Jul 22, 2025 Labor and Economic Development Committee

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[Call to Order]

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[Roll Call]

COUNCILMAN HERNDON, IT'S MR. CHAMPION, CHAIR. COUNCILMAN HERNDON HAS A DIG. THAT IS PRETTY REMARKABLE. HIS BACK ROW UP SETUPS WERE WERE HONESTLY PRETTY STRIKING. SO I JUST FOR THE FOR METRO TV, IF YOU CAN ADJUST THE CAPTION THAT WOULD BE CHAMPION COUNCILMAN WEBER. THIS MEETING IS BEING HELD PURSUANT TO KRS 61.826 AND COUNCIL RULE 5AI AM CHAMPION CHAIRMAN RENA WEBBER, AND I AM JOINED BY MY VICE CHAIR, COUNCILWOMAN CRYSTAL BASS, COUNCIL COMMITTEE MEMBER AND DIGGER IN CHIEF KEN HERNDON, COUNCILWOMAN DONNA PURVIS. COUNCILMAN ANDREW OWEN, COUNCILMAN STUART BENSON, COUNCILMAN KHALIL BACHON. AND VIRTUALLY, WE ARE JOINED BY COUNCILWOMAN DOCTOR PAULA MCCRANEY. ALL RIGHT. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COUNCIL PEOPLE IN

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[1. R-079-25     A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE GRANTING OF LOCAL INCENTIVES TO CERITY PARTNERS LLC AND ANY SUBSEQUENT ASSIGNEES OR APPROVED AFFILIATES THEREOF PURSUANT TO KRS CHAPTER 154, SUBCHAPTER 32. Action Required By: December 26, 2025 Sponsors: Anthony Piagentini (R-19) ]

[2. R-080-25     A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO REQUEST AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GRANT FROM THE KENTUCKY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FINANCE AUTHORITY FOR THE BENEFIT OF VSIMPLE, INC. IN THE AMOUNT OF $500,000 AND TO ACCEPT SAID GRANT IF AWARDED. Action Required By: December 26, 2025 Sponsors: Ben Reno-Weber (D-8) ]

COMPLIANCE, MONITORING AND APPROVALS ARE CONDUCTED BY THE KENTUCKY CABINET FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND LOUISVILLE METRO GOVERNMENT IS MERELY THE PASS THROUGH FOR THE FUNDS. LMG AND THE LOUISVILLE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ALLIANCE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS REQUEST FOR FUNDING AND LOOK FORWARD TO ITS APPROVAL. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. COLLEAGUES. ANY DISCUSSION? I WILL JUST NOTE THAT I AM PARTICULARLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS ONE, BOTH BECAUSE IT IS A RELOCATION AND BECAUSE IT IS EXACTLY THE SORT OF WHITE COLLAR JOBS THAT GET ASSOCIATED WITH GROWING THE THINGS THAT WE DO AS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ENGINE. WE MAKE THINGS, WE MOVE THINGS, AND WE SERVE PEOPLE. AND THE SIMPLE IS BRINGING TECHNOLOGY TO DO THAT. I AM SO EXCITED TO HAVE THEM IN OUR DOWNTOWN AND TO BE SUPPORTING OUR COMPANIES. SO THIS IS AN ORDINANCE REQUIRING A VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? EXCELLENT. THIS ITEM WILL BE SENT TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. MADAM CLERK, WILL YOU READ ITEM

[3. R-082-25     A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO REQUEST AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GRANT FROM THE KENTUCKY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FINANCE AUTHORITY FOR THE BENEFIT OF ANTHRO ENERGY, INC. IN THE AMOUNT OF $750,000 AND TO ACCEPT SAID GRANT IF AWARDED. Action Required By: December 26, 2025 Sponsors: Jonathan ”JJ” Joseph (R-12) ]

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[4. R-083-25     A RESOLUTION PURSUANT TO THE CAPITAL AND OPERATING BUDGET ORDINANCES APPROVING THE APPROPRIATION TO FUND THE FOLLOWING PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT FOR LOUISVILLE METRO PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELLNESS TO OBTAIN SPECIALIZED PHYSICIAN SERVICES (MARK S. JORRISCH, M.D. - $183,960). Action Required By: December 26, 2025 Sponsors: Ben Reno-Weber (D-8) ]

THE MORE PROGRAM SERVED OVER 1000 RESIDENTS. BOTH LMDC AND THROUGH A PARTNERSHIP WITH VOLUNTEERS OF AMERICA, WE PROVIDED BOTH METHADONE AND BUPRENORPHINE, THE TWO FEDERALLY RECOGNIZED GOLD STANDARDS FOR TREATING OPIOID USE DISORDER, AND THE TWO MEDICATIONS MOST ASSOCIATED WITH POSITIVE OUTCOMES RELATED TO LONG TERM HEALTH, LONG TERM ECONOMIC SUCCESS, AND PREVENTION OF OVERDOSE. THE MEDICAL DIRECTOR POSITION FOR THIS PROGRAM IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. IT IS LEGALLY REQUIRED THAT WE HAVE A DOCTOR WITH ADDICTION EXPERTISE FOR REGULATORY STANDARDS. DOCTOR GEORGE HAS FILLED THIS ROLE FOR MORE THAN 20 OF THE 30 YEARS THAT THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE. HE IS UNIQUELY CAPABLE OF PROVIDING THESE SERVICES AND HELPING TO CONTINUE TO ADDRESS THE OPIOID CRISIS IN OUR CITY. THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY, I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION. DO YOU KNOW AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO THIS, THAT'S FINE. DO YOU KNOW WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE TREAT IN THIS PROGRAM ARE EMPLOYED? I BEG YOUR PARDON? DO YOU KNOW WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE TREAT IN THIS PROGRAM ARE EMPLOYED? I BELIEVE WE TRACK THAT. I CAN CHECK AND GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT. OKAY.

I'M JUST INTERESTED BECAUSE I KNOW THIS IS SUCH AN ISSUE WITHIN OUR WORKFORCE AND THAT A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE GETTING TREATMENT IN OTHER PROGRAMS ARE ALSO PARTICIPATING IN THE WORKFORCE, AND THIS IS A NECESSARY PART OF THAT. SO I'D BE INTERESTED IF YOU HAVE IT. THAT'D BE GREAT. I WILL SAY METHADONE IN GENERAL, BECAUSE OF THE STRICT REGULATORY PROCESS, BUT MORNING DOSING OFTEN IS ASSOCIATED WITH PEOPLE GETTING A DOSE ON THEIR WAY TO A JOB. YEAH, YEAH. YES. I HAD AN OFFICE THAT WAS IN THE FRONT OF THE METHADONE CLINIC AND MANY PEOPLE ON THEIR WAY TO THAT WAS GREAT. OKAY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. THIS IS AN ITEM REQUIRING A VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. THOSE OPPOSED. THIS ITEM PASSES AND WE'LL BE ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR. MADAM CLERK, A

[5. R-084-25     A RESOLUTION PURSUANT TO THE CAPITAL AND OPERATING BUDGET ORDINANCES APPROVING THE APPROPRIATION TO FUND THE FOLLOWING NONCOMPETITIVELY NEGOTIATED PROFESSIONAL SERVICE CONTRACT FOR LOUISVILLE METRO POLICE DEPARTMENT CONCERNING FORENSIC MEDICAL SERVICES FOR ABUSED AND NEGLECTED CHILDREN (COMMUNITY MEDICAL ASSOCIATES, INC. D/B/A NORTON CHILDREN’S MEDICAL GROUP - $200,000). Action Required By: December 26, 2025 Sponsors: Ben Reno-Weber (D-8) ]

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THEY'RE VITAL IN CONDUCTING OUR FORENSIC INTERVIEWS OF SEXUALLY ABUSED AND NEGLECTED CHILDREN.

AND THEY PROVIDE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS THAT TESTIFY IN COURT FOR US. GREAT. COLLEAGUES. ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILOR NOLAN? JUST. I'M. WE LIKE TO ASK THE QUESTION WHEN SOMETHING'S NON-COMPETITIVELY NEGOTIATED. JUST KIND OF THE REASONS SURROUNDING THAT. ARE THERE OTHER PEOPLE WHO PROVIDE CAN PROVIDE THESE SERVICES? I APOLOGIZE. YEAH. ACTUALLY, THE CLOSEST OTHER AGENCY ANYBODY THAT CAN PROVIDE IT IS LEXINGTON IN CINCINNATI. SO THAT'S THE ONLY ONE HERE IN THE LOUISVILLE AREA. PERFECT. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? THANKS. THANK YOU. GOOD. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL Y'ALL DO. TRUE STORY. OKAY. SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, THIS IS ITEM REQUIRING A VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. THOSE OPPOSED SEEING NONE. THIS IS AN ITEM THAT WE SENT TO THE CONSENT

[6. R-085-25     A RESOLUTION RATIFYING AND APPROVING A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT (FROM THE DATE OF ITS APPROVAL THROUGH JUNE 30, 2029) RELATING TO WAGES, HOURS, AND OTHER TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT BETWEEN LOUISVILLE/JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT AND AMERICAN FEDERATION OF STATE, COUNTY AND MUNICIPAL EMPLOYEES AFL-CIO, LOCAL 2629 (“AFSCME”), CONCERNING EMPLOYEES OF METRO PARKS DEPARTMENT MAINTENANCE AND RECREATION UNITS FOR WHOM AFSCME IS RECOGNIZED AS THE EXCLUSIVE BARGAINING REPRESENTATIVE. Action Required By: December 26, 2025 Sponsors: Ben Reno-Weber (D-8) ]

[7. R-086-25     A RESOLUTION RATIFYING AND APPROVING A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT (FROM THE DATE OF ITS APPROVAL THROUGH JUNE 30, 2029) BETWEEN LOUISVILLE/JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT AND THE AMERICAN FEDERATION OF STATE, COUNTY AND MUNICIPAL EMPLOYEES, AFL-CIO, LOCAL 2629 (“AFSCME”) RELATING TO WAGES, HOURS, AND OTHER TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT OF CERTAIN CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES IN LOUISVILLE METRO CORRECTIONS DEPARTMENT. Action Required By: December 26, 2025 Sponsors: Ben Reno-Weber (D-8) ]

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AND THEN THE OTHER THING I LIKE TO ASK ABOUT THESE CONTRACTS, AND I'M SURE THIS IS PART OF THE PROCESS. AND YOU'VE ANSWERED MY, MY QUESTION IN THE PAST BEFORE, BUT I ASSUME THAT ONCE WE'VE RENEGOTIATED THIS, THAT WE'VE STUDIED OTHER PEER CITIES AND THAT WE'RE NOW BRINGING OUR OUR WORKFORCE UP TO A LEVEL WHERE WE'RE COMPETITIVE WITH OUR PEER CITIES. COMPETITIVE YET? YES, THAT IS CORRECT. GREAT. THANK YOU. GREAT. I WILL JUST NOTE THAT THESE EMPLOYEES PLAY SO MANY IMPORTANT ROLES FOR A VERY VULNERABLE POPULATION, AND IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT WE GET THE BEST AND THE BRIGHTEST THAT WE CAN IN THOSE SPACES. SO THANK YOU FOR HELPING US TO DO THAT. IT IS A CRYING SHAME THAT THE LARGEST DRUG TREATMENT FACILITY IN THE STATE OF KENTUCKY IS OUR JAIL, AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE INVOLVED IN MAKING THAT CONTINUALLY SAFER SPACE FOR PEOPLE. SO THIS IS AN ITEM REQUIRING A VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

[8. R-087-25     AN RESOLUTION RATIFYING AND APPROVING A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT (FROM THE DATE OF ITS APPROVAL THROUGH JUNE 30, 2029) RELATING TO WAGES, HOURS, AND OTHER TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT BETWEEN LOUISVILLE/JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT AND TEAMSTERS LOCAL 783 AFFILIATED WITH THE INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD OF TEAMSTERS OF AMERICA REPRESENTING LOUISVILLE EMERGENCY SERVICES/METRO SAFE DEPARTMENT. Action Required By: December 26, 2025 Sponsors: Ben Reno-Weber (D-8) ]

TOTAL COST OF THE CONTRACT IS 33.4 MILLION WITHOUT FRINGES AND 42.1 MILLION WITH FRINGES. IT WAS VOTED 63 TO 19. OKAY, COLLEAGUES. ANY DISCUSSION? REALLY? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YET AGAIN, THANK YOU TO OUR FABULOUS WORKERS AND THE GREAT WORK THAT THEY DO AND THE UNIONS THAT REPRESENT THEM. THIS IS NIGHT. I'M CALLING FOR A VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SEEING NONE. WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. PLEASE EXPRESS OUR CONDOLENCES TO YOUR COLLEAGUE, MR. JACKSON. WE APPRECIATE HIS VALIANT EFFORTS ON THE VOLLEYBALL COURT. HE. HE REALLY DID TRY. HE JUST COULDN'T SHOW HIS FACE HERE TODAY. YOU KNOW, I, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT. IT WAS. HE DID WELL. NOT WELL ENOUGH, BUT. WELL. ALL RIGHT, MADAM CLERK, IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH A DEVELOPMENT AREA

[9. O-162-25     AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A DEVELOPMENT AREA PURSUANT TO PROVISIONS OF KRS 65.7041- 65.7083 AND KRS 154.30-010-154.30-090 TO BE KNOWN AS THE DISTILLERY COMMONS DEVELOPMENT AREA, DESIGNATING THE METRO DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, INC. AS AN "AGENCY", ADOPTING A DEVELOPMENT PLAN, APPROVING ENTERING INTO A LOCAL PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT, AUTHORIZING THE PAYMENT OF THE "RELEASED AMOUNT" PURSUANT TO THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THE LOCAL PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT, REQUIRING THE SUBMISSION OF REGULAR REPORTS TO LOUISVILLE/JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT AND AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION AND DELIVERY OF ANY OTHER DOCUMENTS AND THE TAKING OF ANY OTHER ACTIONS NECESSARY TO ACCOMPLISH THE PURPOSES AUTHORIZED BY THIS ORDINANCE. Action Required By: December 26, 2025 Sponsors: Andrew Owen (D-9) ]

AUTHORIZING THE PAYMENT OF THE RELEASED AMOUNT PURSUANT TO THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THE LOCAL PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT REQUIRING THE SUBMISSION OF REGULAR REPORTS TO THE LOUISVILLE JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT AND AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF DELIVERY OF OTHER DOCUMENTS AND TAKING OF ANY OTHER ACTIONS NECESSARY TO COMPLETE THE PURPOSES AUTHORIZED IN THIS ORDINANCE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS ANYONE WHO IS CONSPICUOUSLY ABSENT FROM THE VOLLEYBALL COURT HERE TO SPEAK TO THIS, PLEASE? JEFF O'BRIEN, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBERS AND DOCTOR CHAMPION CHAIR, APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU THIS AFTERNOON. AND I HAVE A BAD KNEE. SO I WAS NOT ON THE VOLLEYBALL COURT AND I DIDN'T WANT TO CREATE ANY UNDUE HUMILITY. WE APPRECIATE THAT YOU AND COUNCILMAN OWEN CAN CRY TOGETHER. YOUR BUCKETS. OKAY, ON TO THE MATTER AT HAND. THIS THIS ORDINANCE BEFORE YOU IS FOR A TAX INCREMENT FINANCE DISTRICT FOR THE DISTILLERY COMMONS PROJECT, WHICH IS AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF LEXINGTON ROAD AND MAIN STREET IN THE IRISH HILL NEIGHBORHOOD IN DISTRICT NINE. THIS REQUEST IS FOR A LOCAL PROPERTY TAX ONLY TIFF TO SUPPORT A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT ON THE PROPERTY. THIS IS A 20 YEAR TIFF THAT HAS AN 8020 SPLIT OF THE LOUISVILLE METRO, AD VALOREM, AND THE URBAN SERVICES DISTRICT. AD VALOREM

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THANK YOU CHAIR. THANK YOU JEFF. WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS. WE ONE OF THE THINGS I SAID TO MY IRISH HILL CONSTITUENTS IS MOST OF MY COLLEAGUES TALK ALL THE TIME IN PLANNING AND ZONING AND OTHER COMMITTEES ABOUT HOW DO I ENCOURAGE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT TO OCCUR IN, IN MY DISTRICT. AND SO THE ANSWER IS, I THINK DENSITY AND THIS, THE MORE PEOPLE THAT YOU HAVE LIVING IN A IN A SPACE THAT CAN SUPPORT FIRST FLOOR RETAIL AND OTHER RETAIL, THE EASIER IT IS TO DO BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL WITHIN THE SAME DEVELOPMENT. AND SO THIS WILL ADD TO OUR DENSITY, WHICH I THINK IS A GREAT THING FOR DISTRICT NINE. IT OFFERS A BUNCH OF REALLY COOL THINGS THAT WE DON'T HAVE, BOTH IN DISTRICT NINE, BUT ALSO IN IN MANY INSTANCES WITHIN THE URBAN SERVICES DISTRICT, THE OLD URBAN SERVICES DISTRICT. SO I'M, I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS OF THIS TIFF. AND I WILL SAY AGAIN, WHAT JEFF JUST SAID, YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD ME SAY THIS BEFORE, TIFF, TIFF, TAX INCREMENT FINANCE DISTRICTS ARE PERFORMANCE BASED INCENTIVES, AND WE HAVE A NUMBER OF TIFS AROUND TOWN THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN ACTIVATED. SO IF THE DEVELOPER DOESN'T PERFORM, THE TIFF NEVER GETS ACTIVATED. AND SO I IT'S WHY I THINK IT IS SUCH AN EFFECTIVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOL. SO I GENERALLY SUPPORT TIFS, BUT I PARTICULARLY SUPPORT TIFS IN DISTRICT NINE THAT ADD A HOUSING COMPONENT AND A MIXED USE COMPONENT. SO THIS CHECKS A LOT OF BOXES FOR ME. SO I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? JEFF, YOU SAID IT WAS A 10% AT 80% AMI. YES. OKAY. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE STRUGGLED WITH IS HOW DO WE COMMUNICATE WHAT AMI REALLY MEANS, LIKE AREA MEDIAN INCOME AND WHAT IS 10%, YOU KNOW, 80% LOOK LIKE. AND SO I WAS TRYING TO THINK ABOUT THAT AS WHAT DOES THAT MEAN IN TERMS OF WHAT IS THE JOB OF SOMEBODY WHO CAN WHO WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR THESE THINGS? AND SO I WAS LOOKING AT I, I PERPLEXITY IN THIS INSTANCE, I WAS I WAS TRYING TO MAP THAT. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN, 80% AMI SO FOR A SINGLE PERSON TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THESE CARVE OUTS, THAT WOULD BE SOMEBODY WHO HAS BEEN WORKING ON THE GENERAL LINE FOR THREE ISH YEARS. THAT'S THE SORT OF OR A RESTAURANT MANAGER. RIGHT. THAT WOULD BE THOSE ARE THE THAT'S THE POPULATION. SO IT IS NOT SERVERS, BUT IT IS AND IT IS NOT YOUR FIRST YEAR AT GE, BUT IT IS 3 TO 5. AND THAT IS A MEANINGFUL PIECE IN TERMS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. YEAH THAT'S THAT'S CORRECT I MEAN WE SO AGAIN WE'RE TRYING THIS IS A THESE ARE THESE ARE MARKET RATE PROJECTS. AND SO

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AND THEN WE DO MONITOR THOSE UNITS FOR COMPLIANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT GUIDELINE. AND THEY'RE RENTING THOSE UNITS OUT TO PEOPLE THAT ARE INCOME ELIGIBLE.

COUNCILMAN. YEAH. SO I THINK A LOT OF TIMES, AND IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT THAT WE TRY TO HIT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF OUR LOWER LEVELS, YOU KNOW, 30%, 50%, 60%. BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT TO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T DISCOUNT WHAT HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO FOCUS ON THESE KINDS OF SITUATIONS AS WELL. 80% OF AMI ALLOWS SOME PEOPLE TO LIVE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, TO LIVE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WOULDN'T OTHERWISE BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO LIVE THERE. AND SO I DON'T WANT TO DISCOUNT THAT. I WANT THAT IS THAT IS ALSO IMPORTANT. SO JUST WANTED TO THAT'S THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO BRING IT UP, BECAUSE I WANT US TO BE HAVING THAT CONVERSATION. THIS IS HOW PEOPLE CAN AFFORD TO LIVE IN PLACES THEY OTHERWISE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO. WHO ARE WORKING PEOPLE, TRADES PEOPLE WITH, WITH SKILLS THAT I JUST GOT TO, COUNCILWOMAN. COUNCILWOMAN PURVIS, I THINK THAT'S HOW JEFF O'BRIEN'S JEFF O'BRIEN SPIKED ON YOU RIGHT THERE. MR. O'BRIEN, CAN YOU GIVE US AN EXAMPLE OF 80% OF AMI FOR THOSE RENTING A PLACE, RENTING A UNIT IN THIS BUILDING, PLEASE? YES. SO TYPICALLY SPEAKING, AND DEPENDING WHERE RENTS ARE AND WHAT PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND YOU'RE 80% RENT IS GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 1000 AND $1500 A MONTH, AFFORDABLE TO A GE APPLIANCE WORKER OR RESTAURANT MANAGER. NOT EVERYONE. BUT WHAT IF I DRIVE A SCHOOL BUS DRIVER? A SCHOOL 80% IS 54,000. WHAT'S WHAT'S JC DRIVING RIGHT NOW? ABOUT 56. YES, JC BUS DRIVER AFFORDABLE. THANK YOU, MR. RYAN. THIS IS AN ITEM THAT REQUIRES A VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE. I'M SORRY. THIS IS ROLL CALL. OH, OH, THIS IS ROLL CALL.

ALL RIGHT. THIS IS AN ITEM REQUIRING A ROLL CALL. VOTE. THE VOTING IS OPEN. COUNCILWOMAN PURVIS. YES, THAT WAS A YES. COUNCILWOMAN MCCRANEY. COUNCILWOMAN DOCTOR MCCRANEY.

I'LL SEE IF I CAN UNMUTE HER. IT'S LIKE TWINSIES GONE DRIVING RIGHT NOW, ABOUT 56. I CAN HEAR YOU NOW. COUNCIL DRIVER. AFFORDABLE. YES. THANK YOU. MR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER VINCENT REQUIRES A VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY THANK YOU. MISS. YES. MR. MR. CHAMPION. CHAIR, YOU HAVE EIGHT YES VOTES. EXCELLENT. THIS IS AN ITEM THAT WILL BE SENT TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. ALL RIGHT. FOR ALL YOU HATERS WHO DIDN'T THINK WE CAN GET THROUGH NINE ITEMS QUICKLY YET AGAIN, WE HAVE CHAMPIONED. SOMETHING A CHAMPION C ANY OBJECTION TO ADJOURNING?

[Adjournment Note: Agendas are followed at the discretion of the Chair. While an item may be listed, it does not mean all items will be heard and/or acted upon by the Committee.]