Oct 31, 2024 Budget Committee (trimmed)

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OH, OKAY. I'D LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER OUR BUDGET COMMITTEE TODAY IS THE 31ST OF OCTOBER. IT IS

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[2. O-230-24     AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 100, SERIES 2024, RELATING TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2024-2025 OPERATING BUDGET, BY TRANSFERRING $20,000 FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUND (DISTRICT 3) TO THE LOUISVILLE METRO COUNCIL GENERAL OPERATIONS (DISTRICT 3). Action Required By: April 24, 2025 Sponsors: Shameka Parrish-Wright (D-3) ]

DISTRICT THREE TO THE LOUISVILLE METRO COUNCIL, GENERAL OPERATIONS DISTRICT THREE.

SECOND CAN I SECOND. YOU CAN. SECOND PROPERLY MOTION AND SECOND. AND THEN I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU. COUNCILWOMAN PARISH. RIGHT. THANK YOU. HOLD ON ONE SECOND. I ALWAYS FORGET TO HAVE THEM READ THE STATEMENT. THIS MEETING IS BEING HELD PURSUANT TO KRS 61.826 AND COUNCIL RULE FIVE, A READ IN FULL. THERE YOU GO. WE'RE OFFICIAL. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

MISTER CHAIR. THANK YOU, COMMITTEE MEMBERS. THIS IS JUST US TAKING CARE OF SOME BUSINESS AT THE END OF THE YEAR. MOVING THINGS AROUND. WE DIDN'T SPEND A LOT IN THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, BUT WE'RE HAVING A GOOD NEIGHBOR AWARD, AND WE'RE DOING A LANDLORD AND RENTER SOLUTIONS.

AND SO WE'RE GOING TO WRAP UP THE YEAR WITH SOME EVENTS. SO THIS MONEY IS BEING TRANSFERRED TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE THINGS. CAN I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT? VERY GOOD. OKAY. AND I DON'T SEE ANY SPEAKERS. DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS. WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY COUNCILMAN RENO WEBER. SO THIS IS AN ORDINANCE CALL FOR ROLL CALL VOTE. PLEASE OPEN THE VOTING. COUNCILWOMAN.

COUNCILWOMAN MCCRANIE. THANK YO. COUNCILWOMAN MCCRANIE, I ACTUALLY. YES. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN FOWLER. YES. COUNCILMAN ELWIN. YES.

COUNCILMAN WEBER. NO. YES. JUST DON'T. JUST DON'T VOTE. JUST DON'T VOTE. JUST NOT VOTING. NOT HERE. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'VE GOT TO SAY THE SAME THING. I DON'T KNOW, DO WE LIKE THAT? COUNCILMAN BLACKWELL, YOU HAVE SEVEN YES VOTES. VERY GOOD ITEM. PASS THIS AND WE'LL GO TO

[3. O-240-24     AN ORDINANCE OF THE LOUISVILLE/JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT, KENTUCKY, AUTHORIZING THE REDEMPTION OF ITS INDUSTRIAL BUILDING REVENUE BONDS (VESTA DERBY OAKS PROJECT) SERIES 2022A AND TAXABLE SERIES 2022B AND THE RELEASE AND TRANSFER OF CERTAIN OBLIGATIONS AND LIENS OF THE BORROWER (AS DEFINED HEREIN) FOR OBLIGATIONS RELATED THERETO. Action Required By: April 24, 2025 Sponsors: Markus Winkler (D-17) ]

SEEING NONE. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE CALL FOR ROLL CALL. VOTE. PLEASE OPEN THE VOTING.

COUNCILWOMAN MCCRANIE. YES. COUNCILMAN OWEN. YES. COUNCILWOMAN FOWLER. YES.

COUNCILMAN WEBER. OKAY. YES. OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN CAN AND CAN I CALL ON COUNCILWOMAN PARRISH RIGHT FOR A SECOND? SHE NEEDS TO EXPLAIN HER VOTE. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. AND THANK YOU. COMMITTEE.

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VERY GOOD. I DON'T PASS THIS WILL GO TO CONSENT OLD BUSINESS. I MEAN. THE ITEM FOUR IS AN

[4. O-246-24     AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 080, SERIES 2023, ORDINANCE NO. 101, SERIES 2024, AND ORDINANCE NO. 100, SERIES 2024, RELATING TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2023-2024 CAPITAL BUDGET, FISCAL YEAR 2024-2025 CAPITAL BUDGET, AND FISCAL YEAR 2024-2025 OPERATING BUDGET, RESPECTIVELY, BY TRANSFERRING $126,030.10 FROM THE DISTRICT 6 CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE FUND TO THE DISTRICT 6 NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUND. Action Required By: April 24, 2025 Sponsors: Phillip T. Baker (D-6) ]

SEEING NO ONE IS IN THE QUEUE. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE CALL FOR ROLL CALL. VOTE. PLEASE OPEN THE VOTING. COUNCILWOMAN MCCRANIE. YES. COUNCILMAN OWEN. YES. COUNCILWOMAN FOWLER. YES. CHAIR.

LUCKILY, YOU HAVE EIGHT. YES VOTES. THANK YOU. ITEM PASSES. WE'LL GO TO CONSENT. AND NOW

[1. ID 24-0655     RESILIENCE AND COMMUNITY SERVICES QUARTERLY REPORT - Joshua Swetnam and Patricia Williams, Office of Resilience and Community Services]

INCLEMENT WEATHER PROGRAM WAS 402,000. OVERNIGHT SHELTER 580,000. AND OUR CASE MANAGEMENT OF 310,000. OH, SORRY. OUR EXTERNAL AGENCY FUNDS FOR PARTNERS. THIS IS THE EAF UTILIZING GENERAL FUNDS TO PROVIDE GRANTS TO NONPROFITS THAT SERVE THE UNHOUSED. A TOTAL OF 1.5 MILLION. I HAVE TO BEAR WITH ME A LITTLE BIT AS I GO BACK AND FORTH HERE. FEED LOUISVILLE. 18.61. 18,600 GOODWILL. ANOTHER WAY PROGRAM WAS 23,300. LEGAL AID 30,000.

DAY SHELTERING 65,000. CASE MANAGEMENT 77,000. NON HOMELESS GRANTS WERE 329,900. OVERNIGHT

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KEEP GOING. BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PART OF OUR REPORT, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BUDGET PIECE? LET ME SEE IF I HAVE ANYONE IN THE QUEUE. I CAN'T SEE THEM. I DO, MR. CHAIR. OH. I'M SORRY. COUNCILWOMAN PARISH. RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE APPRECIATE THE BREAKDOWN OF THIS. WHAT I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR SINCE OUR BUDGET PROCESS, THOUGH, IS I REALLY WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S BEING SPENT ON THE ENCAMPMENT. CLEARINGS THAT ARE FOR PUBLIC HEALTH, PUBLIC SAFETY. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A BREAKDOWN OF THAT. AND THEN WITH THE 925,000 TO IS IT THE OVERNIGHT SHELTER? 965,000. JUST THE NONE OF THE ENTITIES THAT ARE MENTIONED BEFORE IN ARE GETTING. THAT'S NOT PART OF WHAT THEY'RE GETTING. SO WHAT I JUST WANTED AN OVERVIEW OF WHERE THE WHERE THAT FUNDING IS GOING. IS IT A CERT LIKE I KNOW WAYSIDE IS ONE OF THE RECIPIENTS, BUT WHERE WHERE IS THAT GOING? BUT I THINK THIS IS REALLY GOOD. AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF BANG FOR THE BUCK HERE. I JUST WANT TO ALSO BREAK THAT DOWN. THE LAST THING IS THERE WAS SOME ISSUES THAT CAME UP WITH THE GOODWILL AND OTHER WAY PROGRAM. THERE WAS A BAD RECORDING THAT WENT OUT ABOUT WHAT WAS HAPPENING. THEY EXPLAINED THAT THEY GET A LOT OF MONEY FROM CITY GOVERNMENT FOR 23,000 IS NOT A LOT OF MONEY. SO I KNOW THAT THERE WAS JUST SOME MISCOMMUNICATIONS ON THAT. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING IN FRONT OF THAT BECAUSE THE WAY THAT IT WAS PRESENTED IS THAT WE PICKED THESE FOLKS UP. WE HAVE THEM CLEARING OUT THESE HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS, AND THE CITY PAYS US A LOT OF MONEY TO DO IT. AND I UNDERSTAND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT. I'VE BEEN A PART OF IT. BUT JUST BEING CAREFUL ON THAT, BECAUSE IT WHEN PEOPLE SAY THINGS LIKE THAT, IT LOOKS LIKE THE CITY IS FUNDING PEOPLE WHO ARE UNHOUSED TO GO CLEAR OUT, SOMETIMES THEIR OWN ENCAMPMENTS OR OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE UNHOUSED. AND THERE'S LIKE A LINE THAT WE WANT TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT. SO THAT WAS IT. SORRY. SURE. AND I KNOW THAT THIS IS A THIS IS A LOT OF INFORMATION IN A SMALL REPORT. AND ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO SAY IS THAT WE WANTED TO PROVIDE THE COUNCIL'S REQUEST THROUGH THE ORDINANCE WAS A REPORT ON HOMELESS SERVICES DIVISION, WHICH WE CERTAINLY WANTED TO PROVIDE ALL THE INFORMATION WE CAN, BUT WE ALSO WANTED TO JUST SHOW THE CITY'S ENGAGEMENT IN ADDRESSING HOUSELESSNESS OVERALL. BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF FUNDING THAT'S GOING OUT, PASSING THROUGH OR GOING DIRECTLY TO METRO TO ADDRESS THE UNHOUSED, THE HOUSELESS SITUATION. SO AGAIN, IF THERE'S ANY CONFUSION, I'M HAPPY TO TRY TO CLEAR THAT UP. BUT THE FIRST GRAPH IS TRULY HOMELESS SERVICES DIVISION'S BUDGET, WHICH IS ALL GENERAL FUNDS. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE MAJORITY OF THAT IS GOING OUT TO OUR PARTNERS THROUGH THE HOMELESS INITIATIVE FUND PROJECT, WHICH ARE TARGETED SERVICES AND PROGRAMS TO ADDRESS HOUSELESSNESS AND KEY PRIORITIES, NAMELY SHELTER, INCLEMENT WEATHER AND INTENSIVE CASE MANAGEMENT TO ADDRESS NEEDS OF THOSE WHO ARE ON THE STREET.

THE SMALLER PORTION IS OPERATIONS, WHICH INCLUDES MAINLY SALARIES AND FRINGE FOR OUR STAFF, WITH SOME SUPPLIES AND OTHER OPERATIONAL EXPENSES. BUT THOSE ARE GENERAL FUND DOLLARS. BUT THEN WHEN WE GET INTO AND SO YOU CAN DO A DIRECT LINE FROM THAT PORTION OF THE GRANT HOMELESS INITIATIVE FUNDS TO THE NEXT GRAPH. AND THAT'S HOW WE BREAK DOWN HOMELESS INITIATIVE FUNDS. OBVIOUSLY, 300,000 DIRECTLY TO LEGAL AID FOR THEIR PROJECT HELP.

INCLEMENT WEATHER FOR SAINT JOHN'S AND VOA AND PROVIDING THAT SPECIFIC TARGETED SERVICE DURING THE COLDEST MONTHS. JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE HOUSED, OFTENTIMES USING HOTEL VOUCHERS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT ON THE STREET DURING THE COLDEST MONTHS. CASE MANAGEMENT IS THAT INTENSIVE KIND OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH FOCUSED CASE MANAGEMENT, WHICH INVOLVES WELLSPRING, UP AND SOUTHWEST COMMUNITY MINISTRIES. AND THEN OVERNIGHT SHELTER DOES INCLUDE THE PORTION THAT WAS ALLOCATED FOR HOPE VILLAGE, WHICH WE KNOW THEY ARE MORE OF A TRANSITIONAL PROGRAM VERSUS AN OVERNIGHT SHELTER. BUT THAT AMOUNT DOES INCLUDE HOPE VILLAGE AS WELL AS FUNDING FOR SHELTER, WAYSIDE AND SAINT VINCENT DE PAUL. SO WHEN WE GET INTO THE THIRD GRAPH, WE'RE LOOKING AT EXTERNAL AGENCIES. SO THIS IS OUR TRADITIONAL EXTERNAL AGENCY PROGRAM WHERE WE'RE FUNDING PARTNERS. AND THAT'S WHY YOU DO HAVE 22% THAT INDICATES FUNDING FOR OTHER SERVICES BESIDES HOMELESS SERVICES. BECAUSE WE DO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR A LOT OF

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ANOTHER WAY, THIS IS JUST A VERY, VERY SMALL PORTION OF THEIR BUDGET TO HELP WITH SOME OPERATIONAL EXPENSES. WE KNOW THAT THE LARGE FUNDING THEY RECEIVE FROM METRO CAME FROM OPIOID OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUNDS THIS YEAR, RATHER THAN COMING FROM GENERAL FUNDS. SO IT'S NOT REPRESENTED IN THESE GRAPHS. BUT BUT THEY ARE WORKING CLOSELY AND JOHN CAN CERTAINLY SPEAK TO MORE DETAIL ABOUT OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH ANOTHER WAY. THEY'RE JUST NOT BEING FUNDED THROUGH GENERAL FUNDS OR OTHER GRANTS. AND THEN FINALLY, I'LL JUST SAY THAT WE WANTED TO, AGAIN, MAKE SURE WE JUST PRESENTED INFORMATION ABOUT HOW WE'RE ADDRESSING THE UNHOUSED POPULATION. SO WE HAVE WITHIN OUR CS A HOUSING AND SUPPORT DIVISION, WHICH IS SERVING, I THINK, APPROXIMATELY 350 HOUSEHOLDS THROUGH PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING VOUCHERS. SO WE ARE ACTUALLY INVOLVED IN HOUSING PEOPLE WHO ARE FORMERLY UNHOUSED. AND SO WE RECEIVE, YOU KNOW, OVER 4.5 MILLION. AND OF THAT, ABOUT 15% IS GOING TO MATCH, WHICH OFTENTIMES IS GENERAL FUNDS. WE ARE ENGAGED IN A REALLY CONCERTED EFFORT TO TRY TO USE MORE OF WHAT'S CALLED IN-KIND MATCH. YOU KNOW, OTHER COSTS RATHER THAN JUST GENERAL FUNDS, SO THAT WE CAN REDUCE THAT EXPENSE. BUT THAT IS THE PORTION WE HAVE TO KIND OF HAVE AS OUR COST SHARING. BUT THOSE ARE DIRECTLY HOUSING PEOPLE WHO FORMERLY WERE HOMELESS. AND SO, JOHN, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO US ON THIS GOODWILL? CAN I SHARE A QUESTION HERE BEFORE YOU MOVE INTO THAT? SO ON THE LEGAL AID ONE, WILL YOU REMIND ME AGAIN WHAT THAT PROJECT IS THAT IS THAT EVICTION? IT'S IT IS LEGAL SERVICES FOR THE UNHOUSED AND REPRESENTING THOSE WHO ARE AT RISK OR FACING EVICTION. OFTENTIMES THAT DOES CROSS OVER WITH OUR UNHOUSED POPULATION. OKAY. SO IT'S PROVIDING LEGAL REPRESENTATION FOR THOSE WHO WHO HAVE THE GREATEST NEED, WHO ARE NOT ESPECIALLY UNHOUSED, DON'T HAVE THOSE RESOURCES TO ACCESS ATTORNEYS, OR OFTENTIMES HAVE TROUBLE GETTING TO LEGAL AID. SO THEY GO TO THE TO THE CLIENTS, TO THEM. GOTCHA. ANY FOLLOW UP TO COUNCILWOMAN PARISH? RIGHT ON THE GOODWILL. ANOTHER WAY. SO IS THAT 23 THREE THAT IS THAT IS THAT YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW WHAT THE PERCENTAGE THAT WOULD BE IS THAT IS THAT THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT THEY SPEND ON THAT, OR IS THAT JUST A IS THAT OUR PORTION THAT WE PUT IN IN, IN GOODWILL MATCHES OR WHATEVER. THAT'S THAT'S JUST THE PORTION THAT THEY RECEIVED FROM OUR EXTERNAL AGENCY FUND. OKAY. GRANTS, YOU KNOW, OUR EXTERNAL AGENCY FUND GRANTS TEND TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN SOME OF OUR OTHER FUNDING STREAMS BECAUSE IT IS DIVIDED UP AMONGST SO MANY DIFFERENT NONPROFITS. RIGHT. SO THAT'S A VERY, VERY SMALL PORTION OF THEIR BUDGET. CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, WITH THE OVERALL PROGRAM BUDGET FOR ANOTHER WAY. IT JUST IT JUST PAYS FOR, I BELIEVE, SOME FOOD ASSISTANCE OR JUST SOME OTHER KIND OF BASIC OPERATIONS FOR, FOR SUPPLIES. VERY GOOD. IT'S A VERY SMALL AMOUNT. RIGHT. AND AS FAR AS GOODWILL, I RECENTLY SAW THAT INTERACTION. I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. IT PROBABLY A MISCOMMUNICATION ON THEIR PART. AND I'M SURE IF THEY HAD TO DO IT OVER AGAIN, THAT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN A DIFFERENT STANCE FOR THEM. WE DO ASK GOODWILL ANOTHER WAY PROGRAM TO KIND OF CLEAN UP ALONG HIGHWAYS, EXIT RAMPS, THAT KIND OF STUFF. SO THEY DO DO SOME WORK FOR OUR DEPARTMENT, INCLUDING SOME SMALL ENCAMPMENT RELOCATION CLEANINGS AFTER USUALLY PUBLIC WORKS COMES THROUGH. AND THAT LAST PART, HE TOOK CARE OF EVERYTHING ELSE WAS ABOUT THE ENCAMPMENT CLEARINGS, THE BREAKDOWN OF WHAT THAT COST PER CLEANING. YES, MA'AM. AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE IT NOW I GET IT, BUT. OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. WE'LL DO. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I DON'T HAVE ANYONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE UNLESS I CAN'T SEE THE SCREEN NOW. OH.

I'M SORRY. COUNCILMAN RENO WEBER. I JUST WANT TO COMMEND YOU ALL FOR YOUR ONGOING RESPONSIVENESS TO BOTH MOMENTS OF CRISIS AND BUILDING OUT THE CAPACITY OF OUR COMMUNITY TO SERVE THESE FOLKS WHO ARE OUR MOST VULNERABLE. I MEAN, JUST WATCHING THE PROGRESS THAT YOU ALL HAVE MADE OVER THE LAST YEAR HAS BEEN REALLY INSPIRING. AND I KNOW HAVING ENGAGED A LOT, PARTICULARLY ALONG BARDSTOWN ROAD, YOU KNOW, YOUR TEAMS HAVE JUST BEEN INCREDIBLY RESPONSIVE.

THEY'VE BEEN INCREDIBLY COMPASSIONATE. YOU KNOW, THE BOTH THE BUSINESS OWNERS AND THE FOLKS WHO ARE VERY MUCH INTERESTED IN THE WELL-BEING OF THE PEOPLE YOU SERVE HAVE JUST BEEN REALLY INCREASINGLY COMPLIMENTARY OVER TIME. SO I'M GRATEFUL TO YOU AND FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOUR TEAM DOES. AND I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE THAT THAT WAS IN THE RECORD. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN PIACENTINI. WELL, I WAS GOING TO WAIT TILL THEY WERE DONE, BUT YOU BEAT ME TO IT. SO, YEAH, I WANT TO JOIN COUNCILMAN WEBER. I MET WITH DEPUTY MAYOR GEORGE

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THERE WAS THERE WASN'T A STRATEGY. IT WAS JUST LIKE SOME PEOPLE OVER HERE DOING STUFF, SOME PEOPLE OVER HERE DOING OTHER THINGS, AND I THINK THE END GAME RESULTS WERE TERRIBLE.

I MEAN, WE WERE HEARING CONSTANTLY OF ISSUES AND WE COULDN'T GET AHEAD OF THE GAME.

ANECDOTALLY, I THINK THIS IS COMPLETELY TURNED AROUND. THIS IS 180 DEGREES DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE WERE DEALING WITH A YEAR TO TWO YEARS AGO. SO I WANT TO JOIN COUNCILMAN WEBER IN THANKING YOU ALL FOR THINKING ABOUT THIS, FOR WORKING PART. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF PLAYERS INVOLVED IN THIS. PARTNERING WITH ALL OF THEM IS NOT EASY. SOME, YOU KNOW, GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, YOU HAVE PRIVATE NOT FOR PROFITS. YOU HAVE OTHERS, YOU KNOW. SO BUT THANK YOU BECAUSE THE RESULTS ARE VERY SEEN AND IT MAKES AN IMPACT ON NOT ONLY OBVIOUSLY THE PRIMARY GOAL SHOULD BE THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THOSE THAT ARE HOMELESS IN THE CITY. BUT THE SECONDARY GOAL IS CONVEYING A SENSE OF SAFETY AND OPPORTUNITY ACROSS THE ENTIRE CITY THAT WE'RE TAKING THESE ISSUES SERIOUSLY. AND AS SOMEBODY WHO LIVES ON A ON A COUNTY BORDER DISTRICT, RIGHT, ENCOURAGING THOSE FOLKS TO AND I SEE THE HEAT MAP OF WHERE MOST OF THE HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS AND PROBLEMS HAVE BEEN. YOU KNOW, BEING MORE COMFORTABLE TO TRAVEL AND SPEND TIME AND MONEY IN THOSE DISTRICTS. RIGHT, BECAUSE THE CITY IS TAKING THIS SERIOUSLY AND DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT. MY ONLY ASK, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR FLIPPING FORWARD AND LOOKING AT ALL THE SLIDES. I'D LIKE TO DO THAT WHEN YOU GIVE IT TO ME AHEAD OF TIME. I I'M ALWAYS INTERESTED. I SEE HERE SOME EXCELLENT WHAT I'LL CALL ACTIVITY METRICS RIGHT IN THAT IT'S TELLING US HOW MANY CLIENTS AND HOW MANY SERVICES YOU'RE PROVIDING AND, AND ALL OF THESE DETAILS OF THE ACTIVITY THAT YOUR DEPARTMENTS ARE DOING. IT'S TERRIFIC. I'M CURIOUS IF WE CAN CREATE A, A AN OVERTIME OUTCOME. METRICS THAT WERE THE THAT YOU MAY ALREADY HAVE THEM THAT ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT. RIGHT. HOW MANY YOU KNOW I'D LOVE TO SEE OVER TIME WHICH AGAIN ANECDOTALLY I CAN ASSUME IS TRUE. WE HAVE LESS CAMPS ON THE STREET. WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE BEING SUPPORTED BY SHELTERS, THEREFORE LESS PEOPLE UNSUPPORTED. SO THOSE TYPES OF OUTCOME MEASURES THAT ARE THE IDEAL CIRCUMSTANCE, AND I'M SURE YOU'RE COMING TO TELL ME THAT YOU HAVE THEM AND YOU'RE GOING TO ABSOLUTELY. PATRICIA WILLIAMS, CO-DIRECTOR, RESILIENCE AND COMMUNITY SERVICES. SO WE ARE DOING SOME VERY INTENTIONAL WORK AROUND TRYING TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE OUTCOMES AND THE IMPACT OF ALL OF THE DOLLARS THAT ARE GOING INTO IMPACTING THE UNHOUSED COMMUNITY. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M REALLY PROUD OF, OUR DATA IS OVER HERE HAS HELPED US TO STREAMLINE REPORTING SO THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO TELL A BETTER STORY ACROSS ALL THE AGENCIES, FUNDED AROUND STEPS TOWARDS HOW HOUSING STABILITY. SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO SHARE SOME TRUE DATA AROUND THE IMPACT OF ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE. AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE HIRED A CONSULTING AGENCY, IQS, TO HELP US ANALYZE THAT DATA, TO BE ABLE TO REALLY LOOK FROM A WIDER LENS. HOW IS THIS WORK? AND THAT IMPACTS ASSISTING AND SUPPORTING COMMUNITY WELL-BEING? HOW ARE WE SEEING DECREASES IN 311 CALLS? HOW IS IT AFFECTING VIOLENCE AND JUST OVERALL THE REDUCTION IN COSTS THAT YOU KNOW, GO TO PUBLIC WORKS WHEN THERE IS A CLEANUP. SO WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO POSSIBLY AT THE NEXT QUARTERLY REVIEW, BEING ABLE TO SHARE SOME OF THE OUTCOMES OF THAT WORK. YEAH, BECAUSE THAT'S OUTSTANDING. BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A HUGE SUCCESS STORY HERE. AND ULTIMATELY THAT'S THE GOAL, RIGHT. IS THESE OUTCOMES THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR DRIVEN BY THESE ACTIVITIES. MEASURE THE ACTIVITIES AND THEN ULTIMATELY GET THE OUTCOME. SO I'M GLAD YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT. AND THEN THE ONLY AGAIN JUST CALL THIS A COMMENT I THINK WHAT PART OF THIS IS PART OF WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE. AND I HOPE THIS CONTINUES IS A CONSTANT EVALUATION OF THE DIFFERENT SERVICES. AGAIN, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE DOING A LOT OF THINGS RIGHT INDIVIDUALLY AND I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY GETTING A SENSE OF AS THIS BECOMES MORE STRATEGIC, WHAT'S WORKING AND WHAT'S NOT, THE THINGS THAT ARE WORKING, I THINK YOU'LL GET A LOT OF SUPPORT FROM COUNCIL ON OKAY, IF THAT'S WORKING AND THERE'S YOU KNOW, A RETURN ON IT, I'M WILLING TO INVEST IN IT OR SEE

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YEAH. THAT'S GREAT AND TERRIFIC. AGAIN, TERRIFIC DIRECTION. AND I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JUST A QUICK FOLLOW UP TO THAT. AND. ALSO BEING ABLE TO AS BEST YOU CAN. AND I KNOW THIS IS A VERY DIFFICULT THING TO ASK AS WELL. IF YOU HAVE FOLKS WHO ARE IN HOMELESS SITUATIONS AND YOU'RE FINDING WAYS TO GET THEM HOUSING AND SO ON, BUT AND THEN TRACKING THAT, NOT ONLY GETTING THEM IN, BUT THEN TRACKING, THEN DO THEY STAY IN HOUSING? DO THEY STAY, YOU KNOW, OR DO THEY END UP IN IN A FEW MONTHS TIME OR SIX MONTHS TIME OR A YEAR'S TIME? ARE WE ARE WE ARE THEY BACK IN THAT SITUATION AGAIN? AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS THAT SOUNDS TO ME JUST SAYING IT NOW THAT I JUST SAID IT SOUNDS LIKE AN INCREDIBLE HARD TASK TO DO.

WELL, THERE IS A SYSTEM IN PLACE, SO THERE'S A SOFTWARE SYSTEM CALLED I S AND JOSH CAN HELP ME WITH THIS ONE, BUT THAT SYSTEM IS CREATED AND KIND OF MANAGED THROUGH THE COALITION FOR THE HOMELESS. BUT IT'S THE SINGLE POINT OF ENTRY PROCESS THAT SAYS THAT WHEN A PERSON IS UNHOUSED, THEY GO THROUGH AN ASSESSMENT THROUGH THE COALITION AND THEY HELP DIRECT THEM TO PLACES THAT ARE ACCEPTING NEW FOLKS AND SO THROUGH THAT SYSTEM, EACH PLACE THEY GO IS TRACKED. IF THEY ARE RECEIVING CASE MANAGEMENT. SO WHAT WE HAVE TRIED TO ENFORCE IS DIRECTOR SWETNAM AND I ARRIVED IS JUST REALLY CONTINUOUSLY AND CONSISTENTLY USING THAT SYSTEM.

IT'S NOW REQUIREMENT FOR ALL OF OUR PARTNER AGENCIES BECAUSE WE REALIZE OUR OBLIGATION AND THAT IF THERE'S NO DATA, IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. SO THAT'S REALLY GOING TO HELP AND ASSIST WITH OUR EVALUATION WORK WITH THE CONSULTING FIRM WE HIRED AS WEL. RIGHT? I THINK THAT'S FRANKLY, I THINK THE CONSULTING FIRM IS WISE AS WELL. SO THAT'S GOOD WORK. I WILL ECHO WHAT OTHERS HAVE SAID AS WELL. YOU ARE DOING GREAT WORK IN THESE THINGS ARE NOT EASY. IF THEY WERE, YOU WOULD HAVE THEM ALL SOLVED. ANYONE ELSE? SEEING NONE. I THINK THAT WRAPS US UP. THANK

[Adjournment Note: Agendas are followed at the discretion of the Chair. While an item may be listed, it does not mean all items will be heard and/or acted upon by the Committee.]