[3. ID 25-0067 Council Member Batshon will recognize Family Resource Coordinators at the Youth Service Centers located inside Jefferson County Public Schools. ]

ARE YOU ALL TODAY? I WANT TO THANK MR. MR. PRESIDENT FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. AND I'VE ASKED MISS HOFFNER UP HERE, DOCTOR HOFFNER WITH THE FRISKIES FOR JAKE. WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT HER WITH A PROCLAMATION. BUT I WANT TO READ I WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU AGAIN TONIGHT. TONIGHT WE CELEBRATE THE INCREDIBLE FAMILY RESOURCE AND YOUTH SERVICE COORDINATORS FOR JAKE PUBLIC SCHOOLS DURING THIS WEEK'S FRISKY APPRECIATION WEEK. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, BEHIND ME ARE THE BACKBONE OF OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM TIRES. TIRELESSLY SUPPORTING OUR STUDENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES. YOUR DEDICATION GOES BEYOND IMPROVING ATTENDANCE, BEHAVIOR, AND ACADEMICS. YOU ARE THE CARETAKERS, THE MOTIVATORS AND PEACEMAKERS, PROVIDING ESSENTIAL NEEDS LIKE CLOTHING AND FOOD. YOUR COMPASSION HARD WORK HAVE TOUCHED COUNTLESS LIVES, INCLUDING MINE. WHEN I WAS A STUDENT AT PRP, YOU WERE THE HEART AND SOUL OF OUR COMMUNITY, AND YOU'RE INCREDIBLY GRATEFUL. WE ARE INCREDIBLY GRATEFUL FOR ALL YOU DO. LET'S REMEMBER YOUR IMPACT EXTENDS FAR BEYOND THIS WEEK. YOUR EFFORTS UPLIFT OUR FAMILIES. CREATE A BRIGHTER FUTURE FOR OUR STUDENTS EVERY DAY. IT IS MY HONOR TO PRESENT THIS PROCLAMATION TO DOCTOR SHOFFNER, THE MANAGER OF JCPS PUBLIC SCHOOL FAMILY RESOURCE AND YOUTH SERVICE CENTER. EACH FRISKY WILL RECEIVE THEIR OWN PROCLAMATION, THANKING THEM FOR THEIR UNWAVERING COMMITMENT TO EVERYONE HERE TONIGHT. I URGE YOU TO SUPPORT OUR FRISKIES IN ANY WAY YOU CAN, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH VOLUNTEERING, DONATIONS OR SOMETHING, OR SIMPLY SPREADING THE WORD ABOUT THEIR VITAL WORK. YOUR SUPPORT CAN MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE. I'M GOING TO READ THE PROCLAMATION HERE AND I'M GOING TO PRESENT IT TO DOCTOR GOTHNER. BUT WE ARE GOING TO SEND 128 129 FRISKIES A PROCLAMATION IN THE MAIL, AND I'M GOING TO READ HERE. TO HALT. TWO WHO TO ALL WHOM THESE LETTERS SHALL COME. GREETINGS. NOW KNOW THAT NOW BE. THE LOUISVILLE METRO COUNCIL HEREBY HONORS AND RECOGNIZES. PHILIP KNOWS HOW HARD IT IS TO READ. HE'S READ A FEW OF THESE. YEAH.

DOCTOR. DOCTOR. WHEREAS FAMILY RESOURCE AND YOUTH SERVICE COORDINATORS. FRISKIES PROVIDE CRITICAL SUPPORT TO STUDENTS AND FAMILIES BY ADDRESSING BARRIERS TO LEARNING AND WELL-BEING.

WHEREAS FRISKIES CONNECTS FAMILIES WITH ESSENTIAL RESOURCES, RESOURCES INCLUDING FOOD, CLOTHING, MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, AND ACADEMIC SUPPORT, ENSURING STUDENTS HAVE ALL THE TOOLS THEY NEED TO SUCCEED. WHEREAS COORDINATORS SERVE A VITAL LINK BETWEEN SCHOOLS, COMMUNITIES AND SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS, FOSTERING PARTNERSHIPS THAT STRENGTHEN STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT. AND WHEREAS THE HARD WORK PROFESSIONALS GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THEIR ROLES, OFTEN SERVING AS MENTORS, ADVOCATES, AND TRUSTED ALLIES FOR STUDENTS FACING DIFFICULT

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CIRCUMSTANCES. AND WHEREAS THEIR DEDICATION AND COMPASSION MAKING LAST LASTING IMPACTS IN THE LIVES OF STUDENTS AND FAMILIES ACROSS OUR COUNTY. NOW, THEREFORE, IN RECOGNITION OF THEIR OUTSTANDING CONTRIBUTIONS, WE HEREBY CONFER THIS HONOR WITH ALL THE RIGHTS, PRIVILEGES AND RESPONSIBILITIES ON THEREFORE UNTO AND TESTIMONY WHEREOF WE HAVE CAUSED. THESE LETTERS MADE AND SEALED THE LOUISVILLE METRO GOVERNMENT HERE ON TO AFFIXED. DOCTOR, WE PRESENT YOU WITH THIS PROCLAMATION TODAY, AND EVERY ONE OF YOU ALL WILL RECEIVE ONE. IN THE COMING WEEKS IN THE MAIL.

AND I CANNOT THANK YOU ALL ENOUGH FOR ALL THE HARD WORK YOU DO. SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

LISTEN, I APPRECIATE YOU. BOTH. THANK YOU. MIGHT NEED TO PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE.

THERE WE GO. YEP. THAT LOOKS GREAT. EVERYBODY LOOK UP. ONE. TWO. THREE. GREAT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU ALL. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO MUCH. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. SO THERE IS A.

[1. ID 25-0035 Council Member Chappell will recognize the Kentucky Derby Museum and declare February 13, 2025 as “Black Heritage in Racing Day.”]

COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL. BELIEVE YOU HAVE A SPECIAL GUEST. SO. ABSOLUTELY. YES. OKAY. HI, PAT.

HI. GOOD EVENING. HI. HOW'S IT GOING? ALL RIGHT. HELLO, EVERYONE. THANK YOU. PRESIDENT.

I'M GIVING A PROCLAMATION TODAY. I'VE GOT MY FRIENDS HERE FROM THE KENTUCKY DERBY MUSEUM, WHICH IS PROUDLY LOCATED IN DISTRICT 15. AND I'M ISSUING A PROCLAMATION. TO HONOR THE KENTUCKY DERBY MUSEUM'S COMMUNITY CELEBRATION, BLACK HERITAGE AND RACING DAY. I'LL READ THROUGH THE PROCLAMATION, AND THEN I'LL INVITE MY FRIENDS. FROM KTM TO COME OVER AND SPEAK ABOUT IT. BUT WHEREAS THE KENTUCKY DERBY HOLDS A CHERISHED PLACE IN LOUISVILLE'S CULTURE, AND THE KENTUCKY DERBY MUSEUM HAS PRESERVED ITS HISTORY GLOBALLY. AND WHEREAS SINCE 1985, THE MUSEUM, A DEDICATED NONPROFIT, HAS EDUCATED AND ENGAGED THE COMMUNITY ABOUT DERBY BY PROUDLY DISPLAYING INFORMATIONAL EXHIBITS RELATED TO HORSE RACING AND DERBY HISTORY. AND WHEREAS THE FIRST PERMANENT EXHIBIT DEDICATED TO BLACK JOCKEYS OPENED IN 1992 THROUGH A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT EFFORT BETWEEN THE MUSEUM AND THE UNIVERSITY OF LOUISVILLE, WHICH IS ALSO LOCATED PROUDLY IN DISTRICT 15. AND WHEREAS THE EXHIBIT HAS EXPERIENCED SUCCESS BOTH INSIDE AND OUTSIDE THE MUSEUM, EXPANDING TENFOLD IN 2021 AND SERVING AS A TRAVELING EXHIBIT IN 2022, AND PLANS TO UPGRADE IN 2025. AND WHEREAS THE MUSEUM IS CELEBRATING ITS 40 YEARS OF EDUCATION AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THIS YEAR. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE LOUISVILLE METRO COUNCIL HEREBY HONORS THE KENTUCKY DERBY MUSEUM AND THEIR CELEBRATION OF BLACK HERITAGE IN RACING. WE HEREBY CONFER THIS RECOGNITION WITH ALL RIGHTS, PRIVILEGES, RESPONSIBILITIES THEREUNTO APPERTAINING. THEREFORE, TO THE LETTERS THAT THIS IS A FIXED BE MADE AND THE METRO SEAL BE AFFIXED. TO THE KENTUCKY DERBY MUSEUM. SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME ON UP. THIS IS I'LL HAND IT OVER TO PAT ARMSTRONG, THE PRESIDENT OF THE KENTUCKY DERBY MUSEUM. WE ARE SO HONORED TO RECEIVE THIS PROCLAMATION ON BEHALF OF THE MUSEUM. AND WE'RE ALSO HONORED TO FEATURE THE BLACK HERITAGE AND RACING EXHIBIT ON THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE MAIN FLOOR OF THE MUSEUM EACH DAY. LAST YEAR, WE HAD OVER 30,000 STUDENTS COME THROUGH THE MUSEUM ON FIELD TRIPS AND THROUGH OUR EDUCATION OUTREACH PROGRAM. SO THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF BLACK JOCKEYS AND ALL THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE WITH THE BLACK HERITAGE AND RACING EXHIBIT ARE WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THAT AND HOPE THAT IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO THE MUSEUM TO TAKE THAT IN, THAT YOU'LL

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COME AND SEE US. THANKS AGAIN FOR THE PROCLAMATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'LL HAND THIS OFF.

AND I JUST WANT TO SAY AGAIN, WE'RE CELEBRATING 40 YEARS OF THE KENTUCKY DERBY MUSEUM, WHICH IS LOCATED RIGHT NEXT TO CHURCHILL DOWNS. AND SO IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO GO OVER THERE, NOT ONLY IS THE BLACK JOCKEY EXHIBIT REALLY WONDERFUL, BUT ALL OF THE OTHER NEW EXHIBITS THAT THEY HAVE, AS WELL AS AN UPGRADED EXPERIENCE FOR THE WHAT'S THE GREATEST RACE. SO YES, THE MOVIE AND THEN THE ANIMATRONIC SEMI ANIMATRONIC HORSE EXHIBIT RIDERS UP. THAT WAS ALSO JUST UPDATED. SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED AND PRIVILEGED TO HAVE THIS GEM NOT ONLY OF LOUISVILLE, BUT ALSO FOR LOUISVILLIANS, BUT ALSO FOR THE ENTIRE WORLD TO COME HERE AND EXPERIENCE. SO THANK YOU EVERYDAY FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR THE KENTUCKY DERBY AND KENTUCKY AND LOUISVILLE. GREAT. THANK YOU. SO. THANK YOU. ONE. TWO THREE. THANK YOU.

[Addresses to the Council]

MADAM CLERK, ARE THERE ANY ADDRESSES TO COUNCIL? YES, SIR. THERE ARE. LET ME REMIND THOSE AT MAKING ADDRESSES TO COUNCIL TO REFRAIN FROM USING PROFANITY OR MAKING DEROGATORY STATEMENTS TO COUNCIL MEMBERS. MAY PLEASE CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER, MEGAN STRAUB. HELLO, EVERYONE. I HOPE YOU ALL ARE DOING WELL. I AM SPEAKING ON TRANSGENDER RIGHTS IN LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY. SO I URGE THE MEMBERS OF THE METRO COUNCIL TO TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION TO PROTECT TRANSGENDER PEOPLE IN LOUISVILLE IN LIGHT OF INCREASING ATTACKS ON OUR TRANSGENDER COMMUNITY AND THE CURRENT PRESIDENTIAL ADMINISTRATIONS HOSTILE STANCE TOWARDS TRANSGENDER RIGHTS.

COMPREHENSIVE LEGISLATION PROTECTING TRANSGENDER INDIVIDUALS IS MORE IMPORTANT NOW THAN IT HAS EVER BEEN. I SPECIFICALLY URGE PROTECTIONS FOR GENDER AFFIRMING CARE FOR SOCIAL TRANSITIONING AND THE USE OF PREFERRED PRONOUNS TO BE ALLOWED IN JCPS SCHOOLS.

STUDENTS RIGHT TO PRIVACY IN THEIR GENDER IDENTITY AND ACCESS TO BATHROOMS CONSISTENT WITH GENDER IDENTITY AND PROTECTION FOR TRANSGENDER ATHLETES. I URGE YOU TO USE YOUR INFLUENCE AS METRO COUNCIL MEMBERS. TO WORK TO OPPOSE THE LEGISLATION OF SENATE BILL 150, ALONG WITH ALL OTHER LEGISLATION AND LEGISLATION, ATTEMPTS THAT REPRESS TRANSGENDER IDENTITIES, INHIBIT GENDER AFFIRMING CARE, AND OTHERWISE ENDANGER TRANSGENDER PEOPLE. TO MAKE SURE THAT LOUISVILLE STAYS A SAFE CITY FOR OUR TRANSGENDER NEIGHBORS. TRANSGENDER IDENTITIES ARE REAL. GENDER AFFIRMING CARE, REDUCES GENDER DYSPHORIA, AND TRANSPHOBIC LEGISLATION WILL ONLY HARM OUR COMMUNITY. A 2022 STUDY COMPLETED BY THE UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON FOUND THAT GENDER AFFIRMING CARE IS ASSOCIATED WITH DRASTIC DECREASES IN DEPRESSION AND SUICIDAL IDEATION AMONGST TRANSGENDER AND NON-BINARY YOUTH. THIS IS ONE OF MANY STUDIES POINTING TO GENDER AFFIRMING CARE BEING AN EFFECTIVE AND VALID FORM OF MEDICAL CARE FOR TRANSGENDER INDIVIDUALS. MEANWHILE, A 2024 STUDY BY THE TREVOR PROJECT HAS SHOWN THAT PASSAGE OF STATE LEVEL ANTI-TRANSGENDER LAWS CORRELATES WITH INCREASED SUICIDE ATTEMPTS AMONGST TRANSGENDER AND NON-BINARY YOUTH. SILENCE OR INACTION IN THIS MOMENT WILL ENABLE THE FURTHER ESCALATION AND PERSECUTION OF OUR TRANSGENDER COMMUNITY. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. JEFF CAVALCANTI. HELLO, COUNCIL. A WORLDWIDE CONFERENCE ON THE USE OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE IN SOCIETY JUST CONCLUDED. OPEN AI, INCORPORATED IS ONE OF THE TOP PLAYERS IN THE APPLICATION OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. ON PAGE 54 OF THE SIGMA SQUARED PROPOSAL, OPEN AI INCORPORATED IS NAMED AS THE AUTHORIZER SUBPROCESSOR OF THIS CONTRACT. ALL THE PERSONAL DATA OF LMPD IS TO BE SENT TO THEM. ON PAGE TWO, IT IS STATED POLICE

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DEPARTMENTS ACROSS THE WORLD HAVE BEEN INUNDATED WITH NONSENSE STATISTICS AND FORCED TO CORRECT PROBLEMS THAT OFTEN ARE NOT REAL PROBLEMS. HOW ABOUT THIS QUOTE RIGOROUSLY TESTED ANALYTICS THAT PROVIDE DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN DISPARITY AND POLICING VERSUS BIAS, AND A MEASURE OF WHAT YOUR POLICING STATISTICS LOOK LIKE? IF THEY WERE BIASED FREE? IN HIS 2018 RECONCILING RESULTS ON RACIAL DIFFERENCES IN POLICE SHOOTINGS, DOCTOR FRYER SAYS ON PAGE FOUR, A SECOND CONCERN IS THE RELIABILITY OF POLICE DEPARTMENTS REPORTS. POLICE OFFICERS MAY BEND THE TRUTH ABOUT THE CONTEXT OF PARTICULAR INTERACTION SO AS TO JUSTIFY THEIR OWN ACTIONS. BACK TO THE PROPOSAL, PAGE 48. UNDER 2.1, CUSTOMER IS SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ACCURACY, QUALITY AND LEGALITY OF THE PERSONAL DATA PROVIDED TO SIGMA SQUARE. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. HOW WILL BODY CAM FOOTAGE BE RIGOROUSLY ANALYZED IN CREATING A BIAS FREE LOOK AT LMPD POLICING? AFTER GIVING THE FOP EVERYTHING, WE GOT A LAWSUIT BLOCKING THE CONSENT DECREE BECAUSE THEY WOULD LOSE LEVERAGE OVER THE CITY. ARE WE GOING TO COMMIT TO THIS ONLY TO HAVE FOP BLOCK SENDING PERSONAL DATA TO OPENAI? WHAT'S THE DISCIPLINE PROCESS FOR AN UNTRUTHFUL OFFICER MANIPULATING THE DATA STREAM? HOW WILL LMPD HANDLE NEGATIVE FEEDBACK FROM SIGMA SQUARE? AFTER SEEING HOW THE CHIEF HANDLED THE OIG REPORT? THE CRIER SHOOTING THIS IS GOING TO BE A WASTE OF MONEY. IS HE GOING TO THREATEN THAT PROTESTERS ARE COMING BACK TO THE STREET EVERY TIME ELEANOR IS CRITICIZED? THEN THERE IS THE COMMITTEE MEETING.

THERE WAS NO REPRESENTATIVE FROM LPD, THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. SIGMA SQUARE, THE SPONSOR OF THE BILL, WASN'T EVEN AVAILABLE, BUT IT GOT RUBBER STAMPED WITHOUT A PEEP. IN FACT, IT ALMOST MADE THE CONSENT CALENDAR. THIS IS A SOLE SOURCE CONTRACT. IT IS THE CURRENT FAD AND A DEVELOPING TECHNOLOGY. WE DO NOT NEED TO BE AN EXPERIMENT CITY. WE HAVE REAL INTELLIGENCE FROM PREVIOUS OLD SCHOOL INVESTIGATIONS. THE LMPD IS BIASED AND CORRUPTION EXISTS. I DON'T NEED LMPD POLICING TO BE WHITEWASHED BY ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. WE HAVE A NEGOTIATED SIGNED CONSENT DECREE. WE NEED TO ACT ON IT. WE NEED METRO COUNCIL TO MAKE SURE THE FUNDING FOR AN INDEPENDENT MONITOR IS IN PLACE YEARLY. THAT'S 0.6% OF WHAT WE GIVE LMPD. THIS RESOLUTION NEEDS TO BE SENT BACK TO COMMITTEE TO BE TABLED. LET'S SPEND OUR MONEY ON REAL INTELLIGENCE, NOT MANIPULATED STATISTICS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THAT CONCLUDES THE ADDRESSES TO

[Council Minutes]

COUNCIL. NEXT, WE HAVE THE APPROVAL OF COUNCIL MINUTES FOR THE REGULAR MEETING OF JANUARY 30TH, 2025. ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS OR DELETIONS? MAY I HAVE A MOTION? MOTION AND A SECOND MINUTES HAVE BEEN PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. I BEEN IN OPPOSITION. HEARING NO OPPOSITION. THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED AS WRITTEN. NEXT WE

[Committee Minutes]

HAVE APPROVAL OF FALLEN COUNCIL MINUTES. COMMITTEE MEETINGS, MINUTES. ALL IN 2025. THE

[6. ID 25-0053 Special: Committee of the Whole – January 30, 2025]

[7. ID 25-0044 Regular: Planning and Zoning Committee – February 4, 2025]

SPECIAL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE JANUARY 30TH. THE REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE.

[8. ID 25-0047 Regular: Labor and Economic Development Committee – February 4, 2025]

FEBRUARY 4TH. REGULAR LABOR AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE. FEBRUARY 4TH. REGULAR GOVERNMENT

[9. ID 25-0046 Regular: Government Oversight/Audit and Appointments Committee – February 4, 2025]

[10. ID 25-0045 Regular: Equity, Community Affairs, Housing, Health and Education Committee – February 5, 2025]

OVERSIGHT, AUDIT AND APPOINTMENTS COMMITTEE, FEBRUARY 4TH. REGULAR EQUITY, COMMUNITY

[11. ID 25-0048 Regular: Appropriations Committee – February 5, 2025]

AFFAIRS, HOUSING, HEALTH AND EDUCATION COMMITTEE FOR THE FIFTH REGULAR APPROPRIATIONS

[12. ID 25-0049 Regular: Public Safety Committee – February 5, 2025]

[13. ID 25-0050 Regular: Parks and Sustainability Committee – February 6, 2025]

COMMITTEE FEBRUARY 5TH REGULAR PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, FEBRUARY 5TH. REGULAR PARKS AND

[14. ID 25-0051 Regular: Budget Committee – February 6, 2025]

SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE, FEBRUARY 6TH REGULAR BUDGET COMMITTEE, FEBRUARY 6TH. ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS OR DELETIONS? MAY HAVE A MOTION. SECOND MOTION. MR. IMPROPERLY MOVED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSITION? HEARING OPPOSITION. THE MINUTES ARE

[Communications to the Council]

APPROVED AS WRITTEN. MADAM CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANY COMMUNICATIONS TO THE COUNCIL?

[15. ID 25-0061 Brightside Board of Directors – Abigail Griggs, Amy Whelan, Brandon Schaefer, Donald Robinson (Reappointments). Metro Council approval is not required.]

YES, SIR. WE DO. PLEASE READ THOSE. DEAR PRESIDENT AKERSON, I'M REAPPOINTING THE FOLLOWING TO THE BRIGHT SIDE. BOARD OF DIRECTORS ABIGAIL GRIGGS A REAPPOINTMENT TERM EXPIRES DECEMBER 31ST, 2027. AMY WHALEN A REAPPOINTMENT TERM EXPIRES DECEMBER 31ST, 2027. BRANDON SCHAEFER A REAPPOINTMENT TERM EXPIRES DECEMBER 31ST, 2027. DONALD ROBINSON A REAPPOINTMENT TERM EXPIRES DECEMBER 31ST, 2027. THIS WILL BE READ INTO THE RECORD ONLY. METRO COUNCIL

[16. ID 25-0062 Juneteenth Jubilee Commission – Jerome Baker, Dr. John Chenault (New Appointments).]

APPROVAL OF THESE APPOINTMENTS IS NOT REQUIRED. SINCERELY, CRAIG GREENBERG, MAYOR. DEAR PRESIDENT ATKINSON, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ORDINANCE, I'M APPOINTING THE FOLLOWING TO THE JUNETEENTH JUBILEE COMMISSION CHAIR JEROME BAKER. A NEW APPOINTMENT TERM EXPIRES APRIL THE 29TH, 2027. DOCTOR JOHN SHENAULT AND A NEW APPOINTMENT TERM EXPIRES APRIL THE 29TH, 2027. YOUR PROMPT ACTION ON THESE APPOINTMENTS IS MOST APPRECIATED. SINCERELY,

[17. ID 25-0063 Louisville Downtown Management District Board – Melissa Jacobi, Joshua Mosher, Kellie Stallard Watson (New Appointments) and Matt Ayers, Sean Crofton, Josh Zik (Reappointments).]

CRAIG GREENBERG MAYOR DEAR PRESIDENT ANDERSON, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ORDINANCE, I'M APPOINTING THE AND REAPPOINTING THE FOLLOWING TO THE LOUISVILLE DOWNTOWN MANAGEMENT DISTRICT BOARD. MELISSA JACOBY A NEW APPOINTMENT TERM EXPIRES MARCH THE 3RD, 2028. JOSEPH JOSHUA MOSHER A NEW APPOINTMENT TERM EXPIRES MARCH THE 3RD, 2028. KELLY WATSON A NEW APPOINTMENT TERM EXPIRES MARCH 3RD, 2028. MATT AYERS A REAPPOINTMENT TERM EXPIRES APRIL THE 15TH, 2028 SEAN CROFTON A REAPPOINTMENT TERM EXPIRES APRIL THE 15TH, 2028 JOSH ZICK A

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REAPPOINTMENT TERM EXPIRES DECEMBER THE 2ND, 2027 YOUR PROMPT ACTION OF THIS. THESE REAPPOINTMENT IS MOST APPRECIATED. SINCERELY, CRAIG GREENBERG, MAYOR. FOR THOSE APPOINTMENTS NEEDING COUNCIL APPROVAL WILL BE FORWARDED THE GOVERNMENT OVERSIGHT, AUDIT AND APPOINTMENTS COMMITTEE. OUR NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE CONSENT CALENDAR. THE CONSENT COMPRISES

[Consent Calendar]

OF ITEMS 18 THROUGH 30. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS? MADAM CLERK, A SECOND

[Legislation forwarded from BUDGET COMMITTEE]

READING OF THESE ITEMS. THE FINAL LEGISLATION WAS FORWARDED FROM THE BUDGET COMMITTEE. ITEM

[18. O-031-25 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 101, SERIES 2024, AND ORDINANCE NO. 100, SERIES 2024, RELATING TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2024-2025 CAPITAL AND OPERATING BUDGETS, RESPECTIVELY, BY TRANSFERRING $175,000 FROM THE DISTRICT 7 NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUND TO THE DISTRICT 7 CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE FUND. 2/6/25 Budget Committee Recommended for Approval Action Required By: July 30, 2025 Sponsors: Paula McCraney (D-7) ]

18 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 101, SERIES 2024, AN ORDINANCE NUMBER 100, SERIES 2024 RELATING TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 2025. CAPITAL AND OPERATING BUDGETS RESPECTFULLY, BY TRANSFERRING $175,000 FROM DISTRICT SEVEN NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUND TO

[Legislation forwarded from EQUITY, COMMUNITY AFFAIRS, HOUSING, HEALTH AND EDUCATION COMMITTEE]

THE DISTRICT SEVEN CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE FUND, THE FOLLOWING LEGISLATION WAS FORWARDED FROM THE EQUITY, COMMUNITY AFFAIRS, HOUSING, HEALTH AND EDUCATION COMMITTEE.

[19. R-005-25 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO ACCEPT $30,000 OF FUNDING FROM THE KENTUCKY DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH THROUGH THE HEPATITIS GRANT PROGRAM TO BE ADMINISTERED BY LOUISVILLE METRO PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELLNESS. 2/5/25 Equity, Community Affairs, Housing, Health and Education Recommended for Approval Action Required By: July 30, 2025 Sponsors: Barbara Shanklin (D-2) ]

ITEM 19 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO ACCEPT $30,000 OF FUNDING FROM THE KENTUCKY DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH THROUGH THE HEPATITIS GRANT PROGRAM, TO BE ADMINISTERED BY

[20. R-006-25 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO ACCEPT $14,232 OF FUNDING FROM THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES THROUGH THE LANGUAGE ACCESS DEVICES FOR PREPAREDNESS EFFORTS GRANT PROGRAM TO BE ADMINISTERED BY LOUISVILLE METRO PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELLNESS. 2/5/25 Equity, Community Affairs, Housing, Health and Education Recommended for Approval Action Required By: July 30, 2025 Sponsors: Markus Winkler (D-17) ]

THE LOUISVILLE METRO PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELLNESS. ITEM 20 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO ACCEPT $14,232 OF FUNDING FROM THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES THROUGH THE LANGUAGE ACCESS ACCESS DEVICES FOR PREPAREDNESS EFFORTS GRANT PROGRAM TO BE ADMINISTERED BY THE LOUISVILLE METRO. PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELLNESS. THE FOLLOWING

[Legislation forwarded from GOVERNMENT OVERSIGHT/AUDIT AND APPOINTMENTS COMMITTEE]

LEGISLATION WAS FORWARDED FROM THE GOVERNMENT OVERSIGHT, AUDIT AND APPOINTMENTS COMMITTEE. ITEM

[21. RP020425JW REAPPOINTMENT OF JOHN CHRIS WANTLAND TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD. (TERM EXPIRES FEBRUARY 9, 2028) 2/4/25 Government Oversight/Audit and Appointments Committee Recommended for Approval Action Required By: July 30, 2025]

21 THE REAPPOINTMENT OF JOHN CHRIS WANTLAND TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD. TERM EXPIRES

[22. RP020425PW REAPPOINTMENT OF PAMELA WADDLE TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD. (TERM EXPIRES FEBRUARY 9, 2028) 2/4/25 Government Oversight/Audit and Appointments Committee Recommended for Approval Action Required By: July 30, 2025]

FEBRUARY THE 9TH, 2028. ITEM 22 REAPPOINTMENT OF PAMELA WADDLE WADDLE TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT

[23. AP020425CB APPOINTMENT OF CHRISTOPHER BURCKLE TO THE METROPOLITAN SEWER DISTRICT BOARD. (TERM EXPIRES JULY 31, 2026) 2/4/25 Government Oversight/Audit and Appointments Committee Recommended for Approval Action Required By: July 30, 2025]

BOARD. TERM EXPIRES FEBRUARY THE 9TH, 2028. ITEM 23 APPOINTMENT OF CHRISTOPHER BURCHELL TO THE

[24. AP020425RB APPOINTMENT OF DR. RICK BLACKWELL TO THE RIVERPORT AUTHORITY BOARD. (TERM EXPIRES JULY 31, 2027) 2/4/25 Government Oversight/Audit and Appointments Committee Recommended for Approval Action Required By: July 30, 2025]

METROPOLITAN SEWER DISTRICT BOARD. TERM EXPIRES JULY THE 31ST, 2026. ITEM 24 APPOINTMENT OF DOCTOR RICK BLACKWELL TO THE RIVER PORT AUTHORITY BOARD. TERM EXPIRES JULY THE 31ST, 2027.

[25. AP020425BH APPOINTMENT OF MAYOR BRENT HAGAN TO THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. (TERM EXPIRES NOVEMBER 29, 2026) 2/4/25 Government Oversight/Audit and Appointments Committee Recommended for Approval Action Required By: July 30, 2025]

ITEM 25 APPOINTMENT OF MAYOR BRANT HAGAN TO THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. TERM EXPIRES NOVEMBER

[26. AP020425CF APPOINTMENT OF CINDI FOWLER TO THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. (TERM EXPIRES NOVEMBER 29, 2026) 2/4/25 Government Oversight/Audit and Appointments Committee Recommended for Approval Action Required By: July 30, 2025]

THE 29TH, 2026. ITEM 26 APPOINTMENT OF CINDY FOWLER TO THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

TERM EXPIRES NOVEMBER THE 29TH, 2026. ITEM 27 APPOINTMENT OF LORI RAFFERTY TO THE TREE

[27. AP020425LR APPOINTMENT OF LORI RAFFERTY TO THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. (TERM EXPIRES NOVEMBER 29, 2026) 2/4/25 Government Oversight/Audit and Appointments Committee Recommended for Approval Action Required By: July 30, 2025]

[Legislation forwarded from LABOR AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE]

ADVISORY COMMITTEE. TERM EXPIRES NOVEMBER THE 29TH, 2026. THE FOLLOWING LEGISLATION WAS

[28. R-003-25 A RESOLUTION PURSUANT TO THE CAPITAL AND OPERATING BUDGET ORDINANCES APPROVING THE APPROPRIATION TO FUND THE FOLLOWING NONCOMPETITIVELY NEGOTIATED PROFESSIONAL SERVICE CONTRACT FOR LOUISVILLE METRO PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELLNESSS (“LMPHW”) CONCERNING SERVICE AS THE LMPHW MEDICAL DIRECTOR - (NORTON HEALTHCARE, INC. - $60,000.00). 02/04/25 Labor and Economic Development Committee Recommended for Approval Action Required By: July 30, 2025 Sponsors: Barbara Shanklin (D-2) ]

SUPPORTED FROM THE LABOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE. ITEM 28 A RESOLUTION PURSUANT TO THE CAPITAL CAPITAL OPERATING BUDGET ORDINANCES APPROVING THE APPROPRIATION TO FUND THE FOLLOWING NON-COMPETITIVELY NEGOTIATED PROFESSIONAL SERVICE CONTRACT FOR LOUISVILLE METRO PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELLNESS LNF CONCERNING SERVICE AS THE MEDICAL DIRECTOR, NORTON

[29. R-004-25 BUDGET ORDINANCES APPROVING THE APPROPRIATION TO FUND THE FOLLOWING NONCOMPETITIVELY NEGOTIATED PROFESSIONAL SERVICE CONTRACT FOR LOUISVILLE METRO PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELLNESS CONCERNING MENTAL HEALTH SCREENINGS FOR HEALTHY START PARTICIPANTS - (DR. ANA’NEICIA WILLIAMS - $61,000.00). 02/04/25 Labor and Economic Development Committee Recommended for Approval Action Required By: July 30, 2025 Sponsors: Barbara Shanklin (D-2) ]

HEALTHCARE, INC. $60,000. ITEM 29 BUDGET ORDINANCES APPROVING THE APPROPRIATION TO FUND THE FOLLOWING NON COMPETITIVELY NEGOTIATED PROFESSIONAL SERVICE CONTRACT FOR LOUISVILLE METRO PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELLNESS CONCERNING MENTAL HEALTH SCREENINGS FOR HEALTHY START PARTICIPANTS. DOCTOR ANNA. WILLIAMS $61,000. ITEM 30 A RESOLUTION RATIFYING AND

[30. R-010-25 AN RESOLUTION RATIFYING AND APPROVING A LETTER AGREEMENT TO BE EFFECTIVE FROM THE DATE OF APPROVAL BY THE LOUISVILLE/JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO COUNCIL FOR THE DURATION OF THE CURRENT COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT (“CBA”) BETWEEN LOUISVILLE/JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT (HEREINAFTER REFERRED TO AS “METRO GOVERNMENT”) AND THE CENTRAL MIDWEST REGIONAL COUNCIL OF CARPENTERS (HEREINAFTER REFERRED TO AS “UNION”) ON BEHALF OF ITS MEMBERS IN THE CODES AND REGULATIONS DEPARTMENT, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, PLANNING AND DESIGN, ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE CONTROL, AND SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT SERVICES, WHICH HAS AN EXPIRATION DATE OF JUNE 30, 2028. 02/04/25 Labor and Economic Development Committee Recommended for Approval Action Required By: July 30, 2025 Sponsors: Paula McCraney (D-7) ]

APPROVING A LETTER OF AGREEMENT TO BE EFFECTIVE FROM THE DATE OF APPROVAL BY THE LOUISVILLE JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO COUNCIL FOR THE DURATION OF THE CURRENT COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT.

CBA BETWEEN LOUISVILLE JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT, HEREIN REFERRED TO AS METRO GOVERNMENT AND THE CENTRAL MIDWEST REGIONAL COUNCIL OF CARPENTERS, HERE IN AFTER REFERRED TO AS UNION ON BEHALF OF ITS MEMBERS IN THE CODES AND REGULATIONS DEPARTMENT. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, PLANNING AND DESIGN. ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE CONTROL AND SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT SERVICES, WHICH HAS AN EXPIRATION DATE OF JUNE THE 30TH, 2028. READ IN FULL MOTION A SECOND FOR APPROVAL. THE CONSENT CALENDAR PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED, THIS REQUIRES A ROLL CALL VOTE. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE OPEN THE VOTING. FOR ME, PLEASE. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. PERISH, RIGHT? YES. WITHOUT OBJECTION. THE VOTING IS CLOSING. VOTING IS CLOSED. MR. PRESIDENT, YOU HAVE. YOU'VE GOT TO CHANGE IT BACK FOR ME. ONE SECOND. YOU HAVE 25 YES VOTES.

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CONSENT COUNTER PASSES. THE NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS IS OLD BUSINESS. MADAM CLERK, A READING OF ITEM NUMBER 31. IN ORDER TO AN ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING $18,640 FROM NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER $13,981.50 FROM DISTRICT 16 AND $4,660.50 FROM DISTRICT 17 THROUGH THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT BUDGET TO JEFFERSON COUNTY PUBLIC EDUCATION FOUNDATION, INC. FOR THE INSTALLATION OF A RAMP AT NORTON COMMONS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL'S PLAYGROUND, RIGHT IN FULL. MADAM A MOTION. SECOND MOTION. THE ORDINANCE IS BEFORE US. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILWOMAN PARKER, I THINK THIS CAME OUT OF YOUR COMMITTEE.

YES. THANK YOU. I THINK THIS IS AN APPROPRIATION FOR A PLAYGROUND, AND I WILL LET COUNCIL MEMBER REED AND OR WINKLER SPEAK TO IT AS IT IS THEIRS. GENTLEMEN, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. THANK. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THIS IS DISTRICT 16, IN COLLABORATION WITH DISTRICT

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17, FUNDING A ADA COMPLIANT RAMP FOR NORTON COMMONS ELEMENTARY. FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW, THE JEFFERSON COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS DOES NOT FUND THESE RAMPS. THEY DON'T MAKE PLAYGROUNDS ADA COMPLIANT. AND I'M ON THE COMMISSION FOR PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES. I HAVE BEEN FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. JAKE IS GOING TO COME IN AND SPEAK TO US IN OUR NEXT MEETING. WE'RE GOING TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS OF THEM, AND TO THEIR CREDIT, THEY'VE BEEN VERY COOPERATIVE. AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO GET SOME THINGS OUT IN THE OPEN. SO I ASK THAT YOU APPROVE THIS. ALL KIDS DESERVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO PLAYGROUNDS. AND THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO PLAY AND ENJOY THE AMENITIES LIKE ALL OF THE OTHER KIDS. I WILL ALSO SAY THAT NOT ONLY ARE WE FUNDING THIS, BUT MY OFFICE FUNDED THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT ITSELF BACK IN 2017, WHICH I FIND INCREDIBLE. SINCE JCPS HAS A BUDGET OF $1.8 BILLION AND THEY DON'T FUND PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT EITHER. SO I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, COUNCILOR WINKLER. ANYTHING TO ADD? NO, I THINK IT'S ONLY ON OLD BUSINESS BECAUSE WE'VE GOT AN EXTENSION. THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.

THIS REQUIRES A ROLL CALL. VOTE, MADAM. COUNCILOR JOSEPH, I THOUGHT I PUSHED THE QUEUE BUTTON. IF I DIDN'T, I APOLOGIZE. I'M JUST LETTING THE RECORD REFLECT THAT I AM ABSTAINING OUT OF ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION DUE TO JAKE BEING MY EMPLOYER, AND WE ARE WAITING ON LEGAL COUNSEL TO KNO GOING FORWARD HOW I SHOULD VOTE WHEN IT COMES TO JAKE MATTERS.

HEARING NO OTHER DISCUSSION. THIS REQUIRES A ROLL CALL. VOTE. MADAM CLERK, OPEN THE ROLL CALL.

COUNCIL MEMBER PERISH, RIGHT? YES. I'M SORRY. I WAS GOING TO WAIT FOR YOU TO FOLLOW ME FOR THE SAME REASONS THAT COUNCILMAN. JJ JUST STATED. I WILL BE ABSTAINING BECAUSE I, JAKE, IS AN EMPLOYEE OF MINE. THANK YOU. MISTER PRESIDENT. YOU HAVE 23 YES VOTES AND TWO ABSTENTIONS. THE ORDINANCE IS ADOPTED. FOLKS, LET'S GET SOMETHING STRAIGHT HERE. I'M NOT MISSING YOU GUYS. THE SYSTEM HERE IS TERRIBLE. IT'S NOT WORKING. PLAIN AND SPLE.'D LIKE TO U A BETTER TE TO DERIBET, B I'M GOING TO BE PO T O S T E CALLED ON, GIVE ME A HOLLER. AY. OLD SCHOOL. THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR IS THE ITEM NUMBER 32.

[32. O-029-25 AN ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING $1,650 $2,900 FROM NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER: $1,650 FROM DISTRICT 2; $750 FROM DISTRICT 15; AND $500 FROM DISTRICT 18; THROUGH THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET, TO MENTAL HEALTH LOU & YOU, INC. FOR THEIR MIND BODY WELLNESS WITH MENTAL HEALTH LOU PROGRAM (AS AMENDED). 2/5/25 Appropriations Committee Amended; Recommended for Approval Action Required By: July 30, 2025 Sponsors: Barbara Shanklin (D-2), Jennifer Chappell (D-15), Marilyn Parker (R-18)]

MADAM CLERK, CAN YOU GIVE US A READING? AND IT'S APPROPRIATING $2,900 FROM NEIGHBORHOOD

[31. O-019-25 AN ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING $18,642 FROM NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER: $13,981.50 FROM DISTRICT 16 AND $4,660.50 FROM DISTRICT 17; THROUGH THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET, TO THE JEFFERSON COUNTY PUBLIC EDUCATION FOUNDATION, INC. FOR THE INSTALLATION OF A RAMP AT NORTON COMMONS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL’S PLAYGROUND. 2/5/25 Appropriations Committee Recommended for Approval Action Required By: July 30, 2025 Sponsors: Scott Reed (R-16), Markus Winkler (D-17)]

DEVELOPMENT FUNDS IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER $1,640 FROM DISTRICT TWO, $750 FROM DISTRICT 15, AND $500 FROM DISTRICT 18 THROUGH THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET TO MENTAL H AND YOU, INC. FOR THEIR MIND, BODY, WELLNESS AND MENTAL HEALTH LIEU PROGRAM, AS AMENDED. READ IN FULL MOTION ITEMS BROUGHT BEFORE US. I BELIEVE THIS CAME OUT OF COUNCILMAN PARKER'S COMMITTEE.

YES. THANK YOU. I THINK THIS CAME OUT THE COMMITTEE BECAUSE IT WAS AMENDED, BECAUSE THERE WAS MORE DOLLARS THAT WERE ADDED TO IT. AND IF THE SPONSORS WANT TO SPEAK TO IT, THEY CAN. THANK YOU. MISS ME? COUNCILOR SHANKLIN, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. I JUST WANT TO HAVE IT ON RECORD THAT IT IS NOT MY AMENDMENTS. THIS ORDINANCE WAS PUT IN PLACE BY CASSIE. CASSIE ARMSTRONG BEFORE SHE LEFT. AND THEY'VE ASKED US TO PUT IT THROUGH AGAIN. THEY'VE DONE THIS PROGRAM 2023 AND LAST YEAR, AND IT WILL BE DONE ON MARCH THE 5TH. AND IT'S AT THE LIBRARIES ARE IN THE ASTON 1600 FROM EACH LIBRARY IN THE LIBRARIES ARE ONE, TWO, THREE, FIVE, EIGHT, 15, 18 AND 25. THOSE ARE THE LIBRARIES THAT RAN THIS PROGRAM FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS, AND THEY'RE ASKING THEM TO RUN IT AGAIN THIS YEAR. AND EACH ONE OF THEM, THEY'RE ASKING FOR $1,600 FOR THE PROGRAM. SO AGAIN, IT'S NOT MY PROGRAM. IT'S IT CAME FROM DISTRICT EIGHT, I BELIEVE, OR EITHER ONE OF THE EIGHT. SO WHEN YOU PUSH IT OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN CHAPPELL, YOU'RE ALSO A SPONSOR. YOU CAN SPEAK TO THIS. SURE. I DO. JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, THERE ARE NO LIBRARIES IN DISTRICT 15. BUT I BELIEVE THAT THIS PERSON REACHED OUT TO EVERY OFFICE AND PROVIDED SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THIS PROGRAM. AND WHEN I ASKED FOR MORE INFORMATION, THEY GAVE ME

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THAT. PLUS, I THINK IT'S A VERY CREDIBLE ORGANIZATION THAT'S BRINGING WONDERFUL MENTAL HEALTH RESOURCES TO OUR COMMUNITIES AND UTILIZING OUR PUBLIC SPACES TO DO SO. SO I HAVE NO AFFILIATION WITH THE ORGANIZATION, BUT I SUPPORT THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING. SO IF YOU FEEL INCLINED TO PARTICIPATE, PLEASE DO. AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE A LIBRARY IN DISTRICT 15, BUT OUR CONSTITUENTS DON'T JUST STAY IN THEIR DISTRICT. SO KEEP THAT IN MIND IF YOU WANT TO GIVE MONEY.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCILMAN WEBER? I WOULD OFFER TO SHARE THE SHELBY HIGHLANDS LIBRARY WITH ANY OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS WHO WOULD WHO WOULD VENTURE ACROSS THE LINE. AND I ALSO WOULD BE VERY MUCH IN SUPPORT OF THIS. THANK YOU. AND I WOULD PLEDGE $1,000.

COUNCILMAN OWEN, $500 FROM DISTRICT NINE, PLEASE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I WOULD LIKE $500 FROM DISTRICT THREE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YES. I'D LIKE TO PLEDGE $500 FROM MY OFFICE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YES, 1600 FROM OUR LIBRARY. MY FAMILY. I'M SORRY.

PARKLAND LIBRARY. FROM. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. 500 TO THE SHINY LIBRARY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? 500 TO THE PORTLAND LIBRARY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, MR. PRESIDENT? WHAT'S THE BALANCE? IS THERE A BALANCE FOR THIS? I'M SORRY, I'M IN THE AIRPORT. I MISSED THAT IF THAT WAS SAID, MADAM CLERK. SO THE REQUEST WAS FOR $13,200, AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT $8,500. MR. PRESIDENT, I DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO LOOK AT IT RIGHT NOW, BUT COULD WE ASK THE COUNTY ATTORNEY? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE INDIVIDUAL LIBRARIES THAT WERE ASKED STATED, ARE THEY MENTIONED IN THE PACKET? YES. THEY ARE THE PORTLAND. AND THOSE SPECIFIC ONES. DISTRICT NUMBERS. I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THE PACKET TO DOUBLE CHECK AND SEE THAT THEY'RE MENTIONED SPECIFICALLY. I DON'T KNOW THAT DOES. IS THERE A REASON WHY THEY NEED TO BE MENTIONED SPECIFICALLY? SO THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. WOULD WE NEED TO AMEND THE PACKET AS WELL IF THEY'RE NOT MENTIONED? I DON'T BELIEVE SO. THE PACKET STATES TO ALL TO LIBRARIES IN JEFFERSON COUNTY. THANK YOU. WHICH WOULD COVER ALL OF THEM. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I'LL PUT $1,000 FOR THE WESTERN LIBRARY DISTRICT FOR. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. CAN I AMEND AND MAKE IT 1500 BECAUSE WE HAVE THE LIBRARY IN SHIVELY. I'VE NOTICED. YOU GOT THAT? YES, MA'AM OR YES, SIR. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER I DON'T MEAN TO MUDDY THE WATERS HERE, BUT I THINK TO THE CLERK'S QUESTION. RIGHT. COUNCILWOMAN SHANKLIN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS. IS THIS A PROGRAM THAT REQUIRES $1,600 TO PUT ON? AND SO IF YOU GIVE 500 TO SHAWNEE, LIKE, YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT BECAUSE IT COSTS $1,600. RIGHT. AND DOES ANYBODY HAVE THAT INFORMATION? MAYBE. THEY'RE JUST SAID WE'RE THEY ASKING FOR 1600 FOR EACH LIBRARY IN THE DISTRICTS. AND I HAVE THE DISTRICTS THAT THEY HAD ON HERE, ONE, TWO, THREE, FIVE, EIGHT, 15 SHE SAID SHE DOESN'T HAVE A LIBRARY 18 AND 25. THAT'S THE INFORMATION THEY GAVE US.

THANK YOU. OKAY. BEING NEXT YEAR, ARE YOU GOING TO DO IT? WHAT'S OUR TOTAL AT RIGHT NOW, MADAM CLERK? OUR TOTALS AT 10,500. THE BALANCE LEFT IS 2700 2700. COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL. TO ADDRESS POSSIBLY COUNCILMAN WINKLER'S QUESTION, THIS IS AN EMAIL FROM AMANDA, WHO WORKS WITH MY MENTAL HEALTH. LOU. IN 2024, WE HOSTED 40 WORKSHOPS AT TEN LIBRARY BRANCHES. AND THIS YEAR WE'RE EXPANDING TO INCLUDE YMCA, SAFE PLACE AND NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSE. WE ESTIMATE

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THAT A $1,650 CONTRIBUTION FROM EACH DISTRICT, WHERE WORKSHOPS ARE HELD WOULD FULLY FUND THE PROGRAM, ENSURING WE CAN CONTINUE SERVING OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. AND THERE'S MORE CORRESPONDENCE. IF THERE'S QUESTIONS THAT I MIGHT BE ABLE TO. ADDRESS, SUCH AS MOST LIBRARY BRANCHES HAVE SEEN BETWEEN 8 AND 15 PARTICIPANTS PER WORKSHOP IN THE PAST, WITH MANY REACHING AS HIGH AS 20. SO THERE'S INFORMATION. WELL, MOST LOCATIONS HAVE HAVE HAD CONSISTENT ATTENDANCE. WE HAVE MADE MODIFICATIONS TO OUR LOCATIONS TO IMPROVE ATTENDANCE. FOR EXAMPLE, THE WESTERN BRANCH HAS HISTORICALLY STRUGGLED TO DRAW PARTICIPANTS IN RESPONSE. WE'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH NATALIE WOODS, WHO MANAGES THE WESTERN BRANCH AND NOW ALSO OVERSEES SCHEDULING FOR THE PARKLAND BRANCH. WE PLAN TO SHIFT OUR WESTERN WORKSHOPS TO PARKLAND THIS YEAR AS IT IS NEWER, SERVES THE SAME COMMUNITY AND WE BELIEVE IT WILL GENERATE MORE INTEREST. LIKE I SAID, I DON'T HAVE ANSWERS TO EVERY SINGLE PERSON'S DISTRICT, BUT EARLIER I DID SAY I ASKED QUESTIONS WHEN SHE SENT AN EMAIL AND THAT'S THE RESPONSE I RECEIVED. AND SO I THINK TO ADDRESS THE DISTRICT 15, IF THEY HAVE EXPANDED TO SAFE PLACES, I DO HAVE A SAFE PLACE IN DISTRICT 15, IN THE HAZELWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE HOW THAT CORRELATES WITH THE LIST THAT DOCTOR SHANKLIN HAS PROVIDED. COUNCILWOMAN SHANKLIN HAS PROVIDED TO COLLEAGUES. DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT TO CONTRIBUTE? WE'RE GOING TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM. DISTRICT 26 WILL PICK UP THE OTHER 2700. NOW WE DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE OF WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING. OKAY. SO IT WORK OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. WE'VE GOT A FLOOR AMENDMENT BEFORE US NOW COVERING THE FULL ASK MOTION. AND A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. I IN OPPOSITION. IN OPPOSITION. IT IS AMENDED. NOW, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDED ORDINANCE HEARING? NONE. THIS REQUIRES A ROLL CALL. VOTE. MADAM CLERK, OPEN THE VOTING. COUNCIL MEMBER. PARIS. YES, YES. THANK YOU. MR. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MR. PRESIDENT, YOU HAVE 25 YES VOTES. THE ORDINANCE IS ADOPTED.

MADAM CLERK, A READING OF ITEM NUMBER 33. AND IT'S APPROPRIATING $10,500 FROM

[33. O-032-25 AN ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING $10,000 $10,500 FROM NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER: $10,000 FROM DISTRICT 13; AND $500 FROM DISTRICT 12; TO LOUISVILLE METRO PARKS FOR COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ANNUAL FOREST FEST BLUEGRASS FESTIVAL (AS AMENDED). 2/5/25 Appropriations Committee Amended; Recommended for Approval Action Required By: July 30, 2025 Sponsors: Dan Seum, Jr. (R-13), Jonathan “JJ” Joseph (R-12)]

NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER $10,000 FROM DISTRICT 13 AND $500 FROM DISTRICT 12 TO THE LOUISVILLE METRO PARKS FOR COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ANNUAL FOREST FEST BLUEGRASS FESTIVAL, AS AMENDED. READ IN FULL. SECOND, BROUGHT BEFORE US. THIS CAME OUT OF COUNCILMAN PARKER'S. YES, THIS WAS AN ORDINANCE REQUESTING DOLLARS FOR THE ANNUAL FOREST FEST. DISTRICT 13 AND 12, WITH THE SPONSORS OF ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO IT. COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL WAS FIRST IN THE QUEUE. 750 FROM DISTRICT 15. COUNCILMAN SIGN. DO YOU CARE TO SPEAK TO THIS COUNCILMAN JOSEPH? DO YOU CARE TO SPEAK TO THIS? I WANTED TO SAY A FEW THINGS. FIRST. THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL, FOR THE DONATION OF FOREST FEST. IS GROWING. IT'S ALMOST 7000 ACRES OF THE LARGEST MUNICIPALLY OWNED FOREST IN AMERICA. WE'RE DOING A LOT TO REVITALIZE THE PARK. THE MAYOR'S ON BOARD. THE STATE'S ON BOARD. IT GIVES US A CHANCE TO HIGHLIGHT THE FOREST. WE HAVE. PEOPLE COME FROM ALL PARTS OF JEFFERSON COUNTY AND SOUTHERN INDIANA TO THIS BLUEGRASS FESTIVAL. AND I'M ASKING YOU TO HELP ME FINISH THIS OUT FOR A $25,000 ASK. I THINK WE'RE AT 12.5 NOW, SO IF WE CAN GET ANY HELP, I'D APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN JOSEPH. YEAH. ALL I'LL SAY IS THAT I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT COUNCILMAN SAM DOES WITH THE FOREST. AND IF IT MATTERS TO HIM, IT CERTAINLY MATTERS TO ME.

OKAY. YES. $1,000 FROM DISTRICT 19, PLEASE. COUNCILMAN 3000 FROM 21. COUNCILMAN BRADFORD. I'M GOING TO GO 2000. I LOVE THIS FOREST. IT IS 22. 2022. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. CAN I DO A THOUSAND FROM DISTRICT THREE, PLEASE? YES, MA'AM. COUNCILMAN READ 750 FROM DISTRICT 16.

COUNCILMAN BASHAW. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. MISS SONIA, WHAT'S OUR NUMBER NOW? THE BALANCE. THE REQUEST IS FOR 25,000. WE HAVE 17,000. THE BALANCE IS EIGHT. THAT'S TWO

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1000 FROM 25, PLEASE. 1000. OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN MULVEY WILL REACH AS ALLISON FROM 24.

THOUSAND FROM DISTRICT ONE. COUNCILMAN OWEN 500 FROM NINE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? 500 FROM DISTRICT TWO. DISTRICT TWO. 500. SURE THAT, MADAM CLERK. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN WINKLER. 500 FROM 17. WERE WE AT MADAM? THE BALANCE LEFT IS 3500. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? 2000 FROM 14, 500 FROM FOUR. OKAY. AND WE ARE AT $1,000. BALANCE. WE ARE SHORT A THOUSAND. SHORT 1000.

YES. I'M SORRY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE COUNCILWOMAN MCCRANIE? MR. I THINK THAT GETS US THERE, CORRECT? YES, SIR. SO WE'VE GOT A FLOOR AMENDMENT FOR US NOW. CAN I GET A MOTION A SECOND PROPERLY FOR ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSITION? IN OPPOSITION. WE NOW HAVE THE AMENDED ORDINANCE BEFORE US. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDED ORDINANCE HEARING? NONE. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRES A ROLL CALL. VOTE. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE OPEN THE ROLL. COUNCIL MEMBER. PARRISH. RIGHT. YES.

YES. MR. PRESIDENT, YOU HAVE 25 YES VOTES. THE ORDINANCE IS ADOPTED. MADAM CLERK, A READING

[34. O-039-25 AN ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING $8,000 $12,250 FROM NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER: $8,000 FROM DISTRICT 21; $1,500 FROM DISTRICT 10; $1,250 FROM DISTRICT 24; $1,000 FROM DISTRICT 8; AND $500 FROM DISTRICT 15; THROUGH THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET, TO PRESTON AREA BUSINESS ALLIANCE, INC. FOR OPERATING FUNDS FOR SALARIES FOR THEIR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND PART-TIME MARKETING ASSISTANT (AS AMENDED). 2/5/25 Appropriations Committee Amended; Recommended for Approval Action Required By: July 30, 2025 Sponsors: Betsy Ruhe (D-21), Josie Raymond (D-10), Ginny Mulvey-Woolridge (R-24), Ben Reno-Weber (D-8), Jennifer Chappell (D-15)]

OF ITEM NUMBER 34. AN APPROPRIATING $12,250 FOR NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER. $8,000 FROM DISTRICT 21. $500 FROM DISTRICT TEN, $1,200 FROM DISTRICT 24. $1,000 FROM DISTRICT EIGHT. $500 FROM DISTRICT 15 THROUGH THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET TO PRESTON AREA BUSINESS ALLIANCE, INC. FOR OPERATING FUNDS FOR SALARIES FOR THEIR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND PART TIME MARKETING ASSISTANT, AS AMENDED. READ IN FULL MOTION AND A SECOND ITEM IS BEFORE US COUNCIL. PARKER, THIS CAME OUT OF YOUR COMMITTEE? YES.

THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THIS IS ON OLD BUSINESS. THEY'RE PROBABLY LOOKING FOR MORE DOLLARS. I WOULD JUST SOME OF US WOULD GIVE A VERY LIGHT CAUTION ABOUT FUNDING OPERATING EXPENSES JUST BECAUSE. JUST KNOW THAT THEY MAY BE COMING BACK EVERY YEAR LOOKING FOR US TO DO IT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S UP TO US HOW WE SPEND OUR FUNDS, SO I WILL GIVE THIS OVER TO COUNCILWOMAN RUBY, AND I WILL LET HER TALK ABOUT IT WITH YOU GUYS. COUNCILWOMAN MURRAY, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT WHEN WE HIRED A DIRECTOR OF THIS MOLESTINA, WE MADE A VERY GOOD INVESTMENT. SHE HAS GROWN THE SIZE OF THIS ORGANIZATION WAS ORIGINALLY STARTED DURING COUNCILWOMAN GEORGE'S TERM. AND IT EXTENDS THE PRESTON AREA, EXTENDS FROM PRESTON ALL THE WAY DOWNTOWN AND THEN ALL THE WAY OUT PAST THE OUTER LOOP. SO IT'S A VERY LONG CORRIDOR. AND SHE HAS WORKED TO SECURE GRANTS, AND SHE'S IN COOPERATIVE AGREEMENTS WITH UNIVERSITIES AND HAD STUDENTS IN THERE WORKING INTERNSHIPS TO HELP HER GROW THIS ORGANIZATION. AND SHE HOLDS REGULAR WORKSHOPS FOR PEOPLE WANTING TO START A BUSINESS AND WRITE A BUSINESS PROGRAM. AND WHAT I'VE SEEN OF HER WORK. FOR STARTERS, WHEN SHE WAS HIRED, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE PART TIME. BELIEVE ME, SHE WORKS WAY MORE THAN PART TIME AT THIS BECAUSE SHE HAS SUCH A PASSION FOR IT, AND I DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO KEEP HER IN THERE BECAUSE SHE'S MAKING A BIG DIFFERENCE FOR ALL THE FOR ALL THE BUSINESSES ALONG THAT CORRIDOR. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON, WHICH I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT, IS WE'VE GOT A MARKETING CLASS AT U OF L THAT IS STUDYING THE PRESTON CORRIDOR AND WILL EVENTUALLY DEVELOP A MARKETING PLAN FOR IT. SO NOT ONLY WE HAVE NULU AND SOBRO, WE MIGHT HAVE LULU. SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. AND I REALLY HOPE TO HAVE YOUR SUPPORT AS WE BRING HER ACROSS THE FINISH LINE TO GET THE FUNDS THAT SHE NEEDS TO KEEP THIS GOING. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE IN THE QUEUE. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRES A ROLL CALL. VOTE. MADAM CLERK, OPEN THE ROLL. NOBODY CAME FOR DISCUSSION. ALRIGHTY. COUNCIL MEMBER PERISH. RIGHT. WHAT? NO

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ONE. OH, SORRY. MR. PRESIDENT, DO YOU HAVE A SECOND? YES. I'M SORRY. THANK YOU MA'AM. GO AHEAD. MADAM, YOU HAVE 25 YES VOTES. THE ORDINANCE IS ADOPTED. NEXT IS GOING TO BE A READING OF ITEM NUMBER 35. A RESOLUTION PURSUANT TO THE CAPITAL OPERATING BUDGET ORDINANCE IS

[35. R-012-25 A RESOLUTION PURSUANT TO THE CAPITAL AND OPERATING BUDGET ORDINANCES APPROVING THE APPROPRIATION TO FUND THE FOLLOWING NONCOMPETITIVELY NEGOTIATED SOLE SOURCE CONTRACT FOR LOUISVILLE METRO POLICE DEPARTMENT (“LMPD”) CONCERNING ANALYSIS OF POLICE INTERACTIONS TO IMPROVE EFFECTIVENESS AND EQUITY – (SIGMA SQUARED, INC. – $350,000.00). 02/04/25 Labor and Economic Development Committee Recommended for Approval Action Required By: July 30, 2025 Sponsors: Dan Seum, Jr. (R-13) ]

APPROVING THE APPROPRIATION TO FUND THE FOLLOWING NONCOMPETITIVE, NEGOTIATED SOLE SOURCE CONTRACT FOR LOUISVILLE METRO POLICE DEPARTMENT, LMPD CONCERNING ANALYSIS OF POLICE INTERACTIONS TO IMPROVE EFFECTIVENESS AND EQUITY. SIGMA SQUARED, INC. $350,000 IN FULL SECOND. ITEM IS PROPERLY BEFORE US. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS? COUNCILMAN RENO WEBER? THIS CAME OUT OF YOUR COMMITTEE. DID IT. AND IT IS ON OLD BUSINESS BECAUSE THE SPONSOR WAS NOT ABLE TO BE THERE. BUT HE IS HERE TONIGHT. SO, COUNCILMAN SIMON, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THIS? THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. I'LL JUST READ A FEW WORDS HERE. THE RESOLUTION APPROVES A NON COMPETE CONTRACT IN THE AMOUNT OF $350,000 FOR LMPD TO CONTRACT WITH SIGMA SQUARED TO ANALYZE POLICE INTERACTIONS TO IMPROVE EFFECTIVENESS AND EQUITY. THE CONTRACT RUNS FROM JANUARY 1ST, 2025 TO DECEMBER 31ST, 2025. THE REASON THIS IS A SOLE SOURCE CONTRACT IS BECAUSE IT IS THE ONLY COMPANY THAT PROVIDES THIS TYPE OF SOFTWARE. SIGMA SQUARE PROVIDES SOFTWARE TO ANALYZE POLICE STOPS, PEDESTRIAN STOPS, USE OF FORCE DATA, AND OTHER POLICE INTERACTIONS TO IDENTIFY POTENTIAL BIAS, DISCRIMINATION AND ENHANCE OFFICER TRAINING, SUPERVISION, AND THE OVERALL EFFECTIVENESS OF POLICE SERVICES. TRANSPARENT DATA ANALYSIS NOT ONLY HELPS BUILD TRUST WITH THE COMMUNITY, IT ALSO STRENGTHENS ACCOUNTABILITY WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT. THIS DEMONSTRATING A COMMITMENT TO EQUITABLE POLICING. LMPD WELCOMES THIS. THEY WANT THE TRANSPARENCY. THEY WANT THE PUBLIC TO SEE THE TRANSPARENCY. IT HELPS WITH OUR OUR LMPD. AND I'M ASKING YOU TO SUPPORT THIS. THANK YOU. YES, THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MY NEIGHBOR NEXT TO ME, DOCTOR MCCRANEY, FOR PULLING THIS OFF THE CONSENT CALENDAR FOR US TO SPEAK TO THIS. I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL FOR URGING MEMBERS OF OUR CAUCUS TO TAKE A LOOK DEEPER, LOOK INTO THE CONTRACT PROVISIONS. I URGE EVERY MEMBER HERE TO OPEN UP IN THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS THE ACTUAL CONTRACT IF AND THAT'S THE 57 PAGE DOCUMENT AFTER THE CONTRACTUAL LANGUAGE BOILERPLATE, THERE IS A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION FOR THIS ITEM. I ASSUME WHEN THEY SOLD IT TO LMPD, IT STARTS WITH A SLIDE THAT STATES POLICE DEPARTMENTS ACROSS THE WORLD HAVE BEEN INUNDATED WITH NONSENSE STATISTICS AND FORCED TO CORRECT PROBLEMS THAT ARE NOT REAL PROBLEMS. ON PAGE 17, SORRY, IT GOES ON IN PAGE 16. SORRY. LETTING THIS LOAD DISCUSSING THE DISPARITY IN STOPS HERE IN LOUISVILLE BY EXAMPLE BY RACE STATING FOR LOUISVILLE, BLACK CIVILIANS ARE 23% OF THE POPULATION BUT 43% OF THE STOPS. THE NEXT SLIDE GOING ON TO STATE THERE IS MUCH MORE TO THE STORY.

DISPARITY IN STOPS DOES NOT EQUAL BIAS IN STOPS. ON PAGE 18, THE SAME NONSENSE STATISTICS ARE APPLIED TO USE OF FORCE AND IOS. YET WE HAVE PROVEN IN OUR ACADEMIC RESEARCH DISPARITY IN IOS DOES NOT EQUAL BIAS IN IOS. ON PAGE 22, THERE IS A DISCUSSION ABOUT DISPARITIES IN RACIAL RACIAL DISPARITIES IN MORTGAGE LENDING, CLAIMING THAT THE STATISTICS DON'T TELL THE WHOLE STORY ON WHETHER OR NOT FAMILY BLACK FAMILIES ARE RECEIVING EQUAL TREATMENT FROM MORTGAGE LENDERS COMPARED TO WHITE FAMILIES. THIS THIS PRESENTATION IS NOT ABOUT ROOTING OUT DISCRIMINATION. THIS PRESENTATION EXPLICITLY IS A SELL ON PROVING THAT THERE IS NOT DISCRIMINATION IN OUR POLICING. IT IS HIGHLY PREJUDICIAL THAT THIS IS A SOLE SOURCE CONTRACT FOR $350,000 FROM OUR CITY, AND AGAIN WITH A PREDETERMINED SOLD OUTCOME HERE

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IN THESE SLIDES SLIDES. I CANNOT IN GOOD CONSCIENCE VOTE FOR THIS. I URGE THE MEMBERS PLEASE READ THROUGH THESE SLIDES. MAKE A DETERMINATION FOR YOURSELF, BUT I URGE YOU TO ASK SOME VERY SERIOUS QUESTIONS HERE TONIGHT ON WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS MATCHING THE DESCRIPTION OF WHAT HAS BEEN SOLD TO THE CITY IN TERMS OF ROOTING OUT BIAS IN OUR POLICING VERSUS TRYING TO PROVE PRE PREJUDICIALLY PREMATURELY THAT THERE IS NOT BIAS. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN GENIE, YOU'RE NEXT IN THE QUEUE. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUE'S COMMENTS. I'VE READ MOST I DON'T WANNA SAY I'VE READ EVERY WORD, BUT I'VE READ MOST OF THIS. I'VE READ THE ENTIRE CONSENT DECREE, EVERY WORD OF IT. AND ACTUALLY, FOR THOSE I'VE GIVEN THIS TYPE OF SPEECH BEFORE. SO FOR THE NEWER MEMBERS, FOR THE OLDER MEMBERS, I APOLOGIZE FOR THE NEWER MEMBERS, MY BACKGROUND IN EDUCATION AND THE NERD I AM. I STILL READ ECONOMICS TEXTBOOKS VERY REGULARLY. I WAS AN ECON MAJOR IN COLLEGE, LOVED THE SCIENCE OF IT, AND WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT IS THE NUMERICAL AND SCIENTIFIC DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DISPARITIES AND DISCRIMINATION. THEY I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN THEIR PRESENTATION THAT INDICATES THAT THEY HAVE A PRECONCEIVED NOTION. THEY ARE POINTING OUT THE VERY REAL DIFFERENCE OF THESE TWO TERMS. AND I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE RELATED TO LMPD. LMPD DISPROPORTIONATELY ARRESTS MEN.

OUR CORRECTIONS DEPARTMENT IS DISPROPORTIONATELY LOADED WITH MEN. RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU THINK LMPD HATES MEN. EXACTLY. IT'S BECAUSE MEN COMMIT MORE CRIMES IN THIS CITY. IT IS NOT THE SAME TO SAY THAT THEY'RE BEING DISCRIMINATORY. NOW, THERE HAVE BEEN EVIDENCE, RIGHT, OF CASES IN THE PAST WHERE THERE HAVE BEEN ISSUES OF DISCRIMINATION. THOSE NEED TO BE NUMERICALLY AND SPECIFICALLY DEALT WITH. RIGHT? I'M NOT SAYING LMPD HASN'T MADE MISTAKES. EVERY DEPARTMENT IN THIS CITY HAS MADE A MISTAKE IN ONE WAY OR THE OTHER WITH SOME GROUP OR ANOTHER. RIGHT? BUT DEFINING THAT AND MAKE SURE WE'RE GOING AFTER THOSE SPECIFIC CASES BASED OFF OF DATA THAT SHOWS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DISCRIMINATION AND DISPARITY IS IMPORTANT. I'LL GIVE YOU ANOTHER EXAMPLE THAT SPEAKS DIRECTLY TO MY BACKGROUND. AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, I GREW UP IN THE NORTHEAST. RUDY GIULIANI, WHEN HE WAS MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY, ACTUALLY PRE THAT WHEN HE WAS ATTORNEY GENERAL OF NEW YORK CITY, WENT AFTER ORGANIZED CRIME. HE DISPROPORTIONATELY ARRESTED ITALIAN AMERICANS WHO THINKS THAT HE HATED ITALIAN AMERICANS. OR WAS IT DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME IN NEW YORK CITY, THE DISPROPORTIONATE AMOUNT OF ORGANIZED CRIME WAS RUN BY ITALIAN AMERICANS? THAT WAS JUST THE SITUATION, RIGHT? COULD THAT CITY HAVE DONE SOME DISCRIMINATORY THINGS? MAYBE. BUT YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO TELL THE NUMERICAL DIFFERENCE. AND THAT IS WHAT THE SOFTWARE AND THESE TECHNOLOGY SYSTEMS DO. AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO GET THAT RIGHT, BECAUSE THERE ARE GOING TO BE DIFFERENCES, EVEN IN GEOGRAPHY, EVEN BY PATROL DIVISION IN THIS CITY, ABOUT WHO IS BEING ARRESTED AND WHO'S DOING WHAT TYPES OF CRIMES AND THINGS LIKE THIS. AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT LMPD GET IT RIGHT, IDENTIFY AND CORRECT ANYONE THAT'S OR THAT IS ENGAGING IN DISCRIMINATION 100% THAT WE NEED THE DATA FOR IT. AND I THINK CHIEF HUMPHREY HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR THAT HE WANTS THAT DATA. RIGHT. AND AT THE SAME TIME, MAKING SURE WE'RE NOT CONFUSING THE TWO TERMS. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SPEAKING TO. SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO PLEASE VOTE FOR THIS. SO OUR OUR POLICE OFFICERS CAN PROPERLY DIFFERENTIATE AND GO AFTER THE DISCRIMINATION, BUT NOT CONFUSE IT FOR THE INSTANCES WHERE IT'S JUST DISPARITY. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. COUNCILMAN, YOU'RE NEXT IN THE QUEUE. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, MADAM. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. FIRST OF ALL, I'M TRYING TO FIND THAT PRESENTATION SO THAT I MAY LOOK AT IT, BUT ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAD COMING IN HERE IS HOW THIS DATA IS COLLECTED. IS THIS DONE THROUGH BODY CAM FOOTAGE PERIOD. IS THIS DONE THROUGH REPORTS THAT ARE FILED. HOW IS THIS COLLECTED? VERY SLOWLY. WE ARE TRYING TO GET IT TO DOES SOMEONE CARE TO RESPOND TO THAT? I CAN SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO THAT. JUST HAVING LOOKED AT THE, THE PRESENTATION AND THEN ALSO AT THE SITE OF THE ORGANIZATION, FIRST OFF, COLLECTING AND ANALYZING OR ANALYZING THIS DATA IS A REQUIREMENT OF THE CONSENT DECREE. AND SO THIS IS PART OF OUR EFFORTS TO DO THAT. I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS NOT COLLECTING NET NEW DATA, BUT THAT IT IS IN FACT. ANALYZING THE EXISTING DATA THAT WE COLLECT. WE ALREADY COLLECT A MASSIVE TROVE OF DEMOGRAPHIC

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INFORMATION. IN FACT, ANYONE WHO HAS DONE A RIDE ALONG WITH ONE OF OUR LMPD OFFICERS SEES THAT THEY ARE, IN FACT, BASICALLY DATA MACHINES THAT OCCASIONALLY GET OUT TO DO OTHER THINGS. I MEAN, THEY ARE COLLECTING DATA ABOUT EVERY ENCOUNTER THAT THEY HAVE. AND SO THIS IS USING A SPECIFIC SOFTWARE THAT IT WAS DEVELOPED FOR THIS PURPOSE IN ORDER TO DO THE ANALYSIS THERE.

SO IT'S NOT. NET NEW DATA THAT'S BEING COLLECTED. MADAM CLERK WILL BE THE ORDER TO GO BACK TO THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE AND HAVE THE OFFICERS BE PREPARED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS WE MIGHT HAVE. IF SOMEONE WOULD MAKE A MOTION, WE COULD DISSOLVE MOTION IN A SECOND. SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE.

AND AT THIS POINT I WOULD ASK LMPD TO COME FORWARD AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THIS BODY MAY HAVE. OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU ARE ON THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE NOW SO THEY CAN TALK. IT'S NOT A YOU'RE NOT IN THE COMMITTEE. YOU HAVE DISSOLVED YOURSELF INTO A COMMITTEE WHERE THEY CAN ACTUALLY SPEAK NOW. BUT SO YES, ANY ANY YOU CAN ASK ANY QUESTION. YES. ALL RIGHT. GO AHEAD. MADAM, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. I THINK IT WOULD ALSO BE HELPFUL FOR US TO SEE MAYBE WHAT DATA IS COLLECTED FROM OTHER CITIES AND HOW IT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AFTER THAT DATA IS PROCESSED, HOW POLICE DEPARTMENTS. WE'RE DOING THIS RIGHT NOW, IF YOU'VE GOT THE THIS BODY SEEMS TO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. COUNCILWOMAN RUBY HAD SOME QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT.

LET'S GET THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED. DOES ANYONE DO ANYONE IN THE QUEUE HAVE A QUESTION? COUNCILMAN PEACHY. TAKE AWAY. ALLOW ME TO GET THIS STARTED. AND AGAIN, JUST FOR EVERYBODY, PARTICULARLY NEW PEOPLE. WE'VE DONE THIS LIKE ONCE EVERY FOUR YEARS, RIGHT. JUST IMAGINE WE JUST WE ACTUALLY TECHNICALLY JUST RECESSED THE FULL COUNCIL MEETING. WE'RE BACK IN COMMITTEE. THE WHOLE IT'S JUST REGULAR COMMITTEE MEETING. SO LET ME KICK THIS OFF BY SAYING, DEPUTY CHIEF, CAN YOU CAN YOU GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF HOW THIS WILL USE ITS COMPLIANCE WITH THE OR THE REASON THIS IS BEING DONE, THE COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONSENT DECREE AND WHY THIS IS NECESSARY? I THINK IF YOU COULD START WITH A LITTLE BIT OF DETAIL THAT MAYBE TOUCHES ON SOME OF THE QUESTIONS YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD, AND THEN AT THAT POINT, I THINK MY COLLEAGUES CAN START HITTING YOU WITH SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. SURE. AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. EMILY MCKINLEY. I'M THE DEPUTY CHIEF FOR LMPD. SO FIRST I'LL GO BACK AND TALK ABOUT HOW WE COLLECT THE DATA. WE'VE COLLECTED DATA ON OUR STOPS SINCE REALLY SINCE THE BEGINNING OF MERGER, LMPD HAS COLLECTED DATA ON TRAFFIC STOPS. THAT DATA HAS EVOLVED OVER TIME.

INITIALLY IT WAS, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE STOP HAPPENED RACE, SEX, AGE RANGE. NOW IT HAS EVOLVED INTO A LARGER ELECTRONIC FORM THAT OFFICERS COMPLETE WHEN THEY MAKE A TRAFFIC STOP OR A PEDESTRIAN STOP. SO WHETHER THAT'S IN A VEHICLE OR ON FOOT, WHEN THEY STOP A PERSON, THEY COMPLETE A FORM IN OUR MS. SYSTEM. SO OUR RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, IT'S AN ICONIC FORM, JUST LIKE A POLICE REPORT THAT THEY WILL TRACK WHERE THE STOP HAPPENED, WHAT THE ADDRESS WAS OR THE LOCATION THE OFFICERS PRESENT ON THAT STOP. THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF EVERY SUBJECT IN THAT STOP, WHETHER IT'S THE DRIVER OR PASSENGER, ALL THE DEMOGRAPHICS FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED, WHETHER THEY WHY THEY MADE THE STOP. SO WHAT THE PROBABLE CAUSE OR REASONABLE SUSPICION WAS BEHIND THAT STOP. SO THEY ARTICULATE THAT WE REQUIRE THEM TO ARTICULATE THAT.

AND THEN DID THEY DECIDE TO MAKE A SEARCH DURING THAT STOP? SO DID THEY PAT THE PERSON DOWN? DID THEY ASK THEM TO EXIT THE VEHICLE? WHY DID THEY ASK THEM TO DO THAT? SO WHAT WAS THEIR PROBABLE CAUSE OR REASONABLE SUSPICION BEHIND ASKING TO SEARCH A PERSON DURING A TRAFFIC STOP OR A PEDESTRIAN STOP? ALL OF THIS DATA IS COLLECTED IN A FORM BY AN OFFICER. ALSO, IT WILL INCLUDE WHAT HAPPENED DURING THAT SEARCH. SO DID THEY FIND A GUN? DID THEY FIND CONTRABAND? WAS K-9 CALLED? DID K-9 FIND ANYTHING? DID THE PERSON CONSENT TO A SEARCH IF WE ASKED THEM FOR CONSENT? WHAT WAS OUR REASONABLE SUSPICION FOR ASKING FOR CONSENT? SO THERE'S A LOT OF DATA THAT WE COLLECT FROM A 10 TO 15 MINUTE TRAFFIC STOP OR PEDESTRIAN STOP. AND THE PROBLEM IS, IS WE HAVE ALL OF THIS INFORMATION AND WE'VE HAD IT FOR SEVERAL YEARS, BUT WE'VE HAD NO, NO WAY TO EFFECTIVELY ANALYZE THAT DATA TO DETERMINE ARE OUR OFFICERS MAKING THE RIGHT DECISIONS WHEN THEY DECIDE TO MAKE A VEHICLE STOP? WHEN THEY DECIDE TO ASK SOMEONE FOR CONSENT, OR WHEN THEY ARE ASSESSING PROBABLE CAUSE? ARE THEY MAKING THE RIGHT DECISIONS? MEANING ARE THEY FINDING CONTRABAND? WHAT IS THE OUTCOME OF THAT TRAFFIC STOP? AND SO BY LOOKING AT WHEN OFFICERS, FOR EXAMPLE, ARE MAKING TRAFFIC STOPS AND THEY'RE DECIDING TO

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SEARCH VEHICLES, MEANING THE OFFICER HAS HAS DURING THIS STOP DECIDED I HAVE PROBABLE CAUSE OR REASONABLE SUSPICION TO MAKE THIS SEARCH. ARE THEY MAKING THE RIGHT DECISIONS? ARE THEY FINDING CONTRABAND AND HOW OFTEN ARE THEY DOING THAT? AND IS THERE A DIFFERENCE IN THE DEMOGRAPHIC OF THE PERSON OR THE LOCATION THAT THEY'RE DOING THOSE STOPS? AND IF THERE IS, WE NEED TO KNOW THAT BECAUSE I NEED TO WE NEED TO TRAIN THEM BETTER. OR MAYBE THERE'S NOT THERE'S NOT A, AN A DISPARITY THERE WITH WITH THOSE STOPS. AND WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING. AND WE NEED TO TELL THE COMMUNITY THAT WE ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING. I NEED THAT DATA TO DO THAT, AND I NEED THAT DATA TO TRAIN OUR OFFICERS BETTER. I NEED THAT DATA TO COMMUNICATE WITH OUR COMMUNITY BETTER. RIGHT NOW, YES, WE ARE COLLECTING THE DATA. WE HAVE A LOT OF IT, LIKE I SAID. BUT ALL I CAN DO WITH THAT IS AGGREGATE THAT DATA INTO NUMBERS, AND I CAN'T LOOK AT IT EFFECTIVELY IN AN ACADEMICALLY AND PEER REVIEWED SOUND WAY. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS SOFTWARE ALLOWS US TO DO. SO I HOPE THAT ANSWERED A LITTLE BIT OF YOUR QUESTIONS. HAPPY TO TAKE MORE. QUESTION, MR. PRESIDENT. NO, MADAM. MADAM, YOU I DO HAVE A Q UP WORKING AT THE MOMENT.

THE SYSTEM OCCASIONALLY WORKS AND THE PERSON Q IS GOING TO BE COUNCILMAN LINENGER, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS THAT EXCEPT FOR MR. PRESIDENT, SWING AWAY. OKAY. MY FIRST QUESTION IS A CONTRACT PROVISION QUESTION WHERE IT DISCUSSES THAT THE FOR THIS $350,000 SOLE SOURCE CONTRACT, THAT OUR DATA WOULD THEN BECOME PART OF THE WORK PRODUCT OF SIGMA SQUARED AND ENTERED INTO THEIR DATA LAKE. IS THERE AN ANALYSIS OF THE VALUE OF OUR DATA ENTRY INTO THEIR DATA LAKE FOR THEIR FUTURE WORK PRODUCT? I CAN'T SPEAK TO A LOT OF THE TECHNICAL TERMS. I DO KNOW THAT THE SOFTWARE WAS REVIEWED BY METRO AT AS FAR AS SECURITY REQUIREMENTS AND PROVISIONS OF THAT, MY CONCERN IS NOT TOWARDS THE SECURITY OF DATA, ALTHOUGH I GUESS NOW THAT YOU'VE SAID IT, I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS, BUT I MEANT ABOUT THE VALUE THAT WE ARE PROVIDING TO THIS COMPANY ON THIS SOLE SOURCE CONTRACT, ON DATA THAT THEY'RE GOING TO USE FOR FUTURE TRAINING OF THEIR DATA MODELS IN THEIR DATA LAKE. WAS THERE ANY IS THERE ANYTHING ABOUT THE VALUATION OF WHAT WE ARE PROVIDING THIS COMPANY? AS FAR AS LET ME MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING YOUR QUESTION.

RIGHT. THE VALUE THAT THE COMPANY WOULD GET FROM WORKING WITH US, THAT THEY THEY HAVE NOW PERMANENT ACCESS TO OUR THE DATA THAT OUR CITY HAS PROVIDED AND THEY WILL USE IN FUTURE WORK PRODUCT. I MEAN, I THINK ANY COMPANY THAT PARTNERS WITH AN AGENCY WILL ADVERTISE THAT THEY'RE WORKING WITH CERTAIN POLICE DEPARTMENTS. AND NO, BUT THIS SAYS THAT OUR DATA WILL GO INTO INTO PERMANENT STORAGE, INTO THEIR DATA LAKE FOR THEM TO USE FOR FUTURE WORK, PRODUCT AND FUTURE APPLICATIONS. I DON'T I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER. SO THIS WOULD BE A QUESTION THAT COULD ONLY BE ANSWERED BY REPRESENTATIVE OF THE COMPANY. ALL RIGHT. MY SECOND QUESTION AND THANK YOU. I'M SORRY, I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT. SO PART OF THE PRESENTATION IS AN EMPHASIS ON OUTCOME BASED RESULTS IN, SAY, TRAFFIC STOPS, AND THAT IF 50% OF, YOU KNOW, 90% OF TRAFFIC STOPS WERE BLACK MALES AND 10% WERE WHITE MALES, BUT CONTRABAND WAS FOUND AT AN IDENTICAL RATE, THAT WOULD BE A CONFIRMATION OF NON BIAS. CORRECT. THAT'S THAT'S THE POINT OF THE ANALYSIS. THAT WOULD BE THE EXTREME EXAMPLE. YES. SO BUT TAKING FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW CANNABIS WE KNOW FROM PAST STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN DONE ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT THERE IS ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, CONSISTENT RATES OF CANNABIS CONSUMPTION, CANNABIS HOLDING, WHICH IS STILL WHILE WE HAVE DECRIMINALIZED IT FOR SMALL AMOUNTS HERE IN JEFFERSON COUNTY, YOU KNOW, THROUGH ADMINISTRATION, ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION, IT'S STILL ILLEGAL. SO WHILE WE WOULD EXPECT, BASED ON THOSE STUDIES TO FIND THAT WE WOULD, IN SEARCHES, FIND AN IDENTICAL PERCENTAGE IN STOPS DESPITE RACIAL DISPARITY, IF WE STILL FOUND AN INCREASE IN STOPS FOR WITH A RACIAL DISPARITY, EVEN THOUGH THE DATA WOULD SHOW. BUT WE FOUND CONTRABAND AT THE SAME RATE, WOULDN'T THE SUSPICION STILL BE PROOF OF BIAS, EVEN THOUGH IN THE OUTCOME BASED MODEL AS DESCRIBED IN THIS PRESENTATION, THEY WOULD SAY THAT'S PROOF OF NON BIAS. I GUESS I'M NOT FOLLOWING YOUR QUESTION. SO LET'S SAY LET'S SAY YOU HAVE 100 TRAFFIC STOPS AND YOU'VE PULLED OVER 80 PEOPLE WHO ARE BLACK AND FOUND CONTRABAND AT A 40% RATE. OKAY. FOUND FOUND CANNABIS CONTRABAND AT A 40% RATE. AND YOU PULLED OVER 20 PEOPLE WHO WERE WHITE AND FOUND

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CANNABIS AT A 40% RATE. THIS WOULD SAY THAT'S CONFIRMATION OF NON BIAS. THAT'S PROOF THAT THEY ARE NOT BIASED IN THEIR POLICING. AND YET TO ME, THAT'S PROOF OF BIAS IN WHO YOU'RE PULLING OVER. THAT'S THAT'S BIAS IN. WE ARE PULLING OVER DISPROPORTIONATELY BLACK MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC FOR A CRIME THAT IS COMMITTED AT THE SAME RATES AND OVERREPRESENTING BLACK MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC FOR A CRIME THAT WE KNOW AGAIN STATISTICALLY NATIONWIDE VERY WELL STUDIED. THIS CRIME IS COMMITTED AT EQUAL RATES AMONG RACES THAT THAT'S A IT'S BUT THIS THIS ON THE OUTCOMES BASED MODEL THEY WOULD SAY NON BIAS. I MEAN I THINK ON THE OUTCOMES BASED MODEL THE OUTCOMES SHOULD BE SIMILAR ACROSS ALL DEMOGRAPHICS. NO MATTER WHAT THE WHAT SORT OF CONTRABAND YOU'RE YOU'RE SPEAKING OF. AND I THINK WE'RE GETTING INTO A LOT OF HYPOTHETICAL SITUATIONS WHEN IT COMES TO DATA. BUT UNTIL WE HAVE THE DATA TO LOOK AT IT AND RUN IT THROUGH TESTS LIKE THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER WOULD BE. SURE. BUT THIS IS THE POINT OF THIS MEETING IS FOR US TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE GOING TO AWARD THE $350,000 CONTRACT FOR THIS SYSTEM. AND SO I'M ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT THE APPLICABILITY OF THIS OUTCOME BASED MODEL ON DATA WITH, YOU KNOW, A SPECIFIC EXAMPLE OF STATISTIC THAT WE KNOW WE SHOULD FIND SIMILAR CONTRABAND RATES ACROSS RACIAL DISPARITIES. TO ME, THAT'S I FEEL THAT THAT IS CONFIRMATION OF RACIAL BIAS. BUT BUT SPECIFICALLY IN THE OUTCOMES BASED MODEL IN THE PRESENTATION HERE IN THE CONTRACT THAT WOULD BE DESCRIBED AS CONFIRMATION OF NON BIAS. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY.

COUNCILMAN BRADSHAW YOUR NEXT IS Q YOU HAVE THE FLOOR SIR. JUST TWO SHORT QUESTIONS. FIRST I WANT TO SAY THANK TO MISS EMILY FOR HELPING ME. ONE OF MY DARKEST HOURS TWO YEARS AGO. SHE SHE REALLY HELPED ME A LOT. BUT THE THIS IS COMING FROM THE CHIEF REQUESTING THIS. IS IT JUST THE CHIEF OR IS IT ANYONE ELSE ASKING FOR THIS? THIS IS COME FROM FROM THE TOP OF THE.

THIS IS FROM THE EXECUTIVE COMMAND STAFF OF LMPD. AND AGAIN, THERE IS A REQUIREMENT WITHIN THE CONSENT DECREE FOR A COMPREHENSIVE ANNUAL ANALYSIS OF OUR STOPS DATA, WHICH IT'S ALSO A REQUIREMENT IN THE CONSENT DECREE TO COLLECT STOPS DATA IN THE WAY THAT WE ARE COLLECTING STOPS DATA. AND TO ANALYZE THAT ANNUALLY, AT LEAST IN A COMPREHENSIVE WAY. AND WE NEED SOFTWARE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. THANK YOU. AND THIS IS A BUDGET ITEM. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET THE MECHANISM HERE. THIS IS A BUDGET ITEM THAT THEY ASKED FOR THIS. IT'S APPROVED. AND THEN THEY THAT DOESN'T GO THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS. IT'S ALREADY BEEN THE MONEY'S ALREADY BEEN BUDGETED FOR THIS. AND SO ESSENTIALLY SO THIS IS JUST THE CONTRACT OKAY I GET IT.

COUNCILWOMAN PARISH RIGHT. YOU ARE NEXT IN MY QUEUE, MADAM. AND YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. THANK. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I'LL TRY TO KEEP IT SIMPLE. THERE'S BEEN. I WANT LMPD TO HAVE ALL THE DATA THAT THEY NEED, BUT I HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS AROUND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO IT. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, DOES THIS RELY ON SELF REPORTED ACTIONS THAT THEY NEED TO DO? I DON'T HOW IS THIS GOING TO DEAL WITH THE DOCUMENTED LIES THAT LMPD OFFICERS HAVE DONE IN MANY OCCASIONS, WHICH BROUGHT US TO THIS WHOLE POINT AROUND THE CONSENT DECREE? HOW HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE RECTIFIED THROUGH THIS SYSTEM? BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE I LIKE THAT THE STOPS I KNOW THAT FERGUSON HAD WAS WORKING ON SOMETHING SIMILAR BEFORE AND IT SHOWED, BUT WE ALREADY KNOW THAT THERE'S DISCRIMINATION. WE'VE ALREADY HAD THE REPORTS AND ALL OF THAT, AND I DO WANT THINGS TO GET BETTER. BUT WHAT STOPS THEM FROM LYING IS IT JUST LIKE, HOW IS THIS SECURED THAT THEY JUST CAN'T SELF REPORT AND JUST RUN THROUGH THOSE STOPS AND SAY NO, NO, NO, NO TO EVERYTHING. RIGHT. SO THAT'S ALSO WHY WE'VE IMPLEMENTED AN AUDIT UNIT. SO WE HAVE AN AUDIT UNIT TO AUDIT TRAFFIC STOPS TO AUDIT OUR DATA COLLECTION. WHEN AN OFFICER MAKES A TRAFFIC STOP, HE OR SHE THERE'S A REPORT NUMBER THAT'S ISSUED BY THE DISPATCHER. SO EVERY TRAFFIC STOP HAS A REPORT NUMBER THAT'S ASSIGNED TO IT. THAT REPORT NUMBER IS IT AUTOMATICALLY GOES INTO OUR MS. SYSTEM, OUR RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THAT WILL SHOW ON THE OFFICER'S QUEUE THAT THEY HAVE A REPORT TO COMPLETE FOR A PARTICULAR STOP. SO OUR ACCOUNTABILITY MEASURES HAVE IMPROVED GREATLY WITH TECHNOLOGY THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN OFFICERS MAKE A TRAFFIC STOP AGAIN, WE AND WE ALSO HAVE BODY CAMERAS TO DOCUMENT THE STOP AND THE OCCURRENCE OF STOPS. AND SO WHEN AUDITORS REVIEW STOP RANDOM STOP

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DATA, THEY CAN ATTEST THAT YES, WHEN THE OFFICER COMPLETED THE FORM, IT MATCHES WHAT OCCURRED ON THE TRAFFIC STOP FOR THEIR BODY CAMERA VIDEO. AND SO THAT IS OUR WAYS THAT WE ARE HOLDING OFFICERS ACCOUNTABLE AND ENSURING THAT STOPS ARE REPORTED ACCURATELY AND COMPLETELY. I APPRECIATE THAT I CAN READDRESS. YOU STILL HAVE THE FLOOR, MADAM. THANK YOU. WILL THIS ALSO BE COORDINATED WITH BODY CAM FOOTAGE? BECAUSE IT'S JUST BEEN SHOWN THAT WE NEED EVERYTHING. I MEAN, WE CAN LITERALLY HAVE VIDEO AND STILL IT'S THE BENEFIT OF DOUBT. IT'S ALWAYS ON THE OFFICERS AND NEVER ON THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THESE INTERACTIONS. SO WE'LL WE'LL THE AUDITOR OR WHATEVER GROUP THIS IS. ONE. WILL THEY WORK WITH THE INSPECTOR GENERAL AND THEN ALSO WILL THIS INFORMATION BE COMPARED TO THE BODY CAM TO MAKE SURE IT ACTUALLY ISN'T JUST A CHECK AND A BOX? I MEAN, I'M JUST SAYING THE DOJ REPORT, EVERYTHING HAS SHOWN THAT THEY'VE EVEN LIED TO ON WARRANTS. SO THAT GOES TO A JUDGE TO A WHOLE WARRANT PROCESS. SO THIS IS IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE THAT GIVES US THE CHECKS AND BALANCES. THAT IS THE ONLY WAY THAT I CAN BE EVEN HALFWAY ON BOARD IS THAT IT HAS THAT CHECKS AND BALANCES. I'M I'M HEARING HOW IT BENEFITS TO GET THAT AND HOW YOU'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE THE BIRD'S EYE VIEW OF WHATEVER THEY REPORT. BUT WHAT ELSE? WHAT OTHER GUARANTEES DO WE HAVE AS A COMMUNITY THAT THERE'S CHECKS AND BALANCES, RIGHT. YES. LIKE I SAID, THE WE HAVE AN AUDIT UNIT THAT DOES RANDOM REVIEWS OF BODY CAM VIDEO, AS WELL AS OUR SUPERVISORS COMPLETING RANDOM REVIEWS OF BODY CAM VIDEO. WE HAVE AN AUDIT OF GENERAL TRAFFIC STOPS TO ENSURE THAT OFFICERS ARE ACTIVATING THEIR CAMERA, APPROPRIATELY, DEACTIVATING IT, APPROPRIATELY, COMPLETING THE CORRECT PAPERWORK, WHETHER IT'S A STOP FORM OR AN ARREST SLIP OR A POLICE REPORT, AND MAKING SURE THAT THAT WHAT IS IN THOSE REPORTS AS FAR AS WHAT THE WHAT THE OFFICER'S REPORTING IS ACCURATELY REFLECTED IN THAT BODY CAM VIDEO. AND SO, YES, THERE ARE AUDITS THAT ARE CONDUCTED FOR ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT HAVE WERE NOT CONDUCTED PRIOR TO WHEN DURING THE INVESTIGATIVE INVESTIGATION PROCESS, DURING THE DOJ INVESTIGATION. SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT THAT WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE SAYING OCCURS AND THAT WE ARE ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO DO, AGAIN, ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT I JUST WENT OVER ARE ALSO REQUIREMENTS WITHIN OUR CONSENT DECREE AS WELL. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN MULVEY, WOULD YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, MADAM? THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU, DEPUTY CHIEF. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I AM FOR THIS AGAIN. IT IS IN THE DECREE, BUT I JUST COMING FROM A BACKGROUND OF PROJECT MANAGEMENT, ETC, I THINK WE'VE GOT TO LEARN FROM OUR PAST AND BUILD ON IT. RIGHT. SO TAKING THIS DATA AND INFORMATION, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE LEARN IT'S ONLY GOING TO HELP THE TRAINING. L SAID, WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT. AND WHILE WE NOT WANT TO TAKE THE DATA AND REACT TO IT. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING THAT. I HEAR THAT WE'RE CONCERNED. THAT IS THE DATA SKEWED. WE ALREADY HAVE THE AUDIT IN PLACE THAT'S IMPORTANT. MAKING SURE THAT I HEAR THAT BIAS OR NOT BIAS. BUT WE CAN'T JUDGE THAT UNTIL WE HAVE THE DATA IN FRONT OF US. SO I JUST WANT TO AGAIN, MAKE SURE IT IS ON RECORD THAT I DO SUPPORT THIS. COUNCILMAN WEBER, YOU ARE NEXT IN THE QUEUE. THANK YOU. FIRST OFF, I WANT TO SAY THAT I VERY MUCH APPLAUD MY COLLEAGUES FOR HAVING A SKEPTICAL EYE TO THIS, GIVEN THE HISTORY OF OUR COMMUNITY AND THE WAY THAT WE HAVE IN THE PAST CONDUCTED POLICING. AND I ALSO WANT TO APPLAUD THE LMPD FOR PROACTIVELY LOOKING TO GET THE TOOLS THAT THEY NEED TO CREATE ACTIONABLE INTELLIGENCE OUT OF THE TROVES OF DATA THAT THEY DO HAVE. AND IF WHAT WE'RE HEARING IS, YES, WE HAVE LOTS OF INFORMATION, BUT WHAT WE DON'T HAVE IS INSIGHT AND THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT TOOL THAT THEY BELIEVE TO GET TO THAT INSIGHT. I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT STEP JUST TO ADDRESS THE ONE OF THE ISSUES AROUND, BECAUSE I'M PROBABLY, ALTHOUGH MAYBE NOT OUR NERDIEST TECH PERSON ON COUNCIL ANYMORE. WELCOME TO MY COLLEAGUE WHO'S DONE CHANGE MANAGEMENT. BUT I MIGHT BE OUR NERDIEST TECH PERSON. I VERY MUCH WANT OUR DATA TO BECOME PART OF A NATIONAL DATA SET IN WHICH WE CAN DO PEER CITY ANALYSIS TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE COMPARE TO OTHER CITIES, SO THAT WE ALL CAN BE PART OF A LEARNING PROCESS TOGETHER. SO I DO VERY MUCH UNDERSTAND THE IDEA OF OUR DATA GOING TO A DATA LAKE. I ALSO TRUST THAT THERE WILL BE ANONYMIZED AND DEALT WITH IN THE WAY THAT IT SHOULD. BUT I TO A QUESTION THAT COUNCILWOMAN CHAPPELL ASKED EARLIER, WELL, HOW DO WE COMPARE TO OTHER CITIES LIKE I VERY MUCH WANT TO KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. AND I THINK THIS IS A PART OF US BEING

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DOING THAT. SO THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN CHAPPELL, YOU ARE NEXT IN THE QUEUE. HAPPENED OUT WONDERFULLY. THANK YOU FOR THE HAND OFF. YEAH. I GUESS WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE USING THIS PROGRAM? I DO NOT KNOW OF ANY CITY THAT USES THIS PROGRAM SPECIFICALLY. I KNOW THAT THE NEW ORLEANS POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS ALSO LOOKED AT THIS PROGRAM, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE ACTUALLY BEGAN USING IT. IT'S IT IS VERY FAIRLY NEW IN LAW ENFORCEMENT. I KNOW THIS COMPANY HAS A HISTORY OF USING THE SOFTWARE TO ANALYZE BIAS IN HIRING PRACTICES IN CORPORATE COMPANIES. SO THAT WAS THEIR THEIR PREVIOUS OR ORIGINAL USE FOR THIS TECHNOLOGY, NOT NECESSARILY WITHIN LAW ENFORCEMENT. SO THEIR THEIR ROLE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT IS RELATIVELY NEW. SURE. THIS KIND OF JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS COUNCILMAN LENNON COMMENTS ABOUT AI, BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S LEARNING THE DATA THAT WE'RE GIVING TO, IT IS VERY VALUABLE, BECAUSE THINGS CAN ONLY GET SMARTER IF WE'RE GIVING IT THE INFORMATION TO LEARN. AND SO OUR INFORMATION THAT WE ARE PROVIDING TO THEM IS INNATELY MAKING THEIR PRODUCT, AT LEAST HOPEFULLY BETTER AND STRONGER.

AND SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO US TO BE COGNIZANT OF THAT. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEIR PRODUCT PRODUCT SHOULD BE FREE, BUT I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO BE AWARE THAT WE'RE THIS IS A BENEFIT FOR A VERY. FOR SOMETHING THAT IS ONE OF KIND THAT IS ALSO IN ITS INFANCY. SO JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT. BUT THIS SOLELY FOCUSES ON TRAFFIC STOPS. NO, NOT NECESSARILY. SO THEY ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO LOOK AT OUR USE OF FORCE DATA, OUR ARRESTS, NOT JUST TRAFFIC STOPS, PEDESTRIAN STOPS. SO A VARIETY OF OFFICER INTERACTIONS. WE CAN USE THIS SOFTWARE TO ANALYZE OUR DATA THAT WE COLLECT FOR ALL OF THOSE THINGS. DO YOU ROUGHLY HAVE A NUMBER FOR IN 2024? HOW MANY INTERACTIONS FALL UNDER THE BLANKET THAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED? I KNOW FOR ABOUT IN THE PAST FEW YEARS, WE'VE CONDUCTED ANYWHERE BETWEEN 30 AND 40,000 TRAFFIC STOPS ANNUALLY. SO THAT'S HOW MANY TRAFFIC STOPS. SO ADD, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ANOTHER 10 TO 15,000 OR MORE PEDESTRIAN STOPS, BUT THAT'S HOW MANY INTERACTIONS AS FAR AS STOPPING PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE, I DON'T HAVE USE OF FORCE NUMBERS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I DO KNOW THAT'S HOW MANY TRAFFIC STOPS WE ENGAGE IN ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. THAT'S A PRETTY LARGE NUMBER. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE ALREADY SAID THAT WE HAVE LOADS OF DATA, BUT WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO INTERPRET IT. AND THIS SEEMS LIKE AN INTERPRETATION OF DATA. AND THEN THAT'S LEFT UP TO THE INTERPRETATION OF LMPD TO INTERPRET THAT. SO I JUST A LITTLE DISHEARTENING THAT IT'S DIFFICULT FOR US TO ANALYZE THE DATA THAT WE ALREADY HAVE. AND THEN WHEN WE HAVE REPORTS OF THE CHIEF OF POLICE. GOING AGAINST THE INSPECTOR GENERAL, WE HAVE A CITIZEN REVIEW AND ACCOUNTABILITY BOARD. WE HAVE THE CONSENT DECREE THROUGH THE DOJ. WE HAVE ALL OF THESE THINGS. AND I COMPLAIN ABOUT THIS NOT JUST WITH LMPD, BUT ACROSS THE BOARD IN LOUISVILLE METRO. WE LOVE GETTING DATA, BUT THEN NEVER REALLY DOING ANYTHING WITH IT. SO I'M I'M SURE THAT THIS WILL PASS TONIGHT, BUT I'M INTERESTED TO COME BACK A YEAR FROM NOW AFTER THIS 12 MONTH CONTRACT AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE LEARNED AND THIS IS HOW WE'RE MAKING CORRECTIONS BASED ON WHAT WE LEARNED. AND ODDLY. I'VE DONE A FEW RIDE ALONGS AND POLICE, YOU HAVE ALL SORTS OF GIZMOS ON YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IF YOU TOUCH THIS BUTTON, IF YOU DID THAT, IF YOU LOOK THIS WAY, IF YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING. AND SO THIS IS GOING TO SOUND ODD COMING FROM ME, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE OVERPOLICING OUR POLICE AND ALMOST INSTILLING A FEAR OF BIAS IN THEM THAT WILL PREVENT THEM FROM ACTUALLY DOING THEIR JOB. UNBIASED. SO IT SOUNDS PRETTY WEIRD. I'M SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE LIKE, SHE SOUNDS A LITTLE CRAZY, BUT I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT INTO THE RECORD. AND SO THAT'S NOT A QUESTION. I APOLOGIZE, AND I JUST TOOK UP A LOT OF TIME. I APPRECIATE THAT, AND I HOPE OUR OFFICERS SEE THIS AS A TOOL TO HELP THEM POLICE BETTER AND MAKE DECISIONS BETTER. AND SO HOPEFULLY AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET YOU SOME DATA SOONER THAN A YEAR FROM NOW. I WOULD LIKE TO REPORT ON THAT IN REAL TIME AS WE GET THIS GOING. SO THANK YOU, COLLEAGUES.

JUST BEING THE UNUSUAL SITUATION, WE'VE LEFT THE COUNCIL MEETING AND WE'VE GONE BACK TO THE COMMITTEE, THE WHOLE I AS PRESIDENT AND NOW A CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE, WHICH MEANS I CAN SPEAK TO THIS FROM THE CHAIR AND I WOULD SAY THIS, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THE

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CONSENT DECREE. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT WILL IT BE RETURNED, WILL BE UPHELD. THIS ADMINISTRATION, OUR MAYOR, HAS SAID HE'S COMMITTED TO MOVING FORWARD REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE DOJ REQUIRES OR THE COURT SAYS. THIS IS IN THE CONSENT DECREE. MY HAT IS OFF TO THE ADMINISTRATION FOR MOVING FORWARD WITH THE CONSENT DECREE, NOT WAITING AND ABANDONING THIS POSITION. AND SO FOR ALL MY COLLEAGUES WHO HAD CONCERN, YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IF THE CONSENT DECREE GETS SET ASIDE. THIS IS PROVING IT. WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH IT REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE JUDICIAL OUTCOME IS. AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOUR SUPPORT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CONSENT DECREE. THE NEXT IN THE QUEUE IS GOING TO BE COUNCILMAN VACHON. MR. PRESIDENT, I WITHDRAW MY COMMENTS. I THINK WE'RE ALL GOOD HERE. NEXT IS COUNCILMAN PICCININI. YES. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS. AND I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RECONVENE THE COUNCIL MEETING, PLEASE. SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF RECONVENING THE COUNCIL MEETING? ANY IN OPPOSITION HEARING? NO OPPOSITION PASSES. AND THE COUNCIL MEETING. THANK YOU. IS CONTINUED. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? COUNCILMAN LINENGER, YOU'RE IN THE QUEUE. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, SIR. YES. WITH RESPECT TO COUNCILMAN RENA WEBBER, WHO I HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR, AND I THINK HE KNOWS THAT I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM IN THE PAST WITH POLICE ACTION. WE HAVE A PROBLEM IN THE PRESENT, AND THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE CONSENT DECREE. IF WE ONLY HAD A PROBLEM IN THE PAST, WE WOULDN'T NEED A CONSENT DECREE, WHICH WE DO NEED. THE CONSENT DECREE INHERENT IN THE CONSENT DECREE IS OVERSIGHT WITH TEETH HIRING, FIRING POWER. SUBPOENA POWER. OUTSIDE AUTHORITY BEYOND THE CITY. THAT'S WHAT. THAT'S WHAT THE CONSENT DECREE MEANS. I APPLAUD COMMITMENT TO THE CONSENT DECREE FROM THE ADMINISTRATION, FROM MY COLLEAGUES HERE ON THE COUNCIL.

IF WE'RE GOING TO TALK THAT TALK, WE BETTER WALK THAT WALK ABOUT WHAT THE CONSENT DECREE ABSOLUTELY MEANS. I HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS THAT I FEEL CAN ONLY BE ANSWERED BY THE COMPANY THAT'S OFFERING THIS PRODUCT. WHO IS NOT AVAILABLE TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS TONIGHT? YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE SEND THIS BACK TO COMMITTEE SO WE CAN HAVE A MORE THOROUGH DISCUSSION WITH THE COMPANY ON THE RECORD SO WE CAN FIND OUT SOME INFORMATION DEEP THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT IS PERTAINING TO THIS CONTRACT, PERTAINING TO THIS PRESENTATION, WHICH AGAIN, I FIND EXTREMELY CONCERNING. I'D LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND MOTION IS MADE. SECOND, ALL THOSE ALL ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF SENDING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE SAY AYE. AYE AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. NO, MADAM. ROLL CALL PLEASE. COUNCIL MEMBER. PARISH RIGHT.

YES. SEND IT BACK. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. MR. OKAY. IS THAT EVERYONE? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER.

KRAMER, I DON'T HAVE YOURS. OH, NO. IT'S WHETHER YOU WANT TO SEND IT BACK. YES. AS YOU SEND IT BACK NOW OR SHOULD I SEND IT BACK? THIS IS NOT SENDING IT BACK. BACK? YES. THIS IS VOTING ON SENDING IT BACK. A YES VOTE IS TO SEND IT BACK TO COMMITTEE. A NO VOTE IS TO KEEP IT HERE ON THE FLOOR. I THINK THAT'S IT, RIGHT? YEAH. MR. PRESIDENT, YOU HAVE NINE YES VOTES AND 15 NO VOTES. THE MOTION FAILS. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? I SEE NO ONE IN THE QUEUE. I SEE NO ONE WAVING ME DOWN. THIS IS AN ITEM THAT REQUIRES A ROLL CALL. VOTE, MADAM CLERK, OPEN THE ROLL. COUNCIL MEMBER. PARISH RIGHT. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. YOU'RE LOOKING. NO WORRIES. AND YOU? ARE YOU. WOULD WOULD WOULD YOU LIKE? GOT YOU. I GOT YOU AS A YES, SIR. I GOT I ENTERED YOU AS A YES. PROBABLY BECAUSE I ENTERED THAT. I'M SORRY SIR. MR. PRESIDENT, YOU HAVE 19 YES VOTES, FOUR NO VOTES AND ONE PRESENT VOTE. THE RESOLUTION IS

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ADOPTED. COUNCILMEMBER, I THINK YOU'VE GOT A MOTION. YES. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK A MOTION TO RECONSIDER. ITEM 3434. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. THERE'S A MOTION TO RECONSIDER ITEM 34. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF RECONSIDERING ITEM NUMBER 34 SAY AYE. I IN OPPOSITION. IN OPPOSITION. THE MOTION PASSES AND WE ARE BACK ON ITEM NUMBER 34. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WANTED TO BRING UP SECOND. MADAM, CAN I PLEASE. YES. SO I NEED TO READ AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ANOTHER MOTION BEFORE WE START. I'M SO SORRY. AND ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING $12,250 FOR DEVELOPMENT FUNDS IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER. $8,000 FROM DISTRICT 21. $1,500 FROM DISTRICT TEN, 1250 FROM DISTRICT 24, $1,000 FROM DISTRICT EIGHT, AND $500 FROM DISTRICT FIVE THROUGH THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET TWO PRESTON AREA BUSINESS ALLIANCE FOR OPERATING FUNDS FOR SALARIES FOR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND PART TIME MARKETING MANAGER. PLUS THERE WERE ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS READ IN FULL. SECOND, I WAS PROPERLY BEFORE US. COUNCILOR MURRAY, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO IT WAS MENTIONED IN THE INTRODUCTION TO THIS THAT THEY COULD COME BACK FOR MONEY REPEATEDLY. AND THIS IS THE ONLY ORGANIZATION. THEY'VE ONLY BEEN AROUND A COUPLE OF YEARS. BUT AS NOTED, FOREST FEST COMES BACK EVERY YEAR FOR MONEY. MANY ORGANIZATIONS COME BACK EVERY YEAR FOR MONEY FOR DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES, DIFFERENT EVENTS. WE HAVE ORGANIZATIONS FOR PREVENTING VIOLENCE. THEY COME BACK REPEATEDLY FOR MONEY. I DON'T SEE HOW THIS IS ANY DIFFERENT. WE ARE ASKING FOR MONEY TO SUPPORT AN ORGANIZATION THAT IS INVOLVED IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND I THINK EVERYBODY HERE KNOWS THAT JOBS ARE IMPORTANT, AND STARTING BUSINESSES IS A WAY TO PROVIDE JOBS AND GIVE PEOPLE A MEANS OF PROVIDING FOR THEIR FAMILIES. SO ONCE AGAIN, I WOULD ASK PEOPLE TO SUPPORT ME IN THIS AND PLEASE PROVIDE ADDITIONAL FUNDS. THEY DO A LOT OF GOOD WORK AND THEY'RE JUST GETTING ON THEIR FEET. THANK YOU. I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WE WERE CALLING THIS BACK UP, THAT YOU HAD SOMEONE ALREADY THAT WAS GOING TO GIVE ADDITIONAL FUNDS. YES, COUNCILMAN. COUNCILMAN OWEN 500 FROM DISTRICT NINE. YOU SAY THAT. COUNCILMAN WINKLER OH TWO 5250 FOR 1702 51. I DON'T, MR. PRESIDENT. YES, MA'AM. I'M NOT SURE IF I GAVE, BUT I WANT TO GIVE. MADAM CLERK, HAS SHE HAS NOT GIVEN YET. YOU HAVE NOT GIVEN YET, COUNCILWOMAN. THANK YOU. 500 FROM DISTRICT THREE. OKAY, I CAN SECOND. YES, SIR. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? COUNCILMAN SIGN 500, DISTRICT 13. COUNCILWOMAN BLAST 250 FROM 14. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? MOTION. MADAM CLERK, WHAT IS THE ITEM AT NOW? HOW MUCH THE TOTAL ASK IS 21,000. THEY HAVE 14,500. THE REMAINING AMOUNT IS 6500. OKAY. SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE THIS. WE HAVE AN AMENDED. DOCTO. SHANKLIN, I WANT TO GIVE 500, PLEASE. OUR COMPUTERS NOW. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ON ANY. WE'VE GOT A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND SECOND. THE AMENDED ITEM IS PROPERLY BEFORE US. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE NEWLY AMENDED ITEM SAY AYE. AYE. ANY IN OPPOSITION? NO. OPPOSITION. THE AMENDED ITEM IS NOW FULLY BEFORE US AND ACCEPTED. MADAM CLERK, OPEN THE ROLL CALL ON THE AMENDED ITEM. COUNCIL MEMBER. PARISH. RIGHT. YES. COUNSELOR.

OKAY, SHE'S DOING IT. HOLD ON. COUNCIL MEMBER. WINKLER. OKAY, OKAY. GO AHEAD, MR. PRESIDENT.

YOU HAVE 24 YES VOTES. THE ORDINANCE IS ADOPTED. MADAM CLERK, A READING OF ITEM NUMBER

[36. R-013-25 A RESOLUTION REQUESTING THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW THE LOUISVILLE METRO LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REGULATIONS WITH REGARD TO FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS. (AS AMENDED) 2/4/25 Planning and Zoning Committee Amended; Recommended for Approval Action Required By July 30, 2025 Sponsors: Khalil Batshon (R-25) ]

36. A RESOLUTION REQUESTING THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW THE LOUISVILLE METRO LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REGULATIONS AND REGARD TO FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS, AS AMENDED, READ IN FULL. THOSE ITEM IS PROPERLY BEFORE US. THIS IS A RESOLUTION THAT CAME OUT OF COUNCILMAN OWEN. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THIS IS A RESOLUTION REQUESTING THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO REVIEW THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REGARDING FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS AND MORE SPECIFICALLY, PAYDAY LENDING STORES. THE RESOLUTION REQUESTS STAFF TO DETERMINE IF ALL FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS

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SHOULD BE REGULATED THE SAME, OR SHOULD THEY SPLIT BE SPLIT INTO SEPARATE CATEGORIES. SCENE RESOLUTION SEEKS TO LIMIT THE PROLIFERATION OF PAYDAY LENDING STORES THROUGH ZONING REGULATIONS. IT WAS AMENDED GIVING THE PLANNING COMMISSION 180 DAYS TO TURN AROUND THEIR REPORT, AND THAT AMENDMENT WAS APPROVED BY ACCLAMATION. THIS WAS SPONSORED BY COUNCILMAN BACHAND, SO I'M SURE HE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO IT. COUNCILMAN BATROUN, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, SIR. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I JUST LOOK FOR EVERYONE'S SUPPORT ON THIS TO ALLOW THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO DO THIS REVIEW. I THINK IT IS AN ABSOLUTE NECESSARY NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR OUR UPCOMING DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH IN THE CITY OF LOUISVILLE. SO I LOOK FOR EVERYBODY'S SUPPORT. COUNCILMAN KRAMER, THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WANT TO COMMEND THE SPONSORS FOR THEIR WORK ON THIS SOME NUMBER OF YEARS AGO. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY FOLKS REMEMBER THAT LEONARD WATKINS, A FORMER BANKER, WAS ON THE COUNCIL WITH US, AND HE AND I SAT DOWN TO TRY AND LOOK AT WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH PAYDAY LENDING AND SPECIFICALLY WITH PREDATORY LENDING AS A RESULT OF THOSE INSTITUTIONS. BUT WE DISCOVERED AT THE TIME WAS THE APPROACH THAT WE WERE GOING WITH WAS TO LOOK AT WAYS TO REGULATE THAT. AND BECAUSE IT'S BANKING, METRO COUNCIL CAN'T REGULATE BANKING. THAT'S A STATE REGULATION. I WISH WE HAD REALIZED AND UNDERSTOOD THE ZONING STUFF AS WELL AS MY COLLEAGUES DO, AND THAT WE WOULD HAVE ALL THOSE YEARS AGO TAKEN ON THIS AS AN APPROACH. SO I COMMEND THE SPONSORS. I THINK IT'S GREAT.

I'M HOPING THAT I COULD BE ADDED AS A SPONSOR, AND I WOULD ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO PLEASE BE VERY AWARE OF WHERE PAYDAY LENDING INSTITUTIONS ARE LOCATED. KNOW FOR CERTAIN THAT'S NOT A MISTAKE. THEY ARE VERY FREQUENTLY INVOLVED IN THE WORST KINDS OF PREDATORY LENDING. AND SO IF WE CAN IF THE ZONING FOLKS CAN FIND A WAY, ACTUALLY, I SHOULDN'T SAY FIND A WAY SEPARATING OUT AND RECOGNIZING PAYDAY LENDING AS WHAT THEY ARE. THEN WHEN WE START ZONING CONVERSATIONS AND WE CAN HAVE A DIFFERENT SET OF CONVERSATIONS THAN WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO HAVE IN THE PAST. AND SO, AGAIN, I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE SPONSORS FOR THIS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I WANT TO BE ADDED AS A SPONSOR. COUNCILMAN JOSEPH, YOU'RE NEXT. COUNCILMAN BASTIAN, I THINK YOU'RE SPOT ON WITH THIS. AND I ECHO WHAT COUNCILMAN KRAMER WAS SAYING, I THINK PAYDAY LOANS OFTENTIMES DON'T IMPROVE OUR COMMUNITIES. AND I THINK THAT THE SOUTH END HAS SEEN THEM COME AND COME AND COME AND COME. AND I DON'T THINK THE PAYDAY LOANS AND BANKS DESERVE TO BE IN EXACTLY THE SAME SPOTLIGHT. AND I FEEL LIKE OFTENTIMES THEY HAVE BECOME THAT WAY. SO I THINK YOU'RE SPOT ON, COUNCILMAN, AND I WOULD AS WELL LIKE TO BE CONSIDERED AS A SPONSOR AS WELL. COUNCILMAN WINKLER THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. AND THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN BUCKHORN, FOR INTRODUCING THIS AND SPONSORING THIS. I FULLY SUPPORT THIS. I ALSO FULLY EXPECT THIS TO BE PREEMPTED BY FRANKFURT IN A MATTER OF TWO YEARS. AND SO IF YOU KNOW, THE TRACK RECORD HAS BEEN ANY INDICATION, I HOPE THAT MY COLLEAGUES ACROSS THE AISLE WILL WILL WORK WITH OUR LEGISLATORS IN THE STATE TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR ZONING ACTIONS LOCALLY DON'T CONTINUALLY GET PREEMPTED, WHETHER IT IS OUR PET STORE ORDINANCE OR SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE, YOU KNOW, OR ANY OTHER ORDINANCE THAT DEALS WITH ZONING. YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S BEEN A TREND FOR THOSE REGULATIONS TO BE OVERTURNED IN FRANKFURT, AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL FIGHT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN WITH US. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN BRATCHER. YOU'RE NEXT TO THE QUEUE ON THE FLOOR, SIR. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I AM A CO-SPONSOR. OKAY? THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN ARGENTINA, YOUR NEXT IN THE QUEUE, SIR. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. WANT TO ADDRESS SOME OF MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUES CONCERN FROM FROM MY NEIGHBORING DISTRICT OVER HERE. LOOK, I. MOSTLY AGREE THAT. BUT I THINK PRESIDENT ANDERSON HAS ASKED THIS CAUCUS MYSELF AS THE CAUCUS CHAIR, TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE COMMUNICATING FAR MORE WITH FRANKFORT AND ON THAT. AND IN THAT TONE, I ASKED THE MEMBERS OF THE MINORITY CAUCUS TO DO THIS. I WOULD ASK THE MEMBERS OF THE MAJORITY CAUCUS TO CONSIDER THIS AS WELL. WE ARE TRYING TO BUILD THESE RELATIONSHIPS MORE THAN EVEN WITH THE MAYOR IS DOING. THE MAYOR, TO HIS CREDIT, HAS SPENT A LOT OF TIME OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS IN FRANKFORT BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SCENARIO THAN WE HAD THREE YEARS AGO, AND WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE SAME. SO THEY HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITY TO PERSONALIZE US, GET TO KNOW US BETTER AND UNDERSTAND MAYBE SOME OF THE CONTEXT BEHIND SOME OF THE LAWS WE PASS. I'M NOT SAYING THEY'RE GONNA AGREE WITH US ALL THE TIME. THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, I GOT TO SEE HOW THINGS PLAY OUT. YOU KNOW, I CAN'T MAKE WHOLEHEARTED COMMITMENTS, BUT I DO MAKE THE COMMITMENT THAT WE WILL AND SHOULD. AND I WOULD WELCOME ANYBODY ELSE TO WORK

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WITH US TO BUILD THOSE RELATIONSHIPS WITH FRANKFORT, BECAUSE I THINK WHAT WE SAW LAST YEAR, PARTICULARLY IN THE FRANKFORT IN THE STATE BUDGET CYCLE, WE ACTUALLY SAW WHEN THE CITY AND THE STATE WORKED TOGETHER. WHAT YOU ACTUALLY SEE IS THERE'S NOT A WAR ON LOUISVILLE. THERE'S ACTUALLY TREMENDOUS INVESTMENT IN THIS CITY. AND SO AND I THINK PART OF THAT INCUMBENCY IS ON US TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE GETTING TO KNOW OUR GENERAL ASSEMBLY MEN AND WOMEN SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT, AND THEN WE CAN WORK TOGETHER ON FINDING COMMON GROUND. BUT I DO COMMIT TO WORKING ON MAKING SURE, AND I KNOW MYSELF AM NOT. I'M A BIG FEDERALIST PERSON, FEDERAL, STATE AND LOCAL. I WANT TO SEE LOCAL PUSH TO HIS LOCAL OR CONTROL PUSHED TO HIS CLOSEST TO THE CITIES AS POSSIBLE. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? YES. MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT YOU HAVE BEFORE, MADAM. THANK YOU. I THINK THIS IS SENSIBLE LEGISLATION. I THINK THINGS SOUND DIFFERENT WHEN OTHER PEOPLE SAY IT. AND FOR ONCE, EVEN WITH HIS LONG EXPLANATION, I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN PIAGENTINI ABOUT BUILDING THOSE RELATIONSHIPS ACROSS THE LINE AND WORKING AND DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S ABOUT LEGISLATION THAT IMPROVES AND SAVES LIVES HERE IN LOUISVILLE. I WOULD LIKE TO BE ADDED AS A CO-SPONSOR FOR THIS. I'VE SEEN THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF PAYDAY LENDING, AND I THINK IT'S PAST TIME THAT THIS HAPPENED. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN, DO YOU HAVE THE FLOOR? YES. I WANT TO AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN KRAMER. THESE INSTITUTIONS ARE VERY PREDOMINANTLY TARGETED AT, YOU KNOW, THE POOREST MEMBERS OF THE WORKING CLASS. THEY ARE PREDOMINANTLY TARGETED BLACK. THESE ARE PREDATORY. ABSOLUTELY.

IT IS EXTREME HARM IN OUR COMMUNITIES, EXTREME LOSS OF WEALTH FROM PEOPLE WHO CANNOT AFFORD THAT LOSS OF WEALTH. I WOULD LIKE TO JOIN MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES, AND CERTAINLY, IT SEEMS A PREPONDERANCE OF MY COLLEAGUES FROM THE MINORITY CAUCUS, I WOULD ASK TO BE CONSIDERED FOR CO-SPONSORSHIP OF THIS. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN BASS, DO YOU HAVE THE FLOOR? I JUST WANTED TO FULLY SUPPORT THIS, AND I'D LIKE TO ECHO WHAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS SAID, AND I WOULD PROUDLY LIKE TO BE ADDED AS A CO-SPONSOR. ALSO, COUNCILMAN HARDEN, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO BE ADDED AS A CO-SPONSOR. COUNCILWOMAN SHANKLIN YES, I DO HAVE PLENTY OF I HAVE PLENTY OF THOSE PAYDAY LENDERS IN MY DISTRICT. SO I DEFINITELY LIKE TO BE CO-SPONSOR. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? COUNCILMEMBER, I WOULD SENTIMENT PLEASE ANYONE ELSE. I THINK WE ARE JUST ALL AROUND THE ENTIRE IT'S WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 25 CO-SPONSORS ON THIS. WHO'S THAT? OKAY. WE'RE HAVING 20. WE'VE GONE FROM 25 TO 24, 24 CO-SPONSORS. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? HEARING? NONE. THIS IS A RESOLUTION THAT REQUIRES A VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. NEED I ASK ANY OPPOSITION HEARING? NONE. THIS IS A RESOLUTION THAT IS ADOPTED. MADAM CLERK, A READING OF ITEM

[37. O-014-25 AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE ZONING OF PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 11800 AND 11806 EAST ORELL ROAD CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 1.64 ACRES AND BEING IN LOUISVILLE METRO (CASE NO. 24ZONE0100). (AS AMENDED) 2/4/25 Planning and Zoning Committee Amended; Recommended for Approval 1/21/25 Planning and Zoning Committee Tabled Action Required By February 21, 2025 Sponsors: Markus Winkler (D-17) ]

NUMBER 37. I WAS NOT LISTENING. SORRY. THANK YOU. AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE ZONING OF PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 11 111 800 OKAY, 11800 AND 11806 EAST EARL ROAD, CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 1.64 ACRES AND BEING A METRO CASE NUMBER 24, ZONE 0100 AS AMENDED, AND FULL ITEMS PROPERLY BEFORE IS COUNCILMAN OWEN, THIS CAME OUT OF YOUR COMMITTEE? THE FLOOR IS YOURS. THANK YOU.

PRESIDENT, THIS IS A REZONING OF ON EAST ORO ROAD CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 1.64 ACRES. IT'S A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R4 TO C1. THIS WAS PART OF A LARGER DEVELOPMENT, WAS MY UNDERSTANDING. IT'S LOCATED IN DISTRICT 14. I'M SURE COUNCILWOMAN BEST WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THIS ONE, AND I'LL GIVE HER THAT OPPORTUNITY IN JUST A MOMENT. IT'S A DEVELOPMENT OF A MCDONALD'S ON CORNER OF DIXIE HIGHWAY AND FLOWER VALE LANE. IT'S A 30 700 SQUARE FOOT MCDONALD'S WITH A DRIVE THRU CONSTRUCTED RIGHT NEAR A LONG DAIRY QUEEN THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME. THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVED THE CHANGE IN ZONING, FACADE WAIVER, SETBACK VARIANCE AND DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT PLANS SEVEN TO NOTHING DURING THE COMMITTEE MEETING, TRAVIS FEASTER READ A STATEMENT FROM COUNCILWOMAN BASS, AND I'M SURE SHE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE STATEMENT THAT SHE PROVIDED TO US AT THE COMMITTEE. THERE WAS AN AMENDMENT THAT WAS BINDING ELEMENT NUMBER TEN, TO LENGTHEN THE NUMBER OF YEARS FOR CROSS CONNECTIVITY WITH THE SOUTHERN PARCEL FROM 5 TO 10 YEARS. AND THAT WAS AMENDED, ADOPTED BY

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