Nov 21, 2024 Metro Council (trimmed)

[Call to Order and Pledge of Allegiance]

[Member Roll Call]

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MISTER PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. COLLEAGUES, I'M UP HERE TONIGHT TO SAY A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO

[1. ID 24-0703     Council President Winkler will accept a donation from the Kroger Company (Louisville Division) for the Metro Council Food Drive supporting the Area Community Ministries.]

SO FAR, WE'VE COLLECTED OVER 500 FOOD ITEMS. YOU CAN GO TO THE LOUISVILLE METRO COUNCIL WEBSITE TO FIND THE WHERE THOSE LOCATIONS ARE NEAR YOU, AND THE THINGS THAT THE COMMUNITY MINISTRIES NEEDS DURING THIS TIME. AND WHAT WE'D ASK YOU TO DONATE ARE ANY SORT OF CANNED PROTEINS. SO BEEF STEW, CANNED CHICKEN, TUNA, ANY SORT OF HEARTY SOUPS. TOMATO SAUCE.

CANNED FRUIT. JELLY, CEREAL AND THEN ANY OTHER HOUSEHOLD ITEMS LIKE SOAP, SHAMPOO, DEODORANT, TOOTHPASTE, TOILET PAPER, FEMININE HYGIENE PRODUCTS, ETC. SO FIND ONE OF THOSE LOCATIONS.

PLEASE DONATE. I PROMISE YOU IT'S GOING TO GO TO A GOOD CAUSE AND TO PEOPLE IN NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY AND A THANK YOU, SPECIAL THANK YOU TO KROGER AND THANK YOU TO OUR COMMUNITY MINISTRIES FOR ALL OF THE WORK THAT THEY DO. WE'LL BE ACCEPTING DONATIONS THROUGH DECEMBER 5TH AND ENCOURAGE YOU TO PARTICIPATE. SO, JAKE, THANK YOU SO MUCH TO THE KROGER COMPANY. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE GOT ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SAY, BUT WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP. YEAH. HAPPY TO. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR THAT. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. THANKS.

PRESIDENT WINKLER, MEMBERS OF METRO COUNCIL AND FELLOW CITIZENS OF LOUISVILLE, BOTH HERE IN THE CHAMBER AND JOINING US AT HOME. HEY, I AM EXCITED TO BE HERE TONIGHT. MY NAME IS JAKE CANNON. I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF SERVING AS THE DIVISION PRESIDENT FOR THE LOUISVILLE DIVISION OF KROGER. AND ON BEHALF OF OUR 5000 ASSOCIATES HERE IN THE LOUISVILLE METRO AREA, I'M HONORED TO BE HERE TONIGHT. YOU KNOW, PRESIDENT AT LOUISVILLE. EXCUSE ME. AT KROGER, OUR MISSION IS SIMPLE BUT PROFOUND. AND THAT'S TO FEED THE HUMAN SPIRIT. THIS MEANS NOT ONLY PROVIDING FRESH, AFFORDABLE FOOD FOR EVERYONE, BUT ALSO CREATING JOBS AND GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE SERVE EVERY DAY IN FACT, KROGER DONATES 5 MILLION POUNDS OF FOOD AND $5 MILLION TO THIS COMMUNITY EVERY YEAR, WORKING ALONGSIDE INCREDIBLE ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE AREA ASSOCIATION OF COMMUNITY MINISTRIES. DARE TO CARE, METRO COUNCIL, OF COURSE, AND MANY OTHERS. AND TONIGHT, WE ARE VERY PROUD TO ANNOUNCE, AS YOU SAID PRESIDENT WINKLER, THAT WE ARE MAKING A $5,000 DONATION TO THE ASSOCIATION OF COMMUNITY MINISTRIES TO HELP KICK KICK START THE 2024 HOLIDAY FOOD DRIVE. SO THIS MARKS THE SECOND YEAR IN A ROW THAT THE METRO COUNCIL HAS ORGANIZED THIS IMPORTANT INITIATIVE. IN THE SECOND YEAR THAT KROGER HAS BEEN HONORED TO PARTICIPATE. BUT WE CERTAINLY CAN'T DO IT ALONE. AND AS YOU SAID, THERE'S A LOT OF NEED OUT THERE. AND YOU MENTIONED THE ITEMS THAT REALLY DO THE BEST GOOD FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AND SO WE ENCOURAGE EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY TO JOIN US BY HELPING TO SURPASS THIS YEAR'S GOAL OF COLLECTING 2000 FOOD ITEMS. SO WHEN YOU'RE OUT SHOPPING FOR YOURSELF, PLEASE CONSIDER PICKING UP A FEW EXTRA ITEMS FOR YOUR NEIGHBORS IN NEED. AND TOGETHER, WE REALLY CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. THIS HOLIDAY SEASON. SO THANK YOU TO THE METRO COUNCIL AND ALL THE VOLUNTEERS AND ORGANIZATIONS WHO DEDICATE THEMSELVES TO MAKING LOUISVILLE A STRONGER, MORE CARING COMMUNITY. REALLY WISH EVERYBODY A HAPPY THANKSGIVING AS WELL HERE IN THE CHAMBER. AND THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE A PART OF THIS PRESIDENT. THANK YOU. DO YOU WANT TO TAKE A PICTURE? YEAH. SORRY. THANK YOU.

I'M READY. WE'LL LOOK UP HERE. ONE. TWO. THREE. FOUR.

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[2. ID 24-0704     Council President Winkler and Council Members will recognize the University of Louisville Interns. ]

BUT WE'LL START WITH THE GENERAL ONE TO ALL WHOM THESE LETTERS SHALL COME. GREETINGS. KNOW YE THAT THE LOUISVILLE METRO COUNCIL HEREBY RECOGNIZES THE LOUISVILLE METRO COUNCIL INTERNS OF 2020. FOR IN HONOR OF THEIR PUBLIC SERVICE. WHEREAS THEY'RE ALL MEMBERS OF THE LOUISVILLE METRO COUNCIL INTERNSHIP INTERNSHIP PROGRAM THROUGH THE UNIVERSITY OF LOUISVILLE. AND WHEREAS, THEY HAVE SERVED THE GOOD PEOPLE OF LOUISVILLE METRO UNDER THE TUTELAGE OF THE VARIOUS METRO COUNCIL OFFICES, AND WHEREAS WE ARE CERTAIN THAT WE CAN EXPECT GREAT THINGS FROM THEM AND WISH THEM SUCCESS IN THEIR FUTURE ENDEAVORS. THESE PRIVILEGES AND RESPONSIBILITIES THEREUNTO APPERTAINING IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF WE HAVE CAUSED THESE LETTERS TO BE MADE, AND HEREBY CONFER THIS HONOR WITH ALL OF THE RIGHTS AND THE OFFICIAL SEAL OF THE LOUISVILLE METRO GOVERNMENT TO BE HEREUNTO AFFIXED, DONE IN THE COMMONWEALTH OF KENTUCKY ON THIS 21ST DAY OF NOVEMBER, 2020 FOR MARCUS WINKLER, METRO COUNCIL PRESIDENT. SO THANK YOU ALL AND CONGRATULATIONS, COLLEAGUES. I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO JOIN THEM. FIRST, GIVE THEM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE. AND THEN I HOPE YOU'LL JOIN US ALL FOR A PICTURE. YOU CAN JUST GO ON UP.

AND. COME IN A LITTLE BIT. YES, SIR. Y'ALL SMILE FROM HERE. ALL RIGHT. ONE, TWO. THREE. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE REFLECT THE RECORD SHOWING THAT I'M RELEASING TO YOU. CHAIR. BACK TO PRESIDENT WINKLER. SO NOTED. I'LL GET YOU. KNOW. MADAM CLERK, ARE THERE ANY ADDRESSES TO COUNCIL? YES, SIR.

[3. ID 24-0723     Addresses to Council – November 21, 2024]

BATES. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO COME AND SPEAK TONIGHT WITH YOU.

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HOWEVER, IT IS NO IF NO ONE CARES ENOUGH TO LISTEN TO THOSE WHO ACTUALLY DO THE WORK SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY ARE SIMPLE OFFICE WORKERS, GLORIFIED SECRETARIES, AND PENCIL PUSHERS, THEN IT IS APPARENT THAT IT NEVER WILL CHANGE. IT IS ALSO APPARENT THAT IF THE DEPARTMENT THINKS SO LITTLE OF THEIR CIVILIAN STAFF WHO DOES SO MUCH IMPORTANT WORK, THEN THEY HAVE NOT. EXCUSE ME.

THEY HAVE. THEY HAVE NOT COME UP WITH BETTER SOLUTIONS. WHAT A DISGRACE THIS IS. SO I'M ASKING YOU NOT ONLY TO LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY TODAY, BUT TO TRULY HEAR THE MEANING OF WHAT IS SAID. WE ASK THAT YOU ACT ON THESE ISSUES TO PREVENT FURTHER AND FUTURE LOSSES TO ALL OF US, TO HELP US RESTORE THE INTEGRITY WE TRY TO UPHOLD EACH DAY, EVEN DURING THE WORST OF TIMES LIKE WHEN THE RIOTS OCCURRED, WE ALL CAME IN TO WORK TO PREVENT FURTHER LATE RELEASES AND MINIMIZE ERRORS. WE HAVE ASKED REPEATEDLY FOR PROPER TRAINING, PROPER STAFFING, AND INCREASED WAGES TO RETAIN EMPLOYEES, INCLUDING THE TEN AND 20 YEAR VETS WHO ARE NOW LEAVING TO OBTAIN BETTER STAFFING LEVELS, YOU MUST PAY QUALITY WAGES FOR QUALITY EMPLOYEES. YES, THIS MEANS PAYING MORE THAN THE LOCAL MCDONALDS OR WALMARTS ARE PAYING THE PEOPLE THEY ARE LEAVING FOR THOSE JOBS. THE STAFF MEMBERS HIRED WILL NOT BE THE ONES RESPONSIBLE TO PERFORM THE DUTIES. NO LESS THAN THAT OF A PARALEGAL PROCESSING THE HUNDREDS OF LEGAL DOCUMENTS RECEIVED DAILY FROM THE 35 PLUS COURTS FOR EACH AND EVERY INCARCERATED INDIVIDUAL. STAFF MUST BE TRAINED THOROUGHLY TO PROCESS SUCH LEGAL DOCUMENTS IN EVERY CAPACITY. WE HAVE CONTINUED TO DO MORE WITH LESS AND NOW WE'RE RECEIVING LESS THAN WHAT IS EXPECTED. THANK YOU FOR THE TIME. THANK YOU. I HAVE SO MUCH MORE TO SAY, BUT I KNOW I DON'T HAVE THE TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SHARONDA SIMMON. IS THAT LOUD ENOUGH FOR YOU? GOOD AFTERNOON. COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I AM A UNION MEMBER WHO HAS BEEN EMPLOYED WITH METRO CORRECTIONS FOR 23 YEARS. MY NAME IS SHARONDA SIMMONS, AND MY POSITION WITH METRO CORRECTIONS IS A RECORD SUPERVISOR ONE. I COME BEFORE YOU TODAY NOT ONLY AS AN EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY, BUT AS SOMEONE WHO IS DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT A GROWING ISSUE AFFECTING MYSELF AND MANY OTHERS WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT. THE ISSUE OF BEING UNDERPAID FOR THE GREAT WORK THAT WE DO. JUST TO BE CLEAR, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY HANDOUTS, NOR ARE WE SEEKING ANY TO CREATE DIVISION. WE ARE SIMPLY ASKING FOR WHAT IS RIGHTFULLY OURS THE FAIR COMPENSATION FOR OUR LABOR. AS A CIVILIAN STAFF, WE WORK HARD, GIVE OUR TIME AND OUR EXPERTISE TO MAKE THE DEPARTMENT RUN SMOOTHLY. WHILE BEING UNDERPAID AND UNDERSTAFFED AS WELL, WE ARE NOT BEING PAID WHAT WE DESERVE. THE COST OF LIVING IN THIS CITY CONTINUES TO RISE. HOUSING, HEALTH CARE AND BASIC LIVING EXPENSES ARE BECOMING MORE EXPENSIVE. WHILE WAGES REMAIN STAGNANT OR IN SOME CASES NOT KEPT PACE WITH INFLATION. BEING UNDERPAID DOESN'T JUST AFFECT US, IT IMPACTS OUR FAMILIES, THE COMMUNITIES, AND ULTIMATELY THE ENTIRE CITY. WE ARE FORCED TO MAKE DIFFICULT CHOICES BETWEEN PAYING BILLS AND BUYING GROCERIES. IT AFFECTS OUR MENTAL HEALTH AND OUR PRODUCTIVITY. WE HAVE SEEN STAFF THAT HAS WORKED IN OUR DEPARTMENT FOR OVER 10 TO 24 YEARS TO GO WORK AT ANOTHER METRO JOB TO GET BETTER PAY FOR THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES. MAJORITY OF THE CITY EMPLOYEES THAT ARE WITH US TODAY HAS LESS THAN 5 TO 7 YEARS TO RETIRE. THAT'S A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE THAT WE WILL NO LONGER HAVE WITH THE DEPARTMENT. SO WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THE EMPLOYEES THAT WE HAVE SO THEY TOO CAN HAVE A FUTURE AT

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS BLEDSOE. THANK YOU. MICHAEL. SPRINGER. MICHAEL. SPRINGER.

THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON COUNCIL. HOW YOU DOING? MY NAME IS MICHAEL SPRINGER. I AM THE PROGRAM MANAGER FOR OUR HOUSING DEPARTMENT AT BLUEPRINT 502, FORMERLY KNOWN AS YOUTHBUILD LOUISVILLE. I CAME HERE TONIGHT JUST TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO HELP HOUSE THE HOMELESS YOUTH IN OUR CITY. ON TONIGHT, WHEN IT'S COLD, WHEN IT'S RAINING. WHEN YOU COULD FEEL HOPELESS. IF YOU'RE OUT THERE TONIGHT IS A WHITE FLAG NIGHT. WHERE THERE ARE SOME YOUNG PEOPLE HAVE CHOSEN TO GO INTO SHELTERS TO SLEEP ON A MAT. AND THERE'S SOME YOUNG PEOPLE

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THAT WAS PROVIDED THE BASELINE NEED OF SAFETY AND SECURITY. AND LIKE I SAID, I WANT TO CONTINUE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING THAT EFFORT BECAUSE THEY HAVE SAFETY AND SECURITY. THEY'RE MOTIVATED TO DO BETTER AND TO DO MORE, AND THEY WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT. OUR YOUNG PEOPLE IN OUR PROGRAM, WE SERVE 18 TO 24 YEAR OLDS. WE HELP PAY THEIR RENT 90% OF THEIR RENT FOR UP TO A YEAR.

WE SUPPORT. WE SUPPORT THEM WITH SUPPORTIVE SERVICES. WITH THAT, THEY'RE CHOOSING TO GET HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMAS AND GEDS. THEY'RE CHOOSING TO GO TO WORK AND USE THIS YEAR OF SERVICE, THIS YEAR OF SUPPORT TO GET ON THEIR FEET. AND IT'S REALLY MAKING A IMPACT. LIKE I SAID, I DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME. BUT AGAIN, I SAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. SPRINGER. THANK YOU. TARA. HIDE. TARA, HIDE. TARA, HIDE. HELLO. HI. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME THE TIME TO SPEAK TODAY. AND TO YOU THIS EVENING. I KNOW IT IS. THE WEATHER IS UNPREDICTABLE TODAY. IT SEEMS LIKE I WILL BE SHORT. ALSO, I'M TARA HIDE AND I'M WITH PEOPLE ADVOCATING RECOVERY. AND WE WORK TO REMOVE BARRIERS FOR THOSE THAT ARE IN OR SEEKING RECOVERY FROM SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER. AND I'M HERE ALSO REPRESENTING THE RECOVERY COMMUNITY AS A PERSON IN LONG TERM RECOVERY. AND I'VE BEEN A PERSON IN RECOVERY FOR 13 YEARS, AND I STARTED MY RECOVERY JOURNEY AS A 23 YEAR OLD YOUNG PERSON WHO FOUND THEIR WAY INTO RECOVERY THROUGH A HOMELESS SHELTER THAT OFFERED A RECOVERY PROGRAM, AND I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU TODAY SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE RECOVERY HOUSING ORDINANCE THAT WAS DISCUSSED LAST WEEK IN COMMITTEE AND THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED TODAY OR VOTED ON. OR, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT VERY CLEAR ABOUT THE PROCESS IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT. SO FORGIVE ME. I'M STILL LEARNING, BUT I REALLY WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE NATIONAL STANDARDS WITH THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE FOR RECOVERY RESIDENCES THAT WAS JUST DISCUSSED WITH MISS BLEDSOE, AND THEN ALSO, WE HAVE A STATE LAW ON THE BOOKS THAT WAS PASSED IN 2023 THAT HELPED TO CARVE OUT A DEFINITION FOR RECOVERY RESIDENCES IN THE STATE OF KENTUCKY, WHICH IS A BEAUTIFUL THING. AND WE HAVE A NATIONAL ALLIANCE FOR RECOVERY RESIDENTS AFFILIATE HERE IN KENTUCKY THAT'S CURRENTLY CERTIFYING RECOVERY RESIDENCES. AND I KNOW THAT AT THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT, AT LEAST IN JEFFERSON COUNTY, WE'RE NOT REALLY CLEAR ON WHAT RECOVERY RESIDENCES ARE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THESE DIFFERENT PERMITS AND THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE OPERATING RECOVERY RESIDENCES IN ORDER TO GET THEM TO BE AN OPERATOR. AND SO I THINK IF WE REALLY LOOK AT ADOPTING SOME OF THOSE DEFINITIONS AND PROCEDURES AND PROCESSES THAT ARE ESTABLISHED IN STATE GOVERNMENT AS WELL AS AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL THAT PROVIDE QUALITY, SAFE HOUSING FOR INDIVIDUALS, AND JUST AS MUCH AS BOBBY HAS JUST SPOKE ABOUT HER EXPERIENCE, WHEN I CAME INTO RECOVERY IN 2011, THE ONLY THING THAT WAS AVAILABLE WAS A HOMELESS SHELTE. THERE WAS NO OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOUNG WOMEN TO FIND HOUSING. I WOULD NOT BE SUCCESSFUL WITHOUT THAT PLACE, THE HEALING PLACE. I WOULD NOT BE HERE TODAY AND THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE UTILIZING RECOVERY RESIDENCES TODAY, TONIGHT, IN THIS WEATHER, IN THIS STORM, IN THIS CITY THAT WOULD NOT HAVE THAT SAFE, STABLE ENVIRONMENT WITHOUT IT. SO WHAT I'M ASKING FOR YOU GUYS TODAY IS TO DISCUSS WITH YOUR LOCAL EXPERTS BECAUSE THERE ARE A TON OF RECOVERY ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE PROVIDING QUALITY WORK THAT WORK IN THIS POLICY SPACE, THAT CAN HELP AND ASSIST TO PROVIDE GOOD QUALITY, STABLE, EQUITABLE HOUSING IN THIS COMMUNITY AS WELL AS ACROSS THE STATE. UTILIZE US AS RESOURCES AND UTILE STE LAW AS A REFERENCE, AND THEN ALSO UTILIZE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT STANDARDS AS WELL. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MISS HYATT. THANK YO. ABIGAIL SCHWEITZER. THAT'S ME. LET ME.

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HIS SIX YEAR OLD IS UNINJURED, SEEMINGLY ONLY THANKS TO THE GRACE OF GOD, BUT HE IS HAUNTED BY THE POSSIBILITIES OF WHAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED TO HER HONORABLE COUNCIL MEMBERS. THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE. NO LOUISVILLE NEIGHBORHOOD, RICH OR POOR, OLD OR NEW, IN THE WEST END OR IN ANCHORAGE? NO ONE DESERVES TO LIVE IN FEAR OF INDUSTRIAL ACCIDENTS WHILE LIVING IN THEIR HOMES. NO ONE DESERVES TO LIVE IN THEIR HOME IN FEAR OF THE FACTORY THAT EXPLODES EVERY 20 YEARS. THAT IS WHY I AM HERE TONIGHT. I REPRESENT A GROUP OF SEVERAL CONCERNED CITIZENS WHO HAVE ORGANIZED AROUND A SIMPLE GOAL. JAIVARDHAN MUST NOT BE ALLOWED TO REBUILD IN ANY PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS. AND YES, THE COMPANY HAS SAID THEY ARE PRIORITIZING OTHER LOCATIONS SO THEY WON'T REBUILD IN THE CLIFTON AREA. BUT THIS IS SIMPLY NOT ENOUGH. WHEN THEY DODGE THE QUESTION OF WHETHER THEY WILL SIMPLY REBUILD. IN SMOKETOWN BUTCHERTOWN, ANOTHER POOR NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A RAILROAD TO PROVE WE AREN'T ALONE, I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO COUNCIL THIS PETITION CONTAINING 385 SIGNATURES FROM CHANGE.ORG AND 80 SIGNATURES FROM THE PHYSICAL PETITION, FOR A TOTAL OF 465 PEOPLE WHO LIVE AND WORK IN THIS AREA, WHO REFUSE TO ALLOW THIS PROBLEM TO BE PASSED ON TO ANY OF THEIR LOUISVILLIAN NEIGHBORS. I IMPLORE THIS COUNCIL TO WORK TOGETHER WITH THE OFFICE OF PLANNING TO TAKE THE STEPS NECESSARY TO OVERCOME THIS TRAGEDY AND PREVENT FUTURE TRAGEDY IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. YOU. YOU, THANK YOU TO THE PERSON. DANA PRESTON.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TIME TO SPEAK. MY NAME IS DANA PRESTON. I'M WITH THE CABINET FOR HEALTH AND FAMILY SERVICES. SPECIFICALLY, THE PROGRAM IS THE KENTUCKY RECOVERY HOUSING NETWORK. WE ARE THE ONES WHO ARE DOING THE STATE MANDATED CERTIFICATION THROUGHOUT THE STATE. ALSO, AS SOMEONE WHO IS IN LONG TERM RECOVERY AND A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 25, I'M VERY GLAD TO HEAR THAT LOUISVILLE, THROUGH THIS ORDINANCE, IS AT LEAST ADDRESSING TRANSITIONAL HOUSING AND SOBER LIVING HOUSES. RECOVERY RESIDENCES, WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE TO CALL THEM HERE IN LOUISVILLE, AND UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF A QUALITY RECOVERY. HOUSING LANDSCAPE. BECAUSE, AS TARA MENTIONED, THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IN THIS CITY WHO SUFFER FROM SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER AND ARE IN NEED OF QUALITY HOUSING AND

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I GOT TO GO AROUND THE WHOLE STATE, AND I SEE A LOT OF CONFUSION ON WHAT IS RECOVERY, HOUSING, HOW IT SHOULD BE DEFINED AND WHAT HOW IT SHOULD BE REGULATED. AND NORA HAS DONE A LOT OF THAT FOR US. WE GO THROUGH A CERTIFICATION PROCESS WHICH IS VERY ROBUST. WE HAVE 41 CERTIFIED HOUSES HERE IN LOUISVILLE, AND THEY HAVE ALL GONE THROUGH A VERY SIMILAR PROCESS. STARTS WITH THE DOCUMENTATION REVIEW, WHERE WE DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS A LEGAL BUSINESS ENTITY. YOU CAN'T BE FLYING UNDER THE RADAR WITH US. YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN EIN. YOU HAVE TO BE REGISTERED WITH THE KENTUCKY SECRETARY OF STATE. YOU HAVE TO HAVE VALID INSURANCE. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MINIMUM LIABILITY INSURANCE SO THAT IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, YOU'RE COVERED AS WELL AS YOUR NEIGHBORS AS WELL AS THE PEOPLE DO A REVIEW OF POLICY ANDHAT, WE PROCEDURE DOCUMENTATION TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE WRITTEN POLICIES AROUND OPERATIONS, ETHICS, AND ESPECIALLY EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS AND THAT LEADS TO THE SECOND PART, WHICH IS A SITE VISIT. THE PHYSICAL PROPERTY MUST MEET A VERY SPECIFIC SET OF STANDARDS REGARDING WHAT IS AND IS NOT ALLOWED WHEN IT COMES TO RECOVERY RESIDENCE, SO THAT THE SAFETY OF THE RESIDENTS IS MAINTAINED AND THE SAFETY OF THE RESIDENCE ITSELF IS MAINTAINED. SPECIFICALLY, 50FT■!S PER PERSON IN EACH BEDROOM, WHICH DOES NOT INCLUDE CLOSET SPACE, THAT THERE MUST BE ONE FULL BATHROOM, A SINK, SHOWER, AND TOILET FOR EVERY SIX RESIDENTS THAT THE BUILDING ITSELF MUST BE FINISHED. IT'S FUNNY TO ACTUALLY HAVE TO SAY THAT, BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WOULD PUT PEOPLE IN UNFINISHED BASEMENTS. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T FLY IN THIS PROGRAM. NOW, WHEN I GO INTO A PLACE AND I SEE THAT THAT IS THAT THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE. AND I HAVE DONE THAT BEFORE. SO MY NAME IS DANE PRESTON. YOU GUYS ARE WELCOME TO REACH OUT TO ME AT KY RECOVERY HOUSING AT KY GOV. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I COULD GO ON FOR ABOUT ANOTHER HOUR, BUT AGAIN THAT'S KY RECOVERY HOUSING AND KY GOVERNOR THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. WONDERFUL EVENING. THANK YOU JOHN BELL. GOOD EVENING, METRO COUNCIL. I'M PASTOR JOHN BELL. I'M A RESIDENT OF JACOB NEIGHBORHOOD AND A CONSTITUENT OF DISTRICT 15. I'M HERE TODAY TO THANK COUNCILWOMAN JENNIFER CHAPPLE FOR STANDING WITH THE WORKING CLASS PEOPLE OF LOUISVILLE LAST WEEK IN METRO COUNCIL'S PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING, COUNCILWOMAN CHAPPLE STOOD ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY. SHE UNDERSTOOD THAT OUR CITY NEEDED THE INNOVATIVE AND PIONEERING ANTI-DISPLACEMENT ASSESSMENT TOOL, AND SHE USED HER VOTE TO ENSURE A BETTER FUTURE FOR HER CONSTITUENTS AND THE CITY. FURTHER STILL, SHE AND FIVE OF HER COLLEAGUES CHOSE TO CO-SPONSOR THIS CRITICAL LEGISLATION. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN, FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND FORESIGHT TO KNOW THE DECISIONS SUCH AS THESE ARE THE ONES THAT WILL SPOTLIGHT OUR CITY AS WE LEAD THE COUNTRY IN THE FIGHT AGAINST HOUSING CRISIS. AS A PASTOR, I'VE SERVED IN SEVERAL CITIES. ALL OF THEM UNDERSTOOD THAT LOCAL ARTISTS, SMALL BUSINESSES AND INDIVIDUALS WHO WORK SERVICE JOBS ARE AN ESSENTIAL PART OF THE ECONOMIC SUCCESS OF A CITY. AND SO THEY PROMOTE THESE INDIVIDUALS AND THEIR WORK. AND ONCE THESE EFFORTS ARE SUCCESSFUL, WHEN IT COMES TIME TO DEVELOP CITIES OFTEN TURN THEIR BACKS ON THE SAME WORKING CLASS PEOPLE WHO HELPED MAKE THE CITY WHAT IT IS TODAY. I PERSONALLY KNOW PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN PRICED OUT OF EVERY COMMUNITY THEY'VE HELPED TO ECONOMICALLY DEVELOP, AND THAT'S NOT RIGHT. IN ONE OF THE CITIES I SERVED A LOCAL ARTIST.

I KNEW HELPED TO ORGANIZE A MONTHLY ART SHOW THAT CONTRIBUTED TO AN ECONOMIC BOOM IN THE CITY, BOOM IN THE CITY, AND AS A CITY, RESPONDED BY BUILDING NEW APARTMENTS. THE COST OF RENT WENT UP, SO MUCH SO THAT THIS ARTIST ENDED UP NOT BEING ABLE TO AFFORD TO STAY IN THEIR APARTMENT, AND THEY ENDED UP LIVING WITH US IN OUR BASEMENT. THE OLD TESTAMENT REMINDS US OF GOD'S PROMISE TO ALWAYS BE DOING A NEW THING. GOD IS ALWAYS MAKING A NEW CREATION.

ISAIAH SPECIFICALLY REFERS TO THE ABILITY OF EACH PERSON TO OWN THEIR OWN HOUSE AND THEIR

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[4. ID 24-0724     Regular:  Metro Council – November 7, 2024]

SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN PARISH. RIGHT. THE MINUTES HAVE BEEN PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? THE EYES HAVE IT. THESE MINUTES ARE APPROVED AS WRITTEN.

[Committee Minutes]

[5. ID 24-0725     Regular:  Committee of the Whole – November 7, 2024]

[6. ID 24-0695     Regular:  Planning and Zoning Committee – November 12, 2024]

[7. ID 24-0696     Regular:  Labor, Economic Development, and Appropriations Committee – November 12, 2024]

[8. ID 24-0697     Regular:  Public Works Committee – November 12, 2024]

[9. ID 24-0698     Regular:  Government Oversight/Audit and Appointments Committee – November 12, 2024]

[10. ID 24-0699     Regular:  Equity, Community Affairs, Housing, Health, and Education Committee – November 13, 2024]

[11. ID 24-0701     Regular:  Parks and Sustainability Committee – November 14, 2024]

[12. ID 24-0702     Regular:  Budget Committee – November 14, 2024]

[13. ID 24-0726     Regular:  Committee on Committees – November 19, 2024]

[Communications to the Council]

[14. ID 24-0717     Civilian Review and Accountability Board – Angela Bowens (New Appointment).]

[15. ID 24-0718     Extension Board – Amir Hussein (New Appointment).]

[16. ID 24-0719     Library Advisory Commission – Brelin Tilford (New Appointment) and Marcus Walker, Nathan Smith, Carla Robinson, Tiffany Stith (Reappointments).]

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YOUR PROMPT ACTION ON THIS APPOINTMENT AND REAPPOINTMENT IS MOST APPRECIATED. SINCERELY,

[17. ID 24-0720     Pleasure Ridge Park Fire Protection District Board – Patrick Sparks (New Appointment).]

[18. ID 24-0721     Police Merit Board – Kem Martin (New Appointment).]

[19. ID 24-0722     Tree Advisory Committee Board – Mary Gerstle, Eneitra Beattie, James Gootee, Michael Blankenship (New Appointments) and John Swintosky, Helen McArthur-Hacker, Cynthia Sullivan, Elizabeth Winlock, Matthew Wieczorek, Priya Persad (Reappointments).]

MARY GERSTEL A NEW APPOINTMENT TERM EXPIRES NOVEMBER THE 29TH, 2025. ANITRA BEATTIE A NEW APPOINTMENT TERM EXPIRES NOVEMBER THE 29TH, 2025 JAMES GAUTHIER A NEW APPOINTMENT TERM EXPIRES NOVEMBER THE 29TH, 2026 MICHAEL BLANKENSHIP A NEW APPOINTMENT TERM EXPIRES NOVEMBER 29TH, 2027. JOHN SWINTON, AN REAPPOINTMENT TERM EXPIRES NOVEMBER THE 29TH, 2025 HELEN MCARTHUR HACKER A REAPPOINTMENT TERM EXPIRES NOVEMBER THE 25TH, 2025 STEPHANIE SULLIVAN A REAPPOINTMENT TERM EXPIRES NOVEMBER 29TH, 2026. ELIZABETH WINLOCK A REAPPOINTMENT TERM EXPIRES NOVEMBER 29TH, 2027. MATTHEW ZORIC A REAPPOINTMENT TERM EXPIRES NOVEMBER THE 29TH, 2027 PRIYA PRASAD, A REAPPOINTMENT TERM EXPIRES NOVEMBER 29TH, 2027. YOUR PROMPT ACTION ON THESE APPOINTMENTS AND REAPPOINTMENTS IS MOST APPRECIATIVE. SINCERELY, GREG GREENBERG MAYOR. THANK YOU. THOSE APPOINTMENTS NEEDING COUNCIL APPROVAL WILL BE FORWARDED TO THE GOVERNMENT OVERSIGHT, AUDIT AND APPOINTMENTS COMMITTEE. COLLEAGUES, OUR NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE CONSENT

[Consent Calendar]

[Legislation forwarded from BUDGET COMMITTEE]

[20. O-245-24     AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 100, SERIES 2024, RELATING TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2024-2025 OPERATING BUDGET, BY TRANSFERRING $10,300 FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUND (DISTRICT 6) TO THE LOUISVILLE METRO COUNCIL GENERAL OPERATIONS (DISTRICT 6). 11/14/2024 Budget Committee  Recommended for Approval Sponsors: Phillip T. Baker (D-6) ]

[21. R-136-24     A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE SCHEDULE OF THE REGULAR MEETINGS OF THE LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL OF THE LOUISVILLE/JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT (“COUNCIL”) FOR THE CALENDAR YEAR 2025. 11/19/24 Committee on Committees  Recommended for Approval Action Required By:  May 7, 2024 Sponsors: Markus Winkler (D-17) ]

[Legislation forwarded from COMMITTEE ON COMMITTEES]

[Legislation forwarded from EQUITY, COMMUNITY AFFAIRS, HOUSING, HEALTH AND EDUCATION COMMITTEE]

[22. R-128-24     A RESOLUTION PURSUANT TO THE CAPITAL AND OPERATING BUDGET ORDINANCES APPROVING THE APPROPRIATION TO FUND THE FOLLOWING NONCOMPETITIVELY NEGOTIATED PROFESSIONAL SERVICE CONTRACT FOR LOUISVILLE METRO PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELLNESS CONCERNING AN OVERDOSE QUICK RESPONSE TEAM – (LOUISVILLE RECOVERY COMMUNITY CONNECTION, INC. – $65,175.00). 11/13/24 Equity, Community Affairs, Housing, Health and Education Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: May 7, 2025 Sponsors: Barbara Shanklin (D-2) ]

[23. R-133-24     A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO ACCEPT $1,040,000 FROM DELTA DENTAL OF KENTUCKY TO BE ADMINISTERED BY THE OFFICE OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND THE OFFICE OF RESILIENCE AND COMMUNITY SERVICES. 11/13/24 Equity, Community Affairs, Housing, Health and Education Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: May 7, 2025 Sponsors: Jecorey Arthur (I-4) ]

[24. R-134-24     A RESOLUTION PURSUANT TO THE CAPITAL AND OPERATING BUDGET ORDINANCES APPROVING THE APPROPRIATION TO FUND THE FOLLOWING NONCOMPETITIVELY NEGOTIATED PROFESSIONAL SERVICE CONTRACT FOR LOUISVILLE METRO PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELLNESS CONCERNING WASTEWATER MONITORING - (UNIVERSITY OF LOUISVILLE RESEARCH FOUNDATION, INC. - $301,100.00). 11/13/24 Equity, Community Affairs, Housing, Health and Education Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: May 7, 2025 Sponsors: Phillip T. Baker (D-6) ]

[Legislation forwarded from GOVERNMENT OVERSIGHT/AUDIT AND APPOINTMENTS COMMITTEE]

[25. RP111224LH     REAPPOINTMENT OF LORETTA HAYDEN TO THE HUMAN RELATIONS ADVOCACY BOARD. (TERM EXPIRES SEPTEMBER 30, 2027) 11/12/24 Government Oversight/Audit and Appointments Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: May 7, 2025]

[26. AP111224EE     APPOINTMENT OF ERIK ELZY TO THE KENTUCKIANAWORKS – GREATER LOUISVILLE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT BOARD. (TERM EXPIRES DECEMBER 13, 2027) 11/12/24 Government Oversight/Audit and Appointments Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: May 7, 2025]

[27. RP111224RR     REAPPOINTMENT OF ROCKI ROCKINGHAM TO THE KENTUCKIANAWORKS – GREATER LOUISVILLE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT BOARD. (TERM EXPIRES SEPTEMBER 10, 2027) 11/12/24 Government Oversight/Audit and Appointments Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: May 7, 2025]

[28. RP111224EF     REAPPOINTMENT OF ERIC FRIGGLE TO THE KENTUCKIANAWORKS – GREATER LOUISVILLE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT BOARD. (TERM EXPIRES OCTOBER 8, 2027) 11/12/24 Government Oversight/Audit and Appointments Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: May 7, 2025]

[29. RP111224LC     REAPPOINTMENT OF LAMONT COLLINS TO THE LOUISVILLE DOWNTOWN MANAGEMENT DISTRICT BOARD. (TERM EXPIRES NOVEMBER 11, 2027) 11/12/24 Government Oversight/Audit and Appointments Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: May 7, 2025]

[30. RP111224DB     REAPPOINTMENT OF DEBORAH BILITISKI TO THE REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY BOARD. (TERM EXPIRES FEBRUARY 28, 2027) 11/12/24 Government Oversight/Audit and Appointments Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: May 7, 2025]

[31. RP111224MB     REAPPOINTMENT OF MICHAEL BATEMAN TO THE REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY BOARD. (TERM EXPIRES FEBRUARY 28, 2027) 11/12/24 Government Oversight/Audit and Appointments Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: May 7, 2025]

[32. AP111224SD     APPOINTMENT OF SHERYL DUFF TO THE RIVERPORT AUTHORITY BOARD. (TERM EXPIRES JULY 31, 2027) 11/12/24 Government Oversight/Audit and Appointments Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: May 7, 2025]

[33. RP111224DW     REAPPOINTMENT OF DAVID WASKEY TO THE RIVERPORT AUTHORITY BOARD. (TERM EXPIRES JULY 31, 2027) 11/12/24 Government Oversight/Audit and Appointments Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: May 7, 2025]

[34. RP111224BM     REAPPOINTMENT OF BONNIE MICHAEL TO THE RIVERPORT AUTHORITY BOARD. (TERM EXPIRES JULY 31, 2027) 11/12/24 Government Oversight/Audit and Appointments Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: May 7, 2025]

[Legislation forwarded from LABOR, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE]

[35. O-243-24     AN ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING $63,250 FROM DISTRICT 22 NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS TO THE LOUISVILLE METRO POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR THE INSTALLATION OF 10 FLOCK CAMERAS IN DISTRICT 22. 11/12/24 Labor, Economic Development, and Appropriations Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: May 7, 2025 Sponsors: Robin Engel (R-22) ]

[36. O-251-24     AN ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING $15,000 FROM DISTRICT 24 NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS TO LOUISVILLE METRO POLICE DEPARTMENT’S 7TH DIVISION FOR COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH SHOP WITH A COP. 11/12/24 Labor, Economic Development, and Appropriations Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: May 7, 2025 Sponsors: Madonna Flood (D-24) ]

[37. O-254-24     AN ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING $6,025 FROM DISTRICT 6 NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS TO THE LOUISVILLE METRO OFFICE OF ARTS + CREATIVE INDUSTRIES FOR A PUBLIC ART MURAL AT THE THREE POINTS INTERSECTION OF GERMANTOWN, SHELBY PARK, AND SCHNITZELBURG. 11/12/24 Labor, Economic Development, and Appropriations Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: May 7, 2025 Sponsors: Phillip T. Baker (D-6) ]

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[38. R-127-24     A RESOLUTION PURSUANT TO THE CAPITAL AND OPERATING BUDGET ORDINANCES APPROVING THE APPROPRIATION TO FUND THE FOLLOWING NONCOMPETITIVELY NEGOTIATED PROFESSIONAL SERVICE CONTRACT FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CONCERNING FINANCIAL ADVICE AND COUNSELING ON COMPLEX FINANCIAL ARRANGEMENTS, DEAL STRUCTURES, AND TAX INCREMENT FINANCING – (COMMONWEALTH ECONOMICS PARTNERS, LLC - $108,000). 11/12/24 Labor, Economic Development, and Appropriations Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: May 7, 2025 Sponsors: Phillip T. Baker (D-6) ]

[39. R-129-24     A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO ACCEPT $1,000,000 FROM THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION THROUGH THE OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY BUILD AMERICA BUREAU FOR THE INNOVATIVE FINANCE AND ASSET CONCESSION GRANT PROGRAM TO BE ADMINISTERED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 11/12/24 Labor, Economic Development, and Appropriations Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: May 7, 2025 Sponsors: Donna L. Purvis (D-5) ]

[Legislation forwarded from PARKS AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE]

[40. R-117-24     A RESOLUTION PURSUANT TO THE CAPITAL AND OPERATING BUDGET ORDINANCES APPROVING THE APPROPRIATION TO FUND THE FOLLOWING PROFESSIONAL SERVICE CONTRACT FOR THE ZOO CONCERNING AN ANIMATRONIC DINOSAUR. DISPLAY – DINO DON, INC. - $265,000.00. 11/14/24 Parks and Sustainability Committee Recommended for Approval Action Required By: April 24, 2025 Sponsors: Pat Mulvihill (D-10) ]

[41. R-131-24     A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO ACCEPT A DONATION OF CASH, VEHICLES, AND OTHER TANGIBLE PERSONAL PROPERTY VALUED AT APPROXIMATELY $73,235 FROM THE ESTATE OF CAROL CORNWELL PRICE TO BE ADMNISTERED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION. 11/14/24 Parks and Sustainability Committee Recommended for Approval Action Required By:  May 7, 2024 Sponsors: Dan Seum, Jr. (R-13) ]

[Legislation forwarded from PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE]

[42. O-260-24     AN ORDINANCE AMENDING 156.051 OF THE LOUISVILLE METRO CODE OF ORDINANCES CLARIFYING THE AREA OF REGULATION REGARDING CLEANLINESS OF PROPERTIES. 11/12/24 Planning and Zoning Committee Recommended for Approval Action Required By:  May 7, 2024 Sponsors: Phillip T. Baker (D-6), Khalil Batshon (R-25), Jennifer Chappell (D-15), Ben Reno-Weber (D-8)]

[43. R-108-24     A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE DISPLACEMENT ASSESSMENT FORM AND RESULTS MATRIX. 11/12/24 Planning and Zoning Committee Recommended for Approval 10/29/24  Planning and Zoning Committee Tabled  10/15/24  Planning and Zoning Committee Held Action Required By:  April 10, 2025 Sponsors: Jecorey Arthur (I-4), Phillip T. Baker (D-6), Andrew Owen (D-9), Ben Reno-Weber (D-8), Shameka Parrish-Wright (D-3), Khalil Batshon (R-25), Jennifer Chappell (D-15)]

[44. R-130-24     A RESOLUTION REQUESTING THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REGULATIONS WITH REGARD TO TRANSITIONAL HOUSING. 11/12/24 Planning and Zoning Committee Recommended for Approval Action Required By:  May 7, 2024 Sponsors: Khalil Batshon (R-25), Donna Purvis (D-5), Phillip Baker (D-6)]

[Legislation forwarded from PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE]

[45. O-261-24     AN ORDINANCE AMENDING 51.503 OF THE LOUISVILLE METRO CODE OF ORDINANCES TO EXPAND AND ENHANCE THE ABILITY OF LOUISVILLE METRO GOVERNMENT TO REDUCE THE PRESENCE OF LITTER, TRASH, AND DEBRIS ALONG OUR ROADWAYS.   11/12/24 Public Works Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By:  May 7, 2024 Sponsors: Paula McCraney (D-7) ]

MADAM CLERK, PLEASE OPEN THE VOTING. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER WRIGHT DID YOU WANT TO VOTE, MA'AM? YES. IT WON'T COME UP. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. YOU HAVE 23 YES VOTES. THANK YOU. THE CONSENT CALENDAR IS ADOPTED. THE

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[46. R-120-24     A RESOLUTION OF THE LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL OF THE LOUISVILLE/JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT TO CREATE A NEW COUNCIL RULE ON DISCIPLINE AND TO MAKE NECESSARY CONFORMING AMENDMENTS TO EXISTING COUNCIL RULES 8 AND 11 (AS AMENDED). 11/19/24 Committee on Committees  Amended; Recommended for Approval Action Required By:  April 24, 2024 Sponsors: Markus Winkler (D-17) ]

COUNCILMEMBER CRAIG. THIS IS THE COUNCIL RULE ON DISCIPLINE. THAT'S BEFORE US. THANK YOU. I'M HAVING DIFFICULTY WITH MY COMPUTER. BEAR WITH ME. IT'S ABOUT THE VACANCIES RULE. THIS IS THE DISCIPLINE. DISCIPLINE RULE. YEAH. MR. PRESIDENT, I ASK FOR THE RELINQUISHED OF THE SEAT. I'M SORRY. THE RELINQUISH OF THE SEAT FOR YOU TO COMMENT. OH. CLERK. LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT. I'LL RELINQUISH THE CHAIR TO COUNCILWOMAN MCCRANEY. SO NOTED.

JUST CALLS ON COUNCILMAN WINKLER, PLEASE. THANK YOU. COLLEAGUES. THIS IS. YOU KNOW, WE'RE SORT OF GOING THROUGH ALL OF THE. AND IF I MAY, I'LL SPEAK TO THE NEXT ITEM AS WELL. SO WE'RE GOING THROUGH SORT OF THE CLEANUP OF THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AND RULES AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS. SO THERE ARE TWO ITEMS BEFORE US. THE FIRST ONE RELATES IS A NEW SECTION OF OUR RULES THAT RELATES TO DISCIPLINE. THE NEXT SECTION RELATES TO VACANCIES IN OUR RULES TODAY. THESE ARE SORT OF COMBINED AND INTERSPERSED INTO A SINGLE RULE. SO IT TALKS ABOUT

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BUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS US DOING THINGS LIKE CENSURING EACH OTHER, FORCING A PUBLIC APOLOGY, WHICH I HONESTLY HAVE NO CLUE HOW WE WOULD FORCE SOMEBODY TO SAY SOMETHING THAT THEY MAY NOT OR DO NOT AGREE WITH, AND THEN A REQUIREMENT FOR REMEDIAL TRAINING, RIGHT, BASED OFF OF WHAT? BASED OFF OF THE OPINION. AND HERE'S MY PRACTICAL PROBLEM OF PRECISELY 14 PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THIS COUNCIL. OKAY. SO THERE'S SO NOW COMES MY LESS PHILOSOPHICAL, MORE PRACTICAL

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AND IF YOU GET 14 FRIENDS TO GO ALONG WITH YOU NOW, YOU HAVE ALL THIS. WE'RE BEATING UP A COLLEAGUE BECAUSE YOU DISAGREE WITH THEM OR YOU DON'T LIKE THEM WITH NO DUE PROCESS, BY THE WAY, NOT A NOT A NOT A SUPERMAJORITY. A SIMPLE MAJORITY WITH ZERO DUE PROCESS. IF I GO DOWN TO AND THAT IS REFLECTED UNDERNEATH THE THREE. AND AGAIN I WON'T GET INTO THE DETAILS OF WHAT I THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, FORMAL CENSURE. THERE IS, YOU KNOW, SOME REASONABLE REASONABLENESS AND PRECEDENT FOR THAT. BUT REQUIREMENT OF A PUBLIC APOLOGY. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU REQUIRE SOMEBODY TO PUBLIC APOLOGY TO PUBLICLY APOLOGIZE, BUT AT THE END OF IT IT SAYS, QUOTE, AGAIN QUOTING IMPOSITION OF ANY FORM, ANY FORM OF ALTERNATIVE DISCIPLINE SHALL REQUIRE A VOTE OF THE MAJORITY OF THE FULL METRO COUNCIL. A SIMPLE MAJORITY, 14 PEOPLE GET 14 PEOPLE TOGETHER HERE THAT DISAGREE WITH SOMETHING SOMEBODY HAS DONE, THINKS IT CAUSES DISREPUTE, THINKS IT'S THINKS I, THINKS IT'S MISCONDUCT. RIGHT. IF YOU PARKED IN MY PARKING SPACE, IS THAT MISCONDUCT? RIGHT. THERE'S ZERO DEFINITION OF THESE INCREDIBLY BROAD TERMS. AND WITH 14 PEOPLE, YOU CAN WITH NO DUE PROCESS RIGHTS YOU CAN BRING, YOU CAN BRING SOME OF THESE DISCIPLINARY ACTIONS UPON THEM. I THINK I APPRECIATE THE REST OF IT. I'D BE FINE WITH PASSING IT, BUT THAT'S NOT HOW IT'S WORDED CURRENTLY. I THINK THIS NEEDS A LOT MORE SCRUTINY BEFORE IT MOVES FORWARD. I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY WHO WORKED ON IT. I APPRECIATE YOUR INTENTION WAS IN THE RIGHT PLACE. SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES WORKED ON THIS AND VOTED ON THIS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I DO THINK THIS NEEDS A LITTLE MORE SCRUTINY, CLARITY AND IF ANYTHING, OVER THE PAST YEAR HAS TAUGHT US IS THAT WE NEED TO BE HYPER SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT WE MEAN BY THESE TERMS AND WHAT POWER WE HAVE OVER EACH OTHER. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT.

COUNCILWOMAN HOPKINS, THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO ECHO OFF OF MY COLLEAGUE. THIS TO ME IS A SET UP FOR A LOT OF MALICIOUS INTENT. IT COULD BE. YOU JUST NEVER KNOW. IN POLITICS, THERE IS NO CLEAR DEFINITION FOR WHAT MISCONDUCT LOOKS LIKE. AND UNTIL THE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT VOTED FOR THIS CAN COME UP WITH THAT, WHAT THAT MISCONDUCT LOOKS LIKE, AND THE DAY THAT THEY CAN WALK IN MY DISTRICT AND DEAL WITH MY CULTURE CAN TELL ME WHAT MISCONDUCT LOOKS LIKE, I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS. AND IN THE SAME BREATH, I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THIS BE SENT BACK TO COMMITTEE SO THEY CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN ANDERSON. I THINK THAT I WOULD LOVE TO SPEAK TO THIS. YEAH, BUT I THINK THE MOTION DICTATES THAT WE TAKE THE VOTE FIRST. IT THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. IF IT WAS ALREADY SECOND MOTION TO RECONSIDER IS DEBATABLE. NOT THE FIRST SENTENCE. I MEAN, TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU. YEAH. I THINK THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THEN I WOULD TAKE MY OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. THANK YOU. AND THEN AFTER ANDERSON, PRESIDENT WINKLER WILL IS IN THE QUEUE AND THEN IT WILL FOLLOW BY ON THE QUEUE. I WANT TO BE IN IT. KEVIN KRAMER I WOULD SUPPORT MY COLLEAGUES REQUEST THIS GO BACK TO COMMITTEE. THIS LEGISLATION IS NOT RIPE YET. I WOULD AGREE WITH THE FACT THAT WE NEED TO PUT IN DEFINITIONS THAT THAT GIVE US CLEAR FENCES AND CLEAR PARAMETERS OF YOUR NOSE AT TIMES. I'M POSSIBLY THE MOST UNPOPULAR PERSON ON COUNCIL, AND I ACCEPT THAT I'M NOT HERE TO MAKE FRIENDS. I'M HERE TO ARGUE AND FIGHT FOR MY DISTRICT. I CALL THE BALLS. THE WAY I SEE THEM, THE STRIKES, THE WAY I SEE THEM. IF THAT HURTS YOUR FEELINGS, I'M SORRY, BUT I'M NOT

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HOWEVER, THE MAJORITY DECIDES I. TOMORROW. IT MEANS A DIFFERENT THING. IF THERE'S A DIFFERENT MAJORITY. AND THAT SHOULD GIVE US ALL CAUSE FOR PAUSE AND FEAR. VERY DRACONIAN. THERE'S ALSO SOME OTHER FLAWS IN HERE. MY COLLEAGUE, COUNCILMAN PUCCINI TALKED ABOUT SECTION 11.08 AND.

WHAT WAS IT, 11.9? YEP. I WOULD AGREE WITH HIM THE CONCERNS REGARDING THOSE. I WOULD AGREE WITH HIM ON THE CONCERN OF THE SIMPLE. WE'RE ADDING A SIMPLE MAJORITY VOTE WHERE EVERYTHING ELSE IS A TWO THIRDS MAJORITY. IT MUST BE 18 OR MORE VOTES. IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE OF THIS, I WOULD ALSO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO 11.06 AND 11.06 TALKS ABOUT THE REMOVAL OF THE PRESIDENT AND HOW THAT'S CHANGING NOW. AND INITIALLY IT TALKS ABOUT IF 20 IF 12 COUNCIL MEMBERS EXECUTE A SWORN STATEMENT, A VOTE OF 20 OF 26 COUNCIL MEMBERS COULD REMOVE THE PRESIDENT. NOW, WHERE THAT CHANGES IS, SHOULD THE PRESIDENT REQUEST A HEARING ON HIS REMOVAL? NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN, IT NO LONGER TAKES 20 VOTES. IT NOW TAKES 18 VOTES. IF YOU READ THE LANGUAGE THERE, THAT'S A FLOOR. THAT'S AN INCONSISTENCY. AND IT NEVER SHOULD HAVE COME TO THIS COUNCIL WITH THAT INCONSISTENCY. IT'S INCONSISTENCY BEFORE US THAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED. WE NEED TO DEFINE THE AMBIGUITIES IN THIS THAT GIVE US ALL CLEAR DEFINITIONS. AT THE DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS, I TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW THIS DOMENT IS FLUID. IT'S LIKE WATER. THERE IS NO BASIS. I DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH WATER. I WANT CONCRETE, SOMETHING THAT CONCRETE TELLS ME WHAT IS DOABLE AND WHAT IS NOT DOABLE. WHAT WOULD CONSTITUTE AN OFFENSE TO THIS BODY OR BRING THIS BODY INTO DISREPUTE? WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT. I KNOW AT TIMES I SAY THINGS THAT YOU SAY, WOW, HOW THE HELL COULD HE SAY THAT? IT'S MY FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT? AS COUNCILMAN PICCININI POINTED OUT, IF THE 30,000 PEOPLE THAT I REPRESENT DON'T LIKE THE WAY THAT I TALK OR HOW I'M NOT WARM AND FUZZY, THEY CANNOT REELECT ME. I'VE BEEN HERE 16 YEARS, JUST WON REELECTION. I'LL BE HERE ANOTHER FOUR. I, YOU KNOW, CLEARLY AS GRUFF AS I AM, IT'S OKAY WITH MY 30,000 RESIDENTS. THE LAST THING I WANT IS FOR 20 SOMETHING OF YOU TO TURN AROUND AND SAY. WE NO LONGER LIKE YOU, OR HOW GRUFF YOU ARE, OR HOW CONFRONTATIONAL YOU CAN BE. AND THEREFORE WE FIND THAT YOUR LANGUAGE OR ANYTHING ELSE FALLS INTO DISREPUTE OR MIGHT MAKE YOU LOOK BAD. WELL, I DON'T CARE IF IT MAKES YOU LOOK BAD. THAT'S YOUR OWN EGO TALKING. WE ARE NOTHING MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE IN THIS AUDIENCE. WE HAVE THE ABILITY AND THE PRIVILEGE TO VOTE ON MATTERS AND TRY TO ADVANCE ISSUES BEFORE THE CITY, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE NO DIFFERENT THAN ANYONE ELSE WHO SAT IN THIS AUDIENCE HERE TODAY. AND SO IF I BRING DISREPUTE UPON YOU, I DON'T CARE IF I BRING DISREPUTE UPON THIS BODY, I DON'T CARE. I'M GOING TO SPEAK MY MIND. AND THAT'S WHAT SCARES ME ABOUT THIS LEGISLATION IS, YOU KNOW, LET ME BE ME. LET MY 30,000 RESIDENTS TELL ME IF I'M DOING A GOOD JOB OR NOT DOING A GOOD JOB. THANK YOU. MR. PRO TEM PRESIDENT PRO TEM, COUNCILMAN WINKLER, THANK YOU. AND COLLEAGUES, I'VE GOT NO ISSUE SENDING THIS BACK TO COMMITTEE. I JUST MAKE THREE QUICK POINTS. NUMBER ONE, IF WE DO SEND IT BACK TO COMMITTEE AND YOU'VE GOT THOUGHTS, I'D ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME TO THE COMMITTEE AND COME TALK ABOUT IT. NUMBER TWO, YOU SHOULD KNOW FUNCTIONALLY NOTHING IN THIS LEGISLATION ISN'T IN OUR RULES TODAY. SO ANY OF THE CONCERNS YOU HAVE ARE ALREADY GOVERNING US AS WE SPEAK, OKAY. AND HAVE BEEN GOVERNING US SINCE MERGER. SO THERE'S NOTHING NEW HERE THAT WAS ADDED WITH THE EXCEPTION OF EXPLICITLY STATING THE ALTERNATIVE DISCIPLINE, WHICH IS IN ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER. AND SO THE ONLY THING THE THIRD THING THAT I'LL SAY IS IF WE DO CHOOSE NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ALTERNATIVE FORMS OF DISCIPLINE, WE NEED NOT JUST REMOVE IT, BUT YOU NEED TO PUT SOME ALTERNATIVE IN BECAUSE OUR OTHER RULES SAY IF THERE'S NOT A RULE FOR IT, GO TO ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER. AND SO EVEN IF YOU REMOVE THIS SECTION, UNLESS YOU PUT IN AN ALTERNATIVE, YOU'RE BASICALLY PUTTING IT RIGHT BACK IN. BECAUSE IF WE WANT TO PURSUE ALTERNATIVE DISCIPLINE, IT REQUIRES A MAJORITY VOTE AND HAS THESE FOUR

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YES? MY COMMENT OR QUESTION HAD TO DO WITH THE ALTERNATIVE OR THE REMEDIATION. SO I'M LOOKING TO SEE HERE IF IT SAYS THAT REMEDIATION IS DETERMINED BY ROBERT'S RULES, BECAUSE I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING THAT. BECAUSE THAT WAS VERY UNCLEAR TO ME IS AS TO WHO WOULD BE DOING THE REMEDIATION. IS IT THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT? IS IT THE 14 MEMBERS THAT FILED THE COMPLAINT? IS IT THE ETHICS COMMISSION? WHO IS I? THAT'S A QUESTION. COUNCIL COUNCILMAN WINKLER I'M STILL TRYING TO FIND IT. YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND ANSWER THAT. YES, YES. COUNCILMAN PARKER, SO THE REFEREE TO ROBERT'S RULES IS BASICALLY THIS LANGUAGE IS PULLED FROM ROBERT'S RULES FUNCTIONALLY. OKAY. SO THAT THAT'S WHAT BASICALLY THE PROVISIONS ON ALTERNATIVE DISCIPLINE ARE. SOT'S BEING PULLED OUT OF THERE AND PUT IN HERE IN TERMS OF MAYBE I DON'T QUITE FOLLOW OF WHO WOULD DTHE REMEDIATION, I GUESS WHAT I THINK TECHNICALLY, WHAT ROBERT'S RULES SAY IS IA MAJORITY THINKS THERE'S AN INFRACTION AND RECOMMENDS REMEDIAL TRAINING, LETTER OF CENSURE OTHE PLIC APOLOG RIG. I TTH THIT STON'T WANT TO CONFUSE THE REFERENCE TO ROBERT'S RULES. IS THIS THIS IS IN ROBERT'S RULES, WHICH ARE SORT OF THE PREVAILING RULES THAT GOVERN US. IF NOT EXPLICITLY IN OUR RULES. ALL RIGHT. WELL, IT IT STILL IS VERY OPEN ENDED AND ELEMENTARY. SO I'D BE I'D FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IN HAVING THE ANSWERS TO THAT OR THE LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT EXPLICITLY EXPLAINS THAT.

THANKS. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN PARISH. RIGHT. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I JUST WANT TO REITERATE, AS I SAID IN OUR CAUCUS, AS ONE OF THE NEWEST COUNCIL PEOPLE THIS PROCESS HAS, I DO THINK THERE'S SOME ARCHAIC THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DEALT WITH. I SEE THE INTENTIONS HERE, BUT IT'S SO OPEN AND I DON'T SEE PEOPLE REALLY FOLLOWING ROBERT'S RULE ALL THE TIME WHEN THEY MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. AND THEN THE AS COUNCILWOMAN PARKER POINTED OUT, WE HAD A WHOLE ETHICS. AND I APPRECIATE APPRECIATE COUNCILMAN PIAGENTINI SPEAKING UP TO THIS. BUT IN THAT PROCESS, IT JUST SEEMED CONVOLUTED AND HOW THIS ALL PLAYED OUT. AND I DO THINK THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE CLARITY ON WHAT THIS IS, BECAUSE IF THIS IS THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM AS TO ATTACK PEOPLE THAT WE DON'T LIKE, OR JUST BECAUSE I, I'M AGAINST THAT. I'M ALSO AGAINST I'M FOR FREE SPEECH. SO EVEN WHEN OUR OUR FOLKS COME HERE, OUR CITIZENS COME HERE AND THEY SPEAK TO US ABOUT WHAT MATTERS TO THEM. AND I'VE SEEN PEOPLE GET MORE AND MORE SENSITIVE. WHAT HAPPENS NEXT? CAN WILL OUR COMMUNITY CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO US AND TELL US THEIR FEELINGS AND WHAT THEY NEED TO HAPPEN? SO I THINK THIS IS A DANGEROUS PRECEDENCE WITHOUT HAVING MORE CLARITY, AND THAT'S WHY I'M AGAINST IT. NOT NOW. THE PRESIDENT VOTE REMOVING THE PRESIDENT. I THINK THAT PART MAKES SENSE, BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THERE'S A PART TO A WAY TO SUPPORT THAT AND NOT SUPPORT THE REST. I AGREE WITH IT BEING SENT BACK, AND I ALSO AGREE SOME OF US WITH IDEAS SHOULD COME TO THE COMMITTEE AND I WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT PROCESS. COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS, THANK YOU.

I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION AND THIS MAY BE THE TWO OF PRESIDENT WINKLER OR YOURSELF. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE SO OFTEN AND, YOU KNOW, AND FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS, I'VE NOTICED THAT THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF STUFF FROM THE PAST THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT BACK UP. YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO SAY, LIKE THE MASK AND IF THIS WAS ALREADY IN HER FOR MISCONDUCT, WHY ARE WE BRINGING THIS BACK UP IF IT'S ALREADY IN THERE, IF IT'S NOT BROKE, DON'T FIX IT. AND IF IT'S BROKE, THEN LET'S TALK ABOUT WHO BROKE IT AND LET'S MOVE FROM THERE. BUT TO JUST BE PUTTING STUFF IN PLACE, IT'S NOT A GOOD LOOK. SO, COUNCILMAN, MAY I REPLY, YES, COUNCILMAN WINKLER YES. SO WE SO ONE WE'RE GOING THROUGH JUST UPDATING THE POLICY PROCEDURE. THAT'S WHY I LIKE THE OPEN

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SO WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT ON THE FLOOR TO SEND IT BACK, A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO SEND IT BACK TO COMMITTEE. AND SO WE'RE IN DISCUSSION ON THAT. AND IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION ON SENDING IT BACK, THEN WE CAN TAKE THE VOTE TO TAKE IT BACK. WELL, YEAH. HOLD ON, BECAUSE I DID IT. PROBABLY A COUPLE PEOPLE BACK. I MADE. BUT TO GO BACK TOR QUESTION, IF I CAN ANSWER IT. SO COUNCILMAN WEBER IS THE RULES COMMITTEE. SO IS RIGHT. SO, SO IS THIS. JUST LET ME KNOW WHEN THIS IS BROUGHT UP OR IF IT'S JUST THE RULE THAT AND THIS IS FOR CLARITY, BECAUSE I'M SURE THAT I'M PROBABLY NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS CONCERNS ABOUT THI. RIGHT. IF IT'S JUST RULES THAT WE'RE BRINGING UP OR THAT WE WANT TO REVISE, OR WE WANT TO GET THE COUY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO LOOK INTO IS, YOU KNOW, GIVE ME THE INSTRUCTIONS FOR THAT. SO, MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBER WEBER IS WORKING ON THE CAUCUS RULES. THESE ARE THE COUNCIL RULES, EITHER ONE. BUT THAT'S THE ANSWER TO THAT'S WHY COUNCILMAN WEBER IS WORKING ON CAUCUS RULES, WHICH IS JUST SOMETHING DIFFERENT. OKAY. RIGHT. SO FOR THIS, CAN YOU ANSWER MY QUESTION AS FAR AS SO DID SOMEBODY JUST PULL THIS OUT OF THE RULES AND JUST SAY, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, FOCUS ON THIS PARTICULAR RULE RIGHT HERE, OR WE HAVE SEVERAL RULES. YEAH. COUNCILMAN, I THINK I ANSWERED THAT WE HAVE TO UPDATE THE VACANCY. THE LEGISLATURE MADE A CHANGE TO 67 C, SO WE HAVE TO UPDATE THE VACANCY RULE. THAT'S WHAT WAS THE PROMPTING EVENT. OKAY. YEAH. SO THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. DID I GET A SECOND? SECOND. THOSE IN FAVOR ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON SENDING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED EYES HAVE IT. IT'LL BE SENT BACK TO COMMITTEE. COUNCILWOMAN, A POINT OF ORDER. YES, I WOULD AS THE SPONSOR. I WOULD REQUEST THAT WE HOLD THE VACANCIES RULE PRIMARILY BECAUSE I THINK IF YOU PASSED IT NOW WITHOUT ADDRESSING THE OTHER ISSUE, YOU'RE SORT OF LIKE DECOUPLING SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE THERE. SO IT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE HAVE THOSE TWO DISCUSSIONS TOGETHER VERSUS SEPARATING THEM. JUST A THOUGHT. CAN YOU PUT IT IN A MOTION? I'M REQUESTING IT BE HELD AS THE SPONSOR. YOU'RE JUST HOLDING IT AS A SPONSOR. GOOD DEAL. SO. IT'LL BE SENT BACK TO COMMITTEE. ITEM NUMBER 46. COUNCILMAN, I AM RELINQUISHING THE CHAIR BACK TO YOU. SO, NO, I MEAN. MADAM CLERK, A READING OF ITEM 48. APPROPRIATING $1,500 FROM DISTRICT 15 NEIGHBORHOOD

[48. CONDF111224BLC15     APPROPRIATING $1,500 FROM DISTRICT 15 NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS, THROUGH THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET, TO THE BACKSIDE LEARNING CENTER, INC. FOR THEIR 18TH ANNUAL BENEFIT FOR THE BACKSIDE. 11/12/24 Labor, Economic Development, and Appropriations Committee  Forwarded Without A Recommendation Sponsors: Jennifer Chappell (D-15) ]

COLLEAGUES, THE REASON THIS THING KIND OF WENT A LITTLE SIDEWAYS, A LITTLE BIT IN COMMITTEE IS, IS THAT THE ORIGINAL PACKET APPLICATION DID NOT MEET MUSTER WITH THE FINANCIAL OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR NOR OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY. AND SO THAT IS WHY THE COMMITTEE CHOSE TO DO WHAT THEY DID. AND SO THAT HAS BEEN RECTIFIED. AND SO I WILL BE A YES VOTE TONIGHT.

THANK YOU. ON THIS ITEM. THANK YOU. COLLEAGUES. SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN QUEUE. THIS IS A PDF

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[49. O-241-24     AN ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING $50,000 FROM DISTRICT 6 NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS, THROUGH THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET, TO THE JACKET NATION, INC. FOR GYM EQUIPMENT FOR CENTRAL HIGH SCHOOL. 11/12/24 Labor, Economic Development, and Appropriations Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: May 7, 2025 Sponsors: Phillip T. Baker (D-6) ]

[50. O-247-24     AN ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING $5,000 $31,250 FROM NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER: $5,000 EACH FROM DISTRICT 4, 6, 22, 23, AND 24; $2,000 FROM DISTRICT 12; $1,000 EACH FROM DISTRICTS 10, 13, AND 17; $750 FROM DISTRICT 15; AND $500 FROM DISTRICT 5; THROUGH THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET, TO JUNIOR ACHIEVEMENT OF KENTUCKIANA, INC. FOR JUNIOR ACHIEVEMENT’S CURRICULUM MATERIALS (AS AMENDED). 11/12/24 Labor, Economic Development, and Appropriations  Amended; Recommended for Approval Action Required By: May 7, 2025 Sponsors: Robin Engel (R-22), Jecorey Arthur (I-4), Phillip T. Baker (D-6), Jeff Hudson (R-23), Madonna Flood (D-24), Rick Blackwell (D-12), Pat Mulvihill (D-10), Dan Seum, Jr. (R-13), Markus Winkler (D-17), Jennifer Chappell (D-15), Donna Purvis (D-5)]

THAT'S WHAT THEIR GOAL IS. THIS YEAR. THEY NOW ARE MOVING UP FROM THE ELEMENTARY OR THE YOUNGER OUR YOUNGER GENERATION TO OUR YOUNG ADULTS. SO CAN YOU IMAGINE IF THESE STUDENTS GET HIT BY J.R. IN THEIR EARLY DAYS OF LIFE AND THEIR ELEMENTARY LEVEL SCHOOL, AND THEN THEY GET HIT LATER IN LIFE? THEY REALLY HAVE A GOOD CHANCE TO BE A MEANINGFUL, GOOD CHANCE OF LEARNING THESE SKILLS THAT J.R. PUTS ON. IT'S AN OUTSTANDING ORGANIZATION. I THINK EVERYBODY AGREES THAT ALL OF OUR STUDENTS THAT GO THROUGH THIS PROGRAM ARE BENEFITED BY THE WORK THAT THEY DO. AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL THE YEARS OF YOUR SUPPORT FOR J.R. YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN ENGEL. COUNCILMAN BENSON, THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDEN. DONATE $1,000 FOR ROBIN. THANK YOU. COLLEAGUES, IS THERE ANYBODY, COUNCILWOMAN PARISH. RIGHT. YES. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR THIS AMAZING PACKET THAT SHOWS ME WE HAVE IN DISTRICT THREE, 460 STUDENTS PARTICIPATING. SO OUR CONTRIBUTION WILL BE 2460 2460. I'M SORRY. YOU'RE GOING TO TEST OUR MATH SKILLS HERE. 2460 COUNCILWOMAN SHANKLIN. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. AS I WENT THROUGH THE PACKAGE, MY DISTRICT HAS MORE KIDS IN JUNIOR ACHIEVEMENT THAN ANY COUNCILPERSON HERE. AND I THINK THAT'S GREAT. THAT MEANS MY KIDS ARE LEARNING A LOT MORE SO. BUT I. PRICE. I'LL GIVE 2000 2000. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN SHANKLIN. COUNCILMAN HOPKINS. THANK YOU.

I'M GOING TO GIVE 2000 FROM DISTRICT ONE. THANK YOU. ARE YOU IN THE QUEUE? ARE YOU IN THE QUEUE ON THE RIGHT ITEM? COUNCILMAN BENSON AND COUNCILWOMAN HOPKINS IN MY QUEU.

I DO NOT HAVE THAT QUEUE. OKAY. GO AHEAD. THERE WE GO. COUNCILMAN BACHON. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. COUNCILMAN INGLE, YOU'RE GOING TO BE GREATLY MISSED. AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS WITH JUNIOR ACHIEVEMENT. AND AS I LOOK AT DISTRICT 25, WE HAVE 620 STUDENTS IN DISTRICT 25

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I'VE GOT 4630 IS WHAT I'VE GOT. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN RUBY, GLAD TO KNOW YOUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL MATH IS WORKING VERY WEL. SO I'D LIKE TO PUT IN 1500. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S RIGHT.

COUNCILMAN KRAMER. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I'M DOING ABSOLUTELY NO FANCY MATH. THANK YOU. $1,700. OH, OKAY. 1700. HOLD ON. LET ME THAT PUTS US AT 49 TO 230. 30. EXACTLY. PERFECT.

AND YOU HAVE $770 LEFT OR. I'M SORRY, COUNCILWOMAN PURVIS. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE ME LOOK CHEAP, SO I'M CHEAP. YOU'RE FILLING THE POT, BUT A TOTAL. I'VE ALREADY GIVEN 500, SO I'M GOING TO GIVE A DOLLAR PER STUDENT A TOTAL OF $1,118. SO YOU'RE ADDING 600. YOU'RE ADDING 600, $618. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO IT LEAVES $152 COLLEAGUES. SO YOU, COUNCILMAN, COUNCILMAN BAKER. THANK YOU. PRESIDENT. SO, YOU KNOW, PHIL LOVES THE KIDS. SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO MY ORIGINAL $5,000 TO $5,152. PERFECT. ALRIGHT. AND WE CALL IT EVEN COLLEAGUES. THAT FILLS IT AT $50,000. SO THANK YOU ALL. CAN I GET AN AMEND A MOTION FOR THAT AMENDMENT, PLEASE? MOTION SECOND ARGENTINI CAN I GET A SECOND? SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BACHON. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. THE AMENDED ORDINANCE IS BEFORE US. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING? NONE. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE REQUIRING A ROLL CALL VOTE. PLEASE OPEN THE VOTING. MADAM CLERK. MR. PRESIDENT, YOU HAVE 22 YES VOTES. THANK YOU. AND, COUNCILMAN ENGEL, WE'RE HAPPY TO SEND YOU OFF WITH THE FULL

[51. O-262-24     AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 100, SERIES 2024, RELATING TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2024-2025 OPERATING BUDGET, ORDINANCE NO. 080, SERIES 2023, RELATING TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2023-2024 CAPITAL BUDGET AND ORDINANCES NO. 168, SERIES 2021, ORDINANCE NO. 182, SERIES 2022, ORDINANCE NO. 116, SERIES 2024, AND ORDINANCE NO. 119, SERIES 2024, RELATING TO VARIOUS ROUNDS OF THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN (“ARP”) LOCAL FISCAL RECOVERY FUNDING TO VARIOUS LOUISVILLE METRO GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENTS TO ADDRESS THE CONTINUED IMPACT OF COVID-19 ON THE ECONOMY, PUBLIC HEALTH, STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, INDIVIDUALS, AND BUSINESSES, BY IDENTIFYING SELECT ARP FUNDED PROJECTS TO SWAP WITH ELIGIBLE FISCAL YEAR 2024-2025 PUBLIC SAFETY OPERATING EXPENDITURES AS ALLOWED BY THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY (AS AMENDED). 11/14/2024 Budget Committee  Amended; Recommended for Approval Action Required By: May 7, 2025 Sponsors: Rick Blackwell (D-12) ]

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MR. PRESIDENT, YOU HAVE 22 YES VOTES. THANK YOU. THE ORDINANCE IS ADOPTED. MADAM CLERK, A

[52. AP102924DT     APPOINTMENT OF DIONNE TEMPLETON TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND BOARD. (TERM EXPIRES DECEMBER 31, 2027) 11/7/24 Metro Council  Tabled 10/29/24 Government Oversight/Audit and Appointments Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: April 24, 2025 Sponsors: ]

[53. RP111224CM     REAPPOINTMENT OF CHRISTIE MCCRAVY TO THE URBAN RENEWAL COMMISSION. (TERM EXPIRES JUNE 30, 2027) 11/12/24 Government Oversight/Audit and Appointments Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: May 7, 2025 Sponsors: ]

THIS APPOINTMENT IS BEFORE US. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILMAN ADKERSON? THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THIS CAME OUT OF THE GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABILITY COMMITTEE. UNANIMOUS EXCEPT FOR ONE VOTE BEING PRESENT. AND THAT'S WHY IT'S BEFORE US TODAY. COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL WAS THAT PRESENT VOTE. AND AS SUCH, SHE MAY WANT TO DISCUSS IT FURTHER. OTHER THAN THAT, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOUR SUPPORT OF THIS, OF THIS APPOINTMENT. THANK YOU. OKAY. COUNCILMAN PURVIS, I THINK YOU'RE IN THE QUEUE FOR THIS ITEM. I AM. THANK YOU. I WISH TO ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE TO REAPPOINT MISS MCCREEVY TO THE URBAN RENEWAL COMMISSION. HER? THIS BOARD IS NEEDED FOR PROJECTS IN UNDERSERVED AREAS. AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN DISINVESTE. SHE HAS SENT ME A REPORT OF SOME OF THE RECENT PROJECTS. SO THIS COMMISSION IS NEEDED. I UNDERSTAND MY COLLEAGUES HAS SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THEIR EXISTENCE, BUT I THINK IT WOULD IT WOULD BE A MISTAKE TO LOOK AT POSSIBLY DISBANDING THIS BOARD. SO I'M ASKING ALL MY COLLEAGUES TO PLEASE VOTE TO REAPPOINT HER TO THIS BOARD. THIS BOARD IS DEFINITELY NEEDED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN PURVIS.

COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL, THANK YOU. I DON'T THINK IT'S ANY SURPRISE THAT I VOTED PRESENT ON THIS, AND I WAS THE ONE PERSON TO DO THAT. AND I WANT TO EXPLAIN WHY I DID BEFORE I EXPLAIN WHAT THE URBAN RENEWAL COMMISSION DOES. FIRST OFF, IF YOU GO TO THE WEBSITE AND THIS SHOULD BE INFORMATION THAT'S TRANSPARENT TO ALL OF LOUISVILLE, THE URBAN RENEWAL COMMISSION IS UNDER DEVELOP LOUISVILLE'S COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT OFFICE. NEITHER OF THOSE THINGS EXIST ANYMORE. IT OFTEN ALSO REFERENCES DESIGNATED URBAN RENEWAL AREAS. THERE ARE NO MAPS TO SHOW WHAT THOSE DESIGNATED URBAN RENEWAL AREAS ARE. BOTH OF THOSE THINGS WERE VERY PROBLEMATIC, AND I ALSO DID NOT HAVE THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED. I WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT WHEN I HEAR THE TERM URBAN RENEWAL, THE URBANIST IN ME SHUDDERS. IT IS NOT A TERM THAT I THAT I LIKE BECAUSE IT IS SOMETHING THAT COMPLETELY TORE APART OUR CITIES, OUR CITY OF LOUISVILLE, ESPECIALLY IN THE 1970S. THIS WAS ACROSS THE UNITED STATES. TO GET BLIGHT OUT. IT IS A BIG REASON WHY WE HAVE SO MANY SURFACE PARKING LOTS IN OUR DOWNTOWN. IT IS WHY WE HAVE THE NINTH STREET DIVIDE.

EVERY TIME I DRIVE INTO THE CITY OF LOUISVILLE, INTO THE CITY HALL, I ALWAYS LOOK AT THE STREET LIGHTS. THAT WAS ONE OF OUR CROWN JEWELS OF URBAN RENEWAL. AND THOSE STREET LIGHTS ARE GOING UP AND DOWN SOME SELECT STREETS, SUCH AS SIXTH AND SEVENTH STREETS. IT'S INTERESTING TO ME THAT WE VOTED FOR AN ANTI-DISPLACEMENT TOOL WITHOUT CARING TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT THE URBAN RENEWAL COMMISSION DOES, BECAUSE THIS IS URBAN RENEWAL IS SOMETHING THAT WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR EXTREME DISPLACEMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S ANY ISSUE IN US ASKING WHAT THEY DO AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT THEY DO. SO I WANT TO THANK THEA BOWMAN, WHO MET WITH ME, AND SHE IS THE METRO STAFF ADVISOR FOR THE URBAN RENEWAL COMMISSION AND FOR MY COLLEAGUES WHO WOULD LIKE TO LEARN ABOUT WHAT THIS BOARD IS SO THEY CAN MAKE AN INFORMED

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BUT THE APPOINTMENT PROCESS IS JUST THIS IS. YES, MY COLLEAGUE IS CORRECT. YOU SHOULD UNDERSTAND THE BOARD. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IS THIS WE HAVE TO APPOINT SOMEONE TO BE ON THERE. IF MY COLLEAGUE OR ONE OF YOU DISAGREES WITH THIS COMMISSION BEING IN PLACE AND FILE AN ORDINANCE TO TRY TO TRY TO DO AWAY WITH IT. BUT TONIGHT'S VOTE IS VERY SIMPLE.

IT'S NOT ABOUT WHETHER THEY DO A GOOD JOB OR A BAD JOB. IT'S ABOUT GETTING SOMEONE IN THERE TO DO THE JOB. AND IF ANYONE HAS ANY REASON TO BELIEVE THAT MISS MCGREEVY IS NOT THE RIGHT PERSON FOR THIS JOB, THEN SPEAK UP NOW. IF NOT, YOU SHOULD BE A YES VOTE AND WE SHOULD MOVE ON. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN ACKERSON. COUNCILWOMAN SHANKLIN, I WILL BE VOTING YES, BUT I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. I WANT TO KNOW. IS IT A CONFLICT OF INTEREST TO BE ON BOTH BOARDS, THE HOUSING TRUST AND GIVING MONEY TO THE URBAN LEAGUE? I MEAN, THE URBAN RENEWAL, BECAUSE I KNOW SHE'S ON THE HOUSING TRUST, BUT THEY GIVE MONEY TO THE URBAN RENEWAL. SO IS THAT A CONFLICT OF INTEREST OR IS IT NOT? SO DEFER THAT QUESTION, MAYBE TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. COUNCIL MEMBERS. THAT'S NOT A QUESTION. WE HAVE THE ANSWER TO. AS WE SIT HERE TODAY. IF IT'S A CONFLICT THAT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND BOARD STATUTE HAS SOME VERY SPECIFIC CONFLICT OF INTEREST PROVISIONS IN IT THAT SPELL OUT ABOUT BOARD MEMBERS SEEKING FUNDING FROM THAT BOARD. BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND THEY SEEM TO CONTEMPLATE BOARD MEMBERS SEEKING MONEY FROM THE FUND AND TRY TO ADDRESS THE CONFLICT SITUATION PROACTIVELY IN THAT ORDINANCE, YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT WHETHER THERE'S A CONFLICT. IF SOMEBODY SITS ON BOTH THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND AND THE URBAN SERVICES FOR URBAN RENEWAL, AND WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT QUESTION. WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT MORE SPECIFICALLY THE MISSIONS AND HOW THOSE TWO THINGS WOULD WOULD INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE ORDINANCES. WE CAN'T REALLY SPEAK TO THAT TONIGHT. OKAY. NOW, I WORK WITH WHISKEY FOR YEARS. SHE'S A DARN GOOD WORKER. I JUST WAS CONCERNED BECAUSE THERE WERE TWO BOARDS THAT WERE SO CLOSE TO EACH OTHER. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN BAKE. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. MINE IS NOT NOT A QUESTION. IT'S JUST MORE OF A COMMENT. AND IT'S NOT DIRECTED TO ANYONE. I JUST WANT TO. AND I COMPLETELY AGREE. WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THESE BOARDS, BUT I WANT TO JUST EDUCATE MY COLLEAGUES LIKE THAT BLIGHT THAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT WAS BLACK FOLKS. LIKE WHEN

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I'M ENCOURAGING A YES VOTE FOR THIS PERSON, BUT I DON'T WANT TO LOSE CONTEXT OF WHAT URBAN RENEWAL AND HOW THE UPWARD MOBILITY OF BLACK FOLKS AND PEOPLE WEST OF NINTH STREET AND WHAT THAT HAS DONE EVEN IN 2024. SO JUST MAKE SURE YOU'RE CONSCIOUS WHEN YOU'RE MAKING THESE DECISIONS GOING FORWARD. BECAUSE I'M, YOU KNOW, MY TIME IS PRETTY MUCH UP. BUT URBAN RENEWAL AND COMMUNITIES AND PEOPLE WHO LOOK LIKE ME ARE THAT WORD IS ALMOST A TRIGGER, YOU KNOW. SO JUST MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE UP HERE AND I'M NOT EVEN IMPLYING THAT YOU'RE NOT. I'M JUST ONLY REMINDING OF WHAT URBAN RENEWAL DID TO OUR COMMUNITIES, WHAT IT DID TO PEOPLE WHO LOOK LIKE US. AND IT HAD NO YOU CAN FRAME IT, BOX IT, PUT A BOW ON IT, BUT IT WAS A RACIST POLICY TO DESTROY NEIGHBORHOODS AND DESTROY UPWARD MOBILITY. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU. SEEING NO ONE ELSE. AND COUNCILWOMAN SHANKLIN, I DID JUST WANT TO ADD ONE PIECE OF CLARITY TO YOUR QUESTION. THIS IS A REAPPOINTMENT. SO THAT MAY INDIRECTLY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT ELIGIBILITY. SO COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS OKAY, SO THIS IS I AGREE. I AGREE THAT SHE DOES AN EXCELLENT JOB. I WORKED WITH HER FOR YEARS. I JUST WAS CONCERNED ABOUT SOME OF THE IF YOU LOOK AT BOARDS, IT'S THE SAME PEOPLE ON ALL THE BOARDS. AND THAT'S MY CONCERN.

THANK YOU. SO IS SHE JUST A MEMBER ON THE BOARD? DOES SHE CHAIR THE BOARD THEN? I KNOW THAT SHE DOES CHAIR THE AFFORDABLE TRUST FUND BOARD, BUT I WAS JUST CURIOUS ON DOES SHE JUST SERVE ON THIS BOARD? DOES ANYBODY KNOW? COUNCILMAN CHAPLIN, DO YOU KNOW COUNCILMAN CHAPLIN? YOU WOULD LIKE TO REPL? THIS IS A REAPPOINTMENT. SO SHE HAS BEEN ON THE BOARD BEFORE. I CAN'T SPEAK TO HER INVOLVEMENT ON OTHER BOARDS. I CAN SAY THAT THIS ONE, THEY KIND OF COMBINED LAND BANK AUTHORITY, URBAN RENEWAL COMMISSION AND THE VACANT PROPERTY REVIEW INTO ONE BOARD. SO THAT'S THAT STATUTE. BUT I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT AND THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND CONNECT. AND IF THEY HAVE ANY OVERLAPPING RESPONSIBILITIES. SO I THINK THAT THIS IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD DIVE INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE. OKAY.

THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, TRAVIS, YOU'D LIKE TO WEIGH IN? I JUST I CAN ANSWER THAT PREVIOUS QUESTION AS TO IF SHE'S THE BOARD CHAIR TO THE BOARD POSITION. YES, YES. IS SHE THE CHAIR OF THE BOARD MYSELF? SHE IS NOT THE CHAIR. SHE IS A MEMBER. SHE'S ONE OF THE TWO MEMBERS. AND THEN WE HAVE A CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR. THANK YOU. SEEING NO ONE. YES. EXCUSE ME.

EXCUSE ME. HOLLY HOPKINS WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. THIS DOESN'T GO DIRECTLY TO COUNCILWOMAN SHANKLIN'S CONFLICT QUESTION, BUT LMCO. 32.001, SUBSECTION B A PROVIDES THAT A PERSON HEREINAFTER APPOINTED TO SERVE ON A BOARD OR COMMISSION WHOSE APPOINTMENT IS SUBJECT TO METRO COUNCIL APPROVAL, SHALL NOT AT THE SAME TIME SERVE ON ANOTHER BOARD OR COMMISSION WHOSE APPOINTMENT IS SUBJECT TO METRO COUNCIL APPROVAL. I'D LIKE THANK YOU AND HOLLY, CAN YOU ANSWER? DOES BEING ON THE BOARD THE CHAIR BEING THE CHAIR OF THAT BOARD, IS THAT AN APPOINTMENT? THAT'S UP, THAT'S SUBJECT TO OUR APPROVAL, OR IS THAT AN APPOINTMENT BY THE MAYOR WITHOUT OUR APPROVAL THAT I CANNOT ANSWER AS I SIT HERE RIGHT NOW. OKAY. YOU KNOW, MR. PRESIDENT, I COULD PROVIDE A BIT OF CONTEXT HERE. ACTUALLY, I THINK MR. PRESIDENT. SO I BELIEVE MISS GRAY IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. DIRECTOR. THANK YOU. HOUSING TRUST FUND. I DON'T THINK SHE'S ACTUALLY ON THE BOARD. I THINK THAT'S CORRECT. SHE MIGHT HAVE SORT OF A, YOU KNOW, A SEAT BY VIRTUE OF HER DIRECTORSHIP, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE SHE'S AN APPOINTED MEMBER. COUNCILWOMAN. JACQUELYN, I DIDN'T WANT TO OPEN UP A CAN OF WORMS, WHICH IT IS, BUT I DI.

BUT THERE'S SO MANY QUALIFIED AFRICAN AMERICANS OUT HERE THAT COULD GO ON SOME OF THESE

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THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY. BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO SAY IT BECAUSE I MISSED THE LAST COMMITTEE MEETING. BUT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DO VET THIS PROCESS. I THINK THIS IS NOT PERSONAL AGAINST CHRISTY MCRAVEN. I THINK SHE'S AMAZING. BUT WE DO HAVE TO EXPLORE ALL OPTIONS. AND I THINK SENDING IT BACK AND SEEING IF MISS MCCRAVEY IS THAT INVESTED IN THIS PART OF IT. I ALSO WANT TO ECHO THAT I'M STILL LEARNING, BUT IF THIS COMMITTEE OR BOARD ISN'T FUNCTIONAL, ISN'T SERVING ANYTHING, THE PROCESS SOUNDS LIKE FROM COUNCILMAN ATKINSON IS TO BE TO GET AN ORDINANCE AND GET RID OF IT. I'M I'M I WOULD SUPPORT THAT AS WELL IF IT'S NOT SERVING THE PURPOSES AND JUST JUST WHAT ACTUALLY WHAT MR. BAKER SAID IS VERY TRUE.

COUNCILMAN BAKER IS ON THE MONE. HOPE SIX URBAN RENEWAL, ALL THAT STUFF. I HAD NO IDEA ABOUT THIS UNTIL TODAY. BUT THAT'S WHY YOU SHOULDN'T MISS MEETINGS. I TRY NOT TO, BUT THANK YOU. I THINK WE SHOULD SEND IT BACK AS WELL. THANK YOU. IS THAT IN THE FORM OF A MOTION? YES, THAT'S A MOTION TO SEND IT BACK. PLEASE. BEFORE YOU, I WOULD JUST COMMENT ON THIS. REALIZE THIS. THESE FOLKS ARE VETTED BY THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND SENT TO US. WE DON'T PICK THESE FOLKS. WE'RE HERE TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE, PLAIN AND SIMPLE. AND SO THERE'S NOT A SINGLE MEMBER OF THIS BODY THAT'S REMISS FOR NOT CATCHING THIS ONE LITTLE GLITCH. YES. THANK YOU. PLAIN AND SIMPLE. SO I WOULD SECOND AND I WOULD SUPPORT THE MOTION. SEND IT BACK AND GET THE ANSWERS YOU GUYS WANT PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE EYES HAVE IT. NO. OPPOSED OKAY.

BUT I THINK THE AYES HAVE IT. WE'LL SEND THIS BACK TO COMMITTEE. MADAM CLERK, A

[54. RP111224DS     REAPPOINTMENT OF DANA SPENCER TO THE URBAN RENEWAL COMMISSION. (TERM EXPIRES JUNE 30, 2027) 11/12/24 Government Oversight/Audit and Appointments Committee  Recommended for Approval Action Required By: May 7, 2025 Sponsors: ]

TERM EXPIRES JUNE 30TH, 2027. READ IN FULL MOTION TO APPROVE MOTION BY COUNCILMAN ENGEL, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BAKER. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILMAN ANDERSON, I DON'T THINK THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF DISCUSSION HERE. THIS IS ANOTHER URBAN RENEWAL COMMISSION BOARD APPOINTMENT.

YOU NOTICE VOTE, EXCEPT FOR ONE PRESENT VOTE. I THINK WE BEAT A DEAD HORSE IN THIS. UNLESS SOMEONE ELSE HAS A REASON THAT THERE MIGHT BE A CONFLICT HERE. I THINK THAT WE SHOULD SUPPORT THIS AND MOVE ON. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION HEARING NONE. THIS IS AN APPOINTMENT ALLOWING FOR A VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. THE APPOINTMENT IS ADOPTED. MADAM CLERK. A READING OF ITEM

[55. O-175-24     AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTIONS 1.2.2 AND 4.1.2 OF THE LOUISVILLE METRO LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE (“LDC”) REGARDING FACTORY BUILT HOUSING (CASE NO. 23-LDC-0004) (AS AMENDED). 11/12/24 Planning and Zoning Committee Amended; Recommended for Approval 10/29/24 Planning and Zoning Committee Held 10/15/24 Planning and Zoning Committee Held 9/10/24  Planning and Zoning Committee Tabled 8/27/24  Planning and Zoning Committee Held 8/13/24  Planning and Zoning Committee Held Action Required By:  February 2025 Sponsors: Madonna Flood (D-24) ]

READ IN FULL. THANK YOU. CAN I GET A MOTION AND SECOND FOR APPROVAL? MOTION BY COUNCILMAN PIAGENTINI. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN ENGEL. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILWOMAN FLOOD THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THE PROPOSED CHANGES REGARDING FACTORY BUILT HOUSING PURSUANT TO RESOLUTION THE TITLE MY LOUISVILLE HOME PLAN AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION DIRECTIVE IN DECEMBER OF 2023 FOR NEW STANDARDS FOR FACTORY BUILT HOMES, ALSO MANUFACTURED MODULAR AND TINY HOME STANDARDS WERE EITHER TWEAKED OR CREATED DURING THIS PROCESS. MANUFACTURED AND MODULAR HOMES ARE NOT MOBILE HOMES, SINCE TECHNICALLY MOBILE HOMES HAVE NOT BEEN BUILT SINCE JUNE OF 1976. MANUFACTURED HOMES ARE REGULATED BY THE US DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT UNDER THE MANUFACTURED HOME CONSTRUCTION AND SAFETY STANDARDS, COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS THE HUD CODE. THEY WERE ALSO UPDATED IN 2021. MANUFACTURED HOMES ARE INSPECTED BY FEDERALLY APPROVED THIRD PARTY VENDORS AT THE CONSTRUCTION FACILITY. THE KENTUCKY REVISED STATUTES DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN MANUFACTURED HOMES AND QUALIFIED MANUFACTURED HOMES CONSTRUCTED AFTER 2002. ALL QUALIFIED MANUFACTURED HOMES HAVE STRICTER DESIGN REQUIREMENTS AND MUST BE

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WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR THE DESIGN THEIR DESIGNEE TO APPROVE A FACADE LESS THAN 24FT.

IF THE WIDTH OF THE LOT NECESSITATES A FACADE WITH LESS THAN THE PROPOSED WIDTH AND RESULTING IN DESIGN CONSISTENT WITH THE SCALE AND PATTERN OF DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THOSE FORM, DISTRICTS. ALSO, THE MINIMUM SITE SIDE YARD SETBACK SHALL BE FIVE FOOT IF REQUIRED. SETBACKS OF THE FORM DISTRICT ARE GREATER THAN FIVE FOOT THAN THE MORE RESTRICTIVE STANDARD SHALL APPLY. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE REQUIRING A ROLL CALL. VOTE. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE OPEN THE VOTING. FOR THE PURPOSE. DID YOU WANT ME TO RECORD A VOTE FOR YOU? YES. THANK YOU. YES. MR. PRESIDENT, YOU HAVE 20. YES VOTES. THANK YOU. THE ORDINANCE IS ADOPTED. MADAM CLERK. READING OF ITEM 56,

[56. O-220-24     AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE ZONING OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 12312 TAYLORSVILLE ROAD CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 4.38 ACRES AND BEING IN LOUISVILLE METRO (CASE NO. 24ZONE0077). 11/7/24 Metro Council  Held 10/24/24  Metro Council Held 10/15/24  Planning and Zoning Committee Recommended for Approval Action Required By:  December 5, 2024 Sponsors: Madonna Flood (D-24) ]

THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. LIKE I SAID IN CAUCUS, I REALLY. 60 YEARS AGO, WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL, ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS TAUGHT AT INFRASTRUCTURE WAS TAKEN CARE OF BY GOVERNMENT.

GOVERNMENT IS SUPPOSED TO BE RESPONSIBLE. AND I HERE EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN IN OFFICE 22 YEARS, PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT TRAFFIC JAMS, GRIDLOCK AND ALL THAT STUFF, AND I TRY TO LISTEN TO THEM AND TRY TO TELL PEOPLE EVERY TIME WE HAVE A ZONING CASE, ARE WE IMPROVING THE TRAFFIC SITUATION WHEN WE HAVE A JAM AND STUFF GOING IN HERE, IT'S ON TAYLORSVILLE ROAD. SPEED LIMIT IS 55 MILES AN HOUR. THE HIGHWAY GOES FROM TWO LANES TO FOUR LANES. THE TWO LANES. AND IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T THINK THAT SOMEBODY'S SLOWING DOWN AND GOING TO TURN INTO A PLACE WHEN THEY'RE GOING 55 MILES AN HOUR AND SOMEBODY CAN'T GET HURT, THEY'RE WRONG. AND TO ME, I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A TURN LANE. I'VE ASKED THEM A NUMBER OF TIMES, WHY CAN'T WE HAVE A TURN LANE HERE? WELL, THE ZONING COMMISSION AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE A LOT SMARTER THAN I AM. THEY SAID WE DON'T NEED ONE. AND NIGHTTIME IN MOST CASES, PEOPLE WILL SAY, DOES SOMEBODY HAVE TO DIE BEFORE WE CAN PUT A LIGHT HERE OR A STOP SIGN OR WHATEVER? AND YOU PRETTY MUCH THAT'S KIND OF THE WAY IT HAPPENS. AND THAT'S AN EMBARRASSING GOVERNMENT IS SUPPOSED TO DO THEIR JOB. OUR JOB IS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE. AND AFTER 22 YEARS, I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT. I THINK I'VE GOT SOME PEOPLE LISTENING AND I'M VOTING NO TONIGHT. BUT SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER, THE PLANNING AND ZONING WHEN THEY REVIEW A ZONING CASE AND SAY, ARE WE MAKING TRAFFIC BETTER OR WORSE? AND EVERYBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE PERSON WHO'S DEVELOPING THE PROPERTY AND IS GOING TO HAVE SOME KIND OF STORE OR WHATEVER THEY NEED TO BE SUCCESSFUL. WE LIKE THEM TO BE SUCCESSFUL. WE MAKE MORE MONEY WHEN THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL.

BUT WHEN PEOPLE GET FRUSTRATED AND PEOPLE GET HURT, WE SHOULD IMPROVE THE ROADS. AS WE IMPROVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE. I MEAN, SIX, 22 YEARS AGO WHEN I FIRST GOT IN OFFICE, I ASKED THE PERSON FROM PUBLIC WORKS. I SAID, CAN YOU SHOW ME WHERE WE'RE WHERE OUR ROADS ARE FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS? AND THEY SAID, WHAT? I SAID, ROADS, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO INFRASTRUCTURE. WHERE'S THE ROADS GOING TO BE? WELL, WE DON'T HAVE NOTHING LIKE THAT. AND I SAID, WHY NOT? WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. I SAID, YOU GOT A PENCIL. YOU OUGHT TO KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING. YOU DON'T DO

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AND A LOT OF TIMES I THINK WE'RE WITHOUT A RUDDER. AND SO HOPEFULLY YOU KNOW, I'M PROBABLY BE THE ONLY PERSON WHO VOTES NO. I VOTED NO. A LOT OF THINGS WHEN I THINK GOVERNMENT DOES WRONG.

AND SO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN BENSON, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCILMAN KRAMER THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I'M I'M GOING TO BE VOTING YES.

I'M SORRY. I WAS TRYING TO GET IN THE SYSTEM. I COULDN'T GET IN FAST ENOUGH. I'LL BE VOTING YES ON THIS, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO FOLKS WHO MIGHT BE PAYING ATTENTION. MY YES VOTE IS IN NO WAY A CONTROVERSIAL CONTRAVENTION TO ANYTHING THAT COUNCILMAN BENSON JUST SAID. THE PROBLEMS HE POINTS OUT ARE REAL PROBLEMS. THE STRUGGLES WE HAVE WITH LOOKING FORWARD AS WE'RE DESIGNING, AS WE'RE WE'RE PLANNING FOR ROADS. THEY ARE REAL AND THEY'RE SERIOUS. AND I APPRECIATE COUNCILMAN BRANT BENSON BRINGING THEM FORWARD. THE REALITY IS THIS IS A ZONING CHANGE. AND THE WAY THAT THEY GO ABOUT THIS, THEY FOLLOW THE RULES. THEY DID WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO. MY JOB AS A COUNCIL PERSON, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IS TO VOTE YES WHEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOES WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO, UNLESS THERE'S A SEPARATE FINDING OF FACT, WHICH SUGGESTS THAT THEY DIDN'T DO THEIR JOB. IT'S NOT MY JOB TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE OF A PROJECT. SO AGAIN, I COMMEND MY COLLEAGUE IN DISTRICT 20. HE IS SPOT ON THAT THE PROCESS DOESN'T WORK NEARLY THE WAY THAT IT SHOULD. AND MY HOPE IS THAT THIS WILL SPUR CONVERSATION BEYOND THIS COUNCIL CHAMBER SO THAT WE CAN START LOOKING AT FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS WITH FUTURE PLANNING INSTEAD OF FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS WITH CURRENT TRAFFIC STUDIES. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN PIAGENTINI. THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO JOIN MY COLLEAGUE IN DISTRICT 20 WITH A PROTEST. NO VOTE. UNDERSTANDING THAT EXACTLY WHAT COUNCILMAN KRAMER SAID, IT WILL CHANGE NOTHING. AND THE WAY THIS IS STRUCTURED IS WE HAVE NO POWER, AT LEAST AT THIS POINT, TO CHANGE THE FACTS ON THE GROUND. I CAN TELL YOU THAT I HAVE HAD SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENTS SIMILAR TO THIS AND OTHER PROJECTS IN MY DISTRICT, AND WHERE YOU HAD A COMBINATION OF STATE AND LOCAL ROADS OR STATE AND LOCAL DEVELOPMENT, SORT OF INTERSECTING, AND IT GOT TO THE POINT WHERE I AND MY CORRESPONDING STATE REPRESENTATIVE HAD TO PULL KYTC DISTRICT FIVE PERSONNEL AND PUBLIC WORKS PERSONNEL TOGETHER TO FORCE THEM TO SIT DOWN AND RESOLVE ISSUES BECAUSE THEY JUST SPENT EMAILS UPON EMAILS UPON PHONE CALLS, POINTING FINGERS AT EACH OTHER AND NOT RESOLVING PROBLEMS THAT OUR CITIZENS ELECTED US TO SOLVE AND PAY THEM TO SOLVE ON OUR BEHALF. SO I'M I AM DONE WITH YOU KNOW, THIS, I THINK, IS AN INDICTMENT ON HOW THE STATE FOCUSES ON THE HIGHEST GROWTH AREA OF THE CITY AND TO AND AGAIN, TO SAY WHAT IS INEVITABLY GOING TO HAPPEN HERE ON TAYLORSVILLE ROAD, BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU, IT ALREADY HAPPENED ON SHELBYVILLE ROAD THAT WE DIDN'T PUT TURN LANES IN CERTAIN INTERSECTIONS. AND MY PREDECESSOR HAD TO SPEND SYSTEM DEVELOPMENT, CHARGE MONEY, LOCAL TAX DOLLARS ON SHELBYVILLE ROAD TO PUT IN A TURN LANE BECAUSE WE HAD SO MANY PEOPLE GETTING REAR ENDED OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN BECAUSE IT WAS A 50 MILE, 55 MILE, AN HOUR STRETCH OF ROAD THAT HAD A SOFT BEND TO IT. SO PEOPLE WERE REAR ENDING EACH OTHER, TRYING TO MAKE TURNS. AND AGAIN, WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT UNTIL PEOPLE WERE GETTING HURT AND KILLED AT THIS INTERSECTION. SO IF ANYTHING ELSE, WE NEED TO ESCALATE THIS. WE NEED TO GET PUBLIC WORKS. I THINK THIS NEW DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, THE MAYOR'S PROPOSED MAY BE A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, BUT KYTC NEEDS TO COME TO THE TABLE, AND WE NEED TO BE MORE FORWARD THINKING ON THESE AREAS THAT THE CENSUS ALREADY TELLS US WILL BE EXPERIENCING 20 TO 40% GROWTH PER YEAR, PER PER CENSUS CYCLE.

THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN REED. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. AND YOU KNOW, ABSENT ANY FINDINGS OF FACT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO VOTE YES. HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, I'M EXPERIENCING THE SAME THING. AND I THINK THAT AS A BODY, PARTICULARLY THOSE OF US WHO ARE EXPERIENCING THE SAME THING IN IN HIGH GROWTH AREAS LIKE ON 42, THAT WE SHOULD BE PROACTIVE IN ASKING THE STATE TO, TO THINK, YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD RATHER THAN A CURRENT TRAFFIC STUDY. YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAVING SERIOUS ISSUES ON US. 42 NOW, A YOUNG LADY WAS SERIOUSLY INJURED WHO WAS REAR ENDED FOR LACK OF A TURN LANE. THAT THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE 2 OR 3 YEARS AGO. SO I AM GOING TO VOTE YES. AND I SORT OF WAFFLED ON THIS, BUT WE REALLY

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YOU KNOW, WE TYPICALLY HAVE THIS SORT OF READY, FIRE AIM MENTALITY WHEN IT COMES TO DEVELOPMENT AND ROAD ROAD CONSTRUCTION. AND IT'S GOING TO BITE US AND IT'S STARTING TO DO IT NOW. SO BUT YES, BUT HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE SORT OF THE CLARION CALL FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR US TO, TO ASK MORE OF, OF OUR STATE PARTNERS MOVING FORWARD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN ACKERSON. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. COUNCILOR BENSON HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR 20 PLUS YEARS. WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. AND EVERY TIME THIS COMES UP WE HAVE THE SAME CONVERSATION. YOU KNOW, THE STATE'S NOT HELPING US. WELL, AFTER 20 YEARS. GUESS WHAT, FOLKS? I DOUBT THE STATE'S GOING TO HELP US. THE ONLY WAY THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO EITHER CONTINUE TO ACCEPT THIS, TO EAT THIS, THIS TERRIBLE POOP SANDWICH. THEY GIVE US OR OR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DRAW A LINE IN THE SAND. AND THAT LINE IN THE SAND MEANS WE GOT TO STOP SOME PROGRESS FOR A WHILE. WE START VOTING NO AND SHUTTING DOWN SOME PROGRESS.

MAYBE FRANKFORT WILL THEN TAKE AN EYE AND LISTEN TO US, BUT WE'VE GOT TO KEEP TALKING TO FRANKFORT. WE CAN TALK TO FRANKFORT. WE'RE BLUE IN THE FACE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONTINUE TO VOTE YES ON THESE ISSUES AND CREATING GREATER TRAFFIC, OR WE JUST HALT THE PROCESS. WE COME UP WITH ALTERNATIVE FINDINGS OF FACT DEALING WITH TRAFFIC AND OTHER SAFETY ISSUES, AND WE VOTE NO ON THESE THINGS, WHICH MEANS WE'RE GOING TO SHUT DOWN DEVELOPMENT.

WE'RE GOING TO SHUT DOWN SOME OF THE GROWTH OF THIS CITY. AND THAT COMES AT A PRICE TAG. BUT THE QUESTION IS, IS THAT PRICE TAG WORTH THE POTENTIAL OF FINALLY GETTING FRANKFORT EAR THAT THEY'LL CHANGE SOMETHING TO ALLOW THIS, THIS GROWTH TO GO FORWARD? THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN ACKERSON. COUNCILWOMAN FLOOD THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. SINCE THE QUESTION HAS COME UP ABOUT THE ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE, THERE WAS MONEY GIVEN TO PLANNING AND DESIGN UNDER DIRECTOR LOU TO INVESTIGATE AND HIRE A FIRM TO LOOK AT THE CAPACITY NOT JUST OF THE ROADWAYS, BUT OF OUR WALK WITH THE WATER SYSTEM, THE SEWER SYSTEM AND SINCE IT WAS SUCH A BIG PROJECT, IT WAS SCALED BACK TO ONLY DO THE INFRASTRUCTURE ACCORDING TO ROADWAYS, TO DISCOVER WHAT THE CAPACITY WAS, ESPECIALLY OUTSIDE OF THE WATTERSON EXPRESSWAY. AND THE MONEY, I BELIEVE, IS STILL SITTING THERE WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO PICK IT UP AND RUN WITH THE BALL. SO SINCE THIS IS ONE OF MY NEXT TO LAST MEETING WITH YOU ALL, YOU ALL MIGHT WANT TO PUT THAT IN YOUR MEMORY BANKS TO CHECK OUT AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR WHAT THEY INTEND TO DO WITH THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN BACHON. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I ECHO SO MANY OF THE COMMENTS HERE WITH COUNCILMAN PIAGENTINI AND COUNCILMAN KRAMER AND COUNCILMAN REED AND OTHERS. AND I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN BENSON IN REGARDS TO, YOU KNOW, WE SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENTS, WE SUPPORT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN OUR COMMUNITIES. WE WANT THIS TO HAPPEN, BUT WITH ALSO WITHOUT THE FINDING OF FACTS. IT'S HARD TO SAY NO. BUT, YOU KNOW, IN A RECENT EVENT THAT I HAPPENED IN MY DISTRICT, WE HAD GUARDRAILS REMOVED BY PUBLIC WORKS DUE TO WHAT THEY THOUGHT WAS GOING TO BE OKAY WITH THE SPEED LIMIT, AND A CAR CRASHED INTO A HOUSE ON ON SUNDAY MORNING. SO I THINK WE'RE MISSING WITH THE STATE AND WITH SOME OF OUR LOCAL PUBLIC AND KYTC TRANSPORTATION PEOPLE THAT WE NEED TO LOOK BETTER AT THE SAFETY OF THE OF THE PEOPLE ON THE ROADS AND IN THE RESIDENTS AROUND THE CONSTRUCTION THAT IS HAPPENING AND WHAT IT'S DOING. I'M VERY TORN ON THIS, ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE. AND, AND WE DEFINITELY WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE SEND THAT STATEMENT ACROSS THE BOARD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN PARKER. YES, LISTENING TO EVERYONE, I'M JUST THINKING THAT SINCE KYTC USES, THEY ONLY USE TRAFFIC STUDIES ON CURRENT INTERSECTIONS. AND THESE ARE INTERSECTIONS TO BE. MAYBE THEY SHOULD FASHION THEMSELVES AFTER LIKE MLS DATA, COMPARATIVE DATA, AND BE LOOKING AT INTERSECTIONS OF SIMILARITY AND LOOK AT THEIR CRASH DATA BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GO ON THE FUTURE, WHICH SEEMS REALLY SILLY. BUT ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO PUT THE THOUGHT OUT THERE THAT PERHAPS SOME IN THIS BODY AND I'D BE WILLING TO BE THERE, SHOULD MEET WITH KYTC AND GOVERNOR BESHEAR BECAUSE THIS IS HIS AGENCY. THAT'S KIND OF MUCKING THINGS UP AND JUST TRY TO HASH THESE THESE SITUATIONS OUT AND GIVE SOME OF THESE TESTIMONIES. SO THAT WE PUT THIS ON THEIR RADAR, THINKING AND IT'S JUST LIKE, COUNCILMAN PIAGENTINI SAID, I'VE

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IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION HEARING? NONE. THIS IS AN ITEM REQUIRING A ROLL CALL VOTE.

MADAM CLERK, PLEASE OPEN THE VOTING. YES.

ALL. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. YOU HAVE 15 YES AND SEVEN NO'S. THANK YOU. THE ORDINANCE IS ADOPTED. MADAM CLERK, READING OF ITEM 57. AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE ZONING OF PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 8713 THIRD STREET ROAD AND PARCEL ID 104909270000, CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 3.63

[57. O-221-24     AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE ZONING OF PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 8713 THIRD STREET ROAD AND PARCEL ID 104909270000 CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 3.63 ACRES AND BEING IN LOUISVILLE METRO (CASE NO. 24ZONE0032). (AS AMENDED) 11/12/24 Planning and Zoning Committee Amended; Recommended for Approval 10/29/24  Planning and Zoning Committee Tabled 10/15/24  Planning and Zoning Committee Held Action Required By:  December 19, 2024 Sponsors: Madonna Flood (D-24) ]

COUNCILMAN VACHON. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING AND MISTER PRESIDENT.

YES. THIS IS A PARCEL ON THIRD STREET ROAD NEAR WINDSOR FOREST. AND THE NEW PARK THAT WE ARE BUILDING. RESIDENTS IN THE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND OTHER CONSTITUENTS OF THE COMMUNITY HAVE REQUESTED THAT WE PUT A LIMIT ON THE AMOUNT OF LIQUOR STORES THAT WE'VE GOT IN OUR IN OUR DISTRICT, IN OUR, IN OUR COMMUNITY. A FAIR STATEMENT AND REQUEST FROM OUR DISTRICT WAS TO REQUEST NO LIQUOR STORES OR PACKAGED LIQUOR ON THIS PROPERTY. GIVEN THAT THERE IS A LIQUOR STORE WITHIN A BLOCK OF AND PROXIMITY OF THAT SPACE. SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORTING YOUR YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS OR GETTING YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS AND ALSO SUPPORTING THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS COMING. SO WE APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION HEARING NONE. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE REQUIRING A ROLL CALL. VOTE. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE OPEN THE VOTING. I. MR. CHAIR, MR. PRESIDENT, YOU HAVE 22 YES VOTES. THANK YOU. THE ORDINANCE IS ADOPTED. MADAM CLERK, A READING OF ITEM 58, AN

[58. O-249-24     AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE ZONING OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 9206 OLD BARDSTOWN ROAD CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 6.02 ACRES AND BEING IN LOUISVILLE METRO (CASE NO. 24-ZONE-0061). 11/12/24 Planning and Zoning Committee Recommended for Approval Action Required By:  January 17, 2024 Sponsors: Madonna Flood (D-24) ]

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MR. PRESIDENT, YOU HAVE 22 YES VOTES. THANK YOU. THE ORDINANCE IS ADOPTED. THE DENIAL IS ADOPTED. MADAM CLERK, A READING OF ITEM 59, AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE ZONING OF PROPERTIES LOCATED AT EIGHT, 004 AND 8006 CEDAR CREEK ROAD, CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 0.81

[59. O-253-24     AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE ZONING OF PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 8004 AND 8006 CEDAR CREEK ROAD CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 0.81 ACRES AND BEING IN LOUISVILLE METRO (CASE NO. 24ZONE0074). (AS AMENDED) 11/12/24 Planning and Zoning Committee Amended; Recommended for Approval Action Required By:  January 17, 2024 Sponsors: Madonna Flood (D-24) ]

THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. COLLEAGUES, IF YOU RECALL, YOU MAY NOT. THERE WAS ROBUST CONVERSATION ON THIS MASSIVE DENSITY PROJECT THAT HITS CEDAR CREEK ROAD RIGHT OFF OF BARDSTOWN ROAD. LAST YEAR, I BELIEVE IT WAS A YEAR OR TWO AGO. HOW LONG? MADAM CHAIR, ABOUT A YEAR AGO. SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I BELIEVE. I WASN'T REAL EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND SO. BUT I'M GOING TO USE MY TIME HERE TO SHARE WITH YOU WHAT I SHARED IN THE COMMITTEE AND IT'S MY TIME TO BRING UP THE KENTUCKY TRANSPORTATION CABINET, BECAUSE I DIDN'T JUMP IN ON ON THE LAST CONVERSATION, I, WITH ALL THE MASSIVE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMING TO DISTRICT 22 AND HAS BEEN COMING FOR YEARS, ESPECIALLY OUT GENE SNYDER FREEWAY SOUTH TOWARDS MOUNT WASHINGTON. I MY STAFF WENT AND SET UP A MEETING WITH KYTC AND HAD A ROUND TABLE DISCUSSION WITH ALL OF THESE FINE ENGINEERS THAT THE STATE PROVIDES AND TO MAKE THIS LONG, A LONG STORY SHORT, I ASKED THIS QUESTION DO YOU FOLKS HAVE A FIVE YEAR PLAN FOR BARDSTOWN ROAD? DO YOU HAVE A TWO YEAR PLAN FOR BART? WE HAVE 300 UNITS COMING TO CEDAR CREEK ROAD. RIGHT AS YOU GET OFF THE GENE SNYDER FREEWAY, MR. PRESIDENT, AND GOING SOUTH TO GLEN MARY SUBDIVISION, ETC.

ALONE MULTIPLE PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING ON COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, EVERYTHING. DO YOU HAVE A FIVE YEAR PLAN FOR MOVING TRAFFIC ON BARDSTOWN ROAD? THIS STATE ROAD? THEY LOOKED AT ME LIKE DEER IN HEADLIGHTS AND I'M NOT I AM NOT DOWNGRADING OUR ENGINEERS. I'M NOT AN ENGINEER. BUT FOLKS, DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME SORT OF PLAN FOR BART FOR A STATE STATE HIGHWAY LIKE BARDSTOWN ROAD? I MEAN, TAKE IT FROM DOWNTOWN LOUISVILLE ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE MY OLD KENTUCKY HOME? FOLKS, THIS IS A MASSIVE THOROUGHFARE AND WE HAVE ZERO. SO WHAT WAS THE WHAT WAS THE SOLUTION? I ASKED WHAT IS IT THAT I CAN WE CAN DO HERE? THEY SUGGESTED THE PUBLIC WORKS MOVES MOVE A DOCUMENT UP TO THE STATE FOR $450,000 FOR A PLANNING STUDY. SO GUESS WHAT? MR. BRATCHER WAS GOING TO BE SITTING IN MY SEAT NEXT YEAR. WE MOVED IT UP AND WE GOT $450,000, FOLKS. AND THAT WAS IN THE NEWS THIS WEEK AT BATES ELEMENTARY. IF YOU WERE WATCHING ABOUT PEOPLE, PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT TRAFFIC AND NOTHING'S EVER BEEN DONE OUT HERE, WELL, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF THERE HASN'T ACTUALLY BEEN NOTHING, BUT THERE'S NO PLAN IN PLACE. SO THERE IS NOW. SO WE'RE AT A $450,000 PLANNING STUDY PASSED BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY BASED UPON OUR INPUT. SO I THINK IF WE HAVE CONVERSATION, I RECOMMEND CONVERSATION WITH YOUR STATE ELECTED STATE REPRESENTATIVE SENATORS. BUT GO TO KYTC AND HAVE YOUR CONVERSATION, FOLKS.

OKAY. BUT LET ME TELL YOU, AT THE END OF THE DAY, ALL OF THE ROAD FUNDING FOR THE STATE, YOU

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COUNCIL MEMBER SIMON. COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL. MR. PRESIDENT, YOU HAVE 21 YES VOTES AND ONE NO VOTE. THANK YOU. THE ORDINANCE IS ADOPTED. MADAM CLERK, A READING OF ITEM 60. AN

[60. O-255-24     AN ORDINANCE IMPOSING A TEMPORARY, PARTIAL MORATORIUM ON TRANSITIONAL HOUSING IN THE R-5A AND R-5B ZONING DISTRICTS. 11/12/24 Planning and Zoning Committee Recommended for Approval Action Required By:  May 7, 2024 Sponsors: Khalil Batshon (R-25), Donna Purvis (D-5), Phillip Baker (D-6)]

IT'S A CALCULATION USED ON A FORMULA WITH A HIGHER THRESHOLD, A HIGHER DENSITY. THE TEMPORARY MORATORIUM CALLS FOR 180 DAYS, OR UNTIL METRO COUNCIL HAS APPROVED THE NEW REGULATION AND THE NEW FORMULA FOR JUST FOR R5 A AND R5 B, WHICHEVER IS LESS. THE STATE OF KENTUCKY ALSO HAS A LAW THAT SAYS YOU CANNOT HAVE A MORATORIUM OVER 180 DAYS. THIS WAS I AM NOT THE SPONSOR OF THIS. COUNCILMAN BUCKHORN IS THE SPONSOR. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE HIM, PLEASE.

COUNCILMEMBER HORN, THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN FLOOD, FOR PUTTING SOME OF THAT EXPLANATION ON THERE. BUT SO WHERE TO START? THERE'S A THERE'S QUITE A FEW THINGS HERE, MR. PRESIDENT. I'LL START WITH THE REVIEW PROCESS. SO THIS IS A REVIEW TO LOOK AT THE CALCULATIONS ON WHERE AND HOW THE ZONING COVERS IN R5, A, R5, B ZONING DISTRICTS GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, AN R5, A ZONING DISTRICT HAD A PERMIT FOR 106 BEDS ON AN R5, A RESIDENTIAL AREA OF JEFFERSON COUNTY WITHOUT TRANSIT CORRIDOR, WITHOUT LOCAL AMENITIES FOR PEOPLE TO GET TO, SO ON. SO WE WANT TO ESTABLISH HOW THEY CALCULATE THIS FORMULA BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE LAND AND NOT NECESSARILY THE SIZE OF THE STRUCTURE. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS REVIEW PROCESS. WE ARE NOT LOOKING TO ELIMINATE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING. WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO BAN IT.

WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO PUT PEOPLE OUT ON THE STREETS. WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO HURT PEOPLE IN A WHITE FLAG. WE'RE NOT. THIS DOESN'T AFFECT ANY OF THAT. THIS DOESN'T COVER THIS DOESN'T MAKE IT HARDER FOR HOMELESS PEOPLE TO FIND SHELTER. ANY OF THAT NATURE. I WANT TO BE VERY, VERY CLEAR. WE ARE LAYING THE BLUEPRINT MOVING FORWARD. WE PLAN WITH THE PLANNING STAFF TO WORK WITH NAR AND WORK WITH ALL OF THE PROPER FOLKS IN PLACE TO ESTABLISH WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE IT SAFER FOR OUR PEOPLE IN THE RECOVERY SYSTEM. WE WANT YOU TO SUCCEED. WE DON'T WANT TO PLACE YOU IN PLACES WHERE YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SUCCEED. MY GOAL HERE IS FOR WE US TO KEEP

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WE'VE SEEN THAT RECENTLY, IN THE LAST WEEK WITH AN UNFORTUNATE INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED OVER ON PAYNE STREET. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FLOOD. COUNCILMAN PIERCE. RIGHT. THANK YOU. I KNOW THAT I'M NEW HERE AND I'M STILL LEARNING ABOUT ALL THE ZONING. AND I'VE ASKED COUNCILWOMAN FLOOD, I WANT TO SPEND SOME TIME WITH HER TO LEARN MORE. BUT I AM NOT NEW TO NIMBYISM. I AM NOT NEW TO HOW THINGS BEGIN. AND IT STARTS WITH ONE THING AND BECOMES ANOTHER.

IF THE ISSUE IS BAD ACTORS, THIS DOESN'T DEAL WITH THE BAD ACTORS. THIS DOESN'T DEAL WITH WHAT'S ALREADY IN PLAY. AND THIS I WORRY BECAUSE AS OUR WEATHER GETS WORSE, IT IS A PROBLEM. IF PEOPLE CAN'T CONTINUE, IF THEY'RE ALREADY IN PROCESS TO DO THIS. I AM AGAINST THE MORATORIUM FOR THAT REASON THAT THERE ALREADY, AS I'VE ASKED PEOPLE TO COME HERE AND SHARE, THERE IS A GOVERNING ORGANIZATION WITH KENTUCKY WHO'S WHO'S PASSED SOMETHING THAT IS RELEVANT, THAT HELPS REGULATE. AND SO JUST FOR THE RECORD, I'M NOT VOTING NO IN JUST TO BE INDIFFERENT. I AM ALSO ON THE COALITION FOR THE HOMELESS BOARD AND AT MY BOARD MEETING THIS MORNING, I THANK NATALIE HARRIS BECAUSE AS WHAT HAPPENED IN HOUSE BILL, FIVE PEOPLE LIKE THE NAME DROP AND SAY, I TALKED TO THE COALITION A PHONE CONVERSATION WITH NATALIE HARRIS IS NOT US AS A BOARD AGREEING WITH THIS DECISION. AND I THINK THAT WAS MISREPRESENTED BY MY COLLEAGUE. WHAT SHE DID DO, THOUGH, IS SEND AN EMAIL AND SAY THAT THE COALITION FOR THE HOMELESS, HER IN PARTICULAR, ARE NOT EXPERTS IN TRANSITIONAL HOUSING OR RECOVERY HOUSING AND ALL OF THAT. SO WHAT I DID IS REACHED OUT TO THOSE EXPERTS AND SENT OUT THAT INFORMATION TO ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES ON PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN DOING THIS. I SENT OUT MODEL LEGISLATION THAT COVERS THE THINGS, THE ISSUES THAT YOU ALL REALLY HAVE. THAT'S WHAT I SENT OUT, BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH MONEY, WE'VE SEEN YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. THIS DOESN'T GET TO THE REAL ISSUE. AND I WAS WORRIED ABOUT HOW PEOPLE WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO A MENU OF SERVICES, A MENU OF OPTIONS OF HOUSING IN OUR CITY AND IN OUR STATE. MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES ON THIS SIDE OF THE AISLE HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF CONCENTRATION OF RECOVERY AND TRANSITIONAL HOUSING. BEFORE WE GOT INTO THESE SEATS, AND THEY CONTINUE ON, BUT THOSE OPTIONS AND RECOVERY SHOULD BE EVERYWHERE. HERE'S THE DEAL. ISSUES OF DRUGS AND MENTAL HEALTH ARE IN EVERY ONE OF OUR DISTRICTS. SOME HIDE IT WELL AND THE BEST DISTRICTS THAT DON'T THAT DON'T SHOW IT DON'T HAVE MORE POLICE, DON'T HAVE LESS OPTIONS. THEY HAVE MORE OPTIONS AND MORE AVENUES FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE. THE LAST THING I'LL SAY IS WE KENTUCKY HAS ESTABLISHED A STATE LAW. THEY ESTABLISHED IT LAST YEAR. THERE'S 41 HOUSES THAT'S BEEN CERTIFIED AS IT'S BEEN SPOKEN TO BEFORE. 59 ARE IN PROCESS. AND SO I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY IN PROCESS. WHILE THIS MORATORIUM IS IN ORDER. THAT IS A PROBLEM BECAUSE THIS IS THE ONE OF THE WORST SEASONS. AND AS OUR CLIMATE CHANGE CONTINUES TO MAKE IT HARD FOR PEOPLE, THAT'S OUT THERE, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING THROUGH THE RIGHT, CHECKING ALL THE BOXES, DOING THINGS RIGHT, AREN'T HELD UP WHILE WE FIGURE OUT THAT ZONING. I GET IT THAT THERE'S ISSUES AND I DON'T WANT TO STEP IN ANYBODY'S DISTRICT BUSINESS THAT I DON'T NEED TO. BUT THE ISSUE IS WE CANNOT KEEP CONCENTRATING. ALL AFFORDABLE, ACCESSIBLE RECOVERY, TRANSITION HOUSING IN SEVERAL DISTRICTS AND NOT THE WHOLE COUNTY. SO THESE OPTIONS NEED TO BE AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE, AND WE NEED TO DO OUR HOMEWORK. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S BEEN DONE. I NEVER HEARD FROM YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER SEAN. I HEARD THAT COUNCILMAN ARTHUR SUGGESTED THAT WE TALK. I SENT YOU INFORMATION.

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COUNCILWOMAN FOWLER, IN JUST REESTABLISHING THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT CHANGING THE FORMULA AND HOW THIS IS ENACTED, IT IS FLAWED. THERE IS NO NIMBYISM HERE. WE WANT TO GET THIS RIGHT FOR EVERYONE. NO NIMBYISM HERE. THERE'S 41 HOUSES. YOU SAY WITH THE PROPER CERTIFICATES. BUT THAT'S GREAT. WE'RE WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT. BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID IN THE QUESTION THAT WE ASKED JOE HABERMAN THE OTHER DAY IN PLANNING AND ZONING, THERE'S HUNDREDS, HUNDREDS OF VIOLATIONS OF ILLEGAL HOMES DOING TRANSITIONAL HOUSING IN OUR CITY. THE ENTIRE COUNTY, ON A DAILY BASIS, THAT THEY ARE CITING HUNDREDS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT UP TO THE STANDARD AND THEY'RE CONFORMING WITHIN THE CODE THAT WE HAVE EVEN WRITTEN TO ALLOW CERTAIN THINGS TO HAPPEN THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO ADJUST. SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET THIS RIGHT FOR EVERYONE IN OUR CITY, EVERYONE. PERIOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN. COUNCILWOMAN FLOOD. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I THANK YOU AGAIN, COUNCILMAN BUCKHORN AND COUNCILMAN FOWLER THAT RESTATED THAT THIS IS ABOUT THE LAND USE THE FORMULA. THAT'S FLAWED. I ACTUALLY WORKED ON ALL THE TRANSITIONAL AND REHABILITATION HOME LEGISLATION THAT THE CITY HAS WORKED ON. AND ACTUALLY CHAMPIONED. WHEN WE DID THE REFORMS TO MAKE IT MORE WIDESPREAD TO MAKE THIS THE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING AND REHABILITATION CENTERS LICENSED AND UP TO THAT, PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING IN, THESE WERE NOT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THEIR MONEY, WASN'T BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF. THEY PERSONALLY WEREN'T BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF. AND I WILL ALWAYS CHAMPION THOSE THOSE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING BECAUSE AS SAID BY ONE WOMAN WHO WAS IN TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, I WILL NEVER FORGET THIS BECAUSE IT HAD THE MOST IMPACT. YOU DIDN'T MIND ME LIVING IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN I WAS DRUNK, DRIVING THROUGH YOUR STREETS, AND YOUR KIDS ARE PLAYING OUTSIDE IN YOUR FRONT YARD. BUT NOW THAT I'M GETTING HELP, YOU DON'T WANT ME SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FLOOD. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CHAPEL. I AGREE, I'M VOTING NO FOR THE MORATORIUM BECAUSE WHEN I WAS IN THE COMMITTEE MEETING, I ASKED, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS TRANSITIONAL HOUSING? HOW MANY TRANSITIONAL HOUSING UNITS DO WE HAVE? IF THE MORATORIUM WERE TO GO INTO EFFECT IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, HOW MANY WOULD THIS PREVENT GOING INTO THE MARKET? AND NONE OF THOSE QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE THOSE ANSWERS. AND SO I THINK THAT THE MORATORIUM IS NOT NECESSARY. BUT I DO WANT TO STRESS THAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT THIS IN TERMS OF DEFINING TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, BECAUSE OUR CITY WEBSITE DEFINES IT DIFFERENTLY THAN WHAT IS ACTUALLY IN OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES. SO THEY'RE INNATELY IT IS FLAWED, BUT WHEN

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COUNCILWOMAN FOWLER. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY SOMETHING ACROSS THE STREET FROM FIVE A OR FIVE B, WHEREVER IT MIGHT BE, IF IT'S A R-4, JUST BE CLEAR THAT IF THERE'S TWO ACRES OF GROUND AND IT'S STILL A 3 OR 4 BEDROOM HOUSE, THEY CAN HAVE ONLY A HANDFUL SIX, MAYBE SIX PEOPLE LIVE IN THAT HOUSE IN FIVE A ON. I'M SORRY, ON 4 OR 4, BUT JUST ACROSS THE STREET, IF IT'S FIVE A OR FIVE B, THEY CAN HAVE 106. THAT'S HOW FLAWED IT IS. SO WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ADDRESSED AND LOOKED AT. SO YOU KNOW THERE THERE ARE HOMES AND TRANSITIONAL PROPERTIES FOR THE PEOPLE AND THAT IT'S DONE THE RIGHT WAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OH AND BY THE WAY, I NORMALLY DON'T AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN VACHON, BUT ONE TIME. OKAY, COUNCILOR, COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS.

I WAS JUST GOING TO CALL THE QUESTION. OKAY. SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN QUEUE. THIS IS A ORDINANCE REQUIRING A ROLL CALL. VOTE. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE OPEN THE VOTING. YOUNG MAN. MR. PRESIDENT, YOU HAVE 20 YES VOTES AND TWO NO VOTES. THANK YOU. THE ORDINANCE IS ADOPTED. MADAM

[61. O-258-24     A ORDINANCE AMENDING THE LOUISVILLE/JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT CODE OF ORDINANCES (“LMCO”) CHAPTER 156 RELATED TO DEMOLITIONS. (AS AMENDED) 11/12/24 Planning and Zoning Committee Amended; Recommended for Approval Action Required By:  May 7, 2024 Sponsors: Jecorey Arthur (I-4) ]

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MADAM CLERK, PLEASE OPEN THE VOTING. MR. PRESIDENT, YOU HAVE 22 YES VOTES. THANK YOU. THE

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OPERATING BUDGET AND ORDINANCE 105 SERIES 2023 BY APPROPRIATING 1,024,200 AND REALLOCATING 649 $888 OF HOPEWELL SETTLEMENT OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUNDS FOR THE VARIOUS PURPOSES THROUGH LOUISVILLE METRO PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELLNESS. OKAY ITEM 64, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 101, SERIES 2024, AN ORDINANCE NUMBER 100, SERIES 2024 RELATING TO FISCAL YEAR 2024 2025, CAPITAL BUDGET AND FISCAL YEAR 2024 2025. OPERATING BUDGET, RESPECTIVELY, BY TRANSFERRING $9,351.90 FROM THE DISTRICT 14 CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE FUND TO THE DISTRICT 14 NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUND. ITEM 65 AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING YEAR END OPERATING BUDGET TRANSFERS BETWEEN VARIOUS AGENCIES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023 2024, AND TO PROVIDE VARIOUS TRANSFERS AS DETAILED HEREIN. ITEM 66 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 0806 2023, AN ORDINANCE NUMBER 101, SERIES 2024 RELATING TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2023 2024 AND FISCAL YEAR 2024 2025 CAPITAL BUDGETS, RESPECTIVELY, BY TRANSFERRING 144,000, $39.01 TO THE DISTRICT, 12 SYLVANIA PARK REIMAGING PROJECT ITEM 67 A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE JEFFERSON COUNTY SHERIFF'S 2025 BUDGET. ITEM 68, A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE JEFFERSON COUNTY CLERK'S 2025 BUDGET. THE FOLLOWING LEGISLATION WAS ASSIGNED TO THE COMMITTEE ON COMMITTEES. ITEM 69 A RESOLUTION AMENDING THE LOUISVILLE METRO COUNCIL POLICIES AND PROCEDURES IN THE LOUISVILLE METRO COUNCIL. PERSONNEL POLICIES. THE FOLLOWING LEGISLATION WAS ASSIGNED TO EQUITY, COMMUNITY AFFAIRS, HOUSING, HEALTH, AND EDUCATION COMMITTEE. ITEM 70 A RESOLUTION URGING MAYOR CRAIG GREENBERG TO DECLARE VETERANS DAY A METRO HOLIDAY. ITEM 71 A RESOLUTION HONORING OLD WALNUT STREET BY DEDICATING THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF 13TH STREET AND THE MUHAMMAD ALI BOULEVARD AS OLD WALNUT WAY IN ITS HONOR. ITEM 72 A RESOLUTION PURSUANT TO THE CAPITAL OPERATING BUDGET ORDINANCES APPROVING THE APPROPRIATION TO FUND THE FOLLOWING NON-COMPETITIVELY NEGOTIATED SOLE SOURCE CONTRACT FOR THE LOUISVILLE METRO PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELLNESS CONCERNING HIV TESTING EQUIPMENT AND RELATED KITS ROCHE DIAGNOSTICS CORPORATION, $87,759. THE FOLLOWING LEGISLATION WAS ASSIGNED TO LABOR, ECONOMIC, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE. ITEM 73, AN ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING $12,995 FROM DISTRICT 22. NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS TO THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET TO FERN CREEK FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT FOR THE PURCHASE OF A CARGO TRAILER.

ITEM 74 AND ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING $10,000 FROM NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS TO THE FOLLOWING MANNER $10,000 FROM DISTRICT 23 THROUGH THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET TO HIGHVIEW ARTS, INC. FOR THEATER EQUIPMENT IMPROVEMENTS, RENT, UTILITIES, AND COST RELATED TO PRODUCING SHOWS. ITEM 75 AN ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING $7,000 FROM NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER $7,000 FROM DISTRICT FIVE THROUGH THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET TO BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, INC. FOR COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE TRANSFER.

CAREER. EXPLORATION PROGRAM. ITEM 76 A AN ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING $10,000 FROM NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER $10,000 FROM DISTRICT FIVE TO THE OFFICE

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AN ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING $30,000 FROM DISTRICT 23 NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS TO METRO PARKS FOR PRODUCTION COSTS OF THE 2025 PRIDE FEST AND HIGHVIEW PARK CONCERT SERIES.

ITEM 81, AN ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING $1,500 FROM NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS AND THE FOLLOWING MANNER $1,500 FROM DISTRICT 15 TO THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT BUDGET TO STAGE ONE. FAMILY THEATER, INC. FOR COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH STORYTELLING PERFORMANCES AT PUBLIC LIBRARIES IN JEFFERSON COUNTY. ITEM 82 AN ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING $25,000 FROM DISTRICT 14 NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS TO THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT BUDGET TO FOOD LITERACY PROJECT FOR SPONSORSHIP OF GATHER FOR THE GARDEN 2025. ITEM 83 AN ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING $120,000 FROM DISTRICT SIX NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS, THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT BUDGET TO CENTRAL LOUISVILLE COMMUNITY MINISTRIES, INC. FOR COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE HOUSING AND UTILITIES PROGRAM. THE FOLLOWING LEGISLATION WAS ASSIGNED TO PARKS AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE. ADAM 84, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE LOUISVILLE JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT CODE OF ORDINANCES AE SECTION 42.31, 42.33 AND 42.99 TO REQUIRE PERMITS FOR EVENTS HELD IN METRO PARKS AND ESTABLISHING CIVIL FINES AND ENFORCEMENT PROCEDURES FOR THE FAILURE TO OBTAIN OR COMPLY WITH A PERMIT. ITEM 85 A RESOLUTION PURSUANT TO THE METRO ORDINANCES CODE 42.43 I APPROVING THE FOLLOWING CONTRACT FOR MANAGEMENT OF QUAIL CHASE GOLF COURSE, HARDISTY GOLF, LLC. ITEM 86 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR, ON BEHALF OF THE METRO GOVERNMENT, TO ACCEPT THE DONATION OF A CONSERVATION EASEMENT ON PROPERTY OWNED BY MARY ANN TYLER, LOCATED AT 5801 AND 5900 BELTON ROAD IN JEFFERSON COUNTY, KENTUCKY. ITEM 87, A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR, ON BEHALF OF METRO GOVERNMENT, TO ACCEPT THE DONATION OF A CONSERVATION EASEMENT ON PROPERTY OWNED OWNED BY RODNEY DE PAUL AND NANCY M POE AS TRUSTEES OF THE LIVING TRUST LOCATED AT 15 205 BRUSH ROAD, BRUSH RUN ROAD IN JEFFERSON COUNTY, KENTUCKY. THE FOLLOWING LEGISLATION WAS ASSIGNED TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE. ITEM 88, AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE ZONING OF FORM DISTRICT OF PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 13698 AIKEN ROAD AND PARCEL ID NUMBER 002307350000, CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 44.8 ACRES AND BEING LOUISVILLE METRO CASE NUMBER 20 2022. ZONE 009.

ZERO 89 AN ORDINANCE OF RELATING TO THE ZONING OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 8300 COOPER CHAPEL ROAD, CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 74.2 ACRES AND BEING THE LOUISVILLE METRO. CASE NUMBER 23, ZONE 0120. ITEM 90, AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE ZONING OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 8107 THROUGH 8119. MINOR LANE CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 97 ACRES AND BEING THE LOUISVILLE METRO CASE NUMBER 24, ZONE 0110. ITEM 91 AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE ZONING OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4206 TAYLOR BOULEVARD, CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 0.1645 ACRES AND BEING LOUISVILLE METRO CASE NUMBER 24, ZONE 0082. ITEM 92, AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE ZONING OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2100 WEST JEFFERSON STREET, CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 0.41 ACRES AND BEING THE LOUISVILLE METRO. CASE NUMBER 24, ZONE 0090. ITEM 93, AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE DETAILED DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 6805 PETERCHURCH ROAD, CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 21 OR 2.1 ACRES IN LOUISVILLE METRO. CASE NUMBER 24 DDP 0059. ITEM 94 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 156 OF THE LOUISVILLE METRO CODE OF ORDINANCES RELATING TO THE REDUCTION OF FINES AND COSTS OF OWNED OWNER OCCUPIED PROPERTIES.

ITEM 9495 A RESOLUTION DIRECTING LANDMARKS COMMISSION STAFF TO BEGIN THE LANDMARKS PROCESS REVIEW PROCESS OF THE HISTORIC WAGNER'S PHARMACY, LOCATED AT 3113 SOUTH FOURTH STREET. ITEM 96 A RESOLUTION DIRECTING LANDMARKS COMMISSION STAFF TO BEGIN THE LANDMARKS REVIEW PROCESS FOR THE HISTORIC KOSAIR FOR KIDS, LOCATED AT 982 EASTERN PARKWAY. ITEM 97, A RESOLUTION REQUESTING THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW THE METRO LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REGULATIONS WITH REGARD TO DEVELOPMENT ALONG SUBSTANDARD ROADS. THE FOLLOWING LEGISLATION WAS ASSIGNED TO PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. ITEM 98 A RESOLUTION PURSUANT TO THE CAPITAL OPERATING BUDGET ORDINANCE IS APPROVING THE APPROPRIATION TO FUND THE FOLLOWING NONCOMPETITIVE NEGOTIATED PROFESSIONAL SERVICE CONTRACT FOR THE OFFICE OF SAFE AND HEALTHY NEIGHBORHOODS CONCERNING EVALUATION AND ANALYSIS REGARDING THE LOUISVILLE YOUTH NETWORK. MCNAIR

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THE FOLLOWING LEGISLATION WAS ASSIGNED TO PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE. ITEM 103, AN ORDINANCE AWARDING COMMUNICATIONS SERVICE FRANCHISE TO LOOMIS FIBER OF KENTUCKY, LLC PURSUANT TO THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF CHAPTER 116 OF THE LOUISVILLE METRO CODE OF ORDINANCES. ITEM 104 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING LOUISVILLE, JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT CODE OF ORDINANCES. LEMKO SECTION 76.03 REGARDING TRUCKS RESTRICTIONS ON CERTAIN ROADS AND I DON'T WANT TO APPLY RESOLUTION RATIFYING AND APPROVING A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT FROM THE DATE OF APPROVAL BY THE LOUISVILLE JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO COUNCIL TO JUNE THE 30TH, 2027, RELATING TO WAGES, BENEFITS AND OTHER TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THE EMPLOYMENT BETWEEN LOUISVILLE, JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT AND THE INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD OF ELECTRICAL WORKERS. AFL, CIO, C L C IBEW LOCAL 369. CONCERNING CERTAIN EMPLOYEES OF THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS AND ASSETS, REGIONAL. THANK YOU.

NEXT, WE HAVE ANNOUNCEMENTS. COUNCILWOMAN MCCRANIE, YOU HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT. OKAY.

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AND SO ON DECEMBER 14TH AT 12 NOON, YOU'RE INVITED TO COME AND WITNESS THE PLACING OF THE WREATHS. BUT PRIOR TO THAT, DECEMBER THE 3RD IS THE DEADLINE TO PURCHASE A WREATH. PLEASE STOP BY BROWNSBORO HARDWARE PAINT AND EITHER OF THEIR LOCATIONS IN EITHER ON BROWNSBORO ROAD OR IN PROSPECT, AND PLEASE PURCHASE A WREATH. $17 WILL GET YOU A WREATH AND WE NEED EVERYBODY'S PARTICIPATION. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN. COUNCILWOMAN, DO YOU MIND READING THAT WEBSITE ONE MORE TIME? YES, YOU CAN PURCHASE A WREATH THROUGH L O U K Y WREATHS .ORG OR YOU CAN VISIT OR CALL BROWNSBORO HARDWARE AND PAINT LOCATION. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN PARISH. RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I AM EXCITED TO ANNOUNCE, IN THE SPIRIT OF GIVING, THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE IN NEED AS OUR LOUISVILLE METRO COUNCIL IS COLLECTING FOOD TO BE DISTRIBUTED TO FAMILIES AND PEOPLE WHO NEED FOOD FOR THE HOLIDAYS. ALSO, THERE ARE PEOPLE BEING RELEASED FROM OUR JAILS EVERY DAY, OUR LOCAL JAIL AT SIXTH AND LIBERTY. THEY'RE BEING RELEASED AND THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH CLOTHING. AND I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH MARNIE. SHE'S THE EXECUTIVE ADMINISTRATOR AT THE JAIL AND 24 OVER SEVEN, 24 OVER SEVEN EVERY DAY THEY'RE ACCEPTING CLOTHING FOR PEOPLE BEING RELEASED. THEY'RE IN NEED OF SOCKS, T SHIRTS, PANTS, UNDERCLOTHES FOR PEOPLE BEING RELEASED ESPECIALLY. AND COATS

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