May 28, 2025 Budget Hearings FY 2025-2026

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THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN WINKLER. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR COLLINS. THANKS FOR BEING HERE. I'VE GOT THREE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. THE FIRST ONE IS, YOU KNOW, AND FORTUNATELY, I THINK JUST LAST WEEK WE HAD YET ANOTHER DEATH IN THE FACILITY. MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS, DOES THIS BUDGET PROVIDE THE RIGHT LEVELS OF FUNDING TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO ARE IN CARE OF CORRECTIONS? YES IT DOES. UNFORTUNATELY, LAST WEEK THAT WAS A I CAN NOT SAY 100%, BUT I CAN SAY 99.9% OF SUICIDE ACTUALLY IN A DORM SETTING, WHICH IS VERY SAFE, VERY THOUGHT. IT WAS VERY THOUGHT OUT AND VERY UNFORTUNATE. HOWEVER, I THINK THIS BUDGET DOES REFLECT WHAT WE'VE ASKED FOR AND WHAT IT HAS IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. REALLY UPGRADING OUR TECHNOLOGY, LOOKING AT THINGS WE'RE DOING THAT ARE THAT WE CAN GREATLY REDUCE THINGS AS SUICIDE AND OVERDOSES. WHAT WE CAN'T PREVENT IS NATURAL CAUSES. BUT THIS THIS BUDGET REFLECTS WHAT WE CAN DO.

SO RELATED TO THE SAFETY OF INMATES AND THE SAFETY OF OUR OFFICERS IS CERTAINLY THE STATUS OF THAT FACILITY IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET. I KNOW THIS DIDN'T FALL UNDER YOUR BUDGET. THIS FELL ACTUALLY UNDER THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE COMMISSION. SO MAYBE I'M SORT OF OUT OF MY SIDE HERE LOOKING AT DEPUTY MAYOR MAYTON, WE FUNDED A STUDY LOOKING AT THE CORRECTIONS FACILITY, SORT OF FROM DIVERSION AT THE BEGINNING ALL THE WAY THROUGH, IMPACTING RECIDIVISM ON THE BACK END. I'M CURIOUS WHAT THE STATUS IS OF THAT STUDY AND WHEN WE SHOULD EXPECT TO SEE THE RESULTS. I HAVE NOT SEEN IT, BUT I WILL DEFER THAT TO DEPUTY MAYOR MEETING ON THAT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR DANA MATSON, OPERATIONS AND BUDGET. YOU'RE CORRECT. THAT PROJECT IS BEING MANAGED OUT OF THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE COMMISSION WITH DIRECTOR AUGUSTINE. THE STAFF HAS SEEN A VERY, VERY PRELIMINARY DRAFT AND GONE BACK TO THE CONTRACTOR AND POINTED OUT SOME THINGS, ASKED THEM TO FURTHER RESEARCH SOME THINGS, CONFIRM SOME DATA, ETC. SO, AS THE CHIEF SAID, HE HASN'T EVEN SEEN IT YET BECAUSE WE WANTED TO MAKE THE FIRST SCRUB AT IT WITH THE STAFF. SO HOPEFULLY HERE IN A FEW WEEKS, MID-SUMMER WE'LL GET THE NEXT DRAFT BACK. SHARE THAT MORE BROADLY INTERNALLY AND THEN FINALIZE IT. SO YEAH, IT'S TAKEN US A WHILE, BUT IT'S A BIG PROJECT AS YOU KNOW. THANK YOU. DIRECTOR, DEPUTY MAYOR AND DIRECTOR. MY LAST QUESTION ALSO RELATED SORT OF TO THE DIVERSION. PART OF IT IS, I BELIEVE LAST YEAR WE HAD A WE FUNDED A DIVERSION PROGRAM WITH WELLSPRING. IS THAT GOING TO CONTINUE, AND DO WE HAVE ANY DATA ON ITS USAGE AND IMPACTS? YES, THAT IS GOING TO CONTINUE. I CAN GIVE YOU SOME DATA FROM THE LAST YEAR. THERE'S 125 FOLKS THAT ARE INCARCERATED THAT GET SENT TO THAT PROGRAM. AVERAGE LENGTH OF STAY. THERE WAS 21 DAYS ENGAGED IN NOT ONLY MENTAL HEALTH, BUT SUBSTANCE USE WAS 60% OF THE FOLKS. ALSO 25% ENGAGED IN OTHER PROGRAMS WHILE THEY WERE THERE. 22 OF THE FOLKS RECEIVED HOUSING SUPPORT UPON RELEASE FROM THE PROGRAM. WHAT ELSE I GOT HERE? 78% MET THE TREATMENT GOALS WHILE THEY WERE THERE, AND 88 OR 86% DEMONSTRATED IMPROVEMENT ON THAT. SO YEAH, IT'S BEEN WORKING WELL. WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO DO IT THIS YEAR, IS THERE? SO WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU COULD SEND US THOSE RESULTS SEPARATELY. JUST, YOU KNOW, HARD TO WRITE THEM ALL DOWN. BUT RELATED TO THAT, IF I COULD JUST ASK ONE FOLLOW UP QUESTION OR TWO, FOLLOW UP ONE, DO WE TRACK RECIDIVISM OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT GO THROUGH THE PROGRAM? AND DO WE HAPPEN TO HAVE THOSE NUMBERS SORT OF TO DATE? AND THEN SECONDARILY, IS THAT PROGRAM FUNDED AT A LEVEL TODAY THAT IF YOU'RE SEEING SUCH POSITIVE RESULTS OR IF YOU THINK THE RESULTS ARE POSITIVE AND WE'RE SEEING POSITIVE RESULTS, IT HAVE WE FUNDED IT AT A LEVEL THAT ALLOWS ANYBODY WHO'S ELIGIBLE TO GO THROUGH IT, OR DO WE NEED TO EXPAND, AND DO WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO EXPAND? WELL, YES. YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IT WAS THE FIRST YEAR OF IT. SO NOW WE CAN START TRACKING RECIDIVISM RATES AS IT COME IN. AND WE'LL DO THAT BY THE AMOUNT OF TIMES THEY INCARCERATED BEFORE TO WHEN THEY WERE AFTER AFTER THIS PROGRAM. SO THEN WE CAN PROPERLY EVALUATE IF WE NEED TO EXPAND THAT, REDUCE THAT OR IF IT'S BEING EFFECTIVE. OKAY. THANK YOU DIRECTOR I THINK THAT MAY BE SOMETHING FOR JUST TO PUT US TO PUT A PIN IN MAYBE FOR MIDYEAR. CERTAINLY GOING INTO THE END OF THE YEAR, GETTING A STATUS UPDATE ON THAT AND SEEING WHETHER AN EXPANSION IS MERITED.

ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND AS WE BEGIN, I'LL OVERLOOK THE COUNCILMAN. SAM IS

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WE'VE ALSO BEEN JOINED BY COUNCILMAN OWEN AND COUNCILMAN JOSEPH. WE ALSO HAVE AN EXCUSED AND AN EXCUSED ABSENCE FOR COUNCILMAN RENA WEBER. COUNCILMAN WOOLRIDGE AND COUNCILMAN CHAPPELL HAS JOINED US. COUNCILMAN WOOLRIDGE, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU, CHIEF COLLINS AND STAFF FOR BEING HERE. I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. FIRST, ONE IS IN REGARDS TO YOUR STAFFING. I SEE RIGHT NOW, I THINK APRIL 1ST YOU HAD 441 CURRENTLY STAFFED. IS THAT AT YOUR CAPACITY OR WHAT IS YOUR CURRENT CAPACITY THAT YOU'D LIKE TO BE AT TO BE FULLY STAFFED? NO, WE DID A STAFFING ANALYSIS, AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, IN HERE, WE PREVIOUSLY HAD THAT STAFFING LEVEL WAS FOR THE COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS CENTER ALSO, WHICH IS NO LONGER WITH US, UNFORTUNATELY. SO WE'RE AT ABOUT 60 OFFICER VACANCIES, ABOUT 6065. SO WE'RE DOING WELL ON THAT. AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT OPTIMAL, BUT WE'RE GOING TO RUN FOR AT LEAST FOUR ACADEMIES THIS YEAR. SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL WE'LL REDUCE THAT EVEN GREATER. THANK YOU. MY NEXT QUESTION IS REGARDS TO TURNOVER RATE THAT YOU HAVE. I THINK LAST YEAR YOU'RE AT 15.84% COMPARED TO METRO WIDE AT 3.70. WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING TO DO TO ADDRESS THAT IF YOU KNOW HOW YOU CAN ADDRESS IT RIGHT NOW.

AND I GUESS SECOND PART OF THAT, HOW IS WE AS COUNCIL? HOW CAN WE SUPPORT YOU IN THAT EFFORT? YEAH, I THINK CURRENTLY WE'RE AT ABOUT JUST OVER 14 I BELIEVE ON THAT. AND OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO REDUCE THAT. IT'S VERY TOUGH PROFESSION. AND ALSO WE HAVE WE'RE AT A WAVE OF THE FINAL WAVE OF 20 YEAR RETIREMENTS ON HAZARDOUS DUTY. SO THOSE FOLKS WE HAD A LOT OF FOLKS RETIRING.

AND YOU KNOW WITH THE ACCOUNTABILITY WE HAVE, WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

SO WE'RE WE'VE BEEN RUNNING ABOUT EVEN ON THE TURNOVER AND THE AND WHAT WE'RE HIRING. SO WE HOPE THROUGH CONTINUED CULTURE CHANGE THAT WE CAN REDUCE THAT. THANK YOU. AND WITH TO ADD, WE'RE CLOSING IN CLOSE TO FOP CONTRACTS THIS YEAR THAT THAT THE BEST CONTRACTS YOU KNOW IN THE HISTORY SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE FOR THEM. SO HOPEFULLY THAT WILL HELP. AND THEN WE'LL HOPEFULLY HEAR SHORTLY. WE'LL CLOSE TWO MORE CIVILIAN CONTRACTS. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN HERNDON. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU, SIR, FOR BEING HERE WHEN WE GAVE THE NEW FOLKS THE TOUR OF THE JAIL. WHEN WE FIRST STARTED, YOU WERE WE WERE TALKING AT ONE POINT ABOUT THE COST OF WHEN YOU WHEN STATE PRISONERS CORRECT A DAILY COST VERSUS THE ACTUAL COST. AND I RECALL THAT WAS A PRETTY WIDE DISPARITY. YOU REMEMBER WHAT THOSE WIDE GAP COST. AND OF COURSE, EVERY YEAR IT'S GOING TO COST MORE FOR US TO HOUSE INMATES. SO IT'S ABOUT 135 FOR US RIGHT NOW. AND WE GET REIMBURSED OVER 45, ABOUT $35 A DAY. SO THAT'S A THAT'S A WIDE GAP THAT'S CONTROLLED BY THE STATE LEGISLATURE, UNFORTUNATELY. SO YEAH, WE HAVE TO KIND OF EAT THAT COST SOMETIMES. AND IN THE LAST FISCAL YEAR WHAT WAS THAT TOTAL COST DIFFERENCE. YOU KNOW I DO NOT HAVE THE TOTAL COST. CAN WE GET THAT? I'D LOVE TO KNOW WHAT THAT IS. SO WE CAN TALK TO OUR FRIENDS IN FRANKFORT AND MAYBE GET THEM TO HELP US OUT. YEAH.

OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN. BECKMAN. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. AND THANKS, CHIEF AND CORRECTIONS GUYS, FOR BEING HERE. WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE AND YOUR WORK. MY QUESTION IS IN REGARDS. I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS, SIR. WHICH OF THE FOLLOWING DEFERRED MAINTENANCE PROJECTS ON THIS ON THE LIST ARE ANTICIPATED TO BE COMPLETED BY SIX, 3025 VERSUS THE FISCAL YEAR 26. JIM, LET ME GET JUST A SECOND. TO FILE MY DEFERRED MAINTENANCE. OKAY. CAN YOU DID YOU ASK ABOUT 25? YES. OR ARE THEY PROJECTED TO BE THIS. SO THE CURRENT DEFERRED MAINTENANCE NEEDS LIKE PLUMBING, SHOWER LIGHTING, SHOWER BOXES, SHOWER VENTS, FIRE EXTINGUISHERS, ETC. ARE THESE PROJECTED TO BE DONE BY THE END OF JUNE, OR ARE THEY GOING TO ROLL INTO 26 WITH THAT FISCAL YEAR? NO, OUR 25 WILL ALL BE ACCOUNTED FOR. ALL THE DOLLARS WILL BE ACCOUNTED FOR. 26 YEAH, WE PUT IT ON. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS PUT IN WHAT WE CAN TO COMPLETE IN THAT FISCAL YEAR, EVEN IF IT HAS TO BE PHASED IN. YOU'LL SEE SOME PHASE IN LIKE SHOWER BOXES AND, AND PLUMBING AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. ONE OF THE THINGS WE RUN INTO, LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR. AND THAT'S WHY THE SHOWER BOXES AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT ROLLED OVER WAS WE HAD TO PIVOT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR FOR HOUSING NEEDS AND DO A RENOVATION ON OUR SIXTH FLOOR, EAST SIDE TO MAKE THAT A OPEN WALK, INCREASE OUR HOUSING ABILITY BY ABOUT 40 INDIVIDUALS. SO YES, THAT'S WHAT WE ANTICIPATE. BUT SOMETIMES IN THE MIDDLE OF YEAR WE HAVE TO PIVOT AND USE THAT MONEY FOR, YOU KNOW, THE NEED THAT IT IS THERE FOR RIGHT NOW. I THINK THAT JUST WOULD LEAD ME INTO THE NEXT QUESTION. SO THE FY 26 BUDGET PROPOSED DEFERRED MAINTENANCE PROJECTS TOTAL ABOUT $2 MILLION.

AND WILL THAT BE FUNDED OUT OF THE CAPITAL FUND? CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN

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AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE BUDGET LINE FOR THIS YEAR IS $15,000. SO IS THAT BEING TAKEN OUT SOME OTHER PLACE IN THE IN THE BUDGET AND WHAT'S BEING PROVIDED? YEAH, THAT IS TO BETTER REALIGN WITH THE BUDGET ITEMS OR COMBINE THEM. OUR PRISONER WELFARE SERVICES. WHERE ARE WE AT? YEAH IT WAS THAT BUDGET WAS MOVED TO THE ACTUAL CATEGORIES LINE WITH THE EXPENDITURE SUCH AS MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, DRUGS, MEDICINE, PRISONER WELFARE SUPPLIES AND MOST EXPENSES HAVE BEEN CHARGED HERE, BUT RATHER THE MORE SPECIFIC CATEGORIES. OKAY. AND WHAT WELFARE SERVICES ARE BEING PROVIDED? KIND OF WHAT I JUST WENT OVER, YOU KNOW, MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, DRUGS AND MEDICINE, PRISONER WELFARE SUPPLIES. SO THERE THERE'S A GREAT LITANY OF WHERE THAT COMES FROM. BUT AGAIN, I THINK THIS YEAR, OMB AND US LAST COUPLE YEARS ARE TRYING TO BETTER REFLECT ON THE LINE ITEMS THAT CORRECTLY COME OUT OF. OKAY. THANK YOU. ADDITIONAL QUESTION REGARDING THE HIRING IT SUGGESTED HERE CHECK ON THE NUMBER OF FEMALES THAT ARE HIRING. AND IN GENERAL, WHAT ABOUT THE DIVERSITY OF PEOPLE THAT WE'RE BRINGING IN AS CORRECTIONS OFFICERS? HOW IS THAT REFLECTING UPON THE POPULATION AS A WHOLE? IS IT GETTING MORE COMPARABLE? I WOULD CHALLENGE THAT. ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT, WE HAVE A BETTER RATIO OF FEMALES, AND I THINK WE SENT THAT IN YOUR PACKET. THEN ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY IN THE COUNTY. LET ME SEE WHAT WE GOT HERE. WE HAVE ABOUT 68% MALES AND 32% FEMALES. AND NOW I'M GOING. THAT IS A GREAT DIFFERENCE IN THE ACTUAL POPULATION OF THE JAIL. AND THEN WE HAVE 186, 187 WHITE MALES, 94 BLACK MALES. 88 BLACK FEMALES AND 44 WHITE FEMALES, 12 HISPANIC FEMALES AND FIVE ASIAN. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YEP. THANK YOU. I SHOULD POINT OUT THAT WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY COUNCILWOMAN COUNCILWOMAN MCCRANEY. AND COUNCILWOMAN COUNCILWOMAN PARKER HAS JOINED US ONLINE. COUNCILWOMAN WOOLRIDGE, THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN. COUNCILWOMAN RUIZ, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS I WAS GOING TO ASK IN REGARDS TO THE CHANGE IN LINE ITEMS WITH DETAILS. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT ON THE SAME HAND, I DO SEE THAT WE ADDED A DRUGS AND MEDICINE SUPPLIES THIS TIME. DOES THAT STRICTLY HAVE TO DO WITH ADMINISTERING DRUGS THAT ARE NEEDED FROM INMATES, OR DOES THAT ALSO HAVE TO DO WITH THE TREATMENT PLANS OF THOSE STRUGGLING WITH OPIOIDS? AND HOW IS THAT BEING ADDRESSED? THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. MEDICALLY ASSISTED TREATMENT IS THAT FOR THE FOR THE INMATES? BUT SO IS THE PHARMACY ITEM. WHEN WE HAVE OUR CONTRACT FOR THAT WE HAVE GENERAL MEDICINES.

BUT THERE'S VERY EXPENSIVE MEDICINES OUTSIDE THAT CONTRACT SUCH AS FOR HIV. SO THAT IS WE HAD TO WAIT A YEAR BECAUSE WE, WE CHANGED VENDORS WHICH HAD THEIR OWN PHARMACY, WHICH IT WAS ALL COMBINED BEFORE. SO NOW AFTER THE YEAR WE LOOKED AT, WE SPENT ABOUT $125,000 OF THOSE DRUGS THAT WERE OUTSIDE OF THE CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION OF THE VENDOR. OKAY. AND WHEN IT COMES TO THE OPIOID TREATMENTS OR TREATMENTS OF JUST THOSE, THOSE INMATES THAT ARE HAVING, WHETHER IT BE MENTAL ISSUES OR DRUG REHABILITATION, WHAT ARE YOU WHAT IS WHAT ARE YOU ALL'S CORRECTIONS CURRENTLY DOING TO SUPPORT THAT? YES, WE HAVE CURRENTLY. I DIDN'T GET THE EXACT NUMBER TODAY, BUT WE'VE GOT AROUND 100 FOLKS THAT ARE MEDICALLY ASSISTED TREATMENT AND THAT METHADONE OR SUBOXONE, YOU KNOW, THAT IS COVERED UNDER OUR MEDICAL, OUR CONTRACT THAT WE INCREASE WITH OUR VENDOR. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN PURVIS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. MISS COLLINS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME OVER HERE. I'M RIGHT HERE. OH, GOTCHA. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. I JUST HAD A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU. ONE WAS A FEW YEARS AGO OR MAYBE A YEAR AGO. I SPOKE WITH AN EMPLOYEE THAT WAS CONCERNED ABOUT LACK OF EQUIPMENT TO DO THE JOB EFFICIENTLY. AND ONE OF THE MAIN FOCUS WAS HAVING ACCESS TO FLASHLIGHTS. SPOKE OF AN INCIDENT WHERE A FLASHLIGHT WAS NEEDED, DIDN'T HAVE A FLASHLIGHT, SO THE CORRECTION OFFICER HAD TO USE HER CELL PHONE, WHICH THEY WERE REPRIMANDED FOR USING THE CELL PHONE. SO CAN YOU SPEAK ON THAT? AND CAN YOU TELL ME ARE YOU INCLUDING FLASHLIGHTS IN THIS BUDGET? FLASHLIGHTS ARE EQUIPMENT THAT THAT WE ISSUE AND HAVE ON EVERY FLOOR. WE'VE ALSO

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SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE TOOLS THEY NEED TO DO THEIR JOB. NO, THEY DO, AND I APPRECIATE THAT. I DO FLASHLIGHTS AND THAT THEY WON'T HAVE TO USE THEIR CELL PHONES AND THEN GET REPRIMANDED FOR USING THEIR PHONE. SO I JUST WANT TO KNOW THAT THEY WILL HAVE FLASHLIGHTS. EVERYTHING THEY NEED, WE WILL PROVIDE COUNSEL. OKAY? OKAY. NEXT QUESTION I HAD FOR YOU. I SEE THAT YOUR TURNOVER RATE IS STILL HIGH AND IT'S CLIMBING. HOW DO YOU PLAN TO ADDRESS THAT? YEAH, I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT JUST OVER 14 THAT WE HOPE TO KEEP BRINGING DOWN AGAIN WITH THE CONTRACT INCREASES. AND HOPEFULLY THE CULTURE CHANGE IS VERY DIFFICULT TO RECRUIT IN THIS PROFESSION. IT'S A VERY TOUGH JOB AND I APPRECIATE EVERYONE THAT DOES IT. BUT I THINK AS WE GO THROUGH AND WE PAY PROFESSIONAL WAGES AND WE WE'RE, WE ARE EXPECTING PROFESSIONAL ACTIONS TO. SO, YOU KNOW, OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS WE'VE HAD TO HOLD FOLKS ACCOUNTABLE. AND YOU KNOW, SO AS WE DO THAT AND THAT STARTS SHIFTING THE OTHER WAY, HOPEFULLY THAT THAT GOES DOWN. WE DID HAVE JUST AND I GIVE YOU AN INSTANCE FOR SOME OF THIS WITH AS FAR AS CORRECTIONS GOES, JUST IN THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS THAT WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OFFICERS ACCEPTED TO AIRPORT POLICE AND SHIVELY POLICE. SO A LOT OF FOLKS COME IN AND, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF FACTORS IN THE TURNOVER WOULD BE RETIREMENT, DISCIPLINARY ACTIONS, OR A LOT OF FOLKS USE THIS TO GET THEIR THEIR BASE AND GO TO OTHER AGENCIES. AND I SUPPORT THAT. YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S MAKES ME PROUD OF THAT. AND WE LOSE FOLKS TO LMPD, TO SHIVELY, TO THE AIRPORT, TO THE SHERIFF'S. SO WE HOPE TO KEEP BRINGING IT DOWN THROUGH MULTITUDE OF, OF WAYS. BUT YEAH, WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE A HOPEFULLY NOT THAT HIGH, BUT A TURNOVER RATE THAT'S PROBABLY HIGHER THAN THE AVERAGE JOB. HOW MANY VACANCIES DO YOU CURRENTLY HAVE ABOUT SWORN CIVILIAN? OH, I GUESS WE HAVE ABOUT 60 TO 65 SWORN AND THEN JUST OVER 30 CIVILIAN. WOW. SO IT LOOKS LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER AGENCIES AROUND TOWN ARE COMPETING WITH WHAT YOU HAVE GOING ON WITH YOUR STAFF. AND AS WELL, IF YOU ASK ANY POLICE.

YEAH, IF YOU ASK ANY POLICE AGENCY, THEY'RE THEY'RE STRUGGLING. LMPD THE SHERIFF'S SHIVELY TO GET FOLKS TO. SO A EASY PLACE TO GO IS CORRECTIONS. SO CAN YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE INCENTIVES THEY HAVE AS TO WHY THEY SEEM TO ATTRACT YOUR EMPLOYEES. CAN YOU LOOK AT SOME OTHER INCENTIVES AND SAY, HEY, MAYBE WE CAN DO THIS. WE CAN DO THAT TO KEEP OUR PEOPLE? YEAH, I THINK OUR INCENTIVES ARE VERY COMPETITIVE. HOWEVER, A LOT OF FOLKS THAT GO INTO LAW ENFORCEMENT ULTIMATELY WANT TO BE A POLICE OFFICER, SO THEY USE CORRECTIONS. AND I DON'T MIND THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO START. WE HAVE MULTITUDE OF WELL OVER DOUBLE DIGITS IN LMPD. WE HAVE AT LEAST SIX OF OUR FORMER OFFICERS IN SHIVELY, I THINK THREE IN THE AIRPORT POLICE. SO THEY THEY LEARN A BASE HERE AND IT'S OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO MAYBE THEY COULDN'T GET ON A POLICE ORIGINALLY, BUT AFTER GETTING A STRONG BASE IN CORRECTIONS, THEY CAN GO THERE THEN. OKAY. AND LAST I NOTICED THAT YOU HAVE TWO UNION CONTRACTS THAT STILL HAVE NOT SETTLED. CORRECT. THEY'VE EXPIRED. DO YOU EXPECT THEM TO BE RESOLVED BY THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR? I HOPE SO, WE I, I SPOKE ON THIS A FEW MINUTES AGO ARE TWO THAT THAT ARE EXPIRED ARE CIVILIAN CONTRACTS. WE VOTED THOSE THEY'VE BEEN NEGOTIATED. THE FIRST VOTERS WENT THROUGH THEY THEY VOTED THEM DOWN. SO I THINK THEY'RE MEETING FRIDAY TO DECIDE WHETHER THEY WANT TO VOTE AGAIN OR GO BACK TO THE TABLE. BUT THEY DID A SIGNIFICANT RAISES ON BOTH OF THEM FOR HIRING. SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THOSE RESOLVED. LIKE I SAID, THEY'VE BEEN NEGOTIATED.

HOPEFULLY THEY CAN BE VOTED IN OR I REALLY CAN'T ANTICIPATE IF IT GOES BACK TO THE TABLE, HOW LONG THAT WILL TAKE. DO YOU THINK SOME OF THE NEGOTIATIONS AND THE THINGS THAT YOU ALL THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED IN THE NEW CONTRACT, DO YOU THINK THESE THINGS WILL HELP RETAIN SOME OF THE EMPLOYEES? OH, ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN CHAPPELL. HELLO.

YOU HAVE THE JAIL DASHBOARD, WHICH IS OR THE LOUISVILLE METRO DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS JAIL POPULATION MANAGEMENT DASHBOARD, WHICH IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S UP TO DATE AND EVERYTHING'S GREAT ON

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BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE AN INCREASE IN SOFTWARE MAINTENANCE. THAT WAS ZERO LAST YEAR AND IS GOING TO $125,500. SO ARE THOSE TWO ACCOUNTS CORRELATED AT ALL? YEAH. LET ME TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT ONE. WHEN WE CHANGED COMPUTER OPERATING SYSTEMS FROM JAIL TO JAIL TRACKER, THAT FIRST YEAR OF MAINTENANCE WAS HOUSED IN MTS. AND THEN NOW WE HAVE PICKED IT UP. THAT'S WHY THERE'S AN INCREASE ON THAT. SO THAT'S THE MAINTENANCE CONTRACT FOR THAT.

AND IS SO THAT IS REFLECTIVE OF THE JAIL DASHBOARD. NO, THE DASHBOARD IS RUN THROUGH NOT OUR OUR AGENCY. IT'S PUT UP THROUGH OUR AGENCY. BUT THAT'S THAT'S NOT A COST TO US. AND WOULD THAT BE THROUGH LOUISVILLE METRO TECHNOLOGY. NO THAT'S THROUGH THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE COMMISSION.

DO YOU KNOW AN ANNUAL COST FOR THAT DASHBOARD? I DO NOT, DEPUTY MAYOR MINTON. YEAH, THAT DOESN'T COME OUT OF MY BUDGET. IF IT'S IF THERE'S ANY COST TO IT AT ALL OR WHAT? WHAT THAT MAY BE SURE.

I ALSO WANTED TO ASK, THERE'S A CONTRACT IN HERE THAT EXPIRES 11 725. AND THAT'S FOR SOCIAL MEDIA MANAGEMENT. AND THAT WAS A PRETTY HEFTY CONTRACT AT $167,000. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE ANTICIPATING TO RENEW, AND IS THAT REFLECTED IN YOUR BUDGET THIS YEAR? YES, THAT'S REFLECTIVE IN OUR BUDGET. THAT'S PART OF OUR RECRUITING. THAT'S OUR SOCIAL MEDIA, OUR RADIO, RADIO AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO THEY REALLY HANDLE OUR SOCIAL MEDIA AND RECRUITING FOR THAT END OF IT. AND SO THAT'S JUST LINKEDIN AND FACEBOOK. MULTITUDE. I COULDN'T FIND YOU ON, I THINK, INSTAGRAM WONDERING WHAT YOUR HANDLES WERE. INSTAGRAM, FACEBOOK X THAT ALSO IS OUR RADIO BILLBOARD. ANY DIGITAL ADVERTISING DIRECTOR, WOULD YOU MIND INVITING HER TO THE PODIUM. YEAH. IT'S ONE ONE EASTERN. SHE'S OUR HR DIRECTOR. THANK YOU. OKAY. NO WORRIES. WE APPRECIATE SOMEONE HAVING THE ANSWER IN THE ROOM. THERE WE GO. YES. SO IF YOU WOULD JUST INTRODUCE YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. I AM JUANITA BLAND TUNSTALL. I'M THE EXECUTIVE ADMINISTRATOR OVER HUMAN RESOURCES FOR METRO CORRECTIONS. GREAT. THANK YOU.

AND IF YOU DON'T MIND, IF YOU COULD SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE, YOUR ANSWER SO THAT THE VIEWING PUBLIC CAN HEAR IT AS WELL. THANK YOU. IS THIS BETTER OKAY. SO THAT'S INCLUSIVE OF NOT JUST OUR SOCIAL MEDIA BUT IT'S ALSO RADIO ADVERTISEMENTS, BILLBOARDS, SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGNS, DIGITAL ADVERTISING. SO LIKE WHEN YOU SEE THE ADS ON SOCIAL MEDIA THAT POP UP, IT'S INCLUSIVE OF ALL OF THAT. THE SOCIAL MEDIA POST, THEY LOOK GREAT. I WAS WONDERING, HAVE WE SEEN AN ROI ON THAT? LIKE, DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH IT COSTS PER HIRE IN THAT SPEND? WE DON'T, BUT WE COULD CALCULATE THAT. I DO GET MONTHLY REPORTS FROM THE COMPANY THAT TAKES CARE OF OUR SOCIAL MEDIA SO I CAN FORWARD THOSE. SURE. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO KNOW THAT THOSE EFFORTS ARE WORKING. THE SOCIAL MEDIA, LIKE I SAID, LOOKS GREAT, BUT I CAN'T SEE ANY OF THE ADS. I DON'T THINK THAT I'M MAYBE YOUR TARGET. AND THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. DIRECTOR COLLINS. THERE'S ALSO A CONTRACT IN HERE FOR A PHONE INTEGRATED INMATE PHONE SYSTEM AND OFFENDER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, AND THAT'S FOR $243,000. THERE'S ALSO AN INCARCERATED PERSONSOMMUNICATI SYSTEM, AND THAT'S $600,000. AND I WAS THDIFFENCEN TSE TWO YOU EXPLA ITEMS? THE 6 SM OF THATATURE. THE WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE YOU ASKED ON? YOU JUST ANSWERED ABOUT THE INCARCERATED PERSONS COMMUNICATION SYSTEM? IS THAT THE ONE YOU COMMENTED ON? BECAUSE THE OTHER ONE IS THE INTEGRATED INMATE PHONE SYSTEM AND OFFENDER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM? YEAH. SO THAT'S GOING TO COVER BOTH OF THOSE. NOT ONLY THE TABLETS, THE PHONE SYSTEM, THE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. SO I DON'T KNOW WHY THOSE ARE SEPARATED, BUT I WILL FIND OUT. YEAH THAT'S GOING TO COVER JAIL AND THAT ONE'S JAIL. AND ONE IS THE PHONE SYSTEM WITH THE TABLETS. SO EXCEL IS OUR INMATE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THAT WE CHANGE TO FROM JAIL OR WE CHANGED. WE CHANGED FROM JAIL TO JAIL TRACKER. SO THAT WAS ONE OF THOSE. AND THE OTHER ONE IS THE PHONE SYSTEM OKAY. THANK YOU. YEP. THANK YOU I'D LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE'VE BEEN JOINED IN CHAMBERS BY

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AND YOU AND I HAD MET EARLIER, OR, I GUESS, LATER LAST YEAR TO TALK ABOUT MAYBE EXTENDING THE JUJITSU PROGRAM THAT LMPD HAS INTO THE CORRECTIONS DEPARTMENT. AND I WAS WONDERING IF YOU HAD INCLUDED THAT IN THE BUDGET FOR TRAINING FOR THIS YEAR. NOW, ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE DONE, BECAUSE I BELIEVE LMPD HAD A COUPLE AREAS OR SCHOOLS THEY WERE LOOKING AT THAT WASN'T FULFILLING THE NEEDS. SO WE GOT WITH THEM AND MET WITH THEM ON THAT. AND THEN I THINK I HAVE A CREATIVE WAY AND I WILL GET WITH YOU TO PAY FOR THAT IN OUR BUDGET. AWESOME. SO I WILL LET YOU KNOW VERY SHORTLY, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S COVERED AND I'M GOOD ON IT. OKAY. I'D BE GLAD TO FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ON THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CHAIR. COUNCILMAN WINKLER. DIRECTOR COLLINS, JUST REMIND ME, DID WE TOTALLY ELIMINATE THE FEES FOR INMATES USING THE TELEPHONE? NO.

WE PROVIDE TWO FREE PHONE CALLS, TWO FREE 20 MINUTE PHONE CALLS A DAY AFTER THAT, THERE IS A FEE FOR THEM IF THEY WANT TO DO THAT. OKAY. PERFECT. THANK YOU. YEP. THANK YOU. JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS FROM FROM MY CHAIR. FIRST OF ALL, THERE IS $1,484,000 REMAINING IN THE FY 25 NONSCHEDULED OVERTIME BUDGET. IS THAT GOING TO BE SUFFICIENT TO GET US THROUGH JUNE? YEAH, I'M AT ON THAT YESTERDAY AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE THAT SHOULD GET US. IF NOT WE MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT OVER OKAY. AND A LOT OF THAT CONTRACT AND BACK PAY FOR THE FOP CONTRACT CAME THIS YEAR. SO THERE WAS A BUMP AT A POINT ON THAT. BUT WE'RE FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, WE'RE GOING TO BE VERY CLOSE. GOOD. THANK YOU. AND YOU SPOKE EARLIER ABOUT YOUR LEVEL OF STAFFING AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND WILL LOOK LIKE. I'M CURIOUS IF THAT WHAT IMPACT THAT WILL HAVE ON YOUR OVERTIME, YOUR SCHEDULED OVERTIME BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR, OR ACTUALLY, I SHOULD SAY ON YOUR ANTICIPATED OVERTIME FOR NEXT YEAR, INCLUDING BOTH SCHEDULED AND WHAT YOU MIGHT ANTICIPATE IS NONSCHEDULED. YEAH, I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN REDUCE SOME OF THE NUMBERS OF VACANCIES, SO THAT SHOULD DECREASE. I HOPE YOU KNOW, ALL WE CAN DO IS EVERYTHING WE CAN.

I THINK WE'RE WE'VE INCREASED THE APPLICATION NUMBERS SO THAT DON'T ALWAYS CORRELATE TO BODIES THAT QUALIFY. BUT I'M HOPING IT CONTINUES TO INCREASE THIS YEAR. ARE YOU WILLING TO MAKE A PROJECTION IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH YOU THINK THAT MIGHT BE? AS LONG AS WE MAKE A PROMISE, WE WON'T HOLD YOU TO THOSE PROJECTIONS AGAIN, I'M ASKING A TOUGH QUESTION. YEAH, I PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE WISE TO MAKE A PROJECTION ON THAT, BUT I HOPE TO BRING THAT DOWN. OKAY. FAIR ENOUGH, FAIR ENOUGH. I WANTED TO GO IN AND TAKE A LOOK. WE HAD ASKED IF YOU COULD IN IN INDIVIDUAL LINE ITEMS. THERE WERE A COUPLE WHERE THE REASON FOR YOUR YOUR SHIFT WAS. BUDGET CONSOLIDATED ACROSS MULTIPLE SPEND CATEGORIES. AND I'LL SPEAK TO TWO OF THOSE IN PARTICULAR BUILDING AND MAINTENANCE. BUILDING MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR SERVICES WENT FROM 206,000 UP TO 911. THAT'S A SHIFT OF $704,000. AND THE RESPONSE WAS BUDGET CONSOLIDATED ACROSS MULTIPLE SPEND CATEGORIES. NO. THAT WAS. THAT'S TO BETTER REFLECT THE SPEND CATEGORIES ON THAT ONE.

I'M SORRY. THAT'S TO BETTER REFLECT SPEND CATEGORIES. SO IF THEY GOT WELL YEAH I WAS CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE THOSE WERE. I MEAN AGAIN IT'S A DIFFERENCE OF $700,000. THERE'S ANOTHER ONE.

THAT SAME RESPONSE BUDGET CONSOLIDATED ACROSS MULTIPLE SPEND CATEGORIES. THAT WAS BUILDING MAINTENANCE SUPPLIES. THAT ONE WENT FROM 38,000 UP TO 250,000. SO IF YOU COULD JUST GIVE US SOME COLOR ON THOSE TWO, LIKE HOW DO WE GET FROM 260 TO 911, AND HOW DO WE GET FROM 38 TO 250,000. YEAH. SO IF YOU LOOK IN PREVIOUS BUDGETS, IT WAS LIKE YOU WOULD HAVE A, A PLUMBING, YOU WOULD HAVE HVAC, YOU WOULD HAVE ELECTRIC. THEY WERE ALL DIFFERENT LINE ITEMS. SO AS YOU COMBINE THEM, THOSE ALL ALL WENT UP INTO ONE. SO YOU COMBINED YOU JUST TOLD ME BUILDING MAINTENANCE IS THAT BUILDING MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR SERVICES. IS THAT WHAT YOU JUST GAVE ME? PLUMBING. SOMETHING ELSE AND SOMETHING ELSE. EASIER TO JUST GIVE THEM A RECONCILIATION OF THE MOVEMENT. YEAH, I'LL SEND YOU THE RECONCILIATION ON THAT. THAT WOULD BE MUCH EASIER FOR ME TO. YEAH, JUST SOME SOMETHING THAT MAKES IT A LITTLE EASIER FOR US TO GET OUR HEAD AROUND WHAT THAT IS. AND THEN I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION ABOUT YOUR SAFETY AND SECURITY EQUIPMENT.

YOU'VE GOT LISTED. IT'S A JUMP FROM 63,000 UP TO 651,000. THAT INCREASE THE $188,000. AND YOUR YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT IS AXON CONTRACT FOR BODY CAMERAS. YEAH. ORIGINALLY THE AXON CONTRACT WAS

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AND THE AMOUNT IS $588,000. IS THAT WHAT IT COSTS US FOR THE LICENSE OR THE ONGOING EXPENSE AT THAT? I MEAN, IF WE PAID FOR IT ALREADY, WHAT'S THIS, $588,000. THAT'S A COMBINATION OF THE MAINTENANCE AND ALSO THE REPLACING CAMERAS. BUT I THINK THERE ARE BODY CAMERAS. I THINK THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS INVOLVED IN THAT. RIGHT. PROBABLY. YEAH. WE CAN JUST DROP THAT IN WHEN YOU SEND. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. JUST TO HAVE A BETTER SENSE OF THAT ONE THAT IT LOOKED LIKE QUITE A NUMBER. OKAY. GREAT. COUNCILMAN BHAJAN. MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU. I'M DEFERRING TO COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS. SHE'S HAVING TROUBLE GETTING HER COMPUTER. SO, COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS, THANK YOU. SORRY FOR MY TARDINESS, BUT YOU. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE THAT YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY ANSWERED, ASKED, OR ANYBODY ELSE HAS ASKED THESE QUESTIONS.

THANKS FOR BEING HERE. THE OFFICERS. IS THERE SOMEWHERE IN THE BUDGET WHERE YOU ASKED FOR MORE MONEY FOR LIKE IF IT'S AN OFFICER WITH 300 INMATES? THAT'S FOR THAT'S JUST FOR AN EXAMPLE, RIGHT. FOR SHORT STAFFED. WELL, WE'RE, WE'RE I'M NOT GOING TO SAY WE'RE SHORT STAFFED. WE'RE NOT OPTIMAL STAFF, BUT THAT THE FOP JUST NEGOTIATED BOTH OF THE BOTH OF THEIR CONTRACTS ON THAT.

SO THERE IS THINGS IN THE CONTRACT, OBVIOUSLY THE CONTRACT SIGNED THAT WILL INCENTIVIZE WORKING, VOLUNTEERING TO WORK IN FOR SECURITY, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF OUR BIGGEST THINGS OF NEED THAT WILL GIVE YOU DOUBLE TIME. ALL THE INCENTIVES FOR THE OFFICERS ARE NEGOTIATED IN THE CONTRACT. OKAY. AND IS THAT DOES THAT GO THE SAME FOR THE NURSES BEING ABLE TO GIVE MEDS AT, AT, YOU KNOW, DOING AN ADEQUATE. THE NURSES IS THE NURSING STAFF AND DOCTORS ARE ARE VENDOR. SO THERE'S NOTHING IN OUR CONTRACT OUTSIDE OF THEIR CONTRACT. AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE QUESTION WAS AS FAR AS SOMETHING INCENTIVIZING THEM. NO, JUST AS FAR AS FUNDING THE NEEDS, BECAUSE IF IT'S A NEED FOR IT, I DEFINITELY WANT TO ADVOCATE FOR THE NEEDS. OH, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T HAVE OUR OFFICERS THAT ARE THERE IN THOSE TYPE OF CONDITIONS THAT IT'S JUST ONE STAFF, YOU KNOW, WITH 300 INMATES, EVERYBODY KIND OF NEEDS TO BE SAFE. SO IS THERE SOMETHING IN THERE ASKING FOR MORE FUNDING OR IS THAT JUST A, YOU KNOW, NOT ENOUGH STAFF? I, I WILL ANSWER THIS LIKE THIS. OUR CONTRACTS WERE NEGOTIATED AND ALL THAT WAS OVER A COURSE OF OVER A YEAR. OUR BUILDING IS BETTER STAFFED PER RATIO OFFICER TO INMATE THAN ANYONE IN THE STATE. OKAY. GREAT. ANY FINAL QUESTIONS, COLLEAGUES? I DON'T SEE ANY MORE QUESTIONS IN THE QUEUE. SO, CHIEF, THIS BRINGS US TO THE END OF OUR PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WE'RE GOING TO FINISH, WHAT, 15 MINUTES EARLY. WE'RE GOING TO LET YOU OFF THE HOOK.

AND UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO ADD. YEAH. SOMEONE WAS ASKING ABOUT THE ONE OF THE JOB EARLIER. I THINK WE'RE HIRING. SO IF YOU IF YOU WANT TO COME OVER WE'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO TAKE IT. GREAT. BUT THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. WE'LL TAKE A SHORT BREAK AS, AS SOON AS THE NEXT GROUP IS IN THE ROOM, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND BEGIN OUR NEXT SECTION. SO WE'LL WATCH FOR THE OFFICE OF VIOLENCE PREVENTION. THANK YOU. FIVE MINUTES. THANK, COMMISSIONER.

CONSOLIDATION. YEAH. THE DEPARTMENT.

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THESE FUNDS WILL BE SPLIT BETWEEN THREE AREAS WITHIN LOUISVILLE. THAT WILL BE ONE SPECIFICALLY FOR THE RUSSELL NEIGHBORHOOD, ONE FOR THE PARK HILL ALGONQUIN AREA, AND THEN ANOTHER FOR NEIGHBORHOOD ON OR IN SOUTH LOUISVILLE. AFTER BUDGET APPROVAL, ORGANIZATIONS WILL SUBMIT AN RFP AND THEN TO QUALIFY FOR THAT GRANT, THREE ORGANIZATIONS WITHIN EACH NEIGHBORHOOD MUST, OR AT LEAST THREE ORGANIZATIONS MUST SUBMIT A COMBINED PROPOSAL TELLING US NOT ONLY HOW THEY WILL WORK TOGETHER AND SHARE FUNDS, BUT ALSO HOW THEIR PROGRAMS ACTUALLY SUPPORT ONE ANOTHER, HOW THEIR DATA WILL BE USED TO ACTUALLY DETERMINE FUTURE PROGRAMING. AND ALSO, ALL OF THOSE PROGRAMS MUST BE PHYSICALLY LOCATED IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THEY WILL BE SERVING. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN PURVIS. COUNCILMAN WINKLER, THANK YOU. CAN YOU TELL ME, GIVEN SORT OF ALL THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, WE'VE SEEN FINALLY STARTING TO SEE A SIGNIFICANT DECREASE IN OUR HOMICIDE RATE, AND I WANT TO COMPLIMENT YOU AND YOUR TEAM FOR YOUR ROLE IN THAT. THANK YOU. THINKING ABOUT YOUR BUDGET AND THE PROGRAMS THAT YOU'VE RUN, DO YOU HAVE ANY SENSE FOR WHICH PROGRAMS ARE THE MOST EFFECTIVE IN IMPACTING THAT NUMBER? YES WE DO. SO A LOT OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE, NOT ONLY IN PROGRAMMATIC ADVANCES OVER THE PAST, I WOULD SAY TWO YEARS, WE'VE ALSO REALLY ROBUSTLY EXPANDED OUR DATA COLLECTION AND ANALYSIS TEAM, AND THAT HAS BEEN SOMETHING WHERE WE'VE LISTENED TO THE CONCERNS OF THE COUNCIL AND MADE SURE THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE FOCUSED ON. WE

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CHAIR. THANKS FOR BEING HERE TODAY. HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN IN THIS ROLE? I BELIEVE ABOUT FIVE WEEKS. FIVE WEEKS? OKAY. COULD. OKAY, SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE SITES OF THE CVA. I KNOW MY COLLEAGUE DIDN'T ASK FOR THEM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO KNOW THOSE SITES. CERTAINLY. THAT IS WE HAVE THE NEWBERG SITE, OUR PARK HILL SITE WAS COMBINED WITH THE ALGONQUIN SITE AS WELL. AND. I'M SORRY. AND THEN WE HAVE A SITE IN RUSSELL AS WELL. OKAY. I'LL WAIT. OH, AND TAYLOR BERRY, I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO YOU SAID THAT GUN VIOLENCE HAVE DECREASED. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE YOUR DATA IS COMING FROM. IS IT COMING FROM YOUR CASEWORKERS OR IS IT COMING FROM THE NON PROFITS THAT YOU'RE PARTNERING WITH. AND WHO ARE THOSE NONPROFITS. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE DECLINE IN HOMICIDES AND NON-FATAL SHOOTINGS IN THE CITY, THAT IS DONE IN TANDEM WITH LMPD. SO WHEN THOSE REPORTS COME IN THAT IS THEN REPORTED TO OUR GUN VIOLENCE DATABASE THAT'S PUBLICLY AVAILABLE AND WAS UNVEILED IN NOVEMBER YEAR BEFORE LAST. SO WE LOOK AT THOSE STATISTICS, WE ALSO, OF COURSE, ARE COLLECTING THE KPIS FROM ALL THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH, BUT THEY'RE REALLY REPORTING THINGS. SO LIKE THE CBI ORGANIZATIONS, THEY'RE REPORTING INTERACTIONS THAT THEY'RE HAVING INTERVENTIONS THAT THEY'RE MAKING. SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT HOMICIDES AND NON-FATAL, THAT'S USUALLY FROM POLICE REPORTS, REPORTS FROM THE HOSPITAL NOT TO CUT YOU OFF. SO IT'S NOT COMING FROM YOU. IT'S COMING FROM LMPD RIGHT. FROM

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THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN JOBS OF OUR EXECUTIVE ADMINISTRATOR OVER RESEARCH, IVAN BENITEZ. OKAY. SO YOU PARTNER WITH DO YOU PARTNER WITH GOODWILL AND HOW DO YOU PARTNER WITH THEM FOR THE FOR THE FUNDING THAT THEY GET? SO GOODWILL HAS THE CONTRACT OR THE GRANT AGREEMENT FOR THE CVI SITES? IN ALL FOUR OF THOSE LOCATIONS? THERE'S ONE ARP GRANT THAT COVERS ALGONQUIN, PARK HILL, RUSSELL AND TAYLOR BERRY. AND THEN THE NEWBURGH NEWBURGH SITE IS PAID FOR BY A SEPARATE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE GRANT. OKAY. RIGHT. SO THE MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE GAVE GOODWILL IS WHAT'S USED FOR PARK HILL, TAYLOR, BERRY, RUSSELL AND ALGONQUIN. RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT THE GOODWILL IS SUPPOSED TO BE USING IT FOR, RIGHT? OR IS THAT COMING OUT OF Y'ALL'S BUDGET? NO, BOTH OF THE ALL OF THE SITES ARE CURRENTLY ALL THE CVI SITES ARE EITHER ARP FUNDED OR FUNDED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. FEDERAL GRANT. OKAY. AND I'VE GOT ONE MORE QUESTION. AND THEN I'M I'M GOING TO GET OUT OF HERE. SO DO YOU ALL GIVE VOUCHERS TO FAMILIES AND DO YOU RELOCATE FAMILIES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, OR ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH ANY OF THAT YET? SO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OVER INTERVENTION SERVICES. OR THEIR VOUCHERS THAT WE CAN CONNECT PEOPLE WITH. IS THAT CORRECT? WHO WOULD YOU CONNECT WITH ON THE. 3G AND ALL OF THAT? SO ACTUALLY ALL THE RELOCATION SERVICES AND ANY VOUCHERS, WE ACTUALLY REFER PEOPLE TO GVI. OKAY. SO THOSE HAVE BEEN MOVED TO GVI BECAUSE I KNOW YOU, YOU ALL WERE, YOU KNOW, GIVING OUT VOUCHERS AND SO DO YOU. DO ANY PLACEMENT. IS THERE ANY FUNDING IN, YOU KNOW, UNDER YOU ALL THAT RELOCATES A. SOMEBODY THAT'S BEEN A FAMILY THAT'S BEEN VICTIMIZED OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE? IS THERE ANY FUNDING TO GET THEM OUT OF HERE IF THEY'RE TRYING TO RELOCATE, IF THEIR LIFE IS ON THE LINE, IS THERE ANYTHING, YOU KNOW IN THIS PROGRAM THAT THAT DOES THAT WE DO NOT HAVE THOSE SERVICES? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. PLEASE LET THE RECORD REFLECT.

WE'RE JOINED IN CHAMBERS BY COUNCILWOMAN PARISH. RIGHT NEXT IN THE QUEUE. COUNCILMAN.

COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL. I'M SO SORRY. I THOUGHT SOMEBODY ELSE WAS GOING BEFORE ME. HE HAD ASKED A COUPLE. AND YOU HAVEN'T BEEN IN YET? OH, IF YOU'D LIKE, I CAN COME BACK. NO, I WILL, WE'LL JUST DO THIS. SO EARLIER YOU HAD SPOKE ABOUT A PROGRAM IN WHICH YOU'RE ASKING GROUPS THAT REPRESENT THREE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS TO SUBMIT PROPOSALS, TALKING ABOUT HOW THEY WORK TOGETHER. TO RECEIVE A GRANT. CAN YOU TELL ME HOW MUCH MONEY WAS IN THAT IS DEDICATED TOWARDS THOSE GRANTS? THAT IS 350,000. AND YOU HAD IDENTIFIED SOUTH LOUISVILLE AS AN AREA. AND I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SOUTH LOUISVILLE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS ADJACENT TO CHURCHILL DOWNS AND IS A SMALL GEOGRAPHIC AREA RIGHT THERE AND NOT SOUTH LOUISVILLE, WHICH WE'VE SEEMED TO HAVE CONTENTION ON WHERE THOSE BOUNDARIES ARE THIS BUDGET SEASON. SO I AM GETTING MORE CLARIFICATION ON THE GEOGRAPHIC AREAS THAT WE DO NEED TO PUT THAT RFP OUT FOR THEN. BUT YES, I BELIEVE THAT IS MORE ACCURATE. OKAY. LOOKING AT YOUR ARP FUNDING, IT, YOU HAVE SOMETHING LIKE $17 MILLION LEFT IN ARP FUNDING THAT NEEDS TO BE DISPERSED AND SPENT BY THE END OF 20, BY THE END OF FISCAL YEAR 26, DO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO PAY THAT AND IMPLEMENT THAT PROGRAMING? AND THEN HOW MANY OF THOSE PROGRAMS SHOULD WE ANTICIPATE CONTINUING COMING OUT OF OVER BUDGET? SO ACTUALLY, EVERYTHING HAS BEEN OBLIGATED AND EITHER PUT INTO SALARIES OR INTO GRANTS OR CONTRACTS. SO EVERYTHING HAS A PLAN AND THAT IS SPENDING ON TRACK BY THE END OF JUNE 30TH THIS FISCAL YEAR, JUST ABOUT 70% OF ALL OF OUR ARP PROJECTS WILL BE COMPLETED WITH ALL OF THEIR FUNDS EXPENDED. AND THEN ACTUALLY BY DECEMBER 31ST

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CORRECTIONS LMPD OVP EMS, NOW THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY SAFETY, WHO WE'RE GOING TO IDENTIFY WHERE THEY BELONG AND WHAT THEY OVERSEE. DO YOU ALL MEET ON A REGULAR BASIS IN ORDER TO TALK ABOUT WHAT INITIATIVES YOU' A WORKING ON, WHAT GROUPS YOU'RE WORKING ON,ND HOW YOU WANT TO WORK TOGETHER IN ORDER TO, YOU KNOW, TAP INTO WHAT YOU'RE HEARING IS, YOU KNOW, ORGANIZATIONS AND THEN HOW THAT CAN BE MADE INTO A PLAN TO CURB VIOLENCE PREVENTION. OH, ABSOLUTELY. IF NOT EVERY DAY, FOUR TIMES A WEEK, I HAVE AN IN PERSON MEETING WITH HER AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK. SO YES, IT'S CONSTANT COMMUNICATION. AND SO SHE WOULD BE THE ONE RESPONSIBLE FOR GATHERING ALL OF THE INFORMATION FROM ALL OF THOSE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AND THEN TAPPING INTO YOU AS WELL. SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE SHE'S THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF VIOLENCE PREVENTION. NO, THE DIRECTOR POSITION REPORTS TO HER. SO SHE'S THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OVER THAT. JUST WONDERING WHERE SHE'D SHOW UP ON AN ORG CHART. GOTCHA. I THINK THAT WOULD BE DIRECTLY THROUGH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE ON ÖVP'S ORG CHART, BUT I CAN GET MORE CLARIFICATION ON THAT AS WELL. SURE. BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT HER POSITION IS FUNDED THROUGH YOUR OFFICE. CORRECT OR GVI. CORRECT. BUT I'M NOT SEEING IT IN THE MAYOR'S. SO I DO KNOW THAT TRYING TO TRACK IT DOWN. OH SORRY. IN THE SAFE LOUISVILLE PLAN, THERE IS ALSO AN ORG CHART THAT'S INCLUDED THERE AS WELL. AND I THINK THAT DOES HAVE HER POSITION. I BELIEVE THAT IS INCLUDED IN THERE. THANK YOU. THANKS, COUNCILMAN HUDSON. THANK YOU.

CHAIR, JUST TO PUT A LITTLE BIT OF A FINER POINT ON COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL'S LINE OF QUESTIONING, THE $17 MILLION OF ARP FUNDING THAT IS SET TO EXPIRE. CAN YOU. HOW MANY HEADCOUNT DOES THAT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE WORKING ON ON ARP PROJECTS, I GUESS IS MY QUESTION. WELL, OR IS IT PARTIAL OF SEVERAL PEOPLE OR HAVE DEDICATED HEADCOUNT TO THAT OR WHAT? WELL, THERE'S REALLY A MIX. YOU KNOW, THE CVI PROGRAMS ALONE HAVE MORE THAN A DOZEN EMPLOYEES THAT ARE INVOLVED THERE. MANY. I CAN GET YOU MORE DIRECT NUMBERS ON ALL OF THOSE PROGRAMS. BUT I MEAN, IT IS MANY, MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE EMPLOYED BY ARP PROGRAMS. NOW, THAT IS SOMETHING WHERE WE ALWAYS DISCUSS THAT WITH GRANTEES AND ORGANIZATIONS, AS THOSE PROGRAMS ARE COMING TO A CLOSE, MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE PLANNING FOR THAT. SO IT IS NOT SOMETHING WHERE ANYONE'S SURPRISED. BUT YES, I THINK THERE WOULD BE JOBS INVOLVED IN THAT. OKAY. SO WHAT I, WHAT I THINK I HEARD YOU JUST SAY IS ONCE THOSE DOLLARS END, THOSE JOBS END AS WELL. YES. OKAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN LEININGER. THANK YOU. CHAIR. IDENTIFIED THREE AREAS AS A SORT OF PRIORITY NEED THAT AREN'T CURRENTLY COVERED BY COMMUNITY VIOLENCE INTERVENTION OR ABC.

COULD YOU IDENTIFY THOSE THREE AREAS, PLEASE? DID YOU ASK FOR ME TO IDENTIFY THOSE AREAS? YES.

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HOW MUCH DO WE ANTICIPATE IS ONGOING EXPENSE THAT THAT YOU WOULD RECOMMEND WE CONTINUE, OR IS IT TOO SOON TO SAY, WELL, I THINK I WOULD LIKE SOME TIME TO PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING FOR YOU ON THAT, BUT I THINK ONE THAT IMMEDIATELY POPS TO MIND THAT HAS BEEN NOT ONLY LOW COST, BUT I THINK VERY INFLUENTIAL IS OUR COMMUNITY SANCTUARY PROJECT, AND THAT'S SOMETHING WHERE WE TRY TO, AT LEAST TWICE A MONTH, RESPOND TO INCIDENTS OF VIOLENCE ACROSS THE CITY, WHERE WE SET UP A PLACE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S BEEN AFFECTED BY HOMICIDE, AND WE TRY TO PROVIDE SOME FOOD. WE TRY TO PROVIDE SOME FREE MENTAL HEALTH CARE. WE TRY TO PROVIDE FAITH SERVICES FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THAT. AND THAT'S SOMETHING WHERE WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO HELP THE COMMUNITY SHOW THAT THE AREAS THAT ARE AFFECTED BY THIS VIOLENCE ARE NOT TAKEN OVER BY THAT AND INSTEAD STILL BELONG TO THEM. AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO CONNECT WITH THE COMMUNITY AND REALLY TAKE THOSE PLACES BACK. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S 100% ARP FUNDED, BUT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE THAT CONTINUE ON PAST THAT. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE SHOULD ENGAGE SOME OF OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS WITH. I KNOW A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, I MET WITH THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION OF LOUISVILLE, AND ONE OF THEIR PRIMARY FOCUSES LOOKING FORWARD WAS, YOU KNOW, WHEN ARP MONEY RUNS OUT, WHAT ARE PROGRAMS THAT THEY SHOULD THAT BASICALLY THE COMMUNITY SHOULD LOOK TO PRIORITIZE, TO FUND, TO ADDRESS THE VIOLENCE ISSUE. SO I THINK WE PROBABLY WANT TO CONNECT WITH THEM AS WELL TO SEE WHERE THAT STANDS. AND YOU KNOW, THAT MAY THINGS THAT WE ARE UNABLE OR CHOOSE NOT TO FUND, THAT MIGHT BE A FOUNDATION THAT THAT IS CAPABLE OF FUNDING SOME OF THOSE. SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD PUT A PIN IN AND THINK ABOUT. THE LAST QUESTION I HAD IS, CAN WE GET A COPY OF THE RFP FOR THE NEW $350,000 MIDDLE SCHOOL PROGRAM? YES, ABSOLUTELY. COUNCILMAN HAWKINS, THANK YOU. CHAIR. HOW MANY OUTREACH WORKERS AND CASE MANAGERS DO YOU HAVE AND HOW MANY CASELOADS DO THEY HAVE EACH? OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE DON'T KNOW. WHO. IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT, WE CAN WE CAN MOVE ON. YOU CAN JUST GET IT TO ME EIGHT CASEWORKERS AND THEN THEY'VE APPROXIMATELY 15 AND CAN GO UP TO 20 CASES A PERSON OKAY. SO YOU HAVE EIGHT CASEWORKERS AND THEY ALL HAVE 15 CASES APIECE. RIGHT. SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE. THAT'S SOMEWHERE AROUND THAT. YES. SO DO YOU KNOW THE RESULTS OF ANY OF THE PARTICIPANTS AND THERE ARE ANY AND THEIR INTERACTIONS LIKE DO YOU FOLLOW UP WITH YOUR CASEWORKERS TO KNOW WHERE THEY'RE AT? YOU KNOW, THE PROCESS, WHAT THE PROCESS LOOKS LIKE? YES, ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. THERE'S A PLAN THAT THEY FOLLOW. AND THEN ACTUALLY GRADUATING FROM THAT PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY HAVE STABILIZED AND THEN NO LONGER NEED OUR SERVICES. THAT'S SOMEBODY WHO THEN GRADUATES OUT OF THAT. SO DO THEY HAVE A LENGTHY DO THEY HAVE A LENGTH OF TIME TO STAY IN THAT PROGRAM? YES, I THINK THERE IS A TIME. 6 TO 18 MONTHS. OKAY.

AND I KNOW YOU SAID THAT GBI RELOCATES THEM. I BEG TO DIFFER. BUT BEING THE FACT THAT YOU SAID THAT THEY DO, CAN YOU TELL ME HOW MANY THAT YOU'VE REFERRED TO?

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AND THOSE WERE THE THREE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT I HAD SUGGESTED. IF WE COULD MOVE MORE SERVICES INTO. AND YES, I HAVE BEEN OUT IN THE COMMUNITY WELL, NOT ONLY SINCE TAKING THIS ROLE, BUT ALSO BEFORE THIS ROLE AS I WAS ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF ADMINISTRATION. SO, YES, ESPECIALLY WITH OUR COMMUNITY SANCTUARY PROJECT ACTIVATIONS, BUT THEN ALSO JUST ATTENDING COMMUNITY MEETINGS, ATTENDING OUR ANTI-VIOLENCE COALITION MEETINGS, AND THEN ALSO THROUGH CANVASING FOR A LOT OF THESE THINGS AS WELL. I REALLY GET TO EXPLORE A LOT OF THESE COMMUNITIES. WELL, I WANT YOU TO GET TOO DEEP INTO THAT. SO YOU SAID PARKLAND, WHICH IS MY DISTRICT. I'VE NOT SEEN YOU AT ONE COMMUNITY MEETING YET. I'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU. AND WHEN YOU PLAN TO BE THERE, LET ME KNOW. ANYTHING THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING. YOU CAN SEND. SEND IT TO ME AND I'LL PUT IT IN MY NEWSLETTER. AND THEN I ATTEND COUNCILWOMAN PURVIS'S COMMUNITY MEETINGS A LOT. WE LOVE TO SEE YOU AT OURS. NOT NOT NOT THE ACTUAL WORKERS. YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN PIERCE. RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. APOLOGIES FOR MY LATENESS. I'LL KEEP MY QUESTIONS SIMPLE. I THINK I JUST HAVE TWO. ONE OF THE THINGS I LIKED ABOUT THE OFFICE OF SAFE AND HEALTHY NEIGHBORHOODS WAS THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF ACCESS TO FUNDING FOR THE SMALLER GROUPS THAT ARE GETTING OUT TO THE COMMUNITIES AND DOING THE WORK THAT'S CENTERED AROUND THE ROOT CAUSES AND DIRECT WORK. AND I'M REALLY CONCERNED BECAUSE WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE EAF AND ALL OF THAT, A LOT OF GROUPS ARE LOSING MEANINGFUL FUNDING. SO I JUST WANTED TO KNOW, IS THERE ONE, SINCE YOU'VE BEEN HERE FIVE WEEKS? I'LL TAKE IT EASY ON YOU. WHAT'S YOUR ELEVATOR SPEECH FOR THE NAME CHANGE. AND HOW MUCH HAS THE REBRANDING COST YOUR BUDGET? AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION IS, ARE THERE INITIATIVES THAT WILL WORK TO OFFER LOW BARRIER FUNDING TO SOME OF THESE ENTITIES? BECAUSE MY CONCERN IS THAT A LOT OF THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE CAN BE UNDONE. IF WE'RE NOT INVESTING FUNDING INTO THESE ENTITIES THAT ARE DOING THE WORK FOR SMALL AND LARGE. I SEE VOA, I WENT THROUGH THE LIST, I SEE THE USUAL FOLKS. BUT YEAH, JUST THAT'S MY TWO QUESTIONS. OH THANK YOU. AND I WOULD ASK IF I CAN GO BACK AND DO THE MATH ON THE COST OF THE CHANGE. IT'S MAINLY BEEN THROUGH THE COST OF NEW UNIFORMS. THAT'S BEEN MOST OF IT. BUT I CAN DEFINITELY GET YOU THOSE FIGURES FOR THE REBRAND. I THINK THAT THE CHANGE TO THE NAME OFFICE OF VIOLENCE PREVENTION, ESPECIALLY WITH THE SO IN THE SAFE LOUISVILLE PLAN, IT DOES OUTLAY THE FACT THAT OUR OFFICE IS TAKING OVER ALL THE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT OCEAN HAD AND THEN ADDING MORE AND A LOT OF THOSE ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITIES WILL BE THROUGH COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION AND PROVIDING A SPACE FOR COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS TO GATHER AND EXCHANGE INFORMATION AND THEN WORK ALONG WITH OVP AS WELL. I THINK WITH THE CLOSEOUT OF A LOT OF ARP FUNDING, I THINK THAT THE. OVP WILL BECOME LESS OF A GRANTOR. HOWEVER, WE'RE ALWAYS A PARTNER AND ALWAYS TRYING TO PROVIDE AS MANY SERVICES AS POSSIBLE, BUT THAT INCLUDES CAPACITY BUILDING. SO FOR SMALLER ORGANIZATIONS, EVEN IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO OFFER FUNDING THAT WE USED TO, WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO UTILIZE THE EXPERIENCE THAT ALL OF OUR STAFF HAS AS SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS IN INTERVENTION, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, YOUTH ENGAGEMENT, NOT ONLY IN HELPING PEOPLE TO DEVELOP PROGRAMS, PROGRAM WRITING, BUT WRITE LETTERS OF SUPPORT IF THEY'RE PURSUING FEDERAL FUNDING. ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP THEM WITHIN AND WITHOUT A MONETARY GRANT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN HERNDON. YES, SIR. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

AND THANK YOU FOR COMING, AND I I'M OVER HERE. CONGRATULATIONS ON THE WHAT A ROLE YOU AND YOUR STAFF PLAYED ON THE REDUCTION OF THOSE NUMBERS. THANK YOU FOR THAT. I DO HAVE ONE CRITICISM.

LAST YEAR, YOU HELD YOUR GUN VIOLENCE SUMMIT AT THE MARRIOTT EAST AND HURSTBOURNE LANE, WHICH

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OKAY. AND THAT WELL, LAST TIME I TALKED TO THEM AT GOODWILL, THEY THEY THOUGHT THAT THEY COULD HANDLE THE 400. WE DISCUSSED THAT SPECIFICALLY THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO IT IN THAT LARGE ROOM. BUT THEY CAN WE IS THAT IS THAT A DECISION BEEN MADE ON THE LOCATION? NO, NO, THAT THEY HAVE NOT BEEN CHOSEN YET. OKAY. OR IF THE DECISION FOR THAT THAT SUMMIT BEEN MADE YET. NO, I'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT IF I COULD AND JUST AND THEM AS WELL. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FOLKS WHO ARE MOST AFFECTED HAVE THE EASIEST ACCESS TO PARTICIPATE, AND THAT J-TOWN WAS NOT THE BEST CHOICE FOR THEM. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT POINT. I LOOK FORWARD TO MEETING WITH YOU. YES. THANK YOU COLLEAGUES. AND IF I COULD REMIND YOU, I'M LOOKING FOR BUDGET QUESTIONS IN HERE, SO I MAY AT SOME POINT, KIND OF TONGUE IN CHEEK AND NOT SO MUCH TONGUE IN CHEEK, SAY, HEY, WHERE'S THE BUDGET QUESTION IN THERE, COUNCILMAN PURVIS? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT I KNOW YOU'RE LOOKING FOR BUDGET QUESTIONS, BUT EVERYTHING LEADS UP TO THE BUDGET. OKAY, LIKE HOW MANY OF THIS, HOW MANY OF THAT? HOW MANY OUTREACH WORKERS DO YOU HAVE? EIGHT. EIGHT. OKAY. AND HOW MANY FAMILIES DOES EACH WORKER WORK WITH AND HOW OFTEN DO THEY INTERACT WITH THEIR CLIENTS? WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO GET YOU EXACT NUMBERS ON CURRENT CLIENTS, BUT I THINK IT'S ON AVERAGE 15 UP TO A MAXIMUM OF 20 AT A TIME. OKAY. HOW MANY CASEWORKERS, CASE MANAGERS AND OUTREACH CASE MANAGERS DO YOU HAVE AND CAN YOU IDENTIFY THEM. WELL, SO WE ONLY HAVE THE ACTUAL JOB TITLE I THINK IS OUTREACH COORDINATORS. AND THOSE ARE THE TEAM MEMBERS ON OUR INTERVENTION TEAM. OKAY. SO OKAY. AND I KNOW THAT MY COLLEAGUE, COUNCILMAN WINKLER, KIND OF TOUCHED ON THE ARP FUNDING. DO YOU HAVE A SUSTAINABILITY PLAN WHEN THAT FUNDING IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE? SO FOR THE CVI SITES THEMSELVES, I MEAN, WE WILL DUE TO THE COST OF EACH OF THOSE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL HAVE TO EITHER MAJORLY RESTRUCTURE TO COVER UNDER OUR CURRENT FUNDING, OR THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD NEED HELP WITH TO EXPAND JUST BECAUSE EACH ONE OF THOSE SITES WITH THE COST ON AVERAGE.

WELL, FOR THE FOUR SITES, $1.1 MILLION A YEAR WOULD TAKE A SUBSTANTIAL PART OF OUR OPERATING FUNDING. THE ABCS. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ARE MORE AFFORDABLE ON A YEARLY BASIS AT $30,000 A PIECE FOR THE SHORT, MEDIUM AND LONG TERM PLAN OVER A TOTAL OF THREE YEARS. BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE. BUT EVERY TIME THAT WE DO INCLUDE A PROGRAM THAT WE'RE OPERATING DIRECTLY OR WITH A PARTNER, THEN THAT IS, YOU KNOW, LESS MONEY THAT WE CAN GRANT OUT TO SMALLER ORGANIZATIONS AS WELL. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ALWAYS PART OF OUR PLANNING AND PART OF OUR, I GUESS, THE WEIGHING OF OUR OPTIONS. OKAY. I WANT TO PIGGYBACK ON COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS. SHE MENTIONED PROVIDING SERVICES TO RELOCATE FAMILIES THAT ARE IN DANGER. YOU SAID THAT RIGHT NOW, YEAR TO DATE, YOU'VE REFERRED THREE TO GBI. YES. AND I KNOW THAT COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS AND I, WE HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH A PROVIDER OF THESE SERVICES.

JOSHUA. COMMUNITY CONNECTORS, DO YOU WORK WITH THEM ON ANY CASES AT ALL? RIGHT. YEAH. YES, YES, YES WE WORK WITH JOSHUA COMMUNITY CONNECTORS OKAY. SO I KNOW THAT. A LOT OF TIMES THE PERSON THAT RUNS THIS PROGRAM, SHE'S HANDS ON WITH THE VICTIMS AND THE VICTIMS FAMILY. SO WHEN

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YES. OKAY. I'LL BE LOOKING FORWARD TO RECEIVING THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN SIMON, THEN. COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. A COUPLE QUESTIONS. FUNDING IS DRIVEN BY DATA. WE KNOW THAT. AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE THIS. WE'RE WE'RE BRAGGING ABOUT THE 30% DECREASE. DECREASE IN GUN VIOLENCE. WHAT'S THE WHAT IS THE DESCRIPTION OF GUN VIOLENCE? IF SOMEBODY PUTS A GUN IN SOMEBODY'S FACE AND TAKES THEIR CAR, IS THAT GUN VIOLENCE? SO WHAT WE'RE PARTICULARLY MEASURING IS HOMICIDES AND NON-FATAL SHOOTINGS AND NON-FATAL SHOOTINGS AND NON-FATAL AND SO SHOOTINGS ARE ARE PART OF THE EQUATION. NO MATTER IF YOU IF YOU IF YOU MISSED OR NOT, IT'S THAT'S PART OF THE EQUATION. NO. IF THE PERSON IS INJURED IN THE SHOOTING HAS TO BE INJURED.

CORRECT. SO I HAVE TO I HAVE TO INJURE THE PERSON AND DON'T. IF I MISSED HIM, THEN THAT THAT NUMBER IS NOT IN THERE. CORRECT. SO I, I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE, WE'RE FUNDING YOU WITH WITH THAT AND YOU'RE SAYING WE'RE SHORT WE'RE, WE'RE WE'RE TOUTING 30% DECREASE. WELL HOW MANY OF THOSE MISSED THE TARGET AND HOW MANY OF THAT VIOLENT CRIME WAS SOMEBODY STICKING A GUN IN SOME OLD LADY'S FACE AND TAKING HER CAR? SO I I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. OUR JUVENILES INCLUDED IN THIS DATA. YES THEY ARE. I THINK THAT'S IT. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN HAWKINS. THANK YOU. I KNOW YOU SAID THAT YOU WORK WITH 300 OF THE NONPROFITS.

I THINK IT'S WHAT YOU JUST TOLD MY COLLEAGUE, BUT IT'S JUST CRAZY BECAUSE ALL THE NONPROFITS ARE CALLING US SAYING, AIN'T NONE OF THEM GETTING FUNDED. SO IT'S JUST. WE NEED TO FIGURE THAT OUT. ALL 300 NONPROFITS THAT YOU'RE TOUCHING AND WORKING WITH, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT. BUT MAINLY YOU ALSO SAID ABOUT GVI, I GOTTA GET BACK ON THAT BECAUSE I'M STRUGGLING WITH THAT, BECAUSE I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT AND ITS WORK. SO FOR THIS GVI AND CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE THAT'S AT IN THE BUDGET WERE THE RELOCATING PART? IS THAT BECAUSE YOU SAID YOU REFER THEM TO GVI? RIGHT. SO I CAN SEE THIS IN GPB'S BUDGET OR IN YOUR BUDGET, RIGHT, TO RELOCATE. SO, COUNCILMAN, IF I MIGHT, I BELIEVE HE'S MADE A DISTINCTION BETWEEN THOSE THAT THEY OFFER GRANTS TO AND THOSE THAT THEY WORK WITH. RIGHT. BECAUSE HE'S TESTIFIED THAT HE WORKS WITH 300 AGENCIES, BUT HE HASN'T TESTIFIED THAT HE GIVES EACH OF THEM AGENCIES ANY DOLLAR AMOUNT. SO IF YOU COULD START, I THINK THAT MIGHT HELP US CLEAR UP SOME OF OUR CONFUSION. DO YOU SPEAK ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OUR WORK WITH AGENCIES? AGAIN, I THINK THIS GOES BACK TO COUNCILMAN PURVIS. THIS QUESTION AS WELL. WE WORK WITH AGENCIES VERSUS WE ARE OFFERING DIRECT FUNDS TO. AND THEN IT GETS TO AND I'M GOING TO THROW UP I'M OKAY. HE CAN GET TO THE GBI CONVERSATION. HE CAN SEND THAT OVER. WE DON'T GOTTA JUST WHICHEVER ONES YOU FUNDED, WHICHEVER ONES YOU JUST WORK WITH PARTNER WITH, YOU CAN JUST WHENEVER YOU GET SOME TIME, SEND THAT OVER. WE AIN'T GOTTA REVISIT THAT. BUT I WANT BACK ON

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YES. THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET FOR 26. RIGHT. SO WHAT MONEY HAVE HAS HAVE YOU BEEN USING FOR THE THREE THAT YOU SAID YOU'VE ALREADY BEEN LOCATED. SO WE HAVEN'T UTILIZED ANY MONEY.

THOSE ARE THE WE HAVE REFERRED THREE PEOPLE TO GBI OKAY. SO YOU'VE DONE NO RELOCATIONS THEN RIGHT. NO OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU COUNCILMAN CHAPPELL. IN YOUR DOCUMENT YOU THERE'S FOUR PROGRAMS THAT ARE ADMINISTERED BY OVP. AND THOSE INCLUDE PIVOT TO PEACE THE REIMAGINED NETWORK YOUTH ENGAGEMENT SERVICES. AND I CAN'T FIND THE OTHER ONE RIGHT NOW. TRAUMA RESILIENT TRAUMA RESILIENT COMMUNITIES. HOWEVER THAT ONE'S NOT LISTED IN THE DOCUMENT THAT YOU HAD PROVIDED.

AND SO I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD GIVE A BREAKDOWN OF THE BUDGET WITHIN EACH OF THOSE PROGRAMS BECAUSE SPECIFICALLY, LIKE YOUTH ENGAGEMENT SERVICES WOULD LOVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT PERCENTAGE OR WHAT BIT OF YOUR BUDGET IS GOING TOWARDS THAT. SURE. SO THE TRAUMA RESILIENT COMMUNITIES, I'M SORRY THAT THAT SHOULD BE MENTIONED IN HERE, BUT THAT IS, I BELIEVE, ENTIRELY FUNDED BY A FEDERAL GRANT THROUGH SAMHSA. AND SO THAT VERY FEW, IF ANY, GENERAL FUND DOLLARS ARE GOING TOWARDS THAT. AS FOR THE OTHER PROGRAMS, SO SPECIFICALLY PIVOT TO PEACE, THE BUDGET IS ENTIRELY WAGES AND BENEFITS. THOSE GO TO OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH WORKERS AND THEIR SUPERVISORS, THE MANAGER AND THEN THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OVER THAT BRANCH. MANY OF THE YOUTH AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT FUNDS, THOSE COVER OUR REIMAGINED NETWORK AND THEN YOUTH ENGAGEMENT SERVICES. THOSE WILL INCLUDE SOME OF OUR GENERAL FUND. THAT IS, THREE OF OUR ANTI-VIOLENCE COALITIONS ARE FUNDED THROUGH THOSE GENERAL FUNDS. AND THEN THAT INCLUDES ANY SORT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENTS THAT WE WILL DO. THAT INCLUDES FUNDING THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON IN PARTNERSHIP WITH PARKS FOR SOME SUMMER PROGRAMING THIS YEAR. AND THEN THAT ALSO BREAKS DOWN INTO SUPPLIES, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT WE'RE USING IN THE LAST FISCAL YEAR. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'VE STILL GOT ABOUT A MONTH OF IT LEFT, BUT HOW MANY CHILDREN UNDER THE AGE OF 18 HAS THE OFFICE OF VIOLENCE PREVENTION WORKED WITH? I WOULD LIKE TO GO THROUGH THOSE SMARTSHEETS THAT WE HAVE THAT REPORTS ALL THOSE KPIS AND GET YOU A TOTAL NUMBER OF THAT. SURE. AND TALKING ABOUT THE CHANGE THE NAME FROM THE OFFICE OF SAFE AND HEALTHY NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE OFFICE OF VIOLENCE PREVENTION. YOU KNOW, I THINK A ROOT CAUSE IS THE ABSENCE OF HEALTHY COMMUNITIES AND HEALTHY NEIGHBORHOODS. AND SO HOW IS THIS BUDGET THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING GOING TO HELP STRENGTHEN NEIGHBORHOODS AS INDIVIDUAL COMMUNITIES AND EMPOWER THEM TO DO A LOT OF THE WORK ON THE GROUND LEVEL? IT SEEMS LIKE SO MUCH OF THIS IS GOING AFTER VERY SPECIFIC, TARGETED THINGS, WHICH MIGHT BE THE BEST APPROACH. BUT I THINK THAT IN ORDER TO, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, STOP THE BLEED, I THINK THAT PROVIDING A SAFE AND HEALTHY COMMUNITY IS PARAMOUNT. I AGREE, AND I THINK SOME OF THE THINGS I BELIEVE THE CVI PROJECTS VERY TARGETED AND REQUIRE VERY SPECIAL SKILLS TO RUN THOSE, BUT I THINK THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT WE DO THAT ALSO INCLUDE COMMUNITY VOICES, ESPECIALLY THE ANTI-VIOLENCE COALITIONS BEING MAINLY COMMUNITY BASED, AND THAT'S REALLY WHERE OUR EMPLOYEES ARE GOING OUT AND THEN CONVENING GROUPS FROM THE COMMUNITIES THAT THEY'RE WORKING IN AND THEN HELPING FACILITATE THEM TO IDENTIFY ISSUES IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS AND COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS THAT THEN WE CAN FACILITATE THERE. SO THOSE ARE MAJORITY COMMUNITY DRIVEN. AND THEN ALSO THE COMMUNITY SANCTUARY PROJECT THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT AS WELL. I MEAN,

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BUT THEN AT WHAT POINT DOES THE BALANCE SHIFT AND WE INVEST MORE IN VIOLENCE PREVENTION? YES.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND I FEEL THAT I'VE BEEN FOCUSING A LOT ON OUR REACTIVE SERVICES, MAINLY BECAUSE A LOT OF THOSE WERE FUNDED BY AARP AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WILL BE CLOSING UP.

I HAVEN'T FOCUSED ON OUR PREVENTIVE SERVICES, AND A LOT OF THOSE DO TAKE PLACE WITH OUR YOUTH AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TEAM. AND MANY OF THOSE THINGS, EVEN INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, THE YOUTH COUNCIL THAT INTERACTS WITH THIS COUNCIL AS WELL. WE'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE A LOT OF THINGS WHERE WE ARE HELPING PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD NO CONTACT, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT WORLD AND REALLY HELPING TO DEVELOP LIFE SKILLS, PRO-SOCIAL BEHAVIORS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, TO HEAD THAT OFF BEFORE IT GETS THERE. SO WE DO TRY TO BALANCE THOSE THINGS BETWEEN PROACTIVE AND PREVENTION MEASURES AND REACTIVE INTERVENTION MEASURES AS WELL. AND ACTUALLY, IN THE MAYOR'S SAVE LOUISVILLE PLAN AS WELL, WITH THE THREE PILLARS THAT HE IDENTIFIED PREVENTION, INTERVENTION AND THEN ENFORCEMENT. AND I THINK WITH LMPD FOLKS ON ENFORCEMENT, AND I MEAN, I BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE BOTH PREVENTIVE AND REACTIVE MEASURES AS WELL. BUT WITH OUR OFFICE AND TRYING TO COORDINATE A LOT OF COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE IN THOSE SPACES AS WELL, WE ARE TRYING TO CHANGE THINGS BOTH BEFORE AN EVENT OCCURS AND AFTERWARDS, AND THEN WITH OUR TRAUMA RESILIENT COMMUNITIES, HELPING PEOPLE HEAL AFTER THAT AS WELL. SO REALLY, IT'S ALMOST A THREE TIERED REACTION TO VIOLENCE. IN ADDITION TO THAT, AS FAR AS PROVING THAT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT 30%, I DON'T THINK THAT'S THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I WOULD WANT TO CLAIM. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY A LONG TERM, WHOLE CITY, WHOLE COMMUNITY EFFORT THAT HAS GONE INTO THIS. I'D LIKE TO THINK THAT WE ABSOLUTELY HAD A PART IN THE GRANTING OF MONEY TO ORGANIZATIONS THAT NEEDED THAT. SOME OF THE ORGANIZATION THAT WE PROVIDED, OUR DIRECT SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDED TO INDIVIDUALS IN THE COMMUNITY. AND THEN THE OF COURSE, THE PREVENTION MEASURES THAT WE HAVE TAKEN IN PLACE, TAKEN PART IN AS WELL. BUT REALLY, I THINK THIS 30% THAT WE'RE SEEING THIS YEAR AND THE REDUCTIONS WE'VE SEEN OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS, IT'S REALLY EVERYBODY WHO'S BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS. AND THIS IS A DIRECT FOLLOW UP TO WHAT WAS JUST SAID. AND THEN I'LL STOP. YOU HAD SAID PART OF THE OF OPERATIONAL GUIDELINES OR NOT, YOU OR WHOEVER WROTE THIS LEAD INTERAGENCY COORDINATION AND ENCOURAGE WHOLE OF GOVERNMENT AND WHOLE OF CITY APPROACH. THAT KIND OF SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING THAT YOU HAD JUST SAID. BUT WHAT DOES WHOLE OF GOVERNMENT AND WHOLE OF CITY APPROACH MEAN? SO I THINK THAT SOME OF THE ADDITIONS IN OUR RESPONSIBILITIES, NOT ONLY THE

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THANK YOU. JUST WANT TO ASK, HAVE YOU EVER BEEN A VICTIM OF GUN VIOLENCE? YES. THAT'S UNFORTUNATE. I'M SO SORRY THAT YOU HAD EXPERIENCED THAT. ARE YOU IN A SAFE, PROTECTED AREA OR WHERE YOU LIVE OR WHERE YOU LIVE? SOME OF THE AREAS HAVE HIGH CRIME RATE IN THE AREA THAT YOU LIVE IN. SO THE AREA IN WHICH I LIVE, I DO NOT THINK HAS A VERY HIGH CRIME RATE. OKAY, OKAY. AND I'M GOING TO SAY THIS AND THIS IS JUST A STATEMENT I'M GOING TO MAKE WHENEVER THERE'S A SHOOTING IN OUR DISTRICTS, WE CATCH IT AS IF WE WERE THE PERPETRATOR. SO PEOPLE WANT ANSWERS. AND EVEN THOUGH 33, 33% IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TO BE PROUD OF, THESE PEOPLE ARE

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YOU ALSO HAVE ARP FUNDS THAT ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THIS BUDGET. CAN YOU DETAIL THE TOTAL FUNDING THAT YOU'LL BE MANAGING IN FY 26? THAT WOULD BE SO THE ARP FUNDING HAS ALREADY BEEN OBLIGATED. SO THOSE WILL JUST BE MONITORING THE PROGRAMMATIC AND COMPLIANCE PARTS OF THOSE AS THEY, YOU KNOW, APPROACH THEIR END DATE. SO AS FAR AS WILL THE $2 MILLION IN THE GRANTS AS WELL, THOSE HAVE EITHER BEEN PLANNED OUT SPECIFICALLY IN THE APPLICATIONS THAT WERE ACCEPTED, IN WHICH CASE THEN WE'RE JUST WORKING ON THE GRANTS OR THE SAME THING, JUST MONITORING THAT COMPLIANCE, MOVING ALONG WITH THOSE PROGRAMS. AS FAR AS THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET, JUST ABOUT HALF OF IT IS SALARIES AND BENEFITS. AND THEN ASIDE FROM THAT WOULD BE DISCRETIONARY. AND A LARGE PART OF THAT BEING OUR. THEY'VE CHANGED THE WHAT IS THE NEW EXTERNAL AGENCY FUND SPEND CATEGORY. YEAH. PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. SO THINGS THAT WE USE FOR OUTSIDE OF OUR OFFICE GRANTS AND CONTRACTS THAT WOULD COME FROM THE GENERAL. I WAS REALLY JUST LOOKING FOR THE TOTAL NUMBER. OH SURE. I WOULD SAY 6.5 MILLION PLUS TWO PLUS. AND I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE NOT LIKE A LOT OF THAT HAS BEEN OBLIGATED. IT'S JUST THE MONITORING. BUT SORT OF WHAT IS THE TOTALITY OF WHAT WE'RE INVESTING IN. VIOLENCE PREVENTION IS REALLY THE QUESTION. SO TOTAL IF WE'RE LOOKING IN LET ME GET YOU THE TOTAL FOR EVERY ARP PROJECT THAT'S STILL IN THAT, EVEN THE ONES THAT WILL BE ENDING SOON. SO I WOULD LIKE TO GET YOUR TOTAL OF THAT. THANK YOU. TWO LAST BUDGET QUESTIONS, COUNCILMAN HOPKINS, ONE OF THEM. THANK YOU. SO HOW ARE YOU GETTING HOW ARE YOU MARKETING? AND YOU KNOW, HOW ARE YOU GETTING REFERRALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT FOR THIS PROGRAM. SO HOW ARE YOU GETTING THE WORD OUT SAYING, HEY, WE GOT THIS PROGRAM. YOU KNOW WHAT IT OUTLINES. YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THAT PROCESS IF YOU KNOW, WORD OF MOUTH. THANK YOU. AND WOULD YOU EXPLAIN HOW THAT THE IMPLICATIONS ON THE BUDGET IN REGARD TO THAT. THANK YOU. YES. SO THAT TAKES PLACE THROUGH SEVERAL VENUES, INCLUDING THERE'S EVEN BEEN SEVERAL BILLBOARD CAMPAIGNS, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR TRAUMA RESILIENT COMMUNITIES AND THE PHONE NUMBERS THAT YOU CAN CALL FOR FREE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES.

WE'VE DONE ON THE GROUND CANVASING, WHICH I'VE BEEN A PART OF SEVERAL TIMES AS WELL, TRYING TO BRING PEOPLE INTO MANY OF OUR COMMUNITY SANCTUARY PROJECT EVENTS AND OTHER OTHER PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE HAD, SOCIAL MEDIA, EMAIL LIST SERVES WORD OF MOUTH. THAT'S ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING THAT WE DO AS WELL. TRYING TO MEET WITH. IS THAT IN ONE LINE ITEM, OR WILL WE FIND THAT IN SEVERAL? SAY THAT AGAIN, IS THAT IN IS THAT MARKETING PIECE IN ONE LINE ITEM OR WE FIND THAT IN SEVERAL LINE ITEMS. SO THAT WOULD BE BETWEEN ADVERTISING PROMOTIONAL ITEMS AND THEN SPECIAL ROOM RENTAL. THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD ACTUALLY GET LOCATIONS. GREAT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CHAPPELL. OKAY, I HAD ONE LAST QUESTION THEN. IT LOOKS LIKE WE MIGHT FINISH VERY NEARLY ON TIME. YOU HAD A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT EXTERNAL AGENCY GRANTS THAT WERE AWARDED LAST YEAR.

FIVE ACTUALLY HAD $820,000, SO IT WAS QUITE A FEW. BUT OF THOSE GRANTS, FIVE OF THEM HAVE NOT HAD ANY DISBURSEMENTS AT ALL IN FY 25. AND I'M WONDENG IF, IF IT'S LIKELY THAT WE WILL FINISH DIURSEMENTS BEING MADE. THERE WAS A $10,000 GRANT TO ACE. THERE'S A 1000RANT TO TE OF HOPE MINISTRIES, A $10,000 GRAN TO SAAT A TO VOLUNTEERSFMERICA.

NEF THOSEAVE HAVEECEIVED ANY FUNDS YET THROUGH THOSE GRANTS. IS IT LIKELY THAT THOSE AGENCIES WEREN'T ABLE TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT THEY ORIGINALLY THOUGHT THEY COULD? POSSIBLY, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GIVE AS MUCH MONEY AS THEY NEEDED. BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE MONEY HASN'T GONE OUT. IS IT LIKELY THE MONEY'S NOT GOING OUT AT THIS POINT? I WOULD SAY IT IS PROBABLY LIKELY THAT IT WOULDN'T GO OUT TO THEM. NOW, I WOULD LIKE TO GET YOU THE PARTICULAR

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THANK YOU. AND AGAIN, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, NO REFLECTION ON THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR THE LAST FIVE AND A HALF WEEKS. WE SHOULD KEEP THAT AT TOP AND CENTER. AND BUT WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT A LOT OF TIMES THESE GRANTS, IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE ASK FOR THE CHANGE IN THE PROCESS THIS YEAR. A LOT OF TIMES WE OFFER THE GRANT AND WHAT THEY ARE OFFERED IS LESS THAN WHAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY USE TO ACCOMPLISH THEIR GOALS. SO I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE THAT

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