Oct 29, 2024 Government Oversight/Audit and Appointments Committee (trimmed)

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ALL RIGHT, FOLKS, WE'VE JUST MADE A QUORUM. SO THIS IS THE REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE GOVERNMENT OVERSIGHT, AUDIT AND APPOINTMENTS COMMITTEE. PRESIDENT CHAMBERS, AS

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[2. AP102924MH     APPOINTMENT OF MARILYN HARRIS TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND BOARD. (TERM EXPIRES DECEMBER 31, 2027) Action Required By: April 24, 2025 Sponsors: ]

ALTHEA JACKSON, MAYOR GREENBERG'S OFFICE. THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND.

THERE ARE 13 MEMBERS ON THIS BOARD. THE METRO COUNCIL HAS AN EX OFFICIO MEMBER APPOINTED BY THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT, WHICH IS CURRENTLY COUNCILWOMAN TAMMY HAWKINS. THIS BOARD SERVES FOR THREE YEARS. THIS. THIS BOARD HAS PRESCRIBED SEATS. THIS SEAT THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, MARILYN HARRIS, IS TO FILL A MEMBER AT LARGE. AS YOU KNOW, MARILYN HARRIS HAS RETIRED FROM METRO GOVERNMENT. SHE WAS THE DIRECTOR OF HOUSING. AND SERVED AS METRO'S REP WHEN SHE WAS WITH METRO GOVERNMENT. WE WANT SOME CONSISTENCY THERE. SO WE WILL WE ARE ASKING FOR HER APPOINTMENT.

SHE IS OUT OF DISTRICT 16. SHE IS A REPUBLICAN. IS SHE OKAY? SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ON TEXTED ME AND SAID THAT SHE NEEDED THE LINK AND STUFF, BUT SHE. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD IN ASKING FOR HER APPOINTMENT. ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS OR ANYTHING AT ALL? REASON TO HOLD THIS UP. HEARING NONE. THAT'S APPOINTMENT REQUIRES A VOICE VOTE. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. IN OPPOSITION. HEARING NO OPPOSITION. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. SHALL BE SENT TO

[3. AP102924DT     APPOINTMENT OF DIONNE TEMPLETON TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND BOARD. (TERM EXPIRES DECEMBER 31, 2027) Action Required By: April 24, 2025 Sponsors: ]

DION. TEMPLETON TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND BOARD, A TERM THAT EXPIRES DECEMBER 31ST, 2027. IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION. SECOND ITEM BEFORE US, MISS JACKSON, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. OKAY, WE ARE ASKING FOR THIS APPOINTMENT. AS I SAID EARLIER, THIS BOARD HAS PRESCRIBED SEATS. AND SO THIS SEAT THAT WE ARE FILLING IS FOR THE BUILDING INDUSTRY. THIS IS THEIR REPRESENTATIVE. AND SO MISS TEMPLETON WILL BE FILLING THIS SEAT. SHE IS WITH CENTURY ENTERTAINMENT AND FURNISHINGS. SHE IS HERE TO INTRODUCE HERSELF TO YOU GUYS. YOU WANT TO COME U? GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS DION TEMPLETON AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR THIS APPOINTMENT. AND I WELCOME ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE FOR ME. FIRST OF ALL, YOU'RE WITH CENTURY ENTERTAINMENT ON SHOVEL ROAD. YES. THAT'S CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS REGARDING THIS APPOINTMENT? OKA. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE TODAY. COULD YOU TELL US ABOUT YOUR BACKGROUND IF ANY, IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WHAT YOU WOULD ENVISION FOR LOUISVILLE'S FUTURE AROUND IT? SURE. I DON'T HAVE A BACKGROUND IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING. NO EXPERIENCE IN IT.

THE DESIRE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS, THIS FIELD OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, HONESTLY, IS JUST A LITTLE BIT. I'LL GIVE YOU A BRIEF SYNOPSIS OF JUST MY EXPERIENCE OF HAVING CARED FOR MY DAD THE LAST FIVE YEARS OF HIS LIFE AND JUST LEARNING A LOT ABOUT HOW HE SERVED AND HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM, HIM BEING IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, HIM HAVING A BACKGROUND, SERVING IN ARMY, NAVY AND MARINES AND BEING IN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND JUST HIM HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT JUST LIFE IN GENERAL AND BEING A SERVANT AND THEN HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE ON THE BOARD OF AT THE BIA WITH BUILDERS AND DEVELOPERS, KNOWING THAT THERE'S A NEED, THERE'S A VOID, THERE'S A GAP THERE. AND THAT'S WHERE THE INTEREST CAME. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. IF YOU

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YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. I DO NOT OPPOSE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN ANY NEIGHBORHOOD, IN ANY AREA OF LOUISVILLE OR IN KENTUCKY. I FEEL THAT EVERYONE DESERVES A ROOF OVER THEIR HEAD, A PLACE TO LIVE, A PLACE TO CALL HOME. AND I THINK I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING BE ADMITTED ALOUD IN EVERY PART OF IN EACH COUNTY IN KENTUCKY. SO I AM FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING EVERYWHERE IN THE STATE OF KENTUCKY. EXCUSE ME. I HAD I'M SORRY, I HAD TO CONSULT WITH THE CHAIR, AND I PERIOD THAT I WAS BEING RUDE. THAT'S OKAY. BUT I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS. I'M GOING TO SHARE. I'M CONCERNED WITH YOU HAVING A DEVELOPMENT GROUP, AND IT LOOKS LIKE YOUR GROUP BILLS AND DEVELOP AFFORDABLE UNITS. AND SO I HAVE A CONCERN IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A CONFLICT WITH YOU BEING ON THE BOARD AT THE LOUISVILLE AFFORDABLE TRUST FUND. I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, I'M NOT REAL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. WITH YOU BEING A DEVELOPE.

OKAY. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR HONESTY. SO WITH ME BEING A DEVELOPER, IT'S A NEW BUSINESS THAT I STARTED. AND IT IS, IT WILL BE. I WILL BE DEVELOPING AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IT WILL BE MODULAR HOMES. AND THE AREA THAT I'M GEARING TOWARD IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. MODULAR HOMES. SO WILL YOU BE SEEKING FUNDING FROM THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND IF THAT OPPORTUNITY PRESENTS ITSELF? YES. CHAIR ATKINSON, CAN WE DO A ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE? WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO ROLL CALL BECAUSE SHE ALSO WORKED FOR CENTURY. I DO SOME LEGAL WORK FOR CENTURY. AND SO THE OTHER DAY I'M GOING TO HAVE TO ABSTAIN. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS REGARDING THIS APPOINTMENT? HEARING NONE. THIS IS AN APPOINTMENT. IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE A ROLL CALL. VOTE. MADAM CHAIR OR MADAM CLERK, IF YOU'LL CALL THE ROLL. COMMITTEE MEMBER PARRISH. RIGHT? YES. ANDERSON.

I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN FOR THE REASONS STATED ON THE RECORD. YOU HAVE THREE? YES, TWO NO, ONE ABSTENTION AND ONE PRESENT. THAT ITEM PASSES AND IT SHALL GO TO OLD BUSINESS. MADAM, THANK YOU

[4. RP102924SS     REAPPOINTMENT OF STEPHEN SULLIVAN TO THE AIR POLLUTION CONTROL DISTRICT BOARD. (TERM EXPIRES NOVEMBER 29, 2027) Action Required By: April 24, 2025 Sponsors: ]

102924 SS. THE REAPPOINTMENT OF STEPHEN SULLIVAN TO THE AIR POLLUTION CONTROL DISTRICT BOARD, A TERM THAT EXPIRES NOVEMBER 29TH, 2027. IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION. I FORCED MISS JACKSON. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. SO, MR. SULLIVAN WASN'T ABLE TO BE HERE TONIGHT. HE HAD A CONFLICT, BUT WE ARE ASKING FOR HIS REAPPOINTMENT. HE WAS ORIGINALLY APPOINTED IN 2018. HE GRADUATED FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF KENTUCKY WITH HIS GEOLOGY DEGREE. NOW HE'S RETIRED. HE VOLUNTEERS IN THE COMMUNITY ON VARIOUS BOARDS. HE'S BEEN A DEDICATED BOARD MEMBER. WE ARE ASKING FOR THIS REAPPOINTMENT. ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT WOULD RECUSE AS A REASON TO HOLD THIS UP? COUNCILWOMAN, YOU GOT THE FLOOR. THANK YOU. CHAIR. JUST AN FYI, THE RESUME THAT WE HAVE FOR THIS INDIVIDUAL IS SO SMALL THAT WHEN YOU ZOOM IN, YOU CAN'T READ IT AT ALL. AND SO IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO DO YOUR HOMEWORK ON AN INDIVIDUAL. BUT. AND I WISH THAT I WAS HERE TO ASK HIM WHY HE WOULD LIKE TO BE ON THE AIR POLLUTION CONTROL DISTRICT, BUT HE'S NOT HERE. SO RESUME. WELL, I'LL BE VOTING PRESENT ON IT. OKAY. UNLESS YOU WANTED TO HOLD THE APPOINTMENT AND GIVE HIM THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESUBMIT HIS RESUME AND OR COME IN FRONT OF US. WELL, TWO THINGS I WOULD SAY

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NUMBER TWO, I WOULD SAY THIS IF YOU'RE GOING TO HOLD IT UP, THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE A MOTION FROM YOU, A SECOND FROM SOMEBODY ELSE, AND THEN A VOTE ON OUR PART. NUMBER THREE IS IF YOU WANT TO VOTE, PRESENT, THAT'S FINE. IT'LL GO TO OLD BUSINESS. CORRECT. I'M FINE WITH YOUR THIRD OPTION. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS REGARDING THIS APPOINTMENT? HEARING NONE.

THIS APPOINTMENT REQUIRES THAT ACTUALLY WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH ROLL CALL FOR THE PRESENT. THANK YOU. MADAM CLERK, IF YOU CAN CALL THE ROLL. COMMITTEE MEMBER PERRY. RIGHT. YES. YOU HAVE SIX.

YES. AND ONE PRESENT VOTE. THAT PASSES. AND SHALL BE SENT TO OLD BUSINESS. THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR

[5. AP102924WN     APPOINTMENT OF WILLIAM NETT TO THE COMMISSION FOR PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES. (TERM EXPIRES DECEMBER 12, 2028) Action Required By: April 24, 2025 Sponsors: ]

HE HAS A BACHELORS OF ARTS IN JOURNALISM WITH AN EMPHASIS ON SOCIOLOGY FROM WESTERN KENTUCKY.

SO HE HAS BEEN A FAITHFUL MEMBER ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE BECAUSE HE IS SO ACTIVE WITH THIS COMMUNITY. WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE HIM TO THE ACTUAL COMMISSION, WHERE HE WOULD HAVE A VOTE. HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE CALL, BUT HE OH, HE DID GET ON OKAY. WONDERFUL. MISTER NET. IF YOU WANT TO IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD, IF YOU WANT TO IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, SIR. THE. AND I WON'T. BOTH OF THE. SAID I'M WILLIAM COREY NET. AND I WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES AND BEING LATE. NOT A PROBLEM. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS REGARDING THIS APPOINTMENT? NO. BOARD. THE BOARD OF. LIKE SHE SAID, I'VE BEEN GOING TO MEETINGS FOR THE BETTER PART OF A YEAR. I. MY. NAME. IS THAT I AM THE. THE. AND I THINK WITH MY INVOLVEMENT IN THE COMMUNITY THAT I WILL BE AN ASSET TO THIS COMMISSION. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS FROM THE COMMITTEE REGARDING THIS APPOINTMENT? HEARING NONE.

THIS APPOINTMENT THAT REQUIRES A VOICE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSITION? HEARING NO OPPOSITION THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY SHALL BE SENT TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. MR. NET. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THIS COMMUNITY. AND YOU'VE GOT SOME GREAT ARTWORK THERE BEHIND YOU THERE. THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM, OUR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX, PP.

[6. RP102924DF     REAPPOINTMENT OF DONNA FOX TO THE COMMISSION FOR PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES. (TERM EXPIRES DECEMBER 12, 2028) Action Required By: April 24, 2025 Sponsors: ]

THAT WOULD BE A SECOND. SO THE END RESULT IS IT'S PROPERLY BEFORE US. MISS JACKSON, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. SO MISS FOX WAS ORIGINALLY APPOINTED IN 2019. AGAIN THESE ARE FOUR YEAR TERMS. SHE IS CURRENTLY THE CO CHAIR OF THIS BOARD. SHE SERVES AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF AN ORGANIZATION THAT REPRESENTS PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES. SHE WORKS FOR THE CENTER FOR ACCESSIBLE LIVING. SHE MANAGES PEER GROUPS FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES. SHE IS ON THIS CALL AND SHE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE FOR HER. MISS FOX, IF YOU WANT TO IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. MADAM. HI. YEAH, THIS IS DONNA,

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FANTASTIC. ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS REGARDING THIS APPOINTMENT? HEARING NONE. THIS APPOINTMENT REQUIRES A VOICE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSITION? HEARING NO OPPOSITION THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY SHALL BE SENT TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. MISS FOX, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THIS COMMUNITY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THE NEXT ITEM, AGENDA

[7. AP102924DH     APPOINTMENT OF DEBORAH RUCKRIEGEL HENDRICK TO THE JEFFERSONTOWN FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT BOARD. (TERM EXPIRES JUNE 30, 2027) Action Required By: April 24, 2025 Sponsors: ]

COUNCILMAN KRAMER WOULD LIKE TO KNOW. I'M SORRY. SAY IT AGAIN. WHEN WILL IT BE ON THE BALLOT AGAIN? WHEN WILL PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE A CHANCE TO CHOOSE A REPRESENTATIVE? THIS ONE WILL GO TO. LET ME SEE. I'M SURE THERE'S A DATE IN THERE, I APOLOGIZE, I SHOULD HAVE LOOKED AT IT. YEAH.

HOLD ON ONE SECOND. 2027 FOR THIS PARTICULAR SEAT. BUT THERE ARE SOME OTHER SEATS THAT WILL COME UP NEXT YEAR. ONE OTHER SEAT WILL COME UP AND THAT'S FOR A FIREFIGHTER ELECT. PROPERTY OWNER ELECT WILL COME UP. AND THIS ONE IS SHE'S FILLING THE REMAINDER OF THIS TERM. SO THE OTHER ONE WILL COME UP IN FOUR YEARS. WON'T BE TO 28. THANK YO. MADAM, IF YOU WANT TO IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. YES. MY NAME IS DEBBIE HENDRICK. I HAVE BEEN A PROPERTY OWNER IN JEFFERSON TOWN FOR 28 YEARS. I HAVE ALWAYS LIVED IN JEFFERSON TOWN, AND I FIND IT AN HONOR JUST TO EVEN BE NOMINATED AND TO BE ABLE TO COME TO SPEAK BEFORE YOU GUYS, ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? NOT A CONCERN. NOT A CONCERN AT ALL. WELL, FOR SOME OF YOU, IT MAY BE I'M GOING TO ASK STRONGLY FOR A VOTE IN FAVOR. I TAUGHT THIS YOUNG WOMAN SOME JUST LIKE A COUPLE YEARS AGO. YEAH, AT LEAST 3 OR 4 YEARS AGO. YES. YEAH. LONG TIME AGO. MIGHT HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BIT LONGER, BUT ANYWAY, SHE'S DONE GREAT THINGS OUT IN TOWN AND AS WAS MENTIONED, IS DOING WORK WITH THE CITY AND IS IN CHARGE OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT OUT THERE. AND THAT'S NOT HER FIRST POSITION WITH TOWN. SO LOTS OF EXPERIENCE OUT THERE. DONE SOME REALLY GOOD THINGS. NOTWITHSTANDING THE FACT THAT SHE SUFFERED THROUGH HAVING ME AS A TEACHER. THANK YOU, MR. KRAMER. I PRESUME, ARE YOU IN RELATION TO MAYOR RUCKRIEGEL? THAT WAS MY FATHER, YES. AND SO SHE'S BEEN INVOLVED EVEN LONGER THAN SHE CARES TO ADMIT. YES. INVOLVED SINCE BIRTH? YES. THERE YOU GO. PUTTING UP YARD SIGNS AS A TEENAGER IS NOT A COOL THING. PROBABLY NOT. NO. ALRIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, COUNCILWOMAN? SURE. MY FRIEND LIVED OFF OF RUCKRIEGEL. SO YOU DO HAVE QUITE A BIT OF J TOWN HISTORY JUST IN YOUR NAME? SO YOU'RE THE J TOWN PARKS DEPARTMENT COMPRISES OF TWO PARKS AND A FEW RECREATIONAL FACILITIES. IS THAT CORRECT? MY

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[8. RP102924DO     REAPPOINTMENT OF DOUGLAS OWEN TO THE LANDMARKS AND PRESERVATION DISTRICT COMMISSION. (TERM EXPIRES NOVEMBER 30, 2027) Action Required By: April 24, 2025 Sponsors: ]

HE'S BEEN A DEDICATED MEMBER TO THIS PARTICULAR BOARD. WE ARE ASKING FOR HIS REAPPOINTMENT.

HE'S HERE TONIGHT IN THE CHAMBERS. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR HIM, HE'S HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. MR. OWEN, IF YOU WANT TO IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, SIR. GOOD EVENING. DOUG OWEN WITH JLL. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND I HOPE TO BE REAPPOINTED TO THE BOARD. ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? YES, COUNCILWOMAN. HI.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE TODAY. CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT SINCE YOU ARE A REAPPOINTMENT, CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCE ON THE LANDMARKS COMMISSION SO FAR? MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE OR CASES I'VE HEARD. ARE YOU ASKING? I GUESS IN SOME WAYS, THOSE ARE KIND OF INTERTWINED, YOU KNOW, LIKE, HOW DO YOU FEEL THAT YOU KNOW, SO MY PERSONAL OPINION, IT'S BEEN I MEAN, THE STAFF IS GREAT. IT'S BEEN A GOOD EXPERIENCE. I DO THINK THAT AND THIS IS NOT LANDMARKS, BUT THIS IS PLANNING AND ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT IN LOUISVILLE NEEDS NEEDS WORK.

IT'S I THINK THE LATEST CASE THAT CAME THROUGH WAS THE RABBIT HOLE DISTILLERY, AND THEY PRESENTED A LIST OF ABOUT SEVEN TIMES THAT THEY WERE REQUIRED TO GO BEFORE OTHER BOARDS TO GET APPROVAL FOR THEIR PROJECT, WHICH THAT'S NOT LANDMARKS, IS JUST ONE OF THOSE. I ALSO SIT ON NULU, SO I THINK THE WHOLE PROCESS IS A LITTLE CONVOLUTED AND MAKES IT DIFFICULT. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S NOT LANDMARKS, THAT'S THAT'S IN GENERAL, BUT THE PROCESS ITSELF HAS BEEN VERY GOOD. AND I JUST ONE MORE THING. IT'S NOT A QUESTION FOR YOU, BUT JUST A COMMENT BECAUSE WE LOVE CALLING IT OUT. OUT OF TEN APPOINTMENTS TODAY, THREE OF THEM ARE FROM DISTRICT 16. SO JUST PUTTING THAT OUT FIRST. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? HEARING NONE. THIS APPOINTMENT REQUIRES A VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE AYE. ANY OPPOSITION? HEARING NO OPPOSITION THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY SHALL BE SENT TO CONSENT. CALENDAR. MR. OWEN.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SERVICE. THANK YOU. THE NEXT ITEM, OUR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER

[9. AP102924SB     APPOINTMENT OF SHARON BOND TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. (TERM EXPIRES OCTOBER 1, 2027) Action Required By: April 24, 2025 Sponsors: ]

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THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. THANK YOU. MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. NEXT, I'LL BE ON

[10. AP102924SL     APPOINTMENT OF STEPHEN LANNERT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. (TERM EXPIRES OCTOBER 1, 2027) Action Required By: April 24, 2025 Sponsors: ]

MISS JACKSON, YOU HAVE THE FLOO. SO MR. LEONARD HAS EARNED HIS LAW DEGREE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF LOUISVILLE. HE SERVES ON VARIOUS BOARDS IN THE CITY. HE IS FILLING A SEAT THAT BECAME VACANT DUE TO A MEMBER NOT BEING ABLE TO BE REAPPOINTED. MR. LEONARD WORKS WITH JLL. HE IS ALSO HERE IN THE CHAMBER TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. MR. LEONARD, IF YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, SIR. MY NAME IS STEPHEN LEONARD.

THANK U FOR INVITING ME TO THE COMMITTEE MEETING. THIS EVENING. ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS REGARDING THIS APPOINTMENT? HEARING NONE. THIS APPOINTMENT REQUIRES A VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I. I AYE. ANY OPPOSITION? HEARING NO OPPOSITION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY SHALL BE SENT TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. MR. LEONARD, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. THANK YOU,

[11. RP102924WF     REAPPOINTMENT OF WILLIAM FISCHER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. (TERM EXPIRES OCTOBER 1, 2027) Action Required By: April 24, 2025 Sponsors: ]

ALL RIGHT, FOLKS, THAT ENDS THE APPOINTMENTS. SO WE'RE GOING TO JUMP TO THE ONE PIECE OF

[1. O-239-24     AN ORDINANCE OF THE LOUISVILLE/ JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE ANNEXATION BY THE CITY OF JEFFERSONTOWN OF A TRACT OF LAND ADJOINING THE EXISTING BOUNDARY OF THE CITY OF JEFFERSONTOWN AND BEING ADJACENT TO AND CONTIGUOUS WITH THE PRESENT BOUNDARY OF SAID CITY AND ITS BOUNDARY WITH TUCKER STATION ROAD, BUT NOT CONTIGUOUS TO THE BOUNDARY OF THE FORMER CITY OF LOUISVILLE, AND BEING IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF THE FORMER COUNTY OF JEFFERSON. Action Required By: April 24, 2025 Sponsors: Kevin Kramer (R-11) ]

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THERE ARE A COUPLE WHEREASES THAT WE TYPICALLY INCLUDED IN THESE IN THESE ANNEXATIONS. AND SO WE DID WANT TO AMEND IT TO INCLUDE THOSE. WHEREAS IT'S JUST KIND OF TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE KIND OF IMPORTANT TO US. I'LL, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO TRAVIS FEASTER HERE IN A MINUTE.

OUR OWN COUNTY, OUR OWN ATTORNEY WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. AND HE'LL EXPLAIN EXACTLY WHICH, WHEREAS IS WHERE WE'RE AT. AND THE IMPACT OF THOSE IT'S THINGS LIKE THERE'S AN ONGOING DISCUSSION BETWEEN MSD AND THE CITY OF JEFFERSONTOWN ABOUT WHAT AN ANNEXATION LIKE THIS WOULD MEAN. OUR PARTICIPATION IN THIS IS IN NO WAY, SHAPE OR FORM TAKING A POSITION WITH EITHER THE CITY OF JEFFERSONTOWN OR WITH MSD. SO WE'RE BASICALLY SAYING WHATEVER THEIR DISPUTE IS, IS THEIR DISPUTE. OUR VOTE ON THIS IS NOT TOUCHING THAT DISPUTE, RIGHT. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE WHEREASES. TRAFFIC WOULD TRAVIS WILL DO A BETTER JOB EXPLAINING THE OTHER WHEREASES. AND THEN AGAIN, THE ATTORNEY FROM J-TOWN, I'M SURE WOULD LIKE TO EXPLAIN THEIR POSITION. AND THEN WITH THE WHEREASES THAT'S THAT ARE BEING ADDED TONIGHT. THE, THE AMENDMENTS THAT WE'RE MAKING, WE FELT LIKE IT MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS AS AN AMENDMENT BY SUBSTITUTION. AND COUNCILMAN BENSON IS GOING TO SPONSOR THE AMENDMENT BY SUBSTITUTION. SO AT SOME POINT, I'M SURE WE MAY WANT TO THROW THE FLOOR TO COUNCILMAN BENSON IF HE WANTS TO SPEAK. SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM FROM TRAVIS. WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM YOU THE SECOND TRAVIS. AND THEN FROM THERE, THE AMENDMENTS. WE'RE GOING TO DO ONE BUNDLED UP AMENDMENT BY SUBSTITUTION. THAT'D BE A MOTION ON THAT. YES.

SECOND ON THAT. WE'LL VOTE ON THAT AND THEN IT'LL BE PROPERLY BEFORE US. SO WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO J-TOWN. EXACTLY THAT OR STUART, WHICHEVER. WHOEVER. AND I'M NOT SURE IF COUNCILMAN BENSON WANTS TO SPEAK TO THIS OR NOT. I'LL SAY I REACHED OUT. HE AND I SPOKE EARLIER IN THE WEEK ABOUT WHAT THIS WOULD ALL MEAN. AND I KNOW HE'S JOINED US FOR THE MEETING. HE'S NOT NECESSARILY PART OF THE COMMITTEE, SO WE'LL GIVE HIM AN OPPORTUNITY AFTER. THANK YOU.

TRAVIS. TRAVIS, YOU GOT THE FLOOR. TAKE IT AWAY. THANK YOU, MISTER CHAIR. TRAVIS FEASTER, ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY HERE. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT MOUTHFUL OF A TITLE. IT WAS AN ATTEMPT TO SORT OF SYNERGIZE J. TOWN'S ORDINANCE LANGUAGE WITH WHAT WE'VE USED HISTORICALLY.

OFTENTIMES, THE MORE RECENT ONES ARE THESE WE'VE SEEN HAVE BEEN NEIGHBORHOODS. AND SO THOSE HAVE BEEN QUICKER AND EASIER TO STATE THAN CONTIGUOUS PARCELS AND ALL THAT. COUNCILMAN KRAMER DID A GOOD JOB OF INTRODUCING SORT OF WHAT THE GENERAL AMENDMENTS ARE. MOST OF THIS LANGUAGE IS PRETTY STANDARD LANGUAGE FOR ANY ANNEXATION WE SEE. I DID ADD SOME LANGUAGE IN THE INITIAL SUBMITTAL THAT DEALT WITH THE CHANGES TO STATE LAW. BECAUSE THERE IS A GREATER THAN 75%. OF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF VOTES CAST IN THE AREA IN THE LAST ELECTION. OF THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO REQUESTED THIS ANNEXATION, METRO COUNCIL IS REQUIRED TO APPROVE UNDER THE NEW CRS. IT'S A BIT OF A STRANGE CALCULATION, BUT J TOWN LAID OUT VERY NICELY ALL THE SORT OF CONSENT FORMS AND THE VOTER DATA. AS WELL AS AN AFFIDAVIT. SO THEY DO APPEAR TO HAVE MET THAT THRESHOLD TO REQUIRE METRO COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THIS ANNEXATION. WE DID INCLUDE SOME WHEREAS CLAUSES REGARDING MSD AT MSD'S REQUEST. WE HAVE DONE THAT FOR THE LAST SEVERAL J TOWN ANNEXATIONS. I THINK 3 OR 4 OF THEM. AGAIN, PRETTY STANDARD LANGUAGE THAT JUST SAYS WE ARE NOT BY APPROVING THIS ANNEXATIO, INTENDING TO INTERFERE WITH THEIR RELATIONSHIP AT ALL. YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT THE ANNEXATION. NO MSD RELATED DRAINAGE SEWER QUESTIONS. THERE ISN'T A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL WHEREAS CLAUSES JUST AFTER THE MSD RELATED ONES REGARDING ROADWAYS THAT I WORKED ON IN CONJUNCTION WITH PUBLIC WORKS. THE SHORT VERSION IS THIS IS A BIT UNUSUAL IN THAT BOTH SOUTH PUBLIC ROAD AND TUCKER STATION ROAD ARE METRO THROUGH ROADS.

AND THERE IS SOME STATUTES THAT DEAL SPECIFICALLY WITH THROUGH ROADS AND IN METRO. AND IT REALLY GIVES COUNCIL SOLE DISCRETION OVER WHAT IS AND IS NOT A THROUGH ROAD. AND WHEN THOSE GET TAKEN OUT OF THE SYSTEM. THIS ANNEXATION HAS NOT UNDERGONE OR HAS NOT BEEN JOINED WITH THE PROCESS TO REMOVE THESE FROM THE THROUGH ROAD SYSTEM. SO EVEN THOUGH THE BOUNDARIES OF

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SURE. SO. WE'VE BEEN NEUTERED IN THIS SITUATION. WE'RE REQUIRED TO PASS THIS CORRECT? CORRECT.

ARE WE REQUIRED TO PASS THIS JUST AS A BODY, OR IS EACH MEMBER REQUIRED TO VOTE? YES.

THERE'S NO THE CRA DOESN'T INDICATE THAT INDIVIDUALS HAVE TO VOTE YES. AND SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S ABSOLUTELY REQUIRED. I WOULD YOU KNOW, IT I THINK IT WOULD BE AN ISSUE AN ISSUE OR AN ERROR TO SUBMIT SOME SORT OF ALTERNATIVE ORDINANCE THAT WOULD OVERTURN. AND THE LEGAL EFFECT IS THAT ONCE 60 DAYS PASS OF OUR RECEIPT. THIS IS AUTOMATICALLY APPROVED ANYWAY. SO I, I'D PREFER TO NOT BE IN THE POSITION WHERE COUNCIL VOTES BY MAJORITY. NO. AND THEN WE HAVE TO SORT OF FIGURE OUT HOW THE STATE WANTS TO ENFORCE ITS STATUTE. BUT I THINK BECAUSE BY OPERATION OF LAW, IT GOES INTO EFFECT ANYWAY, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE RESULT IS THAT WE WOULD JUST GET IGNORED MORE OR LESS. GOTCHA. COUNCILMAN BENSON, ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS OR COMMENTS? THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO SAY IS THAT THIS IS THE BLUEGRASS INDUSTRIAL PARK, WHERE IT USED TO BE CALLED, AND J-TOWN KNOWS BEST ABOUT IT. AND WITH THE STREETS AND ROADS AND STUFF, I THINK THIS IS A PRETTY GOOD THING FOR THEM TO ANNEX FOR THEIR FOR THEIR INDUSTRIAL PARK. SO I'M, I'M, I'M FOR THIS. THANK YOU. ANYBODY HAVE ANY IDEA HOW LONG AGO WE PAVED THE ROADS? THAT WAS MY QUESTION. KEEP IN MIND THAT THE THREE ROADS ARE. THE THREE ROADS REMAIN OURS. SO WE'RE NOT GIVING OVER ROADS. WE'RE NOT GIVING OVER THREE ROADS.

COUNCILMAN, I HAD A QUESTION. THANK YOU. SO, JUST IN LINE WITH COUNCILMAN KRAMER, JUST THINKING ABOUT THE FINANCIAL IMPACT OR RESPONSIBILITY FOR THOSE ROADS. AND IF WE'RE LOSING ANY PAYROLL TAX OR ANYTHING AROUND THAT AREA. JUST JUST SEEING. I KNOW MISTER TRAVIS SAID IT WASN'T MUCH, BUT THERE STILL WILL BE RESPONSIBILITY OF THOSE ROADS. AND THEN THERE IS THE. YEAH. IS THERE ANY THOUGHT AROUND THAT? I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE IN OTHER AREAS, BUT SINCE I'M NEW, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE AND I APOLOGIZE IF I, IF I LEFT SOME AMBIGUITY THERE. THE ALL THE ROADS AT ISSUE HERE ARE REMAINING METRO. AND SO YOU KNOW THE FUNDING WILL STILL BE WITH US. THE CONTROL WILL STILL BE WITH US. THERE MAY I DID LOOK AT THE PLAT. THERE MAY BE SOME PRIVATE DRIVE THAT WASN'T OUR RESPONSIBILITY IN THE FIRST PLACE. BUT THIS, FROM A ROAD FUNDS PERSPECTIVE, SHOULD NOT IMPACT METRO. ANYONE ELSE WITH ANY ANYONE ELSE WITH A QUESTION OR CONCERN? HEARING NONE. WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU, SIR. IF YOU WANT TO IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. YES, SIR. MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, MY NAME IS FRED FISHER. I'M THE CITY ATTORNEY FOR THE CITY OF JEFFERSONTOWN, KENTUCKY. WE UNDERTOOK THIS ANNEXATION A YEAR AGO AND FOLLOWED THROUGH THE NEW STATUTE THAT CAME ABOUT WITH THIS LAST LEGISLATURE, WHICH ADDED A SECTION TO 60 7C1 11, REQUIRING US TO GO THROUGH CERTAIN STEPS BEFORE PROCEEDING TO CR 83 A, WHICH IS WHERE WE ARE. THIS IS AN EXTENSION OF OUR JEFFERSONTOWN COMMERCE PARK, WHICH IS A PLANNED EMPLOYMENT CENTER. IT'S DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM PAPA JOHN'S, WHICH IS OUR LARGEST EMPLOYER. THEY HAVE A CAMPUS TYPE SETTING, AS DOES THE ENTIRE AREA FROM BLANKENBAKER BACK TO TUCKER STATION ROAD. NEXT TO THIS ON THE SOUTH SIDE IS THE HOLLENBACK OAKLEY BLANKENBAKER STATION BUSINESS PARK, WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE EVER SEEN IT, BUT IT IS JUST THAT IT'S A BUSINESS PARK CAMPUS AND THAT WAS THE CITY'S INTEREST WHEN WE FIRST GOT INVOLVED A YEAR AGO, WHEN THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING LIKE FIVE BIG WAREHOUSES BACK IN THERE. AND I THINK THE STREET ISSUES CAME UP AT THAT TIME, THE CITY WAS IN OPPOSITION TO THAT FOR SOME OF THE REASONS THAT YOU ALL HAD INVOLVING THE ROADS. OUR

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WE HAVE 100% OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO ARE REQUIRED BY 83, 84, 20. OR IT MIGHT BE FOR 25.

IN ANY EVENT, EVERYBODY INVOLVED HAS REQUESTED TO COME IN TO THE CITY. THEY WANT TO BE PART OF THE CITY. WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THEM. WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS AS AN EXTENSION OF OUR COMMERCE PARK, AND TO MAINTAIN THAT AREA IN THE MANNER IN WHICH IT'S BEEN MAINTAINED IN THE PAST BY THE WAY, I HAVE READ THE PREAMBLES WITH THE NEW LANGUAGE, AND THERE'S NO OBJECTION TO ANY OF THAT. OKAY. SO AT THIS POINT, I WOULD SAY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS IF I MIGHT JUST COMMENT THE FACT THAT WE ARE KEEPING POSSESSION OF THE ROADS. AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT SNOW REMOVAL AND I'M SURE YOU GUYS WILL ALREADY HAVE WORKED THIS OUT, THERE WILL BE MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT THAT WILL NEED TO BE SIGNED BETWEEN BETWEEN YOU AND PUBLIC WORKS SO THAT YOU WILL HAVE PERMISSION TO REMOVE THE SNOW, WHICH BY THE WAY, WE ARE GRATEFUL TO THE CITY OF JEFFERSON FOR DOING SO. THANK YOU FOR TAKING SNOW OFF OF OUR ROADS. WE HAVE THAT SORT OF AGREEMENT WITH RESPECT TO TAYLORSVILLE ROAD, WATTERSON TRAIL, VARIOUS OTHER ROADS. SO AT THIS POINT THERE'S AMENDMENT BY SUBSTITUTION THAT HAS NOT BEEN MOVED YET. STEWART CAN'T MOVE THAT BECAUSE HE'S NOT A MEMBER. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THE AMENDMENT BY SUBSTITUTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. THE AMENDMENT IS PROPERLY BEFORE US. ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS REGARDING THE AMENDMENT BY SUBSTITUTION? HEARING NONE. CAN WE ROLL? CALL THAT OR VOICE VOTE THAT WE GOT A ROLL CALL AMENDMENT. VOICE VOTE. ALL RIGHT. ON THE AMENDMENT OF SUBSTITUTION, WE'RE GONNA DO A VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSITION? HEARING NO OPPOSITION THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE NOW HAVE THE AMENDED ORDERS BEFORE US. ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS REGARDING IT? LET'S DO A ROLL CALL.

COMMITTEE MEMBER HAWKINS. YES. COMMITTEE MEMBER PARRISH. RIGHT. YES. CHAIR. YOU HAVE SEVEN. YES.

AND ONE PRESENT. THE ITEM PASSES SHALL BE SENT TO OLD BUSINESS BECAUSE OF THE BY SUBSTITUTION.

AND ONE LAST BIT OF HOUSEKEEPING, WE WERE JOINED MID MEETING BY COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS AND WE HAVE EXCUSED ABSENCES THIS EVENING FOR COUNCILMAN MARINO WEBER, COUNCILMAN BLACKWELL AND COUNCILMAN PIAGENTINI. MR. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO THANK COUNCILMAN BENSON FOR MAKING THE CORRECTIONS TO THIS OR THE AMENDMENTS TO THIS TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE PIECES THAT WE HAD INADVERTENTLY LEFT OFF. SO THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN, FOR MAKING THOSE CHANGES AND FOR SPONSORING THE SUBSTITUTION AMENDMENT BY SUBSTITUTION. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING FOR

[Adjournment Note: Agendas are followed at the discretion of the Chair. While an item may be listed, it does not mean all items will be heard and/or acted upon by the Committee.]