May 06, 2025 Public Works Committee (trimmed)

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GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS IS THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING FOR PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE. THIS MEETING IS BEING HELD PURSUANT TO KRS 61.826 AND COUNCIL RULE 5AI AM JOINED IN CHAMBERS BY

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[3. R-050-25     A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE OFFICE OF THE JEFFERSON COUNTY ATTORNEY TO BRING A CONDEMNATION ACTION AGAINST THE OWNERS OF CERTAIN PROPERTY, PARCEL NO. FOUR (4), IN JEFFERSON COUNTY IN CONNECTION WITH THE AIKEN ROAD AND ARNOLD PALMER BOULEVARD ROUNDABOUT PROJECT. Action Required By October 24, 2025 Sponsors: Anthony Piagentini (R-19) ]

PARCEL NUMBER FOUR IN JEFFERSON COUNTY IN CONNECTION WITH THE AIKEN ROAD AND ARNOLD PALMER BOULEVARD ROUNDABOUT PROJECT. CHAIR RECOGNIZES COUNCILMAN BIANCHINI. OH. NEED A MOTION.

MOTION SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. CHAIR RECOGNIZES COUNCILMAN PIAGENTINI. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR. I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S TIME TODAY. SO, AS BY WAY OF BACKGROUND, THIS CONDEMNATION ACTION IS RELATED TO THE INTERSECTION OF AIKEN ROAD AND ARNOLD PALMER IN MY DISTRICT. THIS IS AN INTERSECTION THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME. BY WE I MEAN THE ADMINISTRATION VIA PUBLIC WORKS AND MYSELF HAVE BEEN WORKING TO UPGRADE TO DEAL WITH THE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE IN THE SIGNIFICANT INCREASE OF TRAFFIC ON AIKEN ROAD, PARTICULARLY COMING EAST TO WEST DUE TO THOUSANDS OF NEW UNITS, RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT ARE EITHER BUILT OR BEING BUILT OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS. AND IN LOOKING AT ALL OF THE IDEAS ON THE BEST WAY TO IMPROVE THIS INTERSECTION, WHICH CROSSES AIKEN ROAD HAS THE MAJORITY OF THE TRAFFIC, BUT ARNOLD PALMER CROSSES IT. THE BEST OPTION WAS TO CREATE A TRAFFIC CIRCLE, WHICH HAS BEEN WHICH WAS PRESENTED TO THE COMMUNITY, HAS BEEN WIDELY ACCEPTED AND IS THE BEST OPTION TO IMPROVE THAT INTERSECTION. WE HAVE ROUGHLY THREE QUARTERS OF THE FUNDING ALREADY SET ASIDE, AND PUBLIC WORKS HAS BEEN GOING THROUGH THE LAND ACQUISITION PROCESS VERY DILIGENTLY OVER THE PAST YEAR, PLUS ALMOST TWO YEARS NOW TO GET US TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY. UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE ONE PROPERTY OWNER THAT THE ISSUE, TO BE CLEAR, IS NOT THAT THEY ARE REJECTING OUR OFFERS. THE ISSUE IS A COMPLETE LACK OF ONGOING COMMUNICATION, AND THAT IS NOT BY THE LACK OF HARD WORK BY THE PUBLIC WORKS TEAM.

THEY'VE REACHED OUT TO MY OFFICE. WE TRIED TO GET AHOLD OF THE HOMEOWNER. WE REACHED OUT TO THE HOA. THEY TRIED TO GET AHOLD OF THE HOMEOWNER. WE WERE IN TOUCH A LITTLE BIT, AND THEN WE WERE AGAIN MET WITH SORT OF RADIO SILENCE ON THE ISSUE. SO UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS CONDEMNATION ACTION, WHICH TO BE QUITE CLEAR FOR EVERYBODY. DOES MEAN THAT THIS LANDOWNER WILL STILL BE PROPERLY COMPENSATED. IT JUST IT JUST SETS FORWARD THE MOTION THAT THE JEFFERSON COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE CAN FORCE THE NEGOTIATION, DISCUSSION, AND ULTIMATELY, A COURT ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE LEGAL COMPENSATION FOR THEIR LAND. TO BE CLEAR, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LESS THAN A 10TH OF AN ACRE OF LAND. THAT IS THE ISSUE HERE. SO WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A BIG CHUNK OF LAND. AND MOST OF THAT LAND IS REALLY FOR RIGHT OF WAY.

NOT NECESSARILY BEING CONDEMNED FOR THE ROADWAY. YOU HAVE IN THE REFERENCE DOCUMENT DOCUMENTATION, YOU HAVE THE MAPS THAT DEMONSTRATE THAT, BUT MOST OF IT WILL NOT BE TAKEN UP BY THE ROAD, BUT IS RATHER NEEDED, JUST RELATED TO CONSTRUCTION RIGHT OF WAY, AND JUST GENERAL RIGHT OF WAY NEEDED WHEN A ROAD IS CHANGED. SO AGAIN, I WOULD I WANT TO COMPLIMENT AND MIKE IS HERE FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS TEAM. IF HE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS OR ANYBODY ELSE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT MIKE AND HIS TEAM, THE PUBLIC WORKS TEAM, MY OFFICE, THE HOA, EVERYBODY HAS TRIED TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. AND THIS IS JUST A MATTER OF A LACK OF COMMUNICATION AND A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME AT THIS POINT, OVER A YEAR HAS GONE

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YOUR VOICE VOTE OR ROLL CALL, ALL RIGHT. THIS CALLS FOR A VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. THAT WILL GO TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. THE NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS. THANK YOU, MISTER CHAIR. THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS IS R-24. DASH

[2. R-024-25     A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO ACCEPT $10,716 FROM THE LOUISVILLE MEDICAL & EDUCATION DISTRICT FOR THE LOUMED UNDERPASS LIGHTING PROJECT TO BE ADMINISTERED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS AND ASSETS. 4/15/25  Public Works Committee Held 3/18/25  Public Works Committee Held 3/4/25   Public Works Committee Held 2/18/25  Public Works Committee Held Action Required By  August 13, 2025 Sponsors: Jeff Hudson (R-23) ]

JUST SOME QUICK BACKGROUND. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH. I'M SORRY. COULD YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? JENNIFER KOENIG, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, LOUISVILLE METRO PUBLIC WORKS. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THROUGHOUT DOWNTOWN THAT ABUT OR ARE NEAR OR HAVE PEDESTRIANS THAT ARE UTILIZING WALKWAYS THAT ARE UNDERNEATH INTERSTATE 65. AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THOSE, THAT LIGHTING HAS GONE OUT, IS BROKEN, HAS SUFFERED THEFT. OTHER REASONS IT NO LONGER WORKS. WE HAVE BEEN MOVING TOWARDS COST SHARE. SO THIS IS PART OF THAT. OUR ELECTRICAL MAINTENANCE TEAM IS PROVIDING WORK TO GET THOSE LIGHTS BACK UP AND RUNNING. BUT THIS FUNDING IS TO HELP SUPPORT ON THE MATERIALS FOR THAT REHABILITATION TO GET THE LIGHTS BACK ON THERE. ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? FOR. THIS MOTION? CALLS FOR A VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES AND WE'LL GO TO CONSENT. THIRD AND FINAL ITEM. ITEM WE HAVE ON THE

[1. ID 25-0090     COUNCIL DIRECTED TRAFFIC CALMING PROGRAM – Jennifer Kern, Public Works ]

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OKAY. IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU. FAIR ENOUGH. YEAH. SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE DID IT. AND I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THIS IS KIND OF QUALITATIVE AND SOFT. AND WE JUST HAD TO USE OUR ENGINEERING AND, AND BEST JUDGMENT TO DETERMINE IF IT FIT WITHIN THE PROGRAM. SO KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT IS WE HAVE COMPLETED 31 SHOVEL READY PROJECTS AND BUDGETS. THE TOTAL OF THOSE 31 PROJECTS IS $2.1 MILLION. AND AGAIN, WE HAVE BUDGETED $500,000. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A TASK FOR COUNCIL TO HELP PRIORITIZE. WE WILL IN THIS PRESENTATION DISCUSS SOME OPTIONS AND SOME THINGS TO CONSIDER. BUT AGAIN, SO WE HAVE $500,000 BUDGETED IN $2.1 MILLION IN PROJECTS COMPLETED OR DESIGNED AND BUDGETED. SO JUST AS A GENERAL OVERVIEW, WE HAVE 46 TOTAL SUBMITTED. AND IF YOU'RE KEEPING TRACK, WE COULD HAVE HAD A TOTAL OF 52. SO WE'LL GET INTO THAT LATER. BUT 31 SHOVEL READY COMPLETED. THAT COST ESTIMATE IS $2.1 MILLION.

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AND THAT IS JUST BECAUSE THEY HAD VARIED LEVELS OF COMPLEXITY. AND JUST TIME WISE, WE STRUGGLED TO GET ALL OF THEM DONE. SO WE HAVE FOUR LEFT. THAT COULD AFFECT HOW YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED. AND IF YOU SEE YOUR DISTRICT ON HERE, KNOW THAT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE DON'T THINK DISTRICTS IMPORTANT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT JUST MEANS THAT THEY WERE COMPLICATED. NOW I'M GOING TO PASS IT TO JEREMY CHESLER, WHO'S GOING TO RUN THROUGH HOW WE SCORED ALL THE PROJECT AREAS. JEREMY CHESLER, TRANSPORTATION PLANNER TWO WITH PUBLIC WORKS. SO I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON THE SCORING AND RANKING OF THESE PROJECTS. SO THE SCORING CRITERIA IS BROKEN DOWN INTO FOUR MAIN CATEGORIES. SO SAFETY THINGS LIKE CRASH HISTORY SPEED DATA TRAFFIC. SO MOTOR VEHICLE VOLUME AND THAT SORT OF CHANGE DEPENDING ON WHETHER IT WAS A, YOU KNOW, THE CLASSIFICATION OF ROADWAY THEN ALSO MULTI MODAL. SO LOOKING AT THE PRESENCE OF OTHER FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION, TRANSIT BIKE PEDESTRIANS AND THEN SOME COMMUNITY MEASURES. SO COMMUNITY FACILITIES. SO WE LOOKED AT A HALF MILE BUFFER SCHOOLS PARKS, LIBRARIES THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THEN ALSO THE COMPLETE STREETS COALITION SCORE. SO THAT'S WHERE THERE'S THE BOARD IS MADE UP OF 15 MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. SO THERE IS SOME PUBLIC INPUT SORT OF BUILT INTO THIS SCORING. AND THEN THOSE SCORES WERE OUT OF 165 MAXIMUM POINTS. SO SOME SORT OF A BREAKDOWN OF THE HIGH SCORE VERSUS THE LOW SCORE. SO HIGH SCORE HERE WE HAVE A WEST MARKET STREET IN DISTRICT FIVE BETWEEN 39TH AND 41ST. SO YOU KNOW THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT HISTORY OF CRASHES IN THAT AREA. AND IT'S ON THE HIGH INJURY NETWORK. SO IT SCORED HIGH FOR THOSE MEASURES AS WELL AS A HIGH TRAFFIC VOLUME. AND THEN YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IN HERE, YOU KNOW THIS IS RIGHT BY THE ACADEMY AT SHAWNEE AS WELL AS SOME OTHER LAND USES THAT GENERATE PEOPLE. SO YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO BE A HIGHER IMPACT WHERE THERE'S MORE PEOPLE FOR IMPLEMENTING THIS. SO THAT RECEIVED 124 POINTS TOTAL. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, A LOW SCORING LOCATION. SO THIS IS LONG RUN PARK ROAD AND DISTRICT 19 RIGHT ON THE BORDER WITH SHELBY COUNTY. SO HERE YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT REALLY A SIGNIFICANT HISTORY OF CRASHES, LOWER TRAFFIC VOLUMES IN GENERAL. SO, YOU KNOW, IT DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY POINTS FOR THOSE METRICS. IT IS, OF COURSE WITHIN A PARK. SO, YOU KNOW, IT DID GET SOME IT DID SCORE SOME POINTS FOR THAT. BUT AS YOU CAN SEE AROUND THERE, THERE'S NOT REALLY ANY SIGNIFICANT PEOPLE GENERATORS SURROUNDING IT. SO YOU KNOW THE SCORE KIND OF REFLECTS THAT. AND IT RECEIVED THAT 24 POINT TOTAL SCORE. THEN THIS SLIDE JUST SHOWS THE MAP SORT OF THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE SUBMITTED LOCATIONS OR THE SCORE LOCATIONS. SO, YOU KNOW, IT IS SPREAD OUT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY BASED ON THE LOCATIONS THAT WE RECEIVED. NOW I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MY COLLEAGUE. HEY Y'ALL, I'M LOU LEPPING. I'M A TRANSPORTATION PLANNER TOO, WITH PUBLIC WORKS. I'M JUST GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH SOME OF THE PROBLEMS AND SOLUTIONS FOR THE PROJECTS THAT OUR TEAM RECOMMENDS PURSUING. EXCUSE ME. SO FIRST I JUST WANT TO START BY SHOWING YOU THIS MAP. WE JUST SAW THE MAP THAT JEREMY PRESENTED OF ALL OF THE PROJECT LOCATIONS. THIS MAP REPRESENTS OUR RECOMMENDED SITE SITE LOCATIONS. YOU CAN SEE A LOT. A LOT WENT INTO THIS, AS JEREMY MENTIONED, INCLUDING COMMUNITY INPUT, TRAFFIC DATA, AND GEOGRAPHIC DISTRIBUTION WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO US IN THIS. THESE ARE THE SITES THAT THE PLANNING TEAM, EVERYONE THAT HAS SPOKEN RECOMMENDS PURSUING. OF ALL THE SITES THAT WE THAT WERE SUBMITTED. SO LET'S JUST DIVE RIGHT IN AND WE'LL START WITH WEST MARKET STREET. THERE'S A

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AND ALSO THERE'S SOME CONFUSING SIGNALING BECAUSE WE HAVE TRAFFIC SIGNALS STACKED ON TOP OF EACH OTHER. WE HAVE MAYBE SOME CONFUSING INTERSECTIONS FOR MOTORISTS AND PEDESTRIANS BOTH TO NAVIGATE. SO WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING HERE IS IMPROVED PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS. FIRST OF ALL, THAT LOOKS LIKE IMPROVING OR ADDING LEGAL CROSSINGS HERE FOR SCHOOL CHILDREN AND NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC, GENERAL FOOT TRAFFIC. AND ALSO AT THIS SECTION. PAIRED WITH THAT IS RAPID FLASHING BEACONS SO THAT PEDESTRIANS CAN COMMUNICATE MORE EFFECTIVELY WITH MOTORISTS TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THEY INTEND TO CROSS. WE ALSO ARE PROPOSING NEW CURB EXTENSIONS AND STRIPED PARKING IN AN EFFORT TO SLOW MOTORIST TRAFFIC DOWN AS THEY APPROACH THIS INTERSECTION AND ALONG THIS CORRIDOR. AND THEN GENERALLY, WE JUST AIM TO COMMUNICATE MORE EFFECTIVELY VIA THE RAPID FLASHING BEACONS AND ALSO AND THE PEDESTRIAN SIGNAGE HERE. SO THE HOPE THAT THIS THE HOPE IS THAT THIS CREATES A SAFER CORRIDOR NOT ONLY FOR MOTORISTS BUT ALSO FOR PEDESTRIANS CROSSING HERE. NEXT IS BARRETT AND ELSON. I'M SURE MANY OF YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS A HOTLY CONTESTED INTERSECTION, AND IF ANY OF YOU HAVE DRIVEN IT, YOU KNOW THAT IT'S IT CAN BE KIND OF A CONFUSING INTERSECTION FOR ANYONE APPROACHING IT FROM ANY DIRECTION. MOTORISTS, CYCLISTS, PEDESTRIANS. THERE'S A HIGH VARIABILITY OF USER. AS I JUST MENTIONED, THERE ARE POOR SIGHT LINES FROM PRETTY MUCH EVERY ANGLE BECAUSE OF THE TOPOGRAPHY HERE, AND THAT MAKES IT UNPREDICTABLE FOR PEDESTRIANS TO ANTICIPATE THE MOVEMENT OF CARS. ON TOP OF THAT, WE HAVE SOME CONNECTIVITY ISSUES BECAUSE HERE THIS WIDE SIDEWALK IS ACTUALLY A MULTI USE PATH FOR BOTH PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS. AND THERE IS NEW BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE ON ALLISON AVENUE. SO OUR HOPE HERE IS THAT WE CAN CONNECT THE BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE TO THE MULTI USE PATH. THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE ARE THOSE IMPROVED BIKE BIKE PED CONNECTIONS WITH LEGAL CROSSINGS FOR PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS. HERE THE CYCLISTS CROSSING IS IN GREEN AND MOSTLY WE AIM TO SLOW MOTORISTS ON THEIR APPROACH TO THIS INTERSECTION BY INSTALLING CONCRETE MEDIANS THAT SORT OF ASK PEOPLE TO APPROACH MORE THOUGHTFULLY AS THEY COME UP OVER THIS HILL. AND THEN THERE, THE NEW CROSSINGS WOULD BE PAIRED WITH RAPID FLASHING BEACONS SO THAT PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS CAN COMMUNICATE MORE EFFECTIVELY WITH MOTORISTS. IN ON THE BORDER OF DISTRICT 15 AND 21, WE HAVE SOUTH FIFTH STREET. SOUTH FIFTH STREET ENDS UP GETTING USED A LOT LIKE OR IT LOOKS A LOT LIKE CENTRAL AVENUE IN A LOT OF WAYS. BASED ON ITS AVERAGE DAILY TRAFFIC AND ALSO THE SPEED SORT OF HAS MEDIUM AVERAGE DAILY TRAFFIC PAIRED WITH HIGH SPEED OR, SORRY, PAIRED WITH A WIDE STREET WHICH EQUALS HIGH SPEEDS. AND SO. WE ALSO HAVE A HIGH VARIABILITY OF USERS HERE. PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS BOTH USE THIS BECAUSE OF ITS PROXIMITY TO CHURCHILL DOWNS. ALSO PROXIMITY TO SOUTHERN PARKWAY. SO IT'S GETTING USED AS A CUT THROUGH TO SOUTHERN PARKWAY. AND THERE IS A SCHOOL NEARBY. SO IN IN RECOGNITION OF ALL THOSE THINGS, WE ARE RECOMMENDING TO IMPROVE PEDESTRIAN INFRASTRUCTURE. YOU CAN SEE HERE SORT OF. IMPROVED CROSSINGS AT CERTAIN LOCATIONS. AND THEN ALSO THE INSTALLATION OF CONCRETE BUMPOUTS, WHICH WILL SLOW MOTORISTS BY CREATING CERTAIN PINCH POINTS ALONG THE CORRIDOR, IMPROVE SIGHT LINES AT INTERSECTIONS AND CREATE A LESS DESIRABLE CUT THROUGH OVER TO SOUTHERN PARKWAY BY SLOWING FOLKS DOWN. AT THE INTERSECTION OF DORSEY LANE, WE HAVE HIGH SPEEDS AND LOW VISIBILITY, WHICH CREATES A REALLY UNCERTAIN TURNING MOVEMENT FOR FOLKS ENTERING AND EXITING THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. WORK HAS BEEN DONE IN THE PAST THERE BY INSTALLING THERMOPLASTIC RUMBLE STRIPS TO INDICATE TO MOTORISTS THAT THEY SHOULD SLOW DOWN AS THEY

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BECAUSE OF THE HIGH SPEEDS AND THE CONFUSING ROAD CURVATURE, IT LEADS TO SOME UNEXPECTED INTERACTIONS BETWEEN MOTORISTS. AS YOU CAN SEE IN THIS IMAGE SUBMITTED BY COUNCILMAN SEIM, IT LEADS TO SOME REALLY UNSAFE ROAD DEPARTURES AND COLLISIONS, SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT WE ADD THERMOPLASTIC RUMBLE STRIPS TO INDICATE THAT TO MOTORISTS THAT THEY SHOULD SLOW DOWN AROUND THESE CURVES AND THEN ALSO THE INSTALLATION OF A NEW LEGAL CROSSING AT JEFFERSON MEMORIAL FOREST VISITOR CENTER. AND I'M GOING TO PASS IT OVER TO NATHAN STONE. HELLO EVERYONE. I'M NATHAN STONE, I'M A PROJECT MANAGER WITH PUBLIC WORKS. AND THE FIRST THING I WANTED TO COVER BEFORE I GET INTO THE BUDGETARY AND FINANCIAL PIECE OF THIS IS REALLY THAT WE'RE DOING A BALANCING ACT ON ANY PROJECT THAT WE DECIDE TO UNDERTAKE OR CONSIDER UNDERTAKING. AND REALLY, THERE'S KIND OF TWO BIG THINGS THAT WE'RE BALANCING. SO ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, YOU CAN SEE THE TRIANGLE THERE OF MAINTENANCE COST OF A PROJECT AS WELL AS DESIGN. SO YOU KNOW, DESIGN BEST PRACTICE AND THEN THE PRICE. SO ALL THREE OF THOSE THINGS HAVE TO BE BALANCED TO COME UP WITH AN EFFICIENT DESIGN. AND THEN ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE THE OTHER TRIANGLE, THE OTHER THOUGHT PROCESS WE GO THROUGH IS WHERE WE PLACING THOSE PROJECTS IN GEOGRAPHY. SO WHERE ARE THEY LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY AND DISTRIBUTING THOSE IMPACTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THE OTHER THING WE THINK ABOUT WITH THAT IS IMPACT. SO WE WANT TO HAVE A LARGE, AS LARGE AS WE CAN OF AN IMPACT ON ALL USER TYPES, ALL TRANSPORTATION MODES POSSIBLE, AND WHERE THE MOST QUANTITY OF PEOPLE AND USERS ARE ARE FEELING THIS CHANGE AND ACTUALLY HAVING AN IMPROVEMENT IN THEIR TRANSPORTATION CONDITIONS. AND OF COURSE THAT'S ALWAYS BALANCED ALSO WITH PRICE.

SO THESE ARE KIND OF BALANCING ACTS THAT WE CONSTANTLY HAVE TO DO AS A DEPARTMENT. WHEN WE THINK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DESIGNING AND PROPOSING. YOU ALREADY HAVE HEARD THIS FROM MY COLLEAGUE NATE. BUT AGAIN, COUNCIL ALLOCATED HALF $1 MILLION BUDGETED FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM. AROUND $2 MILLION IS THE COST OF ALL OF THE SUBMISSIONS SO FAR THAT WE'VE DESIGNED AN ESTIMATED, WHICH MEANS WE'RE AROUND 28% FUNDED. SO IF YOU CHOSE TO DO ANY ADDITIONAL ALLOCATIONS OR PURSUE OTHER FUNDING TYPES, YOU KNOW, THAT'S PURELY AT THE DISCRETION OF COUNCIL. BUT THIS IS KIND OF WHERE WE STAND TODAY. AND SO WE HAVE A LOT OF SHOVEL READY WORK, READY TO GO FOR WHEN THAT BECOMES AVAILABLE. AND ONE MORE PIECE OF CONTEXT I LIKE TO PROVIDE AS WELL IS THIS IDEA OF AN UPFRONT COST AND A LONG TERM COST. THESE THINGS ARE OFTEN IN OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS. YOU'LL SEE ON THE LEFT THAT THERE IS WHAT WE CALL POST AND PAINT. THAT'S LITERALLY PUTTING PAINT ON THE SURFACE OF THE ROAD AND PUTTING IN DELINEATORS OR SOME TYPE OF VERTICAL ELEMENT. THESE THINGS, YOU KNOW, ARE PRETTY COST EFFICIENT, RIGHT? THEY'RE REALLY CHEAP TO INSTALL AND THEY GET US QUICKLY IMPLEMENTING PROJECTS, WHICH IS A HUGE WIN. AND THEN ON THE FAR RIGHT HAND SIDE YOU CAN SEE CONCRETE, A MEDIAN. THOSE THINGS ARE A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE TO INSTALL. SO THE UPFRONT COST IS VERY HIGH. AND IN THE MIDDLE WE HAVE ASPHALT. IN THIS CASE IT'S SPEED HUMPS. AND THAT'S KIND OF LIKE A MEDIUM COST. SO UPFRONT YOU MIGHT PAY A LOT FOR THAT CONCRETE WORK. BUT IN THE REVERSE THE LONG TERM MAINTENANCE COST IS GOING TO BE

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RIGHT. SO IT LASTS A LONG TIME. SO YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO REPLACE IT EVERY, YOU KNOW, SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR. YOU'RE REPLACING IT EVERY 30 YEARS, FOR INSTANCE, VERSUS POST AND PAINT THE PAINT CHIPS OFF THE GROUND. THE DELINEATORS CAN BE KNOCKED OVER, UNFORTUNATELY. AND SO IF YOU'RE GOING OUT THERE REPLACING THAT A TON, YOU'RE GOING TO EAT INTO A BIGGER LONG TERM COST. SO THESE MOVE IN OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS. WE JUST LIKE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND. THE THING THAT I'LL SAY ABOUT THIS IS THAT THIS MEANS THAT WE DON'T ALWAYS PROPOSE THE CHEAPEST SOLUTION FOR AN IMPLEMENTATION FOR A PROJECT, AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE'RE ALWAYS THINKING ABOUT LONG TERM MAINTENANCE AS WELL. SO THERE'S A TRADE OFF THAT'S HAPPENING HERE. SO IN ALL THE PROJECT WORK WE'RE DEFINING, IT'S NOT ALWAYS THE CASE. WE'RE DOING THE CHEAPEST SOLUTION. WE'RE DOING THE THING THAT IS MOST EFFICIENT LONG TERM THAT WE THINK WILL BE STAND THE TEST OF TIME AND ACTUALLY WORK THE BEST. SO IN THINKING ABOUT WAYS THAT WE COULD HELP COUNCIL MAKE A DECISION, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE NEED IS SEVERAL TIMES GREATER THAN THE FUNDING AVAILABLE.

THESE ARE THREE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE ASPIRED TO GIVE YOU. THE FIRST IS OPTION A, WHICH IS OUR RECOMMENDATION. STRIVING TO HIT SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 3 TO 5 PROJECTS AND STAYING UNDER THAT HALF $1 MILLION VALUE. THE SECOND OPTION IS OPTION B AND THESE ARE THE TOP SCORING PROJECTS. SO IF YOU REMEMBER, MY COLLEAGUE JEREMY TALKED ABOUT THE CRITERIA MATRIX AND RANKING THESE PROJECTS BASED ON STANDARDS AND QUALITATIVE MEASURE QUANTITATIVE MEASURES.

WE COULD JUST GO STRAIGHT DOWN THE LIST UNTIL WE HIT 500,000 AND BE DONE. HOPEFULLY 3 TO 5 PROJECTS. AND THEN AGAIN, IF ADDITIONAL FUNDS WERE PURSUED, YOU COULD DO THE WHOLE PORTFOLIO OF PROJECTS. AND AGAIN, THAT'S AROUND $2.1 MILLION. HERE'S THE LIST. YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN THE DESIGNS. LOU WAS PRESENTING THOSE JUST BEFORE ME, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IN COLUMN A. YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE'VE MADE. AND IN THE PARENTHESES YOU'LL SEE THE SCORE. THAT'S THE CRITERIA SCORE. SO THE VERY TOP RANKING PROJECT IS WEST MARKET STREET.

THE FIRST ONE WE PRESENTED HAS 124 POINTS. AND THEN YOU'LL SEE AS YOU GO DOWN THE LIST, SOME OF THE SCORES START GOING DOWN. BUT THEY'RE ALL RELATIVELY HIGH. SO THESE ARE ALL VERY HIGH IMPACT PROJECTS FROM A QUANTITATIVE STANDPOINT. BUT THE THING TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE HAVE LOOKED AT LONG STANDING REQUESTS FROM THE COMMUNITY, WHICH ARE NOT NECESSARILY FACTORED INTO THE SCORING MATRIX, AND ALSO OUR GENERAL KNOWLEDGE OF GEOGRAPHIC SPREAD. SO WE'RE TRYING TO SPREAD THAT THOSE DOLLARS AS FAR AND AS WIDE AS POSSIBLE TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT, AS YOU SAW ON THE MAP, THOSE SIX PROJECTS WERE KIND OF SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. YOU CAN IMPLEMENT THOSE THROUGHOUT. THEY'RE NOT ALL FOCUSED IN THE URBAN SERVICES DISTRICT, OR ALL IN THE EAST END OR ALL IN THE WEST. THEY'RE THEY'RE SPREAD THROUGHOUT. AND THEN THE TOP SCORING OPTION, WHICH IS THE CENTER COLUMN, THAT'S B THAT'S JUST STARTING AT THE TOP OF THE RANKING AND JUST MOVING DOWN UNTIL YOU HIT YOUR 500,000.

THAT'S WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. AND IT ONLY ACCOMPLISHES FOUR PROJECTS. THEY'RE ALL VERY HIGH IMPACT, BUT SOME OF THEM ARE FAIRLY COSTLY. SO YOU'RE NOT GETTING AS MUCH DONE AS OUR RECOMMENDATION. AND THEN AGAIN C IS SELF-EXPLANATORY. THAT'S THE ENTIRE PORTFOLIO. ALL RIGHT I'M GOING TO PASS IT BACK TO NATE. SO THIS IS OUR FIRST YEAR DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS. AND EVERYONE ON ALL THE PEOPLE BEHIND YOU WORKED EXCEPTIONALLY HARD. ALSO TRAFFIC ENGINEERING REALLY WORKED. EXCEPTIONALLY HARD. AND WE HAD A LOT OF. LESSONS LEARNED KIND OF INTERNALLY ABOUT PROJECT DELIVERY AND PROJECT IDEATION AND ALL THAT STUFF. BUT AS IT PERTAINS TO THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM. I HAD A COUPLE OF NOTES THAT IF IMPLEMENTED AGAIN, WE WOULD MAYBE THINK THROUGH A LITTLE BIT BETTER. SO NOT ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS SUBMITTED PROJECTS. WE DID. WE PRESENTED TO BOTH CAUCUSES. LEGISLATIVE ASSISTANTS, AND THEN THE PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE SENT OUT EMAIL BLASTS. BUT I THINK JUST THINKING THROUGH GENERALLY HOW WE SHOULD COMMUNICATE MORE MEANINGFULLY WITH COUNCIL TO LET THEM KNOW THIS OPPORTUNITY EXISTS WOULD BE SOMETHING TO THINK THROUGH AGAIN AND HOW WE COULD IMPROVE. BOTH NATHAN AND

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CIF PUBLIC WORKS IS GIVEN A BUDGET TO MAINTAIN THE ROADS. I DON'T, I JUST HAVE A FUNDAMENTAL ISSUE WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVING TO USE CIF TO PAY FOR SMALL PROJECTS, BUT THAT WAS WELL, I'M SORRY, I'M GOING TO SPEAK OVER YOU, BUT I THINK THAT THERE ARE, AS THIS EXERCISE SHOWS US, A LOT OF PROBLEMS. A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE CALL US AND THEY SAY THEY'RE SPEEDING ON A STREET. THE SOLUTIONS AREN'T REALLY STRAIGHTFORWARD, AND I THINK THAT SOMETIMES A SPEED HUMP ISN'T THE CORRECT SOLUTION, WHICH IS REALLY THE ONLY THING THAT WE HAVE A CLEAR PATH FORWARD FOR. AND SOMETIMES IT'S SOMETHING WHERE IT COULD TAKE OUR PLANNING TEAM ENGINEERING TEAM, TRAFFIC ENGINEERING, POTENTIALLY OUTSIDE CONSULTING TO HELP US GET TO A AN ACTUAL SOLUTION THAT WILL REALLY SOLVE THE PROBLEM. SO I THINK THAT THERE ARE I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND, YES, WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ROADS AND FOR MAINTENANCE, BUT THERE IS A LOT THAT GOES INTO COMING UP WITH CREATIVE SOLUTIONS TO SLOW TRAFFIC DOWN. A LOT OF TIMES IT'S NOT JUST AS STRAIGHTFORWARD AS SAY, YOU KNOW, ADDING A SPEED HUMP SOMETIMES DOESN'T WORK.

DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT AT ALL. MY RUB IS IT SHOULDN'T COME OUT OF CIF TO PAY FOR IT. BUT THAT THAT THAT'S PROBABLY JUST A RANT MORE THAN A QUESTION. IF YOU COULD GO BACK CAN YOU GO BACK SOME SLIDES TO THE MAP THAT HAD ALL THE RED WORMS ON IT THAT THAT ONE. THOSE ARE, IF I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY, THOSE ARE ALL OF THE PROJECTS THAT WERE SUBMITTED TO BE GRADED. THE SECOND SLIDE, THE SLIDE RIGHT BEHIND THIS ONE IS THE ONES THAT YOUR GROUP SUGGEST GOING FORWARD WITH. IS THAT DO I UNDERSTAND THAT RIGHT. YEAH. THAT'S CORRECT OKAY. YEAH. AND THEN IF YOU GO TO YOUR RUBRIC, WHICH IS I THINK A FEW THAT RIGHT THERE. MY, MY OPINION OF THIS IS THAT THAT RUBRIC IS A LITTLE BIASED BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME COUNCIL DISTRICTS THAT ARE NEVER GOING TO GET PROJECTS TO PASS BECAUSE THEY'RE HANDICAPPED FROM THE WAY THAT THE RUBRIC GRADES THEM.

JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE GEOGRAPHY OF WHERE THAT DISTRICT IS. AND IF CHURCHES IN SCHOOLS ARE MORE GEOGRAPHICALLY SPREAD OUT, LIKE IN SOME DISTRICTS, THEN THEY ARE MORE CONCENTRATED IN OTHER DISTRICTS THAN THE ONES WHERE THEY'RE SPREAD OUT, ARE AUTOMATICALLY HANDICAPPED BY THIS, THIS, THIS RUBRIC. SO I WOULD I GUESS MY QUESTION IS FOR YOU TO MAYBE GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE WAY YOU'RE GRADING, GRADING THE PROJECTS. YEAH, I'M LOOKING FOR AN ANSWER

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THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS AT 41ST AND MARKET STREET IN DISTRICT FIVE. I WOULD AGREE THAT CROSSWALK IS NEEDED DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF SHAWNEE HIGH SCHOOL. HAVE PEOPLE COMPLAINING ALL THE TIME THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A CROSSWALK, AS WELL AS A FLASHING SIGN FOR PEDESTRIANS WALKING ACROSS THE STREET WITH SIGNAGE ON THERE.

THE ONE. THERE ARE TWO THINGS THAT I'M I'M NOT SURE OF, AND ONE IS THE CONCRETE CURB EXTENSION EXTENSIONS. I REALLY DON'T SEE THE BENEFIT OF THOSE. EVERYONE. NOT EVERYONE, BUT NO ONE HAS EVER CALLED OR TALKED TO ME IN FAVOR OF THOSE IN MY DISTRICT. THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE TALKED TO ME ABOUT THEM, THEY THEY JUST DO NOT LIKE THEM. AND I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY'RE THERE. IF ANYTHING, THEY THEY LIMIT PARKING SPACE. THAT'S MONEY YOU CAN USE SOMEWHERE ELSE IF YOU WANT MY OPINION. YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT THOSE ANYWHERE ELSE IN DISTRICT FIVE BECAUSE NO ONE LIKES THEM AND INCLUDING ME. AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT REMOVING A STREET LIGHT OR A STOP LIGHT. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT REMOVING THE ONE AT 41ST AND MARKET? IS THAT THE STOPLIGHT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT REMOVING? YEAH. SO THE HOPE WOULD BE THAT WE CONVERT IT TO A STOP CONDITION. SO JUST A STOP SIGN INSTEAD OF A TRAFFIC SIGNAL. AND THAT WOULD WE'RE DOING THAT IN OLD LOUISVILLE WITH GREAT SUCCESS IN OTHER PLACES THAT THE IDEA BEING IS THAT WHEN PEOPLE SEE A GREEN LIGHT, THEY SPEED UP AND IT CAUSES ISSUES. SO BY REMOVING THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL AND ADDING A STOP SIGN, I WILL SAY THAT IT'S NOTED THAT TRAFFIC ENGINEERING IS EVALUATING IT. SO WE HAVEN'T, BUT IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE POINTED OUT. I WOULD I WOULD RECONSIDER THAT ONE BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA, I WOULD DEFINITELY RECONSIDER THAT ONE. YEAH. BUT ALSO. JENNIFER AND NICOLE, WE'VE TALKED ARE REALLY THE AREA THAT WE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO IS ONE OF THE DEADLIEST AREAS LATELY IN DISTRICT FIVE, AND THAT'S 33RD AND NORTHWESTERN PARKWAY. I'M SURPRISED I DIDN'T SEE THAT UP HERE. I'M CALLING FOR A PUBLIC MEETING BECAUSE WE'VE HAD TOO MANY ACCIDENTS THERE AND SOME FATALITIES, AND IT'S RIGHT BY THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. AND SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU COME UP WITH A CALMING PLAN. I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE SOME SUGGESTIONS ALREADY, AND I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THOSE PUBLICLY WITH THE CONSTITUENTS IN THAT AREA, BUT I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT WOULD HAVE GOTTEN THE, YOU KNOW, THE STUDY FIRST INSTEAD OF THIS ONE. BUT AGAIN, IF YOU WOULD RECONSIDER REMOVING THAT STOPLIGHT AND ALSO RECONSIDER NOT PUTTING THOSE CURVE OUT THINGS ON THERE, I JUST DO NOT SEE THE BENEFIT IN THEM. AND IT'S JUST MY OPINION. I THINK IT'S A WASTE OF MONEY.

OKAY. AND WE ARE SO THE SUBJECT OF WHAT WE'RE HERE TODAY ARE ONLY THE ITEMS THAT WERE SUBMITTED. AND WE CERTAINLY WE DO HAVE SOME SKETCHES FOR 33RD STREET AND WE ARE TRYING TO GET RIGHT NOW. THE KENTUCKY TRANSPORTATION CABINET IS WORKING ON A NORTHWEST LOUISVILLE PLAN. PART OF NORTHWESTERN PARKWAY IS OWNED BY THE STATE, PART IS OWNED BY US.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING WHERE I'D LIKE TO TALK TO THEM. AND I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO NATE ABOUT OPTIONS FOR WHAT WE OWN AND STARTING TO GET BUY IN FROM THE STATE AS WELL. YEAH. AND THE PRINCIPAL OF PORTLAND ELEMENTARY, SHE'S WAITING FOR US TO TELL US WHEN WE'RE LOOKING TO MEET IF YOU CAN INCLUDE THOSE GUYS AS WELL. AND I KNOW I MENTIONED TO YOU, THIRD OF THE MARKET IS BECOME REALLY DANGEROUS SINCE THE SPORTS COMPLEX IS THERE. AND THEN WE HAVE THE 24TH IN PORTLAND AND THE 29TH AND BANK STREET. THOSE THOSE INTERSECTIONS ARE REALLY DANGEROUS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN, COUNCILMAN BRATCHER, I REALLY LIKE THE PROACTIVENESS OF IT. IS THIS THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR THIS HAS HAPPENED. YES, SIR. YEAH, YEAH. FIRST YEAR.

WE'RE TRYING IT OUT, WILL YOU? YOU CONSIDER IT A SUCCESS AS FAR? I THINK SO I THINK THAT

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IT'S NOT IT'S NOT GOING TO HURT OUR FEELINGS. SO ULTIMATELY THAT WILL BE THE NEXT STEP IS FINALIZING THE PROJECTS THAT ARE OUTSTANDING, GETTING FINAL SCORING AND THEN MOVING FORWARD.

WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET THOSE IN FRONT OF YOU ALL AND GET THOSE RANKED AND HOW TO ADVISE MOVING FORWARD. SO THAT WILL BE THE NEXT STEP IN THE PROGRAM. ALL RIGHT. WELL THAT WAS ACTUALLY MY NEXT QUESTION WAS NEXT STEPS. AND SO I WAS CURIOUS ON HOW COUNCIL APPROVES THIS BECAUSE YOU HAD OUTLINED THERE'S IMPLEMENTATION OPTIONS A, B AND C. THERE'S ALREADY $500,000 THAT COUNCIL HAS ALLOTTED TO THIS. I'M DON'T HAVE MY BUDGET BOOKS IN FRONT OF US IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW. IS IT ANOTHER $500,000 THAT'S BEING ALLOTTED TO THIS SAME PROGRAM IN THIS FISCAL YEAR BUDGET? NO, THIS AT THIS TIME, IT'S NOT PROPOSED IN THE BUDGET. AND SOME OF THE OUTCOME WE KIND OF ALLUDED TO IS HAVING THOSE SHOVEL READY PROJECTS. SO WHEN WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE AN AREA THAT WE GET COMPLAINTS ALL THE TIME, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT? WE HAVE A SHOVEL READY SOLUTION THAT YOU CAN PUT A PRICE TAG ON, FIGURE OUT HOW TO FUND IT, WHETHER IT IS, YOU KNOW, A COLLABORATION WITH MAYBE OTHER AGENCIES, LIKE IF IT IMPACTS A PARK OR OTHER STAKEHOLDERS OR OTHER FUNDING SOURCES, OR ON LOCATIONS THAT MAYBE BORDER OR CROSS TWO SEPARATE COUNCIL DISTRICTS, MAYBE PARTNERING. BUT THE IDEA

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RIGHT? IF WE WERE TO PUT THE FULL ASK OF, WHAT, $2.3 MILLION THESE PROJECTS, WHAT'S THE REALISTIC REALISTICALLY, ARE THEY GOING TO GET DONE AND ON WHAT TIMELINE AND BY WHO? SO I WILL SAY THAT WE RECENTLY BECAUSE THESE ARE ALL IN THE JOB ORDER CONTRACT, I THINK IT WOULD BE A COMBINATION. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT METRO RECENTLY ENTERED INTO IS A JOB ORDER CONTRACT. SO IT ALLOWS US THE ABILITY TO DO THINGS LIKE A QUICK BUILD TYPE PROJECT, WHICH ALL OF THESE WOULD BE CONSIDERED QUICK BUILD, SOME OF THEM THAT INCLUDE TRAFFIC SIGNALS OR FLASHING BEACONS. THAT WORK WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE IN-HOUSE BY GROUPS LIKE OUR ELECTRICAL MAINTENANCE. THERE ARE POTENTIALLY OVERLAPS THAT WE COULD COVER WITHIN THE COURSE OF OUR OWN WORK THAT WE'RE DOING FOR THINGS LIKE STRIPING. SO THERE ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT WAYS, AND THAT IS AGAIN, SOMETHING THAT WE WILL HAVE TO GET SORTED OUT. AND SO SORRY.

LAST QUESTION IS ONE MORE. YEAH. WELL YEAH. THE ONLY THING I WAS GOING TO SAY IS THE YOU SAID THE NEXT STEP IS TO FINALIZE THOSE, I THINK OTHER FOUR PROJECTS AND GET THOSE INTO THE SCORING RUBRIC, SINCE WE'RE ENTERING INTO BUDGET SEASON AND WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE THAT IN THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, MONTH AND A HALF. WILL WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN FRONT OF US TO MAKE EDUCATED DECISIONS? SO THE $500,000 THAT EXISTS IS IN FISCAL YEAR 25. SO IT WOULDN'T BE. BUT YES, I THINK WHAT IS THE TIMELINE. YEAH, WE'LL HAVE THOSE COMPLETE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS I THINK. YEAH. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN BENSON. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

I'LL BE QUICK. I TUCKER STATION AND TAYLORSVILLE ROAD. AND NO TELLING HOW MANY ACCIDENTS IT CAUSED WHEN IT WAS ICY AND STUFF AND PEOPLE COULDN'T REALLY SEE THEM AND THEY BOUNCED ALL OVER. THEY FINALLY CAME ALONG AND JACKHAMMERED THEM OUT OF THERE AND JUST PUT SOME LINES. AND IT WAS IT WAS A LOT BETTER. DID YOU ALL HAVE ON ON YOUR ALL'S LIST? MARY DALE. CALMING STRIPS OR SOMETHING? I BELIEVE SO. YEAH. WELL, I MEAN, THERE'S FIVE ON MARY DALE NOW. IT'S GOING INTO IN THE INTO VENTNOR PARK. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YOU'RE GOING TO PUT THERE. TO ME UNLESS YOU'VE I DON'T KNOW. DID SOMEBODY COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT. I MEAN IT WENT FROM OUR OFFICE. SO IF WE COVERED IT THEN IT WAS UNLESS THERE WAS AN ERROR ON OUR SIDE, IT WAS BECAUSE SOMEONE FROM THE COUNCIL OFFICE SUBMITTED IT. WELL, YOU ALL NEED TO DRIVE THAT BEFORE YOU THINK ABOUT PUTTING SOME MORE THERE. I MEAN, LIKE I SAY, THERE'S FIVE AND I DRIVE IT EVERY NOW AND THEN, AND IT'S DEFINITELY YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SPEED. YOU ALMOST HAVE TO GO 20 MILES AN HOUR JUST TO GET THEM OVER SO YOU DON'T GET BOUNCED. I MEAN, THEY'RE A PRETTY GOOD BUMPS. SO I THINK Y'ALL NEED MAYBE IF YOU WOULD LOOK AT THEM. THANK YOU. AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT. I MEAN THESE THE GOAL HERE WOULD BE THAT. WE WOULD GLADLY TAKE COUNCIL FEEDBACK AND CHANGE THESE PLANS AND ADJUST THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. THANK YOU.

YEAH. I HAVE A FINAL QUESTION FOR YOU. HOW DO YOU RECONCILE? RECONCILE PROJECTS FOR STATE ROADS. FOR EXAMPLE, THE FLASHING BEACONS. I ASK FOR ONE. AND IT WAS ON A STATE ROAD IN STATE

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