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          OKAY, I'M READY TO GO. OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS IS THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE COMMUNITY 
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AFFAIRS HOUSING, HEALTH AND EDUCATION COMMITTEE. TODAY IS WEDNESDAY, JUNE THE 12TH, 2024. 
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WILL COME TO ORDER. I'M COUNCILWOMAN BARBARA SHANKLIN, WHICH IS THE CHAIR WITH ME IS VICE CHAIR COUNCILMAN STEWART BENSON. COUNCIL MEMBER TAMMY HAWKINS IS NOT HERE YET. OH, YES, SHE IS. THERE SHE IS. COUNCIL MEMBER, COREY ARTHUR, COUNCIL MEMBER. ANDREW OWEN, COUNCIL MEMBER. DAN SAM, COUNCILWOMAN MARILYN PARKER IS ON THE SCREEN AND COUNCIL MEMBER BETTY BREWER. I'M BETSY LOUIS, SO WE HAVE A FULL HOUSE TODAY. EVERYBODY'S HERE. WE HAVE. I MEAN, LET ME SEE, HOW MANY ITEMS DO WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA? FOR HOW MANY? GET FIVE? WE'RE NOT WE WILL NOT BE HEARING, NUMBER TWO TODAY. OKAY OKAY. YES. THIS MEETING IS BEING HELD PURSUANT TO CRS 61.826 AND COUNCIL RULE FIVE, A READ IN FULL. OKAY COUNCIL. I MEAN, MADAM CHAIR, 
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 O-063-24     AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 40 OF THE LOUISVILLE/JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO CODE OF ORDINANCES (“LMCO”) RELATING TO THE LOUISVILLE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND.
5/29/24   Equity, Community Affairs, Housing, Health and Education Committee  Held
5/8/24   Equity, Community Affairs, Housing, Health and Education Committee  Held
4/17/24  Equity, Community Affairs, Housing, Health and Education  Tabled
Action Required By:  October 2024
Sponsors: Jecorey Arthur (I-4), Shameka Parrish-Wright (D-3) ]
CAN YOU READ NUMBER ONE, PLEASE? 0-0632 FOR AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 40 OF THE LOUISVILLE-JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO CODE OF ORDINANCES LMCO RELATING TO THE LOUISVILLE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND. READ IN FULL. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. OKAY DO WE HAVE SOMEONE HERE TO SPEAK ON? NUMBER ONE, I DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK FIRST IF THAT'S OKAY CHAIR. YES. 
          YES, SURE. AND ALSO IF YOU CHECK THE SYSTEM THERE'S AN AMENDMENT BY SUBSTITUTION THERE BASED ON SOME FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT. THIS AMENDMENT IS JUST LIKE THE ORIGINAL, WHERE IT TELLS THE TRUST FUND TO SPEND PUBLIC DOLLARS BASED ON NEED. IT ALSO ADDS SOME DEFINITIONS AND A REPORTING REQUIREMENT. SO I'D LIKE IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU TO VOTE ON THIS. JUST SO WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT THE SAME LEGISLATION BEFORE WE START ASKING THEM QUESTIONS. OKAY. AND I'LL MOVE THAT AMENDMENT AS A MOTION OKAY. SECOND SO WE WANT TO VOTE ON IT FIRST. JUST THE AMENDMENT. JUST THE MINUTE IT HAS THE UPDATED LANGUAGE OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR OF VOTING ON THE AMENDMENT WITH A MOTION. THERE WAS A SECOND FROM ANDREW. SECOND OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE ALREADY VOTED. COOL. WHERE'D YOU VOTE IT? RIGHT DOWN THERE. YEAH OKAY. THAT WE JUST WANT. ALL RIGHT. OKAY DID WE GET THE ONES IN THE Q ONE? COUNCIL COUNCILWOMAN MARILYN PARKER. WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. YOU'RE NOT ON. COULD YOU READ THE AMENDMENT AGAIN, PLEASE? REALLY QUICKLY. 
          YES. SO THE INTENT OF WHAT WE WERE DOING BEFORE IS REWORD IT WHERE WE'RE MAKING SURE THEY'RE SPENDING PUBLIC DOLLARS BASED ON NEED OF THE INCOME LEVELS. WE ALSO ADDED TWO DEFINITIONS. ONE FOR HOUSEHOLD AND ONE FOR AFFORDABILITY GAP. BECAUSE THOSE ARE REFERENCE. AND WE ADDED A REPORTING REQUIREMENT WHICH THEY'RE REALLY ALREADY FILLING NOW. BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS CODIFIED. SO THEY'RE STILL FOLLOWING IT NO MATTER WHO'S IN THE JOB. 
          CHAIR COULD I ASK A QUICK QUESTION. ARE THE AMENDMENTS HERE TO VOTE IN? ARE THEY ALREADY IN THE DOCUMENT THAT WAS SENT TO US? YES. YES, YES. OKAY ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. DID YOU DID YOU VOTE IN THE SYSTEM? IT'S IN SYSTEM. I DON'T SEE IT. I MEAN, HER VOTING DID YOU VOTE MARILYN ON THIS CHAIR? NO, BECAUSE I HAD A QUESTION. SO YOU CAN JUST PUT ME DOWN AS A YES NOW. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'VE GOT TO GET TEN VOTES. COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS. IS THAT A YES? I DON'T 
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KNOW, I COULDN'T HEAR HER. COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS. YES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO, DID YOU NEED TO ASK A QUESTION BEFORE WE CAN? WELL, WE DID. SHE DID A ROLL CALL UP TO THE CHAIR. WHAT SHE WANTS TO DO, SHE WANTS TO GET OVER 4:00. SO WE. YOU DIDN'T SEE IT ON YOUR SCREEN? WHAT ABOUT YOU? WELL, HE CAME UP ON OUR SCREENS, SIR. SO ARE YOU. DO YOU WANT TO VOTE? IT'S ON, IT'S ON. OKAY, NOW IT IS. OKAY. OKAY. YES DID YOU VOTE? I DON'T SEE IT. SO OKAY. WE HAVE EIGHT VOTES. YEAH. YES OH, OKAY. SO SO NOW WE'RE READY TO ASK YOUR QUESTION. WAS YOUR WHAT WAS YOUR QUESTION? THAT'S WHAT I WAS, I WAS I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HEARD, COUNCILMAN ARTHURS, I THINK WHAT HE SAID WAS THAT THE REPORTING REQUIREMENT IS NOT CHANGING ON WHAT THEY'RE DOING NOW. IT'S CODIFYING IT. SO WHOEVER'S SITTING IN THAT CHAIR WILL KNOW WHAT THE REPORTING REQUIREMENT IS. IS THAT WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY? YES. AND WHEN OUR GUESTS COME UP, I'M INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT. THERE'S A PIECE THAT WE DID ADD ABOUT MAKING SURE THEY REPORT. 
          ALSO WITH THE PRIVATE INVESTMENTS AS WELL. AND THEY MIGHT ALREADY BE DOING THAT. I DON'T HAVE THE REPORT PUT UP IN FRONT OF ME, BUT WE ARE ESSENTIALLY JUST CODIFYING IT. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. AND JUST AS OUR GUESTS ARE COMING UP, JUST AS A REMINDER FOR EVERYONE, THE AMENDMENT PASSED JUST AS A REMINDER FOR EVERYONE. THIS ORDINANCE IS TAKING A PRACTICE THAT WE ALREADY DO AND MAKING SURE IT'S LAW, NO MATTER WHO THE MAYOR IS, NO MATTER WHO'S ON METRO COUNCIL, NO MATTER WHO'S AT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND, MAKING SURE WE FUND AFFORDABLE HOUSING BASED ON NEED AND NOTHING ELSE. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIRWOMAN. HI. CHRISTY MCCRAVEY EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE LOUISVILLE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND. AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE REPORTING, YES, WE SEND MONTHLY REPORTS TO METRO COUNCIL. THOSE REPORTS HAVE COLUMNS, THAT IDENTIFY THE, THE PROPERTY, THE NUMBER OF UNITS, THE ADDRESS, TYPE OF PROPERTY THAT IT IS OUR PROJECT, THAT IT IS THE FULL LOAN AMOUNT, WE ALSO PUT IN WHETHER IT WAS A VACANT AND ABANDONED PROPERTY PREVIOUSLY, THE COUNCIL DISTRICT THAT THE ADDRESS IS IN AND HOW MANY UNITS FOR EACH POPULATION. SO IF IT IS A 30, TEN, TEN UNITS FOR 30% AMI THOSE UNITS ARE LISTED 5, YOU KNOW, FIVE FOR THIS. AND THEN ALL OF THAT GOES INTO THE TOTAL. 
          WE ALSO PUT IN THE TOTAL DEVELOPMENT COST. SO ALL OF THAT INFORMATION IS THERE. OKAY. 
          YEAH. CHRISTY I KNOW YOU USED TO SEND OUT A BOOKLET OR SOMETHING. DO YOU STILL SEND THAT OUT? WE DO. WE HAVE AN ANNUAL REPORT THAT WE CAN, PUT TOGETHER, BUT OUR MONTHLY REPORT IS COMBINED WITH LOUISVILLE METRO'S CARES REPORT. SO THAT WAY YOU'RE GETTING ALL OF, LOUISVILLE METRO'S PUBLIC DOLLARS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AT ONE TIME. THEY GO THROUGH AND SCRUB IT SO THAT THERE'S NO DUPLICATION OF PROJECT DOLLARS. OKAY ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YOU CAN GO AHEAD WITH YOUR YOUR REPORT, IS THAT IT? OKAY, IF WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE AMENDMENT THAT WAS SUGGESTED, WE DID SPEAK WITH COUNCILMAN ARTHUR AND MARYLAND PARK, MARYLAND HARRIS. I'M SORRY. MARILYN HARRIS PUT TOGETHER A REALLY GOOD FORMULA THAT LOOKS AT NEED THAT WE WILL USE GOING FORWARD. THIS, FORMULA WILL BE USED FOR US TO DETERMINE HOW MANY AND 30% POPULATION WILL BE, HOW MANY UNITS WILL BE NEEDED, OR HOW MUCH DOLLARS CAN BE SPENT FOR 30% AMI UNITS. HOW MUCH CAN BE SPENT FOR 50% AMI UNITS? VERY DETAILED FORMULA THAT WE CAN DO OR WHOMEVER IS IN THIS SEAT CAN DO IN THE FUTURE. WE DID EXEMPT HOMEOWNERSHIP UNITS, AND THAT IS BECAUSE WE WANT TO STABILIZE HOMEOWNERSHIP IN LMI AREAS, AS WELL AS THE URBAN CORE. SO THOSE UNITS WILL BE EXEMPTED. BUT ALL RENTAL UNITS AND ALL DOLLARS FOR RENTAL UNITS WILL FOLLOW THE FORMULA. 
          OKAY I JUST GOT A TEXT FROM COUNCILMEMBER HAWKINS AND SHE WANTS TO KNOW DO THEY? OOPS. OR DO YOU WORK CLOSELY WITH LDG? DO WE WORK CLOSELY WITH LDG? WE? YEAH THAT'S WHAT YOU GUYS WHEN 
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WE HAVE A PROJECT, I WOULDN'T SAY WE WORK ANY MORE CLOSELY WITH THEM THAN WE DO ANY OTHER DEVELOPER. AND SHE ALSO WANTED TO KNOW IF THEY SUPPORT ALL APARTMENTS. THIS ORDINANCE WOULD REALLY IMPACT ALL APARTMENTS. OKAY, COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS, CAN YOU HEAR? COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS, I GUESS SHE CAN'T HEAR. OKAY SO IF SHE HAS ANOTHER QUESTION, WE'LL SEE. OKAY IS THAT ALL OF YOUR REPORT? THAT IS ALL THAT I HAVE TO SAY FOR THE AMENDMENT. MARILYN, DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING? OKAY, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE FORMULA. OKAY. DO YOU WANT DETAILS ON THE FORMULA? I'M SORRY. WOULD YOU LIKE DETAILS ON THE FORMULA? ANYBODY INTERESTED IN DETAILS? YES, PLEASE. YES. 
          OKAY. OKAY. GO AHEAD. MARILYN HARRIS, DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. I'M SORRY, COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS, DID YOU SAY SOMETHING? YEAH I'M ON HER. 
          I'M SORRY. CHRISTY, CAN YOU, SOLIDIFY TO THE COMMITTEE, YOUR RELATIONSHIP. SO THEY KNOW CLEARLY, THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PERSONAL OR THAT THE BOARD DOESN'T HAVE ANY, TIES TO LDG. 
          CAN YOU JUST, SOLIDIFY THAT FOR THEM? SURE. WE. I SAID ON THE BOARD, BUT I WANT THEM TO HEAR THAT DIRECTLY FROM YOU. RIGHT. IT WANT TO MAKE SURE. RIGHT. THERE ARE NO LDG MEMBERS OR REPRESENTATIVES OR EMPLOYEES, ON OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS AT THIS TIME, OKAY. AND THEN, AS FAR AS, I KNOW, A LOT OF MEMBERS WERE CONCERNED ABOUT NOT INVESTING IN A LOT OF, EVEN THOUGH THAT WE NEEDED HOUSING, I'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT, MORE HOME OWNERSHIP. YES WORKING TO GET, GENERATIONAL WEALTH AND SUSTAINABILITY WITH HOME OWNERSHIP AND, CAN YOU TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, ABOUT THAT? YES, MA'AM, THE TRUST FUND HAS ALWAYS HAD A CLEAR PRIORITIES OF HOMEOWNERSHIP WITHIN THE URBAN CORE AND AS WELL AS IN LMI AREAS LIKE NEWBURGH OR WHAT HAVE YOU. 
          THOSE ARE THE AREAS WHERE WE WOULD FOCUS ON HOMEOWNERSHIP. WE TRY TO LIMIT HOW MUCH RENTAL GOES INTO THOSE AREAS, NOT TO IMPACT THEM ANY FURTHER THAN THEY ALREADY ARE, SO IF YOU WERE TO GO INTO OUR GUIDELINES AND TO ACTUALLY READ THAT SECTION, WE TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT PRIORITY, THOSE ARE PRIORITIES. IF YOU RECALL, IN THE PAST, WE HAD A SPECIFIC FUND CALLED THE ADOPT A BLOCK FUNDING OF PROJECTS, AND THOSE PROJECTS WERE ALL URBAN CORE PROJECTS. WE WANT HOMEOWNERSHIP TO REVITALIZE AND TO STRENGTHEN OUR URBAN CORE AND LMI AREAS. THUS, THAT IS THE REASON WHY WE HAVE THOSE PRIORITIES. COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS, ARE YOU OKAY WITH THE ANSWER? I DON'T KNOW WHAT SHE'S DOING. COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS, ARE YOU OKAY WITH HER ANSWER? ALREADY KNEW THE ANSWER. YOU ALREADY KNEW IT. OKAY, SO I JUST WANTED HER TO SOLIDIFY THAT. 
          THAT THE OTHER MEMBERS THAT, THAT HAS HAD VARIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT THINGS. AND MAYBE I DIDN'T GIVE THEM A GOOD ENOUGH ANSWER, OR, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANTED YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY TO KIND OF HEAR THAT STRAIGHT FROM HER. OKAY ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY MORE QUESTIONS BEFORE COUNCILWOMAN? OKAY. MARILYN HARRIS, DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. COUNCILMAN I'M SORRY, I HAD A QUESTION FIRST. OH, I'M OKAY. IF YOU WERE GOING TO SHARE ANYTHING WITH US. ONE STATEMENT AND THEN A QUESTION. CHAIRWOMAN. SO IF YOU ALL LOOK AT THE ATTACHMENTS, AFFORDABILITY GROUPS FROM THE 2024 HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT ARE ATTACHED, AS WELL AS THE HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT, AFFORDABILITY GAPS. JUST TO GIVE SOME MORE CONTEXT TO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE SAY NEED, MY QUESTION WAS ABOUT IMPLEMENT ATION GOING FORWARD. SO THE METRO COUNCIL, THE MAYOR, THE CURRENT MAYOR AND THE PREVIOUS MAYOR, THE TRUST FUND, THE OFFICE OF HOUSING, WE'VE WORKED TOGETHER TO PRIORITIZE HOUSEHOLD NEEDS THAT ARE THE POOREST OF THE POOR. THIS ORDINANCE IS NOW GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE 
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REFLECT THE SPENDING WITH THE NEED. I'M INTERESTED HOW YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THE NEW DIRECTOR OF THE TRUST FUND, OR THE NEW DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF HOUSING OR THE NEW MAYOR IS GOING TO IMPLEMENT IT IN THE SAME WAY, BECAUSE WE DON'T NECESSARILY SAY FOLLOW THE FORMULA IN THE ORDINANCE. SO WHETHER IT'S BYLAWS, STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES, COULD YOU JUST TALK TO US ABOUT HOW YOU'RE GOING TO ENSURE THE NEXT PERSON IN THAT JOB IS GOING TO IMPLEMENT IT IN A WAY THAT MEETS THE NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE? HI MARILYN HARRIS, I AM THE CURRENT DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, BUT I'M ALSO THE CHAIR OF THE LOUISVILLE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND. WE WILL IMPLEMENT THE FORMULA IN OUR BYLAWS TO STATE THAT FUTURE FUNDS FROM LOUISVILLE METRO GOVERNMENT WILL BE ALLOCATED WITH A PRIORITY TOWARDS TO HOUSEHOLDS AT OR BELOW 30% BASED ON THE NEED AS DEFINED THROUGH THE HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT. SO AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE, WE HAD THE HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT DONE IN 19. WE HAD IT REDONE IN 24. IF WE HAD FORMULATED THIS, FORMULA, IF WE HAD CREATED THIS FORMULA PRIOR TO, NOW WITH THE LAST HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT, WE WOULD HAVE WE WOULD HAVE TARGETED, 57% OF TRUST FUND DOLLARS TO 0 TO 30% FOR RENTAL. SO WE WOULD ONLY AWARD PROJECTS THAT WERE ASSISTING. WE WOULD ONLY AWARD 57 OR WE WOULD AWARD 50, 7% AT A MINIMUM, 57% OF THE FUNDS FOR RENTAL PROJECTS TO HOUSEHOLDS AT OR BELOW 30% OF AREA MEDIAN INCOME. BASED ON THE NEW NUMBERS FROM THE NEW HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT, THAT NUMBER ACTUALLY IS 60. SO BASED ON THE NEED. SO IT'S THE TOTAL GAP FOR 0 TO 30. RENTER HOUSEHOLDS DIVIDE BY THE AFFORDABLE AFFORDABILITY GAP FOR ALL OF JEFFERSON COUNTY, AND THERE'S ONE CAVEAT TO THAT. WE HAVE HOUSEHOLDS ABOVE 200. AND THIS YEAR IN THE 2024 HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT, THERE IS ACTUALLY ABOUT 900 UNITS NEEDED FOR HOUSEHOLDS. AND THAT IS ACTUALLY RENTERS, THERE'S ACTUALLY A NEED FOR ABOUT 900 UNITS AT THAT 200. THE MARKET CAN HANDLE THAT. SO WE ARE NOT TOUCHING THAT. THAT'S NOT PART OF THIS FORMULA. IT IS ONLY HOUSEHOLDS AT OR BELOW 80% THAT WE ARE GEARED TOWARDS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE OUR TRUST FUND DOLLARS GO. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I GUESS I CAN BE TRUTHFUL ABOUT IT. I GUESS IT MAKES SENSE. OKAY, SO I'M SORRY, CHAIR , COUNCILMAN JONES. THANK YOU. 
          SO I THINK, AGAIN, I SOMETIMES I HAVE TO TALK MY WAY THROUGH THIS TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU SAID, SO IN THE FORMULA, LET'S SAY THE DENOMINATOR IS, IS YOU EXCLUDE 200 PLUS FROM THE EQUATION. THAT'S CORRECT. AND ONLY USE THE TOTAL FROM 200 OR BELOW AS YOUR DENOMINATOR. THAT IS CORRECT. AND THE NUMERATOR THEN IS THE UNMET NEED FOR THE AFFORDABILITY GAP. SO IN THIS FORMULA IT'S 30,733 WHICH IS THE UNMET NEED FOR JEFFERSON COUNTY RENTERS DIVIDED BY THE AFFORDABILITY GAP FOR ALL HOUSEHOLDS AT OR BELOW 80, WHICH TURNS OUT TO BE RIGHT AT 50,397. 
          OKAY. AND THAT GIVES US THE, 50, 66, 61. YEAH, IT WAS LIKE 60.9. SO COMMON ROUNDING 61% OF THE FUNDS FROM THIS NEXT ALLOCATION OF TRUST FUND WILL BE GEARED TOWARDS PROJECTS THAT ARE ASSISTING 30% AND BELOW OF AREA MEDIAN INCOME. I WANT TO BE REAL CLEAR. THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE NOT HELPING UNITS THAT ARE 50 OR 80. WHAT IT MEANS IS WE WILL ENSURE AT LEAST 61% OF THE FUNDS WE ALLOCATE ARE FOR UNITS AT OR BELOW 30, SO THAT OTHER 39% COULD ASSIST UNITS UP TO 50 OR UP TO 60, OR UP TO 80% COULD. COULD I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION? YES SO I DON'T WANT TO SOUND LIKE I'M I'M FOR THIS. I THINK THE HARDEST UNITS TO BUILD ARE THE ONES FROM 0 TO 30. SO I'M ABSOLUTELY FOR THIS. I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT I THINK WHAT HAPPENS HERE IS IN ORDER TO SUBSIDIZE A UNIT AT 0 TO 30, IT TAKES A LOT MORE MONEY THAN IT DOES TO SUBSIDIZE A UNIT AT 50 OR 60. SO JUST AS A BODY, WE NEED TO KNOW THAT WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO GET FEWER UNITS OUT OF THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING TO DO A DEEPER SUBSIDY. AND I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT THAT WE'LL WE'LL BE GETTING WE'LL BE BRINGING FEWER UNITS ONLINE, BUT WE'LL BE SUBSIDIZING UNITS THAT ARE HARDER TO BUILD. I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS PRIOR TO COVID, WE WERE DOING SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 15 AND $40,000 PER UNIT. WITH TRUST FUND 
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DOLLARS. WHEN WE GOT ARPA MONEY THROUGH COVID, WE MADE IT A PRIORITY FOR THE 0 TO 30% UNITS, AND WE ARE SUBSIDIZING THOSE AT APPROXIMATELY 200 AND MAYBE $15,000 PER UNIT BECAUSE A DEVELOPER CANNOT SUSTAIN A MORTGAGE PAYMENT WHEN A TENANT ONLY HAS ZERO 30% OF INCOME, 30% OF AMI IS SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 4 OR $500 A MONTH OF INCOME, AND 30% OF THAT $500 IS $150. THAT IS NOT ENOUGH FOR UTILITIES PLUS RENT, AND THAT THEREIN THEREIN LIES THE PROBLEM. THEY CAN'T TAKE A MORTGAGE OUT ON THOSE 0 TO 30% UNITS AND PROVIDE HOUSING BECAUSE THE PEOPLE CAN'T PAY FOR THE HOUSING. SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO SUBSIDIZE THEM AT A FAR GREATER RATE. AND THEN AS A FOLLOW UP TO THAT, IS IT ALSO TRUE? AND I THINK THE ANSWER TO THIS IS YES. IT'S ALSO TRUE THAT THE SUBSIDY FOR A HOME OWNERSHIP UNIT IS ALSO SIGNIFICANT COMPARED TO IS IT FOR 0 TO 30? YES, ABSOLUTELY. SO WOULD BUT IS THAT TRUE JUST GENERALLY IN GENERAL FOR A HOMEOWNERSHIP UNIT THAT THAT THE SUBSIDY PER UNIT TENDS TO BE A LITTLE HIGHER OR NOT? HOW DOES THAT WORK OUT? I THINK IF WE GO ALL THE WAY UP TO 80, THE SUBSIDY IS FAR LESS. THE DIFFERENCE IS AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THIS. I JUST SIGNED OFF ON A HOUSEHOLD THAT WAS 72% OF AMI FOR A DOWN PAYMENT AND CLOSING COST ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, NOT THROUGH TRUST FUND, BUT THROUGH THE DPA PROGRAM IN THE OFFICE OF HOUSING. AND THAT WAS ABOUT $36,000 OF ASSISTANCE. IS WHAT THIS 36 AND SOME CHANGE IS WHAT THIS HOUSEHOLD NEEDED. SO THEY WERE HIGHER INCOME AND THEY NEEDED ABOUT $36,000, THAT IS GOOD FOR A TEN YEAR PERIOD OF AFFORDABILITY. OKAY I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THIS. IF WE ARE PUTTING $230,000 IN A 0 TO 30% UNIT, WE'RE PUTTING 36 IN FOR ONE HOUSEHOLD, FOR ONE UNIT, IF WE ARE PUTTING $230,000 IN A RENTAL UNIT, THAT IS FOR AT LEAST A 20, BUT MOST OF THE TIMES A 30 OR 40 YEAR PERIOD. AND IF THE AVERAGE PERSON STAYS IN A UNIT FIVE YEARS, THAT'S 6 OR 7 FAMILIES THAT WE ARE ASSISTING WITH THAT ASSISTANCE OVER THE LIFE OF THAT LOAN AND THAT. SO IF WE LET'S JUST SAY IT'S FIVE FAMILIES, BECAUSE I'M REALLY BAD AT MATH, 225,000 BY FIVE FAMILIES IS $25,000 A HOUSEHOLD, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY LESS THAN WE ARE PROVIDING IN THE DPA. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? EVERYBODY WITH ME DOES. IT'S COMPLICATED, BUT IT MAKES SENSE. I MEAN, I, I JUST I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE WE'RE RECOGNIZING THE SUBSIDY LEVELS. 
          THE ONLY WAY TO MAKE SOMETHING MORE AFFORDABLE FOR THE PERSON LIVING THERE IS TO BRING IN MORE EQUITY ON THE FRONT END, SUBSIDIZE IT MORE SO IN ORDER TO GO TO A LOWER INCOME PERSON, YOU HAVE TO SUBSIDIZE IT. WE HAVE TO SPEND MORE MONEY, WHICH IS FINE. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE TALK THAT THROUGH. I ALSO WOULD LIKE YOU ALL TO UNDERSTAND THAT MOST OF THE TIME, THESE 0 TO 30% UNITS WILL HAVE SOME TYPE OF VOUCHER WITH THEM, 99% OF THE TIME THEY HAVE A VOUCHER WITH THEM, WHICH MEANS THEY ARE GETTING A SUBSIDY FROM SOME OTHER PLACE TO HELP MAKE THAT DIFFERENCE. BUT IT'S NOT GUARANTEED, BUT MOST OF THE TIME THEY WILL HAVE A VOUCHER THAT WILL HELP WITH THAT. THAT'S THAT, THAT THAT IS ALSO ASSISTANCE THAT COULD GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. SO I MEAN IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S IT JUST COMES FROM A DIFFERENT POT. THAT'S EXACTLY SO. AND TO CLARIFY ON THE HOMEOWNERSHIP SIDE, YOU'RE YOU ARE IN ONE WAY YOU ARE CORRECT BECAUSE WE DO SUBSIDIZE IT MORE ON THE FRONT END. BUT WITH HOMEOWNERSHIP AND ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE HOUSEHOLDS THAT GO UP TO 80% AMI, WE ALWAYS REQUIRE, REPAYMENT OF SOME TYPE. SO WE DO NOT FORGIVE AT THAT LEVEL LIKE WE WOULD AT A 30% HOUSEHOLD. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? I THINK I LEARNED A LOT FROM YOU LISTENING BECAUSE YOU BROKE IT DOWN. SO I LEARNED A LOT MORE. 
          BUT IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE, ANY QUESTIONS, ANY CONCERNS? OH, I SEE THAT. OKAY. COUNCILMAN THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, THIS THIS FOCUS, FOCUSES 100% OF THE TRUST FUND ON THOSE MAKING LESS THAN 50% OF THE POVERTY RATE, CORRECT? YEAH, 100, NOT POVERTY RATE. I'M SORRY. IT IS NOT THE POVERTY RATE. IT IS THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME, WHICH IS A DIFFERENT IT'S A HUD NUMBER VERSUS OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S THE TOTAL 100. YES IS GOING TO GO TO THAT 50. AND HOLD ON. WELL NO NO NO WE GO UP TO 80% AMI FOR SO WHAT HAPPENS IS THIS ORDINANCE WOULD CHANGE IT TO WHERE, AS THE CALCULATION WAS 
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STATED THIS YEAR, AND REALLY FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, BECAUSE WE WON'T HAVE ANOTHER NEEDS ASSESSMENT, 61% OF THE FUNDS WILL GO TOWARD 30% AMI HOUSEHOLDS AND BELOW THE REST CAN GO UP. THE 39% CAN GO UP TO 80. AMI. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN MARILYN PARKER. YES WELL, WHEN I READ THE ORDINANCE, I DON'T READ IT THAT WAY. THE WAY IT READS TO ME IS THAT 100% GOES TOWARDS THE WAY I READ IT WAS 50% GOES GOES TOWARDS 30% OF AMI OR BELOW. AND THEN THE OTHER 50% GOES TO THE 50% AMI. THAT'S THE WAY OUR I READ THE ORDINANCE, SO CAN SOMEONE TELL ME ANYTHING DIFFERENT? COUNCILMAN, COUNCILWOMAN, COUNCILWOMAN, IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE THREE OF THE AMENDMENT BY SUBSTITUTION THAT WE JUST VOTED ON, IT BREAKS DOWN THE DIFFERENT INCOME LEVELS. SO AT A IT SAYS THE TRUST HAS THE DISCRETION TO ALLOCATE AND THEN IT TALKS ABOUT HOUSEHOLD SERVING 80% AND BELOW. AND THEN A ONE THROUGH THREE SPECIFIES 30% AREA MEDIAN INCOME 50% AREA MEDIAN INCOME AS WELL AS % AREA MEDIAN INCOME. AND THEN NUMBER FOUR IS AN EXEMPTION FOR HOMEOWNERSHIP PROGRAMS. SO IT DOES LAY OUT IN THAT AMENDME BY SUBSTITUTION THAT WE ARE FUNDING HOUSEHOLDS AT DIFFERENT INCOME LEVELS. IT'S NO LONGER HALF AND HALF OF 30 AND 50. 
          WE'RE LOOKING AT THOSE INCOME LEVELS USING THE HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT TO COME UP WITH THE ACTUAL NUMBER. AND THEN ONCE WE APPROVE THE FUNDING, THEY WOULD DIVIDE IT BASED ON WHAT THE NEED IS. OKAY. THIS IT IS KIND OF COMPLICATED, AND IT DOES A LOT OF, MOVING PARTS. SO WE ARE WE ARE HELPING FEWER PEOPLE, SO IF SOMEONE, IF SOMEONE SAY THEY'RE AT 30% AMI SO WHAT HAPPENS IN, SAY, 2 OR 3 YEARS WHEN THEY'RE FINANCIAL OR IF THEIR FINANCIAL SITUATION IMPROVES, THEN WHAT HAPPENS? IS THAT EVER ASSESSED OR LOOKED AT, JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT. OR DO PEOPLE JUST THEY GET LOCKED IN AND THEN THEY GET TO STAY THERE, AS LONG AS THEY'RE LIVING IN THAT PARTICULAR UNIT, WE DO REQUIRE ANNUAL, CERTIFICATIONS OF ALL OF OUR TENANTS BY THE DEVELOPERS. THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND MAKE SURE THOSE PERSONS ARE STILL ELIGIBLE TO LIVE IN THOSE PROPERTIES. 
          THAT HAPPENS TODAY, I THINK WE SHOULD ADD THAT WHEN A PROJECT IS IN COMBINATION WITH TAX CREDITS, THERE IS A PROHIBITION FROM EVICTING SOMEONE IF THEIR INCOME INCREASES. AND THIS IT GETS TECHNICAL, BUT BUT IF THEIR INCOME INCREASES ABOVE 80, THEIR RENT IS THEN ADJUSTED TO 30% OF THEIR RENT. SO SO, SO THEY ARE THEN PAYING MORE IN RENT THAN THEY WOULD BE IF THEY WERE JUST LIVING IN A RENT RESTRICTED UNIT . IT'S A IT'S I TEACH A WHOLE CLASS. IT TAKES A WHOLE DAY TO TEACH THIS CLASS. SO WHERE AND WHERE DOES THAT MONEY GO TO. DOES THAT GO TO THE OWNER? THE OWNER OR DOES IT GO? IT'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND. IT'S WELL, THE REPAYMENT TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND IS SET OUT IN THE MORTGAGE DOCUMENTS OR THE GRANT AGREEMENT THAT WE PROVIDE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROJECT, AND THEN THE INCOME, STREAM GENERATED FROM TENANTS PAYMENTS IS CONSIDERED PART OF THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY. THAT'S THEIR INCOME TO PAY THEIR OTHER DEBTS ASSOCIATED. SOMETIMES OUR MORTGAGE IS SET OUT TO BE A CASH FLOW LOAN. SO EVERYTHING, OVER A 1.2 DEBT COVERAGE RATIO WOULD BE SPLIT WITH THE TRUST FUND 5050 OR 7525. ALL OF THAT IS LAID OUT IN THE BEGINNING OF THE PROJECT, WHEN WE DO THE INITIAL UNDERWRITING, AND ADDITIONALLY, MOST FOR PROFIT DEVELOPERS DON'T HAVE STRAIGHT OUT FORGIVENESS. 
          WE WILL HAVE, WHERE IT IS. WE RENEGE ASSOCIATED AT THE MATURITY OF THE LOAN. THEY WOULD HAVE TO REFINANCE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, REGARDLESS OF THE POPULATION THAT THEY SERVE. 
          THAT'S ALSO A THAT'S ALSO A TAX CREDIT LAW. SO THEY CAN'T HAVE A GRANT BECAUSE THEN IT DOESN'T 
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COUNT IN ELIGIBLE BASIS AND THEY GET FEWER TAX CREDITS. SO THEY WANT IT AS A GRANT AS A LOAN THAT HAS TO BE REPAID. OKAY, I'VE GOT 1 OR 2 QUICK QUESTIONS LEFT, SO OF YOUR NEEDS ASSESSMENT, WITH THE NUMBERS THAT YOU GAVE US, CAN YOU GIVE US, LIKE, A PERCENTAGE OR LIKE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE OR FAMILIES THAT ARE ACTUALLY ON YOUR WAITING LIST? RIGHT. OKAY. SO THE TRUST FUND DOESN'T ACTUALLY KEEP A WAITING LIST BECAUSE WE WORK WITH DEVELOPERS. AND SO THOSE DEVELOPERS HAVE THOSE WAITING LISTS WHEN THEY MAKE APPLICATION TO THE TRUST FUND FOR AN AWARD THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT THAT THE UNDERWRITING GOES THROUGH TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE PPLE, THEY HAVE ELIGIBLEENAN THA WOULD QUALIFY. SOMETIMES THEY HAVE AAIT LT, SETIM THE WORK OEC EHT FOR THE ENTIRE CITY OFT LIST LOUISVILLE, OR THEY MIGHT HAVE A WAIT LIST FOR A SISTER PROPERTY. SO THOSE WAIT LISTS MOST OF THE TIME ARE MANAGED BY EITHER THE FOR PROFIT OR NOT FOR PROFIT DEVELOPER WHO IS APPLYING FOR THE FUNDS. THERE'S SOMEBODY WITH YOUR GROUP THAT COLLECTS THAT DATA ON A ROLLING BASIS, LIKE WE COULD SEE LIKE WHO'S ACTUALLY ON, THE WAITING LIST CAN, YOU KNOW, WITH A CONGLOMERATION OF IT LIKE, SAY, EVERY SIX MONTHS. SO WE KIND OF KNOW, LIKE WHO'S NOT JUST WHAT THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT IS, BECAUSE SOME OF THAT TO SOME OF US IS A LITTLE BIT ARBITRARY. BUT IF WE COULD JUST SEE WHAT THE ACTUAL WAITING LIST IS, I THINK THAT'S A TRUER INDICATOR OF ACTUAL NEED. WE DO NOT ACTUALLY REVIEW EVERY SIX MONTHS THE NEEDS, HOWEVER, EVERY APPLICATION, EVERY DEVELOPER MUST SUBMIT A MARKET, NEEDS ASSESSMENT MARKET ANALYSIS WITH THEIR APPLICATION. SO THEREFORE WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW THEY CAME UP WITH, WHY THEY'RE CHOOSING THIS POPULATION FOR THIS PROJECT . OKAY. AND HAS THERE BEEN ANY. SUPPOSITION ABOUT, I MEAN, I KNOW YOU ALL PROBABLY DIFFICULT FOR YOU ALL TO ANSWER, BUT DOING A STUDY OR HAVE YOU EVER DONE, LIKE, A DATA DRIVE AS FAR AS MEASURABLE OUTCOMES OR THE SUCCESS OF YOUR PROGRAM TO DATE IT WITH THE SET OF PARAMETERS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, TO SEE HOW MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE WE'RE ACTUALLY MAKING. SO SO, ANNUALLY, WE REQUIRE FOR ALL, TRUST FUND UNITS TO SUBMIT AN ANNUAL COMPLIANCE REPORT. AND IT TELLS US HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE LIVED IN THOSE UNITS, WHAT THE INCOMES OF THOSE HOUSEHOLDS WERE, WHAT THE COMPOSITION WAS. SO A MOM AND TWO KIDS, OR JUST A SINGLE PERSON OR, YOU KNOW, A WHOLE FAMILY, AND I THINK THAT'S THE DATA THAT WE USE TO SAY WHAT THE SUCCESS OF THE PROGRAM IS AND HOW MANY PEOPLE WE HAVE HOUSED OVER THE LAST YEAR WITH THE FUNDS. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN. COUNCILMAN OWEN, DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER? YOUR NAME WAS STILL IN HERE. I'M SORRY. SO NO MORE QUESTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO WE ARE READY TO VOTE ON THE WHOLE THE WHOLE ORDINANCE. ARE WE READY TO VOTE? SO WE CAN OPEN THE VOTE? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. IS EVERYBODY DID Y'ALL GET IT? OKAY COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS DID HER APOLOGY. SHE'S THE ONLY ONE. COUNCILMAN COUNCILWOMAN MARY PARKER, HOLD ON. COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS. DID YOU VOTE FOR COUNCILWOMAN PARKER? SHE DID. OKAY COUNCILMAN LOUIS, ARE YOU 
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VOTING, DID YOU GET MY VOTE? YEAH WE GOT YOURS.OT YOUR VOTE. COUNCILMAN. SHE SAID YES NOW. SO THE COMPUTERS ARE ALL ON DIFFERENT. SO WE HAD SIX PEOPLE THAT VOTED YES, SIX YES VOTES AND ONE PRESENT. OKAY, SO PASSES. SHALL WE GO TO OLD BUSINESS? SINCE THE AMENDMENT'S ALREADY THERE. SO WE WILL SEND THIS TO OLD BUSINESS. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE WILL NOT BE READING 
          [3.
 R-051-24     A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO ACCEPT $1,008,333 OF FUNDING FROM THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES THROUGH THE HEALTH RESOURCES AND SERVICES ADMINISTRATION TO BE ADMINISTERED BY LOUISVILLE METRO PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELLNESS.
Action Required By:  December 2024
Sponsors: Jecorey Arthur (I-4) ]
NUMBER TWO. NUMBER THREE, IS THERE SOMEONE HERE TO SPEAK ON NUMBER THREE? OH, OKAY. WE ALREADY DID A MOTION. GOOD MORNING. OUR DASH 051-2 FOR A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO ACCEPT $1,008,333 OF FUNDING FROM THE US DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES THROUGH THE HEALTH RESOURCES AND SERVICES ADMINISTRATION, TO BE ADMINISTERED BY LOUISVILLE METRO PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELLNESS. READ IN FULL MOTION. OKAY, COUNCILMAN ARTHUR, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THAT ONE FIRST, OR DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND LET CONNIE. OKAY, CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME? SURE. HELLO, CONNIE. MENDEL. LOUISVILLE METRO PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELLNESS INTERIM CHIEF HEALTH STRATEGIST. SO I'M HERE TODAY TO ASK YOU TO ACCEPT THE FUNDING, THIS IS FEDERAL FUNDING FOR OUR HEALTHY START PROGRAM. IT IS $1,008,333, AND JUST IN CASE YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH HEALTHY START, THIS PROGRAM IS TO HELP REDUCE INFANT MORTALITY AND MATERNAL MORTALITY RATES. 
          UNFORTUNATE. DOESN'T EVEN BEGIN TO DESCRIBE, THE SITUATION THAT WE HAVE, WITH OUR BLACK INFANTS AND BLACK MOTHERS AND JEFFERSON COUNTY WHO ARE DYING AT TWICE THE RATE OF THEIR WHITE COUNTERPARTS. SO THIS FUNDING GOES FOR, CONTROL NURSE AND CASE MANAGEMENT SERVICES, WHICH WE PROVIDE IN PERSON, WE HELP WITH PRENATAL CARE, HEALTH CARE SERVICES, DOOLAS, FOOD ASSISTANCE, EMERGENCY SUPPLIES, TRANSPORT TO CARE, HOUSING, NAVIGATION, FATHERING PROGRAMS. I MEAN, ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN POSSIBLY DO TO IMPROVE, TO REDUCE, PRENATAL OR PREMATURE BIRTHS, TO REDUCE ANY MEDICAL COMPLICATIONS. WE DO SCREENING FOR MENTAL HEALTH STATUS. SO AND WE'VE HAD TREMENDOUS RESULTS WITH THIS PROGRAM. SO THIS IS, JUST US ASKING YOU TO ACCEPT THIS FUNDING. WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, COUNCILWOMAN, COUNCILMAN OWEN, ARE YOU IN THE CLEAR? YOUR NAME STILL THERE? AND COUNCILMAN ARTHUR, ARE YOU STILL HERE? OH, YOU HAVE A QUESTION, COUNCILMAN ARTHUR? I'M SORRY. ARE YOU WORKING WITH THE OFFICE OF WOMEN AT ALL? THEY HAVE A LOT OF EDUCATIONAL EVENTS THAT TOUCH ON SOME OF WHAT YOU JUST MENTIONED. YES, WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE, WE PARTNER WITH THE OFFICE OF WOMEN ON MANY AREAS, BUT, YOU KNOW, ALSO IN THIS AREA. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN, ROE. OKAY, OKAY. THANK YOU. I'VE JUST GOT KIND OF A TECHNICAL QUESTION, AND IT'S JUST THE TITLE OF THIS IS H R S A HEALTHY START. WHY ARE WHAT DOES ALL THAT MEAN? SO THE FUNDING AGENCY IS THE IS HRSA HRSA THE HEALTH RESOURCES AND SERVICES ADMINISTRATION. SO THAT'S THE FEDERAL BODY THAT PROVIDES THE FUNDING OKAY. AND WHAT IS WHY ARE 20 LOOKS LIKE YEAR 20. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN. JUST I'M LOOKING TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT ALL. I'M LOOKING FOR THE. IT IS A IT'S A FIVE YEAR GRANT. I'M NOT SURE ON THE YEAR 20 PORTION, BUT, SO THIS IS THE FIRST OF FIVE YEARS. OKAY, SO THIS IS THE FIRST TIME YOU'RE ONLY GETTING THIS, THEN? NO, WE HAVE TO REAPPLY FOR THE FUNDING EVERY FIVE YEARS. SO NEXT YEAR WE WON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO COME TO COUNCIL. YOU'LL SEE THIS IN YOUR OVERALL BUDGET, THEY WERE LATE IN AWARDING FUNDING, SO WE WEREN'T ABLE TO INCLUDE THIS IN THE GRANTS PORTION OF, OF OUR, OF OUR BUDGET MATERIALS. SO IS THIS THE SECOND TIME YOU'VE HAD THIS AROUND THE FUNDING THEN? OH, NO, WE'VE HAD IT FOR MANY YEARS. AND ACTUALLY THAT'S WHAT I AND I CAN GET AN EXACT DATE. WHEN WE BEGAN, BUT I AT LEAST 20 YEARS. AND PART OF THAT IS WHEN WE TALK 
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ABOUT HOW SUCCESSFUL. SO IF YOU LOOK AT OUR PROGRAM, WHICH IT'S STILL TOO HIGH ON THE INFANT MORTALITY RATES, BUT, OUR PARTICIPANTS IN THE SAME ZIP CODES HAVE, HALF THE MORTALITY RATES AS OTHERS. SO THAT'S ONE OF OUR MEASURES OF SUCCESS. SO IF YOU'VE HAD THIS OVER 20 YEARS, THEN YOU'VE GOT SOME DATA FOR, THE OUTCOMES FOR THESE PEOPLE ARE NOW ADULTS. WELL, WE FOLLOW THEM THROUGH 18 MONTHS. SO YOU'RE ELIGIBLE AS PRENATAL THROUGH 18 MONTHS. OKAY, I CAN SAY THAT, OF OURS, A LOT OF IT'S WITHIN SERVICES. SO OF OUR PARTICIPANTS, 95% HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE, 80% HAVE A USUAL NORMAL SOURCE OF MEDICAL CARE, OVER 99% ARE SCREENED FOR DEPRESSION AND INTERPERSONAL VIOLENCE, 75% HAVE REPORT DUAL PARTNER INVOLVEMENT WITH THE CHILDREN AND OVER 80% REPORT BREASTFEEDING. THAT SOUNDS LIKE GOOD DATA. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          CERTAINLY THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE ? OH, COUNCILMAN, I WANT TO SEE. I COULDN'T TELL BECAUSE YOUR NAME HAS BEEN IN THERE. I'M BACK. I'M BACK IN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN, SO ARE WE, DO WE QUALIFY AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL BECAUSE OF OUR BAD METRICS ? I MEAN, IS IT SO IF WE IMPROVE TO A CERTAIN POINT, WOULD WE WOULD WE GET. I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'M IS THE IS THE MONEY AWARDED BASED ON NEED. AND THEREFORE AT SOME POINT WE WOULD LIKE TO GRADUATE OUT OF THAT NEED BASED AREA. ABSOLUTELY I WOULD LOVE TO NOT NEED THIS FUNDING, THERE ARE ABOUT 150 HEALTHY START PROGRAMS NATIONALLY, AND I WILL SAY THIS YEAR THERE IS ACTUALLY AN ADDITIONAL LOCAL PUBLIC HEALTH, PARTICIPANT IN THAT, THERE IS A NON HEALTH DEPARTMENT PROGRAM THAT IS ALSO RECEIVING FUNDING. SO WE ARE, JUST IT'S JUST JUST FANTASTIC. SO THIS FUNDING AMOUNT IS DOUBLED AND FOR METRO LOUISVILLE AND THAT THEREFORE WE'RE ABLE TO EXPAND INTO ALL AREAS OF THE COUNTY, THIS IS NOT INCOME BASED FOR US. IF YOU LIVE IN, IN OUR, COUNTIES WITH THE I MEAN, I'M SORRY, NOT COUNTIES, ZIP CODES WITH THE WORST OUTCOMES. YOU JUST HAVE TO BE OF CHILDBEARING AGE OR PRENATAL OR HAVE A CHILD UP TO 18 MONTHS. SO, NOT INCOME RELATED. WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO WORK ON MENTAL AND PHYSICAL HEALTH OF BOTH THE INFANT AND THE MOTHER. SO I WOULD LOVE NOT TO QUALIFY FOR THIS FUNDING. THERE'S ANYONE ELSE QUESTIONS? NO. OKAY. SO WE'RE READY TO VOTE OKAY. THIS IS A THIS IS A RESOLUTION. SO WE HAVE ALL IN FAVOR. AYE AYE. WHO KNOWS. SO WE'LL SEND THIS TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. THANK YOU. I SAW COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS UP THERE. OH SHE'S ON THIS SIDE. OH, SHE CLOSED THE CAMERA DOWN. OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS, ARE YOU GOING TO VOTE? ARE YOU OKAY? WELL SHE WAS JUST THERE A SECOND AGO. OKAY WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT 
          [4.
 R-052-24     A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO ACCEPT $20,000 OF FUNDING FROM AN EPA ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE COLLABORATIVE PROBLEM SOLVING COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT TO BE ADMINISTERED BY LOUISVILLE METRO PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELLNESS.
Action Required By:  December 2024
Sponsors: Betsy Ruhe (D-21) ]
ONE. OUR DASH 05224. A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO ACCEPT $20,000 OF FUNDING FROM AN EPA ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE COLLABORATIVE, PROBLEM SOLVING COOPERATION COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT TO BE ADMINISTERED BY LOUISVILLE METRO PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELLNESS. READ IN FULL MOTION. SECOND. OKAY, IT'S ALREADY BEEN MOVED. A SECOND, NUMBER FOUR, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. 
          CONNIE MENDEL, LOUISVILLE METRO PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELLNESS. WE ARE ASKING FOR YOU TO ACCEPT THIS $20,000 GRANT, THE ORIGINATOR OF THE FUNDS IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY THROUGH THE PARK ALLIANCE OF LOUISVILLE WILL BE USING THESE FUNDS TO CONDUCT A HEALTH IMPACT ASSESSMENT FOR THE NEW ALBERTA JONES PARK. SO WE'LL BE IDENTIFYING SOME STRATEGIES AND WORK WITH THE PARK DESIGN AND PROGRAMING. TO POSITIVELY IMPACT THE WELL-BEING AND HEALTH OF RESIDENTS. SO, WE WANT TO OPTIMIZE POSITIVE OUTCOMES AND MINIMIZE ANY NEGATIVE AND SO THESE WILL BE NEIGHBORHOODS SURROUNDING THE PARK IS WHO WILL MOSTLY BE IMPACTED. SO THOSE THAT WORK PLAY, LIVE IN THESE AREAS, INCLUDING PARKLAND, CALIFORNIA AND RUSSELL. OKAY, COUNCILMAN OWEN, ARE YOU IN THE QUEUE? YOU'RE NOT YOUR NAME IS. YEAH. I'M NOT IN THE QUEUE, BUT 
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THANK YOU. OKAY. COUNCILMAN ARTHUR, ARE YOU IN THE QUEUE? THANK YOU. ALBERTA JONES PARK IS IN OUR DISTRICT, SO I'D LIKE TO CO-SPONSOR, SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? I'D LIKE TO, ALSO CO-SPONSOR. THANK YOU. DEAR GERM'S PARK HEARING NO ONE ELSE. 
          THIS IS A RESOLUTION. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE NO ONE OPPOSES. SO WE WILL GO TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. 
          [5.
 R-056-24     A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO ACCEPT $631,597 OF FUNDING FROM THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES THROUGH THE SENIOR MEDICARE PATROLS GRANT PROGRAM TO BE ADMINISTERED BY LOUISVILLE METRO PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELLNESS.
Action Required By:  December 2024
Sponsors: Andrew Owen (D-9) ]
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NUMBER FIVE, PLEASE. OUR DASH 0562 FOR A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO ACCEPT $631,597 OF FUNDING FROM THE US DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES THROUGH THE SENIOR MEDICARE PATROLS GRANT PROGRAM, TO BE ADMINISTERED BY LOUISVILLE METRO PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELLNESS. READ IN FULL MOTION. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO I MADE A MOTION AND A SECOND, CONNIE, YOU HAD THE FLOOR. THANK YOU. SO THIS IS FUNDING FROM THE US DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, AND IT IS IN THE AMOUNT OF $631,597. AND FOR OUR SENIOR MEDICARE PATROL PROGRAM. 
          SO THIS IS, THIS FUNDING IS AWARDED TO US TO WORK THROUGHOUT THE STATE TO TRY TO IDENTIFY AND ELIMINATE MEDICARE FRAUD SO OUR BENEFICIARIES AND THEIR FAMILIES OR CAREGIVERS ARE PROVIDED EDUCATION, OUTREACH, COUNSELING, AND THEY'RE ABLE TO HOPEFULLY PREVENT FRAUD. BUT ALSO IF, WHERE WE HELP THEM WITH DETECTION AND REPORT. SO AGAIN, WE COLLABORATE WITH GREEN RIVER AREA DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, MOREHEAD STATE UNIVERSITY IN KENTUCKY, WEST KENTUCKY ALLIED SERVICES. SO IT IS A PROGRAM THAT BENEFITS THE ENTIRE STATE. FUNDED TO HELP PREVENT MEDICARE FRAUD. THANK YOU. AND I KNOW COUNCILMAN OWEN IS NOT IN THE QUEUE, RIGHT. HIS NAME IS JUST STUCK THERE. AND COUNCILMAN ARTHUR, YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY SO THERE'S NO. 
          WELL, THOSE TWO NAMES HAVE BEEN STUCK IN HERE FOR A WHILE, SO HE'S GOING TO CO-SPONSOR THAT ALSO. OKAY. ARE WE READY TO VOTE ON THIS RESOLUTION. SO WE'LL BE DOING A VOTE A VOICE VOTE, ALL IN FAVOR. AYE AYE. YOU WANT TO POSE SO WE WILL BE SENDING THIS TO CONSENT CALENDAR. THANK YOU. 
          WITH THAT, WE HAVE NO OTHER BUSINESS
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.