[41. O-066-24 AN ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING [$20,000] $30,000 FROM NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER: $10,000 EACH FROM DISTRICTS 12, [AND] 14, AND 24; TO THE LOUISVILLE METRO POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR THE PURCHASE OF EIGHT SMALL UNMANNED AIRCRAFT DEVICES AND TRAINING COSTS (AS AMENDED). 4/16/24 Labor, Economic Development, and Appropriations Committee Amended; Recommended for Approval Action Required By: October 2024 Sponsors: Cindi Fowler (D-14) Rick Blackwell (D-12), Madonna Flood (D-24)]

OF ITEM 41. IN ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING $30,000 FROM NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER $10,000 EACH FROM DISTRICTS 1214 AND 24 TO THE LOUISVILLE METRO POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR THE PURCHASE OF EIGHT SMALL UNMANNED AIRCRAFT DEVICES AND TRAINING COSTS AS AMENDED, READ IN FULL THANK YOU. MAY I HAVE A MOTION ON SECOND? SO I GUESS MY HUSBANDS SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN BATCH. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, COUNCILMAN BAKER . THIS IS AN ITEM THAT'S SPONSORED BY COUNCILWOMAN FOWLER AND COUNCIL BLACKWELL. THEY'LL SPEAK TO THIS ITEM. COUNCILMAN POWELL. UM THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. UM, THIS IS LEGISLATION TO, UM, FUND, UH, TRAINING. AND UM, DRONES, UM UNMANNED AIRCRAFT TO, UM HELP WITH THE, UM ONGOING ISSUE OF, UM A TV S. UM DIRT BIKES, UM AND OTHER, UM UNAUTHORIZED VEHICLES IN OUR PARKS, UM, FLOOD WALLS AND ON OUR PUBLIC STREETS. UM I AM, UM APPROPRIATING $10,000 AND , UM, I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.

I THINK COUNCILMAN BLACKWELL MAY WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS AS WELL. THANK YOU, UH, COUNCILOR BLACKWELL. UH, THANK YOU. UH, YEAH. WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE PROGRAM. UH THIS IS, UH, IT I BELIEVE IT IS A HUGE ISSUE AND ALL OF OUR DISTRICTS. I KNOW IT IS A HUGE ISSUE IN OUR DISTRICTS , UM AND NEVER A DAY GOES BY WHEN SOMEONE'S NOT SAYING HEY, WHAT'S THE SOLUTION TO THIS AND IT WAS, IT'S NOT AN EASY SOLUTION. IT IS, UH, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO UM TO, UH, I BELIEVE MAKE SOME HEADWAY ON THIS REALLY CRITICAL ISSUE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. IT'S MORE THAN JUST THE NUISANCE, ALTHOUGH THERE IS A NUISANCE, UM, BUT IT'S ALSO A SAFETY ISSUE AS WELL AS YOU SEE PEOPLE FLYING THROUGH. UH, YOU KNOW, ALL SORTS OF THINGS. WE WERE AT THE PARK THE OTHER DAY, AND, YOU KNOW, LIKE FLYING THROUGH FOR A SHAKESPEARE IN THE PARK AND I GO FLYING THROUGH THE ACTUAL PLAYGROUND AREA. UM AND SOMETIMES KIDS, SOMETIMES ADULTS . WHOEVER SO THIS, THIS WILL BE, UH, I THINK IT'S A HELPFUL THERE WAS SOME TALK ABOUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BEING ABLE TO FUND AND YOU KNOW, AND HOW LONG WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT. UM, YOU KNOW , AS A PROGRAM, UH, INDEFINITELY . UH, THIS IS A PILOT, HOWEVER, JUST TO SEE IF IT WORKS. AND IF IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE, UM AND SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO FUND IF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT FUNDING MECHANISM, THAT'S AWESOME. AND THEY CAN SEND US OUR $10,000 BACK. WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ACCEPT. UH, COUNCILMAN ACKERSON. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. UH, I SEE THIS AS A HUGE BENEFIT MUCH MORE THAN JUST CHASING DOWN AT THE REALITY IS WE HAVE TO EMPOWER THIS DEPARTMENT WITH 21ST CENTURY TECHNOLOGY. IN THE PAST IT WAS HELICOPTERS WOULD BE ABLE TO CHASE DOWN AND GET OVER SCENES AND HELP ASSESS SITUATIONS AND WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING. THAT'S INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE. THIS IS A COST-EFFECTIVE MEANS. UH AND IT'S ABOUT TIME THAT WE JUMPED IN THE 21ST CENTURY AND STARTED USING THESE NOT JUST FOR A TV S BUT POTENTIALLY OTHER THINGS. AND SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE PILOT PROJECT IN THE SENSE THAT IF IT DOES WORK, AND THE DATA IS THERE, THEN IT'S SOMETHING THAT IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, WE NEED TO BE FULLY FUNDING THIS PROJECT BECAUSE IT WAS TALK, I THINK OF OVER $100,000 TO GET IT FULLY FUNDED FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY. YOU KNOW, WE LOOK AT STATISTICS AND DATA. SURVEYS. YOU FIND HIM IN THE CURRENT JOURNAL, OTHER NEWS OUTLETS, YOU KNOW, UH, DISTRICT 26 SENDS OUT NEWSLETTERS RANK THE HIGHEST CONCERNS AND PRIORITIES IN PUBLIC SAFETY IS CONSISTENTLY NUMBER ONE.

CONSISTENTLY. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WANT TO FEEL SAFE. UH, TONIGHT WE'RE GONNA BE VOTING ON THE AND THE CONTRACTS FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND THEN I SEE SIGNS UP RIGHT HERE TO THESE FOLKS.

RIGHT NOW. I ACKNOWLEDGE I RESPECT THE HELL OF THEM. THEY'RE MY CONSTITUENTS. AND THIS IS THE ONE AREA THAT WE POTENTIALLY DISAGREE A LITTLE ON AND WE HAVE DIALOGUE ON THAT.

BUT WE DO DISAGREE ON THAT. AND I BUT JEFF. THANK YOU. IN RESULT IS THIS IS WHEN IT COMES TO BAD POLICING. WE WANT TO DISCOURAGE THAT AND COME DOWN THAT HARD. BUT IN ORDER TO HAVE GOOD POLICING, WE HAVE TO TAKE STEPS. WE HEARD THE MAYOR TALK TONIGHT ABOUT ABOUT ALL THE YOU KNOW EVERYTHING FROM THE GARBAGE MEN, SANITATION WORKERS. YOU WANT THE BEST. YOU'VE GOT TO PAY IT.

YOU'VE GOT TO FUND THESE THINGS IN ORDER TO HAVE A BETTER DEPARTMENT THAT SERVES EVERYONE VERSUS DEFUNDING. AND THEN WHERE ARE WE? AT, IN MY OPINION, YOU KNOW I'M LEFT WITH ROY SCHNEIDER

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SCHNEIDER FROM UH FROM JAWS. I'M REALIZING WE NEED A BIGGER BOAT. UH, SO I SUPPORT THIS TREMENDOUSLY, AND I HOPE THAT THE DATA WILL COME BACK AND FURTHER EMPOWER US TO FURTHER FUND THIS AND OTHER 21ST CENTURY INITIATIVES. THAT GET OUR POLICE. PROTECTING THE PUBLIC IN A MANNER AND AGAIN AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE LOOKING TO DISCOURAGE BAD POLICING. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR REED. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. I'M VERY HAPPY TO SUPPORT THIS. ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE YOUR JOB EASIER. I'M IN. I'M IN FAVOR OF, UH, PARTICULARLY AFTER LOSING SOME 200. HOWEVER MANY OFFICERS AFTER BEING GUTTED BY THE PRIOR ADMINISTRATION, SO I'M VERY HAPPY TO SUPPORT THIS. ARE WE AT THE POINT NOW OF ADDING, I WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE $1000 FROM DISTRICT 16. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN HUDSON. THANK YOU.

CHAIR. I COULD BE WRONG ABOUT THIS, UH AND WE FULLY ADMIT THAT I MAY BE, BUT I THOUGHT THERE WERE SEVEN DRONES IN LAST YEAR'S LNPD BUDGET AND WAS WONDERING IF ANYBODY HAD ANY INFORMATION ON WHETHER OR NOT THOSE SEVEN DRONES WERE EVER PURCHASED. AND WITH THESE SUPPLEMENT THAT FLEET OR WE BUY JUST ONE DRONE TO MAKE IT AN EVEN EIGHT I. I DON'T KNOW. YEAH, I BELIEVE COUNCILOR FOWLER. YOU MAY KNOW THE ANSWER. SO THESE ARE LONG RANGE DRONES THAT YOU KNOW, HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF A FEW MILES AS OPPOSED TO WHAT, UH, WAS PURCHASED LAST YEAR. MY UNDERSTANDING THOSE WERE, YOU KNOW, SHORT AREA KIND OF LIKE WAS USED WHEN, UM ADDED APPLEGATE. FAIR ENOUGH. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. COUNCILMAN P ARGENTI. THANK YOU.

UH THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT, UH, JUST WANTED TO READ AN EMAIL FROM THE CHIEF, UH, APPRECIATE HER WILLINGNESS TO PRIORITIZE THIS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S ON THE RECORD. SHE DID EMAIL COUNSEL AND SAID FIRST ALLOW ME TO SAY THANK YOU FOR BEING WILLING TO CONTINUED SUPPORT FOR PUBLIC SAFETY BY EMBRACING TECHNOLOGY. THIS IS THE CHIEF'S QUOTE. I'M HAPPY TO SAY AFTER SPEAKING WITH OMB. I WAS ABLE TO HAVE RESTRICTED FUNDS IN MY BUDGET RELEASED TO UNRESTRICTED SO I CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH PURCHASING THESE MUCH NEEDED DEVICES. I APPRECIATE WHEN NDF FUNDS ARE PRESENTED TO L MP D. TO HELP SUPPORT INITIATIVE OR PROJECT THE NDF FUNDS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. FOR US TO ACCEPT CAN WE CAN BE REAL LOCATED BACK TO YOUR BUDGET TO USE TO SUPPORT ANOTHER PROJECT IN OUR CITY? YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME. THANK YOU, CHIEF GWEN VILLARREAL. SO JUST WANNA THANK THE CHIEF PUBLICLY FOR SETTING THAT NOTE. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT SHE PRIORITIZES THIS TECHNOLOGY AND SHE'S MADE THE COMMITMENT TO DO THIS AND IT SOUNDS LIKE OMB IS AUTHORIZED TO DO IT IMMEDIATELY. SO I APPRECIATE UH, OMB AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE SUPPORT AS WELL. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR PARKER. DEFINITION OF UM, YES, THANK YOU . I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, UM, HOW THE SYSTEM WOULD WORK. UM IF, UM A RESIDENT OR A NEIGHBORHOOD SAW UNTOWARD.

BEHAVIOR. COULD THEY CALL 311. AND WITH THAT DRONE BE DISPATCHED THERE IMMEDIATELY. IF IT WAS WITHIN A THREE MILE RADIUS. THIS IS ONLY FOR FOUR WHEELERS. A T VS OFF ROAD VEHICLES. THIS ISN'T JUST FOR UNTOWARD. UM BEHAVIOR. SO UM, YOU WOULD. I WOULD SAY THAT THEY WOULD CONTACT THEIR UM DIVISION. YOU KNOW IF IT'S THE SIXTH OR SEVENTH, WHATEVER DIVISION THEY LIVE IN, AND, UM, YOU KNOW THEY WOULD RESPOND. ACCORDINGLY AND IT'S NOT GONNA BE LIKE AN IMMEDIATE RESPONSE. I WOULDN'T THINK BUT MORE OF A TARGETED, UM BECAUSE THEY CAN'T APPREHEND THEM, BUT THEY CAN WHEN THEY ARE ENOUGH COMPLAINTS MADE TO THE DIVISION. THEN THEY THEY WILL GO AHEAD AND GET A COMMAND STAFF GOING IN AND START. YOU KNOW THE INVESTIGATION IN TRYING TO, UM LOCATE WHERE THEY'RE AT AND USE THE DRONES TO FIND OUT WHERE THEY LIVE AT SO THAT THEY CAN.

THEN UM, A MANNED CRUISER CAN GO TO THEIR HOME. AND CONFISCATE THE VEHICLE. OKAY? THANKS FOR THAT EXPLANATION, UM D 18 WOULD LIKE TO PUT IN 1000. UH, COUNCILMAN ROY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I CAN SPEAK FROM EXPERIENCE AND IROQUOIS PARK. WE'VE HAD PACKS OF 30 MOTORCYCLES GO RIPPING THROUGH OUR PARK WE HAD AT ONE POINT WE HAD A MOTORCYCLIST WHO WAS HARASSING SOMEONE WHO TEACH TEACHING HORSEBACK RIDING LESSONS AND I CAN TELL YOU WHEN THEY WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY WHERE THIS PERSON LIVED AND WENT OVER THERE AND CONFISCATED HIS MOTORCYCLE. HE HAS NOT BEEN BACK. WE HAD STREET RACING ON THE WATER, AND WHEN WE WERE ABLE

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TO DIRECTLY INTERCEPT THOSE VEHICLES AND TAKE A FEW OF THOSE NICE, UH LITTLE YELLOW AND ORANGE CHALLENGERS, IT LARGELY STOPPED. AND THIS IS THE INTERCEPTION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE TO GET THE ATTENTION OF THESE FOLKS WHO HAVE DECIDED THAT YOU KNOW THE RULES ARE NOT FOR THEM. AND MY INITIAL REACTION WHEN THIS EMAIL CAME THROUGH WAS I PLEDGED $10,000 TOWARDS THIS AND I CONTINUE THAT I WOULD BE REALLY THRILLED IF YOU ALL DIDN'T NEED MY MONEY IN LNPD, BUT I'M SURE YOU CAN FIND A WAY TO USE IT TO. ADDITIONALLY ADD ENFORCEMENT FOR THOSE MOST BASIC TRAFFIC LAWS THAT WE KNOW WE WANT TO SEE ENFORCED. THANK YOU. AND COUNCILOR MARIE JUST TO CON YOU. ARE YOU ALREADY ON THE ORDINANCE FOR 10,000? DO YOU WANNA ADD? YOU. YOU WANT TO PUT 10,000? IS YEAH, I ON IT RIGHT NOW. I'M NOT SURE I AM. I'M NOT WELL, I WANT TO BE THE OK. GOT IT? YES, OK. UH, COUNCILMAN ARTHUR. THANK YOU. A QUESTION FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. DOES THE DESCRIPTION OF THE PROGRAM IN THE CITY AGENCY REQUEST FORM. DICTATE WHAT CAN AND CANNOT BE DONE WITH THE FUNDS BECAUSE I'M NOT SEEING ANY POLICIES AROUND UNMANNED AIRCRAFTS IN L MP D STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES OR A CODE OF ORDINANCES. UM SORRY. I WAS TRYING TO TURN IT ON. IT WAS ALREADY ON. THERE'S NO LIMIT ON HOW LNPD WOULD CHOOSE TO USE THE DRONES AS LONG AS IT'S A LEGITIMATE LAW ENFORCEMENT USE. SO JUST TO BE CLEAR BECAUSE I'M HEARING FROM ONE OF THE SPONSORS , THIS IS SPECIFICALLY FOR AN ISSUE IN CERTAIN DISTRICTS. BUT THERE IS NO LIMITATION ON THE USAGE. THEY CAN USE IT FOR WHATEVER THEY NEED FOR AS LONG AS IT'S A LEGITIMATE LAW ENFORCEMENT DUTY. YES, THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FOWLER. UH, YES. I JUST WANNA INCREASE MINE TO 15,000, PLEASE. SO ANOTHER FIVE OR YOU OK? NO, NO. UH, COUNCILOR MCCRANEY. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. I CERTAINLY WANT TO SUPPORT THIS, UH, INITIATIVE. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT. IT'S NOT AN ISSUE IN MY DISTRICT. BUT IF IT'S AN ISSUE IN ANY DISTRICT, IT'S AN ISSUE FOR ME. I. I DO, HOWEVER, WANT TO RESPECT THE CHIEF IN HER EMAIL AND STATING THAT THAT SHE HAS TALKED WITH OMB AND THAT SHE HAS FOUND A WAY TO PAY FOR THIS, AND SHE DID. THANK US AND I AND I THANK HER FOR DOING THAT. THAT WAY. OUR MONIES WON'T BE ENCUMBERED. BUT IF IN THE VENT. SOMETHING SHOULD HAPPEN TO WHERE SHE CAN'T PAY FOR IT OUT OF THE LNPD BUDGET, THEN PERHAPS THEY CAN COME BACK AND I CAN SUPPORT IT FINANCIALLY. BUT I'M GONNA RESPECT THE CHIEF AT THIS MOMENT WITH HER INITIATIVE AND LOOKING FOR THE FUNDING AND I BELIEVE SHE WAS ABLE TO FIND ALL OF THE FUNDING FOR THIS PARTICULAR INITIATIVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SIMON. I WITHDRAW MY QUESTION. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. CAN I GET AN AMENDMENT OF THE NEW TOTAL? SONY BY MY MATH IS 47,000. 47,000 COULD I GET THAT IN THE FORM OF A MOTION? UH, MOTION BY COUNCILOR FOWLER SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN BAKER. UH NOW THEY AMENDED ORDINANCE IS BEFORE US. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE REQUIRING A ROLL CALL. VOTE. MADAM CLERK. MR. PRESIDENT. I'M SORRY. I HAVE QUESTIONS. SORRY. SORRY.

COUNCILMAN SHANKLIN AND THEN COUNCILOR LUNGO-KOEHN. I JUST WANT TO KNOW THIS IS JUST FOR ONE DISTRICT LIKE ONE AREA, RIGHT? SO ALL OVER THE CITY. 11 IN EACH DIVISION OF THEM. YES IT IT'S FOR ALL EIGHT DIVISIONS AND THERE WILL BE FOUR. OFFICERS FROM EACH DIVISION TRAINED UM, SO THERE'LL BE A TOTAL OF 32 TRAINED OFFICERS AND A TOTAL OF EIGHT DRONES, ONE FOR EACH DIVISION. OK SO IT IT'S COUNTYWIDE CITYWIDE, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO HEAD THIS OFF. BECAUSE I THINK THAT MOST AREAS ARE HAVING THIS ISSUE. I'M GLAD TO HEAR COUNCILWOMAN MCCRANEY IS NOT BUT MOST OTHER PEOPLE ARE ESPECIALLY IN THE RURAL AREAS, RIGHT? I KNOW I HAVE ISSUES IN MY DISTRICT WITH THE TEENAGERS ON THESE LITTLE DIRT BIKES ALL OVER THEM, UH, I WANT TO ADD 1000 FROM DISTRICT TWO. OK? BECAUSE WE COUNCILMAN MCCRANIE. DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK AFTER THE AMENDMENTS FINISHED OR YOU? YOU WANNA SPEAK NOW? OK, COUNCILOR MRE. YES AND AS I STATED EARLIER , IF IT'S AN ISSUE IN THIS COMMUNITY, IT'S AN ISSUE FOR ME. THAT IS FOR SURE. BUT I WANT TO KNOW THAT IF WE WERE TO PUT MONEY IN IT IF THE OMB, IN FACT, DID NOT APPROVE THE MONEYS FOR

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THE DRONES. THEN WHEN THEY DO INDEED SAY THAT THEY HAVE THE MONEY FOR THE DRONES. THE MONIES THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN FROM OUR NDF. DO THEY COME BACK TO US? OR WILL THOSE FUNDS BE USED FOR ADDITIONAL DRONES OR FOR SOMETHING ELSE? MISS LINES. WOULD YOU LIKE TO WEIGH IN ON THAT? THE EMAIL THAT COUNCIL MAYOR PINI READ INTO THE RECORD WAS THE FIRST AWARENESS I HAD OF AN O AND B STATEMENT ON THIS. SO I DON'T I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD BE HANDLED. THAT. EXCUSE ME. OK? UH, COUNCILMAN BAKER. YOU HAD A QUESTION, OK, OK, OK, ALL RIGHT. SO THE FUNDS WILL BE TIED TO THE ORDINANCE, I THINK IS THE ANSWER. SO THEY CAN'T JUST BE REDEPLOYED FOR ANYTHING ELSE. THE PUBLIC. IS THE REIMBURSEMENT PIECE. WE DON'T KNOW. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING? ANSWERS CORRECT. YEAH. SO THEY CANNOT BE USED FOR A DIFFERENT PURPOSE. AND THAT'S A DIFFERENT QUESTION THAN IF THE MONEY IS THERE, ACCORDING TO WHAT WAS READ IN THE RECORD. THE MONIES THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN THERE IF THEY CANNOT BE USED FOR ANYTHING ELSE. WOULD THEY BE REFUNDED BACK TO THE DEPARTMENTS THEY GAVE OR THE, UM DISTRICTS THEY GAVE COUNCILOR M YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN I BELIEVE THIS COUNCIL IN THE PAST HAS ACTUALLY WRITTEN AN ORDINANCE. UH TO GET THE MONEY BACK IF IT WASN'T AUTOMATICALLY, SO I THINK THAT'S A BUDGETARY DECISION. AND IF SOMEBODY DIDN'T THERE'S NOT ANOTHER USE FOR IT. THEY IT'S UP TO THIS BODY TO FILE AN ORDINANCE TO PROBABLY CALL THE MONEY BACK UNLESS THERE'S AN AGREEMENT IN THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE TO DO THAT, SO YOU CAN PUT IT IN THERE NOW, BY AMENDMENT, OR YOU COULD WHEN THEY GET MONEY YOU COULD SAY HEY, I'M GONNA FILE AN ORDINANCE AND SEND THE MONEY BACK. AND THAT'S HAPPENED IN THE PAST. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN FOWLER. YES SO I CAN'T SPEAK FOR ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES. BUT I WANT L MP D TO USE MY $15,000 FOR THIS PROGRAM AND USE ANYTHING THAT THEY FOUND FOR MAYBE SOME OTHER ENFORCEMENT WITHIN OUR CITY. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN BLACKWELL. UH, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY I THINK, UM MOST OF US WHEN WE HAVE NDFS THAT COME THROUGH AND, UH AND FOR WHATEVER REASON, THE AGENCY I'M NOT THINKING THAT JUST LNPD, BUT ANY OF THEM, UM, FOR WHATEVER REASON THE AGENCY DECIDES TO GET A DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCE OR WHATEVER THEY GENERALLY COME BACK TO US AND SAY, HEY, I WOULD LIKE TO FUND THIS ALL THE SPONSORS HAVE TO AGREE TO THAT FOR THEM TO MOVE THE MONIES. AND IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT, THEN IT WOULD COME BACK TO YOU. I THINK I THINK ABOUT RURAL AND WE COME BACK TO US IF EVERYONE DIDN'T AGREE TO IT, SO THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FLOOD MR PRESIDENT. MY COMMENTS WERE ALONG THE LINE OF, UH, DR BLACKWELL'S BECAUSE IN THE PAST, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENED.

THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COULD I GET AN AMENDMENT A MOTION FOR THE ADDING THE ADDITIONAL 1000 THE MOTION BY COUNCILOR SIMON SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN UH BAKER.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY? AYE I AND HE OPPOSED THE AYES HAVE IT. THE NEW TOTAL IS 48,000. NOW THE AMENDED ORDINANCES BEFORE US. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE REQUIRING A ROLL CALL VOTE. MADAM CLERK. PLEASE OPEN THE VOTING.

MR. PRESIDENT YOU HAVE 22. YES VOTES, TWO NO VOTES AND ONE NOT VOTING ONE MOMENT. LET ME SEE.

IT'S NOT I'M SORRY. AND ONE NON VOTE. UM I'M SORRY. AND ONE ABSTENTION. SORRY. AND THAT'S COUNCIL WOMAN MCCRANEY THAT WOULD STATE HER EXTENSION. BECAUSE I'M YOU STATE YOUR ABSTENTION. YES I'M ABSTAINING FOR BUDGETARY REASONS AND BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A SOLID ANSWER ON WHERE THE MONIES WOULD GO. UH I JUST WANT TO REMAIN NEUTRAL IN THAT MANNER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, UH, THE ORDINANCE IS ADOPTED. MADAM CLERK ARE READING OF ITEM 42. IN

[42. O-067-24 AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE ZONING OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 609 OUTER LOOP CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 1.16 ACRES AND BEING IN LOUISVILLE METRO (CASE NO. 21ZONE0094). (AS AMENDED) 4/16/24 Planning and Zoning Committee Amended: Recommended for Approval Action Required By: June 7, 2024 Sponsors: Madonna Flood (D-24) ]

ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE ZONING OF PROPERLY LOCATED AT 609 OUTER LOOP CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 1.16 ACRES AND BEING LOUIS METRO CASE NUMBER 21 ZONE 0094 AS AMENDED, READ IN FULL MOTION

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MOTION BY COUNCILOR ARTHUR SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN PARKER. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, COUNCILMAN FLOOD THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO RESUME THE SITE TO SEE TWO IN ORDER TO CONDUCT AUTO SALES ON THE SITE, A SALES OFFICE SERVICE GARAGE AND STORAGE BUILDING ARE PROPOSED ON THE SITE. THIS PLACE BASES AN OUTDOOR STORAGE BEHIND THE STRUCTURES. THE SITE IS CURRENTLY UNDER ENFORCEMENT FOR PARKING HEAVY TRUCKS AND INOPERABLE VEHICLES. VEHICLES ON THE SITE, THE CA THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BINDING ELEMENT NUMBER EIGHT STATES THAT NO INOPERABLE VEHICLES SHALL BE STORED ON THE SITE. FINDING ELEMENT NUMBER NINE STATES THAT NO HEAVY TRUCKS SHALL BE STORED ON THE SITE. TRUCK SHALL BE PARKED OVERNIGHT AND NO ISLAND OF TRUCKS WILL TAKE PLACE WITHIN 200 FT OF A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. WE ALSO DURING THE COMMITTEE, WE ADDED THE STANDARD BINDING ELEMENT THAT IF THERE WAS A CHANGE IN USE, CHANGE IN DEVELOPMENT PLAN A CHANGE IN BINDING ELEMENT, ET CETERA, THAT IT WOULD COME BACK BEFORE THE METRO COUNCIL AND THIS IS IN COUNCILMAN SS DISTRICT HE MAY WISH TO ADDRESS, US COUNCILOR SIMON WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE BINDING ELEMENTS. UM, SO WE ASKED TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE REQUIRING A ROLL CALL VOTE. MADAM CLERK. PLEASE OPEN THE VOTING. MR PRESIDENT. YOU HAVE 25? YES VOTES. THANK YOU. THE ORDINANCE IS ADOPTED. UH, MADAM CLERK, A READING OF ITEM 43. IN ORDER TO RELATE INTO THE ZONING OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 11801 EAST ORIEL ROAD CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 31,297 ACRES AND BEING LITTLE MERIC CASE NUMBER 23 ZONE 0144 AS AMENDED, WRITTEN IN FULL MOTION MOTION BY COUNCILMAN ARTHUR SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN SIM. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? UH, COUNCILOR ONE, FLO. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT.

THE SITE IS LOCATED AT 11,801 EAST ORRELL ROAD CONTAINING 31 ACRE ACRES. THE VACANT LOT WILL BE PORTIONED INTO TWO SECTIONS. THE FIRST IS A THREE ACRE 11 LOT . SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION FRONTING FLOWER VALE LANE. THE OTHER IS A 312 UNIT. MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT ON 28 ACRES. THERE WILL BE 12 THREES STORY. 24 UNIT APARTMENTS WILL BE CONSTRUCTED ALONG WITH THE CLUBHOUSE AT THE COMMITTEE. BINDING ELEMENTS WERE ADDED, AND SOME WERE CHANGED. ONE OF THE BINDING ELEMENTS IS THE TIN TOWN HOUSES TO BE BUILT IN ADDITION TO THE 11 LOTS FOR SINGLE FAMILY AND 312 MULTIFAMILY PROPERTY, THE MULTIFAMILY UNIT SHALL BE RENTED AT A RATE WHICH IS AFFORDABLE TO FAMILIES EARNING 60% OF MEETING INCOME OR UNDER, UM MR PRESIDENT . IF YOU WILL ALLOW ME THERE WERE SOME SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THE BITING ELEMENTS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IT BE MAKE READ PUBLICLY, NOT JUST AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL, BUT AT THIS LEVEL, SO THERE'S AN UNDERSTANDING OF THESE ELEMENTS. BINDING ELEMENT NUMBER, 17 WAS CHANGED AND READS IT WILL NOW READ AS FARS. THE SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURES ALONG FLOWER LANE SHALL FACE FLOWER LANE FACADES FACING FLOWER VILLE LANE SHALL BE 100% BRICK STONE OR MANUFACTURED STONE, THE DEVELOPER OF THE PROPERTY MAY REQUEST. BUILDING PERMITS FOR ALL MULTIFAMILY AND CLUBHOUSE STRUCTURES, BUT BUT MAY NOT OBTAIN A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR A MULTIFAMILY OR CLUBHOUSE STRUCTURE UNTIL THE DEVELOPER OF THE PROPERTY HAS OBTAINED CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCIES FOR SIX SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURES ALONG FLOWER VILLE LANE IN PHASE ONE DEVELOPER PROPERTY OWNER MAY OBTAIN UP TO SIX MULTIFAMILY OR CLUBHOUSE STRUCTURE, CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY AND PHASE ONE UPON THE UPON THE UPON OBTAINING THE REMAINING FIVE CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCIES FOR SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURES ALONG FLOWER VALE LANE, THE DEVELOPER PROPERTY OWNER MAY OBTAIN THE REMAINING CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCIES FOR MULTIFAMILY OR CLUBHOUSE ON PHASE TWO. THE MULTI THE MULTI BUILDING PERMITS THE CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY FOR TOWNHOUSES REQUIRED BY BINDING ELEMENT NUMBER 20, WHICH WILL BE READ BELOW, MAYBE SAW AT ANY TIME AND SHALL NOT IMPACT THE TIMING FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY OR OTHER APARTMENTS. STYLE MULTIFAMILY STRUCTURES. FINDING NAIL A NUMBER 20 THAT WAS ADDED SAYS PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF BUILDING PERMITS. DEVELOPER OF PROPERTY OWNER SHALL SUBMIT A REVISED DEVELOPMENT DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN SUBSTANTIALLY SUB SIMILAR TO EXHIBIT A, WHICH REFLECTS THE CREATION OF 10 ADDITIONAL TOWNHOUSE UNITS DIVIDED INTO TWO BUILDINGS JUST NORTH OF THE PROPOSED ROAD. B THESE TOWNHOUSES TOWN HOMES UNITS SHALL NOT BE IN SHALL BE INCLUDED IN THE DEVELOPMENT, PROPERTY OWNERS AFFORDABLE REGIME. THIS RDDP SHALL BE APPROVED BY THE OFFICE OF PLANNING STAFF. AS LONG AS NO WAIVERS OR VARIANCES ARE NEEDED. THE RDDP SHALL NOT BE INTERPRETED AS TRIGGERING AUTOMATIC REVIEW PROVIDING OUT NUMBER 21, WHICH WE ADDED AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL UNLESS THE APPLICANT OWNER DEVELOPER PROPOSES ADDITIONAL CHANGES, WHICH WOULD INDEPENDENTLY TRIGGER SUCH A REVIEW. THIS ELEMENT SHALL NOT BE INTERPRETED AS CREATING NON CONFORMING RIGHTS OR ANY OTHER CLAIM UNDER WHICH THE APPLICANT OWNER DEVELOPER MAY ATTEMPT TO CONSTRUCT OR OPERATE A PROJECT WITH WHICH DOES NOT CONFORM TO

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THESE LIMITATIONS, FINDING ELEMENT NUMBER 21 THAT WE ADDED IS READS ANY SIGNIFICANT INCREASES TO THE STRUCTURE, FOR EXAMPLE, INCREASES IN BUILDING HEIGHT NUMBER OF UNITS, NUMBER OF BUILDINGS, ANY INCREASE IN DENSITY ON THE PROPERTY ANY CHANGES IN USE ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR SUBCOMITTEE THEREOF AND OR AMENDMENTS TO THE B ELEMENTS OTHER THAN SMALL, I THE ADDITION OF NEW BINDING ELEMENTS. DOUBLE I CHANGES TO BINDING ELEMENTS THAT MERELY UPDATE THE PUBLIC HEARING DATE. TRIPLE DOUBLE. I UPDATING A PREVIOUS VERSION OF THIS BINDING ELEMENT TO REFLECT THE CURRENT LANGUAGE SHALL BE REVIEWED BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WITH FINAL ACTION TO BE DETERMINED BY THE METRO COUNCIL, AND ALL THOSE WERE ADDED AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL, AND THIS IS IN COUNCILWOMAN FOWLER'S DISTRICT. SHE MAY WISH TO ADDRESS US. COUNCILMAN FELLER AND THANK YOU, UM UH, MR PRESIDENT. SO, UM THIS HAS BEEN ONE OF THE MOST CONTROVERSIAL DEVELOPMENTS, UM IN ALL MY YEARS ON THE COUNCIL, UM, IT I HAVE RECEIVED OVER 70 EMAILS, PHONE CALLS TEXTS JUST IN THE GROCERY STORE. UH, WHEREVER UM, WITH VERY CONCERNED CITIZENS, UM ABOUT MANY THINGS TRAFFIC. UM FLOWER VALE DIXIE HIGHWAY IS, UM YOU KNOW, ALWAYS A PROBLEM.

THERE'S BEEN MANY ACCIDENTS, UH, RIGHT THERE. AND UM YOU KNOW THE SCHOOLS ARE, YOU KNOW, OVERCROWDED AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WAS CONCERNED ABOUT JUST LACK OF FOOD IN OUR GROCERY STORES, WHICH IS REAL. UM BUT YOU KNOW THEY THEY WERE ABLE TO GET 600 SIGNATURES ON A NIGHT TIME PETITION TO HAVE THIS HELD UM, OUT IN IN THE AREA SO THAT YOU KNOW MORE PEOPLE COULD COME UM, UNFORTUNATELY, THE VENUE THEY SECURED ONLY HELD 100 A 25 AND THERE WERE OVER 100. PEOPLE TURNED AWAY AT THE DOOR. SO, UM, YOU KNOW IT. IT'S MANY. MANY CONSTITUENTS DID NOT, UM, WERE NOT ABLE TO VOICE THEIR CONCERNS. UM THAT BEING SAID THE DEVELOPER, UH, MET WITH THE NEIGHBORS. FOUR DIFFERENT TIMES, UM, WAS ALWAYS WILLING TO COME TO THE TABLE TO TRY TO WORK SOMETHING OUT. UM FROM THE BEGINNING, I ASKED, UM, THE DEVELOPER TO DO SOME SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT COULD BE SOLD ALONG FLOWER VILLE. AND, UM, HE AGREED TO DO THAT, UM IN THE BEGINNING, HAD ASKED FOR TOWN HOMES AS WELL. SO SOME COMPONENT JUST TO HAVE, UM DIFFERENT TYPE OF HOUSING FOR PEOPLE WITH FAMILIES. AND UM I JUST THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE WORKING TOWARDS AS A CITY. UM BUT I STILL HAVE TO BE A NO VOTE. BECAUSE MAC CONSTITUENTS HAVE OVERWHELMINGLY UM, ASKED ME TO DO WHAT I CAN AND I. I KNOW THAT, UM WE NEED THE HOUSING II. I REALIZED THAT UM BUT I'M GONNA HAVE TO BE A NO VOTE ON THIS TONIGHT. I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. UM THERE. THERE WAS NO WAY FOR THEM TO DO A SIDEWALK TO DIXIE HIGHWAY. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THAT CAN BE ADDED. UM AS A POSSIBLE BINDING ELEMENT.

UM JUST TO. I JUST THINK THAT IT'S SO CLOSE TO DIXIE HIGHWAY. IT'S NOT EVEN AN EIGHTH, PROBABLY 1/16 OF A MILE. FROM DIXIE AND I. I FEEL LIKE THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME WAY TO SAFELY GET TO THE HIGHWAY WITHOUT WORK. WALKING ON THE SHOULDER OF THE FLOWER VILLE.

SINCE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, UM SO I'M LOOKING AT THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE BUSINESS IS THERE RIGHT AT THE CORNER OF DIXIE AND FLOWER. YEAH, IT'S THE DAIRY QUEEN DAIRY QUEEN. UM SO, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S YOU KNOW, AN INDEPENDENT BUSINESS AND THAT IT'S ALWAYS COMPLICATED WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO AN APPLICANT TO BUILD ON ANOTHER. PRIVATE LOT. IF IT WAS A METRO LOT OR SOMETHING, THERE MIGHT BE SOME POTENTIAL. UM, BUT ESPECIALLY ALSO, THAT'S A BUNNY ELEMENT THAT WOULD REQUIRE FINANCIAL EXPENDITURE. SO IT WOULD BE THE APPLICANTS APPROVAL. UM AND SO IT'S REALLY NOT SOMETHING WE CAN DO. UH RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW. OK, WELL AND AGAIN BECAUSE IT'S A PRIVATE PROPERTY. I THINK IT'S RARE THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET THOSE APPROVED BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THAT THE DAIRY QUEEN OWNER WOULD HAVE TO AGREE TO IT. UM, AND THAT YOU KNOW, IS ALLOWING CONSTRUCTION FROM ANOTHER SIDE ON THEIR PROPERTY LIABILITY ISSUES

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CONCERNED. WE FREQUENTLY GET THOSE SORT OF REJECTED, BUT IS THERE A RIGHT OF WAY LONG FIRE BELL TO DIXIE? I CAN'T TELL FROM THE MAP THAT I'M CURRENTLY HAVE, UM I I'M REASONABLY CONFIDENT.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT PUBLIC WORKS WOULD HAVE SOUGHT AT SOME POINT IF THEY THOUGHT THERE WAS A GOOD REASON OF POSSIBILITY, BUT I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFICS. I KNOW THAT THERE, THERE'S ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE STREET THAT'S BEING PROPOSED, SO I'LL WORK REALLY HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THAT HAPPENS THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO GET A SIDEWALK, UM ON THAT SIDE, AT LEAST. OK? UM, ANYWAY. UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN BAKER. UH THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT, AND, UH, I HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF RESPECT FOR YOU, UH, COUNCILMAN FOWLER. BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING OFF A SEPARATE FINDINGS OF FACT. IN THIS DEVELOPMENT, THE DEVELOPER HAS BEEN MORE THAN ADVANTAGEOUS BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT W AND THE, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING, UM, AND HAS REDUCED THE NUMBER OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS WELL WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT. UM AND YOU KNOW, OUR MARRIAGE JUST CAME AND GAVE OUR BUDGET ADDRESS AND TALKING ABOUT WE HAVE AN ADVANTAGEOUS PLAN OF ADDRESSING THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS THAT'S GOING ON IN OUR CITY, AND WE HAVE TO BE VERY CONSCIOUS OF MAKING SURE THAT WE IN EVERY PART IN EVERY DISTRICT IN OUR CITY THAT WE ARE MAKING A CONCERTED EFFORT OF MAKING ADDRESSING THE CONCERNS. I THINK THIS DEVELOPMENT UH UM HAS BEEN RE THAN MOR THAN MEETS THE MARK. I THINK THAT HE'S BEEN THE VELOPER HAS BEEN MORE THAN HA CHAES. COMMICATING WIT THE CONCERNS, I THINK YOU YOU MENTIONEDOUR ME. ANDOU KN T PIN AON USTINGHATHEY ARE DOING EIROB.O I ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES FOR A YES VOTE ON THIS. UM AND THAT THIS IS THE FIRST OF MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE ADDRESSING THIS AFFORDABLE COST AND CRISIS IN OUR CITY. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. MR PRESIDENT. UH, I JUST WANT TO SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS ABOUT OUT OF THE PLANNING COMMITTEE MEETING. UM AND SOME THINGS RELATED TO THE AD HOC COMMITTEE. UH, THAT THAT I'M CHAIRING. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. TRYING TO ENCOURAGE IS MORE DENSITY ALONG OUR COMMERCIAL QUARTERS. AND THIS PROJECT IS VERY PUSHES UP RIGHT UP AGAINST DIXIE HIGHWAY AND SO IT IT DOES THAT AND THEN ANOTHER THING I WANTED TO SAY IS THERE'S A VERY BROAD ANTI APARTMENT MOVEMENT HAPPENING IN OUR CITY. AND SO ONE THING I DO WANT TO SAY IS, I WANT TO SAY VERY LOUDLY FOR EVERYONE TO HEAR. WE ARE ENCOURAGING DEVELOPERS TO BRING DEVELOPMENTS TO US ON METRO COUNCIL THAT HAVE MULTIPLE HOUSING TYPES. WITHIN A DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT, THE MORE HOUSING TYPES THAT YOU CAN BRING TO US WHETHER IT BE, YOU KNOW, MIDDLE HOUSING, SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING, GARDEN STYLE APARTMENTS , DUPLEXES, THE MORE DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPES, THE BETTER, BUT I WANT TO SAY THAT IN THE CONTEXT OF WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ANTI APARTMENT ON THIS COUNCIL, OR AT LEAST I'M NOT GOING TO BE ANTI APARTMENT ON THIS COUNCIL. WE CANNOT DO. WE CANNOT MEET THE NEED OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN OUR CITY WITHOUT BUILDING SOME APARTMENTS. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THOSE THOSE TWO THINGS, UH, ALONG WITH THE FACT THAT THIS IS BUILDING DENSITY ALONG COMMERCIAL QUARTER WHERE THERE'S A DARK LINE, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF BUSINESSES THAT CAN SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA, AND I THINK ALL OF THOSE ARE POSITIVE. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THOSE THINGS AND I'LL BE A YES VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR OWEN, COUNCILOR HAWKINS. UM AND I GUESS IT'S PROBABLY WOULD BE YOU, CINDY. UM FOR ME. DIVERSE HOUSING IS ABOUT UM OWNERSHIP IS IMPORTANT. SO, UM THE, UM YOU KNOW, I KNOW. COUNCILMAN OWEN IS A DEVELOPMENT GUY. UM I RESPECT THAT WHOLEHEARTEDLY, BUT, UM, FOR, UM THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THING. THE GOAL WOULD BE HOMEOWNERSHIP.

THE DEPARTMENT IS JUST, UM LET IN PEOPLE'S POCKETS. YOU KNOW, AS AS AS MY OPINION, BUT AS FAR AS, UH YOU KNOW, WE WANNA GET PEOPLE TO SUSTAINABILITY, GENERATIONAL WEALTH. YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S MY OPINION. UM BUT AS FAR AS THE APARTMENTS I AM COMMUNITY FIRST WHOLEHEARTEDLY.

WHAT THE COMMUNITY, UM WOULD LIKE TO SEE BUT ON THE FLIP SIDE, I HEARD SOMETHING THAT, UM SPOKE A LITTLE, UH, VOLUME TO ME AND YOU DON'T SEE QUITE OFTEN, AND THAT IS DEVELOPERS COMING IN AND WORKING. WITH THE COUNCIL PERSON. UM YOU SAID THAT THEY MET FOUR TIMES. UM YOU SAID THAT THEY WERE WORKABLE. UM AND THAT RIGHT? THERE IS RAW. SO IT IT IT FOR ME. WE DO NEED HOUSING, BUT

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TO FIND DEVELOPERS LIKE THAT ARE DEVELOPERS THAT I WOULD DEFINITELY WANT TO WORK WITH. SO I WOULD PROBABLY BE A YES FOR THIS. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN HAWKINS. COUNCILMAN BLACKWELL JUST WANTED TO, UH, SAY THAT. I APPRECIATE. UH UH. COUNCILMAN LAUREN, UH, TALKING ABOUT THE DIVERSITY ON THAT PARTICULAR LOT , BECAUSE OFTENTIMES WHAT WE GET IS, UH, WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE, UH, SITUATIONS BECAUSE WE HAVE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ALL AROUND. PRECISELY THAT IS THAT'S THAT'S THE ISSUE. IT CHANGE. IT DOES CHANGE. UM I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE SHOULDN'T HAVE APARTMENTS. BUT IT DOES CHANGE THE NATURE OF THE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, SO I THINK WE HAD TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AND SO WHERE WE CAN, AND I ALWAYS SAY THAT TO DEVELOPERS IF THEY ARE TALKING TO ME BEFORE THEY'VE EVER BEFORE THEY'VE EVER PUT A PLAN IN, UH, WHERE WE CAN HAVE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, SO I APPLAUD WHAT WE HAVE HERE. YOU KNOW THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. WE HAVE TOWNHOUSES. I WOULD PREFER THAT YOU CONDOS THAT CAN BE PURCHASED. YOU KNOW, WE DID THAT WHEN WE DID THESE, UH UM, THE HOPE SIX. YOU KNOW, WE LOOKED AT AND SAID THERE'S NOT A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE AN APARTMENT APARTMENT MANAGER APARTMENT. YOU NEED TO HAVE LOTS OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING. SO WHILE WE DO THAT, WITH HUGE DOLLARS IN FEDERAL FUNDS AND THEN NOT ASK OUR DEVELOPERS TO DO THAT, AS WE'RE DEVELOPING ALONG, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT ONE THAT THAT SHOULD BE THE IN MY MIND. IT OUGHT TO BE THE IDEA. I THINK THIS WORKED PRETTY WELL IN THOSE SITUATIONS, AND IT SHOULD BE. THE IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. FROM OUR DEVELOPERS ARE AS WELL. MOVING FORWARD. I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THEY WORKED WORKED IT OUT TO HAVE A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES IN THE SAME PLACE. THANK YOU. CA BLACKWELL. COUNCILMAN FOWLER.

YES UH, THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. SO YOU KNOW, I DO NOT WANT TO NEGATE THE EFFORT THAT THE DEVELOPER UM CAME TO THE TABLE. UM MANY TIMES AND YOU KNOW WAS VERY I WAS VERY HAPPY, UM, THAT HE ADDED THE HOUSING UM AT AT THE 11TH HOUR, HE ADDED, UM, A T TOWN HOMES AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I REALLY WANTED THIS TO BE A MODEL GOING FORWARD FOR OUR CITY. I KNEW THAT I WOULD NOT HAVE THE VOTES AND I EXPLAINED THAT TO MY CONSTITUENTS THAT YOU KNOW BECAUSE OF THE NEED. UM, THAT IT. THIS WAS WHAT IT WAS GONNA BE. AND THERE WAS, UM YOU KNOW, THE FINDINGS OF FACTS ARE JUST NOT THERE. SO UM, BUT THAT BEING SAID, UM, I, I STILL WANT MY CONSTITUENTS TO KNOW THAT, UH, I HEAR THEM LOUD AND CLEAR. AND UM AND I EXPLAINED TO, UM, A GROUP JUST, UM TUESDAY NIGHT THAT OK, THE THEY ASKED ME WHY I? I VOTED, UM NO AFTER ASKING FOR THE TOWN HOMES, AND I SAID I KNEW THAT I DIDN'T HAVE THE VOTES. BUT I ALSO WANTED THIS TO BE SELFISHLY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT AS A COUNCIL IN DEMAND FROM OUR DEVELOPERS AS WE GO FORWARD, BECAUSE I JUST THINK THAT THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE A CHOICE OF, UM HOUSING AND , UM, WITH THIS ONE, YOU KNOW THERE, THE AFFORDABLE THAT NONE OF THE AFFORDABLE WAS REDUCED. IT WAS ACTUALLY INCREASED BECAUSE THE TOWN HOMES ARE GOING TO BE AFFORDABLE AS JUST LIKE THE, UM, APARTMENTS. BUT THE, UM WE'RE HOPING THAT THE HOUSING LONG FIRE WILL BE, UM KENTUCKY HOUSING, YOU KNOW, THEY BE ABLE TO GET LOANS TO, UM YOU KNOW, LOW LOW INTEREST LOANS FOR THAT, SO BUT ANYWAY, UM, LIKE I SAID, THIS HAS BEEN A TOUGH ONE. AND UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO EASY ANSWERS, AND I UNDERSTAND. UM EVERYBODY'S SUPPORT FOR IT. UM I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS MY POSITION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN HAWKINS. I MEANT TO LEAVE THAT, UM, I LEFT OUT ONE THING. UM AND THIS IS PROBABLY BEFORE MY TIME, SO MAYBE SOMEBODY CAN GIVE ME AN ANSWER. OR MAYBE NOT, UM AND, UH, COUNCILMAN OR MAYBE YOU CAN ON MY NOTE BEFORE I GOT ON COUNCIL. UM AND MAYBE THIS WAS IN THE OLD ADMINISTRATION, THEY KNOCKED DOWN SEVERAL PROJECTS. UM HOUSING PROJECTS AND IT'S CONCERNING TO ME, YOU KNOCK DOWN ALL THESE HOUSING PROJECTS, UM, THINKING THAT YOU'RE GONNA DECREASE CRIME? UM, BUT THEN YOU BUILD ALL THESE APARTMENTS. THAT JUST CAN SOMEBODY GIVE ME AN ANSWER ON WHY? YOU KNOW, II? I MEAN, MAYBE IT'S A LATER QUESTION, BUT I MEAN, IT'S JUST

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YOU YOU KNOCK DOWN ALL THE PROJECTS TO JUST BUILD JUST APARTMENTS? YEAH. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, HEY. CAN'T COUNCILOR BAKER UH, THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. UM I'M THE, UH, THE CHAIR OF THE, UH THE, UH LABOR AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND AND THIS IS MORE NOT JUST FOR DIRECTED AT YOU AT ALL. COUNCILWOMAN UH, FILE. UH, IT'S REALLY DIRECTED TO ALL OF US. YOU KNOW, I HAVE A , UH I REPRESENT OLD LOUISVILLE, WHICH HAS MIXED HOUSING MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND ON ONE STREET, YOU'LL HAVE A AN APARTMENT. YOU'LL HAVE A MILLIONAIRE HOUSE AND YOU'LL HAVE A YOUNG FAMILY LIKE MINE. UH, YOU'LL HAVE ANOTHER APARTMENT WITH COLLEGE KIDS. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT HOUSING IN A DIFFERENT WAY. IF WE'RE GONNA ADDRESS THIS, THIS THIS CRISIS.

WE ARE AN ECOSYSTEM AND SOMETIMES SOME OF OUR RHETORIC DEFINITELY SOUNDS LIKE NIMBYISM.

NOT IN MY BACKYARD AND I, AND THIS IS MIGHT BE EVEN MORE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING AT HOME.

IF WE ARE GOING TO ADDRESS THIS, YOU CANNOT DUMP IT ALL IN ONE AREA. IT CAN ALL GO IN THE WEST END CAN'T GO OUT IN THE SOUTH END. JUST BECAUSE WE TALK ABOUT APARTMENTS DO NOT ASSOCIATE APARTMENTS WITH POOR PEOPLE. LIKE LET'S CALL. LET'S TALK. LET'S TALK REAL ABOUT THIS, AND SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE A COUNCIL LEVEL AND IN THE COMMUNITY THAT THERE'S AN UNDERCURRENT OF WHEN WE TALK ABOUT APARTMENTS OR WE TALK ABOUT A CERTAIN TYPE OF HOUSING WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.

I'M FRANKLY PEOPLE WHO LOOK LIKE PHILIP BAKER. AND I TAKE OFFENSE TO THAT. AND I THINK THAT WE AS WE START HAVING THESE HOUSING DISCUSSIONS IN ALL OF OUR PARTS THAT WE NEED TO BE VERY MINDFUL ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE A THRIVING ECOSYSTEM IN EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD. WE SHOULD HAVE HUGE DEVELOPMENTS. WE SHOULD HAVE COTTAGES. WE SHOULD HAVE EVERY TYPE OF HOUSE BECAUSE THAT'S WHO WE ARE. WE ARE LOUISVILLE AND WE NEED TO IN EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD IN EVERY DISTRICT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR KIDS OUR CHILDREN, OUR COMMUNITY HAS A PLACE FOR THEM, NO MATTER WHAT INCOME THEY HAVE NO MATTER WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE, OR WHO THEY LOVE. AND SO I JUST I KNOW THIS AGAIN. IT'S NOT DIRECTED TO COUNCILMAN FOWLER. THESE DISCUSSIONS ARE THE REAL DISCUSSIONS THAT WE ALL NEED TO HAVE. BUT GUYS TIME TO CHANGE IT. WE NEED TO EMBRACE THIS, AND WE CANNOT EVERY TIME. THAT A APARTMENT DIRK BECOMES CODED LANGUAGE AND EVERYONE'S DISTRICT OR EVERYONE'S NEIGHBORHOOD. AND SO THANK YOU ALL. IT'S A PLEASURE TO SERVE, BUT LET'S START CHANGING THE CORNER FOR OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE DEPENDING ON US AND MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE WHO NEED TO BE IN HOMES OR TO HAVE SHELTER HAVE A PLACE THAT THEY CAN CALL HOME AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO MOVE ACROSS TOWN JUST TO FIND A PLACE FOR THEM.

THANK YOU. SORRY COUNCILMAN PERISH. RIGHT. THANK YOU. II I WANNA SECOND WHAT I'VE BEEN HEARING HERE AND JUST SAY THAT THE ISSUE IS THAT WE NEED MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND DIVERSE HOUSING ALL OVER THIS COUNTY AND AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW THAT THERE ARE THE NEEDS, I COME FROM THE RENTING COMMUNITY AND RENTERS DESERVE DIVERSITY. RENTERS DO CONTRIBUTE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT CONTRIBUTE TO THE COMMUNITY AND EVEN HAVE AN ADULT. UH, MY ADULT CHILDREN WHO LIVE ALONG DIXIE IN SOME OF THESE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS. I KNOW THAT IT'S IMPORTANT AND AS WE CONSIDER WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH OUR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, THOSE MAJOR THOROUGHFARES ARE NATURALLY PLACES WHERE PEOPLE WANNA LIVE BECAUSE THEY WANNA HAVE OPTIONS. IF THEY'RE TRANSPORTATION ISN'T WORTH IT. I JUST WANT COUNCILWOMAN FOWLER TO KNOW THAT MY VOTE TO SUPPORT THIS IS NOT AGAINST YOU OR YOUR WORK OR YOUR CONSTITUENTS THAT AS THIS COUNCIL ROLE IT IS ABOUT DOING WHAT'S BEST FOR THE GREATER GOOD AND THAT I I'M GLAD THAT YOU ADVOCATED FOR THEM AND THAT YOU BROUGHT THEIR NEEDS AND THEIR TO THE TABLE, AND I THINK THAT THE DEVELOPER IS WILLINGNESS TO GO BACK IN AND TRY TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES. THOSE KINDS OF THINGS HAPPEN ALL THE TIME, NOT JUST AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL . IT SHOWS THAT WHAT YOU DID AND MAY NOT FEEL LIKE YOU'RE SUCCESSFUL. BUT YOU HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN THIS CONVERSATION.

AND IN THE WAY YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO HELP, UM, MOLD THAT PROJECT, SO PLEASE UNDERSTAND. IT'S NOT A TOTAL LOSS FOR YOU AND YOUR CONSTITUENTS. THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN. COUNCILMAN SIGHT THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. UM I WANNA COMMEND, UM COUNCILWOMAN FOWLER FOR LISTENING TO HER CONSTITUENTS. UH, I WAS AT THE, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING AND I LISTENED AND 99.9% OF THE CONSTITUENTS WERE AGAINST THIS DEVELOPMENT AND I DON'T KNOW WHY . THAT'S NOT PART OF THE RECORD, BUT THEY WERE THERE IN OPPOSITION, AND THEY WERE NOT LISTENED TO. THEY HAD AN AGENDA AND THE CONSTITUENTS DID NOT GET A VOICE. THEY HAD A LOT TO SAY. BUT IT DIDN'T MATTER. AND I JUST THINK THAT'S PART OF THE RECORD. UM AND I KEEP HEARING AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND I'M II. I CAN'T FOR

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THE LIFE OF ME. I DON'T KNOW WHERE ANYBODY THINKS $1255 FOR A SINGLE BEDROOM IS AFFORDABLE THESE TO THESE PEOPLE IN SOUTHWEST LOUISVILLE. IT IS NOT AND WE'VE GOT TO GET A HANDLE ON THIS AMI AND WHAT WE MEAN IN THE DEFINITION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING , BECAUSE IT'S NOT AFFORDABLE TO MY PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT. UM SO I HOPE WE WILL REVISIT THAT. BUT I'M GONNA BE A NO VOTE JUST BECAUSE THE CONSTITUENT SAYS NO, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FOWLER. UH, YES. THANK YOU. UM, MR PRESIDENT, SO GOING BACK TO WHAT COUNCILMAN BAKER SAID ABOUT EVERY AREA OF OUR CITY. THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT TO QUALIFY CENSUS TRACK FROM GENE SNYDER ON THE EAST SIDE OF DIXIE HIGHWAY ALL THE WAY DOWN TO ALMOST A COUNTY LINE. AND SO THEY I MEAN, FIGHTING OVER THAT LAND. RAILROAD TRACKS ARE KIND OF COMPLICATING THINGS THAT YOU KNOW. I. I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S QUALIFIED CENSUS TRACKS OUT OFF OF BEULAH CHURCH ROAD, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S GONNA BE HARD. FOR US TO DELIBERATELY MAKE SURE THAT THESE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS ARE PLACED IN AREAS THAT, YOU KNOW. FAIRLY AND SOUTH DIXIE DOESN'T GET, YOU KNOW, 10 OF THEM AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, OTHER AREAS OF TOWN AND SO THAT THAT'S THE PROBLEM AND II. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A WAY FOR US TO HAVE A, YOU KNOW. ROAD MAP. YOU KNOW WHEN THERE'S ONE HERE AND THERE WHAT NEEDS TO BE ONE OVER HERE, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT. BUT IT'S THE ONLY FAIR WAY AND, UM, I WANTED TO ADDRESS THE, UM THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THIS IS A TRUE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. UM DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE FOR A SINGLE BEDROOM HOME OR A UNIT, IT WILL BE 450 THEREABOUTS $450 A MONTH FOR TWO BEDROOMS, 700 ISH, AND THEN I THINK IT WAS 1100 FOR A THREE BEDROOM. SO YOU KNOW EVERY UNIT EXCEPT FOR THOSE 11 HOMES ALONG FLOWER VILLE. WILL BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO THIS IS YOU KNOW, GONNA REALLY ADD TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT WE NEED. IT'S GOING TO DEPLETE THAT NUMBER. UM, BECAUSE I MEAN, THIS IS THE FIRST ONE I'VE HEARD OF BEING BUILT OTHER THAN MAYBE UP THERE IN COUNCILMAN BLACKWELL'S, UH, DISTRICT OFF OF, UM I. I THINK THAT OFF A DIS. YEAH, AND SO YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST FRUSTRATING. AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. FAIRLY ACROSS OUR WHOLE COUNTY IN AND CITY, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T. I DON'T KNOW HOW, BUT I THINK THAT'S A CONVERSATION. MAYBE WE CAN HAVE IN OUR AD HOC. COMMITTEE. BUT AGAIN THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN HAWKINS. UM IS IT TO MY COLLEAGUE UM, COUNCILMAN PHILIP BAKER. UM RESPECT EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID WHOLEHEARTEDLY, BUT, UH ONE THING THAT WE SHOULDN'T DO THAT. I THINK THAT, UH, US AS A BLACK MINORITIES HAVE DONE FOR WAY TOO LONG AND THEN SETTLE. WE DON'T HAVE TO SETTLE FOR APARTMENTS JUST BECAUSE WE BLACK AND BROWN, SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT FOR THE RECORD, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, UH, COUNCILOR MARINO WEBER. I. I DO THINK THAT TO ADDRESS COUNCILMAN SYMES POINT, YOU KNOW IF WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE RENTS THAT ARE AFFORDABLE OR HAVE AGAIN RENTS THAT ARE AFFORDABLE. WE HAVE TO BE INCREASING THE HOUSING STOCK. THERE'S I. I HEAR YOU THAT THAT THAT LEVEL IS NOT AFFORDABLE FOR EVERYBODY. BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT LEVEL, THEN WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DROP THE PRICES FOR ANY LEVEL. SO I. I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE COMPONENTS OF THIS THAT THIS IS WHAT WE WANT IT ON A TRANSIT CORRIDOR. IT'S A MIX OF HOUSING UNITS, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I CAN WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT TOWARDS THAT VISION. CREATING AFFORDABLE HOUSING STOCK FOR EVERYBODY. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN BAKER. ALL RIGHT, II. I KNOW WE, UH, HAVE TALKED LATE. THAT'S THAT'S NOT QUITE WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT. CASTLE THE HAWKINS I WAS TALKING ABOUT BALLADS, BUT, UM, I LIKE II. I GET THAT IT'S HARD WORK, BUT IT'S THE WORK THAT WE ALL SIGNED UP FOR, AND I GET AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ONE OR TWO, I MEAN, SOME OF OUR DISTRICTS HAVE QUITE A FEW ALREADY AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND SO, UM, IT'S A COMPLICATED ISSUE. I UNDERSTAND.

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UM I THINK WE'RE GETTING OUT THERE IN THE WEEDS BECAUSE WE YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND. WE CAN ONLY GO OFF OF WHAT IS ON THE RECORD. AND SO WE, YOU KNOW, WE II I WASN'T THERE, SO I'M JUST LOOKING AT WHAT YOU KNOW IF THE DEVELOPER IS COMMU, UH, ENGAGED WITH COMMUNITY FOUR TIMES. I THINK THAT'S MORE THAN ENOUGH. AND IF IT'S UH, GONE THROUGH THE PATTERN BOOK AND ALL THE CHECKLIST, YOU KNOW, UM, BUT THIS CRISIS IS REAL. IT'S GOING TO WE ARE TURNING THE CORNER.

UH, IT'S NOT A SPEEDBOAT ISSUE. WE ARE TURNING THAT CRUISE LINER . AND SO I DO THINK THAT YOU KNOW, I. I IMPLORE PEOPLE OF MAKING SURE THAT EVERY TIME THAT WE'RE SHOOTING THE DEVELOP DEVELOPMENT DOWN I, I BELIEVE IT'S SENDING A MESSAGE. UM, AND AGAIN, I JUST ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES. SPOT ON THIS. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. UH, WOMAN, MCCRANEY. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. YOU KNOW, I WISH WE COULD CHANGE THE TERMINOLOGY FROM AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO SOMETHING ELSE, BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE FIRST HEAR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THEY DO THINGS SLUMS. THEY THINK, UH, POOR PEOPLE, AND I HAD A CONVERSATION IN DISTRICT SEVEN. THE BEAUTIFUL LOVELY WON'T FOR NOTHING. HARDLY DISTRICT SEVEN. AND I SAID TO THEM, WE'VE GOTTA LOOK AT EMBRACING THE FACT THAT WE HAVE TO BUILD HOUSING IN THIS COMMUNITY. AND IF IT COMES IN OUR BACKYARD, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT MAKING SURE WE PUT BINDING ELEMENTS ON THERE AND THINGS THAT WE WANT TO SEE IN OUR COMMUNITY SO THAT IT CAN WORK. BUT I WILL NOT BE AND I SAID THIS TO MY DISTRICT. I WILL NOT BE TURNING DOWN HOUSING. IF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS IN THEIR HEAD AS BEING ABOUT POOR PEOPLE. I HAVE SONS WHILE THEY DON'T LIVE IN LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY, I WISH THEY DID. AND IF THEY DID, I WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD. SOME PLACE TO LIVE AFFORDABLE DEPENDS ON YOUR INCOME. AND EVERYBODY HAS A RIGHT TO LIVE IN WHATEVER DISTRICT THEY WANT TO LIVE IN. AND SO THIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR LOWER INCOME CONSTITUENTS AS WELL AS HIGH INCOME CONSTITUENTS SHOULD BE IN A MIXED USE ENVIRONMENT AND SHOULD BE THROUGHOUT EVERY DISTRICT IN THIS COMMUNITY, SO MAYBE WE NEED TO START LOOKING AT A WAY TO APPROACH THE TERMINOLOGY OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING SO THAT IT WON'T HAVE SUCH A NEGATIVE CONNOTATION ON IT. WE NEED HOUSING IN THIS COMMUNITY AND WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO SAY NO TO THESE DEVELOPMENTS, WHETHER IT'S IN OUR BACKYARD OR NOT, WE NEED IT BADLY AND AGAIN. I THINK IT'S THE TERMINOLOGY THAT'S TRIPPING US UP QUITE A BIT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR REED. UH, THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. UM, I THINK, UM WE HAVE IN THIS CITY. A TENDENCY TO BE READY FIRE AIM WHEN IT COMES TO INFRASTRUCTURE AS IT WOULD HELP DEVELOPMENT. AND YOU KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK AND JUST ECHOING WHAT COUNCILMAN BENSON AND I TALK ABOUT A LOT IS THAT, UM IF WE INVESTED IN A ROAD PLAN TO WHERE PUBLIC WORKS WOULD SPEND SOME MONEY THAT WE WOULD FIND.

THAT WOULD HELP BE PROACTIVE IN TERMS OF THE ROADS THAT WE BUILD . THAT WOULD HELP DEVELOPERS AND IT WOULD HELP US LOCATE THE BEST POSSIBLE AREAS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO I WOULD LIKE TO CHALLENGE US TO BE MORE PROACTIVE IN THAT WAY. UM I KNOW THAT IT WOULD HELP THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY. I THINK IT WOULD HELP US. YOU KNOW, UM, BECAUSE WE DO LISTEN TO OUR CONSTITUENTS. AND UM YOU KNOW, IN MANY CASES, WE HAVE APPROVED DEVELOPMENTS IN AREAS THAT DIDN'T HAVE THE PROPER ROADS DIDN'T HAVE THE PROPER TAR LINES AND I DON'T BLAME US, I GUESS FOR DOING IT. BECAUSE THERE IS AN ACUTE NEED, BUT, UH I JUST THINK WE COULD BE A WHOLE LOT MORE PROACTIVE. I GO TO OTHER CITIES. YOU KNOW, I GO TO G. UH UH, GREENVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA.

I GO TO CHARLOTTE. I GO TO INDIANAPOLIS. ALL THESE CITIES JUST SEEM TO DO I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH THEY SPEND, BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THEY DO A MUCH BETTER JOB OF PROACTIVELY PLANNING THEIR DEVELOPMENT THAN WE DO. SO I'D LIKE TO CHALLENGE US TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE ACTIVE IN THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN ACKERSON. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. UH, FOLKS.

90% OF THE THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HERE IN THIS THING HAVE MEANT NOTHING TO THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE. ALL OF IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DISCUSSION. TAKE IT TO COUNCILMAN OWENS COMMITTEE FOR AD HOC LAND DEVELOPMENT AND DISCUSS IT THERE. THE FUNCTIONAL REALITY HERE IS THERE'S NOT A SINGLE THING THAT'S BEEN FILED WITH ALTERNATIVE FINDINGS OF FACT. THEREFORE THERE IS NO NO VOTE TONIGHT. YOU CAN VOTE. NO BUT THERE WILL BE NO, NO ON THIS . THIS IS GOING TO PASS. AND BECAUSE OF THAT, I WOULD SAY, GO TO TAKE ALL THESE IDEAS. TAKE TO THE AD HOC COMMITTEE. COUNCILOR OWEN WOULD LOVE TO HEAR HIM FURTHER THAN THAT. I WOULD SAY AT THE MOMENT, THIS IS A DONE DEAL. I CALL THE QUESTION. OK, OK, SEC. THE QUESTION HAS BEEN CALLED, UH AND PROBABLY SECONDED

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ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED THE AYES HAVE IT, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE OPEN THE VOTING.

YEAH, MR. PRESIDENT YOU HAVE 23. YES, VOTES AND WE GOT ONE MORE. I'M SORRY, SIR. ONE SECOND YOU HAVE 24? YES VOTES AND TWO NO VOTES. THANK YOU. THE ORDINANCE IS ADOPTED. MADAM CLERK ARE

[44. O-069-24 AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE ZONING OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1116 LOGAN STREET CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 0.1033 ACRES AND BEING IN LOUISVILLE METRO (CASE NO. 23ZONE0163). 4/16/24 Planning and Zoning Committee Recommended for Approval Action Required By: June 21, 2024 Sponsors: Madonna Flood (D-24) ]

READING OF ITEM 44. IN ORDER RELATING TO THE ZONING APPROPRIATE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1116 LOGAN STREET CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 0.1033 ACRES AND BEING IN LOUISVILLE. METRO CASE NUMBER 23 ZONE 0163 READ INFO. A MOTION BY COUNCILOR ARTHUR SECOND BY COUNCILMAN PERISH, WRIGHT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION COUNCIL AND FLOOD THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. THE SITE IS LOCATED IN LOGAN STREET BETWEEN THE INTERSECTION OF MARY STREET IN EAST SAINT CATHERINE STREET, CONSISTING OF ONE PARCEL, WHICH IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH THE STRUCTURE, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO REZONE THE SITE IN ORDER TO USE THE STRUCTURE FOR A RESTAURANT, RETAIL AND SIMILAR SMALL BIT SMALL COMMERCIAL. THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE STUDY AREA FOR THE SMALL TOWN SHELBY PARK NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD FORM DISTRICT IN THE AREA IS OF MIXED USE WITH RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL AND INDUS INDUSTRIAL SURROUNDED IT. AND THIS IS IN COUNCILMAN BAKER'S DISTRICT. HE MAY WISH TO ADDRESS US. COUNCILOR BAKER UM, THIS IS JUST A DEVELOPMENT. THE COMMUNITY ACTUALLY WAS OVERWHELMINGLY FOR THIS, AND IT JUST TALKS ABOUT SOME OF THE EXCITING THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN THE AREA. UM COUNCIL, MACHAP TALKED ABOUT JUST WITH THE HAPPENING IN THE LOGO LOGAN STREET MARKET AREA AND SHOUT IT OUT ALL THE BARS AND SO, UH, JUST JUST DOING A COMMERCIAL FOR DISTRICT SIX EXCITING THINGS ARE HAPPENING AND SO COME BY. AND UH, ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO HAVE A YES VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE OF THIS IS AN ORDINANCE REQUIRING A ROLL CALL VOTE. MADAM CLERK. PLEASE OPEN THE VOTING.

MR. PRESIDENT YOU HAVE 24? YES VOTES. THANK YOU. THE ORDINANCE IS ADOPTED. MADAM CLERK READING

[45. O-070-24 AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE ZONING OF PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 5401, 5405 AND 5411 NEW CUT ROAD CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 0.70 ACRES AND BEING IN LOUISVILLE METRO (CASE NO. 22ZONE0165). 4/16/24 Planning and Zoning Committee Recommended for Approval Action Required By: June 1, 2024 Sponsors: Madonna Flood (D-24) ]

OF ITEM 45. IN ORDER TO RELATE TO THE ZONING AND PROPERTY LOCATED AT 54 01 54 05 5411 NEW CUT ROAD CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 0.07 ACRES AND BEING IN LOUISVILLE METRO CASE NUMBER 22 ZONE 0165 READ IN FULL MOTION MOTION BY COUNCILOR ARTHUR SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN SIM. UH IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION COUNCILOR? ONE FLOOD. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. THIS IS CURRENTLY A TIRE AND AUTO CENTER UNDER UNDER AN EXISTING C ONE DESIGNATION. THE STRUCTURE IS ALLOWED ONLY TWO REPAIR BAYS CURRENTLY UNDER THE ZONING. THEY'RE UNDER, UM, ZONING.

ENFORCEMENT DUE TO THE OPERATION OF A THIRD REPAIR BAY. THE C TWO ZONING WOULD ALLOW FOR THE THREE BAYS BINDING ELEMENT NUMBER SEVEN PROHIBITS MORE THAN FOUR INOPERABLE CARS PRESENT ON THE SITE AT ANY TIME, INOPERABLE VEHICLES PERMITTED ONLY WHILE WAITING FOR SERVICE TO BE PERFORMED. BINDING ELEMENT NUMBER EIGHT IS NO MORE THAN 300 SQUARE FEET CAN BE USED FOR OUTDOOR STORAGE OF TIRES. NO OUTDOOR STORAGE OF CAR TYPE, CARS, TIRES OR OTHER MATERIAL ASSOCIATED WITH THIS SITE SHALL BE STORED ON THE RE LOCATED AT 836 PALA ROAD, FINDING ELEMENT NUMBER NINE STIPULATES THAT ALL FINES ON ALL FINDS OWED TO THE CITY OF LOUISVILLE FOR ENFORCEMENT SHALL BE PAID IN FULL WITHIN 60 DAYS OF THE FINAL APPROVAL OF THIS ZONING CHANGE, FINDING THE ELEMENT NUMBER 10 DETAILS OF THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE NOT PERMITTED USE ON THIS SUBJECT SITE AND BY AN ELEMENT NUMBER. 11 STIPULATES. THE HOURS OF OPERATION SHALL BE FROM 8 A.M. TO 6 P.M. AND BINDING ELEMENT NUMBER 12, NO OUTDOOR REPAIRS. AND BINDING ELEMENT NUMBER 13 NO USE OF STORAGE CONTAINERS ON SITE. WE NEED TO ALSO ADD BINDING ELEMENT NUMBER 15 THAT NEEDS TO BE READ IN THE RECORD. TRAVIS DID YOU WANT ME TO DO THAT? OR YOU WANNA YOU WANNA DO IT? I'M HAPPY TO TRAVIS FEISTER, ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY. UH, THAT LANGUAGE IS AS FOLLOWS ANY SIGNIFICANT INCREASES TO THE PRO STRUCTURES EG INCREASES IN BUILDING HEIGHT NUMBER OF BUILDINGS NUMBER OF UNITS. ANY INCREASE IN DENSITY ON THE PROPERTY. ANY CHANGES IN USE ON THE PROPERTY WAS DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR SUBCOMITTEE THEREOF, AND OR ANY AMENDMENTS TO THE BINDING ELEMENTS OTHER THAN I, THE ADDITION OF NEW BINDING ELEMENTS TO I CHANGES THE BINDING ELEMENTS THAT MERELY UPDATE THE PUBLIC HEARING DATE OR THREE. I UPDATING A PREVIOUS VERSION OF THIS BINDING ELEMENT TO REFLECT THE CURRENT LANGUAGE SHALL BE REVIEWED BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WITH FINAL ACTION TO BE DETERMINED BY METRO COUNCIL. I MOVED THAT AMENDMENT. PROBABLY MOVING IN SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED THE ODDS

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HAVEN'T THIS IS IN COUNCILMAN BEAN'S DISTRICT. HE MAY WISH TO ADDRESS US. THANK YOU, UM MADAM CHAIR, PLANNING AND ZONING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. UM THIS IS IN MY DISTRICT OF DISTRICT 25 AT NEW CUT ROAD IN POA. UM, IT IS EAGLE TIRES WHO HAVE BEEN OPERATING, UM FOR A FEW YEARS AND THEN PURCHASED THE PROPERTIES ADJOINING TO THEM, UM, TO EXPAND THEIR BUSINESS, UM, AS A LOT OF SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, UM GET LOST IN THE WEEDS OF JUST OPERATING THEIR BUSINESS AND NOT UNDERSTANDING SOME OF THE ZONING IMPLEMENTATIONS THAT ARE NECESSARY TO EXPAND INTO THAT THEY HAVE FOLLOWED THE PROCESS TO COME THROUGH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE TO GET FROM C ONE TO C TWO SO THEY CAN EXPAND IN THEIR BUSINESS AND USE ALL THREE BAYS AND THE ADJOINING PROPERTIES THAT THEY HAVE, UM SO I ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES ON THIS COUNCIL TO SUPPORT THIS. CHANGE. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCIL. I'M SORRY. COUNCIL, RUI OK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, I JUST WANNA EXPLAIN WHY I WHY I WILL BE VOTING PRESENT ON THIS. THIS ACTUALLY IS, UH, IN HIS DISTRICT IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM MINE, AND I'VE BEEN AWARE OF THE REZONING ON THIS SINCE COVID AND WE HAD A REZONING DURING, UM, A ZOOM MEETING. THAT'S HOW FAR BACK IT GOES. AND AT THAT POINT, THE BUSINESS OWNER, UH, WAS TOLD THAT HE WAS OPERATING OUTSIDE OF ZONING, AND HE SAID HE DIDN'T CARE BECAUSE HE WAS MAKING MONEY. SO THIS HAS BEEN ONGOING FOR SEVERAL YEARS. HE WAS NOT LOST IN THE WEEDS. HE'S KNOWN ALL ALONG WHAT HE WAS DOING. SO AT THIS POINT, IT WAS EXPLAINED IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING THAT WE WOULD HAVE BETTER ENFORCEMENT CAPABILITY ON HIM WITH THE BINDING ELEMENTS SO UM, I DROPPED IN THE OPPOSITION TO IT. AT THIS POINT, I WILL VOTE PRESENT BECAUSE I CANNOT SUPPORT HIM. HOWEVER I KNOW IN REALITY, IT'S GOING TO PASS, SO I'LL BE VOTING PRESENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN BURCH. NOT TO GO TOO FAR IN THE WEEDS LIKE THE LAST ZONE IN CASE A FEW MINUTES AGO, BUT I? WELL, I PROMISE. UM AFTER THAT, WE DISCOVERED THAT THE BINDING ELEMENTS HAD MORE TEETH THAN JUST ALLOWING THEM TO GO THROUGH WITH THE FINES. I COMMITTED TO MAKING SURE THAT AS I DRIVE THROUGH AND PASS THAT PROPERTY IF THERE'S ANY VIOLATIONS, THAT WE WOULD BE THE FIRST ONES TO CALL THEM OUT ON THAT, AND THEN COUNCILWOMAN REALLY AGREED THAT THAT WAS OK AND VOTED YES, FOR IT. SO THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR RUI. I'LL JUST ADD THAT SHOULD HE ABIDE BY ALL HIS BINDING ELEMENTS. HE WILL HAVE ONE OF THE NICEST PROPERTIES ON NEW CUT ROAD, SO I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, THERE'S SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. UH, THIS IS NOT REQUIRING A ROLL CALL VOTE, MADAM CLERK. PLEASE OPEN THE VOTING. MR PRESIDENT, YOU HAVE 23. YES VOTES, ONE NO VOTE AND ONE PRESENT VOTE. THANK YOU. THE ORDINANCE IS ADOPTED. MADAM

[46. O-071-24 AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE ZONING OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 10309 CEDAR CREEK ROAD CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 24.99 ACRES AND BEING IN LOUISVILLE METRO (CASE NO. 23ZONE0111). (AS AMENDED) 4/16/24 Planning and Zoning Committee Amended; Recommended for Approval Action Required By: June 1, 2024 Sponsors: Madonna Flood (D-24) ]

CLERK OR READING OF ITEM 46. IN ORDER IT'S RELATING TO THE ZONING AND APPROPRIATELY LOCATED AT 10309 CEDAR CREEK ROAD CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 24.99 ACRES AND BEING IN LOUISVILLE.

METRO CASE NUMBER 23 IS, UM 0111 AS AMENDED MOTION BY COUNCILMAN ARTHUR SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN TIME. UH IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, COUNCILMAN FLOOD? THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. THE SITE IS JUST WEST OF THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE CITY OF HERITAGE CREEK. THESE THIS PROJECT CONSISTS OF 11 ACRES FOR 47 UNIT PATIO HOME STYLE DEVELOPMENT. THE SITE IS WITHIN THE STUDY OF THE OR EXCUSE ME. THE SITE IS WITHIN THE STUDY AREA FOR THE FERN CREEK SMALL AREA PLAN. WE ADDED THE, UH, STANDARD BINDING ELEMENT, WHICH IS BINDING ELEMENT NUMBER NINE IN REGARDS TO CHANGE IN USE. DENSITY DEVELOPMENT. BINDING ELEMENT CHANGES. IT'LL COME BACK TO, UM, PLAN OR EXCUSE ME, THE METRO COUNCIL. IF THAT DOES AND THIS ISN'T COUNCILMAN HUDSON'S.

DISTRICT IF YOU WOULD RECOGNIZE HIM, COUNCILMAN HUDSON. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. THIS IS A, UM DEVELOPMENT GOING IN RIGHT NEXT TO THE HERITAGE CREEK HOME RULE CITY, AND THEY ARE, UH, VERY SUPPORTIVE OF IT AS WELL. AM I AND WOULD ENCOURAGE A VOTE ON THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE REQUIRING A ROLL CALL VOTE. MADAM CLERK. PLEASE OPEN THE VOTING. MR PRESIDENT, YOU HAVE 23 YES, VOTES AND ONE PRESENT VOTE. THANK YOU. THE ORDINANCE IS SYSTEM SEEMS TO HAVE I'M SORRY.

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WAITING FOR IT TO COME BACK UP. OK HOLD ON. I'M GONNA OPEN IT UP SOMEWHERE. I DON'T MEAN TO HAVE TO OPEN VOTING, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO A YES. I'M SO SORRY. MR PRESIDENT, YOU HAVE 24? YES VOTES AND ONE PRESENT VOTE. THANK YOU. THE ORDINANCE IS ADOPTED. MADAM CLERK ARE READING

[47. R-030-24 A RESOLUTION UPDATING THE STANDARD DESIGN GUIDELINES FOR LANDMARKS. 4/16/24 Planning and Zoning Committee Recommended for Approval 3/19/24 Planning and Zoning Committee Tabled Action Required By: September 2024 Sponsors: Madonna Flood (D-24) ]

ABOUT 47. A RESOLUTION UPDATING THE STANDARD DESIGN GUIDELINES FOR LANDMARKS READ IN FULL UH, MOTION BY COUNCILOR B ARGENTI SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN SIMON. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION COUNCILMAN FLOOD? THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. THIS IS A RESOLUTE RESOLUTION UPDATING THE STANDARD DESIGN GUIDELINES FOR LANDMARKS. THESE STANDARDS WERE LAST UPDATED IN 1997. THESE STANDARDS ARE UTILIZED BY SIX OF THE SEVEN LOCAL PRESERVATION DISTRICTS. BUTCHERTOWN CHEROKEE TRIANGLE LIMERICK, OLD LOUISVILLE, PARKLAND, WEST MAIN STREET AND THE SEVENTH AND THE SEVENTH DISTRICT. CLIFTON HAS THEIR OWN DESIGN GUIDELINES. THE SUBSTANTIVE SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES RELATED TO THE CHANGES INCLUDED ROOFING SIDING, TRIM, MASONRY PAINT METAL. WINDOWS DOORS, ENTRYWAYS, PORCHES, DECKS, ALTERNATIVE MATERIALS. STOREFRONT SIGNAL SIGNAL SIGNAL SIGNS, MURALS, MAINTENANCE, STREETSCAPES, GARAGES AND SECONDARY STRUCTURES. THE DESIGN GUIDELINES ARE USED FOR THE ISSUANCE OF CERT ISSUANCE OF CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR LANDMARK DISTRICT PROPERTIES . IT GOVERNS THE TYPE OF MATERIALS YOU CAN USE ON ROOFS.

WHAT TYPE OF WINDOW CAN BE INSTALLED? THESE CHANGES MODERNIZE THE STANDARDS, GRAINING MORE FLEXIBILITY, BUT MORE WITH MORE SPECIFIC SPECIFICITY. SORRY THE GUIDELINES ARE BASED UPON THE 2014 RE, UH, REVISIONS THAT WERE DONE TO THE CLIFTON NEIGHBORHOOD. WHICH ARE WHICH ARE STILL MORE FLEXIBLE AND HAVE BEEN WELL RECEIVED BY ALL PARTIES, EVERY PRESERVATION DISTRICT OR EVERY PRESERVATION DISTRICT'S BOARD MET WITH LANDMARKS TO DISCUSS THIS, AND THERE WAS, UH, A LOT OF MEETINGS LEADING UP TO THIS, AND THIS IS A RESOLUTION. UM THAT WOULD HAVE WENT TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR, BUT THE COMMITTEE FELT LIKE IT SHOULD BE BROUGHT FORWARD BECAUSE IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE SINCE 1997 AND YOU MAY HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT THAT ARE IN THE QUEUE THAT WANT TO ADDRESS IT THAT DO, UM, HAVE THE DISTRICTS IN THEIR DISTRICTS. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN OWEN. THANK YOU, PRESIDENT. YEAH I THIS COULD HAVE GONE TO CONSENT. BUT II, I THINK WE ALL THOUGHT THAT IT WAS KIND OF A BIG DEAL THAT THIS WAS BEING UPDATED, AND I THINK I WANTED TO CALL OUT SAVANNAH D WHO DID A LOT OF WORK ON THIS, UH, FOR THE ADMINISTRATION WANTED TO TELL HER HOW MUCH, UH, APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT SHE DID ON THIS AND BROUGHT ALONG A LOT OF, UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE PROCESS. SO UH, I THINK IT'S JUST IMPORTANT THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS THIS CHANGE IS BEING MADE AND APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT WAS PUT INTO IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NO ONE ELSE IN CU. UH, THIS IS A RESOLUTION ALLOWING FOR A VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY, AYE, AYE, AND HE OPPOSED THE EYES, HAVE IT. MADAM CLERK, A READING OF ITEM 48. A RESOLUTION PURSUANT TO THE CAPITAL OPERATING BUDGET ORDINANCE APPROVING THE APPROPRIATION TO FUND THE

[48. R-033-24 A RESOLUTION PURSUANT TO THE CAPITAL AND OPERATING BUDGET ORDINANCES APPROVING THE APPROPRIATION TO FUND THE FOLLOWING NONCOMPETITIVELY NEGOTIATED SOLE SOURCE CONTRACT FOR OFFICE OF PHILANTHROPY TO HIRE CONSULTANT TO ADMINISTER WORKSHOPS FOR EARLY CHILDHOOD DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS – (SHP - $140,000.00). 4/17/24 Equity, Community Affairs, Housing, Health and Education Committee Recommended For Approval Action Required By: October 2024 Sponsors: Barbara Shanklin (D-2), Jecorey Arthur (I-4)]

FOLLOWING NONCOMPETITIVE NEGOTIATED SOCIAL SOURCE CONTRACT FOR OFFICE OF PHIL PHILANTHROPY. TO HIRE CONSULTANT TO ADMINISTER WORKSHOPS FOR EARLY CHILDHOOD DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS. SHP $140,000, WRITTEN IN FULL MOTION MOTION BY COUNCILOR ARTHUR SECOND COMES IN SYME. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, COUNCILMAN SHANKLIN? HE WAS HURT IN MY COMMITTEE AND THEY EVERYONE VOTED ON. OH, I FORGOT THAT PAIR OF STAIN IN A COUNCIL, MY HONOR. UM, YES, I'M GONNA BE ABSTAINING. UM, I'M A DAYCARE OWNER. SO THANK YOU. UH EVEN THOUGH THERE'S A RESOLUTION ALARM FOR A VOICE VOTE, WE WILL OPEN A ROLL CALL VOTE SO THAT WE CAN PROPERLY RECORD THE ABSTENTION, MADAM CLERK.

MR PRESIDENT, YOU HAVE 24 YES VOTES AND ONE ABSTENTION. THANK YOU. THE ORDINANCE IS ADOPTED.

[49. AP041624DG APPOINTMENT OF DUWAYNE GANT TO THE TRANSIT AUTHORITY OF RIVER CITY (TARC) BOARD. (TERM EXPIRES JUNE 30, 2027) 4/16/24 Government Oversight/Audit & Appointments Committee Recommended for Approval Action Required By: October 2024]

MADAM F READING ABOUT 49. APPOINTMENT OF DUANE GANT TO THE TRANSIT AUTHORITY OF RIVER CITY TART BOARD TERM EXPIRES JUNE THE 3RD 2027 RED AND FULL MOTION MOTION MY COUNCILMAN ARTHUR SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SIMON. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, COUNCILMAN ACKERSON.

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YES, MR PRESIDENT. THIS ITEM CAME OUT OF COMMITTEE. UH, WITH ONE ABSTENTION. UH WE IT'S ON OLD BUSINESS. UH, SO THE COUNCIL OF MOBILE HILL CAN ABSTAIN. UH, HE IS A MEMBER OF T. AND THIS IS A POINT MEMBER OF TALK BOARD. THANK YOU, UH, COUNCILOR MHI? YES DUE TO MY EMPLOYMENT WITH T.

I WILL BE ABSTAINING FROM THIS APPOINTMENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, THIS IS AN APPOINTMENT ALLOWS FOR A VOICE VOTE, BUT WE WILL CALL A ROLL VOTE SO WE CAN PROPERLY UH, RECORD THE ABSTENTION. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE OPEN THE VOTING. THE. MR. PRESIDENT, YOU HAVE 25? YES VOTES AND ONE ABSTENTION. THANK YOU. THE APPOINTMENT PASSES. UH ITEM FIFTY'S APPOINTMENT HAS

[50. RP041624TO WITHDRAWN REAPPOINTMENT OF TAWANDA OWSLEY TO THE TRANSIT AUTHORITY OF RIVER CITY (TARC) BOARD. (TERM EXPIRES MARCH 27, 2027) 4/16/24 Government Oversight/Audit & Appointments Committee Recommended for Approval Action Required By: October 2024]

WITHDRAWN BY THE APPOINTEE. BUT I BELIEVE COUNCIL P ARGENTI HAVE APPOINTED PERSONAL PRIVILEGE.

YES, THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. UH, ABSOLUTELY NOT GOING TO DEBATE OR TALK ABOUT THE DISCUSSION. UH, AS AS THAT WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT IT ON THE FLOOR TO FULLY DEBATE IT.

I DID WANT TO JUST TAKE A MOMENT. AND UH, POINT OUT. I DID HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO MISS OWSLEY. SHE UH, TO BE CLEAR SHE WITHDREW HER NOMINATION BY HER OWN VOLITION. UM I WANTED TO READ HER BIO ON THE RECORD AND TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK HER FOR THE SERVICE THAT SHE HAS HAD ON T, UH, JUST TO HIGHLIGHT SOMEBODY WHO I RESPECT VERY MUCH AND HAS DONE GREAT WORK IN THIS COMMUNITY. MISS OWSLEY IS A NONPROFIT FUNDRAISING EXECUTIVE WITH MORE THAN 20 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AND PROVEN RESULTS. SHE CURRENTLY SERVES AS THE CHIEF MARKETING AND DEVELOPMENT OFFICER FOR HOSPERS HEALTH, WHICH IS THE SECOND LARGEST NONPROFIT IN LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY. UNDER HER LEADERSHIP, THE ORGANIZATION'S 27 MILLION PEOPLE OF COMPASSION, COMPREHENSIVE CAMPAIGN IS SCHEDULED TO REACH ITS FUNDRAISING GOAL NEARLY A YEAR AHEAD OF SCHEDULE. PRIOR TO JOINING HOSPERS HEALTH, TOWANDA SERVED AS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE AMERICAN RED CROSS BLUEGRASS CHAPTER IN LEXINGTON, KENTUCKY, MARKETING DIRECTOR OF PHILANTHROPY AT KENTUCKY ONE HEALTH AND DIRECTOR OF MAJOR GIFTS AT CINCINNATI CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL. THESE POSITIONS COMBINED WITH THEIR EXPERIENCES AT THE UNIVERSITY OF KENTUCKY, NORTON HEALTH CO. COA CHILDREN'S HOSPITALS AND METRO UNITED WAY PROVIDE TO WANDA WITH A WIDE RANGE OF NON PROFIT, LEADERSHIP AND PHILANTHROPIC EXPERTISE. SHE EARNED HER BACHELOR OF SCIENCE IN BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF LOUISVILLE AND MASTERS IN BUSINESS COMMUNICATION FROM SPALDING UNIVERSITY. IN ADDITION TO FUND RAISING TO WANDA EXCELS AT STRATEGIC PLANNING, PUBLIC SPEAKING LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT, BOARD DEVELOPMENT AND PROBLEM SOLVING PAST BOARD INVOLVEMENT INCLUDES TRANSIT AUTHORITY OF RIVER CITY, GREATER LOUISVILLE INC LEADERSHIP. LOUISVILLE CENTER. LOUISVILLE URBAN LEAGUE LEXTON. UH, CHILDREN'S THEATER COMMERCE LEX LEX IN TRANSIT AUTHORITY TO WANDA WAS ALSO RECOGNIZED AS A DISTINGUISHED LEADER AND LEADERSHIP LEXINGTON THAT WAS RECOGNIZED AS A TOP UNDER 40 BY BUSINESS, FIRST OF LOUISVILLE. JUST WANT TO THANK HER FOR HER SERVICE. UH, I. I REGRET THAT SHE MADE THAT DECISION. BY THE TIME I TALKED TO HER, THE DECISION HAD BEEN MADE. SO THANKS VERY MUCH FOR THE MOMENT. MR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR PAGE. MR PRESIDENT, A POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE. THANK YOU. I KNOW TO WONDER THE LEY AND, UH SHE IS A FINE CITIZEN IN THIS COMMUNITY.

I THANK YOU, UH, COUNCILMAN PIATTI FOR READING HER BIO. HOWEVER I, UH, DID SPEAK WITH HER AFTER THE APPOINTMENT. UH, THAT CAME UP IN THE COMMITTEE. AND AFTER SHE HAD, UH, RESIGNED FROM THE BOARD, AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT SHE DID HAVE TO RESIGN. BASED ON WHAT? HER, UM HER IMAGE WAS OF HOW HER REAPPOINTMENT WAS HANDLED. HOWEVER I AM ENCOURAGING NOT ONLY MISS LEY, BUT ALL OF THE COMMUNITY RESIDENTS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS TO PLEASE DON'T BE DISCOURAGED AND TO PLEASE CONSIDER WHAT BOARD YOU WANNA SIT ON. LET US KNOW ABOUT IT. WE WANT TO SUPPORT YOU. WE NEED GOOD CITIZENS TO THESE BOARDS, AND, UH, WE REALLY WANT THEM TO NOT FEEL THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DISCOURAGE THEM OR WE DON'T WANT THEM TO SERVE BECAUSE WE ABSOLUTELY DO. AND SHE IS, UH, A VERY GOOD CONTRIBUTING CONSTITUENT IN THIS PARTICULAR COMMUNITY, AND WE'RE LUCKY TO HAVE HER AS WE ARE ALL OF OUR CONSTITUENTS AND I AGAIN ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO APPLY TO BE A VOLUNTEER IS WHAT THEY ARE ON THESE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK. A READING OF ITEM

[51. R-036-24 A RESOLUTION RENAMING SOUTH CENTRAL PARK TO “TAYLOR-BERRY PARK. 4/18/24 Parks and Sustainability Committee Recommended for Approval Action Required By: October 2024 Sponsors: Phillip T. Baker (D-6), Jennifer Chappell (D-15)]

51. A RESOLUTION RENAMING SOUTH CENTRAL PARK TO TAYLOR, BARRY PARK, RED AND FULL MAY HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND, PLEASE MOTION BY GOVERNMENT. SYME SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN PERISH. WRIGHT. UH, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, COUNCILMAN FOWLER? THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. UM, THIS IS, UM JUST,

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UH I. I THINK IT'S JUST TO REMOVE THE HYPHEN IN THE NAME OF TAYLOR BERRY PARK. UM I KNOW THAT MAYBE UM, COUNCILMAN, UH, BAKER OR COUNCILMAN CHAPPELL MAY KNOW MORE ABOUT IT AND MAYBE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO IT. OK, COUNCILMAN BAKER. YEAH, SO THIS IS A RESOLUTION THAT WAS A DIRECT ASKED OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. UM ANYBODY KNOWS? UH, THE AREA OF GEARING UP FOR CHURCHILL DOWNS IS THE TAYLOR BERRY AREA, AND SO JUST A SIMPLE , UH, AS THE COMMUNITIES IN FULL SUPPORT, AND SO WE'RE GONNA BE A BIG TO DO, AND SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY IS HONORED IN THE WAY THEY WANT TO BE. AND SO, WHICH IS WHY WE ARE SWITCHING THE NAME FROM SOUTH CENTRAL PARK TO TAYLOR BERRY PARK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR CHAPO ANYTHING OKAY.

UH I NEED AN AMENDMENT. I NEED THE MOTION. I. I NEED TO MAKE THE AMENDMENT. YES. SO CAN I GET THAT, IN THE FORM OF I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE THE HYPHEN BETWEEN TAYLOR AND BARRY APOLOGIES. I THOUGHT THAT WAS ALREADY DONE SECOND, OK, PROBABLY MOVED IN SECONDED. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION HEAR NONE OF ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. SAY AYE, I ANY OPPOSED THE AYES HAVE IT THE AMENDED ORDINANCE OR RESOLUTIONS BEFORE US NOW, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? MR CHAIR. I ASKED QUESTIONS. UH, THANK YOU. SORRY I MEAN, TRYING TO MAKE SURE I DO. I. I JUST WANNA SAY THAT. THIS IS AN AREA THAT THREE OF US AS COLLEAGUES SHARE AND, UM, ATTENDING THE MEETINGS AND TALKING TO THE CONSTITUENTS. THEY'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. MY THE RESPONSE. I'VE GOTTEN THAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY DO LIKE THE HYPHEN. BUT UM, I TALKED WITH COUNCILWOMAN CHAPPELL AND SHE WAS SAYING THAT ON OFFICIALLY ON THE BOOKS, WE DON'T KNOW IF THE HYPHEN IS THERE OR NOT. I THINK THE FACT THAT IT'S BEING RENAMED, TELL A BERY IS THE MOST IMPORTANT FOR THAT COMMUNITY, AND I'M EXCITED TO SEE THIS HAPPEN. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE . THIS IS RESOLUTION ALARM FOR A VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY, AYE, AYE, AND HE OPPOSED THE AYES HAVE IT. THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED. MADAM CLERK, A

[52. R-037-24 A RESOLUTION RATIFYING AND APPROVING A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT (THROUGH JUNE 30, 2027) RELATING TO WAGES, BENEFITS, AND OTHER TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT BETWEEN LOUISVILLE/JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT AND THE RIVER CITY FRATERNAL ORDER OF POLICE LODGE NO. 614, POLICE OFFICERS AND SERGEANTS. 4/17/2024 Public Safety Committee Recommended for Approval Action Required By: October 2024 Sponsors: Markus Winkler (D-17), Rick Blackwell (D-12)]

READING OF ITEM 52. A RESOLUTION RATIFYING AND APPROVING A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT THROUGH JUNE 30TH 2027 RELATING TO THE WAGES, BENEFITS AND OTHER TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT BETWEEN LOUISVILLE, JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT AND THE RIVER CITY.

FRATERNAL ORDER OF POLICE LODGE NUMBER 67614 POLICE OFFICERS AND SERGEANTS. RED INFO. A MOTION BY COUNCILOR P ARGENTI SECONDED BY COUNCILOR SYME. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILMAN HAWKINS? NO DISCUSSION. OK, UH, COUNCILMAN PERISH, WRIGHT. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WHEN WE WERE IN COMMITTEE I WAS ATTENDING VIRTUALLY AND I GAVE I EXPRESSED MY I HAD SOME QUESTIONS THAT STILL NEED TO BE ANSWERED, BUT I GET THAT WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS PROCESS. I JUST WANT THE OFFICERS IN ATTENDANCE TO KNOW I'M NOT AGAINST YOU OR AGAINST YOUR PAY INCREASES FOR YOU OR YOUR SERGEANTS AND LIEUTENANTS. I HAVE ALSO MET WITH YOUR CHIEF, AND SHE'S EXPLAINED SOME OF THE INTERNAL THINGS THAT SHE'S WORKING ON, AND IT WAS IN AAA.

MADE BY, UH, MR HUMPHRIES AS WELL. THE ISSUE IS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MONEY OVER FOUR YEARS AND PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY ARE RIGHTFULLY STILL SEEKING JUSTICE IN SO MANY SITUATIONS, NOT JUST BRIANNA TAYLOR, AND WE DON'T HAVE MUCH TO HOLD A COURT AND THE BUDGET BECOMES A PART OF THAT, AND I THINK IT'S UNFAIR THAT IF WE SAY NO, THAT TT'S JUST ABOUT US BEING AGAINST OFFICERS, IT'S NOT THAT IT'S THAT WE HAVE LITTLE RECOURSE AND BECAUSE WE WERE NOT A PART THE PROCESS TO EXPRESS THAT WE WANNA BE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS. SO MY NODE.

MY NOTE FOR BOTH IN THE COMMITTEE DIDN'T GET RECORDED BECAUSE I WAS VIRTUAL, AND NOW WE FIGURED OUT A WAY TO FIX THAT . I JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN THAT IT'S ABOUT NOT HAVING ALL THESE THINGS THAT'S HAPPENED SINCE 2020 PROPERLY ADDRESSED IN A WAY THAT THE COMMUNITY UNDER THIS UNDER THIS PENDING CONSENT DECREE CAN FEEL LIKE THOSE THINGS HAVE BEEN HONORED. AND THESE ARE THE PEOPLE NOT JUST FROM DISTRICT THREE. THESE ARE PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE DISTRICTS WHO AGREED THAT THERE HAS NOT BEEN ENOUGH JUSTICE AND A NOT ENOUGH ACCOUNTABILITY. IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT. IF YOU'RE DOING YOUR JOB, IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT. BUT THINGS HAVE HAPPENED OVER THE YEARS AND I DO BELIEVE THE CHIEF DESERVES THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD OUT AND DO WHAT SHE NEEDS TO DO WITHIN THAT FORCE. AND IT IS, REGRETTABLY BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD A LOT OF ANSWERS ON THINGS THAT I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR P ARGENTI. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. JUST JUST SAY QUICKLY. UH, THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO. UH HAPPY, VERY HAPPY TO VOTE FOR THIS CONTRACT. UH, I'M NOT GONNA BELABOR IT BUT HAPPY TO VOTE FOR THE NEXT CONTRACT AS WELL. AND, UH, I DID WANT TO POINT OUT

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SOMETHING. THE MAYOR UH, DID TWEET OUT. I THINK IT WAS YESTERDAY. AND IF THIS IS AN ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE OF GOOD NEWS TO COME, THEN I'M GLAD THESE EFFORTS ARE MAKING CHANGE. AND HE SAID, I'M GOING TO QUOTE RESPECTED OFFICER KEN CHRISTENSEN. KEN CHRISTIAN.

EXCUSE ME LEFT L MP D SEVERAL YEARS AGO TO WORK FOR ANOTHER LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT. I'M PROUD TO ANNOUNCE THAT HE'S COMING BACK TO LNPD. HE SAID HE'S IMPRESSED WITH THE NEW LEADERSHIP AND THE NEW POLICE UNION CONTRACT. THANK YOU RETURN FOR THANK YOU FOR RETURNING TO SERVE OUR CITY. UNQUOTE UH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ALL PART OF A STRATEGY. TO GET MORE OFFICERS AND TO MAKE THIS A SAFER CITY. AND IF THIS IS ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE THAT THE STRATEGY IS WORKING, OF WHICH THE CONTRACT IS A CRITICAL PART OF THE TERRIFIC AND KUDOS TO THE MAYOR.

THANK YOU GLAD TO VOTE FOR THIS CONTRACT AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. SO THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. I UM MIMIC MY COLLEAGUE. UM ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING WE CAN GIVE TO OUR POLICE OFFICERS. I AM ALL FOR, UM, REDESIGNATEDEPTEER AS LAW ENFORCEMENT APPRECIATION MONTH. WE APPRECIATE OUR L NPD, AND WE'RE GOING TO LET THEM KNOW THAT EVERY DAY. UM IF WE GET MORE, I WOULD AND I AM A RESOUNDING YES ON THIS RESOLUTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN TIME ARE YOU FINISHED? I APOLOGIZE.

UH, COUNCILMAN FLOOD. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. I'VE GOT I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF VOTING FOR SEVERAL CONTRACTS FOR LNPD. BUT THIS WILL BE TWO OF MY LAST CONTRACTS BECAUSE I AM RETIRING AT THE END OF THE YEAR AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I FEEL LIKE WE'RE MOVING THIS DEPARTMENT FORWARD EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP RETAIN THE TALENT THAT WE HAVE ON HERE.

UM YOU KNOW, I THINK, UH, DRILL SERGEANT SAID IT TO ME BEST. ONE TIME, HE SAID THAT EVERY ENTITY IS A REFLECTION OF WHAT SOCIETY IS. SO THAT MEANS THERE'S TO BE BAD IN EVERYTHING. WE WEED THEM OUT, AND WE MOVE FORWARD AND WE MAKE A BETTER DAY FOR THE NEXT DAY, SO IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU MEN AND WOMEN IN BLUE. I WANNA TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THANK YOU.

I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING WITH, UH, SEVERAL OF YOU , UM, ON SPECIAL PROJECTS, AND I REALLY APPRECIATED EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE FOR US. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN REED. UH, THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. THE PRIOR ADMINISTRATION. PRETTY MUCH GUTTED LL MP D. AND THIS IS AN EFFORT TO BUILD OUR RANKS BACK. AND THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. UH, WE MUST PAY OUR OFFICERS COMMENSURATE WITH PURE CITIES WITH SUBURBAN CITIES. UM AND I THINK THAT THIS CONTRACT, UM GOES A LONG WAY TO DO THAT. AND I'M VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE MAYOR'S COMMITMENT TO PUBLIC SAFETY. UH, EVERY TIME WE HAVE A CHANCE TO TALK, HE MENTIONS THAT SO, UH I WOULD BE OVERWHELMING.

YES VOTE HERE AND VERY HAPPY TO SUPPORT OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN BLUE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR RUI. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UM, KNOWING THE CONSENT DECREE AND HAVING READ MUCH OF THE HISTORY OF WHAT HAS GONE ON WITH LNPD. I AM VERY HAPPY TO SEE THE PROGRESS THAT HAS BEEN MADE, AND I KNOW THAT IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO TURN THE TITANIC AND IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO CHANGE CULTURE. BUT I KNOW THAT LNPD IS MAKING ALL THE EFFORTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE. TO IMPROVE THE, UH, BEHAVIOR OF THE TRAINING. THE MORALE OF THE OFFICERS AND, UM, I AM HAPPY TO SUPPORT THIS RESOLUTION, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT WORKING EFFECTIVELY TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITIES. UH, WHETHER THEY BE BROWN, BLACK RICH, POOR EAST AND WEST AND SOUTH AND WHEREVER THEY ARE, I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING, UM GOOD, SAFE PROTECTION FOR ALL OF US ACROSS OUR CITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN HAWKINS. I'LL SAY THIS. UM I ASKED A SERIES OF QUESTIONS. I REALLY WASN'T GONNA SAY ANYTHING , UM, IN COMMITTEE, BUT YOU KNOW, WE JUST WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO KEEP LIVING IN THE PAST. UM YOU KNOW, IT'S A BAD APPLE.

EVERYWHERE YOU GO. I'LL SAY THIS , BUT THE GOOD OUTWEIGHS THE BAD AND NOT ONLY JUST THAT. I FEEL LIKE IN ORDER FOR US. TO CONTINUE. EVERY DAY. SOMEBODY CALLS LNPD FOR SOMETHING. EVERY DAY. AND I THINK IT'S VERY SELFISH. ESPECIALLY LOOKING AT FOR PART TIME POSITION. WE MAKE.

AS COUNCIL MEMBERS. WHAT THEY MAKE IS FULL TIME EMPLOYEES AND EVERY DAY THEY PUT THEIR LIVES

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ON THE LINE. SO I HOPE I CAN GET EVERYONE'S FULL SUPPORT ON THIS. AND I WANNA SAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU EVERY DAY. FOR PUTTING YOUR LIVES ON THE LINE, NOT KNOWING IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE IT HOME TO YOUR FAMILIES. AND NO ONE'S PERFECT. NOT ME. NOT NO ONE SITTING ON THIS COUNCIL BUT TO BE ABLE TO WAKE UP. AND KNOW THAT YOU LIVE YOU MIGHT NOT MAKE IT HOME TO YOUR FAMILY SPEAKS VALUE, SO I'LL BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN HAWKINS, COUNCILMAN ARTHUR THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO EXPLAIN MY NO VOTES ON BOTH OF THESE CONTRACTS. UH, FIRST IF WE WANT THE MOST TRAINED, TRUSTED AND TRANSPARENT POLICE DEPARTMENT IN AMERICA LET'S OPEN COLLECTIVE BARGAINING NEGOTIATIONS UP TO THE PUBLIC. THE OLD FASHIONED MODEL OF CLOSED DOORS. NEGOTIATIONS IS THE OPPOSITE OF TRANSPARENCY. IF CITY GOVERNMENTS IN TEXAS AND FLORIDA ARE BRAVE ENOUGH TO HAVE OPEN DOOR NEGOTIATIONS. WHAT ARE WE HIDING IN LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY. SECONDLY THE TIME LIMIT ON INVESTIGATIONS PROPOSED IN THESE CONTRACTS IS A WORKAROUND FOR MISCONDUCT, DISCIPLINE AND COMMITTEE. THE CHIEF SAID. INVESTIGATIONS ARE FINISHED WITHIN THE PROPOSED TIME FRAME NOW BUT WHEN I TALK TO OFFICERS AND CITIZENS WHO COMPLAIN, I'M HEARING AN INVESTIGATIONS TAKE UP TO YEARS. THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE ALSO REPORTED THAT LNPD ROUTINELY FAILS TO IMPOSE MEANINGFUL CONSEQUENCES WHEN OFFICERS VIOLATE POLICY AND INVESTIGATIONS ARE UNTIMELY AND CAN TAKE YEARS TO COMPLETE.

WITHOUT CONSEQUENCES OF MISSING DEADLINES. THIS POLICY WILL ALWAYS WORK IN FAVOR OF OFFICERS BEING ACCUSED OF MISCONDUCT. THE COMPLAINTS PROCESS IS ALREADY DISCOURAGING. THIS TIME LIMIT WOULD MAKE IT A DISGRACE. AND LASTLY, THE CHIEF HAVING POWER TO APPOINT PEOPLE TO THE ACCOUNTABILITY AND IMPROVEMENT BUREAU ARBITRARILY IS PROBLEMATIC. THIS GIVES POWERS TO THE NEXT CHIEF AND THE NEXT CHIEF OVER A BUREAU THAT CAN MAKE OR BREAK NECESSARY CHANGES TO THIS DEPARTMENT. NO ONE PERSON SHOULD HAVE ALL THAT POWER. WE MIGHT TRUST THE CHIEF NOW. BUT WHAT HAPPENS IF A STEVE CONRAD COMES BACK? SO FOR THAT REASON AND MORE I'M A NO. I'D ALSO LIKE TO ATTACH A JOINT LETTER TO BOTH RESOLUTIONS FROM THE 490 PROJECT. LOUISVILLE SHOWING UP FOR RACIAL JUSTICE, THE AC LU OF KENTUCKY, THE LOUISVILLE URBAN LEAGUE AND MANY MORE WHO ARE DEMANDING MORE FROM THIS CITY GOVERNMENT. THAT LETTER HAS BEEN FORWARDED TO THE CLERK AND IT WAS FORWARDED TO METRO COUNCIL LAST WEEK. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN ARTHUR COUNCILMAN MCCRANEY. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. I, UH, WANNA SAY THAT I HAVE VOTED NO ON A POLICE CONTRACT IN THE PAST. IN FACT, I THINK IT WAS MY FIRST YEAR ON THE COUNCIL. BUT I DID SO BECAUSE I DIDN'T FEEL THE PAY WAS ENOUGH. AND I SENT IT BACK.

I SENT IT BACK TO THE NEGOTIATION TABLE. THAT WAS NOT VERY POPULAR, BUT THEY DID GET AN A BUMP. SO I CAN TELL YOU THAT WITH THIS CONTRACT, I AM A RESOUNDING YES. BECAUSE I SEE IMPROVEMENT AND I SEE WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO TRY TO RIGHT SOME WRONGS, AND I KNOW THAT I WOULD NOT PERSONALLY BE ABLE TO DO THAT JOB. NOR A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE THAT I KNOW. AND MOST OF US ON THIS COUNCIL. BUT THEY DESERVE A HIGHER PAY. THEY DESERVE WHAT THEY'RE WORTH AND THE GOOD ONES. YOU CAN'T EVEN YOU CAN'T EVEN PUT A PRICE ON THE VALUE THAT THEY BRING TO THE TABLE. SO I HOPE MY COLLEAGUES CAN SEE THE GOOD IN WHAT'S HAPPENING AND WE ARE MOVING FORWARD AND AGGRESSIVELY. WE ARE WANTING THEM TO BE PAID FOR WHAT THEY'RE WORTH. UNFORTUNATELY WE CAN'T PAY THEM WHAT THEY'RE WORTH, BUT I HOPE THAT ONE DAY WE WILL GET THERE AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN ALL EMBRACE THE FACT THAT WE'RE ALL GOING TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE AND I SEE THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO HOLD THEMSELVES ACCOUNTABLE. AND WHEN IT DOESN'T HAPPEN, WE CAN SPEAK UP. BUT TODAY TODAY. WE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE BEST AND THE BRIGHTEST ON OUR WORKFORCE AND IN OUR FORCE ENFORCEMENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU AND JUST COLLEAGUES. SO YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE HAVING ISSUES QUEUING IN. SO JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME VISIBILITY TO THE QUEUE. I'VE GOT DOCTOR SHANKLIN COUNCILMAN PERISH. WRIGHT COUNCILMAN HAWKINS, FOWLER AND PURVIS, UH, COUNCILMAN CHAMAN. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. I USED TO STAND UP. THAT'S MY MAJOR, AND WE DON'T ALWAYS SEE HOW THAT HAPPENED. BUT IN HISTORY I MEAN, SIX DIVISION WE HEAR ABOUT EXCELLENT. WE GUYS, YOU KNOW REALLY GOOD TO WORK WITH THEM, AND I ALWAYS APPRECIATE WHAT THEY DO. AND ANY TIME I CALL ON ON THE MAJOR LIKE ANYTHING AND

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SHE'S THERE. AND SO WE HAVE OUR DIFFERENCES, BUT WE ALWAYS WORK IT OUT. SO THANK YOU FOR BEING THE MAJOR IN THE DIVISIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR PER I JUST WANNA GO AHEAD AND SAY, UM, ADD TO MY POINT, SO THAT WHEN WE VOTE ON THE NEXT ONE, AND I CAN MY VOTE IS ALREADY EXPLAINED. I VOTED NO IN COMMITTEE ON BOTH AND KNOW TODAY I AM VOTING THAT BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT POLICE ARE POLICING THEMSELVES AND THEY STILL NEEDS TO BE A LOT OF WORK.

I DO SEE THE PROGRESS. UM LNPD HAS BEEN COMPLICIT IN VIOLATIONS OF HUMAN RIGHTS BOTH INTERNALLY AND EXTERNALLY, AND I KNOW THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS THAT, BUT THAT IS STILL AN ISSUE. AND THE BUDGET HAS GROWN WHILE OTHERS HAVE BEEN DECREASED. THERE NEEDS TO BE GOOD PAY, BENEFITS AND INCENTIVES FOR ALL LOUISVILLE METRO EMPLOYEES, AND I WANT THEM PAID WELL WITH BENEFITS. THAT'S NEVER BEEN AN ISSUE. THEY DESERVE IT. THEY PUT THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE, AND I ACTUALLY DID WANNA BECOME A POLICE OFFICER. I DID WANT TO DO WHAT YOU'RE DOING. I VISITED THE WELLNESS CENTER AND SAW THAT IT WAS 24 HOURS. I THINK IT IS. WELL RUN. I THINK WE NEED MORE 24 HOUR OPTIONS FOR OUR YOUNG PEOPLE, TOO ACROSS THE COUNTY. AND I THINK I WILL. I WILL KNOW THAT I WILL CONTINUE TO MEET WITH THE CHIEF AND ALL LEADERSHIP AND ALL THOSE THAT WORK FOR LNPD TO START ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS LNPD IS A PUBLIC GOOD, JUST LIKE TART. IT'S NOT MEANT TO MAKE MONEY, BUT THE PEOPLE WORKING FOR IT SHOULD KNOW THAT THEY HAVE A JOB THAT THEY CAN GET THE BENEFITS THEY NEED AND THEY DESERVE. THEY BOTH DESERVE TO BE FULLY FUNDED AND BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT MAKING MONEY, AND THEY ARE PUBLIC GOOD. WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO RELY ON THEM IN AN EQUITABLE AND FAIR WAY. AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I GAVE THAT SO. NEXT TIME. I CAN JUST VOTE. NO, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN HAWKINS. I JUST WANNA SAY RESPECTFULLY AS THE, UM PUBLIC. UH, SAFETY. UH, CHURN. UM ONE THING THAT I WOULD SAY THAT EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT ME. UM I'M GONNA HOLD A DEPARTMENT OR ANYBODY ELSE ACCOUNTABLE. YOU KNOW, AND, UH UM YOU KNOW AS MYSELF WHEN I WAS LEAVING OUT, AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT COUNCILMAN ARTHUR UM WE DID HAVE A OFFICER WITH FULL TRANSPARENCY . SAY WELL, HEY, THAT WASN'T TRUE. AS FAR AS THE CONTRACT AS FAR AS THE 150 DAYS, SO, YES, BUT THAT STILL UH, AN IDEA FOUND AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST. FOR THE INFORMATION. UM SO ONE THING ABOUT ME, I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S STILL A REASON TO HOLD UP THIS CONTRACT. I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD AS THINGS HAPPEN . WE NEED TO ADDRESS THEM AND MOVE ON. I AM THE CHAIR OF PUBLIC SAFETY, AND IF THERE IS AN ISSUE, I WILL TAKE ALL THE COMMUNITY NEED ALL THE COMMUNITY INPUT. UM I WILL TRY TO HOLD LNPD ACCOUNTABLE. I WILL BRING THEM IN AS MANY TIMES AS POSSIBLE. I WILL CONTACT. UH, BRENT, UM ACKERSON PUT HIM IN FRONT OF GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABILITY, WHATEVER IT TAKES, BUT IT STILL DOES NOT MEAN THAT TODAY. WE NEED TO HEAL. WE NEED TO MOVE ON. SO I AM ASKING YOU THE C PUBLIC SAFETY. UM CAN WE GO AHEAD AND COUNT A QUESTION? MOTION. THAT IS RIGHT. MR PRESIDENT. COULD ASK FOR ROLL CALL MOVED. WELL, FIRST WE GOT THE QUESTION HAS BEEN CALLED ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. SAY I ALL THOSE OPPOSED NAY. THE EYES, HAVE IT. QUESTION HAS BEEN CALLED. COUNCILMAN ACKERSON. WELL IN THE INTEREST OF TRANSPARENCY. LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE. OKAY? UH, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE OPEN THE VOTING.

MR PRESIDENT, YOU HAVE 22 YES VOTES AND THREE NO VOTES. THANK YOU. THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED.

[53. R-038-24 A RESOLUTION RATIFYING AND APPROVING A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT (FROM THE DATE OF ITS APPROVAL THROUGH JUNE 30, 2027) BETWEEN LOUISVILLE/JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT AND THE RIVER CITY FRATERNAL ORDER OF POLICE LODGE NO. 614, RELATING TO WAGES, HOURS, AND OTHER TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT OF ITS LIEUTENANTS AND CAPTAINS OF LOUISVILLE METRO POLICE DEPARTMENT. 4/17/2024 Public Safety Committee Recommended for Approval Action Required By: October 2024 Sponsors: Markus Winkler (D-17), Rick Blackwell (D-12)]

MADAM CLERK, THE READING OF ITEM 53. HEY, RESOLUTION, RATIFYING AND APPROVING THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT FROM THE DATE OF ITS APPROVAL THROUGH JUNE 30TH 2027 BETWEEN LOUISVILLE, JEFFERSON, JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT AND THE RIVER CITY FOR FRATERNAL ORDER OF POLICE LODGE NUMBER 614 RELATING TO WAGES, HOURS AND OTHER TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT OF ITS LIEUTENANTS AND CAPTAINS OF LOUIS METRO POLICE DEPARTMENT RIGHT IN FULL MOTION BY COUNCILOR P ARGENTI, SECONDED BY COUNCILOR SYME. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILMAN HAWKINS? I THINK I'VE SAID EVERYTHING THAT I NEEDED TO SAY. HOPE EVERYBODY CAN VOTE. YES, MOVE ON. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FOWLER. OR I'M SORRY. COUNTING? YEAH. COUNCILOR FOWLER. SORRY.

THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. I WANT TO STAND UP TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU ALL DO EVERY DAY.

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MAJOR BROCKMAN IS HERE HE IS MY MAJOR. UH I JUST CAN'T SAY ENOUGH GOOD ABOUT ALL THAT YOU ALL TRY TO DO. IT'S NOT PERFECT. BUT I KNOW YOU'RE OUT THERE DOING IT EVERY DAY, AND I APPRECIATE IT. AND I AM ALL FOR THIS. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FOWLER. COUNCIL. SIMON YOU'VE WITHDRAWN. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCILOR NARSON. JUST GET A ROLL CALL.

OK, UH, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE OPEN THE VOTING. COUNCIL. MATT DOING? MR PRESIDENT. YOU HAVE 23? YES VOTES AND TWO. NO VOTES. THANK YOU. THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED COLLEAGUES. THE NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS IS NEW BUSINESS AS YOU LEAVE THE CHAMBERS. PLEASE DO SO QUIETLY. SO THE CLERK MAY READ NEW BUSINESS. I WOULD ASK THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WISH TO

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