Jun 12, 2024 Public Safety Committee

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METRO TV.

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[Call to Order]

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[Roll Call]

CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE READ THE VIRTUAL MEETING LANGUAGE, PLEASE? THIS MEETING IS BEING HELD PURSUANT TO KRS 61.826 AND COUNCIL RULE FIVE, A READ IN FULL. THANK YOU, MR. CLERK.

TODAY WE HAVE FOUR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THAT INCLUDES THREE PIECES OF LEGISLATION AND ONE SPECIAL DISCUSSION ITEM. PLEASE NOTE THAT ITEM 4R025-24 WILL BE HELD AT THE REQUEST OF THE SPONSOR UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. CLERK. PLEASE READ ITEM TWO INTO THE RECORD, PLEASE. YOU WANT TO.

MRS. CHAIR, HAVE WE BEEN ACKNOWLEDGED ONLINE? I'M SORRY. THAT SHOULD BE. WE DIDN'T KNOW HE WAS ONLINE MYSELF, COUNCILMAN MULVIHILL AND COUNCILWOMAN SHANKLIN AND COUNCILMAN BENSON STEWART ARE ONLINE, AS WELL AS SCOTT REED. OKAY, WELL, WE'RE NOT SEEING ANYONE, SO HOLD ON JUST ONE SECOND. THANK YOU. LOOKS LIKE WE'RE. SO, DO WE NOT SEE? OKAY SO HOLD ON, GUYS, BECAUSE WE'RE APPARENTLY WE HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES, WE DON'T SEE ANYONE ONLINE. ALL RIGHT, LET ME STOP YOU. OH, GOD. SPEAK TO AN ASTERISK. COUNCILWOMAN PEREZ, ARE YOU STILL THERE? I ATTEND THE MEETING, BUT I DIDN'T END IT FOR ALL I MEAN. OH, OKAY. SO THERE WE GO. THERE YOU GO. STARTED OVER. ALL RIGHT, THERE WE GO. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM NOW. HEY HEY. WE'RE JOINED BY, COMMITTEE MEMBER DOCTOR BARBARA SHANKLIN, COMMITTEE MEMBER, SHAMIKA PARISH. RIGHT. COMMITTEE MEMBER BENSON STEWART, COMMITTEE MEMBER. PAT MULVIHILL, AND COMMITTEE MEMBER SCOTT REED. DO WE HAVE A QUORUM NOW? ALL RIGHT. SO DO WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND, CLERK, DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND READ THE VIRTUAL MEETING LANGUAGE? OKAY. THIS MEETING IS BEING HELD PURSUANT TO CRA 61.826 AND COUNCIL RULE FIVE, A READ IN FULL. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. CLERK AGAIN. TODAY WE HAVE FOUR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THAT INCLUDES THREE PIECES OF LEGISLATION AND ONE SPECIAL DISCUSSION ITEM. PLEASE NOTE THAT ITEM NUMBER 4R-0224, WILL BE HELD AT THE REQUEST OF THE SPONSOR UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND DO THE SPECIAL

[1. ID 24-0364     LOUISVILLE METRO POLICE DEPARTMENT MAJOR CRIMES UNIT OVERVIEW – Major Arnold Rivera, Louisville Metro Police Department]

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I, I WAS TOLD TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW ON ON WHERE WE ARE WITH RESPECT TO OUR HOMICIDE NUMBERS. OKAY. I'M WILLING TO TAKE SOME QUESTIONS IF. OKAY. SURE. YOU HAVE ANYTHING? I CANNOT SPEAK TO SPECIFIC CASES, BECAUSE OF THAT. YEAH. YEAH, WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE, SO CAN YOU, SO YOU OVERSEE THE, DETECTIVES? CORRECT YES. OKAY. SO CAN YOU TELL ME THE TIMELINE ON, THE TIMELINE THAT, THAT THAT GIVE A, PARENT OR OR, SOMEONE THAT HAS BEEN A VICTIM OF, OF ANY TYPE OF HOMICIDE, A TIMELINE TO REACH BACK OUT OR ARE THERE ANYTHING IN PLACE, ANYTHING STRUCTURALLY IN PLACE? SURE, AS YOU KNOW, WHEN AN INCIDENT OCCURS, THE MAIN FOCUS THEN IS OBVIOUSLY PROCESSING THE CRIME SCENE GATHERING AS MUCH EVIDENCE, INTERVIEWING WITNESSES. THAT INCLUDES SOMETIMES FAMILY MEMBERS AS WELL, WE ALSO HAVE THE VICTIM SERVICES UNIT THAT IS EMBEDDED WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO HELP, BRIDGE THAT GAP BETWEEN INVESTIGATORS AND THE DEPARTMENT TO KEEP THEM ABREAST OF ANY INFORMATION. AS FAR AS A TIMELINE, EVERY CASE IS DIFFERENT. CASES CAN VARY IN COMPLEXITIES AND THE NUMBERS, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, LIKE I JUST LEFT MY OFFICE A FEW MINUTES AGO, THERE ARE TWO VICTIMS ADVOCATES AT THE HOMICIDE UNIT EVERY SINGLE DAY HELPING TO KEEP CONTACT WITH WITH THE FAMILIES OF LOVED ONES. OKAY. SO I KNOW IT'S I KNOW IT'S THE HOMICIDE RATE, IS DIFFERENT IN EVERYONE'S DISTRICT, BUT I KNOW THAT I'VE HAD SOME CONCERNS WITH, WITH MY DISTRICT AS FAR AS , YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE, COMMUNITY JUST NOT GETTING CALLS BACK, YOU KNOW, NO UPDATES, EVEN IF IT'S NOTHING. SO ARE THOSE ADVOCATES. I JUST WANT TO, ASSURE THAT FOULS ARE NOT BEING JUST SET ON DETECTIVES DESK, AND THEY JUST. THEY'RE COLLECTING DUST, I KNOW YOU GUYS SEND OUT LETTERS, ADVISING WHO THE DETECTIVE IS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, BUT IT'S THE FOLLOW UP FOR ME, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, THERE ARE BEGINNING TO BE SO MANY HOMICIDES. ADDS, THAT IS KIND OF MORE HOMICIDES THAN IT IS, DETECTIVES TO BE ABLE TO KEEP IT UP. SO WHAT IS IT THAT WE CAN DO, HOW CAN WE BE A VESSEL TO, CONTRIBUTE TO WHATEVER THAT GAP IS? BECAUSE IT'S A GAP, I HAVE SEVERAL, COMMUNITY MEMBERS, THAT ARE LIKE, WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING.

AND AGAIN, IS THERE ANY TYPE OF PROCESS IN PLACE THAT WANTED DETECTIVE LEAVES? YOU KNOW, IF HE RETIRES OR ANYTHING AND MOVES ON? NOBODY NOTIFIES THE PARENTS. NOBODY NOTIFIES ANYBODY. THE ONLY WAY THAT THEY KNOW IS, IS IF THE, YOU KNOW, IF, THAT VICTIM'S PARENTS OR, OR, FAMILY MEMBER IS PICKING UP THE PHONE CALLING, SAYING, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH MY CHILD'S CASE, OR, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE THAT, THAT BRIDGE NEEDS TO BE GAPPED, EVEN I KNOW THAT, AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS DO, PHENOMENAL. BUT I REALLY, TRULY BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A GAP. AND I JUST WANT TO BE A VESSEL TO HELP. IF IT'S THAT YOU NEED MORE PEOPLE IN PLACE. IF IT'S THAT, BECAUSE THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT SUFFERS FROM THIS GAP IS THOSE FAMILIES. NOT ME. NOT YOU, I JUST THINK THAT, YOU

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SO IT LETS ME KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE, DEFINITELY, IT'S SOMETHING BROKEN, RIGHT THERE, AND I DEFINITELY WANT TO BE, ADVOCATE FOR WHERE IT'S WORTH SOMETHING MISSING JUST TO GIVE THOSE, EVEN IF IT'S PUTTING SOMEBODY IN PLACE TO GET THOSE OLD CASES, YOU KNOW, I HAVE ONE YOUNG LADY, HER SON HAS BEEN DEAD FOR, OVER. I WANT TO SAY MAYBE EVEN 7 TO 10 YEARS. AND SHE HAD TO CALL TO GET AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST TO EVEN GET ANYONE TO CALL HER. SHE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT.

RIGHT. IT'S UNACCEPTABLE. SO IF YOU CAN TELL ME IF, IF IT'S SOMETHING YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE'RE WORKING ON THE BUDGET RIGHT NOW. IF THERE'S ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO, TO BE AN ADVOCATE, JUST JUST FOR THAT TO HELP YOU, YOU KNOW, LIKE I TOLD THE CHIEF, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO HELP ME. HELP YOU. SURE. WELL, AND THE CHIEF SET OUT HER REQUIREMENTS AND REQUESTS FOR THAT BUDGET. AND I BELIEVE IT IS IT IS GOING TO GO A LONG WAY IN HELPING THIS DEPARTMENT TO ACHIEVE THE AIMS OF THE MAYOR AND THE CHIEF, AND THAT IS TO TRY TO REDUCE VIOLENT CRIME, RIGHT, TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND I'VE SAID THIS REPEATEDLY WHEN, I'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, INTERVIEWED BY THE MEDIA, WE ALL HAVE A ROLE TO PLAY HERE. THIS IS OUR COMMUNITY, AND IT IS NOT LOST ON ME OR THE WOMEN AND MEN THAT I CARE FOR THAT WORK HARD EVERY SINGLE DAY. THAT BEHIND THAT INCIDENT, THERE IS A FAMILY WHO IS REMINDED EVERY SINGLE DAY WHEN THEY SIT AT A DINNER TABLE AND THERE'S AN EMPTY CHAIR AT EVERY HOLIDAY, THERE'S AN EMPTY CHAIR. GRADUATION. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE THERE. THAT IS NOT LOST ON US, WE WORK HARD TO TRY TO BRING JUSTICE AND HOLD THOSE TO ACCOUNT. WHO WOULD TAKE AWAY SOMEONE'S LOVED ONE WITHOUT ANY EXCUSE, AND WE DON'T FORGET, THERE IS NO STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS. HOWEVER, WE ARE RIGHT, CONSTRAINED BY THE AVAILABILITY OF EVIDENCE, THE AVAILABILITY OF EYEWITNESS TESTIMONY. AND THAT'S A BURDEN. I WAS AN INVESTIGATOR FOR A LONG TIME IN MY CAREER, AND THE ONES THAT STICK WITH YOU ARE THE ONES YOU JUST COULDN'T RESOLVE. WE CARRY THAT, TOO, CAN WE DO BETTER? WE CAN ALL DO BETTER. I WILL SAY, THAT WHEN WE RECEIVE MESSAGES, WHEN WE GET CALLS, WE DO OUR LEVEL BEST TO ENSURE HERE THAT SOMEONE IS CONTACTING THE FAMILY MEMBER. I CAN TELL YOU THAT OFTENTIMES THERE ARE FOLKS WHO LOVE THAT PERSON, BUT MAY NOT BE AN IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER. IT MAY NOT BE A MOTHER OR, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE THAT WE FEEL COMFORTABLE DIVULGING INFORMATION FOR. SO KIND OF GOES BACK INTO THAT WE ALL HAVE A ROLE TO PLAY HERE, AND THE VICTIMS ADVOCATES DO A LOT OF WORK, A LOT OF REALLY GOOD WORK, THEY MAKE THEMSELVES AVAILABLE TO THE FAMILY MEMBERS OF, OF THE VICTIMS OF VIOLENT CRIME, AND THEY'RE DOING A REALLY, REALLY GOOD JOB OF THAT, TO TRY TO BRIDGE THAT GAP, UNDERSTANDING THAT THINGS CHANGE EVERY SINGLE DAY, BUT THERE'S THOSE THINGS THE CASE FILES AREN'T GATHERING DUST, YOU KNOW, THOSE THOSE ARE THERE, ASSIGNED CASES. AND AS INFORMATION COMES IN, THEY DILIGENTLY WORK THOSE TO TRY TO BRING THOSE TO ACCOUNT. SO IF, IF THEY'RE NOT COLLECTING DUST, THEN, WELL, THEN A, OFFICER RETIRES, WHY COME SOMEONE AIN'T PICKING THAT FOUL UP SAYING, HEY, I'M THE NEW DETECTIVE ON THIS CASE. THERE'S NO STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS TO THAT, RIGHT? GIVEN THE FAMILY THE NEW INFORMATION TO WHO HAS THEIR CASE. NOW, I'VE HEARD THAT MULTIPLE TIMES. OKAY. SO WHAT?

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AGAIN WHEN YOU HEAR ME OUT SPEAKING TO THE PUBLIC OR IN THE MEDIA, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE ALL HAVE A ROLE TO PLAY HERE, SOMEBODY SOMEWHERE KNOWS SOMETHING. IT MAY BE A LITTLE PIECE OF A PUZZLE. AND THAT SILENCE IS CONDONING VIOLENCE, THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU DON'T LOVE THAT PERSON IF YOU KNOW SOMETHING, BUT YOU CAN'T GET BEHIND WHAT YOU WHAT YOU KNOW OR WHAT THEY DID, WHICH IS WHY WE, AS A DEPARTMENT, WE WELCOME PARTNERSHIPS. WE WORK HARD WITH OUR, OUR, OUR GOVERNMENT PARTNERS, OUR PRIVATE PARTNERS, THE COMMUNITIES WE'RE ENGAGING, TRYING TO BUILD THAT LEVEL OF TRUST THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH EACH OTHER, AND TRY TO SHOW THEM THAT WE ARE, THROUGH OUR ACTIONS, WORKING HARD TO, TO BRING THEIR BRING JUSTICE RIGHT. AND, I TRULY BELIEVE THAT. AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TRANSPARENCY, BUT WHAT I'M NOT HEARING IS, IS YOU I DON'T THINK THAT YOU'VE GIVEN ME, A CLEAR ANSWER ON IF, IF, IF, IF YOU HAVE CASES AND NOT JUST A 17 YEAR OLD CASE, AND CASES, A DETECTIVE IS NO LONGER ON A CASE ANYMORE, EVEN IF IT'S FOUR YEARS OR WE, DEPENDING ON THE FAMILIES OF THE VICTIMS, TO PICK THE PHONE UP AND CALL TO MAKE YOU GUYS AWARE OR OR IS OR IS OUR DEPARTMENT BEING PROACTIVE AND SAYING, HEY, THIS, THIS CASE IS THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THE DETECTIVE HAS RETIRED THIS PARTICULAR CASE HERE. CAN WE JUST FOLLOW UP AND LET THEM KNOW THAT THERE'S A NEW DETECTIVE ON THEIR CASE? IT'S LIKE THEY'RE HAVING TO BE PROACTIVE THEMSELVES. SURE. SO THEY HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL. OKAY, LET ME CALL BECAUSE I AIN'T HEARD NOTHING IN A WHILE. SO IS THERE ANY UNIT THAT IS DOING THAT OR IS IT SO MANY? IF THERE IS JUST SO MANY THAT YOU CAN'T KEEP UP? I'M A RESPECT THAT BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE DYING LIKE FLIES OUT HERE AND IF THAT'S WHAT IT IS, THAT'S WHAT IT IS. AND THEN WE CAN WORK ON A SYSTEM LATER. YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING TO FEEL THAT. BUT, BUT, BUT THOSE ARE SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT I'M GETTING IS LIKE, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT THERE'S A NEW DETECTIVE ON OUR CASE. YOU KNOW, WE HAD TO CALL OR WE HAD TO FILE AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST. YOU KNOW, I JUST, YOU KNOW, I, I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO GIVE THEM, YOU KNOW, NEW INFORMATION AS YOU GET IT. I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT IF THERE IS, ANY PROCESS IN PLACE AND, AND MAYBE NO ONE HAS REALLY BROUGHT THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION JUST AS FAR AS EVEN IF YOU HAVE NOT SOLVED IT, YOU KNOW, JUST, GOING THROUGH CASE FILES THAT YOU HAVEN'T WENT THROUGH IN A LONG TIME TO SAY, HEY, WE AIN'T FORGOT ABOUT YOU, YOU KNOW, I THANK THE, BUILDING THE RELATIONSHIPS IS GREAT. I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN DOING A PHENOMENAL JOB WITH DOING THAT, BUT JUST, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOMEONE, YOU KNOW, PICKING UP THE PHONE THAT'S ALREADY IN THE OFFICE SAYING, HEY, WE FORGOT ABOUT YOU. YOU KNOW, YOUR CASE HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO A NEW DETECTIVE. THIS IS THE DETECTIVE THAT GOES A LONG WAY. YEAH, YOU KNOW, IT. IT, YOU KNOW, MAKES PEOPLE THINK THAT, AND THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT I'M HEARING. SURE. SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST. AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER, THAT'S OKAY. YOU KNOW, IT'S OKAY. I JUST WANT YOU TO BE AWARE, BECAUSE SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, I KNOW RIGHT NOW, WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T ALWAYS LOOK AT THINGS

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RIGHT AND I JUST WOULDN'T BE WHO I WAS IF I DIDN'T SPEAK FOR THE PEOPLE WHO PUT ME HERE. I APPRECIATE THAT, ALL RIGHT? THAT THAT MEANS A LOT. IT REALLY DOES. AND YOU KNOW, KEEP DOING THAT. THANK YOU. AND THAT TO SAY THAT OUT IN THE COMMUNITY. RIGHT. BECAUSE I'LL KEEP DOING THE SAME THING. AND I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT TO MY ATTENTION. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN BRIDGE THAT FOR YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANKS I APPRECIATE THAT. I'M GOING TO PASS THE, PASS IT TO MY VICE CHAIR, DAN THAMES. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, SIR, 75 HOMICIDES THIS YEAR. YES SIR. HOW MANY HAVE BEEN SOLVED? I AM LOOKING AT ABOUT 35. SO WHAT IS THAT, 20? LET ME GET THE CLOSE COUNT HERE FOR YOU. 26. CLOSE 35. YOU SAID YES. I THINK I BELIEVE IT. IT WAS 35. LET ME BRING UP THAT. 34.21. OKAY. THAT'S AS OF MONDAY. THAT MIGHT BE A WEIRD QUESTION, BUT HOW MANY SUSPECT ARE ARE THE REST OF YOU GOT? I'D HAVE TO DRILL DOWN INTO INDIVIDUAL, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY THE PERCENTAGE OR NUMBER OF, OF THESE, THE ONES COMMITTING THESE CRIMES ARE JUVENILE. OUR SUSPECT AGES. THE LARGEST BAND ARE GOING TO BE FROM 18 TO 24, 25 TO 34. AND 35 TO 44. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 27, 31. AND 24% IN THAT BAND. THAT'S THE MAJORITY. SO JUVENILES, JUST SUSPECT AGES. IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT TO SUSPECT OR, SO FAR THIS YEAR, TWO. TWO? YES I'M ENCOURAGED BY THAT. I THOUGHT IT'D BE A LOT MORE, THANK YOU, MR. COUNCILWOMAN BARBARA SHANKLIN. THANKS, TAMMY. YOU SAID IT. WELL, TAMMY, I MEAN, COUNCILWOMAN, I'M SORRY IF THEY COULDN'T DO ANYTHING BUT PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL THAT THE VICTIM'S MOTHER OR FAMILY MEMBER THAT WOULD MEAN A LOT TO THE PEOPLE. I HEAR THE SAME THING THAT YOU CAN'T GET NO CALL BACK. IT'S MONTHS AND MONTHS, AND THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE. I MEAN, IF THEY NEED POLICE OFFICER, HIRE SOMEBODY FOR THAT POSITION. IT'S A POSITION THAT NEEDS TO BE THERE. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. BUT I THINK YOU SAID IT. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MY ATTENTION. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN, DOCTOR BARBARA SHANKLIN, I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE. WAIT A MINUTE, KATIE. COUNCILMEMBER WRIGHT, THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT, THERE'S A LOT OF CHALLENGES. I WAS WONDERING, HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT ANY WAYS THAT WE, AS COUNCIL CAN BE MORE SUPPORTIVE? I KNOW THE BUDGETARY PART, BUT ARE THERE SOME WAYS THAT WE CAN BE MORE SUPPORTIVE AND IS THERE A WAY THAT YOU'RE, INFORMING THE COMMUNITY ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING SO THAT WE CAN HELP GET MORE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT? BECAUSE THE REALITY IS, EVEN IF WE HAVE ALL THE POLICE OFFICERS AND ALL THE SURVEILLANCE, THEY'RE STILL NEVER GOING TO BE ENOUGH TO COVER EVERYTHING AT EVERY TIME.

BUT PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE PRIORITIES ON THE CALLS, WHAT HAPPENS, WHAT YOU KNOW, WHAT WHAT THESE THINGS ARE. AND I THINK COMMUNICATING THAT TO THE COMMUNITY COULD HELP A GREAT DEAL, AS MANY ARE TRYING TO FORM THEIR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD WATCHES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I THINK MORE FOLKS NEED TOOLS ON HOW THEY CAN GIVE THEIR COMMUNITY THE PROTECTION THAT THEY NEED.

ALTHOUGH I'M ONE THAT DON'T LIKE ALL THE EXTRA SURVEILLANCE, I UNDERSTAND THAT A PART OF POLICING INCLUDES THAT. SO JUST JUST WANT TO SEE WHAT WHAT WHAT WE CAN DO AS COUNCIL. AND THEN OUR ARE YOU MAKING A PLAN TO MARKET AND TALK TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND HOW THEY CAN BE MORE HELPFUL? THIS IS BEYOND JUST SAYING CALL 574 LMPD. THESE ARE ACTUAL LIKE TANGIBLE THINGS THAT THEY CAN DO. WELL THANK YOU, AS A AS A AS A LEGISLATIVE BODY OBVIOUSLY SUPPORTING THE CHIEF, YOU KNOW, THE BUDGET, THAT SHE PUT FORTH WITH THE MAYOR THAT THIS YEAR THAT'S GOING TO GO A LONG WAY WITH RESPECT TO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, EACH DIVISION COMMANDER, WE HAVE EIGHT PATROL DIVISION COMMANDERS. THEY HAVE MONTHLY INITIATIVES, THEY HAVE

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IT IS. HEY. WE'RE HERE. WE'RE PUTTING IN THE WORK, WE'RE ALSO HERE, JUST TO SAY HI. COME ON BY . HAVE A CUP OF COFFEE. RIGHT. COME MEET US, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO BE STRANGERS, SO WE'RE PUTTING IN THAT WORK. WE'RE CONTINUE TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THAT THAT IS, THE WAY WE SHOULD INTERFACE AND INTERACT WITH OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS, OUR NEIGHBORS, OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

RIGHT SO THOSE THINGS RIGHT, GOING FORWARD, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE'RE DOING IT, YOU KNOW, AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE ARE FOCUSING ON VIOLENT CRIME, THOSE DRIVERS OF CRIME THAT ARE HARMING THOSE VERY COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GAGE AND MEET WITH. SO SO, IT'S A MULTI-PRONGED APPROACH, BUT IT'S ALSO ONE THAT WE'RE NOT ALONE IN THIS. WE'RE ALL IN THIS SPACE TOGETHER, AND I THINK MEETING OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHERE THEY ARE, GOES A LONG WAY INTO SAYING, HEY, WE ARE PART OF THIS COMMUNITY, WE'RE DOING THIS TOGETHER, AND WE NEED YOUR HELP.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I WANT TO FOCUS ON THE PERCENTAGE OF THOSE WHO ARE BENT ON HURTING PEOPLE.

I WANT TO FOCUS ON THE ON THE PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE WHO ARE ARE BENT ON DESTRUCTION AND THE ONES THAT ARE, ARE STICKING PEOPLE UP WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MAJOR CRIMES. IS THAT JUST HOMICIDE? NOHAT? TELL ME WHAT MAJOR CRIMES ARE HOMICIDE. ROBBERY, SPECIAL VICTIMS UNIT SEX CRIMES. CRIMES AGAINST CHILDREN, CRIMES. YOU KNOW, SEX. YOU KNOW, SEX CRIMES, WITHIN THAT DIVISION, WE ALSO HAVE, THE VICTIM SERVICES UNIT. WE ALSO HAVE THE FORENSIC UNIT, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE CRIME SCENE TECHNICIANS, LATENT FINGERPRINT TECHNICIANS, VIDEO FORENSICS, A LOT OF CRIMES. YES.

SO. AND I WANT TO ALSO FOCUS ON JUVENILE CRIME. OKAY I'VE BEEN A FOOTBALL COACH AND I'VE HAD SOME OF SOME, SOME TOUGH KIDS. AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT IT TAKES TO HOW THE DISCIPLINE AND HOW DISCIPLINE BRINGS SAFETY TO SOME OF THESE KIDS. BUT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THESE JUVENILES, WHAT IS YOUR POLICY ON OBSCURING IDENTITIES OF A JUVENILE WHO'S COMMITTING A VIOLENT CRIME? AND I'D HAVE TO LOOK THAT UP, BUT IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT LEGALLY. RIGHT, BECAUSE THE JUVENILE COURT PROCESS IS ONE THAT IS NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC BECAUSE THEY ARE JUVENILES, AND THAT IS A LEGISLATIVE PRIORITY. AND FRANKFURT, AND FROM THE ONSET WHEN I, WHEN I WAS HERE OR GOT HERE TO BE, YOU KNOW, TO BEGIN SPEAKING WITH YOU ALL, I WAS HERE TO GIVE YOU ALL AN OVERVIEW OF THE MAJOR CRIMES DIVISION, OKAY. AND, YOU KNOW, IT JUST WE HAVE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS WHEN IT COMES TO THAT. SO IF, IF A JUVENILE IS DETAINED, I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHERE, LIKE, WE ARE OBSCURING THAT IDENTITY. WE HAVE A LEGAL REQUIREMENT. LET ME ASK IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY. LET ME. WELL, LET LET ME LET ME FINISH MY TRAIN HERE. AND YOU CAN'T.

YES. BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO THIS AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE YOU GUYS BACK ABOUT THIS.

AND, BUT. AND I'VE TALKED TO A LOT OF OFFICERS MASKS. WHAT'S THE POLICY NOW? WHAT'S THE POLICY WITH THESE, THESE PEOPLE. BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMMITTING THESE VIOLENT MAJOR CRIMES ARE WEARING MASKS AND COVID'S OVER. AND I WANT TO KNOW I KNOW WE HAVE AN

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AGAIN I WAS HERE TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE MAJOR CRIMES DIVISION. I WAS NOT PREPARED TO SPEAK TO OR ABOUT POLICY, AT THIS TIME. AND WE'LL BRING THAT BACK. AND THAT'S THAT'S GOOD THEN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY OKAY. SO DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD TO THE HOMICIDE OR. AND WE'LL JUST BRING YOU BACK FOR THE POLICY. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT FROM THE METRO COUNCIL, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS 21 YEARS, AND I THINK THIS IS AS GOOD A RELATIONSHIP AS I'VE SEEN IN MY CAREER, AND I SINCERELY APPRECIATE IT. I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT AND THE WILLINGNESS OF SPECIFICALLY THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE TO KIND OF STEP UP AND SAY, HEY, WHAT CAN WE DO FOR, YOU KNOW, TO HELP YOU ALL? CAN I SINCERELY APPREATE AT? CAN I ASK YO THIS ONE LAST QUESTIO YOU ID TT YOVE BEETHER DIFFERENCEN YOUR TIME LENGTH OF BEING THERE, CAN YOU JUST SPEAK TO WHAT DO YOU THINK IF YOU COULD, CHANGE ANYTHING, WHAT WOULD IT BE? I'D HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT. OKAY. THAT'S A LOT OF YEARS. A LOT OF YEARS. OKAY, ONE MORE THING. IF THERE WAS ANYTHING ELSE, IF YOU COULD. IF WE COULD WAVE A WAND AND, GET FOR YOU TO HELP SOLVE MORE HOMICIDES, WHAT WOULD IT BE? IF I COULD WAVE A MAGIC WAND, I WOULDN'T HAVE ANY HOMICIDES. OKAY I'LL ACCEPT THAT. I'D LIKE TO BE UNEMPLOYED. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY. CLERK. PLEASE READ ITEM TWO INTO THE RECORD. PLEASE A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR

[2. R-046-24     A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO ACCEPT $74,230 OF FUNDING FROM THE COMMONWEALTH OF KENTUCKY, JUSTICE AND PUBLIC SAFETY CABINET, THROUGH THE PROJECT SAFE NEIGHBORHOODS GRANT PROGRAM TO BE ADMINISTERED BY THE LOUISVILLE METRO POLICE DEPARTMENT. Action Required By: December 2024 Sponsors: Tammy Hawkins (D-1) ]

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AND ALMOST EVERYBODY THAT GOES IN AND DOES THAT KIND OF CRIME IS MASKED, RIGHT? WHETHER IT WAS WAY BEFORE COVID AND WAY AFTER COVID, THERE'LL ALWAYS BE A MASK PROBLEM, AND WE STILL FOUND WAYS TO KEEP A 60% CLEARANCE RATE MOST YEARS. SO THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE CAPTURED ON CAMERA THAT THAT HELP US WITH THOSE CASES, AND AS FAR AS THE MASK SITUATION GOES, THERE'S NOT A THERE'S NOT A LAW AGAINST WEARING A MASK, PER SE, THAT I'M AWARE OF. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE THAT AN ORDINANCE. YES. BUT AS FAR AS, LIKE LAW ENFORCEMENT AND CHARGING SOMEBODY WITH WEARING A MASK IN PUBLIC, I DON'T THINK THERE'S A LEGAL LIKE, I CAN'T TAKE SOMEBODY TO JAIL FOR WEARING A MASK IN PUBLIC, THAT WAS A GOOD ANSWER. AND YOU STATED SOMETHING ELSE THAT I APPRECIATED YOU. YOU DON'T HAVE TO ALWAYS BE ABLE. YOU CAN IDENTIFY PEOPLE IN OTHER WAYS. SO GOOD ANSWER. YES. YEAH.

THERE'S SEVERAL WAYS TO IDENTIFY PEOPLE. ALL RIGHT. DOES ANYBODY. ALL RIGHT. DO I HAVE A MOTION? OKAY. IS THERE AN AMENDMENT ABOUT SPEAKING ABOUT THE AMENDMENT? YOU ALL. YES. SO THE, THE GRANT ADMINISTRATOR'S OFFICE, I ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED IT AS ALL ONE, ONE REQUEST, AND THE WAY THEY ORGANIZE THE ITEMS, THEY SPLIT IT INTO TWO SEPARATE REQUESTS THAT EQUAL ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT. SO ONE OF THEM WAS THE $74,000 RANGE, AND ONE OF THEM WAS LIKE 32 OR $36,000 RANGE TO FOR THE TOTAL OF 110. SO BASICALLY ALL THEY DID WAS WAS SEPARATE OUT AND SEPARATE IT INTO TWO SEPARATE GRANTS FOR THEIR ORGANIZATIONAL PURPOSES, WITH THE PROJECT SAFE NEIGHBORHOODS INITIATIVE. OKAY SO WE ACCEPT A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT. YEAH, I MOVE TO ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT. OKAY I SECOND IT. SO ALL IN FAVOR, ANY OPPOSED? LET ME JUST MOVE. OKAY.

THIS, HAS BEEN PROPERLY VOTED IN. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM ON THE RESOLUTION AMENDMENTS. OH, OKAY. SO THE AMENDMENT ITEM, THE AMENDED ITEM IS NOW BEFORE US. YEAH SO RESOLUTION THAT CALLS A VOICE. VOICE VOTE. GUYS. EVERYONE IN FAVOR. AYE AYE AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? RESOLUTION PASSES. YEP. GOES TO OLD BUSINESS. RIGHT OKAY. ALL RIGHT, CLERK, CAN YOU

[3. R-055-24     A RESOLUTION RATIFYING AND APPROVING A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT (JULY 1, 2023 THROUGH JUNE 30, 2026) RELATING TO WAGES, HOURS, AND OTHER TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT BETWEEN LOUISVILLE/JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT AND TEAMSTERS LOCAL 783 AFFILIATED WITH THE INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD OF TEAMSTERS OF AMERICA REPRESENTING LOUISVILLE EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES/METRO SAFE DEPARTMENT. Action Required By: December 2024 Sponsors: Tammy Hawkins (D-1) ]

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SORRY, Y'ALL. THE AIRPORT, I JUST I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE HERE. I WAS REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS, AND TO HEAR THE VOTE, THE FOLKS THAT VOTED ON IT REALLY MAKES ME SMILE. I'M GLAD THAT WE'VE COME TO THIS. WE DEFINITELY SUPPORT OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES FOLKS. ALL OF YOU. AND YEAH, JUST GLAD WE'RE AT THIS MOMENT. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE, CAN I GET A MOTION? I WANT TO GET IT. OKAY. I DON'T SEE ANY. NO COMMENTS OR NONE AT THE RESOLUTION CALLING FOR A VOTE, A VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED? HI HER? NONE. ITEM PASSING WILL BE MOVED TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

I HAVE NO FURTHER BUSINESS. THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED. AND THE NEXT PUBLIC SAFETY MEETING, DAN SAMS WILL BE THE CHAIR. JULY. THE 17TH, 2024 AT 4 P.M. THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.