[00:27:04] I THINK. YEAH. RIGHT. EXACTLY. YEAH. RIGHT. RIGHT. RIGHT. I [00:27:44] THINK THAT THAT THAT IS MY RECOMMENDATION. THAT THAT I WOULD GET. YES. RIGHT. [00:28:08] BUT. YEAH. YEAH. YEAH I. [00:29:05] I FEEL LIKE I'M GETTING. [00:30:15] I GET. I. [00:30:52] YEAH I. YEAH. YEAH THAT'S GOOD. YEAH I FEEL LIKE THEY'RE DOING. YEAH YEAH SO I, I. KNOW. THAT. [00:31:24] THEY ARE AND THEY'RE NOT. AND I AND I DON'T REALLY WANT TO. AND, AND THAT'S NOT MY FAULT. I CAN'T GET OUT THERE LIKE. LIKE THEY'RE NOT. THEY'RE. BASICALLY. YEAH. THEY. THEY'RE. THEY'RE. LIKE AND THEY'RE. YEAH. AND. I. YEAH. YEAH. THAT'S WHY I. LIKE. [00:35:02] THAT. YEAH. THAT. ONE. LIKE. I. LIKE THAT. ONE. YEAH. THAT. ONE. LIKE. YEAH. YEAH YEAH YEAH. THERE IT IS. LIKE. YEAH. IT'S LIKE. THE END OF THE WORLD. BUT I THINK. YEAH. I THINK THAT. MAY. [00:41:54] END. UP. [00:47:51] METRO TV WILL START IN 30S. [Call to Order] WILL BE RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M COUNCILMAN KEVIN CRAMER CHAIR OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE. IT IS 452 ON THURSDAY AFTERNOON, JUNE 5TH PRESENT. WITH ME IN CHAMBERS IS VICE CHAIR MARCUS [Roll Call] WINKLER. WE'RE JOINED ALSO ON CHAMBERS BY COUNCILWOMAN PARKER, COUNCILWOMAN WOOLRIDGE, COUNCILMAN HUDSON, AND COUNCILMAN LINENGER. WE'RE JOINED ONLINE BY COUNCILWOMAN PARRISH. RIGHT. WE HAVE FOUR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TODAY. WE WILL NOT HEAR THE FIRST TWO AT THE REQUEST OF THE SPONSORS. SO WE WILL DEAL WITH ORDINANCES NUMBERS THREE AND FOUR. BEFORE I JUMP INTO THE AGENDA, I'D ASK THE CLERK TO READ INTO THE RECORD THE VIRTUAL MEETING. COMMENTS. THIS BEING IS THIS MEETING IS BEING HELD PURSUANT TO KRS 61.826 AND COUNCIL RULE FIVE A READ IN FULL. THANK YOU. WE'RE JOINED ALSO IN CHAMBERS BY COUNCILMAN ANTHONY PIAGENTINI. [3. O-126-25     AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 100, SERIES 2024, RELATING TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2024-2025 OPERATING BUDGET, BY TRANSFERRING $25,000 FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUND (DISTRICT 26) TO THE LOUISVILLE METRO COUNCIL GENERAL OPERATIONS (DISTRICT 26). Action Required By: November 15, 2025 Sponsors: Brent Ackerson (D-26) ] THE FIRST ITEM IS ITEM ORDINANCE ONE 2625. IT IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 100 SERIES 2024 RELATING TO FISCAL YEAR 2024 2025 OPERATING BUDGET BY TRANSFERRING $25,000 FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUND IN DISTRICT 26 TO THE LOUISVILLE METRO COUNCIL. GENERAL OPERATIONS FOR DISTRICT 26. MOTION IS PROPERLY BEFORE US. I'M LOOKING TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK TO THIS. HE HAD SENT A MESSAGE SUGGESTING THAT HE WAS TRANSFERRING 25,000 FROM HIS KNIFE TO HIS CALL CENTER TO COVER THE COST OF PERMANENT, PART TIME EMPLOYEES IN THE BUDGET LINE. I DON'T SEE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK TO THIS. WE COULD. IT'S OVER THE $5,000 THAT TYPICALLY WE WOULD ASK SOMEBODY FROM THE OFFICE TO SPEAK TO. BUT LATONYA DID. DID YOU HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH HIM? NO, I DID NOT HAVE A CONVERSATION AS FAR AS ASKING ME TO SPEAK TO IT. BUT [00:50:04] I AM AWARE OF THIS, OF THIS TRANSFER. SO. SO YOU HAD CHECKED WITH HE HAD SPOKEN WITH YOU GUYS AND YEAH, WE'VE WORKED WITH HIM ON THIS TRANSFER, SO I'M AWARE OF IT, BUT HE DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY ASK ME TO SPEAK TO IT TODAY. BUT I WOULD BE GLAD TO IF YOU LIKE. IF YOU DO, YOU HAVE ANY COLOR TO ADD BEYOND WHAT I SHARED? PRETTY MUCH JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THEY CAN FINISH OUT THE YEAR BY TRANSFERRING TO COVER THEIR PERSONNEL COSTS. OKAY, SO THIS IS TO GUARANTEE THIS IS A ROUTINE TRANSFER SOME DISTRICTS MAKE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. SO THANK YOU. JOINED ALSO IN CHAMBERS BY COUNCILWOMAN MCCRANEY. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE CALLING FOR A ROLL CALL. VOTE. MADAM CHAIR. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE OPEN THE VOTING. COUNCILMAN PARRISH. RIGHT. YES, IT'S. OH, WELL, I'D RATHER HAVE HIM DO IT FOR COUNCILWOMAN MCCRANEY. YES. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN ACKERSON SENT A REPRESENTATIVE TO SPEAK TO THIS. UNFORTUNATELY, WE DIDN'T GIVE HIM A CHANCE. WE VOTED BEFORE WE GOT HERE, SO I JUST WANT THE RECORD REFLECT THAT COUNCILMAN ACKERSON DID, IN FACT, SEND SOMEONE TO SPEAK TO THIS. SO SHOULD SOMEONE ASK QUESTIONS LATER? HE HAD SOMEONE IN THE ROOM. I. THE NEXT ITEM IS [4. O-127-25     AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 100, SERIES 2024, RELATING TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2024-2025 OPERATING BUDGET, BY TRANSFERRING $10,000 FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUND (DISTRICT 23) TO THE LOUISVILLE METRO COUNCIL GENERAL OPERATIONS (DISTRICT 23). Action Required By: November 15, 2025 Sponsors: Jeff Hudson (R-23) ] ORDINANCE ONE 2725. IT IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 100, SERIES 24 2024 RELATED TO FISCAL YEAR 2024 2025 OPERATING BUDGET BY TRANSFERRING $10,000 FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUND FROM DISTRICT 23 TO NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE GENERAL OPERATIONS FOR DISTRICT 23. ANY MOTION. SECOND. OKAY, IF THERE'S NO ONE HERE FROM DISTRICT 23 TO SPEAK TO THIS, WE WILL HOLD THIS ITEM. OH, LOOK, THERE'S SOMEONE FROM DISTRICT 23. COUNCILMAN HUDSON. OH, RECOGNIZE MY COLLEAGUE FROM DISTRICT 19 FOR AN AMENDMENT. THANK YOU. WE. THERE'S A REASON FOR THIS. WE'RE GOING TO BE. DISTRICT 19 IS DOING A VERY LARGE SIDEWALK PROJECT IN OUR DISTRICT. WE ARE SHORT A FEW CALL IT 10 TO $15,000 IN CIF DOLLARS. SO WE WANT TO AMEND THIS BY MOVING $20,000 OF NDF MONEY FROM DISTRICT 19 TO CIF DOLLARS FOR DISTRICT 19. AND I'LL MAKE THAT IN THE FORM OF MOTION. SECOND, AND BETH STENBERG IS HERE IF SHE WANTS TO CLARIFY ANYTHING, OR LATANYA, I DON'T KNOW IF I THINK BETH WAS GOING TO DO IT, BUT IF YOU. YEAH, I THINK BETH CAN CLARIFY. BUT YEAH, WE WANT TO WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO. BUT THAT'S THE MOTION WHICH HAS BEEN SECONDED JUST TO MOVE THE 20,000 FROM DISTRICT 19 NDF TO CIF. PUBLIC WORKS. WE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN SOMETIME IN A FEW MONTHS. THEY BASICALLY SAID THEY HAVE SOMEBODY THAT CAN DO IT, LIKE WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, AND WE NEED TO GET THIS MOVED FASTER THAN WE ORIGINALLY ASSUMED. THANK YOU. SO THE AMENDMENT THAT'S BEFORE US IS TO USE THIS ORDINANCE TO MOVE $10,000 FROM DISTRICT 23 INDF INTO THEIR COST CENTER AND TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL AND MOVE $20,000 OF DISTRICT 19 NDF TO CIF INDF TO DO BOTH. YES. CORRECT. AND THE AMOUNT WAS 20. $20,000, A TOTAL THAT THE TOTAL ORDINANCE IS $30,000. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE CLARIFICATIONS? MISS STEINBERG IS HERE. IF ANYONE NEEDS QUESTIONS FROM HER COUNCIL MANAGER. WE'VE HEARD THE AMENDMENT WE NEVER ACTUALLY HEARD ON THE ORIGINAL MOTION. WE ARE STILL GOING TO COME BACK TO THAT, I ASSUME. WELL, IF WE AMEND, SURE. WHEN WE MAKE SURE THAT THAT DOESN'T GET LOST IN THE SHUFFLE, WE WILL AMEND IT. AND THEN THE TOTAL ONE WILL BE BEFORE US. SO WE DO HAVE A FIRST AND A SECOND FOR THE AMENDMENT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS. MOTION. THAT IT IS STILL COMING FROM THAT SAME AUDIENCE. WE'RE STILL IN THE AUDIENCE REPORT BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM BETH. MISS STEINBERG, THERE IS A QUESTION ABOUT THE SOURCE OF THESE FUNDS. ACCORDING TO THE ORDINANCE TITLE, IT IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 100, SERIES 2024 RELATING TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 2025 OPERATING BUDGET. THE QUESTION IS, WILL THE MONEY THAT COUNCILMAN PIAGENTINI IS AMENDING IS THAT COMING FROM THE SAME SOURCE? NO, IT'S COMING FROM HIS. THIS IS BETH STEINBERG. IT'S COMING FROM HIS INDIA FUND INTO HIS SCI FUND DISTRICT 19. SO THE TITLE WOULD ALSO NEED TO BE CHANGED TO REFLECT THAT. SURE. BUT YEAH. SO SORRY. YEAH. COUNCILMAN. BETH, THE QUESTION ISN'T RELATED TO IT'S THE TITLE REFERENCES THE UNDERLYING BUDGET. RIGHT. AND SO AND IT'S THE SAME. THANK YOU. THAT WAS YEAH THAT WAS THE QUESTION. IT'S STILL ORDINANCE NUMBER 100 SERIES 2024. [00:55:04] ABSOLUTELY. THEN YEAH THAT'S THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION. BUT I WILL SAY TO CLARIFY, I SHOULD ADD TO MY MOTION THAT I'M BOTH ADVOCATING TO MOTION FOR THAT BEING SUBSTANTIVELY ADDED TO IT. BUT ALSO THE TITLE WILL HAVE TO CHANGE. SO IT'S REFLECTING BOTH MOVEMENTS. YEAH. OKAY. THANKS. SO THE AMENDMENT IS BEFORE US. ANY FURTHER CONVERSATION ON THE AMENDMENT. ALL RIGHT. THE AMENDMENT CALLS FOR A VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? GREAT. NOW WE HAVE BEFORE US THE AMENDED RESOLUTION. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE AMENDED RESOLUTION? COUNCILMAN LINENGER COUNCIL. I JUST WANTED TO COUNCILMAN HUDSON, TO HAVE THE ORIGINAL MOTIVATION THAT DIDN'T COME BEFORE US. HE JUST THREW IT OVER TO COUNCILMAN PIAGENTINI FOR THE AMENDMENT. YEAH. SO ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT COUNCILMAN HUDSON'S ORIGINAL, OR DID YOU WANT TO SHARE ANYTHING TO SATISFY THE CURIOSITY IN THE ROOM? I'LL EXPLAIN. THE PURPOSE OF THE $10,000 IS TO COVER SOME OFFICE EXPENSES, SOME PRINTING, SOME. I'M GOING TO GET A FLAG FOR MY OFFICE, SOME PRO SERVICES, SOME PR SERVICES. BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. OTHERS SEEING NONE. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE CALLING FOR A ROLL CALL. VOTE. MADAM CHAIR, PLEASE OPEN THE VOTING. COUNCILMAN PIERCE. RIGHT. YES. COUNCILMAN. KRAMER. COUNCILWOMAN MCCRANIE. YES. CHAIR. KRAMER, YOU HAVE NINE YES VOTES. OKAY. I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED ON THE PREVIOUS ORDINANCE. ORDINANCE ONE 2625, PASSED UNANIMOUSLY, AND THEREFORE, IT WILL GO ON CONSENT. THIS ITEM HAD AN AMENDMENT, AND THEREFORE WE'LL GO TO OLD BUSINESS. IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMITTEE. SEEING NONE, WE ARE ADJOURNED. WITHOUT OBJECTION, WE [Adjournment Note: Agendas are followed at the discretion of the Chair. While an item may be listed, it does not mean all items will be heard and/or acted upon by the Committee.] ARE ADJOURNED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.