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GOOD AFTERNOON, AND WELCOME TO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE. I'M COUNCILWOMAN MADONNA FLOOD,
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CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE. I'M JOINED BY MY VICE CHAIR, COUNCILMAN SCOTT REED, BY[Roll Call]
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. COUNCILMAN BEN WEBER, COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW OWEN, COUNCIL MEMBER ROBIN ENGEL HAS AN EXCUSED ABSENCE, AND COUNCILMAN KHALIL BATSHON, WHO'S VIRTUALLY. AND WE'RE ALSO JOINED BY COUNCILWOMAN TAMMY HAWKINS VIRTUALLY, WE ARE GOING TO BE HOLDING ITEM NUMBER TWO, NUMBER FIVE AND NUMBER SIX AT THE REQUEST OF SPONSORS OR, EXCUSE ME, COUNCIL MEMBERS WHOSE DISTRICT THE ZONING CHANGES IN. AND THE LAST ONE IS THE MANUFACTURED HOUSING IS BEING HELD UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING DUE TO CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE GOING TO HAPPEN TOMORROW. OUR FIRST[1. O-179-24 AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE ZONING OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 6400 SIX MILE LANE CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 1.20 ACRES AND BEING IN LOUISVILLE METRO (CASE NO. 24ZONE0038). Action Required By: November 1, 2024 **Council Member Pat Mulvihill (D-10) can vote on this zoning change** Sponsors: Madonna Flood (D-24) ]
ORDER OF BUSINESS IS AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE ZONING OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 6406 MILE LANE, CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 1.20 ACRES AND BEING A LOCAL METRO CASE NUMBER 24, ZONE 0038 PROPERLY MOVED IN SECOND. WE'RE READY FOR DISCUSSION. OH, THIS MEETING IS BEING HELD PURSUANT TO KRS 61.826 AND COUNCIL RULE FIVE EIGHT. SORRY METRO OFFICE OF PLANNING. THIS IS PLANNING COMMISSION DOCKET NUMBER 24, ZONE 38 FOR SIX SIX MILE LANE APARTMENTS. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 6406 MILE LANE. LOCATED. METRO COUNCIL COUNCIL DISTRICT TEN, THIS IS AN AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH OF THE EXISTING PROPERTY. YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE AND ACCESSORY STRUCTURES THAT ARE LOCATED ON THERE. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A CHANGE IN USE TO RESIDENTIAL, THIS IS A ZONING MAP OF THE AREA, OKAY. YEAH. HERE. HERE'S THE PROPERTY OUTLINED IN RED RIGHT HERE, YOU CAN SEE THERE IS R5 AND THEN SOME R6, IN THE VICINITY, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A CHANGE IN USE OR A CHANGE IN ZONING. I'M SORRY, FROM R5 TO R7, AND THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 1.2 ACRES. ON THE PROPOSED REZONING, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT 20 DWELLING UNITS IN TWO, TWO STORY BUILDINGS. THE EXISTING STRUCTURES WILL BE REMOVED, AND THEN ACCESS WILL COME DIRECTLY FROM SIX MILE LANE, HERE'S THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. SIX MILE LANE IS ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THIS, THIS EXHIBIT, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE TWO PROPOSED BUILDINGS LOCATED HERE, KIND OF SHADED IN GRAY, WITH ACCESS COMING OFF SIX MILE, PARKING LOT AND ATTENTION BEING PROVIDED. THESE ARE SOME ELEVATIONS THAT WERE PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT AS PART OF THEIR TESTIMONY AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING. THIS IS A GOOGLE STREET VIEW PHOTO, LOOKING INTO THE SITE, YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING STRUCTURE AND SOME OF THE OTHER STRUCTURES THAT ARE GOING TO BE REMOVED, THIS IS, SOME OF THE ADJACENT SITES, VERY RESIDENTIAL IN NATURE IN THE AREA, THE APPLICANT CONDUCTED THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING ON MARCH 6TH, 2020 FOR THE LAND DEVELOPMENT TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE MEETINGS, WAS ON JUNE 27TH, 2024, AND THEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING WAS ON AUGUST 1ST, 2024, THE MOTION WAS TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R5 TO R7, AND THAT PASSED BY A VOTE OF 9 TO 0. THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE. UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME. THIS IS, COUNCILMAN PAT MULVIHILL'S DISTRICT, AND OUR OFFICE RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM HIM THAT HE WAS IN SUPPORT OF THIS ZONING CHANGE, AND HE HAD NO QUESTIONS OR FOLLOW UP REQUESTS FOR INFORMATION. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ANYBODY VIRTUALLY. SEEING NONE. PARDON? NO. OKAY. GO AHEAD. I JUST WANTED TO IN LIGHT OF THURSDAY'S COUNCIL MEETING WHEN I WAS SAYING I HAD AN ISSUE WITH THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT NIGHT, AND THAT I GENERALLY AM VERY MUCH PRO DENSITY. I WANT TO SAY[00:05:05]
HOW MUCH I LIKE THIS PLAN AND WILL BE VOTING FOR IT. IT WAS THE PARTICULARS OF A PARTICULAR PLAN THAT I DECIDED TO VOTE AGAINST, AND SO THIS IS THIS. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT OUT LOUD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE'RE READY TO VOTE. VOTING IS CLOSED. YOU HAVE FIVE YES VOTES. VOTING IS CLOSING. FIVE YES VOTES. AND IT WILL GO TO OLD BUSINESS AT OUR NEXT[3. O-183-24 AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE ZONING OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 7504 PRESTON HIGHWAY CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 1.65 ACRES AND BEING IN LOUISVILLE METRO (CASE NO. 24ZONE0019). Action Required By: November 1, 2024 **Council Member Dan Seum, Jr. (R-13) can vote on this zoning change** Sponsors: Madonna Flood (D-24) ]
COUNCIL MEETING. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE ZONING OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 7504 PRESTON HIGHWAY, CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 1.65 ACRES AND BEING A LITTLE METRO. CASE NUMBER 24, ZONE 0019. MOTION. SECOND. PROPERLY MOVED IN SECOND. AND WE ARE ALSO. WE'RE JOINED BY COUNCILMAN DAN SIME JUNIOR. HE DOES HAVE A VOTE ON THIS CASE. IT'S IN HIS DISTRICT. GO AHEAD. MAYOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS IS PLANNING COMMISSION DOCKET NUMBER 24, ZONE 19 FOR PRESTON FLATS, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 7504 PRESTON HIGHWAY AND IS LOCATED IN METRO COUNCIL DISTRICT 13. THE PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN BLUE HERE, IT IS AN EXISTING VACANT PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS PROPOSING A RESIDENTIAL USE, IF IT LOOKS FAMILIAR, IT'S BECAUSE WE HAD A PREVIOUS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST ON THIS PROPERTY, THAT WAS FOR A COMMERCIAL, ZONING AT THAT TIME. ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R5 TO R6, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS R5 AND R4, TO THE TO THE WEST. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR ALONG PRESTON HIGHWAY, SO THE REQUEST IS A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R5 TO R6, THE IT IS ONE UNDEVELOPED PARCEL, KIND OF TUCKED IN BEHIND THE COMMERCIAL CENTER THAT FRONTS ON PRESTON HIGHWAY, AS WELL AS SOME SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES THAT ARE ALONG CLAY, CLAY STREET, ACCESS IS FROM CLAY, AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 28 MULTIFAMILY UNITS AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT. SO ACCESS WILL COME FROM CLAY AVENUE. INTO THE SITE, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE THREE PROPOSED BUILDINGS HERE. KIND OF SHADED IN GRAY, AND SO, AGAIN, KIND OF A, YOU KNOW, INTERESTING PIECE OF PARCEL. PARCEL BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE YOUR TYPICAL SQUARE OR WHATEVER THAT YOU GET. BUT AGAIN, KIND OF TUCKED IN BEHIND THE COMMERCIAL USES THAT ARE ON PRESTON AND SINGLE FAMILY USES THAT ARE ON CLAY AVENUE, THIS WAS A RENDERING THAT WAS PROVIDED ONE OF ONE OF THE RENDERINGS FOR BUILDING A, THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT AS PART OF THEIR TESTIMONY DURING THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING, AND HERE ARE THE OTHER TWO BUILDINGS. SO THIS IS A LOOK FROM CLAY AVENUE INTO THE SITE. SO THIS IS THE EXISTING DRIVE.THAT KIND OF GOES BACK, AND THEN YOU YOU VEER OFF TO GET TO THE DEVELOPMENT SITE, THIS IS LOOKING, FROM THE ACCESS EASEMENT THAT THERE'S AN ACCESS EASEMENT THAT COMES FROM PRESTON, SO THIS IS JUST A VIEW FROM THERE HERE. SO YOU CAN SEE PRESTON HIGHWAY HERE. THERE IS AN ACCESS EASEMENT THAT RUNS BETWEEN. HOLY SMOKES, AND THEN THIS BUILDING THAT HAS A SUBWAY AND ANOTHER USE IN IT. THIS IS THE STREET VIEW LOOKING FROM PRESTON DOWN THAT ACCESS EASEMENT. THAT KIND OF JUST SERVES AS A SECONDARY, ACCESS POINT, THESE ARE SOME GOOGLE STREET VIEWS LOOKING DOWN CLAY AVENUE, HERE ON THE TOP. AND THEN MORE PICTURES OF WHAT'S ACROSS PRESTON HIGHWAY FROM THE FROM THE PROPOSED, ACCESS EASEMENT, THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING WAS CONDUCTED ON JANUARY 8TH, 2020 FOR THE LAND DEVELOPMENT TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE. MEETING WAS HELD ON JUNE 13TH, 2024. AND THEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S PUBLIC HEARING WAS ON AUGUST 1ST. THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S MOTION WAS TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL THAT CHANGED THE ZONING FROM R5 TO R6, AND THAT PASSED BY A VOTE OF 6 TO 2, AND THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? LET THE RECORD SHOW WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY COUNCILMAN CHAPPELL, AND IT'S FOR 28 UNITS. RIGHT? 28? CORRECT AND CAN YOU POINT OUT GREEN SPACE ON THAT, ON THE PLAN. YOU LOOK AT MY PAPER. PLA. SO THEY HAVE, THE SO THERE'S A REQUIRED BUFFER THAT GOES AROUND THE SITES THAT ARE ZONED R5 AND R4. THERE'S WHAT'S CALLED A LAWN COURT. IT'S KIND OF HARD TO READ
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ON THIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THERE'S AN AREA OVER HERE TO THE RIGHT SIDE. JUST TO THE OF BUILDING C HERE, SO THIS AREA RIGHT HERE, THIS IS DETENTION BASIN UP HERE. AND THAT'S ALL THAT I GOT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THIS IS IN COUNCILMAN SIMS DISTRICT. DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILMAN SIGN, PLEASE. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, WE PUT THIS THIS INFORMATION, THE ZONING CHANGE IN OUR NEWSLETTERS. NO RESPONSE, NO CALLS, SO NO OPPOSITION.WE'RE JUST ASKING THAT THE STANDARD BINDING ELEMENTS BE INCLUDED, TO ENSURE THAT THAT.
AND WE'RE GOOD TO GO. LET'S SEE. THERE WAS FIVE PEOPLE THAT SPOKE IN OPPOSITION AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT AND AGAIN, THE CONCERN THAT A LOT A LOT OF THE DISCUSSION WAS ABOUT THE ACCESS TO THE SITE. RIGHT. BECAUSE IT'S IF YOU GROWING UP IN THE AREA, IT'S A REALLY IT'S A TIGHT SQUEEZE. IT MAY NOT LOOK LIKE THAT ON THE MAP, BUT IT'S REALLY A TIGHT SQUEEZE. RIGHT, I THINK SOME OF THESE STREETS THAT WERE BUILT LONG AGO WHEN THEY WEREN'T ANTICIPATING, YOU KNOW, THE WIDTH OF THOSE STREETS ARE NOT, TO ME, ARE NOT REAL WIDE FOR EVEN FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES FOR THE OTHER END OF THE STREET. BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, COUNCILMAN OWEN? THANK YOU. CHAIR. I AM KIND OF A BIG MOUTH ABOUT THESE, ABOUT THIS SUBJECT. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE ADDRESSED IN THIS, THIS PROJECT AND THE PREVIOUS ONE. I AND MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES UP HERE HAVE ARGUED THAT WE NEED MORE HOUSING TYPES AND MORE DEVELOPMENT TYPES. AND THE LAST TWO PROJECTS, THIS ONE AND THE PREVIOUS ONE, ARE ON JUST OVER AN ACRE OF LAND, AND ONE WAS 20 UNITS AND ONE WAS 28 UNITS. AND WE'VE COMPLAINED BEFORE THAT WE ONLY GET SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS OF 50 PLUS UNITS OR MULTI-FAMILY PROJECTS OF HUNDREDS OF UNITS. AND I THINK IT'S REFRESHING AND NICE, AND I WANTED TO POINT IT OUT THAT WE'RE DOING 20 UNITS AND 28 UNITS ON THESE LAST TWO PROJECTS ON JUST OVER AN ACRE OF LAND. LAST THING I'LL SAY IS EVERY UNIT OF HOUSING THAT WE BRING ONLINE IN THIS CITY HELPS TO HOLD DOWN PROPERTY PRICES AS WE GO FORWARD. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER ANYONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE? TWO QUICK QUESTIONS. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE AXIS OF THE OBJECTIONS FOR THE TWO DISSENTING VOTES WERE ON THIS, AGAIN, A LOT OF IT WAS WAS ABOUT THE ACCESS TO AND FROM THE SITE. YOU KNOW, YOU HAD THE ONE ACCESS POINT THAT WENT OUT TO CLAY AVENUE. BUT THEN, LIKE I SAID, THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION AT BOTH LDA AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ABOUT THAT. ACCESS EASEMENT THAT MAY OR MAY NOT EXIST FROM PRESTON HIGHWAY, ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT WAS SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION WAS THE PROPERTY HOLDER, WHO WAS SAYING THAT THEY DIDN'T REALIZE WHAT THEY WERE SIGNING OR WHATEVER, BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WAS JUST SOME OF THE DISCUSSION THAT CAME UP AT PLANNING COMMISSION. AND SO, YEAH, JUST JUST OBJECTION TO THE TO THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND, AND THE ACCESS POINTS. AND FORGIVE ME IF I MISSED THIS IN THE DOCUMENTS, BUT IS THERE ACCESS TO PUBLIC TRANSIT AT ALL ON THIS, THERE THERE WOULD BE PUBLIC TRANSIT ALONG PRESTON HIGHWAY. CORRECT. SOMEWHERE ALONG PRESTON HIGHWAY. RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE, BUT, YEAH, I THINK, COMMISSIONER. SO THE ANSWER IS YES, THERE IS. SO WHEN THERE IS WOULD BE ON PRESTON HIGHWAY ACCESS TO PUBLIC TRANSIT. YES. OKAY THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO START ASKING THAT ABOUT ALL OF THESE. SO THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER CARLSON, WHO'S THE FORMER FIRE CHIEF OUT IN UNCLE OWEN AND HIS CONCERNS WAS PEDESTRIAN. AND THE TRAFFIC AND THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS BECAUSE OF TRAFFIC. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? COUNCILMAN SUN? THAT THUMBS UP BECAUSE YOU'RE READY. OKAY. ANYBODY IN THE VIRTUAL WORLD HAVE ANYTHING? COUNCILMAN SHAWN. THANK YOU.
CHAIR FLOOD, BRIAN, CAN YOU MIND PUTTING THE ENTRY POINT SLIDE BACK ON THE SCREEN? I CAN'T PULL IT UP ON MY COMPUTER. BECAUSE YOU WE QUESTION THE TIGHTNESS AND THE SQUEEZE OF THE ENTRY POINT, AND I THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES WE FACED IN THE LAST WEEK'S MEETING OF THE COUNCIL WHERE WE DENIED, A DEVELOPMENT DUE TO THE ENTRY AND THE EXIT, OF THE AREA AND IT BEING TOO TIGHT, BUT ALSO BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC FLOW AND WHAT IT'S GOING TO CREATE IN ADDITION TO TRAFFIC BACKUPS, HAVE WE ADDRESSED SOME OF THOSE ISSUES, COUNCILMAN SAM AND BRIAN AND THE REST OF THE COMMITTEE, JUST SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE STAYING AS CONSISTENT AS
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WE CAN BE EVEN IF THEY'RE SIMILAR THAT WE'RE ASKING SOME OF THE LEARNING FROM FROM EACH OTHER'S DIFFERENT DISTRICTS. SURE. SO ON, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE THERE WERE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. ONE, CLAY AVENUE. SO CLAY AVENUE ON THE PLAN, THEY'RE SHOWING 22.5FT. FROM PRESTON BACK TO THE ENTRANCE POINT, AND THEN 21 JUST BEYOND THAT. BUT THEY THEY DO MEET THE 20 FOOT MINIMUM THAT WE NOW REQUIRE, THERE AND THEN THEY HAVE THE 30 FOOT ACCESS EASEMENT SHOWN. AND THEN ARE SHOWING THAT THEY WILL HAVE, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'LL GO OUT AND MEASURE AND IF THEY HAVE TO DO ANY KIND OF WIDENING. BUT, YOU KNOW, GIVEN LOOKING AT THAT, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHETHER OR NOT YOU DO HAVE PARKING, THAT WILL PROBABLY GO AWAY. BUT THEN YOU KNOW THAT THAT APPEARS TO BE 20FT. BUT THEY AT LEAST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST 20FT TO GET BACK TO THE TO THE SITE ON THE INTERIOR. SO THAT'S, THAT IS SHOWN ON THE PLAN. WHAT ABOUT THE FIRE LANE ACCESS, THERE FOR THE FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT. IS THAT, IS THAT IS THERE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THAT? I KNOW THAT WAS ONE OF THE ISSUES WE HAD IN THE FINDING OF FACTS LAST WEEK WAS FIRE LANE ACCESS WAS BEHIND THE PROPERTIES OR BEHIND THE DEVELOPMENT VERSUS IN FRONT OF THEM. SO IT WAS HARDER TO GET IN AND OUT OF THERE, TOO. AND I'M JUST TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, JUST BE AS SURE WE DID NOT HAVE THAT SAME, YOU KNOW, A SIMILAR REQUEST FOR THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU.I WAS LOOKING FOR SOMETHING. I SAW SOMETHING ABOUT FIRE LANES MENTIONED IN THE RECORD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I'M IN THE QUEUE, BUT I WITHDRAW. OKAY, MADAM CHAIR. YES. THANK COUNCIL MEMBER REQUEST AT THIS TIME. I'M HAPPY TO READ THAT IN. IF IT'D BE NUMBER NINE, ANY SIGNIFICANT INCREASES TO THE PROPOSED STRUCTURES E.G. INCREASES IN BUILDING HEIGHT, NUMBER OF UNITS, NUMBER OF BUILDINGS, ANY INCREASE IN DENSITY ON THE PROPERTY, ANY CHANGES IN USE ON THE PROPERTY WHICH DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR SUBCOMMITTEE THEREOF, AND OR ANY AMENDMENTS TO THE BINDING ELEMENTS OTHER THAN I. THE ADDITION OF NEW BINDING ELEMENTS TO I CHANGES TO BINDING ELEMENTS THAT MERELY UPDATE THE PUBLIC HEARING DATE, OR THREE. I UPDATING A PREVIOUS VERSION OF THIS BINDING ELEMENT TO REFLECT THE CURRENT LANGUAGE SHALL BE REVIEWED BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WITH FINAL ACTION TO BE DETERMINED BY METRO COUNCIL. I'LL MOVE THAT AMENDMENT PROBABLY MOVED IN SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT BINDING ELEMENT. SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. I. THOSE OPPOSED BY LIKE SIGN. HEARING NONE. MOTION CARRIES. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? SEEING NONE, WE'RE READY TO VOTE. COUNCIL MEMBER SIGN. YES. VOTING IS CLOSED. YOU HAVE SEVEN? YES VOTES. THIS WILL GO TO OLD BUSINESS AT OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. THANK YOU.
[4. O-184-24 AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE AREAWIDE ZONING OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 7201 WATSON LANE CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 14.35 ACRES AND BEING IN LOUISVILLE METRO (CASE NO. 24ZONE0039). Action Required By: November 7, 2024 **Council Member Cindi Fowler (D-14) can vote on this zoning change** Sponsors: Madonna Flood (D-24) ]
MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE AREA WIDE ZONING OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 7201 WATSON LANE, CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 14.35 ACRES AND BEING IN LOUISVILLE METRO CASE NUMBER 24, ZONE 0039. PROPERLY MOVED IN SECOND. WE'RE READY FOR DISCUSSION. OKAY, THIS CASE IS, DOCKET NUMBER 24, ZONE 39 FOR WATSON LANE ELEMENTARY. AREA WIDE, THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS 7201 WATSON LANE. IT IS LOCATED IN METRO COUNCIL DISTRICT 14. THIS IS AN AERIAL PHOTO OF THE SITE. IT IS THE OLD WATSON LANE ELEMENTARY SITE, THIS IS THE SECOND OF A SERIES OF REQUESTS THAT YOU ARE HEARING THAT ARE SIMILAR IN NATURE BECAUSE THIS PROPERTY WAS PURCHASED BY LOUISVILLE METRO GOVERNMENT FOR THE PURPOSE OF EXPLORING, OPTIONS FOR POTENTIAL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, AND SO, PER A RESOLUTION FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION, OFFICE OF PLANNING STAFF WORKED WITH THE OFFICE OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TO HOLD A SERIES OF NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS TO DISCUSS POTENTIAL OPTIONS FOR THIS SITE. AND SO YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING FORMERLY INSTITUTIONAL, PROPOSED WILL BE RESIDENTIAL, THE ZONING IN THE AREA IS PREDOMINANTLY R4, IT IS NEIGHBORHOOD FORM DISTRICT. YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL ZONING AS YOU GO OVER TOWARDS DIXIE HIGHWAY CORRIDOR, AND THEN ULTIMATELY WHAT THE OFFICE OF PLANNING STAFF RECOMMENDED WAS[00:20:04]
TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO R5 A, AND WE'LL GET INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT MOMENTARILY. THE SITE IS APPROXIMATELY 14.35 ACRES IN AREA. AS WE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED, IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED R4, THERE'S A NUMBER OF STREETS THAT THE PROPERTY HAS FRONTAGES ON, AND SO THAT WAS KIND OF, INTERESTING FROM A PLANNING STANDPOINT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE DON'T ALWAYS HAVE THE BEST CONNECTIVITY FOR SITES, BUT THIS ONE HAS ALL KINDS OF FRONTAGES, AS YOU SAW IN THE AERIAL PHOTO, THIS IS JUST A GOOGLE STREET VIEW. PHOTO, LOOKING INTO THE SITE. SO YOU CAN SEE THE, THE OLD WATSON LANE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID WAS, BECAUSE SOME OF THE CONCERN THAT WE HAD AT THE FIRST NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING WAS, WELL, WE WANT SOMETHING THAT IS, COMPARABLE IN SIZE TO, WHAT MAY TO WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO WE DON'T WANT ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO BE MUCH LARGER THAN IN TERMS OF SCALE VERSUS THE EXISTING HOMES THAT ARE IN THE AREA. SO WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE HOUSES IN THE AREA AND KIND OF FOUND THAT THE, YOU KNOW, AVERAGE HOUSE SIZE WITHIN THAT THAT GENERAL AREA WAS ABOUT 1200FT■!S, AND SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AS, IF AND WHEN METRO GOVERNMENT TAKES ACTIONS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, WITH A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR THE SITE, THESE ARE JUST SOME PHOTOS AND SO YOU SEE A LOT OF LIKE, SINGLE STORY, SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES, SOME STORY AND A HALF. I THINK THERE WERE A COUPLE, TWO STORY HOUSES IN THAT AREA. BUT THIS IS JUST VERY COMMON FOR THE SIZE OF STRUCTURE THAT'S IN THE, THE AREA, THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL PLAN. IT'S NOT A DEVELOPMENT PLAN. IT IS CONCEPTUAL, SO THE ORIGINS OF THIS PLAN WAS THAT WHENEVER METRO GOVERNMENT, WHENEVER COUNCILWOMAN FOWLER WAS, YOU KNOW, COMING UP WITH THE, THE IDEA ABOUT WHAT COULD POTENTIALLY HAPPEN ON THE SITE, YOU KNOW, HOW PEOPLE WANTED TO KNOW, WELL, HOW COULD IT POSSIBLY BE USED AND SO KIND OF THE UNDERLYING THOUGHT IS THAT THE EXISTING ELEMENTARY SCHOOL BUILDING WOULD BE RENOVATED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF SENIOR HOUSING LOCATED WITHIN THAT, AND SO ON. THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN, WHAT YOU SEE ON THE PINK IS THE EXISTING SCHOOL WITH THE WITH THE YELLOW IS LIKE THE CAFETERIA AND THE GYM, POTENTIALLY YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, MAYBE HAVE, HAVE LIKE A ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT KIND OF GOES AROUND AND FORMS KIND OF A SQUARE THERE IN THE MIDDLE, THAT, THAT, THAT MIMICS THE, THE SCHOOL TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL SENIOR HOUSING THERE IN THE AREA, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME COMBINATION OF ATTACHED HOUSING, GOING AROUND THE, THE AREA AGAIN, BECAUSE YOU HAVE SO MUCH, SO MANY DIFFERENT ROAD FRONTAGES. RUN ROAD FRONTAGES THERE IN THE AREA, YOU KNOW, KIND OF ACCOMMODATES ITSELF TO BEING ABLE TO DEVELOP AND HAVE ACCESS TO, TO STRUCTURES, AGAIN, THE, YOU KNO, A, AN ATTACHED, PRODUCT WAS, SHOWN ON THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT A LOT OF THE, THE SPACE THAT'S REQUIRED WHENEVER YOU'RE HAVING DETACHED UNITS AND SO THE THOUGHT IS THAT YOU COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE SOME SORT OF, YOU KNOW, CONDOMINIUM OR TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT, THAT WHERE YOU HAVE OWNER OCCIED UNITS,UT TY'RE, THEY'RE ATTACHED. AND SO THEY WOULD OWN THE UNIT, BUT NOT NECESSARILY THE LAND. SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN ALREADY, OTHER THINGS THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD LIKE TO SEE INCLUDED IN THERE IS POTENTIALLY A DAYCARE, AS WELL AS SOME KIND OF CLINIC OR COMMUNITY CENTER SPACE. AND THEN A POTENTIAL, PLAYGROUND AREA IN SOME OF THE GREEN SPACE THAT'S SURROUNDING THE, THE EXISTING SCHOOL AREA, SO PEOPLE HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT SOME TOWNHOMES COULD POTENTIALLY LOOK AT. SO WE WENTUT AND JUST TOOK SOME PICTURES OF LIKE WHAT SOME TWO STORY TOWNHOMES LOOK LIKE.AND JUST TO KIND OF GIVE AN IDEA OF LIKE SCALE AND CHARACTER AND WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE WHEN THEY'RE ATTACHED. AND SO THESE ARE JUST SOME EXAMPLES THAT WE PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC. SO, AGAIN, THE OFFICE OF PLANNING AND OFFICE OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, COMBINED, FORCES, IF YOU WOULD. AND SO WE HAD, WE CONDUCTED TWO NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, THE FIRST WAS ON APRIL 24TH, AND THEN THE SECOND WAS ON JUNE 5TH, APRIL 24TH WAS VERY MUCH A LISTENING SESSION. WE WANTED TO KNOW WHAT IDEAS PEOPLE HAD, WHAT THOUGHTS THEY HAD, WHAT EXPERIENCES THEY HAD WITH THE SITE, WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO POTENTIALLY SEE ON THE SITE, AND THEN ON JUNE 5TH, WE CAME BACK WITH MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT POTENTIALLY COULD HAPPEN ON THERE AND WHAT ZONING WE THOUGHT WOULD BE NECESSARY. AGAIN, WITH THE, WITH THE SENIOR HOUSING IN THE MIDDLE, YOU'RE YOU'RE HAVING TO LOOK AT SOME SORT OF MULTIFAMILY ZONING CLASSIFICATION ON THE SITE, BUT BECAUSE YOU HAVE 14 ACRES THERE, THEN THE R5A SHOULD EASILY ACCOMMODATE THAT SINCE YOU GET ABOUT 12 UNITS AN ACRE WITH THAT, AND SO THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION, THE LAND
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DEVELOPMENT, TRANSPORTATION TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE MEETING WAS ON JULY 11TH, AND THEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING, WE HAD A NIGHT HEARING, AT THE SUN VALLEY COMMUNITY CENTER, THAT WAS ON AUGUST 7TH, IT WAS CONTINUED BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A QUORUM, BUT ULTIMATELY, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THAT CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R4 TO R5 A, AND THAT PASSED BY A VOTE OF 5 TO 0, SO THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. TRAVIS.SURE. HAPPY TO, HI. COMMITTEE, DID I INTRODUCE MYSELF TODAY? I DON'T KNOW IF I DID. TRAVIS FEASTER, ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY, THIS IS THE THIRD TIME Y'ALL HEAR THIS SPIEL FOR ME.
Y'ALL ARE GOING TO GET SIX OF THEM. EVERYONE ELSE ON COUNCIL WILL JUST GET THREE. BUT, THIS IS THE SECOND OF THESE THREE SIMILARLY SITUATED PROJECTS. BRIAN DID A GOOD JOB OF COVERING. GENERALLY, THESE ARE METRO PROPERTIES. METRO AREA WIDE REZONING EACH OF THEM. THAT MEANS THERE'S NO DEVELOPMENT PLAN ATTACHED. NOTHING DETACHED. BINDING ELEMENTS OR CONDITIONS OF APPROVALS TO. HOWEVER, ON THE FRONT END, THE METRO WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND WITH MULTIPLE ROUNDS OF NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, VOLUNTARILY GOING TO A NIGHT HEARING THAT HAD MAYBE A DOZEN PEOPLE OR LESS IN ATTENDANCE. YEAH, NOWHERE NEAR THE 300 THAT'S REQUIRED TO SIGN UP, RIGHT? SO METRO IS REALLY TRYING TO GET THE PUBLIC INVOLVED IN THESE, AND THEY VERBALLY COMMITTED TO DOING SO ON THE BACK END. THAT INCLUDES TAKING WHATEVER COMES FORWARD TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH COUNCIL COULD THEN TAKE UP IF IT WISHES, UNDER 1175, ALSO, THESE PROPERTIES ARE STILL OWNED BY METRO. SO IF THEY WERE TO RADICALLY CHANGE THE PLAN AND DECIDE TO SELL IT, COUNCIL WOULD HAVE CONTROL OVER THE SURPLUS RESOLUTION. SO YOU ALL ARE GOING TO HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITY FOR OVERSIGHT DEPENDING ON HOW THINGS, TRANSPIRE WITH THESE IN THE FUTURE, AGAIN, WE DON'T DO THESE ALL THAT OFTEN, BUT WE'RE GOING HAVE THREE IN RELATIVELY QUICK SUCCESSION. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY GENERAL QUESTIONS OR ANY SITE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER. BUT OTHERWISE, THAT'S ABOUT ALL I WANTED TO SAY, COUNCILWOMAN FOWLER NOTIFIED MY OFFICE TODAY THAT SHE LL NOT BE PARTICIPATING IN THE DISCUSSION, NOR WILL SHE BE VOTING ON THIS PROJECT BECAUSE SHE'S BEEN VERY INVOLVED FROM THE CONCEPTION ON THE FROM THE FRONT END, EVEN WORKING WITH THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN. AND SHE'S BEEN, REALLY WORKING HARD ON THIS PROJECT. SO SHE IS NOT GOING TO WITH ANY OF US. COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL. CAN I GO AFTER KHALIL, PLEASESURE. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN. BUCKRN. COUNCILMAN. BUCKHORN THANKOU, IN OUR LANGUAGE AND THE WHEREAS CLAUSE AS WE WERE, THE LAST TWO WEEKS WITH, THE OTHER METRO PROPERTY ON STONE STREET AND DIXIE HIGHWAY, THERE, WHERE WE WERE VERY SPECIFIC ON WHAT THAT HOUSING UNIT WAS FOR. RIGHT. FOR EXAMPLE, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, BEING VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT THAT CENTER UNIT WHERE THE SCHOOL IS TO BE SPECIFIC, SENIOR LIVING HOUSING, BEING SOMEWHAT SPECIFIC ON THE TOWNHOMES AND SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS VERSUS, AN ABUNDANCE OF MULTIFAMILY, I GUESS YOU WOULD SAY. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? AND BEING JUST VERY GENERAL SPECIFIC ON, ON WHAT WE EXPECT THERE. IT DOES I DO THINK THIS PLAN IS A LITTLE BIT LESS, ESPECIALLY WITH THOSE SORT OF PERIMETER UNITS, A LITTLE LESS, FULLY BAKED AT THIS POINT THAN THE, VETERANS HOUSING WAS IN THE PREVIOUS CASE. SO I THINK WE CAN I CAN CERTAINLY WORK UP SOME LANGUAGE, THOUGH, TO DEALS WITH THE, THE ELDER UNITS WITH THE SORT OF CENTRAL BUILDING AND THAT THE PERIMETER BUILDINGS ARE SORT OF YOU KNOW, COHESIVE TO THAT CONCEPT. AGAIN, DON'T THINK THAT'S GOOD TO DO ON THE FLY, BUT I COULD, I COULD WORK WITH YOU, AND. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. PLEASE, TO GET THAT DONE BY COUNCIL, WOULD WE NEED A MOTION TO TABLE THIS AND THEN WORK ON THAT AND THEN BRING IT BACK, OR IS THAT SOMETHING? I MEAN, WE WOULD NEED TO MAYBE GET SOME OF, OTHER PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THAT CONVERSATION, WOULD THAT BE WISE FOR US TO DO IS MOTION TO TABLE OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD JUST, I MEAN, I GUESS THIS IS A QUESTION FOR CHAIR FLOOD. I MEAN, I'M NOT MAKING THE MOTION YET, BUT I'M ASKING FOR MAYBE HER OPINION ON THAT. I THINK IT'S I THINK THAT IT'S OKAY TO PASS IT OUT AND LET US DO LIKE WE DID AT THE AT THE COUNCIL MEETING WHEN WE INTRODUCED THE WHEREASES.
BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DO BINDING ELEMENTS AND WE CAN'T DO A CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. SO THE BEST WE'RE GOING TO GET IS THE WHEREASES. AND I THINK THAT, I THINK TRAVIS CAN WORK UP THE LANGUAGE IF THAT'S OKAY WITH COMMITTEE MEMBERS. I'M NOT IN THERE, SO I CAN'T SEE THE HEADS NODDING. SO YEAH, THEY'RE THEY'RE NODDING. OKAY THAT'S OKAY TO GO TO THE COUNCIL LEVEL.
YEAH. THEN. OKAY, TRAVIS, IF YOU DON'T MIND, CAN YOU WORK UP SOME OF THOSE WHEREASES, WE'LL LOOK AT THEM AND KIND OF GET THAT SQUARED AWAY AND BRING IT TO THE TO THE COUNCIL NEXT WEEK.
ABSOLUTELY. I'LL BE IN TOUCH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL. SURE. I
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GUESS I JUST HAVE SOME CLARIFICATION QUESTIONS. SO OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS A SITE THAT IS OWNED BY LOUISVILLE METRO. DO YOU REMEMBER WHEN WE BOUGHT THIS SITE? I KNOW IT'S BEEN WITHIN THE LAST THREE YEARS, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT DATE. OKAY. YEAH, I DO. OH YOU DO? YEAH IT WAS IN, MAYOR GREENBERG'S FIRST BUDGET. OKAY. AND IT WAS PURCHASED FROM JC.FOR $1 MILLION. ALL RIGHT, AND THE TWO DEPARTMENTS LEADING THE CHARGE, THE OFFICE OF PLANNING AND THE OFFICE OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. CORRECT. OKAY. IS THERE. AND WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR BUILDING THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN? SO ULTIMATELY, THE OFFICE OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PUTTING TOGETHER A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR THE SITE, WE WERE JUST KIND OF WORKING WITH THEM, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE DO THE PLANNING AND ZONING PART, AND THEN WE WANTED TO HELP THEM WITH THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AS WELL. SO ULTIMATELY, THERE WILL BE THE OFFICE OF HOUSING WILL OVERSEE ALL OF THAT PRO BRINGS Y NEXT QUESTION. IS THERE AN RFP OUT? AND IS WHEN IS THAT EXPECTED TO COME OUT? IT'S A SOLICITATION OF INTEREST. I'M SORRY, NOT OUR RFP, BUT NO, THERE IS NOT ANYTHING OUT AT THIS TIME. AND IS THERE AN S TIME ESTIMATE FOR, LIKE, IS THERE A GOAL FOR BUILDING THIS? I'M SURE ALL OF THIS WAS ADDRESSED IN THIS COMMUNITY MEETINGS, BUT I DID NOT ATTEND, WE DO NOT KNOW THAT TIME FRAME. NO IS THERE AN ESTIMATE? IF WE WERE TO BUILD TODAY HOW MUCH THAT PROPOSED SITE PLAN WOULD COST? I DO NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION. OKAY AND IS THIS A NORMAL PRACTICE FOR CITIES TO PURCHASE UP LARGE SWATHS OF LAND AND DICTATE WHAT GOES ON THEM? AND I GUESS A COUNTER TO THAT WOULD BE IF WE HAD STRONG PLANNING AND ZONING, WOULD THERE BE A NEED FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO IMPOSE SO MUCH INTO BUYING LAND? I MEAN, IT IS NOT AN UNCOMMON PRACTICE IN OTHER COMMUNITIES FOR THEM TO PURCHASE PROPERTIES AND THEN OVERSEE SOME, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, AFFORDABLE, AFFORDABLE DEVELOPMENT. IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR THAT TO HAPPEN IN OTHER COMMUNITIES. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE PRACTICED A WHOLE LOT IN THE PAST, BUT I THINK THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT, THE OFFICE OF HOUSING WAS WORKING WITH, YOU KNOW, OTHER PEOPLE TO IDENTIFY PROPERTIES AND FIND A WAY TO POTENTIALLY HAVE, YOU KNOW, OTHER, OTHER HOUSING OPTIONS OUT THERE OTHER THAN WHAT WE CURRENTLY ARE SEEING IN TERMS OF LIKE THE PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT SECTOR. I'M SURE THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE THAT CAME ACROSS MY MIND, BUT, THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN OWEN. THANK YOU.
CHAIR, SO I THINK I WANT TO BE CAREFUL. ON ONE HAND, THE PLACE WHERE YOU CAN ADD THE MOST VALUE IN REAL ESTATE IS TO GET THE ENTITLEMENTS DONE, WHICH IS TO GET THE ZONING CHANGED AND GET ALL OF THAT DONE. SO, SO CONSIDERING THAT AS A CITY, WE WE'RE DOING THE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF ADDING THE MOST VALUE AND WE'RE ALSO DICTATING WHAT WE WANT THIS TO LOOK ON THE LOOK LIKE ON THE BACK END, WHICH I THINK IS FANTASTIC. I MEAN, I THINK, I THINK TO BE PROACTIVE, LIKE THIS AND TO, ESPECIALLY IF YOU COME UP WITH A PLAN LIKE THIS ONE THAT IS SO INTERESTING AND THE USES ARE SO NEEDED, THEN I THINK IT'S, IT'S GENERALLY A VERY EXCITING PROPOSITION. WITH THAT SAID, WE HAVE MADE SOME SERIOUS MISTAKES ABOUT LAND THAT WE'VE OWNED IN THE PAST, AND WHAT I WANT TO BE CAUTIOUS ABOUT IS MAKING SURE THAT WE DON'T SELL OURSELVES SHORT, AND THAT WE DON'T UNDERVALUE OUR ASSETS GOING FORWARD. SO I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT CONVERSATION THAT WE HAVE. WE KNOW WHAT WE PAID FOR THE LAND. WE ADDED A TON OF VALUE. IF WE TAKE IT THROUGH THIS ENTITLEMENT PROCESS. AND WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE THAT WHEN WE EITHER PARTNER WITH SOMEONE, THAT'S ANOTHER OPTION WE'VE NEVER DONE. WE COULD BE A PARTNER WITH A DEVELOPER AND PARTICIPATE IN THE UPSIDE. THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF WAYS THAT WE COULD WE COULD APPROACH THIS
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GOING FORWARD. AND I THINK HONESTLY, ALL OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS SHOULD BE ON THE TABLE, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T SCREW IT UP LIKE WE HAVE IN THE PAST. AND BUT IN SOME WAYS, I THINK IT'S, IT'S GREAT THAT WE'VE BEEN PROACTIVE AND THAT WE'VE COME UP WITH THIS KIND OF A PLAN FOR THIS, FOR THIS ASSET. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ALLEN. CHAIR, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR MY MULTIPLE QUESTIONS. AND I KNOW YOU'RE NOT FEELING WELL, SO I APOLOGIZE TO YOU, SECOND LINE. TO ANDREW'S POINT, I GUESS IT'S A LITTLE QUESTION, BUT I'VE HAD BEFORE. SO IF, AS WE OWN THIS PROPERTY IN METRO AND WE ARE, I GUESS, DO WE HAVE A SCOPE OF ARE WE GOING TO FULLY DEVELOP IT AND COLLECT THE ROI ON IT, OR ARE WE GOING TO GET ALL THE ENTITLEMENTS DONE? KIND OF LIKE ANDREW SAID, AND THEN SELL IT TO A DEVELOPER THAT CAN POSSIBLY CHANGE SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT. BUT NOW THAT THEY'VE GOT THE ENTITLEMENTS, IT'S REALLY KIND OF AT THEIR AT THEIR WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO, THEY CAN DO GENERALLY SPEAKING.SO YOU KNOW OUR UNDERSTANDING FROM THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAD AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE OFFICE OF HOUSING WOULD, WOULD LEAD THE EFFORTS TO SEE ABOUT POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THIS SITE, IF WE RECEIVE SOME, YOU KNOW, SOLICITATIONS OF INTEREST FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE WILLING TO FOLLOW THE DIFFERENT RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE PUT IN THAT, THAT REQUEST, THEN METRO GOVERNMENT COULD THEN MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, AND THEN BUT THEN IF SOMEONE SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN THAT ANYMORE, WE CAN'T MAKE IT WORK, THEN, YOU KNOW, THERE WOULD NEED TO BE SOME BACK AND FORTH WITH METRO GOVERNMENT OR THE DEVELOPMENT WOULDN'T HAPPEN. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILWOMAN CHAPE? SURE. IS THERE ANYTHING ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW OR OR HAS ANYBODY MADE A MOTION TO TABLE, OR ARE WE JUST MOVING ON WITH A CLEAR VOTE ON SENDING THIS TO COUNCIL, MOVING IT ON TO COUNCIL AND PUTTING IT ON THE TRAVIS IS GOING TO WORK ON THE WHEREASES LIKE HE DID ON THE PREVIOUS CASE, I JUST WANT TO SAY ONE THING. I LOVE IT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO REUSE THE SCHOOL BECAUSE THEY HAVE DONE THAT WITH SOME OF THE ARCHDIOCESE OLD SCHOOLS BACK IN THE DAY AND MADE THOSE INTO SENIOR HOUSING. AND IT'S AMAZING IF YOU HAVEN'T GOT A CHANCE TO SEE ANY OF THOSE, IT'S, IT'S A NICE CONCEPT TO REUSE THOSE BUILDINGS AND THOSE PROPERTIES FOR THAT COUNCILMAN OWN SCHOOLS MAKE FOR AMAZING HOUSING. YEAH. AND LIKE YOU'RE SAYING, THEY HAVE LARGE WINDOWS.
THEY HAVE. I MEAN, THERE'S LOTS OF REASONS WHY THESE FACILITIES ARE TURNED INTO HOUSING. AND SO THE MORE OF THAT WE CAN DO, THE BETTER. AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. YOU KNOW, I AGREE WITH YOU. THEY WERE VERY WELL BUILT TOO, BACK IN THE DAY. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE BUILT STRONG FOR A REASON. YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM, ESPECIALLY IN THE 60S AND 70S, WHEN YOU KNOW, WE WEREN'T JUST WORRYING ABOUT TORNADOES. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? SEEING NONE, WE'RE READY TO VOTE. VOTING IS OPEN. VICE CHAIR. READ. FOR HIS CLOSING. YOU HAVE SIX YES VOTES AND THAT WILL GO TO OLD BUSINESS AT OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. AND THAT IS ALL THE BUSINESS WE HAVE FOR THIS COMMITTEE TODAY. SO WITHOUT OBJECTION, I APOLOGIZE. I DON'T THINK THE COUNTY ATTORNEY IS ENTITLED TO A MOMENT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE, BUT I DO HAVE A NOTE FOR YOU ALL, IF I MAY, MEGAN CANO JUST WALKED IN. SHE'S A3LU OF L LAW SCHOOL. SHE IS AN EXTERN WITH OUR OFFICE THIS SEMESTER, I INTRODUCED HER BRIEFLY IN THE DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS LAST WEEK. I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW SHE'LL BE ATTENDING SOME OF THESE MEETINGS. YOU'LL SEE HER AT COUNCIL MEETINGS AT, PLANNING COMMISSION. BOWSER ALL THE ALL THE VARIOUS LAND USE THINGS THAT MYSELF AND LAURA AND ANN SCHULTZ, HANDLE FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS. SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO MAKE THAT INTRODUCTION AND SEE YOU ALL RECOGNIZE THE PHRASE. WOULD YOU REPEAT YOUR NAME FOR ME, PLEASE? MEGAN CANO WELCOME, MEGAN. WITHOUT OBJECTION
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.