[6. R-146-24 A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE JEFFERSON COUNTY SHERIFF’S 2025 BUDGET. Action Required By: May 21, 2025 Sponsors: Rick Blackwell (D-12) ]

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SKIP UP TO ITEM SIX. A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE JEFFERSON COUNTY SHERIFF'S 2025 BUDGET MOTION. SECOND, TO APPROVE MOTION. THE SECOND, SHERIFF AUBRY, PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR SOMEONE WHO WOULDN'T KNOW WHO YOU ARE. ALTHOUGH I HAVE NO IDEA WHO THAT MIGHT BE, I WOULDN'T KNOW WHO YOU ARE. JOHN AUBREY, JEFFERSON COUNTY SHERIFF. THANK YOU. AND THE FLOOR IS YOURS, COUNCILMAN BLACK. WELL, CO-CHAIR KRAMER AND BUDGET COMMITTEE MEMBERS, THIS IS A 21ST TIME THAT I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE FOR YOUR REVIEW. AND APPROVAL OF THE JEFFERSON COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE BUDGET. PRIOR TO 2003, WE WENT TO FISCAL COURT OVERALL, 2024 HAS BEEN A VERY POSITIVE YEAR FOR OUR OFFICE, AND WE DID A LOT OF ENHANCED RECRUITING AND RETENTION IN MOST LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES. I KNOW THAT'S NUMBER ONE ON THEIR LIST.

WE HAVE DEPUTY RECRUITS IN BASIC TRAINING AT RICHMOND. WE GOT THREE SCHEDULED TO GRADUATE IN FEBRUARY, SIX WAITING TO GET A SEAT IN THE CLASS. AND WE GOT FIVE COURT SECURITY OFFICERS THAT ARE GRADUATING IN MARCH. THESE ADDITIONS WILL RELIEVE SOME OF THE PRESSURES WE ARE CURRENTLY EXPERIENCING WITH SCHEDULING OF OUR PERSONNEL. OUR ENTIRE OFFICE IS INVOLVED IN A MASSIVE RECRUITING CAMPAIGN, INCLUDING SETTING UP RECRUITING BOOTHS IN PLACES LIKE STATE FAIR, SAINT JOE'S PICNIC AND THE WEST END APPRECIATION DINNER DAY AT SHAWNEE PARK. WE HAVE THIS YEAR AND ARE WORKING ON A NEW TV RECRUITING, RECRUITING, COMMERCIAL THAT FEATURES SPECIFIC UNITS IN OUR OFFICE. WE'VE GOT RECRUITING STANDS AND SHOPPING CENTERS, AND ON SOCIAL MEDIA. THE MAIN POINT I WANT TO LEAVE WITH YOU ABOUT RECRUITING. THE MOST IMPORTANT RECRUITERS WE HAVE IS OUR EMPLOYEES. IF THEY KNOW SOMEBODY THAT'S LOOKING AND THEY TELL THEM IT'S A GOOD PLACE TO WORK, THAT GOES A LONG WAY TO WHAT WE NEED. THIS YEAR, WE'VE INCREASED OUR SWORN EMPLOYEES BY 13, AND WE'RE STILL ABOUT 20 SHORT. DURING THIS YEAR, 2024, WE WERE ABLE TO INCREASE SALARIES FOR ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES BY 10%. HOWEVER, OUR DEPUTY SALARIES ARE STILL LOWER THAN METRO POLICE OFFICERS AND 7 TO 9000 LOWER THAN BULLITT COUNTY. SHIVELY AND SOME OF THE OTHER LOCAL AGENCIES IN THIS PROPOSED BUDGET, WE ANTICIPATE ANOTHER 10% INCREASE IN WAGES ACROSS THE BOARD FOR ALL EMPLOYEES. A REVIEW OF THE ACTUAL 2025 ACTUAL INCREASES IN EXPENSES WILL DETERMINE THAT AMOUNT IN THE TIMING OF THE INCREASE, GIVEN SHERIFF'S OFFICE EMPLOYEES PARTICIPATE IN THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES RETIREMENT SYSTEM, ONLY FULL TIME POSITIONS PARTICIPATE IN THIS RETIREMENT SYSTEM. NEITHER OUR PART TIME NOR SEASONAL WORKERS PARTICIPATE IN THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM. THE CURRENT CONTRIBUTION RATE IS 38.61% OF SALARIES FOR EMPLOYEES IN THE HAZARDOUS SYSTEM. IN 19.71% FOR OUR CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES. AND I KNOW IT'S ALMOST UNHEARD OF PROBABLY, BUT THE CURRENT RATES ARE 4 TO 5% LESS THAN A YEAR BEFORE. THE UNKNOWN ALWAYS IS. WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO? JULY? YEAH, JULY THE 1ST, 2025 NUMBER OF MAJOR UPGRADES THIS YEAR, SOME OF WHICH WE HAD OUTLINED IN OUR BUDGET PRESENTATION LAST DECEMBER. THEY COMPLETED THE INSTALLATION OF A NEW DRIVER SIMULATOR IN OUR TRAINING UNIT.

EXTREMELY VALUABLE. THEY INSTALLED MOBILE MOBILE DATA TERMINALS IN THE CRIMINAL UNIT VEHICLES WITH PRINTERS, SCANNERS AND DOCKING STATIONS COMPLETED. THE CIVIL PROGRAM FOR MY LEAVES TO TAILOR CIVIL SERVICE PROGRAM WITH NEW SERVICE, UPDATED EMAIL SERVERS TO CLOUD BASE. UPDATED

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ALL PCS TO OFFICE 365 AND UPGRADED TO TAX AND TAM SYSTEM TO A NEW SYSTEM. IBM POWER OF TEN MAJOR UPGRADES WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO IN 2025. IMPLEMENT NEW TECHNOLOGY WITH OUR AUTO INSPECTION UNIT FOR THE INSPECTION OF OUT-OF-TOWN VEHICLES. ANY VEHICLE COMING INTO JEFFERSON COUNTY FROM OUT OF STATE HAS TO BE INSPECTED BEFORE THE CLERK'S OFFICE INSPECTED, AND PASSED BY, DEPUTY SHERIFF INSPECTOR, AND THEN THEY CAN GO TO THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE AND GET A LICENSE PLATE IMPLEMENTED, PREPARED. 911 IN OUR RADIO ROOM, GIVING CITIZENS THE ABILITY TO TEXT AND SHARE VIDEO DIRECTLY BY LINKS INTO CELL PHONES TO THE 911 CALL, ZERO COST TO OUR AGENCY, BUT IT HAS AIDED SMALL CITY CLAY CITIES IN THE SERVICE OF EMERGENCY PROTECTIVE ORDERS, JCSO TAX REVENUE CONTINUES TO SHOW AN INCREASE AS THEY HAVE COVERED AS THEY HAVE THE LAST FOUR YEARS, DUE TO HIGHER PROPERTY ASSESSMENT VALUES, INCREASED HOME SALES AND VARIOUS TAX JURISDICTIONS THAT HAVE ALSO RAISED THEIR RATES. SINCE FEES AND COMMISSION REVENUES AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE RECEIVED ARE SUBJECT TO THE 7525 SPLIT, METRO GOVERNMENT IN US, BOTH GAINED. WE'RE DEEPLY INVOLVED IN COMMUNITY RELATIONS AND OUTREAC.

OUTREACH. BISHOP DENNIS LYON IS AN ACTIVE PART OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE FAMILY AS CHAPLAIN, COMMUNITY OUTREACH LIAISON. HIS JOB DESCRIPTION INCLUDES SUPPORT OF OUR DEPUTIES, SUPPORT STAFF AND THEIR FAMILIES IN AREAS SUCH AS STRESS MANAGEMENT. BUT ALSO TO ASSIST WITH VICTIMS OF CRIMES, DISASTERS, ACCIDENTS AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, HE SERVES AS A LIAISON WITH OUR CLERGY AND BETWEEN OUR OFFICE AND THE COMMUNITY. THIS INCLUDES ATTENDING COMMUNITY EVENTS AS OUR AGENCY REPRESENTATIVE. HE IS CHALLENGED TO ENHANCE AND BUILD UPON THE COMMUNITY RELATIONSHIPS WITH LOUISVILLE FAITH LEADERS AND HOUSES OF FAITH THAT WE EXPERIENCE NOW. HE PUTS A STRONG EFFORT IN THE AREAS OF RECRUITING AND RETENTION OF MINORITIES. WITH OUR AGENCY, WE CONTINUE TO PLACE STRONG EMPHASIS AND SUPPORT IN THE AREA OF TRAINING, BOTH FOR DEPUTIES, COMMANDING OFFICERS AND CIVILIANS. OUR TRAINING INCLUDES FIREARMS IN SERVICE, ORIENTATION AND THERE IS STRONG REPETITIVE EMPHASIS ON DE-ESCALATION, DE-ESCALATION, USE OF FORCE, WEAPON RETENTION, FIRST AID INCLUDING STOP THE BLEEDING AND THE DUTY TO INTERVENE. I RESERVE DEPUTY UNIT IS ANOTHER BRIGHT STAR IN OUR OFFICE. IT GIVES US THE CAPABILITY OF PROVIDING SUPPORT, SECURITY ESCORTS AND OTHER MISCELLANEOUS TASKS TO HELP WITH EVENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY. THEY ALSO STAFF OUR RIVER UNIT AND BIKE UNIT AND THEY HELP WITH OUR HONOR GUARD.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE 63 RESERVE DEPUTIES AND ARE PREPARING TO START A NEW CLASS IN JANUARY OF 12 OR MORE. WE WERE ABLE WE HAD 216 EVENTS THAT WE STAFFED THIS PAST THIS YEAR, AND HARD TO BELIEVE, BUT A TOTAL MAN HOURS OF OVER 12,000. WE WERE ABLE TO HELP TEN DIFFERENT COUNCIL MEMBERS WITH EVENTS. WE SERVED 67 CHARITY EVENTS. WE PARTNERED WITH 30 OTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCIES TO PROVIDE SECURITY, INCLUDING THE SOUTHWEST FESTIVA, DERBY, MIDDLETOWN, LINDEN, SAINT MATTHEW'S, INDEPENDENCE, HEALTH FESTIVAL, AND THE OZARKS RANCH CIRCUIT. I HAVE INCLUDED A COPY OF THE DETAILS OF THE RESERVE COVERAGE THIS YEAR IN THERE. IN THAT LARGE BROWN ENVELOPE WE PREPARED FOR YOU IN CLOSING, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME IN SUPPORT OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

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WE TRY VERY HARD TO BE GOOD PARTNERS WITH METRO GOVERNMENT, ITS OFFICIALS, METRO COUNCIL AND OTHER AGENCIES, ESPECIALLY METRO POLICE. I SPECIFICALLY RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO APPROVE OUR PROPOSED 2025 BUDGET AS SUBMITTED. STAY SAFE, STAY HEALTHY. THANK YOU SHERIFF. AND THIS IS MY LAST ONE. SO I APPRECIATE ALL THE YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO THIS. I APPRECIATE YOU AS A PARTNER, AND I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOU AS A PARTNER WITH YOU'VE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING US STAFF OUR RIVERVIEW INDEPENDENCE FESTIVAL OVER THE YEARS, AND I APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU DO FOR US. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANYONE? MR. CHAIR, I HAVE A COMMENT. COUNCILWOMAN PARISH. RIGHT. THANK YOU. SHERIFF, I JUST I REALLY AM IMPRESSED BY YOUR DETAILS OF YOUR REPORT. THIS IS SO IMPORTANT. AS WE ARE IN CHARGE OF THE PURSE, AND IT SHOWS MONEY WELL SPENT. AND I DO BELIEVE THAT ALL OF YOUR SHERIFFS SHOULD BE PAID WAGES THAT ARE COMMENSURATE WITH WHAT LMPD IS GETTING. WE SEE YOU IN THE COMMUNITY. I WE DIDN'T NEED YOU FOR SECURITY IN DISTRICT THREE FOR OUR EVENTS, BUT THERE WAS A MAJOR HILTON THAT SHOWED UP TO OUR LANDLORD AND RENTERS TOWN HALL, AND HE WAS AMAZING TO BE ABLE TO BREAK DOWN. WHAT HAPPENS THAT BY THE TIME AN EVICTION REACHES YOUR DEPARTMENT AND ALSO GAVE SOME VERY HELPFUL ADVICE, WHICH WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO REPORT OUT AND SHARE IN OUR DISTRICT, WE HAVE ABOUT HALF HOMEOWNERS AND HALF RENTERS. AND SO WHEN PEOPLE SEE THE SHERIFF, THEY DON'T ALWAYS UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENS BEFORE IT GOT THERE. AND SO HE WAS VERY HELPFUL. SO I'VE JUST SEEN THE WORK IN ALL OF THE COMMUNITY. MY ONLY QUESTION IS ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY AS FAR AS WILL WE BE ABLE TO DO MORE THINGS ONLINE, OR IS THERE A REASON WHY IT'S HARDER TO PAY, LIKE HOME TAXES? ONLINE CONSTITUENTS, INCLUDING MYSELF, ARE WERE ASKING ME HOW THEY COULD DO THAT, AND I AND I DIDN'T KNOW THAT AS A NEW COUNCIL PERSON, I DON'T KNOW ANY DETAILS AROUND THAT. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, EXCELLENT JOB AND PLEASE LET ME KNOW HOW DISTRICT THREE OR ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES CAN BE HELPFUL. THANK YOU MA'AM, VERY MUCH. YOU CAN PAY THE TAXES ON THEM. WE DO HAVE. YEAH, WE HAVE A WEBSITE AND YOU I, I BETTER KEEP MY MOUTH SHUT. ALL MY FRIENDS JUMP ON ME WHEN THE TAX BILLS COME OUT. AND I TELL THEM, JUST CONSIDER IT A VALENTINE EARLY. THAT DON'T GO OVER VERY WELL. BUT THERE IS ON OUR WEBSITE A WAY OF PAYING ONLINE AND I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? SEEING COUNCILMAN ARTHUR, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR WORK LAST YEAR AND PROBABLY YEARS BEFORE YOU CAME TO COMMITTEE, AND WE TALKED ABOUT EVICTION ASSISTANCE THAT YOU ALL SHARE AND HAVE PARTNERS WITH DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS. ARE THOSE PARTNERSHIPS STILL INTACT WITH THE COALITION FOR THE HOMELESS AND THE KENTUCKY HOUSING CORPORATION? YEAH, I PRETTY COMFORTABLE THAT THAT'S WHAT ARNOLD AND THE METRO COUNCIL LADY WAS TALKING TO WHEN SHE MENTIONED STEVE HILTON. HE'S THE MAJOR IN CHARGE OF THE CRIMINAL UNIT. ONE OF THEIR TASKS IS EVICTIONS, AND IT'S JUST LIKE ANYTHING ELSE, THERE'S WAYS TO TALK TO PEOPLE. THERE'S WAYS TO EXPLAIN THINGS. THERE'S WAYS IF THEY'RE ALTERNATIVES TO LET THEM KNOW THAT YOU CAN DO THIS OR DO THAT OR SOMETHING ELSE. AND I TAKE GREAT PRIDE IN THE FACT THAT WE GET VERY, VERY FEW COMPLAINTS ABOUT ANY OF OUR FOLKS BEING DISCOURTEOUS. AND OR NOT HELPING. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE THERE FOR. COUNCILWOMAN FOWLER YES, THANK YOU, SHERIFF, FOR BEING HERE AND EXPLAINING RIGHT HERE. HERE, CENTER STAGE LEFT.

HOW YOU DOING? GOOD TO SEE YOU. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO YOUR GROUP AND THE DEPUTIES THAT COME OUT FOR THE SOUTHWEST FESTIVAL, BECAUSE WE COULDN'T DO THAT WITHOUT YOU GUYS AND GALS AND IT'S BEEN WONDERFUL OVER THE YEARS. THE PARTNERSHIP AND THE HELP THAT YOU PROVIDED. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. YEAH. WE'LL SEE ANYONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE. THIS IS A RESOLUTION CALL FOR ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. EXCUSE ME. COUNT FOR A VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE EYES HAVE IT. ITEM PASSES. WE'LL GO TO

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CONSENT. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT IF YOU NEED US. AND WE WILL COME AND HELP. THANK YOU. IF WE CAN MOVE TO THE TOP, WE HAVE.

[1. O-278-24 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 84, SERIES 2022, ORDINANCE NO. 080, SERIES 2023, AND ORDINANCE NO. 101, SERIES 2024, RELATING TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2022-2023, FISCAL YEAR 2023-2024, AND FISCAL YEAR 2024-2025 CAPITAL BUDGETS, RESPECTIVELY, AND ORDINANCE NO. 134, SERIES 2022, BY TRANSFERRING $709,850 BETWEEN FARNSLEY-MOREMAN PROJECTS AND CHANGING D14 CAPITAL PROJECT TITLES. Action Required By: May 21, 2025 Sponsors: Cindi Fowler (D-14) ]

ITEM ONE IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 84, SERIES 2022, ORDINANCE NUMBER 80, SERIES 23, AN ORDINANCE NUMBER 101. SERIES 2024 RELATING TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2023, 20 2022, 23, FISCAL YEAR 2324, AND FISCAL YEAR 2425. CAPITAL BUDGETS, RESPECTIVELY. AND ORDINANCE NUMBER 134, SERIES 2022 BY TRANSFERRING $709,850 BETWEEN FARNSLEY-MOREMEN PROJECTS AND CHANGING THE DISTRICT 14 CAPITAL PROJECT TITLES IN OUR MOTION. SECOND.

PROPER MOTION AND SECOND, COUNCILWOMAN FOWLER YES, SO THIS IS JUST TRANSFERRING SOME MONEY FROM WATERFRONT AND TO THE CAPITAL PROJECT AT FARNSLEY-MOREMEN. THERE'S ALSO SOME LANGUAGE THAT CLARIFIES USES FOR FUNDS IN PARKS. JUST REALLY CLEAN UP TO GET IT WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE. I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT. SURE. QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? I DON'T SEE ANYONE IN THE QUEUE. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE CALLING FOR ROLL CALL VOTE. PLEASE OPEN THE VOTING. THIS IS MONEY FROM COUNCILWOMAN PARISH, RIGHT? YES. COUNCILMAN PIAGENTINI. I THOUGHT I VOTED ONLINE, BUT YES, I APOLOGIZE. YES. OKAY. COUNCILMAN HUDSON. YES. COUNCILWOMAN MCCRANEY. YES.

OKAY. THANK YOU. MR. CHAIR, YOU HAVE NINE YES VOTES. THANK YOU. ITEM PASSES WILL GO TO CONSENT.

[2. O-282-24 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 100, SERIES 2024, RELATING TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2024-2025 OPERATING BUDGET, AND ORDINANCE 105, SERIES 2023, BY APPROPRIATING $1,024,200 AND REALLOCATING $649,888 OF OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUNDS FOR VARIOUS PURPOSES THROUGH LOUISVILLE METRO PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELLNESS. Action Required By: May 21, 2025 Sponsors: Jecorey Arthur (I-4) ]

ITEM TWO IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING NUMBER 100 SERIES 2024 RELATING TO FISCAL YEAR 2425.

OPERATING BUDGET AND ORDINANCE 105, SERIES 2023 BY APPROPRIATING $1,024,200 IN REALLOCATING $649,888 OF OPIATE OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUNDS FOR VARIOUS PURPOSES THROUGH LOUISVILLE METRO PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELLNESS, SECOND MOTION AND SECOND IS BEFORE US, AND I ASSUME SINCE YOU GUYS STEPPED UP, YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK TO THIS. SO IF YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF, PEOPLE MIGHT NOT KNOW YOU AS MUCH AS THEY KNOW SHERIFF AUBREY. THAT IS TRUE. YES. HI.

CONNIE MENDEL, LOUISVILLE METRO PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELLNESS CHIEF, HEALTH STRATEGIST AND DOCTOR, SINGLE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. THANK YOU. THE FLOOR IS YOURS. IF YOU CAN JUST TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THIS. CERTAINLY. THANK YOU. SO THERE'S TWO PARTS TO THIS. ONE IS WE'RE REQUESTING TO REALLOCATE FUNDS THAT WERE SET UP OVER A YEAR AGO IN THE FIRST TRANCHE OF SPENDING OPIOID SETTLEMENT DOLLARS, THERE WAS ALMOST $650,000 SET ASIDE TO CREATE A WEST LOUISVILLE HARM REDUCTION HUB. THE PARTNER THAT ORIGINALLY THE FUNDS WERE APPROPRIATED TO WERE UNABLE TO DO THAT. SO AFTER A LOT OF WORK AND RESEARCH, WE'VE DETERMINED THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT INTERNALLY. SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS WITHIN WEST LOUISVILLE, WHERE THERE'S THE LEAST AMOUNT OF SERVICES RIGHT NOW IN HARM REDUCTION, OPENING A HUB, AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE HIV, HEPATITIS, SYPHILIS, AND OTHER TESTING AND REFERRALS RELATED TO THAT. IT WOULD INCLUDE A SYRINGE EXCHANGE PROGRAM, NARCAN DISTRIBUTION, SAFER SEX SUPPLIES, WOUND CARE, REFERRALS TO TREATMENT AND OTHER SERVICES. ALWAYS MENTAL HEALTH AND PHYSICAL HEALTH. FENTANYL XYLAZINE TEST STRIPS, EDUCATION AND EVEN IMMUNIZATIONS. SO AGAIN, YOU ALL THANKFULLY HAD ALREADY APPROVED THAT FUNDING TO BE SPENT IN THAT MANNER. WE'RE JUST CHANGING WHO IS GOING TO DO THAT. SO WE WOULD TAKE THAT ON INTERNALLY. SO THE NEXT PART OF THIS IS APPROPRIATING ADDITIONAL FUNDS. SO IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT PIECE SORRY. YEAH. PRESIDENT WINKLER OH. OH I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN PIACENTINI. I'LL WAIT TILL THE END OF THE PRESENTATION TO ASK QUESTIONS AND MAKE STATEMENTS. DID YOU HAVE ONE ON THIS? SURE.

WHERE IS IT GOING, OR DO YOU KNOW YET? OR IS IT GOING TO THE LOCATION? YEAH, YEAH. WE HAVE

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NOT IDENTIFIED THE LOCATION. WE WERE WAITING TO HAVE THE MONEY, BUT ALSO WANTED TO POINT OUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAPPY THAT OPIOID DEATHS HAVE REDUCED IN THE STATE. BUT UNFORTUNATELY THEY HAVE RISEN FOR OUR BLACK RESIDENTS SPECIFICALLY. SO WHILE STATEWIDE HISPANIC AND NON-HISPANIC WHITES ARE DECREASING, OVERDOSE, OUR BLACK POPULATION IS INCREASED OVERDOSE DEATHS. AND IT IS WEST LOUISVILLE THAT HAS THE LEAST AMOUNT OF SERVICES. SO WE DO PROVIDE SOME ON A MOBILE BASIS, OR WE SET UP OUTSIDE OF, FOR INSTANCE, FAMILY HEALTH CENTERS IN PORTLAND AND OTHER AREAS. BUT THIS WOULD BE A FULL TIME OPERATION. PRETTY GOOD. OKAY.

AND THEN YOUR SECOND POINT. SURE. THE SECOND POINT IS THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY REQUESTING ADDITIONAL FUNDS. SO JUST OVER A MILLION DOLLARS. SO IT WOULD BE ABOUT 877,000 TO EXPAND THE SERVICES AT THAT WEST LOUISVILLE HUB, NOT JUST TO BE A HARM REDUCTION, BUT ALSO OFFER MEDICATED TREATMENT FOR THOSE WHO SUFFER FROM SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER, USING SPECIFICALLY METHADONE AND BUPRENORPHINE AND INDIVIDUAL COUNSELING WITH CERTIFIED DRUG AND ALCOHOL COUNSELORS, PEER SUPPORT GROUP COUNSELING, AND, IMPORTANTLY, REENTRY SUPPORT. SO WE'RE CURRENTLY OPERATING WITH METRO CORRECTIONS. WE HAVE OUR TEAM, AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THEIR HEALTH CARE PROVIDER, AND WE'RE LEADING THE METHADONE AND OTHER TREATMENT, PROVIDING THOSE SERVICES. SO PROVIDING REENTRY. SO AS THOSE LEAVE CORRECTIONS ABLE TO CONTINUE ON WITH WHICHEVER TREATMENT PROGRAM THAT THEY'VE CHOSEN. WE WERE ALSO THE FUNDING WOULD HELP US CREATE A MOBILE HARM REDUCTION. AND TREATMENT IN ADDITION TO CONTINUING TO SUPPLY NARCAN AND VARIOUS KIOSKS THAT WE HAVE AND CONTINUE TO SUPPORT CORRECTIONS AND WE ALSO WORK WITH VOA PARTICIPANTS. AND SO THAT'S PART OF THAT FUNDING. AND THEN THE OTHER 100 AND APPROXIMATELY 48,000 IS TO HELP FUND OUR OVERSEEING OF THE ALL OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING ON. SO WE HAVE THE 23 PLUS PROJECTS THAT WERE APPROVED IN TRANCHE ONE AND TWO. THANK YOU FOR APPROVING THOSE. SO THAT 148,000 HELPS US TO PAY THE EXTERNAL EVALUATOR, AN INTERNAL PROJECT MANAGER, ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS. THERE'S SOME LICENSING FOR VARIOUS SOFTWARE FOR TRACKING.

AND, YOU KNOW, GENERAL ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS. VERY GOOD. COUNCILMAN ARTHUR, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU ALL FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DO. I'M PROUD TO SPONSOR THIS. THOUSANDS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS HAVE RECEIVED OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUNDS AND BEFORE COMMITTEE YOU ALL TALKED ABOUT HOW YOU ARE LEADING IN DISTRIBUTION OF THOSE FUNDS. TALK TO US. JUST YOU KNOW, WHAT MAKES YOUR WORK ADMINISTRATIVELY. SO SUCCESSFUL. YEAH. SO WE WERE ABLE BOTH DOCTOR SEGAL AND I WERE PART OF A LOUISVILLE PUBLIC MEDIA INTERVIEW SERIES, AND RECENTLY, AND THEY DID COMPLIMENT METRO GOVERNMENT AND THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT ON THE TRANSPARENCY.

SO IF YOU GO TO OUR WEBSITE, THERE'S ALL THE PROJECTS THAT WERE PRESENTED TO US AND THE OPIOID ADVISORY COMMITTEE REVIEWED, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY ALWAYS LOOKING FOR EVIDENCE BASED PRACTICES AND THOSE THAT FIT WITHIN THE REGULATIONS OF USING OPIOID SETTLEMENT DOLLARS.

SO THOSE ARE OUR GUIDING FACTORS. THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE JOHNS HOPKINS RECOMMENDATIONS, FOLLOWING THE RULES AND BEING EVIDENCE BASED. OTHER THAN THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH PARTNERS. WE'RE RIGHT NOW ALIGNING WITH THE STATE OPIOID COMMISSION. AND SO UPCOMING PROJECTS, THEY'RE PUTTING A LOT OF EMPHASIS AGAIN ON PREVENTION. UNFORTUNATELY, WE DID NOT GET A LOT OF WE DIDN'T GET AS MUCH PREVENTION PROJECTS PRESENTED TO US IN OUR CALL FOR APPLICATIONS. SOME. BUT WE REALLY WANT TO SEE PREVENTION FOR LIFE SPAN OF PEOPLE. YOUNG ADOLESCENTS AND, YOU KNOW, THROUGH YOUNG ADULTS AND EVEN OLDER ADULTS. SO AND, AND HOW WE CAN BE CREATIVE AND INNOVATIVE WITH PREVENTION. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN PIAGENTINI THANK YOU, MISTER CHAIR, CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY. YES. SORRY. CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY. IN CHAMBERS. YES, YES.

OKAY. GREAT. CONNIE. THANK YOU. SO, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WE'RE EXPECTED TO GET ULTIMATELY ABOUT $57 MILLION IN OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUNDS. IS THAT CORRECT? I THAT SOUNDS RIGHT. OVER 18 YEARS.

OKAY. AND UP TILL TODAY, HOW MUCH HAVE WE RECEIVED AND ALLOCATED AS OF LATE AUGUST, WE HAD RECEIVED ABOUT 16.8 MILLION, 11.6 HAD HAS BEEN APPROPRIATED. AND IS THIS TO LET'S CALL IT 2

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MILLION? I'M ROUNDING A LITTLE BIT. 1.8 MILLION. DOES THAT INCLUDED IN YOUR 11 MILLION OR IS THAT PART OF THE LET'S CALL IT 6 MILLION THAT HADN'T BEEN APPROPRIATED YET? YEAH. SO IN THE 11.6 HAS BEEN APPROPRIATED, 650,000 OF THIS HAD THAT'S WHERE THE FUNDING THAT WE'RE ADDING TO REALLOCATE FOR US TO DO INTERNALLY THAT OFFER THE SAME SERVICES THAT WEST LOUISVILLE HUB. SO IT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL 1,024,000 AND CHANGE TO EXPAND THOSE SERVICES TO BE TREATMENT IN IN ADDITION TO HARM REDUCTION. AND THEN ALSO HELPING WITH THE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS OF OVERSEEING ALL OF THESE AND EVALUATING ALL OF THE PROJECTS. SO, SO TWO, TWO, ONE VERY TINY MINOR OBJECTION. BUT I DO WANT TO BRING IT UP. AND THEN AND THEN I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHERE I'M BORDERING ON VOTING NO. AND WHY. AND YOU CAN TELL ME HOW WRONG I AM. AND I'M GLAD TO BE CORRECTED HERE. BUT FIRST OF ALL, IN THE DOCUMENT I'M LOOKING AT IN ONE OF THE DESCRIPTIONS OF THE KENTUCKY HARM REDUCTION COALITION, THIS IS THE $591,751 IT MENTIONS. QUOTE, INCREASE HARM REDUCTION EFFORTS WITH BLACK, LATINX AND NON-U.S. BORN COMMUNITIES. ET CETERA. ET CETERA. I FRANKLY OBJECT TO THE TERM LATINX. PEW RESEARCH AS OF JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO, HAD A POLL OF PEOPLE, US ADULTS, WHO TRACE THEIR ROOTS TO SPAIN AND LATIN AMERICA. 81% PREFER THE TERM HISPANIC OR LATINO, AND ONLY 3% PREFER THE TERM LATINX. I THINK IT'S AN INAPPROPRIATE TERM TO USE, AND FRANKLY, WE SHOULD NOT BE USING IT IN PUBLIC DOCUMENTS LIKE THIS TO BE RESPECTFUL TO PEOPLE OF THAT DESCENT WHO PREFER NOT TO USE THOSE TERMS. SO THAT'S THE MINOR, TINY, STUPID THING. THE MORE SERIOUS THING HERE AND WHERE I'M TEETERING ON NOT APPROVING THIS IS I'VE HAD AN ONGOING SORT OF ISSUE, ALBEIT SOME OF IT IS MORE MAYBE A YEAR OR TWO OLD. AND THAT IS WHAT THE STRATEGY THAT PUBLIC HEALTH HAS USED RELATED TO ATTACKING THIS ISSUE. AND I SEE IT PERPETUATED HERE. AS FAR AS I CAN TELL. I SEE A LOT OF MONEY HERE IN THIS 1.8 MILLION. AND I VENTURE TO SAY PROBABLY IN THE 11 MILLION THAT'S GOING TOWARD, QUOTE, HARM REDUCTION EFFORTS. SO, YES, THAT KEEPS PEOPLE WHO ARE OVERDOSING ALIVE, WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT THING. I DON'T DISAGREE THAT THAT IS AN IMPORTANT THING, BUT IT DOESN'T ADDRESS THE ACTUAL UNDERLYING PROBLEM THAT PEOPLE ARE USING ILLEGAL DRUGS AND OVERDOSING. NOW, I WILL SAY, TO BE FAIR, I DO SEE IN 1 OR 2 AREAS HERE BURIED INSIDE 1 OR 2 OF THE PROGRAMS. THE MENTION OF, AND I WANT TO USE THE APPROPRIATE TERMS HERE. ONE SAYS. CONNECTIONS TO SUBSTANCE USE TREATMENT PROGRAMS. THAT'S PART OF THE 649,000 OF THE UNIVERSITY OF KENTUCKY. TARGET FOUR PROGRAM. SO THERE'S MENTION OF REFERRALS, BUT NOT LIKE AGGRESSIVE EXPANSION OF OR MOVING PEOPLE INTO THESE PROGRAMS. AND WHAT I, WHAT I AM AFRAID OF AND WHAT I FEEL LIKE WE ARE MOVING DOWN THE PATHWAY OF IS WE'RE GOING TO SPEND $57 MILLION, WE ARE GOING TO KEEP MORE PEOPLE ALIVE IN THE SHORT TERM. AND AT THE END OF IT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE STILL THE SAME AMOUNT OF ADDICTED PEOPLE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T PUT THEM INTO ADDICTION PROGRAMS AND EXPAND THE REACH AND CAPACITY OF THOSE PROGRAMS TO GET PEOPLE OFF OF DRUGS. SO CAN YOU EITHER TELL ME THAT I'M CRAZY OR TALK ABOUT HOW YOU KNOW, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE DOLLARS ARE GOING TO HARM REDUCTION VERSUS ACTUALLY MOVING PEOPLE OFF OF ILLEGAL DRUG USE? SURE. SO ONE, I WILL TAKE ON YOUR FIRST POINT ON LATINX POINT TAKEN PERCEIVED THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ABSOLUTELY ADAPT TO.

SECOND POINT HARM REDUCTION. SO YOUR THE POINT YOU MAKE IS A NOT UNCOMMON. IT'S SOMETHING WE'VE HEARD BEFORE. I WILL SAY THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP PEOPLE ALIVE BEFORE WE'RE ABLE TO CONNECT THEM TO TREATMENT. AND THESE ARE STATEMENTS THAT I'M SURE YOU'VE HEARD BEFORE. WE MEET PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE. WE HAVE WE SERVE A MULTITUDE OF CLIENTS IN OUR SYRINGE EXCHANGE AND HARM REDUCTION SERVICES. MANY OF THEM WE ARE ABLE TO REFER. I AM NOT A SOCIAL WORKER BY EDUCATION OR TRAINING OR MENTAL HEALTH SPECIALIST. BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT FOR MOST PEOPLE IT TAKES SEVERAL INDUCTIONS INTO RECOVERY PROGRAMS, TREATMENT AND RECOVERY PROGRAMS FOR THEM TO BE SUCCESSFUL. AND WE'RE GOING TO BE THERE EVERY STEP OF THE WAY, EVERY TIME THEY FALL BACK, WE'RE GOING TO HELP THEM PICK THEMSELVES UP AND DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO MEET THEM WHERE

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THEY ARE. SO HARM REDUCTION IS THERE TO SAVE LIVES. IT'S ALSO THERE FOR DISEASE PREVENTION, AS WE DO SPEND A LOT OF TIME WITH HEPATITIS, HIV AND OTHER DISEASE AND WITH WOUND CARE. SO SOME OF THE FOLKS WE SEE WHERE THIS IS THE ONLY THING CLOSE TO MEDICAL CARE THAT THEY RECEIVE. SO WE DO A LOT OF REFERRALS, INCLUDING TO THIS. WE HAVE OUR QUICK RESPONSE TEAM. SO AS WE'RE NOTIFIED AS PEOPLE WHO SURVIVE AN OVERDOSE, OUR FOLKS GO KNOCKING ON THEIR DOOR WITHIN THE NEXT 24 TO 72 HOURS AND WORK ARDUOUSLY TO CONNECT THEM TO SERVICES. OUR TEAM. JUST AN AMAZING TEAM.

MAJORITY OF THEM HAVE LIVED EXPERIENCES, WHETHER THAT'S ADDICTION TO, YOU KNOW, ILLEGAL DRUGS, ALCOHOL, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE THEY'VE LIVED IT. THEY'VE WALKED THE WALK. SO THEY'RE THERE WITHIN DAYS PROVIDING THEM WHATEVER THEY NEED. IT MAY BE NARCAN TO GIVE THEM AND THEIR FAMILY TO REVIVE THEM ONE MORE TIME BEFORE THEY'RE READY FOR REENTRY. BUT THERE IS A LOT OF FUNDING HERE IN THOSE 21 PROJECTS FOR RECOVERY PROGRAMS. SO THAT IS THERE. AND AGAIN, OUR NEXT BIG PRIORITY IS PREVENTION. SO AND I'LL LET DOCTOR OKAY. SO SURE.

SO DOCTOR GO AHEAD. SORRY I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT. I WILL SAY YOU CAN PARSE THIS PROBLEM IN THREE SORT OF TRANCHES RIGHT. SO IF WE CAN STOP PREVENTION THEN TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE WHEN THEY HAVE THIS DISEASE. AND THEN HOW CAN YOU GET THEM OFF THIS. RIGHT. SO WHEN WE PUT OUT THE RFP, WE REALIZED VERY QUICKLY THERE'S REALLY NOT A MUSCLE IN THE COMMUNITY BUILT OUT ALREADY FOR THE PREVENTION SERVICES. THERE IS VERY SCATTERED BUT NOT A COHESIVE PREVENTION PROGRAM.

SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THE STATE AND FOCUSING ON AND WORKING INTERNALLY. AND WE HAVE A VERY GOOD TEAM THAT'S CARVING OUT HOW CAN WE USE THE DOLLARS THAT ARE COMING OUR WAY TO EDUCATE AND DO PREVENTION SERVICES, BUILD THAT MUSCLE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE FUTURE? AS YOU SAID, THE $57 MILLION WILL GO AWAY QUICKLY. AND THEN IF WE LEFT WHERE WE ARE, THEN WE DIDN'T ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING. SO OUR PUSH SHOULD BE TO PREVENTION IN THE MEANTIME, WHILE WE'RE BUILDING THAT MUSCLE INFRASTRUCTURE, WE ARE TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE THIS DISEASE. NOW, ONE CAN ARGUE IF YOU DON'T GET THEM OFF THIS, YOU'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING. I WOULD ARGUE AGAINST THAT. IF WE ARE ABLE TO KEEP THESE PEOPLE ALIVE OR PREVENT THEM FROM GOING TO HOSPITALS, EMERGENCY ROOMS ON AN ONGOING BASIS, WE ARE SAVING DOLLARS FOR THE CITY FOR THE COMMUNITY, FOR THE HOSPITAL SYSTEMS. FURTHERMORE, WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE WHO ENROLL IN SYRINGE EXCHANGE PROGRAMS ARE MUCH MORE HIGHLY, MUCH, HIGHLY, MUCH LIKELY TO ENROLL INTO A METHADONE PROGRAM OR BUPRENORPHINE PROGRAMS. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE OFFERING AT LMDC. AND WITH THIS NEW WEST HUB, WHAT WE ARE HOPING THAT WE WILL HAVE A WARM HANDOUT WHERE WE GET PEOPLE BACK INTO THE SOCIETY AND BE WORKING INDIVIDUAL, PRODUCTIVE INDIVIDUALS. YOU'RE CORRECT. YOU KNOW, BUILDING OUT A RECOVERY PROGRAM TO GET PEOPLE OFF THIS IS NOT AS EASY AS IT SOUNDS. SO.

SO THANK YOU BOTH, CONNIE AND DOCTOR FOR THE EXPLANATIONS. I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I'M GOING TO DO. I'LL VOTE PRESENT TODAY BECAUSE I WANT TO BRING UP THIS ISSUE IN FRONT OF THE FULL COUNCIL AND MAKE PEOPLE AWARE OF MY CONCERNS, BECAUSE I'LL REITERATE WHAT I HEARD AND WHERE WHAT WHERE I'M CONCERNED, EVEN WITH YOUR RESPONSE. AND THEN WHAT I'LL ASK IS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE NUMBERS, BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME, WHAT CONNIE MENTIONED EARLY ON IS THAT THE STATE IS IMPROVING, BUT JEFFERSON COUNTY IS GETTING WORSE, PARTICULARLY IN BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITIES. RIGHT? SO WE'VE SPENT 11 MILLION. WE'RE GETTING WORSE. AND WE THERE'S AND WE'RE ADMITTING WHICH WHICH IS WHAT I JUST HEARD. WE'RE ADMITTING THAT WE DON'T HAVE A PREVENTION INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE. SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE DOING REQUESTS FOR FUNDING PROGRAMS OR PROPOSALS. AND WE'RE SAYING THAT, OKAY, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE PREVENTION PROGRAMS, WHAT WE'RE GETTING IS A LOT OF HARM REDUCTION PROGRAMS BECAUSE THEY EXIST. RIGHT. THERE'S MORE OF THEM CURRENTLY. ET CETERA. OR OTHER PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE FUNDING. INSTEAD OF MAYBE

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SAYING, HEY, LOOK, WE NEED TO HOLD BACK A BIG CHUNK OF MONEY AND PUT IT INTO PREVENTION AND DO THAT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO BUILD THAT INFRASTRUCTURE SO WE DON'T GET TO THE END OF THIS MONEY AND SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE KICKED THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD. BUT, YOU KNOW, SO WHAT I'D ASK IS NUMBERS ON HOW MANY PEOPLE TO DATE SINCE WE'VE STARTED DOING THIS ARE GETTING INTO PREVENTION VERSUS HARM REDUCTION. I REALLY WE REALLY NEED TO UNDERSTAND AND PROVE THE, THE ABILITY OF THIS, THIS IDEA TO MOVE PEOPLE INTO PREVENTION. RIGHT. SO THAT'S MY ASK. AGAIN, MY CONCERN IS THAT WHAT I JUST HEARD IS WE STILL HAVEN'T YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ADMITTING THAT WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THAT. WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE SHOULD USE A BIG CHUNK OF THIS MONEY TO HELP BUILD THAT INFRASTRUCTURE INSTEAD OF JUST INSTEAD OF ONLY. AND I'VE NEVER ADVOCATED AGAINST HARM REDUCTION PROGRAMS, TO BE CLEAR. IT'S JUST MAKING SURE THAT PROPORTIONATELY, WE'RE DOING BOTH AT THE SAME TIME AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE'RE THERE YET.

RIGHT. SO I'LL VOTE PRESENT TO BRING UP THIS CONCEPT WITH COUNCIL IN A MUCH BROADER AREA.

SO WE'RE ALL THINKING ABOUT THIS MOVING FORWARD, AND I'D BE GLAD TO WORK WITH YOU OFFLINE ON ON HOW WE CAN PROVE THIS AND REALLY FOCUS ON THE PREVENTION SIDE. THANK YOU. AND IF I COULD MAKE A POINT SO OF THE 11.6 MILLION THAT'S APPROPRIATED, IT HAS NOT ALL BEEN SPENT OF THIS LAST TRANCHE. WE ARE NOW WE HAVE WITH 21 DIFFERENT PARTNERS. WE HAVE FULLY EXECUTED AGREEMENT AND WE HAVE PAID OUT 400,000 OF THE OVER 5 MILLION. SO THEY'RE BUILDING THEIR CAPACITY AND WE'RE EXPECTING A LOT OF INVOICES. DECEMBER. WE WILL HAVE A QUARTERLY REPORT. AND I CAN PROVIDE YOU. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF HOW MANY FOLKS THAT WE HAVE REFERRED TO TREATMENT AND RECOVERY PROGRAMS. AND THAT WOULD BE JUST FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT SERVICES. WELL, AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, NOT JUST REFERRED BECAUSE WE CAN REFER A LOT OF PEOPLE, SUCCESS IS DICTATED BY PEOPLE THAT STICK WITH THE PROGRAM OR GRADUATE FROM THOSE PROGRAMS. RIGHT. SO THAT'S WE'LL NEED TO DO SOME TYPE OF FOLLOWUP. UNDERSTOOD. AND SINCE HE ASKED YOU TO CALL HIM CRAZY, CAN YOU OBLIGE HIM BECAUSE RESPECTFULLY, NO, NO. VERY WELL. COUNCILWOMAN PURVIS, THE NUMBER OF DEATHS HAVE GONE DOWN. COUNCIL MEMBER JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF DEATHS HAVE DECREASED IN JEFFERSON COUNTY AND ACROSS KENTUCKY. BUT, OKAY, THE TOTAL DEATHS ARE DOWN.

THE DEATHS HAVE INCREASED ONLY IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY. SO TOTAL DEATHS ARE DOWN. SO WHATEVER WE'RE DOING IS WORKING, EVEN THOUGH IT TAKES A WHILE TO SHOW THAT. BUT DISPROPORTIONATELY IT'S AFFECTING THE BLACK COMMUNITY. OKAY. CAN I GET 100%? ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE ABSOLUTE NUMBER OF BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE WHO HAVE DIED HAS INCREASED? OR ARE YOU SAYING THEY MAKE UP A GREATER PERCENTAGE BECAUSE OF THE REDUCTION IN TOTAL ABSOLUTE NUMBER? TOTAL DEATHS ARE DOWN.

ABSOLUTE BLACK DEATHS ARE HIGHE. ARE UP OKAY. WELL THAT'S OKAY. YES. OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN PURVIS, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. I'M CURIOUS IN YOUR PRESENTATION, AND YOU'VE IDENTIFIED THAT THE INCREASE IN OVERDOSE DEATHS ARE BLACK PEOPL, AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING A HUB IN THE WEST END. SO I WANTED TO KNOW, SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COLOR, WHERE IS A HUB FOR WHITE PEOPLE IN ANOTHER PART OF TOWN? I JUST WANTED TO KNOW. WE PROVIDE HARM REDUCTION SERVICES AT OUR 400 EAST GRAY STREET OFFICE. SO THAT IS RIGHT THERE BETWEEN PRESTON AND JACKSON, A BLOCK NORTH OF BROADWAY. THERE WE DO INTERMITTENT AT THE PORTLAND FAMILY HEALTH CENTERS. AS FAR AS NOT EVERY DAY A WEEK. WE ALSO PROVIDE THAT IN THE OLD LAKE DREAMLAND FIREHOUSE ON CANE RUN ROAD. WE'RE SET UP THERE. THOSE ISLANDS. YEAH. LMDC. AND WE WORK WITH VOA. SO I'M I'M I'M GOING TO SAY THIS. SURE. SIMILAR TO WHAT MY COLLEAGUE SAID, I KIND OF RESENT THE FACT THAT IT HAS TO BE POINTED OUT. BLACK PEOPLE, PEOPLE NEED HELP. DRUGS DO NOT ATTACK ANYONE. ACCORDING TO THEIR COLOR. CORRECT? CORRECT. SO I HOPE THAT YOU ALL CAN REPHRASE YOUR PRESENTATION TO TALK ABOUT THE PROBLEMS GEOGRAPHICALLY AND NOT BY COLOR.

OKAY, NOW I ALSO WANT TO ASK YOU, WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO PUT THIS WEST END HUB? WE HAVE NOT

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IDENTIFIED A LOCATION YET. WE'RE TRYING TO SECURE THE FUNDING. SO ARE YOU GOING TO BE WORKING WITH THE 100 PLUS TRANSITIONAL HOUSES THAT ALREADY EXIST IN DISTRICT FIVE? THAT SUPPOSEDLY HAVE A HEALING AND CURE PROGRAM GOING, HEALING, AND CURED? YES. WE HAVE OVER 100 TRANSITIONAL HOUSES IN DISTRICT FIVE ALONE AND THEY WILL TELL YOU WHETHER THEY'RE LEGAL OR ILLEGAL. THEY WILL TELL YOU THAT THEIR PRIORITIES ARE TO HEAL PEOPLE THAT ARE OPIOID ADDICTED. ARE YOU GOING TO BE WORKING WITH THESE TRANSITIONAL HOUSES THAT, BY THE WAY, THEY'RE NOT SERVICING PEOPLE IN THAT COMMUNITY. THEY'RE BRINGING PEOPLE FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES TO THE WEST END COMMUNITY FOR HEALING. SO I JUST WANT TO KNOW, WILL YOU BE WORKING WITH THESE TRANSITIONAL HOUSES THAT ARE ALREADY ESTABLISHED IN THE WEST END? OKAY. I'M NOT INCLUDED THAT IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN. I KNOW WE CURRENTLY WORK WITH VOLUNTEERS OF AMERICA. THEIR HOUSING, PARTICULARLY THOSE WITH PREGNANT WOMEN WHO ARE ADDICTED. SO THAT IS ONE OF OUR PRIORITIES ALONG WITH THOSE PEOPLE COMING OUT OF CORRECTIONS FOR REENTRY SERVICE, I WOULD HAVE TO DO FURTHER RESEARCH ON ALL OF THE TRANSITIONAL HOUSES THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO. SO I WOULD SUGGEST MAYBE YOU SPEAK WITH SOMEONE IN ZONING TO IDENTIFY THE HOUSES THAT HAVE CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS THAT ARE PROVIDING THESE SO-CALLED SERVICES. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN PARISH. RIGHT. YES. THANK YOU. I JUST BOARDED MY FLIGHT AND WAS WORRIED I WOULDN'T GET THE COMMENT. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THIS MONEY IS NOT PHILANTHROPY. IT'S NOT COMING FROM THE CITY. WE ARE MANAGERS OF IT BECAUSE IT'S BLOOD MONEY THAT'S COME FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE DIED FROM THE OPIOID CRISIS AND SO MUCH MORE. AND HARM REDUCTION INCLUDES SAVING AND IMPROVING LIVES. AND DRUGS ARE IN ALL OF OUR DISTRICTS. PEOPLE WHO ARE ADDICTED TO ALCOHOL AND SUBSTANCES ARE IN EVERY ONE OF OUR DISTRICTS. THIS IS THIS WAS ALREADY ALLOTTED. THE 600,000 WAS ALREADY ALLOTTED TO PUT A HUB IN THE WEST END. IT IS NOT THEIR JOB TO MANAGE ALL OF THE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING AND ALL THAT. THAT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE THAT DOES NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. THE CITY WE HAVE THROUGH OUR BUDGET COMMITTEE AND THE IN THE COUNCIL HAVE ALREADY LET SOME OF THIS MONEY BE SUPPLANTED. SO THIS 11 MILLION THAT COUNCILMAN PIAGENTINI MENTIONED ALSO INCLUDES FUNDING SOME OF THE CITY SEATS THAT ARE RELATED TO THAT, LIKE THE FOR THE FOR THE DEPARTMENT. SO WE'RE USING THIS MONEY IN EVERY WAY THAT WE'RE LEGALLY ALLOWED TO USE IT. AND WE ARE THE STEWARDS TO MAKE SURE IT GETS TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE TARGETED. THE OPIOID CRISIS WAS PAID OUT BY THE PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES, BY DOCTORS, BY BY WALGREENS AND CVS. ALL THESE OTHER PLACES WHO WHO TARGETED OUR PEOPLE AND CAUSED THIS. SO WE ARE IN CHARGE OF MAKING SURE IT GOES THROUGH HEALING. IT GETS TO THE GROUND AND NOTHING WORKS ON PEOPLE THAT'S DEAD. THIS MONEY IS GOING TO BE ALLOTTED OVER 18 YEARS AND THE QUESTION HERE COULD BE SOLVED IN A HARM REDUCTION TRAINING, WHICH I'M HAPPY TO DO, AND I WORK IN HARM REDUCTION.

WE'RE NOT EVEN APPLYING FOR THE MONEY BECAUSE WE WANT THE MONEY TO GET CLOSEST TO THE GROUND. SO I NEED MY COLLEAGUES TO STAY FOCUSED ON WHAT'S AT HAND. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO, ALTHOUGH OUR NUMBERS ACROSS THE STATE, THERE ARE MORE WHITE PEOPLE IN OUR STATE AND THERE IS MORE WHITE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN WHO HAVE DIED FROM THIS CRISIS. BUT THERE IS NUMBERS THAT HAVE CHANGED, WHETHER YOU CALL IT HISPANIC, LATINX, WHATEVER LATIN, THESE PEOPLE ARE IMPACTED AND WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SERVICES TO MEET THEM.

FURTHERMORE, THERE'S A LOT OF SERVICES AROUND OUR COUNTY AND AROUND OUR STATE THAT ARE MEETING THE NEEDS OF MANY WHITE PEOPLE WHO ARE CAUGHT UP IN SUBSTANCE USE ISSUES. THIS IS FOR THIS IS BLOOD MONEY THAT HAS BEEN FOR COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE BEEN TARGETED. AND WE AND WE ARE WORKING ACROSS THE BOARD TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE. CAN WE STAY FOCUSED ON THAT? MONEY WAS ALREADY ALLOTTED. WE ALREADY APPROVED IT. NOW THEY'RE GOING TO HANDLE IT. AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL MONIES THEY NEED TO EXPAND THOSE SERVICES. THE WEST END AIN'T JUST BLACK PEOPLE, BUT THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF OUR PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE AND IMPACTED BY IT. I JUST I AND I'M HAPPY TO EDUCATE MORE ABOUT HARM REDUCTION. THEIR PROGRAM WAS HARM REDUCTION. HARM REDUCTION IS PREVENTION. IT'S TREATMENT. IT'S ALSO MAKING SURE WE FOLLOW UP WITH PEOPLE SO PEOPLE SURVIVE AND THRIVE. IT'S NOT JUST SAYING IT'S OKAY TO USE DRUGS. THAT'S NOT HARM REDUCTION. PEOPLE WERE NOT CHECKING WITH Y'ALL BEFORE THEY DECIDE TO USE DRUGS. YOU DON'T CHECK WITH SOMEBODY BEFORE YOU DECIDE TO HAVE A DRINK IN A BAR. YOU HAVE TO SEE IT THE SAME BECAUSE IT'S REALLY A DIFFERENCE IN SUBSTANCE. THESE COMPANIES TARGETED OUR PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY IN KENTUCKY. THIS IS A WAY TO RIGHT SOME WRONGS. IT'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY, PERIOD. AND IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THESE OPIOID FUNDS,

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WE WOULD BE PAYING FOR IT IN MANY WAYS. OUT OF OUR OWN BUDGET LIKE WE'VE BEEN DOING BEFORE.

THIS DEBT SETTLEMENT CAME THROUGH. SO LET'S STAY FOCUSED ON WHAT THE PEOPLE NEED. IT'S OUR JOBS TO BE GOOD STEWARDS. AND THIS IS A GREAT WAY AND A GREAT EXAMPLE TO SPEND THAT MONEY AND SOME OTHER CITIES AND COUNTIES, THE POLICE ARE USING IT TO PAINT THEIR CARS FOR JUNETEENTH. THAT'S NOT HARM REDUCTION. AND WE HAVE POLICE AGENCIES THAT ARE STEPPING UP THE MONEY NOW. IF THEY ARE DOING HARM REDUCTION, THAT'S GREAT, BUT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE CARE AND HELP OUR LOUISVILLE PUBLIC HEALTH DEPARTMENT MEET THIS NEED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN HAWKINS. COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS, I'M SORRY. NO, YOU'RE FINE.

THANKS, CHAIR. WELL, I'M GOING TO SAY THIS. I DEFINITELY WANT TO WASHES OFF YOU SAID THAT YOU NEEDED TO DO SOME RESEARCH, RIGHT? RESPECTFULLY, I WOULD SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T CARE WHERE THE MONEY COMES FROM IF IT COMES IN FRONT OF US, YOU KNOW, I WOULD RECOMMEND TO DO THE RESEARCH FIRST, YOU KNOW, BEFORE YOU COME AND ASK FOR US TO APPROVE THAT MONEY. I'M A FIRM BELIEVER THAT OVERDOSE OVERDOSES HAVE BEEN IN OUR COLOR WHITE, BLACK, HISPANIC, BLACK, BROWN, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, COLOR HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS ISSUE. TO ME, I THINK WAY TOO OFTEN I'VE SEEN SO MANY PEOPLE COME IN FRONT OF METRO COUNCIL AND SAY, YOU KNOW, SAY BLACK AND BROWN AND THINK THAT THAT'S GOING TO GET THEM MORE MONEY. LET'S HIT THE ISSUES. YOU KNOW, THIS IS HAPPENING EVERYWHERE, NOT JUST IN THE BLACK AND BROWN CULTURE. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, HOW ARE YOU GUYS MARKETING? WHAT IS YOUR MARKETING STRATEGY AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, ONCE THEY COME OUT OF THE TREATMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT OF COURSE THAT THEY DON'T RELAPSE AND THINGS OF THAT. HAVE YOU TRIED TO, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU YOU ALL SAID, AND I'M JUST USING YOUR WORDS BLACK AND BROWN, BUT ARE YOU GUYS ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, GOING AFTER YOURSELF, SEEING IF IT'S YOU KNOW, WHAT WORKS, YOU KNOW, MEETING, YOU KNOW, GOING TO THESE TRANSITIONAL HOMES BECAUSE IT CAN'T BE THAT THE CITY IS SAYING THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE A TRANSITIONAL HOME. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE WANT YOU ALL TO PARTNER WITH THEM. RIGHT? SO I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO, TO, TO SEE WHERE YOU ALL ARE MARKETING AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE YOU GUYS DOING TO, TO HAVE THAT END PIECE BECAUSE YOU KNOW, YEAH. WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO DIE. RIGHT. AND YOU ALL ARE USING THE TOOLS THAT YOU ARE USING. BUT WHAT IS THE END RESULT? YOU KNOW, SO OFTEN THAT WE GIVE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AWAY AND WE STILL KEEP HAVING THE SAME ISSUES. THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH SOLUTIONS AND RESULTS. SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T I DEFINITELY DON'T MIND REMOVING ANY BARRIERS OR HELPING ANYBODY THAT'S BLACK, WHITE, BROWN, HISPANIC. THIS ISSUE IS A HUGE ISSUE. BUT FOR ME IT IS THE WHAT ARE YOU GUYS DOING OR PLAN TO DO? WHAT IS YOUR PLAN? YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN ACTION PLAN AND MAKE THAT HAPPEN. THOSE ARE A LOT. SO ONE, WE YOU KNOW, WE CURRENTLY HAVE HARM REDUCTION SET UP IN VARIOUS LOCATIONS, THE BUSIEST ONE BEING THE FIRST FLOOR AT OUR OFFICE. WE DO A LOT OF WORK WITH SOCIAL MEDIA. SOME OF THE DATING APPS WE'VE DONE, WE'VE DONE ADS FOR VARIOUS THINGS AS FAR AS GRINDR AND OTHERS. AND I ABSOLUTELY FOR PREVENTION AND THINGS LIKE IMMUNIZATION FOR MPOX AND SAFE SEX AND OVERDOSE PREVENTION. SO WE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WORK IN AND ANYONE WILLING TO TALK TO US, WE WILL VISIT AND AS FAR AS THE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, THAT IS NOT AN ACTIVE STRATEGY THAT WE'RE EMPLOYING AS FAR AS VISITING THE 100 TRANSITIONAL HOUSES CURRENTLY, WE DO A LOT OF WORK WITH CORRECTIONS. SO AS PEOPLE COME INTO CORRECTIONS, PARTICULARLY IF THEY'RE ALREADY IN A PROGRAM, BUT WE OFFER THEM METHADONE AND BUPRENORPHINE AND THAT AND WITH THAT AND IT'S REGULATED. YOU HAVE TO INCLUDE DRUG COUNSELING, PEER COUNSELING SO THAT IS VERY PRESCRIBED. RIGHT. WELL, I WILL SAY THIS. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE OVERDOSING IN THE JAIL. THAT IS CORRECT. WHETHER THEY COMING OUT OR NOT. THAT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE THEY OVERDOSED WHILE THEY'RE IN THERE. RIGHT? SO MAYBE Y'ALL NEED TO GO IN THERE TOO. AND WE ARE IN CORRECTIONS AND WE HAVE WE'VE WORKED WITH THEM TO CREATE NARCAN AVAILABLE IN EVERY DORM WITHIN CORRECTIONS. SO PEOPLE THAT ARE INCARCERATED ARE SAVING EACH OTHER'S LIVES. SO ARE YOU GUYS AS FAR AS HAVE YOU REACHED OUT TO ANY OF THE 26 COUNCIL MEMBERS AND PUT THIS IN THERE TO SEE WHERE THIS HUB SHOULD BE? HAVE YOU GUYS REACHED OUT, SENT US ANY MARKETING MARKETING MATERIALS TO PUT IN OUR NEWSLETTERS RIGHT NOW? WE WERE

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FOCUSING ON ALLOCATING THE FUNDS. SO WE KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE AS FAR AS CREATING THE HUB AND SETTING THAT UP. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET THE FUNDS ALLOCATED. THAT'S OUR MAIN GOAL, BUT WE DO HAVE A PLAN AND HAPPY TO WORK WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. SO, SO, SO YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE A PLAN ON WHERE IT'S GOING TO GO, WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE, AND YOU'RE JUST ASKING FOR THESE FUNDS, RIGHT? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE PEOPLE COME IN FRONT OF US ALL THE TIME, AND I ALREADY KNOW WHERE THEIR LOCATION IS GOING TO BE, WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO, WHAT THEIR BUDGET LOOKS LIKE AND HOW MUCH MONEY THEY NEED. OKAY, WE HAVE A BUDGET. I'M HAPPY TO SHARE THAT THAT INCLUDES NOT ONLY ARE WE LOOKING AT A CONCRETE, BRICK AND MORTAR LOCATION, BUT ALSO MOBILE SERVICES THAT WE WANT TO ADD.

WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THE ZIP CODES WITH THE MOST HIGHEST OVERDOSES. AND THOSE WITH THE MOST INCREASING. SO THAT IS AND I DON'T MEAN ANY DISRESPECT, BUT IT IS TRULY OUR BLACK RESIDENTS THAT ARE EXPERIENCING THE INCREASING OVERDOSE RATES. SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE WORKING ZIP CODES WHERE THOSE OCCUR IN YOUR DATA FROM AS FAR AS DEATHS THAT FROM THE CORONER'S OFFICE AND FROM KENTUCKY PUBLIC HEALTH. CAN YOU SEND THAT TO ME? CERTAINLY. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHERE YOU'RE GETTING THAT DATA FROM. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN PIACENTINI. YES. JUST JUST TO FOLLOW UP IN AGREEMENT WITH COUNCILWOMAN SHAMIKA PARISH. RIGHT. THE I'M VERY AWARE OF WHERE THIS CAME FROM. I HAD IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBERS WHO HAVE STRUGGLED WITH THIS PRECISE ISSUE. AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANYBODY THAT HASN'T BEEN AFFECTED, WHICH IS SOMETHING LIKE 50% OF KENTUCKIANS HAVE SOMEBODY THAT THEY KNOW OR RELATED TO THAT HAVE BEEN IMPACTED BY THIS. READ THE BOOK DREAMLAND, AND IT LAYS OUT BY SAM QUINONES. IT LAYS OUT IN SCARY DETAIL THE AREA FROM SOUTHERN OHIO ESSENTIALLY TO EASTERN KENTUCKY, AND HOW OUR, OUR THIS AREA WAS INVADED AND THESE PEOPLE WERE PREYED UPON AND THEN BY IN MANY CASES THESE DRUG COMPANIES. RIGHT. LITERALLY PRESCRIBING MORE DRUGS, OPIOID DRUGS INTO CERTAIN AREAS THAN THERE WERE MAN, WOMAN AND CHILD IN THOSE AREAS, KNOWING DARN WELL WHAT THEY WERE BEING USED FOR. SO UNDERSTOOD. WHAT THIS HAS COME FROM. MY ISSUE IS JUST, I THINK THE STEWARDSHIP THAT COUNCILWOMAN PARISH, RIGHT, SAID IS MY CONCERN BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN US AND I HAVE SEEN OTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCIES WITH GOOD INTENTION. IT'S NOT BAD INTENTION. IT'S GOOD INTENTION.

TRY TO DO THINGS AND THEN AT THE END OF IT FIND OUT IT DIDN'T HAVE THE IMPACT. AND THEY'VE JUST MOVED SHIFTED THE ISSUE. THAT'S WHAT I'M THE MOST AFRAID OF. IT IS NOT THAT PUBLIC HEALTH ISN'T WORKING HARD. THESE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AREN'T WORKING HARD. IT IS A MATTER OF IN THE REAR VIEW MIRROR OF $56 MILLION LATER, HAVE WE GOTTEN MORE PEOPLE OFF OF DRUGS SO THAT WE HAVE A MORE SUSTAINABLE PUBLIC HEALTH ENVIRONMENT THAN WHEN WE STARTED? THAT IS THE ULTIMATE GOAL, NOT JUST SAVING LIVES, BUT SUSTAINABLY SAVING LIVES BY CREATING A CULTURE THAT REJECTS DRUGS AND GETS THEM OFF THE STREETS AND HAS PEOPLE REJECTING THAT LIFESTYLE AND PROVIDING THE SERVICES NECESSARY IN ORDER TO GET AWAY FROM THAT. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M FOCUSED ON. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S COMMENTS. VERY GOOD. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE CALL FOR ROLL CALL VOTE. PLEASE OPEN THE VOTING. COUNCILMAN PIAGENTINI. AGAIN. I'M ON. I THOUGHT I WAS ON LINE PRESENT. YEAH. APOLOGIZ. YES. FOR COUNCILWOMAN. THE PHONE KEEPS HANGING UP. SORRY. THANK YOU. YES. THANK YOU MA'AM. OH. I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN HUDSON. YES. OKAY. CHAIR, YOU HAVE EIGHT YES VOTES AND ONE PRESENT. VERY GOOD ITEM. PASSES WILL GO TO OLD BUSINESS. MR. CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU SO MUCH TO RECONSIDER. NUMBER ONE. ITEM NUMBER ONE. THANK YOU. ANY OBJECTION? SECOND. OH, YOU'RE GOOD WITHOUT OBJECTION, WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER ONE AGAIN. OH, OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR OF RECONSIDERATION, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NOW LET'S HAVE IT. NOW WE'RE RECONSIDERING ONE.

AND WE? IT'S REALLY PRETTY. IT'S A SIMPLE THING. SO THE DESCRIPTION THAT COUNCILWOMAN FOWLER HAD WAS JUST IN YOUR ATTACHMENTS AS A. AS AN AMENDMENT BY SUBSTITUTION. BUT

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WE DIDN'T PUT THAT BEFORE US. SO WE JUST NEED I JUST NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE SO MOVED SECOND. HOLD ON TO PULL IT BACK ON THE FLOOR FIRST. WE JUST DID. I THOUGHT THAT YOU APPROVED A RECONSIDERATION. NOW YOU'VE GOT TO PUT IT ON THE FLOOR. AND THEN WE'VE GOT. AND THEN YOU'VE GOT A MOTION TO PUT IT ON THE FLOOR SECOND. ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. NOW WE'RE GOOD. ALL RIGHT. NOW I NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT BY SUBSTITUTION MOTION. MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND BY SUBSTITUTION. SECOND, SECOND. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? CONCERNS. SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. NOW WE HAVE THE AMENDED ORDINANCE BEFORE US WHICH CALLS FOR ROLL CALL VOTE.

PLEASE OPEN THE VOTING. COUNCILMAN PIAGENTINI, YOU'RE IN THERE. YEAH. SORRY. COUNCILMAN HUDSON. YES? WHERE ARE WE AT? YES, FOR PARISH. RIGHT. THE PHONE KEEPS HANGING UP. SORRY.

JUST. COUNCILWOMAN KING. YES. I'M SORRY. YOU HAVE NINE YES VOTES. CHAIR. THANK YOU. ITEM PASSES AND WE'LL GO TO OLD BUSINESS BECAUSE OF THE AMENDMENT ITEM THREE IS AN

[3. O-283-24 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 101, SERIES 2024, AND ORDINANCE NO. 100, SERIES 2024, RELATING TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2024-2025 CAPITAL BUDGET AND THE FISCAL YEAR 2024-2025 OPERATING BUDGET, RESPECTIVELY, BY TRANSFERRING $9,351.90 FROM THE DISTRICT 14 CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE FUND TO THE DISTRICT 14 NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUND. Action Required By: May 21, 2025 Sponsors: Cindi Fowler (D-14) ]

ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 101, SERIES 2024, AN ORDINANCE 100 SERIES OF 2024 RELATING TO FISCAL YEAR 2425, CAPITAL BUDGET AND THE FISCAL YEAR 2425 OPERATING BUDGET, RESPECTIVELY, BY TRANSFERRING $9,351.90 FROM DISTRICT 14 CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE FUND TO DISTRICT 14 NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUND. MOTION, SECOND MOTION AND SECOND COUNCILWOMAN FOWLER. YES, AND THIS IS TO MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE, I NEED TO PUT A FINAL NEWSLETTER OUT TO MY CONSTITUENTS. I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT. GOOD QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, ANYONE? ANY ANYONE IN THE QUEUE? THIS IS AN ORDINANCE CALL FOR ROLL CALL VOTE. PLEASE OPEN THE VOTING. OPEN. YES.

THANK YOU. YES. RIGHT. THANK YO. YES, PLEASE. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN HUDSON. YES. CHAIR, YOU HAVE NINE YES VOTES. THANK YOU. THE ITEM PASSES AND WE'LL GO TO CONSENT ITEM. FOUR IS AN

[4. O-290-24 AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING YEAR-END OPERATING BUDGET TRANSFERS BETWEEN VARIOUS AGENCIES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023-2024 AND TO PROVIDE VARIOUS TRANSFERS AS DETAILED HEREIN. Action Required By: May 21, 2025 Sponsors: Rick Blackwell (D-12) ]

ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING YEAR END OPERATING BUDGET TRANSFERS BETWEEN VARIOUS AGENCIES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2324 AND TO PROVIDE VARIOUS TRANSFERS AS DETAILED HERE IN THE MOTION. MOTION SECOND SECOND. I THINK. NOT SURE WHICH ONE OF YOU IS GOING TO START, BUT IF YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND THEN THE FLOOR IS YOURS. SURE. GOOD EVENING, ANGELA DUNN WITH THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET. I AM JOINED TODAY OF OMB BY AARON JACKSON, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF BUDGET, AND ALSO RICHARD CHAMPION, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE IS HERE, AS WELL AS A FEW OTHER MEMBERS OF THE DEPARTMENT. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE JUST A QUICK MOMENT TO THANK BOTH AARON AND RICHARD FOR THEIR DIRECT ASSISTANCE IN COMPLETING THE YEAR END CLOSEOUT. I ALSO WANT TO THANK OTHER OMB DIRECTORS JOEL NEVILLE, CHRISTINA BRITZ, AMANDA BAKER, AND KEN HILDEBRAND FOR OVERSEEING THE VARIOUS OTHER OMB OPERATIONS AND PROJECTS. THEIR LEADERSHIP IS CRITICAL TO THE OVERALL SUCCESS OF THE AGENCY. THE ORDINANCE BEFORE YOU IDENTIFIES THE GENERAL FUND SURPLUS AVAILABLE FOR APPROPRIATION FROM THE FISCAL YEAR 2024, YEAR END CLOSEOUT. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT METRO IS CURRENTLY UNDER AUDIT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024. WHILE MANAGEMENT IS CONFIDENT THAT THE AMOUNTS PRESENTED ARE ACCURATE, THERE IS ALWAYS THE POTENTIAL THAT ADJUSTMENTS COULD BE IDENTIFIED ONCE THE AUDIT IS FINALIZED, THE AUDIT SHOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR PUBLICATION AS REQUIRED BY THE END OF DECEMBER.

YESTERDAY, AARON JACKSON SENT THE FOLLOWING REPORTS TO THIS COMMITTEE IN SUPPORT OF THE YEAR END ORDINANCE. PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THESE MAY REQUIRE VISION REVISION SHOULD FURTHER AUDIT ADJUSTMENTS BE REQUIRED. THOSE REPORTS WERE THE GENERAL FUND REVENUE REPORTS, EXPENDITURES BY DEPARTMENTS PSC REPORTS AND SETTLED LITIGATION AND OTHER CLAIMS. OVER 50,000 AT THE TOP OF THIS SLIDE, YOU WILL SEE THAT WE START OUR YEAR END BUDGET RECONCILIATION WITH THE GENERAL FUND REVENUE SURPLUS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024. REVENUES. GENERAL FUND REVENUES EXCEEDED THE BUDGET BY 52.3 MILLION. SOME HIGHLIGHTS FROM SEVERAL OF OUR GENERAL FUND REVENUE SOURCES INCLUDE THE TOTAL OCCUPATIONAL LICENSE TAX PAYMENTS INCREASED BY APPROXIMATELY 8.9% OVER LAST

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YEAR AND EXCEEDED THE BUDGET BY APPROXIMATELY 19 MILLION. THE WATER COMPANY DIVIDEND CAME IN 1.1 MILLION, HIGHER THAN BUDGET AT 27 MILLION. INVESTMENT INCOME TOTALED 16.6 MILLION, MORE THAN BUDGET AT 22.6. TOTAL PROPERTY TAX AND CHARGES FOR SERVICES COMBINED INCREASED APPROXIMATELY 5 MILLION OVER BUDGET, AT 206 AND 23 MILLION, RESPECTIVELY. REVENUES HAVE PERFORMED POSITIVE OVER BUDGET FOR THE LAST TWO FISCAL YEARS, AND THE FIRST QUARTER OF FY 25 ALSO INDICATES A POSITIVE TREND. OMB WILL FURTHER UPDATE THIS COMMITTEE ON THE FY 25 GENERAL FUND REVENUE ESTIMATE DURING THE THIRD QUARTER. NEXT, ON YOUR SLIDE, WE ACCOUNT FOR THE EXPENDITURE ACTIVITY. THE AGENCY'S IN AGGREGATE WERE 6.4 MILLION UNDER EXPENDED. MOST AGENCIES ENDED THE YEAR EITHER ON BUDGET OR IN SURPLUS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A FEW AGENCIES THAT EXPERIENCED INCREASED OPERATIONAL COSTS DUE TO UNSCHEDULED OVERTIME. FUEL, VEHICLE EXPENSES AND INFLATIONARY COST IMPACTING OUR CONTRACTS AND PROJECTS ACROSS THE ENTERPRISE. OF THE TOTAL SURPLUS GENERATED THROUGH ADDITIONAL REVENUES AND EXPENDITURE SAVINGS, THERE IS APPROXIMATELY 34.1 MILLION IN CARRYFORWARDS PREVIOUSLY BUDGETED TO FUND FY 25. YOU'LL SEE THESE ON THE ON THE SLIDE. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE 2023 FY OFFICERS TERM PAYMENT OF 10.3 MILLION WAS RECEIVED IN FY 24 AND RECORDED AS REVENUE FOR FY 24. HOWEVER, THOSE FUNDS WERE APPROPRIATED TO VARIOUS CAPITAL PROJECTS THROUGH THE FY 23 YEAR END ORDINANCE AND WERE NOT AVAILABLE AS BUDGET FOR FY 24 OPERATIONS. THE JUUL SETTLEMENT FUNDS WERE RECEIVED AND BOOKED INTO THE GENERAL FUND. REVENUE IN ERROR. THE SETTLEMENT FUNDS ARE FOR SPECIFIC USES AND NEED TO BE RECORDED IN SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS, AND WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT IN FY 25. THEY ARE NOT AVAILABLE FOR GENERAL FUND PURPOSES. AND THEN THE FINAL I'M SORRY. FINALLY, 22.9 MILLION OF THE TOTAL SURPLUS HAS ALREADY BEEN DESIGNATED FOR USE IN THE FY 25 BUDGET. THE FINAL PIECE OF THIS RECONCILIATION CONSISTS OF GASB ACCOUNTING ADJUSTMENTS SUCH AS CHANGES IN OUR INVENTORIES, LONG TERM LOAN RECEIVABLES, AND ECONOMIC INCENTIVES. IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THIS YEAR'S SURPLUS WAS LARGELY DRIVEN BY UNBUDGETED INVESTMENT INCOME, DUE TO STRATEGIC INVESTMENTS AND PRUDENT MANAGEMENT OF DEPARTMENT BUDGET, PERSONNEL COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH ONGOING NEGOTIATIONS FOR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS, AND WAGES COMMISERATE WITH MARKET RATE COMPETITION WILL NEED TO BE CONSIDERED PERMANENT. INCREASES TO OPERATING OPERATIONAL COSTS AS WE LOOK TO THE FUTURE. SUCCESSFUL REVENUE COLLECTION AND MEASURED EXPENDITURE OF RESOURCES ARE CRITICAL TO ENSURE CONTINUED FINANCIAL STABILITY.

THIS SLIDE IS JUST A SUMMARY OF THE VARIOUS SECTIONS OF THE ORDINANCE AND WHERE THAT IDENTIFY THE MAYOR'S RECOMMENDED USES. OF THE 16.5 MILLION SURPLUS, WHICH THEN ENDS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE REMAINING AVAILABLE FOR METRO COUNCIL ACTION. I CAN WALK THROUGH EACH SECTION IF YOU'D LIKE, OR I CAN STOP THERE FOR QUESTIONS. I DON'T SEE ANYONE IN THE QUEUE. COUNCILMEMBER MCCARTNEY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU IF THIS IS WHERE YOU WANT TO ASK YOUR QUESTION, OR ARE YOU WANT TO CONTINUE? IT COULD BE. YEAH, GO AHEAD THEN. I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT IF WE COULD RECONSIDER ANY PORTION OF THE FUNDING, I WANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE LOUISVILLE METRO ANIMAL SERVICES IN THAT WE'VE BEEN GETTING A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FUNDING TO THE HUMANE SOCIETY VERSUS THE LOUISVILLE METRO ANIMAL SERVICES AND THE NEEDS THAT THEY HAVE. I JUST WANT TO OPEN THAT UP FOR SOME TYPE OF DIALOG. OKAY. WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. I WOULD POINT OUT THAT THE HUMANE SOCIETY WAS ONE OF THOSE ITEMS THAT THAT DIDN'T WORK. EVERYTHING CAME OVER FROM THE MAYOR, BUT IT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD AGREED TO AS PART OF OUR BUDGET PROCESS EARLIER. AND SO IT WOULD, IN MY MIND, BE A VERY SLIPPERY SLOPE IF WE OPEN UP THOSE THINGS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY AGREED TO AS A COUNCIL WHEN WE DID THE BUDGET PROCESS, UNLESS THERE'S ANOTHER PLACE THAT YOU CAN TAKE IT FROM, WHICH COULD BE I ABSOLUTELY AGREE, I DO. I AGREE WITH YOU AND THAT WOULD BE A SLIPPERY SLOPE TO GO BACK AND RENEGE ON THAT. BUT IF THERE ARE OTHER AREAS THAT WE COULD CONSIDER FINANCIALLY FOR THE LOUISVILLE METRO ANIMAL SERVICES, I WOULD BE WILLING TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. GOTCHA. OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN FOWLER YES, AND I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS THE RIGHT PLACE, BUT THE ALLOCATIONS FOR EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT FOR $53,431, I THINK 53 FOR 23.

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YEAH. CLOSE. CLOSE ENOUGH. WE IN PARKS TODAY. WE HAD THE COUNTY EXTENSION OFFICE GIVE THEIR QUARTERLY REPORT. AND THERE ARE SEVERAL OF US HERE THAT ARE PLANNING ON GIVING SOME OF THAT 53 AND CHANGE TO THE COUNTY EXTENSION OFFICE TO MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE. SOME OF THE DIFFERENCE. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS WHERE I NEED TO DO THAT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN THAT UP TO OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS TO MAKE A CHANGE. MAYBE IN THEIR ALLOCATION. AND THERE MAY NOT BE ANYONE THAT WANTS TO DO THAT OTHER THAN COUNCIL PRESIDENT WINKLER WANTS TO DO 5000. OKAY, SO THE SO ON THE SHEET THAT WE WERE HANDED. OKAY. OH OKAY. MY BAD. WE'LL COME BACK. LIKE I SAID THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN ARTHUR IS THIS AT THIS POINT OR DO YOU WANT TO WAIT. IT IS RELATED TO AN AMENDMENT. IT'S NOT AN AMENDMENT FROM THE SHEET OF APPROPRIATIONS THAT OUR COUNCIL RELATED, THOUGH. IT'S FOR WHAT THE MAYOR SENT OVER. SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE NOW OR LATER. OKAY. IT'S RELATED TO THE SIDEWALK NEAR BROADWAY AND 28TH STREET. THERE'S JUST A SLIGHT LANGUAGE CHANGE. IT NEEDS TO BE 28TH STREET. STREETSCAPE AND SAFETY IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. SO IT'S JUST A LANGUAGE THING? YES. NO DOLLAR AMOUNT CHANGES AT ALL.

GOTCHA. OKAY. YEAH, THAT SEEMS LIKE A DO WE NEED THAT MAY BE A TECHNICAL AMENDMENT. THAT SOUNDS LIKE A TECHNICAL AMENDMENT. RIGHT. YEAH. TECHNICAL AMENDMENT WOULD JUST TAKE CARE OF THAT.

ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN, COUNCILMAN OWEN, THANK YOU. CHAIR, I JUST QUICKLY WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE KENTUCKY HUMANE SOCIETY MONEY AND LMAS. AND THERE WAS THERE'S BEEN A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT ABOUT THAT AND THE CONCERN, THE GENERAL CONCERN IS, WHY ARE WE FUNDING AN OUTSIDE AGENCY WHEN LMAS IS STRUGGLING? AND WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, FOCUS OUR MONEY ON OUR OWN AGENCIES AND TRY TO GET THOSE FIXED. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT AND THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME. I THINK PART OF THIS DISCUSSION WAS LMAS IS SO UNDERWATER AT THIS POINT.

AND THERE ARE CLOSE PARTNER WITH KENTUCKY HUMANE SOCIETY AS IT IS AND HUMANE SOCIETY IS RAISING MONEY FOR THIS PROJECT THAT IF WE CAN GET THAT PROJECT BUILT, WILL REDUCE SOME OF THE DEMAND AND SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT LMAS IS HAVING. SO THIN WHILE I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN THAT WE'RE SPENDING MONEY ON AN ORGANIZATION THAT DOES SIMILAR WORK THAT'S OUTSIDE OF METRO GOVERNMENT, I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT WE'RE DOING THAT IN A STRATEGIC WAY. WE'RE DOING THAT IN A WAY TO TRY TO HELP REDUCE SOME OF THE BURDEN ON LMAS IN THE SHORT TERM, SO WE CAN GET OUR HOUSE IN ORDER AT LMAS AND, YOU KNOW, START GETTING THINGS BACK THE WAY THEY SHOULD BE. SO I THINK IT IS STRATEGIC IN THE WAY THAT WE ARE FOCUSED ON THAT. THANK YOU. AND THAT WAS THE CONVERSATION TOO. IF YOU REMEMBER BACK TO THE BUDGET MEETINGS, THAT WAS THAT SAME CONVERSATION WE HELD THEN AND DECIDED THAT THIS WAS A GOOD WAY TO MOVE FORWARD. ANYONE ELSE? I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE. RIGHT. I'LL TURN IT BACK TO YOU. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

UNLESS YOU WANT TO WALK THROUGH THE RECOMMENDED ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE LIST, BUT THEY'RE VISIBLE THERE FOR EVERYONE TO SEE. YEAH, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO DO THAT UNLESS ANYONE FEELS THE NEED TO DO THAT. THAT'S THAT'S WE CAN JUST MOVE THE AMENDMENT AND THEN GO FROM THERE. YEAH.

ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN HOPKINS, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING BEFORE WE DO THE AMENDMENT? NO, I JUST WANTED TO SAY ASK THEM TO SAY SOMETHING TO ANGELA. ALL RIGHT, HOW ABOUT THIS? YEAH, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. YOU GUYS DO A PHENOMENAL JOB, AND I DON'T SEE HOW Y'ALL DO IT. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS DO. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. VERY APPRECIATED. YEAH, I WOULD SECOND THAT FOR SURE. SO NOW WE HAVE WHAT WE DO HAVE IS THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT THAT THAT OUTLINES THE SPENDING THAT THE ADDITIONAL SPENDING PRIORITIES OF THE OF THE COUNCIL. AND SO IT IS LISTED WHICH ATTACHMENT IS IT HERE FOR. YOU HAVE TO REFRESH YOU REFRESH IT FOR YOU FOR THE FACT. IT'S ALSO THE RECOMMENDED FOR YOU. YES. IT IS THE PAPER THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU. AND ALSO THE FOURTH ATTACHMENT IN YOUR. ON YOUR SYSTEM. SO, MR. CHAIR, I'M NOT SEEING A FOURTH ATTACHMENT. DID YOU TRY TO DID YOU REFRESH. OH, MAYBE I SHOULD REFRESH. YEAH. THAT WAS A GOOD WORK. SO. AMENDMENT TWO. AND JUST LIKE THAT, THERE'S FOUR

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ATTACHMENTS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. YOU'RE WELCOME. WHAT DID YOU SAY? IT WAS CALLED AGAIN? AMENDMENT 20290. AMENDMENT OH. GOTCHA. GOTCHA. YES. ALL RIGHT. SO THE YOU CAN LOOK THROUGH THE AMENDMENTS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE TO THE STRIKE OF THE IT'S IN SECTION ONE IS JUST CHANGING THE WORDING, THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE COMMISSION AND IT SIMPLY GOES TO THE DEPARTMENT INSTEAD OF THE FUND NAME. SO IT'S NOT A SUBSTANTIAL DIFFERENCE. IT'S JUST ONE THAT WE NEED TO MAKE A CHANGE THERE. AND YOU SEE STRIKING THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS AUTHORIZING THE USE FOR FUTURE OPERATING CAPITAL NEEDS OF SPECIFICALLY BY THE COUNCIL. WE STRIKE THAT LANGUAGE AND THEN WE ADD THE FOLLOWING ORDINANCE THAT GIVES THE ACTUAL PLACES WHERE WE'RE GOING TO SPEND THOSE THINGS. AND SO YOU HAVE EACH OF THE DISTRICTS AND WHAT'S LISTED, WHAT INFORMATION THAT WE GATHERED FROM EACH OF THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS IN ORDER TO PULL THIS TOGETHER. ARE YOU SEEKING A MOTION TO AMEND? YES. SO THIS ISN'T. YES. I'M SORRY. I STARTED RIGHT INTO IT. YES. WE DO NEED A MOTION TO AMEND. THANK YOU. IN THAT CASE, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND. SECOND MOTION A SECOND. SECOND. IT IS BEFORE US. SO ALL THOSE THINGS I SAID PREVIOUSLY JUST HAPPENED.

NOW INSTEAD. SORRY ABOUT THAT. GET AHEAD OF MYSELF. SO YOU HAVE EACH OF THE ITEMS. I THINK WE HAVE A COUPLE THAT MIGHT NEED TO THAT MIGHT NEED TO BE CHANGED HERE. SO I THI COUNCILMAN ARTHUR, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SAID WITH YOURS. YOU WANT TO DO YOUANT. A YOU STRIKING THE NEIGHBORHOO DEVEPMENFUND PARAND PUTTING THEHO 4 SILK RRS THAT REPAIRS, AND THAT'S WHERE IT SHOULD GO INTO OUR CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE FUND. THE DOLLAR AMOUNT IS 52,710. AND THEN THE REMAINING 713 SHOULD JUST STAY IN THAT CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE FUND, 730. SO YOU'RE SAYING THE SECOND ONE SHOULD BE THE FORCE CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN. SO THE NEIGHBORHOOD DEVEL FU AND MOVE THAT ALL OVER TO THE RIGHT? I, I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT. THE AMENDMENT I HAVE IS ALL CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE. LET ME PULL THIS UP. I HAVE. SO THE AMENDMENT. THE AMENDMENT I'M LOOKING AT SHOWS YOU WITH $795 IN NEIGHBORHOOD GOING TO NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS AND 52 628 GOING TO D FOR SIDEWALK REPAIRS. 5217 THE SIDEWALK. CORRECT. THE REMAINDER SHOULD BE IN CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE. ANY QUESTION ABOUT THAT? AND JUST TO BE CLEAR ON THE NUMBERS, I THINK THERE WAS A MISCOMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE LIST THAT WE SENT. CHAIRMAN, YOUR OFFICE DOES HAVE OUR LIST, RIGHT? THE TOTAL SHOULD BE 52,710. AND THAT'S WHERE I GOT THE REMAINING 713, 713, 730 13. THAT'S WHAT I HAD. SEVEN. DO YOU HAVE YOU HAVE 730, RIGHT. OH, IT'S 13 713. YEAH. I'M SORRY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YEAH. OKAY.

SO THE SIDEWALK REPAIRS WILL BE 52,710. YES. AND JUST THE SECOND ONE WILL SCRATCH NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS AND IT BECOMES CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDS. AND IT'S 713. YES. AND JUST TO

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MAKE SURE, DO I NEED TO SEND THAT LIST TO ANYONE ELSE, OR IS IT OKAY THAT WE'VE ALREADY SUBMITTED IT TO YOUR OFFICE FOR THE SPECIFIC SIDEWALKS? WE'RE CORRECTING IT RIGHT HERE. YEAH.

OKAY. THANK YOU. YES. MAKE THAT IN THE FORM OF AN AMENDMENT. WHY DON'T WE JUST WAIT AND JUST DO THEM ALL? I THINK WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THEM. IF YOU WANT TO. YOU TELL ME. YEAH, I THINK SO.

YOU'RE THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR. YOU TELL HIM. YES. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. LET'S JUST DO THEM AS WE GO. YEP. THAT WORKS. SO WE'LL MAKE SURE YOU DO. YOU LIKE TO DO THAT MOTION SECOND. ALL RIGHT.

CONCERNS SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED A RIGHT. YES. COUNCILWOMAN FOWLER, I GUESS AS I WAS SAYING BEFORE ON THE COUNTY EXTENSION, PRESIDENT WINKLER WANTED TO DO $5,000 FROM HIS ALLOCATION. AND THEN I WANT. WHERE IS HE? WELL, HIS ONLY CIF. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. AND THEN I WANTED TO CHANGE MINE. AND SO NOW HE'S DOING WHAT FOR THAT 5000 FOR A COUNTY EXTENSION AND THE REMAINDER GOING TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE CIP OKAY. AND THEN ON DISTRICT 14 WHERE I HAVE FARNSLEY-MOREMEN AND PROJECT IMPROVEMENT, I WOULD LIKE THAT FOR 44,423 TO GO TO THE COUNTY EXTENSION. SO THAT WOULD MAKE IT 28,423 TOTAL. PLEASE. AND THAT IS, I THINK ANY EXTENSION IS ALREADY A BUDGET BUDGETED RIGHT NOW. WHAT'S THAT? LEAVE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO PITCH IN ON THAT. THAT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. SO THAT LEAVES US.

PRESIDENT WINKLER WAS 48,423. CORRECT? RIGHT. YOU ON THIS AS WELL, COUNCILWOMAN RUBY? YES, I WOULD I ORIGINALLY SAID 5000, BUT I'D LIKE TO CHANGE OURS TO 7500 OUT OF OUR CIP. YOU'RE GOING TO CHANGE IT TO WHAT WAS THAT NUMBER AGAIN? 7500 OUT OF THE CIF. YES.

OKAY. AND SO THAT MAKES YOUR CF 29 896. CORRECT. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE WITH THE EXTENSION? YES, COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS, I WANT TO DO 28,000 FOR CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE, 15,000 FOR OPERATIONAL BUDGET, 8000 TO PARKS. AND HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON. YEAH. WE JUST DON'T MAKE THAT ONE YET. WE'LL JUST DO THE EXTENSION OFFICE FIRST AND THEN WE'LL DO. YEAH. ANYTHING ELSE WITH EXTENSIONS? SEEING NONE, DID WE MOVE THAT MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE THE EXTENSION SERVICE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AND FOR CONVERSATION FOR THAT PIECE YOU HAVE ALL THE NUMBERS.

WE'RE GOOD OKAY. SURE. WE HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND AND YES THANK YOU. SO WHEN WE FIRST STARTED LOOKING AT THE 53,000, COUNCILMAN BLACKWELL AND I HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS. AND THE AGREEMENT WAS THAT WE WOULD ALLOCATE THE MONEY EITHER TO NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS TO CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDS, OR TO CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WERE THAT WERE SELECTED. I'M LOOKING AT THE LIST OF WHAT'S HERE, AND THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS ON THIS LIST THAT ARE NOT THOSE THINGS, INCLUDING THE EXTENSION SERVICE. IT'S IT RAISES SOME THAT RAISES A CONCERN FOR ME. I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE AND PART OF THE REASON IT RAISES A CONCERN IS BECAUSE WHEN WE DO THINGS LIKE THIS OUTSIDE THE NORMAL BUDGET PROCESS AND OUTSIDE THE NORMAL CDF PROCESS, AND WE GIVE

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MONEY TO ORGANIZATIONS THE WAY THAT WE WOULD NORMALLY GIVE ENDS, IT MAKES IT HARDER FOR OMB BECAUSE THERE'S NO THERE'S NO CONTRACT, THERE'S NO GRANT GIVEN. THERE'S WE'RE JUST THROWING MONEY TOWARDS A PROJECT OR TOWARDS AN ORGANIZATION, ACTUALLY. AND SO, YOU KNOW, IN A CONVERSATION WITH OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS, DIRECTORS, THE SUGGESTION WAS THAT WE EITHER ALLOCATE IT TO A PROJECT THAT WE'RE DOING A CAPITAL PROJECT, OR WE ALLOCATE IT TO CIF WHERE WE CAN USE THAT MONEY, MOVE THAT MONEY INTO PROJECTS, OR ELSE PUT IT IN NDF. AND THEN YOU CAN DO A GRANT LATER. THE REASON THAT I MADE THE MOTION TO MOVE THIS AMENDMENT IS EVEN THOUGH THIS DOESN'T, IT ISN'T REALLY WHAT WE ORIGINALLY TALKED ABOUT. AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT ALREADY WITH THE EXTENSION SERVICE. WE DID THAT IN THE BUDGET PROCESS. THEY WOULD NOT NORMALLY HAVE TO COME BACK TO US TO DO AN NDF BECAUSE OF THE AGREEMENT. WE ALREADY HAVE. SO THIS IS IT'S I KNOW, I KNOW, IT'S NOT CAPITAL, BUT IT'S KIND OF ALONG THOSE SAME LINES THAT THIS IS SIMPLY MOVING MONEY INTO AN AGENCY THAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING THE WORK WITH. AND SO I THINK THIS ONE I'M OKAY WITH, IT'S NOT MY FAVORITE THING, BUT I'M OKAY WITH IT. AND SO I'M GOING TO VOTE YES. I'M GONNA ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE YES AS WELL. BUT WHEN IT COMES TIME TO DISCUSSING THE OTHERS, WHERE THE MONEY IS, IS JUST GOING TO AN AGENCY, I'M GOING TO STRONGLY ENCOURAGE THAT. WE MOVE THAT MONEY BACK INTO EITHER INTO ACCOUNTS OR CIF SO THAT WE CAN DO THE WE CAN FOLLOW THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCESS. I KNOW THAT SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES MAY WANT TO GET THIS TAKEN CARE OF BEFORE THE LAST MEETING OF THE YEAR. I UNDERSTAND THAT. AND SO WHAT I'M GOING TO PROPOSE IS THAT WE MOVE THOSE MONIES THAT ARE THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN HERE AS PROJECTS THAT WOULD NORMALLY GO THROUGH, LIKE AN MDF PROCESS. I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE SEND THOSE MONIES INTO THE CIF ACCOUNTS OF THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS. AND THEN BETWEEN NOW AND THURSDAY NIGHT, IF THERE ARE IDENTIFIED CAPITAL PROJECTS, THEY CAN GO AHEAD AND FUND THOSE RIGHT STRAIGHT OUT OF THEIR CIF. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? WHAT I'M SUGGESTING. SO THERE'S AN AMENDMENT BEFORE US JUST TO IT'S BEEN IT'S GOT A MOTION IN A SECOND. I'M GOING TO ASK THAT MY COLLEAGUES WOULD WOULD SUPPORT THAT AMENDMENT. AND THEN THAT MONEY WILL GO TO THE EXTENSION SERVICE. AND THEN I'D LIKE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE REST OF THE PROJECTS THAT WHERE THAT MONEY WOULD NORMALLY GO TO MDF, AND INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH EACH OF THOSE PROJECTS AND TRYING TO DECIDE IF THAT'S A GOOD IDEA OR NOT, JUST RECOGNIZE THAT THAT MONEY REALLY NEEDS TO GO THROUGH A MORE VIGOROUS PROCESS, AND THAT WOULD BE EITHER THROUGH CIF OR PUT IT BACK IN MDF. AND AGAIN I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO PUT IT INTO CIF TO MAKE IT EASIER TO DEAL WITH. SHOULD SOMEBODY WANT TO MAKE A CHANGE IN DECEMBER. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. YES. SO THAT WILL COME. THAT WILL COME NEXT. SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THE COUNTY EXTENSION. BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT THERE BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO YOU WANTED TO EXPLAIN WHY YOU WOULD VOTE FOR THIS ONE AND BE RECOMMENDING THAT YOU BE DIFFERENT. YEAH. THERE'S A OKAY. SO WE HAVE THE ITEMS THAT WE JUST MADE THAT WERE EXTENSION AND WE HAVE ALL OUR NUMBERS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE AYE AYE. OPPOSED AYES HAVE IT. NOW WE MOVE INTO. WHERE DO WE COUNCILMAN. WHERE DO YOU WANT TO. WHERE ARE YOU STARTING WITH THIS. WHERE ARE THE ONES THAT YOU SEE THAT. OH, YEAH. YEAH. I'M SORRY COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS, LET'S GO TO YOU FIRST. I'M SORRY, I FORGOT. OH, NO, THAT'S OKAY. I'M JUST GOING TO GO AHEAD AND. SO, COUNCILMAN KRAMER, JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR YOU, AND MAYBE IT'S JUST. I'M. I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE WHEN IT COMES TO THIS BUDGET. AND WHAT WOULD BE THE MOST EASIEST FOR OMB? SO JUST, YOU KNOW, STOP ME IF I NEED TO SAY NO. JUST WAIT. SO I SAID THE 28,000 FOR THE CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE. RIGHT. AND THEN THE 15,000 FOR OPERATIONAL IS THAT RIGHT? AND THEN I WANTED 8000 TO GO INTO PARKS. AND THEN 2000 TO GO INTO NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS. WOULD THAT STILL GO UNDER THOSE GUIDELINES, OR WOULD I JUST NEED TO PUT THEM IN ONE? THE LAST 2000 FOR NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS? CERTAINLY. IS THERE A PROJECT IN PARKS? AND BECAUSE THEY'RE US THAT THAT WOULD WORK TO WHEN YOU SAID OPERATIONAL I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. JUST IN THE OPERATIONAL IN MY IN MY CONTROL. YEAH. LIKE LIKE MY CALL CENTER.

YOU MEAN YOUR OFFICE ACCOUNT? YEAH. IT SHOULD GO TO NDF AND THEN YOU CAN MOVE IT INTO YOUR OFFICE ACCOUNT IN THE FUTURE WHEN YOU WANT TO DO THAT. BUT, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO PROPOSE. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO. IT WOULD MAKE SENSE. OKAY. SO YOU CAN JUST PUT THAT

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THAT 8000 INTO MY CAPITAL AND I CAN MOVE IT OVER ANYTIME. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH OKAY. THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO. SO IT'S EIGHT. SO IT'S EIGHT. HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT TO MOVE. YEAH 8000 PARKS 10,020 8000 IN CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEN I GUESS WE WOULD DO 17. YEAH. 20 2828 CAPITAL. YEAH. AND IT AND THEN YOU HAD AN 8000 AN EXTRA 8000 PARKS. YES. PARKS. DID YOU SAY IS THERE IS THERE A SPECIFIC PARKS. YEAH. IS THERE A SPECIFIC PARKS PROJECT THAT YOU'RE FUNDING THERE? I'M ALWAYS DOING SOMETHING IN PARKS AND I ALWAYS GOT TO TRY TO MOVE MONEY. SO IF I COULD JUST I ALREADY HAVE IT THERE. OH. GOTCHA. 20,000 PLUS 8000. THIS IS LATONYA BELL, THE COUNCIL FINANCIAL ANALYST. DISTRICT ONE DOES A LOT OF DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES THROUGHOUT THEIR PARKS, AND THEY USUALLY PUT FUNDS IN THEIR PARK ACTIVITY, ACCOUNT FOR THOSE THINGS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. OKAY. YEAH. SO THEN THE OTHER 17,423 IS IN NDF, CORRECT? CORRECT. YES.

OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. DO WE HAVE THAT OKAY. DID WE MOVE THAT I WOULD PROPOSE WE MOVE ALL OF IT EITHER INTO CAFR AS COUNCILWOMAN WATKINS HAS REQUESTED. HAWKINS HAS REQUESTED SO THAT THOSE MOVES AND THEN THE REST THE DISTRICTS FIVE ONE WEST WOULD GO INTO CAPITAL DISTRICT SIX, HOPE BUS INTO INTO CRF DISTRICT SIX, ONE WEST INTO CRF. THE MUSCLE FROM DISTRICT TEN INTO CIF. AND THEN THE FOOD LITERACY FROM DISTRICT 14 INTO CIF. AND THEN THE OH THOSE ARE FLOCK CAMERAS. SO DO YOU ACTUALLY WANT IT IN INDIA? I THAT WOULD BE THE ORIGINAL INTENT. THE QUESTION WAS WOULD I PUT IT IN NDF AND THAT WOULD BE MY ORIGINAL THOUGHT. YES, BUT WE'RE IN A WE'RE IN AN UNUSUAL SITUATION THIS YEAR. SO IF PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE LEAVING OFFICE WANT TO BE ABLE TO ALLOCATE THIS BEFORE THEY LEAVE, IT'S A LOT EASIER TO ALLOCATE IT OUT OF THEIR CF BECAUSE THEY CAN DO IT AS PART OF THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT. THEY CAN'T GET AN NDF FINISHED BETWEEN NOW AND THURSDAY NIGHT. SORRY. OH, WAS THE FOOD LITERACY ALREADY OKAY? WE THEN AMEND THAT ONE OUT I APOLOGIZE, THAT WAS MY MISTAKE. OKAY. YEAH. I'M NOT I'M JUST TRYING TO GET IT WHERE IT FOR OMB PURPOSES, IT MOVES MORE SMOOTHLY AND IS ALREADY IN. IS IT OKAY IF WE VOTE ON THE AMENDMENTS THAT COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS JUST OFFERED INSTEAD OF.

SURE. TOGETHER WITH EVERYTHING ELSE? SURE. AND THEN SEPARATE THE DISCUSSION. SURE. SO JUST TO STAY CONSISTENT, MAKE A MOTION ON COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS SECOND AMENDMENT, THEN. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. EXCUSE ME. HAVE IT BEFORE US. QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE, I OPPOSED. I YOU GUYS HAVE IT, MR. CHAIR. WHAT A PRIVILEGE. COUNCILMAN HUDSON, THANK YOU. IF I DON'T LEAVE IN THE NEXT TWO MINUTES, I'M GOING TO DELAY MY NIECE'S WEDDING. SO I WANTED TO GET THIS IN BEFORE I HAVE TO LEAVE. THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD CHAIR.

CHAIR? IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING WITH YOU. I HAVE LEARNED A TON ABOUT THE BUDGET COMMITTEE. HAVING WORKED WITH YOU. YOU HAVE MY GREATEST RESPECT, MY GRATITUDE FOR YOUR SERVICE, AND I WISH YOU THE WISH YOU WELL IN IN YOUR NEXT CHAPTER. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE FOR US. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE THAT.

COUNCILMAN ROGERS IN THE SYSTEM. OH, I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN ARTHUR. I'M SORRY, BUT THAT'S FOR THE NEXT. THAT'S FOR THE NEXT ONE. YEP. OKAY. OH, YEAH. YEAH. RIGHT. IS IT TO ME? IT IS.

THANK YOU. SO, FOR THE REASONS I PREVIOUSLY PREVIOUSLY STATED, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TAKE FROM DISTRICT TWO, THE NEWBURGH MIDDLE, AND MOVE THAT MONEY INTO CIP FUNDS. THE DISTRICT FIVE ONE WEST. MOVE THAT INTO CI FUNDS. DISTRICT SIX, HOPE BUS THROUGH THAT INTO TIF DISTRICT SIX ONE WEST CORPORATION. MOVE THAT INTO THE TIF DISTRICT TEN MUSCLE. MOVE THAT INTO CIF AND THAT WOULD BE ALL. WE WOULD MOVE TO CIF AND I WOULD REMIND MY COLLEAGUES, LIKE

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FOR DISTRICT SIX WHILE HE'S HE WON'T BE HERE. SO HE MAY WANT TO USE THOSE CIF MONIES IN A DIFFERENT WAY. AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE AND MAKE THAT POSSIBLE FOR HIM TO DO THAT ON THURSDAY EVENING. THOSE ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT WE NEED TO MAKE. I. YOU ARE I NEED TO BE IN THE QUEUE AS WELL. DID YOU YOU MOVED. YOU MOVED THAT. NO. YOU MOVED THAT. YEAH. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT.

MAKE THAT IN THE FORM OF A MOTION. RIGHT. WE HAVE A SECOND. NO, IT'S BEFORE US, COUNCILMAN ARTHUR. SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, COUNCILMAN, I THINK I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, BUT WHAT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS SAID, THEY WANTED TO APPROPRIATE PROJECTS FOR YOUR SUGGESTING THAT WE MOVE IT ELSEWHERE. YEAH, I THINK. YEAH, I THINK SO. WHEN WE FIRST SENT OUT THE QUESTIONS FOR FOLKS, THE WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR WAS THAT YOU WOULD ONE EITHER EITHER ALLOCATE THE 53 FOR 23 TO SEE THE WHOLE AMOUNT. JUST CIF AND NOW IT'S IN YOUR DISTRICT CIF FUND OR INTO NDF. AND NOW IT'S IN YOUR NDF FUND OR ANY COMBINATION OF THAT. OR IF THERE WAS A PROJECT THAT YOU'D ALREADY IDENTIFIED THAT WAS ALREADY IN THE IN THE BUDGET PROCESS THAT YOU WOULD YOU COUL.

ALLOCATE THE FUNDS TO ANY AMOUNT OF THAT FUNDS TO THOSE PROJECTS. AND I THINK WHAT WHAT COUNCILMAN WILL SPEAK FOR YOU. BUT I THINK THE CONCERN IS THAT IF WE IF WE ALLOCATE TO NOT NO LONGER PROJECTS, BUT TO AGENCIES WHO HAVE MAYBE, MAYBE NOT BEEN VETTED AT ALL, THAT THAT KIND OF CIRCUMVENTS THE INDIA PROCESS THAT WE HAVE THAT ALLOWS US TO VET THOSE EXPENDITURES. SO I THINK THAT'S THE CONCERN. HOWEVER, IF THOSE THINGS AND I THINK WE'RE IN AGREEMENT HERE, IF THOSE THINGS HAVE ALREADY BEEN LISTED IN THE BUDGET, THAT'S A DIFFERENT THAT'S A BIT OF A DIFFERENT ANIMAL BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY HAS BEEN APPROVED IN THE BUDGET PROCESS. AND SO THEREFORE PRESUMABLY AT LEAST BEEN VETTED IN THE BUDGET PROCESS. UNDERSTOOD. SO I'LL JUST SAY I WOULDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE CHANGING APPROPRIATIONS THAT COLLEAGUES HAVE SUBMITTED WITHOUT DISCUSSING IT WITH THEM FIRST. I KNOW COUNCILWOMAN PURVIS JUST WALKED IN. I DON'T KNOW IF SHE KNOWS THAT SOMEONE JUST MOTIONED TO MOVE THE FUNDING THAT SHE WANTED TO PUT ELSEWHERE. I ALSO THINK THERE WAS A LACK OF CLARITY AROUND WHAT SPECIFIC PROJECTS MEANS FOR US. OF COURSE, THAT WAS SIDEWALK REPAIR FOR SOMEONE ELSE. THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN FUNDING FOR HOPE BUS, WHICH IS AN ENTITY THAT WAS FUNDED THROUGH THE BUDGET THAT WAS ALSO MENTIONED IN THE AMENDMENT. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IF WE ARE GOING TO OKAY, THINGS THAT WERE IN THE BUDGET, WE HAVE AN ANALYSIS AND AN UNDERSTANDING THAT SOME OF WHAT PEOPLE ARE SUGGESTING WAS ACTUALLY IN THE REGULAR BUDGET. RIGHT. AND WE NOTIFY THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CONSULT WITH THEM BEFORE WE CHANGE WHERE THEIR APPROPRIATIONS GO. VERY GOOD. I WOULD AGREE WITH YOUR POINT THERE. YES, COUNCILMAN KRAMER, THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN.

THE REASON FOR MY AMENDMENT AND WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS IT IS ONE THING FOR US TO HAVE GRANT GIVEN A GRANT TO AN ORGANIZATION THROUGH AN NDF IN THE PAST. THOSE GRANTS ARE WRITTEN FOR VERY SPECIFIC AMOUNTS OF MONEY. THEY ARE WRITTEN FOR VERY SPECIFIC PROJECTS, AND THEY ARE WRITTEN BASED ON THE REQUEST OF THAT ORGANIZATION. RIGHT. THERE'S A PROCESS TO DEAL WITH THOSE. AND SO THAT THERE'S A NORMAL NDF PROCESS AND ALL I'M ASKING IS THAT WE NOT SUBVERT THE PROCESS. RIGHT? WE USE A NORMAL NDF PROCESS IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO APPROPRIATE THESE FUNDS IN A WAY THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE THAT LEVEL OF SCRUTINY IS YOU WOULD DO THAT THROUGH CAPITAL PROJECTS, WHICH WE ALREADY DO, OR OTHER PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE ALREADY FUNDING.

RIGHT? SO ALL I'M DOING IS SAYING I'M JUST TAPPING THE BRAKES AND SAYING THIS. YOU'RE USING FUNDS AS IF THEY WERE NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS, WHEN IN FACT THEY'RE NOT. AND YOU'RE YOU'RE WE'RE GOING AROUND A PROCESS THAT'S DESIGNED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CAREFUL IN OUR ALLOCATIONS. SO I'M NOT PREVENTING ANYONE FROM BEING ABLE TO DO THAT. SO. WELL.

ACTUALLY, IT WOULD BE IF THE PERSON IS LEAVING OFFICE. RIGHT. BUT LIKE DISTRICT FIVE, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT SHE WAS HOPING TO DO WITH THAT MONEY, SHE CAN ALWAYS MOVE THE MONEY

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AROUND AND THEN DO AN MDF GRANT AND GET THAT FUNDED. HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER WAY SHE WANTS, THE CHALLENGE IS GOING TO BE AND THIS IS AGAIN, I'M TRYING REALLY HARD NOT TO. I DON'T WANT THIS TO FEEL LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO CHANGE WHAT PEOPLE CAN USE THEIR RESOURCES FOR, RIGHT? BUT THERE IS A PROCESS THAT WE SHOULD BE GOING THROUGH AND SO IF WE HAVE A COUNCIL MEMBER WHO'S ON THEIR WAY OUT, I WOULD HATE TO THINK WE SET THE PRECEDENT WHERE WE'RE JUST GOING TO DO AWAY WITH OUR NORMAL PROCESSES OF ACCOUNTABILITY. BUT IF THAT COUNCIL PERSON, INSTEAD OF WANTING TO PUT IT TOWARDS A PROJECT THAT REQUIRES A HIGHER LEVEL OF ACCOUNTABILITY, ONCE INSTEAD TO PUT IT INTO A PARKS PROJECT THAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING, OR INTO A CIP PROJECT, I'M NOT TRYING TO KEEP THEM FROM BEING ABLE TO ALLOCATE THE MONEY BEFORE THEY LEAVE OFFICE. RIGHT.

WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE STAYING, WE HAVE A PROCESS THAT WORKS. SO I'M NOT OPPOSED TO REACHING OUT TO MY COLLEAGUES AND SHARING WITH THEM WHY I'M MAKING THIS AMENDMENT. OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION ON THE FLOOR ON THURSDAY NIGHT. SO IT'S NOT LIKE THIS WAS GOING TO GO UNNOTICED, BUT I DO FEEL STRONGLY THAT WE NEED TO PROTECT OUR PROCESS. AND THE WAY TO DO THAT IS TO MAKE THIS AMENDMENT TONIGHT AND MAKE SURE THAT THE MONEY IS IN AN ACCOUNT THAT REQUIRES A HIGHER LEVEL OF SCRUTINY. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN MCCARTNEY, FOR CLARIFICATION. LET'S TAKE DISTRICT SIX, FOR INSTANCE. IF WE VOTE TO HAVE IT IN CIF, WILL HE BE ABLE TO ON THURSDAY INITIATE HIS CIF FUNDING TO GO TOWARD A DIFFERENT DISTRICT? DIFFERENT DISTRICT OR A DIFFERENT DISTRICT? NO, NO, I AM ASKING A DIFFERENT DISTRICT FOR THE FUNDING. OR COULD HE DESIGNATE FOR THIS THE SPECIFICS THAT HE'S OUTLINING IN THIS DOCUMENT ON THURSDAY? YEAH, I THINK ON THURSDAY HE COULD MAKE THE AMENDMENT. TO. YEAH. PUT IT TOWARD A PROJECT. YEAH. YOU CAN PULL YOUR FUNDS. SO IT COULD BE PULLED TO BE WITH A DIFFERENT JUST SIMILAR TO WHAT WE JUST DID WITH THE EXTENSION OFFICE. THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. WOULD HE BE ABLE TO PULL HIS MONIES. YES.

ON A PARTICULAR PROJECT. YES. OKAY. YEAH. AND ACTUALLY THAT'S I BELIEVE THAT'S WHY VICE CHAIR WAS SUGGESTING MOVING IT TO CIF RATHER THAN NDF, BECAUSE THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU THAT FLEXIBILITY ON THURSDAY WHERE THE NDF WOULD NOT. WE NEEDED TO BE VERY CLEAR BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE. YEAH.

VERY GOOD. OKAY. THAT IS COUNCILWOMAN OOPS. COUNCILWOMAN HERBST. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

CO-CHAIR KRAMER, WE WERE GIVEN THE OPTION TO DESIGNATE WHERE WE WANTED THOSE FUNDS TO GO, REGARDLESS OF THE NORMAL PROCES. SO I'M NOT COMFORTABLE. ALL OF A SUDDEN WITH KNOWING THAT WE HAVE TO DO IT A CERTAIN WAY. ARE YOU LISTENING? I'M OKAY. I'M STRUGGLING TO. OKAY. THE FIRST PART OF YOUR COMMENT IS, IS I'M HAVING A HARD TIME, OKAY? I'M NOT. YEAH. NOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT MY COLLEAGUE, COUNCILWOMAN FOWLER, HAD SOME FUNDS ALLOCATED TO WHERE SHE WANTED THEM TO GO, WHICH IS FINE. WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO DESIGNATE THESE FUNDS GOING TO ONE WEST IF ONE WEST HAD HAVE BEEN IN THE MID-YEAR BUDGET AS OTHER PEOPLE'S PROJECTS WERE. SO WE ARE TRYING TO PROTECT THEIR EXISTENCE BY GIVING THEM THIS MONEY, WHICH WE WERE TOLD THAT WE COULD HAVE THE OPTION TO TELL YOU WHERE WE WANTED OUR MONEY TO GO. NOW WE'RE BEING TOLD WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE PROCESS. WHAT COUNCIL COUNCILMAN BAKER WILL BE LEAVING THIS COUNCIL IN 26 DAYS. IN 26 DAYS? THERE WERE NOT THAT WILL NOT ALLOW HIM TIME TO DISTRIBUTE FUNDING TO ANYONE. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S POSSIBL.

THE NEW DEADLINE IS MONDAY. IS IT NOT, MISS HAYWOOD IS THE DEADLINE MONDAY FOR. YEAH. SO I MEAN, HOW IS THAT HOW HOW CAN WE MOVE THAT MONEY? YOU WOULDN'T YOU WOULD DO IT ON THE FLOOR ON THURSDAY NIGHT. CAPITAL. THE CAPITAL YOU NEED CAPITAL. AND I JUST I DID JUST CHECK. SO ONE WEST IS ALREADY IN THE BUDGET BUT WAS IT IN THE BUDGET AS IN INDIA? NO. OKAY. IT'S AN

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APPROPRIATE IT'S AN NDF OR IT WAS IN THE OPERATING. IT WAS. THEY ALREADY HAVE 25,000 IN OPERATING IN 100,000 IN CAPITAL. IN CAPITAL. OKAY. SO THAT IS A DIFFERENT ONE. OKAY. YEAH. THANK THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO HELP ONE WEST. OKAY. MR. CHAIR, COUNCILMAN. YES? HAVE ONE QUESTION. IF I MIGHT SPEAK TO THIS ONE. YEAH. GO AHEAD.

COUNCILWOMAN. COUNCILWOMAN PURVIS, IF I MAY, THE FUNDS THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO SEND TO ONE WEST, THIS WOULD. THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS THAT ONE WEST CAN'T GET AN F, RIGHT. SO ALL THIS WOULD DO IS SAY THAT WE. AND IF YOU WANTED, WE COULD MOVE YOUR MONEY INTO YOUR F ACCOUNT.

AND THEN ONE WEST COULD DO AN F REQUEST, AND THEN YOU COULD GIVE THE MONEY TO ONE WEST. THIS DOESN'T PREVENT YOU FROM BEING ABLE TO DO THAT. ALL IT DOES IS MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE'RE ALLOCATING THESE FUNDS TODAY, WE'RE ALLOCATING THEM IN A PROCESS THAT'S TRANSPARENT AND IT GOES THROUGH A PROCESS THAT MAKES SURE THAT WE KNOW WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING AND WHAT IS BEING SPENT ON. RIGHT. SO THERE'S THIS THIS WOULD NOT SAY YOU CAN'T EVER GIVE THE MONEY TO ONE WEST. IT WOULD JUST SAY, IF YOU WANT TO DO AN F TO ONE WEST IN THE FUTURE, YOU CAN WHAT IT WOULD DO FOR DISTRICT SIX IS SAY BECAUSE HOPE BUS WOULD REQUIRE AN F ACCOUNT OR AN F GRANT, THAT THAT MONEY WOULD BE WOULD NEED TO BE USED SOMEWHERE ELSE AND TO COUNCILMAN COUNCILWOMAN MCCRANEYS POINT THAT MONEY COULD BE MOVED INTO ANY CAPITAL PROJECT AND COULD BE POOLED WITH ANYBODY ELSE. SO IT DOESN'T KEEP THAT FROM HAPPENING. AND I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO SUBVERT THE PROCESS ANYMORE. RIGHT? I WANT TO AVOID THAT. BUT IF THERE ARE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN HELPING ONE WEST, THEN A COUNCIL MEMBER WHO'S LEAVING COULD SAY, HERE, I'LL DO THIS CAPITAL PROJECT FOR YOU, AND YOU DO THIS IN THE F FOR ME.

ONCE I'M GONE, I, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE THAT RECOGNIZES AND APPRECIATES TRANSPARENCY. RIGHT. SO YOU CAN'T SPEND CAPITAL MONEY IN INDIA? I'M NOT SO SURE. I THINK THE ONE WEST, THOUGH, IS GOING TO BE I BELIEVE THE ONE WEST IS GOING TO BE A SIMILAR SITUATION TO THE EXTENSION OFFICE, AND THAT IT'S ALREADY IN THE BUDGET. SO IT'D BE A SIMILAR THING. I WOULD, I WOULD, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE STRIKE THE TWO APPROPRIATIONS FOR ONE WEST. MR. CHAIR, CAN I ADDRESS MR. JACKSO? HOLD ON ONE SECOND. JUST JUST. AND WHAT DID YOU SAY? RIGHT.

YEAH, YEAH. A QUESTION FOR MR. JACKSON, SIR. HOW MUCH AMOUNT IS IN FOR ONE WEST? AARON JACKSON WITH OMB? THERE'S 25,000 IN THE OPERATING BUDGET. AND THEN THERE'S $100,000 FOR IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET FOR TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE. THANK YOU. SO WOULD YOU. SO DO YOU KNOW IF THE IF WHAT YOU'RE ASKING, THERE WAS A THIS THESE LINE ITEMS, WOULD IT BE GOING TO CAPITAL OR TO OPERATING OR. IS IT ALREADY IN THE BUDGET. OH YEAH. OPERATING INTO THE OPERATING. YEAH. THE MONEY THAT 6005 WAS GIVEN THE FUNDS THAT DISTRICT SIX AND FIVE WAS GOING TO GIVE WAS FOR OPERATING FOR OPERATING? YES. YEAH. SO I THINK WE SHOULD. YEAH. I THINK THAT'S SIMILAR TO THE EXTENSION OFFICE. DID WE ALREADY WHERE ARE WE ON THE AMENDMENT. DID WE ALREADY MOVE THAT AMENDMENT AMENDMENTS BEFORE US AS WE WERE DISCUSSING? OKAY. RIGHT. IS THAT IS THAT I DON'T KNOW WHO'S CHECKING. OKAY. MY NAME IS. PHILLIPS ON THERE. COUNCILWOMAN SHANKLIN. THEY WENT. YES. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WANT TO KNOW IF WE HAVE. CAN YOU HEAR ME? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. OKAY. WHAT IS MY. MY CONCERN IS WHAT? MY CONCERN IS THAT IF YOU PUT THE MONEY INTO THE NEW MONEY INTO CRF, THEN I WOULD NOT HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT. GETTING THAT MONEY

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MOVED OUT OF CRF TO NDF. OR CAN I NOT JUST PUT IT INTO MDF, WHICH WOULD BE ONE TIME WE CAN JUST DO MDF IS FINE. YES. OKAY. YEAH, I DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE TO DO IT TWICE. MOVE IT FROM CRF TO INDIA. I AGREE WITH YOU. YEAH, OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. YEAH, I HAVE TO DO IT TWICE BECAUSE HE OKAY. MR. RESEARCH. HE'S PULLING IT UP. IT MIGHT TAKE JUST A SECOND. OKAY. YES, COUNCILMAN.

ARTHUR, JUST A QUESTION FOR OMB. IS HOPE BUS. THE FISCAL AGENT FOR THE HOPE VILLAGE? I'M NOT SURE IF THEY'RE THE FISCAL AGENT, BUT WE ARE CHECKING TO SEE IF THEY'RE IN THE BUDGET, IF HOPE BUS IS IN THE BUDGET. AND THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE THE HOPE VILLAGE ABSOLUTELY RECEIVED FUNDING FROM THAT BUDGET. BUT IF THEY'RE USING THE SAME, DID IF THEY'RE USING THE SAME ENTITY, THE SAME NONPROFIT, WOULD THAT STILL COUNT ACCOUNTING WISE? I DON'T I'M NOT SURE OF THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE TWO ENTITIES. SO WITHOUT KNOWING THAT, IT'D BE HARD TO SAY FOR SURE. WE COULD ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, WE COULD LOOK INTO IT. BUT I DON'T KNOW, ON THE FLY. OKAY, I'LL ASK THE DIRECTOR IN THE MEANTIME, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MENTION, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN ABOUT CIRCUMVENTING THE PROCESS. WITH THAT BEING SAID, IF THAT'S HOW WE FEEL, WE MIGHT WANT TO APPLY THE SAME ATTITUDE TOWARDS THE REGULAR BUDGET CYCLE. WHEN WE PUT FUNDING THERE TOO. I MEAN, I THINK IT'S CONVENIENT, BUT IF WE WANT TO GET RID OF THAT PROCESS NOW, WE SHOULD GET RID OF IT THEN AS WELL. IF I MAY. THAT'S PRECISELY WHERE THIS CAME FROM. THIS PAST BUDGET CYCLE CREATED PROBLEMS FOR OMB, AND IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT WHAT WE DID IN THE BUDGET PROCESS ACTUALLY CREATED PROBLEMS FOR THEM, AND THAT IT DID. EXACTLY. AND THAT'S PRECISELY WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION. SO THANK YOU I APPRECIATE IT. AND MY PLAN IS TO MENTION IN JUNE, MY PLAN IS TO MENTION IN JUNE THAT YOU REMINDED US OF THIS. THANK YOU.

THIS IS GOING TO BE A DIRECT QUOTE. COUNCILMAN ARTHUR. COUNCILMAN, COUNCILWOMAN FOWLER, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR A COMMENT ON HERE FOR NOW? OR WAS THAT ARE YOU GOOD? YES. OKAY.

THANK YOU. MR. SO I WAS I WAS ABLE TO CONFIRM THERE'S FUNDING IN THE BUDGET FOR HOPE VILLAGE, BUT WE'RE STILL WE NEED TO DO SOME RESEARCH ON HOPE BUS. OKAY. TO CONFIRM THAT KIND OF POINT OF PRIVILEGE. THE DIRECTOR OF THE HOPE BUS JUST SAID THAT THE HOPE VILLAGE IS A PROGRAM OF THE HOPE BUS. SO ONCE AGAIN, WOULD THE FUNDING TOWARDS THE HOPE VILLAGE COUNT? AS COVERING THE HOPE BUS AS WELL? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S WHAT'S LISTED HERE. AND I DON'T KNOW IF DISTRICT SIX WANTS TO CLARIFY IF IT'S SUPPOSED TO GO TOWARDS THE HOPE VILLAGE OR THE HOPE BUS, IF THE SPONSOR WOULD BE WILLING TO MOVE IT TO HOPE VILLAGE, THAT WOULD MAKE IT EASIER, BECAUSE THEN WE KNOW FOR A FACT THAT'S IN. SO COUNCILMAN. COUNCILMAN. COUNCILMAN BAKER, CAN YOU HEAR US? YES, I CAN HEAR YOU. OKAY, SO THE QUESTION IS, IF YOU ARE IF IT'S IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU TO CHANGE THE HOPE BUS TERMINOLOGY TO HOPE VILLAGE, THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY IN THE BUDGET THAT ALLOWS, THAT'S AN EASIER MOVE. YES. I AM OKAY WITH THAT. OKAY. AS LONG AS I GET. THANK YOU. THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU. IT IS. I JUST I DO THINK WE JUST SORT OF CONFIRMED WE'RE WE'RE EXECUTING AGREEMENTS WITH HOPE BUS IN ORDER TO RUN THE HOPE VILLAGE. OKAY. AND SO I THINK UNDER THAT THE LANGUAGE FOR HOPE BUS WOULD BE OKAY. YOU CAN CHANGE IT IF YOU'D LIKE, BUT SINCE WE'RE ALREADY UNDER AGREEMENTS WITH HOPE BUS FOR THE PROGRAM, HOPE VILLAGE HOPE IT SHOULD BE OKAY, THEN WE'LL JUST LEAVE IT. YEAH. NEVER. NEVER MIND. COUNCILOR BAKER, I APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO BE COOPERATIVE THERE, BUT WE DON'T NEED. WE DON'T NEED IT NOW. WE'RE GOOD. ALL RIGHT, SO LET'S CLARIFY AGAIN WHAT WHAT CHANGES ARE WE? DISTRICT TWO IS GOING TO INDIA. SO DISTRICT TWO IS GOING TO NDRF. DISTRICT TEN IS GOING TO IN DISTRICT TEN IS GOING TO SEE IF. AND THOSE ARE THE ONLY CHANGES. AND WE HAVE THAT BEFORE US ALL. WE NEED IS A VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE AYE AYE. ANY OPPOSED. YES I OPPOSE YOUR POST OKAY. YEAH OKA. COUNCILMAN MULVIHILL IS LEAVING OFFICE. WHAT? AND SO THE MUSCLE IS HE GOING TO CHANGE THAT ON THURSDAY NIGHT? AND IT STILL BE ABLE TO GO TO MUSCLE? NO, I HAVE TO GO TO THE CAPITAL AND SO IS MUSCLE NOT IN OUR CAPITAL

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PROJECT OR IN OUR BUDGET. THIS IS THE COUNCIL FINANCIAL ANALYST. THAT'S THE ONE I WAS TRYING TO LOOK UP TO SEE. BUT I THINK THAT ONE IS IN THE BUDGET HERE. CAN YOU DOUBLE CHECK THAT FOR ME PLEASE? YEAH. THANK YOU. YES, IT DOES LOOK LIKE MUSCLE. SENIOR SENIOR WELLNESS CENTER IS IN THE BUDGET. IT WAS NOT RECOMMENDED BY THE MAYOR, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THERE WAS $52,500 ADDED BY THE COUNCIL UNDER THE OFFICE OF RESILIENCE AND COMMUNITY SERVICES FUND. OKAY.

THE EXTERNAL AGENCY FUND. VERY GOOD PROJECT. GREAT, GREAT. MR. JACKSON, WAS THAT FOR A SPECIFIC PROJECT? I ASSUME IT WAS. IF IT WAS ADDED BY THE METRO COUNCIL, IT WAS ADDED BY THE COUNCILMAN IN THAT DISTRICT DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS. BUT IT WAS FOR A SPECIFIC PROJECT. SO AGAIN, AND TO COUNCILMAN ARTHUR'S POINT, THIS IS THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAD AT THE IN THE BUDGET. THIS IS PRECISELY THE PROBLEM IS WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE WHO ARE ALLOCATING MONEY TO NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS WITHOUT ANY CLEAR DIRECTION. AND THEN OMB IS GOING BACK AND TRYING TO CREATE CONTRACTS WITH FOLKS TO DO WORK THAT THEY THAT THERE WAS NEVER A GRANT PROCESS FOR. SO THIS IS PRECISELY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID. SO IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE ALREADY THAT YOU ALREADY DEALT WITH BECAUSE IT WAS IN THE BUDGET ALREADY. SO IT WAS APPROPRIATED THROUGH THE METRO COUNCIL DISTRICT TO THE OFFICE OF RESILIENCE AND COMMUNITY SERVICES AS AN APPROPRIATION. SO IT IS IN THE SYSTEM. IT IS AN APPROPRIATE AN ORIGINAL APPROPRIATION TO THE MUSCLE SENIOR WELLNESS CENTER. GOTCHA. FOR A $52,500, WHICH IS JUST SIMPLY FOR OPERATING THE SAME AS WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. CORRECT. OKAY. SO IT'S THE SAME THING. AWESOME. SO YEAH. SO YOU'RE OKAY WITH IT AS THAT? YES. I MEAN, IT ISN'T GOING TO CAUSE ANOTHER NOT THAT YOU'RE OKAY WITH IT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, BUT THAT YOU ARE IT'S NOT GOING TO CAUSE AN EXTRA HEADACHE FOR YOU TO FOR US TO DO THIS. NOT FOR ME. I DON'T KNOW IF IT CREATES AN ISSUE FOR ANGIE OR SOMEONE ELSE, BUT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT I'M NOT SURE WHO THE VENDOR IS. AT I MEAN, I THINK IT WOULD RESULT IN PROBABLY ANOTHER AGREEMENT THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE ISSUED THROUGH RCS. SO RCS RECEIVED ONE POT OF MONEY FOR THIS PROGRAM. I'M NOT SURE THE STATUS, BUT CONCEIVABLY THEY'VE INITIATED SOME AGREEMENT TO ISSUE THAT PAYMENT. NOW, WITH ADDITIONAL MONEY, THEY WOULD HAVE TO ISSUE ANOTHER AGREEMENT.

BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S A QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT THEY COULD ISSUE AGREEMENT, BUT THEY'D PROBABLY HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE TO MAKE THAT PAYMENT. WHY DON'T WE DO SO? SO HERE'S MY SUGGESTION. WELL, ACTUALLY, WE ALREADY VOTED ON THIS, DIDN'T WE? YES. NO. OH YEAH. BUT EVERYBODY VOTED YES. OKAY. SO MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE THAT DISTRICT TEN THAT WE DO THAT THE COUNCILMAN, WE COULD WE COULD MAKE THAT MOTION. WE CAN MAKE THAT CHANGE ON THE FLOOR ON THURSDAY NIGHT. AND IN THE MEANTIME, WE'LL GET HIM TO CLARIFY WHAT WHAT IT WAS. AND IF IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS AN EXTENSION OF THE CURRENT CONTRACT OR IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS, IS DIFFERENT FROM THAT CURRENT CONTRACT. YES. DOES THAT WORK? YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE GOING TO MR. CHAIR, A POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE. YES. CAN WE RECALL THAT ITEM PERSON WHO VOTED? YES. YEAH. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE. YEAH. SOMEBODY WHO HAS WHO VOTED YES WOULD HAVE TO ASK FOR IT TO BE RECONSIDERED. MOTION TO RECONSIDER. I DIDN'T VOTE, SO IT'S GOT OTHER MATTERS.

OKAY. COUNCILMAN MULVIHILL IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO PUT HIS MONEY WHERE HE WANTS IT. SO SORRY, MR. CHAIR. WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE REQUEST TO RECONSIDER? I'D BE GLAD TO MAKE THE MOTION, BUT CAN YOU JUST CLARIFY REAL QUICK? YES. COUNCILWOMAN FOWLER, CAN YOU CLARIFY WHY YOU WANT TO RECONSIDER CLARIFICATION? IS THAT THE MUSCLE IS ALREADY IN THE BUDGET. IT COULD BE ALLOCATED AS WRITTEN AND WITH COUNCILMAN MULVIHILL GOING OUT NEXT WEEK, I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONLY FAIR EVERYBODY ELSE, IF IT WAS IN THE BUDGET, HAS BEEN ABLE TO LEAVE IT WHERE IT'S AT. YEAH. I'LL MAKE YOU KNOW, IN DEFERENCE TO MY COLLEAGUE AND TO HER POINT ABOUT COUNCILMAN MULVIHILL, I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S VOICE IS HEARD HERE. I'M GLAD TO MAKE THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. IT'S BEFORE US. AND NOW, MR. CHAIRMAN, POINT OF PRIVILEGE IS VERY TECHNICAL. THE WORD MUSCLE SHOULDN'T HAVE AN E. THE ORGANIZATION STYLIZES IT WITHOUT AN E. IT'S ALSO APPEARS IN THE BUDGET WITHOUT AN E. OKAY, SMALL, BUT JUST MAKING SURE, YOU KNOW, SEND IT TO SOME WORKOUT FACILITY SOMEWHERE. WE GOT THAT. THAT'S RIGHT. SO WE NEED TO. SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF RECONSIDERING SAY AYE. AYE

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AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NO. OKAY. SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE IT. MY TRAINED EAR. AND SO WE ARE IN NOW THAT'S IT. RIGHT. WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER I HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE SHEET. OKAY. SO NOW WE HAVE TO VOTE ON BRINGING IT BACK BEFORE US. JUST THE AMENDMENT OKAY. SO WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO.

DO YOU WANT TO TAKE IT BACK TO THE ORIGINAL ORIGINALLY. WAS THAT A MOTION TO GET BACK ON THE FIRST. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING OKAY. BACK BACK TO. THAT THIS IS NOT JUST AN AMENDMENT. SO IT ISN'T BEFORE US. SO WE'RE GOOD. THIS IS JUST. YOU JUST WANT TO PUT IT RIGHT? CORRECT? YEAH.

YEAH. SO WE NEED A MOTION TO GET THE WE NEED A MOTION TO GET THIS BACK ON THE FLOOR. YES. OH.

SECOND, IT'S NOW BEFORE US. OR DO I NEED TO TAKE A VOTE ON THA? THAT STATEMENT IS IN. IT IS.

YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL CONDITION? NO, NO, WE'RE GOING TO AS WHAT? WE JUST WE'RE JUST BRINGING BACK UP WHAT WE JUST PASSED. RIGHT? YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SO THE, THE AMENDMENT THAT WE JUST PASSED AT THE END WITH THAT VOTE IS NOW BEFORE US. RIGHT. AND, COUNCILWOMAN, MY SUGGESTION AND REQUEST WOULD BE THAT THE MUSCLE SENIOR CENTER FOR FISCAL YEAR 26 OPERATING BUDGET AT 52 FIVE STAYS THE SAME BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY IN THE BUDGET AND CAN BE DONE THAT WAY. GREAT. THANK YOU. SO THAT IS YOUR THAT IS MY MOTION. YOUR MOTION MINUS THE MUSCLE. RIGHT. OKAY. AND WE HAVE A SECOND. YES WE DID SECOND. OH YOU DID SECOND OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

COUNCILWOMAN HOPKINS, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ON. YEAH, I WANTED TO I WANTED TO REFER TO MY COLLEAGUE, COUNCILMAN KRAMER. SO WHEN YOU WERE THIS CLARITY FOR ME OR ANYBODY, ANY OTHER OF OUR COLLEAGUES. SO YOUR MOTION TO COME UP WITH THIS WAS JUST TO ASSURE THAT THE PROCESS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST NOT GIVING, YOU KNOW, FUNDING TO NONPROFITS. NOT THAT THEY'RE BAD ACTORS OR ANYTHING. CORRECT. IT'S JUST TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT THEY WOULD NORMALLY GO THROUGH IF THEY'RE NEEDING FUNDS ANYWAY. IS THAT A IS THAT IS THAT PRETTY MUCH YES. YES. OKAY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. AND IT'S THE FOLLOW UP TO THAT, IF I MAY, TO MAKE THE ARGUMENT THAT BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY GIVEN MONEY TO MUSCLE MEANS THAT IT'S OKAY, IS NOT THAT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING ALL NIGHT. RIGHT. WE GAVE MONEY TO MUSCLE THE COUNCILMAN DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS. GAVE MONEY TO MUSCLE IN A WAY THAT COUNCILMAN ARTHUR POINTED OUT WAS PROBLEMATIC. WE RECOGNIZED THAT THAT WAS A PROBLEM. WE'RE TRYING TO FIX THAT. OMB HAD TO GO BACK AFTER THE FACT AND ASK MUSCLE IF, IN FACT, THEY NEEDED THAT MONEY. NOW, THE REALITY, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEN AND NOW IS MUSCLE CAME BEFORE US AS PART OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE AND ARGUED THAT THEY HAD AN EAF REQUEST, AND THEIR EAF REQUEST WAS NOT HONORED, AND THE COUNCILMAN PUT MONEY INTO MUSCLE. AND I THINK HE ACTUALLY PUT MORE THAN WHAT THE EAF REQUEST WAS. AND THEN THEY HAD TO GO BACK AND DO THE CONTRACT AND SAY, OKAY, HOW ARE YOU USING THIS? WHAT WILL WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TONIGHT WITH A YES VOTE ON THIS IS WE WOULD SIMPLY BE GIVING MUSCLE THIS $52,000 WITHOUT KNOWING AT ALL. IF THEY WANTED IT. WHICH BY THE WAY, WHAT NONPROFIT IN TOWN IS GOING TO SAY, NO, I DON'T WANT IT. SO THAT'S NOT A REASONABLE ARGUMEN. RIGHT. BUT WE WOULD BE GIVING THIS $52,000 TO A NONPROFIT WHO DIDN'T ASK FOR IT TO SPEND ON A PROJECT THAT WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT MIGHT BE. AND IT'S NOT BECAUSE MUSCLE IS NOT A GREAT ORGANIZATION. OBVIOUSLY, THEY'VE BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME. THEY'VE GOTTEN NHF FUNDS. THEY'VE GOTTEN MONEY IN THE BUDGET. IT'S NOT A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER IT'S A I'M NOT QUESTIONING THE ORGANIZATION AND NOT EVEN CHALLENGING THE DISTRICT THAT'S MAKING THE DECISION. I'M I'M STICKING WITH THE SAME ARGUMENT I BEGAN WITH WHEN I BEGAN THE CONVERSATION. AND THAT IS WE HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE THAT ASSURES SOME LEVEL OF ACCOUNTABILITY AND THAT GRANTS THIS IS THE KEY THAT GRANTS MONEY TO ORGANIZATIONS UPON THEIR REQUEST. WHAT THIS IS DOING IS GOING OUT AND SAYING TO AN ORGANIZATION, WE'RE JUST GOING TO GIVE YOU MONEY. AND I THINK THAT'S A BAD THAT'S A BAD LOOK. I THINK IT'S A BAD A BAD ROAD TO GO DOWN. AND I'M TRYING TO SAY I'M TRYING TO SET THE

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GROUNDWORK FOR NEXT YEAR IN THE BUDGET CYCLE THAT WE DON'T JUST GO GIVING MONEY TO NONPROFITS BECAUSE WE KNOW THEY DO GREAT WORK. WE SHOULD KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE, WHAT THE REQUEST IS, AND HOW MUCH DO THEY NEED TO DO WHAT IT IS. WE DON'T WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO WITH IT. WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THEY NEED. WE DON'T. AND THAT'S FOR ME. THAT'S PROBLEMATIC. AND SO AGAIN, I'M GOING TO ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE TO VOTE NO. IF BETWEEN NOW AND THURSDAY, YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN MULVIHILL IS ABLE TO COME BACK AND PERHAPS SHIFT IT TO A CAPITAL PROJECT, WHICH IS, I THINK THE MORE IDEAL THAT'D BE MY PREFERENCE IF, YOU KNOW, AT THE VERY LEAST, I THINK SOMEBODY SHOULD EXPLAIN WHERE THIS MONEY IS GOING. AND I JUST CAN'T BRING MYSELF TO BE A YES VOTE WHEN I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THIS MONEY IS GOING. COUNCILMAN ARTHUR, THANK YOU. THE VICE CHAIR HAS GIVEN ME WAY TOO MUCH CREDIT FOR HIS CONCERN ABOUT THE PROCESS. I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR. I APPRECIATE THE CONVENIENCE OF MAKING SURE WE'RE DOING DIRECT TRANSFERS DURING THE BUDGET CYCLE. AND DURING THIS, AS WELL, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S A CROSS AGENCY TRANSFER. AS FAR AS THE NFE AND THE GRANT PROCESS BEING TRANSPARENT, THAT'S VERY VALID.

BUT THAT'S YOUR CONCERN. SO YOU DRIBBLE THAT BASKETBALL AND I'LL DRIBBLE MINE. I ALSO WANTED TO JUST SHOUT OUT BEFORE WE VOTE ON THE ENTIRE AMENDMENT, THE ENTIRE ORDINANCE, SHOUT OUT OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, WHO'S NOT ONLY THE BRAVEST PEOPLE IN THE CITY, BUT ALSO THE MOST PATIENT. SO THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. YEAH. AMEN. COUNCILWOMAN FOWLER, SO I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT COUNCILMAN MULVIHILL IS LEAVING OFFICE. I DON'T KNOW HOW HE WOULD BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS ORGANIZATION.

WHO HISTORICALLY HAS NEEDED MONEY AS THEY'VE BEEN IN CRISIS THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. SO, ANYWAY, I, I HOPE YOU VOTE YES. THANK YOU. MR. MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY. YES, COUNCILMAN PIAGENTINI, THANK YOUAPPRECIATE BOTH ARGUMENTS. I APPRECIATE LOOK, IF COUNCIL IF COUNCILMAN KRAMER HAS ANY FAULT, IT IS THAT HE IS A STICKLER FOR PROCESS AND RULES, WHICH IS WHY I LOVE AND APPRECIATE HIM SO MUCH. WITH THAT SAID, I AM INCLINED TO SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE, LOOK, IN DEFERENCE TO WHAT COUNCILWOMAN FOWLER IS SAYING, COUNCILMAN MULVIHILL IS NOT GOING TO BE HERE IN 20 SOMETHING DAYS. I THINK COUNCILWOMAN PURVIS SAID IT, AS WELL AS SEVERAL OF OUR OTHER COLLEAGUES. AND I'M I'M INCLINED TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT AND NOT MAKE THIS A RULE OF THE WAY WE DO THINGS, BUT YET SAY, THIS IS REALLY AN EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCE, AN ORGANIZATION THAT IS NOT OUT OF LEFT FIELD OR, YOU KNOW, HASN'T BEEN SUPPORTED BEFORE. AND, YOU KNOW, I'M INCLINED TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE SHOULD BE SOME LEVEL OF DEFERENCE GIVEN TO IN THIS PARTICULAR EXCEPTIONAL CASE. SO I'M GLAD TO SUPPORT IT AND APPRECIATE ALL THE COMMENTS HERE. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN OWEN. THANK YOU. CHAIR. I, I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN PIAGENTINI WHOLEHEARTEDLY. I SEE BOTH SIDES OF THE ARGUMENT. I THINK WE SHOULD CLEAN IT UP. AND SO WE DON'T GET CAUGHT IN THIS CONUNDRUM GOING FORWARD. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TAKE THAT MONEY FROM FROM FROM DISTRICT TEN. AND ABIDE BY HIS WISHES GOING FORWARD. IF THAT'S THE WAY HE WANTED TO DO IT, I'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. BUT AGAIN, IN THIS CASE, WHEN THIS IS THE ONLY THING LEFT HOLDING ON, ON, ON TONIGHT'S ON THE ON THE BUDGET AMENDMENT TONIGHT HERE THAT WE HAVEN'T KIND OF SQUEEZED IN THROUGH THIS PROCESS WHERE WE'VE IT'S AN ORGANIZATION THAT WE'VE FUNDED BEFORE. I'M PROBABLY INCLINED TO GO AHEAD AND JUST PASS IT THROUGH AS WELL, HOPING THAT WE CAN NOT DO THIS AGAIN AND CLEAN IT UP GOING FORWARD.

VERY GOOD. AGAIN, IF, IF, IF, IF COUNCILMAN MULVIHILL WOULD SAY WOULD CALL ME RIGHT NOW AND SAY, YOU KNOW, I'LL PASS THE MONEY INTO YOUR TO YOU, TO YOUR OFFICE AND YOU CAN DO. NO, I WOULD DO EXACTLY THE WAY HE WANTED ME TO DO IT. I'D BE HAPPY TO DO IT THAT WAY, TO PLEASURE. OKAY. SO WE HAVE THE AMENDMENT BEFORE US. ANY OTHER FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? NO. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE, AYE AYE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? YEAH. OKAY. OPPOSED? NO. MY EAR THINKS THAT WE HAVE MORE EYES, SO IT PASSES. SO NOW WE HAVE THE AMENDED ORDINANCE BEFORE US. WE HAVE THE AMENDMENT AND THE AMENDED ORDINANCE. GOTCHA. OKAY, SO THAT WAS A PARTIAL AMENDMENT. NOW WE HAVE

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THE FULL AMENDMENT BEFORE US. AGAIN. ANY QUESTIONS? CONCERNS SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. I OPPOSED. YES. HAVE IT NOW WE HAVE THE AMENDED ORDINANCE BEFORE US WHICH REQUIRES A ROLL CALL VOTE. PLEASE OPEN THE VOTING. COUNCILWOMAN MCCRANIE YES.

COUNCILWOMAN PARKER. YES. CHAIR, YOU HAVE EIGHT YES VOTES. VERY GOOD ITEM PASSES AND WE'LL GO TO OLD BUSINESS BECAUSE OF THE AMENDMENT. AND WE HAVE ONE LAST, ONE LAST ORDINANCE. HERE IS ITEM

[5. O-291-24 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 080, SERIES 2023 AND ORDINANCE NO. 101, SERIES 2024 RELATING TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2023-2024 AND FISCAL YEAR 2024-2025 CAPITAL BUDGETS, RESPECTIVELY, BY TRANSFERRING $144,039.01 TO THE D12 SYLVANIA PARK REIMAGINING PROJECT. Action Required By: May 21, 2025 Sponsors: Rick Blackwell (D-12) ]

FIVE, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 80, SERIES 2023, AN ORDINANCE NUMBER 101, SERIES 2024 RELATING TO FISCAL YEAR 2324 AND FISCAL YEAR 24, 25 CAPITAL BUDGETS, RESPECTIVELY, BY TRANSFERRING $144,039.01 TO DISTRICT 12. SYLVANIA PARK REIMAGING PROJECT SECOND, A MOTION AND A SECOND AND I DO HAVE TO MAKE ONE AMENDMENT HERE. THIS IS THE SYLVANIA PARK CAME BEFORE US. IT WAS ACTUALLY IT WAS PART OF THE WHEN WE DID THE PARKS FOR ALL WE WERE DOING THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE AND THERE WERE SOME, SOME SUGGESTIONS FOR SYLVANIA PARK. HOWEVER, AT THE TIME THE TRYING TO ESTABLISH WHAT IT IS THAT YOU WANTED TO DO WITH THE PARK TO FOR THE NEIGHBORS AND MAKE IT A BETTER PLACE. AND SO THIS IS WE ALREADY HAD IN THE BUDGET A RE-IMAGING ITEM THAT WOULD ALLOW PARKS FOR ALL TO DO THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. THIS IS SIMPLY TRANSFERRING MONEY OVER SO THAT WHEN THEY DO THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, THEY ALSO HAVE SOME FUNDS TO DO THE FIRST STAGES OF THAT, THE AMENDMENT BY SUBSTITUTION ALSO INCLUDES THAT WE'LL HAVE TO THAT WILL HAVE TO APPROVE. OR I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO APPROVE CHANGES. THE D12 SYLVANIA REIMAGING PROJECT TO SAY IT WILL CHANGE IT TO D12 SYLVANIA REIMAGING PROJECT. SO IT MATCHES THE BUDGET WORD FOR WORD AND DOES AND WILL SCRATCH PARK. AND THEN ALSO I'M SUGGESTING IN THERE TO CHANGE THE DESCRIPTION TO DO WHAT I JUST SAID. THE NEW DESCRIPTION WE THE PROJECT FUNDS SYLVANIA REIMAGING PROJECT, INCLUDING COMMUNITY OUTREACH BY PARK ALLIANCE TO DETERMINE BEST USES AND INITIAL EXPENDITURES TOWARD THAT VISION. SO THAT'S THE AMENDMENT BY SUBSTITUTION THAT IS IN YOUR SYSTEM. AND IF I CAN GET A MOTION TO MOVE THAT AMENDMENT FROM THE MOTION BEFORE US, QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE EYES HAVE IT AND WE HAVE THE AMENDED ORDINANCE BEFORE US WHICH CALLS FOR A ROLL CALL. VOTE, PLEASE OPEN THE VOTING. COUNCIL MEMBER CRANEY. YES.

COUNCILWOMAN PARKER. YES. CHAIR. YOU HAVE SEVEN YES VOTES. I'M SORRY. CAN YOU SAY THAT AGAIN? YOU HAVE SEVEN YES VOTES. SEVEN YES VOTES. GREAT. IT WILL GO TO OLD BUSINESS BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN AMENDED. AND ONE LAST THING. I ALSO AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN ARTHUR. THANK YOU, FIREFIGHTERS, FOR BEING SO PATIENT AND WAITING FOR THAT. AND THEN WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO CALL YOU UP TO SPEAK, SO WHICH I'M SURE YOU'RE PROBABLY OKAY WITH, RIGHT? I'VE NEVER KNOWN ANYBODY WHO SAID, OH, MAN, CAN WE CAN WE ENTERTAIN THAT AGAIN SO WE CAN COME UP AND SPEAK FOR THIS? OR RATHER THAN JUST HAVE A YES VOTE? SO WE APPRECIATE APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU DO. AND WE'RE HAPPY TO BE ABLE TO HELP YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT YOU HAVE AS WELL. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES. IT'S BEEN A JOY TO BE THE BUDGET CHAIR. WELL, JOY, MAYBE NOT JOY.

IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE STRONG. I'VE BEEN HONORED TO BE THE BUDGET CHAIR FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS. I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR WORK WITH ME, AND I WILL MISS SOME PARTS OF THAT. HOWEVER, I'LL TELL YOU, I WILL NOT MISS TAKING A WEEK'S VACATION FROM MY FULL TIME JOB IN ORDER TO FINISH UP THE NEGOTIATIONS IN MY PART TIME JOB. THAT PART I WILL NOT MISS, NOR WILL MY WIFE. BUT IT HAS BEEN. I HAVE ENJOYED AND I REALLY HAVE ENJOYED WORKING WITH YOU GUYS. YOU HAVE BEEN WONDERFUL TO WORK WITH ON THE BUDGET PROCESS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. COLLEAGUES, IF I MAY, I WILL NOT TRY TO SPEAK ON THE FLOOR ON THURSDAY NIGHT BECAUSE COUNCILMAN BLACKWELL AND I HAVE BEEN FRIENDS BEFORE. METRO COUNCIL. THERE'S A PICTURE. I THINK HE STILL HAS.

LOUISVILLE MAGAZINE DID A PICTURE OF US ARM WRESTLING, BECAUSE IN THE FIRST TIME THROUGH WHICH I WON, BY THE WAY, I DON'T THINK THE PICTURE INDICATES THAT. BUT WE WERE BOTH TEACHING AT MERCY AT THE TIME, AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHO CAME IN FIRST AND SAID, I'M THINKING

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ABOUT RUNNING FOR COUNCIL, BUT I REMEMBER THE CONVERSATION BEING, OH, REALLY? SO AM I. AND SO WE HAD THE PLEASURE THAT FIRST FEW YEARS. I THINK SOME OF THOSE YEARS MIGHT HAVE BEEN ROCKY, BUT WE MANAGED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THROUGH THAT. AND THEN THESE LAST TWO YEARS, I'M WORKING TOGETHER ON THE BUDGET, HAVE BEEN HAVING WORKING ON THE BUDGET WITH COUNCILMAN BLACKWELL, HAVE BEEN THE BEST TWO YEARS THAT I'VE HAD IN MY 22 YEARS HERE. SO I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE HIS FRIENDSHIP FOR COUNCIL. I APPRECIATE HIS BEING WILLING TO GET PAST SOME OF MY SOME AMOUNT OF DIFFICULTY IN THE EARLY YEARS, AND ALLOWING US TO RETURN TO BEING SUCH GREAT FRIENDS. I PERSONALLY AM GOING TO MISS HIM A LOT HERE AT SCHOOL, A LOT OUR PETS WILL STILL CROSS. HE'S STILL DOING THE PRESIDENT STUFF, SO. BUT I DO WANT TO SAY A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO HIM AS CHAIR OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE AND THE WORK THAT HE'S DONE AND IT'S JUST A GREAT FRIEND FOR SUCH A LONG TIME. SO IN THURSDAY, I, I'M GOING TO KEEP MY MOUTH SHUT BECAUSE I'M CRYING IN PUBLIC IS NOT MY THING. I OH, THANK YOU. SO THAT'S WE HAVE NOTHING FURTHER BEFORE. SO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN. THANK YOU. IS ADJOURNED

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