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          YOU TELL ME. 
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RIGHT. WE'RE GOOD. METRO TV HAS STARTED. ONE MINUTE, PLEASE. 
          EXCUSE. 
          [Call to Order]
I'D LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE HEARINGS TODAY. OUR BUDGET HEARINGS TODAY FOR THE METRO. 
          PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELLNESS. IT IS 406, I'D LIKE TO REMIND YOU TO SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES. 
          [Roll Call]
JUST KIDDING, RETRACTABLE CHAIR WITH ME IS WAS VICE CHAIR. KEVIN KRAMER WAS HERE A SECOND AGO. 
          HE'LL BE RIGHT BACK, ALSO VIRTUALLY, WE HAVE COUNCILMAN ARTHUR AND COUNCILMAN OWEN, COUNCILWOMAN FOWLER AND IN PERSON, WE HAVE COUNCILWOMAN PARKER. COUNCILWOMAN COUNCILMAN HUDSON. AND THAT'S IT FOR THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS. WE ALSO HAVE, COUNCILMAN REED IS ATTENDING VIRTUALLY. COUNCILMAN BENSON IS HERE IN CHAMBERS. COUNCILWOMAN RUDY IS HERE IN CHAMBERS. 
          COUNCILMAN RENAL WEBER, I MAY HAVE MENTIONED, I THINK I DID NOT IS HERE AS WELL, AND I'M MISSING ANYONE. I THINK I'VE GOT EVERYONE. OH COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL IS HERE VIRTUALLY AS WELL. JUST 
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A REMINDER. SO WE'LL BEGIN TODAY WITH, HEALTH, PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELLNESS. AND, WE WON'T START WITH, ANY KIND OF INTRODUCTION. WE JUST START DIRECTLY INTO THE QUESTIONS, AND, SO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE CHECKED ON. YOU'RE CLICKED ON TO PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELLNESS AS YOU GET INTO THE QUEUE. LET'S SEE NOW THAT WE HAVE OH YES, PLEASE IF YOU WOULD. SO THIS MEETING IS BEING HELD PURSUANT TO KRS 81.826 AND COUNCIL RULE FIVE, A RED AND FULL. THANK YOU. I HAVE, SO I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, POSITIONS FOR THE LEAD REGISTRY. SO I THINK WE ADDED OUR AT LEAST MY RECORDS SAY THAT WE ADDED TWO POSITIONS LAST FISCAL YEAR. AND AGAIN THIS YEAR WE'RE ADDING, $525,525, 525,000 FOR SIX NEW POSITIONS. SO IS THAT IS THAT THE NUMBER THAT YOU NEED, FOR MOVING FORWARD? SO IS THAT SIX THAT'S EIGHT TOTAL. AND IS THAT THE NUMBER THAT YOU FEEL CONFIDENT WITH THAT NUMBER TO MOVE FORWARD? I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S NEW TERRITORY. YEAH SO WE DO FEEL THIS WILL GET US KICKED OFF, THE LEAD RENTAL REGISTRY DOES BEGIN THIS DECEMBER, AND SO WE'RE DOING A LOT OF THE PREP WORK NOW, TRAINING, INDIVIDUALS WITHIN METRO AGENCIES AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND LED SAFE PRACTICES. SO WE HAVE A GOOD CAPACITY OF PEOPLE THAT CAN DO THE ASSESSMENTS AND WORK, AND THEN GETTING ALL OF THOSE, ELECTRONIC APPLICATIONS AND FORMS AND REGISTRATION PIECES IS, NOT THE MOST TECH SAVVY PERSON, BUT, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH A SELLER AND METRO IT AND GETTING ALL THOSE PIECES TOGETHER. WE, YOU KNOW, THIS WILL BE A REVENUE GENERATOR IN THE FUTURE. SO THERE'LL BE AN OPPORTUNITY LATER TO ADJUST IF, 
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IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, IF WE NEED ADDITIONAL SUPPORT, IF WE NEED TO BUILD OUR CAPACITY, WE WOULD LOOK TO FILL IT WITH, WITH THE REVENUE GENERATED THROUGH THE PROGRAM. SO IS THE FORM OF, OH, I'M SORRY, CONNIE MENDEL. OH. I'M SORRY. YEAH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, DIRECTOR, INTERIM CHIEF STRATEGIST, LOUISVILLE METRO PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELLNESS . AND SO ARE THE FORMS NOW UP IN THAT YOU'RE COLLECTING INFORMATION PRESENTLY WE ARE COLLECTING INFORMATION PRESENTLY. AND SOME OF THAT IS BASED ON THE RENTAL REGISTRY THAT IS ALREADY ROLLED OUT. SO AND THEN SOON TO BE THE LEAD RENTAL PIECE OF THAT. GOTCHA. WHEN YOU SAID THAT ABOUT UPLOADING THE FORMS. AND THAT'S WHY I WAS SMILING BECAUSE I SOUNDED LIKE THE RENTAL REGISTRY AS WELL, OR THE IMPROVED NEW AND IMPROVED RENTAL REGISTRY AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. 
          ABSOLUTELY. GREAT. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN RUY. YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU FOR ATTENDING. I'VE GOT ANOTHER QUESTION ABOUT THE LEAD. AND, JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, DO YOU HAVE THE NUMBERS AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU WANT THE PEOPLE TO GET THINGS SET TO? I HAD A DEVELOPER ASK ME ABOUT THIS LAST YEAR. WHAT THE REGULATIONS ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND WHAT THEY NEED TO MEET. OKAY. I THINK THE REGULATIONS ARE SET AND STANDARD. I'M GOING TO SAY I CAN BRING NICK HART UP TO HELP. NICK HART IS, AND DIRECTOR OVER OUR ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH DIVISION. SO I THINK YOUR QUESTION IS, DO WE HAVE THE REGULATIONS READY FOR THE DEVELOPERS? YES. SO DEVELOPERS OF NEW PROPERTIES SHOULD NOT BE AFFECTED BY THIS ORDINANCE BECAUSE IT IS ONLY AFFECTING RENTAL PROPERTY THAT WAS BUILT PRIOR TO 1978, SO I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ISSUE THERE. OKAY SO YOU HAVE THE STANDARDS ALREADY, THEN THE STANDARDS ARE ALREADY CONTAINED IN THE LOUISVILLE METRO CODE OF ORDINANCES. OKAY. 
          NOW, NOW, ARE YOU ASKING ABOUT THE PROCESSES? I'M TRYING TO THINK ABOUT HOW I CAN BE HELPFUL AND ANSWER. YEAH, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE THAT ONE OUT, TOO. I JUST REMEMBER SOMEONE ASKED IT WAS ASKING ME ABOUT THAT A YEAR AGO, AND THE INFORMATION HE WAS LOOKING FOR WASN'T AVAILABLE AT THAT TIME. SO I WILL SAY THIS, THAT, THE UNITED STATES HAS BEEN CONTROLLING LEAD FOR A VERY, VERY LONG TIME. IN FACT, SINCE WE OUTLAWED ITS USE IN PAINT IN 1978 AND MANY OTHER PRODUCTS RIGHT NOW IN THE STATE OF KENTUCKY AND IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF LEAD CONTRACTORS. THESE ARE PROFESSIONALS WHO'VE BEEN WORKING IN THE BUSINESS FOR DECADES, WHO KNOW HOW TO GO AND IDENTIFY LEAD HAZARDS AND THEN REMOVE AND OR CONTROL THEM IN A HOME. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS WE WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW. IF YOU ARE A LANDLORD OR IF YOU ARE REDEVELOPING EXISTING PROPERTY THAT MAY BE BUILT PRIOR TO 1978, IT IS NOT DIFFICULT TO DO THIS. THE STANDARDS ALREADY EXIST. REVIEW YOUR PROPERTY WITH A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL. IDENTIFY THOSE HAZARDS. CONTROL THEM SO THERE SHOULD BE A LOT MORE INFORMATION ON OUR WEBSITE FROM A YEAR AGO, AND ALWAYS WELCOME TO REACH OUT TO ANYONE ON OUR LEAD TEAM FOR QUESTIONS INFORMATION, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN REED , THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. AND THIS IS ANOTHER QUESTION REGARDING THE LEAD REGISTRY, AND HOPEFULLY THIS IS THE RIGHT FORUM TO ASK THIS QUESTION, BUT I, IS IT TRUE THAT AFTER THE, THE CERTIFICATION IS MADE THAT THE APPLICANT HAS TO COME BACK IN THREE YEARS TO RECERTIFY? IS THAT TRUE? I'LL STAY UP HERE. OKAY SO THE LEAD REGISTRY HAS AN ANNUAL RECERTIFICATION PROCESS. 
          SO ANNUALLY THEY WILL HAVE TO REGISTER THEIR PROPERTY. AND I BELIEVE RIGHT NOW THAT THE LEAD INSPECTOR REPORT AND THE LEAD CONTROL REPORT MUST BE RENEWED EVERY THREE YEARS. SO THIS IS THE PROCESS WHERE YOU GO BACK INTO THE RENTAL PROPERTY, YOU REVIEW IT, YOU LOOK AT YOUR OLD RECORDS, YOU SEE IF ANY WEAR AND TEAR HAS CREATED A POTENTIAL HAZARD IN THE HOME. YOU CONTROL THAT. YOU FILL OUT YOUR PAPERWORK AGAIN, AND YOU RESUBMIT THAT WITH YOUR ANNUAL RENEWAL. IS THAT OKAY? AND I'M NO THANK THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND I'M NO EXPERT, BUT SINCE, LEAD PRODUCTS ARE ILLEGAL, DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO REQUIRE THAT AGAIN IN THREE YEARS, WHILE THAT PRODUCT MAY BE ILLEGAL, THEY THEY MAKE IT INTO ALL SORTS OF PRODUCTS ON A REGULAR BASIS. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU ALL ARE FINDING THE APPLESAUCE LEAD OUTBREAK THAT WE HAD HERE IN THE UNITED STATES. WE HAD TO RECALL A LARGE PORTION OF APPLESAUCE FROM SOME MAJOR BRANDS. SO, WHEN IT COMES TO RENTAL HOUSING, IT'S THE WEAR AND TEAR THAT WE'RE CONCERNED WITH, RIGHT? SO IF WE HAVE LEAD IN THE HOME, IT CAN BE POTENTIALLY VERY DIFFICULT TO EXTRACT ALL OF THE LEAD ALL AT ONCE. BUT WE ALSO ALLOW DIFFERENT TYPES OF CONTROLS, 
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INTERIM CONTROLS AS OPPOSED TO ABATEMENT. AND THIS MEANS THAT WE MANAGE THE LEAD IN PLACE TO REMOVE THE POTENTIAL FOR IT CAUSING A HAZARD AND ELEVATED BLOOD LEAD LEVEL. AND SO WHEN WE DO THAT WE USE AN INTERIM CONTROL. WE WANT TO GO BACK AND ENSURE THAT THAT CONTROL IS STILL EFFECTIVE. ALL THESE CONTROLS DO HAVE A LIFESPAN. AND SO ONE THING THAT YOU WILL NOT HAVE TO DO IN MANY CASES IS CONDUCT THE ENTIRE LEAD HAZARD ASSESSMENT. AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE A LEAD HAZARD ASSESSMENT THAT WAS THOROUGH, GENERALLY YOU FOUND ALL THE LEAD. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO AND REDO. NOW. YOU WILL HAVE TO RESUBMIT THAT REPORT. 
          AND THE FACT THAT YOU'VE GONE AND REVIEWED THAT AND INSPECTED THE PROPERTY AND THEN TAKE ANY ADDITIONAL CONTROLS THAT THAT NORMAL WEAR AND TEAR HAS CAUSED ON THAT PRODUCT, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? CAN I BE MORE HELPFUL IN THAT EXPLANATION? NO, NO, NO, THAT'S THAT'S HELPFUL. I JUST I OSTENSIBLY THOUGH THE, THE LEAD IS CREATED BY THE PRIMARILY THE PINK. CORRECT. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN MANY CASES IN LOUISVILLE. YES. THAT IS THE PRIMARY SOURCE OF LEAD. 
          YEAH SO AND I'LL ADD ON SO AS YOU CAN IMAGINE A PRE 78 PROPERTY, PARTICULARLY THOSE GOING BACK, YOU KNOW 5070 MORE YEARS. THE LAYERS OF LEAD PAINT THAT MAY BE IN THE WALLS, EXTERIOR, INTERIOR WINDOW SEALS AND THE LEAD CONTAMINATED SOIL FROM THE DRIP LINE AND OUTSIDE PAINT. SO YOU'RE ALLOWED TO DO INTERIM CONTROLS, AS LONG AS THE SURFACES ARE HARD AND SEALABLE. 
          BUT YOU KNOW, IN OVER THE COURSE OF THREE YEARS, BEING A RENTAL PROPERTY, SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE COULD BE DONE. YOU COULD BE ERODING THOSE LAYERS BACK TO LEAD AGAIN, WHAT WAS GRASS COVERED SOIL ON THE OUTSIDE COULD NOW BE BARE SOIL, WHICH PRESENTS A, A WHAT WE SEE IS A ROUTE OF EXPOSURE, PARTICULARLY IF YOU IMAGINE YOUNG CHILDREN PLAYING IN THE DIRT, SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT SOIL IS COVERED, AND AGAIN, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FURTHER DAMAGE HASN'T HAPPENED IN THAT THREE YEARS TO CREATE A MORE POTENTIAL LEAD EXPOSURE. AND IT DOESN'T RULE OUT PEOPLE ACTUALLY BRINGING LEAD PRODUCTS INTO THE HOME. WE JUST WORKED WITH A BUSINESS OWNER RECENTLY WHO HAD HAD THEIR BUSINESS REMODELED, AND THEY BROUGHT IN RECLAIMED WOOD. ALL OF THAT RECLAIMED WOOD WAS COVERED IN LEAD PAINT, WHICH THEY WERE NOT AWARE OF. AND SO THESE THINGS DO HAPPEN. OKAY. IT IS NOT A STATIC ENVIRONMENT I GUESS IS WHAT I SHOULD SAY. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. WE HAVE BEEN JOINED BY COUNCILMAN PIAGENTINI AND CHAMBERS AND COUNCILWOMAN CRANEY VIRTUALLY. COUNCILMAN RANDALL WEBER, I DID NOT INTEND TO ASK ABOUT LEAD, BUT SINCE YOU'RE HERE, SO DO WE HAVE A LIST OF CERTIFIED PROVIDERS? BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING ON THE WEBSITE AND I DIDN'T SEE ONE. SO THAT IS A THAT IS A SERVICES PROVIDED FOR BY THE STATE. SO THE STATE DOES THE CERTIFICATION AND THE TESTING AND THE ISSUING OF THOSE LICENSES. AND THEY DO MAINTAIN A LIST OF CERTIFIED LEAD ABATEMENT CONTRACTORS, WHICH ALSO INCLUDE IDENTIFIERS, INSPECTORS AND RISK ASSESSORS. GOT IT. SO IS THERE A WAY OR CAN WE PUT THAT ON OUR WEBSITE? WE CAN ABSOLUTELY PROVIDE A LINK TO THAT FROM FROM OUR WEBPAGE. THAT'D BE GREAT. I JUST THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS WHERE PEOPLE WHO I KNOW WHO HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH THE RENTAL REGISTRY ARE JUST LIKE, IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE IF THERE WERE A STEP BY STEP LIKE, THIS IS WHAT I NEED TO DO, AND HERE'S WHO I CAN CALL. AND SO IF THAT EXISTS ON THE STATE LEVEL AND THEY'RE DOING THAT, THAT'D BE WONDERFUL. ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT. I HAVE ANOTHER SEPARATE QUESTION, BUT I CAN REENTER THE QUEUE. YOU'RE GOOD. YOU CAN HAVE MORE THAN ONE. CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR YOUR DEPARTMENT'S EFFORTS TO INCREASE THE LEVEL OF THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE, THAT ARE BILLABLE TO MEDICAID OR MEDICARE OR OTHER INSURANCE COMPANIES? NO ONE SAW THAT COMING. SO YES, AS A MATTER OF FACT, OUR CHIEF OF HEALTH SERVICES, STACEY INGRAM, BEHIND ME, JUST PARTICIPATED IN AN INTERVIEW WORKING WITH DELOITTE TO IDENTIFY AREAS, WE ARE LOOKING FOR POTENTIAL BILLING OPPORTUNITIES WITH OUR COMMUNITY HEALTH WORKERS, WHICH IS RELATIVELY NEW TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES. 
          STACEY, DID YOU SHARE? THANK YOU. GET UP, STACEY INGRAM, WE ALSO DISCUSSED SOME OF THE COMPLICATIONS WITH GRANT FUNDING AND MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE NOT BILLING FOR SERVICES THAT WE ARE BEING PROVIDED FUNDING FOR, THEY WERE GOING TO RESEARCH BECAUSE THEY HAD FOUND SIMILAR INCIDENTS WITH OTHER STATES THAT THEY HAVE WORKED WITH AND GET US SOME RESPONSE, SO WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH THEM. THEY ALSO ASKED FOR SOME ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION ON THOSE GRANTS AND THE SERVICES THAT ARE COVERED UNDER THOSE AGREEMENTS. SO YES, WE ARE CONTINUING TO LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES, BUT ALSO WORKING WITH DELOITTE AND OUR EHR AND THE NEW EHR, WHICH IS VERY EXCITING, WHICH WE HAVE OUR FIRST ROUND OF GO LIVE, IN JULY AND WE HOPE TO SEE IN THE SUBSEQUENT MONTHS THE DIFFERENCE THAT THAT MAKES IN BILLING AND REIMBURSEMENT CAPTURE. BRILLIANT 
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EXCELLENT. IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN GET SOME KIND OF REGULAR REPORTING STRUCTURE ON? GREAT. 
          THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. AND HERE'S WHAT OUR LEVEL OF BILLING OVER TIME. YES OUR OMB HEALTH BILLING, PROVIDES A MONTHLY REPORT BASED ON OUR CURRENT PROCESSES, AND WE WILL HAVE MUCH MORE SOPHISTICATED REPORTING AVAILABLE TO US. ONCE THE AIR IS BRILLIANT, I WILL ALSO JUST NOTE THIS WHEN THERE IS MEDICAID BILLING, YOU DON'T HAVE TO NOT BILL MEDICAID. YOU CAN THEN USE THE MONEY THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY USING FOR SOMETHING ELSE. AND SO I THINK THE HOPE IS THAT THAT WE THEN AS LONG AS WE DON'T CO-MINGLE FUNDS , IT'S LEGAL. WE CAN BILL FOR WE SHOULD BILL FOR EVERYTHING WE CAN AND THEN TAKE THE MONEY THAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE PROVIDING THOSE SERVICES AND SAY, HEY, LOOK, THIS IS ADDITIONAL MONEY THAT WE HAVE TO INCREASE OR IMPROVE OUR SERVICES. SO I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME, HEY, WE CAN'T BLEND FUNDING. GREAT WE CAN'T BLEND FUNDING, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR THINGS THAT SOMEONE ELSE WILL PAY FOR. 
          WE SHOULD THEN BE THINKING, GREAT, THAT'S FREE MONEY FOR US. THAT'S IT. COUNCILMEMBER. 
          COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU. I'VE GOT ONE MORE LEAD QUESTION AND THEN I'LL COME WITH SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. OKAY. SO JUST FOR AN EXAMPLE, I LIVED IN A HOUSE THAT WAS BUILT IN 1923, AND THE PAINT WAS FAILING ALL OVER THE HOUSE. IT WAS PEELING OFF THE WOODWORK. I HAD IT COMPLETELY REMOVED. BUT WHEN YOU SEAL IT, IT SAY THE PAINT. I LEFT THE PAINT ON THERE AND I SEAL IT. IT STARTS TO FLAKE OFF. SO THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE REDONE OVER AND OVER AGAIN EVERY TIME IT FLAKES OFF. IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH. LEAD ABATEMENT WOULD BE A COMPLETE REMOVAL OF LEAD IN A HOME, WHICH, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, IS VERY COSTLY. IT CAN BE DONE. BUT THAT IS TAKING OFF ALL LAYERS OF, LEAD PAINT THROUGH THE HOUSE INTERIOR EXTERIOR AND REMOVING SOIL. SO NOT JUST COVERING SOIL WITH GRASS. SO YES. SO WHAT WE WERE WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS INTERIM CONTROLS. AND IT HAS TO BE DONE WITH SOMEONE TRAINED AND LEAD SAFE PRACTICES BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO CREATE MORE DUST. WE'VE HAD SEVERAL CASES WHERE SOMEONE IS, YOU KNOW, REFURBISHING A HOME AND THEIR CHILDREN BECOME LEAD POISONED BECAUSE THEY'RE LIVING IN THE HOME WHILE THEY'RE DOING THAT WORK. SO YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO COLLECT ALL THE PAINT CHIPS, EXTERNAL INTERNAL, YOU KNOW, WETTING DOWN SURFACES, A LOT OF PRACTICES, BUT IF YOU'RE JUST SANDING THAT OUTSIDE LAYER AND SEALING, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS THE POTENTIAL FOR THAT TO BECOME DETERIORATED AGAIN AND CREATE MORE LEAD DUST. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES IT DOES. THANK YOU. OKAY. NOW A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT OKAY. SO I WAS LOOKING AT THE MASSIVE LIST OF IMMUNIZATIONS THAT YOU ALL GIVE OUT THAT YOU ALL PROVIDE. SO AND THE FEES ATTACHED HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY PAYING THOSE FEES. AND THEN WHAT RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE FOR FOLKS. OKAY SO, WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR CLINICAL MEDICAL SERVICES, WE PROVIDE THOSE, REGARDLESS OF SOMEONE'S ABILITY TO PAY. SO THAT MAY BEGIN TO HELP, FOR OTHER AREAS OF FEES, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FOOD PERMITS, SWIMMING POOL, HOTEL, THOSE TYPE OF STATE PERMITS, THOSE ARE FEE ASSOCIATED BECAUSE THOSE ARE BUSINESS PERMITS, I DON'T HAVE DO YOU HAVE NUMBERS? WE RECRUIT A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE, PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR BODY LANGUAGE THERE, PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT LIKE OUR TB SERVICES, BUT IT'S CRUCIAL THIS IS AN UNDUPLICATED SERVICE FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND WE WANT TO PREVENT THE SPREAD OF TUBERCULOSIS AND OTHER INFECTIOUS DISEASES IS SPECIFICALLY TO IMMUNIZATIONS. WE PARTICIPATE IN THE 317 PROGRAM AND THE VACCINES FOR CHILDREN PROGRAM. SO IF SOMEONE IS UNINSURED OR UNDERINSURED, SPECIFIC TO IMMUNIZATIONS, WE CAN STILL OFFER THOSE AT NO COST TO THE INDIVIDUAL. AND THEN WE RECOUP THE MONEY THROUGH MEDICARE. AND WE DO RECEIVE THOSE VACCINES AT NO COST. SO VERY GOOD. SO IT'S ADMINISTRATION THAT WE'RE COVERING. ALL RIGHT. I'LL GET BACK IN THE QUEUE FOR MY NEXT ONE. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE HAVE BEEN JOINED BY COUNCILMAN DAN SAM. COUNCILMAN KRAMER, THANK YOU, I WAS WONDERING, THERE ARE TWO PROGRAMS THAT, WE'VE EITHER REDUCED THE FUNDING OR I CAN'T FIND THEM, ELECTRONIC MEDICAL RECORDS. WE WERE. WE PUT SOME MONEY IN LAST YEAR FOR THAT, AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT IS IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET. AND THEN, THERE SEEMS TO BE A REDUCTION IN WASTEWATER SAMPLING, AND SO WE COULD SPEAK TO THOSE TWO FOR ME. 
          SURE SO, ELECTRONIC MEDICAL RECORDS IS SPREAD BETWEEN SEVERAL COST CENTERS. IF YOU LOOK IN, UNDER EXTERNAL AGENCY CONTRACTS, PAYMENTS TO CONTRACTORS AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, THERE'S APPROXIMATELY, WE ACTUALLY, RECEIVED AN ENHANCEMENT FOR THIS YEAR'S 
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BUDGET OF $400,000 TO COVER THOSE COSTS. SO I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW EXCITED WE ARE ABOUT A DEPARTMENT WIDE ELECTRONIC HEALTH RECORD SYSTEM, GIVEN THAT WE HAVE SO MANY CLINICAL PROGRAMS AND NON-CLINICAL, WHERE WE HAVE HEALTH RECORDS AND WE HAVE VARIOUS DATABASES AND SPREADSHEETS AND ACCOUNTING, SO THIS IS GOING TO BE HUGE FOR US. AND BE ABLE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS THAT SOMETIMES I RECEIVE HERE AT MEETINGS FOR REPORTING. SO WE CAN GIVE YOU BETTER NUMBERS AND, AND OUTCOMES. OKAY, AND THEN THE WASTEWATER SAMPLING. YEAH. SO WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE THE WASTEWATER SAMPLING WITH THE ENVIRONM, WE ARE MOVED TO A PAN VIRUS PANEL. SO THIS ORIGINALLY STARTED OUT WITH ARP FUNDING WITH COVID WHERE WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT COVID, THAT'S BEEN EXPANDED TO MULTIPLE RESPIRATORY DISEASES, RSV, INFLUENZA AND ALSO OTHER CONTAGIOUS. WE LOOK FOR MEASLES MPOX WE'LL BE LOOKING SOON FOR H5N1. I GOT IT RIGHT. YEAH NOT H1N1 BUT H5N1. I GET MY DIFFERENT AVIAN FLU VIRUSES BACKWARDS, WE BUT WE ARE REDUCING SOME OF THAT, MAYBE LESS FREQUENT, NOT AS FREQUENT. TRYING TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF GENERAL FUNDS, BUT WE'RE ALSO WE'VE REACHED OUT TO THE STATE. THEY HAVE SOME GRANT FUNDING FOR SURVEILLANCE. SO WE'RE HOPING TO, MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE IN THAT GRANT. SO. OKAY. GOOD. MY SECOND QUESTION, I WAS HOPING YOU COULD SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO THE, THE DISCUSSION AROUND THE NEW, PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELLNESS HEADQUARTERS, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY IN THERE, TO DO A STUDY. WHAT IS WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU PLANNING ON DOING WITH THE MONEY THAT'S THERE FOR THE STUDY? I MEAN, WHAT WHEN YOU SAY DO A STUDY, WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT? AND THEN, ARE THERE ANY LOCATIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE STARTED TO THINK ABOUT, OVER THE YEARS, WE'VE LOOKED AT, WE'VE CONSIDERED MULTIPLE LOCATIONS OF WHERE WE WOULD BE GOOD FIT. WELL, ONE EXAMPLE IS LIKE THE RODEO, WORK THERE, AND JUST WHEREVER LARGE PIECES OF PROPERTY HAVE, HAVE COME OPEN WHERE THERE'S OTHER, SERVICES. SO OUR, FOR THOSE OF YOU, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO OUR BUILDING, WE ARE THREE STORY CONCRETE BLOCK. BUILDING, IN THE 50S, ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES WE HAVE ARE, LEAKS, ROOF LEAKS AND VARIOUS PLACES. BUT ALSO OUR HVAC SYSTEM IS IT'S A BOILER SYSTEM AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, BEEN PIECED TOGETHER OVER THE YEARS. AND THE SAME THING WITH OUR LAB THAT'S ADJOINING US. SO WE DID SUFFER A FLOOD IN THE FALL OF 22 FROM THE THIRD FLOOR DOWN. AND, SO WE HAVE REPLACED FACED MANY USING, INSURANCE FUNDS FROM THAT. THE FLOORING FURNITURE, PARTICULARLY ON THE SECOND FLOOR WE REPLACE LIGHTING, BOTH THE CEILING AND THE FLOOR AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN. AND THEN PORTIONS OF THE FIRST FLOOR. SO, LOOKING AT THE STUDY, BECAUSE WE ARE WE HAVE A GREAT LOCATION RIGHT THERE BEING WITH AROUND ALL OF THE HOSPITALS AND ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE SCHOOL FOR PUBLIC HEALTH, YOU KNOW, SERVE OUR CLIENTS THERE AT GRAY, A BLOCK OFF OF BROADWAY BETWEEN PRESTON AND JACKSON, WE HAVE PARKING LOT, SO THERE'S A LOT OF ADVANTAGES TO THE SPACE WE HAVE, WE JUST HAVE JUST CONTINUED ISSUES OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE. OKAY AND THEN MY THIRD QUESTION, I WAS LOOKING AT, A PROJECT FOR, I THINK IT WAS $2 MILLION FOR THE FAMILY HEALTH CENTERS AT THE MARINE HOSPITAL, CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO THE HOW THE PROGRESS IS GOING WITH THE MARINE HOSPITAL? YEAH. SO THAT IS THE CAPITAL PROJECT FROM FOR FISCAL YEAR 24, WE HAVE A FULLY EXECUTED AGREEMENT WITH FAMILY HEALTH CENTERS. WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY INVOICES AS TO YET, THEY HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS. THE SCOPE OF THE WORK, FOR THOSE THAT MAY OR MAY NOT REMEMBER, THEY'RE LOOKING TO TRANSFORM THE , THE, THE SITE FOR, FOR, EXECUTIVE OFFICES AND ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES TO THEN OPEN UP MORE SPACE AT THE PORTLAND FAMILY HEALTH CENTERS, MEDICAL FACILITIES. SO TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND THEIR PRIMARY CARE SERVICES AND OTHER SERVICES . SO, A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN OMB AND OUR TEAM. SO LIKE AGAIN, WE DO HAVE IT IS FULLY EXECUTED. THE AGREEMENT, THEY HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS ON WHAT WERE ALLOWABLE EXPENSES. I THINK WE HAVE SETTLED ALL OF THAT AND THEY HAVE CLEAR INSTRUCTIONS. SO NOW WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR THE INVOICES AS THEY INCUR EXPENSES. GREAT. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN PARKER. YES. THANK YOU, I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT HOW MANY POSITIONS THAT YOU STILL HAVE VACANT. AND OF THOSE POSITIONS, WHICH ONES ARE YOU 
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FILLING WITH? CONTRACT LABOR. AND IS THAT WORKING? WELL, BOTH PROFESSIONALLY AND FISCALLY, SO WE HAVE, APPROXIMATELY 110 POSITIONS THAT ARE VACANT, THE LARGE MAJORITY OF THOSE ARE WITHIN OUR CLINICAL SERVICES, OUR NURSING, YOU KNOW, REGISTERED NURSING, LICENSED PRACTICAL NURSES, MEDICAL ASSISTANTS, GENERALLY BECAUSE, WE'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH MARKET RATES ON NURSING. SO AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, PARTICULARLY DURING COVID, THAT SKYROCKETED, WE ARE FILLING SOME OF THOSE WITH LONG TERM CONTRACTS, LIKE WITH OUR APRONS OR WORKING WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF LOUISVILLE SCHOOL WITH NURSING MEDICAL SCHOOL, OTHERS WE FILL WITH STAFFING CONTRACTORS. SO THOSE ARE, YOU COULD HAVE A DIFFERENT PERSON DAY TO DAY OR WEEK TO WEEK, WE'RE ABLE TO COMPLETE THE SERVICES, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT CAUSES PROBLEMS WITH MORALE AT TIMES WHEN CONTRACTORS COME IN MAKING MORE MONEY, IT CAUSES CONTINUITY ISSUES. IF WE HAVE A LOT OF TURNOVER, A LOT OF OUR NURSING SUPERVISORS ARE ALSO CONTRACT POSITIONS. SO OUR NURSES AND MANY OF OUR CLINICAL POSITIONS, THE, THOSE ARE THE FRONT LINE ARE, ASKED ME. SO THEY ARE PART OF THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING UNIT. WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO NEGOTIATIONS THAT SHOULD BEGIN IN JULY TO HAVE THOSE WAGES ADJUSTED SO WE'RE ABLE TO HIRE FULL TIME EMPLOYEES. OKAY THANK YOU, ONE OTHER QUESTION. ARE YOU RECEIVING ANY GRANTS OR NOT RECEIVING ANY GRANTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 25 THAT YOU ARE GETTING IN 24? AND HOW WILL THAT IMPACT WHAT YOU DO, WE HAVE A WHOLE LIST OF GRANTS THAT WE RECEIVE AND ARE NOT RECEIVING. SOME OF THEM ARE LISTED AS WERE THEY, LISTED AS ENDING. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE NOTES, THEY ARE, REOCCURRING, IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT CONTRACT THAT IS SET UP, ONE IN PARTICULAR THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH IS A IS A SUB GRANT WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, THAT IS PROVIDING SOME OF THE FUNDING FOR OUR STAFF WORKING WITH LMDC WITH CORRECTIONS AND METHADONE TREATMENT AND REENTRY SERVICES. SO WE ARE LOOKING TO REPLACE THAT WITH OTHER SERVICES, THESE OTHER GRANTS, WE HAVE A TEAM OF FOLKS THAT WORK CONTINUOUSLY. SO, WE'RE ALSO FORTUNATE TO RECEIVE THE CDC, PUBLIC HEALTH INFRASTRUCTURE GRANT. THAT'S 9 MILLION OVER FIVE YEARS, SO THAT'S HELPING US AGAIN ON SOME OF SERVICES, I WAS HERE LASTTION WEEK TALKING ABOUT THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT DOLLARS. LM W IS RECEIVING A PORTION OF THAT TO HELP CONTINUE AGAIN WITH REENTRY SERVICES AND EXPAND OUR ABILITY. SO I'M I DON'T SEE ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO LOSS OF GRANTS BECAUSE TYPICALLY WE'RE ABLE TO REPLACE THOSE WITH OTHERS. OKAY. YEAH WE'RE REALLY EXCITED THAT OUR HEALTHY START GRANT WAS RENEWED AT 1.2 MILLION A YEAR FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. 
          SO THAT'S VERY EXCITING. THAT'S ONE OF OUR BIG, YOU KNOW, MATERNAL AND INFANT MORTALITY PROGRAMS TO COMBAT THOSE ISSUES THAT WE SEE IN LOUISVILLE. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS HAS JOINED US. COUNCILMAN PIAGENTINI. HI. THANK YOU, QUICK FOLLOW UP FROM, COUNCILMAN WEBBER'S QUESTIONS. WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THE BUDGET BREAKDOWN AND I'M JUST LOOKING AT ONE OF THE CHARTS, I THINK THAT CAME FROM YOU. ALL THAT THAT WERE UPDATED. GENERAL FUND APPROPRIATIONS, STATE AND FEDERAL GRANTS, WHICH LOOK WAY UP, WHICH IS GREAT, THEN THERE'S A COLUMN AGENCY CARRY FORWARD AND, IT SAYS AGENCY COMMA, CARRY FORWARD AND OTHER. I'M ASSUMING THAT WOULD BE WHERE ANY AGENCY RECEIPTS SHOWS UP. IS THAT, SUCH AS MEDICAID REIMBURSEMENT? I'M JUST WONDERING WHERE WE WOULD ACCOUNT FOR THAT REIMBURSEMENT IN THIS MORE MACRO DISCUSSION. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, WE CAN SAY WHEN WE COME BACK NEXT YEAR, OH GEE, LOOK AT THE PROGRESS. WE'RE MAKING. GREAT. SO AND FOR INSTANCE, SOME OF THOSE GRANTS IS SHOWING THE 9 MILLION OF THE PUBLIC HEALTH INFRASTRUCTURE GRANT THAT WILL RECEIVE OVER FIVE YEARS. SO WE'RE NOT GETTING QUITE THAT MUCH TO SPEND IN 25, BUT IT'S STILL 1.8 MILLION THAT WE'RE ABLE AND WE'RE EXTREMELY HAPPY THAT WE'LL HAVE THAT REOCCURRING FOR FIVE YEARS. SO DO YOU GO AHEAD, SIR, ANGELA DUNN, CFO AS FAR AS THE MEDICAL BILLING PROCESS, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE MEDICAID BILLING, 
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MEDICARE BILLING, ETC. THOSE REVENUES ARE RECORDED ON THE GENERAL FUND TABLE. SO IT'S NOT YOU WOULDN'T SEE REVENUES SPECIFICALLY IN THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. IT'S PART OF THE OVERALL GENERAL FUND. OKAY. SO I GUESS TO COUNCILMAN MARINA WEBBER'S POINT, MAYBE WE WE'LL JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY NEXT YEAR TO SORT OF PULL OUT THAT REPORTING JUST TO SHOW PROGRESS IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, I THINK. YEAH OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. WE DO SEE CARRY OVER FROM GRANTS THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO SPEND ALL OF IT. A LOT OF OUR FEDERAL PARTNERS AND STATE, STATE HEALTH DEPARTMENT ALLOW US TO CARRY THAT FORWARD. GREAT. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN RUBY. THANK YOU. AS I WENT THROUGH THE REPORT, I NOTICED SEWAGE TREATMENT PLANTS AND SEPTIC SYSTEMS. AND I'M SURE THERE'S PLENTY OF SEPTIC SYSTEMS STILL OUT IN THE COUNTY. HOW MANY PACKAGE PLANTS ARE THERE OUT THERE STILL, THERE ARE THERE ARE A FEW, MOST OF THEM HAVE BEEN TAKEN OVER BY THE LARGE MSD PLANTS, BUT THERE ARE PACKAGE PLANTS, FOR AN EXAMPLE, I CAN GIVE YOU, VALHALLA FOR THE PGA WAS JUST PLAYED. THEY ARE NOT CONNECTED TO SEWERS. SO IN ADDITION TO OUR FOOD SAFETY TEAM THAT WAS THERE EVERY DAY TRYING TO ENSURE THAT THERE WAS NO FOODBORNE OUTBREAK RELATED TO FEEDING, A LOT OF FOLKS, WE ALSO HAD OUR WASTEWATER ENVIRONMENTALIST MAKING SURE THAT ALL WASTEWATER, WHETHER IT BE RAW SEWAGE OR GRAY WATER, WHICH WOULD WHAT WE CONSIDER WASH WATER, FOR INSTANCE, WAS PROPERLY TREATED OR HAULED OFF. SO THEY DID HAUL OFF TENS OF THOUSANDS OF GALLONS A DAY OF WASTEWATER FROM THAT SITE. SO I CAN GET YOU AN ACTUAL NUMBER OF PACKAGE PLANTS. YEAH, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. YEAH, I CAN IMAGINE THE STRAIN THAT SYSTEM WOULD GO UNDER, GOING FROM A REGULAR DAILY USE TO THE PGA. THAT WOULD BE HUGE. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN CHAPPELL YEAH, JUST WANTED TO SAY YOU HAVE A BEAUTIFUL ORGANIZATIONAL CHART, AND I THINK IT DESERVES AN A PLUS. SO GREAT JOB ON THAT. AND I HOPE EVERYONE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT. BUT IT'S REALLY, REALLY BEAUTIFUL. REALLY QUICK QUESTION, I NOTICED THE $3.5 MILLION IS STILL, ALLOCATED FOR THE LOUISVILLE COMMUNITY GROCERY, BUT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE REALLOCATED, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT IF YOU KNOW OF A TIMELINE FOR WHEN THAT MONEY WILL BE TRANSITIONED AND WHEN WHERE IT WILL GO? HI. ANGIE DUNN, CFO THAT IS, THE REALLOCATION OR THE REPURPOSING OF THAT DOLLARS SHOULD BE REFLECTED IN THE 25 BUDGET. SO THAT MONEY WAS BEING MOVED FROM GROCERY STORES AND REDISTRIBUTED WITHIN THE CAPITAL BUDGET. SO FROM LIKE AN OVERALL FUNDING PERSPECTIVE, THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN VINCENT, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, I JUST HAVE A SIMPLE QUESTION. I GUESS THE LEAD ABATEMENT, THAT THAT, A RENTAL PROPERTY HAS TO BE INSPECTED, HOW DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THAT COST? I MEAN, IT COST THE PERSON WHO OWNS THE RENTAL PROPERTY, RIGHT? CORRECT. I MEAN, I, I THINK I MIGHT BE THE ONLY PERSON ON THE COUNCIL WHO HAS RENTAL PROPERTY, SO IT KIND OF AFFECTS ME. OH, YOU HAVE A RENTAL PROPERTY? OKAY, WELL, THIS PROBABLY IF WE'RE REALLY WANTING PEOPLE TO BE PROTECTED, KIDS AND STUFF. IF YOU THINK ABOUT ALL THE HOUSES IN JEFFERSON COUNTY, THEY WERE BUILT BEFORE 1978, HAVE GOT LEAD PAINT. AND SO, I DON'T KNOW, WE CAN'T REALLY GO INTO SOMEBODY'S HOUSE. ALTHOUGH A LOT OF THESE KIDS LIVE IN JEFFERSON AND GO TO SCHOOL IN JEFFERSON COUNTY AND, AND, AND THEY OUGHT TO BE PROTECTED EVEN THOUGH THEIR PARENTS MIGHT NOT, BECAUSE THEY MAY BE NOT PAYING OVER COVERING OVER IT. BUT A LOT OF PARENTS, I MEAN, A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE FOSTER PARENTS OR WHATEVER ARE TAKING CARE OF KIDS DO ARE THOSE PLACES ALL THAT THEY GET INSPECTED FOR, LEAD ABATEMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE IN A SAFE ENVIRONMENT? OR DOES THE PERSON WHO'S WHO'S GOING THROUGH THE FOSTER SYSTEM, DO THEY KNOW? YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THE PEOPLE WHO'S TAKING CARE OF THE KIDS ARE OF QUALITY, BUT DO THEY KNOW THE ENVIRONMENT WHERE THEY ARE LIVING? IS IT OKAY? YEAH. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT ON THE LEAD RENTAL PROPERTY, WHICH THIS IS THE ONE OF THE FIRST TIMES THAT WE'VE BEEN REALLY PROACTIVE IN PREVENTING, LEAD POISONING. SO TYPICALLY WHAT WHAT OCCURS IF, IF SOMEONE LIVES SOMEONE WITH A, WITH A CHILD, OR, RECENTLY WE DID A PILOT STUDY WITH, PRE, PRENATAL APPOINTMENTS. IF YOU LIVE IN AN AREA WITH, PRE 1978 HOUSING, THERE SHOULD BE, AN ASSESSMENT DONE WITH YOUR CARE PROVIDER. PEDIATRICIANS DO THIS. 
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THEY ASK FOR YOUR ADDRESS. WE KNOW THE AREAS WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THE PRE 78 HOUSING IS, AND WE WORK WITH CHILD CARE PROVIDERS WITH PEDIATRICIANS AND THAT SO THEY'RE SCREENING PREGNANT MOTHERS MOST RECENTLY WITH THOSE RECEIVING CARE AT FAMILY HEALTH CENTERS AND WITH THE PEDIATRICIANS. SO WE'VE BEEN SCREENING FOR LEAD POISONING FOR A LONG TIME WITH THE, RENTAL REGISTRY. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'RE IDENTIFYING THE LEAD AND GETTING THAT TAKEN CARE OF, OR WILL BE BEFORE THE CHILD IS POISONED. SO WHAT I CAN DO IS WE CAN GET A LIST, OF COST AT THE TYPICALLY ASSOCIATED WITH A LEAD INSPECTION OR RISK ASSESSMENT. SO WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH THAT INFORMATION. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE WORKED FOR DECADES WITH PEDIATRIC WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, CHILD CARE PROVIDERS, PARENTS, ANYONE LIVING IN OUR OUR TARGET AREAS WITH THE OLDER HOUSING TO IDENTIFY THE POTENTIAL FOR POISONING. WELL, I HAVE TWO HOUSES OLDER THAN 1940, AND, I DON'T KNOW IF IT FOR A PERSON TO HAVE A RENTAL PROPERTY OR NOT RENT TO ANYBODY WHO HAS ANY CHILDREN, THAT WAY THEY WOULDN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH, SOMEBODY GETTING LEAD LEAD POISONING, IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE WORRYING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S WORRIED ABOUT MAKING SURE EVERYBODY'S OKAY. WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF WATCH OVER PEOPLE. SOMETIMES BY EDUCATING PEOPLE. IT REALLY HELPFUL, ALTHOUGH FOR ME, I'VE GOT ONE OF MY HOUSES THAT I PROBABLY RENT IT FOR $1,000 LESS THAN WHAT I CAN BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WERE OLD AND THEY NEED A PLACE. AND I'M ALMOST AT THE POINT NOW I'M JUST GOING TO HAVE TO SELL IT, AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIND A PLACE BECAUSE THERE'S JUST TOO MUCH, YOU KNOW, WITH RENTAL FIND, HAVING SOMEBODY COME IN AND INSPECT YOUR HOUSE AND, AND, AND TELLING YOU THAT YOU'RE NOT DOING ADEQUATE SERVICE TO OTHER PEOPLE, IT'S KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WE GOT A COUPLE PEOPLE HERE WHO HAVE RENTAL PROPERTY, AND HE THINKS ALL THE THINGS WE DO ON RENTAL PROPERTY IS REALLY GOOD. SO I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE REALLY MAKING THINGS BETTER. WHEN YOU TRY TO MAKE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, OUT, LOOK AT GLOUCESTER MANOR AND THINK WE'RE THAT'S, WE'RE IN THE RENTAL BUSINESS AND WE DO, YOU KNOW, GOVERNMENT IS WHAT WE SAY, HEY, LET'S COPY THE GOVERNMENT BECAUSE WE DO A GREAT JOB OF MAKING SURE THAT EVERYBODY WHO LIVES IN ANY FACILITY IS REALLY TAKEN CARE OF. BUT AS I SEE SOME OF THIS STUFF, I DON'T THINK WE'RE DOING VERY GOOD. IT'S ALMOST EMBARRASSING TO THINK HOW WE TREAT OTHER PEOPLE BECAUSE WE'RE THE GOVERNMENT. WE CAN DO IT. AND I DON'T THINK IT'S WRONG. YEAH, AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND LET DECLARATION FORMS HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR WITH REAL ESTATE EXCHANGE OF REAL ESTATE PROPERTY FOR A LONG TIME OR FOR RENTAL PROPERTY. SO THERE'S A FORM THAT , LANDLORDS ARE REQUIRED OR DURING THE SELL OR TRANSFER OF A HOME THAT YOU STATE WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S LEAD PRESENT IN THE HOME, WHETHER IT BE PAINT OR OTHERWISE OR, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE OPTIONS IS, I DON'T KNOW, IT'S NEVER BEEN TESTED OR THE OTHER ONE, YOU KNOW, YES, IT'S THERE. SO THAT'S BEEN A PART OF TRANSACTIONS FOR A LONG TIME. 
          WE'RE JUST TRYING TO ENSURE THAT IT'S SAFE FOR CHILDREN AND THEY DON'T GET, YOU KNOW, RECEIVE THE CONSEQUENCES OF, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERABLE LEARNING DISABILITIES AND, AND MANY OTHER. I'M GOING TO NEED TO INTERRUPT YOU HERE BECAUSE WE NEED TO STAY ON BUDGET. AND IT'S WE'RE WE'RE IN THE POLICY NOW, COUNCILMAN HUDSON. THANK YOU. CHAIR, I'M LOOKING DOWN THE LIST OF BUDGET LINE ITEMS THAT HAD SIGNIFICANT CHANGE. AND ONE THAT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION IS THE MEDICAL SERVICES LINE ITEM, THAT INCREASED 70% FROM, 9 MILLION TO 15 MILLION AND CHANGE AND THE REASON GIVEN WAS, INCREASE DUE TO NEW SUPPLIER SLASH CONTRACT FOR CORRECTIONS, INMATE CARE. 
          YEAH. SO THAT LINE ITEM IS THE MEDICAL SERVICES CONTRACT AT CORRECTIONS. IT IS. IS THERE ADDITIONAL SERVICES BEING GIVEN FOR THAT INCREASE OR IS IT JUST PAYING MORE FOR THE SAME SERVICES, SOME OF THAT, I'M SURE IS DUE TO WHAT WE EXPERIENCED, THE COST OF MEDICAL PROVIDERS. 
          BUT IT IS A NEW CONTRACTOR, I CAN'T SPEAK TO ADDITIONAL CARE THAT'S BEING GIVEN. I'M NOT SURE OF THE EXACT SPECIFICS MYSELF WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE CONTRACT IN FRONT OF ME. BUT THAT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT DID COME WITH SOME ADDITIONAL SERVICES, I BELIEVE, DIRECTOR COLLINS MAY HAVE ADDRESSED SOME OF THAT IN HIS BUDGET HEARING. IN TERMS OF WHAT WERE SOME OF THE NEW SERVICES THAT THEY RECEIVED THROUGH THAT CONTRACT? OKAY. JUST JUST SEEMS LIKE A LARGE INCREASE FOR SAME SERVICES. I THINK, THAT HE TESTIFIED THAT SOME OF THE, PHARMACY ITEMS WERE MOVED OVER. SO WE WERE PAYING THEM, BUT WE WERE PAYING THEM IN A DIFFERENT CONTRACT AND THEY GOT MOVED OVER INTO THEY GOT CONSOLIDATED. COULD BE A CONSOLIDATION. I 
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THINK THAT'S WHAT HE TESTIFIED. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S CORRECT. HEARING I'M SEEING BECAUSE WE ALSO REDUCED THERE WAS SOME LINE ITEMS, SOME OTHER PLACES THAT WERE EXPENDITURES WERE REDUCED BECAUSE OF THAT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAD. CHAIR THANKS, COUNCILMAN ARTHUR. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. IT LOOKS LIKE ONE OF YOUR BUDGET EQUITY GOALS IS TO TRACK SPENDING ON MINORITY VENDORS BY JUNE 20TH, 25. DOES THIS MEAN THAT YOU DON'T CURRENTLY TRACK MINORITY VENDOR SPENDING? YEAH. NO, WE DO NOT. CURRENTLY TRACK MINORITY VENDOR SPENDING. I JUST ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO WORK WITH THE OFFICE OF EQUITY TO GET CONNECTED WITH DEPARTMENTS THAT ALREADY DO THIS AND HAVE BEEN DOING IT. A FINE EXAMPLE IS PUBLIC WORKS, AND OF COURSE YOU ALREADY COLLECT DATA ALL YEAR ROUND ANYWAY, SO I ANTICIPATE YOU'LL BE ABLE TO GET THIS DONE BEFORE THE SUMMER. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN RUY, THANK YOU. AS YOU CAN TELL, I READ I READ YOUR ENTIRE REPORT TODAY. I WAS DOING REALLY GOOD. SO, NEXT QUESTION IS VACANCIES. IT WAS NOTED IN THE REPORT THAT YOU'VE GOT, POSITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN VACANT FOR MULTIPLE YEARS. SO WHAT HAVE YOU TRIED TO DO TO GET THEM FILLED? CERTAINLY. WORKING UNDER A CONTRACT THAT'S COSTING US A WHOLE LOT MORE FOR THE SAME SERVICES, SO WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO TRY AND FILL THESE POSITIONS, PART OF THAT IS WE HAVE CREATED AN AGREEMENT WITH UNIVERSITY OF LOUISVILLE FOR SOME OF THE NURSING SERVICES, FOR THOSE NURSES AND ADVANCED DEGREE PROGRAMS, WE HAVE WE SHARE A ASSOCIATE MEDICAL DIRECTOR. WE ACTUALLY HAVE A CONTRACT. I SHOULDN'T SHARE. WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH NORTONS FOR THEIR, BUT PRIMARILY IT'S THROUGH CONTRACT CONTRACTING SERVICES. 
          SO, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE LOOKING, REALLY, HAPPILY FORWARD TO OUR, ASK ME COLLECTIVE BARGAINING UNIT NEGOTIATIONS TO MAKE SOME CHANGES. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY ABLE TO HIRE FOR THE MAJORITY OF THOSE POSITIONS INSTEAD OF, CONTRACT STAFFING. OKAY, SO YOU'RE HOPING TO BE ABLE TO RAISE WAGES THEN WHEN YOU RENEGOTIATE? YES AND NOT ONLY RAISE WAGES, BUT ALSO CREATES CREATE LEVEL OF IN POSITIONS. SO FOR LIKE AN ENVIRONMENTALIST TO HAVE A ONE AND TWO AND THREE TO BRING SOMEONE IN WHO HAS MORE EXPERIENCE AT A HIGHER LEVEL INSTEAD OF JUST THE MINIMUM RATE OR THE RATE THAT YOU BRING IN, CBA EMPLOYEES, ALONG WITH NURSING OR LABORATORY STAFF, SO CREATING SOME UPWARD MOBILITY OPPORTUNITIES ALONG WITH INCREASED SALARY. SO WHEN DO YOU RENEGOTIATE, WE'RE SCHEDULED TO NEGOTIATE BEGIN IN JULY. OH, OKAY. GOOD. OKAY, NEXT QUESTION THEN I WAS NOTING SOME DIFFERENT LINE ITEMS AND IT SAID YOUR WI-FI AT DIXIE IN NEWBURGH NEEDS TO BE. IT SOUNDED LIKE YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE IT. THAT IS CORRECT. WE'RE ADDING WI-FI TO DIXIE AND NEWBURGH. OKAY SO RIGHT NOW EVERYTHING'S JUST HARDWIRED IN. YOU HAVE TO PLUG INTO THE SYSTEM. YEAH, OKAY. THAT WOULD MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE. AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IS PORTABLE RESTROOMS. WHAT WAS THE THERE'S A LINE ITEM ON THERE ABOUT PORTABLE RESTROOMS. PORTABLE. 
          YEAH. WE HAVE A PORTA POTTY ON OUR SITE FOR, WE'VE EXPERIENCED ISSUES OVER THE YEAR, WITH PEOPLE DEFECATING, IN OUR PARKING LOT BEHIND OUR CARS. SO WE PROVIDE A PORTA POTTY ON SITE. OKAY, SO WHAT SITE SPECIFICALLY DOES THE GRAY STREET 400 EAST GRAY? THE GRAY STREET. OKAY. NOW, ARE WE ARE OFF DURING THE DAYTIME. WE HAVE, FORWARD FACING, RESTROOMS IN OUR FRONT AREA. SO WE DO ALLOW PEOPLE TO USE THOSE RESTROOMS, WE DO HAVE KEEP A LOCK, SO SOMEONE, YOU KNOW, LETS THEM IN AND OUT SO WE DON'T HAVE ONE CAMPING OUT IN OUR RESTROOMS, BUT THEY ARE WELCOME TO USE THOSE AND DO, DURING OUR OPERATING HOURS. BUT AFTER HOURS , WE'VE FOUND A LOT OF MESSES, SO WE PROVIDE THAT RESTROOM. YEAH, I ABSOLUTELY UNDERSTAND. 
          OKAY, NEXT ONE ON PAGE 20. SOMETHING ABOUT CELL SERVICE REDUCTION, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE YOU WERE PAYING MORE FOR CELL SERVICE OVER WHAT WAS BUDGETED ANYWAY. SO CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? YEAH. SO A LOT OF OUR STAFF, WE PROVIDE CELL PHONES, PARTICULARLY FOR FIELD STAFF. SO IF YOU LOOK AT LIKE OUR 31 ENVIRONMENTALISTS WHO DO INSPECTIONS IN THE FIELD, BUT ALSO THOSE, VARIOUS, YOU KNOW, ANYONE DOING OUTREACH WORK INTO THE COMMUNITY AND OTHERWISE. SO I THINK JUST WITH THE INCREASE IN COSTS. BUT I CAN GET SOME MORE SPECIFIC INFORMATION, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE ADDING FOLKS AS FAR AS ADDITIONAL STAFF TO CELL PHONES, BUT I THINK PART OF THAT IS IT WAS UNDER UNDER BUDGETED BEFORE. YEAH. BUT I CAN GET YOU MORE INFORMATION ON CELL 
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PHONES. YES. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY COUNCILWOMAN PARISH. RIGHT. 
          COUNCILMAN KRAMER, THANK YOU, AS I PROCESS OUT THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION ABOUT THE CAPITAL PROJECT FOR LOOKING FOR A NEW FACILITY, IF I UNDERSTOOD YOU CORRECTLY, YOU SAID THAT YOU'D HAD A BIT OF A FLOOD AND THAT YOU USED INSURANCE MONEY TO REPAIR SOME OF THAT DAMAGE, YOU LIKE BEING IN THE PLACE WHERE YOU ARE BECAUSE IT'S CLOSE TO THE HOSPITAL, AND AS WE MOVED AWAY FROM THAT CONVERSATION, I CAN'T HELP BUT WONDER. IT'S ARE YOU IS THERE A DESIRE THEN, TO MOVE, OR WOULD IT BE YOUR PREFERENCE TO, I DON'T KNOW, TEAR THAT BUILDING DOWN AND START OVER OR BUILD A NEW A NEW BUILDING ON THE PARKING LOT SIDE , AND THEN TEAR DOWN WHERE YOU ARE AND CREATE A PARKING LOT THERE. I JUST CAN'T IT DIDN'T SOUND LIKE YOU WERE REALLY TERRIBLY INTERESTED IN MOVING, WHEN WE'VE LOOKED AT THE COSTS IN DOING ALL THE REPAIRS, YOU KNOW, IT'S MULTI MILLION DOLLARS AND, IT WOULD ALMOST BE COSTS EFFECTIVE TO MOVE IS, IS WHAT SOME OF THE, THE PROBLEMS AND A LOT OF THAT'S LISTED UNDER OUR CAPITAL REQUESTS AS FAR AS THE COST OF DOING THAT, JUST FOR INSTANCE, LIKE OUR LABORATORY, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO US IN THE NEXT BUILDING, THE COST FOR, FOR, REPLACING THE HVAC WAS, IS SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS. SO WHEN YOU ADD UP ALL THE COSTS, YOU KNOW, IN, YOU KNOW, OUR REST AGAIN, IN THAT BUILDING PER SE, THERE IS NO RESTROOM ON THE MAIN FLOOR. THE RESTROOM IS IN THE BASEMENT AREA, MAKING OUR RESTROOMS, YOU KNOW, ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYONE. SO JUST THE COST OF DOING ALL OF THAT WORK WHEN YOU ADD THAT UP, YOU COULD BUILD A NEW BUILDING. AND THAT'S WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY. YEAH. MY CONFUSION IS THAT YOU SEEM TO REALLY LIKE WHERE YOU ARE. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT. SO WHAT IS THE HOPE? I MEAN, ARE YOU ARE YOU LOOKING AT MOVING SOMEWHERE AWAY FROM WHERE YOU ARE? WHICH IS NOT WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO DO, BUT BECAUSE THE EXPENSE, YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE A CHOICE? I AGAIN, I THINK I'M HEARING YOU SAY IT'S BEYOND REASONABLE TO THINK THAT YOU COULD ACTUALLY REFURBISH OR FIX THIS UP. I MEAN, AT SOME POINT THE BUILDING JUST ISN'T GOING TO WORK, SO I GUESS NOT PUT TOO FINE A POINT, BUT DO YOU WANT TO TEAR IT DOWN AND START OVER WHERE YOU ARE OR, AND OBVIOUSLY IN STAGES? I DON'T MEAN, YOU KNOW, BUT OR ARE YOU LOOKING TO MOVE? AND THAT'S THE POINT OF THE STUDY. IF WE COULD MOVE OUT INDIVIDUALLY DIFFERENT PORTIONS AND, YOU KNOW, BUILD BACK WHERE WE ARE, THAT WOULD BE , THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC. SO THAT THAT IS THE POINT OF THIS STUDY. WHAT IS OUR BEST OPTION? WHAT'S MOST COST EFFECTIVE? OKAY, OKAY. THANK YOU, AND I WAS LOOKING ON PAGE 109, I'M LOOKING AT THE MEDICAL SERVICES LINE, AND THERE'S A BIT OF A DIFFERENCE THERE IN IN EXPENSE, IN FY 22, IT WAS 9 MILLION. 148, I THINK THE REVISED WAS 9 MILLION. 156, THIS YEAR YOUR PROPOSED IS 15 MILLION. CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? YEAH, THAT IS THE MEDICAL SERVICES FOR HEALTH SERVICES AT CORRECTIONS. SO THAT IS WHAT THAT CONTRACT RELATES TO. THERE WAS AN INCREASE IN THAT CONTRACT THIS YEAR, OF $6,000,896. AND 96 700. SO WHICH IS ALMOST EXACTLY. YEAH, IT PRETTY MUCH COVERS IT. SO OKAY. 
          SO IT'S AN INCREASE IN THE CONTRACT THEN. YEAH. SO THAT IS FOR HEALTH SERVICES AT CORRECTIONS OKAY. THANK YOU COUNCILMAN. EXCUSE ME. COUNCILMAN ARTHUR. HE WAS THERE. 
          RIGHT HE WAS. HE'S NOT THERE ANYMORE. HE MADE SURE I DON'T HAVE ANYONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE. 
          UPDATE. NO ONE ELSE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, MITCHELL TECH, AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN SWITCH OUT. THANK YOU. 
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LET'S, CALL US BACK TO ORDER, RICK BLACKWELL, THE CHAIR OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE. AND WITH ME IS MY VICE CHAIR. COUNCILMAN KRAMER. ALSO, WE HAVE, COUNCIL, OR COMMITTEE MEMBERS PERISH, RIGHT? VIRTUALLY COUNCILWOMAN MCCRANEY, VIRTUALLY. COUNCILMAN RENO WEBER AND CHAMBERS. 
          COUNCILMAN OWEN VIRTUALLY. COUNCILWOMAN FOWLER VIRTUALLY. COUNCILWOMAN PARKER IN CHAMBERS. 
          COUNCILMAN PIAGENTINI IN CHAMBERS. COUNCILMAN HUDSON IN CHAMBERS. ALSO OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT. PRESENT. COUNCILWOMAN ROY PRESENT. COUNCILMAN BENSON IN CHAMBERS. 
          COUNCILMAN HAWKINS IN CHAMBERS, AND COUNCILMAN SAM AND COUNCILMAN CHAPPELL ARE, VIRTUAL. WE NEED TO READ THE STATEMENT AGAIN OR. NO. NOPE. WE'RE GOOD, REMINDER, WE WON'T MAKE AN OPENING STATEMENT FROM METRO TECHNOLOGY SERVICES, WE ARE HERE. WE WILL BEGIN IMMEDIATELY TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THEIR PROPOSED $30.7 MILLION OPERATING BUDGET AND $3.5 MILLION CAPITAL BUDGET, AGAIN, THERE ARE SOME SYSTEM CONVERSION ISSUES THAT MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO COMPARE THIS YEAR WITH 20 TO 20 3 OR 2024. I WOULD SO WE HAVE, I'LL START OFF WITH A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS HERE. SO WE HAVE, METRO, THE BUDGET INCLUDES 186,000 FOR TWO NEW POSITIONS. INFORMATION SYSTEM ARCHITECT AND FULL STACK ENGINEER. CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THOSE POSITIONS? NOT THAT WE DON'T ALL KNOW WHAT A FULL STACK ENGINEER IS, BUT, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THOSE POSITIONS AND WHY WHY THEY'RE NEEDED IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET. ABSOLUTELY SO, CHRIS SITE, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR METRO TECHNOLOGY SERVICES, THE TWO POSITIONS THAT WE REQUESTED ARE WITHIN OUR DIGITAL SERVICES DIVISION, THAT TEAM IS TASKED WITH MAINTAINING THE PUBLIC WEBSITE AND OTHER ENTERPRISE FACING APPLICATIONS, SUCH AS OUR SHAREPOINT AND THINGS THAT ARE INTERNAL, BUT ALSO THINGS THAT DEAL WITH THE PUBLIC, I INCLUDED IN MY, PACKET THIS YEAR THAT THERE WAS A NEW, COMPLIANCE, RULE THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE SUBJECT TO ABOUT A YEAR FROM NOW, IT'S THE ADA'S UPDATE TO PUBLIC WEBSITES, AND WE'RE ANTICIPATING A VERY LARGE PROJECT IN FY 26, THAT WILL BE SIGNIFICANT IN TERMS OF THE CHANGES WE NEED TO MAKE TO THE WAY THAT WE DO OUR PUBLIC WEBSITE. SO IT'S MORE ACCESSIBLE. SO THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN THE PLANNING PHASE TO GET READY FOR THAT PROJECT. AND WE'LL COME BACK WITH AN ACTUAL FUNDING PLAN FOR THAT IN FY 26 TO IMPLEMENT THOSE CHANGES. SO IT'S, ADDING CAPACITY TO OUR TEAM RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE ENOUGH STAFF TO KIND OF KEEP THE WEBSITE GOING AS IT IS, BUT TAKING ON A PROJECT OF THAT SIZE AND SCALE WITH NO ADDITIONAL RESOURCES WOULD BE INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT. SO THIS IS KIND OF THE, PRE-EMPLOYMENT FOR GETTING THAT PROJECT JUMP STARTED. THAT'S CORRECT, WITHOUT THAT, WE WOULD LIKELY NEED TO ASK FOR FUNDS FOR SOME CONTRACT ASSISTANCE TO HELP US, BECAUSE WE JUST SIMPLY LACK THE CAPACITY TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ON A LARGE, SYSTEM WIDE UPGRADE LIKE THAT. OKAY. AND I THINK, AT ONE POINT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THE, WITH 
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THE CAPITAL, AND I'M NOT SURE WHICH PART IT IS THAT THAT THE UPGRADES IN THE, THE, THE CAMERAS, WI-FI AND CAMERAS AND THE PARKS AND COMMUNITY CENTERS, IS THAT WHAT PART CAN YOU DIRECT ME TO WHERE THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED? SO THE ENHANCED NETWORK INFRASTRUCTURE AND CYBER SECURITY KNOW THAT THAT CAPITAL PROJECT IS SLATED FOR, THINGS THAT ARE INTERNAL TO METRO. THE PARKS WI-FI, PROJECT, WAS ARP FUNDS, AND SOME CAPITAL FUNDS THAT WERE ALLOCATED TO PARKS IN FY 24. SO THEY STILL HAVE SOME FUNDS, STILL. SO THIS IS THAT'S STILL FINISHING UP FROM THIS YEAR'S BUDGET. THAT'S CORRECT. OUR FUNDS OKAY. GOTCHA. SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION. NO, NO. MY CONFUSION. LET'S SEE IF I GET SOMEONE IN THE QUEUE, TO, COUNCILMAN KRAMER. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, IF YOU COULD SPEAK JUST A LITTLE BIT TO THE $250,000, FOR CONTRACTORS, IS THAT GOING TO BE A AN ANNUAL CONTINUING EXPENSE, OR IS THAT JUST A WILL THE CONTRACTS COME IN AND TAKE CARE OF SOME THINGS? AND I WOULD EXPECT THAT THAT MIGHT BE AN ONGOING EXPENSE FOR US. WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF AGENCIES APPROACH US WITH REQUESTS TO SUPPORT NEW APPLICATIONS, AND AS I'VE MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, THESE ARE. NET NEW APPLICATIONS THAT DIDN'T EXIST IN OUR ENVIRONMENT UP UNTIL THE LAST YEAR OR SO. AND WE'RE BEING HIT ALMOST DAILY WITH THESE REQUESTS TO PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR THESE, SO THESE POSITIONS WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF THOSE APPLICATIONS THAT AGENCIES HAVE ALREADY STARTED ADOPTING. OKAY. THANK YOU, I'LL CLICK OUT AND CLICK BACK IN. SPEAKING OF TECHNOLOGY, I'M NOT. THIS ISN'T UPDATING ON ITS OWN. 
          SO I THINK WE HAD THIS HAPPEN LAST YEAR DURING MY HEARING. IT DOES? YEAH. IT'S FUNNY. JUST HAPPENS WHEN YOU'RE HERE. COUNCILMAN WEBER, FIRST OFF, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND FOR ALL OF THE CONTINUED SUPPORT YOU PROVIDE TO THE DIFFERENT SPOTS OF THE ORGANIZATION. CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO HOW YOU WERE THINKING ABOUT SOME OF THE CHANGING LANDSCAPE OF TECHNOLOGY AND WHERE IN THIS WE'RE SEEING SOME OF YOUR, YOU KNOW, THOUGHTS AND PREPARATIONS AROUND, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH AI AND AUTOMATION, AND THERE MIGHT BE SOME REAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR US IN THAT, THERE'S ABSOLUTELY OPPORTUNITY IN ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. SO I THINK WE'RE KIND OF AT THAT INFANCY STAGE RIGHT NOW WITH THE TECHNOLOGY, I THINK THAT HAVING THESE NEW POSITIONS IN THAT TEAM WILL SPECIFICALLY, HELP US TO FOCUS IN THOSE AREAS. WE'RE ALREADY DOING SOME WORK, WE'VE GOT SOME PILOTS GOING ON WITHIN METRO ALREADY TO TEST THE TECHNOLOGIES AND SEE HOW THEY MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL TO BOTH INTERNAL AGENCY USE AS WELL AS PROVIDING SERVICES, HOPEFULLY IN THE LONG TERM, TO THE PUBLIC, WHERE THEY COULD INTERACT WITH ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE AND GET, EASIER ANSWERS TO INFORMATION, MAYBE WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE TODAY, EFFICIENCIES COULD BE FOUND ACROSS METRO AS WELL, JUST BY HAVING IT ANALYZED LARGE VOLUMES OF DATA AND PROVIDE US WITH RECOMMENDATIONS AND POTENTIAL PLANS MOVING FORWARD. SO WE'RE STILL CRAFTING THE, POLICY FOR THE USE OF THAT. AND WE'RE SEEING USAGE ACROSS THE METRO WORKFORCE ALREADY, WITH THE FREE SERVICES, WHICH IS SLIGHTLY CONCERNING FROM A CYBERSECURITY STANDPOINT, IF YOU'RE USING CHATGPT AS AN EXAMPLE, BY DEFAULT, THE LANGUAGE LEARNING MODEL IS TURNED ON, WHICH MEANS THAT YOU'RE SHARING YOUR INFORMATION WITH THEM, AND THAT CAN BE PROBLEMATIC IN TERMS OF, IF WE'RE USING ANY WORK CONTENT THAT MIGHT NOT BE PUBLIC DOMAIN AT THAT POINT. SO WE'RE WORKING TO TRY TO COME UP WITH BETTER OPTIONS FOR THAT, AND I THINK WE'LL HAVE THAT POLICY, UPDATED WITHIN THE MTS ACCEPTABLE USE POLICIES HERE VERY SOON. ONE OF THE PANELS I WAS ON THERE REFERRED TO THAT AS THE SECRET CYBORG. AND THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE USING ALL OF THIS STUFF. BUT THEY'RE DOING IT ON THEIR PRIVATE, YOU KNOW, COMPUTERS OR WHATEVER. AND THEN THEY'RE BRINGING THAT BACK TO WORK. BUT THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT , YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE YOU BEING PROACTIVE ABOUT THAT. IT'S DEFINITELY HAPPENING. AND, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE THEN NOT DISCOURAGE THAT? WE JUST NEED TO DO IT IN A WAY THAT IS RESPONSIBLE AND SORT OF LET THERE BE PILOTS OF, OH, I WANT TO TRY THIS AND EXPERIMENT AND, YOU KNOW, CORDON OFF WHAT THE RULES ARE FOR THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN YOU TALK TO BIG TECH COMPANIES ABOUT THIS. THEY'RE LIKE, OH, IT IS ACTUALLY IT IS AMAZING HOW EVERYONE'S SELF-EVALUATIONS IN OUR HR SYSTEM GOT TO BE SO MUCH BETTER THIS YEAR. THEY REALLY SOUND LIKE THEY'RE WRITTEN IN A BEAUTIFUL STYLE. BUT THERE'S ALSO REALLY INTERESTING EQUITY IMPLICATIONS FOR PEOPLE FOR WHOM ENGLISH IS NOT THEIR FIRST LANGUAGE. AND USING CHATBOT ENABLES THEM TO FEEL CONFIDENT IN THEIR GRAMMAR, WHICH DRASTICALLY INCREASES THEIR WORK ABILITIES, AND REDUCES THE BARRIERS THAT COME FROM THAT. 
          SO, I MEAN, I'M EXCITED ABOUT YOU CONTINUING TO WORK ON THAT. AND PLEASE KNOW THAT YOU'VE GOT 
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SOME ADVOCATES AROUND HOW WE DO THAT IN A RESPONSIBLE AND EQUITABLE MANNER. APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT. COUNCILWOMAN CHAPPELL. HELLO. REGARDING YOUR ORGANIZATIONAL CHART, I HOPE, I THINK I'M LOOKING AT THE CORRECT THING, AND IF SO, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GO WITH A C MINUS JUST BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A LITTLE TOO SIMPLIFIED. I ALSO THINK, AS I COUNTED, THERE'S ONLY 14 OUT OF 71 OF YOUR POSITIONS THAT ARE REPRESENTED ON THE ORGANIZATIONAL CHART. AND, BECAUSE OF ITS OVERSIMPLIFICATION, IT'S LACKING CLARITY ON YOUR VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS WITHIN YOUR DEPARTMENT. SO, FIRST QUESTION, SINCE YOU'RE, HIRING THAT NEW PERSON THAT'LL BE WORKING ON OUR WEBSITE, DOES THAT MEAN IT'LL BE BETTER AND MORE? THE INFORMATION WILL BE UP TO DATE. SO CONTENT MANAGEMENT TODAY IS CURRENTLY, APPROPRIATED TO THE DEPARTMENTS. 
          SO THEY HAVE AGENCY CONTENT AUTHORS TO PROVIDE UPDATES TO INFORMATION THAT'S ON THE SITE. 
          WE DO HAVE SOMEONE WITHIN MTS THAT PROVIDES TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE ON THAT AND CAN HELP PEOPLE WITH IDEATION IF THEY NEED THAT, IN TERMS OF THE UPDATES TO THE DATA, THOUGH, THAT'S OFTENTIMES AN AGENCY PROVIDE THE CONTENT FOR THEIR DEPARTMENT. AND THEY KNOW THAT INFORMATION BETTER THAN WE EVER COULD, AND THE WORK THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING IS MORE ARCHITECTURAL IN NATURE. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT, THE SEARCHABILITY OF THE SITE, COUNCILWOMAN MARINA WEBBER TALKED ABOUT LANGUAGE ACCESS. WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO PROVIDE MORE ACCESSIBILITY FOR MULTIPLE LANGUAGES. WE HAVE SOME TRANSLATION SERVICES TODAY, BUT WHAT WILL COME INTO PLAY WITH THE NEW REGULATIONS IS REALLY AROUND, DOCUMENTS AND FORMS THAT ARE LOADED TO THE SITE THAT MIGHT ONLY BE WRITTEN IN ENGLISH TODAY, THAT DON'T CONVERT WELL BECAUSE THEY'RE IN PDF OR OTHER FORMATS, WE'LL BE LOOKING TO PROVIDE SYSTEMS THAT GIVE US MORE FLEXIBILITY TO PROVIDE THAT IN MULTIPLE LANGUAGE, ACCESS. 
          AND THEN, OF COURSE, WITH, SCREEN READERS AND OTHER TYPES OF COMPATIBILITY THAT THAT WILL NEED TO, TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE NEW ADA REGULATIONS, AS IF THERE WERE TO BE THAT PERSON THAT, EVEN THOUGH EACH DEPARTMENT HAD ITS ABILITY TO GO IN AND MAKE SURE THAT THE INFORMATION WAS ON THEIR PAGE AS THEY SEE FIT, THAT'S ALSO TASKING NON TECHNOLOGICALLY SAVVY PEOPLE WITH THAT TASK, AND IT ALSO LEADS TO A LOT OF, A LOT OF DIFFERENT STYLES, A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT THE THAT INFORMATION IS BEING DISTRIBUTED . AND SO IS THERE A PERSON ANYWHERE WITHIN LOUISVILLE METRO OR METRO TECHNOLOGY SERVICES THAT, LOOKS AT THE ENTIRE WEBSITE, YOU KNOW, LIKE SEES THE FOREST THROUGH THE TREES AND IS ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT'S BEING PROVIDED IS UNIFORM. THE LINKS ARE WORKING CORRECTLY, THE CTAS ARE WHERE THEY NEED TO BE, AND THAT IT'S A MORE USER FRIENDLY WEBSITE, AND I ALSO ASK THAT FROM A STANDPOINT OF IT'S NOT USER FRIENDLY FROM THE FRONT END OR THE BACK END. AND SO I HAVE A REAL THORN IN MY SIDE ABOUT THE WEBSITE, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY GREAT IF THERE WAS SOMEBODY THAT TOOK OWNERSHIP OF IT. AND WAS ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS UNIFORM ACROSS ALL DEPARTMENTS. AND WE DO WE DO STRIVE FOR UNIFORMITY, IT IS DIFFICULT WITH 41 AGENCIES, PLUS COUNCIL, PLUS, THE VOLUME OF DATA THAT IS STORED WITHIN THAT IT IS DIFFICULT. I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE DON'T HAVE BROKEN WEB LINKS AND THINGS THAT ARE DIFFICULT TO FIND, BECAUSE I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY ARE, I'M NOT SURE THAT THE ONE PERSON THAT I HAVE IN MTS THAT'S ALLOCATED TO THAT WORK COULD EVER FIND ALL OF THOSE THINGS, IN THE 40 HOURS A WEEK THAT I CAN, CAN, CAN PUT THEM ON THAT. ALWAYS HAPPY TO EXPLORE, MORE RESOURCES FOR THAT. IF WE FEEL THAT THAT'S, SOMETHING THAT IS IMPORTANT, BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY SITUATED TO HANDLE TODAY. SURE. MAYBE A CONVERSATION FOR US TO HAVE IN THE FUTURE. BUT MY LAST QUESTION, YOUR CLOUD COMPUTING SERVICES DECREASED BY $50,000. CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT DECREASE? SO WE WENT THROUGH, OUR SYSTEM, RECENTLY AND FOUND SOME EFFICIENCIES. WE SHUT DOWN SOME LEGACY SYSTEMS, THE PROBLEM WITH CLOUD SERVICES IS THEY'LL RUN AS LONG AS YOU LET THEM RUN, AND SO IN AN AUDIT OF THAT, WE FOUND SEVERAL SYSTEMS THAT WERE ABLE TO BE RETIRED. AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO SEE THAT REDUCE ACCORDINGLY. AWESOME. THANK YOU FOR THAT. COUNCILMAN KRAMER. 
          THANK YOU. I WANTED TO GO BACK AND JUST REAL QUICK, THE INNOVATION IMPROVEMENT COORDINATOR POSITION WAS IS ON YOUR CHART LAST YEAR. IT'S NOT THERE THIS YEAR. DOES THAT MEAN WE DON'T HAVE A PERSON IN THAT POSITION OR. I'M SORRY, DID WE DO AWAY WITH THAT POSITION OR OR IS THERE A REASON WE OVERLOOKED HIM OR HER? I THINK THAT WAS, REMOVED WHEN WE CONSOLIDATED, WE WERE PREVIOUSLY CIVIC INNOVATION AND TECHNOLOGY, AND I BELIEVE DURING THAT TRANSITION PERIOD, WE WHEN WE BECAME EMTS, THAT WAS REMOVED FROM OUR. OKAY. SO WE REMOVED THAT POSITION. OKAY. 
          GOOD. THANKS. OH, HERE IT IS ON PAGE 130. OF THE BUDGET BOOK. THE EXECUTIVE, THE RECOMMENDED 
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DETAIL, IT SAYS TRANSFER BETWEEN DEPARTMENTS $100,000. IS THAT AM I UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY THAT THAT TRANSFER IS THE PRC TRANSFER? DID I DID I READ THAT RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY, GOOD. I THOUGHT THAT'S WHERE THAT WAS, AND THEN, I WAS WONDERING IF, IF YOU COULD TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROJECTS THAT YOU GUYS AND THE CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT YOU GUYS ANTICIPATE FINISHING IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET? I'M LOOKING AT THERE ARE SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN ONGOING, THAT HAVE REMAINING BALANCES. FOR EXAMPLE, THERE IS A 100, THERE'S 16,953 LEFT IN METRO TV UPGRADES, THERE'S 101,000 PLUS, THAT IS LEFT IN THE LOUISVILLE FIBER FIBER INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY. THERE'S 2 MILLION, 2.6 MILLION IN COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH, YOU KNOW, I I'LL DO ONE MORE. SO GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS FOR COMPLETED. OKAY. SO CAN YOU SPEAK TO YOUR AND THERE'S ALSO AND THIS IS JUST A BECAUSE SOMEBODY SHOULD SAY IT OUT LOUD, YOUR DEPEE INFO SERVICES EQUIPMENT FUND, YOU HAVE A BALANCE OF $0.18. I'M SURE WE'LL WIPE THAT OFF SOMEHOW, SO CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO THOSE CAPITAL PROJECTS FOR ME? YEAH THE DEEP INFO FUND IS, IS A FUND THAT USUALLY IF WE HAVE ANY REMAINING FUNDS FROM OUR OPERATING BUDGET IN THE CURRENT YEAR, WOULD CARRY FORWARD TO THE NEXT ONE THAT GOES INTO A CAPITAL ACCOUNT TO ALLOW US TO CATCH UP ON, DEFERRED MAINTENANCE WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION. SO IF IT'S REPLACING NETWORK DEVICES OR SERVERS OR WIRELESS EQUIPMENT, THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD WOULD LOOK TO USE THOSE FUNDS, THE $0.18, I GUESS, IS A ROUNDING ISSUE THAT CAN BE WIPED OUT THERE, IN TERMS OF THE COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH AND RECORDS MANAGEMENT PROJECT. 
          THE THIRD COMPONENT TO THAT WAS THE REPLACEMENT OF THE JAIL MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT THAT PROJECT WILL LAUNCH, SOMETIME THIS SUMMER. COULD BE AS EARLY AS THIS MONTH, BUT, AS WITH ANY TECHNOLOGY PROJECT, I'LL PUT AN ASTERISK BY THAT AND SAY THAT IT MIGHT BE, BY AUGUST WOULD BE MY REASONABLE TAKE ON THAT, THERE WILL BE MILESTONE PAYMENTS DUE FOR THAT ONCE THAT PROJECT REACHES ITS LAUNCH, THERE ARE ADDITIONAL MILESTONE PAYMENTS THAT ARE OWED STILL TO, THE CAD VENDOR AND THE MBS VENDOR FOR FINAL PAYMENTS. SO THOSE FUNDS SHOULD DRAW DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY. I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT THAT PROJECT SHOULD CLOSE OUT BY EARLY 2025, CALENDAR YEAR 2025. I DON'T THINK THAT THOSE FUNDS WILL STILL BE THERE BY THE TIME WE GET TO THE HEARING IN 26. OKAY, CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO YOUR JUST GENERAL REVENUE BUDGET LINE IS INCREASING BY QUITE A BIT. HALF MILLION PLUS FOR MISCELLANEOUS SERVICES, CONSULTING SERVICES IS INCREASING ABOUT 75,700 SOFTWARE SHARING AGREEMENT IS INCREASING BY 129,000. CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO LIKE, WHY ARE WE SEEING THOSE KINDS OF INCREASES? SO THE MISCELLANEOUS ISCTUALLY A, I THINK, A SYSTEM CONVERSION ISSUE. SO MANY OF THE INCREASES THAT WE'RE SEEING, ARE RELATED TO OUR MICROSOFT AGREEMENTS AND OTHER, SAAS PRODUCTS THAT WE HAVE TO PAY RENEWALS ON. WE TYPICALLY WILL RENEW THOSE IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF THE FISCAL YEAR, AND, AND SO THOSE ARE INCREASING, VERY SIGNIFICANTLY IN MANY CASES. MICROSOFT NEARLY HAS A MONOPOLY ON THE OFFICE PRODUCTIVITY SUITE. SO WE'RE SOMEWHAT HELD CAPTIVE TO THAT UNLESS WE'RE WILLING TO GO THROUGH SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES, WE ALSO SEE ANNUAL INCREASES FOR, PRODUCTS LIKE WEBEX, WHICH IS HELPING TO FACILITATE THIS MEETING, DOCUSIGN, WHICH IS USED ACROSS METRO ORGANIZATIONS. SO THOSE ARE ALL INCREASES THAT WE TYPICALLY WILL SEE A 5 TO 10% INCREASE ON THOSE, AND IN ANY GIVEN YEAR. OKAY. AND THEN I'M CHECKING THE QUEUE JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M NOT SEEING, FOLKS TIME SINCE THERE'S NO ONE WILL PROCEED. I'M ALSO LOOKING AT THE MAYOR'S LONG TERM CAPITAL INVESTMENT PLAN. AND WHAT HE'S HOPING TO ACCOMPLISH WITH YOU GUYS. LET ME TALK ABOUT THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERING IMPROVEMENT FOR 7.5 AND PERMITTING REPLACEMENT FOR 8.25, WEBSITE OVERHAUL AND EYE ENHANCEMENTS FOR 1.4, IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL COST TO PROJECT 55 CUSTOMER RELATIONSHIP MANAGEMENT, THAT ARE LISTED UP HERE? SO WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE FULL RFP PROCESS, ONCE WE GET THIS PROJECT KICKED OFF, AND I ANTICIPATE THAT WE'LL COME BACK FOR A SECOND ROUND OF FUNDING. 
          THAT NUMBER IS YET TO BE DETERMINED, THE FIRST PHASE OF THIS WILL BE DOING AN ASSESSMENT OF THE OVERALL TOOLS THAT ARE PRESENT WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION. WE HAVE, A SCATTERING OF PRODUCTS USED FOR CRM, HUBSPOT, SALESFORCE SLA. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PLATFORMS THAT ARE IN USE ACROSS THE GOVERNMENT, AND ALL OF THEM SEEM TO BE SOMEWHAT TIED TO THAT SPECIFIC USE CASE. 
          AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR TOOLS THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO MORE BROADLY HELP CONNECT METRO INFORMATION IN A WAY THAT'S USEFUL FOR THE PUBLIC, SO THAT WHEN THEY HAVE A PROBLEM ON OUR WEBSITE, THAT 
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IT'S EASY TO SUBMIT, THAT INFORMATION TO US, AND IT GETS TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE AND THEY GET THE UPDATES THAT THEY WANT. BUT IF I HAD TO KIND OF GIVE A VISION FOR THAT, IF YOU ALL HAVE EVER ORDERED PIZZA FROM DOMINO'S PIZZA, THEY HAVE THE PIZZA TRACKER, RIGHT? AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE METRO SERVICES WHEN PEOPLE SUBMIT THEIR INFORMATION TO US TO GET TO A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN SEE THEIR ORDER GOING ALL THE WAY THROUGH UNTIL IT'S COMPLETED, AND RIGHT NOW THAT'S REALLY DIFFICULT FOR US TO DO. I THINK IT'S DIFFICULT FOR THE PUBLIC TO INTERACT WITH THOSE TOOLS, AND WE WANT TO MAKE IT BETTER. SO THAT'S THE PUBLIC FACING SIDE OF IT. THERE ARE HOPEFULLY A LOT OF GAINS IN TERMS OFHE DATA COLLECTION AND INFORMATION THAT WE'LL HAVE ON THE INSIDE, BUT THAT'S REALLY, OUR STRONG PUSH IS TO TRY TO IMPROVE THE CITIZEN EXPERIENCE AND THE AND THE EXPERIENCE FOR THE METRO EMPLOYEES THAT ARE HAVING TO WORK WITH THAT INFORMATION. HOW HOW SOON DO YOU THINK YOU'LL HAVE A HANDLE ON WHAT THOSE EXPENSES MIGHBE AND WHAT WE MIGHT BE LOOKING AT? AND I WOULD ANTICIPATE BY THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR, WE SHOULD HAVE THAT INFORMATION. GREAT. THANK YOU. MAKE SURE I DON'T HAVE ANYONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE. 
          LET'S SEE. ANYONE ELSE. I OUGHT MAYBE THE PIZZA ANALOGY MIGHT BRING A QUESTION OR TWO, BUT IT IS DINNER TIME. MAYBE THAT'S WHY IT ISN' BNG QU OR NY OTHER? I N'TEE ANYONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GREAT. THANK YOU. WE WILL, TAKE A BREAK HERE BECAUSE PHILANTHROPY'S PHILANTHROPY ISN'T SUPPOSED TO BE HERE UNTIL SIX, ANTICIPATE THEM GETTING HERE EARLIER THAN THAT. WE WILL. WE WILL TEXT THEM. YES, WE WILL DO THAT. BUT IN THE MEANTIME, LET'S, I DON'T THINK THEY'LL GET HERE BEFORE 530, SO LET'S, RECONVENE AT 530. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. METRO TV. OH, DISREGARD. 
          OH, NO. I CAME OUT THERE. OKAY ON THE INSIDE, WE GO ON THE FRONT. PRESSMAN. COUNCILMAN BLAKE PRESTON. SO HE'S OVER ALL OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND OPERATIONS. SO HE DOES ALL THE PUBLIC WI-FI, THE CAMERAS. IT'S ABOUT 1:00. JUST ASKING. SO WE'RE DOING WI-FI. OKAY, IT'S ON OUR RADAR. OKAY SO WE'LL WE'LL DO THAT. ONE. OH, OKAY. SO I'M HAPPY TO PASS. OKAY. BUT BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE I SAW IT. THERE WE GO. YEAH. WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU. IT'S ALWAYS EASY FOR US TO GET POWER OVER THERE. THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING OF THE WHOLE THING. IF THEY PUT POWER ON THE POLES WERE GOOD. SO IT'S LIT? YEAH. EVERYTHING'S LIT. WELL IT'S NOT LIT YET, BUT THEY'VE GOT POLES THERE AS WELL. WELL NO. STILL LIKE I MEAN, THOSE THINGS ARE STILL TENSE, YOU KNOW, LIKE. YES, EXACTLY. I SAY POWER WORKING WITH THE. 
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COUNCIL. OH AND. THEN I HAVE MY TEAM UP WITH ME NOW, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A PERSON TO KIND OF DO 
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THAT, THAT'S FINE. WELL, IT'S JUST IF THERE'S ANY FINANCIAL QUESTIONS, I'LL HOP UP AND GO OVER THERE. OH, NO. I WANT I WANT YOU TO. I'M JUST THINKING IT'S TOO MANY CHAIRS, LIKE, OKAY, ALL RIGHT. HERE HE CAN WHISPER TO ME AND I'LL SIT BACK BEHIND. IF YOU WANT SOMEONE UP HERE, YOU SIT THERE, OKAY? NO, I GOT MY LAPTOP. I THINK JUST. HOW'S IT GOING? OKAY. THANK YOU. 
          ARE YOU LEAVING? OH, IT'S NOT BECAUSE OF ME. OKAY AM I ON RIGHT NOW? NO, IT'S GREEN. 
          NO. YEAH. WE'RE WORKING. I KNOW YOU ARE. YOU UP? HERE. THANK YOU. GOOD LUCK. 
          PLEASE COME. 
          JOANIE'S BREAKFAST. OKAY SHOULD WE INTRODUCE OURSELVES? OKAY. FIRST. 
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SO YOU KNOW. I'M. IT'S FUNNY. I WAS. I ONLY KNOW. 229601. OH! CAN I TRY TO CUT? YEAH, ESPECIALLY THE FIRST OF ALL, I KNOW. SOME OF. I WAS LIKE, NOPE. DID YOU GIVE HIM MY NUMBER? I JUST CAME ON TUESDAY. SAID I JUST. 
          COME HERE. THANK YOU. THAT WAS THE DERBY VERSUS. YEAH. 
          THERE WERE THREE. DIFFERENT. NOW WE JUST. REGISTERED YEAH. WE DIDN'T CHANGE THE DATE OF THE CHARTER. WE. 
          CUT OUR OWN. 
          OKAY. OH, THANK YOU. THIS IS GREAT. YEAH, BECAUSE WE WERE DEFINITELY THE ONES. 
          METRO TV. I'D LIKE TO GET STARTED AGAIN IN ONE MINUTE, PLEASE. WE'RE GOOD. OKAY. WE 
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TRIED, AND WE. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO CALL BACK. CALL US BACK IN SESSION HERE. WE ARE, A LITTLE BIT AHEAD OF TIME, BUT WE ARE JOINED, AND WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING EARLY BY THE OFFICE OF PHILANTHROPY. AND WITH ME, I AM THE BUDGET CHAIR, RICK BLACKWELL, VICE CHAIR KEVIN KRAMER WILL BE JOINING US IN A SECOND, ALSO, WE HAVE COMMITTEE MEMBER OWEN HAS JOINED VIRTUALLY . AND COUNCILWOMAN, FOWLER IS ALSO JOINED VIRTUALLY. ALSO, COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL IS VIRTUAL IN THE, ALSO IN THE CHAMBERS. WE HAVE, COUNCILWOMAN, PARKER. COUNCILWOMAN PIACENTINI, COUNCILMAN HUDSON AND COUNCILWOMAN COUNCILWOMAN VINSON AND COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS. I THINK I'VE GOT ONE, JUST A REMINDER THAT WE'LL BEGIN RIGHT AWAY WITH QUESTIONS, AND ALSO TO REMIND, COUNCIL MEMBERS TO CLICK, OFF OF THE METRO TECHNOLOGY SERVICES AND ON TO OFFICE OF PHILANTHROPY SO THAT YOU WHEN YOU CLICK, YOU'LL ACTUALLY BE IN THE QUEUE, I'D LIKE TO START, JUST WITH ONE OF THE BIG PROJECTS THAT'S IN FRONT OF US, THE THREE BY FIVE. AND SO IF YOU COULD, I'M SURE YOU ANTICIPATED QUESTIONS ON ON THAT. IF YOU COULD JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, THE, THE STAGES. AND, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP THAT WILL, ADDRESS THIS THIS VITAL NEED THAT WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND. YES. AND JUST, WAS INVOLVED WITH BINGHAM FELLOWS WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT THIS WAS AND WHAT A BARRIER IT WAS TO EMPLOYMENT BY A LARGE SEGMENT OF OUR, OF OUR POPULATION. AND SO IF YOU WOULD JUST TOUCH ON YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH EVERY DETAIL BUT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT, WHAT THE THIS PARTICULAR EXPENDITURE. SO KEEPING ON BUDGET, WHAT THIS PARTICULAR EXPENDITURE DOES FOR US IN TERMS OF MOVING THAT FORWARD. SURE. 
          GOOD EVENING. I'M MARIANA BERZON, I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF PHILANTHROPY. AND NEXT TO ME IS LEANNE FRENCH, WHO IS IN THE OFFICE OF PHILANTHROPY, IS ALSO DIRECTOR OF EARLY CHILDHOOD, SO. SO THE THRIVE BY FIVE LOUISVILLE IS, A SEPARATE 500 AND 1C3 THAT'S SEPARATE FROM LOUISVILLE METRO GOVERNMENT, SEPARATE FROM JCPS AND HEAD START. AND IT'S INVESTING IN AND STRENGTHENING EARLY CHILD CARE. AND CHILD CARE FACILITIES AND PRESCHOOLS, INCLUDING PRIVATE AND NONPROFIT, IT WILL BE A PASS THROUGH OF FUNDS TO WORK ON, STRENGTHENING THE CHILD CARE ECOSYSTEM, STARTING WITH, RECRUITING AND RETRAINING THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, AS WELL AS MARKETING AND, IMPROVING EXISTING FACILITIES THAT WILL BE PHASE ONE. PHASE TWO GOES INTO, FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE FOR FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN, FOUR YEAR OLDS WHO ARE MAKING LESS THAN 300% OF THE FEDERAL POVERTY LEVEL. DO YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING ELSE ABOUT? AND IT WAS AND IT WE PUT THIS PLAN, THIS IMPLEMENTATION PLAN TOGETHER, WITH THE WE CONVENED A GROUP, THE MAYOR CONVENED THE MAYOR'S EARLY LEARNING ACTION GROUP, WHICH WAS 23 CHILD CARE EXPERTS, FROM JEFFERSON COUNTY THAT MET, EVERY OTHER WEEK FOR TWO HOURS, FOR SIX MONTHS TO CREATE THIS PLAN TOGETHER, TAKING IN ALL THE DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF WHAT WOULD WORK TO EXPAND QUALITY EARLY LEARNING CHILD CARE IN JEFFERSON COUNTY. AND I WOULD SAY, IN ADDITION TO THAT, I'M SORRY, LEANNE FRENCH, IN ADDITION TO WHAT MARIANA WAS SAYING, THAT THE FOCUS REALLY CLEARLY FROM THE COMMUNITY PARTNERS, THIS GROUP, MAYORS EARLY LEARNING ACTION GROUP EARLY ON WAS WORK WITH WHO'S HERE SUPPORT EXISTING CENTERS. THIS IS NOT ABOUT CREATING SOMETHING NEW. THE GOVERNMENT OFTEN WILL. THAT WOULD BE A LONGER TERM INVESTMENT OR THERE BE A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER ISSUES. THERE BUT LET'S WORK WITH THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE. WHAT CAN YOU DO FOR THESE FOLKS AND HOW DO WE DO MIXED DELIVERY? YOU KNOW, JCPS HAS ALREADY GOT SOME GREAT PROGRAMING. THAT'S THEIR THING FOR EARLY CHILDHOOD. HEAD START HAS GREAT PROGRAMING. THAT'S THEIR THING FOR EARLY CHILDHOOD. WE'RE THRILLED ABOUT THOSE. BUT HOW DO WE SUPPORT THE BUSINESS OWNERS AND THE NONPROFITS AND THE FAMILY? CHILD CARE HOMES THAT ARE REGULATED ALL BY THE STATE. HOW DO WE SUPPORT THAT GROUP OF FOLKS AS BUSINESS 
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OWNERS TO LIFT THEM UP SO THAT THEY CAN DO MORE AND MORE WORK TO KEEP THEIR WORKFORCE, TO ALSO UPDATE THEIR FACILITIES AS NEEDED? YOU GUYS PROBABLY ALREADY KNOW THAT THE PROFIT MARGIN FOR CHILD CARE CENTERS IS 1. SO THE ROLE FOR GOVERNMENT, THERE'S A ROLE IN THIS CASE TO COME IN TO, TO SUPPORT THAT SO THAT WE CAN LEVERAGE IT TO GET ADDITIONAL FUNDS THROUGH THRIVE BY FIVE WITH PHILANTHROPIC INVESTMENTS. BUT THIS IS A START TO INVEST IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS IN A WAY THAT SUPPORTS BOTH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY AND THE FAMILIES WHO LIVE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. AND I WOULD JUST ADD THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING THE CHILDREN THAT AREN'T, ATTENDING OR ELIGIBLE FOR JCPS PRESCHOOL AND HEAD START PRESCHOOL. SO THAT'S A LARGE GROUP OF CHILDREN THAT EITHER DON'T GO TO PRESCHOOL OR AT THEIR PARENTS HAVE TO PAY OUT OF POCKET. VERY GOOD, VERY GOOD. SO FOLKS, BOLSTERING IMPROVING CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE, CURRENT FILLING GAPS, HOLES IN THE CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE. YEAH. VERY GOOD. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN CHAPPELL . HELLO. I'VE GOT TWO QUESTIONS. I'M GOING TO LET MY COLLEAGUES HANDLE ANY OF THE THREE BY FIVE QUESTIONS, OR HOPEFULLY I'VE GOT A, GET OUT OF HERE PRETTY FAST. 
          AFTER I ASK THIS, BECAUSE MY NEPHEW IS GRADUATING TONIGHT FROM EIGHTH GRADE, AND I'M EXCITED TO SEE THAT, SO I'M HAVING A HARD TIME GIVING A GRADE TIER, ORGANIZATIONAL CHART FOR A FEW REASONS, MOSTLY BECAUSE IT ALMOST SEEMS UNFAIR, BECAUSE YOUR ORGANIZATIONAL CHART IS SO MUCH SMALLER THAN ALL OF THE REST OF THEM. BUT I THINK THAT THAT KIND OF LEADS INTO MY FIRST QUESTION, IN IN FISCAL YEAR 25, YOU HAVE FOUR POSITIONS IN FISCAL YEAR 24, YOU HAD FIVE. AND THEN ON YOUR ORGANIZATIONAL CHART, THERE'S THREE. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO SOME DISCREPANCIES WITH, BUDGETED NEED FOR, STAFF SALARIES. SO CAN YOU ADDRESS HOW YOUR ORGANIZATION IS, OR YOUR DEPARTMENT IS STRUCTURED. AND THEN HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU HAVE ON STAFF. SURE, WE FOR, LAST YEAR WITH WELL, THIS YEAR, I GUESS WE'RE STILL IN FISCAL YEAR 24 WAS OUR FIRST YEAR AS OFFICE OF PHILANTHROPY. AND, WE HAD, ME, LEANNE, AND THEN WE HAD, A COMMUNITY, WHAT WAS OUR INITIATIVES, THAT AND SHE WAS MOSTLY WORKING ON A PROGRAM THAT THAT STARTED UNDER THE FISHER ADMINISTRATION THAT WASN'T CONTINUED. SO SHE IS MOVING ON FOR THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR TO HOPEFULLY TO A DIFFERENT POSITION WITHIN METRO, AND THEN WE DID HIRE, ANNETTE DANGERFIELD BEHIND ME AS A PROJECT MANAGER. SHE WAS IN THE OFFICE OF PERFORMANCE IMPROVEMENT, WHICH, ALSO WENT AWAY FOR FISCAL YEAR 24. AND I'D WORKED WITH ANNETTE AND THOUGHT SHE WAS EXCELLENT. AND I THOUGHT WE I KNEW WE WERE UNDERTAKING THIS THIS, WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT'S CALLED THREE BY FIVE THEN, BUT THIS INITIATIVE. AND I THOUGHT SHE WOULD BE EXCELLENT TO HELP US WITH THIS PROJECT. SO WE HIRED HER. I THINK THE OTHER POSITION YOU'RE TALKING TALKING ABOUT, COUNCILWOMAN CHAPPELL IS THERE WAS AN WE HAD A COORDINATOR POSITION, SO THAT WAS THE FOURTH POSITION I THINK YOU'RE REFERRING TO. WE NEVER FILLED IT, HONESTLY, WE'RE KIND OF LEAN AND MEAN, AND WE JUST. WE JUST HUSTLED AND KIND OF DID OUR OWN THING, AND WE, ALSO GOT HELP FROM, ADMINISTRATIVE COORDINATOR, THAT WORKED FOR, DEPUTY MAYOR SEXTON SMITH. AND SHE HELPED US A LOT. SO WE, WE MADE DO WITH THE, WITH THE FOUR OF US. AND THEN GOING FORWARD, AS I SAID, THE COMMUNITY INITIATIVES, PERSON IS NO LONGER GOING TO HAVE HER ROLE. SO IT'S JUST THE THREE PEOPLE THAT YOU SEE RIGHT HERE. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? SURE. THREE PEOPLE, AS YOUR ORGANIZATIONAL CHART STATES, SO THOSE THREE PEOPLE, THE BUDGETED SALARY IS $225,800, WILL THAT COVER ALL THREE OF THOSE POSITIONS? NO IT WON'T. IT'S JUST THE TWO OF US. 
          BECAUSE, LEANNE FRENCH, HER, SALARY IS, ENTIRELY COVERED BY AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN MONEY. SO WHEN SHE WAS HIRED AND YOU CAN JUMP IN HERE, IT WAS UNDER THE LAST ADMINISTRATION, AND SHE WAS THE OVERSEEING ALL THE ARP FUNDS THAT YOU ALL, PUT TOWARDS EARLY LEARNING IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND THAT WAS HER ROLE. AND BECAUSE WE KNEW THE INITIATIVE FOR THE OFFICE OF PHILANTHROPY WAS GOING TO BE EXPANDING EARLY LEARNING AND QUALITY CHILD CARE, I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO GET HER IN THE OFFICE OF PHILANTHROPY, AND HER TITLE IS DIRECTOR OF EARLY CHILDHOOD. SO SHE IS NOT COVERED IN THAT EXPENSE. AND I'M LOOKING AT MY FRIENDS BEHIND ME. YES. I'M CORRECT. OKAY. YES AND THIS MIGHT BE MORE OF AN OPINION, BUT I THINK IT'S PROBABLY ALSO A VALID QUESTION, BUT WHY ISN'T THIS CALLED THE OFFICE OF EARLY CHILDHOOD DEVELOPMENT INSTEAD OF THE OFFICE OF PHILANTHROPY? OR ARE THERE OTHER PHILANTHROPIC EFFORTS THAT YOU ALL HANDLE BEYOND CHILDHOOD EDUCATION, 
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WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT? NO, THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION. I THINK IT'S CALLED OFFICE OF PHILANTHROPY BECAUSE THE NEXT PHASE OF THIS WILL BE US GOING OUT AND FUNDRAISING WITH FOR NATIONAL FOUNDATIONS, SO ALL THIS SUPPORT IS REALLY GREAT TO, TO GO OUT AND TELL OUR STORY NATIONALLY TO THE FOUNDATIONS, YES. GOING FORWARD, I THINK I WILL I WE OUR OFFICE WILL BE TASKED WITH RAISING FUNDS FOR OTHER PRIORITIES THAT THE MAYOR TELLS US, WHETHER IT'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, HOUSING. BUT RIGHT NOW OUR OUR FOCUS IS OUR EARLY LEARNING. BUT THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO JUST A FOLLOW UP TO THE QUESTION THAT SHE ASKED ABOUT THE POSITION THAT'S ARP FUNDED. SO DOES THAT. SO THEN NEXT YEAR SO NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET YOU'LL YOU'LL ABSORB THAT. SO IT TAKES CARE OF IT FOR THIS YEAR. CORRECT. IT ONLY TAKES CARE OF IT FOR THIS YEAR. ANYONE ELSE THAT'S MORE EXPERT. YES. YES. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE FUNDING FOR THIS POSITION RUNS OUT IN SEPTEMBER OF 2026 SIX 2026. OKAY. YEAH GOTCHA. COUNCILMAN PIAGENTINI. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. SO REGARDING THREE BY FIVE. SO, $5 MILLION THIS YEAR, IS YOUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT'S A ONE YEAR REQUEST? IT'S A TWO. IT'S A TWO YEAR REQUEST, SO WE WOULD USE THAT FOR THE FOR THE TWO YEARS IN PHASE ONE. IT'S KIND OF MUSIC AS PHASE ONE, BUT FOR TWO YEARS. AND THAT WILL BE REALLY FOCUSED ON WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT RECRUITING AND RETAINING. PLUS A MARKETING CAMPAIGN AND REALLY CREATING. WE LEARNED WHEN WE WERE DOING THE MAYOR'S EARLY LEARNING ACTION GROUP THAT THERE'S LOTS OF RESOURCES OUT THERE AVAILABLE TO CHILD CARE CENTER DIRECTORS AND EDUCATORS, BUT THEY WEREN'T AWARE OF IT. 
          THAT WAS WHAT WAS SO INTERESTING ABOUT HAVING ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT THEY WOULD SAY, OH, ACTUALLY, THIS ALREADY EXISTS. SO ANOTHER, ASPECT OF THRIVE BY FIVE LOUISVILLE WILL BE A VERY ROBUST, WEBSITE WHERE ALL THOSE RESOURCES ARE COORDINATED FOR FAMILIES, FOR EDUCATORS. SO IT CAN BE ALL IN ONE PLACE AND PEOPLE CAN ACCESS IT. SO REALLY, THIS IS AN ASK FOR 10 MILLION OVER TWO YEARS. NO. WHAT'S ASK OF 5 MILLION OVER TWO YEARS? WE'RE GOING TO USE IT. THERE'S 5 MILLION IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET. YES. YOU WILL NOT BE ASKING FOR ANY MORE MONEY. THIS IS A YES. 
          THIS IS A TWO YEAR COMMITMENT. YEAH 111 TIME FOR TWO YEARS. OKAY. SO NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, THERE WILL BE NO ASK RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. THAT'S WHAT I NEED SOMEBODY TO SAY THAT VERY CLEARLY THAT NEXT YEAR YOU WILL NOT COME BACK AND ASK FOR ANY MORE MONEY FOR THIS PROGRAM. YES. BECAUSE WE WILL YOU WE WILL TAKE THIS, VOTE OF SUPPORT FROM METRO COUNCIL AND WE WILL GO OUT TO NATIONAL FOUNDATIONS AND SHOW THAT YOU ARE SUPPORTING US, AND WE WILL GET FUNDS FROM NATIONAL FOUNDATIONS. SO EVEN BEYOND THE TWO YEARS YOU'RE SAYING THAT IT IS THIS ADMINISTRATION'S POSITION THAT THIS IS A ONE TIME ONLY ASK OF METRO, AND THAT METRO WILL NOT BE CONTINUOUSLY FUNDING THIS PROGRAM, WELL, I CAN'T SAY AFTER TWO YEARS, I, I'M NOT THE MAYOR. SO RIGHT NOW I KNOW THAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON GETTING THIS 5 MILLION FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS TO BUILD UP THE WORKFORCE. OKAY SO THAT'S JUST PHASE ONE, THOUGH, RIGHT? CORRECT THAT'S PHASE ONE. CORRECT. WE SEE THIS AS THREE PHASES. PHASE. OKAY. WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT, DO YOU ANTICIPATE AT THIS TIME IN PHASE ONE, 2 OR 3, ANY ONGOING ASKS OF METRO GOVERNMENT TO CONTINUOUSLY FUND EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION IN PERPETUITY? POSSIBLY THERE WILL BE ANOTHER. OKAY, SO, HOW MANY JUST IN THE 5 MILLION. HOW MANY CHILDREN DO IS THAT DOES THAT RESULT IN GETTING ACCESS TO, AND ACTUALLY, MAYBE IT'S TWO QUESTIONS, JUST TO BE CLEAR, BUT WHAT MY INTENTION OF ASKING IS HOW MANY CHILDREN END UP BENEFITING FROM IT AND HOW MANY FAMILIES DOES THAT TRANSLATE TO? IN OTHER WORDS, YOU POSITED AS A WORKFORCE EFFORT. SURE. SO I ASSUME THAT MEANS THAT CHILDREN GO INTO THIS PROGRAM AND A PARENT, BECAUSE IT'S PROBABLY NOT BOTH PARENTS, BUT A PARENT GOES BACK INTO THE WORKFORCE THAT WASN'T ABLE TO IN THE PAST, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW MANY SURE THAT THAT RESULT SURE. AND. RIGHT. SO THE FIRST TWO YEARS WILL BE WILL BE THERE WON'T BE FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE FOR ACTUALLY THE CHILDREN TO GO IN THE SEATS. IT WILL BE BUILDING UP THE WORKFORCE. BUT CAN I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT IN PHASE TWO AND PHASE THREE. SURE. SO WE ACTUALLY GAVE, THERE'S A POWERPOINT. SO BASICALLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, ABOUT I MEAN, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FOUR YEAR OLDS AGAIN, THIS WON'T BE DONE IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS. BUT IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FOUR YEAR OLDS AT THE 300% OR BELOW OF THE FEDERAL POVERTY LEVEL, THAT'S ABOUT 3104 YEAR OLDS TOTAL, IN THAT THAT FIT INTO THE 300% OR BELOW OF THE FEDERAL POVERTY LEVEL. AND THOSE CHILDREN ARE IN EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD, IN EVERY SINGLE DISTRICT. AND YOU'VE ALREADY SUBTRACTED OUT THOSE THAT ARE 
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USING THE OTHER PROGRAMS. CORRECT SO THAT'S 3000 IS YOUR TOTAL POPULATION. SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SERVE 3000. BUT TOTALLY YOU COULD THAT'S FOUR YEAR OLDS I MEAN, YES, I MEAN AND IF YOU IF YOU JUST YES, I MEAN IF YOU LOOK AT, ALL THE CHILDREN THAT ARE NOT RECEIVING GETTING THE FREE QUALITY CARE, THE FREE, IT'S 6800 KIDS. BUT BUT THE ONES THAT FALL INTO THAT FEDERAL POVERTY LEVEL OR BELOW. YEAH. I GUESS WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS I'M TRYING TO CALCULATE IN MY HEAD, WHICH WE WON'T BE ABLE TO DO HERE. I'M JUST BEING TRANSPARENT. IS LET'S SAY WE PUT 3000 PARENTS, WHICH WON'T BE, BUT LET'S JUST SAY WE PUT 3000 PARENTS BACK TO WORK. HOW MUCH MONEY ARE THEY MAKING AND HOW MUCH MONEY ARE THEY PAYING IN TAXES IN ORDER TO MAKE IT SUSTAINABLE? BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE TAXING THIS GROUP OF PEOPLE OVER HERE TO PAY FOR THIS GROUP OF PEOPLE TO GO BACK TO WORK. AND THAT'S NOT EVEN GENERATING A NEXT HALF ENOUGH TAX REVENUE TO MAKE IT SUSTAINABLE. SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE, SUSTAINED PUBLIC FINANCING. YEAH. AND I DON'T I DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER RIGHT NOW. RIGHT. AND I AND WE'RE SEEING IT LIKE WE HAVE THE, THE LEADERSHIP OF THE MAYOR RIGHT NOW. WE WE'RE MOVING AHEAD, EVEN IF WE JUST DID BUILDING UP THE WORKFORCE AND CREATED MORE SPACES, THERE ARE SEATS IN EXISTING FOR EACH AND JCPS AND HEAD START. THERE'S EXISTING SEATS NOW THEY CAN'T FILL BECAUSE THERE'S NO TEACHERS. SO JUST BUILDING UP THIS WORKFORCE WILL HELP IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS. ALL ALL THE ENTIRE ECOSYSTEM. FINAL QUESTION, MR. CHAIR. THEN WHY DOESN'T, I MEAN, JCPS HAS A BUDGET THAT'S OVER TWO TIMES THE SIZE OF OUR BUDGET. WHY DON'T THEY INVEST THAT SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS INTO BUILDING UP THEIR WORKFORCE TO MEET THAT NEED? I CAN'T ANSWER FOR JCPS. YES. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN RUY. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR CHAPPELL BASICALLY ASKED MY QUESTION WITH SUCH A BROAD OFFICE OF PHILANTHROPY, WHAT OTHER PHILANTHROPIES ARE YOU WORKING ON NOW? COUNCILOR CHAPPELL ALREADY ASKED THAT. SO I TURN IT OVER TO THE NEXT PERSON. THANK YOU. OKAY, COUNCILMAN HUDSON. THANK YOU. CHAIR. MARIANA, YOU CAME TO MY OFFICE SEVERAL WEEKS AGO AND HELPED ME CLIMB UP THE LEARNING CURVE ON ON THIS, AND I THANK YOU FOR THAT, I'VE BEEN CLIMBING EVER SINCE TO TRY TO LEARN MORE, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I NEED SOME CLARIFICATION ON IS, IS THE THREE BY FIVE CLASSIFIED MORE AS A DAYCARE PROGRAM OR A PRESCHOOL PROGRAM. SURE. AND THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION, COUNCILMAN. IT SO IT IS A, SEPARATE 500 1C3 ORGANIZATION. AND WE JUST GOT OUR, TAX EXEMPT STATUS FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FROM THE IRS, IT WILL BE WORKING WITH EXISTING CHILD CARE FACILITIES, PRESCHOOL QUALITY CARE. IT'S THE WHOLE AND FAMILY CHILD CARE HOME. SO IT'S NOT WE'RE NOT SPECIFYING PRE-K VERSUS CHILD CARE. IT'S ALL EARLY LEARNING. CHILD CHILD CARE. EXISTING ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE THEY'RE NONPROFIT PROFIT FAMILY CHILD CARE HOME. 
          IS THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. THE REASON I'M ASKING IS HOW MANY HOURS A DAY DO YOU FORESEE A CHILD BEING IN THE PROGRAM? SO IT'S WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY DOING THE PROGRAM. IT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING IS WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH THE EXISTING CHILD CARE CENTERS. SO SOME OF THEM, MOST OF THE CHILD CARE CENTERS AND ARE OPEN, YOU KNOW, A FULL DAY. SO WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THEM. SOME OF THEM ONLY WORK SOMETIME WE WANT AS MANY FAMILIES TO HAVE ACCESS TO IT AND WANT TO BUILD UP ALL THIS, THIS ECOSYSTEM ALL AROUND THE COUNTY. SO IT DEPENDS ON WHICH ONE THE FAMILY CHOOSES TO SEND THEIR CHILDREN TO. DO YOU WANT TO JUMP IN HERE? YEAH, I JUST WANT TO SAY IT'S SUCH A GREAT QUESTION AND I'M SO GLAD YOU ASKED COUNCILMAN HUDSON THAT THE GOAL IS THAT FOR FAMILIES HAVE CHOICES. THERE ARE LOTS OF DIFFERENT SETTINGS FROM WHICH PARENTS WILL BE ABLE TO CHOOSE, NOT BASED ON AFFORDABILITY, BUT BASED ON WHAT THEY NEED. SO MOST CHILD CARE CENTERS OPERATE YEAR ROUND. SOME HAVE. I WAS JUST TALKING WITH SOMEONE TODAY AT A MEETING WHO SAID THERE ARE A HANDFUL OF THEM THAT OFFER LIKE TAKE A TWO WEEK BREAK IN THE SUMMER, WHICH IS OF COURSE WOULD BE VERY HARD ON FAMILIES, BUT I UNDERSTAND IT HAPPENS SO THAT THEY'RE THEIR FOLKS GET A VACATION, BUT THE GOAL IS THE CENTERS OPERATE THE HOURS THEY CHOOSE. AND FOR EXAMPLE, SOME FAMILY CHILD CARE HOMES OPERATE ON WEEKENDS. THEY OPERATE ON EVENINGS FOR PEOPLE WHO WORK SHIFT WORK. SO IT THIS THE IDEA IS AGAIN, WITH THIS EXISTING ECOSYSTEM TO INVEST FUNDS IN WAYS THAT THE QUALITY IS LIFTED. 
          IF PEOPLE WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT AND A PART OF THIS AND FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS CAN BE 
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MADE SO THAT THREE AND FOUR YEAR OLDS AND THE FAMILIES OF THOSE THREE AND FOUR YEAR OLDS CAN CHOOSE THE KIND OF FACILITY THAT BEST FITS THEIR NEEDS, OFTEN WILL BE YEAR ROUND. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAD. THANK YOU. GOOD QUESTION, COUNCILMAN KRAMER. THANK YOU, I'M. I'M LOOKING AT PREVIOUS BUDGETS. WE HAD PUT. 7.5 MILLION INTO THE OFFICE IN THE PAST, I THINK THAT WAS OUR MONEY. CORRECT. AND I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSION ALREADY THAT YOUR SALARY FOR AT LEAST THIS YEAR NEXT, IS PAID WITH ARP FUNDING. IS THERE ANY OTHER ARP MONEY IN HERE THAT WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT FOR THRIVE BY FIVE LOUISVILLE, FOR WELL, NOT NOT IN MY OFFICE. I MEAN, THE REMAINING ARP FUNDS, THERE'S, I'M GOING TO LET YOU TALK ABOUT THIS, BUT YES , WE'RE TAKING SOME OF THAT EARLY LEARNING FUNDS AND PUTTING IT INTO THE TO THRIVE BY FIVE LOUISVILLE. YES. HOW MUCH ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? ONE BETWEEN 850,000 AND 1 MILLION. YEAH IT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF ARP FUNDS. YES. SEPARATE FROM THIS. WHAT ABOUT THE 2.3 MILLION THAT'S LEFT FROM LAST YEAR? ARP FUNDS. YOU MEAN BECAUSE IT WAS. YEAH, BECAUSE YOU GOT SEVEN, 7.2. I'M GOING TO ASK THAT TOO, BY THE WAY, HOW DID WE SPEND OUT OF THE 7.5 MILLION WE SPENT? WHAT'S THAT 5 MILLION, LET'S GET DOWN TO 2 MILLION. 300. WHAT DID WE DO WITH THE MONEY FROM ARP LAST YEAR? WHAT DID PHILANTHROPY DO WITH LAST YEAR'S ARP MONEY? THAT MOST OF THAT MONEY WAS, AWARDED. 
          SO THERE WAS AN RFP OR RFA THAT WENT OUT IN 20 LATE 2022. GRANTS WERE AWARDED, EXCUSE ME, IN 2023. THERE HAVE BEEN SOME ADDITIONAL GRANTS AWARDED. THIS PROBABLY IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS. 
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
          THAT'S A GOOD WHEN DOES THE CONTRACT EIRE? AT RENEWED EVERY FIVE YEARS. AND IT AND THEY GOT IT RECENTLY RENEWED 18 IS THE 2017. IT WAS IT WAS RIGHT BEFORE COVID I THINK IT WAS AWARDED AT THE VERY END OF 2019, BEGINNING OF 2020, THIS COMING FALL. IS IT AN AUTOMATIC 
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RENEWAL? NO. I MEAN, THIS IS OUR CHAIR OF FIVE BY FIVE, IF WE DON'T MIND IF WE COULD HAVE HER STEP UP TO THE MICROPHONE. IF YOU INTRODUCE BUTLER, YOU STAND AT THE MICROPHONE HERE IF YOU WANT. AND YOU CAN JUST IF YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF, PLEASE. AND ACTUALLY I WANT TO APOLOGIZE. WE STARTED EARLY. NO THAT'S FINE. I'M SORRY I'M LATE. I HATE THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY NOT. YOU'RE NOT LATE. YEAH, YOU'RE YOU'RE STILL EARLY. NOTHING LIKE BEING ON TIME. OKAY. HEAD START. WILL. 
          IT'S A IT'S AN AUTOMATIC RENEWAL. AS LONG AS BOTH ORGANIZATIONS ARE IN GOOD STANDING. SO I BELIEVE THAT'S THE CASE. AND SO HEAD START IS A COMPLETELY SEPARATE, SEPARATE FUNDING STREAM, AND IS ONLY ACCESSIBLE TO OHIO VALLEY REGIONAL, ECONOMIC COOPERATIVE AND, GREATER LOUISVILLE HEAD START, WHICH IS RUN BY FAMILY AND CHILDREN'S PLACE. AND WHILE WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE, YOU DID NOT INTRODUCE YOURSELF. I'M SORRY, I'M ASHLEY NOVAK BUTLER. I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE LIFT NOVAK FAMILY FOUNDATION, AND I'M ALSO THE BOARD CHAIR FOR THRIVE BY FIVE. THANK YOU. THANKS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. SO, SAY YOU MIGHT WANT TO STAY CLOSE BY, COUNCILWOMAN MCCRANEY. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TODAY. I JUST WANT TO ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING, IF YOU WILL. WE TALKED ABOUT THE TWO YEAR ASK. COULD YOU PLEASE TALK TO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, OUR TASK IS TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY GETS SOMETHING IN ORDER FOR US TO HAVE A BALANCED BUDGET, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GET FUNDING FROM IN ORDER TO SUPPORT WHATEVER FUNCTION WILL BEST FIT THE NEEDS OF THIS COMMUNITY. SO IF PERHAPS YOUR TWO YEAR ASK FOR THIS YEAR WAS CUT IN HALF SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE IT, THE PART THAT YOU NEED FOR THIS YEAR, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO YOUR PROGRAM? PLEASE SPEAK TO THAT. ASHLEY DO YOU WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SORT OF THE MULTI YEAR IN TERMS OF GOING OUT TO GET PHILANTHROPIC DOLLARS DOLLARS? EXCUSE ME. NOT DAUGHTERS, THE TWO YEAR COMMITMENT AND WHAT THAT SPEAKS TO, AS A COMMITMENT WITH FOUNDATIONS, I THINK, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR FROM METRO COUNCIL AND FROM, FROM LOUISVILLE METRO IS A COMMITMENT THAT THIS IS A PRIORITY FOR THE CITY, THAT, THAT WE HAVE THE FINANCES AVAILABLE TO CREATE THIS ORGANIZATION AND REALLY RUN AN EFFECTIVE PROGRAM BUILDING OUR WORKFORCE, FOCUSING ON FACILITIES, THIS MIXED DELIVERY MODEL AND BEING ABLE TO BUILD THAT OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS. WE'VE GOT TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE CAPITAL, I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE ARP DOLLARS. THOSE ARE AWESOME. BUT THEY'RE ALSO REIMBURSABLE. SO WE'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE CAPITAL TO GET STARTED AND SHOWING THAT, THAT THAT LOUISVILLE IS SUPPORTIVE OF THIS EFFORT HELPS US TO BE ABLE TO GO TO NATIONAL FUNDERS AND SAY THAT THIS IS A PRIORITY FOR THE CITY. 
          ALSO, LOCAL PHILANTHROPIC PARTNERS ARE INTERESTED IN IN THE FACT THAT THE THAT YOU ALL ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS EFFORT. SO IT'S REALLY GOT TO BE A BE A COMMUNITY, A COMMUNITY SUPPORTED, NONPROFIT FROM THE START. BUT WE'VE GOT TO WE'VE GOT TO GET GOING AND WE HAVE TO HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DO SO. SO WE DO NEED THE $5 MILLION, IT'S AN EXPENSIVE ENDEAVOR FOR SURE. 
          I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT, BUT IT'S ALSO EXTREMELY VALUABLE FOR OUR YOUNGEST CITIZENS. OKAY. MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I FOLLOW UP? CERTAINLY THANK YOU FOR THAT ANSWER. I DO NEED TO KNOW, HOWEVER, BECAUSE WE ARE IN A PARTICULAR SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE TO FIND FUNDING FOR THIS ENTIRE CITY. NOW, MOST PEOPLE KNOW THAT GOVERNMENTS OPERATE ON A FISCAL YEAR. SO IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR A TWO YEAR COMMITMENT, IT WOULD NOT BE ODD TO MOST PEOPLE THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONTACT TO TALK ABOUT A COMMITMENT AND TELL THEM THAT YOU CAN ONLY GET A ONE YEAR COMMITMENT. SO COULD YOU PLEASE SPEAK TO THE FACT THAT IF YOU'RE ONLY GIVEN A ONE YEAR COMMITMENT, WHICH SHOWS OUR COMMITMENT TO YOUR PROGRAM, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT IF YOU DON'T GET A TWO YEAR COMMITMENT AND THE FULL 5 MILLION, THAT THAT'S ONE SHOW NOT SHOWING A COMMITMENT FROM YOUR GOVERNMENT, AND TWO, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GET ANY PHILANTHROPIC COOPERATION. I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GOING TO TURN ANY MONEY AWAY. I WILL UTILIZE ALL THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE TO BRING THE RIGHT PERSON TO LEAD THIS ORGANIZATION AND TO HELP ALL OF ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT CHILD CARE CENTERS IN DIFFERENT DISTRICTS. YOU KNOW, ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT I THINK THE MORE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO GET FROM 
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LOUISVILLE METRO, THE MORE WE'RE ABLE TO SAY THAT THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT PRIORITY FOR THE CITY. BUT I WILL USE ALL RESOURCES TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY TO MAKE AN IMPACT. I APPRECIATE THAT, AND I, I HOPE THAT YOU WILL BE MORE POSITIVE IN YOUR REACTION TO OUR COMMITMENT, BECAUSE WHILE WE EMBRACE WANTING OUR YOUNG CHILDREN TO LEARN AND UNDERSTAND AND GROW AND BE AHEAD OF THE GAME, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE COMMITMENT FROM EVERYBODY TO BE POSITIVE IN THAT APPROACH, WHETHER YOU GET ALL OF THE FUNDING OR NOT, AND WE DON'T WANT PUBLICLY ANYBODY THINKING THAT OUR COMMITMENT IS NOT THERE, THE FUNDING WILL BE THERE. ACCORDING TO HOW WE CAN MAKE IT ALL WORK FOR THE ENTIRE CITY ACCORDING TO THE BUDGET. 
          BUT OTHER THING I WANTED TO FIND OUT IS WHAT NATIONAL MODEL ARE YOU USING TO SO TO COME UP WITH HOW YOUR PROGRAM WILL WORK VERSUS HOW EARLY CHILDHOOD DEVELOPMENT IS ALREADY WORKING OR PRESCHOOL IS ALREADY WORKING? WHAT IS DIFFERENT ABOUT YOUR PROGRAM? AND THEN I GUESS AS A FOLLOW UP, I WOULD I WOULD WANT TO KNOW WITH THE FUNDING, HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY WE CAN'T DEAL WITH WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE, WHY THERE'S A SEPARATE MODEL AND THE NEED FOR IT VERSUS HELPING WHAT WE HAVE TO BE BETTER. SURE, I'LL I'LL ANSWER YOUR FIRST PART OF YOUR QUESTION. WE LOOK, THERE'S CITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT HAVE DONE THIS. THERE'S VARIOUS MODELS. WE SPENT SOME TIME WITH CINCINNATI, AND THERE'S IN SAN ANTONIO, COLUMBUS, SOME ORGANIZATIONS DO IT THE WAY THAT WE, PART OF OUR IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, WHICH IS A SEPARATE 500 1C3 OTHER, CITIES DO IT THROUGH THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM, WHICH, SOMETIMES INADVERTENTLY HURTS THE ENTIRE CHILD CARE INDUSTRY, BECAUSE IF YOU TAKE THE FOUR YEAR OLDS OUT OF CHILD CARE AND PUT THEM ALL INTO THE PUBLIC SCHOOL, THEN IT TIPS THE BALANCE IN THE CHILD CARE AND IT IT IN SOME CASES DECIMATES THAT THE WHOLE ECOSYSTEM. SO WE WERE VERY MINDFUL AND THAT WE WANTED TO DO MIXED DELIVERY IN JEFFERSON COUNTY. ANYTHING TO ADD ON THAT. AND THEN WE CAN ANSWER YOUR SECOND QUESTION. YEAH. I THINK THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, COUNCILWOMAN, I THINK IT'S FIRST OF ALL, I THINK IT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION, AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU ASKED IT. IT SHOWS THAT YOU'VE REALLY STUDIED THIS OR YOU UNDERSTAND THE BACKGROUND, THE IDEA THAT IF IT'S BASED IN GOVERNMENT, IT'S IT. YOU KNOW, I KNOW PEOPLE HAVE FEELINGS ABOUT WHERE THINGS SHOULD BE, BUT THE IDEA IF WE HAVE IF IT'S PLACED IN A 500 AND 1C3, WHICH MANY OTHER CITIES HAVE FOUND TO BE HELPFUL, IT CAN BE MORE NIMBLE. 
          YOU CAN ATTRACT PHILANTHROPIC FUNDS. THERE ARE WAYS THAT YOU CAN PROCEED, THAT THE ORGANIZATION CAN PROCEED AND GROW AND SORT OF STAY OUT OF THE POLITICAL, MAYBE TUSSLE AND MAYBE BE VERY FOCUSED ON EDUCATION. SO THAT'S ONE PART. THE SECOND PART IS THAT THERE REALLY IS NO INFRASTRUCTURE FOR EARLY CARE AND EDUCATION, LIKE THERE IS FOR SORT OF THE K THROUGH 12 EDUCATION SECTOR. THAT'S ONE OF THE PROBLEMS. SO BASICALLY THE RESPONSE ABILITY OF PAYING FOR EDUCATION BECOMES THE IS ON THE BACKS OF PARENTS AND FAMILIES WHO CAN WE KNOW WHO CAN AFFORD IT. AND THERE MOST PEOPLE CAN'T, A LOT OF TIMES IT'S AS MUCH AS 20% OR TO 50% OF SOMEBODY'S INCOME. AND YOU CAN'T PAY THAT. AND SO, THE IDEA OF CREATING A SYSTEM WHERE THINGS ARE ALIGNED. SO WE'RE SO WE'RE THERE'S A GROUP LIKE THREE BY FIVE IN THIS CASE THAT WOULD SAY WE HAVE FUNDING AND WE'RE COLLECTING OTHER FUNDING. WE'RE LEARNING ABOUT BEST PRACTICES, AND WE'RE DOING WHAT WE CAN TO IMPLEMENT THOSE IN LOUISVILLE THROUGH THESE RESOURCES. BY SORT OF ALIGNING THE PHILANTHROPIC ORGANIZATION OWNS ALL OF THE, NONPROFITS WHO HAVE BEEN FOCUSED ON THIS WORK FOR MANY YEARS TO FOCUS IN ONE DIRECTION. AND THAT DIRECTION SUPPORTS THE EXISTING CHILD CARE ECOSYSTEM, BECAUSE IT'S, AGAIN, THE PROFIT MARGINS ARE ABOUT 1. FOLKS CANNOT DO IT ON THEIR OWN THAT YOU KNOW, CENTERS CLOSE, IT GETS TOO EXPENSIVE. PEOPLE GET TIRED OF LONG HOURS. AND IT'S HARD WORK. SO THE IDEA IS TO HAVE THIS ORGANIZATION THRIVE BY FIVE LOUISVILLE. IN THIS CASE, THAT WOULD BE LIKE AN INFRASTRUCTURE IN A IN ALIGNING FORCE AND A FUNDER IN THE SPACE TO SUPPORT, ACCESS TO THESE HIGH QUALITY CENTERS FOR, FOR FAMILIES AND YOUNG CHILDREN. I APPRECIATE THAT ANSWER. HOWEVER, IN TALKING TO DIFFERENT EDUCATORS, THOSE 
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WHO HAVE BEEN AT THE HIGHER LEVEL OF EDUCATION AND UNDERSTAND ALL OF THE PRESCHOOL ARRANGEMENTS FAR GREATER THAN ME, THAT'S WHY I CONSULTED WITH THEM. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT DEPENDING ON WHAT MODEL YOU CHOOSE, THIS PROGRAM WILL BE EFFECTIVE OR INEFFECTIVE. AND I WAS BEING TOLD WHICH WAS NEWS TO ME, THAT NO PRESCHOOL OR ANY PRESCHOOL PROGRAM SHOULD GO IN WITH THE IDEA THAT THEY ARE TEACHING BASIC SCHOOL, HOW CURRICULUM IT. THEY HAVE TO BE PREPARED TO LEARN, LEARN COURTESY AND BASIC ON DAY TO DAY ROUTINES OF BEING RESPONSIBLE AND THE BASICS. AND THEN I WAS THINKING IT WAS GOING TO BE SOME MAJOR CURRICULUM OF LEARNING, BUT I WAS TOLD THAT IF THAT IS THE MODEL THAT WE'RE SUPPORTING, THEN THAT WILL NOT WORK, BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS THOSE KIDS WILL THEN GO INTO THE KINDERGARTEN AND HAVE TO RELEARN THINGS THAT PRESCHOOL TAUGHT THEM, BECAUSE IT'S NOT QUITE HOW THE SCHOOL SYSTEM WORKS. SO COULD YOU SPEAK TO YOUR EXACT. I KNOW YOU JUST SAID THAT YOU WOULD BE CREATING DOLLARS AND GETTING INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE, BUT DO YOU HAVE A MODEL THAT I CAN LOOK AT TO SEE WHAT YOUR PLANS ARE, AGAIN, JUST SO THANKFUL ABOUT YOU ASKING THESE QUESTIONS BECAUSE IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, TO SHARE A STORY. LET ME JUST SAY THIS. I SHARE A STORY WITH A FORMER KINDERGARTEN TEACHER WHO I SPOKE WITH AT LENGTH, ON A CALL ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON. HE SAID, LEANNE, SHE WORKED FOR JCPS. SHE SAID I COULD TELL WITHIN THE FIRST HOUR, WHICH OF THE KIDS IN MY KINDERGARTEN CLASS HAD BEEN IN PRESCHOOL. BUT, COUNCILWOMAN MCCRANEY, YOU KNOW HOW WHETHER THEY NOT THEY COULD THEY COULD SEE THEIR NAME AND RECOGNIZE IT AS THEIR NAME AND WHETHER THEY KNEW HOW TO SIT DOWN, WHETHER THEY KNEW HOW TO TOILET, WHETHER THEY KNEW HOW TO SIT IN A CIRCLE. AND SO THE EXACTLY THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THIS IS NOT ABOUT ACADEMIC PREPARATION. IT'S ABOUT HOW TO GET ALONG WITH OTHER PEOPLE, HOW TO SOLVE PROBLEMS. RIGHT, HOW TO, TAKE DIRECTION IN A WAY THAT IS GOING TO HELP YOU GET ALONG WITH NOT JUST OTHER FRIENDS, BUT YOUR TEACHER. HOW TO PLAY TOGETHER. WELL, ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, AS ADULTS, WE SOMETIMES FORGET, BUT THAT IT'S TRAINING KIDS. IT'S I SHOULDN'T SAY TRAINING BECAUSE IT'S NOT EVEN TRAINING. IT'S EXPERIENCES OF PLAY INSIDE AND OUTSIDE THAT PREPARE CHILDREN, TO GET ALONG WITH OTHER PEOPLE AND BE IN A CLASSROOM SO THAT THEY'RE MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY READY TO TAKE THE STEPS THEY NEED TO LEARN IN A MORE FORMAL WAY WHEN THEY GET TO SCHOOL. SO LET ME I KNOW I'M TAKING UP COUNCILWOMAN. YES, YOU ARE. YEAH. WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO GET YOU BACK IN. YES, I'LL GET BACK IN, WITH MY SECOND PART OF THAT QUESTION. BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THIS, THOUGH, TO THAT ANSWER IS THAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GETTING FULL SUPPORT OF $5 MILLION IN A TWO YEAR COMMITMENT VERSUS A ONE YEAR COMMITMENT IS HAVING A REAL PLAN IN PLACE SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND BANNED COMPLETELY WHAT YOUR PLANS ARE SO THAT'S WHY I SPEAK TO THAT SO EMPHATICALLY. I'LL COME BACK IN. THANK CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU. 
          ASHLEY, CAN I ASK YOU A FOLLOW UP TO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT SHE ASKED? SO IN TALKING ABOUT THIS TWO YEAR COMMITMENT. SO I'M NOT SURE WHEN YOU GO TO, TO, TO GET FUNDS FROM FEDERAL ORGANIZATION OR NATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS, IT'S NOT FEDERAL NOT FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, BUT NATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS. SO HOW IMPORTANT IS IT TO LIKE DO THEY DO THEY MATCH FUNDS? AND DO WE WERE WE BE ABLE TO USE THE 5 MILLION AS A MATCH TO GET FIVE AS OPPOSED TO TWO AND A HALF? IF WE ONLY GIVE YOU TWO AND A HALF, OR I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH HOW IT WORKS WHEN YOU GO ON THE NATIONAL LEVEL, I THINK IT BUILDS A STRONG CASE FOR SUPPORT, FOR GOING OUT, FOR A MATCHING OPPORTUNITY. I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S A GREAT THING. I THINK IF WE'VE LEARNED ANYTHING IN PHILANTHROPIC AND PHILANTHROPY, THESE OVER THESE LAST 13 YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN IN THIS SPACE, IT'S THAT MULTI YEAR COMMITMENTS ARE INCREDIBLY IMPACTFUL BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO SPEND A LOT OF YOUR TIME AND ENERGY TO GO BACK AND GET THE FUNDING. YOU'RE ABLE TO KNOW THAT YOU HAVE THAT COMMITMENT AND THAT YOU CAN ACT ON IT. NOW AGAIN, WE WILL BE GRATEFUL FOR ANYTHING THAT WE CAN GET IN THIS BUDGET PROCESS. BUT I CAN TELL YOU IT DOES HELP FROM A FROM A PRIVATE FUNDER PERSPECTIVE TO KNOW THAT THERE IS A COMMITMENT THAT'S BEYOND A YEAR. AND THIS QUESTION MIGHT BE YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE AN ANSWER TO IT AT THIS POINT. BUT, IT WOULD 
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SEEM TO ME THAT IF WE'RE GETTING THIS UP AND GOING, THAT IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE FAIR TO SAY THAT THE COMMITMENT IS TWO AND A HALF AND TWO AND A HALF. IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT YOU'RE THE FIRST YEAR WOULD YOU WOULD ULTIMATELY NEED MORE MONEY IN THE FIRST YEAR THAN YOU MIGHT IN THE SECOND YEAR. YEAH I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WE AGAIN, WE HAVE TO BUILD THIS ORGANIZATION. BUT BUT THE MORE THAT WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE COMMITTED, THE QUICKER WE CAN MOVE AND THE MORE WE CAN HIRE TO GET PEOPLE WORKING ON THE WORKFORCE ISSUE, RECRUITMENT, ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS THAT TAKES PEOPLE DOING ACTIVE, ACTIVE THINGS TO GET PEOPLE INTO THE SPACES THEY NEED TO BE IN. AND SERVING IN THE WAYS THEY NEED TO BE. VERY GOOD. 
          COUNCILMAN OWEN. THANK YOU. CHAIR, THE LAST TWO QUESTIONERS ACTUALLY ASKED EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO BE ASKING, I'LL JUST KIND OF, DRILL DOWN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER. I THINK WE'RE NOT USED TO GETTING MULTI YEAR ASKS. I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S THAT'S PART OF THE ISSUE HERE, SO WHEN WE START THINKING ABOUT IT AND THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT CHAIR BLACKWELL WAS JUST SAYING, WE'RE LOOKING FOR, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ORGANIZATIONS ASKING US FOR $50,000 AND $100,000 AND, AND THAT SORT OF THING. SO WHEN WE THINK OF YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE COULD SPLIT THIS UP 3 MILLION. THE FIRST YEAR AND 2 MILLION THE SECOND YEAR. I'M. AND LET ME STEP BACK AND SAY FIRST THAT I AM FULLY COMMITTED TO THE PROGRAM. AND A HUGE PROPONENT OF THE PROGRAM, AND I THINK IT'LL MAKE A HUGE IMPACT IN IN METRO LOUISVILLE FOR A LONG TIME. SO I LOVE WHAT WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF, HESITANCY ABOUT ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THE SYSTEM IS BEING SET UP OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. FOR US, IT'S JUST ABOUT HOW ARE WE GOING TO DISTRIBUTE THE MONEY THIS FISCAL YEAR IN THE BEST WAY WE CAN? SO IF 5 MILLION GOES TO THRIVE BY FIVE AND YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO SPEND THREE, THEN TWO WILL SIT FOR A YEAR IN AN ACCOUNT WITHOUT BEING USED. THAT COULD HAVE GONE TO ANOTHER ORGANIZATION DURING THAT YEAR. THAT'S I THINK THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET AT HERE. SO, AGAIN , MY REAL QUESTION WAS ANSWERED BY THE FIRST BY THE BY BY COUNCILWOMAN MCCRANEY AND COUNCILMAN BLACKWELL. BUT I THINK JUST AS FURTHER EXPLANATION FROM OUR END, WE'RE NOT USED TO GETTING A FIVE YEAR REQUEST OVER TWO YEARS. SO IN OUR MINDS, WE'RE LIKE, WELL, MAYBE WE CAN BUILD SPLIT THAT UP THREE IN THE FIRST YEAR AND TWO IN THE SECOND. CAN CAN YOU TALK JUST A LITTLE BIT? I KNOW YOU'VE ADDRESSED ADDRESSED IT A LITTLE BIT ALREADY, BUT I MEAN, IF WE IF WE KIND OF MADE THAT, HE SAID, THAT'S IN MY MIND. THAT'S, THAT'S THE WAY WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD. WE WANT TO DO THREE IN FISCAL YEAR 25 AND TWO IN FISCAL YEAR 26. WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE FOR YOU GUYS? YEAH, I MEAN, I JUST ECHO WHAT ASHLEY SAID. WE ARE WE'RE EXCITED. YOU KNOW, FOR FUNDING. AND WE BELIEVE STRONGLY IN THIS. AND WE THINK IT WILL MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE FOR WORKING FAMILIES ALL ACROSS EVERY SINGLE DISTRICT, AND ALSO, IT TO, YOU KNOW, THE BIGGER THE NUMBER WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU FUNDRAISE WITH NATIONAL FOUNDATIONS TO SHOW IT FOR A MATCH. EXACTLY. AS COUNCILMAN BLACKWELL SAID, THAT IS POWERFUL , SO BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE ARE WE ARE EXCITED TO GET STARTED WITH, WITH FUNDS. SO BUT YEAH, SO I'M JUST GOING TO ECHO EXACTLY WHAT ASHLEY SAID. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN PARISH. RIGHT THANK YOU, LIKE COUNCILMAN OWEN, I FEEL LIKE MY COLLEAGUES TOUCHED ON SOME THINGS THAT I WAS GOING TO ASK. I DO HAVE A FEW THINGS, THOUGH. I COME AT THIS FROM A VERY PRACTICAL, SIMPLE. I AM, AND I DO BELIEVE IN HEAD START, EARLY START. ALL MY KIDS PARTICIPATED IN. I'M ACTUALLY FROM CINCINNATI, SO I'VE SEEN IT WORK AND HOW IT WORKS THERE TOO. BUT MY ISSUE IS THAT I FEEL LIKE SOME LIKE THIS AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE IN THE BUDGET. WE HAVE A LOT OF MEANINGFUL ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE DOING BOOTS ON THE GROUND WORK, WORKING WITH PEOPLE AT THE 30, 50 AND 80% AND ARMY WHO THAT IS NOT GETTING FUNDED. AND THIS IS A START UP PROJECT AND PROGRAM SIMILAR TO WHEN CEO STUFF CAME ABOUT AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT. I FULLY SUPPORT WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND I FULLY SUPPORT ALL OF THESE THINGS. BUT MY ISSUE IS I DON'T HEAR THE SHOESTRING BUDGET IN THIS. WHAT IS THE BARE MINIMUM THAT WE CAN GIVE YOU AS A START OF A COMMITMENT THIS YEAR? BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THE 5 MILLION OR 2 MILLION IS TOO MUCH, THERE'S OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT CAME LAST WEEK THAT WE COULD HAVE FUNDED WITH JUST A QUARTER OF THAT AND EVEN A LITTLE MORE THAN THAT. SO MY THING IS, WHAT HAVE YOU ALL DID THE NUMBERS, BECAUSE THIS IS 
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A PROJECT, YOU COULD TELL ME WHAT THE PROJECTED AMOUNT IS BASED ON WHAT IT WILL DO, BUT IN REALITY THIS IS A START UP. SO WHAT? SO WHAT IS THE SHOESTRING BUDGET TO GET US THROUGH THIS YEAR? SEEING THAT SOME OF YOUR SALARIES ARE ALREADY COVERED WITH FUNDING, WE'VE ALREADY ALLOTTED THAT SO THAT WE CAN FIND SOME A NUMBER THAT'S MORE REASONABLE THAT WE ALL CAN GET BEHIND. I JUST DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE DOING THIS. AND WE HAVE SO MANY FAMILIES WHO USE THESE ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN GUTTED AND CUT. AND THEN WE'RE SAYING, OKAY, HERE'S HERE'S A 5 MILLION COMMITMENT TO START THIS WHEN WE HAVE OTHER THINGS THAT NEED TO BE SUPPORTED. SO WHAT'S A SHOESTRING BUDGET? AND THE LAST QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE TRAINING YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. BECAUSE IF YOU'RE WORKING WITH EXISTING CHILD CARE FACILITIES, SOME OF THEM ARE UP ABOVE PAR. SOME OF THEM AREN'T. THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE OF A REGULATING WITH THAT. 
          EXACTLY AND SO I'M JUST GOING TO ADDRESS YOUR LAST QUESTION, WHICH IS ABOUT THE EXISTING CHILD CARE, SO WE'RE THERE'S A STARS KENTUCKY STARS PROGRAM AND ALL THE CHILD CARES THAT ARE REGISTERED ARE ONE THROUGH FIVE STARS. WE'RE GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO EVERYBODY TO BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR FUNDS TO IMPROVE THEIR FUNDING. AND, THAT IS THE IDEA TO GET ALL THE QUALITY UP, IN TERMS OF YOUR OTHER QUESTION ABOUT, I CAN SEE I CAN SEE YOUR POINT. I MEAN, WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE REALLY EXCITED THAT WE HAVE THIS MOMENTUM AND WE REALLY THINK WE NEED WE WOULD TO GET THE PHILANTHROPIC DOLLARS OUTSIDE JEFFERSON COUNTY TO HAVE A BIG COMMITMENT AND TO HIT THE GROUND RUNNING WHERE WE HAVE THIS MOMENTUM, THAT THAT THESE FUNDS ARE REALLY NEEDED. IT'S SORT OF THE WORK FORCE BEHIND THE WORKFORCE. IT'S NOT JUST FOR THE KIDS, IT'S FOR FAMILIES, IT'S FOR THE ECONOMY. WE SORT OF SEE IT AS A AS A BROAD BASED INITIATIVE. DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING? YEAH. SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT OTHER MODELS, ONE OF THE ONE OF THE OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT DID SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS WAS IN CHATTANOOGA. THEY DID A WAGE SUPPLEMENTATION PROGRAM, HALF THE HALF THE SIZE OF OUR CITY IN THIS AREA, AND IT WAS AROUND 1.2 MILLION. SO IF WE WERE TO REPLICATE THAT, THAT WOULD NEED TO DOUBLE HERE. SO JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF SOME OF THE WAYS THIS FUNDING WOULD BE USED IS, YOU KNOW, WE ALSO NEED TO HELP COORDINATE AND GET PEOPLE INTO THE PROFESSION. WE NEED TO DO A MARKETING CAMPAIGN, AND WE NEED TO BUILD A WEBSITE FOR FAMILIES WHERE THEY CAN ACCESS THE RESOURCES IN A REALLY CLEAR AND EASY WAY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT CHILD CARE IS AVAILABLE, WHAT IT DOES FOR THEIR CHILDREN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GOING TO TAKE RESOURCES AS WELL, BEING ABLE TO TRAIN, TRAIN ON PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN THE PROFESSION AND GET THEM, GET THEM GOING, WITH EXISTING COMMUNITY PARTNERS LIKE FAUCI, AND CREATING SOME UNIVERSITY PARTNERSHIPS THAT PROVIDE SCHOLARSHIPS AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR, FOR PEOPLE TO, TO GET THEIR DEGREE OR THEIR KDA EVEN TO BE ABLE TO START IN THIS PROFESSION, IT'S ALL GOING TO TAKE RESOURCES. SO, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE CAN PUT THE MONEY TO GOOD USE. WE ALSO, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU TALKED ABOUT THE FACILITY. YEAH, IMPROVING, BUT THAT COSTS MONEY, SO THERE'S, THERE'S A NEED FOR, FOR FUNDING, BUT AGAIN, ANY, ANY ANYTHING WE CAN GET, TO SUPPORT THIS EFFORT, WE WILL PUT TO GOOD USE. AND, MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY FOLLOW UP WITH ONE LAST QUICK QUESTION. 
          CERTAINLY THE PAY IS THE PROBLEM. I KNOW YOU HAVE A MARKETING CAMPAIGN AND YOU'RE GOING TO TRY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES. MANY OF US THAT ARE ON COUNCIL OR, OR ARE IN THIS CITY HAVE HAD TO PAY FOR CHILD CARE, AND THE WORKERS DON'T MAKE A LOT OF MONEY. SO HOW WHAT IS YOUR APPROACH TO THE CHILDCARE? LIVABLE WAGES AND THINGS LIKE THAT? BECAUSE THESE ARE NOT UNIONIZED JOBS AND THESE ARE REALLY HIGH BURNOUT JOBS. SO HOW WILL YOU DETERMINE THAT PART OF THE PAY? BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHAT SOME OF THOSE AGENCIES NEED THAT ARE IN OPERATION IS MORE SUPPORT. SO THEY CAN SUPPORT THEIR WORK, THE PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR THEM MORE. YEAH, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU, COUNCILWOMAN, I MEAN, IT'S A VERY UNDERVALUED, UNDERPAID PROFESSION, FOR SURE. WE WANT TO BRING PROFESSIONALIZATION TO THAT PROFESSION, THAT WAGE SUPPLEMENTATION PROGRAM, I WAS TALKING ABOUT, THAT WOULD BE WHERE WE WOULD PAY A LIVING WAGE AND PILOT SOMETHING WITH CHILD CARE CENTERS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING TO SEE WHAT THAT DOES, THAT DO FOR THEIR RETENTION, FOR ATTRACTION. AND THEN WE CAN TAKE THOSE RESULTS AND TRY AND RAISE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS TOWARDS THAT EFFORT. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN KRAMER, THANK YOU, I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO. SO I'VE HEARD YOU TALK A COUPLE DIFFERENT TIMES ABOUT WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT. WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND THE AMOUNT OF TRAINING TO GET FOLKS READY TO DO THIS, WHAT IS YOUR CURRENT WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH KENTUCKIANA WORKS, AND WHERE DO YOU SEE MOVING FORWARD, A RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT 
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ORGANIZATION AND IN IN ALL SINCERITY, WHERE DO YOU SEE THEM TAKING ON SOME OF THE BURDEN SO THAT IT WON'T COST YOU AS MUCH TO DO THOSE THINGS? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, COUNCILMAN KRAMER, THE ISSUE IS WE WHEN I FIRST STARTED THIS JOB, BEFORE THERE WAS THIS INFRASTRUCTURE WITH THE OFFICE OF PHILANTHROPY, I WORKED AT PUBLIC HEALTH FOR 18 YEARS BEFORE THIS, AND SO I KNEW MICHAEL GRIFFIN WAS ABLE TO CALL HIM. AND HE HAD SAID, LISTEN, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE CAN FUND WITH FEDERAL FUNDS, BECAUSE AND COUNCILWOMAN PARISH, RIGHT, YOU'LL APPRECIATE THIS, IT DOESN'T PROVIDE A FAMILY LIVING WAGE, SO WE CANNOT INVEST HERE TO TRAIN PEOPLE TO DO THIS WORK BECAUSE OUR FUNDING MANDATES THAT WHEN WE TRAIN PEOPLE, THEY NEED TO COME OUT MAKING A FAMILY. LIVING WAGE AND WE DON'T. SO THEY HAVE NOT TO DATE. AND MR. GRIFFIN HAS COME TO ME SEVERAL TIMES. WE'VE THROUGH OTHER COLLEAGUES HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS AT THIS POINT THAT IS NOT, JUST BECAUSE OF THE FUNDING SITUATION. IT'S NOT BECAUSE OF MICHAEL GRIFFIN. 
          WELL, I HOPE NO ONE THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT I WAS IMPLYING. I THINK THE WORLD IN ALL OF MIKE, I THINK HE'S A GREAT JOB OVER THERE. NO, MY QUESTION ONLY IS THAT YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUT TRAINING, TRAINING, TRAINING AND GETTING PEOPLE READY TO MOVE INTO THESE POSITIONS. THAT'S PRECISELY WHAT KENTUCKIANA WORKS IS CHARGED WITH, SO THE QUESTION WOULD BE, WHY WOULD THEY NOT DO THIS KIND OF TRAINING? AND I HEARD YOUR ANSWER, WHICH LEADS TO MY NEXT QUESTION. THEN I'VE ALSO HEARD YOU TALKING QUITE A BIT ABOUT YOU KNOW, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CONVERSATION. 
          WE'VE GOT TO START LOOKING AT THAT. THESE POSITIONS ARE IN SOME WAYS UNDERVALUED, AND THAT WE'VE GOT TO FIND A WAY TO, YOU KNOW, IMPROVE THOSE SALARIES AT AT WHAT POINT IN OUR, IMPROVING THOSE SALARIES WOULD WE BE ABLE TO TIP THE SCALE THAT WE COULD THEN REDUCE WHAT WE'RE SPENDING ON WORKFORCE TRAINING? BECAUSE NOW MICHAEL GRIFFIN AND HIS GROUP WOULD BE ABLE TO USE THOSE FEDERAL FUNDS TO DO THAT. SO AND I DON'T KNOW, THAT MIGHT BE TOO MUCH TO ASK TODAY, BUT IF YOU COULD GET US A SENSE OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, WHAT WOULD BE THE TIPPING POINT, THAT WE COULD THEN GO AND ASK THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT TO HELP US WITH SOME OF THE TRAINING. YEAH, I DEFINITELY THINK WE CAN FIND THAT ANSWER. THANK YOU. AND WE CAN WORK TOWARDS THAT GOAL. WE WANT TO WORK WITH KENTUCKY AND IT WORKS FOR SURE IN EVERY WAY POSSIBLE. I JUST KNOW THAT THAT'S BEEN A LIMITATION IN THE PAST. SURE THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS. THANK YOU. 
          I'VE BEEN A DAYCARE OWNER. THE SALARY FOR HAVING ME THERE IS, JUST NOT JUST SPEAKING TO IT. I WOULD SAY THAT, YOU DEFINITELY HAVE TO BE SELF SUSTAINABLE, YOU KNOW, I DO KNOW THAT, FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS, THAT THE GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN ASSISTING CHILDCARE CENTERS AND THAT SERVICE IS NOT ANY LONGER AVAILABLE. SO, THE CITY IS DEFINITELY GOING TO NEED SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO ASSIST CHILDCARE CENTERS TO BE MORE SELF SUSTAINABLE, AND WITH THAT FUNDING THAT THE STATE DID IMPLEMENT, EVEN A LITTLE BEYOND COVID ALLOWED DAYCARE OWNERS TO GIVE EMPLOYEES BETTER COMPENSATION, AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME. AND PEOPLE WONDER WHY CHILDCARE, THE TURNAROUND RATE, IS SO HUGE. DURING THAT TIME, THE TURNAROUND RATE WAS NOT HUGE, YOU KNOW, CHILDCARE CENTERS WERE ABLE TO BE SELF-SUSTAINABLE, BECAUSE OF THAT FUNDING. NOW THAT FUNDING, IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE, THERE IS GOING TO NEED TO BE SOMETHING IN PLACE TO HELP, THOSE CENTERS BE MORE SELF-SUSTAINING, ABLE. NOW THAT THAT HASN'T BEEN IN PLACE, I CAN FORESEE A LOT OF CHILDCARE CENTERS CLOSING, SO DEFINITELY, IF THERE IS NOTHING IN PLACE, I DON'T SEE CHILDCARE CENTERS SURVIVING, LONG, I KNOW THAT, JUST LOOKING AT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, EVERYTHING IS GOING TO PLAY A ROLE. SO EVERYTHING HAS TO BE LOOKED AT STRATEGICALLY, WHEN YOU HAVE EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, GOING UP, IN THE CITY AND IT IS, YOU'RE GOING TO DEFINITELY HAVE TO PAY PEOPLE SO THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SUSTAINABLE WAGES. AND I JUST DON'T SEE ANY CHILDCARE CENTER, AND I WILL BE COMING OUT OF THIS BUSINESS SOON, BUT I DON'T SEE ANY CHILDCARE CENTER, LASTING LONG. I DON'T CARE IF IT'S IN THE EAST END, IN THE WEST END. I DON'T CARE WHERE IT'S AT, IT WILL NOT SURVIVE WITHOUT SOMETHING BEING IMPLEMENTED. TO HELP THESE CENTERS. SO I'M IN FULL SUPPORT, BUT JUST SOMETHING JUST, YOU KNOW, STRATEGICALLY 
          [02:30:07]
STRUCTURED, BEING A, A NEW NONPROFIT, I STRUGGLE WITH THAT, BUT THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE SOMETHING IN PLACE OR ELSE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TOO MANY, CHILDCARE CENTERS, NO MATTER, WHOSE DISTRICT THEY'RE IN, THERE'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO SURVIVE IN THIS FIELD BECAUSE NOBODY IS GOING TO WORK IN CHILDCARE, BECAUSE THERE IS NO SUPPLEMENT INCOME THAT'S GOING TO HELP THOSE CENTERS SURVIVE ANY LONGER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU . ASHLEY, I DON'T KNOW IF I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT YOUR ORGANIZATION BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A NEW LIKE, A LOT OF COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE KIND OF REFERRED TO A NEW AND IT IS A NEW 500 AND 1C3, BUT YOU'RE CERTAINLY NOT NEW TO THE FIELD. SO NO, MAYBE MAYBE YOU COULD TELL US THAT FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT LIVE TO LIFE AND WHAT IN THEIR THEIR COMMITMENT TO EARLY CHILDHOOD. 
          YEAH. SO I RUN THE LIFT A LIFE NOVAK FAMILY FOUNDATION. WE FUND A LOT OF SPACES. EARLY CHILDHOOD IS OBVIOUSLY MY PERSONAL PASSION, BUT WE'VE WORKED FOR A LONG TIME WITH METRO UNITED WAY AND FAUCI. I'VE SERVED ON THE FAUCI BOARD, WORKING AT, PROVIDING PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT FOR CHILD CARE WORKERS, TRYING SOME WAGE SUPPLEMENTATION STUFF, JUST WORKING IN THIS SPACE. WE ALSO DO A LOT WITH FOOD INSECURITY. AND I'VE SERVED ON THE DARE TO CARE BOARD FOR EIGHT YEARS. WITH THE COMMUNITY KITCHEN, SO I'VE GOT A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN THE NONPROFIT SPACE, AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW IT'S A PRIVATE FAMILY FOUNDATION, BUT IT IT WAS A STARTUP. IT WAS AN UNMANAGED FUND. AND WE GOT STRATEGIC WITH THE WAY WE STARTED GIVING OUR, OUR OUR FUNDING AWAY TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IMPACT IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND I'M REALLY PROUD OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO HERE IN LOUISVILLE, BUT YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY WHEN IT COMES TO EARLY CHILDHOOD. IF I LEARNED ANYTHING IN COVID, IT WAS THAT THE RESOURCES, THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH RESOURCE IN EARLY CHILDHOOD PERIOD FOR THESE CHILD CARE CENTERS. AND I'VE VISITED MULTIPLE CHILD CARE CENTERS. AND THESE WOMEN WORK HARD. THEY ARE MINORITY BUSINESSWOMEN AND THEY ARE WORKING THEIR TAILS OFF TAKING CARE OF THESE CHILDREN, PROVIDING FAMILY SUPPORTS, DOING ALL SORTS OF WORK. THAT'S JUST CRITICALLY IMPORTANT FOR THAT YOUNG CHILD'S DEVELOPMENT. AND PREPARING THAT CHILD FOR SCHOOL, BUT ALSO ALLOWING THAT FAMILY TO GO WORK. AND A LOT OF TIMES IT'S WOMEN THAT ARE THE ONES THAT ARE NOT ABLE TO GO GO TO WORK BECAUSE OF THEIR CHILDREN. THEY WANT TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR KIDS. I HAVE AN INHERENT BELIEF THAT EVERY PERSON THAT HAS A CHILD WANTS TO TAKE CARE OF THAT CHILD AND SEE THE BEST FOR THAT CHILD, AND RIGHT NOW, QUALITY CHILD CARE IS ACCESSIBLE IN SOME AREAS OF OUR COMMUNITY, BUT IT'S REALLY NOT AFFORDABLE. AND THE BARRIERS THAT EXIST, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO LIMIT THOSE BARRIERS AND I THINK THRIVE BY FIVE IS A REALLY UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY FOR LOUISVILLE TO SEIZE THE DAY AND BE ABLE TO SHOW, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO BUILD THIS INFRASTRUCTURE. I AM NOT TRYING TO CREATE A NEW NONPROFIT THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE FUNNELING RESOURCES TO EXISTING PARTNERS THAT ARE DOING INCREDIBLE WORK. I'M TRYING TO CREATE A VESSEL THAT CAN COLLECT RESOURCES, BECAUSE IF THIS WAS A GOVERNMENT ENTITY, I COULDN'T GIVE IT TO IT. QUITE FRANKLY, WE LIKE THE OUR FAMILY FOUNDATION, COULD NOT GIVE, BUT BECAUSE IT'S A SEPARATE 500 AND 1C3, WE CAN PROVIDE FUNDING TO IT. AND THEN I KNOW IT CAN BE FUNNELED TO FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS AND A CHILD CARE DESERT OR TO A SCHOLARSHIP OPPORTUNITIES FOR A MOTHER WHO'S GOING BACK TO WORK BECAUSE SHE WANTS TO WORK, BRING AN INCOME IN. BUT HER CHILD IS ALSO AT THE CHILD CARE CENTER. 
          SO I THINK THAT THERE'S REALLY UNIQUE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO CREATE SOMETHING HERE. BUT WE DO WANT TO SEE LOUISVILLE, BE ABLE TO, TO SHOW THAT THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PRIORITY. I KNOW IT'S A PRIORITY FOR THE, THE MAYOR, AND I BELIEVE YOU KNOW, SERVING YOUNG FAMILIES IS A PRIORITY OF THIS COUNCIL. AND SO, YOU KNOW, ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT, YOU KNOW, I HAVE EXPERIENCE IN THIS SPACE NOW, HAVE I STARTED A NONPROFIT FROM SCRATCH? NO, BUT WE HAVE LOOKED AT BEST PRACTICE EVERYWHERE, AND SEEING WHAT THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO. BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT, I BELIEVE WE CAN MAKE A TREMENDOUS DIFFERENCE FOR. FOR ALL, LIKE, IT'S A MULTI, DISCIPLINARY APPROACH BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S GOING TO ALL DIFFERENT CHILD CARE CENTERS. IT'S NOT JUST THROUGH ONE ENTITY. IT'S GOING TO ALL THESE DIFFERENT BUSINESSES AND THE ENGAGEMENT THAT CAN HAPPEN. I THINK, IS JUST A WIN FOR THE COMMUNITY. IT'S A WIN FOR OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY. AND IT'S A WIN FOR OUR YOUNG FAMILIES. COUNCILWOMAN FOWLER, AND THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, ASHLEY, SO WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY IS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE AN INVESTMENT IN OUR FUTURE WITH, EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION AND PREPARING THESE KIDS TO BE SUCCESSFUL WHEN THEY 
          [02:35:05]
HIT KINDERGARTEN. MY DAUGHTER IS AN EARLY, CHILDHOOD EDUCATOR, CERTIFIED AND NATIONAL BOARD CERTIFIED. SHE SHE KNOWS I'VE SEEN HER WORK. AND IN SPECIAL ED ESPECIALLY IT IS A NEED. AND IF WE DON'T INVEST IT, WE'RE GOING TO BE SORRY LATER. COVID DID A NUMBER ON OUR EDUCATION SYSTEM AND A LOT OF THE, THE YOUNGER KIDS ARE ARE SUFFERING. THEY'RE SUFFERING NOW. AND WE NEED THIS PROGRAM. SO YOU HAVE MY FULL SUPPORT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN PARKER. 
          YES. THANK YOU. HI I HEARD YOU. I JUST WANTED YOU TO CLARIFY JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS. YOU I HEARD SEVERAL TIMES YOU MENTIONED IMPROVING EXISTING FACILITIES BRIEFLY EXPLAIN THAT. 
          ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT BRICK AND MORTAR? LIKE CLEANLINESS, FLOORING, BATHROOMS. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THERE? WELL, I THINK IT, I THINK I WHEN I WALKED IN, I BELIEVE MARIANA WAS OR LEANNE WAS TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY HAD ALREADY FUNDED WITH AN ARCHITECT FIRM, WHERE THEY COME IN AND DO AN EVALUATION OF CHILD CARE CENTER OF AN EXISTING CENTER, AND THEY SAY, HEY, HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT MAYBE CHANGING THE WAY YOU DO THIS ROOM, OR HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT AN ADDITION OVER HERE? OR WAY TO CHANGE, CHANGE THE ENVIRONMENT TO SERVE MORE CHILDREN. SO THAT INCREASES ACCESS. THERE'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALREADY BEEN FUNDED WHERE THIS CHILD CARE CENTER WILL THEN WALK AWAY WITH A PLAN FOR HOW THEY CAN DO THAT, HOW THEY CAN HAVE A CONTRACTOR COME IN AND DO THOSE KINDS OF CHANGES. AND WHAT , THRIVE BY FIVE CAN PROVIDE IS THE CAPITAL TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES IN THEIR CHILD CARE CENTER. NOW THERE'S A LOT OF DETAILS WE HAVE TO HAMMER OUT WITH THAT, BUT THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF HOW WE COULD IMPROVE EXISTING FACILITIES TO BE ABLE TO SERVE MORE CHILDREN. OKAY SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CONSTRUCTION COSTS. THERE AND THEN, I WAS ALSO THINKING IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL. I KNOW YOU'VE GOT THE BIG PICTURE IDEA, BUT FOR US THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET WRAP OUR HEADS AROUND THIS, IF YOU COULD GIVE US, LIKE, A BUSINESS PLAN WITH A BREAKDOWN, JUST A BALLPARK OF YOUR COST. I DIDN'T SEE IT IN ANY OF THE STUFF THAT YOU GUYS SENT OVER. I THINK THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL. AND THEN ALSO, COUNCILWOMAN, OR SOMEBODY ASKED ABOUT THE ACTUAL PROGRAM THAT IS THE STARS PROGRAM, OKAY. I LOOKED THAT UP AND THAT ALL I COULD FIND WAS THAT WAS A PROGRAM FOR AUTISM. SO IS IT DIFFERENT THAN THAT OR IT IS DIFFERENT? AND I MAYBE. LEANNE, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT. THERE'S A KENTUCKY STAR SYSTEM THAT EVERY REGISTERED, CHILD CARE FACILITY, AS WELL AS A FAMILY CHILD CARE HOME GET A IS RATED ON A STARS SYSTEM. OKAY. SO THAT'S A RATING PROGRAM. THAT'S NOT THE ACTUAL. 
          SORRY, THAT IS CONFUSING. NO IT'S NOT A TRAINING PROGRAM IS THE NAME OF THE TRAINING PROGRAM THAT YOU WANT TO USE. WELL, SO THERE'S NOT ONE CURRICULUM OR ONE TRAINING PROGRAM THAT WE'RE NOT ADVOCATING THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH THE EXISTING CHILD CARE CENTERS. THE PROGRAM THAT MAYBE YOU HEARD ASHLEY REFERRED TO IS A IS A WAGE SUPPLEMENTATION PROGRAM CALLED WAGES. THE S IS A DOLLAR SIGN THAT NORTH CAROLINA USED TO GREAT EFFECT TO RECRUIT AND RETAIN THE EARLY CHILDHOOD WORKFORCE, WHICH IS WHAT ASHLEY REFERRED TO. THAT WAS ABOUT $1.2 MILLION FOR THEIR SMALLER COUNTY . SO THAT WAS SOMETHING. AND I WON'T GO INTO THE DETAILS, BUT THEY'VE HAD ENORMOUS SUCCESS WITH THIS, WAGE STABILIZATION PROGRAM IS JUST A RATING SYSTEM. 
          I SHOULD CALL IT. IT'S A RATING SYSTEM THAT HAPPEN EVERY YEAR. IS THAT SOMETHING YOU WOULD FUND WHERE YOU WOULD GO INTO EVERY SINGLE? IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING. YEAH. NO. SO THE WAY IT WORKS IS THAT, IF YOU SIGN UP FOR THE ALL STARS PROGRAM, YOU GET A QUALITY COACH, WHICH IS FREE. THIS THE STATE FUNDS IT THROUGH UNIVERSITY OF KENTUCKY. THERE'S A WHOLE OFFICE HERE IN LOUISVILLE AT GTC WITH A GROUP OF COACHES WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY PROVIDER, CHILD CARE PROVIDER IN THE COUNTY WHO IS INTERESTED. THAT WILL HELP THEM NOT ONLY GET READY TO BE IN THE ALL STARS PROGRAM. THIS IS THE SAME THING WITH THEY ALSO SUPPORT, CHILD CARE CENTERS WHO WANT TO IMPROVE, BUT THEY WORK WITH THEM AND THEN THE STATE. SO THERE'S IT'S LIKE I TOLD YOU, IT'S A VERY DISCOMBOBULATED SYSTEM. SO THERE'S A COACHING SYSTEM THAT'S RUN OUT OF CHILD CARE AWARE, WHICH IS BASED AT THE UNIVERSITY OF KENTUCKY. BUT BUT IT'S REGIONAL. AND JEFFERSON COUNTY IS ITS OWN REGION. SO IT'S BASED AT GTC. THAT'S WHERE THE COACH IS. THE QUALITY 
          [02:40:04]
COACHES ARE WHO WILL SUPPORT ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO BE SUPPORTED. YOU WANT TO GET SIGNED UP, YOU CAN GET SIGNED UP AS A ONE STAR AND WE'LL HELP YOU FROM THERE. OR YOU WANT TO GET FROM A ONE STAR TO A TWO, THREE, FOUR AND FIVE STAR WILL HELP YOU WITH THAT. SO THE OTHER THING IS, IS, COMMUNITY COORDINATED CHILD CARE, WHICH IS FOUR C, WHICH YOU'VE HEARD ASHLEY, TALK ABOUT SEVERAL TIMES. THEY HAVE A SEPARATE POT OF MONEY WHERE THEY PROVIDE TRAINING AND COACHING FOR PEOPLE AND FAMILY. CHILD CARE HOMES, WHICH IS USUALLY 1 TO 12 CHILDREN IN HOME IN RESIDENTIAL HOMES WHERE THEY, WANT TO PROVIDE CHILD CARE IN THEIR HOME. AGAIN, IT'S A REGULATED STOP CHILD CARE BY THE STATE. SO I SAID THERE WERE TWO SEPARATE GROUPS. THERE'S THE COACHING THAT COULD COME FROM FOUR C OR COMMUNITY COORDINATED CHILD CARE. AND THIS OTHER ORGANIZATION, CHILD CARE, WHERE THESE RESOURCES ARE ALREADY THERE AND PEOPLE ARE ALREADY THEY KNOW THESE CHILD CARE PROVIDERS, THEY'RE ALL OVER, THEY'RE WORKING WITH THEM, AND THERE IS THE STATE THAT HAS DEPARTMENT OF REGULATED CHILD CARE, WHICH VISITS ONCE A YEAR, DOES ANNUAL INSPECTIONS TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE UP TO SPEED, HAVEN'T BROKEN ANY REGULATIONS. 
          OKAY THANK YOU. I THINK IF WE SAW LIKE SOME OF BUSINESS PLAN WITH MAYBE SOME IDEA OF YOUR BREAKDOWN BECAUSE I KNOW WEBSITES DON'T COST THAT MUCH. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IN THE OVERALL GRAND SCHEME OF THING, I KNOW YOU HAVE TO THROW THAT OUT THERE. BUT, YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE NICE. IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US TO UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU GUYS ARE COMING FROM A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFICALLY MONETARILY. MONETARILY. YEAH ABSOLUTELY. COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS . THANK YOU. CHAIR, I'M GOING TO SAY THIS, I'M SURE THIS COUNCIL, SOME PEOPLE MAY TAKE IT AS BEING A RISK TAKER. AND IN BUSINESS, YOU JUST HAVE TO BE, I THINK THAT. BUT WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A BUSINESS AND WHEN YOU'VE NEVER HAD A BUSINESS BEFORE, IT'S HARD FOR PEOPLE TO LOOK AT A DIFFERENT SET OF LENSES. OKAY AS A BUSINESS OWNER OF A CHILD CARE CENTER FOR OVER 15 YEARS, AGAIN, I WOULD SAY THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A NECESSITY. AND SO OFTEN WE WAIT UNTIL SOMETHING HAPPENS, BEFORE WE WANT TO JUMP IN AND ASSIST OR HELP. OR IF WE DON'T MAKE THE BEST CHOICES, YOU KNOW, THEN WE HAVE TO LOOK BACK AND WE HAVE TO SAY, DANG, WE SHOULD HAVE FUNDED THAT, I'M DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES, YOU KNOW, SAY THAT IT'S A RISK. IT'S, YOU KNOW, I GOING TO SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE I FORESEE, IN A FEW YEARS THAT, YOKNOW'RING TO  A LO OOPLE O OSI NSTITUENTS SAYING, I CAN'T GO TO WORK BECAUSE I CAN'T AFFORD CHILD CARE, CHILD CARE IS VERY EXPENSIVE. SO I SUPPORT THIS, AND I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE ENOUGH MONEY , EVEN FOR THE. CHILD CARE IS VERY EXPENSIVE. AND YOU JUST. 
          YOU GUYS HAVE MY SUPPORT BECAUSE IT IS A HUGE NEED, IN MY HEART GOES OUT TO, THE CHILD CARE OWNERS ALL OVER THE CITY THAT HAS BEEN ABLE TO SURVIVE, WITHOUT OUT THE, FUNDING THAT HAS BEEN THERE, I KNOW WITHIN THE LAST EIGHT MONTHS, SO I THINK WITH THIS WOULD BE A GREAT, SUPPORT SYSTEM, NOT TO HANDICAP, BUT JUST TO BE THAT VESSEL, IN THE NEED FOR, FOR THE COMMUNITY, FOR BUSINESS OWNERS, I THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT. SO YOU GUYS HAVE MY SUPPORT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THAT'S A GOOD POINT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE TIME. THANK YOU. THANK 
          [Adjournment
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YOU FOR YOUR TIME. WE, COMMITTEE MEMBERS WILL BE BACK TOMORROW AT 415 WITH, LOUISVILLE METRO ANIMAL SERVICES AT 415 ZOO. FOLLOWING THAT. THANK YOU. I SEE.
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