May 07, 2025 Ad Hoc Committee on Efficiency of Boards and Commissions

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THAT IT'S GOOD TO BE HERE. HOW ARE YOU? I'M GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. FOR HAVING. ME AROUND. FOR YOUR. TWO PAPERS EACH. TWO PAPERS EACH. OKAY. ONE. OH, WAIT FOR MY NEXT TWO.

RIGHT. WHATEVER YOU WANT. OH, OKAY. AWESOME. OKAY.

YEAH. NO NO NO NO, ABSOLUTELY. I NEED TO MEET THE PERSON. YEAH, I GET THAT. SO I'M KIND OF. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE. BUT WE NEED TO CHECK IT TODAY. AND WE DID GET THAT. I'M GONNA HAVE OLIVIA TO COUNTER WITH THAT INFORMATION BECAUSE I'M JUST NOW COMING UP TO ME. BUT SHE'LL TELL YOU EVERYTHING, AND SHE'LL TELL YOU TO TAKE IT. OKAY? TESTING FOR WEBEX. TESTING FOR.

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[Call to Order]

[Roll Call]

[1. ID 25-0272     BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS OVERVIEW Tree Advisory Committee Air Pollution Control District Board, Rachel Hamilton Hazardous Materials Board Solid Waste aka 109 Board]

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THEY ARE UNDER A LOUISVILLE METRO ORDINANCE. THEY MEET ON THE THIRD WEDNESDAY OF EVERY ODD MONTH. AND THERE'S ONE VACANCY, AND THERE'S A MAXIMUM NUMBER OF 15 MEMBERS. FULL DISCLOSURE I AM A MEMBER AS OF THIS YEAR ON THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND I'M THRILLED TO BE THERE. BUT WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MISS SULLIVAN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL. AND AS COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL SAID IN 2017, THE PUBLIC TREE PROTECTION ORDINANCE WAS PASSED BY METRO COUNCIL. IT'S ORDINANCE NUMBER 221 SERIES 2017, AND IT WAS PASSED TO OUTLINE THE DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE COMMUNITY FORESTRY DEPARTMENT AND THE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT THAT THEY HAVE, AS WELL AS CREATING THE LOUISVILLE METRO TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. THE PURPOSE OF THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS SPECIFIED IN THE ORDINANCE. THERE ARE SIX, I THINK, SPECIFICATIONS. THE BIGGEST ONE IS TO PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE MAYOR AND TO METRO COUNCIL AS NEEDED FOR IN RESPONSE TO AMENDMENTS, PERHAPS TO THIS ORDINANCE AND THE LOUISVILLE METRO LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, AS WELL AS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE ORDINANCE ALSO SPECIFIES, AS COUNCILWOMAN CHAPPELL SAID, 15 VERY SPECIFIC MEMBERS, TWO CERTIFIED ARBORIST, ONE REGISTERED LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, REPRESENTATIVES OF THE NURSERY INDUSTRY, ENVIRONMENTAL INTEREST ORGANIZATIONS, PUBLIC UTILITIES, UNDERGROUND AND ABOVE GROUND, AND THE BUILDING INDUSTRY OF LOUISVILLE, GREATER LOUISVILLE, INC. AND JEFFERSON COUNTY LEAGUE OF CITIES, AND THREE AT LARGE MEMBERS FROM ACROSS THE COUNTY. THE TAC HAS ESTABLISHED BYLAWS, AND WE HAVE FOUR STANDING COMMITTEES OUR EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, OUR COMMITTEE FOR ADVOCACY, OUR COMMITTEE FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND OUTREACH, AND FORESTRY PRACTICES. CURRENTLY, WE ALSO HAVE ONE AD HOC COMMITTEE, AND THAT IS OUR LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE, BECAUSE WE REALIZE THAT THIS ORDINANCE DOES NEED SOME REVISIONS. SO WE ARE WORKING ON THAT LANGUAGE SO THAT WE CAN COME BACK TO YOU AND SEE IF WE CAN AMEND THIS, THIS ORDINANCE TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLETE. AND WE ALSO HAVE SEVERAL PAGES ON THE LOUISVILLE, KY WEBSITE. WE'RE UNDER URBAN FORESTRY, AND YOU CAN SEE OUR BOARD MEMBERS, OUR BYLAWS, MEETING DATES AND ALL OF THAT MINUTES FROM THE MEETING. ET CETERA. ET CETERA. WE ARE CURRENTLY FOCUSED TO BEGIN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE LOUISVILLE URBAN FOREST MASTER PLAN. AND A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THAT. IN DECEMBER OF 2023, METRO COUNCIL DID ALLOCATE FUNDING FOR TREES LOUISVILLE TO CONDUCT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR LOUISVILLE'S METRO URBAN FOREST.

AND THE LOUISVILLE TREE PLAN IS A LONG TERM, VERY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR ADDRESSING THE MANY CHALLENGES THAT OUR COMMUNITIES FACE THAT OUR COMMUNITY FACES BY UTILIZING AND STEWARDING OUR URBAN FOREST. BECAUSE ANY FOURTH GRADE GRADER CAN TELL YOU THAT TREES CLEAN THE WATER, THEY CLEAN OUR AIR, THEY REDUCE HEAT AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS. AND IT'S NOT JUST THE ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS, IT'S ALSO THE SOCIAL BENEFITS. TREES DO PROVIDE SOCIAL COHESION FOR NEIGHBORHOODS, BETTER MENTAL HEALTH FOR RESIDENTS IN THE AREA. SO IT IS REALLY A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF OUR COMMUNITY. SO I HAVE IN YOUR PACKET THERE ARE A SUMMARY OF WHAT I JUST SAID, AND THEN ALSO THE FINDINGS AND STRATEGIES FOR THE URBAN FOREST MASTER PLAN. AND AGAIN, STRATEGY NUMBER ONE, THAT THAT OUR CONSULTANTS DEVELOPED FOR THIS MASTER PLAN IS TO IMPROVE THE COORDINATION OF ACTORS, REFINE ROLES FOR THE HIGHEST IMPACT AND ACTION. 1.1 IS ACTUALLY FORM A COALITION FOR PLAN IMPLEMENTATION OVER THE FIRST TEN YEARS. AND IT SEEMS REASONABLE TO HAVE THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE BE THE BEGINNING OF THAT COALITION. SO I THINK THAT THE IMPORT OF THIS, THIS COMMITTEE IS GOING TO INCREASE OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS AS WE WORK ON IMPLEMENTING THE URBAN FOREST MASTER PLAN. I WANTED TO KEEP IT QUICK IN CASE YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. AND THAT WAS THAT. THAT'S THAT THAT WAS THAT. OKAY. COULD YOU WHILE I WAIT FOR

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AND THEN ALSO. SO LET'S SAY THERE'S A CONDO DEVELOPMENT AND THEY HAVE A DEAD TREE AND THEY WANT TO REMOVE IT. AND THEY HAD A HARD TIME REMOVING IT. THEY HAD TO GO THROUGH THE ARBORIST IS THAT YOU GUYS KNOW THAT PROBABLY IF IT WAS ON PUBLIC PROPERTY, THAT WAS PROBABLY

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GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. I THINK I'VE SPOKEN TO YOU MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE SINCE I HAVE TAKEN OFFICE. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW HOW TO TAKE THAT. IT'S ALL BEEN POSITIVE. OKAY, GOOD THAT IT SEEMS THAT YOUR BOARD IS VERY ACTIVE AND VERY INVOLVED AND DOING A LOT OF GOOD WORK IN THE COMMUNITY. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY GET THAT ON THE RECORD. IT SEEMS LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE A BOARD THAT'S FUNCTIONING VERY WELL. OH WE DO. I LOVE OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS. THEY'RE THEY'RE. A LITTLE HANDS OFF, WHICH IS WONDERFUL BECAUSE THAT WAY WE CAN JUST DO OUR WORK. BUT ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS PICK UP THE TELEPHONE, AND THEY'RE BEHIND US ALL THE WAY. THEY'VE BEEN GREAT.

THANK YOU. MY PLEASURE. SO HAVE YOU GUYS. I WILL SAY. COUNCILMAN REED. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

AND I DO REMEMBER THE DIALOG WITH REGARD TO THE TREE ORDINANCE BACK IN 2017. IT WAS A LONG PROCESS AND THERE WAS A LOT OF INPUT FROM A LOT OF DISPARATE GROUPS. BUILDING, ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS, ETC. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IT'S BEEN, WHAT, EIGHT YEARS SINCE THEN? HOW DO YOU SEE US PROGRESSING AS A CITY, AND DO YOU THINK THAT THAT WE NEED TO GO BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT THIS ORDINANCE, TWEAK IT IN SOME WAYS. HOW ARE WE MEETING THE GOALS THAT YOU AND YOUR ORGANIZATION HAVE LAID OUT? THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. AND IT WAS AN ARDUOUS TWO YEARS GETTING THIS ORDINANCE DONE. AND IT STARTED OUT WITH 54 PAGES AND GOT DOWN TO 14. SO I MEAN, IT'S ALL GOOD. I THINK THAT THERE ARE SOME LITTLE TWEAKS. YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT WAS WRITTEN WHEN THERE WAS A WHEN IT WAS THE DIVISION OF COMMUNITY FORESTRY AND NOW IT'S URBAN FORESTRY. SO JUST THOSE SORTS OF LANGUAGE CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE. SO THERE'S THAT. THE OTHER PART OF YOUR QUESTION IS AS A CITY, WE ARE DOING AMAZING THINGS. I MEAN, PASSING THIS ORDINANCE IN 2017, REVISING SOME OF THE LANGUAGE IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WAS HUGE TOO. AND I THINK THAT ALL OF US WORKING TOGETHER OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME, WHEN WE WERE WHEN THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF CONTENTION, PERHAPS, I THINK THAT THAT CREATED ALL SORTS OF LIGHT BULB MOMENTS. AND I LOVE THAT. I HEAR THAT WHEN A PROJECT COMES TO PLANNING AND ZONING, AND THEY'RE NOT PRESERVING 20% OF THE OF THE CANOPY THAT YOU GUYS SAY, NO, NO, GO BACK AND BRING US 20%. I MEAN, I THINK THAT THOSE THINGS ARE ARE REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT. AND WE GOT REALLY POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM ALL THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE OVER THE LAST YEAR ON THE URBAN FOREST MASTER PLAN. AND I THINK THAT IT REALLY DOES GIVE US SOME STRONG RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND DO AN EVEN BETTER JOB. AND I REMEMBER THERE WAS A LOT OF COMPROMISE ON THAT ORDINANCE, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF GIVE AND TAKE. AND I THINK THAT 20% NUMBER WAS 30%. AND THEN WE EVENTUALLY COMPROMISED AND WENT TO 20%. SO LET US KNOW HOW WE CAN HELP, YOU KNOW, AND WHO MIGHT WHAT MIGHT TAKE THE LEAD IN TERMS OF DOING SOME TWEAKING TO THE ORDINANCE, IF NOTHING ELSE, JUST TO GET SOME LANGUAGE CHANGES. BUT I'M HAPPY THAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU FEEL AS THOUGH WE'RE MAKING GOOD PROGRESS AS A CITY. WE ARE. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY PLEASURE, COUNCILMAN, AND BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU ASK, BECAUSE I'LL BE AT YOUR DOOR. COUNCILMAN WINKLER. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. AND CINDY, GOOD TO SEE YOU. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY IN RESPONSE TO COUNCILMAN BRADSHAW'S COMMENTS, I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THE HURSTBOURNE ROAD. I THINK YOU ALL ALSO DID ON LAGRANGE ROAD IN MY DISTRICT FOR US. SO CERTAINLY DOES DO STUFF. AT LEAST THE ISSUE COUNCILMAN MAY HAVE BEEN. I KNOW ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE TRYING TO PLANT TREES IN MEDIANS IS PARTICULARLY ON STATE ROADS LIKE BARDSTOWN ROAD. KYTC HAS BEEN VERY DIFFICULT TO WORK WITH TRYING TO PLANT TREES IN THE MEDIANS. AND CINDY, THAT'S SOMETHING I'M GOING TO PULL. I'VE GOT A PROJECT WHERE I WANT TO DO SOME TREE PLANTING ALONG WESTPORT AND MORE ON HURSTBOURNE, AND MAY NEED TO PULL YOU IN TO BRING SOME EXTRA MUSCLE WITH KYTC. THAT IS NOT A PROBLEM. ACTUALLY, THAT'S ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I THINK TO COUNCILMAN REED'S QUESTION THAT HAS REALLY CHANGED. I MEAN, TEN YEARS AGO WHEN TREES LOUISVILLE STARTED, KYTC DID NOT ALLOW TREE PLANTING ON ON ROADWAYS WHEN WE AND THEN

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WESTPORT ROAD, WE JUST PLANTED ABOUT 50 OR MAYBE 70 TREES ALONG WESTPORT ROAD. SO I THINK THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG CHANGES, IS PARTNERING WITH AN ORGANIZATION LIKE KYTC TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE MORE CANOPY, ESPECIALLY IN THESE CORRIDORS THAT ARE SO IMPORTANT. AND WE'VE GOT COUNCILMAN BRATCHER. LAST QUESTION. MY BROTHER USED TO LIVE IN ATLANTA AND THEY USED TO BRAG ABOUT BEING THE CITY OF TREES. HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF THAT? IS THERE A RANKING OF CITIES THAT ARE I MEAN, I THINK IT'S GREAT TO HAVE THERE IS. AND WE IN THE MASTER PLAN, WE MADE A LOT OF COMPARISONS WITH WHAT OUR CONSIDERED OUR PEER CITIES. AND ATLANTA IS ONE OF OUR GOALS AT TREES LOUISVILLE TREES ATLANTA STARTED WITH ONE INDIVIDUAL LIKE WE DID AT TREES LOUISVILLE, AND 40 YEARS LATER THEY HAVE MORE THAN 90 EMPLOYEES. THAT'S THAT'S A GOAL FOR ME. RIGHT. AND INTERESTINGLY, ATLANTA IS A VERY SMALL THEIR THEIR CITY ACTUALLY IS VERY SMALL. SO THEY CAN COUNT MORE THAN WE CAN WITH OUR 397MI■!S. RIGHT. BUT WE'RE WE'RE DOING GOOD. WE'RE WE'RE DOING OKAY. I HEARD THAT DINGER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SHEPHERD'S CROOK. WELL, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH, MISS SULLIVAN, FOR BEING HERE. AND THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO OUR NEXT MEETING. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. AND JUST FOR MY COLLEAGUES TO KNOW, WE HAD IDENTIFIED A LIST OF EIGHT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT WE WANTED TO BRING IN THAT KIND OF LIKE WERE AT THE TOP OF ALMOST A GRADING SYSTEM THAT WE HAD IDENTIFIED IN TERMS OF LARGEST BOARDS, SMALLEST BOARD BOARDS THAT TAKE COMPENSATION, ONES THAT ARE UNDER LOUISVILLE METRO ORDINANCE AND NOT CRTS. AND I JUST WANT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT NOW THAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE TREE ADVISORY COMMISSION, THAT WE HAVE EXHAUSTED THAT LIST. AND SO CONGRATULATIONS TO US. WE'VE DONE A REALLY GREAT JOB BECAUSE IT'S NOT ONLY THOSE EIGHT, BUT WE ALSO HAD TWO ADDITIONAL ONES WITH THE ZONING BOARD AND THEN THE PARKS BOARD ZONING APPEALS BOARD. SO SORRY. SO I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS. AND MY OFFICE IS WORKING ON A LIST AND BATCHING THE NEXT, OUR NEXT MEETINGS. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND GO WITH A THEME FOR OUR MEETINGS. SO ONE MIGHT BE HOUSING, ONE MIGHT BE ZONING, ONE MIGHT BE PUBLIC WORKS. AND SO JUST SO WE CAN KIND OF STAY IN THE SAME THEME. AND SO TODAY SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TREES, NEXT UP WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE AIR POLLUTION CONTROL DISTRICT. AND SO TODAY WE'RE KIND OF GOING INTO THIS SUSTAINABILITY AND WASTE I KNOW THAT THOSE ARE KIND OF CONFLICTING. BUT AS OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MAKING THEIR WAY UP, I DO WANT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT THE AIR POLLUTION CONTROL DISTRICT IS UNDER STATUTE, ALSO UNDER A LOCAL ORDINANCE. THEY MEET ON THE THIRD WEDNESDAY OF EACH MONTH, AND THEY HAVE SEVEN.

THEIR MAXIMUM NUMBER OF MEMBERS IS SEVEN. THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY VACANCIES RIGHT NOW. AND WITH THAT, I WILL HAND IT OVER TO RACHEL HAMILTON. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IT IS A PLEASURE TO BE HERE WITH YOU TONIGHT. AND I AM JOINED BY STEVE SULLIVAN, WHO SERVES AS THE AIR POLLUTION CONTROL BOARD CHAIR. MR. SULLIVAN IS HERE. GOOD EVENING. SO IN 1945, ADDRESSING ISSUES WITH RESPECT TO COAL POLLUTION AND OTHER SOOT THAT WAS VISIBLE IN THE AIR, THE CITY OF LOUISVILLE STOOD UP, SOMETHING CALLED THE SMOKE COMMISSION. AT THAT TIME, WE ACTUALLY MEASURED AIR POLLUTION WITH BUCKETS HUNG ON LIGHT POLES, AND WE USED A RULER FOLLOWING THE DONORA, PENNSYLVANIA AND LONDON KILLER FOG. IN 1952, THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY AUTHORIZED THE ADOPTION OF KRS CHAPTER 77, WHICH ALLOWS FOR THE CREATION OF A DISTRICT IN ANY COUNTY IN THE COMMONWEALTH THAT FINDS ITSELF SO POLLUTED. SINCE THEN, WE ARE THE FIRST AND ONLY AIR POLLUTION CONTROL DISTRICT IN THE COMMONWEALTH. WE'LL LET THAT GET STARTED. ARE WE WAITING ON A PRESENTATION? WE ARE OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. READY, MATT. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. I REALLY LIKE THIS SLIDE. I AM A VISUAL LEARNER AND THIS IS REALLY HELPFUL FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO SEE. THAT'S

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THAT'S ACTUALLY SOOT. WE HAVE STORIES OF GENTLEMAN WHO WOULD BRING TWO SHIRTS TO WORK TO CHANGE IN THE AFTERNOON, BECAUSE THEIR COLLARS WOULD BECOME SOILED. THE PICTURE IN THE UPPER QUADRANT IS FROM THE 1970S. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. MATT, HOW IS THE DISTRICT ORGANIZED? SINCE THROUGH THE CITY ■COUNTY COMPACT AND NOW MERGER. THE DISTRICT REMAINS A SEPARATE BODY, CORPORATE AND POLITIC, AND RETAINS ALL OF THE AUTHORITY AND FUNCTIONS GRANTED TO IT UNDER KRS CHAPTER 77 THROUGH BOTH CHAPTER 77 AS WELL AS LOUISVILLE METRO ORDINANCE SECTION 32.6 75.

LOUISVILLE METRO GOVERNMENT IS OUR ADMINISTRATIVE, FISCAL AND FUNDING AUTHORITY OR OUR HIRING, FIRING, AND FUNDING PARTNER. AND THE AIR POLLUTION CONTROL BOARD IS OUR REGULATORY AUTHORITY.

DISTRICT STAFF ARE METRO EMPLOYEES. WE'RE CURRENTLY ABOUT 50 EMPLOYEES, AND WE INCLUDE ENGINEERS, SCIENTISTS AND OTHER PROFESSIONALS. THE DISTRICT'S WORK INCLUDES MONITORING AND COLLECTING AIR QUALITY DATA, DEVELOPING AND IMPLEMENTING POLICIES AND REGULATORY PROGRAMS TO REDUCE AIR POLLUTION, ISSUING AND ENFORCING THE AIR POLLUTION PERMITS THAT CONTAIN OUR REGULATORY PROVISIONS, AND EDUCATING AND ASSISTING BOTH THROUGH THINGS LIKE KENTUCKIANA AIR EDUCATION OR CARE, WHICH YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH, AND ALSO THROUGH OUR SMALL BUSINESS ENVIRONMENTAL ASSURANCE COMPLIANCE PROGRAM. BACK ONE MORE, WE REPORT TO A VARIETY OF PEOPLE THAT INCLUDES THE AIR POLLUTION CONTROL BOARD, THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY, THE KENTUCKY DIVISION FOR AIR QUALITY, LOUISVILLE METRO GOVERNMENT, AND, OF COURSE, STAKEHOLDERS. WE ARE FUNDED FROM A VARIETY OF SOURCES, INCLUDING FEDERAL GRANTS, PROGRAM PERMIT AND EMISSIONS FEES, AND ALSO METRO FUNDING. NEXT SLIDE. WITH RESPECT TO OUR WORK WITH US, EPA, WE IMPLEMENT HERE THE FEDERAL CLEAN AIR ACT THROUGH SOMETHING CALLED COOPERATIVE FEDERALISM. EPA SETS THE STANDARDS AND THEN STATE AND LOCAL AIR POLLUTION CONTROL AGENCIES DEVELOP THE PLANS TO MEET THOSE STANDARDS. IN 1970, THE FOCUS WERE LITERALLY ON THINGS. YOU COULD SEE UBIQUITOUS POLLUTANTS LIKE OZONE AND PARTICULATE MATTER. IN 1990, THE CLEAN AIR ACT WAS AMENDED TO INCLUDE CONTROL MEASURES FOR AIR TOXICS, NATIONAL EMISSION STANDARDS FOR HAZARDOUS AIR POLLUTANTS, AS WELL AS THE TITLE FIVE OPERATING PERMIT PROGRAM.

IN 1999, IT WAS FURTHER AMENDED TO INCLU CHEMICAL ACCIDENT PREVENTION AND THE RISK MANAGEMENT PLAN PROGRAM. AND WE'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 1952. SO WHEN THE CABINET WAS STARTED IN 1969, THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY PUT US TOGETHER AND WE HAVE TO WORK WITH THEM THROUGH SOMETHING CALLED CONCURRENT JURISDICTION. OUR REGULATIONS STAND IN PLACE OF STATE REGULATIONS HERE IN LOUISVILLE. THEY HAVE TO BE AT LEAST AS STRINGENT AS THE STATE'S. BUT THERE IS AN IMPORTANT DISTINCTION. WE CAN BE MORE STRINGENT. WE'LL TALK ABOUT ONE PLACE WHERE WE'RE MORE STRINGENT HERE IN A MOMENT. SEVERAL YEARS AGO, THE CABINET DID RETURN THEIR RISK MANAGEMENT PLAN PROGRAM TO US. EPA BUT GIVEN THE COLLECTION OF SOURCES THAT WE HAVE HERE IN LOUISVILLE, WE BELIEVE IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO RETAIN THE RISK MANAGEMENT PLAN PROGRAM. NEXT SLIDE. SO OUR BOARD IS OUR REGULATORY AUTHORITY. THEY APPROVE THE REGULATIONS THAT GO INTO THOSE PLANS THAT WE USE TO MEET THE AIR QUALITY STANDARDS. AS MISS CHAPPELL SAID, WE HAVE A BOARD MEETING EVERY MONTH ON THE THIRD WEDNESDAY OF EACH MONTH AT 10 A.M. WE MEET VIRTUALLY AND YOU CAN JOIN US IN PERSON IF YOU PREFER. THERE ARE TWO STANDING COMMITTEES, A POLICY AND STRATEGY COMMITTEE, AND THEY MEET AS NEEDED TO UPDATE THE DISTRICT'S REGULATIONS. THE BOARD ALSO RECENTLY COMPLETED AN AD HOC COMMITTEE REVIEW OF ITS BYLAWS AND RECOMMENDED SOME CHANGES THERE. MORE INFORMATION ABOUT OUR BOARD CAN BE FOUND ON OUR WEBSITE. I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK METRO COUNCIL FOR APPROVING THE APPOINTMENT OF CANDACE SHOBE WHITE LAST NIGHT FOR ANOTHER TERM. NEXT SLIDE. THE BOARD'S RESPONSIBILITIES ARE TO PASS OUR REGULATIONS. THEY ALSO ISSUE BOARD ORDERS FOR VIOLATIONS RECOMMENDED FOR SETTLEMENT BY THE DISTRICT. THEY ISSUE ENFORCEABLE BOARD AGREEMENTS, IN WHICH A PARTY AGREES TO TAKE CERTAIN ACTION TO REDUCE AIR POLLUTION, AND THEY HOLD PUBLIC HEARINGS ON PROPOSED REGULATIONS, BOARD ORDERS AND OTHER AIR POLLUTION ISSUES. THEY ALSO SERVE AN ADJUDICATORY ROLE, ISSUES WHERE THE DISTRICT CAN'T REACH SETTLEMENT OR THE BOARD DOESN'T APPROVE A SETTLEMENT, GO THROUGH AN ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING. THEY ALSO MANAGE THE AIR QUALITY TRUST FUND FOR SPECIAL ENVIRONMENTAL PROJECTS.

THOSE ARE VERY LIMITED PROJECTS. RIGHT NOW, THERE'S ABOUT $13,000 IN THE AIR QUALITY TRUST FUND.

ON OUR WEBSITE, YOU CAN SEE THE TYPE OF PROJECTS THE BOARD HAS APPROVED IN THE PAST. THEY CAN

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EXCUSE ME. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. AND THANK YOU FOR COMING. AND I'M OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER THOSE DAYS IN IN THE 1970S WITH HEAVY SMOG. YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE IN LOS ANGELES, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD. BUT MY I HAVE ONE QUESTION. YOU'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT REFORMULATED GAS IN THE CITY, AND THE FACT THAT IT DOES COST THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY MORE THAN IF YOU WENT TO BULLITT COUNTY OR IF YOU WENT TO, I DON'T KNOW, TAYLORSVILLE OR WHATEVER. SO AND I'M NOT ADVOCATING ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, BUT I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHAT YOUR OPINION IS. IT'S TIME FOR US TO REMOVE RFG, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON A NONINTERFERENCE DEMONSTRATION TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITH RESPECT TO WHERE IT'S USED. IT'S ACTUALLY USED HERE IN JEFFERSON COUNTY, AS WELL AS PORTIONS OF BULLETIN OLDHAM COUNTIES. AND SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH US, EPA, WHO HAS

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OKAY, SO BUT IN IN THE BOARD'S WORK IS NOT REALLY, YOU KNOW, POLICY ADVOCACY. THEN IT'S MORE IN TERMS OF JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE FOR THE PUBLIC. AND THEY SHOULD TAKE THAT FOR, FOR EXAMPLE, THE FACT THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, A STUDY RECENTLY SAID THAT WE HAVE THE SECOND WORST OZONE POLLUTION IN OUR REGION, BUT WE HAVE A PROPOSAL THAT WOULD REDUCE ONE OF OUR TOOLS TO ADDRESS AIR POLLUTION CONTROL ISSUES, REPLACE, NOT REDUCE. WELL, BUT BUT, BUT BUT WE ARE WE'RE CHANGING ONE ITEM OUT FOR ANOTHER WHEN WE COULD JUST DO BOTH. LET ME GO AHEAD AND JUST SAY THAT WITH RESPECT TO OUR BOARD, PLACES WHERE WE'VE HAD OPPORTUNITIES FOR ROBUST ADVOCACY INCLUDE THAT STRATEGIC TOXIC AIR REDUCTION PROGRAM, WHAT THE DISTRICT'S OBLIGATION IS, AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH POLICY DISCUSSION, IS TO PROVIDE THE BOARD WITH INFORMATION, DATA. THE STUDY THAT WE DID, THE WEST LOUISVILLE AIR TOXICS STUDY, SAME THING WITH THE PROPOSAL THAT WE'VE PUT TOGETHER TO REPLACE RFG WITH THESE QUANTIFIABLE, ENFORCEABLE SURPLUS EMISSION REDUCTIONS FROM ELSEWHERE WITH RESPECT TO OZONE. IT IS A CHALLENGE. THE STANDARD CONTINUES TO TIGHTEN. THAT IS GOOD FOR PUBLIC HEALTH. IT IS PART OF THE CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT PROCESS THAT IS THE CLEAN AIR ACT AND ACTION. AND WE BELIEVE THAT IT'S A SUPPORTABLE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE DISTRICT. US EPA HAS THE ULTIMATE DECISION WITH RESPECT TO REMOVING RFG. SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE OUT OF TIME, BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR THOROUGH PRESENTATION AND ALSO YOUR DELIVERY. IT MAKES ME FEEL LIKE YOU MAYBE HAD A BACKGROUND IN NEWS. SO GREAT JOB THERE. AND I DO JUST WANT TO IDENTIFY THAT CHAIR. STEVEN SULLIVAN IS THE GEOLOGIST RIGHT? NO. YES OKAY. BECAUSE MISS CINDY SULLIVAN WAS SITTING BEHIND YOU AND I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS AN ACCOLADE THAT SHE ALSO HAD ONE. NOT THAT ONE GEOLOGIST.

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AND SO IN RESPONSE TO THAT. AT THE TIME, THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN AND JEFFERSON COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND THE CITY AND COUNTY CAME TOGETHER AND DECIDED THAT THERE NEED TO BE MORE ROBUST CONTROLS AND OVERSIGHT OVER MATERIALS HANDLING HAZARDOUS MATERIALS. AND SO AT THAT POINT IN TIME, IN 1985, AS WHAT WE BELIEVE IS A DIRECT RESULT OF THAT SEWER EXPLOSION, THAT ORDINANCE WAS CREATED AS A METRO ORDINANCE. AND SO YOU WILL HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE CONTROL OVER THAT IF THERE ARE CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE MADE. THAT'S A PROCESS THAT THIS BODY CAN CAN TAKE ON AND ADMINISTER. BUT AT THAT TIME, LOUISVILLE MSD WAS WAS ASSIGNED THE ROLE OF ADMINISTERING AGENT FOR OR AGENCY FOR THE H HMO. AND SO THIS IS A GROUP THAT MEETS AGAIN WITH THE SUPPORT OF MSD STAFF AND RESOURCES. BUT IT IS A INDEPENDENT BODY, AND I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO OUR VICE CHAIR, CORRINE GREENBERG, TO GET INTO THE DETAILS. AND WE HAVE A TEAM HERE TO ANSWER TECHNICAL QUESTIONS OR THINGS THAT COME UP WITH THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE ORDINANCE. THANK YOU. WES. MY NAME IS KAREN GREENBERG. I'M THE VICE CHAIR OF THE BOARD. I'M NO RELATION WHATSOEVER TO THE MAYOR. I WAS INITIALLY APPOINTED TO THE BOARD IN 2020 BY MAYOR FISCHER. SO YES, THE ORDINANCE HAS THREE KEY PROVISIONS. THE FIRST ONE IS IT REQUIRES WHEN A HAZARDOUS MATERIAL IS RELEASED ABOVE ITS REPORTABLE QUANTITY, IT COMPELS THE REGULATED ENTITY IN THIS CASE WOULD BE WHOEVER HAD THE RELEASE, WHOEVER HAD THE INCIDENT TO IMMEDIATELY NOTIFY THE LOCAL AUTHORITIES SO THE LOCAL RESPONSE CAN BE MADE. THAT'S THE FIRST PROVISION. THE SECOND PROVISION IS ALL OF THE REGULATED ENTITIES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY NEED TO HAVE A HAZARDOUS MATERIALS USE AND SPILL PREVENTION CONTROL PLAN AND PLAN ON FILE WITH MSD. I MYSELF AM A REPRESENTATIVE OF A REGULATED ENTITY. SO AT THE FACILITY LEVEL WE PREPARE OUR APPLICATION. WE PROVIDE THE INFORMATION TO MSD WITH WHAT HAZARDOUS MATERIALS WE HAVE AT OUR FACILITY, WHERE WE HAVE IT, HOW MUCH WE HAVE, SO THAT IF THERE WERE AN INCIDENT, THEY WOULD ALREADY HAVE THAT MATERIAL, THAT INFORMATION ON FILE, AND IT DRIVES THE RESPONSE. SO HAVING THE COORDINATED PLAN. AND THE THIRD THING THAT THE ORDINANCE DOES IS IT'S FOR MSD TO ADMINISTER AND ENFORCE THE PLAN SO THAT WHEN AN INCIDENT DOES OCCUR, MSD IS THE

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AND THANK YOU FOR COMING. AND YOU, ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT THIS WHOLE EXERCISE IS THAT WE'RE LEARNING A LOT, YOU KNOW, AND I'M LEARNING JUST BY THIS PRESENTATION. SO HOW MANY HAZARDOUS MATERIAL INCIDENTS DO WE NORMALLY HAVE, LET'S SAY IN A 2 TO 3 MONTH PERIOD. IS THIS SOMETHING WE TALKING ABOUT? YOU KNOW, ONE WEEKLY. ONE DAILY. OH YEAH. MICHAEL MOORE I'M THE OPERATIONS DIRECTOR FOR SUPPORT SERVICES IN MSD. SO WE TYPICALLY HAVE 200 INCIDENTS A YEAR.

THAT'S ROUGHLY WHAT WE RESPOND TO. NOW SOME OF THOSE ARE NOT NOT ALL THOSE ARE INCIDENTS. AND HMO INCIDENTS IS HAZARDOUS MATERIALS ORDINANCE INCIDENTS. SOME OF THOSE FALL UNDER OUR WASTEWATER STORMWATER DISCHARGE REGULATIONS. SO WHAT WE PROVIDE TO THE HMO BOARD ARE THOSE SPECIFIC INCIDENTS THAT ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE HAZARDOUS MATERIALS ORDINANCE, AND THEY MAY BE HALF OF THOSE. IT MAY BE LESS. MOST OF THOSE ARE LATE REPORTING INCIDENTS THAT THAT IN OTHER WORDS, THERE'S AN INCIDENT. THEY HAVE 15 MINUTES TO REPORT IT TO 911.

AND THEY REPORT OUTSIDE OF THAT INCIDENT TIME. BUT WE HAVE OVERALL ABOUT 200 INCIDENTS A YEAR. AND WHAT TRIGGERS A VIOLATION NORMALLY. SO THERE ARE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE REGULATION THAT STATES THAT YOU MUST REPORT IMMEDIATELY UPON DISCOVERY OF A OF A HAZARDOUS MATERIALS INCIDENT AND HAZARDOUS MATERIALS INCIDENT WOULD BE A REPORTABLE QUANTITY AS DEFINED WITHIN THE ORDINANCE OR DEFINED THROUGH FEDERAL CODE. THAT'S THAT'S REFERENCED WITHIN THE

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OKAY. BUT THOSE ARE TYPES OF VIOLATIONS OUT OF THE HMO. YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'M LOOKING AT YOUR WEBSITE AND JUST LOOKING AT SOME OF THE INCIDENTS THAT OCCURRED. A TRANSFORMER FIRE, TWO OF THEM ARE MOTOR VEHICLE ACCIDENTS A TORNADO DAMAGED POLES, TRANSFORMERS, JUST VARIOUS THINGS WITHIN THIS. AND YOU IDENTIFY THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY. AND I'M JUST CURIOUS. ARE THESE ENTITIES, WHEN AVAILABLE, BEING FINED AND IF SO, HOW MUCH MONEY DOES THAT KIND OF EQUATE TO ON AN AVERAGE? AND WHERE DOES THAT MONEY GO. YEAH. AND FINES THERE ARE THERE ARE NOT THAT MUCH FINES. AND WITHIN THE ACTUAL HMO. AND I'M GLAD YOU ASKED THIS QUESTION BECAUSE IT KIND OF LEADS ME INTO SOMETHING ELSE TOO. BUT THERE ARE FINES UP TO $5,000. THAT'S THE MAX THAT WE CAN FIND OUT OF THE HMO. THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION NOW. OUR CURRENT VERSION OF THE HMO IS FROM 2007. IT'S OUTDATED. IT HAS SOME AMBIGUITIES, WHICH CAUSES US AS THE ADMINISTRATIVE AGENCY, SOME PROBLEMS OCCASIONALLY. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE ARE THERE HAS BEEN CONCERNS FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, FROM INDUSTRY AND EVEN FROM REGULATORY AGENCIES ABOUT HOW THINGS MIGHT NEED TO CHANGE. WE'RE IN A DIFFERENT WORLD FROM 2007, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE WE'VE IMPROVED OUR TRANSPARENCY, WE'VE PROVIDED THAT ON THE PAGE. AND THAT WAS ONLY SINCE WE STARTED IN 2023. WE STARTED PROVIDING ALL THAT INFORMATION OUTRIGHT ON THAT WEB PAGE FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO SEE. BUT WITHIN THE WITHIN THE HMO ITSELF, THERE ARE QUESTIONS.

AND I THINK THERE THERE IS A REAL GOOD REASON TO OPEN UP THE HMO THAT HAS TO BE SPONSORED, I THINK, BY A COUNCIL PERSON. WE HAVE TO HAVE A LOT OF, OF, OF INPUT FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC, FROM THE INDUSTRY, FROM THE REGULATORY AGENCIES, AND OF COURSE, FROM LOCAL GOVERNMENT ON HOW THAT GETS REVISED. BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, $5,000. AND, YOU KNOW, IN 2007, THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN ALL RIGHT TODAY. AND IT, IT, IT MAY NEED TO EXCEED. SO ON OUR WASTEWATER STORMWATER DISCHARGE REGULATIONS, FOR INSTANCE, WE CAN FIND UP TO $37,500. WE HAVE A 5000. SO IF SOMETHING'S REALLY EGREGIOUS OR SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE, A LARGER AMOUNT OF FINE MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE. BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT ABILITY UNDER THE HMO TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW.

THERE'S ALSO CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT HOW MAYBE ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS SHOULD BE IMPLEMENTED. HOW SHOULD THAT BE? SHOULD EVERY INCIDENT HAVE A ENFORCEMENT ACTION ATTACHED TO IT? BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT'S NOT REALLY NECESSARY. I MEAN, SOMEBODY REPORTED THEY REPORTED IN 16, 17 MINUTES. THEY TRIED TO REPORT IT, BUT UNDER UNDER THE BIG PICTURE, WE DON'T HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO LOOK AT SOMETHING AND GO, IT'S 16 MINUTES. IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE 15 MINUTE WINDOW.

THAT'S HOW THAT'S HOW THINGS ARE. WE EVALUATE IT. WE LOOK AT THE PRELIMINARY RESPONSE REPORT.

SO THAT WOULD BE TYPICALLY WE WOULD IDENTIFY THAT AS A NOTICE OF VIOLATION. AND WE WOULD ISSUE A NOTICE OF VIOLATION. BUT THERE PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE A FINE ATTACHED TO THAT UNLESS THERE'S BEEN MULTIPLE INCIDENTS OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR. WE WOULD THEN WE WOULD LOOK AT IT AND ASSIGN A FINE. SO IN 2024, HOW MANY FINES WERE TAKEN IN? I THERE WERE THREE. OH, I'VE GOT THAT RIGHT HERE AS A MATTER OF FACT, BECAUSE I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT ASK THAT WE HAD $6,000 FINES TOTAL SO WE CAN MAX FINE IS $5,000, BUT WE DON'T TOTAL LAST YEAR WAS $6,000. MOST MOST

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THIS IS UNDER KR'S STATUTE AS WELL AS THE LOUISVILLE METRO ORDINANCE. THEY MEET ON THE FOURTH WEDNESDAY OF EVERY MONTH. AND THEY DO GENERATE REVENUE. THEY HAVE A MAXIMUM OF SEVEN MEMBERS AND NO IMMEDIATE VACANCIES. AND I WILL HAND THIS OVER TO OUR TO PETE FLOOD, WHO'S HERE TO DISCUSS. AND I DO JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT I KNOW THAT WE'RE OVER ON TIME. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. BUT WE'LL TRY TO GET OUT OF HERE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

THANK YOU. DIRECTOR OF THE LOUISVILLE WASTE DISTRICT AND ALSO ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS, WASTE MANAGEMENT SERVICES. SO THE WASTE MANAGEMENT DISTRICT IS AN IMPORTANT BOARD THAT HAS A REGULATORY HISTORY. IT WAS CREATED BACK IN 1981 BASED UPON A HOUSE BILL THAT SAID THAT THERE WAS SOME PROBLEMS WITH WASTE THAT'S COMING INTO THE FUTURE, AND IT CREATED PLANNING AGENCIES TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS. AND BASED UPON THAT, LOUISVILLE FISCAL COURT CREATED THE WASTE MANAGEMENT DISTRICT IN 91. IT DESIGNATED JEFFERSON COUNTY AS ITS OWN PLANNING AREA, CREATED A BOARD, AND IT DELEGATED POWERS THAT THAT POWERS WERE AGAIN REAFFIRMED IN 2005 AFTER MERGER, SO IT IS CURRENTLY IN LOUISVILLE METRO ORDINANCE 51. THE. THE BOARD IS CREATED HAS SEVEN MEMBERS, THREE COUNTY COMMISSIONER DISTRICTS AND URBAN SERVICES DISTRICT ONE REPRESENTATIVE HOME RULE CITIES A ONE OF THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE WASTE INDUSTRY AND SOMEONE FROM THE UNINCORPORATED AREA THAT DOES NOT LIVE IN THE CITY.

SO IT ALSO HAS AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT IS BALANCED WITH INDUSTRY REPRESENTATIVES, ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS, HOME RULE, CITIES, GOVERNMENT AND CITIZENS. SO ANYTHING THAT COMES FROM THAT

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IT'S A SET ANNUAL FEE. SO IT'S BASICALLY THE PLACES THAT HAVE DISPOSAL IS THE ONES THAT PAY THE MAJORITY OF THE LICENSE FEES FOR THE WASTE MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND THE RECOVERY THINGS ARE TYPICALLY THINGS THAT ARE THAT COST LESS. THE MISSION STRATEGIES, POLICIES, PROGRAMS AS PART OF THE FIVE YEAR PLAN, CREATE AN AWARENESS AND COMMITMENT. MINIMIZE ADVERSE EFFECTS ON THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY, AND PROVIDING A COST EFFECTIVE, EFFICIENT, COST EFFECTIVE WASTE AND RECYCLING SYSTEM FOR THE FUTURE. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT IT'S DONE IN THE PAST, IT MANDATED RESIDENTS HAVE GARBAGE SERVICE. IT ALSO REQUIRES WASTE HAULERS TO OFFER RECYCLING AND COMPOSTING. IT BANNED THE LANDFILLING OF YARD WASTE TO SAVE SPACE, AND MORE RECENTLY, THAT PLASTIC BAGS COULD NOT BE USED IN THE COLLECTION. FORCED OUT OF YARD WASTE AT THE CURB. IT JUST COULDN'T BE USED, IT COULDN'T BE COMPOSTED. AND IT ALSO DOES A COMMUNITY HOST AGREEMENT, WHICH THIS IS AN AGREEMENT THAT SAYS WHERE WASTE CAN COME FROM. IF ANYBODY'S BEEN AROUND LONG ENOUGH TO REMEMBER THE SEWER EXPLOSIONS, MAYBE YOU'LL REMEMBER THAT THERE WERE GARBAGE TRAINS THAT WERE COMING FROM OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY, FILLING UP OTHER PEOPLE'S LANDFILL. THIS HOST AGREEMENT IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT KIND OF PREVENTS SOME OF THAT FROM HAPPENING. EVERYTHING WE DO IS ON A ON OUR WEBSITE. YOU HAVE ALL OF THE AGENDAS. MINUTES, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT ARE THERE. YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE A HAND IN MANY DIFFERENT THINGS, SPECIFICALLY, EDUCATION IS A REALLY BIG ONE. THE GUIDING DOCUMENT FOR THE WASTE MANAGEMENT DISTRICT IS THE FIVE YEAR SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT PLAN, WHICH IS A STATE REQUIRED PLAN. IT LOOKS AT THE WASTE GENERATION PROJECTIONS FOR FIVE, TEN AND 20 YEARS, AND IT GETS CAPACITY ASSURANCE, MAKING SURE THAT THE COUNTY HAS A PLACE TO TAKE ITS ITS WASTE FOR THOSE FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE. IT LOOKS AT THE DIFFERENT SEGMENTS OF THE WASTE INDUSTRY FROM COLLECTION, DISPOSAL, RECYCLING, OPEN DUMPS, LITTER, WASTE, SITING AND ENFORCEMENT. AND IT GIVES US STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESS IN AN ACTION PLAN TO IMPROVE THAT. OF COURSE, IT GOES THROUGH A RIGOROUS PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS. WE'RE CURRENTLY IN ABOUT THE MIDDLE OF OUR LAST FIVE YEAR PLAN. WE ALSO HAVE TO DO ANNUAL REPORTS. A LOT OF INFORMATION GOES INTO THOSE REPORTS. I WON'T GET INTO MUCH DETAIL. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE WASTE DISTRICT DOES DROP OFF SERVICES. IT HAS MAINLY THREE ASSISTED SERVICE RECYCLING FACILITIES. IT ALSO HAS A HAZARDOUS MATERIALS DROP OFF SITE AT 7501 GRADE LANE. AND THEN THERE'S 14 METRO GOVERNMENT SELF-SERVICE SITES ALL THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. MOST RECENT ONE, AIKEN ROAD, PAID FOR THE LICENSE FEE. THE MONTHLY LEASE PAID FOR THROUGH THE WASTE MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. EVEN THOUGH IT'S A METRO GOVERNMENT FACILITY. NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT ONE OUT ON LOWER RIVER ROAD RIGHT NOW. SOME OF THE OTHER PROGRAMS, THE RECYCLE RIGHT TAGGING PROGRAM TRYING TO REDUCE CONTAMINATION, WHICH IT IT HAS BEEN SHOWING A LOT OF PROMISE FOR REDUCING CONTAMINATION IN THE RECYCLING THAT GOES TO THE MATERIAL RECOVERY FACILITY, WHICH IS OUR GOAL BETTER LESS CONTAMINATION MEANS MORE VALUE FOR THE MATERIAL IT HAS. RECYCLE COACH PROGRAM. IT IS DEFINITELY

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WE'RE CURRENTLY SITTING AS COUNTY AT 15.9% OF THE MATERIAL COLLECTED AT THE CURB GETS RECYCLED OR COMPOSTED. YOU CAN SEE THE THAT UNFORTUNATELY, OUR RECYCLING RATE IS DECREASING.

CHART'S A LITTLE MISLEADING. IT'S NOT WENT DOWN A WHOLE LOT. WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT. SOME OF IT CAN BE REDUCED CONTAMINATION, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE GETTING LESS PEOPLE TO BE RECYCLING BECAUSE WE DO. LOOK, WE DO KEEP CURBSIDE AVAILABILITY RATES. 97.3% OF THE PEOPLE ARE ESTIMATED TO HAVE GARBAGE SERVICE. THAT EQUATES TO ABOUT 6000 PEOPLE THAT DON'T. THEY'RE PRIMARILY GOING TO BE IN UNCONTRACTED AREAS. SO SUBSCRIPTION AREAS AND THEN, YOU KNOW, 57.2 PEOPLE HAVE RECYCLING AVAILABLE. IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY UTILIZE IT. SO LIKE IN THE URBAN SERVICES DISTRICT EVERYBODY HAS IT AVAILABLE A LOT OF HOME RULE CITIES, IT'S AVAILABLE BUT PEOPLE WILL CHOOSE TO USE IT OR NOT. OUR OUR RECYCLING RATE, THE COUNTYWIDE NOT NECESSARILY THE CURBSIDE RATE, BUT ALSO PEDDLERS AND MANY OF THE OTHER AVENUES THAT TAKE PLACE OUT THERE. WE'RE SITTING AT ABOUT 27.8%, WHICH IS GOOD STILL UNDER WHAT WE WOULD WANT TO BE NATIONALLY. I THINK THEY'RE SITTING AT ABOUT 33%. SO WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS. SO WE ONLY HAVE ABOUT FOUR MINUTES LEFT IN THIS. SO WE CAN OF COURSE GO OVER. BUT I WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF EVERYONE'S TIME. BUT I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS WITH QUESTIONS. YEAH, OKAY. WE CAN WE CAN STOP AND DO THAT. THAT'S FINE. ALL RIGHT. YOU'RE INVITED TO WRAP UP A THOUGHT IF YOU WANTED TO LIKE, WELL, JUST SEVERAL HIGH LEVEL THINGS. CREATING TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS IS ONE OF THE GOALS IN THIS FIVE YEAR PLAN. MAKING STANDARDIZED, SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT MESSAGING ACROSS THE COMMUNITY. WHEN YOU HAVE AN UNINCORPORATED HOME RUL, CITIES, URBAN SERVICES, EVERYBODY DOING THINGS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT, IT CAUSES CONFUSION AS TO WHAT CAN BE RECYCLED AND WHAT CAN'T. SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING. YOU CAN SEE DOWN HERE ON THIS GRAPHIC, WE HAVE ENLISTED ALL THE DIFFERENT HAULERS TO COME UP WITH SIMILAR MESSAGING THROUGHOUT, WHICH SHOULD HELP US HELP RECYCLING BE LESS CONFUSING. WE ARE EXPLORING

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WE'D LIKE TO GET LATEX PAINT THERE, SOME HAZARDOUS MATERIALS. WE WOULD LOVE TO GET DOCUMENT SHREDDING AT THOSE LOCATIONS, BUT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO PLAN THOSE OUT ACCORDINGLY. PROBABLY THE BIGGEST ONE THAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS COST OF SERVICES STUDY. THE GOAL OF THIS STUDY IS TO CREATE A TRUSTED SET OF FACTS ON WHAT THE CURRENT STATUS IS, HOW MUCH IT COSTS. IF YOU'RE IN A SUBSCRIPTION AREA, THE AVERAGE COST IN A HOME RULE CITY, WHAT IT IS IN THE URBAN SERVICES DISTRICT, AND WE'RE CREATING THIS SET OF FACTS FOR THE FUTURE, FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE DECISIONS. WE ALSO WANT TO SEE IF THERE COULD BE ANY BENEFITS TO ORGANIZING THE SUBSCRIPTION AREAS TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS. BUT REALLY WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO IS WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE AN IMPARTIAL RECOMMENDATIONS FOR IMPROVEMENTS THE WASTE DISTRICT BOARD DOES HAVE DOESN'T HAVE ANY PLANS TO DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN GATHER THESE SETS OF FACTS FOR PEOPLE TO LOOK AT. AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH MY PRESENTATION. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. FLOOD. COUNCILMAN BRATCHER. YEAH. MR. FLOOD, I'VE HAD GREAT INTERACTION WITH LITTER AND ILLEGAL DUMPING SO FAR. I'M BRAND NEW TO THE COUNCIL, BUT THERE'S A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT CAME TO ME AND SAID THEY HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS WITH THE 109 BOARD, SO I'VE GOT A LOT OF QUESTIONS HERE. I WON'T ANSWER THEM, ASK THEM ALL TODAY, BUT I AM INVESTIGATING. CAN YOU TELL ME WHY THERE NEEDS TO BE A BOARD SEPARATE FROM PUBLIC WORKS? WELL, FIRST AND FOREMOST, IT WAS REQUIRED THROUGH CRS THAT A COUNTY NEEDED TO BE ABLE TO DO ITS PLANNING. METRO THE IT REQUIRED THEM TO FORM A IT. IT REQUIRES THE PLANNING FOR SOLID WASTE AND IT ALLOWED FOR WASTE MANAGEMENT DISTRICTS TO BE CREATED TO DO THAT. FISCAL COURT DECIDED BACK IN 1991 THAT THEY WANTED TO CREATE THIS BOARD, AND THEY ASSIGNED IT THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF SOLID WASTE PLANNING, SO THAT THAT WAS THE PURPOSE AND THE REASON THAT IT HAS BEEN HERE FOR ALL THIS TIME. AND WHAT HOW MUCH OVERLAP IS THERE? I MEAN, COULD WE GO COULD WE IS ONE OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS IS WOULD IT LIKE BREAK YOUR HEART IF WE WENT TO FRANKFORT AND SAID, TELL US THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS ANYMORE, THAT WE COULD PUT THIS ONE ON, ON BOARD UNDER PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR AND BE DONE WITH IT AND NOT HAVE A BOARD? WELL, WOULD IT WOULD BREAK MY HEART. I YOU KNOW, I CAN'T REALLY COMMENT ON IT IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. I WOULD SAY THAT THERE IS BENEFIT TO HAVING THEM BOTH. YOU. I THINK THAT WITH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THIS BOARD CAN DO, GRANTS AND MATERIALS AND BE AN ADVISORY, I THINK THAT THERE'S SOME BENEFITS TO THAT. IT ALSO, TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, I BELIEVE THAT IF IT WAS ALL UNDER ONE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, SOME PEOPLE MAY FEEL THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY REPRESENTATION. AND ON A LOT OF DECISIONS. SO THAT'S WHY I GOT A METRO COUNCILMAN, RIGHT? YEAH.

AND ON ONE LAST THING IS THE, THE, THE MAKEUP OF THE BOARD. THERE'S BEEN SOME PEOPLE SAYING THAT PEOPLE OVEREXTEND THEIR TERM LIMIT, THAT THERE'S NOT THAT VACANCIES GO ON TOO LONG.

IS THERE ANYTHING TO THAT? I AM GOING TO JUST KIND OF START DIGGING IN AND INTERVIEWING FOLKS LIKE YOU AND JUST SEEING IF THERE'S ANYTHING TO THAT. WELL, I WILL SAY THAT IT IS A FREE OR PEOPLE DON'T GET PAID TO SIT ON THE BOARD. AND MOSTLY WHERE WE'VE HAD TROUBLE GETTING REPRESENTATION. IT'S BEEN IN SOUTHWEST JEFFERSON COUNTY PREVIOUSLY. A POSITION CAME OPEN, AND IT'S NOT AS THOUGH WE DON'T TRY TO FILL THEM, BUT IT SAID OPEN FOR TWO YEARS, AND BECAUSE WE COULD NOT FIND ANYONE THAT WAS WILLING TO SERVE IN THAT ROLE. SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT PEOPLE TO STAY AROUND, BUT WE DO WANT THEM TO STAY AROUND UNTIL WE CAN FIND A REPLACEMENT. SO IT'S JUST VERY DIFFICULT TO FILL THE SOME OF THE POSITIONS ON THE BOARD. ALL RIGHT. WELL THANK YOU. I'LL BE COMING AND TALK TO YOU MORE.

ABSOLUTELY. AT YOUR CONVENIENCE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY BURNING QUESTIONS WHILE WE'VE GOT MR. FLOOD IN FRONT OF US? YES. MR. COUNCILMAN, REAL QUICK, YOU MENTIONED THE RECYCLING RATES ARE DOWN A LITTLE BIT, WHICH I KNOW FOR IS A BIT DISCOURAGING.

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SO THAT END USER CAN BE A, YOU KNOW A GLASS PLANT UP IN DAYTON. OR YOU KNOW, THE BIGGEST THING THAT WESTROCK DOES IS CORRUGATED CARDBOARD PIZZA BOXES. RIGHT? SO A LOT OF THEIR FIBER GOES INTO THAT. SO THERE'S A HOME FOR THE MATERIAL THAT'S COLLECTED. SOMETIMES YOU HAVE SOME CONTAMINATION. OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT GOING TO GET TO THE PLACE IT NEEDS TO GO. BUT IT WELL IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE PAID FOR IN LANDFILL. BUT THAT RATE HERE IN TOWN IS ABOUT 8%. WHEREAS IF YOU LISTEN TO SOME OF THE OTHER PEER CITIES, THAT RATE IS SO MUCH HIGHER. WE'RE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB AT LOWERING THE CONTAMINATION RATE HERE. BUT AGAIN, JUST TO FOLLOW UP, THE MOST EASILY RECYCLED ITEM IS CORRUGATED CARDBOARD. THAT'S THAT'S WHERE IT'S EASIER TO DO.

THAT'S WHERE THE PROFIT IS. ALUMINUM, AS I UNDERSTAND, IS ALSO EASILY RECYCLABLE. BUT WHEN YOU GET INTO GLASS AND SOME OF THE PLASTICS AND SOME OF THE ESPECIALLY WITH THE DIFFERENT GRADES OF PLASTICS, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT EVEN THAT BOTH OF THE FIRST, I'M NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH THE SECOND AS THE FIRST, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT NEITHER ONE OF THEM IS REALLY DOING A LOT WITH PLASTICS AND GLASS. MOSTLY WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IS PULL OUT THE CORRUGATED, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE REAL PROFIT IS, AND THEY'RE TRYING TO PULL OUT THE ALUMINUM BECAUSE THAT'S THE EASIEST ONE TO RECYCLE. AND THE REST OF IT, THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH BUNDLING, PUTTING ON A TRAIN AND SENDING IT TO CINCINNATI. WELL I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING IT'S GOING TO CINCINNATI. I DO HAVE A LIST OF THE LOCATIONS WHERE MATERIAL GOES. I'D BE HAPPY TO, BUT IT'S BUNDLED AND SENT. RIGHT. IT'S NOT. YES. SO WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY I THINK TO YOUR POINT. RIGHT. I THINK AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS, BUT AS AS PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT RECYCLING, I THINK PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO QUESTION SOME OF THAT, SOME OF THE OUTCOMES. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE FIX THAT. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE, YOU KNOW, RETHINK THE OUTCOMES OR I THINK THERE'S A CHALLENGE THERE. AND I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE STRUGGLING WITH IT, BUT. RIGHT. WELL, I WILL SAY THAT THERE'S A LOT OF HEADWINDS WITH THE NATIONAL NEWS STORIES ABOUT RECYCLING. WHAT I WOULD TELL YOU IS THAT WE SIT IN THE CENTER OF THE COUNTRY. MOST OF THAT WAS TAKING PLACE ON THE COAST. THAT BACK SHIPPED THE RECYCLABLES. AND WHEN CHINA SHUT DOWN A LOT OF WHAT THEY WAS TAKING BACK, THEY STARTED TO LOOK INTERNALLY INTERNAL TO THE COUNTRY. THEY LOST A LOT OF THEIR RECYCLING STUFF. WE NEVER REALLY LOST ALL OF OUR PEOPLE. NOW THE PRICE WAS DIFFERENT SUPPLY AND DEMAND. BUT WE HAVE NOT NECESSARILY LOST OUR OUTLETS FOR IT. AND RECYCLING IS VERY DEPENDENT UPON THE INDUSTRY THAT IS AROUND YOU TO MAKE IT VIABLE. YOU CAN'T SHIP A PIECE OF GLASS TO CALIFORNIA AND MAKE IT A GOOD DEAL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL DIRECT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THE BOARD TO YOU AT ANOTHER TIME. MR. FLOOD, I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. IT'S A WEALTH OF INFORMATION. AND WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING.

THANK YOU.

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