[2. O-085-24 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING LOUISVILLE/ JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT CODE OF ORDINANCES (“LMCO”) CHAPTERS 111 AND 113 REGARDING THE LICENSING OF SEMI-NUDE DANCERS. Action Required By: October 2024 Sponsors: Cindi Fowler (D-14) ]

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METRO GOVERNMENT CODE OF ORDINANCES, LMC OF CHAPTERS, 111 AND 113 REGARDING THE LICENSING OF SEMI NEW DANCERS. SECOND I DIDN'T HAVE BEEN PROBABLY MOVED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER DAN SS COUNCILWOMAN TAMMY HAWKINS. I BELIEVE B SEVERE FROM ABC TO SPEAK TO THIS. THANK YOU. BUT I'LL I'LL DO IT. UH, MY NAME IS BRAD SEVERI. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE CONTROL FOR METRO. AND WE'RE HERE TODAY TO SEEK AN AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER 111, WHICH IS THE ADULT ENTERTAINMENT ORDINANCE. AND 113 , WHICH IS THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE CONTROL. ORDINANCE ITSELF AND WHAT THIS DOES. IT'S AN ATTEMPT METRO GOVERNMENT TO LICENSE ADULT ENTERTAINMENT PROVIDERS, DANCERS AND SO IN LOUISVILLE, METRO ALL OF THE ADULT ENTERTAINMENT ESTABLISHMENTS ARE ALL BARS THAT PROVIDE THEM MY NEW DANCING. AND WHEN THERE WAS A SPLIT YEARS AGO BETWEEN ADULT ENTERTAINMENT CLUBS THAT CANNOT PROVIDE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES AND PLACES THAT STILL DANCE, BUT ESSENTIALLY WHAT THIS DOES WHEN THEY DID THAT SPLIT. THERE WAS NO LICENSING REQUIREMENT. SO ALL OF THE DANCERS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN EXISTENCE DO NOT HAVE TO PROVIDE ANY FORM OF IDENTIFICATION. AND THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO COMBAT HUMAN TRAFFICKING IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND BY DOING THIS, IT CLOSES A LOOPHOLE THAT EXISTS BECAUSE OF, UH AND I BELIEVE IT WAS AN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE OF CHANGING SOME LAWS TO PREVENT NUDITY. UM IN PLACES THAT SELL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES, AND SO WHEN I WAS APPROACHED BY COUNCILWOMAN FOWLER ABOUT WAYS TO COMBAT HUMAN TRAFFICKING IN THIS COMMUNITY, I. I GAVE THE SUGGESTION I SAID, I BELIEVE THE BEST THING WE COULD DO. IS GO BACK TO LICENSING AND ASKING FOR IDENTIFICATION, SO IT'S AN ON DEMAND. WE ASK A DANCER IN A BAR THAT PROVIDES THEM MY NEW DANCING. PROVIDE YOUR CARD FROM THE CITY SHOWING THAT THEY HAVE PROVIDED ALL OF THEIR THEIR CLEARANCES. YOU KNOW, THEY'VE THEIR CRIMINAL HISTORY IS GOOD. EVERYTHING IS CHECKS OUT. IF THEY DON'T HAVE IT, IT IS A CRIMINAL OFFENSE. UM IF THIS AMENDMENT PASSES AND THAT IS SO WE CAN HOLD THE LICENSEE ACCOUNTABLE FOR BAD BEHAVIOR ON A ON A BAR OR A LICENSED PREMISES. AND I'M GLAD TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. I THINK I RAMBLED ON THERE FOR A MINUTE. SO I DID PROVIDE SOME SLIDES. UM AND AS I AS I WAS OVER HERE TALKING AND THINKING ABOUT IT, I DIDN'T CREATE THIS PACKET AND YOU'LL SEE THERE'S SOME PICTURES IN HERE. THE HEAD OF THE KENTUCKY HUMAN TRAFFICKING TASK FORCE. PROVIDED A STATEMENT OF SUPPORT AND I'D ASK HIM TO COME TODAY BECAUSE HE'S HE'S BEEN DOING HUMAN TRAFFICKING WORK FOR A REALLY LONG TIME. AND THERE'S SOME NAMES AND I. I MIGHT QUOTE FROM SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT, HE SAID. BUT THERE ARE SOME NAMES THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT I WANT TO SHARE ON TV, BUT I DID WANNA PROVIDE THEM FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS. FOR YOU TO SEE. BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT I IT WOULD BE PRUDENT FOR ME TO PUBLISH THESE NAMES AND THINGS ON TV SINCE I DIDN'T PREPARE THIS AND LOOK INTO THE UM, THE FULL VERACITY OF EVERYTHING THAT WAS SAID, BUT OH, GOOD. NO, YOU'RE GOOD. AND SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I DO. I DO WANT YOU TO LOOK AT IT. IF YOU DON'T MIND IF YOU HAVE IT FOR THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT CAN CAN SEE THE, UH, THE ATTACHMENTS. BUT ONE OF THE MOST THE QUOTE THAT STANDS OUT TO ME THE MOST, AND THIS IS FROM DETECTIVE RICK LYNN. AND HE'S IN FRANKFURT NOW, BUT HE WAS PART OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S TASK FORCE, AND HE'S HE'S THE HEAD OF THE KENTUCKY HUMAN TRAFFICKING TASK FORCE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT, HE SAYS, FROM MY EXPERIENCE OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS, ALMOST EVERY TRAFFICKING CASE I'VE WORKED THERE IS ALWAYS A NEXUS BETWEEN TRAFFICKING AND THE ADULT CLUBS. AND. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, GLAD TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. I JUST WANTED YOU ALL TO SEE THE SUPPORT. LEXINGTON ALSO DOES, UH, A MEASURE WHERE THEY LICENSE THE DANCERS IN THE BARS THAT PROVIDE SEMI NEW OR NEW PERFORMANCES. I THINK LEXINGTON IS A LITTLE MORE LENIENT ON THE AMOUNT OF CLOTHING THAT COMES OFF WHILE THEY PERFORM. SO, UM THIS COUNT COUNCILWOMAN FOWLER ON THERE. IS SHE STILL ON? COUNCILMAN FOWLER. WOULD YOU LIKE TO, UH, SPEAK TO THIS BEFORE? UM I TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THIS? I. I THINK THE BRAND HAS COVERED IT ALL. UM IT'S JUST AN ATTEMPT TO, UM DO WHAT WE CAN TO STOP, UM, TRAFFICKING IN YOUNG YOUNG WOMEN AND, UM, LEADING THEM DOWN THIS

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PATH THAT USUALLY DOESN'T TURN OUT TOO WELL. SO I APPRECIATE, UM B TAKEN CARE OF, UH, THIS AND HELPING ME WORK ON THIS ORDINANCE. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? OK UM, COUNCILMAN REED, YOU HAVE THE FOUR UH, THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND THANK YOU, BRAD FOR COMING. JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. UM SO AND DID I HEAR YOU SAY CORRECTLY THAT, UH, THAT ESTABLISHMENTS THAT HAVE ALCOHOL OR SELL ALCOHOL. CAN HAVE THIS IN MY NEW DANCERS, OR WAS IT? WHAT DID I GET THAT INCORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT, SIR. CURRENTLY THEY HAVE ALL OF THE THERE'S A DISTINCTION. I'M GONNA TRY TO DO MY BEST TO MAKE THIS MAKE SENSE. ALL OF THE PLACES THAT PROVIDE SEMI NEW DANCING IN LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY, ARE BARS THAT OFFER THAT SERVICE. NONE OF THEM ARE ADULT ENTERTAINMENT ESTABLISHMENTS. EVEN THOUGH THAT'S THE NAME THERE'S TECHNICALLY NO NOT ONE CLUB LICENSED IN IN LOUISVILLE, JEFFERSON COUNTY. THAT IS AN ADULT ENTERTAINMENT ESTABLISHMENT. SO THEY'RE ALL BARS. AND WHEN THAT HAPPENED SO THEY COULD STILL SELL LIQUOR. THE LICENSING REQUIREMENT DIDN'T MOVE WITH THEM, WHICH I BELIEVE HURT US IN THE EFFORT. TO COMBAT HUMAN TRAFFICKING. BECAUSE IN THAT PACKET, THERE ARE SOME EXAMPLES. OF 15 YEAR OLD DANCERS THAT WERE FOUND BY THE BY THE STATE OR ATTORNEY GENERAL OR SOME OTHER A B ABC ENTITY. I THINK THE STATE ABC WAS MENTIONED IN THERE. SO IT IT'S NOT JUST EXAMPLES OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN. IT'S SOME EXAMPLES OF THINGS THAT DID HAPPEN, AND THAT'S WHY I'M CINDY AND I ARE WORKING TO CHANGE THIS. OK SO I DIDN'T I DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND THAT TO ME IF SOMEONE'S SO I DO DANCING. IT'S AN ADULT, UH, ESTABLISHMENT. REGARDLESS BUT, UH, YOU'VE YOU'VE EXPLAINED THAT. SO IF A BUSINESS OWNER IS, UH, CAUGHT WITH UNDERAGE OR DANCERS THAT CANNOT PROVIDE IDENTIFICATION. WE'RE GOING TO SITE AND FIND THEM. UH ARE WE GOING TO, UH, CHARGE THEM WITH SOME SORT OF CRIMINAL OFFENSE? CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT AND GIVE ME AN IDEA OF SOME SOME SOME OF THE AMOUNTS THAT WE'RE PLANNING ON? IF WE ARE FIGHTING THEM, UH, THAT YOU HAVE IN MIND. YES. OR WHAT I'D SAY, IS IF WE WERE TO FIND SOMEBODY THAT WAS OPERATING , KNOWINGLY OPERATING WITHOUT THE CORRECT LICENSING A, UM THE STANDARD IS A 50 DAY VIOLATION BY THE ABC, WHICH TURNED OUT TO BE $50 A DAY. UH $2500 FINE AGAINST THE ESTABLISHMENT. IF THERE WAS A KNOWN VIOLATION. SO FOR ME. ONE OF THE THINGS I'D ASK. THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO CONSIDER IS AMENDING THIS TO MAKE IT A MISDEMEANOR OFFENSE BECAUSE THAT FALLS UNDER DISORDERLY PREMISES FOR US. DISORDERLY PREMISES AS AN ABC CHARGE, AND THAT ALSO IS SOMETHING THAT THE STATE RECOGNIZES. TO BE TO WHERE WE CAN HOLD THEIR ABC LICENSE ACCOUNTABLE. SO IT'S NOT CURRENT , UM, METHODOLOGY IN HUMAN TRAFFICKING IS NOT TO C A VICTIM, IF THEY'RE BEING FORCED TO DANCE THERE. IT'S NOT POPULAR. IT'S NOT CONVENTIONAL ANYMORE TO CITE SOMEONE WHO, UM IN CHARGE THEM ARREST THEM IF THEY'RE A VICTIM. OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES, BUT I WOULD SAY IN CERTAIN SCENARIOS WHERE SOMEONE IS BEING INVESTIGATED.

THEY CAN'T PROVIDE ID. THEY WON'T PROVIDE INFORMATION. THE OPTION TO HAVE A MISDEMEANOR CHARGE THAT WE CAN ACT UPON. IS VERY RELEVANT BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE NEED TO GET THAT VICTIM OUT AND GET THEM INTERVIEWED AND GET THEM HELP. AND SO HAVING A AN ORDINANCE CHARGE THAT'S ONLY ABC THAT GOES TO AN ABC BOARD. DIDN'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER OF TEETH THAT WE NEEDED IT TO HAVE.

SO, I. I DID ASK THAT WE HAD CHANGED FROM CIVIL PENALTY VIOLATION TO BEING UNLICENSED TO BE A CRIMINAL VIOLATION. SO IT GIVES US THE OPTIONS. WE NEED TO HELP AND GET THE PERSON HELP.

GOOD. AND I YOU KNOW, I. I COMPLETELY ENDORSE THAT. AND UH AND THAT LED TO MY NEXT QUESTION. WOULD YOU JUST ANSWER WHAT WHAT? WHAT OF THE UH, YOUNG PEOPLE THAT DON'T PROVIDE THE DOCUMENTATION, ONE OF THEM, AND I THINK YOU JUST ANSWERED THAT THAT, UH MANY OF THEM ARE AR AGAINST THEIR OWN. WILL UH, SO I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF CITING THEM IN ANY WAY. OR INCARCERATING THEM EVEN IN IN ANY WAY, SO I THINK THIS IS EXCELLENT AND I. I REALLY SUPPORT THIS AND CONGRATULATE THE COUNCILMAN FOWLER FOR BRINGING IT UP. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION REAL QUICK. UM SO DO YOU THINK THE OFFENSE IS, UM HIGH ENOUGH AS FAR AS WHO CAME UP WITH THE LEVELS OF THAT THE $50. IT'S A STATE THAT, UM YES. NOW I CAN. I

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CAN MODIFY THE NUMBER OF DAYS OR WE CAN GO TO A SUSPENSION. OR WE CAN GO TO REVOKE THEIR LICENSE BECAUSE BECAUSE IF THERE'S A 15 YEAR OLD, THAT IS DANCING, UM WITHOUT A LICENSE, IT KIND TO RIGHT. YEAH. SO I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE YOU KNOW, I. I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THIS AND DEFINITELY GONNA SUPPORT IT. I'M GONNA PASS THE, UM I'M GONNA PASS IT TO MY VICE FOR DANCES. I THINK HE IS. I'D LIKE TO CHIME IN ON THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT. IF IN AN EXAMPLE WHERE THERE'S A 15 YEAR OLD AND WE CAN PROVE ALL OF THESE THINGS, AND THE FIRST STEP IS DO YOU HAVE YOUR ID CARD? NO, YOU DON'T. THEN WE WOULD INVESTIGATE FURTHER. HUMAN TRAFFICKING ITSELF IS A FELONY OFFENSE SO THINGS IN ADDITION TO THE FINES, IN ADDITION TO THE ALL THE THINGS THE REMEDIES THAT WE WOULD GET UNDER THIS ORDINANCE THERE'S ALSO SOME ARREST ABILITY. FOR THE PERPETRATORS OF IF YOU'RE KNOWINGLY HAVING A 15. LESS THAN . MINERS DANCING WOULD WOULD NOT BE OK. AND THEN, UM THAT THAT DOES HAPPEN FROM TIME TO TIME. AND SO OUR OUR JOB IS TO STOP THAT. AND I BELIEVE AND I BE ON DEMAND SITUATION WILL IT. IT'S NOT GONNA SOLVE EVERY PROBLEM, BUT I MEAN AS MOST OF YOU ALL ARE AWARE, YOU KNOW, SO LET'S SAY CERTAIN, UH, LARGE GATHERINGS IN, UH, IN MAY. AROUND LOUISVILLE SOMETIMES BRING HUMAN TRAFFICKING VICTIMS TO THIS TOWN. AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ALL NEED TO FOCUS ON IN THIS. THIS WILL BE A GOOD FIRST STEP, AND I'M I'M OBVIOUSLY NOT SAYING NAMES FOR A REASON. GOOD. UH, AND I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU. THANK YOU, MR. UM IT'S A FELONY. IF THEY'RE 15 AND UNDER DO WE SHUT THEM DOWN IMMEDIATELY. ARE WE ARE WE LOOKING AT THAT? OR IS IT A AUTOMATIC SHUTDOWN UNTIL WE FIGURE IT OUT LIKE YOU'RE TRYING TO DO WITH LIKE WE, UH, DID THE ORDINANCE AS FAR AS THE YOU KNOW, PROBLEM BARS? YES SIR. I. I WOULD SAY IT WOULD BE A VERY SEVERE IT'S NOT JUST A 50 DAY VIOLATION AT THAT POINT IN TIME. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO INTO THOSE DECISIONS. BUT IF I WERE INVOLVED IN MAKING A DECISION, AND WE WERE TO FIND LIKE SOME OF THE EXAMPLES I'VE I'VE GIVEN YOU IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY. IF WE WERE TO FIND THAT, WHILE ON THE ABC ADMINISTRATOR, WE WOULD BE HAVING A EMERGENCY SUSPENSION HEARING. THAT'S AN IMMEDIATE THAT'S YES, SIR. YEAH WE'RE NOT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO CONTINUE. WHAT'S THE PENALTY RIGHT NOW? SO RIGHT NOW IT'S A CIVIL VIOLATION, AND THERE'S NO ID REQUIREMENT. SO ESSENTIALLY, EVERYBODY THAT DANCES CURRENTLY TODAY. UH, IF YOU WERE TO WALK INTO ANY OF THOSE ESTABLISHMENT, THERE'S NO ID REQUIREMENT FOR ANYBODY. AND SO IF LET'S SAY IF WE WERE TO FIND THE SITUATION, WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO CALL THE ATTORNEY GENERAL. UM, THERE WAS AN INVESTIGATION WHERE WE CAN YOU REFER SOMEBODY TO CATHOLIC CHARITIES, OR THERE'S SOME OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT HELP BUT YOU'D HAVE TO PROVE THE HUMAN TRAFFICKING WAS TAKING PLACE AND THEN GO AFTER THE LICENSE. THIS THIS WOULD GIVE US THE FIRST STEP. WE NEED TO PROVE THAT THAT PART CAN YOU KNOW THEY CAN REFUSE ID. IF THEY'RE DANCING THERE, OUR FIRST STEP TO PROVE THAT THEY ARE OF LEGAL AGE TO SHOW US THAT ID THAT YOU HAVE ON YOU, UM YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO SEE IT IF YOU'RE YOU'RE A DANCER, AND THAT IS THERE'S NO ID. IF THERE'S NO ID IF YOU PASS THIS THAT IS THE FIRST STEP TO BEGIN AN INVESTIGATION ON HOW THAT INDIVIDUAL IS WHY THEY'RE DANCING. UM, WHERE'S THEIR EMPLOYMENT FILE? ANYTHING LIKE THAT. AND THERE'S MY I MEAN, THESE INVESTIGATIONS ADD MORE TIME IN THIS KID WHO MIGHT BE 15 YEARS OLD. STILL DANCING? NO, IT SO THAT'S WHY WE NEED THIS. SO I CAN SAY. NO MY ENFORCEMENT TEAM CAN SAY. LET ME SEE YOUR CITY ISSUED. ANSWER ID IF YOU WILL, AND IF THEY AND IF WE PASS THIS AND YOU ASKED FOR THAT ID AND THEY DON'T HAVE IT. WHO'S RESPONSIBLE. WHO'S MY TEAM IS THE CHILD IS THE PERSON REMOVED IMMEDIATELY AND THEN AND AS THE O THE BAR OWNER, ARE THEY GONNA BE PUT ON SO YES, AND I WOULD SAY EVERY CASE, I MEAN, THAT'S PRETTY SEVERE IF WE GET INTO THESE ONES WITH 1517 YEAR OLD DANCERS. YES, SIR. I WOULD SAY THAT. UM IT'S PROBABLY THE HARSHEST PENALTY THAT WE CAN PROVIDE. UH, WOULD TAKE PLACE. BUT I. I DON'T WANNA SIT HERE AND TELL YOU BUT EVERY SITUATION IS GONNA RESULT IN A EMER WE WILL EVALUATE JUST LIKE WE DID ON THE EMERGENCY SUSPENSION ORDERS EVERY BUT THE HARSHEST PENALTY THAT I CAN PROVIDE, AS THE ABC ADMINISTRATOR WOULD COME DOWN TO SOMEBODY'S KNOWINGLY TRAFFICKING. HUMAN TO PROVIDE THESE SERVICES. THANK YOU. YES. COMMITTEE MEMBER PERISH, RIGHT WE HAVE THE FLOOR. THANK YOU, CHAIR. UM THANK YOU, BRETT AND THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN FOWLER FOR WORKING ON THIS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. I JUST HAD QUESTIONS SIMILAR TO COUNCILMAN REED AND COUNCILMAN S ABOUT THE

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I'M THINKING ABOUT THE SECOND CHANCE EMPLOYMENT. AND WHAT WOULD THIS QUALIFY SOMEONE FROM BEING A LICENSED DANCER? AND IS THIS A SPECIAL LICENSE? OR IS IT THAT THEY SO LIKE WHEN I DID SECURITY BEFORE WE GOT OUR PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR LICENSE, BUT IT WAS CONDITIONAL ON WHERE THE SECURITY FIRM WE WORK FOR. SO WITH THE DANCERS GET THAT CONDITIONALLY THROUGH THE EMPLOYER OR YOU'RE EXPECTING THEM TO HAVE THAT INDIVIDUALLY, AND IS THERE A FEES ASSOCIATED WITH IT? JUST TRYING TO SEE WHAT KIND OF LICENSE IT IS, IT IS, IT WOULD BE REQUIRED. IT IS INDIVIDUAL. IT'S NOT TIED LIKE AN ARMED SECURITY LICENSE IS TO A COMPANY. TO MY UNDERSTANDING AND THEN THE FEES WHEN THEY ASKED ME ABOUT IT, I SAID I WANTED TO KEEP IT THE MINIMAL AMOUNT TO COVER THE COST OF THE CARD AND THE ID. PRINTING. IN THE PAPERWORK, SO I THINK IT'S I REMEMBER THAT AS $25. IT'S 25. I CONFIRM YOU WOULD HAVE GOT ME ATTORNEY IT WAS AND WHAT CHARGES WOULD DIS Q LIKE IF THEY IF SOME OF THESE PLACES BEING THEMSELVES A SECOND CHANCE EMPLOYERS WHAT CHARGE CHARGES WILL MAKE THEM INELIGIBLE TO HAVE THIS LICENSE? I'M GOING TO DEFER THAT TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THAT IS, AND I DON'T WANT TO JUST MAKE SOMETHING UP FOR YOU. SO HOLD ON ONE SECOND. IS THERE ANYTHING FOR PREVENTS? SO I'M GONNA TELL YOU SOMETHING THAT AS ROBBIE IS READING THIS NOW. I DON'T KNOW OF ANYTHING THAT DUE TO SECOND CHANCE EMPLOYMENT. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO PREVENT PEOPLE. FROM WORKING. WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT HUMAN TRAFFICKING VICTIMS. BUT IF YOU'RE A FELON YOU CAN'T BE IN A BAR ANYWAY. SO IF THERE'S IF THERE'S SOMETHING TO THAT PREVENTS THEM FROM BEING AN EMPLOYEE OF THE BAR THAT SELLS LIQUOR. THEN THEN THAT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, CAUSE THE BAR OWNER SOME ISSUES. BUT WE'RE NOT PREVENTING ANYBODY FROM GETTING LICENSED AS LONG AS THEY PROVE THEIR AGE, BUT I'M GONNA VERIFY THAT WITH YOU, AND SO IF YOU'RE A FELON, PERIOD, YOU CAN'T BE IN A BAR, OR IS IT IF YOU'RE ON PROBATION OR PAROLE? THAT ONE. WELL, THAT DEPENDS ON THE CONDITIONS OF YOUR PROBATION AND PAROLE THERE. THERE ARE SOME PREVENTIONS UNDER THE STATE STATUTES. IF YOU'RE A FELON, AND THEY'RE RELATED TO ALCOHOL, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT COULD PREVENT SOMEBODY. BUT THAT WOULDN'T BE AN AUTOMATIC SHUTDOWN OF YOUR LICENSE OR FINE, SO IT JUST KIND OF DEPENDS ON EVERY SINGLE CASE OF A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. SO I'M I'M GONNA LET ROBBIE ROBBIE HOWARD JERSEY COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. THIS IS AN ANSWER THAT I COULD GET FOR YOU. BUT I WASN'T NECESSARILY EXPECTING THAT QUESTION. SO I DIDN'T GO BACK AND LOOK AND SEE WHAT CRIMES WOULD KEEP YOU FROM GETTING THE LICENSE. IT WOULD BE THE SAME.

PROHIBITIONS THAT EXIST UNDER THE CURRENT LICENSING SYSTEM. SO NONE OF THAT HAS CHANGED ON THAT. SO IF YOU CAN'T GET A LICENSE FOR NUDE DANCING, UH, YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET A LICENSE FOR THIS SEMI NEW DANCING, SO IT WOULD BE THE SAME AND THAT WOULD BE DEFINED. UH IN CHAPTER 111. I JUST DIDN'T BRING THAT SECTION WITH ME. I WASN'T EXPECTING TO ADDRESS THAT PART OF IT. SO THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE BEING FAIR AND EQUITABLE TO HIM AND THOSE WHO CHOOSE THAT PLACE AS EMPLOYMENT. BUT I THINK THAT THIS IS ON POINT FOR THOSE WHO MAY BE SUBJECT TO TRAFFICKING, SO I APPRECIATE THOSE JUST GETTING THAT RESPONSE. BUT I APPRECIATE THE WORK ON IT. THIS IS THE CASE. THANK YOU. OK, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY A COUNCILWOMAN BARBARA SHANKLAND LOOKS LIKE THAT. WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY. UM COUNCILWOMAN, UH, JENNIFER, UH, CHAPPELL. AND COUNCILMAN VINCENT STEWART. UM STUART BENSON. I'M SORRY. UM DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE. OK I DON'T SEE ANY MORE SPEAKERS AND THE QUEUE. UM HER AND NONE. THIS IS THE ORDINANCE COLUMN FOR ROCA VOTE CLERK. PLEASE OPEN UP THE VOTING. THANK YOU, EVERYBODY. FOR BEN'S YES. COMMITTEE MEMBER PARIS, RIGHT. YES I'M SORRY. I WAS TRYING TO GO THROUGH THE OTHER CRIME. UH UH. CHAIR USA? YES VOTE. THIS ITEM PATH. AND WILL BE MOVED TO OLD BUSINESS CLERK. CAN YOU PLEASE READ ITEM THREE INTO THE RECORD, PLEASE? NO, IT CAN GO STRAIGHT TO THE CALENDAR. YES. YEAH, AND WE'RE GONNA HOLD THAT. YEAH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE ONE. I CAN GO AHEAD AND SPEAK TO CLERK. CAN YOU READ

[1. R-025-24 A RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF KENTUCKY GENERAL ASSEMBLY SENATE BILL 13 TO ALLOW THE COMMONWEALTH TO ACT EXPEDITIOUSLY IN THE INTEREST OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND WELFARE. 4/17/2024 Public Safety Committee Held 3/20/2024 Public Safety Committee Tabled Action Required By: September 2024 Sponsors: Jecorey Arthur (I-4) ]

ITEM ONE, PLEASE. A RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF KENTUCKY GENERAL ASSEMBLY SENATE BUILT THEIR TEAM

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TO ALLOW THE COMMONWEALTH TO EXPEDITION IN THE INTEREST OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND WELFARE READ IN FULL YEAH, WE'RE GONNA HELP YOU. SO I'M JUST GONNA, UM, SPEAK TO THE RECORD. I ONE WILL BE HELD AT THE REQUEST OF THE SPONSOR. I JUST WENT BACK AND DID IT JUST SO WE CAN KEEP EVERYTHING CLEAN. OK? ALL RIGHT. UM, YOU'VE ALREADY READ, UM, ITEM THREE AND OK, YOU HAVEN'T

[3. ID 24-0212 OFFICE FOR SAFE AND HEALTHY NEIGHBORHOODS (OSHN) UPDATES – Paul Callanan, Office for Safe and Healthy Neighborhoods ]

WELL, CAN YOU? PLEASE READ THROUGH INTO THE RECORD, PLEASE? OFFICE. OFFICERS SAFE AND HEALTHY NEIGHBORHOODS. OS HN UPDATES PAUL KINAN OFFICE OF SAFE AND HEALTHY NEIGHBORHOODS, RIGHT MOTION. SECOND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR TITLE. FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING. UH, COMMITTEE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR AND, UM, NATURAL COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS PAUL CALLANAN. I'M THE DIRECTOR FOR THE OFFICE FOR SAFE AND HEALTHY NEIGHBORHOODS. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO PRESENT TODAY. UH, WE'VE HAD, UH, THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS.

I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH MULTIPLE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND ADDRESS, UH QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS THAT HAVE COME UP. AND ONE THING THAT THAT HAS BECOME VERY APPARENT IS SOMETIMES THERE'S MISINFORMATION OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT'S FLOATING AROUND ABOUT EXACTLY WHAT WE DO.

AND WHO WE ARE AND SOME OF OUR PROCESSES, SO, UH, AFTER CONSULTATION WITH SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH WE MADE THE REQUEST TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT TO TODAY'S COMMITTEE TO OPEN UP THE FLOOR. WELL, FIRST TO GIVE US AN GIVE YOU AN O. GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE DO. UM AND THEN HAVE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. OR WE CAN REALLY SET THE TRUTH TO SOME OF, UH, OF THE COMMENTS THAT ARE BEING MADE SOMETIMES ABOUT WHAT WE DO AND WHAT WE'RE NOT DOING. SO WHAT IS? UH UH, WE DID PUT TOGETHER A QUICK POWERPOINT PRESENTATION. UH KIND OF GO THROUGH IT REAL QUICK OF, UH, GIVING YOU AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT WHAT WE DO AS AN ORGANIZATION. UM BASICALLY THE ONE THING THAT WE DON'T DO, AND IT'S PROBABLY EASIER TO TALK ABOUT. WHAT WE DON'T DO SOMETIMES IS THAT WE'RE NOT A DIRECT SERVICE PROVIDER ORGANIZATION. RIGHT. WE PROVIDE ONE PROGRAM IN OUR AGENCY THAT IS DIRECT SERVICE PROVISION AND WE'LL GET INTO THAT. THAT'S OUR OUTREACH, BUT OVERALL WE DO NOT PROVIDE DIRECT SERVICE PROVISION . UM WE'RE OFTEN CALLED UPON BY MULTIPLE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY TO RESPOND TO THINGS PROVIDE PEOPLE SERVICES AND WE JUST DON'T PROVIDE SERVICES DIRECTLY.

WE FUND AN AWFUL LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT PROVIDE SERVICES, BUT WE OURSELVES ARE NOT A DIRECT SERVICE PROVISION. OUR FOCUS IS PRIMARILY ON LOOKING AT OVERALL SYSTEM, EFFECTIVENESS AND EFFICIENCY WHEN IT COMES TO GUN VIOLENCE. REDUCTION THAT IS, HOW DO WE DO A BETTER JOB AS A WHOLE GOVERNMENT APPROACH OR HOW DO WE DO A BETTER JOB AS A WHOLE CITY APPROACH? UH IN ADDRESSING GUN VIOLENCE, AND WE LOOK AT THAT IN DIFFERENT AREAS. WE ADDRESS GUN VIOLENCE IN OUR CITY AT THREE DIFFERENT LEVELS. AT THE MICRO LEVEL WE ADDRESS HOW DO WE WORK WITH INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN GUN VIOLENCE RIGHT NOW? HOW DO WE GET THEM? SERVICES HOW DO WE ENGAGE THOSE INDIVIDUALS? WE ALSO LOOK AT PLACES WHERE DO THOSE BLOCKS IN OUR CITY THAT EXPERIENCE IN THE MOST VIOLENCE ON AN EVERY GIVEN DAY? RING THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS AND WE'VE TRACKED DOWN TO THE BLOCKS ABOUT 20 BLOCKS IN OUR CITY THAT EXPERIENCE THE MOST GUN VIOLENCE , SO I HAD A MICRO LEVEL. HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT AT THAT? HOW DO WE GO TO THAT THAT BLOCK AND ADDRESS THE RESIDENTS THERE? HOW DO WE ADDRESS THE DRIVERS OF VIOLENCE AT THE MESO? THE MEDIAN LEVEL? HOW DO WE LOOK AT NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE IMPACTED BY GUN VIOLENCE IN PARTICULAR? HOW DO WE BUILD RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE WORKING IN THOSE NATIONS IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS TO PRO TO ADDRESS GUN VIOLENCE? WHETHER IT'S TRAUMA RELATED, WHETHER IT'S SERVICES, WHETHER IT'S ENGAGING THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND WE BUILT COALITIONS AND PARTNERSHIPS WITHIN NEIGHBORHOODS TO BECOME MORE EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT. AND FINALLY AT THE MACRO LEVEL IS HOW ARE WE DOING AS A CITY? HOW ARE WE DOING AT THE POLICY LEVEL ? THE FUNDING LEVEL? HOW ARE WE WORKING TOGETHER? NOT JUST FROM THE COMMUNITY SIDE FROM THE GOVERNMENT SIDE AND BRINGING EVERYBODY TOGETHER TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE MAXIMIZING OUR EFFORT RIGHT NOW TO ADDRESS GUN VIOLENCE ACROSS THE CITY. WE DO THAT IN SEVERAL WAYS WE BUILD CAPACITY. WE WORK AT INDIVIDUALS AND ORGANIZATIONS. A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH FUNDING. WE BUILD RELATIONSHIPS, PARTNERSHIPS COLLABORATIONS. WE LOOK AT WAYS OF PROVING SERVICE DELIVERIES OF SAYING, HEY, YOU GUYS ARE DUPLICATING SERVICES. MAYBE YOU WORK TOGETHER. UH A LITTLE BIT BETTER. UH, WE SERVE AS A THINK TANK. WHERE ARE IDEAS THAT WE BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER ALL THE TIME AND SAY WHAT? WHAT ARE WE NOT DOING? WHAT CAN WE DO BETTER, UH, WE FUND AND ENCOURAGE INNOVATIVE PROJECTS SOMETHING OUTSIDE THE BOX THAT MIGHT BE WORKING, AND THEN WE SUPPORT A MULTILEVEL CITYWIDE FRAMEWORK TO ADDRESS GUN VIOLENCE, SO WE LOOK AT THAT. WHY JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT QUICKLY ABOUT CAPACITY BUILDING AND FUNDING TO GIVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE OUR FUNDING COMES FROM. OUR FUNDING COMES FROM THREE PRIMARY SOURCES OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS. THE FIRST IS OBVIOUSLY GENERAL FUNDS . THE SECOND IS AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN FUNDS THAT WERE GRACIOUSLY AWARDED TO OUR OFFICE FROM THE COUNCIL. UH, THAT'S ABOUT $25 MILLION TO BE SPENT OVER A FOUR YEAR PERIOD. SO THAT MONEY IS

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SPENT OVER AND BUDGETED FOR OVER THE NEXT FOUR YEARS. I THINK WE'RE ENDED TWO YEARS RIGHT NOW, AND THE THIRD IS WE ALSO GO OUT AND WE SEEK ADDITIONAL, UH, FEDERAL DOLLARS. SO JUST JUST LAST YEAR, MY OFFICE BROUGHT IN $7 MILLION IN COMMUNITY VIOLENCE PREVENTION PROGRAM FUNDS THAT ARE MOST OF THAT GOING DIRECTLY TO COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS . THE WHY I WANNA STRESS THAT IS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW WE FUND ORGANIZATIONS WITH GENERAL FUNDS. THEY ARE TYPICALLY NO RESTRICTIONS. WE'RE ABLE TO ADVANCE. ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COMMUNITY DOLLAR SO IF YOU ENTER INTO A GRANT AGREEMENT WITH US, WE CAN GIVE YOU A SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY UP FRONT OR A QUARTERLY DISBURSEMENT. THEN WE MONITOR THE PROGRESSION IN THE F. WE RECEIVE FISCAL REPORTS. IF THOSE FISCAL REPORTS COME IN, AND THEY CHECK OUT AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THE RECEIPTS, AND WE CAN VERIFY HOW THE FUNDING IS BEING SPENDING AND THE PROGRAM IS BEING OPERATED, WE RELEASE MORE FUND FUNDING TO THEM, SO IT'S OVER THE COURSE OF THE CONTRACT PERIOD THAT WE DISPERSE FUNDS. THAT DIFFERS FROM THE FEDERAL DOLLARS WHETHER IT'S GRAND DOLLARS OR AMERICAN RESCUE DOLLARS, WHICH ARE STRICTLY REIMBURSABLE. WE HAVE NO LEEWAY TO GIVE FUNDING IN ADVANCE TO ORGANIZATIONS USING FEDERAL DOLLARS AND WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE WHEN WE USE FEDERAL DOLLARS THAT RESTRICTS A LOT OF GRASSROOTS ORGANIZATIONS WHEN WE'RE ENTERING INTO GRANT AGREEMENTS WITH COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS TO CONDUCT A PROGRAM USING FEDERAL DOLLARS, AND THEY HAVE TO COVER THE COST OF THOSE PROGRAMS, TYPICALLY FOR THE 1ST 1 TO 3. MONTHS AND THEN THEY REIMBURSE THOSE THEY GET REIMBURSED FROM THOSE DOLLARS.

THAT'S A HUGE EXPENSE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT A CONTRACT THAT MIGHT BE A MILLION DOLLARS OR $500,000 EUROPE, ASKING GRASSROOTS ORGANIZATIONS TO COVER SOMETIMES 1015 20 $4100 UPFRONT, WHICH THEY SIMPLY DON'T HAVE. AND I BRING THAT UP BECAUSE WE GET ASKED A QUESTION A LOT OF WHY AREN'T WE FUNDING ORGANIZATIONS? OR WHY DIDN'T THIS ORGANIZATION THE NUMBER ONE REASON WHY ORGANIZATIONS DON'T GET FUNDED UNDER FEDERAL DOLLARS? IT'S BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY RIGHT NOW TO FRONT THOSE FRONT COSTS, AND THAT'S THE ONLY DOWNSIDE TO AMERICAN RESCUE DOLLARS RIGHT NOW IS THAT WE HAVE TO BE REALLY INNOVATIVE WITH HOW WE USE THOSE DOLLARS. THE SECOND CLARIFICATION I WANTED TO MAKE WAS WE DO TWO LEVELS OF AGREEMENTS WITH COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS CONTRACTS, WHICH IS COVERED DIRECTLY THROUGH PROCUREMENT. THERE ARE SPECIFIC FISCAL RULES. GRANT AGREEMENTS GRANT. OUR AGREEMENTS ARE DIFFERENT THAN CONTRACTS. WE AS AN AGENCY AFFORDED A LITTLE BIT MORE LEEWAY. WE DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY FOLLOW THE STRICT PROCUREMENT RULES UNDER GRANT AGREEMENTS, WHETHER THAT'S FEDERAL DOLLARS OR LOCAL DOLLARS , WHICH MEANS THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, WE CAN CHOOSE IF IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY TO GO WITH A SPECIFIC VENDOR WITHOUT R FEET OR SAYING THAT THAT ACCOUNTS SO THERE ARE A LARGE AMOUNT OF FUNDING SOURCES THAT WE PUT OUT. WE HAVE EAF DOLLARS AT THE COUNCIL APPROVES THAT'S ALL R FA S. WE PUT OUT ANNOUNCEMENT TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE THESE DOLLARS. EVERYBODY APPLIED FOR THAT. FOR A GOOD PORTION OF OUR AMERICAN FUNDING DOLLARS. WE OPTED TO DO THAT IN ANY LARGE CONTRACT. WE GIVE OUT. THAT'S 506 $100 MILLION. WE PUT IN OUR BAIL FOR THAT, AND WE ASKED PEOPLE TO APPLY FOR THOSE DOLLARS. THERE ARE ON OCCASIONS WHERE WE AS AN AGENCY AND CONSULTATION WITH OTHER CITY AGENCIES OR PARTNERSHIPS IN THE COMMUNITY MAKE A DETERMINATION THAT A SPECIFIC ORGANIZATION IS BEST SUITED TO RECEIVE FUNDS. SO THERE ARE MULTIPLE AVENUES TO DO THAT. TO GIVE YOU AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW WE OPERATE. BASICALLY THERE'S FIVE DIVISIONS IN OUR AGENCY F FOR THESE DIVISIONS ARE REALLY LOOKING AT. HOW DO WE PROVIDE DIRECT SERVICES OR HAVE THE COMMUNITY PROVIDES DIRECT SERVICES? HOW DO WE SUPPORT? UH, THESE SERVICES IN THIS AREA AND THIS AREA OR FIFTH DIVISION? I'M REALLY NOT GONNA GET TOO MUCH IN TODAY AS OUR ADMINISTRATIVE. UH UH, DIVISION TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE WE GAVE OUT ON ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE IN TWO YEARS WE DISTRIBUTED ABOUT $25 MILLION TO OVER 200 ORGANIZATIONS THAT TAKES AN AWFUL LOT OF STAFF TO MANAGE AND GET CONTRACTS IN PLACE AND MAKE SURE SO I WANNA STRESS THAT WHENEVER WE GIVE OUT A CONTRACT OR A GRANT AGREEMENT TO SOMEBODY , THERE IS A DUAL PROCESS IN PLACE THAT CHECKS ALL THOSE FUNDS. WE DO FISCAL REPORTS PROGRAM MONITORING ON A REGULAR BASIS. IF IT'S FEDERAL DOLLARS, WE WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS AT THE A LP AND O MA RP, UH, TEAM IN IN OMB. BUT WE REALLY FUND OUR OUR PROGRAMS IN FOUR DIFFERENT AREAS. THE FIRST IS OUR PIVOT TO PEACE INITIATIVE, WHICH IS OUR COMMUNITY VIOLENCE INNOVATION INITIATIVE. THIS IS WHERE WE FOCUS ON. HOW DO WE ADDRESS THOSE DRIVERS OF VIOLENCE? THOSE SMALL 10% INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE DRIVING 80 TO 90% OF THE VIOLENCE IN THE COMMUNITY, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WE FUND MULTIPLE PROGRAMS IN THIS AREA. THE ONLY PROGRAM THAT WE FUND IN HOUSE ON THIS PRIMARILY IS THE OCEAN CASE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. WHEN I SAID WE FUND ONE DIRECT SERVICE PROVISION, THIS IS THAT PROGRAM.

WE HAVE OUTREACH WORKERS IN HOUSE THAT FOCUS AND ARE STRICTLY ON LONG TERM CASE MANAGEMENT TO HIGH RISK. INDIVIDUALS LONG CASE MANAGEMENT MEANS 1 TO 2 YEARS. UH, WE WORK WITH THESE INDIVIDUALS TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF OUR NUMBERS OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS WE'VE WORKED WITH ABOUT 265 INDIVIDUALS. WE HAVE A 17% RECIDIVISM RATE, WHICH ARE PRETTY GOOD NUMBERS FOR PEOPLE IN THAT AGE. THAT THAT TYPE OF A GROUP. WE HAVE OUR CURE.

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VIOLENCE SITES, INTERRUPTION SITES. THIS IS VIOLENT MITIGATION. WE CONTRACT WITH SIX ORGANIZATIONS AROUND THE CITY. WE CONTRACT THE U OF L HOSPITAL FOR VIOLENCE INTERVENTION PROGRAM. WE'RE CURRENTLY ESTABLISHING A WORKING, SETTING UP A CONTRACT WITH A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION. THAT WILL DO, UH, OUTREACH WORKER TRAINING ACADEMY . SO LOUISVILLE HAVE ITS OWN TRAINING ACADEMY THAT TRAINS EXISTING OUTREACH WORKERS AND ALSO BILLS ONGOING, SUSTAINABLE WORKFORCE FOR ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO DO THIS TYPE OF WAR WORK. WE'RE LOOKING AT A CERT CERTIFICATION PROGRAM. CROSS DISCIPLINARY MULTIDISCIPLINARY APPROACH. HOW DO AGENCIES WORK TOGETHER? UH, ON CASES THAT ARE INVOLVED IN MULTIPLE SYSTEMS AND AT MULTIPLE NEEDS CRITICAL RESPONSE. HOW DO WE BRING ALL THESE ORGANIZATIONS TOGETHER TO WORK ON SPECIFIC INCIDENTS? WE DO SUPPORT THE GB I PROGRAM WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED TODAY. UH WE SUPPORT VOAS CONFLICT MEDIATION CENTER OF HOW PEOPLE CAN DEAL WITH THEIR CONFLICTS IN THE COMMUNITY. UH, WE SPEND WE SPEND LESS MONEY IN SPECIFIC PROGRAMS RELATED TO GIRLS INVOLVED IN VIOLENCE. AND THEN THIS YEAR WE INVESTED IN A LARGE NUMBER OF PROGRAMS. UH, FOR A NEWCOMER COMMUNITIES. UM, THEY'RE ALSO IN, UH, FACING VIOLENCE AS WELL, TOO. GIVE YOU AN UNDERSTANDING OF OUR COMMUNITY VIOLENCE AND INTERVENTION. ONE OF THE CHALLENGES CITIES HAVE WHEN WE'RE USING EVIDENCE BASED MODELS IS HOW DO WE TAKE MULTIPLE MODELS THAT HAVE BEEN PROVING IN OTHER CITIES AND INTEGRATED THEM INTO ONE SYSTEM WITHIN OUR CITY? WE'VE DONE THAT EFFECTIVELY IN LOUISVILLE WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THIS WHOLE GRAPH OR THIS WHOLE DIAGRAM.

BASICALLY WHAT IT OUTLINES IS YOU HAVE THREE PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON RIGHT FOR PROGRAMS. ONE IS TO CURE VIOLENCE MODEL, WHICH IS CONFLICT MEDIATION IN THE STREETS. THESE ARE OUTREACH WORKERS OUT IN THE STREETS, COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS EVERY DAY TRYING TO RESOLVE CONFLICTS AND ENGAGING WITH HIGH RISK INDIVIDUALS. WE HAVE A HOSPITAL BASED PROGRAM THAT MEETS WITH EVERYBODY WHO SHOWS UP AT THE UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL FOR GUNSHOT WOUND OR STAB WOUND AND ASSESSES THEM AND OFFERS THEM SERVICES, UH, THAT THEY COULD BE CONNECTED TO COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS. WE HAVE THE IN HOUSE OCEAN PROGRAM THAT PROVIDES LONG TERM CASE MANAGEMENT. UM AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE GB, WHO FOCUSES ON THE DETERRENT PART OF WORKING WITH THOSE, UM HIGH RISK INDIVIDUALS. SO IN OUR CITY, THESE MAJOR MODELS ARE SUCCESSFULLY INTEGRATED INTO ONE SERVICE DELIVERY AND ONE OF THE FEW CITIES IN THE COUNTRY WHERE THE MOST OF ALL OF OUR PROJECTS, THESE FOUR MODELS WORK TOGETHER.

WE LOOK AT A LOT OF OTHER CITIES . MY EXPERIENCE HAS TAKEN ME TO A LOT OF OTHER CITIES. AND OFTEN THESE MODELS ARE NOT INTEGRATED IN OUR CITY. THEY ARE WE ALSO PROVIDE PROGRAM AND SUPPORT TO TRAUMA, RESILIENT COMMUNITIES. HOW DO WE ADDRESS THE IMPACT OF GUN VIOLENCE IN COMMUNITIES AT THE INDIVIDUAL LEVEL? AND AT THE COMMUNITY LEVEL? WE FIND MULTIPLE PROGRAMS IN THAT AREA, TOO. RIGHT NOW WE'RE FUNDING FREE TRAUMA COUNSELING AT 10. DIFFERENT LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. UH, WE PROVIDE PROGRAM IN THE MENTAL HEALTH SYSTEM AND JUVENILE JUSTICE SYSTEM TO JUST PEOPLE WITH MENTAL HEALTH, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT ARE INVOLVED IN GANGS AND THE UNIQUENESS OF THE TRAUMA. UH, RELATED TO THAT, UH, THERAPEUTIC CHILD LEARNING PROGRAMS, SOCIAL EMOTIONAL SKILLS THROUGH OUR TRAINING. WE FUND A LOT OF PROGRAMS. WE FUND A LOT OF CAPACITY BUILDING. HOW DO COUNSELORS GET LICENSES TO PROVIDE DIFFERENT TYPES OF SERVICES? WE FUND DIFFERENT TYPES OF TRAINING FOR NEW SERVICES. WE HAVE BUILT A I'M SORRY, PAUL. I DON'T WANT TO MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF. UM, I'M GETTING A LOT OF TEXTS FROM A COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT, UM ABOUT WHAT? OUR OCEAN FUNDS. UM I THINK THEY KIND OF WANNA WANNA KNOW WHAT SERVICES YOU GUYS DO BESIDES TRICKLE FUNDS, UM, TO, UH, SOMEONE ELSE AND WE HAVE, UH, GB A THAT WE GOTTA GET UP HERE. SO I I'VE BEEN LEARNING THAT THAT'S JUST A STRATEGY JUST TO BAD TIME. SO, UM, IF WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND GET THE QUESTIONS THAT A LOT OF THEM HAVE, UM, COUNCILWOMAN PURVIS, UH, WE GOT A LOT OF QUESTIONS. COUNCILWOMAN PURVIS, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. UH, MR CALLAHAN. I'M GONNA MAKE IT REALLY QUICK AND LOOKING AT YOUR YOUTH ENGAGEMENT SERVICES. I'M LOOKING AT SOME OF THE SOURCES THAT YOU USE. I WANT TO KNOW. ARE YOU LOOKING TO PARTNER WITH JEFFERSON COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS AS FAR AS YOUTH ENGAGEMENT IN THE FUTURE? WHAT WE CURRENTLY FUND A LOT OF PROGRAMS IN DIFFERENT AREAS THAT WORK WITH JEFFERSON COUNTY STUDENTS. SO ON ALL FOUR DIVISIONS THAT I TALKED ABOUT WHETHER IT'S WORKING WITH HIGH RISK INDIVIDUALS TO THE GD PROJECT, WE WORK WITH JCP.

THEY'RE A PARTNER IN THAT WE WORKED THEM VERY CLOSELY ON PROVIDING INTERVENTION SERVICES.

UH, TO THOSE HIGH RISK STUDENTS. THEY'RE PART OF OUR TEAM THAT THAT LOOKS AT THAT ON A TRAUMA SITE THERE MADE AWARE AND THEY WORK WITH US, AND WE KEEP THEM INFORMED OF WHEN THEIR STUDENTS ARE INVOLVED IN VIOLENCE OR EXPOSED TO VIOLENCE IN THE COMMUNITY. WE WORK WITH THEM ON A REGULAR BASIS ON OUR YOUTH ENGAGEMENT SERVICES. FUND AND AN AWFUL LOT OF PROGRAMS THAT DO SERVICES TO JCPS STUDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY AND ALSO ON SCHOOL SITES. UM, WE WILL BE LOOKING AT OUR BUDGET THIS YEAR OF HOW, HOW , HOW WE'RE GONNA MAINTAIN THOSE SERVICES. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'LL BE ASKING THE JCPS AND I THINK IT'S A REASONABLE QUESTION THAT METRO GOVERNMENT SHOULD ASK IS WHY ARE WE FUNDING COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS SPECIFICALLY PROVIDING SITE BASED SERVICES AT JCPS? WHEN JCPS SHOULD BE FUNDING THOSE SERVICES AND WE'RE ADDRESS AND

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CONTINUE TO WORK WITH JCPS IN THE COMMUNITY WITH THEIR STUDENTS? I AGREE. I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A SOURCE THAT YOU WERE USING TO IDENTIFY A TROUBLED YOUTH. THANK YOU.

ABSOLUTELY. COULD IT COMMITTEE MEMBER SHAMIKA PCE WRIGHT? UM I DIDN'T HAVE MANY QUESTIONS. UM I DON'T HAVE MY NOTES WITH ME. I DID WANNA KNOW. UM, I KNOW THAT ALL THE DEPARTMENTS WERE AT ABOUT 1% WHAT PERCENTAGE HAS YOUR BUDGET CHANGED? UM I'M TRAVELING IN NEW YORK AND I HAD TO. I HAD THOSE ANSWERS YESTERDAY. AND THEN I JUST WANNA THANK YOU FOR THE CONTINUED WORK WITH JCPS AND ALL OF THE PROGRAM DOING AND A LOW BARRIER FUNDING FOR THE SMALL ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE DOING MEANINGFUL WORK, AND I'M GLAD YOU MADE THE DISTINCTION THAT YOU'RE NOT SERVICE BASED. I THINK SOMETIMES THAT IT. BUT I JUST WANTED TO, UH, JUST HERE IN ON RECORD. WHAT IT WHAT IS? UM HA! HAVE YOU PUT YOUR BUDGET? HAVE YOU DONE THE 1% CHANGE OR WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE BUDGET? YEAH, IT'S KIND OF AN INTERESTING QUESTION. SO FIRST OF ALL WE ARE ARE WE WERE ASKED TO TAKE A $2 MILLION REDUCTION ON OUR CONTRACTUAL SERVICES.

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

UH, HAVE YOU FUNDED ANY NONPROFITS THAT HAS MISAPPROPRIATED ANY FUNDS? AND HOW IS THAT BEING POLICED? YEAH. THIS YEAR. AS I SAID, UH, WHENEVER WE DO A GRANT AGREEMENT AND EVERYONE WE HAVE MULTIPLE LAYERS OF, UH UH, CHECKS AND BALANCES OF HOW CONTRACTS ARE ARE MANAGED AND BY OUR VENDORS, RIGHT? FISCAL REPORTS ARE SUBMITTED EVERY QUARTER. WE MANAGE. MONITOR THOSE FISCAL REPORTS. WE REQUIRE PROOF OF ALL EXPENDITURES OF HOW THEY'RE SPENDING DOLLARS ON THE PROGRAM SIDE. WE'RE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY . WE'RE MEETING WITH THEM. WE'RE LOOKING AT THEY ARE THEY DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING IN THE CONTRACT AS AS IT COMES TO FISCAL, UH, MISAPPROPRIATIONS OR FISCAL PROBLEMS. THERE IS ONE ORGANIZATION THIS YEAR THAT WE TERMINATED THEIR CONTRACT FOR OUR CONCERN ABOUT HOW THEIR PREVIOUS DIRECTOR MANAGED FUNDS UNDER A PREVIOUS YEAR WITH US SO UH, THAT WAS, UH, A SPECIFIC ORGANIZATION THAT WE FELT UNCOMFORTABLE. UH HOW THEY WERE HANDLING THE FUNDS. WE GAVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO CORRECT THAT WE WERE ABLE TO AFTER SIX MONTH MITIGATION PERIOD SORT OF ACCOUNT FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE FUNDS. IF NOT ALL THE FUNDS WILL BE FELT UNCOMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT ORGANIZATION, AND WE DID TERMINATE THAT ORGANIZATION. SO THAT IS THAT IS ONE. MOST OF THE FINANCIAL STUFF THAT WE SEE ARE TYPICAL. WHAT YOU WOULD SEE A GRASSROOTS ORGANIZATIONS OR COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATION ARE USUALLY THROUGH A CONFERENCE. CALL OR A FIXTURE, NOTHING THAT WOULD TERMINATE ANY CONTRACTS. OK, SO IT'S JUST BEEN ONE THAT YOU'VE HAD DETERMINATE ONE CONTRACT FOR FINANCIAL REASONS. WE TERMINATED. UM WHO HAVE YOU GAVE MORE THAN $100,000 TO? YOU KNOW THOSE ENTITIES OFF THE TOP? WELL, YEAH, I MEAN, WE'VE GOT AGAIN. WE HAVE MULTIPLE MULTIPLE 210. THE LARGEST BULK OF OUR FUNDING GOES TO OUR COMMUNITY VIOLENCE INTERVENTION SITES, RIGHT, SO THOSE CONTRACTS PREDOMINANTLY ARE A RP FUNDS. THOSE CONTRACTS ARE TWO YEAR CONTRACTS, TYPICALLY AT ABOUT 1.31 $0.5 MILLION, AND WE HAVE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT CO UH THROUGH ORDINANCE. THE PREVIOUS YEARS PASSED WHEN WE ALLOCATE THE OPPORTUNITY YOUTH NETWORK. THERE'S THREE ORGANIZATIONS THAT GET ABOUT $350,000 IN THERE THAT WAS DETERMINED BY COUNSEL. YEARS BACK, SO THERE THERE'S A FAIR AMOUNT OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT GET OVER 100,000. OK, DO YOU HAVE ANY, UM WHAT IS THE GANG PREVENTION PROGRAMS? WELL, THE GAME PROVISION PROGRAMS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE SORT OF OUTLINED UNDER, UH, OUR COMMUNITY PIVOT

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TO PIECE RIGHT? DISAPPEARED FROM THE SCREEN. SO OUR OUR PIVOT TO PIECE INITIATIVE, SO THAT IS OUTSIDE CONTRACTS OR COMMUNITY VIOLENCE. INTERVENTION CONTRACT, SO THEY'RE, UH THERE WAS SIX LEADERS FIVE RIGHT NOW IN THE HOSPITAL PROGRAM. WE PROVIDE SMALL, THOSE CONTRACTS ARE RELATIVELY LARGE. THOSE CONTRACTS COULD BE UP TO A MILLION $1.2 MILLION. THERE ARE SOME SMALLER CONTRACTS WE GIVE OUT TO OTHER ORGANIZATIONS IN THEIR AREA AS WELL, TOO. OK SO DO YOU, UM, WORK CLOSELY WITH GDF? YES. WE'RE A HUGE PARTNER OF GB AND DB. I IS OFFICES IN THE SAME BUILDING AS THE SAME FLOOR WITH US. MIKE HOGAN'S DIRECTOR, DO YOU WORK? Y'ALL CAN BE IN THE SAME BUILDING. I'M ASKING. DO YOU WORK WITH THEM CLOSE? YES SO HERE'S AGAIN.

THINGS COME, BUT WE SHOWED YOU THE INTEGRATION. WE'RE COMPLETELY INTEGRATED WITH GB I WE WORK ON A REGULAR BASIS WITH EB I WE'RE INVOLVED IN OTHER COMMITTEES, THEIR GOVERNANCE FROM THE TOP DOWN TO THE BOTTOM TO THE STREET LEVEL. UH, OF WHAT'S GOING ON. WE'RE INVOLVED IN ALL ASPECTS OF GB I FROM THE INTERVENTION SIDE, RIGHT? GB, I IS DETERRENT MODEL. MIKE EXPLAIN THAT THERE'S A LAW ENFORCEMENT SIDE AND THERE'S AN INTERVENTION SIDE. WE SERVE AS THE LEAD AGENCY COORDINATING AGENCY FOR INTERVENTION. OK SO WHEN, UM GV I HAND YOU A CASE WHEN THEY HAND YOU A CASE DO YOU FOLLOW BACK UP? WITH GVA ON THE CASE, DOES IT? IS THERE ANYTHING THAT REQUIRES YOU TO FOLLOW BACK UP ON THE CASE? UM BEING THAT, UH, YOU DON'T DO DIRECT SERVICES. UM I BELIEVE THAT I'M FULLY AWARE OF WHAT, UH, OCEAN DOES, UH, I MET WITH, UM GDI. I THINK I'M A LITTLE, UH, CONFIDENT ON WHAT THEY DO. I THINK I HAVE A LOT OF COLLEAGUES THAT ARE, UM NOW THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT DO THEIR CONCERN IS THAT THERE IS NO DIRECT UH, SERVICES, UH AND MOST OF THE DIRECT SERVICES ARE BEING UH, TRICKLED DOWN TO NONPROFIT. AND I DO REMEMBER LAST YEAR BUDGET I DID ASK. ARE THESE NONPROFITS BEING POLICED? AND I REMEMBER YOU TELLING ME WELL, NO, COUNCILWOMAN, WE DON'T POLICE. THESE NONPROFITS, YOU KNOW, WE RELY ON THEM TO POLICE. UM AND DEAL WITH OUR COMMUNITIES. AND I REMEMBER ME SAYING THIS THAT IT WOULD BE A TRICKLE DOWN EFFECT AND JUST MY OPINION WOULD BE THAT IT WOULD, UM PEOPLE WOULD LOOK AT OCEAN DIFFERENT BECAUSE OCEAN WAS RELIANT ON NONPROFITS, RIGHT? UM SO, UH, ANOTHER QUESTION DOES, UH, DOES OCEAN AND I. I KNOW THIS, BUT I'M ASKING, UH, DOES OCEAN DEAL WITH THE, UH I HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE POLICE. AS FAR AS, UM RELATIONSHIPS. THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON IN THE STREETS IF THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON, AND, UH UM, OCEAN'S NOT A DIRECT SERVICE. THEN HOW IS LNPD? UM OR GV? I ABLE TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUES THAT ARE GOING ON WITH, UH, A LOT OF THESE CONCERNS AND ISSUES. DO YOU HAVE THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH LNP? OR CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO, UM YOU KNOW MY COLLEAGUES ON WHY YOU DON'T, UH, DEAL WITH THE POLICE, OR CAN YOU EDUCATE THEM ON THOSE THINGS? THAT'S A THAT'S A WHOLE LOT OF QUESTIONS IN IN ONE, SO I'M GONNA BREAK THAT DOWNNE I. I WILL SAY THAT YOUR INITIAL PERCEPTION OF WHAT WE DO FOR SERVICES OR WHAT ANYBODY'S PERCEPTION IS, IS THAT WE'RE NOT PROVIDING DIRECT SERVICES TO THESE CLIENTS IS ACTUALLY WRONG.

THAT'S A FALSE PERCEPTION. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE PROVIDE ONE AREA OF DIRECT SERVICES, AND THAT IS SPECIFIC TO HIGH RISK INDIVIDUALS. WE PROVIDE CASE MANAGEMENT. SO WE SERVE AS THE INTERVENTION ARM OF THE GB PROGRAM. WHEN GB. I IDENTIFIES THE HIGHEST RISK INDIVIDUALS IN THE COMMUNITY. THEY DELIVER A CERTAIN MESSAGE TO THAT GROUP. WE ARE ALSO PART OF THAT PROCESS . ONCE THEY DELIVER A LAW ENFORCEMENT MESSAGE MESSAGE TO THAT GROUP, OUR TEAM GOES OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY OFFERS THOSE INDIVIDUAL SERVICES. IF THOSE INDIVIDUAL SERVICES AGREE, WE SIGN THEM UP AND THEY RECEIVE DIRECT SERVICES FROM US FROM OUR AGENCY. AS FAR AS REPORTING OUT, IT BECOMES A CASE MANAGEMENT ISSUE. WE REPORT OUR DATA AGGREGATE DATA TO OUR GB. I PARTNERS. UH THERE ARE CERTAIN DATA THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO REPORT OUT THAT WE OUR CASE MANAGEMENT AGENCY. THERE'S CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION THAT THAT THAT'S INVOLVED IN THAT, UH, WE'VE WORKED THAT OUT SO MUCH SO THAT THERE WAS A POLICY WRITTEN BETWEEN GB AND OCEAN ON HOW INFORMATION IS SHARED SO THAT THERE IS NO PROBLEM IN THAT AREA. AS FAR AS I SEE AS FAR AS ANYBODY'S RELATED TO ME ON THAT ISSUE. THE ISSUE OF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT IS MORE OF A TRICKY QUESTION YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND THAT'S WHY WE INTEGRATED THAT MODEL THAT I SHOWED YOU.

HOW DO YOU BRING TOGETHER DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT HAVE A LAW ENFORCEMENT APPROACH FROM THE STREET LEVEL OUTREACH APPROACH OUR OUTREACH WORKERS, RIGHT A BOOK FOR OCEAN AND WHERE THEY WORK FOR. SOME OF OUR COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS PUT THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE

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EVERY SINGLE DAY BECAUSE THEY GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY, AND THEY DEAL WITH INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN SHOOTINGS. PEOPLE THAT ARE KILLING EACH OTHER IN REGULAR BASIS, AND THEY HAVE TO BUILD A RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM TO GET THEM TO STOP. AND THEN WHEN WE DO BUILD A RELATIONSHIP, WE HAVE TO BUILD THEIR THAT WE COULD PROVIDE THEM SERVICES. THE ONLY OBLIGATION THAT MY TEAM OCEAN OUTREACH WORKERS HAVE TO REPORT ANYTHING TO THE POLICE SPECIFICALLY, IF WE KNOW THAT THERE'S AN IMMINENT THREAT TO SOMEBODY'S LIFE IF THEY ARE SPECIFICALLY HAVE INFORMATION THAT SOMEONE'S GOING TO BE MURDERED IN A SPECIFIC WAY . TIME BEING COURSE WE'RE GONNA REPORT THAT INFORMATION, BUT WE'RE GONNA BEING ASKED TO REPORT INFORMATION TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON WHAT OUR CLIENTS ARE DOING OR WHAT THEY'RE INVOLVED IN. ABSOLUTELY NOT, AND THAT'S THE UNIQUENESS ABOUT THIS MODEL APPROACH THAT UNDERSEAS LOOK AT. WE'RE ADDRESSING GUN VIOLENCE FROM TWO DIFFERENT ANGLES. THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SIDE WHICH DOES SUPPRESSION AND SOLVES HOMICIDES DOWN THE STREET . I REACH HIS JOB AND COMMUNITY BASED PROGRAMS JOB AND THEY'RE DOING GANG VIOLENCE AND GUN VIOLENCE REDUCTION IS TO STOP SHOOTINGS, NOT NOT SOLVE HOMICIDES. AND IF WE'RE GOING TO TALK PUBLICLY ABOUT OUTREACH WORKERS, POSSIBLY WORKING WITH WITH POLICE OFFICERS, I'M NOT GONNA DO IT BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA GET PEOPLE HURT AND YOU'RE GONNA GET PEOPLE KILLED AND AS FAR AS OUR OFFICE IS CONCERNED, THAT TYPE OF INFORMATION IS NOT GOING TO BE SHARED IN ANY SORT OF FORMAL WAY. BETWEEN OUTREACH ORGANIZATIONS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT. OK UM, WHO POLICES UM THE CONTRACTS AND HOW OFTEN DO THEY REPORT ON THEIR GRANTS? SO ON THE CB, I CONTEXT WE HAVE. WE HAVE SIX CONTRACTS. WE POLICE THEM OCEAN AS WELL AS THE, UH, OMB SARP TEAM, SO THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FISCAL MANAGEMENT OF THOSE CONTRACTS BECAUSE THOSE ARE FUNDED UNDER A RP FUNDS, AND WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PROGRAMMATIC SIDE. SO WE MEET WITH THEM ON A REGULAR BASIS. WE MEET WITH THEM WEEKLY. WE DISCUSS ABOUT THESE CONTRACTS. WE HAVE THERE ARE DIFFERENT MANAGERS. IF YOU LOOK AT AN ORGANIZATIONAL CHART, YOU'RE GONNA SEE WE HAVE 10 MANAGERS SIX, WHICH ARE GRANT FUNDED MANAGERS BECAUSE THEY ARE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY EVERY DAY. WE HAVE SPECIFIC, UH, MANAGER OVER ALL THE CB I SITES THAT ARE MAKING SURE THAT THESE SITES ARE HOLDING TO THE FIDELITY OF THE MODEL AND DOING THE WORK THAT THEY'RE ASKED TO BE DONE UNDER OUR CONTRACT, SO THEY HAVE MANAGED ON A REGULAR BASIS EVERY DAY. UH, WE'RE IN CONTRACT WITH THOSE ORGANIZATIONS CONTACT WITH THOSE ORGANIZATIONS. OK UM I'M GONNA PASS THE, UM, GIVE THE FLOOR TO MY COACH DANCE SENSE. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. COULD YOU EXPLAIN TO ME AGAIN? YOUR COLLABORATION WITH LNPD? SO WE WORK WITH L MP D IN MULTIPLE DIFFERENT AREAS, RIGHT? WE'RE GOVERNING AGENCY. WE WORK WITH OTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCIES IN EVERY DIFFERENT AREA OF REDUCING GUN VIOLENCE. I SIT ON MULTIPLE GUN VIOLENCE REDUCTION COMMITTEES, WHERE THE CHIEF OF POLICE AND OTHER REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SIT ON THOSE COMMITTEES. WE DISCUSSED TRENDS AND ANALYSIS OF WHAT'S HAPPENING ACROSS THE CITY . HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT? HOW DO WE INTEGRATE WITH THAT? UH ON THAT QUESTION THAT WAS POSED TO ME WAS DO WE PROVIDE INFORMATION TO LNPD REGARDING CRIMES IN THE COMMUNITY? CHIDES AND ACTIVITIES OF CLAIMS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH IN THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS NO, WE DO NOT, AND THAT IS STANDARD PRACTICE AMONG ANY OUTREACH ORGANIZATION ACROSS THE COUNTRY BECAUSE OF UNIQUENESS OF THE JOB THAT THEY DO. THEY'RE OUT THERE EVERY SINGLE DAY. THEY'RE NOT CARRYING GUNS. THEY'RE NOT LAW ENFORCEMENT. THEIR JOB IS TO PULL PEOPLE AWAY FROM GUN VIOLENCE BY PROVIDING TREATMENT AND INTERVENTION SERVICES. WE'RE ASKING OUR MEMBERS IN THE COMMUNITY. IF THEY SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING. BUT OCEAN IF THEY SEE SOMETHING, THEY'RE NOT GONNA SAY SOMETHING. YOU'RE ASKING YOUR MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY IN GENERAL. IF THEY SEE SOMETHING TO REPORTED ACKNOWLEDGEMENT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING ME IS DO MY OUTREACH WORKERS OR ANY OUTREACH ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE FUND IS THERE'S A DEMAND OR AN EXPECTATION THAT THEY WILL CALL THE POLICE AND SAY, I AM SO AND SO FROM THIS OUT BEACH ORGANIZATION, I'M REPORTING THIS . NO WE DO NOT. WE DO NOT ASK THAT OF OUR OF OUR RESIDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY TO DO THAT. WE ALLOW PEOPLE TO DO IT ANONYMOUSLY. THERE'S NOTHING IN THEIR CONTRACTS THAT REQUIRE THEM TO WORK WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT. THAT IS A SAFETY ISSUE. YOUR PEOPLE HAVE UNDERSTAND THE WORK THAT THESE PEOPLE DO EVERY SINGLE DAY OUT THERE 24 HOURS A DAY. SOMETIMES THEY'RE WALKING INTO HOMES WITH THIS MUCH MORE INDIVIDUALS WITH FIREARMS AND GUNS THAT ARE TRYING TO KILL EACH OTHER OR KILL OTHERS, AND THEY TRYING TO CALM THAT SITUATION DOWN IF WE GO OUT AND START SAYING THAT THEY ARE WORKING FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, YOU'RE KILLING THAT ENTIRE PROJECT. THEIR GOAL IS TO REDUCE CHILDREN IN THIS CITY.

NOT SO HOMICIDES. WE DO SHOOTINGS AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY AND OUR PUBLIC IS EXPECTING US AS A CITY TO LOOK AT MULTIPLE PROGRAMS THAT GUN VIOLENCE, NOT JUST AROUND L AND PD WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL, TOO. THANK YOU. I WILL ADD TO THIS. THAT EXACTLY THAT THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE HAVE PUT THESE PROGRAMS IN PLACE ARE HIGHLY EFFECTIVE.

WE RAN NUMBERS. THERE'S A 35% REDUCTION IN SHOOTINGS IN THIS CITY SINCE WE PUT THESE PROGRAMS IN PLACE A LOT OF THESE PROGRAMS WE WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS IN SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOODS, SHAWNEE A 61% REDUCTION IN SHOOTINGS, EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE WE PUT THESE

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TEAMS IN PLACE, THERE HAS BEEN A REDUCTION IN SHOOTINGS. AND I THINK IF WE ALLOW THE COURSE THE PROJECT TO TAKE THEIR COURSE AND DO WHAT THEY DO, AND THEY'RE COORDINATE WITH OTHER PROJECTS, INCLUDING LAW ENFORCEMENT. I'M NOT SAYING OCEAN DOES NOT WORK WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT. SOME WORK WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT ON A REGULAR BASIS OF HOW TO REDUCE VIOLENCE ON THE SPECIFIC TOPIC OF OUTREACH WORKERS. GETTING INFORMATION TO THE POLICE. ABSOLUTELY NOT. OK UM, SO NOW THEY HAVE THAT UNDERSTANDING. UM I WANNA ASK YOU THIS. SO UM SO WE ARE CLEAR OCEAN DOES NOT DO DIRECT SERVICES. UM SO WHEN YOU SAY THE DATA, THEN COUNCIL MASK, I'M GONNA GET YOU IN JUST A SECOND WHEN YOU SAY THE DAGGER THAT YOU ALL GO BY. AND WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THAT DATA FROM? UM ARE YOU GETTING THAT DATA FROM THE NONPROFITS? NOW YOU YOU TOOK OUR SLIDE DOWN, SO NO, I DIDN'T TAKE ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT WE WORKED WITH. WITH THE YEAH, LIKE I DIDN'T TAKE ANYTHING DOWN. ONE OF THE BIGGEST PARTNERSHIPS WE WORK WITH L MP D IN THIS PAST YEAR IS THE CREATION OF THE GUN DATA DASHBOARD. THIS GIVES US REAL TIME DEPTH. THIS IS A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN OCEAN AND L AND P. THIS WAS A HUGE PARTNERSHIP. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT REAL TIME GUN DATA IS AVAILABLE TO ANYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY TO USE TO LOOK AT MORE SHOOTINGS ARE AT AND THEY CAN USE THAT DATA TO DETERMINE YOU KNOW WHERE THEY NEED TO ALLOCATE RESOURCES. THEY COULD LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF SHOOTINGS THAT ARE GOING ON. THIS IS THE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF HOW OCEAN WORKS WITH LNPD. THE DATA WE PULL THAT I GAVE YOU IS COMES OFF THIS DASHBOARD. IF WE BREAK IT DOWN BY COUNCIL DISTRICTS, WE BREAK IT DOWN BY NEIGHBORHOODS. WE BREAK IT DOWN BY BLOCKS. YOU CAN LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF SHOOTINGS. SO THE DATA I'M GIVING YOU IS LAW ENFORCEMENT ELEMENT. NPD LAW ENFORCEMENT HOMICIDE AND NO FATAL SHOOTING DATA THAT WE'RE TRACKING EVERY SINGLE DAY IN PARTNERSHIP WITH LNPD THAT WE'RE MAKING AVAILABLE TO THE COMMUNITY TO UTILIZE AS WELL TOO. COUNCIL. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR . THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS COWAN FOR BEING HERE. I JUST I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE NUMBERS. BUT YOU JUST ASKED. YOU JUST ANSWERED THAT. SO I'M GONNA ASK YOU WHAT ABOUT THE NEWBURGH PROGRAM? WHAT'S TAKEN US SO LONG TO GET STARTED? YEAH, SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS WITH NEW BIRTH JUST TO GIVE YOU THE NUMBERS ON THE NEW BIRTH PROGRAM IN TWO YEARS, NEW BIRD IS GUN VIOLENCE HAS GONE DOWN 57% I KNOW IT SEEMS THAT EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUT. WE HAVE A LOT OF GUN VIOLENCE AS A CITY OR SIZE WE DO, BUT WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE WHERE THE REDUCTIONS ARE HAPPENING. TWO YEARS IN NEWBURGH. WE HAVE A FIFTIES BETWEEN 2021 23. WE'VE HAD PROGRAMS IN PLACE IN NEWBURGH, THE ANTI VIOLENCE COITION SOME OTHER PROGRAMS YOU'VE SEEN. I'M NOT SAYING IT'S JUST US. IT'S THE COLLECTIVE OF EVERYBODY'S EFFORT. THERE WAS A 57% REDUCTION THIS YEAR ALONE. WHEN YOU'RE COMPARING IT TO LAST YEAR NEW BE. THERE'S A 20% REDUCTION, SO WHATEVER'S GOING ON IN NEWBURGH IS REDUCING GUN VIOLENCE RIGHT NOW, NEWBERG GETS A WIDE VARIETY OF FUNDING FROM US IN DIFFERENT SOURCES. I'M ASSUMING WHAT YOU'RE SPEAKING TO IS THE $2 MILLION CONTRACT THAT OUR AGENCY APPLIED FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. TO LOOK AT A MODEL AND WE USE NEWBERG IS WHAT IF WE TOOK ALL THESE COOL PROGRAMS THAT ARE WORKING AND PUT THEM IN ONE NEIGHBORHOOD AND JUST SEE HOW WELL THEY WORK TOGETHER, WE WILL BE ABLE TO MAGNIFY AND ACCEPT, YOU KNOW, GROW THAT NUMBER OF RESPONSES AND WE WERE SUCCESSFULLY CHOSEN BY THE DOJ FOR THE UNIQUENESS OF THE IDEA TO DO THAT. SO THAT GRANT REQUIRES A COUPLE OF THINGS ONE. IT TOOK US A COUPLE OF MONTHS TO GET THAT BEFORE COUNCIL TO GET IT SET UP. WE WERE AWARDED RIGHT FOR THE HOLIDAYS AND AFTER THE HOLIDAYS REQUIRES US TO HIRE A PROGRAM MANAGER WITH YOU YOURSELF.

COUNCILWOMAN IS ON THAT HIRING PANEL RIGHT NOW. NOT ALLOWED TO SPEND ANY OF THOSE FUNDS UNTIL WE DO AN ASSESSMENT, UH AND COLLECT CERTAIN DATA FROM, UM, THAT AREA WHICH WE CAN'T DO IF WE GET A PROGRAM MANAGER, SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT WE'VE BEEN PUT TOGETHER AN ADVISORY BOARD. WE'RE WORKING WITH THAT. SO WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE MOVING FORWARD ON THAT PROJECT.

THAT'S A THREE YEAR PROJECT. THE TIMELINE IS OUTLINED FOR THREE YEARS, NOT SIX MONTHS, EIGHT MONTHS TO THREE YEAR PROJECT AND PART OF THE MONEY FOR THAT PROJECT GOES TO THOSE CB. I SITES IT GOES TO A VIOLENCE INTERRUPTION PROGRAM IN NEWBURGH. I CHOSE. NEITHER IS WHEN WE GOT THE $8 MILLION FROM THE CITY. IMPLEMENT VIOLENCE REDUCTION INITIATIVES ACROSS THE CITY VIOLENCE AND WE PUT IN R FA OUT. WE PUT OUT EVERYBODY ACROSS THE CITY AND SAID WE'RE DOING SIX SITES $1.5 MILLION PER SITE, AND NEWBURGH WAS ONE OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS AND WE NEED TO GET A SINGLE ORGANIZATION FROM NEWBURGH THAT APPLIED FOR IT. AFTER ANYBODY GET A SINGLE ORGANIZATION FROM NEWBURGH THAT APPLIED FOR IT. WE WENT DOWN INTO NEWBURGH AND MET WITH COMMUNITY LEADERS AND SAID WE HAVE THIS MONEY. WHY ARE YOU NOT GOING AFTER IT? AND THEY THEY DID. THEY WERE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH IT. SO IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM AND BUILDING ON THEIR COMFORT, COMFORT LEVEL TO ADDRESS AND HANDLE THESE DOLLARS AND ADDRESS THE VIOLENCE INTERVENTION THAT THESE DOLLARS HAVE TO HANDLE, AND WE WENT OUT.

WE GOT $2 MILLION, AND WE'RE GETTING READY TO AWARD THAT PART WITHIN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. WELL I ALSO KNOW THAT THERE WERE PEOPLE THAT APPLIED FOR THAT MONEY AND DIDN'T GET ANY. THEY ACTUALLY BROUGHT PEOPLE FROM THE WEST END AREA OUT LOOKING AT TWO DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES. UH, COUNCILMAN SO ON THE CB I SITES WE DID AN OPEN R FA. WE DID NOT RECEIVE A SINGLE R FA APPLICATION FOR THE NEWBURG AREA . IF I'M UNDERSTANDING YOUR QUESTIONING OF WHAT WAS FUNDED BY PEOPLE THAT OUTSIDE WAS LAST SUMMER, WE FUNDED $600,000 WORTH OF SUMMER PROGRAM AND THAT ENDED

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RECREATION HOURS. SO WE PUT OUT AN RF TO SITES AND SAID, LOOK, IF YOU'RE AVAILABLE TO ACCEPT A RP DOLLARS, WHICH MEANS YOU HAVE TO FRONT THE MONEY UP FRONT. SHE MADE A PROPOSAL TO US AND WE'LL FUND PROGRAMS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH PARKS AND RECS TO EXTEND PROGRAM HOURS AT REC CENTERS.

THERE WERE CERTAIN PROGRAMS IN NEWBURGH THAT WERE FUNDED. YEAH THAT WERE NOT. THEY PROVIDED SERVICES TO NEWBURGH YOUTH THAT MAY NOT BE HOUSED IN NEWBURGH, UH, R IN OR FROM NEWBURGH AS AS A LOCATION, BUT THEY PROVIDE, YOU KNOW MULTIPLE SERVICES AT MULTIPLE REC CENTERS. NEW BIRD BEING ONE OF THEM. CERTAIN NEW ORGANIZATIONS DID APPLY, BUT BECAUSE OF THE RESTRICTION THAT I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER ABOUT THEY HAD TO FUND THE MONEY UP FRONT. THEY WERE INELIGIBLE BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE CAPITAL ON HAND TO FUND THAT MONEY UP FRONT. OK ONE MORE QUESTION, UH, COUNCILOR OK? WHEN YOU SAY NEW BERN. WHAT DO YOU CLASSIFY AS NEWBURG? NOR FOR PRESIDENT. UH, AND I AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE WHENEVER THERE'S A KILLING OR WHATEVER, ON PRESTON HIGHWAY THAT'S NOT NEWBURGH, BUT THE NEWSPAPER ALWAYS SAYS NEAR NEWBURGH OR IN NEWBURG. I JUST LOOKED AT MY PHONE. SOMEBODY JUST GOT KILLED IN NORFORK. IS THAT CONSIDERED NEW BIRTH? UH I WILL ANSWER THAT QUESTION, SAYING THAT OUR OUR OPERATIONAL DEFINITION OF WHAT NEW BIRD IS FOR ANY OF OUR PROGRAMS IS HOW THE CITY DEFINES NEWBURGH. UM NOBODY READS OUT THERE. UH, I. I CAN GET THAT EXACT DEFINITION FOR YOU, BUT WE DO HAVE A DEFINITION THAT TALKS NORTH SOUTH EAST WEST. WHAT ARE THOSE LOCATIONS? WHERE ARE THOSE? THOSE STREETS? I JUST NEED TO KNOW WHERE YOU CONSIDER NEW BIRTH BECAUSE ALL THE TIME. THERE'S SOMEBODY THAT YOU KNOW IT'S KILLED ON PRESTON. UH WE'RE ABLE JUST LIKE A FEW MINUTES AGO IN NORFOLK, AND THEY'LL SAY THE NEWBURGH AREA SO THE NEWSPAPER I MEAN, THE TV IS THE ONE DETERMINES WHERE IT IS, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY NEWBURGH. SO OUR NUMBERS IS PROBABLY UP DOWN A LOT FURTHER THAN YOU SAY, BECAUSE WE ARE PUT IN A BUNCH WHERE NEAR NEWBURG BY THE TV STATION AND EVERYBODY IN NEWBURGH. THEY DON'T LIKE IT AT ALL, BECAUSE IN THEIR CONSTANT WHAT THEY'LL SAY. WE DIDN'T SAY IN THE IN NEWBURGH. WE SAID NEAR NEWBURGH. SO OUR NUMBERS MAY NOT , I MEAN, MAY BE DIFFERENT. WE JUST BEEN CLASSIFIED AS ALL AROUND THE PRESTON AREA AND EVERYWHERE ELSE IS NEWBURGH, WHICH IS I APPRECIATE THAT. I UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU. COMMUNITY MEMBER, UM, PARISH RIGHT? YOU HAD BEFORE. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. UM I JUST WANNA TELL YOU I KNOW. UM IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE UNDER A MICROSCOPE. I BELIEVE ALL THE PUBLIC SAFETY NEEDS TO BE UNDER A MICROSCOPE. BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S NO WAY WE CAN MAKE THIS CITY SAFER WITHOUT THE WORK OF OCEAN AND I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY THE WORK THAT YOU DEDICATE TO THE SMALLER ORGANIZATIONS. IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT AND TO HAVE ONE OUT OF 210 THAT HAPPENS IN IN THE NATURE OF THE WORK AND TO HOW HOW YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO RECTIFY THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT. I WANT TO SEE MORE COLLABORATION WITH THE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS, JUST AS COUNCILWOMAN SHANKLIN IS ASKING ABOUT HER DISTRICT. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON HOW WE CAN HELP SPREAD THE WORD AND YOU DO DO YOUR R, FA S OR ANY OTHER COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES. I TRY TO DO IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA. BUT I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT THROUGH THE PAST LENS. SO I WOULD LOVE TO HELP YOU WITH THAT. ASK SOMEBODY THAT'S BEEN, UH, THAT'S SURVIVED GUN VIOLENCE. NOT ONCE THIS TWICE AND WORKED ON, UM CONFLICT RESOLUTION AND ANTI VIOLENCE IN THE CITY. EVERYTHING YOU SAID ABOUT HOW THE INTERACTIONS GO IS IMPORTANT. IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE PEOPLE. IT'S IMPORTANT TO BUILD TRUST, AND THERE'S SO MANY GROUPS THAT ARE POLICING THEMSELVES, INCLUDING THE POLICE , BUT THE TRANSPARENCY THAT OCEAN HAS BEEN TRYING TO OFFER IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO SEE ALL OVER IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENT AND JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU ARE DOING AND LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU ALL, UM IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, COUNCILWOMAN PERJURY. Y'ALL JUST I JUST WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION SO THAT I CAN SHARE ABOUT THE WORK AND GET MORE PEOPLE ENGAGED THROUGH MY COUNCIL OFFICE. OK THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ALL RIGHT. UH MR CALLAHAN. I WANNA SAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING TODAY. UM HOPEFULLY YOU'VE CLEARED UP A LOT OF QUESTIONS. UM, THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE, UM ASK ME ABOUT A TRIP PUBLIC SAFETY AND I THINK YOU CLEARED UP A LOT OF QUESTIONS FROM OUR CULTURE, THEN S TODAY AND SOME OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, UH, FOR ALL THAT YOU AND ALL YOUR DEPARTMENTS DO. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY. I DON'T MIND ANSWERING QUESTIONS. I KNOW THAT'S MY JOB. UH, OFTEN I JUST WANT TO STATE THIS. TWO

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YEARS AGO, WHEN WE ASKED FOR FUNDING WE WERE GIVEN A RP FUNDING. THERE WAS SOME SKEPTICISM OF WHETHER OCEAN WOULD BE BENEFICIAL IN REDUCING VIOLENCE. AND YOU ASK FOR NUMBERS WE'RE GIVING YOU NUMBERS A 35% REDUCTION IN SHOOTINGS WHEN YOU COMPARE THAT 35% REDUCTION IN SHOOTINGS TO MAJOR CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, WE ARE DOING BETTER OR EQUAL TO MOST OF THOSE CITIES. SO YES, I BELIEVE NOT ONLY OCEAN PROGRAMS, BUT THE FACT THAT WE AS A CITY ARE WORKING TOGETHER AND THAT WE'RE FUNDING A LOT OF COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS AND PROJECTS AND PEOPLE WORKING TOGETHER IS WHAT'S REDUCING OUR VIOLENCE AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO REDUCE OUR VIOLENCE IN OUR CITY. SO THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW. YOU GET UP IN FRONT OF, YOU KNOW, I'M VERY PASSIONATE AND SOMETIMES YOU CAN . YOU KNOW WHEN YOU GET WHEN YOU'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT THINGS, YOU KNOW? I I'M YOU KNOW, SO JUST I THINK IT WAS JUST SO MANY QUESTIONS. AND THERE WERE SO MANY QUESTIONS. THAT WAS ABOVE ME THAT I JUST FELT LIKE THAT YOU GUYS NEEDED TO COME HERE TO ANSWER NOT SO MUCH FOR ME BECAUSE MY YOU KNOW I'M I'M BOTH TO THE GROUND. I'M OUT THERE. UM, BUT FOR A LOT OF MY COLLEAGUES, I WASN'T HURT TWO YEARS AGO TO KNOW THAT, UM YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS WAS SKEPTICAL OF OCEAN AND WHAT YOU GUYS WOULD DO WITH THE FUNDS. SO I WASN'T THERE THEN. UH SO I'M I'M YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID. AND, UM I'M OUT THERE. SO UH UH, IF I WANNA KNOW SOMETHING. I'M GONNA COME AND SEE YOU SO I CAN'T SPEAK FROM ALL THE COLLEAGUES. SO I HAD TO BRING YOU IN. SO YOU COULD YOU KNOW, SO THEY COULD ASK SOME OF THE QUESTIONS. I APPRECIATE THAT. AS A GOVERNMENT AGENCY FOR LOUISVILLE METRO. WE INHERITED THREE POLICIES THAT BUILD PUPPET TRUST, YOU KNOW, ACCOUNTABILITY, TRANSPARENCY AND HONESTY. AND THEN WE'RE WE'RE WOMEN. WE'VE ALWAYS HAVE ANSWERED ANY QUESTIONS. ANYTHING THAT WE FUND ANYTHING THAT WE DO IS 100% TRANSPARENT. WE'VE NEVER HIDDEN ANYBODY FROM ANYBODY AND WE HOLD ALL OF OUR PARTNERS AND OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, UM, SEEING THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE. UM, ANY ANYMORE QUESTIONS. UH, CLERK. CAN YOU READ ITEM FOUR INTO THE RECORD,

[4. ID 24-0213 GROUP VIOLENCE INTERVENTION (GVI) UPDATES – Michael Bogan, Shane Simmons, Group Violence Intervention]

PLEASE? GOOD VIOLENCE INTERVENTION. GBI UPDATES MICHAEL LOGAN, UH, SHANE SIMMONS GROUP VIOLENCE INTERVENTION RED AND BULL. ALL RIGHT. CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND YOUR TITLE AND YOU CAN BEGIN. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS MIKE BOGAN. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF GROUP VIOLENCE INTERVENTION. ALL RIGHT. CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, UH, GB I PROGRAM AND, UH, KIND OF BRIEFLY . JUST UH, DESCRIBE WHAT YOU DO. AND UH, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO BEFORE I BEGIN. I LIKE TO HOW MUCH TIME DO I HAVE? BECAUSE THAT WOULD DETERMINE WE'RE GONNA WRAP UP HERE IN ABOUT MAYBE 30 MINUTES. SO JUST GIVE ABOUT. MAYBE IF YOU CAN'T BRIEF EVERYTHING IN ABOUT 5 TO 7 MINUTES, 5 TO 7 MINUTES, OK, ALL RIGHT. SO REAL QUICK, UH, GO INTO THE HISTORY OF GVR. HOW WE GOT HERE, UH, BACK IN 2020. THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN LOUISVILLE CITY LEADERS AS WELL AS SOME, UH, PRIVATE ENTITIES TO PARTNER WITH NATIONAL NETWORK OF SAFER COMMUNITIES, AND THEIR GOAL WAS TO GIVE A GROUP AUDIT OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY. IF YOU REMEMBER BACK IN 2019 HOMICIDES WERE GOING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION, SO THEY PARTNERED WITH THIS ORGANIZATION TO DO A GROUP AUDIT AND WHAT THEY DETERMINED THERE WAS ABOUT 14 ACTIVE STREET GROUPS IN THE CITY OF LOUISVILLE, WITH ABOUT ESTIMATED 500 25 MEMBERS. AND THE SECOND AUDIT WAS WHAT THEY CALL A VIOLENT INCIDENT REVIEW BETWEEN JANUARY OF 20. IN AUGUST 2020 WHAT THEY FOUND WAS ABOUT 52% OF SHOOTINGS WERE INVOLVING KNOWN OR SUSPECTED GROUPING GANG MEMBERS. AND BASED ON THESE, THESE TWO ARTISTS DECISION WAS MADE TO FORM TO FORGE A PARTNERSHIP TO BUILD AN INFRASTRUCTURE. PART OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS THE GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE. UM AND THIS GOVERNOR'S COMMITTEE IS A COMBINATION OF A PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP. WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THERE IS LAW ENFORCEMENT. THERE IS FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT. US ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. JCPS IS A COUPLE FOLLOW ONE C THREES AND A FEW. UH UH COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE ON THIS STEERING COMMITTEE, AND THEIR JOB IS TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THAT THERE'S TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE WORKING GROUPS AND ME METHODS OF SUSTAINABILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ADHERING TO OUR MISSION AND GOALS. SO WHAT IS GV? I GB. I IS AN EVIDENCE BASED APPROACH TO REDUCING VIOLENCE BETWEEN GROUPS AND GANG MEMBERS. UM AND THE TENANT PURPOSE IS TO KEEP AND IN A COLLABORATIVE WAY TO KEEP INDIVIDUALS AT THE HIGHEST RISK. UM ALIVE, SAFE AND OUT OF PRISON. GVIS BUILT ON A THREE PART APPROACH. WE CALL IT THE THREE PILLARS. THE FIRST PILLAR IS THE COMMUNITY. THE COMMUNITY'S ROLE IS TO BE THAT MORAL VOICE AGAINST VIOLENCE. THE SECOND PART OF THAT, UH MESSAGES WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT LAW ENFORCEMENT DELIVERS, UH THEY PUT THESE GROUPS ON LEGAL OR PUT THEM ON NOTICE OF LEGAL CONSEQUENCES. SHOULD SHOOTINGS CONTINUE. THE THIRD PIECE OF THAT APPROACH IS FOR OUR SERVICE PROVIDERS WHERE THEY PROVIDE A WAY FOR HIGH RISK INDIVIDUALS TO

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DESIST OUT OF THE LIFESTYLE. UM, THERE'S WE DELIVER OUR THREE PART MESSAGE IN ONE OF TWO WAYS.

THE FIRST WAY IS A CUSS NOTIFICATION. OUR CATION TEAM, WHICH IS SEATED BEHIND ME, IS MADE UP OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS. LAW ENFORCEMENT. IN THEIR ROLE IS TO GO TO AN INDIVIDUAL'S HOUSE WHO IS AT HIGH RISK TO DELIVER THAT THREE PART MESSAGE. COMMUNITY SAYS STOP THE SHOOTING , LAW ENFORCEMENT SAYS IF YOU IF SHOOTINGS CONTINUE, THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES FOR YOUR ACTIONS . SERVICE PROVIDERS FOLLOW UP AND SAY, ARE YOU READY FOR SERVICE? NOT EVERYBODY'S READY FOR SERVICE RIGHT AWAY, BUT THEY FOLLOW UP TO SEE IF THESE INDIVIDUALS WANT SERVICE UM LOUISVILLE HAS PIONEERED THE LET ME GO TO THE SECOND PART. THE SECOND WAY WE DELIVER THAT MESSAGE. WHAT WE CALL A CALL IN A CALL IN IS, UH, IS AN EVENT WHERE WE SELECT A NEUTRAL LOCATION, AND A LOT OF EFFORT GOES TO THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION WE CALL IN THOSE WHO ARE AT HIGH RISK TO THIS LOCATION, AND THEN WE PROVIDE A SPEAKER LIST. MAYOR GREENBERG HAS SPOKEN, UH TO THESE INDIVIDUALS. UH CRE HAS SPOKEN TO THESE INDIVIDUALS, SO THERE IS A LINEUP OF SPEAKERS THAT ARE FROM THE COMMUNITY FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT. SERVICE PROVIDERS AND CREDIBLE MESSENGERS, AND THEY DELIVER THAT THREE PART MESSAGE AT A CALL IN CALL INS GENERALLY LAST ON THE ON THE ADULT SIDE, ABOUT AN HOUR ONLY JUVENILE SIDE OF ABOUT 2 TO 2.5 HOURS. UM, BUT LIKE I SAID EARLIER, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY OTHER CITY IN THE NATION THAT IS LEADING THE WAY IN JUVENILE CALL INS. I THINK LOUISVILLE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO WRITE THE BOOK FOR THE NATION ON HOW TO DO A JUVENILE CALL IN WHO DO WE FOCUS ON? WE FOCUS ON INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE AT THE HIGHEST RISK IF YOU'RE A GROUP OR GANG INVOLVED, UM AND YOU'RE AT THE HIGHEST RISK OF BEING A SHOOTER BEING SHOT OR DRIVING THE VIOLENCE. WE COME TALK TO YOU. THIS IS OUR WORKFLOW. UM AND THE WORKFLOW IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT PROVIDES ORDER ORGANIZATION AND PROCESS WHICH I THINK IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THIS THIS EFFORT THAT WE'RE DOING IS MONUMENTAL, AND IT REQUIRES. A PROCESS OF ORGANIZATION AT THE TOP OF THE CHART. WE HAVE OUR REFERRALS. UH DEPARTMENT OF JUVENILE JUSTICE IS A REFERRAL. THEY DEAL WITH THE HIGH RISK, UH, POPULATION AND WE GET REFERRALS FROM THEM. L MP D, UH CD W COURT DESIGNATED WORKERS. THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE THE ONE WHEN A JUVENILE, UM, IS ARRESTED BY THE POLICE. THE POLICE CALLED THE CD W AND TOGETHER TO MAKE A DECISION. DO WE CITE RELEASE? DO WE TRANSPORT TO CORRECTIONS? UM AND THEN JCPS IS ALSO A REFERRAL SOURCE. AND THE PROCESS IS THEY REFER THESE HIGH RISK PEOPLE TO US, AND THEN WE FUNNEL THEM TO OCEAN AND WE'VE ASKED OCEAN TO BE THE LEAD CASE MANAGER. UM AND THEN WE'RE ALSO ASKING OCEAN TO LEVERAGE PARTNERS AT THE TABLE. WE HAVE A NUMEROUS AMOUNT OF PARTNERS. SOME OF THEM ARE SEATED BEHIND ME, AND WE'RE ASKING THEM TO LEVERAGE THESE PARTNERS BECAUSE EACH PARTNER AT THE TABLE HAS SPECIFIC THINGS THAT THEY'RE REALLY GOOD AT. AND OUR GOAL IS TO LEVERAGE THAT TO HELP THOSE OUT OF TOGETHER THAT THAT LIFESTYLE THE BOTTOM THERE, VICTIM SERVICES UNIT THAT'S THEY'RE UNDER LNPD, THE VICTIM SERVICES UNIT. THEY RESPOND TO HOMICIDE SCENES, AMONG OTHER SCENES, UM SO THEY'RE THEIR THEIR BOOTS ON THE GROUND FIRST EYES ON SCENE AND THEY HELP TO MANAGE WHAT WE CALL CPR VVS. WHEN THERE IS A DEATH, IT LEAVES A WAKE FOR FAMILIES TO DEAL WITH . UH, SO WE MEET WITH THESE FAMILIES TO OFFER SERVICES, PRIMARILY MENTAL HEALTH. UH, BECAUSE THESE FAMILIES THERE THEY LOST THEIR LOVED ONES, SO I KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH SOMETHING AND WE PROVIDE OPPORTUNITY FOR SERVICES FOR THEM. UM THESE NEXT FEW SLIDES ARE OUR PARTNERSHIPS, UM, AGAIN TO DO. THIS KIND OF WORK REQUIRES A MASSIVE TEAM EFFORT.

AND THESE ARE THE PARTNERS THAT WE HAVE. LNPD PROVIDES US A. THERE'S A SPECIFIC FOCUS THAT WE HAVE. THERE ISN'T A BLANKET APPROACH. UM THIS IS INTELLIGENCE LED AND THEY POINT US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. WHO IS AT HIGH RISK? UM, THEY ASSIST US ON CUSTOMS. AND THEY AND THEY ALSO ARREST THOSE WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE BECAUSE WE TALK ABOUT LEGAL CONSEQUENCES. LNPD CARRIES OUT LEGAL CONSEQUENCES IF SHOOTINGS PERSIST. WE HAVE FEDERAL PARTNERS AT THE TABLE, PROBATION AND PAROLE IS A TREMENDOUS PARTNER. THEY ASSIST US TO GETTING THOSE WHO ARE ON PROBATION AND PAROLE, WHO IS AT HIGH RISK TO COME TO A CALL IN TO DELIVER THOSE SERVICES. I'VE BEEN LOUISVILLE METRO DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS IS ANOTHER RESOURCE THAT WE HAVE. THEY TOO, HAVE A DATABASE ON WHO'S AT HIGH RISK, AND SOMETIMES THEY HELP US TO DETERMINE WHO'S AT A HIGH RISK. TO DELIVER THAT MESSAGE, TOO. UM SERVICE WRITER PARTNERSHIPS. UM BUT AS I STATED EARLIER, OCEAN IS THE LEAD CASE MANAGER. UM WE'RE ASKING HIM TO LEVERAGE THE SERVICES OF PARTNERS THAT ARE AT THE TABLE. UM WE HAVE JOSHUA COMMUNITY CONNECTORS. UM SO THESE, UM SERVICE PROVIDERS HERE? THEY OFFER A JUST A MYRIAD OF THINGS THEY OFFER. UH, CASE MANAGEMENT.

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UH, THEY MAY OFFER OTHER SERVICES SUCH AS A MENTAL HEALTH . TRANSFORMATIVE JUSTICE. UM THAT'S THE ONLY CLINICIAN THAT WE HAVE TO OFFER MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES TO THOSE WHO ARE IN NEED YOUTH ADVOCATE PROGRAM. THEY WORK WITH JUVENILES, UH, DEPARTMENT OF JUVENILE JUSTICE WILL SOMETIMES GIVE THEIR CASE MANAGING TO YAP. UH COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS I WANNA TAKE. I WANNA HIGHLIGHT THE CREDIBLE MESSENGERS PART A CREDIBLE MESSENGER IS IN IS AN INDIVIDUAL WHO LIVED THE LIFESTYLE. AT SOME POINT THEY WERE THEY RAN THAT LIFESTYLE. UM THEY FOUND HELP.

THEY WERE FORMED, TURN THEIR LIVES AROUND. WE ARE LOOKING FOR THEM. WE FOUND SOME AND IT AND IT'S AN ONGOING SEARCH TO FIND THEM TO HELP US TO DELIVER THAT GV I MESSAGE. I WOULD SAY THEY WOULD GET A LOT FURTHER THAN I CAN. BUT IN MANY WAYS I CAN'T RELATE. ONE OF THEM IS AGE. UM BUT WE'RE LOOKING FOR PEOPLE WHO BEEN DOWN THAT PATH. WHO CAN HELP US DELIVER THAT MESSAGE? UM FAMILIES, THE FAMILIES THAT WE'VE SPOKEN TO AND DEALT WITH. THEY'RE BROKEN. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT'S GOING ON IN THIS FAMILY THAT LED THIS YOUNG MAN OR YOUNG LADY TO SHOOT SOMEBODY.

UM, SO WE'RE ASKING FAMILIES TO SUPPORT THAT THREE PART MESSAGE, UM, OF MORAL VOICE CONSEQUENCES.

HELP IF YOU NEED IT. AND THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE. UM IN MY OPINION FOR THIS TO TAKE OFF AND REALLY WORK IT A LITTLE WAY IT NEEDS TO THIS IS A COMMUNITY EFFORT. UM, THERE'S NO ONE WHO LIVES IN THE CITY WHO COULD AFFORD TO SAY IT'S NOT MY PROBLEM. IT IS EVERYBODY'S PROBLEM, AND IT REQUIRES A COMMUNITY. UM, SOLUTION. THESE ARE OUR JUDICIAL PARTNERSHIPS.

WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT IS THAT UM WE HAVE TO BE IN ALIGNMENT ON THE LEGAL SIDE TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE SAY THERE ARE LEGAL CONSEQUENCES, WE GOT TO MEAN IT, SO THERE HAS TO BE AN ALIGNMENT ON THE ON THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SIDE. SO WE'VE MET WITH THE A GS OFFICE WITH A G RUSSELL COLEMAN.

HE'S PLEDGING SUPPORT. UM WE ARE , UH, MET WITH DURING THE WEATHERS WITH THE COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO HAVE A TASK FORCE THAT IS DEDICATED TO PROSECUTING AND MAKING SURE THAT THAT THOSE WHO ARE SHOOTING ARE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. WE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. WE HAVE ALREADY MET WITH DISTRICT COURT JUDGES. WHAT I FOUND IS THERE'S A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO'VE HEARD OF GV. I HURTS A LITTLE OF GVA AND CAN SPEAK ON GV. UM SO WE MET WITH THEM SO THEY CAN UNDERSTAND HOW TO LEVERAGE US IN COURT. SO WHEN THESE INDIVIDUALS COME ACROSS THEIR DOCKET, THEY UNDERSTAND THAT. OH, YOU'RE A GV. I CLIENT. WE'RE GOING TO HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN TOLD THE MESSAGE. YOU'VE BEEN GIVEN OPPORTUNITY FOR HELP. AND YOU WERE TOLD THAT THERE ARE LEGAL CONSEQUENCES. YOU COME ACROSS MY DOCKET, THEN WE'RE GONNA HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE. UM, WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH RETIRED JUDGE. UH, UM TO, UM, TO ORGANIZE A MEETING WITH CIRCUIT COURT. THAT'S THE NEXT STEP FOR US IS TO MEET WITH CIRCUIT COURT JUDGES SO THEY CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT WE DO BECAUSE TO MY UNDERSTANDING, A LOT OF THEM HAVE BEEN NEWLY ELECTED SO THEY MAY NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT WE DO. SO WE GET IN FRONT OF THE CIRCUIT COURT AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S AN ALIGNMENT ON THE JUDICIARY SIDE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE HOLDING PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE. THESE ARE SOME OF OUR STATISTICS AND TRENDS OF WHAT WE'VE SEEN. UM CURRENTLY, AS I STATED EARLIER, IF YOU REMEMBER THERE WERE 14 ACTIVE STREET GROUPS BACK IN 2020. UM, TODAY, THERE'S NINE OFFICIAL GANGS AND 24 GROUPS. WHAT DO I MEAN BY AN OFFICIAL GANG? YOUR VALIDATED. THERE IS A PART THERE'S A, UH, A STATUTE THAT YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO BE A VALIDATED GANG MEMBER, AND THIS REQUIRES THE HELP OF LNPD.

THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF BACKGROUND INVESTIGATIONS THAT I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK ABOUT. BUT, UM, WE'RE ABOUT NINE. VALIDATED GANGS IN 24 GROUPS, SO THERE'S BEEN AN EXPLOSION. OF THESE STREET GROUPS. LANDSCAPE OF GANGS TODAY, UM I'M NOT A GANG EXPERT. BUT BASED UPON MY CONVERSATIONS AND OBSERVATIONS, GANGS ARE NOT THEY LIKE THEY WERE 20 YEARS AGO. THE OLDER GANG STILL OPERATE LIKE THEY DID WHAT I WHAT I MEAN BY THAT THERE'S A THERE'S A HIERARCHY.

THERE IS A THERE'S A PLAN. THERE'S A WOMAN AND CHILDREN ARE OFF LIMITS. WHAT WE'RE FINDING IS THAT THERE'S BEEN AN EVOLUTION IN THESE GANGS AND STREET GROUPS. ON MONDAY, YOU AND I COULD BE TOGETHER IN ONE GAME AND WE GET INTO IT OVER A GIRL. WE SEPARATE AND FORM A DIFFERENT GANG. THEY BREAK APART AND FORM NEW GANGS CONSTANTLY. SO THERE IS SEEMS TO BE A LACK OF ORGANIZATION. THERE IS A LACK OF HIERARCHY. UM IF YOU SPEAK TO SOME OF THE OLDER PEOPLE WHO'S IN THAT LIFESTYLE, THEY'LL TELL YOU WE CAN'T CONTROL THIS GENERATION THAT'S COMING UP. SO THERE'S BEEN THIS OVERALL CHANGE IN THE LANDSCAPE OF GANGS AND GROUPS IN THE CITY. UM AS I SPOKE OF EARLIER, THEY SPLINTER AND FORM NEW GROUPS CONSTANTLY. UM WHAT'S DRIVING SOME OF OUR VIOLENCE? SOCIAL MEDIA IS A MAJOR PROBLEM. UM THEY GET ON THERE AND DO WHAT THEY CA DRILL RAP. OR THEY RAP ABOUT UM, PARTICULAR CRIMES MURDERS AND THEY THEY MAKE FUN OF THE MOTHER. THEY SAY I MADE YOUR MOM CRY. THEY UH THEY VERBALLY ATTACK THESE GROUPS AND THE GROUP THAT'S ON THE RECEIVIN END DOESN'T NEED TO RESPOND. AND THEN THERE'S A RESPONSE. AND THERE'S TS BA ANDORTH ON SOCIAL MEDIAHROU THERILL RACK. U OES BEE

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AR. EY BAC YEA DER.AVE FAMILY WHO WEREOW KILLED YEARS AGO, AND THE PERSON WHO KILLED HIM WENT TO PRISON. UM, UPON RETURNING HOME FROM PRISON. THEY'RE IN DANGER BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T FORGET WHAT HAPPENED YEARS AGO. A LOT OF THESE BEEFS ARE ARE ARE YEARS OLD. UM AND IN RESPONSE TO THAT WE ARE NOW BEGINNING TO FOCUS ON PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING HOME. UM FROM PRISON, AND WE'RE TRYING TO IDENTIFY THAT YOU'RE AT RISK WE GOT TO FIND DIFFERENT WAYS FOR YOU TO COME HOME. MHM. UM, LET'S SEE. THERE'S A TREND THAT WE FOUND THAT WE'VE UNCOVERED.

THERE'S ABOUT SEVEN PEOPLE THAT'S BEEN KILLED ON H IP SINCE 2022 AND 35 PEOPLE SHOT ON H IP.

WHAT IS THIS? WHAT IS THIS, TELLING US? THAT PEOPLE ARE THEY'RE FINDING OUT THAT THOSE WHO ARE AT HIGH RISK WHO ARE BEING SENT HOME IN H IP. THEY'RE FINDING OUT THAT YOU WERE HOME ON H IP. AND YOU'RE A SITTING DUCK AT HOME. UM, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE FINDING OUT. UM AND WE'RE WORKING ON WHAT CAN WE DO? TO MINIMIZE THAT. NOT EVERYBODY THAT'S ON H. IP IS AT RISK OF BEING SHOT. BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS WHO THEY DID THE CRIME. THEIR OWN H, IP AND PEOPLE ARE FINDING OUT UM AND THEN GOING AFTER HIM. SO UM, ON FOR STATISTICS, I DECIDED TO GO BACK. I WAS APPOINTED IN JULY OF 23. UM SO I DECIDED TO GO BACK TO MY APPOINTMENT AND THEN YOU TO DATE. SO THESE ARE SOME STATISTICS THAT WE'VE, UH, ACCOMPLISHED SO FAR. 208 CUSTOM NOTIFICATIONS. THAT MEANS THAT THERE ARE 208 PEOPLE THAT WE DEEMED HIGH RISK WORTHY TO RECEIVE OUR GV I MESSAGE OF THOSE WHO 108. WE SUCCESSFULLY GOT IN FRONT OF 156 PEOPLE. SO IN OTHER WORDS, 156. PEOPLE IN THIS CITY WHO ARE HIGH RISK RECEIVED OUR MESSAGE OF STOP THE SHOOTING. THERE WERE CONSEQUENCES IF YOU DON'T STOP. IF YOU WANNA STOP, THERE'S HELP.

UM 100 AND SIX WE GOT IN FRONT OF 100 AND SIX JUVENILES. UM, WE GOT IN THE FRONT OF 50 ADULTS, UH, IS A FURTHER BREAKDOWN TO WHO WE GOT IN FRONT OF THE 156 PEOPLE, UM, THAT WE'VE GIVEN THE MASS TO SIX OF THEM HAVING REARRESTED FOR GUN RELATED CRIMES. THAT'S ONE OF THE MEASURABLES THAT WE HAVE. FOR RECIDIVISM. UM AND THIS RANGES FROM GUN POSSESSION TO ACTUAL ROBBERY, CARJACKING. I BELIEVE THERE'S ONE SHOOTING THAT'S INVOLVED IN THAT. EIGHT OF THEM HAVE BEEN SHOT AGAIN. TWO OF THE EIGHT WERE MURDERED. SIX OF THEM WERE SHOT BUT WERE NON FATAL. UM AND THERE'S 24 FOCUSED DETERRENT . WHAT DO WE MEAN BY THAT? WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, INDIVIDUALS. WHO ARE ON THE PATH. YOU HAVEN'T SHOT ANYBODY YET. YOU'RE HANGING OUT WITH THESE GROUPS. UM, YOU HAVE BEEN SHOT AT. YOU'RE KIND OF THE NEXT MAN UP. UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT THEM AS WELL BECAUSE WE WANNA PREVENT THE SHOOTINGS. UNFORTUNATELY MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE GOT IN FRONT OF HAVE BEEN SHOT ALREADY, AND WE'RE TRYING TO PREVENT RETALIATION. OUR GOAL IS TO REVERSE THAT I WANT MORE FOCUS TO TURN AND LESS PEOPLE SHOT. SO OF THE SINCE 2000 OR JULY OF LAST YEAR. WE GOT IN FRONT OF 24 OF THEM. SO THIS IS WHAT WE DETERMINE. THIS IS HOW WE MEASURE WHAT WE'RE DOING. THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE BELIEVE ARE PERHAPS UNDER OUR CONTROL.

WE OBVIOUSLY WANT TO REDUCE. UM THE PERCENTAGE OF GANG AND GROUP SHOOTINGS IN THIS CITY. WE ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DELIVERING THE MESSAGE ACCURATELY AND CONSISTENTLY TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE. ARE WE IDENTIFYING THOSE WHO ARE AT HIGH RISK? ARE WE ARE WE IDENTIFYING THOSE WHO HAVE INFLUENCE SOME OF THESE GROUPS STILL HAVE INFLUENCES. WE WANT TO GET TO THE INFLUENCER, GET THEM THE MESSAGE AND HOLD THE ENTIRE GROUP RESPONSIBLE FOR THE WHERE THE GROUPS AND GANGS ARE SELF REGULATED. UM OUR CONTACT RATE ON C NOTIFICATION ATTEMPTS. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IS THAT EVERYBODY THAT WE TRY TO CONTACT? DON'T ANSWER THE DOOR.

SOME OF THEM SOME OF THEM, UH, MOTHERS ARE HIDING THEM. I'VE HEARD OF MOTHERS ACTUALLY HIDING SHOOTERS FROM US. UM, SO THAT'S A PROBLEM. UM, WE TALKED ABOUT WE TRACK RECIDIVISM RATE. WE GO BACK ONE YEAR IF YOU GET THE MESSAGE. AND WITHIN ONE YEAR YOU ARRESTED FOR GUN RELATED CRIME.

WE COUNT THAT AS A AS RECIDIVISM , AND THEN WE ALSO LOOK AT RE VICTIM. THOSE WHO'VE GIVEN WHO HAVE RECEIVED THE MESSAGE. ARE YOU BEING SHOT AT AGAIN? NOT ONLY SHOP AT BUT ALSO SHOP AS WELL AS AN IN A NON FATAL WAY. WE'VE COME A LONG WAY. UM WE ARE NOW AN INDEPENDENT DEPARTMENT.

UM I HAD TO, UH, THANK MAYOR GREENBERG AND DE DEPUTY MARY JAMES WERE THERE. UH, SUPPORT IN WHAT WE DO, THERE IS FISCAL SUPPORT AND THERE'S PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SUPPORT AND WHAT WE DO, BUT WE'RE A STAND ALONE DEPARTMENT. UM, WASN'T ALWAYS THAT WAY. I BELIEVE WE WERE UNDER THE OFFICE OF PERFORMANCE IMPROVEMENT. SOME YEARS AGO. AND AS OF JULY OF 23. WE'VE BEEN

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SEPARATED. WE'RE OUR OWN DEPARTMENT UNDER EMERGENCY SERVICES. WE HAVE A GENERAL FUNDS BUDGET. OUR STAFF HAS BEEN EXPANDED AND THEY'RE SEATED BEHIND ME. OF A PROJECT MANAGER AND AN ADMIN COORDINATOR SHANE SIMMONS AND TRACY HOBBS BROWN. UH, WE HAVE STEERING COMMITTEE SUPPORT. THIS SUPPORT IS ROBUST. UM THEY'RE ENGAGED. YOU'RE GIVING US IDEAS? UM, ON HOW TO STAY ON TASK. UM THE COMMUNITY SHOOTER REVIEW WE MEET ONCE A WEEK. AND THESE ARE THE FOLKS WHO ARE, UM TO THE FRONT LINE. PEOPLE AT THIS TABLE JCPS, UH, 501 C THREES. UH, COMMUNITY.

FAITH BASED OCEAN. THERE'S A THERE'S A WIDE WEB. UH UH, THERE'S A TABLE THAT WE SIT AT AND EVERY WEEK UH, WE GET TOGETHER TO TALK ABOUT WHO DO WE DETER? WHO DO WE DIRECT THE MESSAGE TO? BUT WE HAVE UNIFIED UNDER ONE MISSION, AND I'M PROUD OF THE TEAM FOR DOING THAT AGAIN. THIS IS A TEAM APPROACH. BUT WE HAVE WRITTEN ONE MISSION. ONE VISION AND WE'RE NOW UNIFIED BEHIND THAT. UM THERE'S A GREATER AWARENESS WITH LNPD. UM AND THERE'S A COMMITMENT THAT I RECEIVED FROM THE CHIEF TO HELP SUPPLEMENT MY CUSTOM TEAM. RIGHT NOW. I HAVE ONE TEAM, BUT I'M TRYING TO GROW THAT, AND THEY PLEDGED TO HELP SUPPLY THAT WITH SOME OF THEIR OFFICERS. I KNOW THEY'RE SHORT, BUT THEY PLEDGED TO SUPPLY THAT. UM GREATER ENGAGEMENT AT THE YOUTH CALL IN WE'VE HAD OFF DUTY OFFICERS SHOW UP AT A CALL IN TO OFFER MENTORING SERVICES AT KIDS, UM AND THAT'S THAT'S ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THEY NORMALLY DO, AND I'M APPRECIATIVE OF THEM DOING THAT. UM I HAVE MONTHLY MEETINGS WITH L MP DS, UH, LONG TERM INVESTIGATION TEAM. THERE'S ABOUT FOUR OF THEM THAT ARE SPECIALTY UNITS. AND THE GOAL IS THEY TELL ME WHAT THE INTELLIGENCE IS. UM, WE I TAKE THAT INFORMATION. WE DOCUMENT IT . AND THEN IN RETURN, I GIVE THEM THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE GOTTEN THE MESSAGE. SO WHEN YOU COME WHEN THEY COME ACROSS YOUR, UM WHEN YOU COME ACROSS THEM YOU NOTATE THAT IN YOUR CITATION THAT THAT'S OUR WAY OF HOLDING PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE. TO DO THAT. UM SO WE MEET MONTHLY UM, AND THEN THERE'S A DEEPER INVOLVEMENT WITH LNPD ANALYSTS. THEY HAVE A TEAM OF ANALYSTS. UM WHO PROVIDED INTEL FOR US, SO WE'VE MET WITH THEM, AND IT'S GONNA BE AN ONGOING MONTHLY MEETING WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IDENTIFYING THE RIGHT PEOPLE. AND THEN THERE'S ONGOING SUPPORT FROM CHEAPER EVERY TIME I SEE HER, SHE SAYS, MIKE, WHAT CAN I DO TO HELP YOU? UM SHE'S PLEDGED HER VERBALLY HAS PLEDGED IT AND ALSO DEMONSTRATED THAT BY UM, ALLOWING OTHER OFFICERS TO COME AND GIVE US HELP ON CUSTOM NOTIFICATIONS. FUTURE PLANS. UM THERE IS A SPECIAL IN MY OPINION THAT THERE'S TO HELP SOMEBODY GET OUT OF THEIR LIFESTYLE AS A AS A SPECIALTY SKILL. NOT EVERYBODY HAS IT. UM SO WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR PEOPLE WHO SPECIALIZE IN THAT SKILL SET AND HELPING PEOPLE EXIT THE LIFESTYLE. UM I'VE TALKED ABOUT INCREASING NOTIFICATION TEAMS. UH, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE WITH WITH CALL INS WE'VE HAD UH, I BELIEVE WE'VE HAD HOW MANY HAVE WE HAD? THREE JUVENILES AND THREE ADULTS SO FAR SINCE JULY OF 23. WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING TO INCREASE AWARENESS ON PLATFORMS. I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU, MA'AM FOR BRINGING US TO YOUR EVENT, UM TO EXPRESS TO THE, UH, INDIVID OR YOUR CONSTITUENTS WHAT WE DO, AND I'M GONNA THIS INVITATION TO YOU ALL AS WELL. IF YOU WANT GV I TO COME SPEAK TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS EMAIL ME. WE'LL BE THERE. UM WE'RE WE'RE NOW COMING OUT OF THE CRAW FACE AND I WERE IN THE WALK PHASE. WE HAVE A WEBSITE. WE JUST GOT OUR BROCHURES WE HAVE WE HAVE WE HAVE POLO SHIRTS. NOW WE'RE A BONA FIDE DEPARTMENT NOW, SO WE'RE GROWING UP. UM AND ALSO TO ENSURE THAT THE LINES OF COMMUNICATION WITH OUR PARTNERSHIP STAY OPEN. BECAUSE TO KEEP THIS GOING, WE HAVE TO CONSTANTLY STAY IN TUNE WITH EACH OTHER AND MAKING SURE THAT OUR ROLES ARE DEFINED IN THOSE HALF, UH, THAT THEY'RE EQUIPPED TO FULFILL THEIR ROLES. UM AND THEN FINALLY, UM, WE'RE WORKING TO STREAMLINE THAT PROCESS. OF A HIGH RISK PERSON THE FIRST TIME THEY ENCOUNTER ON THE STREET WITH PATROL ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE ADJUDICATION PROCESS TO STREAMLINE THAT, SO THAT'S AN ONGOING EFFORT THAT WE'RE DOING.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU AND I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. WELL, THAT WAS A LOT. I DIDN'T CUT YOU OFF BECAUSE YOU ANSWERED A LOT OF, UM MY QUESTIONS. UM, I HAVE A FEW MORE, UM HOW MANY, UH, 501 . ENTITIES THAT YOU HAD AT THE TABLE DURING THOSE MEETINGS THAT YOU HAVE I HAVE ONE. SO THE, UM YOU GUYS YOU DO. KINDA DO MORE OF A, UH, DIRECT SERVICE. UH C, YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS JUST FOR MY COLLEAGUES. SO YOU KINDA KNOCK ON THE DOORS AND YOU KINDA DELIVER A MESSAGE LIKE, HEY, WE KNOW YOU ACTIVE, WHETHER YOU OPEN THE DOOR, WHETHER THEY PEE IT OUT THE DOOR, YOU LETTING

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THEM KNOW? HEY WE HERE. WE KNOW IT'S SOMETHING GOING ON. I MEAN, RIGHT, CAN YOU CAN YOU SOLIDIFY THAT KIND OF THE FIRST? YES, MA'AM. THAT'S THAT'S UH, THAT'S OUR CUSTOM NOTIFICATION TEAM. UM SO UH, THEY'RE BEHIND ME. I DON'T WANT TO NAME THEM. BUT BUT, UH BUT THAT'S THEIR ROLE IS THAT THEY KNOCK ON THE DOOR. FOR JUVENILE. WE DON'T REALLY WE, WE DEAL WITH THE PARENTS IN FRONT OF THE JUVENILE, AND OFTENTIMES WHEN YOU KNOCK ON THE DOOR, THERE'S A MOTHER. THERE MAY BE AN UNCLE. THERE MAY BE A BABY, A BABY SISTER OR THE FAMILY. WE'RE RECOGNIZING THAT THESE FAMILIES THEY NEED WRAPAROUND SERVICES. UM, BECAUSE THE JUVENILE TRIGGER PULLER. SOMETHING WENT WRONG IN THIS YOUNG MAN'S LIFE FOR HIM TO BE ON HIS PATH. SO WE ENTER THE HOUSE AND WE BUILD A RELATIONSHIP WITH CUSTOM TEAM IS EXCEPTIONAL AT BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS WITH WITH THESE FAMILIES. UM OFTENTIMES THESE CUSTOM NOTIFICATION MEANS OFTEN IN IN TEARS. BECAUSE WHEN YOU FIRST WALK IN, THEY ACT HARD, YOU KNOW, THEY ACT LIKE THEY DON'T NEED ANY HELP. BUT OVER TIME, THEY'RE EXCEPTIONAL AT BREAKING THAT DOWN AND GETTING TO THE BOTTOM. WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP YOU? UM IN OFTEN, OFTEN TIMES THEY THEY OPEN UP AND THEN WE GIVE THAT MESSAGE. WELL IF YOU CONTINUE, WE HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT. WE HAVE FBI. WE HAVE THE US OR THE US ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. BUT IF YOU NEED THAT, IF YOU WANT HELP, IF YOU WANT OUT, WE ARE PARTNER WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE SEATED BEHIND THIS THAT CAN HELP YOU GET OUT OF LIFE. OK HOW IMPORTANT IS, UH, THE COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO THE SUCCESS OF, UH GV? I VITAL. WE HAVE. WE'RE STILL LOOKING FOR CREDIBLE MESSAGE. WE FOUND SOME. WE FOUND AN INDIVIDUAL. UM, WHO TREMENDOUS STORY. WAS WAS IN THE LIFE AND FOUND MENTORSHIP. UM FOUND CHRIST. AND COMPLETELY CHANGE WHETHER HE'S YOUNG, TOO, AND COMPLETE CHANGE IT AROUND. HE ATTENDED OUR LAST CALL IN AND HE SAID HE WANTS TO BE PART OF WHAT WE DO, BUT THE COMMUNITY. UM IT'S BEEN SAID FROM OUR TEAM THAT THIS IS YOUR COMMUNITY, AND WE REALLY NEED THE PUBLIC AS A WHOLE, UM, TO BE INVOLVED, UM, TO ASK FOR CONSEQUENCES, IF THEY SEE A SHOOTER THAT'S OUT. ASK FOR CONSEQUENCES POINT PEOPLE IN THE DIRECTION FOR SERVICE PROVIDERS. UM WE HAVE OCEAN JOSHUA COMMUNITY CONNECTORS. GOODWILL THAT'S ON 28TH, OR 29TH AND BROADWAY. THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE THAT ARE HERE TO HELP YOU TO GET OUT THE LIFESTYLE AND WHAT WE'RE NOTICING. AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WE JUST REFUSE. UM WE HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE WHERE WE CALL THEM BACK. WE DO FOLLOW UPS. UM AND SOME OF THAT, AND YOU BE MAYBE WON'T BE SURPRISED. BUT ON THE FOLLOW PEOPLE CAN BE PRETTY NASTY. UM WHERE THEY JUST REFUSE. HELP I DON'T NEED YOU. WE'LL DO. WE'LL TAKE CARE OF IT OURSELVES. UM AND THEN SOME ARE OPEN TO IT. WE ALSO FOUND THAT THERE SOME PEOPLE JUST NEED BASIC IDENTIFICATION. I NEED HELP WITH DRIVER'S LICENSE, AND MISS TRACY DOES A GREAT JOB OF CALLING HIM BACK AND WALKING THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS OF A ACQUIRING IDENTIFICATION SO IT CAN DO THE JOB. SO BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THE COMMUNITY IS VITAL FOR THIS TO WORK. OK RIGHT. IT IT IT SEEMS THAT YOU'RE VERY UN POINT ABOUT THE GENERATION THAT WE DEAL WITH TODAY. UM AND LASTLY, I WANNA ASK YOU, UM WHAT ? OR UM, I KNOW I SPOKE WITH YOU , UH, BEFORE WHEN WE MET, AND I GOT A, UM, A GREAT, UM, VISION OF WHAT YOU GUYS DO. UM AND THE SERVICES THAT YOU PROVIDE. UH, ONE OF THE CONCERNS WAS, UH, THAT AND I WANT YOU TO EITHER SOLIDIFY OR CLARIFY IT. AND THAT IS, UM THE FOLLOW UP. THE FOLLOW UP THAT YOU, UH, WHEN YOU ARE IF YOU GIVE A CLIENT TO OCEAN, RIGHT? BECAUSE I KNOW I ASKED THE QUESTION. DID YOU AND OCEAN WHERE YOU GUYS PARTNERS? OR MAYBE NOT SO MUCH PARTNERS. BUT DO YOU GUYS WORK TOGETHER? I KNOW OCEAN IS NOT A DIRECT SERVICE. IT SEEMS AS IF YOU GUYS COUNT ON ARE BUT AS FAR AS YOU GUYS BEING PARTNERS WHAT? WHAT WAS IT THAT YOU STATED THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UM AND THE ONLY REASON THAT THAT I ASKED THIS IS BECAUSE, UM IS IT GB THAT WILL COLLECT THE DATA OR IS THE OCEAN THAT WILL COLLECT THE DATA? BECAUSE IF GB I IS GIVING A CLIENT TO OCEAN THEN YOU WOULD . WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE? ONCE YOU GET THAT CLIENT TO O, CAN YOU GIVE ME EXACTLY WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE ALCO WHETHER IT'S BEING DONE NOW? BECAUSE WE KNOW WE TALKED THAT IT'S NOT BEING DONE. WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE? UM WITH THAT CLIENT. AFTER YOU'VE GIVEN IT TO OCEAN. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE THAT CLIENT COME BACK AROUND

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FULL CIRCLE? UH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE THAT CLIENT SO YOU CAN ADD TO YOUR DATA LIKE, WELL, HEY , WE'VE GIVEN THIS. WOULD YOU LIKE A FOLLOW UP? UM WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE ONCE YOU'VE DO YOU JUST GIVE THAT CLIENT TO OCEAN AND THEN YOU'RE DONE OR HOW DO YOU COLLECT YOUR DATA OTHER THAN SAYING, HEY, WE GAVE IT TO OCEAN. WE'RE OUT OF IT. SO IN TERMS OF DATA COLLECTION WE IN PAUL AND I HAVE DISCUSSED THIS AND WHICH WE'RE WORKING THROUGH. WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED TO KNOW. DETAILED CASE FILES, BUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS GENERAL INFORMATION. HAVE THEY ACCEPTED SERVICES? YES BECAUSE THE FACT THAT WE'RE ON OUR FLOOR I'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW THEIR STAFF. TREMENDOUS STAFF, AND I'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW THEIR PROCESS BECAUSE WE MET WITH THEM AND I CAN. I CAN I UNDERSTAND CONCEPTUALLY. THEIR GOAL WAS TO DESIST THE AMOUNT OF THE LIFESTYLE SO WE'RE WORKING ON A PROCESS OF WHAT DO EXACTLY WHAT I WANNA KNOW. SO HAD THEY ACCEPT THE SERVICES? YES. GENERALLY HOW THEY'RE DOING. ARE THEY AGAIN? THIS IS A GENERAL THING, ARE THEY ARE THEY FOLLOWING PROTOCOL ? JUST A GENERAL SENSE, SO THAT WAY WE CAN TRACK AND UNDERSTAND WHAT'S NECESSARY AND WHAT'S NEEDED. BECAUSE EVERY BECAUSE WE'RE AT THE SAME TABLE AND WE DISCUSS DAY IN AND DAY OUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH UM YOU KNOW, WITH WHAT'S GOING ON WITH WITH THE HIGH RISK PEOPLE. SO WE HAVE A PROCESS NOW THAT WE'RE BUILDING OF A 369 AND 12 MONTH. IS ULTIMATELY THE GOAL IS TO GET THEM OUT. SO. I'M GONNA JUST ASK IN A DIFFERENT WAY. SO IS OUR IS GV I AND OCEAN ARE YOU PARTNERS? WERE THEY FOLLOW UP WITH YOU AFTER A CLIENT AFTER THEY WORK WITH A CLIENT? THEY DO THEY NOT FOLLOW UP WITH YOU. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE HIM? FOLLOW UP WITH YOU LIKE OR OR YOU'RE NOT SURE, OR IT'S JUST SOMETHING A PROCESS THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE TRYING TO WORK ON IN THE FUTURE, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE RELATIVELY NEW. UM, BUT IT'S PART OF YOUR, UH, FUTURE PLANS. THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE BEING THAT IT'S NOT BEING DONE NOW. THE SHORT ANSWER IS WE WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT DO WE NEED TO KNOW? UM, BECAUSE I DON'T NEED TO KNOW SPECIFICS AND BECAUSE THERE'S CONFIDENTIALITY AND WE RESPECT THAT. UM, BECAUSE WHEN THE IN THE BEGINNING, THAT'S WHY THE CHART IS SO IMPORTANT IN WORKFLOW, BECAUSE EARLY ON THERE WAS WE NEEDED SOME ORGANIZATION.

WE NEEDED SOME HABITS WE NEEDED. UM, SOME TEAM BUILDING. SO THAT'S WHY THE FLOW CHART IS SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE PART OF THE FLOW CHART IS NOW NOW THIS IS HOW WE EXPECT THE PROCESS TO HAPPEN. THE NEXT STEP IS WHAT DO WE NEED TO KNOW? AND WHY. BECAUSE WHAT WE'VE ESTABLISHED ALREADY IS HAVE THEY HAVE BIG STEP. ARE THEY WORKING WITH YOU? YES OR NO? UM, GENERALLY HOW THEY DOING? ARE THEY ON A PATH TO GET OUT? THAT'S IT JUST BUT BASIC STUFF. YES, MA'AM. BUT THE ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. WE ARE PARTNERS. UM, WE WORK WELL TOGETHER WE MEET GAVIN MILLER STAFF, SO BUT DO WE HAVE A WAYS TO GO? WE HAVE A WAYS TO GO TO GET THIS GOING IN THE WAY THAT IT NEEDS TO. SO WE'RE A WORK IN PROGRESS. SO YOU GUYS WORK TOGETHER NOW? OH, GREAT.

COMMITTEE MEMBER. UH DANS THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. UM THANK YOU AND YOUR STAFF FOR YOUR SERVICE. UM AND I'M DEALING WITH SEMANTICS HERE. I THINK WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GROUP AND GANG? YOU SAID A LOT OF PEOPLE SPLIT OFF AND START ANOTHER GANG. I MEAN, THE GANG IS A GANG, ISN'T IT? GREAT QUESTION. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS KS. THERE IS A, UH, REVISED STATUTE FOR GANGS. SO YOU HAVE TO BE LNPD GOES THROUGH A PROCESS TO VALIDATE YOU. I DON'T EXACTLY KNOW ALL THE STEPS TO DO THAT, BUT THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IS CARE. THAT'S IT. THEY LOOK, SMELL, MOVE AND ACT LIKE GANGS. SO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A GROUP AND A GANG IS JUST CHA S.

THAT'S IT AS IT GETS IS WHAT KRS KENTUCKY REVISED STATUTE AND THE REASON WHY I ASK BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT SEEMS WHITEWASHED WHEN WE SAY GROUP AND NOT GANG AND YOU KNOW AND I WORRY ABOUT THAT. ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS HOW MANY, UM FOREIGN ACTORS ARE OUT HERE. UM I MEAN, ILLEGALS DO WE HAVE OUT HERE IN GANGS RIGHT NOW, DO YOU KNOW THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. WE DON'T HAVE ANY THAT I'M AWARE OF THE ONLY ALMOST SAID INDIANA BUT UH, WE'VE HAD A FEW, UM INDIVIDUALS LIVE IN INDIANA WHO COME HERE. AND DO CRIME HERE AND THEY GO BACK. BUT AS FAR AS I'VE NOT SEEN ONE UM, ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT AS PART OF THE GANG OF GROUP AND YOUR TEAM'S GOT POWER TO REST. WE DO NOT KNOW, SIR. WE'RE ALL CIVILIANS, ALL CIVILIANS. YES SIR. SO OUR DEPARTMENT OF GROUP VIOLENCE

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INTERVENTION. OUR ROLE IS TO CONNECT THE TISSUE BETWEEN L AND PD SERVICE PROVIDERS IN THE COMMUNITY, SO WE HELP TO COORDINATE THIS EFFORT TO GET PEOPLE TO MOVE AS ONE. SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE LIKE OCEAN AND WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING YOU'RE NOT GONNA SAY YOU YOU'RE MEAN AND YOU'RE GONNA KEEP IT FROM THE COPS. I MEAN, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT MY I HAD A TOUGH ISSUE WITH THAT WHEN WE'RE NO, IT'S HAPPENING. AND WE'RE SAYING WE'RE NOT GONNA WE'RE NOT GONNA TALK TO LNPD. I MEAN, YOU GUYS AREN'T DOING THAT, ARE YOU? NO SIR. I'M I'M RETIRED FROM LNPD.

SO I YOU REPORT TO LNBD. IF YOU SEE SOMETHING, DO YOU SAY SOMETHING? OF COURSE. OK, THANK YOU. DO YOU GUYS RELOCATE? ANY FAMILIES. DO YOU DO ANY RELOCATION? IF A FAMILY IS NEEDING TO BE RELOCATED? WE WORK WITH ENTITIES WHO HELP WITH THAT, BUT OUR OFFICE DON'T DO THAT. BUT WE WORK WITH PARTNERS WHO WILL DO THAT. AND YOU DO WORK WITH L MP D AGAIN, RIGHT? WE DO? YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. 00 SEE ME. I'M SORRY, COUNCILWOMAN. UH, PERISH RIGHT. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. I APOLOGIZE. NO WORRIES. UM THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND THANK YOU FOR TALKING ABOUT THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN YOU YOUR WHAT GROUP BALANCE DOES AND INTERVENTION DOES AND WHAT OCEAN DOES AND I WANNA I WANNA BE CLEAR THAT OUT OF BOTH PRESENTATIONS. I'M HEARING THAT BALANCE REDUCTION TAKES TIME. IT TAKES INTENTIONALITY. IT TAKES COMMITMENT, AND IT TAKES PARTNERSHIPS AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S CONFUSING ABOUT HOW WE TALK ABOUT THIS. I HOPE WE ALWAYS USE PEOPLE CENTERED LANGUAGE SO THAT EVEN THE TERM ILLEGALS IS TERRIBLE. AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OCEAN SAID THAT. HEY WE WORK WITH THE POLICE IN THESE WAYS AS NEEDED. YOU'RE ALSO SAYING THE SAME THING. BUT YOU ARE HAVE ALSO IDENTIFIED THAT YOU ARE. AND WE NEED YOU TO KEEP YOU. I THINK WE NEED BOTH OF YOUR ORGANIZATIONS TO REDUCE THE BALANCE IN OUR CITY IN OUR COUNTY, AND I'M GLAD TO HEAR YOU'RE DOING IT. SO MY QUESTION I DO HAVE A QUESTION. MY QUESTION IS WHEN A LOT OF TIMES WHEN PEOPLE HAVE CALLED AND CONTACTED ME OR OTHER FOLKS THERE, THEY'RE TOLD IF THEY ARE IN A SITUATION LIKE THE CHAIRWOMAN SAID THAT THEY NEED TO BE RELOCATED. OR THEY NEED, UM, EMERGENCIES SUPPORT. UM ARE WHAT ARE YOU ALL DOING TO GET THE WORD OUT THERE BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE ARE JUST SAYING CALL GB I THAT'S WHAT THEY DO, RIGHT? AND I WANT. I WANT FOLKS TO HAVE BETTER INFORMATION THAN THAT.

AND THEN, UM, YEAH, SO LET'S JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT. I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO. BUT HOW CAN MORE HOW CAN PEOPLE KNOW HOW TO CONTACT YOU MORE? I KNOW. YOU SAID YOU GOT A WEBSITE. WILL THERE BE CERTAIN NUMBERS IF A PERSON IS IN NEED OF EMERGENCY SUPPORT OR SERVICES BECAUSE IT DOES TAKE A BUNCH. SUCCESSFUL TRANSITIONS TO LEAVE THAT LIFE BEHIND AND SOME PEOPLE MIGHT NEED TO CHANGE THEIR ENVIRONMENT . SO YEAH, SO HOW CAN WE? HOW CAN WE HELP SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT HOW TO GET THAT DONE? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. UH WHAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR, WE'VE DONE A FEW, UH, NEWS INTERVIEWS. UM, WE DID A PRESS RELEASE. UM, THE NEXT STEP IS, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS PRO PROCESS OF PURCHASING. LIKE A TABLE IN A TENT. WE WANNA START LIKE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT. YOU WANNA GO TO NATIONAL NIGHT OUT AND DO THAT? SO WE'RE CONSTANTLY LOOKING FOR WAYS TO SPREAD WHAT WE DO WE HAVE A WEBSITE. UM, AND ON OUR WEBSITE. YOU CAN, UH GO ON THERE AND IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY WHO'S AT RISK CONTACT US. WE'VE HAD A IT'S BEEN UP A LITTLE WHILE. WE'VE ONLY HAD A HANDFUL OF CONTACTS, BUT YOU CAN CONTACT US THROUGH OUR WEBSITE TO DO THAT. AND LASTLY, IF YOU WANT ME TO COME OUT TO YOUR EVENT OR YOUR COMMUNITY, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT. THANK YOU. AND I JUST HAD SOMEONE WHO REACHED OUT TO YOU.

CHRISTOPHER TEX, WHO WANTED TO TURN HIMSELF IN. HE SAID THAT A FIGHT WENT BAD AND II. I OF COURSE SAID, YOU KNOW, CALL LNPD CALL THE POLICE. I DON'T I DIDN'T KNOW THIS PERSON IN TWO EXIT NEITHER. AND WE CAUGHT. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE REACHING OUT FOR HELP, AND THAT HELP IS IN DIFFERENT LEVELS SO IT WILL BE GOOD TO HAVE MORE STREAMLINED INFORMATION ON HOW TO CONNECT THOSE PEOPLE TO THOSE SERVICES. RIGHT AND I. I HAVE SEEN THAT HAPPEN. AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE AT THE COUNCIL ARE DOING OUR PART TO SUPPORT WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

AND TO IN RESPONSE TO JUST DAWNED ON ME. I BELIEVE ALL OF YOU HAVE NEWSLETTERS. UM SO WE CAN ADD OUR, UH, INFORMATION TO A NEWSLETTER AND WE CAN DO IT THAT WAY. THANK YOU, AND WE'LL DO THAT. WE HAVE ONE GOING ON FRIDAY IF WE KNEW THAT FAST, BUT, UM, WE'D LOVE TO HAVE THAT.

YEAH THAT WE CAN DO THAT. THAT WOULD, UM, NEWSLETTERS WILL BE FINE AND A LOT OF OUR MEMBERS.

THEY HAVE COMMUNITY MEETINGS LIKE THE ONE THAT I JUST SAID THAT WOULD BE GREAT. ONE LAST

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QUESTION. UM IF I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE THAT HAS ANY MORE, ARE THERE ANY AGENCIES THAT DO GIVE EMERGENCY SUPPORT? EMERGENCY WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY EMERGENCY? JUST LIKE ANY EMERGENCY PORT? UH, SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE IF IT EMERGENCY POPPED UP AND IT WAS SOMEONE THAT WHOSE DOOR THAT YOU KNOCKED ON YOU KNOW? WE HAVE THAT ABILITY. SO MY OFFICE HAS HAD IF YOU ARE IN TROUBLE RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO SOMETHING FOR THAT. TO HELP YOU REMOVE YOU FROM THAT SITUATION. UM, IT'S RARE. WE HAPPENED ONE TIME. UM, BUT IF IT'S NOT AN EMERGENCY, WE HAVE SERVICE PROVIDER PARTNERS WHO CAN PROVIDE SERVICES TO HELP YOU DO THAT. UM, BUT THE RELOCATION IS THERE. THERE'S A THERE. GOTTA BE CAREFUL WITH THAT, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS WHO WHO DON'T WANT TO RELOCATE FAR ENOUGH. CAUSE WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS UM. RELOCATION HAS TO BE A CONSIDERABLE DISTANCE AWAY. AND TO DO THAT REQUIRES SOME SOME, UM UM, THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR. SOME THERE'S A PARTICULAR WORD. I'M LOOK, UH, COORDINATING TO DO THAT. THAT MAKES ME WHAT I JUST SAID PRIDE DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE , BUT BECAUSE IT'S A SENSITIVE TOPIC. WHAT I'M WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IF WE'RE GONNA ASSIST IN RELOCATION, WE NEED MORE SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY OR THE FAMILY TO DO THAT. OK? UM I DON'T SEE ANY MORE SPEAKERS IN THE QUEUE.

UM SO HERE IN NO QUESTION, MADAM CHAIR. OH, I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. UH, COUNCILMAN MOBILE HILL HAS JOINED US. GO AHEAD. YOU HAVE FOUR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU MAJOR BAN FOR BEING HERE. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, SIR. MR W, QUICK QUESTION ON SOMETHING THAT WE JUST MENTIONED THERE. ASSUMING THESE PROGRAMS THAT THAT'S HERE, THIS ISN'T WASN'T JUST STARTED HERE IN W JEFFERSON COUNTY, I ASSUME THERE ARE ANOTHER COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

CORRECT. THAT IS CORRECT. AS A MATTER OF FACT, I HAVE TO BEEN SUCCESSFUL, NAMELY IN BOSTON. UM PHILADELPHIA, STOCKTON, CALIFORNIA SO THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER OF CITIES THAT DEMONSTRATED A REDUCTION. IN GROUPING GANG VIOLENCE. AND SO I JUST THINKING ABOUT RELOCATION WITH THOSE OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE, UH, ENTER OR SORT IN THIS PROGRAM. NOT TO HIGHLIGHT. HEY WE'RE GONNA GO TO BOSTON AND PHILADELPHIA, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME IF THOSE CITIES HAVE HAD SUCCESS IN IN IN THIS PROGRAM, THEY MAY BE CITIES THAT WE COULD LOOK TO AND TALK TO ABOUT RELOCATION.

ALMOST HAVING SISTER CITIES IN THAT REGARD NOT TO TAKE AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHERE THEY'RE GOING . BUT WITH THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AND VICE VERSA, I DON'T KNOW. IF YOU HAVE LOOKED INTO THAT, AND SORT OF MADE SOME SENSE, UH, IF THEY'RE HAVING TO DO THE SAME THING, AT TIMES THAT MAYBE THOSE ARE SOME PARTNERS. WE COULD, UH, LOOK TO RELOCATE PEOPLE IF NECESSARY. YES, SIR. WE HAVE A PLANNED TRIP. I BELIEVE IN JUNE TO GO TO BOSTON. UM TO THERE, A PURE CITY AND WE WANNA OBSERVE.

THEY'VE GOT 25 PLUS YEARS OF SUCCESS. SO WE'RE GONNA GO TO BOSTON AND UM AND OBSERVE WHAT THEY DO, AND THERE'S OTHER CITY. PHILADELPHIA IS ANOTHER CITY THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED WHO'S DEMONSTRATED SUCCESS IN THIS APPROACH. GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS DO THE PARTNERS THAT YOU HAVE KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK. UM AND BEING THAT I HAVE NO ONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE. HARRY NUNN. OUR NEXT REGULAR SCHEDULED

[Adjournment Note: Agendas are followed at the discretion of the Chair. While an item may be listed, it does not mean all items will be heard and/or acted upon by the Committee.]

PUBLIC SAFETY MEETING WILL BE HELD WEDNESDAY. MAY THE 29TH 2004 AT 4 P.M. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME TODAY, HAVING NO FURTHER BUSINESS BEFORE US. WE STAND ADJOURNED. OK? I.

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