[1. O-065-24 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 177, SERIES 2023, RELATING TO THE SIXTH ROUND OF THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN (ARP) LOCAL FISCAL RECOVERY FUNDING TO VARIOUS LOUISVILLE METRO GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENTS TO ADDRESS THE CONTINUED IMPACT OF COVID-19 ON THE ECONOMY, PUBLIC HEALTH, STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, INDIVIDUALS, AND BUSINESSES BY AMENDING LANGUAGE PERTAINING TO THE FORECLOSURE FUNDING PROJECT (LAT-0098). Action Required By: October 2024 Sponsors: Rick Blackwell (D-12) ]

AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ARP LOCAL FISCAL RECOVERY FUNDING TO VARIOUS LOCAL METRO GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENTS TO ADDRESS THE CONTINUED IMPACT OF COVID-19 ON THE ECONOMY OF PUBLIC HEALTH, STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, INDIVIDUALS AND BUSINESSES BY MEAN LANGUAGE PERTAINING TO THE FORECLOSURE FUNDING PROJECT. L A 20098. I HAVE MOTION. THE MOTION IS SECONDED. OH, YES. I'M SORRY.

CAN YOU READ INTO THE RECORD? THE THIS VIDEO IS BEING HELD PURSUANT TO CARE AT 61.826 COUNCIL. RULE FIVE A RED AND FULL, VERY GOOD. RECALL AGAIN. THANK YOU. I'M GOOD, RIGHT? UM I HAVE A QUESTION. I'M TRYING TO GET IN THE QUEUE. YES. GO AHEAD. I DON'T SEE IN THE QUEUE. I KNOW

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I WAS TRYING TO GET IN THERE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. OH, YOU WERE TRYING. YOU'RE YOU HAVEN'T EFFECTIVELY GOTTEN INTO THE HERE. YOU'RE JUST TRYING. GOT YOU? YEAH. SO YOU HAVE A QUESTION BEFORE WE HEAR FROM OUR FOLKS. 00 I'LL HEAR FROM THE FOLKS. YOU OK? YEAH, AND I'M NOT SURE WHO WHO IS PLANNING TO START HERE. RIGHT. IF YOU CAN IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD, AND WE'LL START WITH YOU, UH, GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M LAURA GRABOWSKI, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR AT THE OFFICE OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. THE ORDINANCE CHANGE THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY WHEN THE FUNDING WAS ORIGINALLY ALLOCATED, IT WAS ALLOCATED FOR VACANT AND ABANDONED PROPERTY WORK. UM, AROUND, UH, CERTAIN INTERSTATE RAMPS. UH, MAINLY THAT HIT. UH, SOME NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE SOUTH LOUISVILLE AREA ALONG WITH OLD LOUISVILLE. UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING REALLY DILIGENTLY TO, UM , USE THE CITY FORECLOSURE PROGRAM. TO FORECLOSE ON THOSE VACANT AND ABANDONED PROPERTIES. UM BUT WE'RE COMING BACK TO YOU TODAY BECAUSE WE WOULD LIKE TO EXPAND THE RADIUS A LITTLE BIT MORE. UM THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE REQUIRED A ONE MILE RADIUS AROUND THOSE RAMPS. AND WE'D LIKE TO EXPAND TO THAT, UM, TO A FIVE MILE RATE FIVE MILE RADIUS. I REALIZE THAT THAT SEEMS BIG. UH, BUT WE'RE STILL WANTING TO FOCUS ON THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WERE IN THAT, UM, ORIGINAL ORDINANCE. WE ARE JUST NOT ABLE TO GET TO ALL OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS. UM AND WE WANT TO. WE WOULD LIKE TO FOCUS OUR EFFORTS A LITTLE BIT MORE ON, UM OTHER VACANT PROPERTY TOOLS LIKE C, CLEAR BOARDING DEMOLITION, THAT SORT OF THING RATHER THAN JUST, UM, JUST FORECLOSURE. WE'VE HAD SOME SUCCESS. UM, BUT WITH DEADLINES LOOMING, WE WOULD LIKE TO EXPAND IT A LITTLE BIT MORE. OUR STAFF HAS SEEN A FEW, UH, PROPERTIES COME THROUGH THAT ARE OUTSIDE THE RADIUS THAT WE COULD HAVE A BID ON AT THE COMMISSIONER'S SALE, OR WE COULD HAVE, UM, PUT INTO FORECLOSURE, SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE COHESIVE, SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. CHANGES ALSO IN JUST EXPAND A LITTLE BIT, AND THEN UM, HOPEFULLY ALLOWS YOU TO HAVE THE SAME PROGRAM, BUT, UM, BEING A LITTLE BIT MORE EFFECTIVE. YES, EXACTLY. YEAH, UH, COUNCILMAN ARTHUR. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, THIS WAS AN IMPORTANT PROJECT THAT I REMEMBER. WORKED ON A WHILE AGO. AND I WANT TO BE OUT OF IT AS A COSPONSOR. I'M ALSO CURIOUS. ABOUT HOW OFTEN YOU ALL UPDATE YOUR AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN DASHBOARD. IT'S A RESOURCE THAT I KNOW A FEW FOLKS USE. SO THAT'S A QUESTION AND THEN I JUST HAVE A COMMENT AFTER THAT. I'M GONNA HAVE TO DEFER TO KEN HILLEBRAND WITH A RP IS COMING UP. YOU WERE GOING TO FIRE THE HELL AND HILLEBRAND, DIRECTOR OF THE LOUISVILLE ACCELERATOR TEAM WITH THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET. WE UPDATE THE ARP DASHBOARDS ON A QUARTERLY BASIS. AS WE SUBMIT THE REPORTS TO THE COUNCIL AND TO THE US TREASURY. THANK YOU NOT ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO CHECK THAT OUT. USE IT. IT'S IMPORTANT FOR TRANSPARENCY'S SAKE. AND THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. THE BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE LAW DASHBOARD THAT YOU RECENTLY RELEASED. I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR THE PUBLIC, SO THEY SEE HOW WE'RE SPENDING THESE FEDERAL DOLLARS. I APPRECIATE IT. COUNCILWOMAN PERISH RIGHT? SOME OF MY QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED. I WANT TO THANK YOU. UH, I, UM I HAD SOME QUESTIONS BECAUSE JACOBS AREA AND TLE BARRY WERE MENTIONED. SO I JUST WANTED TO SEE HAVE YOU ALREADY IDENTIFIED OR IS THIS TO DO MORE IN THAT AREA? YEAH, THANKS FOR THAT. THAT QUESTION. WE DID A LOT OF IDENTIFICATION WITHIN THE ONE MILE RADIUS AND WE'VE DONE SOME INITIAL, UM SCOUTING OF SOME FORECLOSURE CANDIDATES AND THAT EXPANDED AREA AND THERE DEFINITELY ARE SOME, BUT WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN TO THAT NEXT LEVEL YET, UM PENDING APPROVAL OF THE CHANGE. AND IT'S JUST AN ASSUMPTION. BUT SOME OF THE FOR CLOSURE CANDIDATES ARE OWNED BY OTHER ENTITIES, NOT LIKE FAMILIES THAT'S BEEN IN THAT COMMUNITY FOR A LONG TIME AND THINGS LIKE THAT. ABSOLUTELY MOST OF THE FORECLOSURES THAT WE SEE THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE GENERALLY DON'T CHOOSE BECAUSE OF THAT, BUT THEY ARE TRULY ABANDONED. A LOT OF THEM ARE OWNED BY OUT OF TOWN COMPANIES OR COMPANIES THAT HAVE BEEN DISSOLVED, SOMETIMES DECEASED PEOPLE, BUT, UM, WE REALLY ARE LOOKING FOR VACANT AND ABANDONED PEOPLE. UH, I MEAN, EXCUSE ME VACANT AND ABANDONED PROPERTIES. AND IF WE, UM, IF WE CAN FIND ANY PEOPLE ASSOCIATED WITH IT, YOU KNOW WE DON'T WE DON'T WANNA USE OUR RESOURCES FOR THAT. OK, THANK YOU. THAT'S FROM KRAMER. THANK YOU. UM, WE DID A PROGRAM A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. A PILOT STUDY WITH THE, UH, CLEAR BOARDING. AND I'M I'M STRETCHING AT MY MEMORY HERE. OK UM, I KNOW

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THAT THAT THE INITIAL COST OF THE CLEAR BOARD WAS MORE EXPENSIVE. I ALSO KNOW THAT OUR PILOT REVEALED THAT THE HOMES THAT WE CLEAR BOARDED, WE HAD A BETTER OUTCOME OVER TIME. BUT I OUR SEEM TO REMEMBER THAT ONE OF THE THINGS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WAS THAT THOSE CLEAR BOARDS WILL BE REMOVED AND REUSED. AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THEY FOUND THAT WASN'T THE CASE SO IT WAS MORE EXPENSIVE TO DO IT. AND WHILE THE OUTCOME WAS GENERALLY BETTER THERE WAS SOME QUESTION AS TO WHETHER IT WAS REALLY WORTH THE DIFFERENCE IN PRICE. SO I NOTICED THAT YOU'VE ADDED CLEAR BOARDING HERE AND I'M CURIOUS, ARE WE AND I JUST I'M TRYING TO GET MY HEAD AROUND.

ARE WE ARE THERE SOME PLACES WHERE WE'RE SELECTIVELY CLEAR BOARDING, BECAUSE IN THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION THAT BENEFIT IS WORTH THE COST, OR HAVE WE DONE SOMETHING THROUGH PUBLIC WORKS THAT HAS BROUGHT DOWN THE COST OF CLEAR BOARDING BY REUSING SOME OF THOSE CLEAR BOARDS OR ARE WE JUST THROWING OUT THE STUDY AND SAYING WE DON'T CARE? IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE.

WE'RE GONNA DO IT ANYWAY. I'M KIDDING ON THE LAST ONE. I'M SURE THAT'S NOT THE CASE. SORRY THAT SARCASM WAS NOT VERY KIND. NO, YOU'RE FINE. UM SO IT IT IS MOSTLY NUMBER ONE. WHAT WE FOUND WITH CLEAR BOARDING IS THAT UM PEOPLE WERE VERY CURIOUS ABOUT IT. AND SO IF THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS WHAT IT WAS, THEY WOULD TEND TO TRY TO MESS WITH IT. UM SO WE CHANGED A FEW YEARS BACK THAT WHENEVER WE WOULD USE CLEAR BOARDING, WE WOULD PUT A STICKER ON IT THAT HAD A PHONE NUMBER.

AND IT WOULD, UH, YOU KNOW, GET TO OUR OFFICE. WE WOULD TELL THEM A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CLEAR BOARDING. WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GET IT BACK TO US SO THAT WE CAN REUSE IT. I WILL ADMIT THAT THAT HAS NOT BEEN, UM EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL. I BELIEVE WE NEED TO WORK A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THAT, UM, SO THAT WE CAN REUSE IT. BUT WE DO SEE THAT IT HAS BETTER OUTCOMES FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND FOR THE PARTICULAR HOUSE BECAUSE YOU'RE PUTTING ON SOMETHING THAT IF IT'S INSTALLED CORRECTLY, IS REALLY PRETTY INDESTRUCTIBLE. UM SO THE DECISIONS THAT WE'VE MADE HAVE BEEN IF WE HAVE A PROPERTY THAT IS THE CODE THAT'S GOING OUT AND RE BOARDING OVER AND OVER AGAIN, THEN THE COST OF THAT IS GOING TO, UM YOU KNOW, AT LEAST EQUAL THE BENEFIT OR OUTWEIGH THE EIGHT PLYWOOD TIMES THAT THEY'RE GOING ON DOING THAT, SO WE WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO IT IN TARGETED MANNER. GREAT. THANK YOU. ASSUME YOU JUST DO THAT EIGHT OUT THERE. THAT'S NOT REALLY YOU CAN'T POSSIBLY COST EIGHT TIMES AS MUCH RIGHT? THAT WAS JUST A NUMBER YOU THREW OUT. YEAH, JUST TO THROW OUT NUMBER. UH, COUNCILOR PARKER. COUNCIL. WITH THE ART FUNDS. IF YOU DON'T USE ALL OF THE ART FUNDS FOR THE 50 ABANDONED PROPERTY. UM DO WE GET TO RETAIN THOSE FUNDS OR HOLD THOSE OVER? UM FROM YEAR TO YEAR AND I THINK THAT AVERAGE IS ABOUT 15,000, A PROPERTY WHICH SEEMS FAIRLY REASONABLE. BUT BESIDES SIDE BOARDING UH, WHAT ELSE WOULD THAT 15,000 AVERAGE GO? BE SPENT FOR THIS IS KEN HILLEBRAND, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE GLOBAL ACCELERATOR TEAM.

I'LL ANSWER THE FIRST QUESTION ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY DON'T SPEND THE FUNDS. SO IF THEY DON'T SPEND THESE FINES BY THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR, THEY WILL GO INTO THE ARP RECONCILIATION ACCOUNT. AND THEN ACCORDING TO ORDINANCE 143 SERIES 2022 PASSED BY THE METRO COUNCIL. THOSE FUNDS WILL THEN BE USED TO OFFSET GENERAL FUND ACCOUNTS TO THE ALLOWABLE AMOUNT, UH, ALLOWED BY THE US TREASURY AND THE REVENUE LOSS. SO WE WILL HAVE A WE WILL. IF THEY DON'T SPEND THEM ALL. WE'LL USE THAT MECHANISM TO SAVE THOSE DOLLARS AND USE THEM IN OUR COMMUNITY. THESE ARE OK. IS THERE ANY RESTRICTION ON THOSE FUNDS? WELL RIGHT NOW. THERE THERE ARE THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS . THEY HAVE TO BE USED FOR THIS PURPOSE. BUT ONCE THOSE FUNDS GO INTO THE ARP RECONCILIATION ACCOUNT, THE METRO COUNCIL HAS ESTABLISHED THAT WE CAN USE THOSE FUNDS IN A COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS. WE CAN COVER THE ANY ANY COST OVERRUNS OF PROJECTS UP TO 5% OR 100,000, WHICHEVER IS THE LEAST AMOUNT I THINK IT IS, OR WE CAN USE IT TO SUPPLEMENT A PROJECT UP FOR THAT SAME AMOUNT 5% OR 100,000. OTHERWISE WE COME BACK TO THE METRO COUNCIL FOR AUTHORIZATION TO USE THOSE FUNDS. BUT THE ORDINANCE THAT THE COUNCIL PASSED IN 2022 STIPULATES THAT ANY UNLIT FUNDS WOULD THEN WOULD GO INTO THIS ACCOUNT OR RECONCILIATION ACCOUNT AND THEN BE USED TO OFFSET GENERAL FUND EXPENSES AS ALLOWED BY THE US TREASURY. UH WE, BUT WE'D HAVE TO DO THAT BEFORE THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR. REMIND HER

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IF YOU WILL, KEN, THAT, UM, THESE ARE OUR FUNDS, AND SO THERE IS A HARD DEADLINE FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IF WE DON'T USE THEM FOR WHATEVER PURPOSE THAT I DON'T REMEMBER.

WHAT IS THAT? THAT? YEAH. SO WE HAVE TWO DEADLINES THAT WE'RE TRACKING VERY CLOSELY. ONE IS DECEMBER 31ST 2024. THAT'S THE DEADLINE WHEN ALL THE FUNDS HAVE TO BE OBLIGATED, AND THEN THAT MEANS THAT THERE HAS TO BE A PURCHASE ORDER OR A SERVICE THAT WE HAVE ACQUIRED FOR THOSE FUNDS AND THEN BY DECEMBER TW UH, 31ST 2026. WE HAVE TO SPEND ALL THE FUNDS SO ANY PROJECT THAT WE HAVE OBLIGATED THE FUNDS FOR AND WE'RE GOOD. AND WE MEET THAT DEAD DECEMBER 31ST 2024 DEADLINE . WE ALSO HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY SPEND THE MONEY BY DECEMBER 31ST 2026. SO WE'RE ACTIVE, ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN TRACKING BOTH OF THOSE DEADLINES. DOES DO THOSE FUNDS GO TOWARDS TAX LIENS THAT MAY BE ON THE PROPERTIES? OR IS IT JUST MORE REHAB? THE AT THIS POINT, THE FUNDING IS GOING TOWARD FILING FORECLOSURE ON THE VACANT AND ABANDONED PROPERTIES, ACQUIRING THE PROPERTIES AT SALE . WE HAVE TO GO AND, UM, BID AT AUCTION LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE WE CAN USE OUR CREDIT FOR WE CAN TAKE A CREDIT FOR THE LIENS THAT WE HAVE. BUT IF IT'S IF THE AUCTION IS GOING UP, WE HAVE TO ACTUALLY PAY MONEY. SO THAT'S WHAT THE CURRENT, UH, FUNDING ALLOCATION IS BEING USED FOR FILING FORECLOSURES AND ACQUIRING AT THE COMMISSIONER SALE. WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAD IS CLEAR BOARDING AND DEMOLITION SO THAT WHEN YOU'RE WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT A VACANT AND ABANDONED PROPERTY THAT, UM SOMETIMES WE NEED OTHER THINGS, NOT JUST FORECLOSURE FOR THAT PROPERTY. OK, THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN MCCRANEY. THANK YOU , MISTER CHAIRMAN. THIS QUESTION IS FOR LAURA. UM WHEN I LOOKED AT THE LIST OF HOMES THAT YOU AND FOR THE ABANDONED AND FOR DEMOLITION. I WAS CURIOUS WHY 1119 K? LAMAR IS NOT ON THE LIST. CAN YOU GIVE ME AN UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF THE FORECLOSURE OR ARRANGEMENTS BEING MADE FOR KAMAR. I CAN, UM HARMAR HAS GONE THROUGH THE FORECLOSURE PROCESS AND IT SHOULD BE ON THE DOCKET FOR COMMISSIONER SALE TOMORROW.

SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT SOMEONE WOULD COME TO THE TO THE COMMISSIONER SALE AND BID ON THE HOUSE AT AUCTION, AND, UM ONCE THEY ARE THEN THE OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY, THEY ARE ABLE TO YOU KNOW, DO WITH IT. WHAT THEY WANT . I MEAN, REHAB IT OCCUPY IT, THAT SORT OF THING. SO THAT SHOULD BE TOMORROW. OK, THANKS FOR THE DATE. UH, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH HOW THAT PROCESS WORKS. WE'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE WE CALL A SO. ARE YOU PREPARED? DO YOU ALL HAVE SOMEONE AT THAT CELL TOMORROW WITH THEM PREPARED TO PURCHASE THAT PROPERTY IF THE HOMEOWNER DOES NOT COME THROUGH UH, WE ARE. WE WILL BE AT THE SALE. WE ARE NOT PREPARED TO PURCHASE THAT PROPERTY. IT WILL. I'M ASSUMING IT WILL BE A FAIRLY HIGH, UM, VALUE. IT'S HARD VALUE BECAUSE OF THE FEES THAT THE CITY HAS PUT ON IT. I'D HAVE TO. I HAVE TO GO BACK AND THINK, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE ARE PLANNING ON BIDDING ON THAT PROPERTY, BUT I CAN GO BACK AND CHECK SO WHAT HAPPENS? IF THE HOMEOWNER DOES NOT DO ANYTHING, WHAT HAPPENS? THEN IT WILL GO. I MEAN, SOMEONE WILL PURCHASE IT AT THE AUCTION. TOMORROW IF THEY DO NOT. I'M ASKING IF THEY DON'T. WE'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE. IF THEY DO NOT PURCHASE THAT PROPERTY, WHAT THEN? DOES THE CITY DO BECAUSE IT'S STILL SITS ABANDONED, AND IT'S A NUISANCE FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO I'M I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT AS WE HAVE TALKED MANY OF TIMES ABOUT KAR WHAT HAPPENS NEXT TO THAT PROPERTY? YES, I'M OPTIMISTIC BY NATURE, SO I'M HOPING THAT SOMEBODY PURCHASES IT AND REHABS IT BUT TO YOUR QUESTION IF NOT I HAVE TO GET A PLAN B AND GET BACK WITH YOU, I. I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. YOU DON'T HAVE A PLAN, B. AS MUCH AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT, NOT THAT I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A PLAN, B. I JUST DON'T HAVE IT RIGHT WITH ME. AND HE WHO WHO'S

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RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PLAN, B. WELL. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I THINK THAT IT'S PROBABLY A COLLABORATION BETWEEN CODES AND REGS AND OUR OFFICE. OK WELL, WE'LL TALK LATER. I'M I'M I'M OPTIMISTIC, TOO, BY NATURE, BUT ON CALAMA, I CAN'T ACCEPT THE FACT THAT I CAN BE OPTIMISTIC AND I CERTAINLY AM DISAPPOINTED IN KNOWING THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE A PLAN B AS THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR OVER 10 YEARS AS YOU KNOW , AND SO FOR YOU TO SAY, YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT A PLAN B. AND YOU'RE OPTIMISTIC WHEN WE'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE FOR OVER 10 YEARS. IT'S UH, DISHEARTENING. I HEAR YOU. I WILL SAY ONE THING IS THAT I'VE I'M JUST GETTING BACK TO HOUSING. I'VE BEEN AT R CS FOR 8.5 MONTHS, SO I WILL USE THAT AS AN EXCUSE ONLY ONCE. AND THAT IS TODAY. UM I'M NOT SAYING THERE IS NOT A PLAN B. I AM JUST SAYING I AM NOT AWARE OF IT SO I WILL ABSOLUTELY GET BACK WITH YOU. COUNCILMAN HUDSON. THANK YOU. CHAIR. UH, THANK YOU FOR COMING. UH, MY QUESTION IS MORE OF A PRAGMATIC LOGISTICS KINDS OF QUESTION. AS YOU INCREASE THE SIZE OF THESE THE CIRCLES OF COVERAGE. MOST MOST SYSTEMS ARE NOT ROBUST ENOUGH TO TAKE A 25. TIMES INCREASE IN WORKLOAD. AS YOU INCREASE YOUR YOUR AREA FROM ROUGHLY 15 SQUARE MILES TO ALMOST 400 SQUARE MILES. IS THAT GOING TO INVOLVE HIRING MORE PEOPLE TO GO OUT AND PROCESS THESE HOUSES? HOW DOES THAT LOOK ? HOW DO YOU ABSORB THAT KIND OF INSTANT WORKLOAD INCREASE THAT THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. THE RADIUS. INCREASE. I WOULD SAY IS LESS IMPORTANT THAN THE FACT THAT WE ARE REALLY TRYING TO HIT THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT, UM WERE IN THAT ORIGINAL. UM ORDINANCE OR THAT ALLOCATION. SO, UM EVEN THOUGH THE RADIUS WE ARE ASKING FOR THE ONE MILE RADIUS TO BE EXPANDED TO FIVE MILE. WE ARE NOT. UH, WE ARE NOT SAYING THAT WE ARE GOING TO START. UM WORKING ON FORECLOSURES AND VACANT PROPERTY TOOLS ON ON EVERYTHING IN THERE FOR ONE. WE ALREADY HAVE A PRETTY ROBUST FORECLOSURE PROGRAM THAT THAT DOES WORK IN THOSE AREAS. THIS IS A VERY SPECIFIC, UM PART OF, UH, MONEY THAT WE ARE REALLY JUST TRYING TO HIT. UM WORK IN SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT, UM THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN BEFORE. SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE ONE MILE GETS 80. A THIRD OF THE WAY THROUGH TAYLOR BARRY, BUT WE'D LIKE TO GET THE REST OF THE WAY THROUGH TAYLOR BERRY. SO THEY'RE THERE WASN'T AN EASY WAY TO, UM, REQUEST AN ORDINANCE REVISION THAT WOULD REALLY CLARIFY THAT SO THE IDEA WAS SINCE THERE WAS A ONE MILE RADIUS IN THE ORIGINAL JUST TO EXPAND IT, BUT THERE WILL NOT BE ANY NEED TO HIRE MORE STAFF. WE HAVE THE STAFF THAT CAN MANAGE THAT. SO DO YOU HAVE A BALLPARK ESTIMATE OF WHAT KIND OF WORKLOAD INCREASE YOU ARE GOING TO BE FACING INTO IT? IT WILL PROBABLY BE AROUND ANOTHER 50 FORECLOSURES AND WE RUN. UM RIGHT NOW WE TRY TO DO AROUND 202 150 A YEAR AND THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT CAN BE PART OF THAT.

BUT WE HAVE A PRETTY ROBUST TEAM OF, UM, SUPERVISOR IN 2 TO 3 STAFF. PEOPLE WHO WORK ON THIS.

AND OF COURSE, OUR ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, UM, WORKS TO ACTUALLY FILE THE FORECLOSURES FOR US, SO OK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CHAIR. COUNCILMAN, NO. ONE UM, SO THIS MAY BE SPELLED OUT IN THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE, AND I HAD THE QUESTION FIRST, AND THEN WHEN YOU WERE TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PRO PROPERTY WITH, UM, COUNCIL AND MCCRANEY, IT SHED A LITTLE BIT OF LIGHT ON IT. BUT WHAT? HOW DO YOU DETERMINE WHICH PROPERTIES THE CITY BIDS ON? IT SOUNDS LIKE ONCE. ONCE IT'S GETS TO A CERTAIN DOLLAR AMOUNT. MAYBE THE CITY DROPS OUT OF THE BIDDING. I JUST WONDERED WHAT THAT KIND OF PROCESS IS. SURE THAT'S A THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. BECAUSE THE CITY UH, PLA PLACES LIENS ON THE PROPERTY BASED ON CODE ENFORCEMENT. UM WHEN WE WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY THE LAND BANK GOES TO THE SALE TO BID ON THESE PROPERTIES. WE CAN TAKE A CREDIT FOR WHATEVER UP TO OUR, UM WHATEVER LIENS WE HAVE, SO WE HAVE $30,000 IN LIENS. WE CAN, YOU KNOW, BID UP TO THAT AMOUNT. WE DO NOT OFTEN. UM, UH, EXPAND. FINES TO PURCHASE PROPERTIES.

MOST OF OUR GOAL IS REALLY JUST TO GET THAT PROPERTY OUT OF THE, UM THE SORT OF LEGAL NO MAN'S LAND THAT IS IN THIS ABANDONED NATURE. AND REALLY, WE'RE THE ONLY ONES WHO CAN DO THAT. SO IF YOU KNOW IF WE ARE, UM FORECLOSING, AND IT'S GOING TO SALE, AND SOMEONE IS THERE TO PURCHASET THAT FOR US IS A WIN WIN. UM THERE ARE CERTAIN AREAS OF TOWN THAT WE LIKE THAT. YOU

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KNOW, WE WOULD TARGET IF IT'S NEAR METRO INVESTMENTS OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. UM, SOMETIMES WE WILL TRY TO GET THEM, UM, USING EITHER OUR CREDIT OR, YOU KNOW, WE'LL GO A LITTLE BIT ABOVE. BUT TO YOUR POINT UM YOU KNOW, WE GENERALLY DON'T HAVE A BUDGET OR DON'T USE OUR BUDGET TO ACQUIRE. UH, PROPERTY. THAT WAS ONE REASON WHY THIS PILOT PROJECT WAS, UM I THINK VERY HELPFUL IN THE AREAS WHERE IT IS BECAUSE THERE ARE CERTAIN AREAS OF TOWN WHERE YOU KNOW, WE JUST IT WOULD BE IT WOULDN'T BE FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE FOR US TO UM, TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTIES THERE. ARE THESE ARE THESE II? I I'M NOT TERRIBLY FAMILIAR WITH THE AUCTION. THE DOES THE BIDDING DOESN'T DOES THE BIDDING START AT WHAT THE OUTSTANDING LIEN BALANCES TO ZERO AND YOU GUYS HAVE A CREDIT UP TO THE OUTSTANDING LIEN BALANCE AND IF NOBODY ELSE IS IF SOMEBODY IS WILLING TO BID LESS THAN THE OUTSTANDING LOAN BALANCE, WHERE YOU LET THEM TAKE IT? SOMETIMES THEY PAY OFF OR WE WILL YOU KIND OF BE COMPETITIVELY COMPETITIVELY BIDDING UP UNTIL THE OUTSTANDING BUT LEAN BALANCE AND SOMETIMES MAYBE A LITTLE BIT ABOVE. YEAH MOST OF THE TIME. IT'S THE LATTER AND MOST OF THE TIME WE WILL, BUT WE WANT THESE PROPERTIES, UM, TO GO INTO RESPONSIBLE OWNERSHIP THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET THEM OUT OF THE PURGATORY, THE LEGAL RGATORY EXACTLY. AND SO, WE, YOU KNOW, PART OF WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN DATA HAS SHOWN THAT IF SOMEONE IS WILLING TO PUT A DECENT AMOUNT OF IN THE GAME, THEN THEY ARE GOING TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT. WHEREAS IF SOMEBODY CAN, YOU KNOW THINKS THEY CAN GET SOMETHING FOR $500. THEY THEY MAY GO AND LOOK AT IT BECAUSE, REMEMBER THESE? IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'VE SEEN THESE PROPERTIES. WHEN THEY GO TO THE AUCTION. THEY'RE SIGHT UNSEEN, SO SOMETIMES THEY'LL GO AND LOOK AT IT AND BE LIKE AND SO FOR THE MOST PART, WE'RE THE LAST LAST CHANCE KIND OF BUYER. FOR THE MOST PART. YEAH. OK, THANK YOU. I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE FOR PLEASE OPEN THE VOTING. MANY MEMBER ARTHUR OH, I'M SORRY.

COULD BE A MEMBER OF MRE SYSTEM. COMMITTEE MEMBER MCCRANEY YES. COMMITTEE MEMBER PARTNER. YES.

YOU HAVE 11? YES, VOTES. THANK YOU, ADAM PRICE. THIS WILL GO TO CONSENT. THAT'S ONLY ITEM. THANK

[Adjournment Note: Agendas are followed at the discretion of the Chair. While an item may be listed, it does not mean all items will be heard and/or acted upon by the Committee.]

YOU ON ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN. THANK YOU. THE OBJECTION. WE ARE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

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