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WE WILL BE STARTING IN ABOUT 30S . BETSY. WE CAN RESTART. GOOD. NO, NO. WE WANT. I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT. YEAH WELL, THERE WASN'T MUCH OF A TURNOUT. WAS IT AN ELECTION? NO, IT WASN'T GOOD. WELL, MAYBE.
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OKAY. WE WILL BE STARTING. GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS IS THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE COMMUNITY AFFAIRS AND HOUSING, HEALTH AND EDUCATION COMMITTEE FOR WEDNESDAY, MAY THE 29TH, 2020.FOR IT COME TO ORDER, MADAM CLERK, WILL YOU READ THE MEETING ? NOTICE, PLEASE? THIS MEETING
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IS BEING HELD PURSUANT TO CRS 61.826 AND COUNCIL RULE FIVE, A READ IN FULL. THANK YOU. I'M THE[Roll Call]
CHAIR. COUNCILWOMAN BARBARAX. AND JOINING ME IS, MY VICE CHAIR . STEWART, COUNCILMAN STEWART.BILL ON THE VIRTUAL, COUNCILWOMAN TAMMY HAWKINS, COUNCILWOMAN MARILYN PARKER. AND WE ALSO HAVE COUNCILMAN ANDREW OWEN, COUNCILMAN COREY ARTHUR, COUNCIL WOMAN BETTY ROY AND COUNCILMAN DAN SAM. SO WE HAVE I THINK LET ME COUNT. WE HAVE FOUR. FOUR PIECES OF LEGISLATION. AND I WANT TO GET TO THE EASIEST ONE FIRST. AND THAT IS THE STREET SIGN. AND SO.
[5. R-049-24 A RESOLUTION HONORING DEVONE HOLT BY DEDICATING THE CORNER OF SOUTH 28TH STREET AND WEST BROADWAY AS “DEVONE HOLT WAY” IN HIS HONOR. Action Required By: November 2024 Sponsors: Tammy Hawkins (D-1), Jecorey Arthur (I-4)]
MADAM CLERK, CAN YOU READ NUMBER FIVE FIRST PLEASE. OUR DASH 04924A RESOLUTION HONORING DAVON HOLT BY DEDICATING THE CORNER OF SOUTH 28TH STREET AND WEST BROADWAY AS DAVON HOLT WAY IN HIS HONOR. WE HAVE A MOTION. SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON FROM THE SPONSORS? I CAN SPEAK TO IT, DAVON HOLT WILL BE LEAVING THE GOODWILL. HE IS A. HE'S BEEN A PILLAR IN THE COMMUNITY AND DEFINITELY A HUGE ADVOCATE, FOR THE GOODWILL, SINCE DAY ONE. SO, I SPOKE TO JAKARI ABOUT IT, HE WAS IN SUPPORT OF IT. AND I HOPE WHEN EVERYONE ELSE IS AS WELL.THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN ARTHUR, I'LL JUST QUICKLY ADD AND QUOTE COUNCILMAN OWEN THAT THIS GOODWILL CAMPUS IS THE MOST SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT, IN LOUISVILLE. AND AS DIVINE TRANSITIONS FROM GOODWILL, WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT HIS LEGACY IS NAMED NEAR THAT PROJECT. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND THANK HIM FOR ALL THE WORK THAT HE'S PUT IN. THANK YOU. WE'RE READY TO VOTE ON IT. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? ANY MORE DISCUSSION? NONE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SO WE WILL SEND THIS TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
OKAY. THE SECOND ONE. I WAS GOING TO GO WITH THE RESOLUTIONS FIRST BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT SIMPLER. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH NUMBER FOUR NEXT, MADAM CLERK, CAN YOU READ NUMBER FOUR,
[4. R-044-24 A RESOLUTION PURSUANT TO THE CAPITAL AND OPERATING BUDGET ORDINANCES APPROVING THE APPROPRIATION TO FUND THE FOLLOWING NONCOMPETITIVELY NEGOTIATED SOLE SOURCE CONTRACT FOR LOUISVILLE METRO PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELLNESS CONCERNING HIV TESTING EQUIPMENT AND RELATED KITS – (ROCHE DIAGNOSTICS CORPORATION – $87,759.00). Action Required By: November 2024 Sponsors: Jecorey Arthur (I-4) ]
PLEASE? OUR DASH 044, DASH TWO FOUR, A RESOLUTION PURSUANT TO THE CAPITAL AND OPERATING BUDGET ORDINANCES APPROVING THE APPROPRIATION TO FUND THE FOLLOWING NON-COMPETITIVELY NEGOTIATED SOLE SOURCE CONTRACT FOR LOUISVILLE METRO PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELLNESS CONCERNING HIV TESTING EQUIPMENT AND RELATED KITS ROCHE DIAGNOSTICS CORPORATION, $87,759. READ IN FULL MOTION. SECOND, THANK YOU. I KNOW WE HAVE SOMEONE HERE. CONNIE, CAN YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF? SURE. CONNIE MENDEL, DIRECTOR, INTERIM CHIEF HEALTH STRATEGIST, LOUISVILLE METRO PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELLNESS. SO WE ARE REQUESTING, FOR ROCHE A TO BE A NONCOMPETITIVE CONTRACT, CURRENTLY, JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND INFORMATION, WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEALTH LABORATORY ADJACENT TO THE DEPARTMENT WHERE WE DO A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED DISEASE AND INFECTION TESTING. A LOT OF THOSE ARE PATIENTS THAT THAT, COME TO OUR SPECIALTY CLINIC WHERE WE OFFER, TESTING AND TREATMENT REGARDLESS OF THE ABILITY TO PAY. AND WE ALSO WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH FAMILY HEALTH CENTERS AND TESTING THEIR PATIENTS FOR HELPING WITH THE TESTING, BUT IN PARTICULAR SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED DISEASES.SO THIS IS, US LOOKING TO DO THE HIV TESTING IN HOUSE. IT WOULD REQUIRE THE INSTRUMENTATION WE HAVE CHOSEN, WHAT IS THE MOST RELIABLE? WE ARE VERY EXPERIENCED WITH, WITH ROCHE.
THEY HAVE PROVIDED OTHER EQUIPMENT, THEY STAND BY IT, THEY MAINTENANCE IT AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. SO AND SO JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO, LAST YEAR WE SENT OUT, 7100 TESTS FOR HIV TESTING FOR US TO DO IT IN HOUSE. IT WILL BE MUCH LESS EXPENSIVE, WE ALSO PROVIDED ABOUT 12,000 TESTS FOR GONORRHEA. CHLAMYDIA, 6000 TESTS FOR SYPHILIS, TRICHOMONAS
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AND OTHER DISEASES. SO SO WE STILL SEE SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED INFECTIONS UNFORTUNATELY, IN THE METRO AREA. SO THIS WILL ALLOW US TO DO IT IN HOUSE AND GET THE RESULTS QUICKER. SO WE'RE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, SO OUR CLIENTS AND PATIENTS ARE ABLE TO GET THOSE RESULTS QUICKER AND BEGIN A TREATMENT PROGRAM. THANK YOU. LET ME ASK THIS BEFORE I CALL YOU FORWARD. WHERE WOULD THEY WHERE WOULD IT BE DONE? IS IT STILL ON GRACE STREET? THE LABORATORY IS ON GRACE STREET, YET WE SEE OUR PATIENT, THE SAMPLES ARE COLLECTED, THEIR SPECIALTY CLINIC THERE ON EAST MARKET AND THROUGH VARIOUS FAMILY HEALTH CENTERS. LOCATIONS SO WE PROVIDE TESTING FOR THESE.AND THIS WOULD BE AT A BASICALLY WHERE WE PROVIDE THAT FOR THEM AT COST. OKAY. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN ARTHUR, THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR WORK.
OKAY. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? OKAY. HEARING NO DISCUSSION. THEN WE'RE READY TO VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR? HI. HI. ANYONE OPPOSED? SO THIS WILL BE SENT TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ARE YOU ALSO GOING TO CONNIE? ARE YOU GOING TO ALSO SPEAK ON, NUMBER ONE? YES MA'AM. OKAY. OKAY SO THIS IS EXCITING FOR US. OH. YOU'RE READY? OH, YOU GOT TO READ IT. SORRY. I'M EXCITED. NOT ONE. PLEASE MADAM CLERK. OH, DASH 04924. IN THE ORDINANCE
[1. O-049-24 AN ORDINANCE APPROVING THE DISTRIBUTION OF MONEY AWARDED TO LOUISVILLE METRO GOVERNMENT FROM THE TOBACCO AND VAPING SETTLEMENT PAYOUTS FROM JUUL. 5/8/24 Equity, Community Affairs, Housing, Health and Education Committee Held 4/17/24 Equity, Community Affairs, Housing, Health and Education Committee Held 3/20/24 Equity, Community Affairs, Housing, Health and Education Committee Held 3/6/24 Equity, Community Affairs, Housing, Health and Education Committee Held Action Required By: August 2024 Sponsors: Barbara Shanklin (D-2) ]
APPROVING THE DISTRIBUTION OF MONEY AWARDED TO LOUISVILLE METRO GOVERNMENT FROM THE TOBACCO AND VAPING SETTLEMENT PAYOUTS FROM JUUL READ IN FULL. GREAT THANK YOU. OKAY, NOW, MISS CONNIE, ARE WE READY FOR YOU? YES. THANK YOU. SO WE'RE EXCITED TO BE RECEIVING, THESE SETTLEMENT FUNDS FROM JUUL AND HRA RELATED TO THE VAPING. I THINK WE CAN CALL IT AN EPIDEMIC AT THIS POINT, SO MANY OF OUR CHILDREN HAVE BEGUN VAPING, AS EARLY AS MIDDLE SCHOOL AGE AND YOUNGER, AND THESE COMPANIES HAVE BEEN PREDATORY IN NATURE AS FAR AS THEIR ADVERTISING THING, WHERE THEY'RE SELLING THESE PRODUCTS, WHICH HENCE THE SETTLEMENT DOLLARS. SO WE HAVE PUT TOGETHER A PLAN AND HOW TO USE THESE FUNDS TO HELP OUR ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES, THANKFULLY, METRO COUNCIL, YOU DID, PASSED AMENDMENTS TO OUR SMOKE FREE ORDINANCE TO INCLUDE THE E-CIGARETTES AND VAPING PRODUCTS. IN ADDITION TO THAT, LICENSES ARE REQUIRED FOR STORES THAT SELL TOBACCO PRODUCTS AND VAPING PRODUCTS. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR CREATING THOSE REGULATIONS. AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE STATE LIMITS US TO $10 PER LICENSE THAT WE CAN CHARGE. SO OBVIOUSLY THAT DOES NOT COVER THE COST OF THE WORK OF ENFORCING THOSE REGULATIONS. WE HAVE, AT LAST COUNT, AROUND 820 LICENSE FACILITIES. WE CONTINUE TO FIND THOSE THAT ARE OPERATING OUTSIDE OF THE LAW. THEY'RE NOT THEY'VE NOT RECEIVED THEIR LICENSE. AND ALSO, THANKFULLY, TO THE ZONING RULES THAT YOU ALL CREATED, THEY NEW FACILITIES CANNOT OPEN NEAR, CHILD OR YOUTH RELATED PLACES. SO WHETHER THAT BE A CHURCH, A DAYCARE, SCHOOLS, PARKS. SO LOOKING AT SO WHAT WE'RE WORKING TO DO IS, REALLY BEEF UP OUR ENFORCEMENT CAPABILITIES. SO, SINCE THE LICENSES DON'T ALLOW US THE FUNDING TO DO THAT, WE'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE THAT ABC OFFICERS HAVE BEEN SHARING IN SOME OF THE RESPONSIBILITY THEY'VE TAKEN THAT ON AS THEY'RE CHECKING FOR ALCOHOL PERMITS, THEY'RE ALSO ASKING BECAUSE IT'S SOME OF THE SAME PLACES THAT SELL TOBACCO, VAPING AND ALCOHOL PRODUCTS. SO THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THOSE LICENSES. THEY'RE ASKING FOR THOSE. WE'VE ALSO REACHED OUT AND PROVIDED TRAINING TO STATE ABC, AND OUR FOOD INSPECTORS. SO WE KNOW SOME OF OUR SOME OF THESE PLACES ALSO SELL FOOD. SO AS, AS OUR FOOD TEAM IS GOING OUT, THEY'RE ALSO DOING THIS WORK. SO WE'RE LOOKING, AGAIN, TO REALLY STRENGTHEN OUR ENFORCEMENT CAPABILITIES. AND I THINK THOSE ARE LISTED AS UNDER A, B AND C, THE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT TO INCLUDE, SOME UNDERAGE BUYING AUDITS. SO, GETTING YOUTH BETWEEN THE AGES OF 18 AND 23, SEEING IF THESE STORES SELL TO THEM AND, AND THEN CLOSING THOSE THAT DO OR, YOU KNOW, ISSUING THE VIOLATIONS AND MONITORING THOSE. SO THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO DO, WE HAD AN ALSO TO PAY FOR A SUPERVISOR TO HELP WITH THIS WORK. WE HAD NOT ADDED ANY STAFF[00:15:04]
WHEN WE TAKEN ON THESE RESPONSIBILITIES. SO JUST SOMEONE TO HELP US GET THROUGH THIS FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS, WE HAD LISTED UNDER F, WHICH I'M ASKING FOR THAT TO BE, MARKED THROUGH AT THIS TIME, AND WE'LL COME BACK TO IT LATER. WE DO WANT TO, TO WORK WITH PREVENTION, BUT THAT IS A MUCH WE NEED MORE RESEARCH ON THAT AREA, WE HAVE GOTTEN INITIAL, RESPONSES FROM JCPS THAT THEY SAID THEY WOULD PARTNER WITH US, BUT WE NEED SOME TIME TO DEVELOP THAT. BUT WE'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND ASK FOR YOUR PERMISSION AND SPENDING IT TO HELP WITH OUR ENFORCEMENT, WHAT DID YOU SAY THERE IN THE CITATION WOULD BE HOW MUCH WAS THE CITATION? IT VARIES ON OFFENSE, AND TO BE HONEST, I DON'T HAVE THAT MEMORIZED. DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT? THE CITATIONS. SORRY, AND THERE ARE SOME PLACES THAT WE FIND IN VIOLATION. WE'RE WORKING WITH THE JEFFERSON COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE CURRENTLY, FOR THOSE THAT ARE IN VIOLATION AS FAR AS SUSPENDING PERMITS OR. AND WE HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN SOME AREAS IN CLOSING, SOME OF THESE ESTABLISHMENTS, BUT OTHERS, UNFORTUNATELY, RIGHT NOW ARE CAUGHT UP IN THE COURT SYSTEM.BUT BUT WE'RE WE'RE SURE THAT THAT WE'RE PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT WE'LL WIN THOSE. OKAY. IT'S JUST A TIMELY PROCESS. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN ARTHUR. THANK YOU. I KNOW THAT OUR ORDINANCE DOES COVER VAPING IN PUBLIC SPACES, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE SOME PRIVATE BUSINESSES EITHER DON'T NECESSARILY COVER IT OR ENFORCE IT WHEN IT COMES TO VAPING. SO DO YOU PROVIDE SOME SORT OF EDUCATION TO PRIVATE BUSINESSES ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF REGULATING VAPING? YEAH, AND WE ARE WE WELCOME CALLS, REFERRALS FOR WHERE THAT IS GOING IN, AND WE ARE ABLE TO FIND THE ESTABLISHMENT AND, OR THE VAPOR, SMOKER. WE DID THAT A LOT DURING THE INCEPTION OF THE SMOKE FREE ORDINANCE WITH THE TOBACCO. SO YEAH, WE'RE WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO PROVIDE EDUCATION, DO SOME AUDITS, INSPECTIONS. BUT YOU'RE CORRECT, VAPING SHOULD NOT BE DONE INDOORS IN A PUBLIC PLACE OR ANY PLACE OF EMPLOYMENT. AND SHOULD BE WITHIN SO MANY FEET OF THE DOORS AND WINDOWS. BUT THAT'S PART OF THIS WILL HELP US WITH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE ENFORCEMENT OF THAT. ALSO DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING DISCUSSION OR COMMENTS OR WHATEVER? COULD I BE ADDED AS A CO-SPONSOR? YES. THAT OKAY. NO OTHER COMMENTS OR ANYTHING. THEN WE'RE READY TO VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHTY THEN. LET'S GET RID OF THE TWO RESOLUTIONS QUICK. AND THEN I FORGOT ABOUT THE ORDINANCE.
COUNCILWOMAN PARKER. YES. THANK YOU. YES OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN ANN HAWKINS. YES THANK YOU. VOTING IS CLOSED. VOTING IS CLOSED. YOU HAVE EIGHT YES VOTES. OKAY. THANK YOU, THAT, HEARING ANY MORE DISCUSSION, ANYTHING? WE'VE ALREADY VOTED. SO WE WILL SEND THIS TO ALL BUSINESS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NO, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE TO SEND IT TO ALL BUSINESS AND SEND IT TO THE CONSENT.
RIGHT. I'M SENDING IT TO THE CONSENT. OKAY WE HAVE ONE MORE. WE HAVE TWO. THAT WILL NOT BE, DISCUSSED TODAY. NUMBER TWO AND NUMBER SIX WILL NOT BE DISCUSSED TODAY. CAN YOU READ NUMBER
[3. O-064-24 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING LOUISVILLE/JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT CODE OF ORDINANCES, SECTION 92.02, TO GAIN CONFORMITY WITH STATE LAW PRECLUDING PROTECTIONS AROUND LAWFUL SOURCE OF INCOME DISCRIMINATION. 5/8/24 Equity, Community Affairs, Housing, Health and Education Committee Held 4/17/24 Equity, Community Affairs, Housing, Health and Education Committee Held Action Required By: October 2024 Sponsors: Jecorey Arthur (I-4) ]
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PRECLUDING PROTECTIONS AROUND LAWFUL SOURCE OF INCOME DISCRIMINATION. READ AND FULL MOTION. SECOND. THANK YOU. WE HAVE SOMEONE HERE THIS. I CAN INTRODUCE IT AND THEN PASS IT TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, IF THAT'S OKAY. YEAH. SO THIS PAST SESSION, THE STATE LEGISLATURE PASSED A LAW BANNING SOME OF OUR FAIR HOUSING ORDINANCE. METRO COUNCIL RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY SAYING THAT THEY COULD NO LONGER ENFORCE THAT ORDINANCE. I ASKED THEM TO REVIEW IT BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME PROTECTIONS THAT I THOUGHT WE COULD, AND THEY AGREED AND SAID YES. SO NOW WE'RE TRYING TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE TO MATCH STATE LAW, BUT ALSO MAKE IT CLEAR THERE ARE STILL PROTECTIONS THAT WE CAN HAVE. BEFORE WE GET INTO ANY QUESTIONS, I'D LIKE TO PASS THE MIC TO ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY JASON FOWLER FOR AN AMENDMENT THAT JUST CLARIFIES EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THIS ORDINANCE. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. AGAIN, ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY JASON FOWLER, AND HAPPY TO PRESENT TO YOU, AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT THAT BRINGS THIS BODY INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE RECENT CHANGE IN STATE LAW. THERE'S AN AMENDMENT CURRENTLY IN THE SYSTEM. IT'S AN AMENDMENT BY SUBSTITUTION. WE WENT BACK AND FORTH TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS LANGUAGE IS ACCURATE AND CONCISE AND BRINGS WITH US ALL THE PROTECTIONS THAT THAT WERE ORIGINALLY PASSED. THE, AMENDMENT IS SUPPORTED BY THIS OFFICE. WE ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND IF THERE ARE ANY SPECIFIC CHANGE OR QUESTIONS TO THE LANGUAGE, I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS THOSE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION BEFORE WE GET TO VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT? IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT HEARING? NONE. WE'LL VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT FIRST AND THEN WE'LL VOTE ON THE ORDINANCE . ALL IN FAVOR? THE MOTION FOR THE NEED A MOTION. THE AMENDMENT . THE AMENDMENTS BEEN VOTED. I MEAN, VOTED ON. NOW, IT'S NOT OKAY. NOW WE CAN VOTE ON AMENDMENT. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT. AYE, AYE. OKAY. OKAY NOW WE WILL VOTE ON. OH, WE ALREADY VOTED ON. NOW IT'S TIME TO VOTE ON. WE MET ON THE ORDINANCE. OKAY OKAY. COUNCILMAN SO I'M JUST TRYING TO LOOK AT THIS AGAIN. I NEED THE LANGUAGE. TO SO WE BASICALLY JUST LEFT THE LANGUAGE COURSE PARAGRAPH UNCHANGED, AND THEN EXCLUDED THE SPECIFIC EXCLUDE EXCLUDED THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE OF THE KIND OF SECOND HALF OF THE OF THE OF THE PARAGRAPH OR SECOND HALF OF THAT SENTENCE. IS THAT, IS THAT BASICALLY WHAT'S BEING DONE HERE. SO, SO WE'RE, WE'RE EXCLUDING THE LANGUAGE THAT TALKS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT SECTION EIGHT VOUCHERS AND HOUSING SYSTEM. BUT STATE LOCAL PUBLIC ASSISTANCE OR HOUSING ASSISTANCE, IT SEEMS IT'S JUST IT SEEMS INTERESTING CHOICE OF LANGUAGE TO ME. CAN YOU KIND OF BE A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT THIS DOES AND DOESN'T DO? AND I HEAR YOU SAY IT BRINGS IT INTO TO ALIGNMENT WITH THE STATE, THE HOUSE BILL THAT WAS PASSED OR THE STATE, LEGISLATURE AT THE STATE LEGISLATURE. BUT CAN YOU TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT WHAT THIS ENDS UP DOING? I'M GLAD TO TAKE THE QUESTION. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN OWEN, THE STATE LEGISLATURE EVER PASSED THROUGH EMERGENCY ACT THE FOLLOWING LANGUAGE, AND IT PROHIBITS A LOCAL GOVERNMENT FROM ADOPTING OR ENFORCING AN ORDINANCE OR REGULATION THAT PROHIBITS ANY OWNER FROM REFUSING TO LEASE OR RENT THEIR PREMISES WHEN THAT PERSON RECEIVES FEDERAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE. SO PREVIOUS TO THAT TIME, WE AND THIS BODY ENACTED PROTECTIONS THAT PREVENTED FOLKS FROM DISCRIMINATE AGAINST SOURCE OF INCOME. THE POINT WAS TO SAY, YOU CAN'T USE THAT ISSUE DIRECTLY TO EXCLUDE SOMEONE FROM HOUSING. THAT LED TO SOME CASES[00:25:06]
HERE LOCALLY THAT LED TO SOME ACTION IN FRANKFORT TO PREEMPT OUR ABILITY TO STOP LANDOWNERS FROM DOING WHAT THEY WERE DOING. SO TO BRING OUR ORDINANCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW, WE WERE DIRECTED TO NOT ADOPT OR ENFORCE IN ORDINANCE REGARDING FEDERAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE. SO WHEN I LOOKED AT THE LANGUAGE IN PARTICULAR, I SAW THAT THERE WAS SOME CATCHALL LANGUAGE AT THE END OF THE CLAUSE THAT I TRIED TO CLEAN UP WITHOUT LEAVING ANYTHING ON THE TABLE, THAT THIS BODY WAS AUTHORIZED TO PROTECT. DOES THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION, COUNCILMAN? AND I HATE TO CALL YOU OUT. SO WHEN I WENT TO JASON AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, ONE OF THE EARLIER VERSIONS, WE WENT BACK AND FORTH BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE STRUCK SOME OF OUR LOCAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS AND STATE ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS. BUT THE STATE LAW IS JUST SAYING FEDERAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE. SO WE DIDN'T WANT TO BASICALLY TAKE AWAY OUR ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO HELP PROTECT PEOPLE WHO DO GET LOCAL AND DO GET STATE ASSISTANCE. SO WITH THE AMENDMENT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR FEDERAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE IS NO LONGER ALLOWED, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE STATE LEGISLATURE SAYS.EVERYTHING ELSE IS STILL OKAY. AND IF ANYONE HAS SUGGESTIONS ON WHAT MIGHT MAKE THAT MORE CLEAR, I'M OPEN TO HEARING THEM. BUT I THINK WHAT JASON DRAFTED MAKES SENSE. CAN I SPEAK? YES SURE.
CAN I CAN I SPEAK? YES OKAY. OKAY. SO I MEAN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. JUST HELP ME OUT HERE. SO, THIS IS TELLING LANDLORDS THAT, IF THEY DON'T WANT TO TAKE SECTION EIGHT, THEY CAN'T JUST BLATANTLY SAY I DON'T TAKE SECTION EIGHT. CORRECT, I'M ASKING THAT. I'M ASKING TWO QUESTIONS IN ONE. AND THEN MY NEXT THING OF IT IS, IS OKAY, EVERYBODY ON ONE END SAYS WE NEED HOUSING, RIGHT, SO I THINK IF CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THIS WOULD ALIGN RIGHT IN LINE WITH THAT. IF, IF WE NEED HOUSING SO BAD, YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA PICK, PICK AND CHOOSE SOMETIMES. WHAT'S THAT? WE WANT TO BE ON, BECAUSE IF WE TRULY NEED HOUSING, THEN, YOU KNOW, I DO AGREE WITH THAT. WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO PUT PARAMETERS AROUND, AND PICKING AND CHOOSING WHAT KIND OF HOUSING AND WHAT KIND OF FUNDING PEOPLE WANT TO TAKE. IF PEOPLE CAN PAY FOR HOUSING THROUGH LMA, THEN I THINK THAT PEOPLE SHOULD TAKE THAT, YOU KNOW, AND THEN IF THEY DON'T, WHATEVER, THEN THEIR LEASE, STIPULATIONS IF THEY DON'T GO BY THOSE GUIDELINES, THEN THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER THING. BUT, YOU KNOW, ON ONE END, WE CAN'T SAY WE NEED HOUSING, BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH LMA, IT ISN'T JUST APARTMENTS. IT'S A DIVERSE, YOU KNOW. SO I THINK THAT THAT IF I MEAN, HELP ME OUT JACORY IS THIS IS THAT WHAT THIS IS DOING OR AM I RIGHT ALIGNED? I MEAN, I THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT THE MAYOR WANTS MORE. EVERYBODY SCREAMS, WE NEED MORE HOUSING. I THINK THAT IF WE DON'T DO THIS, THIS WILL LIMIT IT, SOME OF THE HOUSING. AND WE DON'T NEED MORE LIMITING HOUSING IF THERE IS A NEED FOR HOUSING. LET ME ASK THIS, YOU SAID THIS IS GOING TO ELIMINATE IT. FEDERAL. THAT'S SECTION EIGHT, RIGHT? SO THE STATE DID THAT.
THE STATE PASSED A LAW SAYING THAT WE CAN NO LONGER ENFORCE OR PASS ORDINANCES THAT WOULD ESSENTIALLY PROTECT PEOPLE'S SOURCE OF INCOME BASED ON FEDERAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE. SO WE HAVE NO CHOICE WHETHER WE PASS THIS AMENDMT OR NOT. WE CANNOT ENFORCE THIS LAW ANYMORE.
WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS PROTECT THE OTHER SOURCES OF INCOME THAT ARE IN THE ORDINANCE THAT METRO COUNCIL PASSED A FEW YEARS AGO, BECAUSE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY EMAILED US AND SAID AND SAID, HEY, WE CAN'T ENFORCE THIS ORDINANCE ANYMORE. BUT REALLY, THEY CAN. THEY JUST CAN'T ENFORCE THE PART THAT SAYS FEDERAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE. SO IF IT'S NOT SECTION EIGHT, WHAT DO YOU ENFORCE IT? SO OTHER HOUSING ASSISTANCE INCLUDES LOCAL AND STATE HOUSING ASSISTANCE. WE ALSO HAVE OTHER SOURCES OF INCOME LIKE CHILD SUPPORT, ALIMONY, FOSTER CARE SUBSIDIES. AND THAT DEFINITION IS AT THE BOTTOM OF PAGE ONE WHERE IT SAYS LAWFUL SOURCE OF INCOME. I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT WHAT DOES CHILD SUPPORT AND ALL THAT HAVE TO DO WITH RENTING A
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PLACE. SO PEOPLE USE THESE OTHER SOURCES OF INCOME TO PAY FOR RENT. AND WHEN METRO COUNCIL PASSED AN AMENDMENT TO THEIR FAIR HOUSING ORDINANCE, I WASN'T HERE, BUT WHEN YOU PASS THIS AMENDMENT, I THINK IN 2020, YOU PROTECTED ALL OF THESE SOURCES OF INCOME. THE STATE LEGISLATOR JUST EARLIER THIS YEAR SAID WE NO LONGER WANT YOU TO PROTECT THAT SPECIFIC SOURCE OF INCOME, WHICH IS FEDERAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE. OKAY BUT I THINK IN A WAY THAT'S GOING TO PUT THEM IN A BIGGER BIND IN A WAY. HUM BUT THAT'S JUST MY OPINION, RIGHT? AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, AGAIN, THE STATE GOT RID OF THAT LOCAL ORDINANCE THAT METRO COUNCIL PASSED. SO WE'RE NOT TAKING IT AWAY OURSELVES. THE STATE ALREADY TOOK IT AWAY. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO PROTECT THOSE OTHER SOURCES OF INCOME THAT PEOPLE COULD GET DISCRIMINATED AGAINST FOR. OKAY, COUNCILMAN. OKAY, OKAY. IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS? SO WE'VE ALREADY VOTED ON THE AMENDMENT, RIGHT. SO READY. WE JUST WANT TO VOTE ON THE ON THE ORDINANCE THREE. NO, NO OTHER DISCUSSION. DID I MISSED YOU, DAD? YEAH. THANK YOU. DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? DAN NO. OKAY, OKAY. VOTING IS OPEN. COUNCILWOMAN PARKER. YES YES. AND, IT'S NOT COMING ACROSS MY SCREEN. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS ARE DOING THAT OR NOT, SO I GUESS WE'RE. THERE. WE GO.GOTCHA COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS. YES. I'M SORRY. YES OKAY, OKAY. THANK YOU. VOTING IS CLOSED.
VOTING IS CLOSED. SO. YEAH, THE EIGHT YES VOTES. EIGHT YES VOTES. AND SO WE WILL SEND THIS TO, OLD BUSINESS BECAUSE IT HAS AN AMENDMENT. RIGHT? RIGHT. VERY GOOD. OKAY. SO WE HAVE NO OTHER BUSINESS BEFORE US AGAIN. NUMBER SIX IN IN NUMBER TWO WOULD NOT BE HEARD TODAY. SO THE MEETING
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IS ADJOURNED. IT'S OVER WITH. YOU DID G