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AROUND. WE'RE GOING TO HEAR THE LEGISLATION. FIRST. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO ITEM NUMBER TWO ON THE AGENDA. AN ORDINANCE AMENDING LOUISVILLE METRO CODE OF ORDINANCES. CHAPTER 39, REGULATING PUBLICLY OWNED AND ACCESSIBLE ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS. MAY I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE? SECOND. OKAY. WHO'S HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS? THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU VERY[2. O-214-24 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING LOUISVILLE METRO CODE OF ORDINANCES (“LMCO”) CHAPTER 39 REGULATING PUBLICLY OWNED AND ACCESSIBLE ELECTRIC VEHICLE (“EV”) CHARGING STATIONS. Action Required By: March 19, 2025 Sponsors: Anthony Piagentini (R-19) ]
MUCH. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. SO JUST TO GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THIS, FIRST OF ALL, LET ME START WITH WHAT THIS DOES NOT DO THIS IS NOT NO COMMENTARY ON EVS ELECTRIC VEHICLES. THE PROLIFERATION OF CHARGING STATIONS WERE, QUITE FRANKLY, FOR ALL THAT. THAT'S GREAT STUFF. WHAT WHERE THIS WHERE THE IMPETUS WAS CREATED. THERE'S ONE OF THESE CHARGING STATIONS IS CURRENTLY IN DISTRICT 19. AND I WAS GETTING QUESTIONS FROM CONSTITUENTS ON WHO IS PAYING FOR THE ELECTRICITY USE FROM THESE CHARGING STATIONS THAT ARE OWNED BY THE CITY. RIGHT. WENT WENT TO THE ADMINISTRATION, THE ADMINISTRATION. THEY HAD TO ACTUALLY LOOK IT UP. WE WEREN'T 100% SURE. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING FOR THE ELECTRIC USE FROM THESE AND IT'S ONLY A HANDFUL. I THINK IT'S EIGHT THAT ARE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW. SO IF SOMEBODY IS COMING UP TO THESE CHARGING STATIONS AND PLUGGING IN THEIR VEHICLE, THE TAXPAYER IS PAYING FOR THEIR ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING. THERE ARE MANY OF THESE TYPES OF CHARGING STATIONS IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR, WHERE YOU CAN PAY FOR YOUR ELECTRICITY USE AS YOU USE THEM, RIGHT. SO WHAT THIS DOES AGAIN IN THE WHEREAS STATEMENTS VERY CLEARLY REFLECTS WE'RE ALL FOR A VARIETY OF OPTIONS FOR TRANSPORTATION, INCLUDING ELECTRIC VEHICLES. BUT WE DO WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT EV, THE PRIVATE USE OF EVEN PUBLICLY OWNED EV CHARGERS, THAT ENERGY[00:15:07]
AND SHOULD BE PAID FOR BY THE PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL. SO THE IF WE USE THESE FOR PUBLIC USE, RIGHT.OBVIOUSLY TAXPAYERS PAYING FOR OUR FLEETS, IF WE HAVE FLEETS OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES, WE WILL CONTINUE TO PAY FOR THAT. AND WE DO HAVE SOME OF THESE CHARGING STATIONS BEHIND LOCK AND KEY IN VARIOUS PUBLIC WORKS AREAS, BUT THOSE ARE ONLY ACCESSIBLE BY PUBLIC VEHICLES. SO WHAT I AM GOING TO PROPOSE A COUPLE ONES VERY SMALL AND THEN BUT TWO AMENDMENTS TODAY. ESSENTIALLY WHAT THIS SAYS IS THAT THERE WERE TWO POINTS TO THIS. ONE IS THAT ANY NEW CHARGING STATIONS THAT WE BUILD WOULD HAVE THIS FUNCTIONALITY WHERE PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS WOULD PAY FOR IT.
THERE'S ALSO A SECTION OF IT, SECTION D, WHICH I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND OUT, WHICH PROPOSED CONVERTING THE EXISTING ONES TO CHARGING STATIONS WHERE YOU COULD PAY AT THE REQUEST OF IT WAS COUNCILMAN HUDSON THAT BROUGHT IT UP WITH ME. AND I WENT BACK TO THE ADMINISTRATION, ASKED HOW MUCH THAT WOULD COST. QUITE FRANKLY, THE COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS DIDN'T MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE. SO BUT WHAT THE ORDINANCE WILL ALLOW FOR IS WHEN THOSE DEVICES ARE UPGRADED AND CHANGED, RIGHT? THEY ALL HAVE A SHELF LIFE. THEN WE WILL USE THESE NEW THE ONES THAT REQUIRE THAT CHARGE. THE PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL. SO THAT'S WHAT IT CURRENTLY SAYS. I'M GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, BUT I AM GOING TO PROPOSE TO STRIKE LETTER D JUST THE ENTIRETY OF IT, WHICH IS ABOUT CONVERTING THE EXISTING CHARGING STATIONS. IT DOESN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE. AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER SMALL CHANGE I'M GOING TO MAKE IS I'M GOING TO PROPOSE IS UNDER LETTER C, IT SAYS ALL PUBLICLY OWNED EV CHARGING STATIONS SHALL ONLY CHARGE THE USER THE COST OF THE ENERGY USED IN CHARGING THEIR VEHICLE, PLUS ANY APPLICABLE TRANSITION FEES OR TRANSACTION FEES. I WANT TO CHANGE ONLY TO SHALL, AT A MINIMUM CHARGE, AND THEN THE REST OF THE SENTENCE WHICH ALLOWS THE ADMINISTRATION IN THE FUTURE TO DETERMINE RATES BASED ON THE MARKET AND OTHER FACTORS. RIGHT. BUT BUT AT LEAST IT COVERS THOSE BASIC THINGS. SO BEFORE I PROPOSE THOSE AMENDMENTS, I WANT TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS. AND THEN I'LL PROPOSE THE AMENDMENTS. JUST. COME BACK. AND WE'LL SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS. I'M GLAD TO START WITH THE AMENDMENTS THOUGH. OKAY. LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET A MOTION FOR AMENDMENT C. PLEASE DO THE MOTIONS FOR OKAY. SO YEAH FIRST LET ME GO BACK FIRST. I'LL MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO STRIKE ALL OF LETTER D MOTION. SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. THE AYES HAVE IT. LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET A MOTION FOR AMENDMENT D, PLEASE. YEAH.
SO THE OTHER MOTION UNDER LETTER C WILL CHANGE THE VERBIAGE TO STRIKE THE WORD ONLY AND REPLACE IT WITH SHALL AT A MINIMUM CHARGE. I MADE A MOTION. MOTION. SECOND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE AYE AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED THE MOTION PASSES. COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL, A LOT OF QUESTIONS, BUT I'LL ASK A FEW AND THEN INVITE MY COLLEAGUES TO ASK THEM. AND THEN I'LL JUMP BACK IN. I FEEL LIKE THIS IS ONE OF THOSE LIKE, HELLO, MY NAME IS JENNIFER CHAPPELL. I DON'T OWN AN EV. I HAVE A CAR THAT TAKES GAS. I DON'T EVEN HAVE A GARAGE, SO WHAT IS THE MINIMUM APPLICABLE TRANSACTION FEE? IS THERE A NUMBER ASSOCIATED WITH THAT? NO, THAT'S WHY WE JUST USE THE GENERIC LANGUAGE. BECAUSE BY TRANSACTION FEE, YOU COULD HAVE ANYTHING LIKE FOR EXAMPLE VISA AND MASTERCARD. THEY CHARGE TRANSACTION FEES ON TOP OF WHATEVER THE ACTUAL RETAIL TRANSACTION IS. SO THE POINT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT PAYING FOR PEOPLE'S PRIVATE USE OF GAS IF THEY'RE IF THEY'RE USING AN EV, WE WANT THEM TO PAY FOR, AT THE MINIMUM, THE COST RIGHT OF THE ENERGY PLUS WHAT I'LL JUST CALL, YOU KNOW, AS WE CALL IT HERE, TRANSACTION FEES. RIGHT. SO THESE ARE FEES THAT THAT COULD BE PART OF PROCESSING THE TRANSACTION. BUT IT'S HARD TO NAIL IT DOWN BECAUSE DIFFERENT CREDIT CARD COMPANIES FOR EXAMPLE VISA, MASTERCARD AMERICAN EXPRESS HAVE DIFFERENT FEE STRUCTURES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AS FAR AS WHAT THEY CHARGE FOR A TRANSACTION FEE. AND IF I HAD AN EV AND I WAS ON EMPTY, KIND OF INTERESTING HOW LINGUISTICALLY WE'LL HAVE TO CHANGE. LIKE HOW WE, YOU KNOW,
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LIKE TANK, THERE'S NOT REALLY A TANK, RIGHT? THE BATTERY. SO CAN YOU KIND OF EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN TERMS OF LIKE YOU PLUG IN YOUR CAR AND YOU CHARGE IT TO ITS FULL CHARGE. IS THERE AN AVERAGE FOR HOW MUCH ENERGY THAT COSTS? AND IF I WERE TO DO THAT TODAY, HOW MUCH DOES THAT COST FOR A FULL TANK? SO I'LL START WITH THIS. AND IF YOU WANT TO CHIME IN ON THIS AS WELL. BUT FIRST OF ALL, IT DEPENDS ON THE EV BECAUSE EACH ONE HAS DIFFERENT BATTERY, DIFFERENT BATTERY CAPACITIES. OKAY. SO IT DEPENDS ON THAT. THERE IS A STANDARD RATE PER KILOWATT HOUR AND I FORGET EXACTLY WHAT IT IS. BUT THAT'S HOW GENERALLY YOU WOULD SAY LIKE IT'S NOT SO MUCH LIKE HOW MUCH WOULD IT COST TO CHARGE A TESLA MODEL THREE VERSUS A CYBERTRUCK OR VERSUS I KNOW SOMEBODY HERE HAS A THE MACH-E, WHICH IS THE ELECTRIC MUSTANG. YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE ALL GOING TO HAVE DIFFERENT CAPACITIES AND DIFFERENT TOTAL COSTS. BUT THERE'S A COST PER KILOWATT HOUR, WHICH I DON'T KNOW. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD? IT'S OVER AN HOUR. OKAY. BUT THAT THAT THERE IS A LOT OF NUANCE BETWEEN OUR FACILITIES AND ACCOUNTS, WHICH IS WHY IT'S HELPFUL TO LOOK AT THIS MOVING FORWARD SO WE CAN GET THE RIGHT INFRASTRUCTURE TO NAIL THAT COST DOWN RIGHT. AND SORRY, JUST FOR LEGAL PURPOSES, CAN YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF? ZACHARY TYLER I WORK FOR THE OFFICE OF FACILITIES AND FLEET MANAGEMENT. THANKS, ZACHARY. SO? SO YEAH. SO IT'S MORE THAT. RIGHT. AND THEN AND THAT'S WHY WE CHANGED THE LANGUAGE TO AT A MINIMUM BECAUSE LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, THORNTONS HAS STARTED PUTTING UP BP. I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH BP BUT THEY ARE BP SUPERCHARGING STATIONS. THESE ARE THE REALLY FAST EV CHARGERS AT THEIR THORNTON'S GAS STATIONS. YOU PAY FOR IT. BUT NOW THEY HAVE EVS THAT WILL PULL UP AND USE THESE SUPERCHARGERS. AND BUT IT'S ALL CHARGED BY THIS EQUATION OF HOW MUCH KILOWATT HOURS YOU ARE PUTTING INTO YOUR VEHICLE. BUT THEN AND EVEN THAT RATE WILL, OF COURSE CHANGE OVER TIME DEPENDING ON MARKET CIRCUMSTANCES FROM ZERO TO FULL CHARGE. WHAT'S THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF KILOWATTS AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE REQUIRES? IT'S PRETTY COMMON. YOU MIGHT SEE KILOWATTS AROUND 80 ON ON AN AVERAGE BATTERY. AND THE COST DEPENDING UPON THE UTILITY ACCOUNT CAR COULD BE ANYWHERE FROM 2 TO $10 FOR A FULL CHARGE. AND LOUISVILLE METRO, CAN YOU SPEAK TO HOW MANY EVS WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN OUR FLEET? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WITHIN OUR FLEET, WE'RE CURRENTLY AT 36 EVS AND ARE WE? WHEN WE PURCHASE NEW VEHICLES, ARE WE PRIORITIZING EV? WE ARE LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO ADD EVS TO THE FLEET WHEREVER POSSIBLE. IT'S THE LAST I HEARD WE WERE LOOKING AT MAYBE EIGHT, 6 TO 8 THIS YEAR AND ARE THESE EIGHT CHARGERS USED BY LOUISVILLE METRO EMPLOYEES AT ALL PUBLIC CHARGES? GO AHEAD AND THEN I'LL COMMENT ON THAT ONE TO THE CHARGERS INSTALLED BY FACILITIES IN MOST CASES ARE RESTRICTED JUST TO LOUISVILLE METRO FLEET WITH TWO EXCEPTIONS WHERE THERE IS PUBLIC ACCESS CURRENTLY AVAILABLE. SO YEAH, THERE ARE THERE ARE TWO GROUPS OF EV CHARGING STATIONS, RIGHT. THERE'S ONE GROUP THAT IS BEHIND LOCK AND KEY ESSENTIALLY.SO AT PUBLIC WORKS FACILITIES THEY'RE ACTUALLY BEHIND FENCE LINES AND SUCH ONLY ACCESSIBLE TO OUR FLEET VEHICLES. AND THAT'S WHY THERE'S NO COMMENTARY ON THAT HERE. BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY AS WE EXPAND THAT FLEET OUT, I EXPECT THAT TO EXPAND. AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO PAY HOPEFULLY WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, LEAST EXPENSIVE ENERGY IS. BUT WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR THAT OR TAXPAYERS WILL PAY FOR THAT. BUT THIS IS JUST ADDRESSING ANY THAT THE PUBLIC THAT THE CITY INSTALLS THAT ARE PUBLIC FACING. AND THERE ARE NOW AGAIN, THERE ARE TONS OF PRIVATELY OWNED ONES OUT THERE.
THE MAJOR NEAR ME HAS A COUPLE HUGE SUPER CHARGED BANKS OF CHARGERS, BUT THEY'RE LIKE RECENTLY METRO HAS REQUESTED FEDERAL GRANT DOLLARS TO INSTALL POTENTIALLY DOZENS OF THESE ACROSS THE CITY. AND AGAIN, THAT'S GREAT. I HAVE ZERO OBJECTION TO THAT. I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULD STOP THAT IN THE SLIGHTEST, BUT IF THEY'RE USED FOR IF THEY ARE USED FOR PRIVATE USE, THOSE PRIVATE USERS SHOULD PAY FOR IT. BUT I DO ALSO EXPECT THAT OUR FLEET VEHICLES WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO USE THEM, AND THE CITY CONTINUE TO COVER IT, OF COURSE. OKAY, THAT THAT WAS KIND OF I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS YOU PLUG IN WHERE YOU GET IN KIND OF THING. I DON'T KNOW, A COUPLE MORE AND THEN I'LL JUMP BACK INTO THE QUEUE. THE PRIVATE ONES ARE THEY FREE? CURRENTLY THERE ARE AGAIN, I THINK IT'S EIGHT, BUT THERE ARE A HANDFUL THAT ARE CITY
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OWNED THAT ARE TAXPAYER FUNDED IN SOME WAY. RIGHT? IN OTHER WORDS, THE USER, WHEN THEY PLUG IN A PICK ON THE ONE AT THE MIDDLETOWN LIBRARY, IT'S NOT A SUPERCHARGER, BUT THAT ONE IS ACTUALLY ACCESSED TO THE BUILDING'S POWER GRID. SO THE USE OF THAT IS BEING BILLED TO THE TAXPAYER VIA THE ENERGY USE OF THE BUILDING. RIGHT. BECAUSE IT'S JUST CONNECTED THERE DIRECTLY. SUPERCHARGERS WILL TYPICALLY BE SEPARATELY METERED. RIGHT. BUT THIS IS NOT A SUPERCHARGER. IT DOESN'T USE THAT MUCH ENERGY. AND IT'S VERY SLOW CHARGING AS A RESULT. BUT BUT YES, THE CURRENTLY THE ONES THAT THE CITY OWNS THAT THERE'S PUBLIC ACCESS. THERE'S NO CHARGE TO THE USER. THE TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING FOR IT. BUT IF I WERE CHARGING IN, SAY, A GAS STATION, THEN THEY CHARGE YOU FOR IT. THEN THEY HAVE THOSE AT GAS STATIONS. YEAH. OKAY. THEY THEY DO CHARGE YOU FOR IT. CORRECT. AND DO YOU HAVE ANY DATA TO SHOW HOW MUCH EV CHARGING COSTS THE CITY ANNUALLY? NO. AND IT'S NOT A LOT. YOU HAVE TO BE SUPER CLEAR. THESE EIGHT CHARGING STATIONS, NONE OF THEM ARE SUPERCHARGERS NUMBER ONE, WHICH THAT'S JUST A MATTER OF SPEED.SO NONE OF THEM. AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE NOT. I STRUCK THE LANGUAGE ON REPLACING THE EXISTING ONES, BECAUSE THE AMOUNT THAT WE'RE SPENDING ON THESE, EVEN IF SOMEBODY WAS PLUGGED TO THEM NONSTOP, RIGHT NOW, EIGHT CHARGERS, IT'S ALMOST $5,000. WAS THE ESTIMATE TO REPLACE EACH OF THESE? THAT MAKES NO SENSE. WE PROBABLY DON'T SPEND $5,000 IN TOTAL WITH THESE EIGHT CHARGING STATIONS RIGHT NOW. THE REASON FOR THIS IS, IS TO GET AHEAD OF THE GAME AGAIN. WE POTENTIALLY COULD HAVE DOZENS OF THESE OR MORE HUNDREDS, WHO KNOWS HOW MANY THAT THE CITY MAY BE SPONSORING AND INSTALLING ACROSS THE COUNTY. AND THE POINT IS, AS WE DO, WE SHOULD BE ENSURING THAT AGAIN, PRIVATE USE THAT PRIVATE PERSON IS PAYING FOR THAT ELECTRIC. WE USE.
COUNCILWOMAN CHAIR, I HAVE TWO OTHER PEOPLE THAT WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS. COUNCILWOMAN MARIE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. FIRST OF ALL, I'VE NEVER USED ONE OF YOUR PUBLICLY OWNED STATIONS BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ANY IN MY END OF TOWN. IT MUST BE NICE. AND I ABSOLUTELY AGREE THAT THEY SHOULD. WE SHOULD BE PAYING FOR THE ELECTRICITY ON THEM, THAT JUST LOGICALLY MAKES SENSE. I APPRECIATE THAT YOU HAVE CHANGED THE WORDING ON HERE TO A MINIMAL TRANSACTION FEE, BECAUSE I LOOKED AT THAT AND I'M LIKE, WHAT IS THAT GOING TO ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE? SO THAT COULD EASILY BE SOMETHING THAT SOMEONE GETS GOUGED ON. HAVE YOU LOOKED AT WHO'S GOING TO BE THE SERVICE THESE GO THROUGH? BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT COMPANIES THAT RUN CHARGING STATIONS. SO AGAIN, I WOULD DEFER TO THE ADMINISTRATION ON HOW THEY WANT TO DO THIS. AND AGAIN, THIS IS MORE FUTURE THINKING WHEN WE HAVE POTENTIALLY DOZENS OR HUNDREDS OF THESE. AGAIN, PRIVATELY, THERE ARE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE PRIVATE CHARGERS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. I'LL JUST USE MY OWN DISTRICT. I KNOW THAT TESLA HAS SOME BP HAS SOME, AND THERE'S A THIRD AT MEYER, AND I FORGET THERE'S ANOTHER ONE AT MEYER THAT IS ANOTHER PROVIDER. BUT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY IS GOING TO MANAGE THAT OR WE'RE GOING TO CONTRACT WITH A THIRD PARTY THAT THEY CAN ADDRESS THAT. I WOULD SAY ALL OPTIONS ARE STILL ON THE TABLE. THERE ARE THIRD PARTIES THAT WILL HOST ON OUR BEHALF. LGA ALSO HAS A PROGRAM TO HOST CHARGERS ON OUR BEHALF. AND THEN WE HAVE LOOKED AT SOME CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE WE WOULD JUST ADD THEM OURSELVES AND MONITOR THAT. SO THAT'S THAT'S NOT RULED OUT YET. OKAY.
THANK YOU. AS YOU NOTED IT IS VERY MINIMAL COST TO CHARGE A EV AND GET SEVERAL HUNDRED MILES OFF OF IT COMPARED TO GASOLINE. SO YEAH, I THINK IT'S COMPLETELY REASONABLE TO BE ASKING SOMEONE TO PAY THE EXPENSES ON IT. THAT'S GOOD. I APPRECIATE THAT YOU ARE BRINGING THIS UP NOW AND BEING PROACTIVE ON IT. YEAH. AND LET ME ALSO SAY TO THAT POINT WHEN I WAS GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH THE ADMINISTRATION ON THIS, THERE WAS NO DESIGN TO HAVE THE CITY COVER THIS, RIGHT. IT WASN'T LIKE THERE WAS SOMEBODY BEHIND THE SCENES WHO WAS LIKE, OH, WE GOT TO GIVE AWAY FREE ENERGY. LIKE IT WASN'T LIKE THAT. IT WAS JUST MORE WE WERE INSTALLING THESE THINGS PROBABLY AS, I MEAN, THE ONE AT THE MIDDLETOWN LIBRARY. I THINK IT WAS JUST SORT OF, HEY, BEST PRACTICE TO PUT ONE OF THESE IN THERE. RIGHT. AND BUT THERE WASN'T AT THE TIME. WE PROBABLY DIDN'T EVEN HAVE I DON'T KNOW IF YOUR OFFICE EXISTED AND YOUR ROLE EXISTED AT THE TIME, BUT THIS IS ALL VERY, VERY BRAND NEW. AND THE POINT IS, NOW THAT WE KNOW IT EXISTS, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE AHEAD OF THE GAME. SO YEAH, I ALSO WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THIS WAS NOT THIS WAS NOT ANY BY DESIGN. IT WAS MORE LIKE WE HADN'T THOUGHT THROUGH IT. RIGHT. YEAH. AS THE EVS BECOME MORE COMMON, THE USE IS GOING TO BE MUCH MORE AND THE EXPENSE IS GOING TO BE MUCH MORE. AND YES, SOMEBODY NEEDS TO ABSORB THE COST. IS THERE A TIME LIMITATION ON HOW LONG SOMEONE
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CAN STAY PLUGGED INTO AN EV CHARGER? FOR THE PARK CHARGERS, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY ARE RESTRICTED TO A THREE HOUR PLUG IN LIMIT THE PARKING AUTHORITY. BUT FOR THE OTHER CHARGERS, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY CURRENT TIME RESTRICTION. OKAY. THANK YOU. ONE MORE COMMENT, MADAM CHAIR. I ALSO WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING. FOR THE RECORD, I DID NOT INCLUDE PARK IN THIS PARK IS A SEPARATE QUASI GOVERNMENT AGENCY. THEY DO NOT FALL UNDER OUR DIRECT JURISDICTION. SO THIS DOES NOT APPLY TO THEM BECAUSE PARK DOES HAVE A SYSTEM THEY'VE JUST STARTED EXPANDING IT, BUT THEY HAVE A SYSTEM OF ELECTRONIC EV CHARGERS WITHIN THEIR PARKING DECKS. THEY ARE MAKING THEIR OWN STRATEGIC DECISIONS WITHIN THEIR GOVERNANCE AND WITHIN THEIR BUDGET. ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE GOING TO USE THEM TO SUBSIDIZE VIA CERTAIN FEES. THEY CHARGE A PARKING GARAGES OR MAYBE PEOPLE WILL PAY FOR IT. BUT THOSE DECISIONS ARE MADE BY THE PARK BOARD AND THROUGH THEIR TRANSACTIONS AND THEIR BUDGET. THAT DOES NOT COME BACK AND HIT THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET. SO WE'RE NOT EXPANDING THIS TO THEM. WE'RE NOT TELLING THEM WHAT TO DO IF THEY WANT TO MAKE STRATEGIC DECISIONS RELATED TO THEIR BUDGET, THEY'RE FREE TO DO SO. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN ACKERSON. HE WITHDREW HIS QUESTIONS. COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL, DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? CAN YOU WRAP IT UP? BECAUSE WE DO HAVE TWO MORE LENGTHY ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. THANK YOU. IF THERE AREN'T ANY OTHER QUESTION, THIS IS AN ORDINANCE THAT CALLS FOR A ROLL CALL. VOTE VOTING IS OPEN. COUNCIL MEMBER ACKERSON. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER BENSON. YES.COUNCIL MEMBER. ROWLEY. COUNCIL MEMBER. CHAPPELL. VOTING IS CLOSING. CHAIR. YOU HAVE SEVEN.
YES VOTES AND ONE PRESENT. OKAY. THIS WILL GO TO OLD BUSINESS. THANK YOU. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE OFFICE OF THE JEFFERSON COUNTY ATTORNEY TO
[3. R-110-24 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE OFFICE OF THE JEFFERSON COUNTY ATTORNEY TO BRING A CONDEMNATION ACTION AGAINST THE OWNERS OF CERTAIN PROPERTY, PARCEL NO. TWO (2), IN JEFFERSON COUNTY IN CONNECTION WITH THE BRISCOE LANE BRIDGE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. Action Required By: April 10, 2025 Sponsors: Madonna Flood (D-24) ]
BRING A CONDEMNATION. CONDEMNATION AGAINST THE OWNERS OF CERTAIN PROPERTY. PARCEL NUMBER TWO IN JEFFERSON COUNTY IN CONNECTION WITH THE BRISCOE LANE BRIDGE CONSTRUCTION PROJEC.MOTION SECOND, THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN FLOOD, WOULD YOU LIKE TO START THE DISCUSSION BEFORE TURNING IT OVER TO MR. BROWN? YES. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WITH MY INFORMATION THAT I'VE GOT FROM PUBLIC WORKS THAT THE FOLKS THAT OWN THIS PROPERTY ARE FOR THIS PROJECT AND WANT THIS PROJECT TO MOVE FORWARD. BUT THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH THEIR MORTGAGE COMPANY, AND THEY CAN PROBABLY EXPLAIN IT MORE BETTER THAN I CAN. THE MORTGAGE COMPANY IS NOT BEING COOPERATIVE. AND IF YOU'VE EVER DRIVEN BRISCOE LANE, I IT'S BAD. IT'S JUST VERY WINDY AND IT'S JUST A HORRIBLE ROAD. AND THIS BRIDGE NEEDS THIS PROJECT NEEDS TO GO FORWARD. IS THIS THE ROAD THAT KIND OF LEADS TO MOUNT WASHINGTON? LINK? NO, IT'S OVER THERE. YOU KNOW WHERE THE GOVERNMENT CENTER IS AND MORE HIGH SCHOOL. IT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF MORE HIGH SCHOOL. OUTER LOOP IS IN FRONT OF MORE. AND THIS IS BEHIND BRISCOE LANE. AND I KNOW THAT THE ONLY REASON THERE WAS ACTUALLY SIDEWALKS PUT IN PROBABLY 35, 40, PROBABLY 40 YEARS AGO, MAYBE LONGER THAT IT WAS ACTUALLY SOMEONE GOT KILLED A CHILD, YOU KNOW, GOING TO SCHOOL. SO IT'S JUST A BAD ROAD.
THIS PROJECT NEEDS TO MOVE FORWARD NO MATTER WHAT WHAT HAPPENS, IT NEEDS TO MOVE FORWARD. OKAY. CAN YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD, SIR? YEP. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I'M JEFF BROWN WITH LOUISVILLE METRO PUBLIC WORKS AND ASSETS, AND I THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN FLOOD I THINK, DESCRIBED THE SITUATION WE HAVE ABUTTING PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROJECT. THEY'RE ON BOARD. IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT WORKING WITH THEIR MORTGAGE COMPANY, THOUGH, AND THAT'S WHAT BROUGHT US HERE TODAY. THIS IS CERTAINLY THE LAST STEP WE WANT TO TAKE BECAUSE IT DOES SLOW DOWN THE PROCESS. BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE HERE ASKING TO PROCEED WITH THE CONDEMNATION FOR A PERMANENT EASEMENT AND THEN A SMALL BIT OF RIGHT OF WAY THAT ABUTS THE PROPERTY. THERE ON BRISCOE LANE. OKAY. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY ANYONE IN THE QUEUE FOR QUESTIONS? OKAY. IF THERE'S NO ONE IN THE QUEUE FOR QUESTIONS, THIS IS A RESOLUTION THAT CALLS FOR A VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I, I AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. THE EYES HAVE IT. IT
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SHOULD GO ON. NEW BUSINESS. I MEAN. I'M SORRY. CONSENT CALENDAR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.SO OUR LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING CROSSWALKS AND THE PARTNERSHIP
[1. ID 24-0624 CROSSWALKS AND THE PARTNERSHIP WITH JEFFERSON COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS – Jennifer Kern, Public Works ]
THAT PUBLIC WORKS HAS WITH J-C-P-S IN DETERMINING CROSSWALKS NEEDED IN REGARDS TO SCHOOLS AND THE PROXIMITY OF SCHOOLS FOR THE SAFETY OF CHILDREN. AND WE HAVE PUBLIC WORKS HERE TODAY. IF YOU WOULD IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR THE RECOR. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, DIRECTOR KERN, WITH PUBLIC WORKS. AND I'M ALSO JOINED TODA, CLAIRE YATES, NATE KELCH. AND WE'VE GOT MEMBERS FROM JCPS AND LMPD HERE AS WELL. IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS. I HAVE A REQUEST TO MAKE OF YOU FOR SOME REASON, THAT SPEAKER IS NOT THAT LOUD. DO YOU MIND STANDING UP USING THIS SPEAKER AT THE PODIUM, PLEASE? YES. THANK YOU. I THINK IT'S NO, I JUST NEED WE'VE GOT IT UP ON THE SCREEN. OKAY. YEAH. NO. WE'RE GOOD. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. START OVER. THANK YOU.DIRECTOR KERN WITH LOUISVILLE METRO PUBLIC WORKS. I'M JOINED HERE TODAY WITH OUR VISION ZERO.
AND TRANSPORTATION SUPERVISOR CLAIRE YATES AND NATE KELCH. WE ALSO HAVE MEMBERS FROM JCPS AND LMPD AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO JUST GENERALLY AS FAR AS THE TOPIC TODAY, WE WERE GRANTED VERY GENEROUS FUNDING FOR PAVEMENT MARKING IN THIS YEAR'S CAPITAL BUDGET. SO WITH SOME OF THOSE DOLLARS WE'VE IDENTIFIED CURRENTLY 50 CROSSWALK LOCATIONS THAT ARE NEAR SCHOOLS. AND WE'RE CURRENTLY ASSESSING THOSE FOR WHAT IMPROVEMENTS NEED TO BE MADE. BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT HIGHER VISIBILITY LETTER STYLE CROSSWALKS. THEY WOULD INCLUDE SIGNAGE AND ANY OTHER MARKINGS AS NEEDED. SO WE'RE EVALUATING THOSE SO WE CAN PRIORITIZE THEM.
AND LIKELY THOSE WOULD BE INSTALLED IN THE SPRING AS WE'RE APPROACHING A LIMITING TEMPERATURE. WILL THIS FUNDING COVER ALL OF THE 50 CROSSWALKS THAT YOU ALL HAVE IDENTIFIED? YES. SO THE YES, THAT WOULD COME FROM THE STRIPING BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR. CAN I ASK, IS SHAWNEE HIGH SCHOOL THERE? I DON'T HAVE THE LIST ON HAND. I DON'T KNOW IF. YEAH, WE CAN SHARE THE FULL LIST OF STRIPING LOCATIONS. YEAH, I HAVE CONSTITUENTS CALL ME ABOUT NO CROSSWALK OR SOMETHING. KIDS CROSSING ON MARKET STREET, AND THEY'RE CONCERNED THAT SOMEONE'S GOING TO GET HIT AND KILLED. SO JUST SO THAT I WOULD KNOW IN THE PUBLIC WOULD KNOW. HOW DO YOU COORDINATE THIS PARTNERSHIP OF IDENTIFYING WHAT SCHOOLS NEED CROSSWALK ARE YOU I MEAN, DOES JCPS CONTACT YOU? YOU CONTACT THEM. IF YOU COULD JUST GIVE US SOME BACKGROUND ON HOW THIS HAPPENS, HOW THIS WORKS. IT'S GENERALLY IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH. AND I'LL, I DON'T KNOW IF STACY OR CLAIRE HAVE A MORE DETAILED ANSWER, BUT WE DO COORDINATE BOTH WITH LMPD CROSSING GUARDS, IN WHICH A CPS AS WELL ON CONCERNS THAT THEY HAVE. OKAY. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? SO. YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I, I ONCE AGAIN FEEL LIKE AND I DON'T KNOW IF OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE BEEN IN THE SAME SITUATION, BUT LIKE DISTRICT 19 IS SORT OF GETTING HERE BECAUSE WE'VE UPGRADED TWO OF OUR CROSSWALKS. WE'VE PAID OUT OF DISTRICT MONEY TO UPGRADE TWO CROSSWALKS RELATED TO SCHOOLS. ONE IS DOVER ELEMENTARY AND ONE THAT CROSSES OLD SHELBYVILLE ROAD THAT RELATED TO HITE ELEMENTARY AND EASTERN HIGH SCHOOL. AND NOW THE CITY IS GOING TO PAY FOR, YOU KNOW, THESE THINGS ACROSS THE BOARD, BUT I'M GLAD WE'RE DOING IT.
THIS IS A GREAT THING. IT'S THE RIGHT THING. I WOULD ASK THAT IF YOU CAN SHARE THE LIST AND MAYBE THE LIST AND THE THOUGHT PROCESS AND BECAUSE THERE ARE I MEAN, I'VE MILLTOWN ELEMENTARY, WHICH WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE WITH, THAT CROSSWALK AND IT'S, IT'S A HIGH IT'S A HIGHLY TRAFFICKED PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALK TO GET THERE. AND SO I ASKED FOR THE LIST. I ASKED FOR THE
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METHODOLOGY. ANYWAY, IF YOU COULD SHARE THAT, THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL. AND THEN, OH, I WAS GOING TO ASK, DID WE THINK ABOUT THIS BIGGER THAN JUST LIKE DIRECTLY, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, MIDDLETOWN ELEMENTARY, THE CROSSWALK IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE FRONT DOOR. YOU CAN'T MISS IT. THE CROSSWALK THAT CROSSES OLD SHELBYVILLE ROAD, WHICH CONNECTS EASTERN HIGH SCHOOL AND HITE ELEMENTARY IN A PEDESTRIAN MANNER TO THE MIDDLETOWN LIBRARY. IT YOU WOULDN'T IMMEDIATELY IDENTIFY IT AS LIKE A CROSSWALK RELATED TO THE SCHOOL, BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT A BLOCK AWAY. RIGHT? DID WE CONSIDER INTERSECTIONS THAT MAY NOT BE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE SCHOOL DIRECTLY CONNECTED TO IT YET ARE USED PREDOMINANTLY BY THOSE SCHOOLS TO GET TO A PEDESTRIAN PLACE? I SEE A LOT OF HEAD NODDING. SO IT'S PROBABLY A GOOD THING. YEAH, THANKS. HEY, CLAIRE YATES, LOUISVILLE METRO PUBLIC WORKS, IS THAT IT? IS THAT ALL YOU NEED? YEP. YOU'RE GOOD. OKAY. YES. SO EVERY UNCONTROLLED OR MID-BLOCK CROSSWALK IN JEFFERSON COUNTY WILL BE UPGRADED FROM JUST TWO PARALLEL LINES TO A HIGH VISIBILITY. WE CALL IT LADDER STYLE CROSSWALK WITH BOTH TRANSVERSE AND PARALLEL LINES. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. THANKS.SO I HAVE A QUESTION. SOMETIMES IT'S DARK WHEN KIDS ARE CROSSING. GOING TO SCHOOL WAS THE POSSIBILITY OF PUTTING A PAINT LINE THAT GLOWS IN THE DARK. WE'RE DEFINITELY OPEN TO WHATEVER MATERIALS ARE AVAILABLE. I CAN CHECK IN WITH OUR STRIPING TEAM AND SEE IF THAT'S A POSSIBILITY. I KNOW THAT HAVING WIDER STRIPES IS A PROVEN SAFETY COUNTERMEASURE, AND THEY ARE REFLECTIVE, BUT I DON'T KNOW AS FAR AS THINGS THAT WOULD GLOW IN THE DARK, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK INTO THAT. OR MAYBE THOSE LITTLE THINGS YOU SEE DIVIDED ON THE LANES ON THE INTERSTATE AND THE KIND OF GLOW. BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, SOMETIMES IT IS DARK WHEN KIDS GO TO SCHOOL EARLY IN THE MORNING. SO JUST JUST AN ADDED SAFETY FEATURE, YOU COULD CHECK ON THA.
COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL. HELLO. JUST TO GET CLARIFICATION IN THIS SLIDE THAT YOU HAD PUT TOGETHER, IT SAYS THESE TYPES OF CROSSWALKS WILL BECOME OUR STANDARD. AND THAT MEANS ACROSS THE CITY, NOT JUST IN PROJECTS RELATED TO SCHOOLS. CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. I WILL JUST SAY THAT WHEN I READ THAT EARLIER, THAT'S WHAT I ASSUMED. AND BECAUSE THIS IS BEING FILMED, I WON'T DO THE LITTLE DANCE THAT I DID EARLIER BECAUSE THAT'S FANTASTIC. I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR THIS FOR A WHILE. I KNOW THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE, IF YOU OWN A HOME, YOU PROBABLY HEARD THE PHRASE A LITTLE PUTTY AND PAINT WILL MAKE IT WHAT IT AIN'T. AND I THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE MAYBE WE'RE NOT REALLY DOING A LOT REVOLUTIONIZING THE ROADWAY, BUT WE'RE PUTTING DOWN THESE LADDER CROSSWALKS AND LIKE THAT PAINT MAKES SUCH A HUGE DIFFERENCE. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. THIS IS MADE A FANTASTIC TUESDA. ESPECIALLY IF IT GLOWS. I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE COUNCILMAN INGLE JOINING THE MEETING. THANK YOU. OKAY. I'M HAVING A MOMENT. OKAY.
I DID COME. ALRIGHT. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD. WHEN WILL WE BE GETTING THE LIST OF THE PAVEMENT MARKINGS THAT ARE TO BE DONE? WE CAN.OU MEAN FOR CROSSWALKS OR JUST GENERALLY WITH THE WORK PLAN FOR FISCAL YEAR 25, PAVEMENT MARKINGS. SO THE WORK PLAN FOR THAT INCLUDES GENERAL UPGRADES WHICH WE CAN GET A LIST. SO ITEMS WHERE WE WOULD ALREADY BE LONG DOING LONG LINE STRIPING, BUT WE WOULD BE GOING BACK, SAY WITH A SIX INCH LINE INSTEAD OF A FOUR INCH. THINGS LIKE THAT. WE CAN GET A LIST OF THOSE. AS FAR AS THE REQUESTS IN
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THE CAPITAL BUDGET WAS TO DO VISION ZERO PROJECTS, AND WE HAVE A COUPLE, MAYBE THAT ARE ACTUALLY SHOVEL READY. SO OUR PLAN IS TO TAKE THIS FALL IN EARLY SPRING TO START FLESHING THOSE OUT AND GETTING FINAL DESIGNS FOR THOSE, AND THEN BE ABLE TO STRIPE AND INSTALL THOSE IN THE SUMMER. THE OTHER COMPONENT OF THAT IS WORKING WITH PROCUREMENT TO GET SOME ADDITIONAL CONTRACTORS LINED UP TO BE ABLE TO GET THOSE INSTALLED QUICKLY. SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL ALSO BE WORKING ON THIS FALL. WE CAN SHARE A LIST OF THOSE LOCATIONS. THEY ARE RANKED FROM HIGHEST TO LOWEST LEVEL OF DANGER IS THAT SOMETHING WHERE I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN TALKS OF A PUBLIC WORKS DASHBOARD GOING ON, AND ALSO THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION KIND OF BEING THAT MEDIARY TO CONNECT ALL OF THE PIECES. BUT, YOU KNOW, AS I'M SITTING HERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT MY SLOW STREETS PROGRAMS TO IDENTIFY, SEE ANY AND THERE'S A FEW THAT ARE ALSO WITHIN THE PAVEMENT MARKING THAT ARE COVERED IN THE PAVEMENT MARKINGS. AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE PLENTY OF WORK TO BE DONE IN DISTRICT 15. BUT, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S GREAT TO HEAR, OH, THIS IS ALREADY FUNDED BY THIS, BUT IS THERE A DASHBOARD? AND I THINK I FEEL LIKE I'M REMEMBERING ONE WHERE YOU CAN GO AND LOOK AND, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST TOUCH ON AN INTERSECTION AND SEE THIS HAS WORK COMING UP. THIS IS PLANNED LIKE WHEN IT'S PROJECTED TO BE DONE JUST SO WE DON'T HAVE TO CONTINUALLY BOTHER YOU ALL AND SAYING LIKE, IS THIS ON YOUR RADAR? WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT ADDING THOSE, SPECIFICALLY THE VISION ZERO LOCATIONS. I DON'T KNOW, I IT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR JEFF ON IF THE LONG LINE STRIPING OVERLAPS GENERALLY WITH THE PAVING THAT'S PLANNED, OR IF IT'S IN ADDITION, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY GET THAT SORTED OUT AND GET THAT ADDED TO SOMETHING THAT'S GRAPHIC. SURE. THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC. AND I GUESS I DO HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. JUST KEEP COMING. I KNOW THAT I HAVE 24 MINUTES. GREAT. NO, I'M JUST KIDDING. SO WE JUST HAD SOME STRIPING, A CROSSWALK THAT WAS PUT IN ON GOSS AVENUE AT SPRATT, AND WE ARE SO THANKFUL FOR IT BECAUSE IT ALSO HAS THAT CLEAR HELP ME OUT. RB RFB RAPID FLASHING BEACON RECTANGULAR RECTANGULAR. DO YOU HAVE ANY HOURS? SO BUT UNFORTUNATELY THE CROSSWALK EVEN THOUGH IT'S IN ITS, YOU KNOW, INFANCY AT LESS THAN A YEAR OLD, IT'S ALREADY COMING UP AND HALF OF IT'S KIND OF FADED AND GONE SOME STRIPES THAT WERE JUST PUT IN ON HORSE.LOVE THEM. SO EXCITED. WITHIN A WEEK THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN CHIPPING. AND I'M JUST WONDERING BEFORE THERE WAS A CONVERSATION ABOUT NOT HAVING THE CORRECT PAINT OR THE PAINT PROVIDER OR, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST WONDERING, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL ARE LOOKING INTO IN, LIKE THE LONGEVITY OF THESE MARKINGS? BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WITH THAT, THE COST OF THERMO PAINT, IT'S UNFORTUNATE TO SEE SUCH A SHORT LIFESPAN. WE CAN CERTAINLY FOLLOW UP ON THOSE THOSE TWO LOCATIONS SPECIFICALLY, OR IF THERE ARE OTHERS YOU WANT TO SEND US,ND WE CAN CHECK IN ON THE INSTALL DATE AND SEE, I MEAN, IF IT'S N MEETING OUR EXPECTATION, IF WE THINK THERE'S SOME ISSUE WITH EITHER THE PRODUCT OR THENSTALLATION METHOD, WE CAN CCK IWITH THE CONTRAOR. ANK U. SO VY MU. 'SFO. IE U MADE JENNIFER'S DAY, AND I'M SORRY FOR THE SENIOR MOMENTS THAT I'VE HAD. THANK YOU FOR COMING HERE. STICK AROUND. I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. THANK YOU. THERE AREN'T ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. THIS MEETING IS NOW
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