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PETROL TV WILL GET STARTED IN 30S.WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. THIS IS THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE LOUISVILLE METRO GOVERNMENT PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE. THIS MEETING IS BEING HELD PURSUANT TO KRS 61.826 AND COUNCIL RULE FIVE A. WE'RE JOINED IN CHAMBERS BY VICE CHAIR SHAMIKA PARISH. RIGHT.
COUNCILMAN. BENSON. COUNCILMAN. BRATCHER. COUNCILWOMAN PURVIS. COUNCILMAN. COUNCILMAN. REED.
COUNCILMAN. COUNCILWOMAN. COUNCILWOMAN. BASS. COUNCILMAN. HERNDON. COUNCILMAN. COUNCILMAN.
JOSEPH. IT'S ALMOST A FULL HOUSE. I MISS ANYBODY. AND VIRTUALLY. WE'RE JOINED BY COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL. I'M GOING TO TAKE THE AGENDA FROM THE BOTTOM UP AND CLEAR OUT THE MINOR RESOLUTION ITEM THAT WE HAVE SO THAT WE CAN DEVOTE THE REST OF OUR TIME TO THE LEADERSHIP TOPIC. FIRST ITEM IS RESOLUTION R-06025 RESOLUTION TO RELINQUISH ON BEHALF OF LOUISVILLE, JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT AND TRANSFER OF THE TITLE, OWNERSHIP, MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION OF THE CITY STREET THERE TO THE KENTUCKY TRANSPORTATION CABINET.
THIS BEING IN COUNCILMAN LEVINGER'S DISTRICT. I'LL LET HIM SPEAK TO IT FIRST. WE NEED A MOTION IN A SECOND. OH, YOUR MOTION. MOTION, SIR. PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED. THIS BEING IN COUNCILMAN LYNCH'S DISTRICT. I'LL LET HIM SPEAK TO IT FIRST. THANK YOU. CHAIR. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY I WANTED TO JOIN YOU ALL TO DISCUSS THIS, BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN SOME CONFUSION THAT MEMBERS HAVE EXPRESSED TO ME, AND I'M SURE THE DIRECTOR IS GOING TO DO A MORE THAN ADEQUATE JOB. BUT I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR THAT FIRST OF ALL, I SUPPORT IT. BUT SECOND OF ALL,
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THIS IS RELATED TO THE TWO WAY CONVERSION OF SECOND AND THIRD STREET. AND THIS IS A NECESSARY AND IMPORTANT PART OF THAT PROJECT. AS THAT PORTION OF SECOND STREET BECOMES VESTIGIAL, AND THE UNIVERSITY WOULD LOVE TO INCREASE SOME LAND AND ACCESS AND SAFETY FOR STUDENTS, THAT MEANS THAT WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THIS PORTION HERE ON CARDINAL AS WELL. SO I'LL CEDE THE FLOOR TO THE DIRECTOR. AND I DO HAVE. GOOD AFTERNOON. I DO HAVE SOME SCHEMATICS. IF YOU COULD PULL THAT UP, IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE EASIER TO VIEW. SO WHAT YOU SEE OVERHEAD IS SECOND AND THIRD STREET, JUST NORTH OF U OF L, AND THEN RIGHT THERE AT THE SPEED ART MUSEUM. SO WHAT IS HAPPENING? ARE THERE A COUPLE PROJECTS GOING ON SIMULTANEOUSLY, WHICH IS IT'S VERY EXCITING, BUT IT DOES PRESENT SOME COMPLICATIONS. THE UNIVERSITY OF LOUISVILLE IS WORKING THROUGH AN LP PROJECT, AND PART OF THE PROJECT WILL REMOVE SECOND STREET THAT YOU SEE THERE IN YELLOW, AND SECOND AND THIRD STREET WILL BE COMBINED BETWEEN CARDINAL AND THE BOTTOM OF THE YELLOW SECTION. THE COMPLICATION THAT THIS CREATES IS THAT THE STATE LOOKS AT ROUTES AND THEY HAVE TO ENCOMPASS TWO DIRECTIONS. SO ONE ROUTE IS EITHER NORTH SOUTH OR EAST WEST. AND THEY ARE OBLIGATED TO MAINTAIN THAT CONTINUITY. SO YOU CAN SEE HERE THE ARROWS THE DOWN ARROW AND THE UP ARROW FOR SECOND AND THIRD STREET. WHAT HAS TO OCCUR FOR THE STATE TO MAINTAIN CONTINUITY SHORT TERM IS FOR THIS SECTION IN RED OF WEST CARDINAL BOULEVARD TO GO TO THE STATE. SO THIS WOULD BECOME THE STATE'S WAY OF FULFILLING THAT OBLIGATION TO MAINTAIN THE CONTINUITY OF ROUTES. SO SECOND AND THIRD STREET WOULD BECOME TWO WAY UNTIL CARDINAL WEST CARDINAL BOULEVARD WOULD BE THE CONTINUITY OF THAT ROUTE TO GET TO SECOND STREET TO GO NORTH. THE SECOND PART OF THIS IS THAT THE CITY OF LOUISVILLE ALSO HAS A PROJECT, AND THIS IS A BIGGER MAP, BUT YOU CAN SEE IN RED THAT IS THE SECTION OF SECOND STREET THAT WILL BE GOING AWAY WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF LOUISVILLE PROJECT. THE SECTION IN BLUE IS THE PORTION OF CARDINAL BOULEVARD THAT WILL BECOME STATES UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THE SECTION IN YELLOW BECOMES TWO WAY, AND THAT IS WITH AN SS FOR A TWO WAY CONVERSION OF SECOND AND THIRD STREET THAT PUBLIC WORKS STAFF IS WORKING ON NOW. SO THIS RELINQUISHMENT TO THE STATE IS FOR CARDINAL BOULEVARD. AND THEN UPON COMPLETION OF THE SECOND AND THIRD STREET PROJECT, WE WOULD ASK FOR THAT PORTION TO BE RETURNED TO THE CITY. AND I'M HAPPY TO. I KNOW THAT IS VERY IT IS MORE COMPLICATED THAN IT SHOULD BE. I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. SO IS THE CITY GETTING ANYTHING FOR THIS RELINQUISHMENT IN THE FORM OF LIKE MONEY? IS THE STATE GOING TO BUY THIS OR ARE WE JUST GIVING IT TO THEM? NO. AT THIS POINT WE ARE JUST BUYING OR WE ARE JUST GIVING THEM THIS PORTION OF CARDINAL. THAT'S WHAT I WAS FOR THE CONTINUITY OF THE ROUTES, BECAUSE WE HAD A VERY SIMILAR PROJECT LIKE THIS IN, IN COUNCILMAN BRADSHAW'S DISTRICT, WHERE A REMNANT OF A CONSTRUCTION SITE HAD JUST KIND OF GONE OFF THE GRID, AND WE WANTED WE METRO LOUISVILLE WANTED IT IN THE STATE SAID WE COULD HAVE IT IF WE BOUGHT IT.SO I'M, I'M I'M A LITTLE CHAPPED BY THAT, I GUESS, IN THAT WE SHOULD BE GETTING SOMETHING FOR THIS. AND I'M NOT GOING TO PUSH THE ISSUE, BUT I WOULD HAVE I WOULD LIKE THE QUESTION TO AT LEAST BE CONSIDERED. SO IN THIS SITUATION, AND I BELIEVE THE LEGISLATION IN FRONT OF YOU IS WRITTEN WITH THE HELP OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY SO THAT THIS PORTION WOULD COME BACK TO US.
SO THE INTENT IS THAT THIS IS A TEMPORARY RELINQUISHMENT, SO THE STATE CAN FULFILL THAT ROUTE OBLIGATION UNTIL SUCH TIME AS OUR PROJECT IS FINISHED. OKAY. SO WE DO GET IT BACK THAT YES, THAT'S THE COMPLICATION IS THE U OF L PROJECT IS RUNNING AHEAD OF OUR PROJECT, AND THE U OF L PROJECT IS NOW STALLED UNTIL THIS CAN BE CONFIRMED. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THIS? I DON'T SEE ANYBODY. ARE YOU. I'M IN THE QUEUE, COUNCILWOMAN PURVIS. I THOUGHT I WAS. I'M SORRY. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. JUST WANTED TO KNOW THIS IS GOING TO BE A TWO WAY CONVERSION ON SECOND AND THIRD STREET. CORRECT? RUNNING BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH. AND WILL IT
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START AT. AT WHAT INTERSECTIONS WILL IT START AND END? SO THE UNIVERSITY OF LOUISVILLE PROJECT STARTS AT APPROXIMATELY THE ENTRANCE ON THIRD STREET FOR THE SPEED ART MUSEUM. AND THEN IT WOULD CONTINUE TO CARDINAL BOULEVARD. SO COMBINING SECOND AND THIRD STREET IN THAT SECTION, THAT SECTION OF SECOND STREET WOULD THEN GO TO COUNCILMAN LEININGER'S POINT WOULD GO TO U OF L, WHICH IS A PLACE WHERE THEY DO HAVE SOME COMPLICATED PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS, SO WOULD PROVIDE SOME SAFETY AND ENHANCEMENTS IN THAT WAY. OUR PROJECT WOULD GO FROM CARDINAL TO BROADWAY FOR SECOND AND THIRD STREET. SO WILL THIS PROVIDE SOME TRAFFIC CALMING IN THOSE AREAS? YES. SO TWO WAY CONVERSION IS A PROVEN SAFETY COUNTERMEASURE. SO IT IS ANTICIPATED THAT YES, THERE WOULD BE A BENEFIT SAFETY WISE AS FAR AS SLOWING SPEEDS AND ADDING SAFETY FOR PEDESTRIANS. HOW WILL HOW WILL THIS BENEFIT THE SCHOOLS IN THE AREA. LIKE YOU HAVE MANUAL AND NO MIDDLE. HOW WOULD THIS AFFECT THE KIDS BEING DROPPED OFF AND PICKED UP AT THOSE THOSE SCHOOLS? SO OUR PROJECT IS JUST STARTING DESIGN. WE ANTICIPATE THAT THE SS FOR A LOUISVILLE METRO PROJECT WILL BE THROUGH DESIGN APPROXIMATELY THE END OF SUMMER. THOSE ARE TWO PRIMARY STAKEHOLDER GROUPS WE'RE WORKING WITH TO MAKE SURE THAT NOTHING WE DO WOULD INTERFERE WITH THEIR PLANS. SO WE'RE WORKING IN A VERY DETAILED WAY WITH JK. OKAY. THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANYONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE. IS THERE? IS THERE ANYONE IN THE QUEUE? SOMETIMES I DON'T SEE THEM. HERE IN THE QUEUE. I JUST DID. COUNCILMAN HERNDON, QUICK QUESTION. AND YOU PROBABLY AREN'T SURPRISED THAT THE MADAM DIRECTOR, AS YOU'RE MOVING UP THIRD STREET TWO WAY AND COULD, COULD WE SKIP AHEAD UP TO THE TUNNEL AND KNOCK, KNOCK THOSE TWO BLOCKS OUT AS WELL? SORRY, SORRY I HAD TO BRING IT UP, BUT I HAD THE CHANCE, SO I JUST WE CAN CERTAINLY SEE WHERE THAT FALLS ON A MAP. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE? NO, NO. WE'RE GOOD. ALRIGHT. THIS REQUIRES ROLL CALL. VOTE. NO VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. JUST BE PUT ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THE NEXT ITEM WE HAVE IS THE ONLY ITEM ON THE AGENDA. UNLESS I READ IT. ITEM NUMBER ONE ID 250091. LEADERSHIP CHANGES WITHIN PUBLIC WORKS AND EXPECTATIONS MOVING FORWARD. WE HAVE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR JENNIFER KERN TO SPEAK TO THIS. EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. YES. I'M ALSO JOINED BY ASSISTANT DIRECTOR JULIE TOLER AND THEN SHANNON LOGAN WITH SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT. SO WE WILL GET STARTED. GENERALLY JUST AN OVERVIEW VERY, VERY BROADLY OF PUBLIC WORKS. WE ARE 528 POSITIONS. THAT IS WITH THE NEW DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION THAT WILL COME ONLINE STARTING JULY 1ST. WE ARE THE SECOND LARGEST DEPARTMENT IN METRO AFTER POLICE AND BEFORE FIRE. WE HAVE 49% OF OUR POSITIONS REQUIRE A CDL, WHICH PRESENTS ITS OWN SPECIAL CHALLENGES, WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT LATER. AND THEN WE DID JUST RENEW MANY OF OUR UNION CONTRACTS. SO TEAMSTERS AND IBEW, WHICH WE DO HOPE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GAIN SOME EMPLOYEES. SO STARTING OUT WITH CHANGES IN IN LEADERSHIP AND WITH DEPARTMENTS CHANGES VERY, VERY HARD. BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN AVOID BECAUSE WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO DO THINGS THE WAY THAT WE HAVE ALWAYS DONE THEM, JUST BECAUSE WE'VE ALWAYS DONE THEM THAT WAY, BECAUSE IT IS NOT WORKING. IT'S THERE ARE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT MODERNIZED, WE HAVE NOT THOUGHT ABOUT OUR PROCESSES. WE HAVE RUN THINGS IN A ONE OFF KIND OF WAY. INSTEAD OF RUNNING THINGS LIKE A PROGRAM. AND THOSE ARE CHANGES THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE. THERE ARE SOME HARD TRUTHS IN THAT, AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S NO BLAME FOR ANYBODY. THAT'S I TELL MY STAFF VERY OPENLY, IT'S NOT ABOUT BLAME. IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU DID SOMETHING WRONG. IT'S ABOUT WE CAN DO SOMETHING BETTER, AND WE'RE SMART ENOUGH TO DO THIS BETTER, AND WE'RE SMART ENOUGH TO MAKE OUR JOBS EASIER AND BE ABLE TO GET MORE DONE. SO THAT IS AS FAR AS CHANGES WITHIN WITHIN THE DOT WE CAN RUN THROUGH THE POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE. I WILL TELL YOU THAT OVERALL, I THINK THAT THERE IS A[00:20:01]
RENEWED ENERGY AND A MOMENTUM. I THINK YOU CAN SEE JUST IN THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT WE ARE STARTING, THE WAY THAT STAFF APPROACH THINGS, THE COLLABORATIVE EFFORT THAT WE SEE WITHIN PUBLIC WORKS GENERALLY, PEOPLE WORKING TOGETHER AND MOVING TOWARDS MORE OF A MATRIX MANAGEMENT AND REALLY LEVERAGING ALL OF THE EXPERTISE THAT WE HAVE ON HAND INSTEAD OF BEING A SILOED ORGANIZATION. THE DOT, WE'LL START WITH THE DOT POSITIONS. SEVERAL PEOPLE HERE JOINING TODAY ARE NEW FACES THAT YOU HAVEN'T MET YET THAT ARE PART OF THE DOT RECOMMENDATIONS.AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST TAKEAWAYS WAS ABOUT SUPPORTING ROLES, WHICH DIDN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE TO ME UNTIL WE STARTED HIRING THOSE PEOPLE WHEN WE GOT THE DOT RECOMMENDATIONS, IT WASN'T ABOUT HAVING MORE ENGINEERS, IT WAS ABOUT SUPPORTING PEOPLE DOING THE WORK. SO YOU CAN SEE ON THIS LIST OF POSITIONS, IN A LOT OF T WE'RE USING THE WRONG THINGS. I CAN'T EXPECT AN ENGINEER TO BE A GREAT ENGINEER, BUT ALSO BE AN EXCEPTIONAL GRANT MANAGER, OR TO KNOW HOW TO USE TECHNOLOGY. I THINK THAT SUPPORTING, SUPPORTING THAT FIELD IN A DIFFERENT WAY IS REALLY THE KEY TO UNLOCKING ALL THE POTENTIAL. SO WE'LL RUN DOWN THE LIST OF POSITIONS. THIS MORNING WE HAD THE DIRECTOR OF DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION ANNOUNCEMENT, BILL BELL WILL BE JOINING US.
HE'S CURRENTLY THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE STATE OF KENTUCKY OFFICE OF HIGHWAY SAFETY. HE HAS A LOT OF VERY EXCITING IDEAS, A LOT OF WAYS THAT WE COULD COLLABORATE, APPROACH PROJECTS, AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO HAVE HIM ON BOARD. HE WILL START ON JUNE 23RD. THE OTHER RECOMMENDED CHANGE WITH DOT IS AN EXECUTIVE ADMINISTRATOR OF TRANSPORTATION PROGRAMING. HISTORICALLY, THE JOB DUTIES HERE WERE SANDWICHED WITH JUST A TRANSPORTATION SUPERVISOR. SO SPLITTING OUT THOSE AGAIN, SPLITTING OUT THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES BECAUSE WE WERE ASKING PEOPLE TO DO WAY, WAY TOO MUCH. SO WE HAD SOMEBODY WHO WAS EFFECTIVELY DOING THE JOB OF A COUPLE PEOPLE, AND THERE'S REALLY NO WAY TO GET FOCUSED WHEN YOU DO THAT. WE'VE HAD THREE PROJECT MANAGEMENT POSITIONS FILLED, SO FOCUSING ON MAJOR PROJECTS, LOOP PROJECTS AND LOCAL PROJECTS. POLICY ANALYST, UTILITY COORDINATOR AND THE UTILITY COORDINATOR POSITION IS ONE THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR BACKLOG OF CAPITAL PROJECTS, ONE THINGS THAT THAT STANDS OUT IS THAT WE WEREN'T COORDINATING EARLY ENOUGH OR OFTEN ENOUGH WITH OUR UTILITIES. SO HAVING SOMEONE WHO COULD COME IN BE A DIRECT LIAISON AND BE REALLY MORE DIALED IN WITH OUR UTILITIES WITH RESPECT TO HOW WHAT ARE OUR PRIORITIES? SO INSTEAD OF EVERY PERSON WORKING ON A PROJECT FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS WITH PUBLIC WORKS IS CALLING THE SAME PEOPLE AT LGA ASKING FOR SOMETHING, WE HAVE ONE VOICE THAT CAN SAY WE HAVE NEEDS. THESE ARE OUR PRIORITIES BECAUSE AS WE KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE REACH OUT TO OUR PARTNER AGENCIES, WATER COMPANY, LGA, IT'S NOT JUST OUR PRIORITIES. THEY THEN HAVE TO PRIORITIZE. SO HELPING THEM HELP US GET DONE WITH OUR PROJECTS FASTER. SO FOR ME, THAT'S A VERY EXCITING EDGE THAT THIS BRINGS. TECHNOLOGY ADMINISTRATOR AND I THINK I'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, THAT TECHNOLOGY ADMINISTRATOR POSITION IS ONE THAT MOVING FORWARD TO BE COMPETITIVE FOR GRANTS THAT WE MIGHT GO AFTER COULD START TO BE A REQUIREMENT WITHIN YOUR ORGANIZATION AND NOT JUST THE SUPPORT THAT WE GET FROM METRO TECHNOLOGY. ONE OF THE GAPS THAT WE HAVE, METRO TECHNOLOGY IS AMAZING TO WORK WITH, BUT THERE IS DEFINITELY A VOCABULARY AND AN EXPERTISE GAP. SO WE TALK ABOUT THINGS AND WE NEED SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WHO SPEAKS OUR LANGUAGE, WHO CAN TRANSLATE TO TECHNOLOGY SO THAT WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS MORE EFFECTIVELY. THE OTHER EXCITING ANNOUNCEMENT, WE DO HAVE AN ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING PROGRAMING THAT WILL BE STARTING ON JUNE 9TH. SO WHILE WE WANTED THE DOT DIRECTOR ANNOUNCEMENT TO COME OUT, WE WILL HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. AS FAR AS THAT POSITION, WE HAVE RECEIVED SOME VERY QUALIFIED CANDIDATES, AND WE HAVE INTERVIEWS LINED UP IN THE NEXT WEEK AND A HALF FOR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR ROADS AND OPERATIONS. ANOTHER DOT POSITION I TOUCHED ON EARLIER RESEARCH AND GRANT OFFICER. SO HAVING SOMEONE DIRECTLY, DIRECTLY IN OUR DEPARTMENT WHO CAN HELP US SPECIFICALLY WITH PROJECT AND GRANT NEEDS, WHO CAN HELP US DO GRANT WRITING, BECAUSE AS I TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY, WE HAD
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A TRANSPORTATION SUPERVISOR WHO HAD TO MANAGE OUR BUDGET, MANAGE A TEAM OF TRANSPORTATION PLANNERS, AND THEN ALSO WRITE GRANTS WHENEVER WE NEEDED, AND THAT THAT'S TOO MUCH FOR ONE PERSON TO DO EFFECTIVELY. WE WILL BE THE EIGHT POSITIONS THAT ARE MOVING OVER FROM ADVANCED PLANNING AND FROM PLANNING AND DESIGN SERVICES TO JOIN THE DOT. THOSE ARE POSITIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY FILLED. SO THAT'S VERY EXCITING. AND WE ARE ALREADY WORKING DIRECTLY WITH ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE. AND THEN THE OTHER THING THAT WE'RE DOING WITH DOT IS ASSESSING JOB DESCRIPTIONS TO ENSURE THAT IT'S THE RIGHT JOB DESCRIPTION. SO WE TALK A LOT ABOUT PEOPLE. PEOPLE ASK US, WOULD IT BE HELPFUL TO HAVE MORE CONTRACTORS. AND I THINK STEP ONE OF THAT IS HAVING BETTER CONTRACTOR MANAGEMENT AND BUILDING IN SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE A SUPERVISOR POSITION, IS IT BEST THAT THAT'S AN ENGINEER? IT COULD BE. BUT IT WOULD BE GREAT IF THEY HAD A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT EXPERIENCE. THAT WILL HELP US GAIN THAT KNOWLEDGE BASE AROUND HOLDING OUR CONTRACTORS BETTER ACCOUNTABLE. WHAT ARE BEST PRACTICES? HOW DO WE STREAMLINE THOSE? SO LOOKING AT A COUPLE POSITIONS THAT BEFORE WE'RE OPEN TO ENGINEERS AND PLANNERS, BUT COULD SHOULD THOSE POTENTIALLY BE REALLY RECRUITING AND LOOKING FOR PEOPLE WITH MORE OF THAT CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT BACKGROUND? ARE THERE OTHER OR ARE THERE OTHER SPECIALTIES THAT WE COULD BE TARGETING FOR EMPLOYEES, OR ARE WE JUST LIMITING OURSELVES BECAUSE IT'S THE JOB TITLES, THE JOBS TITLE? NOT QUITE RIGHT? THE DESCRIPTION DOESN'T QUITE GET THE CANDIDATES THAT YOU WANT, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL BE WORKING ON. AND THEN I TOUCHED JUST WHILE WE'RE HERE. I TOUCHED ON BRIEFLY AT THE BUDGET HEARING THE LOOP FOCUS. WE WILL BE MEETING, AND I DO HAVE SOME UPDATES SPECIFIC TO THE LOOP. AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO A MORE A MORE DETAILED UPDATE ON LATER. BUT HAVING A PROJECT MANAGER DIRECTLY RELATED TO THAT LOOP PROJECT FOCUS, WE WILL BE DOING SOME THINK GROUPS WITH OUR PARTNERS AT PARK. AS FAR AS HOW TO MOVE, HOW DO WE BEST MOVE FORWARD WITH LOUISVILLE LOOP? THE WAY THAT WE'VE BEEN BUILDING THE LOOP IS VERY SLOW, AND WE DO HAVE SOME GRANT COMMITMENTS THAT WE INTEND TO FULFILL. BUT AFTER THAT, WHAT SHOULD WE DO? MAYBE THERE'S A BETTER WAY. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WILL DEFINITELY BE WORKING ON. EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OH YES, JUST A HOUSEKEEPING MEASURE. YOU'RE ON SLIDE FOUR OF 14 AND THERE ARE FOUR MINUTES LEFT IN YOUR PRESENTATION. OKAY. WELL, WE WILL WE WILL HURRY THROUGH THEM WITHIN OUR PRESENTATION THAT YOU HAVE HERE. WE DO HAVE TURNOVER BY FISCAL YEAR. YOU CAN SEE WE DID EXPERIENCE A JUMP DURING COVID, WHICH A LOT OF PLACES DID. ALSO INCLUDED IS A TURNOVER RATE BY REASON AND THEN BREAKDOWN BY POSITION. THE POSITIONS WITH THE HIGHEST TURNOVER RATE ARE ACTUALLY OUR ROADS EQUIPMENT OPERATORS. THOSE ARE CDL POSITIONS. AND THEN ALSO THOSE ARE SUBJECT TO OUR TEAMSTERS CONTRACT WHICH JUST RENEWED. SO WE HOPE THAT THAT WILL BE A RECRUITING TOOL FOR US. WE ALSO DO A LOT OF SAFETY AND EQUIPMENT TRAINING. A LOT OF THE JOBS THAT WE HAVE ARE VERY DANGEROUS. THERE ARE SOME COMPLICATIONS WITH CDL, SO IT IS A VERY COMPLICATED PROCESS TO GET YOUR CDL LICENSE.HISTORICALLY, BECAUSE WE DID CDL TRAINING FOR FREE, PEOPLE WOULD COME HERE AND GET A JOB AND GET THEIR CDL LICENSE, AND THEN THEY WOULD LEAVE BECAUSE CDL CAN COST 8 TO $10,000 TO GET ELSEWHERE.
THAT'S THAT ISN'T A GOOD DEAL FOR US. SO WITH THE HELP OF HR, WE DID INSTITUTE A PROMISSORY NOTE PROCEDURE. SO IF YOU COME IN AND YOU GET YOUR CDL TRAINING AND YOU LEAVE WITHIN A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME, YOU HAVE TO PAY US BACK BECAUSE WE HAVE REAL DOLLARS IN THAT. THE OTHER THING, AND WE ONLY HAVE WHAT IS OUR TIMEOUT? WE HAVE A SOLID WASTE LEADERSHIP PROGRAM AND WE HAVE SHANNON LOGAN IS HERE WITH SOLID WASTE IF WE WANT TO GO. I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE TIME FOR HIM TO DO A DEEP DIVE, BUT IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT, OKAY, WE'LL WE'LL WRAP UP IT. IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS LATER ABOUT THE SOLID WASTE LEADERSHIP PROGRAM THAT'S IMPLEMENTED OVER THERE. AGAIN, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT IT'S ABOUT HAVING THAT PIPELINE OF PEOPLE, BUT ALSO ABOUT GETTING FEEDBACK AND STARTING TO CREATE A DEPARTMENT WHERE PEOPLE CAN CAN GIVE FEEDBACK, CAN GIVE REAL TIME FEEDBACK IN A SAFE WAY ABOUT THINGS THEY THINK MIGHT WORK BETTER. ELECTRICAL MAINTENANCE, APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS. SO THIS IS SOMETHING. IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS, JULIE TOLAR IS HERE RKING TO GET ELECTRICAL MAINTENANCE APPRENTICES IN. SO GETTING PEOPLE THAT ARE IN SCHOOL THAT WANT TO GET EXPERIENCE WITH US AND POTENTIALLY STAY WITH US ONCE THEY BECOME LICENSED. WE ALSO HAVE HIGH SCHOOL CO-OPS IN THE
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HEAVY, HEAVY EQUIPMENT TRACK THAT THEY HAVE. SO WE'VE GOT A COUPLE CO-OPS THAT COME OVER WITH OUR ROADS DISTRICT. IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT PROGRAM, AND THEN WE RECRUIT A LOT. SO HR IS CONSTANTLY AT JOB FAIRS. WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT DIFFERENT WAYS, LIKE I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, TO, YOU KNOW, TARGET AUDIENCES. WHO SHOULD WE BE GOING AFTER. SO FOR POSITIONS LIKE ENGINEERS OR OTHER OTHER LICENSED PROFESSIONAL POSITIONS, RECRUITING DIRECTLY WITH THOSE TYPE OF ENTITIES, WHETHER IT'S ASC, KSP. THOSE TARGETED RECRUITING EFFORTS. AND THEN WE HAVE AND WE DO HAVE A NEW COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER OR COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR WHO'S UNFORTUNATELY OUT TODAY, BUT WE HAVE STARTED UPDATING ALL OF OUR SOCIAL MEDIA LINKEDIN ACCOUNTS AND BEING MUCH MORE VISIBLE IN THAT WAY AS FAR AS RECRUITING DIGITALLY AND IN OTHER NEWSLETTER METHODS. AND WITH THAT, QUESTIONS. PERFECT. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN REED. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. AND I'M NOT A MEMBER OF THIS COMMITTEE. SO I JUST WANT TO BE UPFRONT AND SAY THAT THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO COME AND ASK A FEW QUESTIONS. SO JUST A FEW QUESTIONS. NUMBER ONE, WHAT IS THE CHAIN OF COMMAND HERE? ARE YOU OVER THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION? YEAH. SO I WANTED I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS OKAY TO RELEASE THE ORG CHART. BUT I KNOW I TALKED TO COUNCILMAN HUDSON EARLIER TODAY. I THINK THE BEST THING FOR CLARITY IS TO GET AN ORG CHART DELIVERED. SO I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS WITHIN PUBLIC WORKS, OUR SOLID WASTE SERVICES IN THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. THERE ARE SEVERAL POSITIONS THAT ARE GENERAL SERVICES THAT SUPPORT THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT. SO HR POLICY, PERFORMANCE, TECHNOLOGY, THOSE TYPES OF POSITIONS DIRECTLY REPORT TO ME. BUT THE DIRECTOR FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION WOULD REPORT TO ME. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I RECOGNIZE THE DIFFICULT JOB YOU GUYS HAVE. AND YOU YOU CATCH A LOT OF GUFF SOMETIMES. AND SOMETIMES WE PROBABLY DON'T THROW ACCOLADES AWAY AS MUCH AS WE SHOULD. MY QUESTION IS, HOW IS THIS NEW DEPARTMENT GOING TO HELP ME WITH OR HELP MY DISTRICT WITH PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN FUNDED THAT I CANNOT GET COMPLETED? SO THAT THAT'S KIND OF CORE TO WHERE THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION STARTED. SO IT IS A LACK OF EFFICIENCY THAT HAS EXISTED AND HAS HAS BEEN THAT WAY FOR YEARS WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS. THINGS ARE VERY SILOED. WE HAVE A DEPARTMENT WHERE PEOPLE SURROUNDED BY EXCEPTIONAL PEOPLE, BUT FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEY WEREN'T EMPOWERED TO ASK FOR HELP OR TO SAY, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THIS, OR THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH A PROJECT AND WE NEED TO SORT IT OUT RIGHT NOW, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS ARE THINGS THAT I NEED TO KNOW ABOUT RIGHT AWAY. AND AGAIN, MOST THINGS ARE NOBODY'S FAULT. THESE ARE VERY, VERY SMART PEOPLE WE WORK WITH. IF SOMETHING COMES UP, THEY DIDN'T THINK ABOUT IT. IT'S BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING NOBODY WOULD HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT. OR YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU FIND A BIG HOLE ON A PROJECT WHEN YOU GO OUT THERE AND YOU START CONSTRUCTION. IT IS ABOUT JUST LOOKING AT HOW WE GO ABOUT PROJECTS DIFFERENTLY. I TALKED EARLIER ABOUT HOW DO WE SUPPORT PEOPLE. WE HAD BEEN PUTTING JUST ENGINEERS ON A PROJECT AND SAYING, GO RUN A CAPITAL PROJECT FOR, YOU KNOW, A $10 MILLION PROJECT, WHICH IS SO MANY THINGS YOU HAVE TO KNOW HOW TO NAVIGATE. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE STATE. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR UTILITIES. THEN YOU'VE GOT TO PUT IT OUT TO BID. YOU'VE GOT TO WORK WITH YOUR CONTRACTOR. YOU'VE GOT TO WORK WITH YOUR CONSTRUCTION INSPECTOR. ALL OF THOSE. THAT IS A LOT OF TASKS. THAT'S TOO MANY TASKS FOR ONE PERSON TO BE EXPECTED TO DO ON THEIR OWN. SO THAT'S THE APPROACH THAT WE HAVE BEEN TAKING IS TO LINE UP OUR EXPERTS AND USE MATRIX MANAGEMENT LOOP PEOPLE IN WHOEEDS T BE INFORMED, WHOS IN CHARGE OF THINGS, AND CREATING THAT RESPONSIBILITY MATXRO MAKI SURTH RIGHTEO ARE EDIE LP WHEN YOU NEED IT. ALSO, THE HER THING IS FINDING OVERLAP WITHIN PROJECTS. SO WHEN WE GO THROUGH WHEN I FIRST STARTED, WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE AN EXCEL SHEET THAT HAD A LIST OF ALL OF OUR PROJECTS IN IT. SO A LOT OF TIMES JUST ORGANIZATION. SO NOW WE'RE MOVING TO LOOKING AT WHETHER IT IS SMARTSHEETS OR ANOTHER PROJECT MANAGEMENT SOLUTION. WE'RE MANAGING ALL OF OUR PROJECTS OUT OF EXCEL. THAT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE AT THE SCOPE THAT WE'RE DOING PROJECTS RIGHT NOW. YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT HAVE WORKE WHEN WE HAD A COUPLE[00:35:02]
MILLION DOLLARS IN PROJECTS, BUT THAT'S JUST NOT WHERE WE ARE ANYMORE. SO I WOULD SAY IMPROVEMENTS ACROSS THE BOARD. THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE'VE LEARNED IS COMMUNICATION, COMMUNICATING WITH PEOPLE, LETTING OTHER PEOPLE KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH YOUR PROJECT, WHAT HELP YOU NEED, WHERE THEY OVERLAP, LEANING ON OTHER MEMBERS OF OUR TEAM MORE. AND THEN ALSO THE TECHNOLOGY. SO TRACKING AUTOMATING EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN, MAKING THINGS RECURRING. AND THEN ALSO THE BIGGEST RECOMMENDATION FROM THE DOT WAS TO MOVE TO A PROJECT SPONSORED MODEL, WHICH THE IDEA IS THAT YOU DO HAVE PROJECT MANAGERS AND THEY MOVE THE PROJECT. THEY MOVE WITH THE PROJECT ACROSS THE PHASES. SO A GRANT APPLIED FOR A PROJECT. IT'S YOUR PROJECT, IT GOES TO PLANNING. IT'S STILL YOUR PROJECT. IT GOES. AND WHILE THAT PROJECT MANAGER MAY BE WORKING WITH PLANNERS OR ENGINEERS OR CONSTRUCTION FIELD TEAMS, THEY ARE WITH IT THE WHOLE WAY. SO HISTORICALLY ON ON CAPITAL PROJECTS, WE WOULD START DOWN A ROAD AND WE'D PLAN IT AND THEN IT WOULD GO TO ENGINEERING AND THEN WE WOULD WE WOULD REPLAN IT. WE WOULD BE REDOING THINGS THE WHOLE WAY BECAUSE NOBODY HAD THAT CONTINUITY WITHIN THE PROJECT. WE ALSO WEREN'T DOCUMENTING ANYTHING IF WE DID HAVE IT. SO IT'S CONTINUITY, COMMUNICATION, MODERNIZING GENERALLY. THAT IS HOW THAT IS THE GENERAL WORK APPROACH TO SPEEDING UP PROJECTS. THANK YOU. YEAH. SO I RESPECT THE POSITION YOU'RE IN.IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOU'VE GOT TO CHANGE THE TIRE CHANGE. CHANGE THE FLAT TIRE ON THE CAR. BUT YOU DON'T GET THE LUXURY OF STOPPING THE CAR. YOU GOT TO DO IT WHILE IT'S ROLLING DOWN THE ROAD. ALL OF THESE PLANS THAT YOU'VE YOU'VE OUTLINED HERE TODAY ARE GREAT FOR THE FUTURE STATE OF YOUR ORGANIZATION. BUT THE FEEDBACK I'M GETTING FROM MULTIPLE DIRECTIONS IS THAT THE CURRENT STATE NEEDS TO BE FIXED, ESPECIALLY TO YOUR POINT THE COMMUNICATION. WHEN A COUNCIL OFFICE CALLS AND CAN'T GET A RESPONSE BACK FOR OVER A WEEK, THAT'S A PROBLEM. SO THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD ASK THAT YOU WORK ON. AND WE'RE HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT HOW TO STREAMLINE THOSE THINGS. I KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE INFORMATION AROUND WHO TO TALK TO FOR WHAT PARTICULAR TYPES OF QUESTIONS. IF THERE ARE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU THINK, TYPES OF QUESTIONS THAT AREN'T BEING ANSWERED IN QUICKLY ENOUGH, WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT WHAT IS GOING ON. AND ARE WE ANSWERING THAT BEST? THE OTHER THING IS ON TRYING TO COME UP WITH A WAY TO TRACK THINGS. SOMETIMES I GET AN EMAIL I FORWARD IT ON. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED A RESPONSE, I FORWARD IT TO THE CORRECT STAFF. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE RESPONDED. SO I THINK EMAILS MAYBE. I KNOW FOR ME NOT THE BEST WAY TO TRACK THINGS AND WE CAN CERTAINLY FIND A WAY TO DO IT BETTER. WELL, I'VE GOT THIS. THE THIS SHEET THAT YOU GAVE US WITH THE NAMES OF EACH, EACH FUNCTION. AND YOU CALL THESE PEOPLE FOR THESE KINDS OF THINGS. AND I UNDERSTAND EVERYONE'S MOST IMPORTANT CALL IS THEIR CALL. RIGHT. BUT I WOULD TRY TO STRIP THAT OFF AND SAY THE MOST IMPORTANT CALLS ARE SAFETY CALLS, WHERE THERE'S AN IMMEDIATE NEED OUT IN THE METRO RIGHT NOW, THAT WE NEED A PUBLIC WORKS RESPONSE ISSUE AND NOT GEA RESPONSE BACK OVER A WEEK LATER IS UNACCEPTABLE. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT I WOULD JUST ASK THAT THAT WE ALL WORK ON TOGETHER. NEXT IN THE QUEUE IS COUNCILWOMAN PURVIS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. MISS KAREN, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. I WANT TO GO BACK TO YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT CONTRACTORS, AND I RESPECT THE FACT THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE APPROPRIATE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AND SO FORTH. BUT WHEN WE HAVE ONLY A SMALL AMOUNT OF CONTRACTORS, IT AFFECTS OUR DISTRICTS. IT MAKES US LOOK INEFFECTIVE. IT MAKES US LOOK KIND OF CRAZY TO SAY THAT WE ONLY HAVE ONE CONTRACTOR FOR THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER. I REMEMBER THEY HAD ONE CAR IN MAYBERRY. PATROL CAR. THIS IS NOT MAYBERRY AND THAT IS NOT AN EXCUSE. I DON'T WANT TO CONTINUE TO GIVE MY CONSTITUENTS WHEN THEY WAIT FOR TWO AND THREE YEARS FOR A SIDEWALK. WE ARE ALLOWING THESE COMPANIES TO MONOPOLIZE THIS ROLE. AND I THINK THAT WE WOULD GET BETTER USE OUT OF TAXPAYERS DOLLARS IF WE HAD COMPETITION AND STOP GIVING THOSE CONTRACTS TO 1 OR 2 CONTRACTORS. SO I'M ASKING THAT
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YOU ALL RETHINK THAT, SET A STREAMLINE IT, AND ONLY WORK WITH 1 OR 2 CONTRACTOR. I KNOW IT CAN BE A HASSLE, BUT LET'S WORK ON GIVING THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT AND WHAT THEY DESERVE.THANK YOU. AND I DEFINITELY AGREE. WE ARE WORKING WITH PROCUREMENT ACROSS OUR CONTRACTS. WE HAVE MULTIPLE CONTRACTS WITH DIFFERENT CONTRACTORS FOR SEEMINGLY SIMILAR TASKS. OR WE HAVE, FOR INSTANCE, THE WAY THAT OUR CONSULTING ANNUAL CONTRACTS ARE TIERED. WE HAVE CONTRACTORS ON THE BOOKS THAT WE NEVER USE, WHICH ISN'T A GOOD WAY TO BUILD A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR CONTRACTOR. BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH PROCUREMENT TO FIGURE OUT. AND IT'S A CONVERSATION I'VE HAD SINCE I THINK I WAS HERE TWO MONTHS BEFORE I HAD MY FIRST CONVERSATION WITH PROCUREMENT.
ABOUT THE WAY THAT WE'RE DOING THIS SEEMS TO NOT BE VERY EFFECTIVE. IS. VICE CHAIR PARRISH RIGHT? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I APPRECIATE SEEING THE BREAKDOWN. I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. ONE, COUNCILWOMAN PURVIS COVERED SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE SEE FOR DISTRICT THREE. OUR BIGGEST CONCERNS ARE OUR CONSTITUENT CONCERNS. AND LIKE THE CHAIR, WE GET A LOT OF CALLS ABOUT THINGS. I CAME INTO PROJECTS THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO BE WORKED ON TO COUNCIL MEMBERS AGO. AND SO IT IS A LOT OF FRUSTRATION, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, AND I REALLY WISH YOU ALL THE BEST AS YOU NAVIGATE TOWARDS A BETTER POSITION. MY QUESTION IS AROUND WHO IS THE PERSON TO TALK TO AROUND GETTING NEW CONTRACTORS WE'VE HAD? IS IT JUST PROCUREMENT OR IS THERE A IS THERE A PERSON IN YOUR DEPARTMENT THAT TOTALLY WORKS WITH CONTRACTORS? SO ANY ANYTHING THAT WE BID OUT GOES THROUGH PROCUREMENT AND THEY HAVE SOME GUIDELINES. WE I HAVE ASKED THEM AND THERE HAS TO BE A DIFFERENT STRUCTURE. WE ARE PROHIBITED FROM HAVING A POOL OF CONTRACTORS. AND THAT SEEMS TO BE WHETHER WE HAVE TO COUNCILWOMAN PURVIS'S POINT, INSTEAD OF HAVING A COUPLE DIFFERENT AREAS WHERE CONTRACTORS IN EACH AREA, MAYBE WE HAVE MORE THAN WE HAVE MORE THAN TWO SIDEWALK AREAS. YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE HAVE FIVE OR OR SOMETHING. BUT THAT SEEMS TO BE THE FRICTION IS THAT WE'RE NOT PERMITTED TO HAVE A POOL OF CONTRACTORS, BECAUSE THE RISK IS THAT YOU WOULD ONLY USE ONE CONTRACTOR FROM THE POOL OR, OR THAT TYPE OF RISK, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THEY'RE THEY ARE AWARE IS AN ISSUE THAT THEY'RE WORKING WITH US ON. AND SO WHEN YOU SAY WORK WITH PROCUREMENT, I KNOW YOU SAID YOU HAVE PROJECT MANAGERS THAT WILL STAY WITH IT AS THEY GO THROUGH, BUT IS THAT PART OF IT DIRECTED TOWARDS ONE PERSON THAT WOULD HANDLE THOSE THAT PART OF THE WORK, AS FAR AS WHEN IT COMES TO CONTRACTS, OR IS IT JUST PROCUREMENT AND THEN YOU ARE JUST SORTING OUT WHAT WHAT THEY SAY IS AVAILABLE. SO IT DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF PROJECT. AND PROCUREMENT IS VERY, VERY HELPFUL IN HELPING US PROBLEM SOLVE TO GET THE RIGHT, THE RIGHT CONTRACT OR, YOU KNOW, IS IT AN RFQ OR AN RFP OR HOW DO WE ADVERTISE AND FOR HOW LONG? AND THEY ALSO ASSIST US IN ANSWERING QUESTIONS. BUT IT'S NOT IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF WORK. SO WE HAVE SEVERAL RECURRING ANNUAL CONTRACTS FOR THINGS LIKE PAVING, ROADWAY SAFETY, SIDEWALKS. THEN WE WOULD ALSO HAVE SOME CONSULTING CONTRACTS FOR GENERAL DESIGN, AS WE HAVE DESIGN NEEDS THAT COME UP WE DON'T WANT TO BID OUT, BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE CONTRACTS FOR SPECIFIC PROJECTS. SO IF WE HAVE A LARGE FEDERAL PROJECT, WE WOULD BID THAT OUT AND GET GET A CONSULTANT THAT WAY. SO THE TYPE OF CONTRACTING DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF PROJECT OR THE RECURRENCE. LIKE IF IT'S A ONE OFF PROJECT, WE MIGHT BID IT OUT. IF IT'S A LARGE PROJECT, IF IT'S A SMALL QUICK PROJECT, MAYBE WE USE SOMEONE WHO'S ALREADY ON THE BOOKS. OKAY, MY LAST QUESTION IS THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING A LIST OF ALL THE POSITIONS THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON AND FILLING OUT OF THE NONUNION JOBS. ARE MOST OF THOSE IN MANAGERIAL POSITIONS, AND COULD YOU GIVE ME THE MEDIAN AND THE LOWEST WAGE FOR THOSE POSITIONS? WE WILL HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THE MEDIAN AND LOWEST WAGE.
BUT WE COULD WE COULD CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT. AND I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THE FIRST PART IS THAT IS THAT BASED ON THE TABLE THAT'S HERE? YEAH. BASED ON THE TABLE THAT YOU HAVE. SO BASICALLY I WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S THE HIGHEST PAID POSITION, WHAT'S THE LOWEST PAID IF YOU HAVE THAT. AND THEN IF OUT OF THE SLIDE BEFORE THEN SAYS THAT THERE ARE 156 NONUNION POSITIONS, ARE THOSE 156 POSITION MANAGERIAL POSITIONS THAT ARE NONUNION OR THERE'S SOME OTHER POSITIONS INCLUDED IN THAT. TAKE THAT. JULIE TAYLOR, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC
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WORKS. GOOD AFTERNOON. I WOULD SAY OUT OF THE LISTING PROVIDED, THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT POSITION IS PROBABLY THE LOWEST PAID, WHICH IS AROUND 40 44,000 ANNUALLY. AS FAR AS THE MANAGERIAL POSITIONS, THERE'S AN ENGINEER, SUPERVISOR, AND LET'S SEE, LABOR SUPERVISORS. AND SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT WHERE THEY RANGE FROM, I WOULD SAY 60,000 TO 75 AROUND ABOUT.ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN BECKHAM. YES. THANK YOU CHAIR. THANK YOU DIRECTOR.
THANK YOU TEAM, FOR BEING HERE. MY QUESTIONS MAY SEEM A LITTLE REDUNDANT, BUT I THINK I. I'M WORKING ON SOME PROCUREMENT STUFF THROUGH OUR OFFICE, AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING SO WE CAN WORK WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AND MY COLLEAGUES HERE TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE DO PROCUREMENT IN IN JEFFERSON COUNTY. SO MY FIRST QUESTION IS, SO WHEN YOU HAVE PROJECT MANAGERS, ARE THEY, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN I CALL I'M GOING TO USE JEFF BROWN, FOR EXAMPLE, WHO'S OBVIOUSLY NO LONGER HERE. IF I CALL JEFF BROWN TO WORK ON A JOB, IS HE MANAGING THAT JOB FROM POINT A TO Z, OR IS HE GIVING IT TO A PROJECT MANAGER? AND HE'S JUST MY POINT OF CONTACT FOR THE COUNCIL. SO PROJECT MANAGERS ARE GIVEN SPECIFIC ASSIGNMENTS. AND PART OF THE BREAKDOWN IN GETTING PROJECTS DONE IS THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE ASSIGNED SPECIFIC PROJECTS, AND THEN THEY HAVE TO DO EVERY OTHER THING THAT'S PART OF THEIR JOB. KEY TO WHAT GETS FOCUSED GETS DONE. SO KEY TO GETTING PROJECTS DONE IS HAVING PEOPLE WHO PROJECTS, IF IT HAS TO BE A FORMED PROJECT. SO LOCAL PROJECTS ARE GOING TO BE SIDEWALKS THAT ARE PROGRAMED OR PAVING PROGRAM STRUCTURES, TRACKING SPEED HUMPS. MAJOR PROJECTS ARE THE GRANT FUNDED PROJECTS. SO THINGS THAT ARE PROGRAMED IN. IF THERE WAS A NEW PROJECT THAT YOU WERE TO CALL IN, THAT'S A PROJECT THAT WE NEED TO. IT WOULD DEPEND UPON THE SCALE. IF IT WAS SOMETHING, IF IT WAS A QUICK FIX, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING THAT ROADS NEEDED TO REPAIR. BUT IF IT'S A PROJECT THAT ACTUALLY NEEDS TO BE DEVELOPED, I WOULD SAY IT PROBABLY WOULD NEED TO GO THROUGH A PLANNING GROUP TO START AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE COVERED, YOU KNOW, REACHED OUT TO, YOU KNOW, IF OTHER STAKEHOLDERS NEED TO BE INVOLVED, LIKE TRAFFIC ENGINEERING OR AN EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDER LIKE JC, IF IT'S BY A SCHOOL. SO IT WOULD JUST DEPEND UPON WHAT THE REQUEST WAS. AND I THINK SOME, AS WE FOUND WITH THE COUNCIL, DIRECTED TRAFFIC CALMING PROJECTS, SOMETIMES WHEN WE WHEN PROJECTS ARE SENT TO US, THE CONCERN IS THAT PEOPLE SPEED ON THE STREET. THAT'S THAT'S A PRETTY REGULAR CONCERN THAT WE GET. BUT THE SOLUTION ISN'T A IT'S NOT A ONE SHOT SOLUTION. SO YOU MIGHT HAVE TO TALK TO, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT INVOLVE STRIPING OR IT MIGHT INVOLVE TALKING TO THE STATE OF KENTUCKY. IF IT INTERSECTS WITH THE STATE ROAD. IT DEPENDS UPON THE LEVEL OF COMPLEXITY WITHIN THE PROBLEM. BUT THAT THAT'S PART OF IT IS HAVING HAVING A WAY TO WHEN YOU GET A PROBLEM STATEMENT FROM SOMEONE, I HAVE A PROBLEM. WE AGREE. BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO TAKE SUSTAINED FOCUS IN AN AREA AND NOT JUST FROM ONE PERSON. YOU NEED TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION ACROSS TEAMS, BECAUSE IT COULD BE THAT YOUR PROJECT OVERLAPS WITH, SAY, PAVING THAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING, OR ANOTHER PROJECT THAT SOMEBODY ELSE ALREADY HAS IN QUEUE. BUT IF WE'RE NOT TALKING TO EACH OTHER, WE'RE NOT FINDING WAYS TO LEVERAGE WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING. THANK YOU. SO IF WE'RE WORKING ON, LET'S JUST SAY BUILDING A NEW ROAD. WHO IS MANAGING THAT PROJECT FROM START A TO START B OR START FROM A TO Z. IS IT THE CONSTRUCTION CREW OR ARE WE MANAGING IT THROUGH PUBLIC WORKS? IT WOULD DEPEND UPON. WELL, WE MANAGE IT GENERALLY THROUGH PUBLIC WORKS.
SO WHO SPECIFICALLY MANAGES IT WOULD DEPEND. WE HAVE THE LOCAL PROJECTS. PROJECT MANAGER WOULD BE TRACKING IT. SO MAKING SURE THAT IT'S STAYING ON SCHEDULE, NOT ACTUALLY DOING THE WORK BUT PUSHING IT, MAKING SURE IT'S STAYING ON SCHEDULE, MAKING SURE THE RIGHT PEOPLE ARE SEEING THAT PROJECT. YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE THAT A PLANNER'S PLANNING IT. AN ENGINEER IS WORKING ON IT. WE HAVE MAYBE SOMEBODY ELSE WHO NEEDS TO MANAGE IT FOR CONSTRUCTION. IT WOULD JUST DEPEND UPON THE TYPE OF ROAD. BUT THE IDEA WOULD BE IF IT'S A PLANNED IMPROVEMENT LIKE THAT, THE PROJECT MANAGER WOULD BE TRACKING IT AND WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE THE LATEST UPDATE ON IT, BUT WOULD ALSO BE THE PERSON WHO WOULD BE HOLDING IT ACCOUNTABLE FOR MEETING DEADLINES. MR.
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CHAIR, I HAVE A COUPLE FOLLOW UPS, IF THAT'S OKAY. SO, DIRECTOR, IF JUST YOU MAY NOT KNOW THIS NUMBER, BUT FOR JUST A GENERAL IDEA OF HOW MANY PROJECTS DO WE HAVE IN QUEUE AT ANY GIVEN DAY? I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK THAT UP, BUT IT'S A MIX WE HAVE. WE HAVE VARIOUS GRANT FUNDED PROJECTS THAT ARE TYPICAL TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS, TYPICAL LOOP PROJECTS. WE HAVE THE HOST OF COUNCIL DIRECTED PROJECTS. WE HAVE PROJECTS THAT ARE EMBEDDED WITHIN OUR PAVING AND STRIPING PROGRAM. IT LET ME LET ME REPHRASE THAT. IT'S MORE THAN HUNDREDS. SO HUNDREDS A DAY OR HUNDREDS ABOUT A MONTH. SO OUR PROJECTS IT MOST PROJECTS DON'T TAKE A DAY TO COMPLETE. OKAY. SO IF WE'VE GOT LET'S JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, 100 IN A MONTH, RIGHT. HOW MANY PROJECTS CAN ONE PROJECT MANAGER YOU THINK CAN HANDLE. WOULD IT BE TEN? WELL, IT WOULD BE IT WOULD BE TRACKING. IT WOULD BE THE ORDER OF MAGNITUDE. OKAY. IF WE HAD $110 MILLION PROJECTS, NO ONE PERSON PROBABLY COULDN'T MANAGE THAT. BUT IF A PERSON WAS MANAGING A SUITE OF $2,000 MILLION PROJECTS. BUT THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER PROJECT MANAGER WHO'S MANAGING, YOU KNOW, 30 LOCAL PROJECTS THAT IT DEPENDS ON THE COMPLEXITY OF THE PROJECT. AND THAT'S WHY WE BREAK IT DOWN THAT WAY. SO HOW MANY PROJECT MANAGERS WOULD YOU SAY PUBLIC WORKS NEED TO HIRE, NEEDS TO HIRE TO MANAGE THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE IN QUEUE. SO THE RECOMMENDED NUMBER I BELIEVE WAS FIVE. WE, I BELIEVE THAT MOVING TO THE PROJECT SPONSOR MODEL IS SO CORE TO WHAT THE INTENT OF THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION MEANS THAT WE LOOKED AT SOME LONG VACANT POSITIONS AND, AND UTILIZE THOSE FOR FULL TIME PROJECT MANAGERS. SO WE HAVE THREE OF THOSE POSITIONS. THE RECOMMENDATIONS RECOMMENDED THAT SOME OF THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT POSITIONS COULD POTENTIALLY BE GRANT FUNDED. WE HAVE NOT WORKED THAT OUT YET. THAT WILL BE ONE OF THE FIRST ASSIGNMENTS FOR OUR GRANT RESEARCHER WHEN THEY COME ON BOARD. BUT FIGURING OUT HOW TO STRUCTURE SOME ADDITIONAL PROJECT MANAGERS THROUGH GRANT FUNDING IS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO. OKAY. AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION, MR. CHAIR, IF THAT'S OKAY, IS YOUR PROCUREMENT PROCESS, ARE YOUR ENGINEERS PROCURING ALL THE CONTRACTORS? IF YOU NEED TO OUTSOURCE OUTSIDE OF PUBLIC WORKS WORKERS, OR IS IT PROCUREMENT THAT IS PROCURING THE CONTRACTORS? IF YOU GIVE THEM THE SSW TO PROCURE THE CONTRACTORS, HOW IS THAT? HOW DOES THAT WORK IN YOUR DEPARTMENT? WE WORK DIRECTLY WITH PROCUREMENT TO COME UP WITH WHAT WE PUT OUT FOR BID. SO THEY DO THE PROCUREMENT PART OF IT, FOLLOW ALL THE PROCUREMENT GUIDELINES, AND THEY WORK WITH US ON THE SCOPE. SO WE GIVE THEM THE SCOPE. THEY POST IT, THEY THEY RECEIVE AND SOLICIT US FOR QUESTIONS AND HELP US RESPOND AS CONTRACTORS HAVE QUESTIONS. AND THEN THEY HELP US WITH THINGS LIKE BID OPENINGS, PROJECT KICKOFF MEETINGS, TYPES OF ACTIVITIES LIKE THAT. YOU MADE A COMMENT A FEW MOMENTS AGO TO, I THINK, TO COUNCILWOMAN WRIGHT ABOUT BEING PERMITTED ON CERTAIN CONTRACTORS THAT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO USE. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT REPHRASE THAT RIGHT OR PERMITTED ON CERTAIN. SO THE HISTORICALLY, THE WAY WE'VE WE'VE WORKED, WE HAVE AND AGAIN IT DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF PROJECT. SO WE HAVE SEVERAL ENGINEERING CONSULTING FIRMS THAT WE HAVE ON CONTRACT. BUT WE BID THROUGH A TERTIARY BID. SO WE HAVE IT'S YOU KNOW FIRST, SECOND, THIRD. SO ESSENTIALLY YOU HAVE TO USE THE FIRST FOR EVERYTHING UNLESS THEY PASS ON THE WORK. AND THEN YOU CAN USE THE SECOND, AND THEN THE THIRD NEVER GETS ANY WORK, WHICH SEEMS MISALIGNED TO ME. SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE WORKING THROUGH PROCUREMENTS HELPING US UNDERSTAND. COULD WE MOVE TO MY FRUSTRATION IS YOU DON'T ALWAYS NEED A NATIONAL, HUGE FIRM TO DO A JOB. MAYBE A SMALL FIRM WOULD WOULD BE BETTER SUITED FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND HAVING THE ABILITY TO HAVE MAYBE AN RFQ PROCESS WHERE YOU COULD HAVE SEVERAL FIRMS PRE PRE-APPROVED, BUT THEY COULD OFFER BIDS AND THAT THERE COULD BE SOME COMPETITIVENESS TO BE GAINED IN SOMETHING LIKE THAT. ABSOLUTELY. I'D LOVE TO HELP YOU WITH THAT PROCESS. WE WANT TO SEE YOU SUCCEED. YOU KNOW THE BLANKET PURCHASE AGREEMENT PROCESS. WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM NUMBER YOU'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE YOUR ENGINEERS CONTRACT OUT BEFORE YOU HAVE TO SEND AN RFQ OUT? GENERALLY, FOR SOME REASON I'M THINKING LIKE $250,000, BUT I, I WOULD HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU I APPRECIATE IT. THANKS FOR THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. SO, DIRECTOR KERN, I'M A[00:55:01]
LITTLE SLOW ON THE UPTAKE, SO I JUST WANT TO REFLECT BACK TO YOU WHAT I THINK I'VE HEARD. AND MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF PROJECT MANAGEMENT, THE UNIVERSE IS FEEDING REQUESTS INTO YOUR ORGANIZATION. THERE'S A PROGRAM MANAGEMENT OFFICE THAT PROCESSES AND FILTERS THOSE REQUESTS, GET SOME FUNDING, GET SOME RESOURCES, AND THEN HANDS THAT OFF TO A PROJECT MANAGER FOR EXECUTION. IS THAT A FAIR ASSESSMENT? GENERALLY, YES, I WILL TELL YOU IN THAT THAT'S ALONG THE LINES WITH SOME OF THE EXPECTATIONS FOR WHAT WILL COME OUT OF DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF GOOD PROJECTS, BUT HOW WE GOT THERE, I'M NOT REALLY CERTAIN HOW WE DECIDED AS A COMMUNITY, THESE WERE THE MOST IMPORTANT PROJECTS TO GO AFTER AND THROW GRANT MONEY AT. SO WE DO HAVE SOME GRANT COMMITMENTS AND PROJECTS WE FULLY INTEND TO FINISH, BUT ONCE WE'RE DONE WITH THOSE FIGURING OUT HOW WE NEED A PROJECT RUBRIC, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. WHAT ARE THE KPIS, HOW ARE WE GOING TO MEASURE PROJECTS AND COME UP WITH A MULTI YEAR LONG RANGE PROJECT PLAN? SO AREAS WHERE WE KNOW THERE ARE PROBLEMS SO THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PRIORITIZE PROJECTS THAT WE KNOW WE NEED, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD THAT LEVEL OF CONTROL IN OUR OWN DESTINY HISTORICALLY. SO THAT'S THE MISSING PIECE FOR ME IS, IS THE CLEARINGHOUSE FOR THE PROJECTS. AND IF YOU COULD NOT HEAR TODAY, BUT IF YOU COULD BRING SOME CLARITY TO WHO WILL BE LEADING THAT CLEARINGHOUSE FOR THE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT OFFICE, WHO'S YOUR PMO GOING TO BE THAT, THAT THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. SO ULTIMATELY, ULTIMATELY THE HOLDER OF THE CAPITAL, IDEALLY THE HOLDER OF THE CAPITAL PROJECTS PLAN WOULD BE OUR EXECUTIVE ADMINISTRATOR OF TRANSPORTATION PLANNING AND PROGRAMING. THEY'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR DEVELOPING ALL OF THOSE, BUT BEING THE PERSON WHO CAN LOOK AT THE PLAN AND WHO CAN LOOK AT THE DOLLARS AND SAY, HERE ARE PROJECTS. CAN WE FUND THEM DIFFERENTLY? WHAT'S GOING THROUGH? WHEN IS IT GOING? SHOULD WE LOOK FOR OTHER SOURCES? OKAY, WE'VE GOT TWO MORE PEOPLE IN THE QUEUE HERE, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN GET TO THEM. COUNCILMAN JOSEPH, THANK YOU. WAS I RIGHT IN SAYING OR HEARING YOU SAY THAT WHEN IT COMES TO NOT HAVING MULTIPLE OPTIONS WHEN IT COMES TO CONTRACTING OUT, LET'S SAY A SPEED HUMP OR A SIDEWALK, IT'S BECAUSE 1ST MAY BE CONTINUOUSLY BEING PICKED AND THE OTHER IS NOT BUSINESS WISE. IS THAT WAS I RIGHT IN THAT? YES AND NO. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GOT HISTORICALLY TO THE WAY THAT WE DO THE CONTRACTS FOR THINGS LIKE SPEED HUMPS. SO FOR SIDEWALKS WE HAVE THE CITY'S DIVIDED ESSENTIALLY IN HALF. WE HAVE AN AREA ONE AND AN AREA TWO, AND THEN WE HAVE A FIRST AND WE HAVE A SECOND AREA FOR EACH AREA. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT CAME TO BE HISTORICALLY. BUT HAVING ONE CONTRACT FOR EACH TASK THAT WE DO IS A PRODUCT OF NOT BEING ABLE TO HAVE A POOL OF CONTRACTORS, WHICH I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHAT PROCUREMENT IS SAYING. YOU KNOW, THE POTENTIAL TO NOT PROPORTIONATELY USE YOUR POOL. IT'S THERE, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT SOMEHOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE JUST HAVE ONE CONTRACTOR FOR SPEED HUMPS. BUT WOULD COMPETITION MAKE THINGS CHEAPER RATHER THAN THE MONOPOLY? IT FEELS LIKE THIS IS GENERALLY YES IT DOES. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO. OR JUST TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO IF A IF A CONTRACTOR PASSES ON WORK, WE SHOULDN'T BE WAITING ON A CONTRACTOR. YOU WOULDN'T DO THAT FOR YOUR OWN. YOU KNOW, IN YOUR OWN HOME YOU HIRE A CONTRACTOR, THEY'RE BUSY. YOU GO TO THE NEXT ONE. SO FIGURING OUT A WAY TO AGAIN, IT GOES BACK TO CONTRACTOR MANAGEMENT, WORK WITH PROCUREMENT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO GET A BETTER SITUATION FROM THE START, BUT THEN ALSO BEING MORE PROACTIVE. IF A CONTRACTOR SAYS THEY CAN'T DO WORK, YOU GOT TO MOVE TO THE SECOND ONE AND JUST DOCUMENT THAT THEY PASSED ON THE WORK, MOVE ON TO THE NEXT CONTRACTOR. SO THEN HOW DO WE KNOW AS COUNCIL PEOPLE THAT WE'RE NOT? LET'S JUST SAY I'M GOING TO SAY GETTING ROBBED HERE, THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING ROBBED AT $4,500 A SPEED HUMP RIGHT NOW. AND THEN WE KNOW WE HAVE $100,000 FOR OUR BUDGET FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR. AND THEN WE LOOK AT SPEED HUMPS AND SIGNAGE. AND BY THE TIME YOU GET FOUR SPEED HUMPS UP IN SIGNAGE, YOU'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT 20% OF YOUR BUDGET BEING TAKEN IS SET UP. CURRENTLY WE HAVE WE HAVE PRICING IN THERE. AND THAT IS THE PRICING THAT WE HAVE. WE HAVE OTHER CONTRACTORS AVAILABLE, BUT THAT IS NOT REALLY THEIR CORE FUNCTION. AND SOMETIMES THEY END UP BEING ACTUALLY HIGHER THAN THAT CONTRACT. SO THAT'S THAT IS DEFINITELY BEEN SOMETHING THAT IS ON THE TOP OF THE LIST TO TALK WITH PROCUREMENT ABOUT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN BRATCHER. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO GET THIS CLEAR. DIRECTOR KERN, WE'RE SAYING HERE TODAY[01:00:06]
THAT THERE ARE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN FUNDED. THEY'RE ON THE BOOKS READY TO GO, BUT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH CONTRACTORS TO COMPLETE THEM. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING? I MEAN, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE PROBABLY GET TIRED OF ME BRINGING UP STATE, BUT THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT TO DRAW ON MY DECADES IN THE STATE. AND IT WAS THE OPPOSITE THERE. EVERYTHING'S OVER PROGRAMED, WAITING FOR BUCKS TO COME. AND I'M JUST SURPRISED THAT THERE ARE OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE FUNDED OR READY TO BE FUNDED THAT ARE JUST SIMPLY NOT BEING COMPLETED OR STARTED ON, BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH THIRD PARTY CONTRACTORS TO HIRE. IS THAT TRUE? I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S ENTIRELY TRUE. I WE HAVE CONTRACTORS. SO FOR INSTANCE, RIGHT NOW WITH OUR PAVING CONTRACTORS AND OUR SIDEWALK CONTRACTORS, WE HAVE THOSE PLANS THAT ARE PROGRAMED IN. THE CONTRACTORS ARE WORKING AGAINST THOSE PLANS FOR THE YEAR. SO THEY HAVE WORK PROGRAMED OUT AND THEN THEY'RE COMMITTED TO FINISHING THE WORK THAT'S PROGRAMED. I KNOW THAT HISTORICALLY THERE HAVE BEEN DELAYS IN GETTING SPEED HUMPS INSTALLED. WHEN I FIRST STARTED, WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A TIMELINE THAT THEY HAD TO HOLD TO GET A SPEED HUMP INSTALLED. IT WAS JUST KIND OF WHENEVER THEY GOT TO IT, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY UNACCEPTABLE. SO NOW I BELIEVE IT'S A 30 DAY WINDOW, BUT I KNOW THERE'S SOME PERCEPTION IN DRAGGING TO GET THOSE INSTALLED, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY GET A FULL UPDATE ON WHERE THE CONTRACTOR IS. SO BUT SO THIS IS ONLY SIDEWALKS AND SPEED HUMPS. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT, SAY, HELOC IN FERN CREEK. I'VE BEEN WAITING TEN YEARS FOR THAT TO GET DONE. SO THAT IS A THAT IS A DIFFERENT PROJECT. SO PROJECTS WHERE FUNDING IS SOURCED FROM OTHER LOCATIONS LIKE THE STATE BUDGET OR THAT ARE FEDERALLY FUNDED, THOSE PROJECTS MOVE MUCH MORE SLOWLY. THOSE ARE SET UP IN A WAY THAT WE ARE. WE'RE AUTHORIZED TO SPEND FUNDS. WE GET REIMBURSED FOR FUNDS. THEY'RE ALSO BROKEN DOWN INTO MULTIPLE PHASES. SO IF YOU HAD A FEDERALLY FUNDED PROJECT, YOU AT A MINIMUM, YOU WOULD GENERALLY HAVE A PLANNING PHASE, A DESIGN PHASE, A UTILITY PHASE, A RIGHT OF WAY PHASE AND CONSTRUCTION PHASE. AND EACH OF THOSE PHASES COULD TAKE UP TO A YEAR OR LONGER. SURE. WHICH IS WHICH IS PART OF THE DELAY. THE OTHER PART OF THAT, TOO, IS THAT THOSE FUNDS ARE PROGRAMED IN THROUGH OUR MPO. SO IF YOU HIT A IF YOU'RE READY TO GO TO CONSTRUCTION, BUT YOU DIDN'T AUTHORIZE THOSE, THOSE FUNDS IN THE YEAR THEY WERE PROGRAMED FOR CONSTRUCTION. AND YOU DON'T THEN HAVE YOUR LOCAL MATCH IN THE SAME YEAR, THEN YOU CAN'T DO THE PROJECT. IT'S COMPLICATED. BUT THE LAST THING, MR. CHAIR, IS, YOU KNOW, YOU HEAR COUNCILMAN PERVIS AND SHAMIKA TALKING ABOUT THAT. THERE'S FRUSTRATION IN THE DISTRICT BECAUSE AND COUNCILMAN REED THAT THERE'S THINGS FUNDED BUT NOT BEING DONE. THAT'S JUST THAT JUST MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST TAKE A MAGNIFYING GLASS TO THAT AND SEE WHAT'S WRONG. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE INTEND TO DO. PART OF IT TOO, AS FAR AS BEING TRANSPARENT TO THE OUTSIDE, IS HAVING A MAP. AGAIN. WHEN I FIRST STARTED, WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A LIST OF THE TOTALITY OF OUR PROJECTS. ULTIMATELY, THE GOAL IS TO MOVE TO A MAP THAT YOU COULD CLICK ON THE MAP, AND IT COULD GIVE YOU REAL INFORMATION ABOUT WHERE THE PROJECT IS, WHAT IS GOING ON, WHAT CAN YOU REASONABLY EXPECT FROM A PROJECT, AND FOR A LAYPERSON TO BE ABLE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, A LIST OF PROJECTS DOESN'T HELP PEOPLE. WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO MAKE VERY TECHNICAL INFORMATION ACCESSIBLE TO A LAYPERSON SO THAT YOU CAN COMMUNICATE IT. PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND IT. SO HAVING A CAPITAL PROJECTS MAP IS WHAT WE WANT TO MOVE TO. THERE ARE SOME PROJECTS I KNOW. RECENTLY COOPER CHAPEL WAS BROUGHT UP AND IT WAS IMPLIED THAT THERE HAD BEEN NO MOVEMENT ON COOPER CHAPEL. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ONE RIGHT OF WAY PARCEL LEFT TO ACQUIRE WITHIN FEDERAL FISCAL YEAR 26. WE PLAN TO DO UTILITY WORK AND THEN MOVE INTO CONSTRUCTION AFTER THAT. SO SOME PHASES, ESPECIALLY RIGHT AWAY, CAN THEY CAN TAKE YEARS.AND THERE'S NOT A REAL HARD DEADLINE. WE CAN PUT ON PHASES LIKE THAT, BUT WE CAN BE MORE TRANSPARENT AROUND WHERE WE ARE WITH PROJECTS. OUR TIME HAS EXPIRED. COUNCILMAN BATSON WAS IN THE QUEUE. COULD I ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONNECT WITH HIM OFFLINE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS HE MAY HAVE? I THANK YOU FOR COMING AND PROVIDING YOUR PRESENTATIONS. VERY HELPFUL. WISH YOU ALL THE BEST IN THE NEW DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I WILL SAY IF THERE ARE ANY OF YOU, I BELIEVE EVERYONE HERE HAS MY CELL PHONE NUMBER. IF THERE IS AN EMERGENCY, PLEASE DO NOT HESITATE TO CALL OR TEXT ME AT THAT NUMBER. IF THERE IS AN
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EMERGENCY THAT NEEDS AN IMMEDIATE RESPONSE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. STAND ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. MR.