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          ALL RIGHT. HELLO. COULD YOU COULD YOU PLEASE TAKE YOUR SEATS? COULD YOU PLEASE TAKE 
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YOUR SEATS? COULD YOU PLEASE SEE? YEAH. THANK YOU. THERE'S NOBODY WAS LISTENING. WE WILL BE 
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STARTING IN ABOUT 30S. HEY. HOW YOU DOING? I'M GOOD. EXCUSE ME. I'M READY. ARE WE READY? OKAY. 
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HELLO, MR. BROWN. COMMITTEE. ON MY WORK. GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS IS THE EQUITY, COMMUNITY AFFAIRS, 
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HOUSING, HEALTH AND EDUCATION COMMITTEE. I AM THE CHAIR, COUNCILWOMAN BARBARA SHANKLIN. 
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WITH ME IS MY VICE CHAIR, COUNCILMAN STUART VINCENT. COUNCILMAN TAMMY HOPKINS. SHE'S NOT HERE YET, BUT SHE WILL BE. COUNCILMAN DAN SAND, COUNCILMAN DAN SIMON, JUNIOR. COUNCILMEMBER MARKUS WINKLER HAS EXCUSED ABSENT. OR HE MAY COME ON BECAUSE HE'S OUT OF TOWN. 
          COUNCILWOMAN JENNY WARRICK AND COUNCILMAN CARLISLE. WHAT IS IT? WE ARE HERE TO TALK WITH US TODAY. ALSO. WE HAVE. A SPECIAL DISCUSSION, AND WE HAVE FOUR THINGS ON THE AGENDA. WE'RE GOING TO START OUT WITH THE NUMBER FOUR. OH I'M SORRY. YOU WANT TO READ THE. VERSION? OKAY. 
          OH, OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO THE FIRST ONE CAN YOU READ THE WE'RE GOING TO START WITH NUMBER FOUR PLEASE. ITEM FOUR A RESOLUTION HONORING THE HONORABLE J. MICHAEL BROWN BY DEDICATING THE CORNERS OF 18TH AND 19TH STREET AT THEIR INTERSECTION IN MADISON STREET AS J. MICHAEL BROWN WAY IN HIS HONOR. READ IN FULL. THANK YOU. YOU HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. YOU HAVE SOMEONE HERE? I WAS PREPARED TO READ FOR YOU. OKAY. OKAY. GO AHEAD. HI, MY NAME IS TYLER. BASED. I'M THE LEGISLATIVE ASSISTANT FOR COUNCILMAN KEN HERNDON UNDER DISTRICT FOUR. OUR OFFICE WAS CONTACTED BY ONE WEST. THEY ARE WANTING TO DO AN HONORARY STREET SIGN UNVEILING DURING THE ONE WEST GRAND REOPENING FOR THE RENOVATED SPACE ON JUNE 27TH, HONORING THE HONORABLE J. MICHAEL BROWN. OKAY. ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS CONCERNS? I DO WANT TO SAY I'VE KNOWN MICHAEL J. BROWN SINCE, OH GOD FOR YEARS, AND HIS WIFE AND FAMILY. SO A WONDERFUL MAN TO KNOW. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR ANYTHING? DON'T SEE ANYONE. SO WE WILL BE. WELL, I'M READY TO VOTE. ARE WE READY TO VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR? AND WE WILL. 
          NO, NO. SO WE WILL BE SENDING IT TO CONSENT CALENDAR. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. NUMBER THREE. IS THAT ONE, TAMMY. NO, S CARLA. AM I RIGHT, CARLA? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. NUMBER THREE. IS THERE SOMEONE HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE PROPERTY? WELL, WE GOT THEM BACKWARDS. WE WERE GOING FOR THREE, TWO, ONE. OKAY. EVEN THOUGH SHE WAS NOT THERE, THERE WAS SOMEONE ELSE HERE TO TALK ABOUT IT. OH, IT IS SOMEONE. OH, OKAY. SHE'S NOT GOING TO BE THE ONE TO SPEAK TO IT. OKAY. SORRY. 
          THAT'S OKAY. COUNCILMAN, YOU CAN GO. WANT TO READ IT? READ. READ IT. NUMBER THREE. THREE. OKAY. 
          ITEM THREE A RESOLUTION TO DETERMINE THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 30, 21 AND 3042 WILSON AVENUE, 3028 WILSON AVENUE, 3038 WILSON AVENUE, 3044 WILSON AVENUE AND 3071 AVENUE. AS A SURPLUS AND NOT NEEDED FOR THE GOVERNMENT APPROPRIATION AUTHORIZING THEIR TRANSFER. 
          READING. FULL. OKAY. SECOND, GREG. I GUESS WE I HAD WROTE DOWN HE WROTE HIM DOWN BACKWARDS IN THREE. SHOULD HAVE BEEN NUMBER TWO. BUT WE'RE GOING ON. YOU HAVE SOMEONE. OKAY. YOU HAVE SOMEONE. GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M MARILYN HARRIS. I'M THE SENIOR HOUSING POLICY ADVISOR FOR THE CITY OF LOUISVILLE. THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WE STARTED WORKING ON OVER A YEAR AGO. AND THE VACANT LAND AT THESE ADDRESSES, 30, 32, 30, 32, 30, 42, 30, 21 WILSON AVENUE USED TO BE THE SITE OF A GROCERY. IT IS NOW AN ABANDONED WELL. IT WAS AN ABANDONED PIECE OF PROPERTY. AND BY ABANDONED I MEAN NOT IN USE. NOT THAT IT WASN'T BEING TAKEN CARE OF. WE HAVE A LEASE WITH MAHAN, AND FOR THE PROPERTY, WE ARE TRYING TO SURPLUS THAT PROPERTY SO THAT IT CAN BE USED FOR PARK DUVALLE HEALTH CENTER, FOR A GROCERY, A FARMERS MARKET ON THE SITE, AND TO UTILIZE THE INDOOR SPACE FOR FOOD, EDUCATION AND COOKING CLASSES. AND SO WE ARE JUST REQUESTING THAT THIS 
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PROPERTY BE SURPLUS SO THAT WE CAN SELL IT TO THEM AND TRANSFER THE PROPERTY TO THEM SO THAT THEY CAN USE IT. THANK YOU. WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? NO, I THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. 
          COUNCILMAN BENSON, MA'AM. WHEN YOU SELL IT, IS THAT LIKE FOR IS THAT A DOLLAR OR IS THERE SOME VALUE. IT WOULD BE A DOLLAR. YES. WE HAVE A LONG STANDING LEASE ON THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW. 
          AND THAT LEASE, THEY WILL TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THAT LEASE WITH MAHAN. THEY OPERATE A SET A DOLLAR GENERAL, EITHER A DOLLAR GENERAL OR A WHAT? A FAMILY DOLLAR, THAT'S WHAT IT IS, A FAMILY DOLLAR. DOLLAR. THERE'S TAKING OWNERSHIP OF THE LEASE. THEY'RE TAKING OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY AND THE LEASE BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO BUILDINGS. ONE IS THE FAMILY DOLLAR, THE OTHER USED TO BE A SAVE-A-LOT GROCERY. THE SAVE-A-LOT IS EMPTY AND THEY WANT TO USE IT FOR THEIR FOOD, HEALTH AND COMMUNITY STUFF. SPACE. THANK YOU. I REMEMBER A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN THEY PUT THEIR GROCERY STORE IN THERE. I KNOW MARY, COUNCILWOMAN WARWICK, SHE FOUGHT REALLY HARD TO GET THAT GROCERY STORE RIGHT THERE IN THAT AREA. SO MY CONCERN IS TAMMY'S RIGHT ON TIME IS ABOUT PUTTING THAT. BUT THAT'S A COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS AREA, ANOTHER DOLLAR STORE AND A DOLLAR IN OUR LOW INCOME AREAS. IT'S NOT THAT IS NOT THE INTENDED PURPOSE. THE FAMILY DOLLAR IS ALREADY THERE ON THE PROPERTY. THE VACANT BUILDING IS WHERE THE SAVE-A-LOT USED TO BE. 
          AND THOSE THERE ARE FIVE PIECES OF LAND THAT MAKE UP THIS KIND OF CORNER OF WILSON. IS IT WYANDOTTE? YES. WHAT IS IT? I CAN'T HEAR YOU. ALGONQUIN. SORRY. SORRY. ALGONQUIN AND WILSON. AND SO SOME OF THEM FRONT ALGONQUIN. SOME OF THEM FRONT. WILSON. WE ARE JUST COMBINING ALL OF THOSE AND THEN DEEDING IT TO PARK DUVALLE HEALTH CENTER SO THEY CAN USE IT FOR THEIR FARMERS MARKET AND GROCERY AND FOOD TRAINING CENTER. THEY WANT TO TEACH PEOPLE HOW TO COOK HEALTHILY FOR SOME REASON. I THOUGHT YOU SAID DOLLAR STORE AND PANERA DOLLAR. 
          THEY'RE FAMILY DOLLAR IS ON ONE OF ITS OPERATES OUT OF ONE OF THE TWO BUILDINGS. SO IT'S ALREADY THERE. IT'S ALREADY THERE. BEEN THERE FOR MANY YEARS. OKAY, COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS, YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY? YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. CHAIR, THANKS FOR BEING HERE TODAY. I DEFINITELY SUPPORT THIS. THAT AREA HAS BEEN CRYING FOR FRESH VEGETABLES, FRUIT, HEALTHY FOODS. AND IT'S DEFINITELY. AND A GROCERY STORE. SO THE GROCERY STORE. SO I SUPPORT THIS. I'VE BEEN IN CONVERSATION WITH SWANNIE JETT ABOUT THIS AND HOPE EVERYBODY ELSE CAN SUPPORT IT. SO I DO AND THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR IT. AND I GUESS THE REST OF US WILL BE A FORWARD. ALL IN FAVOR? NO, NO. SO WE WILL SEND THIS TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. NUMBER. LAST NUMBER. THAT WAS NUMBER THREE. NUMBER TWO. ITEM TWO. AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 90 OF THE LOUISVILLE METRO CODE OF ORDINANCE LMCO. READING FOR SECOND. YES. IS THAT YOURS? COUNCILMAN. WHICH ONE WAS THAT? ONE. NUMBER TWO. YEAH. NUMBER TWO, WHERE THEY GOT IT BACKWARDS ON MY PAGE, COUNCILMAN. KHALIL. 
          IS THIS YOURS? YEAH, I THINK WE HAVE PUBLIC HEALTH HERE TO SPEAK ON IT. OKAY. AND I CAN ANSWER A FEW QUESTIONS IF NEEDED. THANK YOU. COUNCIL? YES. THIS IS JUST AN AMENDMENT TO OUR CURRENT NONSMOKING ORDINANCE FOR TOBACCO LICENSING. YES. I'M SORRY. I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS ME. I AM PATRICK RICH. I AM THE EXECUTIVE ADMINISTRATOR, LOUISVILLE METRO PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELLNESS, AND I RUN THE SMOKE FREE TOBACCO RETAIL LICENSING PROGRAM. THIS AMENDMENT IS JUST SOME CHANGES WE'VE ADDED TO HELP MAKE SURE WE ARE BEING INCLUSIVE OF ALL THE ITEMS THAT ARE BEING SOLD CURRENTLY AT THE TOBACCO STORES AND VAPE SHOPS. IT THE MAIN CHANGES HERE ARE BASICALLY TO IMPROVE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE THERE. THE KRATOM IS BEING INCLUDED BECAUSE IT WASN'T NAMED SPECIFICALLY IN THE ORDINANCE BEFOREHAND, AND SOME OF THOSE, IT'S A LOOPHOLE THAT COULD BE EXPLOITED AT A LATER DATE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S FILLED IN. WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO GIVE SOME OF THE LICENSING ABILITY TO A DESIGNEE OF OUR DIRECTOR RIGHT 
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NOW, ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE REVOKED OR NEEDS TO BE DENIED HAS TO GO THROUGH THEIR OFFICE. 
          WHEREAS WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE ADMINISTRATORS WHO CAN TAKE CARE OF THAT FUNCTION. AND I THINK THE OTHER BIG CHANGE HERE WAS REQUIRING A FLOOR PLAN. WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR ANYBODY WHO'S PUTTING IN AN APPLICATION TO SUBMIT A FLOOR PLAN FOR US, SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THE PERCENTAGE OF SALES SPACE DEDICATED TO TOBACCO SALES IS ACCURATE. IT HASN'T BEEN A REQUIREMENT, BUT IT'S BEEN SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN ASKING, AND THIS WOULD MAKE THAT A REQUIREMENT. GOOD. COUNCILWOMAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU PATRICK. WE APPRECIATE YOUR FOR WORKING, WORKING ON THIS WITH US AND MAKING THIS HAPPEN. WE WANT TO ALSO JUST KIND OF ON PAGE TWO, WE HAVE WE SCRATCHED 18 TO 21 YEARS OF AGE FOR THE AGE LIMIT TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE ANY STORES. I THINK THESE CHANGES ARE A SIGNIFICANT WAY FORWARD IN REGARDS TO MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE ABIDING BY THE LAW AND MAKING SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF BAD ACTORS OUT THERE ANYMORE THAT ARE TRYING TO SKATE THROUGH BY SAYING THEY'RE OPENING A CONVENIENCE STORE AND GETTING AWAY WITH THAT THOUSAND FOOT RULE, AND BY OFFERING THE FLOOR PLAN AND SO ON. SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR WORK AT PUBLIC HEALTH AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE ALLOWING OTHER DESIGNEES TO BE ABLE TO HELP REVOKE THESE, THESE LICENSES FOR THE BAD ACTORS IS GOING TO BE A STEP FORWARD IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO THANK YOU. I LOOK FOR EVERYBODY'S SUPPORT TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. OKAY, I GOT A QUESTION. SURE. ANY MORE CONCERNS? OKAY. I GUESS IT'S REALLY TO MY COLLEAGUE. BUT SO WAS IT A AGE RESTRAINT ON THAT THAT I HEARD SOME ABOUT AN AGE. DID YOU SAY SOMETHING ABOUT AGE 21? YES. THE FEDERAL LAW IS 21 IS CONSIDERED A MINOR AS FAR AS TOBACCO SALES GO. AND OUR REG, WAS IT, AS ORIGINALLY WRITTEN, USED THE DEFINITION OF MINOR AS 18, WHICH WAS THE COMMON MISNOMER. SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT ALIGNED BETTER WITH THE FEDERAL. SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT IT'S 18 OR 21 2121? OKAY. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS ON THE RECORD, YOU CAN BE 21 ABOUT TOBACCO, BUT YOU CAN BE 18 TO BUY A GUN. THANK YOU. THINGS WE WILL WORK ON MOVING FORWARD OKAY OKAY. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE. 
          THEN AGAIN I GUESS TO VOTE. CAN I INTERRUPT YOU? I'M SORRY. SO THIS IS SONIA HARDWARE, THE METRO COUNCIL CLERK. I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST IF WE COULD POSSIBLY MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE TITLE SIMPLY FOR PURPOSES OF RESEARCHING LATER, THE TITLE WOULD END WITH REGARDING SMOKING RETAIL STORES SO THAT THERE IT'S DEFINED BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT JUST TELLS YOU THAT WE'RE AMENDING CHAPTER 90. WE SHOULD. RIGHT. WHILE WE'RE AMENDING, IF YOU DON'T MIND, AN AMENDMENT BEFORE US AND WE VOTE ON THAT. YEAH. CAN WE GET A MOMENT, MAKE THAT MOTION OKAY. SURE. THERE. 
          YEAH. WE HAVE SECOND. OKAY. SO BEFORE US WE HAVE AMENDMENT TO THE ORDINANCE ASKING TO CHANGE THE NAME OR THE TITLE OR THE NAME. ALL IN FAVOR. ALL RIGHT. ANY NO'S. SO NOW WE'LL BE VOTING ON THE NEW ORDINANCE. SO THIS ONE IS NOT A VOICE VOTE. IT HAS TO BE A VOTE ON THE SCREEN. JUST RIGHT NOW. EVERYBODY READY? MR. CHAIR? DO I GET A DO I GET A VOTE OR NO? OKAY. IT'S NOT LIKE ZONING. THAT'S ONLY IN PLANNING AND ZONING. SORRY. GOOD. VOTING IS OPEN. EVERYBODY VOTED. 
          COUNCILMEMBER HAWKINS. YES. VOTING IS CLOSING. CHAIR SHAKING. YOU GOT FIVE YES VOTES. 
          OKAY, SO WE WILL BE SENDING THIS TO THE OLD BUSINESS CENSUS ORDINANCE. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I SEE MAKE SURE I'VE GOT ON. YES. GOT ONE MORE SECOND. OKAY. NEXT WE HAVE A SPECIAL DISCUSSION. THE SPECIAL DISCUSSION IS THE OVERVIEW OF THE OFFICE OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE. YES, I'M LAURA GRABOWSKI AND I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. 
          THANKS FOR HAVING ME HERE TODAY. I'VE GOT A FEW SLIDES TO GO OVER. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND TALK. WE'VE HAD SOME CHANGES IN OUR DEPARTMENT, AND I KNOW THAT METRO COUNCIL HAS HAD SOME NEW MEMBERS. SO IT'S GOOD TO COME OVER HERE AND TALK ABOUT THE 
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WORK THAT OUR TEAM DOES. I'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF AN OVERVIEW OF OUR DEPARTMENT AND AS WELL AS SOME CURRENT INITIATIVES THAT WE'RE WORKING ON. SO WE'LL START WITH THE MISSION STATEMENT, WHICH WE RETOOLED LAST YEAR THAT WE IMPLEMENT. WE HAVE ESSENTIALLY TWO SIDES OF OUR DEPARTMENT. WE WORK ON CREATING AND PRESERVING AFFORDABLE HOUSING THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, AND WE WORK ON VACANT AND ABANDONED PROPERTY EFFORTS, SPECIFICALLY IN NEIGHBORHOODS WITH WITH HIGH CONCENTRATIONS OF VACANT PROPERTIES. JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF AN OVERVIEW OF OUR TEAM, WE HAVE ABOUT 50 TEAM MEMBERS, AND THEY ARE ORGANIZED INTO THESE TEAMS. SO WE HAVE STARTING WITH HOUSING STRATEGY AND DEVELOPMENT. THESE ARE THE PROGRAMS THAT MANY OF YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH. SO DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE, OUR FINANCING THAT WE OFFER THROUGH WHAT WE CALL A NOFA EVERY YEAR FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPERS, WE DO HAVE SOME OVERSIGHT OVER EXTERNAL AGENCIES, INCLUDING THE TRUST FUND. AND OF COURSE, WE ARE HEAVILY FUNDED BY THE CITY'S HUD DOLLARS. SO WE HAVE PLANS AND REPORTING. THAT PARTICULAR TEAM IS LED BY MICHELLE ROGERS, OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR. THEN WE HAVE NEIGHBOR NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY ALL OF THE CHRONIC, VACANT AND ABANDONED PROPERTY PROGRAMS LIKE THAT. YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH FORECLOSURE, DEMOLITION, THE LAND BANK, AND THEN ONE NEW PROGRAM THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN A LITTLE BIT, WHICH IS OUR LIEN WAIVER PILOT PROGRAM. WE HAVE HOUSING STABILIZATION, I'M SORRY. NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION IS LED BY EXECUTIVE ADMINISTRATOR TIA BOWMAN, HOUSING STABILIZATION, LED BY MEGAN MCGINN IS ALL OF OUR HOME REPAIR, WHICH YOU ACTUALLY HEARD FROM AT OUR LAST AT YOUR LAST COMMITTEE MEETING ABOUT OUR HOME REPAIR NEEDS ASSESSMENT. AND MEGAN'S TEAM WORKED VERY, VERY HARD ON THE EVICTION PREVENTION MONEY THAT WE HAD THROUGH COVID. THAT IS THAT IS ESSENTIALLY TRANSITIONING OVER TO OFFICE OF SOCIAL SERVICES. NOW, PUBLIC LAND ACTIVATION IS A NEW TEAM THAT WE HAVE LED BY RON WILLIAMS, WHERE WE'RE TAKING PUBLICLY OWNED LAND, METRO OWNED LAND, LAND, BANK LAND, AND TRYING TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO FOR PUBLIC USE ON THAT LAND. AND THEN FINALLY, CLIENT SERVICES LED BY HEDI BAILEY, OUR EXECUTIVE ADMINISTRATOR. SHE HANDLES ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, AND HER TEAM HANDLES ALL OF ANY CLIENT COMPLAINTS. SO WE CERTAINLY HOPE THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS DON'T NEED TO CONTACT CLIENT SERVICES. BUT IF THEY DO, THAT'S THAT'S WHERE TO GO. SO THE TWO SIDES OF OUR DEPARTMENT WILL START WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE ARE VERY BUSY WORKING TOWARD THE MAYOR'S GOAL OF BUILDING AND CREATING AND PRESERVING 15,000 UNITS OF HOUSING. WE DO HAVE A DASHBOARD. YOU HAVE YOU CAN SEE HOW TO FIND THAT DASHBOARD ONLINE. IT REGULARLY UPDATES. AND I WILL SAY REGULARLY I THINK THIS NUMBER WAS AS OF MAY. SO WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE A NEW NUMBER BY THE END OF THE SUMMER. BUT IT PULLS FROM ALL OF THE PROGRAMS THAT THE CITY SPONSORS, INCLUDING THE TRUST FUND. SO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPERS THAT WE PROVIDE FINANCING FOR THE SMALL DEVELOPERS, DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE, HOME REPAIR, ALL OF THOSE PROGRAMS FILTER UP, AND YOU'LL SEE A NUMBER FOR WHICH PROJECTS ARE UNDERWAY AND WHICH PROJECTS ARE COMPLETED. AND YOU WILL SEE AS THE NEXT 18 MONTHS GO THAT NUMBER, THAT NUMBER GO UP. OUR CURRENT INITIATIVES ARE SOME THAT YOU MAY NOT BE AS FAMILIAR WITH. WE DID LAUNCH THIS YEAR A SMALL DEVELOPER LOAN PROGRAM. WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT AT OUR BUDGET HEARING THIS YEAR. IT TOOK A LITTLE BIT TO GET OUT THE DOOR, BUT IT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL. ONCE IT WAS LAUNCHED, WE RECEIVED A DECENT AMOUNT OF APPLICATIONS PRETTY EARLY ON, AND SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO COMMIT ALMOST $2 MILLION IN FINANCING TO SMALLER DEVELOPERS, AND THAT THAT WILL REHAB 29 UNITS. WE ARE HOPEFUL IN THE FISCAL YEAR 26 BUDGET TO DO ANOTHER ROUND OF THAT PROGRAM, RETOOLING IT A LITTLE BIT WITH THE HOPE THAT WE CAN HELP BUILD CAPACITY AROUND THE SMALLER DEVELOPERS AND TURN THEM INTO MEDIUM DEVELOPERS AND THEN ULTIMATELY LARGE DEVELOPERS. ALSO, YOU ALL HEARD FROM OUR CONSULTANT, KAREN BLACK. WE JUST FINISHED UP THIS HOME REPAIR NEEDS ASSESSMENT. AND SO THERE IS A NEW COLLABORATION, THE LOUISVILLE HOME REPAIR NETWORK, THAT IS MADE UP OF NONPROFITS WORKING ON HOMEOWNER REPAIR. SO THIS THE GOAL THIS UPCOMING YEAR IS FOR THOSE THOSE MEMBERS OF THAT NETWORK TO MOVE TOWARD CENTRALIZED INTAKE SO THAT WHEN YOU HAVE CONSTITUENTS THAT ARE LOOKING FOR HOME REPAIR AND IN, YOU KNOW, IN SOMEWHAT OF A ANXIOUS STATE BECAUSE THEY THEY 
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HAVE A HOLE IN THEIR ROOF OR THEY DON'T HAVE A FURNACE, INSTEAD OF HAVING TO CALL, YOU KNOW, SEVEN DIFFERENT PLACES TO SEE IF THERE'S HELP, THEY'RE CALLING ONE PLACE AND BEING ABLE TO GET THE INFORMATION THAT THEY NEED. THAT'S OUR GOAL FOR THIS NEXT YEAR. AND THEN YOU WILL YOU MAY HAVE HEARD ABOUT AND YOU WILL HEAR ABOUT MORE OF OUR PUBLICLY OWNED LAND PROJECTS. 
          THESE WE HAVE A FEW OF THESE UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW. VETERANS VILLAGE OUT OF DIXIE HIGHWAY, THE COMMUNITY CARE CAMPUS, AND THE CHANCERY PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. SO THESE ARE THESE ARE PROPERTIES THAT METRO EITHER OWNED OR ACQUIRED AND ARE WORKING ON TURNING INTO SOME SORT OF HOUSING. HOUSING USE. SO TO SWITCH OVER TO OUR STRATEGIES, I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF CLARIFY THAT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT YOU ALL, AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, ARE FAMILIAR WITH CODES AND REGS. THEY DEAL WITH VACANT PROPERTIES ALL DAY LONG. THEIR PROPERTY MAINTENANCE OFFICERS ARE THE ONES THAT PROVIDE US THAT INFORMATION. OUR TEAM DEALS WITH CHRONIC, VACANT AND ABANDONED PROPERTIES. SO, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A PROPERTY THAT BECOMES VACANT ONCE CODES GOES OUT AND CITES IT AND IT COMES BACK INTO COMPLIANCE, THAT'S NOT A HOUSE OR A PROPERTY THAT WE GET INVOLVED WITH. WE OUR TEAM REALLY DEALS WITH THE CHRONIC VACANT AND ABANDONED PROPERTIES SO THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT VACANT PLUS ONE OF THOSE 2 OR 2 OF THOSE FOUR EXCUSE ME PROPERTIES DELINQUENT TAXES. IT'S REALLY DETERIORATED. SO WE REALLY WE REALLY WANT TO GET INTO THE HOUSES THAT ARE TRULY ABANDONED, THAT NOTHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN WITHOUT GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION. SO RIGHT NOW YOU'LL SEE THE LIST, THE TALL LIST OF, OF RED ARE THE STRATEGIES THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE. WE DO HAVE A CROSS-FUNCTIONAL TEAM AT METRO THAT TAKES A LOOK AT THE THESE CHRONIC, VACANT AND ABANDONED PROPERTIES TO SEE WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT THE OWNERSHIP, WHICH IS MORE LONG TERM, AND THEN WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT THE PROPERTY ITSELF. SO DOES THE PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, ARE THEY IS THERE TROUBLE WITH PEOPLE GETTING IN THE PROPERTY THAT SHOULDN'T BE IN THERE? DOES IT NEED TO BE CLEAR BOARDED? IS THE PROPERTY HISTORIC AND MAYBE IT NEEDS WE'RE WORRIED THAT IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE DEMOLISHED. SO WE NEED TO STABILIZE IT. AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE, CAN WE FORECLOSE ON IT? DO WE NEED A CONSERVATOR? YOU KNOW, CAN WE FIND SOMEBODY AND THEY DONATE IT, THAT THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF STRATEGIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. AND YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE NUMBERS THAT THAT WE DO PER YEAR. SO WITH THE FUNDING THAT WE HAVE, WE ARE ABLE TO FORECLOSE, INITIATE FORECLOSURE ON 150 TO 200 A YEAR. WE DO ACCEPT AROUND 30 PROPERTIES AS A DONATION. DEMOLITION GOES UP AND DOWN DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE HOUSE, OF COURSE, BUT WE'RE AT ABOUT 80 TO 100 A YEAR. LAND BANK WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN A MINUTE BECAUSE WE'VE GOT SOME NEW INITIATIVES COMING UP WITH THAT. BUT OUR ACQUISITION AND DISPOSITION NUMBERS HAVE EVENED OUT AROUND 100 TO 150 ISH OVER THE PAST COUPLE YEARS, BUT WE'RE EXPECTING THAT TO COME UP. AND JUST TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT OUR GOAL WITH THESE CHRONIC, VACANT AND ABANDONED PROPERTIES IS TO GET AN OCCUPIED, COMPLIANT PROPERTY AND RESPONSIBLE OWNERSHIP. SO WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO HELP WITH THAT, THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. SO JUST TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF INITIATIVES ON THE ON THE IN VAP LAND, WE ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROGRAM THAT THAT WE WERE ABLE TO LAUNCH THIS YEAR. WE'RE CALLING IT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING LOAN FORGIVENESS PILOT PROGRAM, BUT IT IS A WAY THAT THE CITY CAN INTERVENE IN A PRIVATE TRANSACTION WITHOUT TAKING OWNERSHIP OF A PROPERTY, WITHOUT SPENDING ANY MONEY IN THE PROPERTY. WHAT WE ARE DOING IS IF A DEVELOPER CAN FIND THE OWNER OF A PROPERTY THAT THE CITY HAS ASSUMED TO BE ABANDONED AND THEY ARE WILLING TO PURCHASE IT FROM THE PRIVATE OWNER AND REHAB IT AND TURN IT INTO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THE CITY. WE WILL WAIVE THE CODE ENFORCEMENT LIENS ON THAT PROPERTY. SO WHERE IT IS LIKELY THAT THOSE LIENS THAT HAD ADDED UP ARE PROBABLY NOT COLLECTIBLE ANYWAY, BY THE BY THE OWNER. IN THIS SCENARIO, WE ARE WE ARE FORGIVING THOSE THEY TURN INTO ESSENTIALLY A SECOND MORTGAGE. AND THEN THE PROPERTY IS REHABBED AND SOLD. SO YOU'RE SEEING THE FIRST ONE THAT IS ACTUALLY BEEN COMPLETED. WE HAVE SIX SIX UNDERWAY WITH ANOTHER FOUR IN THE PIPELINE I JUST LAUNCHED IN JANUARY. AND SO WE'RE WE'RE HOPING TO SEE A LOT OF A LOT MORE TRACTION ON THIS. 
          IT IS A IT IS A PIECE OF THE VACANT AND ABANDONED PROPERTY PUZZLE. IT'S CERTAINLY NOT THE WHOLE PUZZLE, BUT IT IS ONE TOOL THAT THAT THAT WE'VE LAUNCHED THIS YEAR AND HAS BEEN HAS BEEN PRETTY SUCCESSFUL ALREADY. FINALLY, OUR OTHER TWO CURRENT INITIATIVES, INITIATIVES THAT WE HAVE THAT THAT, THAT I WANTED TO SHARE ABOUT TODAY, WE, THE LAND BANK, RECEIVED A GRANT A COUPLE 
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OF YEARS AGO TO START SOMETHING THAT WE'RE CALLING L TOOLS, BUT IT IS A MOBILE RESERVABLE TOOL LIBRARY FULL OF LAWN MAINTENANCE EQUIPMENT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS CAN'T BE INDIVIDUALS. IT NEEDS TO BE GROUPS. NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS CAN CAN RESERVE, AND IT HAS LAWN MOWERS AND BATTERIES AND WEED WHACKERS AND, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING FOR LAWN MAINTENANCE. WE ARE OUR CURRENT CODES AND REGS WILL BRING THE TOOL TRAILER TO WHEREVER THE NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATION NEEDS IT, AND THEY CAN RESERVE IT ONLINE. SO IF YOU HAVE CONSTITUENTS OR NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS INTERESTED IN THIS TO DO A CLEANUP, THEY WANT TO MOW THEIR OWN LAWNS. THEY WANT TO MOW, YOU KNOW, ON THEIR BLOCK. GREAT. THAT'S IT'S BEEN WE JUST LAUNCHED IT THIS SEASON. 
          SO WE'VE HAD IT A COUPLE OF EVENTS. IT'S BEEN WE'VE HAD A LOT OF INTEREST IN IT. BUT THERE YOU CAN RESERVE IT ONLINE AND THERE'S A THERE'S A LINK THERE. AND THEN FINALLY NEXT WEEK THE LOUISVILLE LAND BANK, WHICH AS A REMINDER, IS A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY, THE STATE AND THE SCHOOL BOARD WILL BE VOTING ON SOME NEW PROGRAMS THAT WILL ALLOW MULTI PARCEL SALES. THE LAND BANK HISTORICALLY HAS BEEN HAS SOLD PROPERTIES ONE AT A TIME, AND THAT'S WORKED FOR A WHILE. BUT NOW WITH AN INVENTORY OF OVER 800 PARCELS, WE'RE READY TO TAKE A LOOK AT DEVELOPERS THAT HAVE CAPACITY THAT ARE THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVE A PLAN AND HAVE PROOF OF FUNDING. AND WE ARE PRESENTING THAT TO THE BOARD TO HAVE THEM APPROVE PROGRAMS THAT WILL ALLOW MULTIPLE PARCELS AT AGENCIES TO PURCHASE MORE THAN ONE PARCEL AT A TIME. SO JUST TO FINISH UP, THIS IS OUR CONTACT INFORMATION. WE ARE HAPPY TO HAVE ANYBODY CONTACT US. WE HAVE THE WEBSITE. WE HAVE A PHONE NUMBER. WE DO HAVE AN EMAIL LISTSERV. WE PROMISE WE WILL NOT SPAM YOU, BUT WE WILL SEND OUT. IT'S PRETTY MUCH ONCE A MONTH A NEWSLETTER AND OR INFORMATION ABOUT THE LAND BANK MEETINGS. IF YOU IF YOUR CONSTITUENTS HAVE ORGANIZATIONS, CHURCHES, NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT ONE OR MORE OF OUR PROGRAMS, PLEASE CONTACT US. WE ARE HAPPY TO COME OUT AND YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE PICTURES WHERE WE WERE DOING SOME EDUCATION AND TABLING SOME EVENTS. WE WILL. WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING FUNDING AFTER THE BEGINNING OF THE NEW FISCAL YEAR. AND SO WE WOULD LIKE SMALL AND LARGE DEVELOPERS ALIKE TO APPLY FOR FINANCING. AND OF COURSE EVERYONE IS. EVERYONE IS WELCOME TO ATTEND OR WATCH A LAND BANK MEETING, WHICH IS USUALLY ON THE SECOND MONDAY OF THE MONTH. SO WITH THAT, I WILL STOP TALKING FINALLY AND SEE IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, OR IF YOU WANT ME TO GO IN DEPTH ON ANYTHING ELSE. OH, ONE ON THE REPAIR. HOW DID THEY GO ABOUT, YOU KNOW, CALLING ONE OF THESE NUMBERS ABOUT REPAIR? IS IT BY INCOME OR WHAT IS SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT. THAT HOME AFFAIR? NO. IS THAT THE ONE THAT NEW DIRECTIONS, THE REPAIR DIRECTION. YES. SO. SO TOO I THINK. YES. EXACTLY. SO WE SO OUR OUR DEPARTMENT HAS DONE WE'VE RUN A HOME REPAIR PROGRAM FOR A LOT OF YEARS. AND SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE THE CITY WE DO NOT HAVE AN OPEN HOME REPAIR PROGRAM RIGHT NOW. THERE WILL BE WE ARE EXPECTING TO BE ABLE TO OPEN A HOME REPAIR PROGRAM UP AFTER THE BEGINNING OF THE FISCAL YEAR, PROBABLY IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS, THAT THOSE REPAIR, THOSE REPAIRS WILL BE ADMINISTERED BY OUR SUBRECIPIENTS BY NON-PROFITS. 
          THAT'S WHAT WHEN KAREN BLACK WAS HERE FOR MAY 8TH, CONSULTING, PROVIDING SOME RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          ONE OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS WAS FOR METRO FOR US TO GET OUT OF THAT DIRECT SERVICE AND TO LET THE NONPROFITS DO THAT AND HAVE METRO PROVIDE FUNDING AND AN OVERSIGHT OF THAT. SO WHEN THAT OPENS UP, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THAT ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE AWARE OF WHAT NUMBER THAT IS. 
          I'M HESITANT TO GIVE ANYTHING OUT NOW BECAUSE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE OF WHAT YOU KNOW, WHAT THE WHAT THE ACTUAL PROCESS WILL BE, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE PEOPLE THAT'S ALREADY ON THE NEW DIRECTION LIST? THEY'VE GOT A LONG LIST. SO WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE THAT'S STILL ON THAT LIST? THEY I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY. AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR NEW DIRECTIONS, BUT I KNOW THAT THEY THAT WHEN OUR CONSULTANT WAS LOOKING INTO THE DIFFERENT NON-PROFITS THAT RAN HOME REPAIR, SOME PEOPLE KEPT WAITING LISTS, SOME PEOPLE DIDN'T. WE, YOU KNOW, WE THE CITY WE HAVE NOT WE DON'T KEEP A WAITING LIST. YOU KNOW, WE OPENED AND THEN WE WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN FUND THIS MANY PEOPLE AND THEN EVERYBODY ELSE WOULD, WOULD GET A LETTER SAYING, YOU KNOW, 
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WE DON'T HAVE FUNDING FOR YOU. I DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY ABOUT NEW DIRECTIONS, BUT I CAN ABSOLUTELY FIND THAT OUT AND, AND GET BACK WITH YOU. BUT I GOT A LITTLE LADY THAT'S BEEN ON THAT LIST FOREVER, AND SHE CALLS EVERY DAY, AND ALL SHE WANTS IS TO GET HER SINK FIXED. BUT, YOU KNOW, I JUST COULDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT SHE'S FILLED OUT THE PAPERWORK. SHE'S DONE EVERYTHING SHE'S SUPPOSED TO DO. BUT THAT LIST, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN ON THERE. AND SO IF WE'RE CLOSING OUT ONE, WHO'S GOING TO PICK UP THAT? YOU KNOW, THOSE THINGS, IT'S ALMOST LIKE WE CLOSING OUT THINGS AND THERE'S A GAP THERE. AND YOU'RE LEAVING THESE PEOPLE THAT NEED ASSISTANCE. THIS OUT THERE THINKING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET A CALL, WHICH THEY'RE NOT. WELL, LET ME FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ABOUT THAT, ABOUT THAT SPECIFIC CLIENT. AND WE CAN AT LEAST GET AN ANSWER ON WHAT'S GOING ON THERE. I WILL SAY THAT WHEN OUR CONSULTANT, THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WE REALLY WANTED THAT NEEDS ASSESSMENT DONE. BECAUSE TO YOUR POINT, THERE IS SO MUCH MORE NEED THAN ANYONE HAD FUNDING FOR, YOU KNOW, METRO, NEW DIRECTIONS DONATIONS, ANY OF THAT. THEY I MEAN, KAREN BLACK CAME BACK WITH THERE IS LIKELY AN ESTIMATE OF 29,000 HOMEOWNERS IN NEED OF ASSISTANCE. AND I MEAN, THERE WAS MAYBE A THOUSAND GETTING SERVED. AND THAT'S NOT JUST FROM METRO, THAT'S FROM THE WHOLE, YOU KNOW, ANYONE ALL THOSE ORGANIZATIONS PROVIDING HOME REPAIRS. SO THERE IS DEFINITELY A NEED OUT THERE. BUT FOR THAT SPECIFIC CLIENT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT SITUATION IS. SO LET ME FOLLOW UP WITH YOU AND I'LL GET MAKE THAT CONNECTION WITH NEW DIRECTIONS AND SEE IF WE CAN AT LEAST GET AN ANSWER OF WHAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE WHO HAVE ALREADY APPLIED AND THINK THEY'RE ON A WAITING LIST TO BE FALLING THROUGH THE CRACKS. RIGHT. THIS LADY HAS SHE SORT OF HAS SOME MENTAL PROBLEMS SO SHE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THE SYSTEM, AND IT'S BAD ENOUGH THAT SHE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND IT. AND SHE CALLS EVERY DAY AND I TALK TO HER ABOUT IT, BUT SHE NEVER GETS A CALL BACK. AND SHE STILL. 
          WELL, SHE SAID, WELL, CAN I GO PAY SOMEBODY TO DO IT? I TOLD HER, JUST WAIT AND WE'LL SEE IF THEY'RE GOING TO COME AND FIX IT. BUT IT'S HEARTBREAKING TO SEE PEOPLE GO THROUGH THIS AND NOBODY RETURNS THEIR CALL. AND SO I JUST HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT AS WELL. AND I WILL SAY THAT IS ONE THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THAT. AND THAT IS ONE REASON WHY WE I THINK COLLECTIVELY AS THE NETWORK OF HOME REPAIR PROVIDERS, WE REALLY WANT TO GO TO THAT CENTRALIZED INTAKE SO THAT THERE SO THAT THE CLIENT ITSELF, THEIR CLIENT THEMSELVES HAS ONE PLACE TO CALL THAT, ONE PLACE HAS THE STATUS AND UNDERSTANDS HOW TO MANAGE THE EXPECTATIONS GOING FORWARD. WE'RE NOT QUITE THERE YET, BUT THAT'S THAT'S WHERE WE'RE HEADING. OKAY. OKAY, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION, BUT I'LL WAIT UNTIL AFTER YOU FINISHED. 
          COUNCILMAN SIGN, PLEASE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. A COUPLE QUESTIONS AFTER LISTENING TO YOUR PRESENTATION, HAVE WE IDENTIFIED THE VACANT PROPERTIES IN LOUISVILLE? DO WE HAVE A MAP OR ARE THEY IDENTIFIED BOTH? BOTH COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL? YES. FOR THE MOST PART, IT'S A IT'S A COMPLICATED QUESTION BECAUSE IT CHANGES FREQUENTLY. BUT YES, WE GENERALLY KNOW WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THOSE VACANT PROPERTIES, WHICH IS VACANT, PLUS A COUPLE OF OTHER FACTORS. 
          WE HAVE A GENERAL IDEA OF WHERE THOSE ARE AND WHERE THEY'RE CONCENTRATED. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE ASKED FOR IS, IS A MAP. FIND OUT WHAT THESE AREAS ARE, ARE ARE ANY OF THESE BUILDINGS THAT THAT ARE THERE? CAN THEY BE CONVERTED. AND I SEE THAT WE CAN BUILD A DOLLAR GENERAL ON FOR WEEKS, BUT WE CAN'T CONVERT A WAREHOUSE TO PUT SOME OF THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING ON CONCRETE. I'M WONDERING ABOUT THAT, BUT DO YOU HAVE A MAP OF THOSE OF THE AREAS OF PROPERTIES YOU'VE SERVED ALREADY? YES, YES. IS THAT WITH A FOR VACANT AND ABANDONED PROPERTIES? YES. YES WE CAN. YES. IF WE DON'T HAVE IT, WE CAN. WE CAN GET IT EASILY. WE CAN SEND. WHERE WOULD YOU SAY A LOT OF THAT IS, IS FOCUSED ON THE AREAS OF CONCENTRATION ARE GENERALLY IN THE WEST BUT IT'S NOT THE WE HAVE IT AT THE CENSUS TRACT LEVEL. THAT'S GENERALLY OUR GOAL IS TO FOCUS ON THE CENSUS TRACTS THAT HAVE MORE THAN 4% OF VACANT AND ABANDONED PROPERTIES. AND SO THEY ARE WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD IMAGINE THEY ARE WHERE YOU CAN DRIVE THROUGH AND SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST ONE HOUSE, BUT IT'S MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE HOUSES. BUT WE CAN GET WE CAN I CAN FOLLOW UP AND GET YOU THAT. YEAH. I'D LIKE TO FIND OUT WHERE THE CONCENTRATION IS, BECAUSE I LIVE IN THE AREA THAT'S NOT FOCUSED ON AT ALL. AND IN THE FAIRDALE AND THERE'S NO FOCUS AND I AND I AND IT'S BECAUSE THERE'S NOT BEEN BEEN ANY ADVOCATES IN THAT AREA. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING THAT I'M ADVOCATING FOR THE AREA. AND I WANT TO FIND OUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING SOUTH OF THE WATERSON AND WHERE OUR MONEY IS GOING THERE. 
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PROJECT MANAGERS, DO YOU HAVE ISSUES WITH PROJECT MANAGERS? WE HAVE PROJECT MANAGERS ON OUR TEAM. I DON'T WHEN YOU MEAN ISSUES. DO YOU MEAN HIRING HIGH WORRYING ABOUT DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE THAT HAVE PROJECT MANAGERS AND DO YOU SUBCONTRACT TO GET THESE ISSUES OH, TAKEN CARE OF IN A TIMELY MANNER INSTEAD OF WAITING LIKE POURING MOLASSES WITH METRO GOVERNMENT? SO I THINK THAT SO WE DO HAVE PROJECT MANAGERS. I WANT TO SAY WE HAVE 6 OR 7. I THINK THE DIFFERENCE ON FROM OUR TEAM, FROM PROJECT MANAGERS AT SOME OF THE OTHER AGENCIES IS WE ARE MOSTLY OVERSEEING DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, SO THEY'RE THE DEVELOPER ITSELF HAS A PROJECT MANAGER. THEY'VE GOT A CONSTRUCTION MANAGER. WE ARE OVERSEEING THAT. IT'S IN A LITTLE BIT. WE'RE ACTING A LITTLE BIT LIKE THE BANK. SO FOR US, WE DO CONTRACT OUT CERTAIN THINGS. SCOPES OF WORK FOR BIG BUILDINGS AND TRYING TO THINK OF OTHER THINGS THAT WE CONTRACT OUT. BUT MOST OF THE TIME WE ARE DEALING WITH IT IN-HOUSE. OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO GET THE INFORMATION ON THE MAPPING. SURE. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH THAT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I NEED TO GO BACK TO WHERE COUNCILWOMAN SHANKLIN WAS TALKING ABOUT. THIS LADY WITH A BAD SINK. SO IS THIS A GOVERNMENT OR IS THIS A GOVERNMENT ASSISTED HOUSE, OR IS THIS A GOVERNMENT ASSISTED HOUSE? I DON'T THINK SO. OH, THIS IS SOMEBODY THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD SAID, HEY, I GOT A BAD SINK. OH, SHE SAID ELDERLY ELDERLY WOMAN SHE APPLIED FOR GOT THE NAME OF IT ALREADY. REPAIR AFFAIR. EITHER ONE OF THOSE OR OR OR HOME REPAIR. I GAVE IT A NUMBER FOR BOTH. OKAY. AND SHE NEVER GOT A CALL. 
          THERE'S SOMEBODY THAT SHE CALLS. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE HELPFUL. IS THAT RIGHT? I DON'T UNDERSTAND, I'M NOT IN. THEY'VE GOT THAT PROGRAM THAT'S SUPPOSED TO HELP THEM ONCE THEY FILL OUT. AND IF THEY MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS, AM I RIGHT? YES. I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO GET TO I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT THE DETAILS. OBVIOUSLY NOT IN THIS FORUM. WE DO. WE HAVE HAD A HOME REPAIR PROGRAM IN THE PAST WHERE OUR TEAM WOULD TAKE CALLS AND TAKE INTAKE. WE HAVE ALSO SUPPORTED NONPROFITS AND THOSE NONPROFITS RUN THEIR OWN PROGRAMS. SO THERE ARE A LOT OF OPTIONS HERE. TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO CALL BACK, WHERE DID THIS PERSON COME FROM? AND I DON'T KNOW THAT RIGHT THIS SECOND. WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT WE AS A COMMUNITY, NOT JUST THE CITY, BUT WE AS A COMMUNITY, WE DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH FUNDING TO HELP PEOPLE LIKE THIS PERSON THAT DOCTOR SHANKLIN IS TALKING ABOUT, THAT, THAT ARE ELDERLY, THAT HAVE A FIXED INCOME, THAT DON'T, THAT CANNOT AFFORD THEY NEED TO STAY IN THEIR HOUSE BECAUSE IT'S THE MOST AFFORDABLE ONE THAT THEY HAVE, BUT THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO FIX SOME OF THE THINGS THAT GO WRONG. SO, YOU KNOW, LONGER TERM WE NEED A BIGGER WE NEED WE NEED MORE OPTIONS FOR THOSE PEOPLE. BUT SPECIFICALLY ON THIS ONE, I WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW UP AFTER TO FIGURE OUT WHAT PROGRAM IS IT THAT SHE IS THINKING THAT SHE APPLIED TO, AND WHO IS SUPPOSED TO BE DOING WHAT, SO WE CAN GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THAT? WELL, TO ME, I CAN'T IMAGINE IF SOMEBODY'S GOT A SINK. IT DOESN'T WORK. I MEAN, I COULD HANDLE THAT PERSONALLY. AND TO ME, AND SHE'S WANTING TO MAYBE EVEN PAY FOR IT OR SOMETHING. SHE NEEDS HELP AND MAYBE I'D GO FIX IT MYSELF. YOU KNOW, GOVERNMENT, IT TEACHES PEOPLE NOT TO BE USEFUL. AND I HATE THAT. YOU KNOW, IF YOU FIND A WAY THAT YOU CAN SOLVE A PROBLEM. YEARS AGO, A PERSON HAD A HAD A TREE FELL INTO A CEMETERY IN MY ONE OF MY SUBDIVISIONS, AND HE WANTED ME TO GET A DUMPSTER TO PUT THE TREE IN. I WENT OVER AND LOOKED AT IT, I THINK TIME I GET A DUMPSTER. SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, GO THROUGH PAPERWORK THREE MONTHS. SO I WENT OVER WITH MY CHAINSAW AND MY, MY CHIPPER, AND I CHIPPED IT ALL UP AND THE GUY COME UP AND SAID, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? SO I'M GETTING RID OF THIS TREE. HE SAID, WHO TOLD YOU YOU COULD DO THAT? I SAID, I DIDN'T KNOW I HAD TO HAVE PERMISSION. SO WHO ARE YOU? I SAID, I'M NOBODY, BUT MY NAME IS STUART BENSON. I'M YOUR COUNCILMAN. HE SAID, OH, WELL, YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO DO THIS. I SAID, I'M SUPPOSED TO DO ANYTHING I WANT AS LONG AS I'M NOT HURTING ANYBODY. I DIDN'T GET A PERMIT. MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE A PERMIT AND GOT EVERYBODY, 4 OR 5 PEOPLE FROM THE GOVERNMENT, COME AND WATCH ME OR SOMETHING. BUT I THOUGHT IT EASY TO JUST GO AHEAD AND DO IT. AND PRETTY MUCH I LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, FIX THINGS AND WE NEED TO GET GOING. AND THIS WOMAN WITH A BAD SINK, THAT MAKES ME SICK. I MEAN, IF SHE'S OLD AND YOU HAVE A HOUSE, CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT THE REST OF THE HOUSE IS LIKE IF 
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YOU CAN'T USE A SINK? I MEAN, IT BOTHERS ME. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE HELPFUL, AND THE LEAST OF US IS ALWAYS SOMEBODY'S SUPPOSED TO TAKE UP, PICK UP AND GO. YOU MIGHT NEED TO GIVE ME THAT WOMAN'S NAME. THIS IS TERRIBLE. NO. YEAH. MY PROBLEM, YOU KNOW, MY CONCERNS IS I'VE GIVEN HER THE TWO NUMBERS. ONE WOULD REPAIR FAIR AND THE OTHER ONE NEW DIRECTIONS. AND I THINK SHE FILLED OUT THE APPLICATION. BUT ANYTIME I CALL HER, SHE'LL SAY, WELL, SHE CALLS ME EVERY DAY. 
          AND. AND I SAID, WELL, HAVE THEY CALLED OR ANYTHING? SHE SAID, NO, NOBODY'S CALLED. SHE SAID, WELL, I CALLED THIS GUY. YOU WANT ME TO GET HIM TO FIX IT FOR ME? I GOT $200. AND I SAID, NO, JUST WAIT UNTIL YOU HEAR FROM HIM. BUT SEE, SHE'S STRUGGLING AS IT IS. AND MY CONCERN IS A LOT OF THESE AGENCIES, THEY DON'T CALL YOU BACK. AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M THINKING WITH THIS NEW PROGRAM, IT'S GOING TO LEAVE A GAP IN BETWEEN. THEY'RE ALREADY NOT GETTING CALLS BACK AND THEY'RE NOT GETTING THAT'S A SIMPLE FIX. YOU KNOW, SHE'S NOT ASKING FOR SOMEBODY TO BUILD SOMETHING ON HER HOUSE OR WHATEVER, OR SHE'S ASKING FOR IS SOMEBODY TO FIX HER KITCHEN SINK. I THINK, MADAM CHAIR, WHAT I WILL ADD IS THAT THERE IS A GAP NOW. THERE REALLY IS. I MEAN, WE DO. I MEAN, THE STORY THAT YOU HAVE OUR, OUR TEAM HEARS THAT FROM QUITE A LOT OF PEOPLE PER DAY, AS DOES NEW DIRECTIONS AND HABITAT. AND I GUESS THE I AM SINGLY OPTIMISTIC THAT IF WE CAN GET THE GROUPS TOGETHER AND HAVE, YOU KNOW, ONE PLACE WHERE PEOPLE ARE COMING IN THAT THEY HAVE BETTER, A BETTER CHANCE TO GET SERVED THAN IF THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THAT PARTICULAR CLIENT IS HAVING TO CALL SEVEN DIFFERENT AGENCIES. I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE NEEDS TO BE BETTER CUSTOMER SERVICE. WE NEED TO HAVE BETTER ANSWERS FOR PEOPLE. 
          WE NEED TO MANAGE PEOPLE'S EXPECTATIONS BETTER. I DON'T THINK THAT SWITCHING TO, YOU KNOW, A CENTRALIZED INTAKE, WHICH WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO TRY WE'RE GOING TO PILOT IT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO SEE IF IT WORKS. BUT THERE IT IT IS NOT GOING TO CREATE A GAP. I THINK IT'S GOING TO FILL THE GAP THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW PEOPLE ARE BOUNCING AROUND BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT THINK THAT NEW DIRECTIONS HAS FUNDING AND THEY MIGHT THINK THAT HABITAT HAS FUNDING. AND SO PEOPLE ARE BEING TOLD TO, YOU KNOW, GO TO DIFFERENT PLACES WHEN AT THE END OF THE DAY, THERE'S NOT FUNDING. ALL THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO IS JUST SEND OUT SOMETHING TO THE COUNCIL PEOPLE, LETTING THEM KNOW THAT THEY'RE OUT OF FUNDING. SO WE WOULDN'T REFER OUR CLIENTS OR CONSTITUENTS TO THAT ANYMORE. RIGHT? YOU'RE RIGHT. SO IF WE KNEW MORE INFORMATION, THEN I WOULD HAVE TOLD THE LADY THAT, YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T HAVE GIVEN HER THE PHONE NUMBERS. SO, WELL, THAT SPECIFIC SITUATION, LIKE I SAID, I'D LIKE TO FOLLOW UP WITH YOU BECAUSE THAT SOUNDS A LITTLE DIFFERENT SINCE SHE WAS ABLE TO FILL OUT AN APPLICATION. THERE ARE CERTAINLY A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE ANSWER THE PHONE, WE, WE, WE DON'T TAKE AN APPLICATION OR NEW DIRECTIONS DOESN'T TAKE AN APPLICATION. SO THAT'S WHY I WOULD LIKE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH, WITH THAT PARTICULAR CLIENT. OKAY, I APPRECIATE THAT. AND THEN THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO ASK WAS ABOUT THE WHAT'S GOING ON OFF THE SCREEN, THE LAWN MOWERS AND ALL OF THAT. IS THAT LIKE YOUR RENT THAT YOU RENT THEM FROM THAT AGENCY OR WHAT? YEAH, IT'S ACTUALLY IT'S FREE. IT IS FOR NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN DOING CLEANUPS ON THEIR BLOCKS OR IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. AND SO THEY WOULD RESERVE IT THROUGH, THROUGH ESSENTIALLY US OR THROUGH THE LAND BANK AND CODES AND TAKES IT OUT. THEY DROP THE TRAILER. YOU CAN SEE THE, THE, THE TRAILER, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE UP THERE. AND IT'S FILLED WITH LAWN MOWERS AND SAFETY EQUIPMENT AND. TREE WEED WHACKERS. I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THE RIGHT WORD FOR THOSE. RIGHT WORD FOR THAT. WEED EATERS. THANK YOU, WEED EATERS. SORRY ABOUT THAT. SO WE IT JUST STARTED I THINK WE'VE DONE A COUPLE TWO EVENTS, BUT WE HAD HAD A LOT OF A LOT OF INTEREST. SO IT'S YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE ON A BLOCK, MAYBE THEY DON'T OWN A LAWN MOWER OR MAYBE THEIR LAWN MOWER IS BROKEN OR WHATEVER. THIS IS A WAY THAT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP CAN BRING THIS TRAILER AND HAVE IT FOR A DAY OR TWO AND CLEAN UP THEIR, THEIR BLOCK. SOME OF OUR CITIZENS, I MEAN, SENIOR CITIZENS. YEAH. YEAH, I DID HAVE A PROGRAM THAT I PAID. ELDER SERVE AND THEY BROUGHT A CREW OUT AND ALL THE SENIORS THAT NEEDED THEIR YARD CLEANED OR WHATEVER, THEY TOOK CARE OF THAT. BUT I DIDN'T CONTINUE THE 
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PROGRAM BECAUSE IT GOT TO THE PLACE. I DIDN'T HAVE AS MANY SENIORS. AND THEN AFTER I STOPPED THE PROGRAM, EVERYBODY CAME AND SAID, DO YOU HAVE THAT PROGRAM WHERE SOMEBODY COME CUT MY GRASS OR WHATEVER? SO OPEN DONNA, GET IT STARTED AGAIN. SO BUT I THINK THAT'S DO WE HAVE ANY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS. YOU OKAY, MISS WARD, ARE YOU COUNCILWOMAN? EVERYBODY'S I THINK EVERYBODY'S GOT THEIR QUESTIONS ARE CONCERNED ANSWERED. BUT I WILL TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE YOUNG LADY. YES, PLEASE. YES. YOUNG LADY. YES. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. OKAY. WELL, IF WE HAVE NOTHING ELSE, THEN WE ARE ADJOURNED. OKAY. THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.