESIDENT. YOU GOT THE EVIDENCE. EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT. THANK YOU, SAM AVERY. HELLO, SAM. AVERY'S MY NAME. I'M WITH THE RENEWABLE ENERGY ALLIANCE OF LOUISVILLE. THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.

CARBON DIOXIDE FROM FOSSIL FUEL IS NOT LIKE LOCAL AIR POLLUTION. IT DOESN'T BLOW OUT TO SEA. IT DOESN'T SETTLE OUT OF THE AIR. IT'S EVERYWHERE IN THE PLANETARY SYSTEM. AND IT WILL REMAIN THERE FOR CENTURIES. AND IT CHANGES HOW THE ATMOSPHERE WORKS. AS YOU KNOW, IT MAKES SOME PLACES HOTTER AND MORE HUMID AND OTHER PLACES DRIER. IT MAKES STORMS AND FLOODS AND FIRES A LOT WORSE THAN THEY USED TO BE. SCIENTISTS PREDICTED THIS, BUT THEY DIDN'T KNOW IT WOULD HAPPEN THIS SOON.

NOW, THIS BODY, LOUISVILLE METRO COUNCIL, PASSED A RESOLUTION IN 2020 FOR 100% RENEWABLE ENERGY.

THANK YOU. THIS BODY ALSO FOR THE FIRST TIME, DIRECTLY APPROPRIATED MONEY FOR ROOFTOP SOLAR ON CITY BUILDINGS. THANK YOU AGAIN. BUT WE STILL HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO. AT SOME POINT,

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I JOINED AFTER A DEAR FRIEND OF MINE WAS MURDERED IN FRONT OF ME DOWNTOWN IN 2004, AND I HAD TO ESCAPE THE CITY LIFE. I SERVED MY COUNTRY PROUDLY AS MY FAMILY HAS DONE, DATING BACK TO THE REVOLUTION. MY FAMILY TREE IS SMALLER BECAUSE SOME OF US DID NOT COME HOME AFTER MY SERVICE.

I WANTED TO CONTINUE TO SERVE. SO I GAVE TEN MORE YEARS OF MY LIFE TO THE VFW AND TO THIS CITY. I EVEN HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE AWARDS OF COMMUNITY SERVICE AND. I CURRENTLY SERVE COLONEL TIM KIRK, THE FOUNDER OF THE WORLD WARRIOR HEALING CENTER AND THE SPEECHWRITER FOR ADMIRAL MULLEN'S THE JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF, FORMER CHAIRMAN. MY SPEECH IS REWRITTEN AS OF LAST NIGHT. IT'S WHY I'M LOOKING DOWN AND EDITED OUT OF RESPECT FOR THE COUNCIL AND ELECTIONEERING RULES. IN 2023, I WAS WRONGFULLY INCARCERATED, AND I HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY IGNORED BY THE MAYOR'S OFFICE THROUGH PHONE CALLS, EMAILS AND ONLINE FORUMS FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS. EVEN AFTER IT HAS BEEN FACTUALLY PROVEN THAT I HAVE COMMITTED NO CRIMES, THE BEST I RECEIVED WAS AN ADMISSION OF THE MISTAKES THAT WERE MADE IN AN UNCONVINCING SORRY FROM THE COURT, BUT THIS SPEECH ISN'T JUST ABOUT MYSELF, IT'S ABOUT ALL OF YOU AND THE 600,000 PLUS PEOPLE YOU REPRESENT. LOUISVILLE COULD BE A BEACON OF HOPE FOR THIS ENTIRE NATION. IF WE ADDRESS THE NUMBER ONE PROBLEM THAT LEADS TO ALMOST ALL THE OTHER PROBLEMS, AND THAT IS THE HARD DRUGS IN THIS CITY, HARD DRUGS LEAD TO ADDICTION, HOMELESSNESS, CRIME, OVERDOSES, SHOOTINGS, GRIEVING, GRIEVING FAMILIES AND CHILDREN ARE OUT HERE SUFFERING BECAUSE THE PARENTS ARE ADDICTED. HARD DRUGS HAVE ZERO BENEFIT, YET THEY ARE WIDELY AVAILABLE IN ALL DISTRICTS. THEY CAUSE PAIN, SUFFERING AND ENDLESS TAXPAYER EXPENSES. FOR EXAMPLE, THE CLEAR BOARDING DISCUSSIONS AS I DO WATCH THESE MEETINGS, HARD DRUGS HAVE PARALYZED AND CRIPPLED OUR CITY, AND THE GOOD PEOPLE DON'T EVEN WANT TO LEAVE THEIR HOMES ANYMORE. I ENVISION A DRUG FREE LOUISVILLE, AND THE PEOPLE HAVE TOLD ME AND I QUOTE, PUT UP AND SHUT UP, PUT UP OR SHUT UP. IT CAN'T BE DONE. IT'S AN UPHILL BATTLE. GET INVOLVED. YOU HAVE NO IDEA THE POWER OF THOSE WHO SPEAK OF. I HAVE ONE MESSAGE FOR YOU GUYS. YOU CAN HOPE, BUT YOU NEED ACTION. YOU CAN HAVE HOPE

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[4. ID 25-0404     Regular:  Metro Council – June 26, 2025]

[Committee Minutes]

[5. ID 25-0405     Regular:  Committee of the Whole – June 26, 2025]

[6. ID 25-0410     Regular:  Planning and Zoning Committee – July 22, 2025]

[7. ID 25-0408     Regular:  Labor and Economic Development Committee – July 22, 2025]

[8. ID 25-0411     Regular:  Public Works Committee – July 22, 2025]

[9. ID 25-0412     Regular:  Government Oversight/ Audits and Appointments Committee – July 22, 2025]

[10. ID 25-0413     Regular:  Equity, Community Affairs, Housing, Health, and Education Committee – July 23, 2025]

[11. ID 25-0409     Regular:  Appropriations Committee – July 23, 2025]

[12. ID 25-0414     Regular:  Public Safety – July 23, 2025]

[13. ID 25-0415     Regular:  Ad Hoc Committee on Efficiency of Boards and Commissions – July 23, 2025]

[14. ID 25-0416     Regular:  Parks and Sustainability – July 24, 2025]

[15. ID 25-0406     Regular:  Committee on Committees – July 29, 2025]

[Communications to the Council]

MAYOR. DEAR PERSON. EXCELLENT. APPOINTED THE FOLLOWING. MEDICAL CENTER COMMISSION OF JEFFERSON COUNTY. JENNIFER. SCULPTURE. NO APPOINTMENT. TERM EXPIRES JANUARY 12TH, 2026. TODD LAMBERT NO APPOINTMENT TERM EXPIRES JANUARY 12TH, 2026. THIS IS TO BE READ INTO THE RECORD. ONLY METRO APPROVAL OF THIS APPOINTMENT IS NOT REQUIRED. SINCERELY CORRECT. MAYOR. DEAR PRESIDENT ATKINSON, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE COMMISSION, I REPORTED THE FOLLOWING. JAY DAVIDSON REAPPOINTMENT TERM EXPIRES 630 2027. YOUR PROMPT ATTENTION IS TO THIS APPOINTMENT. REAPPOINTMENT IS MOST APPRECIATED. SINCERELY, CRAIG GREENBERG. MAYOR. DEAR PRESIDENT, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PREVENTION COORDINATION COUNCIL, I'M APPOINTING THE FOLLOWING BETH MELANIE DENHAM. NEW APPOINTMENT TERM EXPIRES APRIL 26TH, 2028. KELLY LUCKI NEW APPOINTMENT TERM EXPIRES APRIL 26TH, 2028. YOUR PROMPT ACTION TO THESE APPOINTMENTS IS MOST APPRECIATED. SINCERELY, CRAIG GREENBERG MAYOR DEAR PERSON, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FIRE PROTECTION ORDINANCE, I'M APPOINTING THE FOLLOWING TO THE JEFFERSONTOWN FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT. TARA HARRIS NEW APPOINTMENT TERM EXPIRES JUNE 30TH, 2027. YOUR PROMPT ATTENTION TO THIS APPOINTMENT IS MOST APPRECIATED. SINCERELY, CRAIG GREENBERG, MAYOR READ AND FULL APPOINTMENTS COUNCIL WILL BE FORWARDED TO THE GOVERNMENT OVERGHT AUDIT APPOINTMENT COMMITTEE. T NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS BE THE CONSENT CALENDAR. CONSENT CALENDAR COMPRISES OF ITEMS 21 THROUGH 45. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS? I BELIEVE ITEM NUMBER 35 IS COMING OFF OKAY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS? MADAM CLERK, A SECOND READING OF THOSE ITEMS PLEASE.

[Consent Calendar]

[Legislation forwarded from APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE]

[21. O-160-25     AN ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING $7,500 FROM DISTRICT 13 NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS, THROUGH THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET, TO FAIRDALE FAIR COMMUNITY UNITED, INC., FOR SPONSORSHIP OF THE 2025 FAIRDALE FAIR TO BE HELD OCTOBER 2-4, 2025. 7/23/25 Appropriations Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: December 26, 2025 Sponsors: Dan Seum, Jr. (R-13) ]

[22. O-163-25     AN ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING $11,491 FROM DISTRICT 21 NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS TO PUBLIC WORKS, FOR CLEARING AND BEAUTIFICATION PROJECTS ON LUCAS AVENUE AND DURRETT LANE IN DISTRICT 21. 7/23/25 Appropriations Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: December 26, 2025 Sponsors: Betsy Ruhe (D-21) ]

[Legislation forwarded from COMMITTEE ON COMMITTEES]

[23. R-081-25     A RESOLUTION PURSUANT TO THE CAPITAL AND OPERATING BUDGET ORDINANCES APPROVING THE APPROPRIATION TO FUND THE FOLLOWING PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT FOR LOUISVILLE METRO OFFICE OF INTERNAL AUDIT FOR WORKPLACE INVESTIGATION SERVICES (LAUTH INVESTIGATION INTERNATIONAL, INC. - $20,000). 7/29/25 Committee on Committees  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: December 26, 2025 Sponsors: Brent Ackerson (D-26) ]

[Legislation forwarded from GOVERNMENT OVERSIGHT/AUDIT AND APPOINTMENTS COMMITTEE]

[24. RP072225WF     REAPPOINTMENT OF WILLIAM BRANDT FORD TO THE BOARD OF ZONING ADJUSTMENT. (TERM EXPIRES JUNE 30, 2028) 7/22/25 Government Oversight/Audit and Appointments Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: December 26, 2025]

[25. RP072225YV     REAPPOINTMENT OF YANI VOZOS TO THE BOARD OF ZONING ADJUSTMENT. (TERM EXPIRES JUNE 30, 2028) 7/22/25 Government Oversight/Audit and Appointments Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: December 26, 2025]

[26. RP072225FC     REAPPOINTMENT OF FORREST CLAY TO THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE COMMISSION. (TERM EXPIRES JUNE 30, 2027) 7/22/25 Government Oversight/Audit and Appointments Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: December 26, 2025]

[27. RP072225JJ     REAPPOINTMENT OF JOANN JAMES TO THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE COMMISSION. (TERM EXPIRES JUNE 30, 2027) 7/22/25 Government Oversight/Audit and Appointments Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: December 26, 2025]

[28. AP072225SL     APPOINTMENT OF STEPHEN LAUYANS TO THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE COMMISSION. (TERM EXPIRES DECEMBER 31, 2026) 7/22/25 Government Oversight/Audit and Appointments Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: December 26, 2025]

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[29. RP072225SD     REAPPOINTMENT OF SHANNON DERRICK TO THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PREVENTION COORDINATING COUNCIL. (TERM EXPIRES APRIL 26, 2028) 7/22/25 Government Oversight/Audit and Appointments Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: December 26, 2025]

[30. RP072225KB     REAPPOINTMENT OF KARINA BARILLAS TO THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PREVENTION COORDINATING COUNCIL. (TERM EXPIRES APRIL 26, 2028) 7/22/25 Government Oversight/Audit and Appointments Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: December 26, 2025]

[31. AP072225AL     APPOINTMENT OF AUTUMN LOCKHART TO THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PREVENTION COORDINATING COUNCIL. (TERM EXPIRES APRIL 26, 2028) 7/22/25 Government Oversight/Audit and Appointments Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: December 26, 2025]

[32. AP072225BH     APPOINTMENT OF BRITTANY HILL-WHITEHEAD TO THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PREVENTION COORDINATING COUNCIL. (TERM EXPIRES APRIL 26, 2028) 7/22/25 Government Oversight/Audit and Appointments Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: December 26, 2025]

[33. AP072224EF     APPOINTMENT OF ELEA FOX TO THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PREVENTION COORDINATING COUNCIL. (TERM EXPIRES APRIL 26, 2028) 7/22/25 Government Oversight/Audit and Appointments Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: December 26, 2025]

[34. AP072225BD     APPOINTMENT OF BRITTNEY DOYLE TO THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PREVENTION COORDINATING COUNCIL. (TERM EXPIRES APRIL 26, 2028) 7/22/25 Government Oversight/Audit and Appointments Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: December 26, 2025]

[Legislation forwarded from LABOR AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE]

ITEM 36 A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE GRANTING OF LOCAL INCENTIVES TO CHARITY PARTNERS, LLC AND ANY

[36. R-079-25     A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE GRANTING OF LOCAL INCENTIVES TO CERITY PARTNERS LLC AND ANY SUBSEQUENT ASSIGNEES OR APPROVED AFFILIATES THEREOF PURSUANT TO KRS CHAPTER 154, SUBCHAPTER 32. 7/22/25 Labor and Economic Development Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: December 26, 2025 Sponsors: Anthony Piagentini (R-19) ]

[37. R-080-25     A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO REQUEST AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GRANT FROM THE KENTUCKY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FINANCE AUTHORITY FOR THE BENEFIT OF VSIMPLE, INC. IN THE AMOUNT OF $500,000 AND TO ACCEPT SAID GRANT IF AWARDED. 7/22/25 Labor and Economic Development Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: December 26, 2025 Sponsors: Ben Reno-Weber (D-8) ]

[38. R-082-25     A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO REQUEST AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GRANT FROM THE KENTUCKY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FINANCE AUTHORITY FOR THE BENEFIT OF ANTHRO ENERGY, INC. IN THE AMOUNT OF $750,000 AND TO ACCEPT SAID GRANT IF AWARDED. 7/22/25 Labor and Economic Development Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: December 26, 2025 Sponsors: Jonathan ”JJ” Joseph (R-12) ]

[39. R-083-25     A RESOLUTION PURSUANT TO THE CAPITAL AND OPERATING BUDGET ORDINANCES APPROVING THE APPROPRIATION TO FUND THE FOLLOWING PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT FOR LOUISVILLE METRO PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELLNESS TO OBTAIN SPECIALIZED PHYSICIAN SERVICES (MARK S. JORRISCH, M.D. - $183,960). 7/22/25 Labor and Economic Development Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: December 26, 2025 Sponsors: Ben Reno-Weber (D-8) ]

[40. R-084-25     A RESOLUTION PURSUANT TO THE CAPITAL AND OPERATING BUDGET ORDINANCES APPROVING THE APPROPRIATION TO FUND THE FOLLOWING NONCOMPETITIVELY NEGOTIATED PROFESSIONAL SERVICE CONTRACT FOR LOUISVILLE METRO POLICE DEPARTMENT CONCERNING FORENSIC MEDICAL SERVICES FOR ABUSED AND NEGLECTED CHILDREN (COMMUNITY MEDICAL ASSOCIATES, INC. D/B/A NORTON CHILDREN’S MEDICAL GROUP - $200,000). 7/22/25 Labor and Economic Development Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: December 26, 2025 Sponsors: Ben Reno-Weber (D-8) ]

[41. R-085-25     A RESOLUTION RATIFYING AND APPROVING A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT (FROM THE DATE OF ITS APPROVAL THROUGH JUNE 30, 2029) RELATING TO WAGES, HOURS, AND OTHER TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT BETWEEN LOUISVILLE/JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT AND AMERICAN FEDERATION OF STATE, COUNTY AND MUNICIPAL EMPLOYEES AFL-CIO, LOCAL 2629 (“AFSCME”), CONCERNING EMPLOYEES OF METRO PARKS DEPARTMENT MAINTENANCE AND RECREATION UNITS FOR WHOM AFSCME IS RECOGNIZED AS THE EXCLUSIVE BARGAINING REPRESENTATIVE. 7/22/25 Labor and Economic Development Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: December 26, 2025 Sponsors: Ben Reno-Weber (D-8) ]

[42. R-086-25     A RESOLUTION RATIFYING AND APPROVING A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT (FROM THE DATE OF ITS APPROVAL THROUGH JUNE 30, 2029) BETWEEN LOUISVILLE/JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT AND THE AMERICAN FEDERATION OF STATE, COUNTY AND MUNICIPAL EMPLOYEES, AFL-CIO, LOCAL 2629 (“AFSCME”) RELATING TO WAGES, HOURS, AND OTHER TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT OF CERTAIN CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES IN LOUISVILLE METRO CORRECTIONS DEPARTMENT. 7/22/25 Labor and Economic Development Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: December 26, 2025 Sponsors: Ben Reno-Weber (D-8) ]

[43. R-087-25     AN RESOLUTION RATIFYING AND APPROVING A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT (FROM THE DATE OF ITS APPROVAL THROUGH JUNE 30, 2029) RELATING TO WAGES, HOURS, AND OTHER TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT BETWEEN LOUISVILLE/JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT AND TEAMSTERS LOCAL 783 AFFILIATED WITH THE INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD OF TEAMSTERS OF AMERICA REPRESENTING LOUISVILLE EMERGENCY SERVICES/METRO SAFE DEPARTMENT. 7/22/25 Labor and Economic Development Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: December 26, 2025 Sponsors: Ben Reno-Weber (D-8) ]

[Legislation forwarded from PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE]

[44. O-161-25     AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE LOUISVILLE METRO CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 156 REQUIRING THE CLEAR BOARDING OF VACANT, AT-RISK PROPERTIES. 7/22/25  Planning and Zoning Committee Recommended for Approval Action Required By: December 26, 2025 Sponsors: Donna L. Purvis (D-5) ]

[Legislation forwarded from PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE]

[45. O-131-25     AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE LOUISVILLE METRO CODE OF ORDINANCES (“LMCO”) CHAPTER 51 REGARDING THE LICENSING OF TRASH HAULERS AND ENFORCEMENT OF LICENSING REQUIREMENTS. 7/23/25 Public Safety Committee  Recommended for Approval 6/18/25 Public Safety Committee Held Action Required By:  December 12, 2025 Sponsors: Dan Seum, Jr. (R-13), Jonathan “JJ” Joseph (R-12), Crystal Bast (R-14), Kevin Bratcher (R-22), Ginny Mulvey-Woolridge (R-24)]

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[Old Business]

[46. R-076-25     A RESOLUTION AMENDING RULE 1.01(d) OF THE RULES OF THE LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL OF THE LOUISVILLE/JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT REGARDING AMENDMENTS OF THE METRO COUNCIL RULES. 7/29/25 Committee on Committees  Recommended for Approval 6/24/25 Committee on Committees  Held Action Required By:  December 12, 2025 Sponsors: Brent Ackerson (D-26) ]

I'M GOING TO RELIEVE THE CHAIR TO THE PRESIDENT PRO TEM, BECAUSE I'M GOING TO COME DOWN AND SPEAK TO THIS BECAUSE THIS IS MY RULE CHANGE. WHAT DO YOU THINK? AND I CALL ON MYSELF AS I LEAVE. THE WORST PART, IT WORKED THAT WAY TODAY, BROTHER. ALRIGHT FOLKS, THIS IS A RULE CHANGE.

ESSENTIALLY, WHEN WE CHANGE THE RULES, THIS IS GOING TO TAKE 14 VOTES. IF WE PASS THIS MOVING FORWARD, IT WILL TAKE 18 VOTES TO CHANGE ANY RULES BEFORE THIS COUNCIL. THE IDEA BEING IS WE'RE MOVING TO A NONPARTIZAN COUNCIL. THIS IS A SITUATION WHERE WE'VE BEEN RUNNING ON THE SAME RULES FOR SO LONG. THEY'RE GOOD RULES. HOWEVER, ANY FUTURE RULE CHANGES IN MY OPINION YOU MIGHT DISAGREE WITH ME, SHOULD REQUIRE SUPERMAJORITY 18 VOTES BECAUSE IF YOU GET 18 VOTES MEANS THAT YOU'RE GETTING PEOPLE FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE AGREEING THAT THIS PARTICULAR RULE WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE COUNCIL MOVING FORWARD. AND AS SUCH, I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A YES VOTE TONIGHT TO CHANGE THE RULES. VOTE FROM 14 TO 18 MOVING FORWARD AFTER TONIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS? I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER. I DO HAVE A QUESTION I. YOU HAVE THE FULL PRICE, RIGHT? THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, FOR BRINGING THIS FORTH. I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF COUNCIL RULES THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS, ESPECIALLY AS WE DEAL WITH BECOMING NONPARTISAN. I JUST I'M NOT SOLD ON THIS BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE TO GET SOMETHING PASSED. WE ALREADY HAVE A PEOPLE. WE HAVE GROUPS THAT ARE ALREADY VOTING IN THE BLOCK. AND WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO VOTE ACROSS THE BOARD. I JUST WANT TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THE SIGNIFICANCE OF MOVING IT FROM 14 TO 18, BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE BIPARTISAN EFFORTS ALREADY HAPPENING, PEOPLE VOTING IN A BLOCK. AND I'M JUST AND BLAME IT ON ME BEING NEW. I'M NOT AFRAID TO SAY IF I DON'T KNOW SOMETHING, IF I'M NOT SURE OF THAT. BUT BEFORE I SUPPORT THIS, I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT'S THE REAL SIGNIFICANCE. WHY DOES THAT NEED TO HAPPEN? BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE ALREADY VOTING THE WAY THEY CHOOSE TO, BIPARTISAN OR NOT, AND GROUPS ARE ALREADY VOTING IN A BLOCK. AND THEN WE HAVE OTHER PEOPLE WHO VOTE WITH THOSE GROUPS THAT VOTE IN THE BLOCK. SO I'M TRYING TO SEE WHAT THE SIGNIFICANCE IS. HAVE THE FLOOR. MADAM PRESIDENT PRO TEM, I THINK THE SIGNIFICANCE IS THIS. YOU ARE CORRECT. THERE ARE PARTIZAN POLITICS DOWN HERE. AND RIGHT NOW THOSE PARTIZAN POLITICS ARE 13 DEMOCRATS, ONE INDEPENDENT AND 12 REPUBLICANS. IT'S A NARROW MARGIN. PEOPLE DO VOTE IN BLOCKS AND AT THE END OF THE DAY IS THIS IS WITH SUCH TIGHT MARGINS. ONE PARTICULAR BLOCK COULD BRING ILL WILL UPON THE RULES ON ANOTHER PARTICULAR BLOCK. AND SO BY INCREASING THE VOTE MARGIN TO REQUIRED OF 18, IT WOULD TAKE A SUPERMAJORITY OF THIS METRO COUNCIL. AND SO THUS BEING THE RULES CANNOT BE USED AGAINST ONE PARTY OR THE OTHER. IT CAN'T BE USED AGAINST ONE BLOCK OR THE OTHER TO TRY TO MANIPULATE THE PROCESS. THE RULES, IN ESSENCE, BECOME AN ESSENCE, SACRED, SACRED. IN ORDER TO CHANGE THOSE RULES. IT WOULD TAKE 18 PEOPLE ON THIS COUNCIL, AND IF 18 PEOPLE CAN AGREE THE RULE NEEDS TO BE CHANGED, THEN THERE'S A DAMN GOOD CHANCE THAT RULE NEEDS TO BE CHANGED. AND THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THIS VOTE. I HOPE I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION. IF NOT, PLEASE ASK ANOTHER QUESTION. YOU ANSWERED IT. JUST ONE LAST PART OF THIS. SO RIGHT NOW THE SUPERMAJORITY IS USED. SAY FOR INSTANCE, FOR SPECIAL OCCASIONS.

IS THIS BRINGING EVERYTHING TO THAT ACCORD? BECAUSE I REMEMBER THERE WAS SOMETHING WE HAD TO DO AS A COUNCIL. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS SOMETHING ETHICS THING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND IT REQUIRED A SUPERMAJORITY FOR THAT. IS THIS IS THIS BRINGING IN EVERYTHING INTO ALIGNMENT? BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE A LOT OF ILL WILL STILL HAPPEN WITH 14 VOTES. SO I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT. MADAM PRESIDENT PRO TEM, CAN I ANSWER THAT? YES. THE PURPOSE OF THIS

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I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A TENSION BETWEEN THE ARGUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THIS IS A BRAND NEW DAY ON THE METRO COUNCIL, WITH THESE, WITH THE NEXT ELECTION CYCLE BEING NONPARTISAN. AND YET WE HAVE MAINTAINED THE MAJORITY IN THE MINORITY CAUCUS STRUCTURE INTENTIONALLY BY STATE LAW, WHEN THE NEW METRO COUNCIL LEADERSHIP WAS ANNOUNCED, IT WAS STRESSED THAT THE PURPOSE OF METRO COUNCIL IS INHERENTLY NOT PARTIZAN, THAT THE BUSINESS OF METRO COUNCIL IS PAVING ROADS, I BELIEVE, WAS THE WORDS THAT PRESIDENT AKERSON USED. BUT THIS SPEAKS TO A HYPER PARTIZANSHIP THAT WE NEED TO BE CONCERNED THAT IF ONE CAUCUS WERE TO LOSE THE MAJORITY STANDING, THAT IT HAS HAD SINCE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE COUNCIL, THAT THAT THIS RAISES A NEW CONCERN. AND SO I GUESS I WOULD DEFINITELY BE INTERESTED IN HEARING FROM MEMBERS OF THE MINORITY CAUCUS THEIR POSITION ON THIS RULE CHANGE. I DO FEEL AS SOMEONE WHO, YOU KNOW, HAS, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS PERHAPS I'M A MEMBER OF THE ON PAPER MAJORITY CAUCUS, AND I DEFINITELY HAVE I THINK EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM UNDERSTANDS A MINORITY POLITICAL POSITION. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, THE RIGHTS OF AT LEAST A BARE MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL PRESERVED, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE GOING TO BE MAKING A RULE CHANGE THAT, YOU KNOW, WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE UNDONE BY THE NEXT BODY BY A SIMPLE MAJORITY VOTE. SO I, I PERSONALLY AM UNCONVINCED. I DO PLAN TO VOTE NO. I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO HEAR FROM MEMBERS OF THE OTHER CAUCUS ON THIS ISSUE. THANK YOU. I'M I'M. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. OKAY. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. PRO TEM. SO GLADLY. I'LL. I'LL INDULGE MY COLLEAGUES REQUEST TO HEAR FROM MEMBERS OF THE MINORITY CAUCUS. BLUNTLY, WHEN PRESIDENT AKERSON APPROACHED ME ABOUT WANTING TO MAKE THE RULE CHANGE, IF I'M BEING SKEPTICAL AND PARTIZAN, I WOULD SAY I FIND IT FASCINATING THAT THE MOMENT MY CAUCUS GETS THIS HIGHEST NUMBER IT'S EVER BEEN, WITHIN ONE VOTE OF BEING IN THE MAJORITY, HE WANTS TO CHANGE IT TO A SUPERMAJORITY IN ORDER TO CHANGE RULES. OKAY, SO THERE WAS THAT PART OF ME THAT'S LIKE, IF I'M GOING TO BE SUPER PARTIZAN, I HAVE THAT CONCERN. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK I KNOW MY COLLEAGUE TO NOT HAVE THAT THAT WAS NOT GOING THROUGH HIS MIND AND THAT HE DOES BELIEVE KNOWING HIM FOR AS MANY YEARS AS I HAVE NOW, THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS ON THIS COUNCIL THAT SHOULD TRANSCEND PARTIZANSHIP, AND ONE OF THEM SHOULD BE THE RULES. AND WE HAVE SEEN. YOU KNOW, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT, A FEW OF THEM HERE THAT DO REQUIRE A SUPERMAJORITY CALLING THE QUESTION IS ONE OF THEM.

WHY? BECAUSE CALLING THE QUESTION STOPS DEBATE. IT ELIMINATES PEOPLE'S ABILITY TO TALK. AND WHO WHO ARE ELECTED, DULY ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES OF THEIR CONSTITUENCY. SO IT MAKES IT IMPORTANT THAT A SIMPLE MAJORITY BY ITSELF CAN'T DO THAT. THERE HAVE BEEN FORMER

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SINCE THIS IS YOURS, WE COULD DO THAT. JUST A SUGGESTION. LET'S. I'M GOING TO RELIEVE IT AGAIN AT THE REQUEST OF COUNCILMAN KRAMER. ALL RIGHT. CLARK, YOU WANT TO CALL THE. WE CAN DO A ROLL CALL. VOTE, PLEASE. VOTING IS OPEN. COUNCILMAN PARRISH. RIGHT. PRESENT. YES, COUNCILMAN RENA WEBBER, I. YEAH, I VOTED. OH, WELL, NO, I'M IN THE WRONG SEAT. YES, YES.

YES. CLOSING. MADAM PRO TEM, YOU HAVE 22. YES. VOTES. TWO NO, AND ONE PRESENT. ALRIGHT. THE RESOLUTION PASSES. AND YOU NEVER SEE BACK. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. AND I'M BACK IN THE

[47. O-136-25     AN ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING $2,000 FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER: $2,000 FROM DISTRICT 4; THROUGH THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET, TO THE COALITION FOR THE HOMELESS, INC. FOR COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE STAND DOWN/PROJECT HOMELESS CONNECT EVENT. 7/23/25 Appropriations Committee  Recommended for Approval 6/18/25 Appropriations Committee  Held Action Required By: December 12, 2025 Sponsors: Ken Herndon (D-4) ]

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SO WE ACTUALLY NEED ALL OF THAT TO BE STATED INTO THE RECORD. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN CHAPPELL, ARE YOU ARE YOU DONE OR DO YOU WANT TO ADD SHE'S ADDED 1000. FANTASTIC. I'M GOING TO GO WITH COUNCILWOMAN SHANKLIN IS GOING TO BE NEXT TO MY QUEUE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WANT TO ADD 250 NEXT. I'VE GOT COUNCILWOMAN RUBY. I'M ON THERE FOR 1000. ALSO, I HAVE COUNCILWOMAN PURVIS 500 FROM DISTRICT FIVE. COUNCILWOMAN RAYMOND 500 FROM DISTRICT TEN, PLEASE. COUNCILMAN OWEN, MAKE SURE DISTRICT NINE IS ON THE RECORD FOR 1000, PLEASE. YOUR HONOR, AM I ON THAT? CAN ANYONE ELSE? I GOT NO ONE ELSE IN MY QUEUE. ANYONE ELSE? JP? MR. CHAIR, ACTUALLY. OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN PARRISH. RIGHT.

YOU'RE UP. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I, I WANT TO DONATE, BUT I HAVE NOT GOTTEN THE ETHICS OPINION BACK, AND I'VE BEEN WAITING ON THE ON THAT OPINION FROM LAST YEAR. SO AS A BOARD MEMBER OF THE COALITION, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS OKAY. I DON'T RECEIVE ANY FINANCIAL BENEFITS.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A STATEMENT THAT I WOULD LOVE TO SUPPORT, BUT I NEED TO GET THE OPINION TO BE ABLE TO DO IT. SO I'LL DO IT BY NEXT YEAR, HOPEFULLY. LET'S HOLD ON HERE.

WE GOT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IN HERE. LET'S LET'S GET THEM UP HERE AND GIVE US AN OPINION ON THAT, MADAM. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEP. THANK YOU ALL. ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY AMANDA BAKER, FOR THE RECORD. SO PURSUANT TO LOUISVILLE METRO CODE OF ORDINANCE 21 02B, IT STATES THAT NO METRO OFFICER SHALL ACT IN HIS OR HER OFFICIAL CAPACITY IN ANY MATTER WHERE AN OFFICER MEMBER OF HIS OR HER, OR OF HIS OR HER FAMILY, OR A BUSINESS ORGANIZATION IN WHICH THAT OFFICER HAS A FINANCIAL INTEREST OR PRIVATE INTEREST, MAY REASONABLY BE EXPECTED TO IMPAIR HIS OR HER OBJECTIVITY OR INDEPENDENCE OR JUDGMENT. THAT BEING SAID, THIS MAY FALL WITHIN THE EXCEPTION OF 21.02 I, SO LONG AS NOTICE HAS BEEN GIVEN IN WRITING TO THE ETHICS COMMISSION AND TO THE METRO COUNCIL CLERK. SO THE QUESTION, COUNCILWOMAN PARRISH RIGHT, IS THIS IS YOU'VE LISTED THIS BOARD POSITION ON YOUR ETHICS, RIGHT? SO IN MY OPINION, BASED UPON WHAT THE LAWYERS THERE HAVE SAID, ME BEING A LAWYER, AND I WOULD SAY THAT YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO DONATE IF YOU'D LIKE BECAUSE YOU PUT IT OUT THERE. PLEASE NOTE THAT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS NOT THE FINAL. IT IS NOT BINDING ADVICE FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE THAT WOULD REQUIRE AN ETHICS OPINION. I THINK YOU'VE GOT THE ABILITY TO DO IT, MADAM. AND I DID REQUEST THE EXPERT'S OPINION LAST YEAR, MR. CHAIR, AND I DID AGAIN. AND I ASKED THE COUNTY ATTORNEYS LAST YEAR. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M GOOD TO DO THIS. AND YES. SO WITH THAT SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO CONTRIBUTE $1,000 TOWARDS THIS. THANK YOU, MADAM AND MR. PRESIDENT, CAN I STATE THE OTHER CONTRIBUTIONS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY PLEASE? OKAY. OKAY. SO WE ALSO HAVE $1,000 FROM DISTRICT SEVEN, $1,000 FROM DISTRICT EIGHT, $500 FROM DISTRICT 13, $250 FROM DISTRICT 16, $500 FROM DISTRICT 17, $250 FROM DISTRICT 20, AND $1,000 FROM DISTRICT 24. OKAY. THAT'S IT. I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN HAWKINS. YOUR NEXT TO MY Q 1000 FROM DISTRICT ONE. COUNCILWOMAN BASS, YOU'RE NEXT TO MY Q 500 FROM DISTRICT 14. ANYONE ELSE? JP, YOU'RE UP 500 FROM DISTRICT SIX. ANYONE ELSE? MADAM CLERK, WHAT IS OUR WHAT'S. COUNCILMAN

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ALRIGHT. CAN I GET A MOTION FOR THE AMENDED VERSION OF THIS? GOT A SECOND ITEM? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDED AMOUNTS FOR THIS ORDINANCE SAY AYE. IN OPPOSITION HEARING NO OPPOSITION, WE NOW HAVE THE AMENDED VERSION BEFORE US SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE OPEN THIS FOR A ROLL CALL. VOTE. VOTE. IT'S OPEN. COUNCIL MEMBER. PARISH RIGHT. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. MARINO WEBER I. COUNCILMEMBER. RAYMOND. YES. COUNCILMEMBER.

SYME. YES. VOTE IS CLOSING. PRESIDENT HERE 25. YES. VOTES. THE ORDINANCE PASSES. THE NEXT

[48. O-147-25     AN ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING $3,500 $4,500 FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER: $3,000 FROM DISTRICT 21; $1,000 FROM DISTRICT 8; AND $500 FROM DISTRICT 15; THROUGH THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET, TO BEECHMONT PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH, INC. FOR COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE HEALTHY FAMILIES WALKING TOGETHER PROJECT (AS AMENDED). 7/23/25 Appropriations Committee  Amended; Recommended for Approval 6/18/25 Appropriations Committee  Held Action Required By: December 12, 2025 Sponsors: Betsy Ruhe (D-21), Jennifer Chappell (D-15), Ben Reno-Weber (D-8)]

YOU ALL MAY REMEMBER DURING COVID WHEN THEY ESTABLISHED THE LEARNING HUBS FOR STUDENTS WHO WERE NOT BEING SUCCESSFUL DURING VIRTUAL LEARNING, AND THAT INCLUDED A LOT OF CHILDREN OF IMMIGRANT FAMILIES. AND SO THEY WERE GIVEN THE BEECHMONT PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH WAS GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRODUCE ONE OF THOSE HUBS, AND THEY HAVE CONTINUED IT AS ESQUELETO. SO THEY'RE USING THAT AS A VENUE TO WORK WITH STUDENTS ON THEIR ACADEMICS AND THEIR SOCIAL EMOTIONAL SKILLS. AND ALTHOUGH IT IS SPONSORED BY BEECHMONT PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH, THEY ARE UNDER NO OBLIGATION OR EXPECTATION TO BE A MEMBER OF THAT CHURCH. MOST OF THEM ARE NOT, BUT THEY DO GO THERE FOR AND FIVE DAYS A WEEK FOR SERVICES TO HELP WITH THEIR EDUCATION. AND I'VE GOT SOME REALLY GOOD DATA HERE ON KIDS WHO HAVE GONE UP BY ALMOST AN ENTIRE YEAR. IN A FEW MONTHS WORTH OF INTERVENTIONS, AND STUDENTS WHOSE SOCIAL SKILLS HAVE IMPROVED CONSIDERABLY. AND THE FAMILIES WALKING TOGETHER PROGRAM IS DESIGNED TO HELP THE FAMILIES WITH SOCIAL SKILLS AND MENTAL HEALTH. SO THEY'RE ASKING FOR MONEY FROM US TODAY TO HELP TO HELP CONTINUE THAT JOURNEY FOR THESE STUDENTS AS THEY STRUGGLE TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN JEFFERSON COUNTY SCHOOLS. SOMEONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE? I'VE GOT NO ONE. HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH WERE YOU ASKING FOR? 10,000. 40,000? ASK US 10,000. WE'RE AT 4500. MR. CHAIR, IF I CAN. YES, MA'AM. YOU'VE GOT THE FLOOR, COUNCILMAN PARRISH. RIGHT. ARE YOU ALL. I'M ON VACATION. I DON'T HAVE THE TABLET WITH ME, SO I'M SORRY TO KEEP CHIMING IN LIKE THIS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO CONTRIBUTE 1300 FROM DISTRICT THREE, PLEASE. THANK YOU. WE'VE GOT 1300. THAT TAKES US TO 5800. AND 500 FROM DISTRICT NINE, PLEASE. THAT'S 6300 OF THE 10,000. ASK ANYONE ELSE. IN DISTRICT TWO. COUNCILMAN BRATCHER 22. COUNCILMAN REED 500 FROM DISTRICT 16. ANYONE ELSE? DISTRICT TWO. COUNCILMAN CHAPMAN SAYS 500. 500. ANYONE ELSE? I DIDN'T HEAR YOU. WHAT DO YOU SAY? I DON'T KNOW, WHAT'S THAT? WHAT'S THE TOTAL AT RIGHT NOW? IT IS. 7800 7000. SO 2200 OFF 500 FROM DISTRICT ONE. 1700 OFF. DO YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE IN THE

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COUNCIL MEMBER. WEBER. HI. COUNCIL MEMBER. HERNDON. VOTING IS CLOSING. CHRISTIAN ERIKSEN, YOU HAD 25 YES VOTES. THE ORDINANCE PASSES. MADAM CLERK. READING ITEM 49, PLEASE. ITEM

[49. O-157-25     AN ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING $5,000 FROM NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER: $5,000 FROM DISTRICT 1; THROUGH THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET, TO THE D’ANGELO RUSSELL FOUNDATION CORP. FOR COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THEIR SECOND ANNUAL D’ANGELO RUSSELL DAY EVENT AT ALGONQUIN PARK. 7/23/25 Appropriations Committee  Recommended for Approval 6/18/25 Appropriations Committee  Held Action Required By: December 12, 2025 Sponsors: Tammy Hawkins (D-1) ]

RIGHT. YOU'VE GOT MY FLOOR AT THE MOMENT. COUNCILWOMAN SHANKLIN'S NEXT. ALL RIGHT, I'LL DO 700. COUNCIL SHANKLIN 500 FROM DISTRICT TWO. COUNCILWOMAN PURVIS, 500 FROM DISTRICT FIVE.

ANYONE ELSE? 250 FROM NINE. I DO, 500 FROM DISTRICT FOUR, PLEASE. ANYONE ELSE? TWO 5024.

ANYONE ELSE? COUNCILMAN REED 250 FROM DISTRICT 16. 250 FROM 14. ANYONE ELSE? 250 FROM 12 250 FROM 1250 FROM 22. COUNCILMAN BRATCHER 250. ANYONE? COUNCILMAN SON TWO 5013. 17 250. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. CAN I GET A MOTION FOR THE AMENDED VERSION? FOR ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDED VERSION, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSITION? HEARING NO OPPOSITION THAT PASSES. NOW WE HAVE THE AMENDED VERSION BEFORE US. LET'S DO A ROLL CALL. VOTE ON THAT, PLEASE. COUNCIL MEMBER PARRISH. RIGHT. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. WEBER. AYE. ODIN'S CLOSING. PRESIDENT ANDERSON, YOU HAVE 25 YES VOTES. THE ORDINANCE IS ADOPTED. THE NEXT ITEM, MADAM CLERK, ITEM 50, PLEASE. ITEM 15

[50. NDF072325FSH02     APPROPRIATING $1,000 FROM NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER: $1,000 FROM DISTRICT 2, THROUGH THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET, TO FAMILY SCHOLAR HOUSE, INC. FOR THEIR ANNUAL PACK A BACKPACK BASH SCHEDULED FOR JULY 28 - AUGUST 1, 2025 AT THEIR FIVE LOUISVILLE AREA CAMPUSES. 7/23/25 Appropriations Committee  Recommend for Approval Sponsors: Barbara Shanklin (D-2) ]

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NOPE. I'M I'M ON THE WRONG TO SAY NO. YEAH. I'M NOT. I CAN'T GET IN THE QUEUE. CAN'T GET IN EITHER. I GOT OKAY, WE'VE UPDATED. I'VE GOT COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL IN THE QUEUE, 250 FROM 15. COUNCILMAN OWEN 259. COUNCILWOMAN RUBY TWO 5021. COUNCILOR HARDIN 1000 FROM DISTRICT FOUR. COUNCILOR HOPKINS THOUSAND FROM DISTRICT ONE. MR. CHAIR, THERE'S A BALANCE OUT.

HOW MUCH IS LEFT? I THINK IT'S 12 ONE $1,250. 1250 OKAY, WE CAN DO THAT. DID I HEAR YOU CORRECTLY? YOU'RE GOING TO GO FOR THE FULL 1250? YES, SIR. ALRIGHT. LET'S PUT THIS AT THE ASKING POINT. THIS IS GOING TO REQUIRE A VOICE VOTE. DO I GET A MOTION? AND SECOND, I'M PROPER FOR ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. THE AMENDED VERSION. ANY OPPOSITION? HEARING NO OPPOSITION. THAT THE AMENDED VERSIONS BEFORE US. IT REQUIRES A ROLL CALL. VOTE. MADAM CLERK, OPEN THE ROLL. MR. PRESIDENT, WE CAN ACTUALLY DO A VOICE VOTE ON THIS ONE. IT'S AN NDA. ALRIGHT, SO LET'S DO A VOICE VOTE THEN. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSITION HEARING? NO OPPOSITION PASSES. IT'S ADOPTED. OKAY, MADAM CLERK, A READING ITEM 51, ITEM 51, AN ORDINANCE

[51. O-159-25     AN ORDINANCE OF THE LOUISVILLE/ JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE ANNEXATION BY THE CITY OF INDIAN HILLS OF A TRACT OF LAND KNOWN AS OLD FEDERAL ROAD, CONTIGUOUS TO THE PRESENT BOUNDARY OF SAID CITY BUT NOT CONTIGUOUS TO THE BOUNDARY OF THE FORMER CITY OF LOUISVILLE, AND BEING IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF THE FORMER COUNTY OF JEFFERSON (AS AMENDED). 7/22/25 Government Oversight/Audit and Appointments Committee  Amended: Recommended for Approval Action Required By: December 26, 2025 Sponsors: Scott Reed (R-16) ]

READING. FOOL, I'M SWAPPING FOR COUNCIL PURPOSE. THIS CAME OUT OF YOUR COMMITTEE. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, MADAM. THANK YOU. PRESIDENT. COUNCILMAN REED IS A SPONSOR OF THE FLOOR. HAS BEEN TAILORED TO YOU. THANK YOU, I HEARD YOU. I'M SORRY, COUNCILWOMAN, I HEARD YOU. NO.

THAT'S FINE. SO THIS IS THE CITY OF INDIAN HILLS, WHICH IS IN DISTRICT 16, ANNEXING 13 HOMES.

AND BY STATE LAW, METRO COUNCIL CANNOT VOTE TO DENY THIS. BUT WE STILL HAVE TO MAKE A, I GUESS, A VOTE OUT OF JUST PROCESS TO FORWARD THIS. AND I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW THAT WORKS, BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'VE DONE THIS, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. SO THEY DID MEET ALL THE CRITERIAOR ANNEXATION. HAVING A CONTINUOUS CONTIGUOUS ROAD, THE NUMBER OF SIGNATURES THAT HAD TO BE MET. ET CETERA. ET CETERA. SO IF SOMEBODY HAS A QUESTION ABOUT THE PROCESS AND THE REASONING BEHIND US NOT HAVING THE WHEREWITHAL TO NOT VOTE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ASK THE COUNTY ATTORY WHO'S HERE. ANYONE HAVE ANY QUEIONS FOR NONE. THIS IS GOING TO BE AN ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRES A ROLL THE WRONG ITEM. THAT MAY BE MY FAULT, MR. PRESIDENT. I MAY HAVE THE FLOOR. IF I'M NOT WRONG, YOU'VE GOT THE FLOOR, REGARDLESS OF MY QUEUE OR NOT. THANK YOU. AND I APPRECIATE THE EXPLANATION, COUNCILMAN REED.

AND YOU MAY NOT KNOW. I BELIEVE YOU DO, THOUGH YOU SAID 13 HOUSEHOLDS. WHAT WAS THE VOTE

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[52. O-087-25     AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTIONS 123.01 THROUGH 123.06, AND SECTIONS 123.32, 123.35, 123.37 AND 123.99, AND CREATING A NEW SECTION OF CHAPTER 123 OF THE LOUISVILLE METRO CODE OF ORDINANCES (“LMCO”) REGARDING REGULATED PROPERTY AND RESTRICTED METALS. (AMENDMENT BY SUBSTITUTION) 6/26/25 Metro Council  Held 6/12/25 Metro Council  Held 6/4/25 Public Safety Committee Amended; Recommended for Approval 5/7/25 Public Safety Committee Amended; Tabled 4/16/25 Public Safety Committee Held Action Required By: September 27, 2025 Sponsors: Kevin Kramer (R-11) ]

YES. MAY I SUGGEST THAT WE HEAR FROM THE SPONSOR? CAN I CAN I ASK THAT WE THROW THIS TO COUNCILMAN KRAMER TO FOR HIS FIRST AMENDMENT? ABSOLUTELY. COUNCILMAN KRAMER, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, SIR. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I'D POINT OUT TO MY COLLEAGUES THAT THIS ITEM WAS ORIGINALLY BEFORE US BACK ON JUNE 12TH. IT CAME OUT OF COMMITTEE WITH A FAVORABLE FAVORABLE VOTE. ON THE EVENING OF THE 12TH, THERE WAS TO BE ANOTHER VOTE. THE POLICE. THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT SOME OF WHAT WAS IN THERE. THE POLICE ASKED IF WE WOULD HOLD IT AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL, AND THEN IT WAS AGAIN BEFORE US ON THE 26TH, WHICH WAS THE SAME NIGHT WE VOTE ON THE BUDGET. AND SO I ASKED THAT WE HOLD IT THAT NIGHT SO WE COULD TAKE CARE OF A FEW THINGS IN THE INTERIM BETWEEN THE TIME THAT THAT AN ORDINANCE PASSED BUT WAS ASKED TO BE HELD. AND TONIGHT I HAD A CHANCE TO WORK TOGETHER WITH THE SCRAP INDUSTRY AS WELL AS THE TELECOM INDUSTRY.

AND WE MADE SOME CHANGES. I SO I BEFORE US TONIGHT IS A FLOOR AMENDMENT THAT INCLUDES CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE SINCE WE WERE HERE LAST. OH, AND BY THE WAY, IF YOU'RE IN YOUR SYSTEM AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT ATTACHMENTS, THE ITEM THAT'S BEFORE US RIGHT NOW IS 0827 25 PROPOSED FLOOR AMENDMENT BY SUBSTITUTION. IT'S THE FIRST THING ON THE LIST. SO IF YOU WANT TO OPEN IT TO THERE, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. THIS IS THE ORDINANCE THAT THAT WAS BEFORE THE COUNCIL THAT WAS HELD TO THE COUNCIL LEVEL WITH THESE THESE MINOR CHANGE WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER MINOR CHANGES ON PAGE TWO, INFRASTRUCTURE WIRING IS NOW NOW EXPRESSLY EXCLUDES HOUSEHOLD CORDS AND CABLES WITH A POWER SOURCE CONNECTOR, CHRISTMAS LIGHTS, ETHERNET CABLE, THINGS LIKE THAT. THE INDUSTRY POINTED OUT, QUITE RIGHTLY, THAT THE WAY WE TALKED ABOUT WIRING, IT SOUNDED LIKE LIKE IF YOU TAKE YOUR CHRISTMAS LIGHTS IN. AND SO THAT'S NOT WHAT WE MEANT. SO WE CHANGED THE LANGUAGE TO REFLECT THAT. ON PAGE FOUR, THERE'S A TECHNICAL CHANGE TO MOVE PLACEMENT OF INFRASTRUCTURE WIRING IN THE LIST INTO THE LIST OF REGULATED PROPERTY, SO THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE WIRE WOULD NOT BE INADVERTENTLY INCLUDED IN WHERE IT WORN OUT. FAIR SCRAP LATER ON ON PAGE FIVE, WHEN THE LAST TIME THE INDUSTRY AND I SPOKE, I MADE IT CLEAR TO THEM AND WAS STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THERE WAS LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT SAID THAT THERE WAS AN EXEMPTION FOR AN ITEM, WHICH THE HIGHEST VALUE WAS A SCRAP. THE PROBLEM IS, IF

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AND AGAIN I SENT OUT A MESSAGE TO THE TO THE FOLK TO THE SCRAP INDUSTRY. LET THEM KNOW WE HAD ORIGINALLY SETTLED ON $75 AS A LICENSE FEE. THAT NUMBER DIDN'T. IT WASN'T BASED ON ANYTHING. I HAD ASKED THE CODES AND REGULATIONS LIKE WHAT A FEE SHOULD BE, AND THE FEE THEY CAME BACK WITH WAS A VERY HIGH LICENSE FEE. IT REFLECTED LIKE PAWNSHOPS AND JEWELRY. I DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS A VERY APPROPRIATE FEE, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT 625 IS THE SAME FEE THAT WE USE FOR SECONDHAND DEALERS. SO THAT FEE, AT LEAST IT MATCHES UP WITH IT SEEMS REASONABLE. SO WE'VE WE'VE PAIRED THAT. SO THAT'S THAT'S BEING CHANGED ON PAGE TEN THERE'S A TECHNICAL CHANGE TO CONVERT TO CONFORM LICENSE PLATE COLLECTION DATA TO LANGUAGE FROM CRTS. AND ON PAGE TEN, THERE'S ALSO A TECHNICAL CHANGE TO ENSURE THAT VEHICLE SCRAPPING INFORMATION COLLECTED STAYS THE SAME. SO THOSE ARE THE CHANGES THAT THAT ARE IN THE FLOOR AMENDMENT THAT I'M PROPOSING TONIGHT. AGAIN, I TRIED TO WORK WITH EVERYBODY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE KIND OF ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. I DID HOLD THIS AT ONE POINT AT THE REQUEST OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD GET BACK TOGETHER AND HASH OUT SOME THINGS. AND SO AFTER COMMUNICATIONS WITH EVERYONE, THIS WAS THE ORDINANCE THAT I FELT LIKE I COULD, IN GOOD CONSCIENCE PUT MY NAME ON WITH ALL THE WORK THAT HAD BEEN DONE. AND SO I'M ASKING COLLEAGUES, PLEASE, FOR A VOTE ON THIS TONIGHT. AGAIN, IT'S ALREADY BEEN POSTPONED A COUPLE OF TIMES. I'M REALLY HOPING THAT WE CAN GET A YES VOTE. THANK YOU. MOTION SECOND. GUESS WHAT TIME YOUR MY CUE. YOU'RE ON THE FLOOR. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I'D LIKE TO OFFER AN AMENDMENT, AND I'VE ASKED COUNTY ATTORNEY. POINT OF ORDER. MR. PRESIDENT. CAN WE GET A VOTE ON THIS ON THE FLOOR AMENDMENT FIRST. YOU WANT TO GET THE AMENDMENT BEFORE US? YES, PLEASE. LET'S DO THAT FIRST. COUNSELOR. ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? YEP. I'M GOOD. SORT OF CLEAN HOUSE ON IT. ALL RIGHT, SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT SAY AYE? AYE. IN OPPOSITION, HEARING NO OPPOSITION, WE NOW HAVE THE AMENDED VERSION BEFORE US, COUNCILMAN. SAM, THE FLOOR IS YOURS AGAIN, SIR. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I'D LIKE TO TURN THIS OVER TO COUNTY ATTORNEY ALICE LYONS TO EXPLAIN THIS AMENDMENT BROUGHT FORTH BY THE LMPD POLICE. THIS AMENDMENT IS IN YOUR SYSTEM, AND IT'S PROPOSED AS A FLOOR AMENDMENT TO THE FLOOR AMENDMENT BY SUBSTITUTION THAT YOU JUST ADOPTED, BECAUSE WE LOVE TO SAY THE WORDS FLOOR AMENDMENT OVER AND OVER. AND THIS VERSION DIFFERS FROM THE VERSION THAT COUNCIL MEMBER KRAMER PUT FORWARD BY. BY MAKING THE DEFINITION OF REGULATED PROPERTY THAT'S IN THIS BILL. AND RESTRICTED METALS, THEY GET THE SAME LEVEL OF REPORTING. THERE'S NOT A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ONE KIND OF RECYCLED MATERIAL AND ANOTHER IN TERMS OF THE INFORMATION THAT'S GATHERED WHEN THE SELLER BRINGS THAT IN. AND.

THERE'S ALSO A CHANGE. WHERE THERE WAS A PIECE THAT WAS STRICKEN, THAT WAS ABOUT REPORTING REQUIREMENT BEING UPLOADED AT 11 A.M. IN THE MORNING. THAT'S BEEN RESTORED.

AND WHEN LICENSE PLATE NUMBERS ARE MANUALLY ENTERED VERSUS JUST TAKING A PHOTO OF THEM, THAT'S ANOTHER ADDITION IN THE VERSION THAT THAT COUNCIL MEMBER SIMON IS PROPOSING. SO THOSE ARE THE KEY DIFFERENCES. MOTION. ALL RIGHT. WE'VE GOT THE MOTION BEFORE US FOR COUNCILMAN SIMON'S AMENDED VERSION. BUT I DO SEE COUNCIL. OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS AMENDMENT? NONE. THIS AMENDMENT REQUIRES A VOICE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSITION? ANY

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SO THAT'S IT. AND I JUST WANT TO COMMEND ALL THE WORK ON THIS AND LET YOU AND EXPLAIN MY VOTE.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU, MADAM COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. THANKS. WELL, FIRST, I WANT TO COMMEND MY COLLEAGUE, COUNCILMAN KRAMER, FOR PUTTING IN THE WORK TO DO THIS. I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR QUITE SOME TIME. I GOT A LOT OF CALLS FROM MY OFFICE JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY, THE SAFETY OF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE WAY GOING TO THE EAST END FROM THE WEST END OF IT BEING DARK ON THE EXPRESSWAYS. A LOT OF HOMICIDES WERE TAKING PLACE BECAUSE THEY KNEW IT WAS DARK, A LOT OF WRECKS. IT JUST IS A NUMBER ONE PRIORITY. I WILL BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS. MY ONLY CONCERN, I WILL SAY, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE BUSINESS OWNERS AND THE LEVEL OF FANS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET BECAUSE LMPD WILL NOT BE POLICING THIS. NOT SURE. YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, AFTER TALKING WITH COUNCILMAN KRAMER, IT WASN'T NOT THAT I DON'T THINK THAT HE'S TOTALLY AGAINST IT, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THEY WERE LIKE WITH HIM SHOOTING IN THE GYM, IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. WHEN I SAY WHEN I SAY THAT FROM THE BEGINNING OF THIS. RIGHT.

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MY CONSTITUENTS HAVE BEEN CRYING FOR LIGHTS, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S THE NUMBER ONE SAFETY PRIORITY IS FOR US TO HAVE LIGHTS ON OUR EXPRESSWAYS. YOU KNOW, AND I THINK I WAS TOLD ONCE BEFORE THAT IT WAS STATE I NEED TO CONTACT THE STATE LEVEL, YOU KNOW, THEN I COULDN'T GET ANY HELP WITH THAT. SO I WILL BE IN SUPPORT WITH THIS. WITH THIS. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? ANOTHER COUNCILMAN, RENA WEBBER, IS EXCITED ABOUT THE COPPER PIRATES GETTING BUSTED. OKAY, THERE'S A SMILE THERE. A SCOURGE ON OUR CITY. THERE WE GO. OTHER THAN THAT, ANYONE ELSE? WE CAN KEEP JP HERE LONGER? GET HIM IN TROUBLE ON HIS ANNIVERSARY. NO TAKERS? ALRIGHT. NO ONE ELSE IS IN THE QUEUE. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRES A ROLL CALL. VOTE. MADAM CLERK, OPEN THE ROLL. COUNCIL MEMBER. PERISH. RIGHT. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER, RENA WEBBER I. OKAY. I DON'T KNOW OPPONENTS CLOSING. PRESIDENT ERICKSON, YOU HAVE ONE PRESENT. ONE. NO. AND 23 YES VOTES. YES. THE ORDER IS ADOPTED. COUNCILMAN KRAMER, CONGRATULATIONS. NEXT WILL BE

[53. O-132-25     AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE LOUISVILLE METRO CODE OF ORDINANCES (“LMCO”) CHAPTER 51 REGARDING PENALTY ENHANCEMENT FOR ILLEGAL DUMPING (AMENDMENT BY SUBSTITUTION). 7/23/25 Public Safety Committee  Amended; Recommended for Approval 6/18/25 Public Safety Committee Held Action Required By:  December 12, 2025 Sponsors: Dan Seum, Jr. (R-13), Jonathan “JJ” Joseph (R-12), Crystal Bast (R-14), Kevin Bratcher (R-22), Ginny Mulvey-Woolridge (R-24), Shameka Parrish-Wright (D-3)]

HOW DO WE HANDLE THAT? WELL, LET'S DO THIS. WHY DON'T YOU TELL US ABOUT THE BILL AND THEN TELL US WHAT THE AMENDMENT IS? WE'LL HAVE IT READ IN THE RECORD, AND THEN WE WILL VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT, AND THEN PUT THE AMENDED VERSION BEFORE US FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION. WILL THAT WORK? IF YOU WANT, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO IT? ABSOLUTELY. RIGHT NOW WE'RE TRYING TO INCREASE FINES FOR ILLEGAL DUMPING. IT HAS BEEN AN ISSUE IN MY DISTRICT SINCE I'VE BEEN A COUNCILMAN.

SEEMS LIKE NOTHING'S WORKING, BUT FINDING THESE FOLKS AND TAKING THEIR VEHICLES, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, IS ENHANCE THESE PENALTIES, AND I. I'M ASKING FOR YOU TO HELP ME ON THIS ORDINANCE. MY UNDERSTANDS WE'VE GOT AN AMENDMENT TO THIS ORDINANCE, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR. I PRESUME THE COUNTY ATTORNEY IS GOING TO READ THE AMENDMENT. I CAN'T TELL IF THIS IS. CAN YOU HEAR ME? WE CAN HEAR YOU, ROBBIE HOWARD, THE JEFFERSON COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AMENDMENT, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE AMENDMENT BY SUBSTITUTION OR THE ARE WE DOING AMENDMENT BY SUBSTITUTION? IS THAT WHAT WE'VE GOT, OR JUST ARE WE AMENDING THE PRESENT ORDINANCE OR AMENDING AMENDING THE CHANGE? IS THIS WHAT WE'RE OKAY. THE CHANGE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WOULD BE INCREASING THE PENALTIES FOR A FIRST OFFENSE FROM $500 TO $100, FOR A SECOND OFFENSE, FROM $1000 TO $2000 FOR A THIRD OFFENSE, FROM $2000 TO $3000. DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR THAT? SECOND AMENDMENT IS BEFORE US. LET'S DO A VOTE FOR THE TO GET THE AMENDED VERSION BEFORE US. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSITION HEARING? NO OPPOSITION. NOW WE HAVE THE AMENDED VERSION BEFORE US. LET ME GET IN MY QUEUE. ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK TO NOW THE AMENDED VERSION? JJ YOU WANT TO. YOU GOT IT. YES. THANK YOU. WE'RE THIS KIND OF STEMMED FROM AND I KNOW THAT IT WAS IT'S JUST SOME NUMBERS THAT I'VE ASKED TO BE CHANGED. WE SAT DOWN WITH SOME INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE BEEN IMPACTED BY ILLEGAL DUMPING, BUT ALSO THAT HAVE BEEN DOING IT LEGALLY. AND THEY VOICED THE $500 AMOUNT FROM THE FIRST TIME IS NOT CONSIDERED. WELL. THE RISK REWARD IS VERY LOW. SO IF SOMEONE IS GOING TO DO IT, A $500 MAY NOT STOP THEM FOR WHAT THEY CAN GET ON THE OTHER SIDE.

NOW, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I ALSO REALIZE THAT THIS LIKELY ISN'T THE FINAL DETERRENT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE PEOPLE NOT ILLEGAL. DUMP THAT. THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO COME IN THE FORM OF RESOURCES, MANPOWER, CAMERA AND WHATNOT. BUT THE HOPE IS THAT WE MAKE IT FINANCIALLY A BIGGER HIT THE FIRST TIME. AND THEN IF THEY DECIDE THAT THEY WANT TO COME BACK A SECOND AND THIRD TIME, THAT WE RAISE THAT UP TO KIND OF THE MAX WHERE WE CAN AT 2003 THOUSAND, I THINK WE SEND A STRONG MESSAGE HERE THAT THIS CITY IS NOT THE DUMPING GROUNDS OF BAD ACTORS IN THIS REGARD.

AND SO GOING HARDER THAN, THAN, THAN WHERE WE CAN FINANCIALLY. I JUST BELIEVE THAT TO BE WHERE WE

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IT IS. I MEAN, DOES IT DEPEND FINES UP TO OR IS IT FINES OR IS IT JUST CERTAIN AREAS I NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT DETERMINES THE FINE? IS IT THE AREA? WHAT IS IT? BECAUSE I'VE SEEN SOME SIGNS THAT SAY 250. SOME SIGNS MAY SAY 500, BUT I'VE ALSO SEEN FANS THAT ALSO SAY UP TO A THOUSAND.

I NEED TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY WHAT IS DUMPING IS DUMPING. RIGHT. SO I JUST KIND OF WANT TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY SOMEBODY, KIND OF GIVE ME A WHAT ARE THEY GOING BY, YOU KNOW. AND THAT IS WHAT I WANT TO KNOW. THAT DETERMINES THE FINE. NOT TO MENTION WE HAVE A SHORTAGE. AND THIS MAY BE SOMETHING THAT ONE OF MY OLDER COLLEAGUES ON COUNCIL CAN TELL ME, LIKE, DOES THIS DOES THE FINES GO BACK INTO THE POT BECAUSE WE HAVE A SHORTAGE OF CAMERAS, SO WE CAN'T EVEN CATCH THE BAD ACTORS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH CAMERAS TO CATCH THEM. THEY MOVE THEM AROUND FROM SPOT TO SPOT. SO I'M JUST A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN JUMP ON BOARD UNTIL I CAN GET SOME ANSWERS. FOR THOSE, DUMPING IS DUMPING, WHETHER IT'S IN THE EAST END, THE WEST END OR THE SOUTH END, AND WE NEED MORE ADEQUATE CAMERAS TO BE ABLE TO CATCH THESE BAD ACTORS. AND THAT IS WHY IT HAS GOTTEN SO WORSE. JJ OR DAN, YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAT? I SEE DONNA'S WAVING HER HAND. DONNA, YOU WANT TO JUMP IN? I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I WANTED TO BE ADDED AS A SPONSOR, BUT IF WE INCREASE THE FINES, WE CAN AFFORD TO GET SOME MORE CAMERAS. YEAH, BUT BACK TO HOLD ON HERE. BACK TO TAMMY'S QUESTION. DAN OR JJ, YOU WANT TO JUMP ON THAT ONE? YEAH. WHEN I SPOKE WITH PETE FLOOD YESTERDAY, WE WERE TOLD THAT THE MONEY THAT IS TAKEN OUT GOES BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND TO BE ABLE TO PUT IN TOWARDS RESOURCES. NOW AS OF LAST YEAR, I WAS ALSO TOLD THERE WAS A LESS, I THINK, LESS THAN 100 CASES OF INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE CAUGHT DUMPING. AND SO THE IDEA WAS THAT IT WOULD GO BACK, I BELIEVE, FROM WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD, INTO THE FUND TO BE ABLE TO HELP RESOURCE WISE. DAN. YEAH, AND IF WE HAVE SIGNS THAT THAT DOES NOT REFLECT THE NEW ORDINANCE, THEN WE NEED TO CHANGE THE SIGNS. IS THAT SIMPLE? BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THOSE SIGNS HAVE BEEN UP FOR IN REGARDS OF YEAH, THE IDEA. THAT'S A GOOD POINT, KEVIN. YOU'RE UP. COUNCILMAN BRADSHAW, YOUR NEXT. THANK YOU.

OKAY. YOU WILL MAKE YOU COUNCILMAN HERE MY NEXT THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF THIS. OBVIOUSLY, I WAS GOING TO SAY TO MY COLLEAGUE FROM, FROM DISTRICT ONE, COUNCILMAN HAWKINS, THAT I WOULD I WOULD BET THAT NUMBER ONE, IT SAYS UP TO. AND NUMBER TWO, THOSE SIGNS ARE COMPLETELY DATED. AND OBVIOUSLY WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH PUBLIC WORKS TO GET THEM DEFINED. THERE'S NOTHING IN THE ORDINANCE THAT'S REGIONAL. THE PENALTIES SHOULD BE IS THE SAME ACROSS THE COUNTY AS IT SHOULD BE. I DO WANT TO SPEAK TO THE INCREASE IN THE FINES. NOT ONLY DO I SUPPORT THIS, BUT I WANT TO SORT OF GIVE A HINT TO WHAT WE NEED TO BE DOING AND SOMETHING I'M ALREADY STARTING TO LOOK INTO, AND THAT IS OUR FINES AND PENALTIES ACROSS MULTIPLE ORDINANCES AND ISSUES ACROSS THE CITY, I WILL POINT EVERYONE TO. AND THERE WERE SOME PEOPLE THAT WEREN'T ON COUNCIL AT THE TIME. COUNCILWOMAN GEORGE HAD A PROBLEM OR WELL, NOW, DEPUTY MAYOR GEORGE HAD A PROBLEM WITH ILLEGAL TRUCK PARKING IN HER DISTRICT. AND WHEN WE LOOKED INTO IT, THE FINE TO ILLEGALLY PARK A TRUCK IN HER DISTRICT WAS LESS THAN WHAT IT COST IN THE COMMERCIAL MARKET TO LEGALLY PARK THAT TRUCK IN A LEGAL PARKING LOT. THAT IS OBVIOUSLY RIDICULOUS. AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF WHAT'S GOING ON, IS THAT WE HAVE MANY PEOPLE. I MEAN, THIS HAPPENED IN NEW YORK CITY. I REMEMBER BACK IN THE DAY DOUBLE PARKING WAS A COLOSSAL ISSUE. THE CONTRACTORS USED TO DOUBLE PARK THE HVAC COMPANIES.

THEY WOULD DOUBLE PARK IN ALLEYWAYS AND ON ROADS AND ALL THIS STUFF. BECAUSE THE FINE WAS

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YEAH. LAURA FERGUSSON, ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY. WE DID SOMETHING. I'M PULLING IT UP RIGHT NOW, BUT WE DID SOMETHING SIMILAR WITH THE SHORT TERM RENTALS AND THE LICENSING, WHERE WE SAID THAT THERE WAS AN INCREASED LICENSING FEE, BUT THAT THE INCREASE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE USED TO FUND FURTHER ENFORCEMENT. AND SO I'M JUST TRYING TO PULL UP THAT LANGUAGE.

BUT SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE CAN. BY AMENDMENT. MAY DO THAT. AN AMENDMENT ONE OPTION WOULD BE THIS, FOLKS, COULD WE TABLE THIS? LET THE COUNTY ATTORNEY GET AN INTELLIGENT OPINION. WE COME BACK TO IT. NO, NO NO I'M JUST SAYING TABLE IT JUST WE'LL VOTE ON IT TONIGHT. BUT JUST GIVE HER SOME TIME OR WE CAN SIT HERE AND WAIT FOR IT. ONE OF THE TWO. TABLE IS MR. MR. PRESIDENT, I MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE IT AT COUNCIL UNTIL AFTER WE VOTE ON ITEM NUMBER 56. MOTION ITEM NUMBER 35, WHICH I'M SORRY, I'M 35. SO WE'LL MOVE THIS TO THE LAST ITEM. YES. AND THAT'LL GIVE LAURA SOME TIME TO, TO DO HER DUE DILIGENCE. DOES THAT WORK FOR. WE'VE GOT A MOTION TO TABLE IT SECOND. SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF TABLING IT TO THE END OF THE EVENING SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSITION HEARING? NO OPPOSITION. THIS IS GOING TO BE TABLED TEMPORARILY, WHICH TAKES US NOW TO MADAM CLERK READING ITEM NUMBER 54. ITEM 54, AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE

[54. O-107-25     AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE DETAILED DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 16907 AND 16907R AIKEN ROAD CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 55.87 ACRES AND BEING IN LOUISVILLE METRO (CASE NO. 24DDP0078). (AS AMENDED) 7/22/25 Planning and Zoning Committee Amended; Recommended for Approval 6/17/25 Planning and Zoning Committee  Held 6/3/25 Planning and Zoning Committee  Tabled Action Required By November 15, 2025 Sponsors: Andrew Owen (D-9) ]

THE PROPERTY IS A PORTION OF A LARGER PARCEL JUST NORTHWEST OF LAKE FOREST COUNTRY CLUB, NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF AIKEN AND JOHNSON ROADS. THE ZONING WAS CHANGED IN 2021. YEAH. SO THIS IS KIND OF A COMPLICATED THING. THAT COUNCILMAN, IT'S IN HIS DISTRICT. HE'S BEEN WORKING ON IT, AND I THINK HE'LL BE WAY BETTER AT EXPLAINING IT THAN I WILL BE. I WILL SAY THE AMENDMENT THAT WAS PUT FORWARD PASSED OUT OF COMMITTEE UNANIMOUSLY. SO. COUNCILMAN PIAGENTINI, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, SIR. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. AND THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN OWEN. SO JUST TO BE SUPER CLEAR, THIS IS NOT A REZONING CASE AS AS CHAIRMAN OWEN STATED, THIS WAS REZONED A COUPLE YEARS AGO. THIS REPRESENTS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME DEVELOPMENT OF ALMOST 850 UNITS IN MY DISTRICT, ACTUALLY EAST ON AIKEN ROAD, AWAY FROM LAKE FOREST A LITTLE BIT. BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE OTHER SUBDIVISIONS THERE JUST ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT INTERSECTION. WHAT THE DEVELOPER DID HERE, WE PUT A BINDING ELEMENT THAT ANY CHANGES OR SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES TO THE DEVELOPMENT HAD TO COME BACK THROUGH COUNCIL FOR A VOTE. THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENED HERE. THE DEVELOPER MADE CHANGES. LARGELY. THOSE CHANGES WERE SORT OF RECONFIGURING WHERE THE HOUSING IS ON SITE. ONE OF THE BIGGEST OUTCOMES OF IT IS THAT IT ACTUALLY ALMOST DOUBLES THE OPEN

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ONE WAS THERE WAS A BINDING ELEMENT THAT AT THE TIME STATED THAT THE DEVELOPER HAD TO CONTRIBUTE TO AN OFF SITE ROAD IMPROVEMENT SO SIGNIFICANTLY WEST OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS THE INTERSECTION OF ARNOLD PALMER ROAD AND AIKEN ROAD, THAT THE DEVELOPER HAD TO PUT A TURN LANE INTO THAT INTERSECTION. THE CITY, INCLUDING MYSELF, PUBLIC WORKS, NOW THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND OTHERS HAVE SAID THAT WE SHOULD ACTUALLY PUT A TRAFFIC CIRCLE THERE INSTEAD OF THE TURN LANES. THE WAY THAT BINDING ELEMENT IS WRITTEN AS OF TODAY WOULD MAKE THE DEVELOPER OUT OF OUT OF COMPLIANCE, BUT IN REALITY, THEY WERE SORT OF ORDERED TO DO IT THAT WAY. SO THEY'RE STILL CONTRIBUTING THE SAME DOLLAR AMOUNT TO THE IMPROVEMENT ON THAT INTERSECTION. IT IS JUST THE AMENDMENT ACCURATELY REFLECTS THAT. NOW THERE'S GOING TO BE A TRAFFIC CIRCLE INSTEAD OF TURN LANES AT THAT INTERSECTION IN THE BINDING ELEMENT. THE OTHER BINDING ELEMENT THAT WAS AMENDED RELATES TO THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF UNITS ON THE PROPERTY. SO THERE IS THERE WAS CONCERN AGAIN VOICED ON THE RECORD FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT IF THE DEVELOPER KEEPS COMING BACK OVER TIME, I MEAN DEVELOPMENTS THIS BIG TAKE, YOU KNOW, UPWARDS OF TEN YEARS TO COMPLETELY BUILD OUT. COULD THEY CONTINUE MAKING CHANGES THAT ADD TO THE DENSITY AND ADD TO THE AMOUNT OF UNITS ON THAT PLOT OF LAND? AND SO THE ASK WAS, COULD WE GET SOME CERTAINTY OR SOME LANGUAGE THAT TIGHTENS UP THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD ANY MORE THAN THIS? TECHNICALLY, TO BE SUPER CLEAR, WE CANNOT CREATE A BINDING ELEMENT THAT THAT SAYS YOU CANNOT BUILD NO MORE THAN THIS MANY UNITS. BUT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE CAME UP WITH LANGUAGE THAT STRENGTHENS THE LANGUAGE, MAKING IT MORE DIFFICULT TO ADD UNITS TO THE TOTAL AMOUNT. TO BE CLEAR, THE DEVELOPER AGREED TO BOTH OF THESE AMENDMENTS, SO WE APPRECIATE THEIR WILLINGNESS TO GO ALONG WITH THESE AMENDMENTS AND THEIR COLLABORATION WITH THAT. THOSE PASSED UNANIMOUSLY OUT OF COMMITTEE AS CHAIRMAN OWEN STATED. AND I JUST ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL THIS EVENING TO APPROVE THE CHANGE THAT CAME OUT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND ALSO APPROVE THOSE AMENDMENTS THAT WERE ADOPTED IN COMMITTEE. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. SEE, NO, THIS ORDINANCE REQUIRES A ROLL CALL. VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ACTUALLY, MADAM CLERK, OPEN THE ROLL. COUNCIL MEMBER. PARRISH. RIGHT. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. RENA WEBBER. AYE.

COUNCILMEMBER. WINKLER. VOTING'S CLAUSEN, PRESIDENT. ECKERSON. YOU HAD 24 YES VOTES. THE

[55. O-139-25     AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTIONS 1.2, 2.2, 4.2 AND 4.3 OF THE LOUISVILLE METRO LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE (“LDC”) REGARDING HOMELESS AND CRISIS SHELTERS (CASE NO. 24-LDC-0001). (AS AMENDED) 7/22/25 Planning and Zoning Committee Amended; Recommended for Approval 6/17/25 Planning and Zoning Committee Held Action Required By: December 12, 2025 Sponsors: Andrew Owen (D-9), Shameka Parrish-Wright (D-3)]

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[56. O-141-25     AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE ZONING OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 8000 BROAD RUN ROAD CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 107 ACRES AND BEING IN LOUISVILLE METRO (CASE NO. 24ZONE0112). (AMENDMENT BY SUBSTITUTION) 7/22/25 Planning and Zoning Committee Amended; Recommended for Approval 6/17/25 Planning and Zoning Committee Held Action Required By: August 13, 2025 Sponsors: Andrew Owen (D-9) ]

PRESIDENT. IT'S JUST LIKE THE CHAIRMAN SAID, THERE'S A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH THIS. THEIR OWN STAFF AT PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED NOT PASS. IT'S JUST A LOT OF BUILDING ON SOME SMALL AREAS WITH SMALL ROADS. AND THAT'S AS YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE OF MY PROBLEMS IS BROAD RUN ROAD IS LIKE A FARM ROAD. AND IT WAS LITERALLY CAVING IN A FEW YEARS AGO, NOT AT THE PART WHERE IT AFFECTS THIS DEVELOPMENT, BUT RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD LESS THAN A HALF MILE. IT WAS LITERALLY FALLING APART AND IT WAS SLIDING DOWN. A HILLSIDE, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE CHAIRMAN SAID, IT VIOLATES FLOYDS FORK OVERLAY OF 30%. THE SLOPE IT GOES, IT'S TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM THAT. THEY ASK TO GO FOR THAT, WAIVE THAT. AND THERE'S JUST I READ HERE IN THE MOBILITY GOALS SUBSECTION FOUR, I GUESS THAT'S THE LDC. IT TO THE LDC SHOULD ENCOURAGE HIGHER DENSITIES WITHIN OR NEAR EXISTING MARKETPLACE CORRIDORS OR. FUTURE ACTIVITY CENTERS AND AREAS THAT SUPPORT TRANSIT DEVELOPMENT. WELL, THIS IS OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF A FIELD. MAN, THIS IS NOWHERE NEAR A MARKETPLACE OR A OR A ACTIVITY CENTER. SO I HOPE THAT WE VOTE YES ON THIS AND OVERTURN IT WITH FINDING OF FACT. COUNSELOR REED. THANK YOU. YOU'RE IN MY QUEUE. I WAS GOING TO SPEAK TO THE LAST ITEM, AND COUNCILMAN VACHON TOOK CARE OF THAT, SO. I'M FINE, THANK YOU. I'VE GOT NO ONE ELSE IN MY QUEUE. ANYONE ELSE? NO. I'M ON ITEM 56 NOW. HERE WE GO. THIS QUEUE SUCKS. I'M JUST GOING TO CALL ON PEOPLE. JENNY GOT THE FLOOR. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO SAY, I DO STAND IN FAVOR OF THIS WITH THE AMENDMENTS. PER THE RECORD, I DID HAVE MULTIPLE CONSTITUENTS REACH OUT. AND AS THEY WERE WATCHING THIS CLOSELY, AS YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS CLOSE TO MY DISTRICT. SO THANK YOU FOR THE WORK ON THIS. COUNCILMAN BRATCHER AND THE COMMITTEE. AGAIN, I DO STAND IN FAVOR OF THIS. TONY, YOU GOT THE FLOOR. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. SO I DO WANT TO EXPRESS ONE OF MY CONCERNS. I EXPRESSED IT IN COMMITTEE, BUT AS AS COUNCILMAN BRATCHER SAID, PART OF THIS WAS WAIVING SOME OF THE NEW GUIDANCE RELATED TO THE FLOYDS FORK DRL. I WOULD TELL YOU, I DON'T KNOW

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RIGHT. AND SO I HAVE SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT THAT. I APPRECIATE ALL OF COUNCILMAN BRASHER'S WORK ON THIS. I DO WANT TO BE CLEAR TO THE PUBLIC. PUBLIC REACHED OUT TO ME. SOME OF THE CONCERNS WERE SIMPLY LIKE, YOU KNOW, THIS AREA IS RURAL. IT'S GREAT RURAL, RIGHT? LOOK, DEVELOPMENT IS COMING TO ALL AREAS OF THIS COMMUNITY. I'VE DEVELOPMENT ALL OVER MY DISTRICT, BUT IT SHOULD BE DONE IN A WAY THAT MAKES SENSE, IN A WAY THAT IS FULLY THOUGHT THROUGH. AND I THINK THAT IN ADDITION TO MY CONCERNS ABOUT FLOYDS FORK, WHICH ARE REFLECTED IN THE FINDINGS OF FACT, IS THE ISSUE HERE. BUT I DID WANT TO DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN SIMPLY SAYING AN AREA WILL NEVER HAVE DEVELOPMENT IN IT, VERSUS IT SHOULD BE DONE THE RIGHT WAY.

AND WE HAVE FALLEN SHORT HERE, I THINK EVIDENCED BY THE ISSUES WITH THE PLANNING, WITH THE PLANNING TEAM AND THE FACT THAT THIS WAS A43 VOTE FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION, NOT EVEN WITH THE FULL PLANNING COMMISSION IN ATTENDANCE FOR THE VOTE. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCILOR BRADSHAW, FOR ALL YOUR WORK. AND I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S SUPPORT OF THIS. AND I AGAIN, WANT TO SAY THAT WE NEED THE FLOYDS FORK. DREW, YOU KNOW, GUIDANCE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE THE PUBLIC STATEMENT SHOULD NOT BE WAIVED EASILY. AND I FEEL LIKE THAT WAS PRECISELY WHAT HAPPENED HERE. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. ANDREW. THANK YOU, PRESIDENT ANDERSON. I WANTED TO GIVE OTHERS A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT THIS BEFORE I KIND OF WADE BACK IN. I SAID THIS IN COMMITTEE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IT AGAIN IN THIS FORUM. I, I'M GOING TO BE HARD PRESSED TO VOTE AGAINST HOUSING DEVELOPMENT IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR THE SIMPLE FACT THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN MANY OF THE AREAS OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT STILL HAVE LAND TO BE DEVELOPED, HAVE INSUFFICIENT INFRASTRUCTURE. I AND I'M NOT I'M NOT GOING TO ARGUE THAT AIKEN ROAD AND OTHER PLACES OUT IN THE COUNTY, IT'S A IT'S A MESS. THE TRAFFIC IS A MESS. ALL OF THOSE THINGS. I JUST DON'T THINK STOPPING DEVELOPMENT IN ALL OF THOSE PLACES BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFRASTRUCTURE IS THE ANSWER. AND THAT'S BECAUSE IF WE DO THAT, IT'S A CHICKEN AND AN EGG, AND WE'LL NEVER DEVELOP ANYTHING IN THIS COMMUNITY IN THE IN THE SUBURBAN AREAS OF THIS COMMUNITY EVER AGAIN. AND I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S THE RIGHT APPROACH. SO THE FIRST THING I WANT TO SAY IS, I ABSOLUTELY THINK THAT ALL OF US NEED TO BE TALKING TO THE JEFFERSON COUNTY DELEGATION IN THE STATE GOVERNMENT, AND WE NEED TO BE TRYING TO PARTNER WITH THE STATE TO HELP US BRING MORE MONEY FOR ADDITIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE INTO THIS COUNTY.

WE CANNOT DO IT ALONE. THERE'S TOO MUCH AND IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE. WE CAN'T DO IT ALONE, AND WE NEED TO PARTNER TOGETHER AS A GROUP AND TRY TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO, TO PARTNER WITH THE STATE TO, TO HELP US IN THAT REGARD. IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT, YES, THERE'S A LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT ALSO BECAUSE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE'VE MENTIONED, THE FACT THAT PLANNING COMMISSION WAS SPLIT 4 TO 3, THE FACT THAT THE PLANNING STAFF RECOMMENDED DENIAL, THE FACT THAT THE THEIR ISSUES RELATED TO FLOYDS FORK AND THE WAIVERS, YOU KNOW, COMING, COMING FORTH AT ALL. BUT SO QUICKLY AFTER WE, YOU KNOW, PASSED THE NEW CHANGES OF THE DRO. SO BECAUSE OF ALL OF THOSE THINGS I AGREED TO, IN MY MIND, IT MADE SENSE TO SUPPORT COUNCILMAN BRADSHAW'S AMENDMENT. AND THAT'S WHY I VOTED OUT OF COMMITTEE TO DO THAT. I WILL BE DOING THE SAME TONIGHT. I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF EXPLAIN MY THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND WHY I'M VOTING THE WAY I AM HERE, AND I WOULD HOPE THAT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO SOLVE THIS INFRASTRUCTURE PROBLEM, BECAUSE IT REALLY IS GOING TO BE A CHICKEN AND AN EGG ISSUE. THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO RELIEVE THE CHAIR TO THE PRESIDENT PRO TEM AND CALLING MYSELF AS I STEP ASIDE. I WANT TO ECHO WHAT COUNCILMAN OWEN JUST TALKED ABOUT. AND THAT IS THIS IS WE'RE IN A BAD SPOT RIGHT NOW. WE'VE GOT SUBURBAN AREAS THAT TRAFFIC IS HORRENDOUS. THE ROADS NEED WORK. BUT THE ULTIMATE PROBLEM IS GOING TO BE THIS IS THE AMOUNT OF ROAD WORK THAT'S NEEDED IS HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. WE DON'T HAVE THAT. AND SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE CHICKEN AND THE EGG ON ONE HAND WE CAN START KEEP DENYING DEVELOPMENT, TRYING TO CONTAIN THE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS WHICH I'VE

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AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, I SINCE I'VE BEEN IN A METRO COUNCILMAN, I'VE BEEN OUT WALKING IN THESE STREETS. AND THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL CITY. I MEAN, AND I FEEL SAFE DOWN ON MAIN STREET AND FOURTH STREET, AND I DO A LOT OF WALKING. THAT'S WHY I'VE GOT THIS TAN TRYING, TRYING TO LOSE WEIGHT AND BE HEALTHY. SOME OF MY FRIENDS ARE LOSING PARTS OF THEIR BODY AND IT'S SCARING ME.

SO I'M SO I'VE BEEN OUT WALKING AND SINCE I'VE HAD THIS JOB AND IT'S A BEAUTIFUL CITY AND THERE'S NOBODY DOWN HERE, YOU KNOW, I CAN WALK MAIN STREET SOMETIMES AT CERTAIN PARTS OF THE DAY, AND I'M THE ONLY PERSON ON MAIN STREET, AND IT'S GOT SO MUCH TO OFFER. BUT EVERYBODY WANTS TO BUILD OUT IN THE SUBURBS WHERE YOU, YOU GRIDLOCK THE TRAFFIC, BUT NOBODY WANTS TO BUILD HERE DOWNTOWN AND WHERE YOU'VE GOT THE INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU'VE GOT THE RESTAURANTS. IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE THINKING OF NICE APARTMENTS FOR YOUNG, YOUNG FOLKS COMING UP THROUGH THE SYSTEM, 30 YEAR OLDS, WHATEVER, IT'S A PERFECT PLACE FOR THEM. AND THEY'RE NOT HERE. SO WHY GO OUT THERE AND BUILD AND KEEP GRIDLOCKING US ON BARDSTOWN ROAD AND SOME OF THESE OTHER ROADS, WHEN WE'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT COULD BE DONE DOWNTOWN, LET'S BE THE FIRST CITY THAT ACTUALLY FOLLOWS THROUGH WITH URBAN RENEWAL. AND LET'S MAKE IT EASIER TO BUILD AND GET RID OF SOME OF THESE OVERLAYS. MR. CHAIRMAN, YOUR AREA, I THINK, HAS GOT A NICE OVERLAY THAT YOU GOT TO GO THROUGH EXTRA HOOPS BEFORE YOU BUILD ANYTHING. LET'S GET RID OF THOSE OR LOOK AT THOSE. I'M NOT SAYING GET RID OF THEM. GET LOOK AT THOSE AND MAKE IT EASIER TO BUILD DOWN HERE AT THE RESTAURANTS. NOW, I'M NOT SAYING BAXTER AVENUE DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH TRAFFIC. I KNOW THAT ON A WEEKEND THAT HAS A LOT OF SUPPORT CUSTOMERS. BUT MAN, THIS DOWNTOWN AREA REALLY NEED WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AND LET'S BUILD TOWARDS DOWNTOWN AND NOT JUST KEEP GRIDLOCK. AND OUT THERE WHERE THERE'S NOTHING TO DO OUT ON BROAD RUN ROAD. MR. PRESIDENT, YOU BUILD OUT THERE, THERE'S NOTHING TO DO OUT THERE. I MEAN, EXCEPT DRIVE BACK INTO TOWN TO DO SOMETHING. SO THAT'S MY POINT. AND I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS VOTING YES ON THIS. AND I ENJOY THIS DISCUSSION. AND I KNOW WE'RE ALL THINKING THE BEST THINGS FOR OUR THE CITY OF LOUISVILLE. AND I KNOW IF WE

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I COULD NOT LET THIS MOMENT PASS. I'D SAY FIRST I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN OWEN. I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH A LOT OF WHAT SOME OF YOU SAID, AND I'VE TAKEN A LOT OF HEAT FOR SUPPORTING. I WANT HOUSING EVERYWHERE. I HAVEN'T BEEN SHY ABOUT THAT. WE'RE AT 36,000 UNITS SHORT OF HOUSING.

WE HAVE AN AMAZING CITY THAT IS GROWING, AND THAT MEANS THAT WE SHOULD HAVE HOUSING OPTIONS FOR PEOPLE ALL OVER OUR COUNTY. BUT I STILL VOTED AND SUPPORTED WHA? COUNCILMAN BRADSHAW, BECAUSE HE GAVE A REASONABLE. IT WASN'T JUST ABOUT NIMBYISM, IT WAS ABOUT SOME PROCESSES WEREN'T FOLLOWED IN. THERE'S SOME INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THE ISSUE IS THAT THEY'RE EVERYWHERE. AND IN MY DISTRICT THERE'S A LOT OF RENTERS, THERE'S A LOT OF HOMEOWNERS, AND THERE'S STILL NOT ENOUGH HOUSING. AND IF YOU ARE 36,000 UNITS SHORT, THEY ALL CAN'T FIT DOWNTOWN. I'M ALL FOR HOUSING DENSITY, BUT WE ALSO KNOW URBAN RENEWAL BROUGHT IN MORE GENTRIFICATION BECAUSE PEOPLE WANT TO EAT, WORK, PLAY, AND LIFE THRIVES AROUND WATER.

SO THAT'S WHY RIVER CITIES GET IT THE MOST. BUT EVEN PEOPLE WHO HAVE EXPERIENCED THAT WANT TO SEE SOMETHING NEW AND BUILT, AND PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE HOUSING OPTIONS THAT LETS THEM SCALE UP, THEY NEED TO AND SCALE OUT. SOME PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF BEING DOWNTOWN. THEY WANT TO MOVE OUT INTO THE COUNTY MORE. AND SO UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S ACTUALLY A FORTUNATE THING BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT MIXED USE HOUSING IS VERY BENEFICIAL FOR EVERYONE, AND IT HELPS US IN SO MANY WAYS. AND WE JUST SAW ANNEXATION. SINCE I'VE BEEN ON HERE, I'VE SEEN TWO VOTES FOR ANNEXATION THAT IS GOING TO KEEP HAPPENING. AND SO WE GOTTA IF WE'RE GOING TO KEEP RUNNING OFF THIS CITY BUDGET, WE ALSO GOT TO INCREASE THE HOUSING STOCK INSIDE OF OUR COUNTY, ALL OVER OUR COUNTY, BECAUSE WE'RE LOSING HOMEOWNERS WITH. AND SO 13 HERE, 20 THERE, IT STARTS TO ADD UP. SO I THINK IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S A CHICKEN AND EGG THING, AS THE CHAIR HAS SAID. AND I THINK WE JUST GOT TO BE CAREFUL ON HOW WE APPROACH THIS. BUT IT'S NUANCE RIGHT. SO A CASE BY CASE BASIS. SO I'M GOING TO VOTE TO SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE AS BRADSHAW AND I AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN COMMITTEE AND I GOT THE REASONING FOR IT. BUT I WILL TELL YOU, I TOOK A LOT OF HEAT FOR A VOTE FOR HOUSING BEFORE BECAUSE I WAS MY FIRST VOTE AND I WASN'T VOTING AGAINST HOUSING, BUT I AM GOING TO BE SUPPORTING MORE HOUSING ALL OVER OUR COUNTY. AND THANK YOU ALL FOR THE WORK ON THIS.

COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS. YES, I'M GOING TO SAY THIS, COUNCILMAN PEREZ. RIGHT. YOU'RE RIGHT. YOU DID TAKE A LOT OF HEAT, AND THAT WAS MY YOU KNOW, THAT WAS THE DEVELOPMENT IN MY DISTRICT. I THINK EVERYBODY DID. BUT I ALSO WANT TO SAY THIS. I'M A FIRM BELIEVER, YOU KNOW, AND WHEN I FIRST GOT ON COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, I RELIED ON COUNCILWOMAN SHANKLIN A LOT. AND ONE THING THAT SHE ALWAYS TOLD ME, YOU KNOW, IS THAT NORMALLY PEOPLE SUPPORT WHAT YOU KNOW, PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THE PEOPLE IN THEIR DISTRICT WANTS AND NEEDS, YOU KNOW, AND WE FOLLOW THE PERSON THAT SERVES THAT AREA. THAT'S WHY THEY WAS VOTED FOR TO, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT AREA. RIGHT. SO BUT I WILL SAY THIS, YOU KNOW, SAFETY IS ALWAYS FIRST. YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE BEEN OUT THERE.

THOSE ROADS ARE HORRIBLE, YOU KNOW, AND I'M SORRY, BUT I JUST, YOU KNOW, I GOTTA SAY WHAT NEEDS TO BE SAID. GENTRIFICATION IS COMING. YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU CAN MOVE DOWNTOWN. COME ON DOWN WITH ME IN THE WEST END BECAUSE IT'S COMING, YOU KNOW? BUT I TOTALLY AGREE, YOU KNOW, WITH YOU AND I WILL BE IN SUPPORT WITH THIS COUNCILMAN, BUT. YEAH. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. MR. PRESIDENT, I MEAN, OF COURSE I'LL BE SUPPORTING THIS. AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HAVE HISTORICALLY HAD IN THIS CITY A REAL PROBLEM WITH ROADS AND PLANNING OF ROADS. AND LIKE MY ESTEEMED COLLEAGUE COUNCILMAN BENSON, WHO'S NOT HERE TONIGHT, WOULD ALWAYS SAY, YOU KNOW, WHERE IS THE PLANNING? YOU KNOW, WHERE WHERE DID WE SPEND MONEY TO ACTUALLY PLAN TO DEVELOP INTO CERTAIN AREAS? AND THE SIMPLE TRUTH IS THAT WE ARE BEING BOMBARDED OUT IN THE SUBURBS WITH WITH DEVELOPMENT AND POOR PLANNING THAT WENT INTO THE DEVELOPMENT. OKAY. AND FOR SOME OF US THAT ARE AROUND THE TWO 6442 INTERCHANGE THAT'S BEING REPAIRED NOW BY THE STATE, SOMEBODY IN THE STATE HAD THE BRIGHT IDEA TO DO THAT WHILE RIVER ROAD WAS CLOSED. MAYBE THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER AGREED WITH JOE GERTH IN AN ARTICLE, BY THE WAY. AND IT'S INSANE. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN

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THAT WAS THE STATEMENT I WANTED TO MAKE. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN STEIN, GIVE THE FLOOR. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, I WANT TO I'M IN SUPPORT OF COUNCILMAN BRATCHERS ORDINANCE HERE. AND ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT, I HEAR ABOUT THE CHICKEN AND THE EGG. WELL, WE GOT THE CHICKEN 450 MORE UNITS, BUT WE CAN'T GET THE EGG TO HATCH. WE HAVE NO GROCERY STORE IN MY AREA, BUT WE STILL PUT 450 UNITS. WE HAVE NO TARC, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY CAUGHT MY ATTENTION WAS I TALKED TO A LEGISLATOR IN FRANKFORT, AND MY DISTRICT IS SPLIT UP. MY MAIN ROAD IS CONTROLLED BY AN OPPOSITE PARTY MEMBER, AND THAT OPPOSITE PARTY MEMBER CAN'T GET A LINE ITEM, A LINE ITEM IN THE BUDGET BECAUSE SHE'S PAINTED HERSELF INTO A CORNER SHE CAN'T GET ANYTHING THROUGH. SO I'M STUCK IN MY DISTRICT TRYING TO GET INFRASTRUCTURE, GETTING MY ROAD FIXED. SO I'M STUCK IN THE MIDDLE OF THESE POLITICS. THEY'RE STILL BUILDING MORE AND MORE APARTMENTS. WE STILL DON'T HAVE A GROCERY STORE AFTER THREE YEARS. WE DON'T HAVE A MIDDLE SCHOOL AND THEY KEEP SAYING CHICKEN AND EGG. WELL, WE GOT TO GET THE EGG TO HATCH SOMETIME AND IT'S NOT HAPPENING YET. WE STILL BUILD THESE APARTMENT COMPLEXES IN PLACES THAT WE CANNOT SUSTAIN. SO I AM WITH COUNCILMAN BRADSHAW ON THIS AND I'M A PROUD YES. THANK YOU.

COUNCILWOMAN BASS, DO YOU HAVE THE FLOOR? I JUST WANTED TO ECHO MY COLLEAGUES, AND I AM IN SUPPORT OF BRATCHERS AMENDMENT HERE. WE HAVE TO START LOOKING AT THESE DEVELOPMENTS THAT KEEP GOING INTO RURAL AREAS WITH BAD INFRASTRUCTURE. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT GOING INTO MY AREA THAT ARE FOOD DESERTS. THE SCHOOLS ARE AT MAX CAPACITY WHILE THEY CONTINUE TO CLOSE SCHOOLS IN MY AREA. THERE'S NO TALK THAT RUNS IN THIS AREA. THERE'S NO ACCESS TO STOP, TO SIDEWALKS, TO GET TO RETAIL OR STORES OR ANY GOODS THAT THEY NEED. AND WE HAVE TO START LOOKING AT THAT WHEN WE ARE PUTTING THESE DEVELOPMENTS IN AND TALK ABOUT IT, BECAUSE IT IS IT IS POOR PLANNING, AND WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE. AND I GET THAT I AM FOR POSITIVE GROWTH AND I AM FOR WE NEED TO GET THE HOUSING WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE AND DO IT RIGHT. SO WE'RE NOT STUCK LISTENING TO OUR CONSTITUENTS THAT ARE STUCK IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE WITH NO ACCESS TO GET ANYWHERE. SO THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN ERWIN. YOU'RE MY CUE. THANK YOU. I'LL BE VERY QUICK. YES, PLEASE. YES, PLEASE. TO MORE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT IN EVERY WAY. BUT I DON'T THINK WE CAN CHOOSE ONE AND NOT DO THE OTHER. THAT'S THAT'S ONE. AND I ALSO THINK IT'S INTERESTING THAT I WOULD BE THE PERSON REMINDING

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COUNCILMAN PIAGENTINI WAVING AWAY. YES, BUT. BUT GOVERNMENT. SHOULDN'T MESS WITH THE MARKET, BUT IT SETS THE STAGE FOR THE MARKET. WE SET THE RULES. SO FOR EXAMPLE. WHY DO WE THINK IN MODERN TIMES? I PICK ON MY COLLEAGUE, COUNCILMAN PURVIS. RIGHT. BECAUSE WHERE IN THE LAST CENSUS, MY DISTRICT WENT UP BY 40%, HERS WENT DOWN BY 30% IN POPULATION. AND WE HAD CHANGED THE LINES TO COMPENSATE FOR THAT. IF YOU DON'T THINK THAT, IF YOU DON'T THINK THAT THE CITY'S LACK OF ATTENTION TO INFRASTRUCTURE, THE CRIME RATE IN OUR DISTRICT, THAT'S DIFFERENT IN OUR DISTRICTS, AND I COULD LABEL OUT A BUNCH OF OTHER THINGS CONTRIBUTED TO THE TO THE DEMAND SHIFT. SO, YES, THE MARKET, YOU KNOW, SHOULD PLAY OUT, BUT THE CITY IS NOT CREATING A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD IN THE MARKET IN THIS CITY. THE CITY IS IN THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT CREATING A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD WHERE THE MARKET'S DEMAND CAN PLAY OUT BY, BY, BY, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, SCREWING OVER CERTAIN DISTRICTS AND CERTAIN DISTRICTS, NOT BEING NOT BEING IN THE SAME CONDITION AS OTHERS. THEY CREATED THE DEMAND TO MOVE OUT OF THOSE AREAS. SO I, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I AGREE WITH IT, BUT WE CANNOT IGNORE THE ROLE THE GOVERNMENT PLAYED IN CREATING THAT OUTSIZED DEMAND AND THAT SHIFT IN DEMAND. SO THANK YOU.

WAS THAT COMRADE COUNCILMAN HERNDON, YOU'VE GOT THE FLOOR, SIR, AS SHARING THE DISTRICT NEXT DOOR TO COUNCILWOMAN PURVIS. MY DISTRICT HAS IS THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN MY DISTRICT ARE WELL OVER 100 YEARS OLD. AND SO, SO ARE SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE SIDEWALKS, FOR EXAMPLE. OUR SIDEWALKS AREN'T YEARS OLD. THEY'RE DECADES OLD. AND WE NEED TO I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT COMMITTING SPECIFIC FUNDS FOR THOSE SPECIFIC AREAS, BECAUSE THEY ARE DECADES OLD OR MORE. WELL, YEAH, MANY, MANY DECADES. SO THERE'S A REASON THAT WHEN THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS CRUMBLING, IT'S BECAUSE IT'S VERY, VERY OLD AS OPPOSED TO THE NEWER AREAS.

I'D LIKE TO JUST TALK TO MY COLLEAGUES ABOUT GETTING SOME MORE FUNDS PUT INTO THE DISTRICTS. WHERE INTO THE DISTRICTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WERE THE CITY WAS BORN.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN REED, FOR THOSE THAT THINK I HAVE NO HEART IN THE INTEREST OF COUNCILMAN LEININGER'S MARRIAGE, I'D LIKE TO CALL THE QUESTION. I WAS GOING TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WELL, THERE'S NO ONE ELSE IN MY QUEUE, BUT LET'S DO THIS. WE GOT THE CALL, THE QUESTION. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY IN OPPOSITION? I THINK THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR. THE AYES HAVE IT.

ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF HIS MARRIAGE. THE QUESTION HAS BEEN CALLED. MADAM CLERK, OPEN THE ROLL. I'M SORRY. WE'RE VOTING ON THE ON THE ORDINANCE AS IS, WHICH IS TO DECLINE THE DEVELOPMENT. COUNCIL MEMBER PARRISH. RIGHT? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER MARINA WEBER I.

VOTING'S CLOSING. PRESIDENT. YOU HAVE 19. YES. VOTE ONE NO. AND FOUR PRESENT. THE ORDINANCE PASSES AS IS. THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA WILL BE ITEM NUMBER 35. A READING OF THAT, PLEASE,

[35. O-162-25     AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A DEVELOPMENT AREA PURSUANT TO PROVISIONS OF KRS 65.7041- 65.7083 AND KRS 154.30-010-154.30-090 TO BE KNOWN AS THE DISTILLERY COMMONS DEVELOPMENT AREA, DESIGNATING THE METRO DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, INC. AS AN "AGENCY", ADOPTING A DEVELOPMENT PLAN, APPROVING ENTERING INTO A LOCAL PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT, AUTHORIZING THE PAYMENT OF THE "RELEASED AMOUNT" PURSUANT TO THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THE LOCAL PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT, REQUIRING THE SUBMISSION OF REGULAR REPORTS TO LOUISVILLE/JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT AND AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION AND DELIVERY OF ANY OTHER DOCUMENTS AND THE TAKING OF ANY OTHER ACTIONS NECESSARY TO ACCOMPLISH THE PURPOSES AUTHORIZED BY THIS ORDINANCE. 7/22/25 Labor and Economic Development Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: December 26, 2025 Sponsors: Andrew Owen (D-9) ]

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AUTHORIZING THE PAYMENT OF THE RELEASED AMOUNT PURSUANT TO THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THE LOCAL PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT REQUIRING THE SUBMISSION OF REGULAR REPORTS TO THE LOUISVILLE JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT AND AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF DELIVERY OF ANY OTHER DOCUMENTS AND THE TAKING OF ANY OTHER EXECUTION AND DELIVERY OF ANY, EXCUSE ME, ANY OTHER DOCUMENTS, ACTIONS NECESSARY TO ACCOMPLISH THE PURPOSE AUTHORIZED BY THIS ORDINANCE. READING FOR SECOND ITEMS PROPERLY BEFORE US. THIS CAME OUT OF COUNCILMAN BUCCANEER RENO WEBBER'S COMMITTEE. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, SIR. THIS IS PROPERLY IN COUNCILMAN OWENS WATERS, SO I'LL LET HIM SPEAK TO IT. THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO HEAR. THE FLOOR. THANK YOU, PRESIDENT ATKINSON. SO ALL THE ONES I'VE DEALT WITH TONIGHT, NONE OF THEM ARE JUST TOTALLY, TOTALLY STRAIGHTFORWARD. FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS THE DISTILLERY COMMONS PROPERTY AT THE CORNER OF LEXINGTON ROAD AND PAYNE. SO IT'S A HISTORIC PROPERTY. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS FANTASTIC. WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT. THEY'RE DOING A NEW FOOD HALL, YOU KNOW, HEADLINERS. MUSIC HALL IS RIGHT THERE NEXT TO IT. SO THEY'LL BE IT'LL BE KIND OF A LIVE MUSIC VENUE WHERE IT'S NOT OWNED BY THE SAME PEOPLE, BUT THEY WILL KIND OF WORK OFF OF EACH OTHER. THERE'S GOING TO BE A INDOOR PUTT PUTT GOLF, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CITY. THERE'S A THE CHEF THAT'S RUNNING THE FOOD HALL GREW UP IN HERE IN LOUISVILLE, HAS DONE SUCCESSFUL RESTAURANTS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. HE'S COMING BACK TO RUN THIS FOOD HALL, SO HE'S EXCITED ABOUT IT. SO THERE'S 150 UNITS OF HOUSING PROPOSED IN PHASE TWO, 10% OF WHICH WILL BE AFFORDABLE. SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT THAT WE LIKE HERE.

AND WE'RE VERY PLEASED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT, WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON ON A COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE IRISH HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE DEVELOPER. IT'S WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET IT COMPLETELY WORKED OUT. AND SO WE WENT TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND SAID, HOW DO WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND PASS IT TONIGHT BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE FINANCING WORKS FOR THE DEVELOPER, THEY NEED TO HAVE GO AHEAD AND HAVE IT PASSED. SO WE WANTED TO HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY TO GO AHEAD AND PASS THE ORDINANCE AND THEN BE ABLE TO KIND OF GO BACK AND SAY, HERE'S THE FINAL CBA AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE ATTACHING TO THE DOCUMENT AND IT'S BINDING. SO I'VE ASKED LAURA FERGUSON TO AMEND THE DOCUMENT SO WE CAN TRY TO ACCOMPLISH THAT. BUT I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS. IT'S GREAT DEVELOPMENT AND WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT. DO YOU WANT ME TO READ THE AMENDED LANGUAGE? YEAH. SO WHAT THEY HAVE IS IN THE ORDINANCE ON PAGE SIX, ITEM G, THE LAST SENTENCE TALKS ABOUT THE MEMORIALIZED IN A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING. AND WHAT WOULD BE ADDED TO INSERTED AS THE END OF THAT SENTENCE WOULD BE. BUT WHICH DRAFT MOU MAY BE AMENDED UPON AGREEMENT OF BOTH PARTIES TO THE MOU? AND THAT'S THE ONLY CHANGE MOTION. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDED COUNCIL, AMBASSADOR MCHUGH. OH. ARE YOU WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? YES. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, MADAM. I JUST WANTED TO RESPOND. TAMMY HAD MENTIONED ABOUT THE SIGNS THAT ACTUALLY CAME UP IN THIS IS THIS IS THAT'S GOING TO BE NEXT. OH, WELL THEN NO, I'M NOT OKAY. NO.

ALL RIGHT. NO ONE ELSE IN MY QUEUE. WE'VE GOT THE AMENDED VERSION BEFORE US. ALL THE FAVORS OF THE AMENDMENT SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSITION HEARING? NO OPPOSITION. NOW WE HAVE THE AMENDED VERSION BEFORE US. DO YOU CARE TO SPEAK ANYMORE TO COUNCILMAN OWEN? SAID MY PIECE.

NO ONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE UP. COUNCILMAN LEONARD, YOU'RE YOU'RE IN THE QUEUE. YES. TWO THINGS. ONE, I CAN'T LET THE SOUTH SEAS ERASURE STAND. THEY DO HAVE PUTT PUTT AT SOUTH SEAS.

IT'S GREAT. TWO, THIS IS WHY I STAYED TONIGHT AND CONTINUE TO HANG OUT WITH Y'ALL LONG WINDED PEOPLE. IF THIS HAD NOT ALREADY BEEN PULLED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR DUE TO THE NEED FOR THE AMENDMENT, I WAS GOING TO ASK TO PULL IT UP FOR THE SAME REASON THAT THE LAST TIFF THAT CAME BEFORE US, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE LIMITED FUNDS AT OUR DISPOSAL IN GOVERNMENT. WE HAVE LIMITED WAYS THAT WE CAN RAISE REVENUES. AND SO WE HAVE TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE PUBLIC RESOURCE OF OUR TAX BASES. AND IT IS MY OPINION THAT 80% AMI FOR 10% OF UNITS DOES NOT MEET THE NEED FOR US TO BE GIVING AWAY TAX BASE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT. I DON'T FEEL THAT THAT IS A COMPELLING ENOUGH PUBLIC USE, AND THAT WE NEED TO BE BUILDING MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AT A LOWER LEVEL OF

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SEEING NO OTHER SPEAKERS IN MY QUEUE. YOU'RE. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, MADAM, BUT NOT IN MY QUEUE. OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I HAVE MY OWN CONCERNS ABOUT IT. IF MY UNDERSTANDING OF TIFS IS THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE USED IN BLIGHTED NEIGHBORHOODS, AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE JUSTIFICATION FOR WHY THAT AREA IS BLIGHTED. SO I'M PLANNING TO VOTE PRESENT ON THIS. ANYONE ELSE CARE TO SPEAK TO THIS? SEE? NO. AND THIS IS AN ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRES A ROLL CALL. VOTE.

MADAM CLERK, OPEN THE ROLL. VOTE IS OPEN. COUNCIL MEMBER. PARIS. RIGHT. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER MARINA WEBER. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER. FRANKLIN. THANK YOU. YES. I HEAR YOU, COUNCILMEMBER WINKLER. VOTE IS CARLSON. YES. NOT GOING UP THERE. TWO, THREE. PRESIDENT ERICKSON, YOU HAVE THREE PRESENT. ONE. NO. AND 20 YES VOTES. THE ORDINANCE IS ADOPTED.

MAY I HAVE A MOTION? MOTION TO TABLE NUMBER 53 SECOND. ALRIGHT, FOLKS, WE GOT ITEM 53 BACK BEFORE US. I THINK LAURA'S COME UP WITH SOME SMART ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS OF THE. DO IT. AND I HAVE SOME PROPOSED LANGUAGE. IF YOU WANT ME TO READ THAT IN I CAN. YEAH. EVERYBODY ALL RIGHT? YEAH. WHAT'S THAT? MR. PRESIDENT, WE HAVE SOME LANGUAGE ON THE ILLEGAL DUMPING. WHETHER WE CAN. OKAY. SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME LANGUAGE WHICH IS BEING PROPOSED AS AN AMENDMENT TO THIS TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF DIRECTING THE FUNDS WHERE YOU ALL WANT TO GO AT THIS POINT, LET'S HEAR THE LANGUAGE AND THEN WE'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR AN AMENDMENT. SECOND, AND WE'LL THANK YOU. SO THIS WOULD BE A NEW SUBSECTION S, IT WOULD STATE UPON THE ISSUANCE OF A NON-APPEALABLE FINAL ORDER, ALL FINES AND FEES COLLECTED PURSUANT TO THIS SECTION SHALL BE ALLOCATED DIRECTLY TO THE TO PUBLIC WORKS FOR INVESTMENT INTO THE CONTINUED ENFORCEMENT OF THIS SECTION MOTION. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT BEFORE US. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT AMENDMENT? THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN, JUST FOR CLARITY AND JUST TO BE ON THE RECORD. SO THIS IS TO BUY MORE CAMERAS, RIGHT? MR. PRESIDENT, CAN I RESPOND IN SIGNAGE IF NEEDED? RIGHT. SIGNAGE AND CAMERAS. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. COUNCILWOMAN BETH. SEAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ANSWER HER QUESTION IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU, MR. PRESIDENT? YES, SIR. AND, ROBBIE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THE ORDINANCE, THE AMENDMENT ON THE ORDINANCE BASICALLY STATES THAT THE FINES AND MONEY COLLECTED ON ILLEGAL DUMPING. I GUESS YOU WOULD SAY PROSECUTIONS WOULD GO BACK TO PUBLIC WORKS FOR ALLOCATION OF SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS, FOR AREAS OF HOTSPOTS, FOR ILLEGAL DUMPING AS. MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCIL, AS WELL AS SIGNAGE AND WHATEVER ELSE AS WELL AS ENFORCEMENT. RIGHT. SO IT'S NOT LIMITED TO CAMERAS, BUT IT IS LIMITED ENFORCEMENT OF THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE. CAN WE CLARIFY THE LANGUAGE LIKE THAT IN THE IN THE ORDINANCE, FROM THE WAY IT WAS JUST DESCRIBED, WOULD BE THE WAY I WOULD DESCRIBE IT. PERFECT. LOVE IT. DO WE NEED TO AMEND IT FURTHER BASED ON MOTION, OR ARE WE COVERED WITH THE AMENDMENT AS IS? WELL, MIGHT HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT YOU'RE ASKING WITH THAT QUESTION I'M ASKING IS YOU READ THIS AMENDMENT AND WE'RE GOING TO VOTE HERE IN A SECOND WHETHER OR NOT TO ADOPT THAT AMENDMENT. THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION ABOUT, WILL THAT MONEY GO BACK IN FOR CAMERAS AND SIGNAGE? ARE BOTH OF THOSE AND ENFORCEMENT? ARE ALL THREE OF THOSE THINGS COVERED BY YOUR AMENDMENT? SIGNAGE, ENFORCEMENT AND CAMERAS? THE WAY THAT IT'S CURRENTLY WRITTEN, IT WOULD BE UP TO PUBLIC WORKS, BUT THEY WOULD BE LIMITED ON THE USAGE OF THE FUNDS FOR ENFORCEMENT OF THIS OF THIS ORDINANCE. OKAY. SO HOW THEY WOULD WANT TO DO IT WOULD BE UP TO PUBLIC WORKS. DOES ANYONE NEED ANY FURTHER CLARIFICATION ON THAT? DOES THIS ALSO INCLUDE THE RAISE OF THE FINE THAT WAS PROPOSED? I DON'T THINK WE TOOK THAT TO A VOTE EITHER. SO THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHE. OKAY. AND THE UPDATE BECAUSE LIKE COUNCILMAN PETTINE SAID, PROBABLY SOME OF THE SIGNS THAT I'M SEEING THAT ARE OUTDATED BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT CONSISTENT.

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WELL, I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO GET $1,000 FINE. WELL, TOO BAD YOU BROKE THE LAW. ARE WE OKAY WITH THAT? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS REGARDING THIS AMENDMENT? THIS AMENDMENT REQUIRES A VOTE. COUNCILWOMAN RAYMOND, I DO HAVE A CONCERN THAT, HOWEVER UNLIKELY, WHAT IF WE RAISE MORE MONEY THAN IS NEEDED FOR ENFORCEMENT? NEVER HAPPENED IN THIS. DOES ANYONE CARE TO RESPOND TO THAT QUESTION? CAN COUNCILMAN PIANTINI. YES. SO TWO THINGS.

FIRST OF ALL, REGARDING THE ACTUAL LANGUAGE IN THE AMENDMENT, IT'S GENERIC, RIGHT? WE'VE DONE THIS BEFORE, ACTUALLY, GOLF. THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER AREAS WHERE WE SAY REVENUE GENERATED FROM THAT GOES INTO WHATEVER THE FUNCTIONING OF THAT, WE DON'T GET ANY MORE SPECIFIC. AND TRUST ME THAT PARTICULARLY IN THE PRIOR ADMINISTRATION, I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE GOTTEN SUPER SPECIFIC AND MICROMANAGED THE JUNK OF EVERY DECISION THEY MADE. BUT THAT IS NOT GOOD POLICY. WE HAVE TO GIVE THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH THE ABILITY TO EXECUTE, ALBEIT WE GIVE THEM OVERSIGHT. RIGHT? AND IF WE THINK THEY'RE ALLOCATING THE MONEY IN A HORRIBLE WAY, WE JUMP ALL OVER THEM TO ADDRESS SPECIFICALLY MY COLLEAGUE, COUNCILWOMAN COUNCILWOMAN RAYMOND'S CONCERN. IT IS IT IS A VALID CONCERN. ABSOLUTELY. AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD ARGUE THROUGH THE BUDGETARY PROCESS. WE WOULD ASK. RIGHT. SO AGAIN, THERE ARE OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE IN THIS BOAT, RIGHT WHERE WE HAVE MONEY THAT WE SAY, LOOK, MONEY REVENUE GENERATE FROM THIS HAS TO GO BACK INTO THIS BUCKET.

THEORETICALLY, THIS COULD BE IN A SCENARIO WHERE THEY HAVE SO MU MEY, THEY'RE LIKE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THIS. LIKE, THIS IS RIDICULOUS, RIGHT? IT HAS TO GO BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND OR SOMETHING ELSE. I WILL TELL YOU THAT I CANNOT THINK OF ONE EXAMPLE OF WHERE THAT HAS HAPPENED YET. OKAY. IN GENERAL, GENERALLY SPEAKING, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, AT LEAST IN THE SHORT TERM HERE. AND BY SHORT TERM, I MEAN NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS I WOULD BE BLOWN AWAY THAT THEY COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, I HAVE NO ID HOW TO SPEND THIS IN ORDER TO ENFORCE THE LAW ON ILLEGAL DUMPING, BECAUSE THE PROBLEM IS SO RAMPANT AND OUT OF CONTROL, AND WE NEED TO UPDATE SIGNS AND WE NEED CAMERAS AND WE NEED TO DO THESE THINGS, AND NONE OF THAT IS CHEAP. SO BUT I WOULD SAY IT'S A LEGITIMATE CONCERN THAT, FRANKLY, SHOULD BE DEALT WITH DURING THE BUDGETARY PROCESS. AND IF AT THAT POINT WE SAY, LOOK, THERE'S REALLY TOO MUCH MONEY BEING GENERATED BY THIS, WE NEED TO UTILIZE IT. OTHERWISE, THEN WE MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE LAW AND REALLOCATE IT. BUT I SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT, I THINK, IN THE IN THE FOR AT LEAST FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS, THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. AND UNTIL IT'S PROVEN THAT WE HAVE TOO MUCH MONEY TO ENFORCE THIS, I THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. COUNCILWOMAN BASS, DO YOU HEAR MY CUE? I WAS JUST GOING TO SPEAK TO A COUPLE OF THINGS. FIRSTLY, IT DID COME UP IN MY DISTRICT ABOUT THE SIGNAGE BEING DATED. WE RECENTLY HAD AN ISSUE WHERE THERE WAS A WRECK AND IT WAS A NO LEFT TURN SIGN. IT CAUSED SOME CONFUSION BECAUSE IT WAS A WRITTEN SIGN AND THEY WENT TO SYMBOLS AND IT WASN'T A LEGIBLE WRITTEN SIGN. SO THEY DID MAKE ME AWARE THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF SIGNS OUT THERE DATED THAT NEED TO BE UPDATED. SO, BUT WITH THAT, I WANTED TO JUST SAY I FULLY SUPPORT SUPPORT ENHANCING THE FINES FOR LEGAL DUMPING. SO IN MY FIRST SIX MONTHS ON COUNCIL, IT'S BEEN IN ONE OF THE TOP COMPLAINTS THAT I HAVE RECEIVED IN OUR DISTRICT. AND IT'S PERSISTENT ISSUE THAT I THINK WE ALL WORK VERY HARD TO ADDRESS IN OUR DISTRICTS. AND I ALSO AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN SANTINI THAT WE NEED TO TAKE A BROADER LOOK AT ALL OF THE FINES AND UPDATE THEM WHERE NECESSARY.

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NO ONE ELSE IN MY QUEUE. NOW WE HAVE THE AMENDED VERSION BEFORE US, OR WE'RE VOTING ON THE AMENDED VERSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDED VERSION WITH THE LANGUAGE OF THE ALLOCATION OF FUNDS SAY AYE. ANY IN OPPOSITION HEARING NO OPPOSITION. WE NOW HAVE THE ORDINANCE, THE AMENDED ORDINANCE BEFORE US. NO ONE IN THE QUEUE TO SPEAK TO THAT. MADAM CLERK, OPEN THE ROLL, PLEASE. ALL. COUNCIL MEMBER PERISH. RIGHT. YOU'RE WORTHY TONIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER. WEBER. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. PARRISH. RIGHT. YES. I WAS PASSING BY. COUNCIL MEMBER LINENGER. YES. NO. YES. CLOSING. PRESS. NICKERSON. YOU HAVE 23 YES VOTES. THE ORDINANCE IS

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MADAM CLERK, A READING OF THOSE ITEMS, PLEASE. THE FOLLOWING LEGISLATION WAS ASSIGNED TO THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE. ITEM 57, AN ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING $26,600 FROM DISTRICT 18 NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS THROUGH THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET TO THE CITY OF HURSTBOURNE FOR EIGHT FLOCK CAMERAS TO BE PLACED AT THE ENTRANCES OF THE CITY. ITEM 58 AN ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING $12,460 FROM NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER $303,560 EACH FROM DISTRICTS ONE AND 21 AND $2,670 EACH FROM DISTRICTS THREE

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URBAN FORESTRY FOR BOB RAY COMPANY, INC. TO REMOVE TREES AND STUMPS IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY AT AND NEAR 1521 SYLVAN WAY. ITEM 61 AN ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING $1,000 FROM NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER $1,000 FROM DISTRICT NINE THROUGH THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET TO GIRL SCOUTS OF KENTUCKY, INC. FOR VENUE AND RENTAL COSTS FOR THE EVENT TO BE HELD OCTOBER 18TH AND 19TH, 2025. ITEM 62 AN ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING $5,117.40 FROM PUBLIC WORKS AND ASSETS TO FUND FIVE STREET LIGHTS ON HERALD AVENUE, INCLUDING A FIVE YEAR LEASE AGREEMENT WITH LOUISVILLE GAS AND ELECTRIC. ITEM 63 AN ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING $9,212.79 FROM DISTRICT 23 NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS THROUGH THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET TO HIGHVIEW BUSINESS OWNERS ASSOCIATION, INC. FOR COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE HIGHVIEW FALL FESTIVAL AND PARADE. ON OCTOBER 11TH, 2025.

THE HIGHVIEW HOLIDAY FEST ON DECEMBER 6TH, 2025 AND WEBSITE MAINTENANCE ITEM 64, AN ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING $20,000 FROM DISTRICT FOUR NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS TO LOUISVILLE METRO PARKS AND RECREATION TO FUND THE DISTRICT FOUR PARK ACTIVITIES, ACCOUNT FOR COMMUNITY EVENTS IN DISTRICT FOUR. ITEM 65, AN ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING $10,000 FROM DISTRICT FIVE NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS THROUGH THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET TO THETA OMEGA, INC. FOR FOOD AND SCHOOL SUPPLIES TO BE DISTRIBUTED TO THE PUBLIC DURING THE COMMUNITY BACK TO SCHOOL PICNIC ON JULY 19TH, 2025. ITEM 66, AN ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING $12,500 FROM NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER $5,000 EACH FROM DISTRICT 22 AND 23, AND 2500 FROM DISTRICT 13 TO THE LOUISVILLE METRO POLICE DEPARTMENT, SEVENTH DIVISION FOR VARIOUS COMMUNITY EVENTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 26, ITEM 67. AN ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING $5,000 FOR NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER $5,000 FROM DISTRICT EIGHT THROUGH THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET. TO THE HIGHLANDS COMMUNITY MINISTRIES, INC. TO FUND ITS INDIVIDUAL FAMILY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. ITEM 68, AN ORDINANCE PROHIBITING $12,285 FROM DISTRICT EIGHT FROM DISTRICT SIX NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS TO LOUISVILLE METRO PARKS TO COVER THE COST OF PRODUCTION, MARKETING, CATERING, MUSIC, EQUIPMENT SECURITY, AND TENT RENTAL FOR JAZZ AND CENTRAL PARK 2025 TO BE HELD ON AUGUST 24TH, 2025. GOING TO GET YOU AND ITEM 69, AN ORDINANCE $3,000 FROM NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER $3,000 FROM DISTRICT ONE TO METRO PARKS AND RECREATION FOR COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ALGONQUIN COMMUNITY DAY. SUMMER CLOSEOUT TO BE HELD AUGUST 2ND, 2025, THE FOLLOWING LEGISLATION WAS ASSIGNED TO BUDGET COMMITTEE. ITEM 70, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 091, SERIES 2025, AN ORDINANCE 092, SERIES 2025 RELATING TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 2026 OPERATING AND CAPITAL BUDGET, RESPECTIVELY, BY TRANSFERRING $50,000 FROM THE DISTRICT 20 NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUND TO THE DISTRICT 20 CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE FUND. ITEM 71 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 101, SERIES 2024 RELATING TO FISCAL YEAR 2024 2025 CAPITAL BUDGET BY CHANGING THE PROJECT TITLE AND DESCRIPTION OF THE COMMUNITY BOAT RAMP AND DOCK TO THE COMMUNITY BOATHOUSE, RAMP AND DOCK. ITEM 72 AN ORDINANCE CREATING A NEW SECTION OF LOUISVILLE JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 20 REGARDING THE S. THE ASSESSMENT OF ADDITIONAL FEES AND COSTS FOR THE PURPOSE OF PAYING EXPENSES FOR COURTHOUSES, BONDS RELATED TO THEM, AND ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSES OF THE JEFFERSON CIRCUIT AND DISTRICT COURT. ITEM 73 A RESOLUTION OF INTENT. THE LOUISVILLE JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT TO FINANCE THE ACQUISITION, CONSTRUCTION, RENOVATION, AND IMPROVEMENT OF CERTAIN CAPITAL PROJECTS IN THE LOUISVILLE, JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT AND ITS AGENCIES AND DEPARTMENTS FROM THE PROCEEDS OF ONE OR MORE PROPOSED ISSUES OF GENERAL OBLIGATION, BONDS, AND GENERAL OBLIGATION. NOTES. THE FOLLOWING LEGISLATION WAS ASSIGNED TO EQUITY, COMMUNITY AFFAIRS, HOUSING, HEALTH AND EDUCATION COMMITTEE. ITEM 74 RESOLUTION HONORING THE REVEREND DOCTOR JAMES FERGUSON BY DEDICATING THE CORNER, THE CORNER OF 12TH STREET AND WEST JEFFERSON STREET IS REVEREND DOCTOR JAMES FERGUSON WAY IN HER HONOR. ITEM 75 RESOLUTION HONORING THE REVEREND DOCTOR GREGORY FRANZ SMITH BY DEDICATING THE CORNERS OF DIXIE HIGHWAY AND WAGON LANE, CHARMERS COURT AND WAGON LANE, LONELY LANE AND NATHAN LANE, NEW MILLENNIUM DRIVE AND NATHAN LANE, AND SEVENTH STREET ROAD AND NATHAN LANE AS REVEREND DOCTOR GREGORY SMITH WAY IN HIS HONOR. ITEM 76 RESOLUTION HONORING ANITA BROWN BY DEDICATING THE CORNER OF VICTORIA AVENUE AND TRAIL AS ANITA BROWN WAY IN HER HONOR. ITEM 77 RESOLUTION ENCOURAGING PARENTS AND GUARDIANS TO BE AWARE OF THEIR CHILDREN'S WHEREABOUTS AND ACTIVITIES, PARTICULARLY DURING AFTER SCHOOL AND NIGHTTIME HOURS. THE FOLLOWING LEGISLATION WAS ASSIGNED TO LABOR AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE. ITEM 78 RESOLUTION PURSUANT TO THE CAPITAL AND OPERATING BUDGET

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CONTRACT FOR LOUISVILLE METRO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR FY. FINANCIAL ADVICE ON COMPLEX FINANCIAL AGREEMENTS, DEAL STRUCTURES AND TAX INCREMENT FINANCING. COMMONWEALTH ECONOMIC PARTNERS, LLC $108,000. THE FOLLOWING LEGISLATION WAS ASSIGNED TO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE. ITEM 79 ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE CLOSURE OF AN UNIMPROVED ALLEY BETWEEN WHEELER AVENUE AND CUYAHOGA STREET, CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 0.015 ACRES AND BEING IN LOUISVILLE METRO. CASE NUMBER 25 STR CLOSURE 0030. ITEM 80. AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE ZONING OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 8000 NATIONAL TURNPIKE, CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 0.34 ACRES AND BEING IN LOUISVILLE METRO CASE NUMBER 25, ZONE 0039. ITEM 81 AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO ZONING OF PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 7304 BOND MILL ROAD AND 7205 BRISCO LANE, CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 5.87 ACRES AND BEING IN LOUISVILLE METRO CASE NUMBER 24, ZONE 0131. ITEM 82. AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE ZONING PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 4922 PRESTON HIGHWAY AND 1129 AND 1131 ROSE DRIVE, CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 0.52 ACRES AND BEING IN LOUISVILLE METRO CASE NUMBER 25, ZONE 0036. ITEM 83, AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE ZONING OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 113 NORTH WENZEL STREET, CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 0.04 ACRES AND BEING LOUISVILLE METRO CASE NUMBER 25 00040. ITEM NUMBER 84, AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE DESIGNATION OF THE CHICKASAW NEIGHBORHOOD AS A LOCAL PRESERVATION DISTRICT, AND THE ADDITION OF CHICKASAW TO THE LIST OF LOCAL PRESERVATION DISTRICTS IN LMCO 32.2 52A CASE NUMBER 24 LANDMARK 0005 READ IN FULL. ALL RIGHT, WITH NO ANNOUNCEMENTS. THIS CONCLUDES OUR MEETING. OUR NEXT MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR THURSDAY, AUGUST 14TH, 2025 AT 6 P.M. WITHOUT OBJECTION, WE ARE ADJOURNED.

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