Feb 20, 2025 Parks and Sustainability Committee (trimmed)

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[2. R-015-25     A RESOLUTION PURSUANT TO THE CAPITAL AND OPERATING BUDGET ORDINANCES APPROVING THE APPROPRIATION TO FUND THE FOLLOWING NONCOMPETITIVELY NEGOTIATED PROFESSIONAL SERVICE CONTRACT FOR METRO PARKS CONCERNING CONSULTING SERVICES FOR PARKS FOR ALL PLANNING AND REPORTING – PROS CONSULTING, INC. ($118,000.00). Action Required By: August 13, 2025 Sponsors: Councilman Khalil Batshon (R-25) ]

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OKAY. DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH WE SPENT ON THE PAST? THE PAST THROUGH MONEY? I BELIEVE THE PASS THROUGH WAS 200,000. OKAY. AND I THINK ANOTHER 300,000 CAME FROM PARKS ALLIANCE. SO THIS 118,000 IS GOING TO DO WHAT WHAT ARE YOU WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO FINISH WITH IT. THIS WILL PICK UP THAT WORK IN SOME REALLY TARGETED PLACES. IT'S BY NO MEANS COMPREHEN TO THE ENTIRE PLAN. THE PLAN IS AN EXHAUSTIVE ONE THAT THAT COVERS A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS OF OPERATIONS, BUDGETING, STRATEGIES, PROGRAMING. BUT WHAT WE'VE DONE IS PULL OUT SOME SPECIFIC DELIVERABLES THAT WE THINK WILL ADDRESS SOME QUESTIONS THAT ARE IMMEDIATE AT HAND, AND GIVE US SOME RESOURCES TO MOVE SOME BIG PROJECTS FORWARD. FOR EXAMPLE, WITHIN THE WORK PLAN, WHICH I BELIEVE IS ATTACHED AND PROBABLY VERY SMALL AND HARD TO READ IN YOUR MATERIALS FOR TODAY. AN EXAMPLE IS CREATING A SPONSORSHIP PROGRAM FOR PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES. THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A REVENUE GENERATING PROGRAM, AND THAT'S EVERYTHING FROM LARGE PARK ASSET SPONSORSHIPS DOWN TO PROGRAM SPONSORSHIPS, A ROBUST ADOPT A PARK PROGRAM IMPROVEMENT, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. WE'VE STARTED THAT WORK, BUT WE THINK THAT WE WILL BENEFIT FROM USING SOME OF THIS CONTRACT MONEY TO EXPAND THE SCOPE OF OUR BENCHMARKING TO PEER CITIES ACROSS THE BOARD, AS WELL AS BENCHMARKING WITHIN OUR OUR LOCAL MARKET TO FIND OUT WHAT THOSE SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES, WHAT KIND OF VALUE THEY REALLY BRING, AND TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT IN A REALLY COHESIVE AND CONSISTENT WAY. OKAY, SO THIS WON'T BE NECESSARILY FOR ANYTHING CAPITAL, BUT IT WILL BE WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY. IT'S FOR PROGRAMING TO HELP REVENUE THAT THAT'S ONE EXAMPLE. WE'RE REALLY USING THIS. WE'RE SQUEEZING EVERYTHING WE CAN OUT OF THIS FUNDING. AND THEN WILL YOU BE COMING BACK TO US AFTER THIS FOR MORE MONEY FOR SOMETHING ELSE? WE WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE BUDGET REQUESTS, BUT I THINK THAT THOSE WILL COME THAT WON'T COME THROUGH A PARKS FOR ALL SPECIFIC CONTRACT. THAT IS PART OF THE WORK THAT WE DO AS A DEPARTMENT. SO THIS IS SPECIFIC POT OF MONEY THAT HAS BEEN THERE WAS MONEY ORIGINALLY ALLOCATED TOWARDS THIS PROJECT THAT WAS TO BE CARRIED FORWARD. THAT LANGUAGE IN THE BUDGET ORDINANCE CARRIED FORWARD AGAIN TO COMPLETE THE SPEND UNDER THAT PARKS FOR ALL IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. SO WE HAVE THAT 100,000 AND WE'RE GOING TO ADD ANOTHER 18,000 TO ROUND OUT THIS WORK PLAN TO GET THESE DELIVERABLES IN HAND WITH THAT. AND WE WANTED TO TARGET SOME THINGS THAT WE REALLY THOUGHT WE WOULD BENEFIT FROM THE PROS CONSULTING EXPERTISE IN PARTICULAR. SO THAT'S THE PIECES PARTS THAT MAKE UP THE WORK PLAN AT HAND OKAY. AND WE WILL HAVE DELIVERABLES TO COME BACK WITH. THANK YOU. I FAILED TO MENTION WE HAVE ALSO IN ATTENDANCE WITH US OUR VICE CHAIR, COUNCILWOMAN BETSY RUBY, AND SHE IS IN THE QUEUE FOR THE NEXT QUESTION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO FIRST OF ALL, I AM HAPPY TO SEE THE PARKS FOR ALL PLAN CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD. AND SO IT GAVE US A DESTINATION. AND NOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE IS DEVELOPING A ROADMAP TO GET US THERE. WOULD THAT BE A FAIR DESCRIPTION OF IT FOR SOME DISCRETE PARTS OF THAT PLAN? YES, YES. AND I KNOW IT WILL BE A VERY BIG CHALLENGE TO RAISE TAXES. SO I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT OTHER AVENUES, SUCH AS SPONSORSHIP FOR DIFFERENT THINGS. ABSOLUTELY. ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO DOING INFRASTRUCTURE FIXES THAT WILL MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. I'VE GOT A TECHNICAL QUESTION AS I'M READING THROUGH THE CONTRACT AND EVERYTHING. THE CONTRACT STARTED ON JANUARY 1ST, BUT HERE WE ARE ON FEBRUARY 20TH. HOW'D THAT HAPPEN? THE FORM WAS FILLED OUT IN JANUARY AND WE GOT HERE WHEN THIS CAME BEFORE COUNCIL. SO THE CONTRACT HASN'T ACTUALLY BEEN SIGNED YET. THAT'S AWAITING YOUR APPROVAL. OKAY. I JUST I'M JUST CONFUSED AS TO HOW WE CAN ALREADY HAVE A CONTRACT IN

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SO BASICALLY, ALL THE WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE IS THE FOUNDATION FOR THEM TO START AT HITTING THE GROUND, RUNNING ON THIS ONE WITHOUT HAVING TO GO BACK AND RE CREATE THAT KNOWLEDGE BASE THAT ANOTHER CONTRACTOR WOULD HAVE TO, SO THAT THAT'S THE SPECIALIZED AND UNIQUE KNOWLEDGE THAT THEY BRING THAT ANOTHER CONTRACTOR COULDN'T AT THIS POINT WITHOUT SPENDING TIME AND EFFORT AND DOLLARS TO REGAIN THAT KNOWLEDGE. SO IS IT TYPICAL PROCESS THAT WE DON'T ALLOW ANY OTHER APPLICANTS, OR IT'S JUST BECAUSE OF THEIR KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERTISE THAT WE DIDN'T LOOK AT ANY OTHER AVENUES? IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, IT'S JUST BECAUSE THIS WAS AN EXTENSION OF A PROJECT THAT WAS ALREADY BEGUN BY THIS CONTRACTOR, AND THEY HAVE THAT SPECIALIZED KNOWLEDGE.

OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, THE STARTING POINT FOR A CONTRACT WOULD BE TO ASSUME A COMPETITIVE PROCESS. IN THIS CASE, WE'LL BE A MORE EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT CONTRACT BECAUSE WE'RE USING THE CONTRACTOR THAT ALREADY HAS THE KNOWLEDGE BASE. OKAY. MY SECOND QUESTION WAS CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHERE THE CONTRACT WILL BE FOCUSED? I WAS LOOKING AND I DIDN'T SEE BASICALLY IS THIS TO ASSIST WITH COMPLETING OR STARTING OTHER PROJECTS, OR WILL IT BE THAT WHAT THEY'RE PRIMARILY GOING TO BE DOING? DO THEY HAVE AN AREA THEY'RE FOCUSED ON, OR WILL WE BE LOOKING AT OTHER AREAS THAN WHAT HAS TYPICALLY IN THE PAST JUST LOOKED AT THOSE CERTAIN AREAS BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IT'S BEING CERTAIN AREAS ARE BEING LOOKED AT AND BEING DONE. BUT LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OF THIS BEING DONE LIKE IN THE SOUTH END. IS THAT SOMETHING THEY'RE LOOKING AT DOING OR INCORPORATING? RIGHT. SO THIS CONTRACT WON'T BE LOOKING AT SPECIFIC AREAS OR FACILITIES IN TOWN. THIS IS REALLY FOCUSING MORE ON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF SOME PROGRAMMATIC GUIDELINES LIKE THE SPONSORSHIP OF GUIDELINES, THE DEVELOPMENT OF A RECREATION PROGRAMING PLAN. THAT WOULD BE AN ENTERPRISE WIDE FOR US. WE ARE INCLUDING SOME SOME TRAINING, MATERIAL DEVELOPMENT, DATA, KNOWLEDGE AND TRANSFER INTO OUR DEPARTMENT. A LOT OF THESE ARE THE SUPPORTING STRATEGIES FOR US AS A DEPARTMENT TO CARRY FORWARD WITH SOME OF THE PARKS FOR ALL PLAN, BUT ALSO THE TYPES OF STRATEGIES FOR BUDGETING AND PROGRAMING THAT CAME OUT OF THE PLAN WHEN IT LOOKED AT BEST PRACTICES NATIONWIDE AND WHAT WE HAVE HERE, AND IDENTIFIED SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR US. SO THESE ARE NOT THIS PLAN ISN'T GOING TO BE SPECIFIC TO ANY PARK OR SET OF PARKS OR COMMUNITY CENTERS. RATHER, IT'S MORE ABOUT THE DEPARTMENT'S POLICIES AND PROGRAMS AND PROCESSES. OKAY. THANK YOU. SURE. I WANT TO HAVE A FOLLOW UP WITH COUNCILWOMAN RUBY. I THINK SOMEONE ONLINE HAD A QUESTION TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'VE BEEN TOLD PAUL RUTHERFORD MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER MY QUESTION AS TO A CONTRACT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN IN EFFECT FOR A MONTH, BUT WE HAVEN'T APPROVED IT. CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT, MR. RUTHERFORD? YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. MIKE.

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SORRY, I'M HAVING TO HOLD THE HOLD THE LAPTOP NEXT TO ME. APOLOGIES FOR THAT AGAIN. PAUL RUTHERFORD, ASSISTANT JEFFERSON COUNTY ATTORNEY. THE THING WITH THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE CONTRACT IS THAT IT TRULY IS AN EFFECTIVE LEGALLY, MA'AM, UNTIL THE COUNCIL HAS PASSED THE RESOLUTION APPROVING IT AND THE MAYOR HAS SIGNED IT. SO IT SAYS THAT IT'S EFFECTIVE EARLIER THAN YOU ALL ARE LOOKING AT IT IN ORDER, IN CASE THE CONTRACTOR HAS DONE WORK PRIOR TO IT BEING PASSED BY THE COUNCIL AND SIGNED BY THE MAYOR, THEY CAN BE PAID FOR THAT WORK. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING THE WAY THE WRITTEN THE PROBLEM IS, IS THE APPROVAL PROCESS. USUALLY IT TAKES A WHILE AFTER THE SETUP IS DONE FOR THE SCOPE TO BEGIN, FOR THE SIGNATURES TO BE GOTTEN, AND FOR THE MATTER TO BE INTRODUCED AND HEARD BY THE COUNCIL. SO THAT'S WHY SOMETIMES YOU'LL SEE A CONTRACT WITH AN EFFECTIVE DATE THAT'S ACTUALLY BEFORE THE DATE THAT YOU ALL ARE TAKING A LOOK AT IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION. ONE MORE QUESTION. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. THE PARKS FOR ALL IS AN INDEPENDENT ADVOCACY AGENCY OR ORGANIZATION. WHY ARE WE AS METRO COUNCIL OR WHY IS THE PARKS DEPARTMENT MANAGING THE CONTRACT INSTEAD OF SIMPLIFYING THE FUNDS DIRECTLY TO PARKS FOR ALL? OH OH, I WOULD HAVE TO REDIRECT THAT. PUT THE PARKS FOR ALL IS A PLAN THAT WAS CREATED THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT WAS INITIATED BY THE PARKS ALLIANCE OF LOUISVILLE, WHICH IS A INDEPENDENT NONPROFIT SUPPORTING PARKS IN LOUISVILLE.

THE PARKS FOR ALL PLAN, WHICH WAS DEVELOPED BY THE CONSULTING FIRM MENTIONED EARLIER, WAS CREATED THROUGH A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, PARKS ALLIANCE, OLMSTED PARKS CONSERVANCY AND WILDERNESS LOUISVILLE. SO THIS PLAN WAS CREATED FOR THE LOUISVILLE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT. IT WAS NOT A IT'S NOT AN EXTERNAL ENTITY ITSELF.

OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN SORRY, MY FINAL QUESTION IS WILL THIS CONTRACT SPEED UP ANY DELAYED PROJECTS DO? WILL IT HELP WITH STAFFING, STAFFING SHORTAGES OR ANY OTHER REASON THAT WE HAVE WITH PARKS? IF THE ISSUE IS STAFFING, ARE WE ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HIRE MORE STAFF WITH THIS BY ANY CHANCE, AND WHY? YEAH THAT'S IT. SORRY, THIS CONTRACT WON'T BE HIRING STAFF, BUT OUR HOPE IS THAT THIS CONTRACT WILL HELP US IMPLEMENT SOME OF THE BUDGETING STRATEGIES AND RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE PARKS FOR ALL PLAN, WHICH MAY, IN THE LONG RUN, HELP US ADDRESS MORE OF OUR MAINTENANCE AND CAPITAL NEEDS OVER TIME. THANK YOU SO MUCH, DIRECTOR. WE HAVE COUNCILWOMAN RAYMOND IN THE QUEUE. HELLO, DIRECTOR KING, DON'T YOU THINK THAT A PUBLIC ROLLER SKATING FACILITY IN LOUISVILLE WOULD BE DOPE? TOTES DOPE. THANK YOU, YEAH. DOPE.

LOVE IT. I SAID THAT THE OTHER DAY TO MY KIDS, BY THE WAY. SO I THINK. DO WE HAVE TO DO. IS IT A ROLL CALL VOTE, OR DO WE ALL IN FAVOR? WE NEED TO DO A VOICE VOTE ON THIS. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY I, I ALL OPPOSED SAY NAY. THE RESOLUTION PASSES. THANK YOU. CLOSE THE CONSENT CALENDAR. THE

[1. ID 25-0075     SOLAR STREETLIGHT OPTIONS – Sean Coffman, Streetleaf]

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SORRY FOR THE DELAY. I'M TRYING TO NAVIGATE TO GET TO OPEN THE PRESENTATION FROM. WOULD I HAVE.

NO WORRIES. WE'RE PATIENTLY WAITING. YOU PATIENTLY WAITED FOR US, SO THANK YOU.

HERE WE GO. YOU. TECHNOLOGY IS ALWAYS FUN. SO WHAT WE PREPARED FOR YOU TODAY IS JUST A BASIC OVERVIEW OF SOLAR STREET LIGHTING AND WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR BRIGHTER CITIES.

UTILIZING CLEANER ENERGY TO MAKE FOR SMARTER STREETS. WE DO HAVE A PORTION SET ASIDE TOWARDS THE END OF OUR PRESENTATION DEDICATED TO YOUR QUESTIONS. SO IF YOU THINK OF ANYTHING, PLEASE SAVE THOSE FOR THE END AND WE'LL BE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THOSE QUESTIONS TO GIVE YOU A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF SOLAR TECHNOLOGY AND SOLAR STREET LIGHTS SPECIFICALLY FOR MUNICIPALITIES. WHY ARE WE EVEN HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE? TALKING ABOUT THE TRANSITION FROM GRID TIED ELECTRICAL STREET LIGHTS TO THE TRANSITION TO A SUSTAINABLE, CLEAN ENERGY SOLAR SOLUTION FOR STREET LIGHTING, THE PROBLEMS COMPRISED IN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT BUCKETS. COMMUNITIES HAVE AN URGENT NEED FOR A RAPID AND FLEXIBLE STREET LIGHT DEPLOYMENT THAT'S NOT TIED TO POSSIBLY. YOU HAVE AREAS THAT ARE ALREADY DEVELOPED, AND SO COMING IN AND BEING ABLE TO BRING IN STREET LIGHTING, THAT'S NOT DEPENDENT ON WHERE YOU CAN TRENCH OR WHERE YOU CAN LAY CONDUIT TO BRING STREET LIGHTING IN, IS A VALUABLE PART OF BEING ABLE TO IMPLEMENT SOLAR STREET LIGHTING AS A GREAT SOLUTION, AND IS FAR MORE COST EFFECTIVE THAN HAVING TO GO IN AND LAY THOSE TRENCHES AND LAY CONDUIT. TRADITIONAL STREET LIGHTS ARE RELIANT ON SIGNIFICANT, SIGNIFICANT, AND MAINTENANCE LIABILITY. WHEN THOSE STREET LIGHTS GO DOWN, YOU'RE WAITING EITHER ON A THIRD PARTY TO COME OUT AND REPAIR THOSE, OR THE UTILITY TO COME OUT AND REPAIR THEM. DIFFERENT AREAS NOTICE DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT TIME DELAYS IN GETTING THOSE STREET LIGHTS BACK ON THE GRID AND BACK FUNCTIONAL. IN SOME CASES, WE'VE SEEN THAT FROM WEEKS TO MONTHS AT A TIME. AND AS YOU KNOW, WHEN THOSE STREET LIGHTS ARE DOWN, IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR YOUR EMERGENCY RESPONSE CREWS TO EFFECTIVELY DEPLOY INTO AREAS TO MAINTAIN SAFE, SAFE AREAS.

AGAIN, HIGH SAFETY RISKS WHERE THERE'S UNRELIABLE LIGHTING, WHERE THERE MAY BE AGING INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THEN THE HIGH ENERGY CONSUMPTION AND RELIANCE ON FOSSIL FUEL ENERGY CONTRADICTS WITH YOUR SUSTAINABILITY GOALS. SO WHAT IF THERE WAS A STREET LIGHTING SOLUTION FOR COMMUNITIES? THAT WAS EIGHT TIMES FASTER ON INSTALLATION? TIME STAYS ON WHEN THE POWER GOES OFF AND IS 100% CLEAN ENERGY, AND THAT IS THE SOLUTION THAT WE SOLVED FOR HERE AT STREET LEAF. UTILIZING SOLAR TECHNOLOGY TO PROVIDE WELL-LIT, SAFE STREETS. ALL OF OUR ALL OF OUR PHOTOMETRIC PLANS ARE EIS COMPLIANT AND ENSURE SAFE LIGHTING LEVELS. EIS IS AN

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SECONDLY, OUR INSTALLATION TIME IS ROUGHLY 15 MINUTES PER STREET LIGHT. AGAIN, THAT'S NO TRENCHING, NOT NO CONDUIT. AND SO THAT ALLOWS FOR A QUICK DEPLOYMENT AND INSTALLATION THAT PREVENTS LONG TERM DELAYS IN GETTING AREAS LIT. RELIABILITY. WE ARE 100% RENEWABLE SOLAR POWER. SO WHAT THAT MEANS WE'RE NOT TIED TO THE GRID. OUR SYSTEM IS POWERED BY THE SUN. THAT'S THEN STORED TO A BATTERY IN CASE IN THE SYSTEM. AND THAT IS WHAT POWERS THE LIGHT THROUGH THE EVENING. WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF UTILIZATION OF A RESILIENT AND CLEAN ENERGY LIKE SOLAR STREET LIGHTING? ANNUALLY, EACH SOLAR LIGHT SAVES ROUGHLY 300 POUNDS OF COAL AND OFFSETS 550 POUNDS OF CO2, IS CERTIFIED CARBON NEUTRAL AND DARK SKY APPROVED. A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT STREET LEAF AND OUR SYSTEM. WE ARE AGAIN 100% SOLAR POWERED, WHICH MEANS ZERO TRENCHING, ZERO CONDUIT, AND THAT ELIMINATES THE COST OF COSTLY INFRASTRUCTURE. THIS MAKES STREET LEAF A COST EFFECTIVE OPTION COMPARED TO STANDARD UTILITY GRID TIED OPTIONS AND QUICK, EFFICIENT DEPLOYMENT OF SYSTEMS WITHIN 15 MINUTES. SO BIG QUESTION HOW DOES IT WORK? ALL OF OUR SYSTEMS ARE. IT'S AN ALUMINUM POLE. DIRECT BURIAL. TYPICALLY WE ARE YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO.

CONCRETE BASE IN AREAS WHERE DIRECT BURIAL WOULD NOT BE AN OPTION FOR YOU. IN GENERAL, THE WAY THAT THE STREET LIGHT OPERATES IS YOUR HIGH EFFICIENCY. SOLAR PANEL ABSORBS UV, UV RAYS, THAT IS, THAT IS CONVERTED INTO ENERGY AND STORED TO A LITHIUM IRON PHOSPHATE BATTERY. A LITHIUM IRON PHOSPHATE BATTERY IS VERY SOLID STATE BATTERY SAFE FOR THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION USE, AND IS VERY RELIABLE. IT'S WHAT POWERS THE STREET LIGHT THROUGH THE NIGHT. YOUR LIGHT, YOUR LED LIGHT HEAD. SO WE'RE USING THE LATEST LED TECHNOLOGY TO POWER OUR STREET LIGHTS. THERE IS A SMART CONTROL NODE ON THE SYSTEM. THIS IS WHAT CONNECTS OUR SYSTEMS INTO A MESH NETWORK THAT ALLOWS US TO REMOTELY MONITOR OUR SYSTEMS. SO ALL WE REQUIRE IS CELL TOWER CONNECTIVITY. WE UTILIZE A SIM CARD THE SAME AS WHAT'S IN YOUR CELL PHONE. IT CONNECTS A PROJECT AREA INTO A MESH NETWORK, ALLOWS US TO COMMUNICATE BACK AND FORTH. WE'RE ABLE TO REMOTELY MONITOR, MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TOWARDS EFFICIENCY OF THE SYSTEM, AND DO SOME PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE THROUGH THAT REMOTE CONTROL.

ADDITIONALLY, ALL OF OUR LIGHTS ARE DIMMABLE. TYPICALLY, WE SEE THAT UTILIZED IN EVENING HOURS WHERE THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF ACTIVITY. YOU'LL WANT TO MAYBE DIM DOWN THE LIGHTS DURING A CERTAIN TIME TO ALLOW FOR A LOWER OUTPUT OF LIGHTING TO PRESERVE YOUR NIGHTTIME SKY, OR IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS WHERE YOU MAY NOT WANT THAT FULL BRIGHTNESS. AND THEN AS MOTION IS DETECTED UNDERNEATH THE STREET LIGHT, IT WILL FIRE IT BACK. IT WILL POWER IT BACK UP TO FULL CAPACITY. AND THEN AS THAT MOTION PASSES THROUGH, IT'S GOING TO DIM BACK DOWN AND GIVE YOU SOME SOME LIGHT POLLUTION SAVINGS THERE. AND ONE QUESTION THAT WE TYPICALLY GET WHEN WE GO OVER THIS OVERVIEW IS WHAT HAPPENS ON CLOUDY DAYS. MAYBE YOU CAN DIVE A LITTLE BIT INTO THAT. YEAH OF COURSE. SO ON SUPER CLOUDY DAYS WE'RE STILL THE SOLAR PANEL. STILL IS RECEIVING UV. WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED DIRECT SUNLIGHT, WE JUST NEED FOR SUN TO BE PRESENT. SO IT'S NOT CHARGING AT THE SAME VELOCITY AS A FULL BRIGHT SUNNY DAY, BUT A CHARGE IS STILL GOING TO THE BATTERY. AND AGAIN, ANOTHER ANOTHER FEATURE THAT TIES BACK INTO OUR REMOTE MONITORING CAPABILITY. IF WE ARE WE HAVE SOME, SOME SOME DATA COLLECTION

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EACH EACH BATTERY AT FULL CHARGE HAS ENOUGH CHARGE TO POWER THE LIGHT FOR UP TO FIVE DAYS, AND THEN WE'RE ABLE TO EXTEND THAT BY REDUCING THE OUTPUT OF THE OF THE LIGHT TO, TO GET YOU THROUGH WHATEVER STORM YOU MIGHT OR EXTREME WEATHER YOU'RE, YOU'RE ENCOUNTERING DURING THAT TIME.

AND THEN ONCE WE'RE BACK TO OUR NORMAL SUNNY WEATHER, WE'RE ABLE TO PUT IT BACK INTO NORMAL OPERATIONAL MODE. AND THEN OUR NEXT FEATURE THAT WE'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IS OUR REMOTE MONITORING DASHBOARD. AND SINCE I HAVE GIORGIO FROM OUR ENGINEERING TEAM, I'LL LET HIM SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ON THIS. THIS FALLS INTO HIS WHEELHOUSE. YEAH. THIS IS A SIMPLE DASHBOARD THAT WE PROVIDE SOME OF OUR CLIENTS OR COMMUNITY MANAGERS OR SOMETHING. THERE IS A QUICK MAP OF THE STREET LIGHTS. THIS MAP WAS FOR A PARK. THAT'S WHY YOU JUST SEE A BUNCH OF FOREST AS A BACKGROUND. BUT EACH DOT REPRESENTS A POLE. THERE'S A TOTAL OF 23 POLES AND IT GIVES YOU QUICK STATS ON WHAT THE LIGHTS ARE DOING. AT THIS POINT, IT SEEMS LIKE THEY WERE CHARGING AT 1.5 AMPS PER HOUR AND HAD ABOUT 71% CHARGE TOTAL, AND IT GIVES YOU A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THIS OF THE WEATHER SO THAT YOU CAN TELL, HEY, MY LIGHTS LOOK A LITTLE DIM OR SOMETHING LOOKS WEIRD. WHAT'S GOING ON? OR THE BATTERY HASN'T CHARGED FULLY THIS TODAY. WHAT'S GOING ON? YOU HAVE YOUR ANSWER RIGHT THERE. IT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE OF THE WEATHER. AND THEN JUST SOME MORE FACTS ON SOLAR STREET LIGHTS AND THE IMPACT OF SOLAR STREET LIGHTING THAT FOR WHAT WE HAVE INSTALLED FOR STREET LEAF, WE HAVE MORE THAN 8600 LIGHTS CURRENTLY IN OPERATION IN OUR FLEET. WE ARE THE LARGEST PROVIDER OF SOLAR STREET LIGHTS IN THE UNITED STATES. THAT HAS EQUATED TO 3.6 MILLION POUNDS OF CARBON. THAT'S BEEN OFFSET, AND $32 MILLION SAVED ON INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS. BECAUSE WE'RE NOT DIGGING TRENCHES, WE'RE NOT LAYING CONDUIT. AND WITH THAT, THAT KIND OF WRAPS UP OUR VERY HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW. WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR YOUR QUESTIONS AND KIND OF FEEDBACK YOU HAVE FOR US. AND I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. IT WAS GREAT. I HAVE A QUESTION AND I THINK WE COVERED IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR ON IT. WILL THE MONITORING INDICATE ANY OUTAGES, POWER OUTAGES OR ANYTHING THAT CAN OCCUR? YEAH. SO THE DASHBOARD THAT WE PROVIDE OBVIOUSLY RELIES OFF OF OUR DATA. SO IF THERE'S A POWER OUTAGE IN YOUR COMMUNITY OUR DASHBOARD WON'T REPORT THAT. BUT OUR OR THAT WILL REPORT ANY OUTAGES OF A STREET LIGHT. SO IF A STREET LIGHT IS NOT CONNECTED TO THE CELL TOWERS FOR SOME COMMUNICATION ISSUE, IT WILL LET YOU KNOW, HEY, THE LIGHT IS NOT COMMUNICATING PROPERLY, BUT IT'S STILL PERFORMING WELL. IF THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH THE LIGHT NOT TURNING ON, IT WILL ALSO DETECT THAT AND LET YOU KNOW AS WELL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. LET ME SEE IF THERE'S ANYBODY IN THE QUEUE HERE. SORRY. GOT TO GET BACK ON THE PAGE. AND JUST TO ADD ON TO WHAT GIORGIO SAID, ANOTHER ANOTHER FEATURE THAT WE WE'VE BUILT INTO OUR SYSTEM IS THAT WE HAVE A QR CODE ON EACH ONE OF OUR POLES. SO IF YOU'RE YOU'RE WALKING BY A STREET LIGHT AND YOU SEE SOME ISSUE WITH THAT STREET POLE, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO PULL OUT YOUR CELL PHONE, SNAP A PICTURE OF THAT QR CODE, IT WOULD IMMEDIATELY DEPLOY A SUPPORT TICKET FOR US TO BEGIN LOOKING INTO WHAT ISSUE IS GOING ON. IT WOULD TRANSMIT ALL OF THE DATA FOR THAT POLE, SO WE KNOW EXACTLY WHERE TO LOOK IN AT. HOW LONG HAVE YOU ALL BEEN IN BUSINESS? WE HAVE BEEN IN BUSINESS SINCE 2019. WONDERFUL. I'M GOING TO PASS A QUESTION TO VICE CHAIR, COUNCILWOMAN BETSY RUBY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'VE GOT SEVERAL QUESTIONS. FIRST OF

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SO OF THE COMPONENTS OF THE STREETLIGHT, THE BATTERY IS HAS A RECOMMENDED REPLACEMENT AT YEAR EIGHT. THE LIGHT THE LED LIGHT FIXTURE IS RECOMMENDED TO BE REPLACED AT YEAR TEN. AND THEN THE SOLAR PANEL IS RATED BEYOND 25 YEARS. OKAY. AND ONE LAST QUESTION. WE ALL KNOW STREET LIGHTS GET HIT BY CARS. HOW I KNOW THE POLL IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE REPLACED. ARE THESE THINGS DURABLE ENOUGH THAT WE MIGHT STILL BE ABLE TO SALVAGE SOMETHING WHEN WE HAVE TO PUT THEM BACK UP? I HAVE NOT SEEN THAT BEING THE CASE UNLESS IT WAS PECULIAR TO THAT SITUATION.

SO THE LIGHT FELL AND THE PANEL HAPPENED TO FALL IN A BUSH. THE PANEL HAPPENED TO BE FINE, BUT THAT'S NOT A GUARANTEE. OBVIOUSLY, IN EVERY MOMENT IN PLACE. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCILWOMAN BAST. THANK YOU. BETSY, I ACTUALLY ASKED MY FIRST QUESTION. SO WITH THE BATTERIES LASTING EIGHT YEARS, I KNOW A LITHIUM BATTERY CAN TAKE HUNDREDS OF YEARS TO DECOMPOSE.

THEY CAN ALSO CAUSE ENVIRONMENTAL CONTAMINATION. THEY CAN EXPLODE. THEY CAN CAUSE FIRES. SO WHAT IS YOUR PLAN FOR THAT WHEN THE EIGHT YEARS COMES UP AND WE HAVE TO DISPOSE OF THESE BATTERIES, WHERE WILL THAT DO YOU HAVE A PLAN FOR THAT OR CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT A LITTLE BIT. YEAH. SO BATTERY LITHIUM BATTERIES HAVE THIS BAD RAP OF EXPLODING AND CATCHING FIRES BECAUSE LIKE 4 OR 5 YEARS AGO, THOSE SCOOTER BATTERIES WERE UNDER EXTREME PRESSURE DURING TRAVEL TIMES AND A COUPLE OF INCIDENTS OCCURRED. AND THEY ARE SERIOUS AND CAN BE SOMETHING CHALLENGING TO DEAL WITH. BUT SINCE THEN WE HAVE COME SOME. WE HAVE HAD SOME PROGRESS AND OUR BATTERIES DON'T HAVE THE SAME ARCHITECTURE THAT THE BATTERIES THAT USED TO EXPLODE AND CATCH ON FIRE DO THE SAME CHEMISTRY. I'M NOT GOING TO LIE THERE, BUT THE ARCHITECTURE IS DIFFERENT, MUCH LIKE THE ARCHITECTURE OF A BATTERY FOR A CAR OR A SCOOTER IS DIFFERENT FOR A LIGHT. FOR THE SAME REASON THAT A CAR NEEDS TO GO VERY FAST, VERY QUICKLY, AND OUTPUT A LOT OF ENERGY VERY QUICKLY. SCOOTER IS VERY SIMILAR, JUST IN A SMALLER SIZE, A STREET LIGHT BY AND LARGE IS PUSHING ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT OF ENERGY EVERY DAY JUST TO DO IT EVERY DAY FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. SO THEIR ARCHITECTURE, BEING THAT DIFFERENT, ALLOWS IT TO BE SAFER AND MORE SECURE. AND THE A I'VE BEEN WITH THE COMPANY FOUR AND A HALF YEARS, I'VE NEVER SEEN A BATTERY EXPLODE OR CATCH ON FIRE. I'VE SEEN BATTERIES FALL BY BEING HIT BY CARS. I'VE SEEN BATTERIES HAVE MANUFACTURING ISSUES. WE CAUGHT THEM AT THE MANUFACTURING SITE BEFORE BEING DEPLOYED, BUT NONE OF THEM HAD A HAZARDOUS EFFECT IN TERMS OF EXPLODING A FIRE. NOW, WHEN IT COMES TO RECYCLING BATTERIES, IT'S DEFINITELY A CHALLENGE EVERYWHERE. IT'S NOT ONLY FOR US, ANY STREETLIGHT THAT HAS A BATTERY TECHNOLOGY WILL HAVE THIS ISSUE, BUT AT YEAR EIGHT, WE RECOMMENDED POSSIBLY CHANGING IT. IF YOU GO THROUGH US, WE WILL PROVIDE A NEW BATTERY AND TAKE THE OLD ONE

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FOR NOW, WE WOULD STILL USE THE MANUFACTURER AND THEY HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY AND ABILITY TO REPURCHASE IN A SENSE IN SOME CASES, OR JUST RECYCLE THE BATTERY COMPLETELY. IF NOT, WE'LL HAVE TO GO WITH SOMEONE LOCAL. OKAY, SO I DO KNOW THE PROCESS IS COMPLEX. AND DO WE LOOK AT FUTURE THIS BEING COSTLY FOR THE ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF IT? WILL THE MAINTENANCE OF IT BE EASY TO MAINTAIN GOING FORWARD? YEAH, SO I ACTUALLY HANDLE A LOT OF THE MAINTENANCE ISSUES. I DON'T PERSONALLY GO IN THE BUCKET TRUCK AND FIXING THEM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT I OVERSEE THAT DEPARTMENT AS WELL HERE IN FLORIDA. AND I MEAN, OUTSIDE OF ISSUES THAT COME ABOUT DUE TO ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS LIKE HURRICANES THAT HIT OUR LIVES AND SOMETHING CRAZY HAPPENS TO THEM, WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT MANY CONCERNS FOR REPAIRS. OUR TURNAROUND TIME IS USUALLY SEVEN DAYS OR LESS TO COMPLETELY FIX THE LIGHT, TO VISIT IT AND MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS OKAY AND SAFE. IT'S USUALLY A TWO DAY RESPONSE TIME. HAVING NO CONDUIT, NO TRENCHING LIKE THAT MEANS THAT YOU DON'T NEED SKILLED LABOR TO ACTUALLY HANDLE THIS MATERIAL AND LIGHTS. ANYONE THAT THAT KNOWS HOW TO USE A SCREWDRIVER CAN PROBABLY INSTALL ONE OF THESE LIGHTS. IT'S VERY MUCH NOT THAT COMPLEX. THE ONLY DIFFICULTY IS THAT IT'S 20FT IN THE AIR. SO COMPARED TO TRADITIONAL STREET LIGHT, IT'S A LOT CHEAPER TO FIX BECAUSE YOU DON'T NEED A MASTER ELECTRICIAN THAT CAN GO DOWN THERE. TURN OFF 240 VOLT POWER, HANDLE A STREET LIGHT AND THEN GO BACK. FOR US, IT'S JUST HERE'S A NEW PART. GO UP THERE AND SWAP IT OUT AND THAT'S IT. OKAY, ONE LAST QUESTION. YOU HAD MENTIONED. IT WOULD BE VERY COST EFFECTIVE FOR, SAY, RESIDENTS. FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE I, I PAY FOR A STREET LIGHT ON MY STREET AND IT'S $12 EXTRA A MONTH ON MY BILL. DO WE EXPECT THAT TO BE A LOWER COST FOR PEOPLE TO, TO PAY FOR SAFETY FOR THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS? IT WOULD PURELY DETERMINE ON WHAT WHAT THE CITY AND HOW THE CITY INTENDS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WITH PURCHASING THE LIGHT. ARE THEY ARE THEY PURCHASING OUTRIGHT AND PURCHASING THAT? YOU OWN IT AND THEN IT'S FULLY YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. AGAIN, ONCE YOU PURCHASE A SOLAR STREET LIGHT, IT'S INSTALLED. THE COST IS ALL IN THAT IN THAT ONE PURCHASE ITEM. AND THEN THERE'S NO RECURRING BILL ONCE IT'S BEEN PURCHASED AND INSTALLED, THERE'S NO ONGOING ELECTRICAL BILL. WE ALSO OFFER AN OPTION THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE TO UTILIZE, WHICH IS A SERVICE AGREEMENT. IN THAT SERVICE AGREEMENT, THAT COST WOULD INCLUDE THE WE WOULD OWN THE STREET LIGHT. YOU WOULD SIMPLY BE PAYING FOR THE SERVICE OF THE STREET LIGHT, SIMILAR TO WHAT UTILITIES DO. AND THEN WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THOSE SERVICEABLE PARTS ON ON THOSE SCHEDULES AND THEN ANY ONGOING MAINTENANCE WITH THE SYSTEM. SO IF THERE WERE SOME KIND OF ISSUE WITH THE SYSTEM, WE WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR RESPONDING TO THAT. WE WOULD ALSO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR REPLACING THE BATTERY OR REPLACING THE FIXTURE AND REPLACING THE SOLAR PANEL ON THE TERM OF THAT SERVICE AGREEMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN BASS, I HAVE A QUESTION IN REGARDS TO DO YOU HAVE ANY STUDIES OR STATISTICS ON CRIME REDUCTION IN COMMUNITIES THAT YOU'VE USED THESE THESE SOLAR PANEL LIGHTS? YEAH, I MEAN, WE HAVE WE HAVE HAD NO INSTANCES OF ANY TYPE OF VANDALISM OR THEFT ON OUR INSTALLED SYSTEMS. THERE'S NOTHING IN THE SYSTEM TO STEAL A VALUE. IT'S NOT LIKE THERE'S NO COPPER WIRING IN IT. SO WE HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED ANY TYPE OF VANDALISM IN OUR PROJECTS. THANK YOU. VICE CHAIR. RUDY. THANK YOU. COULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN FOR US WHAT DARK SKY COMPLIANT MEANS? ABSOLUTELY. SO DARK SKY IS A CERTIFICATION OF PRODUCTS THAT REDUCE SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE LIGHT POLLUTION AND ADHERES TO SOME AMA HEALTH STANDARDS OR FOR HEALTHIER SLEEP PATTERNS AND NOT HAVING EXCESSIVE LIGHT

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COUNCILWOMAN MARILYN PARKER. THANK YOU. YOU GUYS MENTIONED THAT THE STREET LIGHTS DEPEND ON CELL TOWERS TO OPERATE. SO I GUESS I HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS REGARDING THAT. IF A CELL TOWER GOES DOWN, DOES THE STREET LIGHT BECOME INOPERATIVE? OPERABLE UNTIL THE CELL TOWER IS FIXED? GOOD QUESTION. NO. SO WHAT WE MEAN BY CELL TOWER AND THE DEPENDANCE OF CELL TOWER IS THE COMMUNICATION WITH STREET LIGHTS WITH OUR SYSTEM. SO THE DASHBOARD THAT YOU GUYS SEEN AN EXAMPLE OF EARLIER THAT'S SHOWING 23 LIGHTS ARE CONNECTED AND WORKING IN THIS PARK. SO THAT WORKS AND IS UPDATED DUE TO THE CELL TOWER. WE CAN ALSO UPDATE AND CHANGE THE PROGRAMING OF THE STREET LIGHT. SAY YOU WANT A MORE AGGRESSIVE LIGHTING BECAUSE IT'S 4TH OF JULY AND PEOPLE ARE THROWING A LOT OF FIREWORKS AROUND. THERE'S A LOT OF SMOKE. MAYBE WE WANT A LITTLE BIT STRONGER LIGHTS. WE CAN DO THAT. WE NEED THE LIGHTS TO BE CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET IN ORDER TO DO THAT. IF THE LIGHTS ARE NOT CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET, THEY STILL OPERATE.

BASED ON THE LAST UPDATE THAT THE OPERATION OF THE STREET LIGHTS IS PURELY BASED ON HOW MUCH SUNLIGHT IS THE PANEL GETTING. SO THE PANEL ACTS AS A GIANT PHOTOCELL, AND WHEN IT DETECTS THAT IT'S NO LONGER GETTING SUNLIGHT BECAUSE THE SUN SET, IT SAYS, WELL, IT'S NIGHTTIME AND IT JUST TURNS ON AND IT TRIES TO REMEMBER THE LAST UPDATE PROGRAM IT HAS AND USES THAT. SO DID I HEAR YOU SAY THAT? SAY YOUR IN AN AREA WHERE THERE IS NO CELL TOWER, THAT THE LIGHTS WILL STILL WORK. YES, IN ORDER TO PROGRAM THE LIGHTS AND CHANGE THE PROGRAMING OF THE LIGHTS, WE NEED TO GO IN PERSON AND VISIT THEM. BUT THE LIGHTS WILL OPERATE REGARDLESS OF IT BEING CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET OR NOT. OKAY, AND ONE OTHER QUESTION. WHAT IS THE COST OF INSTALLATION OF A SOLAR LIGHT VERSUS A STANDARD STREET LIGHT AND THE COST OF SERVICING EACH ONE OF THOSE? THE COMPARISON. I DO NOT HAVE THE UTILITY SERVICING RATES JUST BECAUSE IT'S IT VARIES FROM LOCATION TO LOCATION DEPENDING ON LIKE WHAT'S THE COST TO RUN CONDUIT.

WHAT'S THE COST OF TRENCHING IS VERY DIFFERENT BASED ON GEOGRAPHY AND SOIL STRATIGRAPHY.

FOR US, OUR AVERAGE INSTALLATION COST PER STREETLIGHT IS ROUGHLY $550 PER STREET LIGHT. OKAY, DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? IT'S GOOD ENOUGH. THANK YOU. OKAY, OKAY. I HAVE NOBODY ELSE IN THE QUEUE. I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING MORE ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS AND OTHER BUSINESSES LIKE YOURS. AND AS WE PROGRESS TO SUSTAINABILITY IN LOUISVILLE AND MOVE FORWARD TOWARDS SOMETHING. SO WE'LL BE WE'LL BE IN CONTACT. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. YES. THANK YOU. WITH NO OTHER BUSINESS ON THE AGENDA, WE

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