May 23, 2024 Budget Hearings FY 2024-2025

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[ ID 24-0281     Office of Resilience and Community Services]

AND THEN WHY, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE INTENDING TO DO MOVING FORWARD OR IS THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S, JUST FOR THIS YEAR. SO THAT'S CDBG FUNDING IS IN THE OFFICE OF HOUSING. OH IT'S IN THE HOUSE. OKAY. GOTCHA ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN ARTHUR, THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE PASSED AN ORDINANCE RELATED TO THE RIGHT OF COUNCIL, FOR LEGAL AID SUPPORT. AND IT

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YES. I AGREE WITH YOU. YOUR FUNDING CUTS ARE NEVER EASY. WE ARE HEARING THAT. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE KNOW IS, EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THE BUDGET, THERE'S A CONSTITUENCY FOR THOSE THINGS. WHEN YOU CUT, YOU FIND OUT WHO THAT IS. SO I APPRECIATE THE DIFFICULTY OF MAKING THOSE CALLS, COUNCILMAN OWEN, YOU'RE ACTUALLY. THANKS, CHAIR. YOU ACTUALLY ASKED THE EXACT QUESTION I WAS GOING TO ASK. SO I'M SURE I'LL HAVE OTHERS, BUT I'LL GO TO THE BACK OF THE LINE.

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IT. IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHICH. WHAT MY DAY ENTAILS. SO I'VE GONE INTO CAMPS AND SUITS. I'VE GONE TO CAMPS IN JEANS AND A POLO. IT JUST KIND OF DEPENDS ON WHAT THE DAY BRINGS FOR ME.

OKAY, I'LL, I'LL I'LL HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU OFF GUARD ABOUT THAT. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF THAT WAS SOMETHING WE WERE PAYING FOR. OF COURSE, MY OTHER QUESTION IS ABOUT, THE FOOD JUSTICE, GROUPS LIKE HOPE VILLAGE, ARCHER STREET HOTEL RECEIVED FOOD AND SUPPORT, FROM GROUPS LIKE FEED LOUISVILLE. AND I JUST WANTED TO SEE I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S I DON'T HAVE MY NOTES WITH ME, BUT HIS FEED LOUISVILLE A PART OF THE BUDGET. HAVE YOU ALL TALKED ABOUT THAT? BECAUSE THEY DO PROVIDE A LOT OF SUPPORT AND SERVICES FOR HOMELESS, UNHOUSED AND UNSHELTERED THINGS THAT RCS DEALS WITH. THEY ARE A PARTNER FOR RCS, WE DO NOT FUND THEM THROUGH HSD FEED LOUISVILLE. THAT'S CORRECT. RIGHT OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN PARISH WHITE, WE DO SEE THAT THEY ARE RECOMMENDED FOR FUNDING THROUGH THE EIF PROCESS. AS A ADDED NOTE, OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT WAS MY QUESTION. THANK YOU. MA'AM THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN, AND THANK YOU FOR PIVOTING. AND, WHEN YOU STARTED TO STEER AWAY FROM BUDGET QUESTIONS AND PIVOTED AND SAID, YOU'LL FOLLOW UP LATER, I APPRECIATE THAT, WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY COUNCILWOMAN RENA WEBBER, COUNCILWOMAN PIAGENTINI, COUNCILWOMAN CHAPPELL AND COUNCILWOMAN FOWLER VIRTUALLY. COUNCILMAN KRAMER, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, I'D TWO JUST QUICK QUESTIONS, I'M LOOKING AT CAPITAL PROJECTS. THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY FUNDED FOR COMMUNITY SERVICES. THE BALANCE FOR THOSE TWO. ONE WAS, REBOUND PROJECT, AND THE OTHER WAS NSAA SHAWNEE, THE TOTAL AMOUNT FOR THOSE TWO, WAS 18,259. AND THEY THERE IS A BALANCE, AND THE BALANCE HAS BEEN SITTING THERE FOR A WHILE, IS IT SAFE TO ASSUME THAT THESE PROJECTS ARE FINISHED AND THIS. YES THOSE HAVE BEEN EXPENDED, THERE IS A PROCESS OF RECONCILIATION DUE TO CHANGES IN SOFTWARE, BUT THOSE FUNDS HAVE BEEN ABSORBED. OKAY.

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OKAY NOT FOR ROSE. OKAY. AND THEN LAST YEAR WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT RENTAL ASSISTANCE. AND I REMEMBER MARILYN HARRIS MENTIONED, WELL, NEXT YEAR WILL BE THE YEAR TO REALLY WORK ON THAT. WOULD THAT BE A QUESTION FOR THE OFFICE OF HOUSING OR COULD YOU ALL TALK ABOUT RENTAL ASSISTANCE, WE CAN DEFINITELY SPEAK ABOUT THAT. AS FAR AS, HOW OUR CSS IS GOING TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT. SO WILL THAT FUNDING BE DISTRIBUTED FROM YOUR DEPARTMENT ? YES IT WILL, YES. AND IN FY 25, WE KNOW THERE WAS A PARTNERSHIP WITH CSS AND OFFICE OF HOUSING FOR EVICTION PREVENTION, USING THOSE FEDERAL ARP DOLLARS. AND SO, IT WAS BASICALLY A CONCURRENT OPERATION. WE HAD OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PLAY SITES AROUND THE COUNTY, HELPING WITH EVICTION PREVENTION AND, RENT STABILIZATION. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, OFFICE OF HOUSING WAS WORKING WITH COMMUNITY MINISTRIES TO ALSO EXTEND THAT FEDERAL FUNDING. NOW, WITH THE FEDERAL FUNDING WINDING DOWN AND MOST OF THAT, ALREADY HAVING BEEN EXPENDED, WE'RE GOING TO STILL CONTINUE THE SERVICE THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PLAY SITES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

I'VE BEEN JOINED BY PRESIDENT WINKLER VIRTUALLY, AND COUNCILWOMAN HOPKINS IN THE CHAMBERS. COUNCILMAN PIAGENTINI, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THIS MAY HAVE BEEN ALREADY, I THINK, IN SOME OF YOUR OPENING COMMENTS AND ALSO FOR WALKING IN WHEN THAT HAPPENED. BUT I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING, I WAS GOING TO ASK A QUESTION ABOUT CBDG FUNDS, 2 MILLION OF WHICH WHICH BEING USED FOR OPERATING VERSUS CAPITAL. RIGHT. THEY SAID THAT'S HOUSING. CORRECT. SO THAT'S NEXT THURSDAY AFTERNOONS BUDGET HEARING. CORRECT YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN I'LL TAKE YOUR WORD FOR IT OKAY. AND THEN, I KNOW THERE ARE SEVERAL ART PROJECTS. I, IT LOOKS LIKE

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OKAY. I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, AS PART OF THAT ACTIVITY, IT'S NUMBER ONE, STRATEGICALLY CONSIDERED AND THAT THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE BUDGET THAT IS, I'LL JUST CALL IT OUTCOME OF THE OUTCOME FOCUSED. RIGHT, SO HOMELESS SERVICES IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE. WE DO A LOT OF WORK AROUND HOMELESSNESS SERVICES, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD WORK BEING DONE.

QUESTION IS, IS IT ULTIMATELY ACHIEVING THE GOAL? AND I KNOW THE DEPUTY MAYOR AND OTHERS ARE WORKING ON THIS EXACT QUESTION. I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE YOU IN THE BUDGET TO CONTINUE TO, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THESE EVALUATION GOING ON BOTH AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL. WHAT'S THE OUTCOME? WE'RE GOING FOR LESS, PEOPLE THAT ARE UNHOUSED, LESS PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING ON THE STREET. RIGHT. AND THEN BACKING UP FROM THAT, BEING ABLE TO EVALUATE EACH ONE OF THESE PROGRAMS. I'M NOT GOING TO GO LINE BY LINE THROUGH THEM HERE, BUT BUT, YOU KNOW, THEORETICALLY I WANT TO THERE'S A PART OF ME THAT DOES WANT TO GO PROJECT BY PROJECT THROUGH THIS AND SAY, WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE ACTUAL IMPACT ON THIS PROJECT VERSUS THIS OTHER PROJECT? SHOULD WE FUND THIS PROJECT MORE THAN THAT ONE. AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE THERE YET, BUT MAYBE GOING INTO THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE, IF WE COULD JUST KEEP THIS IN THE BACK OF OUR HEAD AND TRY TO GET THAT KIND OF INFORMATION, I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL IN HOW THIS EVOLVES, PARTICULARLY WITH THE MAYOR'S, MOVEMENT TOWARD QUESTIONING INERTIA, AS HE CALLED IT. SO THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. COUNCILMAN KRAMER, THANK YOU, I ASK A QUESTION OF, OCEAN YESTERDAY AND WAS TOLD THAT IT WASN'T THEIRS IS THE YOUTH AMBASSADORS LEADING LOUISVILLE PROGRAM. IS THAT YOU? KNOW YOU KNOW WHAT? WHEN I LEAVE THIS MEETING TODAY, I'M GOING TO TALK TO PEOPLE WHO DO KNOW WHO HAS THAT. THANK YOU. AND WE CAN CERTAINLY RESEARCH THAT AND GET AN ANSWER BACK TO YOU WITH, OUR OWN RESEARCH. THANK YOU. I'LL FIND IT. THANK YOU. PRESIDENT WINKLER. THANK YOU, CHAIR BLACKWELL. AND THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. I WANT TO PIGGYBACK A LITTLE BIT OFF COUNCILMAN ARTHUR'S QUESTION EARLIER, CAN YOU TOUCH ON THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF EVICTION PREVENTION MONEY IN THE BUDGET? AND WHAT WHAT, SORT OF THE HIGH LEVEL LINE ITEMS ARE FOR THOSE? I KNOW YOU MENTIONED LEGAL AID, FOR EXAMPLE, IS IN THE GENERAL FUND. YES SO AS FAR AS, EVICTION PREVENTION OR WHAT WE CALL RENT STABILIZATION, AS I MENTIONED, OUR, OUR VERY DEDICATED NEIGHBORHOOD PLACE STAFF ARE WORKING IN THAT PROGRAM, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT BUDGET, THERE'S $879,000 COMING OUT OF GENERAL FUNDS FOR RENT STABILIZATION. THERE'S ANOTHER $105,000 IN WHAT WE CALL HOPE ASSISTANCE, WHICH IS SPECIFICALLY ASSISTANCE FOR THE ELDERLY OR THOSE WITH DISABILITIES, SO IT BRINGS OUR TOTAL TO JUST AROUND A MILLION FOR THE YEAR BETWEEN THOSE TWO PROGRAMS. AND IS THAT THE ENTIRETY? WELL, THAT CAN'T BE THE ENTIRETY, BECAUSE YOU ALREADY MENTIONED THAT YOU HAD, LEGAL AID AS AN EXAMPLE. RIGHT? SO I WAS JUST SPEAKING ABOUT THE DIRECT ASSISTANCE TO, TO THE COMMUNITY, SO INDIVIDUALS WHO WOULD COME IN SEEKING ASSISTANCE AND THEN WOULD WORK WITH OUR, OUR TEAMS TO, APPLY FOR THE ASSISTANCE, BUT ALSO RECEIVE ESSENTIAL SERVICES LIKE CASE MANAGEMENT, WE DO VIEW LEGAL AID AS AN ESSENTIAL PART OF THAT CONTINUUM, AS FAR AS RIGHT TO COUNSEL AND PROVIDING REPRESENTATION IN EVICTION COURT , SO, SO THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PIECE. BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE JUST DIRECT ASSISTANCE COMING THROUGH OUR, THROUGH OUR CS. YEAH. AND HOW DOES THAT SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S 879 AND 105. SO LET'S CALL IT A MILLION ROUND NUMBER. RIGHT. HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO, LAST YEAR. WELL, AND I WOULD, HAVE TO, TO GET BACK TO YOU WITH THE EXACT NUMBER THAT WAS AVAILABLE THROUGH ALL, AVENUES LAST YEAR. BUT IT WAS DEFINITELY IN THE MILLIONS. AND THAT WAS BECAUSE WE HAD ERAP DOLLARS, BASICALLY, FEDERAL COVID CARES OR ARP FUNDING, THAT JUST INFUSED A VERY LARGE AMOUNT OF EVICTION PREVENTION RENTAL ASSISTANCE, DOLLARS IN THE COMMUNITY. AND AS WE DISCUSSED BEFORE, THAT WAS BEING DISTRIBUTED BOTH THROUGH RCS AND OFFICE OF HOUSING, SO WHAT WE KNOW IS THAT GOING FORWARD, AS THOSE FUNDS ARE EXPENDED, THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THE

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YEAH. SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND AND I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO HAVE THIS ANSWER NOW. BUT I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND ACROSS ALL DEPARTMENTS, WHAT IS THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF EVICTION MONEY, BOTH THROUGH DIRECT ASSISTANCE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE LEGAL AID OR ANY OTHER SORT OF EVICTION PREVENTION, MONEY, THAT WOULD BE SOME BE SOMEWHERE ELSE. HOW THAT COMPARES TO THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, AND THEN WHAT WE ANTICIPATE TO HAPPEN, WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THAT DELTA. RIGHT, YOU KNOW, HAS THE NEED GONE AWAY? IF NOT, DO WE ANTICIPATE EVICTIONS TO SKYROCKET, SO I'D LIKE TO SORT OF UNDERSTAND, WHERE WE WERE, WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT WE THINK IS GOING TO HAPPEN. WELL, AND, COUNCILMAN, WE CAN CERTAINLY, DEVELOP KIND OF A DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR COMPARISON OR ANALYSIS AND GET THAT BACK TO YOU VERY QUICKLY. BUT, SPEAK TO YOUR SECOND QUESTION, I MEAN, I THINK KIND OF THE MOST, BASIC ANSWER IS THAT, MORE FUNDING IS HELPFUL, WE KNOW THAT AT THE INFUSION OF FEDERAL DOLLARS, TO REALLY SUPPORT EVICTION PREVENTION WAS WELCOME, IT WAS HELPFUL, AND CERTAINLY BENEFITED THE COMMUNITY, SO WE KNOW THAT, THAT FUNDING WAS, WAS WELL UTILIZED AND WAS BENEFICIAL TO THE COMMUNITY. SO WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO REALLY EXPLORE OUR STRATEGIES. AND, THE TEAM HAS ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSING HOW WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WITH THE FUNDING THAT WE HAVE IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, THAT WE CAN PROVIDE THE MOST IMPACTFUL ASSISTANCE POSSIBLE. AND SO THAT INVOLVES THINGS LIKE, DOING SOME ADDITIONAL FRONT END ASSESSMENT, TO LOOK AT HOW WE ASSESS THOSE WHO CAN BENEFIT MOST FROM THE PROGRAM. AND ALSO WE ARE EXPLORING WAYS, AGAIN WITHIN OUR BUDGET TO PROVIDE MORE INTENSIVE CASE MANAGEMENT AND MORE DIRECT CLIENT ASSISTANCE IN TERMS OF OUR SERVICES, SO THAT WE CAN HELP FOLKS MAKE THE BEST OF THE FUNDING THAT WE HAVE, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT WAYS THAT WE CAN KIND OF INTENSIFY OR STEP UP THE SERVICES WE PROVIDE, AND THEN FINALLY, WE ARE, AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, ERIN MOSS PRESENT, WHO IS OUR DATA ANALYST AND DOES A WONDERFUL JOB WITH OUR DASHBOARD, WE'RE ALWAYS REFINING HOW WE CAN MEASURE OUTCOMES AND OUTPUTS, BUT ALSO THE LONGITUDINAL IMPACT, SO WE'RE EXPLORING WAYS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT IMPACT, NOT JUST AT THE TIME THAT SERVICES END, BUT GOING OUT. MAYBE THREE, SIX MONTHS OR EVEN BEYOND TO SEE, THE IMPACT OF THE SERVICE AS A POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE. YES COUNCILMAN, I KNOW THAT HARRISON KIRBY, WHO'S THE HEAD OF STRATEGIC INITIATIVES FOR THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION, HAS A TOTAL AMOUNT OF BACK RENT FOR THE COMMUNITY IN LOUISVILLE THAT'S CURRENTLY IN ARREARS BASED ON SCRAPING COURT RECORDS. SO I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I KNOW THAT THAT EXISTS, AND WE CAN GET THAT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. YEAH. SO JUST TO WRAP IT UP, I MEAN, AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE AND I GET IT MAY NOT BE POSSIBLE TO, TO NAIL IT DOWN. EXACTLY. BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE PEOPLE THAT NO LONGER NEED EVICTION ASSISTANCE BECAUSE THEY NEEDED IT, YOU KNOW, DUE TO JOB IMPACTS FROM COVID. YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE ESSENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, BEHIND US, BUT I WOULD LIKE SOME LEVEL OF EXTRAPOLATION OF, WHAT THAT GAP IS AND WHAT THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS OF THAT GAP ARE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE WILL WORK ON THAT. AND PROVIDE INFORMATION AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN. COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS, THANK YOU. CHAIR. THANKS FOR BEING HERE TODAY, I WANT TO TOUCH ON JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, MY COLLEAGUE ARTHUR. I KNOW LAST YEAR, HE, ALLOCATED FUNDS TO YOUR DEPARTMENT FOR, I BELIEVE, LIKE, SHELTERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. IS THAT CORRECT? JACORY OKAY. ALL RIGHT, IS THERE A ITEM LINE IN THE BUDGET? BECAUSE I KNOW, THAT IT'S JUST NOT GONE. BALANCE, EVICTION, WITHIN THE PAST YEAR, THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL REASONS THAT THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN LEFT HOMELESS, IT IT, FOR EXAMPLE, REASONS OF, LMA SECTION EIGHT, EVICTING PEOPLE AND PUTTING THEM OUT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T RESEARCH WHICH IS NOT A GOOD REASON TO EVICT SOMEBODY BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T RESEARCH IT, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'VE BEEN ON THIS PROGRAM FOR 10 OR 15 YEARS. RIGHT, SO CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT OR DO YOU HAVE ANY TYPE OF PROGRAM OR ITEM LINE IN THE BUDGET THAT FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES SUCH AS, IF AND NOT JUST IN DISTRICT ONE, IN EVERY DISTRICT, IF A HOUSE CAUGHT ON FIRE OR DO YOU DO WE HAVE PARTNERS, OUTSIDE OF HOTEL OR JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF

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WE ARE LOOKING FOR A COLLABORATIVE REASON. I THINK OUR ROLE IS CONNECTION AND MITIGATION OF RISK AND RESPONDING RIGHT, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. IT'S JUST I'VE BEEN HERE MAYBE A YEAR AND A HALF, AND I ASKED THE SAME QUESTION LAST YEAR TO OFFICE FOR SAFETY, HEALTHY NEIGHBORHOODS. AND I ASKED THEM, DID THEY POLICEHE NONPROFITS, AND THEY TOLD ME NO, THAT THEY NEEDED COMMUNITY PARTNERS. AND THEN I LOOK BACK THIS YEAR, AND THEN YOU HAVE COMMUNITY PARTNERS THAT MISAPPROPRIATE THOSE FUNDS. SO, WHEN PEOPLE GET PUT IN THOS SITUATIONS AND THEN OUR DEPARTMENTS HAVE TO REACH OUT TO THOSE NONPROFITS AND SAY, HEY, WE GOT A SITUATION, ARE WE ALREADY ALLOCATING THIS MONEY TO THEM UP FRONT OR ARE WE WAITING UNTIL A SITUATION COMES ABOUT AND GIVING THEM THE MONEY THEN BECAUSE, AT THE END OF THE DAY, NO MATTER WHAT OUR DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE OR HOW WE AUDITING THESE, THESE, NONPROFITS THAT WE'RE GIVING THIS FUNDING TO. BECAUSE I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE A VESSEL FOR THE PEOPLE THAT PUTS US IN THESE ROLES. RIGHT WELL, WHEN WE CAN'T PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT ARE NEEDING AND THERE'S BEEN FUNDING ALLOCATED THROUGH A GOVERNMENT, AGENCY, AND THEN THAT GOVERNMENT AGENCY IS SOLELY DEPENDENT ON A NONPROFIT. AND THEN WHEN YOU REACH OUT TO THEM, THEY DON'T HAVE THOSE FUNDS.

THEN THEY LOOKING BACK AT US. RIGHT. SO, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER, THAT IS OKAY, BUT IT'S JUST STILL SOMETHING JUST IF YOU GUYS WOULD LOOK IN A DIFFERENT SET OF LENSES. ABSOLUTELY. I FULLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'VE STATED, AND I WANT TO ASSURE YOU THAT WE DO HAVE A SET OF STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES THAT REQUIRE US TO MONITOR, THAT REQUIRE US TO GO OUT, ESPECIALLY IF THERE IS REASON FOR CONCERN TO KIND OF INVESTIGATE AND MAKE SOME ASSESSMENT AROUND HOW DOLLARS ARE BEING SPENT, WHAT ORGANIZATIONS ARE DOING IN TERMS OF HOW THE MONEY IS ALLOCATED AND WHEN IT'S DISPENSED, IT IS USUALLY ON A QUARTERLY BASIS. SO IN SOME CASES THEY MAY GET THAT FIRST QUARTER IN ADVANCE OF ANYTHING HAPPENING. BUT AFTER THAT WE REQUIRE REPORTING ON THE PROGRAM, THE OUTCOMES, PARTICIPATION AS WELL AS RECEIPTS FOR ALL EXPENDITURES. AND IF WE SEE ANYTHING THAT DEVIATES FROM THE AGREEMENT, THAT'S ROOM FOR CONCERN. ADDITIONAL MONITORING AND INVESTIGATION. COUNCIL. EXCUSE ME, COUNCILWOMAN PARKER. YES. THANK YOU. IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN. JANE, PERHAPS JUST GIVE US A GENERAL STATEMENT OR TWO ABOUT YOUR MISSION STATEMENT. AND THE REASON I ASK THAT IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A PERCENTAGE OF YOUR BUDGET GOES TO, REDUCING GUN VIOLENCE AND THEN ANOTHER PERCENTAGE OF THE BUDGET GOES TO SERVING VICTIMS OF GUN VIOLENCE. SO DO YOU ROUGHLY KIND OF KNOW WHAT PERCENTAGE OF YOUR BUDGET GOES TO, PREVENTION VERSUS SERVING THE PUBLIC? THE PUBLIC

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IT ALLOWS COORDINATION, COLLABORATION AMONG OUR PARTNERS, AND IT'S A KEY PIECE OF HOW WE'RE MEASURING OUR SUCCESS AS A DEPARTMENT. SO, ALL THAT TO SAY THAT, YES, WE REALLY SUPPORT OUR PARTNERS UTILIZING HMS AND WE SUPPORT THAT WITH OUR FUNDS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT THAT SYSTEM ACROSS OUR SERVICE ARRAY AND WITH OUR PARTNERS. MY NAME IS CHRISTINA BIRCH. I AM SOCIAL SERVICE POLICY AND ADVOCACY MANAGER FOR THE PLANNING COMPLIANCE TEAM.

AND WE ADMINISTER FOR THOSE FUNDS. SO THAT PARTICULAR HMMIS PAYS FOR WILKING. THE, ADMINISTRATOR OF HMMIS. HE, HELPS ALL THE AREA, NONPROFITS GET INTO HMMIS AND ANY TROUBLESHOOTING, YES. COUNCILWOMAN PERISH. RIGHT THANK YOU. I REMEMBER THAT IT WAS MISQUOTED THAT EACH ENCAMPMENT CLEARING, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY NOT A RELOCATION. THEY'RE CLEARED OUT. THEY GO SOMEWHERE ELSE AND THEY'RE CLEARED AGAIN. I WANTED TO KNOW, DID WE GET A BETTER NUMBER ON HOW MUCH EACH ONE OF THOSE, HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT CLEARINGS ARE COSTING? AND WITH OUR HOMELESS COMMUNITY AND RATES CONTINUING TO GROW, WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR THAT MOVING FORWARD? BECAUSE IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE SPENDING MONEY THAT COULD BE USED TO DO MORE PERMANENT OR SUPPORTIVE WORK. SO WHAT WHAT ARE THE HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT CLEARINGS COSTING PER CLEARING AND, AND ARE AND I KNOW A LOT A GREAT DEAL OF THEM WAS IN MY COLLEAGUE COUNCILMAN ARTHUR'S DISTRICT. ARE YOU SEEING IT IN AN EXPANSION IN OTHER DISTRICTS? THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER NICOLE GEORGE, DEPUTY MAYOR OF PUBLIC HEALTH, PUBLIC SERVICES, TO START THE QUESTION AGAIN, WE REFERENCED RELOCATION BECAUSE AS WE UNDERSTAND IT, AS PART OF OUR PRACTICE, WE ENSURE CONNECTION FIRST AND FOREMOST, IN TERMS OF OUTREACH, PROVIDING THE RESOURCES AND CONNECTING, WITH THOSE RESOURCES THAT DO EXIST. AND SO, IN TERMS OF REFLECTION OF THE ACTUAL WORK THAT HAPPENS, WE SEE RELOCATIONS AS A MUCH MORE ACCURATE PICTURE OF THE WORK THAT'S HAPPENING ON THE GROUND, IN ADDITION, SO TO ANSWER THE QUESTION AROUND HOW WE CAPTURE, DOLLAR SPENT FOR THE COST OF RELOCATION, WE CURRENTLY DO NOT CAPTURE DOLLAR SPENT SPECIFIC TO RELOCATION. WE CAN GET YOU DOLLARS SPENT FROM A SOLID WASTE PERSPECTIVE, BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO CONSIDER THAT AS PART OF THAT, WE LOOK AT CLEANING OUR CITY STREETS AS A BASIC CITY SERVICE. SO WHETHER WE'RE ROUTINELY CLEANING AN AREA THAT HAS NOT BEEN RELOCATED OR WHETHER WE'RE CLEANING AN AREA AFTER, COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAVE MOVED, IT IS STILL THE SAME COST. SO AT THIS POINT, HOMELESS SERVICES DIVISION DOES NOT TRACK THE COSTS OF SOLID WASTE. BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY GET YOU NUMBERS IN TERMS OF WHAT PUBLIC WORKS SPENDS TO CLEAN OUR CITY STREETS . AND I THINK YOU ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT THE LOCATIONS, AND I WOULD DEFER TO JOHN PILBEAM TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHERE THOSE LOCATIONS, ARE OCCURRING IN TERMS OF DISTRICT. MA'AM, I APOLOGIZE. CAN YOU REPEAT THAT PART OF THE QUESTION FOR ME? I SAID THAT A GREAT DEAL OF THE HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT CLEARINGS, THERE ARE ATTEMPTS TO MAKE RELOCATIONS, BUT NEVERTHELESS I KNOW THAT A GREAF THEM HAPPENED IN THE FOURTH DISTRICT. AND I WAS ASKING, DO YOU SEE? I GET THE REPORTS I'VE SIGNED UP FOR RAVE. SO EVERY

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I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE INFORMATION ON WHAT ALL IT TAKES TO DO THAT, BECAUSE PREVIOUSLY I BELIEVE IT WAS. THE COURIER JOURNAL REPORTED THAT IT WAS LIKE $8,000. I WAS TOLD BY, DEPUTY MAYOR GEORGE THAT THAT IS AN ACCURATE ASSESSMENT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE OF THAT BECAUSE THESE ARE STILL COSTS THAT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND SO THAT MOVING FORWARD AS WE CONTINUE TO ALLOCATE, THAT WE NEED THAT THERE. AND THE LAST PART IS WHAT LINE ITEM IS THE HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT CLEARANCE UNDER UNDER THE BUDGET SHEET. WHAT HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU TRACK THAT THERE.

SO COUNCIL MEMBER THAT WAS SHARON, THERE'S NOT ONE LINE ITEM THAT INCLUDES ALL RESPONSE TO COMMUNITY NEED AND PARTICULARLY THOSE COMMUNITY MEMBERS LIVING ON THE STREETS.

SO FOR INSTANCE, SOLID WASTE CAPTURES THEIR BUDGET AS IT RELATES TO CLEANING THE STREETS, WHAT'S IN HOMELESS SERVICES DIVISION, REFLECTS OUTREACH AND ENCAMPMENT RESPONSE FROM A PERSONNEL STANDPOINT. RIGHT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN KRAMER. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. ONE OF THEM IS LIKE MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS, AND THE OTHER ONE IS 13,000. SO I'M GOING TO START WITH THE $13,000 QUESTION FIRST. AND HONESTLY, IT'S OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT A BIG NUMBER. IT'S JUST IT IT FLUCTUATE WILDLY. AND I'M CURIOUS WHY WE DON'T WHAT IT JUST FEELS LIKE WE NEED TO GET OUR HEAD AROUND IT. LOCAL TRAVEL IN 2022 2023 WAS 10,600. THE ORIGINAL BUDGET WAS 20, FOR 24 WAS 4500. THE REVISED BUDGET WAS ALSO 4500. BUT THIS YEAR, YEAR TO DATE, THEY'VE ALREADY SPENT 10,200. SO WE'RE A LOT CLOSER TO IN SPENDING THIS YEAR TO WHAT WE WERE BUDGETED IN 2022, BUT WE WERE BUDGETED IT WELL UNDER HALF OF THAT. SO AND THEN THE MAYOR'S RECOMMENDED FOR THIS NEXT YEAR IS 13,000. SO I'M GUESSING 13,000 IS PROBABLY CLOSER TO THE RIGHT NUMBER. I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW DO WE MISS THAT. SO BADLY? WHAT EVEN IS LOCAL TRAVEL. AND I KNOW WHAT LOCAL TRAVEL IS. BUT HOW DO YOU ALL DEFINE LOCAL TRAVEL? HOW ARE WE? WHY ARE WE? WHAT ARE WE PAYING FOR? SO I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO RESEARCH THAT AND AGAIN GET BACK TO YOU. SO AS YOU MAY KNOW, JOSH AND I HAVE BEEN ON BOARD ABOUT THREE MONTHS. OKAY, SO WE ARE RESEARCHING AND LEARNING. YEAH, I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF REASONS WHY THERE MAY BE MORE TRAVEL, NOW THAT THERE ARE TWO DIRECTORS, BUT WE WILL GET THAT INFORMATION BACK TO YOU. THANK YOU. I'M JUST AGAIN, I'M CURIOUS . WHAT THAT. WHAT ARE WE PAYING FOR? WE'RE PAYING FOR LOCAL TRAVEL, AND THEN THE BIGGER QUESTION IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, IS, YOUR EXTERNAL AGENCY CONTRACT HAS ALSO FLUCTUATED QUITE A BIT, IN 2022, 23, IT WAS 5 MILLION, ALMOST 5.5 MILLION, A LITTLE OVER FIVE AND A HALF, IT WAS BUDGETED LAST YEAR AT TWO AND A HALF. AND THEN THE REVISED WAS BACK UP TO FIVE AND A HALF, THE YEAR TO DATE IS ALREADY 4,000,035, AND THE MAYOR'S RECOMMENDING 4,000,006. SO AGAIN, IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO YOUR JUST IF YOU COULD JUST TALK ABOUT YOUR EXTERNAL AGENCY CONTRACT, I THINK THAT MIGHT

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YES. OKAY. THAT'S MY CONFUSION. THANK YOU. OKAY COUNCILMEMBER WEBER, PERFECT. YEP, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR BEING HERE FOR ALL YOUR WORK. SO TALKING ABOUT THE COMMUNITY MINISTRIES FUNDING, I WAS JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. I UNDERSTAND THERE'S ESSENTIALLY STEADY STATE FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WITHOUT AN INCREASE OR COST OF LIVING INCREASE, BUT CAN YOU ALSO SPEAK TO THE PROGRAMS OR FUNDING THAT WE'RE DOING WITH THEM AS CONTRACTORS? I MEAN, I THINK ABOUT THEIR ADMINISTRATION OF THE EVICTION PREVENTION AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT THEY'RE DOING. I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE FULL PICTURE JUST SO THAT WE CAN BE ADVOCATING FOR THEM AS THE AMAZING ORGANIZATIONS THAT THEY ARE DOING WORK THAT OTHERWISE WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE ON. WELL, ABSOLUTELY. AND AS, DIRECTOR WILLIAMS SAID, WE, WE ARE STILL FAIRLY NEW IN OUR POSITIONS, BUT WE HAVE ALREADY IN OUR TIME WITH RCS, MET WITH COMMUNITY MINISTRIES AND CLAIRE, AT SOUTH LOUISVILLE AND, SEE THE VALUE AND THE GOOD WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING. AND I KNOW THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO JUST DO MORE IN THE YEAR AHEAD, SO WE VALUE THE PARTNERSHIP, THE DIRECT, PARTNERSHIP WITH LOUISVILLE METRO WAS A PARTNERSHIP WITH COMMUNITY MINISTRIES AND OFFICE OF HOUSING. SO TO, AND AGAIN, THAT THAT PREDATES OUR TIME WITH RCS. SO I KNOW THAT THERE WAS DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, OVER A YEAR AGO TO, TO MOVE SOME OF THAT PROCESS IN FUNDING OVER TO OFFICE OF HOUSING AND PARTNER WITH COMMUNITY MINISTRIES. AND MY UNDERSTANDING FROM TALKING WITH MARILYN HARRIS AND OTHERS IS THAT THE GOAL WAS TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT WITH ALL OF THAT FUNDING, WE COULD GET IT TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE, AS QUICKLY AND EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE, SO THAT THAT IS ANOTHER SITUATION WHERE AS THAT FUNDING IS WINDING DOWN, YOU KNOW, THAT PARTNERSHIP WITH COMMUNITY MINISTRIES AND OFFICE OF HOUSING, I THINK WILL, WILL END AS THAT MONEY IS EXPENDED, I'M NOT AWARE OF AND OTHERS CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. I'M NOT AWARE OF, YOU KNOW, DIRECT OTHER THAN OUR PARTNERSHIP THROUGH EIF DIRECT FUNDING COMMUNITY MINISTRIES, BUT WE DO WORK WITH THEM QUITE A BIT. REFER TO THEM QUITE A BIT, CONSIDER THEM AS KIND OF A KEY PARTNER FOR US TO, BECAUSE WE CERTAINLY CAN'T MEET ALL THE NEEDS OURSELVES. GREAT.

WELL, I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DID NOT AT THIS MOMENT, ALSO BASED ON CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD WITH YOU AND SEVERAL OTHERS, LOOK TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE STRATEGICALLY PARTNER, PARTICULARLY FOR THESE SERVICES THAT THEY PROVIDE FOR WHICH THEY COULD BE BILLING MEDICAID, ON OUR BEHALF, OR IN PARTNERSHIP WITH US. SO AS WE LOOK TO HOW WE BUILD OUT THAT CAPACITY INTERNALLY, GIVEN OUR CLOSE PARTNERSHIPS WITH THEM TO BE AN ESSENTIALLY EXTENSION OF OUR SERVICES, THAT IS A POSSIBLE WAY THAT WE COULD HELP THEM TO BECOME ADDITIONALLY FINANCIALLY SUSTAINABLE OR EXPAND THEIR PROGRAMS. YES. THANK YOU. AND WOULD YOU LIKE FOR ME TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR MEDICAID PLAN? I KNOW THAT'S YOUR BACKGROUND. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY IT INTO EXISTENCE ENOUGH TIMES. THANK YOU. AND WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT BOTH OPPORTUNITIES TO PARTNER WITH AN EXTERNAL, SERVICE PROVIDER WHO BUILDS MEDICAID, AND ALSO TO DO SO INTERNALLY. AND OBVIOUSLY THAT THAT WORK IS UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW. SO RCS IS JUMPING ON BOARD MEDICAL MUSIC TO MY EARS, MEDICAID MUSIC TO MY EARS. THAT'S A THAT'S A DIFFERENT ONE, SIR. WE HAVEN'T HEARD YOU BRING THAT UP IN THE PAST. ANYONE ELSE ? I DON'T HAVE ANYONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE. ARE WE GOOD? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. WE WILL SWITCH TO EXTERNAL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I HAD A QUESTION. AND. COUNCILMAN BLACKWELL. YES, I DID HAVE A QUESTION. OKAY LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET ATTENTION AGAIN. WE ALREADY BE FOR JOHN SHELBY. ALL RIGHT, LET ME SEE IF. CAN WE DO ONE LAST QUESTION HERE, SIR? YES, MA'AM. YES,

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HELLO. CARLA KIRBY, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, OFFICE FOR YOUTH AND THE OFFICE FOR SAFE AND HEALTHY NEIGHBORHOODS YOUTH ENHANCEMENT SERVICES. LIKE RCS AND ARTS, WE DID STREAMLINE THE PROCESS FROM 12 INDIVIDUAL SECTIONS OF THE APPLICATION TO FIVE. AND, AND BASICALLY THAT WAS IT. WE STILL ARE FOCUSED ON YOUTH DEVELOPMENT AND IN PRIMARY AND SECONDARY PREVENTION. SO I'LL TAKE FURTHER QUESTIONS AFTER. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN ARTHUR. THANK YOU. THE PROGRAM DESCRIPTIONS FOR ARTS, CULTURE AND YOUTH DEVELOPMENT, EXTERNAL AGENCIES JUST SAY OPERATING SUPPORT. DOES THIS OFFER THE ORGANIZATIONS MORE FLEXIBILITY INSTEAD OF USING THEM FOR SPECIFIC PROGRAMS ? IT DOES, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE CHOSE OR, YOU KNOW, DECIDED TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION, WE HEARD A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS THROUGH PUBLIC SURVEYS THAT OUR APPLICATION PROCESSES WERE VERY LENGTHY AND ONEROUS AND REQUIRED A ELEVATED LEVEL OF DETAIL BEYOND WHAT WAS REQUIRED FOR, LARGER FUNDING LEVELS AT A NATIONAL LEVEL FROM FEDERAL AGENCIES. THINGS LIKE THAT, WE ALSO WERE, PAYING ATTENTION TO CONVERSATIONS AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL WITH NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE ARTS. AMERICANS FOR THE ARTS, AND OUR PEER CITIES ABOUT THE IMPACT FROM COVID 19 PANDEMIC TO THE ARTS AND CULTURE , LANDSCAPE. AND, FOLLOWING METRO'S OFFICE OF ARTS AND CREATIVE INDUSTRIES BEING DESIGNATED AS THE LOCAL ARTS AGENCY FOR THE CITY, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AND A FLEXIBILITY TO APPLY FOR INCREASED LEVELS OF FEDERAL FUNDING THAT WE CAN THEN SUBGRANT TO ARTS AND CULTURE ORGANIZATIONS. THOSE FEDERAL FUNDING FUNDS THAT WE WILL SUBGRANT WILL ALWAYS BE RESTRICTED TO PROGRAMMATIC FUNDS , WHILE WE HAVE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL AND STATE LEVEL, THE ABILITY TO OFFER OPERATIONAL SUPPORT. WHICH WILL ALLOW ARTS AND CULTURE ORGANIZATIONS MORE FLEXIBILITY TO STABILIZE AND EXPAND THEIR CAPACITY TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY BETTER. AND IS IT SAFE TO SAY THE SAME REASONING YOU JUST GAVE APPLIES FOR YOUTH DEVELOPMENT AS WELL? BURLEIGH KIRBY, AGAIN, CAN YOU REPEAT YOUR QUESTION, PLEASE? I APOLOGIZE. SO IN THE PAST, THE PROGRAM DESCRIPTIONS WOULD SAY

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THANK YOU. AND AS FAR AS YOUTH DEVELOPMENT, WE HAVE THE WAY THAT WE HAVE, SITUATED OUR FUNDING PRIORITIES IS THAT WITH THE NEW LOUISVILLE METRO GUN VIOLENCE DASHBOARD, WE'VE PRIORITIZED NINE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE THE 18 MOST VIOLENT BLOCKS WITHIN THE CITY. AND OUR REVIEW PANEL, CONSIDERED PRIORITY FOR THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT WERE SERVING YOUNG PEOPLE IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS, AS WELL AS THE NUMBERS THAT WERE BEING SERVED. SO THEY HAVE PRESENTED RECOMMENDED FUNDING FOR 11 OF THOSE AGENCIES IN THOSE 18 BLOCKS, AT A RATE OF 431,000, SERVING ABOUT 3000 YOUNG PEOPLE. THAT ACTUALLY LIVE IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. AND THEN THE OTHER PIECE IS, I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT NEED, WE RECEIVED THIS YEAR 83 APPLICATIONS REQUESTING $4.151 MILLION LAST YEAR. IN FISCAL YEAR 24, WE RECEIVED 47 APPLICATIONS REQUESTING 1.642 MILLION. I CAN'T DO THE MATH ON THAT, BUT THAT IS ALMOST DOUBLE THE REQUEST. ONE THING THAT THE OFFICE FOR SAFE AND HEALTHY NEIGHBORHOODS HAS BEEN DOING IS

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RUSSELL ALGONQUIN. AND I CAN ACTUALLY, I CAN ACTUALLY PROVIDE YOU THOSE 18 BLOCKS. AND THEN WE DIVIDED THEM INTO THE NINE SERVICES, WHAT WE CALL SERVICE ZONES, WHICH ARE NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO NORTH, SOUTH IN OR LIKE NEWBURGH OR NONE OF THOSE NEWBURGH. YES. NEWBURGH IS INCLUDED, I APOLOGIZE, I CAN'T FIND THE THING. THAT'S OKAY. YOU CAN SEND IT TO ME LATER. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE IDENTIFY. YEAH, I DO HAVE IT. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN ARTHUR. THANK YOU.

THIS IS PROBABLY A QUESTION FOR RCS. COULD YOU EXPLAIN THE PROCESS FOR FUNDING THE COMMUNITY MINISTRIES? I KNOW YOU TALKED ABOUT OVERALL EAF APPLICATION PROCESS SHIFTING, BUT WHAT ABOUT FOR COMMUNITY MINISTRIES SPECIFICALLY? SO MY UNDERSTANDING THERE'S BEEN A SET BUDGET THAT THEY HAVE RECEIVED OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS. AND IT GOES TO ONE AGENCY, ONE MINISTRY, AND THEY DISPERSE THAT ACROSS ALL OF THE MINISTRIES. CHRISTINA BUNCH HERE. JUST IN CASE I'M GOING TO PULL HER UP JUST IN CASE I MISSPOKE. MY NAME IS CHRISTINA BUNCH. I'M THE SOCIAL SERVICE POLICY AND ADVOCACY MANAGER FOR THE PLAY AND COMPLIANCE TEAM, IN RCS, SO WITH THE MINISTRIES, THEY DO GET A SET AMOUNT AND LIKE SHE SAID THAT, THEY DECIDE AMONGST THEMSELVES HOW IT'S GOING TO BE DISBURSED. SO DID THE MINISTRIES APPROACH YOU ALL ABOUT AN INCREASE IN THEIR APPROPRIATION? YES. THEY HAVE LET US KNOW. SO THEY HAVE, PRIOR TO THE BUDGET BEING PROPOSED. YES. OKAY. AND WHO DECIDED THAT AMOUNT WAS SET? THAT WAS DECIDED PRIOR TO MY STARTING. SO I WOULD HAVE TO RESEARCH THAT OKAY, IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HERE? THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CREATIVE INDUSTRIES IS WITHIN THE CABINET OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WELL, WE TALKED A BIT ABOUT THEIR EXTERNAL AGENCIES WHEN THEY CAME, BUT WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT SOIL AND WATER OR THE EXTENSION? OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. COUNCILMAN KRAMER.

I'M NOT EVEN 100% SURE HOW TO POSE THE QUESTION. SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO ACCOMPLISH WHEN WE FUND ARTS PROGRAMS THROUGH THE EAF PROCESS THIS YEAR, IT'S MORE THAT WE KNOW THEY'RE DOING GOOD WORK. WE APPRECIATE THAT THEY'RE IN THE COMMUNITY, AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT THEY NEED SOME FLEXIBILITY, AND THEY'RE STRUGGLING WITH OPERATING EXPENSE. SO WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM CASH AND SAY, DO WHAT YOU DO BEST. WHAT ARE WE PAYING FOR?

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THEY ARE REPORTING BACK ON THE USE OF THE FUNDS. WE ARE JUST SORT OF TAKING A STEP A LITTLE BIT BACK. WE WERE REQUIRING A CUMBERSOME LEVEL OF GRANULAR INFORMATION FROM THEM IN THE PREVIOUS PROCESS. SO WE WILL STILL BE ASKING, WHAT DISTRICTS DO YOU SERVE? WHAT WHAT NEIGHBORHOODS ARE YOU IN? RIGHT. I'M CURIOUS. ONLY THEN YOU KNOW, WHY ARE THE ARTS ANY DIFFERENT THAN ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE GIVE MONEY TO? I MEAN, AT ONE POINT USING THE SAME APPROACH SLASH LOGIC, WHY WOULD WE NOT JUST DECIDE THIS IS A GREAT AGENCY THAT'S DOING GOOD WORK IN LOUISVILLE? WE'LL JUST PAY THEM TO OPERATE WITHOUT EVEN LOOKING AT PROGRAMMATIC, FUNDING, YOU KNOW, PROGRAMS THAT THEY'RE DOING. I MEAN, JUST GIVE MONEY TO GOODWILL AND TO A GREAT ORGANIZATION. I'LL USE THEM BECAUSE WE JUST FUNDED A CAMPUS FOR THEM. WE ALSO HELPED THEM WITH, VANS TO REACH OUT TO FOLKS WHO ARE, WHO ARE, YOU KNOW, SOLICITING MONEY ON STREETS. SO THERE ARE SEVERAL PROGRAMS THAT GOODWILL DOES THAT WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE. WE DON'T JUST WRITE THEM A CHECK AND SAY, WE LOVE WHAT YOU DO, GO DO GOOD WORK. BUT USING THE LOGIC THAT'S HERE, IT WOULD MAKE PERFECT, GOOD SENSE TO ME THAT WE WOULD SAY TO GOODWILL, WE'LL WRITE YOU A CHECK. WE WOULD SAY THE FAMILY SCHOLAR HOUSE, WE'LL WRITE YOU A CHECK. WE WOULD SAY TO CATHOLIC CHARITIES, I MEAN, I GO THROUGH THE WHOLE LIST IF YOU WANT ME TO, I WHAT'S TO SAY THAT I MEAN, IF THIS APPROACH IS SO BRILLIANT FOR THE ARTS, WHY WOULD IT NOT BE AN EQUALLY BRILLIANT APPROACH TO EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE FUND? I CAN'T SPEAK TO OTHER AGENCIES AND OTHER DISCIPLINES. I CAN SPEAK TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENS IN THE ART AND CULTURE ECOSYSTEM , I CAN SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I DID SPEND A FAIR BIT OF TIME WITH, OTHER MEMBERS OF METRO STAFF AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS AS WELL AS PEER CITIES, YOU KNOW, DOING A FIELD STUDY OF WHAT OTHER LOCAL ARTS AGENCY, LOCAL GOVERNMENT, STATE GOVERNMENT ENTITIES DO TO SUPPORT THEIR ARTS AND CULTURE? ORGANIZATION WHAT ENDED UP HAPPENING WAS THAT THIS GRANT PROCESS ENDED UP VERY CLOSELY ALIGNING WITH OUR KENTUCKY ARTS COUNCIL GENERAL OPERATING SUPPORT GRANT PROGRAM, AND AGAIN, THE REPORTING STRUCTURE, THERE WILL BE ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY ON HOW THOSE DOLLARS ARE SPENT AND THE IMPACT, WHAT YOU FIND OFTEN WITH ARTS AND CULTURE IS THAT THE IMPACT CAN'T BE QUANTIFIED IN NUMBERS IN THE SAME WAY AS OTHER DISCIPLINES MIGHT BE ABLE TO, AND THAT THIS CREATES SOME SPACE FOR SOME MORE NARRATIVE IMPACT, SOME PERSONAL TESTIMONIAL IMPACT OF THE, THE FUNCTION OF THE ORGANIZATION AS A WHOLE IN THE COMMUNITY. MY LAST COMMENT THEN I JUST WOULD REMIND FOLKS OF WHAT ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES HAS ALREADY POINTED OUT THAT IF YOU KNOW, GIVEN THIS PARTICULAR APPROACH, IT'S GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT IN FOLLOWING YEARS TO SAY TO OTHER OR ART ORGANIZATIONS THAT DO GOOD WORK, WELL, WE CAN'T FUND UR OPERATION BECAUSE AND SO IT'LL BE LIKE AN EVER INCREASING AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO ALLOCATE, OR ELSE YOU'RE PICKING WINNERS AND LOSERS. AND I KNOW YOU CAN MAKE THE ARGUMENT WITH GRANTS. YOU'RE PICKING WINNERS AND LOSERS. BUT WITH THE GRANTS, WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE PICKING A PROGRAM THA YOU BELIEVE IS AN IMPORTANT PROGRAM. SO IF YOU USE YOUR EXAMPLE, BOTH, YOU KNOW, AN ORGANIZATION THAT HAD FOUR DIFFERENT GRANT REQUESTS AND THEY GOT THREE OF THEM, WELL, THAT MEANS THAT ONE OF THE GRANT REQUESTS THAT THEY WERE WRITING WASN'T SOMETHING THAT THE METRO COUNCIL OR THE METRO GOVERNMENT VALUED. AND IF THEY WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, DO THAT PROGRAM, THEY'D HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO DO IT WITH THEIR OWN RESOURCES, BECAUSE WE ONLY GAVE THEM ENOUGH TO DO THE PROGRAMS THAT WE THOUGHT WERE IMPORTANT. WE ALSO IN THE PAST, I THINK BECAUSE THERE IS A FINITE LEVEL OF FUNDING AND AN EXORBITANT NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS, WE WERE PART OF, THE REVIEW PANEL ELECTED TO ALLOCATE PARTIAL FUNDING. AN ORGANIZATION MIGHT REQUEST 25, $30,000 FOR A PROGRAM, BUT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO ACCOMMODATE EVEN 50% OF THE APPLICATIONS, THEY WOULD AWARD HALF OF WHAT WAS REQUESTED, WHICH WAS THEN

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IF THEY WANT TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU. I'M TROY BURTON, I'M FROM HIGHLANDS COMMUNITY MINISTRIES. I'M ON THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE OF THE ASSOCIATION OF COMMUNITY MINISTRIES. AND LYNETTE JUST STEPPED OUT. WHO'S OUR PRESIDENT? SO I WILL FILL IN UP UNTIL THIS YEAR, WE HAVE USED THE 2010 CENSUS DATA. BUT BEGINNING WITH THIS NEW YEAR, WE WILL USE THE 2020 CENSUS DATA AS WELL AS LOCAL POVERTY INDICATORS, INCLUDING LG AND SHUTOFFS, LOUISVILLE WATER COMPANY SHUTOFFS. WE WILL LOOK AT THE HOUSEHOLDS, WHETHER THEY'RE SENIORS, FAMILIES. AND SO FOR EXAMPLE, HIGHLANDS COMMUNITY MINISTRIES RECEIVES LESS FUNDING THAN WEST LOUISVILLE COMMUNITY MINISTRIES BECAUSE THEY HAVE A HIGHER NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN POVERTY AND A HIGHER POPULATION. SO THE DATA IS THERE. WE ARE FOLLOWING THE DATA. AND SO WE HAVEN'T HAD AN INCREASE IN TEN YEARS. AND LYNETTE WILL SPEAK TO THAT AT THE NEXT HEARING. BUT WE TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY THE POVERTY AND THE COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE SERVING AND ENSURING THAT ANY TAX DOLLARS AND METRO DOLLARS ARE DIVIDED ACCORDING TO A FORMULA THAT'S WEIGHTED TO ALLOCATE WHAT THE NEEDS OF EACH OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS ARE. AND SO WE DO THAT AS AN ASSOCIATION. AND WE WERE TASKED WITH THAT BY METRO COUNCIL MANY YEARS AGO. AND THAT IS OH, GO AHEAD. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, SO YOU'RE FOR THE NEXT YEAR. SO FOR FISCAL YEAR 26, FOR THE CURRENT FUNDING YEAR, WE WILL BE USING DATA FROM THE 2020. OKAY. WE UP UNTIL THIS JUNE, WE'VE BEEN USING THE 2010 DATA BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE 2020 DATA. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WHAT WERE THEIR SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES THEN BETWEEN THE 2010 AND THE 2020 THAT THAT CHANGES THE FORMULA OR THE FORMULA OF THE OUTCOMES OF THE FORMULA? YES. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT MORE LOCAL DATA BECAUSE THAT'S AVAILABLE. AND WE HAVE ALL GONE TO A CENTRAL DATA, SYSTEM. ALL OF THE COMMUNITY MINISTRIES HAVE. BUT AS YOU KNOW, POPULATION IN LOUISVILLE HAS SHIFTED. SO THERE IS MORE POVERTY THAT HAS SHIFTED TO SOUTH AND EAST LOUISVILLE, BECAUSE MANY THINGS HAVE BEEN DONE OVER THE YEARS TO BREAK UP BIG SECTIONS OF POVERTY, NOT THINGS THAT THE COMMUNITY MINISTRIES DOES PER SE, BUT THAT WE HAVE DONE AS A, AS A COMMUNITY, BREAKING UP SOME OF THE HOUSING PROJECTS AND PUTTING IN MIXED USE HOUSING IN THOSE AREAS, AS WELL AS DEVELOPING LIKE THE HOUSING VOUCHERS, WHERE PEOPLE CAN TAKE A SECTION EIGHT VOUCHER AND GO TO ANY PART OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WILL ACCEPT THAT. SO POVERTY HAS MOVED OUT AS PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MOVE INTO OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS. AND SO WE HAVE TO TAKE OUR TAX DOLLARS AND WE HAVE TO DIVIDE THEM ACCORDING TO A FORMULA THAT'S FAIR. AND SO THAT'S HOW WE DO IT. AND ALL THE COMMUNITY MINISTRIES ARE BOUGHT INTO THAT. YES. THERE ARE 13 COMMUNITY MINISTRIES. YES. GOTCHA. AND WE ALL PARTICIPATE THAT WAY. COUNCILWOMAN, I JUST MADE YOU HAVE A QUESTION. SURE. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE FROM FISCAL YEAR 24 TO FISCAL YEAR 25, THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE IN ANY FUNDING FROM THE CHART THAT I'M LOOKING AT, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF WEST LOUISVILLE COMMUNITY MINISTRIES RECEIVING, A LITTLE OVER $10,000

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RIGHT. IF YOU'RE CONSIDERING IT NOW THEN IS THAT WE'LL SEE THESE CHANGES IN FISCAL YEAR 26. WE PLAN TO IMPLEMENT IT, THE NEW THE MODIFIED FORMULA BASED ON THE NEW DATA FOR THIS COMING FISCAL YEAR, RCS DOES AN INDIVIDUAL CONTRACT WITH EACH COMMUNITY MINISTRY, AND WE WILL WORK WITH THEM TO DO THOSE CONTRACTS AND DEMONSTRATE THE FORMULA TO PROVIDE THE TO PROVIDE THE PROPER NUMBERS. SO DO YOU HAVE THOSE NUMBERS? WE DO. OKAY. SO YOU CAN JUST YOU CAN SHARE THOSE WITH US. AND THEN WE THEN THAT WILL ELIMINATE COUNCILWOMAN CONFUSION RELEASED ON THIS. WE CAN PROVIDE THE NUMBERS BASED ON ON THE PROJECTED NEW FORMULA, CORRECT IT BASED ON CURRENT FUNDING AND HOPEFULLY WITH ADDITIONAL FUNDING. GOTCHA. THANK YOU.

FOLLOW UP LATER. WE'LL WE'LL FOLLOW UP RIGHT, I GUESS I DO HAVE, ONE MORE OUR ORGANIZATIONS ABLE TO RECEIVE FUNDS FROM MULTIPLE, BUCKETS OF EAF, THERE'S THREE. SO ONE CAN GET, SAY, GET MONEY FROM ALL THREE. YES YES THEY CAN. THEORETICALLY, IF THEY. YES, THEORETICALLY THEY CAN, THERE IS SUPPOSED TO BE A CAP AT A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE AND WE ARE WORKING TO BETTER ALIGN ACROSS ALL THREE DEPARTMENTS ON ENSURING THAT THERE IS ACCOUNTABILITY TO LETTING NOT LETTING THE ORGANIZATION GO OVER THAT SET THRESHOLD. THANK YOU. AND THEN LAST QUESTION, WITH THE ARTS, PANEL. AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S BEEN BEATEN UP A LOT TONIGHT, BUT I THINK THAT WE DO GO THROUGH A VERY, THOROUGH PROCESS AND VETTING WHICH PROGRAMS, THAT WE WANT TO FUND, AND CONSIDER WHAT THEIR OUTCOMES ARE. AND I THINK THAT THERE'S ALSO, VALUE IN BEING ABLE TO BE ON THAT PANEL FOR TWO YEARS IN A ROW. NOW AND BEING ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, SEE WHO'S APPLYING AND WHAT THEY'RE APPLYING FOR. AND THEN HOPEFULLY IN THEIR NARRATIVES, FILLING IN, TELLING THE STORY OF THAT PROGRAM. BUT, I NOTICED THAT ON THE SHEET, IT'S ARTS. I THINK IT SAID, ARTS AND IT HAD PARKS IN IT AS WELL. AND SO WHEN DID PARKS GET ADDED? AND WHAT CONSTITUTES ARTS, AN ORGANIZATION WORKING WITHIN PARKS, DOES THAT HAVE TO BE LOUISVILLE METRO PARKS? CAN THAT BE A PRIVATELY OWNED PARK OR IS IT A GREEN SPACE INITIATIVE? SO I WAS JUST WONDERING, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A SINGLE, ENVIRONMENT RENTAL APPLICATION IN THE LAST TWO YEARS. NICOLE GEORGE, DEPUTY MAYOR OF PUBLIC HEALTH, PUBLIC SERVICES, I BELIEVE COUNCIL MEMBER THAT CAME FROM, WHAT WAS EITHER RAISED FROM LAST YEAR'S BUDGET HEARING OR A MEETING THAT WE HAD SUBSEQUENT, LOOKING AT WAYS TO BETTER IMPROVE AND ENHANCE ALIGNMENT ACROSS THE F PROCESS AND GOALS WITHIN METRO. ALSO THAT LANGUAGE HAS BEEN IN THE BUDGET BOOK FOR MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS. THAT'S HOW THESE EIF GRANTS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN REFERRED TO. SO I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S HELD OVER FROM SOMETHING ELSE. WE CAN WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT AND GET BACK TO

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