Nov 14, 2024 Budget Committee (trimmed)

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OKAY, LET'S CALL THE BUDGET COMMITTEE TO ORDER TODAY IS THE 14TH OF NOVEMBER. IT IS 433.

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MCCRANIE. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL MOVE DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER TWO. AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE.

I'M SORRY. YEAH. THIS MEETING IS BEING HELD PURSUANT TO KRS 861 .826. AND COUNCIL RULE FIVE. A

[2. O-245-24     AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 100, SERIES 2024, RELATING TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2024-2025 OPERATING BUDGET, BY TRANSFERRING $10,300 FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUND (DISTRICT 6) TO THE LOUISVILLE METRO COUNCIL GENERAL OPERATIONS (DISTRICT 6). Action Required By: May 7, 2025 Sponsors: Phillip T. Baker (D-6) ]

OKAY. SO IT'S TO SOME EXTENT IT'S FOR THE GLIDE TRAVEL WHICH WAS PART OF HIS RESPONSIBILITIES AS A COUNCILPERSON. AND THEN FOR SOME ADDITIONAL STAFFING THAT YOU GUYS HAD PREVIOUSLY HAD IN THE OFFICE. YES, SIR. OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE EXPLANATION. COUNCILWOMAN PARRISH WRIGHT HAS JOINED US. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE CALL FOR ROLL CALL. VOTE. PLEASE OPEN VOTING. SO, SONIA, I'M SORRY, I'M ON MY PHONE. AND SO I AM NOT ABLE TO OPEN IT, BUT I'M A YES.

LIKEWISE. I'M A YES, TOO. I JUST I JOINED LATE, SORRY. I'M. COUNCIL MEMBER RENA WEBBER. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER OWEN. YES. VOTING. CLOSING. ARE Y'ALL. SEE Y'ALL TOMORROW. SEE YOU. SORRY.

WRONG GROUP. OH, YOU'RE NOT LEAVING US? NO, I WAS TALKING TO MY WORK. TO YOU. I'M SORRY. THIS IS. THIS SHOULD BE NINE. TEN. YES VOTES. TEN YES VOTES. THANK YOU. ITEM PASSES WITH OUR

[3. O-262-24     AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 100, SERIES 2024, RELATING TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2024-2025 OPERATING BUDGET, ORDINANCE NO. 080, SERIES 2023, RELATING TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2023-2024 CAPITAL BUDGET AND ORDINANCES NO. 168, SERIES 2021, ORDINANCE NO. 182, SERIES 2022, ORDINANCE NO. 116, SERIES 2024, AND ORDINANCE NO. 119, SERIES 2024, RELATING TO VARIOUS ROUNDS OF THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN (“ARP”) LOCAL FISCAL RECOVERY FUNDING TO VARIOUS LOUISVILLE METRO GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENTS TO ADDRESS THE CONTINUED IMPACT OF COVID-19 ON THE ECONOMY, PUBLIC HEALTH, STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, INDIVIDUALS, AND BUSINESSES, BY IDENTIFYING SELECT ARP FUNDED PROJECTS TO SWAP WITH ELIGIBLE FISCAL YEAR 2024-2025 PUBLIC SAFETY OPERATING EXPENDITURES AS ALLOWED BY THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY. Action Required By: May 7, 2025 Sponsors: Rick Blackwell (D-12) ]

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TAKE THAT FUNDING, PUT IT INTO FOR PUBLIC SAFETY SALARIES. TAKE THOSE FUNDS THAT ARE FREED UP, THE GENERAL FUNDS THAT ARE FREED UP, AND THEN TAKE THOSE SAME ART PROJECTS AND MAKE THEM GENERAL FUND PROJECTS. AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS WE WANT TO GIVE SOME OF THOSE GROUPS A LITTLE MORE TIME TO SPEND TO OBLIGATE THE FUNDS AND SPEND THE FUNDS. ONE OF THE PROJECTS IS REVERSING REDLINING. THEY'RE DOING GREAT WORK IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT THEY NEED MORE TIME TO SPEND THE MONEY. THEY MIGHT MAKE IT TO DECEMBER 31ST, 2026, BUT I THINK THIS WILL HELP THEM COMPLETE THE PROGRAM AND FIND A LOT OF HOUSING FOR A LOT OF FOLKS. ANOTHER PROGRAM IS THE ARP 38, IS THE COMMUNITY. THEY CALL IT THE AMBASSADOR INSTITUTE WITH OCEAN. SO THEY'VE GOT SEVERAL GRANTS THAT THEY'VE ALREADY AWARDED. AND WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS THEY HAVE OTHER GRANTS THAT ARE COMING UP, AND WE'D LIKE TO MOVE THIS TO THE GENERAL FUND SO THAT THOSE NON-PROFITS AREN'T BOUND BY THE RULES OF THE US TREASURY. OCEAN WILL HANDLE THIS AS A GENERAL FUND GRANT, AND THOSE FUNDS WILL BE PUT INTO THEIR GENERAL FUND AND THEY'LL HANDLE THAT HANDLE THAT AS A GENERAL FUND GRANT. SIMILAR ITEMS, SIMILAR TRANSACTIONS FOR THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO THIS WITH, YOU KNOW, WOULD POINT OUT THAT. SO WE ARE NOT ADDING ANY PROJECTS HERE. WE ARE SIMPLY CHANGING THE SOURCE. THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. AND THE THINGS THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR NOW ARE THINGS THAT OUR FUNDS ARE LEGITIMATE USES OF ARP FUNDS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED IN THE PAST. THAT'S CORRECT. THE THINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL, RIGHT.

WE'RE NOT ADDING ANY NEW PROJECTS THAT COUNCIL HAS NOT APPROVED YET. FUNDING SOURCE ONLY. THAT'S CORRECT. QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, COUNCILWOMAN? I HAVE A QUESTION, MR. CHAIR. HOLD ON A SECOND. I'VE GOT A I'VE GOT SEVERAL. I DON'T KNOW. LET ME MAKE SURE MY SPEAKERS IS WORKING HERE. COUNCILWOMAN MCCRANIE IS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, MR. HILDEBRAND. I READ IN THE DOCUMENTS WHERE THERE WAS JUST A SLIGHT REMARK ABOUT NOT HAVING TO REPORT OUT TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. SO COULD YOU TALK TO THAT, PLEASE? BECAUSE I DON'T WANT IT TO APPEAR THAT WE ARE TRYING TO USURP OR GO AROUND HAVING TO REPORT THESE DOLLARS AS THEY WERE GIVEN TO US. YES. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN. THE REPORTING THAT WE WILL BE, I GUESS, ABSOLVED OF IS THE US TREASURY REPORTING REQUIREMENTS, THE GROUPS THAT ARE GETTING THIS MONEY AND THE AGENCIES WILL STILL HAVE TO REPORT IT INTERNALLY. AND IF A IF A GRANTEE IS GETTING THIS MONEY AS A GENERAL FUND GRANT, THEY STILL HAVE TO REPORT IT TO THE TO THE AGENCY. SO THEY'LL STILL BE ACCOUNTABLE TO LOUISVILLE METRO GOVERNMENT. BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO REPORT IT TO THE US TREASURY. WE WILL REPORT THE SWAP THAT WE DID, BUT THEN ALL OF THESE PROJECTS OR MANY OF THEM WILL COME OFF OF THE ARP PROJECT OR WITH THE FUNDS THAT ARE REMAINING, WILL COME OFF OF THE ARP LEDGER, SO TO SPEAK. IT WILL BE PART OF THE GENERAL FUND. AND AS YOU REPORT TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WHAT YOU HAVE FROM THE PERSONS WHO WILL BE REPORTING UP TO METRO GOVERNMENT. COULD YOU PLEASE SEND US A COPY OF THAT REPORTING SO THAT WE ARE AWARE THAT THAT HAS BEEN DONE? THE REPORTING THAT THE WILL NOW GO TO THE AGENCIES THAT AND WHAT YOU REPORT BACK TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT? YES. ALL THE REPORTING THAT WE DO TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE. WE HAVE A REPORTING PAGE AND I'LL SEND THAT TO ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS. YES. AND IT LISTS THE REPORTS THAT WE SEND TO THE COUNCIL. IT LISTS THE QUARTERLY REPORTS THAT WE HAVE TO SEND TO THE US TREASURY, WHICH IS A REALLY HARD REPORT TO READ. BUT THE US TREASURY SAYS THIS IS HOW YOU HAVE TO SEND IT TO US. AND THEN THERE'S AN ANNUAL REPORT THAT WE SEND TO THE US TREASURY. WE CALL IT THE

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ACCORDING TO BROOKINGS, AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN SPENDING TRACKER, MOST GOVERNMENTS ARE SPENDING THEIR FUNDS ON GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS. WOULD THIS FALL UNDER THAT CATEGORY. ONLY ONE OF THE ITEMS. SO THE FUNDS THAT WERE THE ARPA FUNDS THAT WE'RE USING FOR PUBLIC SAFETY SALARIES, THAT WOULD BE GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS. THE REST OF THESE FUNDS, THE REST OF THE FUNDS THAT WERE SWAPPING FOR THE GENERAL FUNDS, MOST OF THOSE ARE GOING TO OTHER AGENCIES LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, VOLUNTEERS OF AMERICA IS DOING THE RESTORATIVE JUSTICE PROGRAM. OTHER NONPROFITS WILL GET THE FUNDING FROM THE ARP. 38. THE AMBASSADOR INSTITUTE. THE RHODIA REMEDIATION FUNDS. THAT'S GOING TO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. SO I THINK ONLY THE FUNDS THAT WE'RE USING FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY SALARIES OR GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS DID THE UNITED STATES TREASURY RECOMMEND THIS PRACTICE, OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOUR OFFICE CAME UP WITH? NO. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE US TREASURY AUTHORIZES US TO DO. YES. AND DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT WITH THEM AND IS REVIEWED IT WITH OUR CONSULTANTS AND. YEAH, IT'S OKAY TO DO THIS. DO YOU ANTICIPATE NEEDING TO DO IT AGAIN? THIS SHOULD BE THE LAST TIME WE HAVE TO COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL. I'M GOING TO KNOCK ON WOOD BECAUSE I SHOULD NEVER SAY NEVER. BUT THE ONLY THING I THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE THE COUNCIL AGAIN IS IF THERE ARE IF WE RUN INTO A SITUATION IN 2026 AND WE IDENTIFY THAT THERE ARE GROUPS THAT ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SPEND THE MONEY BY THE 1231 26 DEADLINE, WE'RE RESERVING SOME OF OUR REVENUE LOSS CALCULATION AS AN INSURANCE POLICY AT THAT TIME. SO IT WOULD BE IN PROBABLY 2026 THAT WE WOULD COME BACK IF WE HAD TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YES, COUNCILWOMAN PARISH. RIGHT. A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF IT. AND WE DIDN'T GET THE BREAKDOWN FOR IT. HELLO? YEAH. CAN YOU START THAT AGAIN? WE ONLY CAUGHT THE LAST ROW OF THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS. I JUST SAW THERE'S A BIG ISSUE AROUND PLANNING AND THEN SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HINTED ON SOME OF THIS. JUST MAKING SURE. WHAT ARE THE PUBLIC SAFETY SALARIES INCLUDED? BECAUSE WHAT I'VE LEARNED FROM THE LAST THING THAT WE PASSED THROUGH, WE DIDN'T ALL HAVE THE BREAKDOWN THEN, BUT CERTAIN POSITIONS WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED AND FUNDED THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND WERE WERE CHANGED OVER AND FUNDED BY THE ARP FUNDING. SO I JUST WANTED TO HAVE MORE CLARITY ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY SALARIES AND IF THAT INCLUDES THE POSITIONS WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, WHICH COULD BE SEPARATE, BUT THERE COULD BE SOME REASONING THERE THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND. YEAH, THIS THE PUBLIC SAFETY SALARIES THAT WILL BE COVERING ARE ONLY THOSE COSTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN INCURRED BY THE LOUISVILLE METRO POLICE DEPARTMENT IN FY 25. AND THEN WHAT ABOUT THE DOES ANY OF THIS GO TO THE POSITIONS FUNDED

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IT'S GOING TO BECOME A GENERAL FUND PROJECT FOR THEM. THAT'S $77,000. THANK YOU FOR THAT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T HIT A FINANCIAL CLIFF AND JUST WE LOSE IT. YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE CALLING FOR ROLL CALL. VOTE. PLEASE OPEN THE VOTE. I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. THIS IS SONIA, THE CLERK. THERE'S AN AMENDMENT THAT NEEDS. THAT NEEDS TO BE PASSED ON THIS. EXACTLY. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY. WHY DON'T WE DO THAT AMENDMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE PASSED. WHO IS ARE YOU DOING THE EVENT? IT'S ALREADY. I THINK IT'S ALREADY LOADED IN THE SYSTEM. IT'S ALREADY LOADED. WE JUST HAVE TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENT. OKAY, SO I HEAR. SO I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENT. OH, MOTION. SO MOVED THAT $20,000. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN THE AMENDMENT IS WE'RE ADDING IT IS BEFORE US NOW IT'S A $20,000 ADDITION TO THE SWAP. SO WE'RE ADDING $20,000 MORE TO THE AMBASSADOR INSTITUTE PROJECT THAT WILL BE SWAPPED FOR GENERAL FUNDS. GOTCHA. ALL RIGHT. THE AMENDMENT IS BEFORE US. ANY QUESTIONS? CONCERNS? SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE EYES HAVE IT. NOW WE HAVE THE AMENDED ORDINANCE BEFORE US WHICH CALLS FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE. PLEASE OPEN THE VOTING. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE RECORD. REFLECT THAT.

COUNCILMAN KRAMER, VOTE YES. MR. COUNCILWOMAN PARKER, AS A YES. YES. THE OPEN VOTING. PARISH RIGHT IS A YES. I DIDN'T HEAR MY NAME. GIVE US ONE SECOND. WE'RE HAVING SOME ISSUES HERE WITH OUR COMPUTER. I PROBABLY SHOULDN'T SAY ANYTHING WHILE YOU'RE AT ME IF YOU HAVEN'T VOTED YET, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO JUST LET THE MEMBERS KNOW THAT THE NEW SCHOOL OF NEW YORK HAS EVALUATED 170 JURISDICTIONS ON HOW THEY SPENT THE ARP MONEY, AND LOUISVILLE IS IN THE TOP 20 OF EQUITY SPENDING OF ARP DOLLARS. SO I'M REALLY PROUD OF THAT. AND A LOT OF THAT IS THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS DID OF ALLOCATING THOSE FUNDS FOR THE PROJECTS THAT THAT ADDRESS EQUITY ACROSS THE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO OUR STRONG RELATIONSHIP WITH THE OFFICE OF EQUITY AND THE OFFICE OF PURCHASING AS HOW HOW WE WENT AND FOUND FOUND THE PROJECTS FOR THAT. SO REALLY PROUD OF THAT. AND ALSO JUST WANT TO REMIND THE MEMBERS THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF DASHBOARDS THAT WE PUBLISH. ONE THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN IS THE CONNECTED PARKS AND BROADBAND DASHBOARD, SHOWING THE HOW THE PARKS ARE BEING CONNECTED TO WIRELESS. AND IT KIND OF SHOWS A RED LIGHT IF THEY HAVEN'T BEEN DONE YET, A YELLOW LIGHT OR ORANGE LIGHT IF THEY'RE IN THE PROGRESS, AND A GREEN LIGHT IF THEY'RE CONNECTED. IT'S REALLY NICE TO EVERY COUPLE WEEKS TO OPEN THAT UP AND SEE MORE GREEN LIGHTS, PARKS BEING CONNECTED. COUNCILWOMAN MCCRANIE, I'M SORR. SORRY. MRS. SONIA, THE CLERK.

THE VOTING IS OPEN, AND I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW I'VE ALREADY RECORDED THE VOTE. COUNCILMAN.

THANK YOU. OKAY. SHOULD I RECORD THE REST OF THEM FOR YOU? VOTING IS CLOSED, AND YOU HAVE TEN YES VOTES. THANK YOU. ITEM PASSES AND WE'LL GO TO OLD BUSINESS BECAUSE OF THE AMENDMENT. THANK

[1. ID 24-0654     LOUISVILLE METRO HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT UPDATES - Ernestine Booth-Henry, Louisville Metro Human Resources; Deputy Mayor Dana Mayton]

YES, COUNCILMAN HUDSON ASKED FOR A MOMENT HERE. BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I FORGOT ABOUT YOU.

THANK YOU. YOURS? THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION THAT YOU INCLUDED TODAY. AND WHILE IT ACKNOWLEDGES SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT YOU WERE ASKED TO COME AND SPEAK TO

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THE FIRST ONE HAS ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED IN WRITING IN AN EMAIL. BUT YES, WE'RE GOING TO.

OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THAT'S WHERE WE STARTED WAS WITH WHAT YOU ALL ASKED US. AWESOME.

I'M DANA MASON, DEPUTY MAYOR, OPERATIONS AND BUDGET. THEN I'D LIKE TO ADD ONE OF THE OTHER ITEMS THAT'S NOT ON THIS LIST. THAT WAS REQUESTED WAS THE THING THAT I'VE PERSONALLY ASKED FOR IN THE LAST TWO BUDGET CYCLES. IS THE BOTTOMS UP ANONYMOUS EMPLOYEE SURVEY. BUT IF YOU'RE NOT PREPARED TO ASK, ADDRESS THAT ONE TODAY, I'M OKAY WITH THAT. THAT THAT HAS ALSO BEEN COVERED. WE'VE DONE THE SURVEY RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. OKAY. SO I'M GOING TO START AND THEN WE'LL KICK IT OVER TO ERNESTINE. SO THE THREE TOPICS THAT WE WERE ASKED SPECIFICALLY ABOUT IF YOU'LL CLICK TO THAT SLIDE. SO WE'RE NOT SURE WHERE THIS NOTION THAT MOST IF NOT ALL POSITIONS HAD BEEN POSTPONED FOR HIRING UNTIL JANUARY. THE FIRST CAME FROM. AND THAT'S WHY I WENT AHEAD. I DID GO AHEAD AND SEND AN EMAIL BEFORE OUR ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED PRESENTATION. YOU MAY RECALL IN THE BUDGET, AS IT ENDED UP, WE WERE SEVEN POINT. WE HAD A $7.5 MILLION GAP, AND THE METRO COUNCIL LEFT IT TO US TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE UP THAT GAP. AND SO WE CAME UP WITH A PLAN. THERE WERE FOUR DIFFERENT ELEMENTS OF IT, BUT ONE OF THOSE WAS TO EXTEND THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF NEW POSITIONS AUTHORIZED IN THE BUDGET UNTIL A JANUARY 1ST START DATE. THAT EXCLUDED POSITIONS NEEDED IN PARKS AND LIBRARIES FOR NEW FACILITIES THAT WERE OPENING, REOPENING OF COMMUNITY CENTERS, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. SO THAT MADE UP APPROXIMATELY $550,000 OF OUR SHORTFALL. THAT WE FOUND OURSELVES IN AS THE BUDGET ENDED. SO MY APOLOGIES IF THAT INFORMATION WAS NOT CONVEYED AFTER THE BUDGET PASSED, I WAS UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IT HAD BEEN SO. THE DIRECTORS ARE WELL AWARE OF IT AND THE REASON FOR IT, AND WE ACTUALLY TOLD THEM YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND POST THEM STARTING OCTOBER 1ST, SO THAT WE WOULD BE READY TO HIRE ON JANUARY THE FIRST. SO AGAIN, WE'RE CERTAINLY NOT UNDER ANY SORT OF HIRING FREEZE. TO THE CONTRARY, WE'RE VERY ACTIVELY RECRUITING EMPLOYEES. SO AGAIN, NOT SURE HOW THAT I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS A RUMOR OR HOW THAT GOT SORT OF SPREAD AROUND. I, YOU KNOW, I WOULD URGE YOU ALL TO CALL ME WHEN YOU HEAR THINGS LIKE THAT BECAUSE THAT THAT TO ME WAS AN EASY ONE TO ANSWER. SO THEN REGARDING THE IMPACT OF COMPENSATION CHANGES, ERNESTINE PROBABLY HAS SOME SOME MORE TRUE DATA. I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU SOME ANECDOTAL DATA, PARTICULARLY WITH REGARD TO THE INVESTMENTS THAT WE HAVE MADE WITH YOUR ALL'S PARTNERSHIP IN THE UNION CONTRACTS, AS YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR REALLY WANTED TO GET US MORE UP TO MARKET ON, PARTICULARLY OUR PUBLIC SAFETY.

ARE WE OKAY? CAN SOMEBODY NOT HERE OR SOMETHING? OH, I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU REFER TO AN EMAIL AND I'M NOT I'M JUST I DON'T KNOW WHAT EMAIL YOU WERE REFERRING TO THAT I CAN REFERENCE. YEAH. I THINK IT WAS MAYBE SEPTEMBER THE 12TH. AND I'M HAPPY TO SEND THAT AGAIN TO ALL OF YOU. ALL THAT HAS THIS IN WRITING. THANK YOU. AND THEN WITH REGARD TO THE COMPENSATION CHANGES, AGAIN ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY, IN PARTICULAR ON THE CBAS, YOU ALL ASSISTED US IN MAKING A HUGE INVESTMENT IN THAT. SO SOME OF THE ANECDOTES ARE EMS HAS A RECORD CLASS OF 28

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AND SO THEY VERY MUCH PUSHED US TO, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO THE MINUTE YOU GET HOME? AND SO WE'RE ALREADY HAVE MUCH OF THIS IN PROGRESS OR COMPLETED. SO I'M GOING TO LET DIRECTOR BOOTH HENRY TALK ABOUT MORE ABOUT THE DELOITTE STUDY, BUT ALSO ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS MANY OF WHICH WE WERE ALREADY WORKING ON, BUT THINGS THAT WE'VE STARTED AS WE WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS. SO HELLO, MY NAME IS ERNESTINE BOOTH HENRY. I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES. I ASK THAT YOU PLEASE BEAR WITH ME, AS I DON'T HAVE MUCH OF A VOICE TODAY. SO AS ALREADY MENTIONED, WE HAVE POSTED AND IMPLEMENTED THE DELOITTE STUDY. DEPUTY MAYOR MAIDEN SHARED THAT WE HAD EIGHT KEY THEMES IDENTIFIED THROUGH THE DISCOVERY EXERCISE WITH DELOITTE. WITHIN SEVEN OF THOSE THEMES, 43 RECOMMENDATIONS WERE PROVIDED FOR HIS CONSIDERATION. YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THIS SLIDE. MANY RECOMMENDATIONS WERE ASSOCIATED OR WHERE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS FELL AND WERE ASSOCIATED WITH EACH THEME. THE MAJORITY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS FELL UNDER THE LACK OF CENTRALIZED RECRUITMENT EFFORTS. THE FULL LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE STATUS OF EACH OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS CAN BE FOUND ON MY METRO AND ALSO ON OUR PUBLIC WEBSITE. OF THE 43 RECOMMENDATIONS, 15 HAVE ALREADY BEEN COMPLETED, EIGHT ARE IN PROGRESS, SEVEN HAVE NOT YET BEEN STARTED, AND 13 HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS NOT FEASIBLE OR NECESSARY. OF THE ONES THAT ARE NOT FEASIBLE, THAT WAS BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE FISCAL YEAR 25 BUDGET AND THE UNNECESSARY WERE IDENTIFIED AS SUCH. BECAUSE WE ARE ALREADY PERFORMING THOSE TASKS. WE WERE ASKED TO SHARE ANY CHANGES AND OR SUCCESSES HR HAS EXPERIENCED, THOUGH NOT ALL ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TO HIRING, I FELT THAT MANY WERE STILL IMPORTANT. WE SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED AN ACTIVE ENROLLMENT WITH ALL OF OUR WITH OUR NEW MEDICAL PROVIDER, ANTHEM, AND WE ARE STILL ABLE TO OFFER OUR EMPLOYEES A ZERO PLAN FOR BOTH THE EMPLOYEES AND THEIR FAMILIES. WE CREATED SMART SHEETS FOR THE HIRING AND TO HAVE TRANSPARENCY WITH THE HIRING PROCESS. WE REVAMPED THE HR REPORT CARD TO REPORT REQUESTED METRICS AS WELL AS THE HR STANDARD METRICS TO THE DEPARTMENTS. WE HAD OUR FIRST FALL CAREER FAIR WITH A RECORD ATTENDANCE ON THAT PARTICULAR DAY. WE DOUBLED OUR NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS, UNION CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS ARE NEARLY CAUGHT UP, MEANING THAT WE CAN NEGOTIATE OUR CONTRACTS PRIOR TO EXPIRATION. A SIGNIFICANT FOCUS HAS BEEN ON THE HIRING PROCESS, SO THIS TIMELINE HERE REFLECTS THE HIRING PROCESS AT ITS BARE MINIMUM. ITEMS THAT ARE INDICATED HERE IN PURPLE ARE THOSE THAT ARE WITHIN HR'S CONTROL. THE ITEMS IN YELLOW ARE THE DEPARTMENT'S RESPONSIBILITY, AND BLUE ARE MANAGED BY THIRD PARTIES OR VENDORS. WITH ALL THINGS PROCESSED WITHOUT ERROR OR UNFORESEEN INTERFERENCE. THE MINIMUM TIME TO COMPLETE THIS PROCESS, AGAIN AT ITS BARE MINIMUM, IS 72 DAYS. AS OF TODAY, THE AVERAGE HIRE TIME IS 106 DAYS. WE ARE STILL WORKING TO IMPROVE, BUT WE HAVE SEEN IMPROVEMENT WITHIN SIX DAYS. 106 DAYS. CORRECT. CAN CAN I ASK YOU ABOUT CAN I ASK YOU QUESTIONS AS WE'RE GOING? ABSOLUTELY, YES. THANK YOU. HOLD ON. COUNCILMAN PIAGENTINI. OKAY. I WILL START WITH SOMETHING YOU'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT. I'LL COME BACK IN THE QUEUE FOR ANOTHER ISSUE.

WELL, NO, LET ME TACKLE THE TWO ISSUES. FIRST OF ALL, YOU TALKED A LOT HERE, AND YOU MENTIONED IT IN YOUR HARVARD STUDY. AND WHEN I LOOKED AT WHAT CAME OUT OF THE HARVARD THING, THERE WERE SEVERAL LINES ABOUT BIAS. DEI DEIB NEVER HEARD ABOUT THE B BEFORE, BUT I GET WHAT IT IS.

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THE REASON WHY THEY THEY WERE HAD CONCERNS RELATED TO EQUITY AND BIAS WAS BECAUSE OF HOW THE PERFORMANCE EVALUATIONS WOULD BE PERFORMED. THAT WAS THEIR CONCERN. WE ADDED IT AS A NOT FEASIBLE OR UNNECESSARY, ONLY BECAUSE IT WAS NOT A PART OF OUR DISCUSSIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 25 BUDGET. NOT TO SAY THAT IT WOULDN'T BE A PART OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAVE FOR FISCAL YEAR 26. OKAY, TWO THINGS. FIRST OF ALL, THAT'S NOT WHAT IT SAYS. IT DOESN'T SAY THAT IT'S NOT BUDGETED FOR. SECONDLY, YOU EITHER NEED TO CREATE A SEPARATE CATEGORY, BECAUSE I DID NOTICE A TREND THROUGH ALL OF THEM. I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL THE ONES I SAW THIS TREND ON, BUT I DID SEE A TREND WHERE IF IT'S NOT BUDGETED, YOU CLASSIFIED IT AS NOT FEASIBLE OR NECESSARY, NOT BUDGETED DOES NOT MEAN NOT FEASIBLE. MAYBE NOT FEASIBLE NOW, RIGHT? BUT EITHER WE USE AND I FORGET WHAT THE OTHER CATEGORIES WERE. ONE OF THEM WAS NOT STARTED, JUST SAY NOT STARTED. IT'S NOT IN THE BUDGET. RIGHT. BUT USE A DIFFERENT CATEGORY BECAUSE I THINK BY IMPLICATION NOT FEASIBLE OR NECESSARY. NOT FEASIBLE MEANS IT CAN'T BE DONE. NOT THAT IT JUST CAN'T BE DONE NOW. IT CAN'T BE DONE EVER, OR UNNECESSARY. YOU CERTAINLY WOULD NEVER DO ANYTHING THAT WAS UNNECESSARY, RIGHT? SO I THINK ANYTHING THAT IS NOT IN THE BUDGET, THERE WERE SEVERAL OTHERS. AGAIN, NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THEM ALL. IF THAT'S THE CONCLUSION, PLEASE LIST THEM AS NOT STARTED. AND HERE'S WHY. IT'S NOT IN THE BUDGET AND PUTS PRESSURE ON US. WE EITR PUT IIN T BUDGET THOT CME'MT, A T A GOG MAK A Y USE ECIFICALLY THE RECOMMENDATIONS 2.6, 3.1, 3.2 AND 3.4. AND I'LL USE JUST ONE EXAMPLE. OKAY. BUT THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF THEM IN 3.4. WELL, LET ME BACK UP. LET

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IT'S INADEQUATE FOR WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND I KNOW THESE SYSTEMS THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT AND SOME OF THESE YOU HAVE I MEAN MS. TEAMS, WE HAVE WE'RE USING THESE BUT WE'RE USING THESE IN ADDITION TO THE SMART SHEETS. SO WE'RE ALREADY USING THE APPLICATIONS, THE SOFTWARE THAT'S AVAILABLE WITHIN THE RECOMMENDATIONS. BUT WE'VE ALSO INTRODUCED SMART SHEETS BECAUSE OF THE NOTIFICATION PROCESS. OKAY. THEN JUST I'M DONE MR. CHAIR, BUT WE NEED TO REFLECT THE TRUTH. AND IN THIS DOCUMENT I CAN APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

COUNCILWOMAN PARISH. RIGHT. THANK YOU. I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF. THERE IS EQUITY ISSUES AND ISSUES OF RACISM AND BIASNESS IN LOUISVILLE METRO GOVERNMENT. THIS WAS KNOWN BY MANY PEOPLE EVEN BEFORE I CAME ON COUNCIL. SO I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE GETTING THE STUDIES DONE. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT. I'VE READ SOME EXIT INTERVIEWS. I'VE BEEN REACHED OUT TO BY CORRECTIONS STAFF AS WELL AS POLICE OFFICERS AND OTHER FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN REACHING OUT TO MY OFFICE. SO MAINLY THE ISSUE AROUND LOW PAY. WE'VE HAD 18 JAIL DEATHS AND SINCE MAY 2021, AND WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE PUSHING FOR A NEW JAIL. AND WHILE WE'RE NOT THERE AND I'M I AM DEFINITELY AGAINST A NEW JAIL BECAUSE I THINK YOU CAN BUILD A NEW JAIL AND PEOPLE WILL STILL DIE IN IT. I DO WANT TO IMPROVE CONDITIONS FOR THE PEOPLE INCARCERATED AS WELL AS THE EMPLOYEES, BECAUSE IF THEY ARE UNDERPAID AND YOU DON'T HAVE THE BODIES, YOU NEED TO SERVICE THEM. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE POLICE ARE A VALUABLE PART OF OUR LOUISVILLE METRO GOVERNMENT WORKFORCE, BUT THAT'S ABOUT WHAT, 2000 OF THEM? EVERYONE ELSE IS SUBJECT TO DIFFERENT CONTRACTS. AND SO WHEN INCENTIVES FOR HIRING ARE GRANT FUNDED. SO THAT IS A TIME LIMITED AND MONEY LIMITED THING.

AND THEN I'M HEARING THAT SOME OF THE CORRECTIONS FOLKS ARE STILL MAKING LOWER WAGES THAN SOME OF THE 14 PEER CITIES OR THE 13 PEER CITIES. YOU TALKED ABOUT. SO WHAT IS THE PLAN TO UNION? CONTRACTS ARE ONE THING, BUT THEY STILL HAVE TO BE NEGOTIATED. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT PART OF IT. BUT WHAT IS THE PLAN TO BRING UP THE METRO CORRECTIONS? THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS IN LOUISVILLE METRO GOVERNMENT UP TO PAR, BECAUSE WHAT I'VE SEEN IS THAT SALARIES AND INCENTIVES FOR SWORN STAFF, BOTH CORRECTIONS AND POLICE. BUT I DON'T SEE MUCH AN IMPROVEMENT ON THAT. AND THAT DOES DEAL WITH HEALTH EQUITY THAT DEALS WITH PEOPLE WANTING TO STAY. YOU HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF TURNOVER. SO WHAT ARE WHAT IS WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE? I KNOW THAT DEPUTY, AND THIS PROBABLY IS MORE FOR DEPUTY MAYOR MAIDEN, ARE YOU ALL LOOKING AT EXIT INTERVIEWS? I LIKE HEARING I'M A DIRECTOR MYSELF. I LIKE HEARING FROM DIRECTORS AND LEADERSHIP.

BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THE GROUND DEALING WITH THE DAY TO DAY SERVICES ARE DEALING WITH MORE OF THESE ISSUES OF FAVORITISM, BEING LOOKED OVER, NEPOTISM OR JUST

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YES. THANK YOU CHAIR. I HAVE ONE REQUEST, TWO QUESTIONS. THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE MENTIONED. IS THERE ANY WAY THAT YOU CAN SEND THOSE TO ALL OF THE BUDGET MEMBERS? YES, MA'AM. I CAN. OKAY. THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL BECAUSE I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD ASKED FOR TO THIS QUESTION. SO WHETHER IT'S HIRING DELAYS OR OR WHAT THE ISSUE IS, IF IT'S JUST WE CAN'T GET POSITIONS FILLED FOR WHATEVER THE REASON IS, THE PROBLEM IS THERE'S LOTS OF WORK OUT THERE THAT'S NOT BEING ABLE TO GET COMPLETED. AND BECAUSE THERE'S NOT POSITIONS FILLED AND THEN THE TIME DELAYS GO ON, THE COST OF THE PROJECT GOES UP. SO THE QUESTION IS HOW MANY POSITIONS ARE STILL OPEN AND WHAT ARE THE MAJOR DEPARTMENTS THAT WE ARE STILL IN NEED OF POSITIONS? WE KNOW LMPD WE'RE SHORT 250 SOME ODD OFFICERS AND WE KNOW WHY WE'RE SHORT. THERE.

BUT CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT OR IF IT'S THAT'S TOO BIG OF A QUESTION. WELL JUST ADDRESS IT FOR A MINUTE. AND THEN IF YOU NEED TO, YOU CAN SEND US THE INFORMATION. ALSO WITH THE. SURE. SO BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT'S HERE AND THE PRESENTATION, I DID PROVIDE A SNAPSHOT OF THE REPORT CARD. YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT WE HAVE AS OF OCTOBER 1ST, 1562 VACANCIES.

THAT IS NOT TO SAY THAT THOSE ARE ALL FUNDED VACANCIES. THAT'S JUST WHAT'S IN THE SYSTEM AS A VACANCY. AND SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENTS ON BE IS WORKING WITH US TO IDENTIFY THOSE THAT ARE TRULY FUNDED OR THAT ACTUALLY NEED TO BE SWEPT. SO I WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A BETTER NUMBER IN THE FUTURE OF EXACTLY WHAT THOSE VACANCIES ARE. AS FAR AS THE DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE THE LARGEST NUMBER OF VACANCIES, CORRECTIONS IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE LARGER ONES.

BUT I CAN ALSO LOOK TO PROVIDE YOU ALL WITH THE BREAKDOWN OF WHICH VACANT OR WHICH DEPARTMENTS HAVE THE LARGEST NUMBERS. OKAY, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. AND THEN THE NEXT QUESTION WAS WORKDAY. HAVE HAVE OUR PROBLEMS WITH WORKDAY BEEN RESOLVED? BECAUSE I KNOW THERE WAS ISSUES THAT WERE TROUBLESOME WITH HEALTH CARE PLANS BEING MESSED UP. AND THEN THEN ALSO WHEN WE WENT THROUGH OUR BUDGET PROCESS, WORKDAY WAS KIND OF A KIND OF A PAIN TOO, BECAUSE WE WEREN'T GETTING GOOD INFORMATION OR THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEEDED TRANSFERRED OVER TO MAKE COMPARISONS FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR. CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? I WOULD SAY THAT WORKDAY IS A WORK IN PROGRESS. WE ARE STILL WORKING THROUGH SOME CHALLENGES WITH THE SOFTWARE, BUT IT HAS DEFINITELY IMPROVED. I WOULD SAY TECHNOLOGY COULD PROBABLY BETTER SPEAK TO ANY EXISTING ISSUES, BUT THAT'S JUST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. I DO THINK WE HAVE GOTTEN THROUGH KNOCK ON WOOD,

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BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, EVERYTHING SHOULD HAVE BEEN PROCESSED CORRECTLY. OKAY, SO ALL THE HEALTH CARE PLANS ARE FIXED AND NEXT BUDGET CYCLE WE WON'T HAVE THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAD THIS YEAR. CORRECT? I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE BUDGET. ANY. CHANGES SPECIFICALLY I THINK. YEAH, I'VE GOT THE CFO SITTING BEHIND ME HERE. I THINK MAYBE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE SWITCHOVER IN THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM AND MAYBE LAST YEAR THAT CAUSED A LITTLE BIT OF A DELAY IN US CLOSING OUT THE PRIOR FISCAL YEAR. BUT WE HAVE SUCCESSFULLY CLOSED OUT FY 24. AND IN FACT, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE MID-YEAR ADJUSTMENT ORDINANCE FILED ON MONDAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. MISS A QUICK QUESTION HERE. SO ON THE ON THE AVERAGE HIRING TIME, THE 157. SO IS THAT FROM THE TIME THAT THIS FROM THE TIME THAT WE FIRST PUBLISHED THE JOB OPENING UNTIL THE TIME THAT A PERSON IS IN IT. THAT IS CORRECT. YES. AND SO THIS DATA HERE IS FROM OCTOBER 1ST OF 24. YOU CAN SEE THAT OUR HIRING TIME HERE IS 157 DAYS. OUR CURRENT AS OF TODAY, I KNOW IT IS. IT'S INCREDIBLE A LOT. YEAH. AS OF TODAY THE CURRENT HIRE TIME IS 106 DAYS. STILL A LOT LARGER THAN WHAT WE WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO BE. BUT OUR PEER AVERAGE IS 126 DAYS, SO WE'RE BETTER THAN OUR COUNTERPARTS. BUT WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO TO GET TO THAT 72 DAYS. BUT BUT IT IS IT IS FROM THE TIME THAT WE PUBLISH UNTIL THE TIME WE HAVE A PERSON IN THERE. IT'S NOT BECAUSE BECAUSE WHEN I WOULD LOOK AT IT, I WOULD THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SO. SO YOU'RE NOT YOU DON'T BREAK IT UP IN TERMS OF THE FROM THE TIME THAT YOU ACTUALLY APPLY FOR THE JOB UNTIL YOU'RE HIRED. SO IT'S FROM THE TIME. SO I PUT IT UP ON THE SCREEN THERE. AGAIN, IT'S FROM THE TIME THAT THE JOB IS POSTED UNTIL THE POSITION IS ACTUALLY FILLED, THE EMPLOYEE STARTS.

OKAY. AND I REALLY LIKE THIS SLIDE. I'M GLAD THEY DISPLAYED IT THIS WAY. I THINK THAT BECAUSE THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS LIKE WE'RE JUST NOT GOING TO CHANGE, LIKE WE WANT IT POSTED FOR TWO WEEKS SO THAT PEOPLE HAVE TIME TO APPLY. BUT I THINK THIS GIVES US A VERY VISUAL OF WHERE ARE THE PLACES THAT WE HAVE CONTROL, THAT WE CAN SHRINK DOWN THIS TIME, AND WE HAVE LED A NEW CONTRACT FOR BACKGROUND CHECKS. SO WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SQUISH THAT TIME DOWN SOME. AND THEN THE TIME THAT IT IS WITH THE AGENCY WE WANT TO WORK WITH THEM TO BE SURE AS SOON AS WE SEND THAT LIST OF CANDIDATES THAT MEET THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS, THEY'RE READY TO INTERVIEW THOSE FOLKS, LIKE ON OUR HIRING SHEET. WE EVEN SAY, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO DO YOUR INTERVIEWS? YOU KNOW, GO AHEAD AND BLOCK OFF YOUR TIM, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE USING A PANEL TO INTERVIEW FOLKS. THEN YOU'RE TRYING TO COORDINATE 3 OR 4 SCHEDULES. YOU'RE TRYING TO COORDINATE THE APPLICANT'S SCHEDULE. BUT IF THERE WOULD BE ANY WAY THAT WE I MEAN, THAT'S A WHOLE MONTH. SO IF WE COULD SQUISH THAT DOWN MORE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD SHAVE OFF SOME OF THAT TIME AND IT WOULD BE A BETTER EXPERIENCE FOR EVERYONE. THE DEPARTMENTS, US AND THE APPLICANTS AND HOPEFULLY KEEP US FROM LOSING FOLKS THAT GET A JOB OFFER, ESPECIALLY FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR WHO, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T HAVE ALL OF THIS, THAT THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO BRING SOMEBODY ON BOARD. YES, EXACTLY. AND SO YOU ALL HAVE ADDITIONAL IDEAS. WE WELCOME THEM.

COUNCILMAN HUDSON. THANK YOU. CHAIR. I HAD SORT OF THE SAME QUESTION THAT THE CHAIR HAD. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU MATHEMATICALLY REDUCE THE 157 TO 106 IN JUST 45 DAYS. THAT THAT

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IT'S JUST A STATEMENT. BUT BACK BACK TO THIS, THIS TIMELINE. IF YOU CAN'T GET FROM THE INTERVIEW DIAMOND TO THE OFFER DIAMOND IN ONE DAY, YOU'VE FAILED BECAUSE OF EVERYBODY ELSE OUT THERE IS DOING THAT. AND THERE IS A VERY PROBABLE SCENARIO HERE WHERE YOUR BEST CANDIDATE INTERVIEWS ON THE BEGINNING OF THAT TWO WEEKS OF INTERVIEWS AND DOESN'T GET AN OFFER FOR SEVEN WEEKS, THAT PERSON'S GONE IN SEVEN WEEKS, GUARANTEED. AND IF YOU AND IF THAT PERSON'S GONE AND YOU GOT TO RESTART, YOU'VE WASTED ALL THAT TIME. THE SEVEN WEEKS PLUS WHAT IT TOOK TO GET TO THE INTERVIEWS. YES, YOU'VE GOT TO GET MORE EFFICIENT IN GOING FROM INTERVIEW TO MAKE AN OFFER THAT DAY. WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO BECOME MORE EFFICIENT AGAIN AND MAKE A BACKGROUND CHECK BEFORE THE OFFER IS CRAZY. WE CAN'T MAKE THE WE HAVE TO MAKE THE BACKGROUND. WE HAVE TO COMPLETE THE BACKGROUND CHECK BEFORE WE MAKE THE OFFER, BECAUSE IF NOT, THEN WE'RE GOING TO BE RESCINDING THAT OFFER. FINE. AND SO WE CAN DO A CONTINGENT OFFER, BUT THE OFFICIAL OFFER CAN OCCUR UNTIL AFTER WE RECEIVE THE BACKGROUND CHECK. THEN WHY NOT DO THAT? WE HAVE DONE THAT. THEN WHY DO YOU MAKE YOUR WHY DO YOU MAKE YOUR GOLD STANDARD? NOT THAT. SO THE PROBLEM IS THE INTERVIEWS AND THE HIRING DECISION THAT IS OUTSIDE OF MY PURVIEW. THAT IS WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE ENGAGED DIRECTOR, I AM THE DIRECTOR OF HR, BUT I, I MAKE THE RULES. HOW DO YOU GET TO INTERVIEW TO OFFER ON SAME DAY? HOW DO YOU DO THAT? I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN UNLESS WE HAVE. WE NEED TO FIND A DIRECTOR THAT CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION. UNLESS WE HAVE THE COOPERATION WITH THE FROM THE DEPARTMENT. THE DEPARTMENT MAKES THE DECISION AND THE RECOMMENDATION TO HIRE. SO OUTSIDE OF ME HAVING THE AUTHORITY TO TELL THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS AND THE HIRING MANAGERS TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION OVER TO US SAME DAY, THEN IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. WE HAVE TRIED TO ADDRESS THESE CONCERNS, BUT UNLESS I'M GIVEN THE AUTHORITY TO SAY THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO, THESE ARE YOUR TIME. LEADER SETS EXPECTATIONS. THE EXPECTATION IS OKAY, I APPRECIATE THAT OFFER. ON SAME DAY AS INTERVIEWS.

THAT'S YOUR EXPECTATION. NOT REALISTIC THOUGH WITH OUR CURRENT PRACTICE THEN IT'S A TOTAL FAILURE. OKAY, WHICH GETS ME TO MY SECOND POINT, WHICH I WASN'T GOING TO GET TO, BUT I'M GOING TO THIS REPORT CARD. WHAT GRADES WOULD YOU GIVE YOURSELF ON THIS REPORT CARD? DEPENDING ON WHICH METRIC THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT DEPENDING ON WHERE. SO OUR TURNOVER I WOULD GIVE US A D ON TURNOVER. WE'RE BEYOND WHERE WE SHOULD BE BASED ON OUR METRICS AND BENCHMARKING FOR TURNOVER. WE'RE NOT WHERE WE NEED TO BE I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. GIVE ME ONE. THAT IS THE HIGHEST GRADE ON THIS SHEET. I THINK THAT WE'VE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB WITH THE NUMBER OF HIRES THAT WE'VE HAD, THE 586. SO NUMBER OF NEW HIRES. YES, BUT YOU FIRED TWICE AS MANY, SO YOU HAD A 50%. AGAIN, I DON'T I DON'T FIRE A TERM I AND THESE ARE THE TERMS THAT ARE LISTED.

THERE ARE RETIREMENTS, RESIGNATIONS AND INVOLUNTARY AND VOLUNTARY SEPARATIONS. AND I DON'T TERMINATE THESE INDIVIDUALS. THAT'S THEIR DECISION. AND OR THEIR THE CONSEQUENCES OF THEIR ACTIONS. WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY NOTHING IS YOUR FAULT. I SAY EVERYTHING IS MY FAULT. ACTUALLY, I TAKE OWNERSHIP. I TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE CONTROL OVER. IF I DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER, THEN I CAN'T TAKE OWNERSHIP OF IT. IF THE DEPARTMENT IS MAKING A DECISION AND I AM UNABLE TO SAY, THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IN ORDER TO GET THINGS DONE, THE DEPARTMENT WHICH DEPARTMENT ARE YOU REFERRING? ALL 33 DEPARTMENTS THAT WE HAVE WITHIN METRO OR WITHIN METRO GOVERNMENT. OKAY, OKAY. THAT WAS JUST A SEMANTICS QUESTION. I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT DEPARTMENT OR AGENCY YOU MEANT, BUT I'VE SAID ENOUGH. I'VE SAID PROBABLY TOO MUCH. THANK YOU. CHAIR. COUNCILMAN ARTHUR, THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, WE KNOW METRO GOVERNMENT HAS THOUSANDS OF EMPLOYEES. WHO ARE YOU PERSONALLY IN CHARGE OF DECIDING TO HIRE? I AM PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE HR, THE 40 HR PERSONNEL THAT I CAN HIRE. THANK YOU. THAT'S WHO I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR. MARKET RESEARCH SHOWS THAT PORTLAND, OREGON WAS HIGHLIGHTED FOR THE ONBOARDING PROGRAM. HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO WORK WITH THEM AND WHAT HAVE YOU LEARNED IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS? IF SO. SO I'VE NOT WORKED DIRECTLY WITH PORTLAND. THAT'S WHY WE PARTNERED WITH DELOITTE WAS TO IN HOPES OF BEING ABLE TO

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SO WE'RE NOT AT MARKET AND AS DEPUTY MAYOR STATED, WE WENT WITH THE GOOD OPTION. WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GO WITH THE BEST OR THE ORIGINAL RECOMMENDATION. A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS. YES, SIR.

WE SEE THE DATA ON HIRING TIME BASED ON WHEN PEOPLE ACTUALLY GET HIRED. DO YOU HAVE DATA ON THE PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T WAIT AND DECIDED TO GIVE UP SOME TIME ALONG THE PROCESS? WE DO HAVE SOME INFORMATION RELATED TO THE DROP OFF RATE, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S CONSISTENT AND OR COMPLETELY ACCURATE. AGAIN, AS THE INDIVIDUALS ARE MOVED THROUGH THE PROCESS AND NEOGOV, UNLESS SOMEONE IS MANUALLY MAKING THOSE CHANGES AND IDENTIFYING THAT INDIVIDUAL AS DROPPING OFF, THEN THAT'S NOT RECORDED. THE INFORMATION THAT WE WOULD HAVE IS THOSE THAT DECLINE THE OFFER AFTER WE'VE MADE THE OFFICIAL OFFER, OR THEY TELL US THAT THEY'VE MOVED ON TO SOMETHING ELSE. JUST A QUICK COMMENT. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S EVEN POSSIBLE TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE DROP OFF. WHY, IF THERE WAS ANOTHER JOB, IF IT TOOK TOO LONG, BUT MAYBE SOME OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS COULD HELP US WITH OUR PROCESS BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONES WHO, YOU KNOW, SUFFERED THE CONSEQUENCES OF THE TIMELINE. SO THEY MIGHT HAVE SOME IDEAS AS CANDIDATES. LAST QUESTION. I APPRECIATE YOU PUBLISHING YOUR PROGRESS FROM THIS STUDY. THERE WERE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE COMPENSATION STUDY AS WELL. DO YOU HAVE A STATUS ON ON THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS? HAVE WE KIND OF GIVEN UP ON THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE A NEWER STUDY? HOW DO THOSE FUNCTION TOGETHER? SO THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE COMPENSATION STUDY, WE'VE NOT NECESSARILY GIVEN UP ON THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, LIKE THE PAY FOR PERFORMANCE WAS ONE. THE DIFFERENT INCENTIVE PROGRAMS IS ANOTHER. AGAIN, IT WAS NOT A PART OF BUDGET DISCUSSIONS. THIS GO AROUND. NOT TO SAY IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE COULD CONSIDER IN THE FUTURE. I'M SO SORRY. ONE MORE QUESTION, CHAIR. YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE'S ABOUT 40 PEOPLE THAT YOU PERSONALLY ARE IN CHARGE OF DECIDING TO HIRE. DO YOU FEEL LIKE OTHER DIRECTORS WHO ARE IN CHARGE OF HIRING ARE RESPECTING HR DECISIONS OR CHOICES THAT YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO MAKE TO SPEED UP THE PROCESS? DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE GETTING COLLABORATION FROM THEM AND COMPLIANCE FROM THEM TO MOVE THE PROCESS ALONG? OR DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE CONSTANTLY STRUGGLING WITH THEM TO SPEED THIS UP? I FEEL THAT I'M CONSTANTLY STRUGGLING, NOT NECESSARILY TO SPEED UP THE PROCESS, BUT JUST TO GET THAT COOPERATION AND MAKING CERTAIN THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR OFFERING A SALARY. WE DO AN EQUITY AND A PARITY REVIEW TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE NOT LEAPFROGGING OR CREATING COMPRESSION AND THOSE CHALLENGES DON'T EXIST DOWN THE LINE. BUT SOMETIMES I GET A LOT OF PUSHBACK ON HOW MUCH WE'RE ABLE TO OFFER, BUT WE'RE LIMITED ON WHAT WE CAN OFFER. AND THEN TO PUT A DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR. WANTS TO OFFER AT MARKET. AND WE'RE NOT AT MARKET, THEN WE CAN'T MAKE THAT AS AN OPTION. UNDERSTOOD. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE DEPUTY MAYOR OR THE MAYOR HIMSELF, BUT YOU CAN PROBABLY SENSE THE FRUSTRATION FROM COUNCIL. ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO. I SAY WE, BUT I WON'T BE HERE IN A FEW WEEKS. ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP SUPPORT YOU SO THAT YOU DO GET MORE COLLABORATION WITH DIRECTORS, MORE COMPLIANCE WITH THEM, SO THAT THEY'RE WORKING TOGETHER SO WE CAN MOVE THIS ALONG. I'M SURE MY COLLEAGUES WILL BE WILLING TO

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THAT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT OUR INTENT. I THINK THAT WHAT I WOULD ASK OF METRO COUNCIL IS YOUR COOPERATION AS WELL. IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, YOU CAN REACH OUT TO ME AND WE CAN TALK THROUGH. WE DON'T HAVE TO DO NAME CALLING OR CRITICISM OR THAT TYPE OF BEHAVIOR. IT'S UNACCEPTABLE. SO I THINK HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND LEARNING THE PROCESS AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT WE'RE UP AGAINST AND OR DEALING WITH WOULD BE BENEFICIAL. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE? THANK THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING TODAY. WE'LL WRAP UP HERE OKAY. FOR NOW I'M SURE LOTS OF CONVERSATIONS MOVING FORWARD. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THAT ANY NOTHING ELSE TO COME BEFORE

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