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ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY. THIS IS THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE PUBLIC 
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WORKS COMMITTEE. THIS MEETING IS BEING HELD PURSUANT TO KRS 61.826 AND COUNCIL RULE FIVE A 
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JOINED IN CHAMBER BY COUNCILMAN BRATCHER, COUNCILMAN JOSEPH, COUNCILMAN BENSON AND 
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COUNCILWOMAN PURVIS. YOU STAND OKAY? I'M OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND COUNCILMAN HERNDON. I THINK I 
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GOT EVERYBODY. WE HAVE ONE TOPIC. AND SINCE COUNCILMAN MARINO WEBER LIGHTENED THE MOOD A LITTLE BIT IN THE LABOR AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, I'VE GOT THEME MUSIC TO START THE TOPIC TODAY. SNOW. SNOW, SNOW. IT WON'T BE LONG BEFORE WE'LL ALL BE THERE WITH SNOW. SNOW. SO WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT WE'D BE TALKING ABOUT SNOW IN JULY? BUT I'M GLAD THAT WE ARE ONE. BUT WE HAD THIS ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FOR EARLIER IN THE YEAR AND FOR OTHER GOOD REASONS. WE'VE WE'VE PUT IT OFF TO NOW, AND I THINK WE'VE GOT A BETTER PRODUCT TO HEAR SINCE WE HAVE DELAYED IT TILL TILL NOW. I'VE BEEN JOINED IN CHAMBER BY COUNCILMAN ANDREW. ANYBODY ELSE JUMP IN? NOPE. SO I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR KERN AND LET'S HEAR ABOUT SNOW. GOOD AFTERNOON. JENNIFER IS OUR CURRENT EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, LOUISVILLE METRO PUBLIC WORKS. 
          I'M JOINED TODAY WITH BILL BELL, OUR NEW DIRECTOR FOR OUR DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, AND YOU WANT TO PUT THE PRESENTATION UP? CAN WE GET THE PRESENTATION AT. 
          THERE WE GO. SO IN ADDITION TO THIS PRESENTATION, I BELIEVE YOUR PACKET INCLUDED, AND WE WILL GET INTO THIS, BUT THREE THINGS FROM A CONSULTANT THAT WE WORKED WITH TO GET SOME RECOMMENDATIONS. SO THE RECOMMENDATIONS, SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AROUND COSTS AND THEN ROUTE EVALUATION CRITERIA. SO THOSE ARE YOUR OTHER PDFS. AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE IN MORE DETAIL. SO AS WE ALL KNOW THIS YEAR WE HAD PRETTY INTENSE SNOW. VERY UNUSUAL EVENT. SO EARLY JANUARY WE HAD MORE THAN TEN INCHES OF SNOW, WHICH ISN'T TYPICAL FOR ONE EVENT. AND THAT WAS FOLLOWED IMMEDIATELY BY WEEKS OF TEMPERATURES BELOW FREEZING. SO ALSO ATYPICAL FOLLOWING THOSE FOLLOWING THAT EVENT. INTERNALLY WITH PUBLIC WORKS, WE DID SOME INTERVIEWS. 
          SO EVENT EXIT INTERVIEWS WITH PEOPLE THAT WE WORKED WITH DURING THAT SNOW EVENT. SO TALK TO JC, U OF L LOOMED A LOT OF PEOPLE TO GET A VARIETY OF FEEDBACK. GENERALLY WHILE IT WAS VERY FRESH AFTER THAT, WE DID BRING IN A CONSULTANT WHO WHO DOES ADVISORIES FOR SNOW 
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PROGRAMS. SO DPW, CLAUNCH AND COUNCILMAN HUDSON DID GET TO MEET WITH THEM AS WELL. THEY VISITED ON SITE AND THEY DID A DEEP DIVE OF OUR MEETING WITH STAFF, MEETING WITH DRIVERS, MANAGERS, ALL OF THE AGENCIES INVOLVED IN THIS, NO TEAM. SO NOT JUST PUBLIC WORKS, BUT ALSO PARKS AND VACANT LOTS. THEY TOOK A LOOK AT OUR FLEET. THEY MET WITH FLEET AND GOT A REALLY GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF OUR PROGRAM, OUR CURRENT CAPACITY AND SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE. SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DIVE RIGHT INTO THE RECOMMENDATIONS. AND GENERALLY THEY FALL UNDER A COUPLE CATEGORIES. SO CREATING A MORE DETAILED SNOW PLAN. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE OUR SNOW ROUTES. BUT AS FAR AS ANNUAL PLANNING, FORMALIZE WHAT WE'RE DOING ANNUALLY. WHETHER IT'S TRAINING, WHETHER IT IS PRE SNOW POST SNOW FOLLOW UPS. REALLY FORMALIZE HOW WE'RE WORKING OUR SNOW PLAN AND PUT THAT ON A CALENDAR. SO I KNOW IT'S SUMMER BUT YOU KNOW VERY VERY SOON SNOW PLANNING IS GOING TO START FOR NEXT YEAR. AND BEING READY FOR THAT. THE NEXT GUIDANCE IMPROVEMENT WOULD BE CREATING A LEVEL OF SERVICE STATEMENT. SO REALLY UNDERSTANDING HOW MANY LANE MILES OF PLOWING OR TREATMENT WE CAN DO BASED ON OUR CURRENT CAPACITY AND THAT BEING OUR EMPLOYEES AND OUR EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE. PART OF THAT SNOW CALENDAR WOULD BE AN ANNUAL PRE-SEASON EVENT. SO UPDATING ANY PROCEDURES THAT WE HAVE, MOVING TOWARDS A CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT. SO WRITING DOWN THE THINGS THAT WE LEARNED, WHICH WE LEARNED A LOT OF LESSONS THIS YEAR, BUT DOING THAT EVERY YEAR AND UPDATING, UPDATING HOW WE DO WHAT WE DO AND THEN HOLD INDICES AND ROUNDTABLES. SO DOCUMENTING THE LESSONS LEARNED EVERY SEASON. NEXT RECOMMENDATION, TOPIC STAFFING AND TRAINING. WE DO HAVE A TRAINING PROGRAM IN OUR SAFETY TEAM IS HERE TODAY. 
          BUT FORMALIZING THAT REALLY BRINGING IN OUR SNOW PARTNERS RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T INCLUDE THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT ASSIST ON THE SNOW TEAM, MAKING SURE THEY'RE INCLUDED IN EVERYTHING. 
          ALSO, LOOKING AT OUR CDL LICENSING. SO OPPORTUNITIES THERE AND THEN UNDERSTANDING FOR ESPECIALLY EMERGENCY EVENTS. WHO HAS A CDL. SO IN THIS PAST EVEN, WE WERE ASKED TO BRING IN PEOPLE WHO WEREN'T NECESSARILY IN CDL POOL, WHO HAD CDL TO BRING IN MORE PEOPLE WHO COULD OPERATE EQUIPMENT, AND MAKING THAT PART OF OUR STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE. SO IF YOU'RE AN EMERGENCY EVENT, WHAT THINGS CAN WE UTILIZE AUTOMATICALLY THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND TIME WRITING A MEMO OR ASKING PERMISSION OR THINGS LIKE THAT. IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT AS A SITUATION ESCALATES, STARTS TO HAPPEN. TREATMENT STRATEGIES. WE TYPICALLY AND HISTORICALLY HAVE WAITED UNTIL THERE'S AN INCH TO TWO INCHES OF SNOW ON, ON THE ROADWAYS BEFORE WE START PLOWING. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE US PLOW MORE OF. THE OTHER THING THAT WE HAVE DONE, AND THIS IS PART OF THE TRAINING, IS STARTING TO EMPOWER OUR DRIVERS TO KNOW WHEN TO PLOW. SO WE'VE GOT A VERY LARGE COUNTY. WEATHER EVENTS IMPACT PARTS OF THE COUNTY DIFFERENTLY THAN OTHERS. SO AS A DRIVER, EDUCATING AND TRAINING OUR TEAM ON, YOU NEED TO KNOW WHEN IT'S APPROPRIATE TO PUT YOUR PLOW DOWN. AND IT'S PROBABLY INAPPROPRIATE FOR EVERYONE IN THE COUNTY TO START PLOWING AT THE SAME TIME, BECAUSE FOR SOME AREAS, THAT'S TOO LATE, FOR SOME AREAS THAT'S TOO SOON. THE OTHER RECOMMENDATION IS TO BRING MORE OFTEN, AND PART OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS ALSO INCLUDE EQUIPMENT PURCHASES. SO RECOMMENDATIONS ON EQUIPMENT IF YOU'RE GOING TO PLOW MORE OFTEN, WE MAY NEED A DIFFERENT TYPE OF CUTTING EDGE MATERIAL. INSTALL SALT GRATES AT LOCATIONS. ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT HAPPENS WE HAVE A WE HAVE A SALT GRATE AT ONE OF OUR ROADS LOCATIONS, BUT NOT AT THE OTHERS. AND WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY WILL POUR THE SALT INTO THE TRUCKS AND IT FALLS THROUGH A GRATE AND IT BREAKS UP ANY CHUNKS OR ANYTHING THAT WHERE IT'S CREATED A LARGER BUNCH OF SALT THAN CAN BE PLACED ON THE 
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ROAD. SO WHAT THAT CAUSES IS IF IT'S NOT BROKEN UP, YOU'VE GOT THE DISPENSING MECHANISM ON THE TRUCK, IT WILL GET LOCKED UP. IT CAN, YOU KNOW, CAUSE A TRUCK TO HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE SHOP OR DRIVER TO HAVE TO STOP AND TRY TO FIX IT. THE NEXT EQUIPMENT RECOMMENDATION IS TO EXPAND AND UPGRADE BRIAN EQUIPMENT. WE ARE DOING SOME MORE RESEARCH ON OUR EQUIPMENT. WE DO CURRENTLY HAVE BRIAN EQUIPMENT. SOME OF IT IS BEYOND ITS RECOMMENDED SERVICE LIFE AND WE'LL GET INTO BUDGET. 
          THERE WERE SOME THERE WERE SOME BUDGETS WITHIN BUDGET DOLLARS WITHIN FLEET TO PROVIDE SOME BRINE TANKS. ADD ON BOARD SALT PRE-WETTING UNITS. SO RIGHT NOW THE WAY THAT WE ADD CALCIUM CHLORIDE. SO WHEN YOU GET TO A VERY LOW TEMPERATURE SO 20 DEGREES AND BELOW SALT ISN'T AS EFFECTIVE AS IT COULD BE IF YOU ADDED CALCIUM CHLORIDE TO IT. SO THE SALT IS GRANULAR. CALCIUM CHLORIDE IS A LIQUID. AND WE'VE BEEN LOADING SALT AND PLACING THE CALCIUM CHLORIDE ON TOP. BUT THE CONSISTENCY OF THAT MIXTURE ISN'T AS GOOD AS IT COULD BE IF THERE WAS AN ON BOARD WETTING UNIT. SO YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN AND NOT KNOWN SOME TRUCKS ON THE BACK OF IT. AS THE SALT IS COMING OUT, IT WOULD BE WETTING IT, SO IT WOULD BE MUCH MORE CONSISTENT AS FAR AS THE APPLICATION OF THAT, AND MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE AS FAR AS MELTING ANY ICE OR SNOW. CALIBRATE SALTS IN BRINE EQUIPMENT. SO GETTING A SCHEDULE TOGETHER WHERE WE'RE NOT JUST WORKING ON IS OUR FLEET READY, BUT ALSO IS IT CALIBRATED. AND WE HAVE AN IDEA ON HOW TO DO THAT THIS YEAR. AND THEN AND THIS GOES FOR THE FLEET GENERALLY. BUT EVALUATE WINTER FLEET NEEDS FOR 5 TO 10 YEARS. 
          WE ARE WORKING ON FORMALIZING WHAT OUR FLEET ROLLING REPLACEMENT WOULD BE. I KNOW THAT WE HAVE SOME IDEAS, BUT STARTING TO DIAL THAT IN, ESPECIALLY WITH RESPECT TO SNOW NEEDS. AND THEN CONSIDER ADDING ADDING A TRUCK WASH. RIGHT NOW I KNOW THAT SOLID WASTE IS WORKING ON A MOBILE TRUCK WASH. I KNOW THAT FLEET IS ALSO LOOKING AT SOME PILOTING FOR TRUCK WASHING, BUT THIS IS THERE'S MORE DETAIL IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT THE BETTER YOU CAN WASH YOUR VEHICLES, GET THAT SALT OFF. YOU'RE ADDING LONGEVITY TO YOUR FLEET. NEXT RECOMMENDATION TOPIC IS TECHNOLOGY WEATHER FORECASTING. SO WHAT'S IMPORTANT FOR MANAGING SNOW ISN'T JUST THE WEATHER OUTSIDE, BUT SPECIFICALLY THE PAVEMENT TEMPERATURES. SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE A WE CURRENTLY HAVE ACCESS TO DTN WEATHER. AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN GIVE US SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AROUND PAVEMENT TEMPERATURES. THEY HAVE ALSO RECOMMENDED THAT WE DO INSTALL SOME PERMANENT PAVEMENT TEMPERATURES SENSORS ACROSS THE COUNTY. AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE INVESTIGATING KYTC THEY ALREADY HAVE A COUPLE. THEY HAVE, I BELIEVE, THREE PAVEMENT SENSORS LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, IF THIS WAS SOMETHING WE ADDED, IS THIS BENEFICIAL TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS LIKE EMA? YOU KNOW, ARE THERE OTHER SUSTAINABILITY, OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT COULD BENEFIT FROM THIS? AND THEN IF WE ARE GOING TO ADD THOSE PAVEMENT SENSORS, MAKING SURE THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD COORDINATE WITH DATA THAT KYTC IS GETTING AS WELL, CONSIDER ADDING GPS TURN BY TURN IN VEHICLES. WE CURRENTLY WITH SOLID WASTE HAVE SOME SMART FLEET SOFTWARE THAT DOES DO TURN BY TURN. WE ARE LOOKING AT WHAT WOULD BE INVOLVED TO ADD THAT FOR SNOW AND GETTING SOME PRICING. AND ANOTHER ADD ON TO THAT WOULD BE LOOKING AT HOW TO AUTOMATE THAT DATA. SO IF A TRUCK IS USING THE TURN BY TURN, ALL OF THAT CAN BE AUTOMATED TO GO TO THE SNOW MAP THAT CAN UPDATE REAL TIME. AND THAT IS A LOT OF BACK END RADIO AND ADMINISTRATIVE WORK THAT WOULD NO LONGER HAVE TO BE DONE. IT WOULD BE MORE ACCURATE, MORE QUICKLY. UPDATED ROUTING. SO WE TALKED EARLIER ABOUT THE LEVEL OF SERVICE STATEMENT. SO UNDERSTANDING SPECIFICALLY HOW MUCH CAN WE PLOW OR TREAT WITH OUR CURRENT CAPACITY AGAINST THE MAP. SO SETTING UP YOU KNOW, WHAT EXACTLY ARE WE ABLE TO DO. AND THEN GOING FROM THERE AND THEN CLEARLY COMMUNICATE THE CRITERIA FOR ROUTES. THIS YEAR. WHAT WE LEARNED IS THAT OUR ROUTES HAVE NOT BEEN UPDATED IN QUITE SOME TIME. AND I KNOW JUST LOOKING AT THE MAPS, YOU CAN SEE 
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THAT THERE'S SOME THINGS ON THERE THAT MAYBE AREN'T QUITE RIGHT. THERE ARE ROADS THAT DIDN'T USED TO BE DEAD, ENDS THAT NOW ARE DEAD ENDS, BUT WE'RE STILL CLEANING DEAD END ROADS, AND THEN YOU'RE HAVING TO TURN A PRETTY BIG VEHICLE AROUND AT A DEAD END ROAD, WHICH IS ANOTHER PROBLEM. SO EVALUATING, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAS CHANGED OVER TIME AND THEN WHAT REALLY IS A COMMUNITY, WHAT ARE OUR PRIORITIES. AND THERE ARE IN THE ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION ON ROUTING RECOMMENDATIONS, SOME THINGS THAT I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE. SO UNDERSTANDING THE CLASS OF THE ROAD, THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC, THIS IS ONE THING THAT CAME UP IS THAT SINCE WE SINCE WE CREATED THESE MAPS, THE POPULATION WITHIN THE COUNTY HAS MOVED AROUND. SO WE HAVE CRITICAL FACILITIES THAT WEREN'T ON THE MAP. WE HAVE MAYBE SCHOOLS THAT WEREN'T ON THE MAP. 
          WE HAVE JUST AREAS OF POPULATION INCREASE WHERE THOSE WEREN'T PRIORITIZED BECAUSE THAT WASN'T CONSIDERED AT THE TIME THE MAPS WERE MADE. SO UNDERSTANDING EMERGENCY ROUTES AND THEN MAKING THAT PART OF THE COMMUNICATION PLAN, I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY OF THE EMERGENCY ROUTES. 
          I KNOW ONE COMPLICATION IS THAT I THINK MOST OF DOWNTOWN IS AN EMERGENCY ROUTE, AND YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO PARK ON AN EMERGENCY ROUTE. AND THEN THAT THAT CREATES OTHER PROBLEMS. SO GETTING CLARIFICATION AROUND THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT OPTIONS EXIST IN AREAS FOR USING EMERGENCY ROUTES OR CHANGING THEM THAT WORK BETTER. AND THEN CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, IF THERE ARE AREAS WHERE WE CAN'T ALLOW PARKING SO THAT WE CAN CLEAR SNOW, WHERE DO WE HELP PEOPLE FIGURE OUT HOW TO PARK? BECAUSE THEY STILL HAVE TO GET TO WORK. SO IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD PARTNER WITH PARK OR PRIVATE? LOTS TO MAYBE OFFER, YOU KNOW, A NO COST OR REDUCED COST PARKING DURING AN EMERGENCY EVENT? THEY'RE ALSO ON THE ROUTING ARE IN TALKING WITH OUR DRIVERS, THERE ARE TECHNIQUES THAT THEY USE WHEN THEY GO OUT TO PLOW THAT MAYBE THE MAPS DIDN'T CONSIDER. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THINGS LIKE THE MAP WAS CREATED IN 2D IN AN OFFICE, BUT WE'RE PLOWING IT IN THE REAL WORLD. SO TAKING THE ROUTES THAT WE HAVE AND ASKING, ASKING FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT KNOW HOW TO PLOW IT, YOU KNOW, HEY, WHAT AREAS ON THE MAP ARE WE GOING TO HIGHLIGHT THAT WE'RE GOING TO APPLY A CERTAIN TECHNIQUE, OR LOOKING AT AREAS WHERE, HEY, THIS PLOW IS GOING TO BE WAY TOO BIG FOR THIS, THIS ROUTE TO PLOW. SO STARTING TO PAIR UP NOT JUST THE ROUTES, BUT THE STRATEGIES AND THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE'RE ATTACKING THOSE ROUTES WITH. AND THEN ONE SUGGESTION WAS BREAKING THE ROUTES INTO ZONES TO ADD EFFICIENCY. SO RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, ONE TRUCK WOULD DO SHELBYVILLE ROAD OR DIXIE HIGHWAY. THAT'S A PRETTY LONG ROUTE. START TO BREAK THOSE INTO ZONES SO THAT YOU CAN START ATTACKING THE AREAS OF HIGH TRAFFIC MORE QUICKLY. SO RECOMMENDED COSTS. SUMMARY. AND AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE ARE MEETING WITH FLEET TO GO THROUGH OUR FISCAL YEAR, FISCAL YEAR 26 BUDGET. PART OF THAT BUDGET INCLUDES SOME FUNDING FOR BRINE TANKS. WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU DO WE WANT TO USE ALL OF OUR FLEET? DO DO WE WANT TO USE A SECTION OF THE FLEET THIS YEAR? THERE ARE QUITE A FEW RECOMMENDATIONS HERE. SO ROLLING OUT THIS PLAN IS SOMETHING THAT ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN IMMEDIATELY. IT MAY TAKE A COUPLE YEARS TO GET EVERYTHING UP TO SPEED AND GET ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN PLACE. SO WE TALKED ABOUT PLOW BLADES USING A DIFFERENT MATERIAL. IF WE'RE GOING TO PLOW MORE TRUCK ATTACHED PRE-WETTING SYSTEMS, BRINE TANKS, IF YOU HAVE BRINE TANKS, YOU HAVE TO MAKE BRINE. YOU HAVE TO STORE THE BRINE USING ROUTING SOFTWARE, GETTING MORE MODERNIZED WEATHER FORECASTING THAT MAY INCLUDE ADDING PAVEMENT SENSORS, ANY ANY TRAINING THAT WE NEED. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO BE ROUTING DIFFERENTLY, MAYBE WE NEED TO BE TRAINING OUR PEOPLE DIFFERENTLY, BUILDING AND CALIBRATION SERVICES TO OUR FLEET READINESS, AND THEN POTENTIALLY ADDING A TRUCK WASH. SO AS FAR AS COSTS, THESE ARE TYPICALLY THE LIST OF COSTS THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT. AND WE ARE WORKING WITH FLEET TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT, FIND THE LEAST EXPENSIVE PRODUCT THAT WOULD STILL WORK. 
          COMMUNICATION. WE TALKED ABOUT PART OF THE ANNUAL PLAN WOULD BE THE COMMUNICATION. SO WHEN ARE 
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WE COMMUNICATING? HAVING SOME READY MADE COMMUNICATION PACKETS AROUND, YOU KNOW AN EVENT IS COMING. THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT. THESE ARE THINGS YOU CAN DO. YOU KNOW WHEN AN EVENT IS HERE, THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT, WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO TO FIND OTHER RESOURCES THAT THEY MIGHT NEED. AND THEN FOR INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL, CREATING A LIST OF PREDEFINED TERMS AND PHRASES AND STARTING TO USE THAT THAT SAME VOCABULARY INTERNALLY ACROSS ALL THE DIVISIONS, AND THEN HELPING TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ON WHAT THOSE WORDS MEAN. CREATING AN INTERNAL COMMUNICATION PLAN. WE COMMUNICATE PRETTY GOOD INTERNALLY, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY IT'S NOT A FORMALIZED PLAN. AND I THINK MOVING TO THAT COULD HELP FILL ANY GAPS THAT MIGHT OCCUR. CONSIDER USING INTERNAL TEXT MESSAGES. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING. TALK TO EMA EARLIER TODAY. WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE ON SNOW TEAM WHEN IT'S FULLY ACTIVATED, MAKING SURE THAT THOSE PEOPLE ALL HAVE THE SAME INFORMATION AT THE SAME TIME IS VERY DIFFICULT. SO YOU MIGHT HAVE SOMEBODY WHO IS COMING IN, THEY HAVEN'T CHECKED EMAIL OR THEY MISSED A PHONE CALL OR, OR SOMETHING. AND THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING ON OPERATIONS. SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE THAT DIALED INTO THEIR TECH. SO FINDING OUT LIKE THE MOST IMPORTANT MESSAGES THAT NEED TO GET OUT, IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN DO AT LEAST INTERNAL TEXT MESSAGES TO MAKE SURE THAT REALLY IMPORTANT INFORMATION IS COMMUNICATED TO EVERYBODY SIMULTANEOUSLY. USING SEPARATE RADIO CHANNELS FOR OUR ROADS DISTRICTS, FOR THE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS, IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO LOOK AT. AND THEN DEFINING THE FREQUENCY OF COMMUNICATION. SO THROUGHOUT AN EVENT, KNOWING AND EVEN EXTERNALLY, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE. IS IT EVERY FOUR HOURS FOR A LESSER EVENT. IS IT AT SHIFT CHANGE. WHAT INFORMATION IS BEING COMMUNICATED SO THAT WE'RE NOT MISSING ANYTHING WHEN WE'RE WE'RE GOING FROM, YOU KNOW, A DAY SHIFT TO A NIGHT SHIFT. OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS. WE'RE WORKING WITH 311 ON A LOT OF DIFFERENT TOPICS RIGHT NOW. BUT ONE THING THAT BECAME VERY, VERY CLEAR AT THE END OF THE JANUARY EVENT IS THAT 311 IS NOT REALLY SET UP FOR COMPLAINTS RELATED TO SNOW. SO WHEN YOU CALL 311 AND YOU HAVE A COMPLAINT RELATED TO SNOW, RIGHT NOW, THE ONLY OPTION IS A RIGHT OF WAY OBSTRUCTION. 
          SO DURING SNOW AND THEN AT THE END OF SNOW, WE PULL DOWN ALL THE COMPLAINTS. AND THEY WERE ALL RIGHT AWAY OBSTRUCTION. THERE WERE 7000 COMPLAINTS. AND IT WAS SO MUCH DATA. IT WAS SO MUCH INFORMATION THAT YOU COULDN'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT AT ALL. SOME OF THE CALLS DIDN'T HAVE ADDRESSES IN THEM THERE. THERE WAS NOTHING WE COULD DO TO FIX THESE PROBLEMS AT THIS POINT. SO WORKING WITH THREE ONE, ONE TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WE NEED TO GIVE YOUR OPERATORS TO HELP DIRECT THINGS, TO HELP GET THOSE CONCERNS TO WHERE THEY NEED TO BE, AND TO START FLAGGING THINGS THAT ARE ACTIONABLE AND ARE AN EMERGENCY OR NEED IMMEDIATE ASSISTANCE. THE OTHER THING THAT CAME UP DURING JANUARY WAS WE HAD NOT SHARED WITH THREE ONE, ONE ANY KIND OF SCRIPT, AND THIS IS SOMETHING I THINK I WORKED WITH WITH SEVERAL COUNCIL OFFICES. AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE HAVE THESE FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS, WHAT SHOULD WE BE TELLING THEM? SO CODIFYING, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CALL PUBLIC WORKS FRONT DESK HERE, HERE'S THE RESPONSE. FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF QUESTIONS, YOU CALL 311. YOU GET THE SAME ANSWER. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE SHARED WITH COUNCIL TO HELP YOU ALL GUIDE CONSTITUENTS AS WELL. 
          SO USING THE SAME VOCABULARY, GETTING SIMILAR RESPONSES TO FAQS, MAKING THAT INFORMATION ACCESSIBLE. SO I KIND OF TOUCHED ON THIS. NORMALLY WHEN WE HAVE A LOWER LEVEL SNOW EVENT, IT MIGHT BE THAT JUST ROADS AND OPERATIONS CAN TAKE CARE OF IT. IF YOU HAVE AN ELEVATED SNOW EVENT, YOU'RE LOOKING AT BRINGING IN THE FULL SNOW TEAM. SO ACTIVATING SOLID WASTE PARKS, VACANT LOTS, ALL OF OUR ADMIN SNOW COMMAND ON THE MAP. IT'S A LOT DIFFERENT. AND THEN YOU MIGHT ALSO IF YOU HAVE AN EXCEPTIONALLY HIGH LEVEL OF SNOW, BE BRINGING ON BOARD YOUR EMERGENCY CONTRACTOR. SO ALL OF THESE EVENTS WORK A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. BUT CREATING CREATING A PLAN THAT ESCALATES SO THAT THOSE THINGS START HAPPENING REGARDLESS, YOU KNOW, HEY, WE THOUGHT WE'D HAVE THIS MUCH SNOW. IT'S ROLLING INTO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE'RE GOING TO GET 12IN OF SNOW OR SOMETHING. SO IT'S JUST TURN THE PAGE. THIS IS THE NEXT STEP. THIS IS WHAT WE DO AND NOT HAVE TO BE PLANNING FOR AN EVENT DURING AN EVENT. SO THE NEXT STEPS 
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GENERALLY WE ARE WORKING INTERNALLY AGAIN IDENTIFYING OUR OUR STAKEHOLDERS AND EVERYBODY THAT'S PART OF SNOW TEAM SUPPORT SNOW TEAM AND ESTABLISHING SOME RECURRING MEETINGS WORKING WITH FLEET AND THEN IDENTIFYING ANY NECESSARY TRAINING OR THINGS THAT WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND GET MOVING. THESE ARE GENERALLY THE TOPIC WORK GROUPS. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO'VE GRACIOUSLY VOLUNTEERED. SO GENERALLY WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT FORMALIZING THE THINGS THAT WE DO. SO CREATING SOPS DOCUMENTATION AND THEN FORMALIZING THAT AGENCY COORDINATION. SO PART OF PREPARING FOR SNOW EVERY YEAR COULD BE CIRCULATING A CONTACT LIST AND SAYING, HEY, FOR WHICH DIVISION? OR YOU KNOW, WHO, WHO'S THE OPERATIONS CONTACT AT AT U OF L OR WHO IS THE UPS CONTACT. BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO BE MEETING PEOPLE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO HELP AN EMERGENCY DURING AN EMERGENCY. SO STARTING TO HAVE THAT ROSTER AND MAKING SURE THAT THOSE ARE UPDATED AS FREQUENTLY AS THEY NEED TO, FLEET AND EQUIPMENT WE ARE TALKING WITH WITH FLEET, THAT'S ALSO A WORK GROUP TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, HOW HOW DO WE WANT TO START ROLLING OUT THE UPGRADES THAT WE WOULD BE MAKING TO THE FLEET THAT WOULD BE COMPATIBLE WITH HOW WE WANT TO START APPROACHING SNOW ON THE ROUTING? WE HAVE, AGAIN, YOU'VE GOT SOME SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I THINK MAKE A LOT OF SENSE. SO MAKING SURE THAT THE ROUTING ALIGNS WITH WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE AS AS A COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, THE BIGGEST THINGS, UNDERSTANDING WHERE THE WHERE THE POPULATION IS, THAT AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC, UNDERSTANDING THE TOPOGRAPHY, CRITICAL FACILITIES, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO FOR THIS YEAR, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT FOR ROUTING IS STARTING TO DO THAT FIRST BRUSH OF CLEANUP. SO MAKING SURE THERE AREN'T STREETS ON THERE THAT DON'T NEED TO BE ON THERE. IF THERE WERE CRITICAL FACILITIES WE WERE MADE AWARE OF THAT WEREN'T ON THE MAP, MAKING SURE THOSE ARE ON THERE. ALSO, LOOKING AT SOME OF THE STREETS THAT WEREN'T ON THE MAP BECAUSE OF, SAY, THEIR CLASSIFICATION OR VOLUME OF TRAFFIC, BUT ARE VERY, VERY STEEP. SO, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT SOMEBODY ON A HUGE INCLINE. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE ON A MAP. SO THIS YEAR OUR PLAN IS TO GET GET THOSE CRITICAL UPDATES MADE, CIRCULATE THAT MAP IN THE NEXT 60 DAYS AND THEN MOVING FORWARD, TAKING A DEEPER DIVE ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO REALLY GET THAT MAP DIALED IN. COMMUNICATION AND EDUCATION. 
          WORKING WITH OUR COMMUNICATION DIRECTOR TO FIGURE OUT AGAIN, WHAT ARE THOSE PREFABRICATED PACKAGES FOR WHEN AN EVENT HITS? STARTING TO EDUCATE PEOPLE AROUND WHY DO WE PLOW? WHAT? WHY ARE CERTAIN THINGS ON A ROUTE? YOU KNOW WHY. WHY IS THIS SNOWPLOW DRIVING DOWN MY STREET AND THE PLOWS UP? YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE ANY NUMBER OF REASONS HOW HOW SALT WORKS. I KNOW WE GOT A LOT OF QUESTIONS AROUND, YOU KNOW, TRUCK WOULD GO DOWN THE STREET AND SPREAD SALT. THEY HAD THEIR PLOW UP. WHY DID THEY DO THAT? WELL, THEY WANT TO SPREAD THE MATERIAL, GIVE IT A LITTLE TIME TO WORK, COME BACK, PLOW IT. AND I THINK PEOPLE ARE NEVER THRILLED ABOUT SNOW, BUT I THINK STARTING TO HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING IS A REALLY GOOD NEXT STEP. TECHNOLOGY WE TALKED ABOUT. SO UPGRADING, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S IN THE VEHICLE OR IT'S PART OF OUR REPORTING TO THE PUBLIC WITH THE SNOW MAP TRAINING AND TEAM SUPPORT. SO ANY CHANGES THAT WE'RE MAKING TO HOW WE'RE APPROACHING SNOW MAKE MAKING SURE THOSE ARE INCORPORATED INTO OUR OUR TRAINING AND THE WAY WE SUPPORT OUR TEAM. AND THEN LOOKING AT BUDGETS SO WE KNOW THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT ISN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE ROLLED OUT ALL AT ONCE. BUT WHAT DOES YOU KNOW, WHAT SHOULD THAT REASONABLY LOOK LIKE AS WE'RE ROLLING INTO BUILDING UP THIS SNOW TEAM? AND WITH THAT, WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. GREAT GREAT PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. SO I'M GOING TO LIMIT MYSELF TO THREE QUESTIONS AND THEN TURN IT OVER TO THE QUEUE. MY FIRST QUESTION IS. AT A PREVIOUS PRESENTATION YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THE PROGRAM BY WHICH PUBLIC WORKS PEOPLE GOT THEIR CDL LICENSE NEEDED TO BE RELOOKED AT, BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE COMING IN GETTING THEIR CDL AND THEN PARLAYING THAT INTO A RESUME BULLET AND GOING AND GETTING A JOB ELSEWHERE. HAS THAT BEEN RECTIFIED OR FIXED? SO WE DO, WITH THE HELP OF OUR HR TEAM, WE DO NOW HAVE A PROMISSORY NOTE. SO IF YOU COME IN YOU ARE REQUIRED TO STAY A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME. AND IF YOU LEAVE BEFORE THAT AMOUNT OF 
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TIME, YOU DO HAVE TO PAY BACK A PORTION OF THAT TRAINING AND THOSE FEES. GREAT, GREAT. SECOND QUESTION IS, IS THERE AN APPETITE TO USE CONTRACTORS FOR MORE THAN A STOPGAP WHEN A LARGE SNOW EVENT COMES IN, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU MENTIONED DOING A OR GETTING A TRUCK WASH. IS THERE A I COULD EASILY SEE HOW THAT COULD BE FARMED OUT TO SOMEBODY THAT WASHES TRUCKS THAT COULD EXACTLY BE FARMED OUT? SO THAT IS PART OF WITH WITH SOLID WASTE. THAT'S SOMETHING THEY'RE WORKING ON. THEY HAVE A COMPANY THAT COMES IN AND THEY WASH TRUCKS FOR WHAT I BELIEVE IS A VERY REASONABLE PRICE, GIVEN THE SAVINGS AS FAR AS VEHICLE MAINTENANCE THAT WE COULD HAVE. 
          WHAT ABOUT SNOW PLOWING ALSO? SO FOR THE PLOWING, THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE HAD AN EMERGENCY CONTRACT AND THAT'S GREAT. BUT GETTING THOSE DETAILS FLUSHED OUT. SO HOW WOULD WE USE A CONTRACTOR. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO USE THEM FOR. BECAUSE THAT BECAME THE BIG QUESTION. WE HAD TO SCRAMBLE. WE BROUGHT THE CONTRACTOR IN. IT WAS GREAT THAT WE COULD BECAUSE OUR PEOPLE WERE EXHAUSTED. IT WAS, I THINK, DAY SEVEN OF EVERYBODY JUST WORKING ALL THE TIME. BUT HAVING A BETTER PLAN IN PLACE. SO UNDERSTANDING IF YOU BRING THE CONTRACTOR ON, WHAT TYPES OF EQUIPMENT ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE, WHAT ROADWAYS IS THAT GOING TO BE BEST TO SERVICE, AND HOW DO WE SPLIT THAT WORKLOAD. SO IF THEY'RE GOING TO COME IN WITH SMALLER TRUCKS, MAYBE THEY NEED TO DO THE MORE OF THE COLLECTOR LEVEL ROADS. WE HAVE LARGER TRUCKS ON HAND. WE CAN STILL WORK ON ARTERIALS, MAJOR ARTERIALS, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IT WOULD BE A MATTER OF WHAT WOULD WE WANT THEM TO WORK ON WOULD BE THE QUESTION. OKAY. AND LAST QUESTION FOR ME. YOU WENT THROUGH A LOT OF GOOD PLANNING AND PREP. DO YOU HAVE A DATE IN MIND THAT IS GAME DAY, THAT IF IT SNOWS ON THIS DAY, WE'RE READY TO GO? I THINK THAT WE ARE READY TO GO REGARDLESS. A LOT OF THESE. I MEAN, I THINK OUR SNOW TEAM, I'M REALLY PROUD OF THEM. I MEAN, THEY THEY SHOWED UP. WE I THINK WE HAD ONE PERSON WHO WAS OUT SICK FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THE LAST EVENT. OTHERWISE EVERYBODY SHOWED UP, NO QUESTIONS ASKED. CHALLENGE YOU A LITTLE BIT ON THAT. WHAT'S THAT? I'M GOING TO CHALLENGE YOU A LITTLE BIT ON THAT OKAY. YOU'RE READY TO GO RIGHT NOW. WE WOULDN'T HAVE WHAT YOU JUST PRESENTED RIGHT. YOU DON'T HAVE THE. SO ALL OF THE ROUTES IN PLACE, ALL THE TRAINING THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED. I AGREE THAT ALL THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. BUT IF IT WERE DONE RIGHT NOW AND YOU'RE READY TO GO RIGHT NOW, WE WOULDN'T HAVE IT. SO I'M ASKING EVERYTHING THAT'S HERE. IS IT ALL COME TO A POINT? SORRY. SO BECAUSE BUDGETS ARE A THING, WE CAN'T JUST GO AND BUY ALL OF THE EQUIPMENT AND ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE TO ROLL ON ALL OF THIS, ALL OF THESE THINGS INTO THE SNOW PROGRAM. THERE IS SOME FUNDING WITHIN FLEETS BUDGET. SO THE QUESTION BECOMES, YOU KNOW, DO WE WANT TO USE ALL OF THAT FOR BUYING NEW BRINE TANKS? DO WE WANT TO SPLIT AND DO PART OF IT WITH PART OF THE HEAVIER VEHICLES AND UPGRADE THEM WITH THE FULL EQUIPMENT? THE OTHER DISCUSSION WE HAVE TO HAVE IS WITH THE STATE OF KENTUCKY. SO WE DO HAVE A MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT WITH THEM TO MAINTAIN, WHICH INCLUDES SNOW STATE ROUTES, NOT INTERSTATES, BUT SURFACE STREETS AND OUR EQUIPMENT THAT WE PURCHASE AND WE USE IS UNDER THEIR PURVIEW. 
          SO THEY ARE ON THE LIST TO START HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH. I MAY NOT BE ASKING MY QUESTION CORRECTLY. I'M MORE INTERESTED IN IS THERE A DATE UP ON THE WALL SOMEWHERE THAT YOU'RE WORKING TOWARD TO GET WHATEVER PLAN IT IS, WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO DO A TRUCK WASH, WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO GET AN EXTRA BLADE, WHATEVER IT IS WE'RE GOING TO DO, IS THERE A DATE UP ON THE WALL SOMEWHERE THAT SAYS, WE'RE GOING TO DO IT ALL BY THAT DATE? I DON'T HAVE THE DATE THAT ALL OF IT WOULD BE EXECUTED AGAIN, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BUDGETS WOULD BE. WE WOULD HAVE A BETTER IDEA, A TIMELINE, I WOULD SAY LATER THIS FALL AS WE START TO GET MORE OF THE DATA TOGETHER. I MEAN, AS AS FAR AS THE SNOW PROGRAM HERE, WE HAVE A SNOW PROGRAM. THE RECOMMENDATIONS HERE ARE THINGS THAT WILL HELP US TO BE MORE EFFECTIVE. SO WE DO SNOW. WE DO PRETTY GOOD. BUT IF WE COULD BE MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE, IF WE COULD PUT LESS WORKLOAD ON OUR DRIVERS, MAKE THEIR JOBS A LITTLE BIT EASIER, MUCH SAFER. THOSE ARE ALL ENHANCEMENTS WITHIN THE SNOW PROGRAM THAT WILL MAKE IT MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE. YEAH, AND I THINK THE UPDATED ROUTES WILL HELP THAT EFFICIENCY AS WELL. AND WE ARE WE'VE HEARD TODAY 60 DAYS. IS IT 
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APPROXIMATELY 60 DAYS. WE GET CLEAN UP THOSE ROUTES. AND LIKE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR KERN SAID, GET SOME OF THESE DEAD END ROUTES OFF OF THE MAP AND UPDATE IT, WHICH HASN'T BEEN UPDATED IN OVER 20 YEARS. SO YEAH, THAT THAT WILL HELP OUT TREMENDOUSLY. AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE AND THIS I JUST HEARD THIS FROM FLEET. THERE'S FIVE TRUCKS THAT ARE BEING EQUIPPED NOW AND I THINK THAT WAS FROM A PREVIOUS BUDGET. SO THAT IS THAT'S NOT THE CURRENT BUDGET. SO OKAY 60 DAYS IS A GOOD ONE. I CAN REMEMBER TRICK OR TREATING IN THE SNOW WHEN I WAS A KID. SO 60 DAYS FROM NOW PUT US IN OCTOBER. THAT'S GOOD. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN OWEN, DID HE SAY HIS NAME? THANK YOU CHAIR. THAT PRESENTATION. COUNCILMAN OWEN. YEAH. I'M SORRY. MY FAULT. BILL, I NEED YOU TO IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD. OH, BILL BELL, DIRECTOR DOT. THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILMAN. THANK YOU. SO I THINK I'M GOING TO START OFF WITH A REQUEST AS OPPOSED TO A QUESTION. THE PRESENTATION WAS INCREDIBLY COMPREHENSIVE, AND IT'S A LITTLE DAUNTING BECAUSE IT SHOWS HOW COMPLEX THE WHOLE PROCESS IS AND HOW MANY DEPARTMENTS IT TOUCHES, AND ALL OF THE THINGS WHERE WE CAN MAKE IMPROVEMENTS AND ALL OF THAT. SO BECAUSE OF THAT COMPLEXITY, I'LL TAKE A STEP BACK. THIS SNOW EVENT WAS PROBABLY THE WORST TWO WEEKS I'VE HAD SINCE I WAS ON COUNCIL. IT WAS IT WAS MISERABLE AND I KNOW IT WAS FOR NOT JUST ME. IT'S NOT ABOUT ME. IT WAS. 
          IT WAS FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. AND SO I STILL HAVE PEOPLE ASKING ME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT ARE WE DOING, WHAT HAVE WE DONE. AND SO I WONDER, THERE ARE SO MANY ITEMS THAT WE'VE GONE ACROSS HERE THAT WE'VE TOUCHED ON HERE, I WONDER, I DON'T WANT YOU GUYS TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME, YOU KNOW, REPORTING BACK, BUT IF WE COULD HAVE A LIST SAYING, HERE'S WHAT WE'VE DONE THIS AND WE AND IN THREE MONTHS OR WHATEVER OR IN IN SIX MONTHS AND KIND OF KEEP REVISITING ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TOUCHED ON TODAY AND SAYING, HERE'S WHAT WE ARE, HAVE COMPLETED. WHEN YOU REPORT BACK, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE STILL WORKING ON. HERE ARE THINGS WE LOOKED INTO AND DECIDED NOT TO PURSUE. 
          FOR WHATEVER REASON, I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY, REALLY HELPFUL BECAUSE OF THE COMPLEXITY OF ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. SO THAT'S A REQUEST THAT I THAT I WOULD MAKE. AND, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S EVERY THREE MONTHS OR EVERY SIX MONTHS OR, OR WHENEVER, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR COUNCIL. AND THEN HONESTLY, I WOULD PASS THAT ALONG TO MY CONSTITUENTS BECAUSE THEY KEEP ASKING ME THOSE QUESTIONS AS WELL. SO THAT'S THAT'S NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, THE SNOW ROUTES I THINK ARE A BIG PART OF THE QUESTION AND CONCERN THAT I GOT BACK FROM MY CONSTITUENTS. AND SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S TIME THIS YEAR TO DO THIS, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO BE ABLE TO INTERACT WITH MY CONSTITUENTS WITH THE NEW WITH THE UPDATED SNOW ROUTE, BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES THEY KNOW EVEN MORE THAN I DO, WHERE SOME OF THE PROBLEM POINTS ARE AND WHERE SOME, SOME THINGS EXIST. I MEAN, I'LL GIVE YOU ONE EXAMPLE. IN MY DISTRICT, IF YOU GO UP MAIN STREET FROM BROWNSBORO ROAD AT THE CLIFTON KROGER, JANE STREET IS VERY STEEP TO GET UP INTO CRESCENT HILL, AND THAT WAS LIKE A SKI SLOPE, A SKI JUMP DURING THE LAST EVENT.ND I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANY TOPOGRAPHY, YOU KNOW, TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION IN THE LAST SNOW MAP. SO AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S TIME BEFORE THIS WINTER TO HAVE SOME INTERACTION WITH THAT, THAT UPDATED SNOW ROUTE WITH WITH MY CONSTITUENTS. BUT I WOULD REQUEST THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT GOING FORWARD SO WE CAN MAKE THAT UPDATED SNOW ROUTE, PERHAPS EVEN BETTER. AND THEN THE LAST QUESTION I HAD AS A MEMBER OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE WERE THERE, WERE THERE WAS THERE ANYTHING IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET THAT WE SPECIFICALLY SET ASIDE AS A RESPONSE TO SOME OF THE THINGS WE LEARNED OUT OF THIS SNOW EVENT AND OUT OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE MADE? OR DID WE HAVE ANYTHING IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS? SO I'LL START WITH THE SNOW MAPS SPECIFICALLY ON THE TOPOGRAPHY WE WERE WE WORKED WITH LOGIC MAPPING WITH AND WITH MSD, AND DURING THIS SNOW EVENT, THEY WERE ABLE TO GET US TOPO MAP OF ROADS THAT WAS ACTUALLY COLOR CONTOURED. SO REALLY STEEP SLOPES OR RED. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IT GOES, IT GOES DOWN TO GREEN FROM THERE. SO WE ARE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE TOPOGRAPHY NOW 
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AND NOT JUST LOOK AT IT, BUT ALSO CLASSIFY IT AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE STEEP SLOPES. EVEN WITHIN THAT WE CAN GO IN AND START PRIORITIZING. SO THAT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THIS FIRST BRUSH TO GET THINGS CLEANED UP. AS FAR AS THE BUDGET THERE IS, I BELIEVE IT'S $340,000 THAT IS WITHIN OUR FLEET LINE ITEM. SO THOSE ARE THE DOLLARS THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY FOR SNOW ITEMS. SO THAT WAS A SPECIFIC REQUEST FOR SNOW AND NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE PULLING FROM. THAT WAS THAT WAS KIND OF EXPECTED TO BE FOR SOMETHING ELSE WITHIN FLEET. 
          NO. IT IS SPECIFICALLY A LINE ITEM WITH FLEET, AND WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH THEM. IT WAS CALLED OUT FOR BRINE TANKS. BUT I KNOW I'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH FLEET. THEY WORK ON THE VEHICLES. THEY HAVE A LOT OF REALLY GOOD IDEAS. AND IF WE NEED TO HAVE A DIFFERENT MIX, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO A PILOT WITH JUST OUR BIGGEST TRUCKS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, MAYBE WE FULLY OUTFIT THOSE AND THEN ROLL IN OTHER TRUCKS AS WE GO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT THAT'S THAT IS WHAT IS IN THE BUDGET SPECIFICALLY FOR SNOW OPERATIONS, FOR FLEET. VICE CHAIR HARRIS. RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, PUBLIC WORKS IS THE MOST TANGIBLE THING WE AS COUNCIL CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT. IT'S WHAT OUR CONSTITUENTS EXPECT FROM US. WE GET A LOT OF CALLS. WE GET MORE CALLS ABOUT PUBLIC WORKS THAN ANY OTHER THING. AND SO THIS REASONABLE TIMELINE, I HEAR THE DATA I'M THINKING ABOUT, IT'S JULY AND WHAT'S FEASIBLE BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN SNOW SEASON STARTS. AND IF THE NEW DATA OR THE EQUIPMENT OR WHATEVER YOU'RE ROLLING OUT. WE NEED REAL TIME ACCESS TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THE PUBLIC A REAL IDEA OF WHEN THEY CAN EXPECT A STREET TO BE CLEANED. IF THAT CHANGES, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THAT TO THEM AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. I KNOW THAT THE MAYOR'S OFFICE OFTEN PARTNERS AND MAKES ANNOUNCEMENTS, BUT SOME OOUR FOLKS THAT DON'T LIVE IN DOWNTOWN AREAS OR SOME OF THE MOST VISITED AREAS, THEY SUFFER THE WORST WITH WITH THIS BECAUSE THEY DON'T UERSTD WHERE T PRIORI IS SO CLEAR. NGUAGE. 
          I KEHAU SAID T C SH LAG. PE OY KN11.O IIKE THATOU'RE TEMPTINGO ADJUST THOSE COMMUNICATIONS WITH 311 SO THAT PEOPLE DON'T JUST GET AN END OF THE LINE WHEN THEY CALL, THEY THEY WANT TO BE CONNECTED. THEY WANT TO KNOW WHEN THEIR STREET IS COMING ONLINE, WHEN IT WILL BE, WHEN IT WILL HAVE SERVICE. SO MY QUESTION IS AROUND A REASONABLE TIMELINE FOR THE ROUTE AND THE CHANGES. AND IS THAT WHAT'S GOING TO BE FEASIBLE BETWEEN NOW AND SNOW SEASON. BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYTHING WON'T B FIGURED O BEFORE THEN. AND THEN HOW DO WE TELL OUR CONSTITUENTS WHAT THOSE PRIORITIES ARE? WHAT IS THE SHARED LANGUAGE? I KNOW YOU SAID YOU'VE WORKED WITH OTHER COUNCIL PEOPLE. WHATEVER IT IS, WHATEVER SHARED LANGUAGE, I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THAT TO THE CONSTITUENTS I SERVE. AND THEN THE LAST THING IS UNINCORPORATED AREAS, EVEN IF THEY HAVE MAJOR THOROUGHFARES OR INTERSECTIONS, THEY MAY THEIR RESIDENTIAL STREET MAY NOT BE COVERED. BUT THE CLEAREST, THE NEXT INTERSECTION THAT IS METRO LOUISVILLE WILL BE. SO HAVING WAYS THAT WE CAN TALK TO OUR CONSTITUENTS AND ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. YEAH. SO THAT'S REALLY ABOUT THAT. WHEN WILL IT BE ONLINE? WHAT WILL BE DONE? BY THE TIME SNOW SEASON HAPPENS. THAT AND THEN WHAT'S THE SHARED LANGUAGE ON WHAT IS A PRIORITY ON WHAT YOU KNOW, WHEN THOSE HAPPEN? I KNOW YOU SAID THE MAP IS GOING TO BE UPDATED AND ALL OF THAT, AND THEN HOW CAN WE WORK TOGETHER BETTER TO COMMUNICATE THAT TO OUR FOLKS. SO AS FAR AS THE PRIORITIES FOR THE MAPPING, THAT WILL BE WHERE WE START. SO FOR THIS SEASON, WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT, 60 DAYS OR SO TO GET A MAP TO GET A MAP REFRESH. SO UNDERSTANDING, HEY, WE'RE STARTING WITH THESE PRIORITIES, WHICH ARE, YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE THE PEOPLE, WHERE'S THE TRAFFIC? WHERE WHERE ARE EMERGENCY SERVICES? CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE HOSPITALS, TOPOGRAPHY, OTHER THINGS THAT COULD BE A HAZARD. THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD HAVE RELATIVELY QUICKLY, I WOULD SAY IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS. AND THEN FROM THERE WE WOULD REFRESH THE MAPS. WE CAN CERTAINLY SHARE THOSE CHANGES, THOSE SUGGESTED CHANGES. WE DO START AS FAR AS TRAINING. OUR TEAM WILL START RUNNING ROUTES IN THE FALL, SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE RELATIVELY SOON SO THAT WE CAN START TRAINING OFF OF THOSE ROUTES. AND CAN I ADD ALSO ON THE EXTERNAL COMMUNICATION, WE WANT TO DEFINITELY REACH OUT 
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TO THE COUNCIL AND DUPLICATE EFFORTS THERE TO SEND OUT YOUR TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS SO THEY KNOW. BOTH THE MAP, THE PLAN, AND IF WE KNOW THERE'S A STORM COMING IN THE NEXT FIVE DAYS, GET THAT INFORMATION TO YOU ALL SO YOU CAN SEND IT OUT TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS SO THEY KNOW. AND THEN WE'LL GIVE AS MUCH, MANY UPDATES AS AS POSSIBLE. BUT WE'LL ALSO HAVE WE TALKED JUST TODAY ABOUT INTERNAL COMMUNICATION, ADVANCE NOTICE TO EVERYBODY INVOLVED. AND THEN HAVING THE TEXTING TOOL SO EVERYBODY RECEIVES IT ON THEIR PHONE INSTEAD OF AN EMAIL BECAUSE THEY MAY NOT SEE THE EMAIL IN TIME. SO. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. JUST TO READDRESS. THANK YOU FOR THAT. THE LAST PART OF IT IS THE COMMUNICATION WITH 311311911 AND 811 ARE SOME OF THE MOST POPULAR NUMBERS. AND I KNOW THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON THOSE COMMUNICATIONS, BUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO STOP PEOPLE FROM CALLING FROM WHEN THIS SEASON START. OR WHEN, WHEN DO YOU PLAN TO ADDRESS THAT? HOW SOON WILL THE 311 COMMUNICATIONS BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT LIKE WHAT T THE TEXT MESSAGE. WE AS COUNCIL CAN COMMUNICATE THAT AS WELL AND PUT IT IN ALL OF OUR NEWSLETTERS AND COMMUNICATIONS. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, IF IT'S JUST COMING BY EMAIL, MANY PEOPLE MAY MISS IT. 
          AND IF THEIR THEIR LIGHTS ARE OUT, THEY DEFINITELY MIGHT NOT GET IT. SO I DO LIKE THAT YOU'RE INCORPORATING TEXT MESSAGE, BUT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT 311 AND HOW THAT INTERFACE WILL BE UPDATED IN A TIMELY MANNER THAT GOES WITH WHAT YOU'RE YOU'RE DOING. SO I CANNOT SPEAK FOR 311 OR HOW QUICKLY CHANGES CAN BE MADE THERE. I CAN TELL YOU THAT OUR WHEN WE DEBRIEFED IN FEBRUARY 3RD ONE ONE WAS PROBABLY MY MOST MEMORABLE MEETING THAT WE HAD BECAUSE IT WAS INCREDIBLY PRODUCTIVE. SO WE CAN CERTAINLY THEY ARE ON OUR LIST TO GET TIME IN FRONT OF. WE DO HAVE A LIST OF RECOMMENDED, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDED DROPDOWN SELECTIONS THAT THEY CAN HAVE AND THEN GETTING WITH THEM ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE BIGGEST COMPLAINTS YOU GOT DURING SNOW. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAPPEN, I WOULD SAY IN THE NEXT MONTH TRYING TO GET WITH THEM. AS FAR AS ROLLING THAT OUT, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT EXACTLY, BUT THAT CAN BE PART OF AN UPDATE THAT WE PROVIDE. I DON'T SEE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE QUEUE. SO I'VE GOT ONE MORE QUESTION AND IT IT, I KNOW THAT A LOT OF THE STREETS IN JEFFERSON COUNTY ARE STATE ROADS. DO WE GET REIMBURSED BY THE STATE TO PLOW THOSE ROADS? HAS THERE BEEN A CONVERSATION TO HAVE THE STATE PLOW THOSE ROADS? WHAT'S WHAT? HOW DOES THAT HANDLE. SO WE DO RECEIVE REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE STATE. 
          IT'S 42% FOR THOSE OPERATIONS. SO AND THEN ANYONE WHO GENERALLY ANYONE WHO WITH OUR MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT WORKS OUT OF OUR CENTRAL DISTRICT THAT IS REIMBURSED THROUGH THE STATE. SO WE GET 42% OF WHAT IT COSTS US TO PLOW THE STATE ROADS. IS THAT WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY? WELL, FOR SNOW PLOWING. SO THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT WAS ARRIVED AT WITHIN OUR MOA JUST FOR EASE OF CONVERSION, BECAUSE IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE OUT ON A SNOW PLOW, THE ROUTES OVERLAP WITH STATE ROADS AND WITH METRO ROADS. SO THAT WAS THE NUMBER THAT IT WAS WORKED OUT TO. WE CAN CERTAINLY WORK WITH OUR OMB LIAISON WHO PROCESSES THE MOA COSTS, AND WE CAN GET A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR THIS YEAR, IF THAT'S HELPFUL. YEAH, I'D LOVE TO GET 58% FOR DOING NOTHING. THAT SEEMS LIKE A BAD DEAL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AND ANDREW. SO COUNCILMAN, AND I DOUBT YOU WERE SITTING IN ON THAT NEGOTIATION. BUT THAT IS A IT'S A REALLY INTERESTING NUMBER 42%. IT WOULD BE IT WOULD BE FASCINATING TO KNOW HOW THAT NUMBER WAS ARRIVED AT AND WHETHER LEXINGTON HAS THE SAME DEAL OR OWENSBORO HAS THE SAME DEAL OR ANY OTHER MORE METROPOLITAN NORTHERN KENTUCKY HAS A SIMILAR DEAL BECAUSE I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING. ARE WE HOW ARE WE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT THAT WE DON'T HAVE A BAD DEAL HERE? SO I DON'T KNOW. IT WOULD JUST BE INTERESTING TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION OR COLOR ON HOW THAT CONVERSATION WENT. OKAY. WE'VE GOT NO ONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE. WE STAND ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING. THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.