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CHURCH. TAMMY HAWKINS. TODAY I'M JOINED BY COMMITTEE MEMBERS. VICE DAN UH, VICE CHAIR, DAN SIMS. JUNGLE YEP. UM COMMITTEE MEMBER, BARBARA, UH, DOCTOR SHANKLAND. COMMITTEE MEMBER.SHAMIKA PRAYERS RUNNING. UM COMMITTEE MEMBER? UH, DOCTOR, RICK BLACKWELL. COMMITTEE MEMBER , SCOTT REED COMMITTEE MEMBER, STUART BENSON. AND I THINK THAT A COMMITTEE MEMBER PAT M WILL JOIN US LATER. CLARK, CAN YOU READ THE VIRTUAL MINUTES, PLEASE? THIS MEETING IS BEING HELD PURSUANT TO KRS 61.826 IN COUNCIL RULE FIVE A RED AND FULL THANK YOU. MR CLERK. TODAY WE HAVE FOUR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, INCLUDING A SPECIAL DISCUSSION. PLEASE NOTE THAT ITEM THREE WILL BE HAILED BY REQUEST OF THE SPONSOR CLERK. PLEASE READ ITEM ONE INTO THE RECORD, PLEASE. A
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RESOLUTION RATIFYING AND APPROVING A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT THROUGH JUNE 30TH 2027 RELATING TO WAGES AND BENEFITS AND OTHER TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT BETWEEN LOUISVILLE, JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT AND THE RIVER CITY. FRATERNAL ORDER OF POLICE LODGE NUMBER 614 POLICE OFFICERS AND SERGEANTS RIGHT IN FULL. TO HER MOTION. OK? THE ITEM HAS BEEN PROBABLY MOVED BY, UM, COMMITTEE MEMBER. BE BENSON STEWART AND SECOND BY A VICE CHAIR DAN SENT THE ITEM IS BEFORE US. I BELIEVE WE HAVE THE FOLLOWING PEOPLE HERE TO SPEAK BOTH, UH CB. A UH, CHIEF VILLAR AND HER COMMANDING STAFF. WE HAVE FOUR THANK YOU. GOOD[00:15:03]
AFTERNOON, UM TO THE COMMITTEE CHAIRS AND TO FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS TO EVERYONE THAT MAKES UP UM, THE ATTENDING BODIES WITHIN THIS COUNCIL CHAMBERS. UM, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, UM, IN FAVOR OF THE CONTRACTS BEING APPROVED BY YOU TODAY. WE ARE.IT'S EXCITING TIME IN OUR CITY. IT'S EXCITING TIME IN OUR CITY. CITIZENS WITHIN OUR CITY ARE NOW FEELING MORE ENERGIZED, ENERGIZED WITHIN OUR CITY TO GET BACK TO A SENSE OF NORMALCY.
FEELING SAFE, UM, ENJOYING THE AMENITIES WITHIN OUR CITY AND WHAT WE HAVE TO OFFER. BUT WITH THAT INDIVIDUALS MUST FEEL SAFE. THEY MUST FEEL SAFE BY HAVING QUALIFIED OFFICERS PATROLLING THE STREETS OF LOUISVILLE. WITH THAT IF WE WANT THE BEST OFFICERS ON AIR FORCE. WE MUST ENSURE THAT THEY ARE BEING PAID WELL. A COMPETITIVE WAGE AND THAT THEY'RE RECEIVING THE BEST TRAINING SUPERVISION AND THE SUPPORT THAT IS NEEDED FOR THEM TO DO THEIR JOBS AND DO IT WELL.
I STATED PREVIOUSLY EARLIER TODAY. WE CAN PAY OUR OFFICERS WELL, AND YET AND YET DEMAND ACCOUNTABILITY. TODAY I HAVE MANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY HERE TO SUPPORT US IN THIS EFFORT IN GETTING THIS CONTRACT PASSED. WE HAVE CLERGY HERE. WE HAVE THE ACTUAL MEDICAL CHIEF STAFF HERE WHO'S OVERSEES ALL THE DOCTORS OF UL. WE HAVE, UH, FOUNDATION MEMBERS. HERE WE HAVE THE CHURCHILL DOWNS EXECUTIVE MEMBERS HERE. WE HAVE COMMUNITY VOLUNTEERS THAT ARE PRESENT HERE TODAY IN SUPPORT OF THIS CONTRACT. WE HAVE NUMEROUS FOUNDATION MEMBERS THAT ARE PRESENT FROM VARIOUS BOARDS, SAYING, CHIEF THIS IS THE TIME FOR US TO HAVE THE BEST OFFICERS POSSIBLE FOR LNPD. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO SUPPORT AND PASS THIS CONTRACT. OUR CURRENT STAFFING LEVEL RIGHT NOW IS 1000 AND 67 SWORN OFFICERS. I AM CURRENTLY SHORT 261 OFFICERS. WHERE INDIVIDUALS OF THE COMMUNITY ASKED ME. I WANNA SEE MORE OFFICERS IN MY COMMUNITY. I NEED TO BE ABLE TO SUPPLY THAT AND I WANT TO, BUT I NEED THE BODIES TO DO IT. OFFICERS EVERY DAY ARE GOING FROM CALL TO CALL AND I'M ENCOURAGING THEM TO SLOW DOWN AND TAKE A MOMENT TO EMBRACE THE COMMUNITY. BUT THEY ARE TRYING TO MEET THE DEMANDS OF THOSE THAT ARE IN CRISIS AND THEY ARE DOING JUST THAT. WE GRADUATED TODAY SUCCESSFULLY 16 POLICE OFFICERS, THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS WERE THERE TO WITNESS THEM. TAKE THIS JOURNEY IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THIS GREAT CITY, AND WITH THAT WE ENCOURAGE THEM AND LET THEM KNOW THAT THE COMMUNITY IS BEHIND THEM. PASSING THIS CONTRACT WOULD DEMONSTRATE JUST THAT. WE ALSO TOO, HAD ONE ARSON INVESTIGATOR. AND I WAS PROUD OF THAT MEMBER BEING IN THAT GRADUATING CLASS AS WELL, BECAUSE FIRE ALSO TOO, NEEDS WELL TRAINED AND GREAT CANDIDATES. I SUPPORT ALL PUBLIC SAFETY IN THIS SPACE. THERE WERE MANY CONCERNS THAT WERE MADE ABOUT THAT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD ABOUT DISCIPLINE. HOW DOES THE CONTRACT IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE DODGING DISCIPLINE. I WANNA COME AGAINST THAT, UH, MISNOMER.
CONTRACT DOESN'T STATE THAT WE'RE DODGING DISCIPLINE. IT ACTUALLY GIVES US A BETTER STANDARD IN FOLLOWING DISCIPLINE. NOW WHEN THE INVESTIGATION IS OPEN FROM THE BEGINNING TO THE END, WE HAVE 100 AND 80 DAYS, WHICH WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO INVESTIGATE THAT COMPLAINT. AND MAKE A DETERMINATION WHERE DISCIPLINE IS GOING TO BE ISSUED AND RENDERED THAT DISCIPLINE. I WILL SUBMIT TO YOU TODAY. WE ARE CLOSING OUR OPENING AND CLOSING OUR INVESTIGATIONS. ROUGHLY BETWEEN 100 AND 32 AND 100 AND 50 DAYS WE'RE MEETING THAT STANDARD ALREADY. THAT IS WHAT THE CLARITY WITHIN THAT CONTRACT DICTATES. BUT WE DID NOT NEED TO PUT THAT IN THE CONTRACT TO BE NEGOTIATED. AGAIN I'M COMING AGAINST MISINFORMATION THAT WAS ALREADY DECIDED AND CAME TO AGREEMENT OUTSIDE OF THE CONTRACT. WE PLACE IT INTO THE CONTRACT FOR ADDITIONAL CLARITY AND FOR EVERYBODY TO SEE IT. SO AGAIN, WE ARE MAKING REFORMS AND MAKING THESE ADJUSTMENTS FOR US TO BE A BETTER DEPARTMENT, EVEN WHILE COMING TO THE TABLE TO NEGOTIATE ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT , THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING AND IT'S THE PROPER WAY. I WOULD ALSO TO SUBMIT TO YOU THAT THE DOJ ALSO TO SUPPORT THAT PARTICULAR METHOD AND PROCESS OF 100. 80 DAYS, WHICH THEY STATED OPENLY. WITHIN OUR PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS. WE HAVE BEEN STRESSING THAT THE CITIZENS ARE ABLE TO MAKE A COMPLAINT. THEY CAN GO ON OUR WEBSITE. IT IS CLEAR ON THERE THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY FILE OUT A COMPLAINT AND WE WILL INVESTIGATE IT. THEY CAN GO TO ANY DIVISION, UH WITHIN THE EIGHT DIVISIONS AND MAKE THE COMPLAINT. THEY CAN ALSO GO TO DIRECTLY TO THE PS UNIT, PSU UNIT AND ACTUALLY MADE THAT COMPLAINT THERE. BUT ALSO TO LNPD IS VERY TRANSPARENT THAT WE'VE STATED ON OUR WEBSITE THAT THE OIG IS ANOTHER ARM. WHERE THEY CAN MAKE THEIR COMPLAINTS. WE'RE NOT HIDING ABOUT BEING TRANSPARENT AND ACCOUNTABILITY.
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IT IS THERE AND WE ENCOURAGE OUR CITIZENS TO UTILIZE THAT PROCESS . ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP IS SAYING THAT THE CITIZENS DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE DISPOSITION OF THEIR CASE WAS THAT THEIR INVESTIGATION UH I'M HAPPY TO TELL YOU THAT WE DO PROVIDE THOSE NOTICES AS TO WHAT'S THE STATUS OF THEIR INVESTIGATION. AND WHAT IS THE OUTCOME? BUT WE'VE BEEN TAKING IT TAKING IT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER. EVEN OFFICERS WHO HAVE MADE A COMPLAINT WITHIN THE MEANT ALSO GET NOTIFIED AS TO WHERE THEIR INVESTIGATION AND HOW THE OUTCOME OF THE CASE HAS BEEN RENDERED. WE'RE MAKING THOSE NECESSARY CHANGES. I HAVE LIEUTENANT COLONEL NICK OWEN HERE ALSO. SO WHO CAN SPEAK THAT WHEN WE FIRST ARRIVED HERE IN LOUISVILLE AND I SPEAK FOR MYSELF IN 2021? WE WERE BACK LAW WITH 70 INVESTIGATIONS, AND WE HAD TO FIGURE OUT A NEW PROCESS AND WORK THROUGH THOSE INVESTIGATIONS TO GET US WHERE WE ARE TODAY. WHEN WE SPEAK ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY. LAST YEAR ALONE, WE OPENED 82 INVESTIGATIONS COMPARED TO 46 IN 2022. WE ARE TAKING THE INITIATIVE TO INVESTIGATE INFRACTIONS WITHIN OUR OWN DEPARTMENT SO THAT WE CAN CORRECT THAT BEHAVIOR. THIS IS A NEW LNPD A NEW MINDSET, A NEW CULTURE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ESTABLISH HERE, AND WE'RE DOING JUST THAT. MY JOB, AND I TELL ALL OF MY COMMANDERS THEIR JOB IS TO ENSURE THAT OFFICERS ARE ABLE TO HAVE A SUCCESSFUL CAREER AND THEREFORE SOMETIMES ALONG THIS JOURNEY, DISCIPLINE MUST BE RENDERED. AND WE'RE DOING JUST THAT. WITHIN. THERE'S ANOTHER, UM STATEMENT THAT WAS MADE ABOUT THE SUPERVISORY FILES. I. I WILL LET YOU KNOW THAT THE PREVIOUS CONTRACT HAD IN THERE THAT SUPERVISORY FILES MAY BE RETAINED. WE HAVE CHANGED THAT. TO SHALL BE RETAINED. AGAIN. WE'RE IN A DIFFERENT MINDSET TO ENSURE THAT SUPERVISORS ARE DOING THEIR PART, AND WE ARE MAINTAINING THOSE FILES WITHIN THAT ONE YEAR WITHIN THAT EMPLOYEES PERFORMING EVALUATION PROCESS THERE AFTER THAT, IT WILL BE DESTROYED AND WE ARE FOLLOWING THE KENTUCKY DEPARTMENT LIBRARIES AND ARCHIVES. WE'RE FOLLOWING THEIR RECOMMENDATION AND THEIR PROCESS AGAIN. WE WANNA BE TRANSPARENT.THE DOJ HAS ALSO MENTION THAT POOR SUPERVISION HAS LED TO A LOT OF OUR INVESTIGATIONS AND A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN MISSED ALONG THIS JOURNEY. OUR GOAL IS TO ENSURE THAT WE CORRECT THOSE BEHAVIORS AND WE'RE DOING JUST THAT. AND SO I WANT TO ALSO STRESS TODAY AS WELL. THERE WAS ANOTHER ISSUE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP THAT THE CHIEF AUTHORITY HAS BEEN EXPANDED, UM, FOR HOLLY SENSITIVE POSITIONS I WOULD SUBMIT TO YOU THAT I SHOULD HAVE THE DISCRETION IN ORDER TO PLACE THOSE INDIVIDUALS IN POSITIONS THAT SHOULD BE AND CAN DO THE JOB CORRECTLY. AND IF THEY DO NOT, THEN I SHOULD BE ABLE TO REMOVE THEM IMMEDIATELY WITHOUT WAITING A 10 DAY, INVOLUNTARY TRANSFER OR ANY ADDITIONAL PROCESS. THAT IS WHAT THAT IS ABOUT, BECAUSE WE GOT TO GET IT RIGHT. WE MUST MAKE THOSE EFFECTIVE CHANGES FOR OUR DEPARTMENT AND THE COMMUNITY HERE IS REQUIRING OF THAT. I NUMEROUS TIMES CHIEF. WE WANT A STRONG DEPARTMENT. WE WANT A GREAT DEPARTMENT, BUT WE WANT A DEPARTMENT THAT WE CAN BE PROUD OF. AND IF I DON'T RUN THIS DEPARTMENT IN THAT MANNER, THEY SHOULD HOLD ME ACCOUNTABLE. BUT WE ARE DOING OUR PART. WE ARE CHANGING THE WAY WE POLICE. WE'RE CHANGING THE WAY HOW WE INTERACT WITH THIS COMMUNITY. WE ARE BEING UPFRONT. WE'RE BEING MORE APPROACHABLE AND ACCESSIBLE NEW INITIATIVES. I'M DEMANDING THE OFFICERS TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE BEING PROFESSIONAL. ALL THE TIMES. AND IF THEY DON'T, I WILL HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE. THAT IS THIS IS YOUR LNPD. THIS IS YOUR NEW WAY OF LOOKING AT YOUR DEPARTMENT AND BY YOUR SUPPORT WITHIN THIS CONTRACT, YOU'RE SENDING A STRONG MESSAGE. A STRONG MESSAGE TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE BEHIND OUR OUR POLICE OFFICERS, BUT YET ENSURING THAT THEY'RE DOING IT THE PROPER WAY. THANK YOU. I THINK WE HAVE, UM ANGIE DUNN OR AARON JACKSON. HI. GOOD AFTERNOON, ANGELA DUNN CFO WITH THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT BUDGET. I'M JUST GONNA OFFER A COUPLE OF FINANCIAL HIGHLIGHTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS CONTRACT. UH, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE OFFICERS AND SERGEANTS CONTRACT. IT COVERS APPROXIMATELY 1250 POSITIONS. IT'S A FOUR YEAR CONTRACT FROM FY 24 TO FY 27 FOR FOUR YEAR CONTRACT. OBVIOUSLY YOU KNOW, HELPS PROVIDE PREDICTABILITY FOR BUDGETING PURPOSES. UM IT
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INCLUDED OUR COLAS AND STEPS AND SO FOR, UH, YEARS FY 24 TO 27 IN FR 24. IT CALLS FOR A 7% WAGE INCREASE AND THEN A 5% WAGE INCREASE FOR EACH YEAR. 2526 AND 27. THE TOTAL COST OF THIS CONTRACT. IS 325.5 MILLION WITHOUT FRINGES. THAT'S OVER THE COURSE OF THE FOUR YEARS AND 479.8 MILLION WITH FRINGES. AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. YOU CAN HAVE A SEAT. WELL UM, JUST IF SOMEONE HAS A QUESTION, AND YOU CAN ANSWER TO IT, THEN WE'LL JUST CALL YOU BACK UP DAVID KAPLAN. CHIEF OR STAFF FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. WANNA SPEAK? ON BEHALF OF THE CONTRACT. OK OK. UM GREGORY STANFORD FROM A LABOR RELATIONS NEGOTIATOR. AVAILABLE.OK? SALES AND CUTE. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. JUST ME. SO UM, I GUESS THIS ONE'S PROBABLY FOR THE CHIEF. UM, PLEASE ADVISE. WHAT THE EFFECTIVE DATE COMMUNICATED ORIGINALLY SHOWED JULY THE 1ST 2023. AND SOMEBODY. SO THE NEGOTIATIONS THEY TOOK EIGHT MONTHS THEY TOOK. THAT'S WHEN THE OLD CONTRACT EXPIRED, AND THEN WE BEGAN THE NEGOTIATION PROCESS. THE MAYOR HAS MADE VERY CLEAR. UM AND AGAIN THAT HE REALLY WANTED THE CONTRACTS, UM, TO MOVE AT A AT A FASTER CLIP. UM, BUT AGAIN. THE NEW ADMINISTRATION AND MAKING SURE THAT ALL THINGS CAME TOGETHER. UM NOW WE'RE HERE. UM BUT AGAIN, WE NEGOTIATED IN GOOD FAITH, UM, NEGOTIATED FAIRLY, UM , TO HAVE A VERY POSITIVE OUTCOME. UM, SO AGAIN, AND THIS IS NOT THIS IS NOTHING NEW, UM, ON SOME PREVIOUS CONTRACTS BEFORE, UM AS WELL, YOU KNOW, SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, UM, WHEN A CONTRACT HAS EXPIRED, AND WE'VE ENTERED INTO A NEW ONE, IT ALWAYS GOES BACK TO, UM, THE EXPIRATION DATE OF THE OLD ONE. AND THAT'S WHY OFFICERS WILL RECEIVE WHATEVER BACK PAY THAT LOOKS LIKE OK, UM, IT STATES THAT BOTH THAT BOTH CONTRACTS WERE APPROVED BY MORE THAN 90% OF THOSE VOTING. CAN YOU ADVISE HOW MANY PEOPLE VOTED? HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN FAVOR OF THE CONTRACT AND HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE AGAINST IT. AND I'M GONNA YIELD. UM IF YOU DON'T MIND TO OUR FOP PRESIDENT. I THINK IT'S FITTING FOR HIM TO SHARE. AND CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR DATE FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? YES, MA'AM. I'M RYAN NICHOLS, PRESIDENT OF THE RIVER CITY FRATERNAL ORDER OF POLICE. AND IF YOU GIVE ME JUST A MOMENT, I'LL TRY TO FIND THOSE NUMBERS FOR YOU. OK, GREAT.
ALL RIGHT FOR THE OFFICERS AND SERGEANTS CONTRACT. WHEN THAT WAS PRESENTED FOR A VOTE, WE HAD 942 MEMBERS ELIGIBLE TO VOTE. 790 OF THOSE MEMBERS DID ACTUALLY VOTE. 710 VOTED YES. 80 VOTED NO. FOR THE CAPTAINS AND LIEUTENANTS CONTRACT. WE HAD 61 MEMBERS ELIGIBLE TO VOTE. 57 MEMBERS DID IN FACT, VOTE 52 VOTED YES. FIVE VOTED NO. OK? UM CAN YOU CLARIFY WHAT AUTHORIZED STRENGTH IS THAT WAS HIS CONTRACT. 1328 IS OUR AUTHORIZED STRENGTH. OUR CURRENT WHAT WAS IT? WHAT WAS THE AUTHORIZED STRENGTH IS 1328. IN OUR CURRENT STAFFING. IS 10 OUT WHAT? 1000 61. OK? UM IT'S GONNA BE MY LAST QUESTION. AND THEN I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND LET SOMEONE IN THE QUEUE DEFINE THE PROCESS OF MISCONDUCT. IS THERE A CLEAR STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE SOP FOR HOW DIFFERENT LEVELS OF MISCONDUCT WOULD BE HANDLED IN APPROPRIATE DISCIPLINARY ACTIONS THAT WILL FOLLOW. AS WELL AS HOW MANY DISCIPLINARY MARKS DOES EACH OFFICER GET? AFFORDED.
BEFORE. UM, YOU KNOW, AFFORDABLE FORCE SUSPENSION SUSPENSIONS WITHOUT PAY AND THE TERMINATION IS IMPLEMENTED. WHAT DOES THAT PROCESS LOOK LIKE? AS I STATED BEFORE, I'M GOING TO TURN IT
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OVER TO COLONEL, UM OWENS, UH, AS I STATED BEFORE. ANYONE CAN MAKE A COMPLAINT AND THEN WE WOULD TAKE THAT COMPLAINT AND INVESTIGATE IT AND SEE DOES IT YIELD TO, UM, AN INFRACTION WHERE THE OFFICER HAS VIOLATED A POLICY OR IF THERE IS SOMETHING IN CRIMINAL IN NATURE, WE WILL INVESTIGATE THAT. BUT ALSO TOO WE DO OUR OWN INTERNAL AUDIT INVESTIGATION. IF A SUPERVISOR HAS WITNESSED OR HAVE IDENTIFIED AN INFRACTION. THEN AGAIN, THAT PARTICULAR COMPLAINT CAN GO FORWARD AND I WILL APPROVE THE INITIATION ON THAT INVESTIGATION. I AM THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN CREATE A COMPLAINT. THEY CAN MAKE A REQUEST TO ME, AND THEN I CAN APPROVE THAT INITIATION. I ALSO, UM ADVISE. WE HAVE A DISCIPLINARY MATRIX. THIS DEPARTMENT DID NOT HAVE A DISCIPLINARY MATRIX WHEN I CAME TO THIS DEPARTMENT. NOW THE DISCIPLINARY MATRIX IS IN PLACE, AND IT HAS BEEN IN PLACE OPERATING OVER 2.5 YEARS NOW WHERE OFFICERS UNDERSTAND WHERE AN INFRACTION FALLS. AND WHAT IS THAT DISCIPLINE AND WHAT THAT CATEGORY WILL YIELD. IF THEY'RE FOUND TO BE IN VIOLATION OF THAT POLICY, SO IT'S VERY CLEAR, UM, WITHIN THOSE SCOPES, AND THEN THERE'S UM AGGRAVATED CIRCUMSTANCES THAT PUSHES THAT DISCIPLINE UP A LEVEL. IT IS ALSO CLEAR AND THAT IS HOW WE RENDER AN ISSUE OUT. DISCIPLINE. NO ONES. UH, SURE. I'M NICK OWEN . I'M THE ASSISTANT CHIEF OF POLICE FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE BUREAU. UM, AS IT PERTAINS TO THIS CONVERSATION, I'M THE FORMER COMMANDER OF THE SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS DIVISION, WHICH IS BASED OUR INTERNAL AFFAIRS. UH, TO YOUR QUESTION, MA'AM. IT IT'S UM IT'S NOT QUITE AS SIMPLE AS AS A NUMBER OF MARKS SO TO SPEAK. YOU KNOW IF YOU ARE DISCIPLINED, YOU KNOW YOU GET A CHECK FOR THE FIRST TIME. ANOTHER CHECK FOR THE SECOND TIME. THE THIRD TIME SOMETHING IS INVOKED. IT'S ALL BASED ON THE SEVERITY OF THE UNDERLYING OFFENSE. RIGHT SO WE USE PROGRESSIVE DISCIPLINE. UM AND WE ALSO KEEP IN MIND THAT, UM, FOR THAT PROGRESSIVE DISCIPLINE, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE UNDERLYING OFFENSE IS, WE CAN USE THAT OFFENSE, IF THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL TRANSGRESSION IN YEARS TO COME, WE CAN USE THAT IN CONSIDERATION OF WHAT THE PUNISHMENT IS GOING TO BE. BUT ALSO IF IT'S A MINOR OFFENSE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HOLD THAT OVER. AN OFFICER'S HEAD FOR YOU KNOW THE NEXT 15 YEARS OF THEIR CAREER. YOU KNOW WHEN IT COMES TO PROGRESSIVE DISCIPLINE, UM LET ME STOP YOU RIGHT THERE. WHAT DO YOU CONSIDER MINOR? UH, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD AND AS CHIEF ALLUDED TO WE HAVE A DISCIPLINARY MATRIX, WHICH, UM, THE INTENTION BEHIND THAT IS SO NOT JUST OFFICERS, BUT ALSO THE CHIEF AND THE COMMAND STAFF. CAN CAN I HAVE A ROADMAP TO DISCIPLINE? BASICALLY A MINOR INFRACTION? COULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, SHOWING UP LATE TO WORK. UM UH, IF YOU'RE YOUR SUPERVISOR , NOT GENERALLY, THE WAY THAT WOULD BE HANDLED IS INFORMALLY. YOUR SUPERVISOR MAY, UM AS CHIEF ALLUDED TO HAVE SUPERVISORY FILES. UH, THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT. WHERE, UM, IF, IF A MEMBER SHOWS UP LATE TO WORK ONE TIME. UM THAT DOESN'T WARRANT DISCIPLINE PER SE, BUT IT WARRANTS CORRECTION, AND THAT SUPERVISOR MADE DOCUMENT THAT IN IN THE SUPERVISOR FILES THAT ARE ALLUDED TO IN THIS CONTRACT. UM IF IT BECOMES A REPEATED ISSUE, THEN THEN THAT DOCUMENTATION THE SUPERVISORY FILE CAN THEN BE PUT IN THEIR PERFORMANCE OBSERVATION THERE, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE YEAR HOW THEY'RE PERFORMING, SO THAT WOULD BE LIKE ONE EXAMPLE OF A MINOR POLICY VIOLATION. MINOR POLICY VIOLATIONS FOR US ARE PRETTY MUCH GONNA BE THE SAME AS IT WOULD BE FOR THE REST OF THE METRO. RENTER CORPORATE AMERICA OR, YOU KNOW THE TARDINESS, UM, ACCURACY AND WORK. UM YOU KNOW THINGS OF THAT NATURE, UM, RESPONDING TO EMAILS IN A TIMELY MANNER, STUFF LIKE THAT. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THAT PROGRESSION, UM GOES UP, UM THROUGHOUT THE MATRIX. OK, I JUST WANTED TO, UM THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. THAT MAN THAT, UH WHAT YOU MEANT BY MINOR. UM SO I HAVE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER SCOTT REED. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY, UH, COUNCILMAN DONNA BURS. I THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR AND, UH, QUESTION IS FOR THE CHIEF, YOU KNOW. ONE OF THE THINGS I'M GONNA MAKE A LITTLE BIT OF A STATEMENT FIRST, AND THEN I'LL ASK A QUESTION.THAT THAT I HEAR, AND I KNOW MY COLLEAGUES DO AS WELL, UH FROM CONSTITUENTS IS LIKE YOU SAID A MINUTE AGO. WHERE'S THE POLICE PRESENCE? AND YOU JUST ANSWERED THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE POLICE PRESENCE. WE DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS AT THE MOMENT TO PATROL THE STREETS, UH, TO WRITE TICKETS WHEN PEOPLE ARE DRIVING LIKE MANIACS, WHICH IS GOING ON ALL OVER THE CITY. UM LET ME ASK YOU JUST 11. VERY SIMPLE QUESTION WITH THIS CONTRACT, UM IS OUR PAY LEVEL NOW AT A COMMENSURATE LEVEL WITH IN YOUR OPINION, PEER CITIES AND SUBURBAN CITIES BECAUSE IN THE PAST WE'VE PUT PEOPLE THROUGH TRAINING CLASS. THEY GRADUATED, AND THEN THEY'VE GONE ON TO, YOU KNOW, PICK A CITY UH, CINCINNATI BECAUSE THEY MAKE $5000 MORE A YEAR TO ONE OF OUR SUBURBAN CITIES HERE. ARE WE COMPETITIVE NOW IN A GOOD POSITION SO THAT THOSE KIND OF THINGS DON'T
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HAPPEN. YES, SIR. I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE NUMBERS. UM I AM ALSO COMFORTABLE THAT THIS CONTRACT UM THE SALARY IN WHICH I'M HOPING THAT YOU ALL WILL APPROVE AND MOVE FORWARD WILL ATTRACT THOSE OFFICERS WHO EVEN LEFT LNPD TO GO TO THOSE OTHER SUBURBAN AGENCIES. I HATE TO DREAM FROM THEM, BUT I'M I'M BEING SELFISH RIGHT NOW. THEY NEED TO COME ON BACK HOME. I'VE TOLD SOME OFFICERS WHO HAVE LEFT I WAS VERY UPFRONT WITH THEM. UM NOW IS THE TIME TO COME ON BACK, UM, TO YOUR HOME AGENCY. UM, BETTER PAY. UM BETTER SUPERVISION IS IN PLACE AND THIS COMMUNITY AS YOU SEE FEEL WITHIN THIS COUNCIL CHAMBERS IS BEHIND YOU. UM SO THAT WE CAN BE, UM, ONE OF THE BEST LEADING AGENCIES IN THIS NATION, SO I'M VERY UPFRONT WITH THAT. AND LET ME LET ME SAY THIS COUNCILMAN REED IF I'M NOT ONE OF THE BIGGEST RECRUITERS, UM, WITHIN THIS AGENCY THAT I DON'T NEED TO BE SITTING IN THIS SEAT. UM WE WERE DOING A STOP THE VIOLENCE INITIATIVE, AND THERE WERE COMMUNITY MEMBERS OUT THERE AND MY COLLEAGUES AND EMPLOYEES CAN ATTEST TO THIS. THERE WAS A YOUNG MAN, UM, THAT CAME AFRICAN AMERICAN YOUNG MAN THAT WAS STANDING IN FRONT OF THE TABLE WITH HIS MOTHER AND I LOOKED AT HIM. I SAID, ARE YOU INTERESTED IN JOINING? AND I'M HAPPY TO SAY BEFORE HE LEFT, HE WHISPERED IN MY EAR. WHERE DO I SIGN UP? I HAVE TO BE THE BIGGEST RECRUITER , UM, IN ORDER FOR US TO GET THE NUMBERS THAT WE NEED IN ORDER FOR US TO, UM, DO COMMUNITY POLICING ON ANOTHER LEVEL, UH, WITHIN LOUISVILLE, AND IT'S RIGHT FOR LOUISVILLE. OK? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. NEXT IN THE QUEUE, AND WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER SHAMIKA PARISH WRIGHT. THANK YOU, CHAIRWOMAN. UM GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. I CAN'T SEE THE WHOLE AUDIENCE. I, UM, BUT I'M GLAD THAT PEOPLE ARE THERE. THIS IS IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY. I LIKE MY COLLEAGUES WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT, AND THEN I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. I'VE NARROWED IT DOWN. UM SO PLEASE BEAR WITH ME. I UM, APPRECIATE THE CHIEF STARTING THE CONVERSATION WITH, UM, BETTER PAY AND ALSO INCLUDING BETTER MANAGEMENT.BETTER SUPERVISION. UM I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. WE NEED BETTER ACCOUNTABILITY. I THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT MOST PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR. I REMEMBER WHEN WE HAD OUR SPECIAL MEETING. A LOT OF PEOPLE COMMENTED ABOUT THE PAY AND FOR MOST OF US, MYSELF AND THE A LOT OF THE PEOPLE I TALKED TO THE PAY WASN'T NECESSARILY WHERE WE WERE GETTING HUNG UP WITH THIS. UM, WE NEEDED A CHIEF TO PUT A BETTER PUT US ON A BETTER PATH. I THINK IT STARTED WITH INTERIM CHIEF YVETTE GENTRY. I THINK IT WAS DISRUPTED BY FORMER CHIEF SHIELDS. AND I THINK THAT YOU, UM CHIEF VILLA ARE TRYING TO PUT IT BACK TOGETHER. AND AS YOU EXPLAINED TO ME IN PERSON WHEN I MET YOU UM AT THE AT YOUR DISTRICT OFFICE. YOU ARE INTERESTED IN CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING. THE DOJ ALSO MENTIONED CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING IN THE MOST RECENT MEETING. WHAT I'VE BEEN PULLING FROM PEOPLE ON THE BIGGEST ISSUES, AND I THINK COUNCILMAN REID TOUCHED ON SOME OF THAT, AND WE UNDERSTAND MORE NOW THAT YOU TALK ABOUT THE GAPS , BUT, UM THE COMPLAINTS THAT PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT. MOSTLY ARE PEOPLE NOT SHOWING UP? UM OFFICER COMPLAINTS AND YOU WENT OVER THAT ON HOW TO FILE THOSE PARTS OF THE CONTRACT TALKS ABOUT UH, THE OFFICER COMPLAINS AND HAVING THE OPTION. WE THINK THAT HAVING AN OPTION WHERE, UM, SOME OF THE CAPACITY CAN BE TURNED OVER TO THE OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL TO THE DOJ MONITOR. WHEN THAT PERSON COMES ON, OR TO AN ENTITY THAT HAS THE CAPACITY, IT'S BEEN A LOT OF POLICE POLICING THEMSELVES. AND WE HAVE. THE COMMUNITY HASN'T SEEN A LOT OF ACCOUNTABILITY AND THAT'S THAT'S WHY THIS IS AN ISSUE AND IT'S NOT SO MUCH ABOUT THE PAY. BUT WE HAVE ONE OF THE MOST PAID WELL RESPECTED, WELL PROTECTED WORKFORCES AND I WOULD HOPE THAT EVERYONE THAT IS EMPLOYED BY METRO GOVERNMENT WOULD HAVE THE SAME PROVISIONS AND OPTIONS. AND UM, SO ANYWAY, MY QUESTIONS ARE AROUND. HAVE WE EVER SEEN A TIME WHERE WE HAD 12 ? YOU SAID 1250 TO 1328 OFFICERS . HAS THERE BEEN A TIME WHERE WE HAD THOSE MANY OFFICERS. UM AND I'M GLAD THAT WE WENT OVER WHAT THIS WILL COST US OVER FOUR YEARS. THAT WAS ALSO ONE OF MY QUESTIONS AND AFTER DOING THE DISTRICT, THE DIVISION FOR RIDE ALONG I SAW SOME ISSUES AROUND THE CALL TIME RESPONSES AND WHY IT WAS LIKE THAT. UM AND THEN ALSO SEEING THAT THERE'S ALSO BEEN TRAINING INSTITUTED. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S CULTURAL AWARENESS. THERE'S FAIRNESS AND EQUITY IN THAT TRAINING, AND I DIDN'T SEE A SPECIFIC LINE ITEM FOR THE TRAINING IN THE BUDGET. BUT I THINK THAT THAT IS IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT BECAUSE WE WANT THE BEST TRAINED, TRUSTED POLICE FORCE AND YOU CANNOT HAVE THAT
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IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED IN HOW PEOPLE ARE BEING HANDLED IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION WOULD BE AROUND. UM I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THE PARKING BUT THE FOP BEING A DOLLAR. UM, I HAVE NO ISSUE. UM WITH THE POSITIONS, UM, BEING EXEMPT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU ARE ABLE TO CHOOSE THE RIGHT PEOPLE FOR THESE POSITIONS . I JUST ASK THAT THERE'S A, UH SOME EQUITY AND EVEN IN THE LANGUAGE IN THE CONTRACT, IT IS VERY IT'S NOT GENDER NEUTRAL.IT'S SAYING HE IS SAYING THE POLICE CHIEF OR IN HIS REFERENCE , AND HE IT DOESN'T EVEN REFERENCE YOU AS THE AS THE BLACK WOMAN POLICE CHIEF YOU ARE , AND I THINK THAT JUST SHOWS THAT WE JUST WE HAVE TO. WE HAVE SO MUCH THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT AROUND. UM SO, YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I WE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT THE BEING DISCIPLINED THAT THERE'S MORE CLARITY AROUND THAT, AND YOU SPOKE AROUND THAT WE WANT TO PROPOSE THAT, LIKE I SAID THE INVESTIGATION WHEN IT'S WHEN IT'S ABLE TO BE PASSED ON TO THE CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD AS INSPECTOR GENERAL, THE DOJ MONITOR AS IF ABLE TO BE. AND THEN HOW DOES THIS CHANGE? COMPARE THE CHANGES YOU ALL PROPOSED COMPARED TO THE KS 67 C? OK? THANK YOU, COUNCILOR WOMAN, SO I WILL START OFF WITH HAS THE DEPARTMENT SEEN A 1200 STAFFING LEVEL? YES, MA'AM. IN 2020. THE DEPARTMENT WAS A LITTLE OVER 1200 DURING 2020. WE LOST 220 OFFICERS. AND SO WHEN COMMUNITY MEMBERS ASK AND STATE I USED TO SEE OFFICERS IN MY COMMUNITY I USED TO SEE THEM WRITING THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT AT A TIME WHEN THE STAFFING LEVELS WERE THERE. WHERE WE WERE A LITTLE BIT HEALTHIER. WE WERE A LITTLE BIT MORE ROBUST, AND SO YOU'RE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE OFFICERS TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY IN A MANNER IN WHICH I WANT AND I ENCOURAGE THAT. AND I'M HOPING THAT WITHIN THIS THIS CONTRACT, UM BEING SO ATTRACTIVE THAT WE CAN BRING OFFICERS ON, UM AND SAY, OK, COME ON. LET'S GET THIS DONE. BECAUSE IF YOU WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT A COUNCILWOMAN, UM SHAMIKA. IF I HAD THOSE 200, I CAN SET UP A FOOT BEAT. AND EACH DIVISION. IT AT LEAST ON TWO PLATOONS, AND THEREFORE THEY CAN NAVIGATE AND ACTUALLY DO MORE OF THE COMMUNITY WORK IN WHICH THE COMMUNITY WANTS AND WHICH I WANT , AND THAT IS A DIFFERENT THAT IS ANOTHER LAYER OF CONNECTING.
SO DO YOU KNOW WHO IS POLICING IN YOUR AREA? SO THAT'S ONE AND SO AGAIN. YES, MA'AM. WE WERE AT THAT LEVEL AT ONE TIME. UM WHEN YOU MENTIONED THE TRAINING UM AND GOING OVER AND MAKING SURE THAT WE THE OFFICERS ARE AWARE OF EQUITY AND DIVERSITY AND SO FORTH. I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT THIS CLASS THAT GRADUATED TODAY WAS THE FIRST CLASS EVER WITHIN LNP D'S HISTORY THAT I WAS ABLE TO GET FUNDED AND SEND EVERY SENIOR CLASS MEMBER WITHIN THAT CLASS TO WASHINGTON, DC TO GO AND VISIT THE AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSEUM. THE HOLOCAUST MUSEUM AND THE LAW ENFORCEMENT. PROCEDURAL JUSTICE I NEED FOR YOU TO GO AND SEE. I NEED FOR YOU TO CONNECT SO THAT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO POLICE WITH COMPASSION. WE'RE ASKING YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE MEMBERS THAT HAVE HAD TRAUMA AND THAT YOU MAY HAVE EXPERIENCED SOME TRAUMA. YOU WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND IT REALLY CHANGED THEIR THINKING. BECAUSE SOME OF THEM HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCED, UM OTHER RACES AND SO AGAIN, THEY'RE COMING INTO A PROFESSION AND WE'RE SAYING THIS IS I WANT YOU TO RESPOND IN THIS MANNER. BUT I NEED FOR YOU TO KNOW THE HISTORY BEHIND IT. THAT'S AND THAT'S ANOTHER LAYER OF DOING TRAINING DIFFERENTLY AND DOING IT BETTER AND THINKING OUTSIDE OF THE BOX.
AND SO THAT CLASS TODAY GRADUATED HAD THAT EXPERIENCE AND WITH, UM THEY HAD A HIGHLY SENSITIVE POSITIONS AND HAVING AND BEING ABLE TO CHOOSE THOSE INDIVIDUALS. I WILL ASSURE YOU THAT I WILL USE MY DISCRETION AND MAKING SURE THAT DIVERSITY IS THERE AND THAT THE EQUITY IS PRESENT. UM BUT I WANNA ALSO TO STATE I NEED THE BEST PEOPLE. I NEED THE BEST INDIVIDUALS IN THOSE POSITIONS THAT KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING. UM SURE WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND UNDERSTAND THE VISION AND THE MISSION OF THIS DEPARTMENT AND WHERE I NEEDED FOR IT TO GO, BUT I WOULD ASSURE YOU THAT WOULD BE THERE AND IT HAS BEEN THERE. OK AND THE 67 C MIGHT TAKE A DIFFERENT TURN. UH, I WANNA SAY THAT I SAW THE MENTAL HEALTH CHECK AND I THINK THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. AND SINCE YOU BROUGHT UP 2020 THE DECLINE OF THE POLICE FORCE, I DIDN'T SEE A TIMELINE IN THE CONTRACT FOR THE MANDATORY MENTAL HEALTH CHECKUPS. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL ARE WORKING ON? BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THAT IS ALSO A HUGE NEED.
ABSOLUTELY ABSOLUTELY. AND UM WE'LL COLLABORATE TOGETHER AS A STATED, UM, IN THERE, UM, TOGETHER. TO COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, UM, WE NOW HAVE, UM,
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PROFESSIONALS ON STAFF WITH US, UM, WORKING AT THE WELLNESS CENTER, SO WE'RE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THAT. UM BUT ALSO TOO WE, UM FROM THE TOP ON DOWN MYSELF ON DOWN, STRESSING THAT OUR OFFICERS, UM, NEED TO HAVE THOSE CHECK INS AND THAT WE WANT ALL OF OUR OFFICERS TO BE MENTALLY, UM, PHYSICALLY, SOCIALLY, SPIRITUALLY AND FINANCIALLY. WELL UM, BECAUSE WHO WE PUTTING OUT ON THE STREET? IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW THEY'RE ENGAGED TO COMMUNITY. AND SO ALL OF THAT IS ENCOMPASSED WITHIN THAT, AND SO I'M I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT WE WILL GET TO THAT, UM, AGREEMENT AND SO THAT IT WILL BENEFIT ALL OF YOUR OFFICERS THAT SERVE. UM, BUT THEN IT MAKES SENSE AND THAT WE DON'T HAVE THIS STIGMA BEHIND IT THAT WE'RE SHYING AWAY FROM MENTAL, UM, HEALTH BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT PART AND ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE DOING THIS TYPE OF WORK. THANK YOU, CHIEF. WE HAVE, UM COM UH, VICE PRESIDENT DANS THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. I HAVE A QUESTION. UM YEAH. AUTHORIZED PERSONNEL IS 1328. YOU HAVE 1067? HOW DO YOU GET TO THE 1328? I'VE HEARD THAT WE'RE SHORT A WHOLE LOT MORE PER CAPITA IS WHEN IT COMES TO OTHER MAJOR CITIES. COULD YOU TELL ME HOW YOU GET TO THE 1 1328 THAT AUTHORIZED STRENGTH WAS IN PLACE WHEN I ARRIVED HERE, AND I'M SURE IT WAS BASED UPON WHATEVER STUDY OR STATUS STATUS OF STUDY THEY HAD PRIOR TO AND THAT IS WHY WE ARE PUTTING OUT AN RFP TO GET AN ACCURATE STUDY AS TO WHAT WE NEED TO HAVE FOR LNPD. IT MAY BE NOW, 1600. IT MAY BE 1700, BUT WE DON'T KNOW. UM AND SO WE NEED SOMEONE WITH THE WITH THE EXPERTISE TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE NUMBERS. UM TO LOOK AT, UM ALL OF THE SENSES TO LOOK AT, UM THE CALL FOR SERVICE AND TRULY GIVE US UM THE ANALYSIS NEEDED TO TELL US WHAT DOES YOUR DEPARTMENT AUTHORIZED STRENGTH? WHAT SHOULD IT LOOK LIKE? WHEN WILL THOSE NUMBERS COME IN? WHEN HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH. YES, SIR. OK IT STATES THAT, UM LMG AND THE FOP WILL COLLABORATE TO DEVELOP A MENTAL AND PHYSICAL SCREENING PROGRAM FOR LNPD. WHEN CAN WE EXPECT FOR THAT TO BE DEVELOPED? WHERE JEFFREY. YOU COME UP TO THE HEART. OK, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THERE'S THE WELLNESS CENTER COMING ONLINE WITH OUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF MEMBERS, UM, COMING INTO PLAY.UM, HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THOSE DISCUSSIONS ROLLING. OK UM IN RO 37-24 SPECIFICALLY ARTICLE 10 ASSIGNMENTS, SECTION THREE HALLEY SENSITIVE POSITIONS. IT STATES THAT THE CHIEF RESERVES THE RIGHT TO APPOINT MEMBERS TO THE FOLLOWING HALLEY SENSITIVE POSITIONS WITH THEM, POSTING THE VACANCIES AND NOT ON THE BASIS OF SENIORITY OR INTERVIEWS. THEN IT THEN, UM PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICERS, PUBLIC INTEGRITY UNIT PROFESSIONAL STANDARD UNITS, UM EXECUTIVE STAFF LEGAL AD ADVISORS, MAYORS, SECURITY DETAIL AND OF IN ANY OTHER NEWLY CREATED HIGHLY SENSITIVE POSITIONS AS DESIGNATED BY THE CHIEF. THERE WILL BE THIS WILL BE DONE IN SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES . CAN YOU ADVISE ME WHY THESE POSITIONS ARE NOT OPEN TO THE DEPARTMENT ON THE BASIS ON SENIORITY OR TO APPLY FOR INTERVIEW TO BE CONDUCTED? I JUST I AS I STATED TO COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, RIGHT. I RESERVE THAT RIGHT? UM, IN ORDER TO CHOOSE THE BEST POSSIBLE PERSON TO FEEL THAT POSITION. UM WITH THE SKILL SET WITH THE KNOWLEDGE UM, AND WITH THE UNDERSTANDING IS WHAT IS EXPECTED OF THEM. UM AND IF THAT PERSON CANNOT FULFILL THE OBLIGATIONS WITHIN THAT POSITION, I HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMOVE THEM IMMEDIATELY. THERE'S NOT A PROCESS THEY AGAIN. THANK YOU. BUT THIS IS NOT THE POSITION FOR YOU. AND THEN WE WILL FIND THAT INDIVIDUAL. UM A NEW HOME. THAT IS IT. UM BUT AGAIN, IF THEY AIN'T DOING WHAT THEY SUPPOSED TO DO, OK, ALL RIGHT. UM I DON'T SEE ANY MORE SPEAKERS IN THE QUEUE. UM DO I HAVE ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL, UM COMMENTS. OK HERE ON THIS RESOLUTION. I DID WANNA ASK ANOTHER QUESTION. IT'S HARD ON. HOLD ON. HOLD ON ONE SECOND, MA'AM. UM COUNCILWOMAN SHAMIKA P, RIGHT? UM, YOU CAN GO AHEAD.
AND IF HOW MANY MORE QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE? JUST ONE. OK? UM AND I'VE TALKED TO THE CHIEF
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ABOUT THIS IN PERSON. I. I WANNA SAY THAT I CAME INTO READING THE CONTRACT AND CAME INTO THIS WANTING TO FIND THE REASONS TO SAY YES TO THIS, BUT THERE ARE SOME, UM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A BREAKDOWN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OVER UH, FOUR YEARS OF FUNDING. 325.4 MILLION, UM VERSUS WITH WITHOUT FRIENDS VERSUS 478.8 MILLION. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE OF A BREAKDOWN ON HOW THAT FUNDING WILL BE SPENT, AND I KNOW THAT'S HARD AND WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT AFTER THIS, BUT MY QUESTION IS, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THE CHIEF ABOUT, UM, THE INCENTIVE TO VOLUNTARY MOVE INTO THE AREAS AND YOU GAVE YOUR CONCERNS. I ALSO HAD THAT CONVERSATION WITH INSURANCE. UH, CHIEF YVETTE GENTRY. I WONDERING , THOUGH THERE ARE A GREAT DEAL OF PROGRAMS THAT SUPPORT SOCIAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND ARE EQUALLY IF NOT MORE UNDERFUNDED, UM DEPARTMENTS, PERHAPS AS AN INCENTIVE FOR HIRING AND RETAINING NON LNPD METRO EMPLOYEES WHO LIVE IN THESE AREAS LIKE SOCIAL WORKERS, LIBRARIANS AND PUBLIC HEALTH WORKERS WOULD I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SAY ANSWER THIS, BUT I THINK THAT THAT MONEY OR THAT FUNDING WOULD BE BETTER SPENT IN SUPPORTING THOSE FOLKS IN THAT AREA. IF YOU'RE GOING TO REMOVE THAT INCENTIVE, OR DO YOU SEE? I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT AND YOU SAID MAYBE IN THE FUTURE IF YOU CAN GET A COUPLE OF FOLKS TO DO IT TOGETHER, WHAT'S YOUR THINKING AROUND THAT NOW? I AGREE WITH YOU, UM, WHATEVER THAT FUNDING IS TO SUPPORT OTHER ENTITIES. I FULLY SUPPORT THAT A AGAIN. I STAND HERE. I I'M SUPPORTING ALL PUBLIC SAFETY INDIVIDUALS AND THOSE WHO ARE DOING THE WORK. UM LNPD IS NOT IN A POSITION TO BE A SILO ENTITY. UM AND NOR ARE WE JUST SELFISH IN ANY KIND OF WAY. I'M JUST PUSHING FOR THE BEST PAID POLICE OFFICERS THAT I CAN GET IN ORDER TO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY AND DO IT AT A STANDARD THAT IS THAT EVERYBODY WILL APPLAUD US AND BE PROUD OF. SO YES, MA'AM.I SUPPORT THAT MONEY BEING MOVED TO THOSE ENTITIES. UM IF THE MAYOR AND ADMINISTRATION UM DEEMED THAT IS NECESSARY, I'M FULLY SUPPORT OF THAT. THANK YOU. UM, I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS REAL QUICK. UM I MEAN, IT'S PUBLIC RECORDS. YOU KNOW, WE WORK PART TIME. AND UH UM THE POLICE WORKS FULL TIME AND PART TIME METRO COUNCIL MEMBERS MAKE CLOSE TO WHAT POLICE OFFICERS MAKE REGULAR AND THEY GOING OUT THERE EVERY DAY, PUTTING THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE. UM SO WITH THAT BEING SAID HER NONE. THIS IS THE RESOLUTION COLUMN FOR BOTH A VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. SAY A. I I'M ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAY OPPOSED. UM, NO, NO . AT THIS TIME, I HAVE SOME MORE. THANK YOU. BYE THE ITEM PASSES AND WILL BE MOVED TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. THAT'S IT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, EVERYONE. CLARK, CAN YOU PLEASE READ ITEM TWO INTO THE RECORD,
[2. R-038-24 A RESOLUTION RATIFYING AND APPROVING A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT (FROM THE DATE OF ITS APPROVAL THROUGH JUNE 30, 2027) BETWEEN LOUISVILLE/JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT AND THE RIVER CITY FRATERNAL ORDER OF POLICE LODGE NO. 614, RELATING TO WAGES, HOURS, AND OTHER TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT OF ITS LIEUTENANTS AND CAPTAINS OF LOUISVILLE METRO POLICE DEPARTMENT. Action Required By: October 2024 Sponsors: Markus Winkler (D-17), Rick Blackwell (D-12)]
PLEASE? A RESOLUTION RATIFYING AND APPROVING A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT FROM THE DATE OF ITS APPROVAL THROUGH JUNE. 30TH 2027 BETWEEN LOUIS JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT AND THE RIVER CITY FRATERNAL ORDER OF POLICE LOCKED IN FOR 614 RELATING TO WAGES, HOURS AND OTHER TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT I, ITS LIEUTENANTS AND CAPTAINS OF LOUIS METRO POLICE DEPARTMENT RIGHT IN FULL MOTION. WELL, I HAVE MY MOTION THERE. DO I HAVE A SECOND? OK ALL RIGHT. MOTION BY, UH, CHAIR DAN SIMS. SECOND BY, UH SHAMEKA WRIGHT PERS. THE ITEM HAS BEEN PROPERLY MOVED BY COMMITTEE MEMBERS. UM. YOU GUYS ARE GOOD. YEAH, Y'ALL GOOD.THANK YOU TO WHAT'S NEXT? SEE YOU, BUDDY. UM, IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK TO THIS? OK, WE'RE GOING TO FIND THE. OK, RICK IS DOCTOR RICK BLACKWELL. SO NO ONE'S GONNA SPEAK TO THIS.
NUMBER TWO OH, OH, YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND SPEAK TO THIS? AS TO THE CAPTAINS AND LIEUTENANTS.
IT'S AGAIN IT'S CHEAP, SAME THING CORRECT. IT'S JUST ADJUSTED LANGUAGE FOR THE CAPTAINS, LIEUTENANTS, A SUGGESTED PAY PAY SCALE. UM EVERYTHING ELSE IS LARGELY THE SAME. OK, I DON'T SEE ANY SPEAKERS IN THE QUEUE. UM HER. NO THIS IS THE RESOLUTION COLUMN . VO, UH, VOICE VOTE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. UH, ANY OPPOSED. BUT I DON'T PASS. THEY WON'T BE MOVED TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. CLARK, CAN YOU PLEASE READ ITEM FOUR INTO THE RECORD, PLEASE? WHAT ANIMAL YEAH, RIGHT. RIGHT, RIGHT. YEAH, WE DID. THE SECOND.
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NO. OK, SO DO YOU HEAR ME SAY THAT. THE FOURTH ITEM. THE FIRST ITEM WILL BE MOVED TO OLD BUSINESS. THANK YOU, CLERK. YEAH, GO AHEAD, PLEASE. BEFORE I CAMERA UPDATES. LIEUTENANT[4. ID 24-0211 FLOCK CAMERA UPDATES – Lieutenant Colonel Nicholas Owen, Major Cory Robinson, Jennifer Corum, Louisville Metro Police Department]
COLONEL NICHOLAS OWEN, UH, MAJOR , COREY ROBINSON, JENNIFER QUORUM. LOUISVILLE METRO POLICE DEPARTMENT. RED BULL. JIM. PLEASE. STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. YOUR TITLE. MY NAME IS JENNIFER QUORUM. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF LNP D'S REAL-TIME CRIME CENTER. WE CAN'T HEAR YOU, MA'AM. COULD YOU SPEAK UP? I'M SORRY. MY NAME IS JENNIFER QUORUM. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF L MP, D'S REAL TIME CRIME CENTER. YOU GOT 74. WE'RE HERE. UM WE WERE CONTACTED. I GUESS THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT FLOCK AND SOME UPDATES. UM MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE'S SOME QUESTION FROM VARIOUS COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT, UM, DELAYS IN IMPLEMENTATION AND DELAYS IN DEPLOYMENT. UM, I'M HAPPY TO REPORT. UM IF YOU WANT TO ELABORATE FURTHER, MISS CORN CAN DO SO A LOT OF THOSE ISSUES HAVE BEEN WORKED THROUGH. UH, THERE WERE SOME SOME TURNAROUND WITH WITH ACCOUNT MANAGEMENT, UM WITH FLOCK AND SOME ISSUES WITH CODES AND REGS AND GETTING PERMITS.UM, I'M HAPPY TO SAY THOSE HAVE ALL BEEN, UM, BEEN ADDRESSED. UM, I THINK ONE OF THE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS WAS, UH, AS IT PERTAINS TO HOW WE SELECT THE LOCATIONS FOR FLOCK CAMERAS. UM THAT'S PRETTY SIMPLE. UM MISS QUORUM, AND HER STAFF TALKED TO OFFICERS AND DETECTIVES, UM, AND BASICALLY COMPILE A LIST OF WHERE THEY THINK THESE CAMERAS WOULD BE MOST EFFECTIVE. UM SHE'LL THEN GO THROUGH THAT LIST AND KIND OF PARSE OUT. UM WHERE WE'RE GONNA GET THE MOST BANG FOR OUR BUCK, SO TO SPEAK, WHERE THERE'S GOING TO BE THE MOST TRAFFIC THE MOST READS, UH, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND THEN THAT KIND OF IS HOW WE RANK OUR LIST OF WHERE WE'RE GOING TO DEPLOY. CAMERAS YOU KNOW, FOR THE COMING YEAR FOR THE COMING TWO YEARS, HOWEVER LONG WE WANT TO PROJECT OUT, UM I MEAN, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT DEPLOYMENT, AND HOW THOSE DECISIONS ARE MADE, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. YEAH, I'M DEFINITELY WANNA ASK. SO UM, HOW DO YOU KNOW WHERE TO IDENTIFY? I MEAN, IS IT THE, UM, HOW DO YOU IDENTIFY THE LOCATIONS? TO IDENTIFY LOCATIONS. WE WILL LOOK AT CRIME PATTERNS, TRENDS, UH, TRAFFIC COUNTS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION WITHIN KENTUCKY, WHO HAVE THE TRAFFIC COUNTS ON THEIR THEIR WEBSITE. UM I USUALLY WILL SEND OUT AN EMAIL ASKING FOR REQUESTS FROM OFFICERS DETECTIVES, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO USE THE SYSTEM A LOT TO SEE WHERE THEY WISH WE WOULD HAVE HAD THOSE. UM AND THEN I ALSO ASKED THE ANALYSTS WITHIN REAL TIME CRIME. BECAUSE THEY'RE THEY REAL TIME THEY KNOW WHAT? WHERE YOU BLOCK IS WHERE EVERY CAMERA IS AND IF IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BENEFICIAL TO HAVE A LOCATION COVERED UM, WE ALSO GO THROUGH EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE AND LOOK TO SEE IF THE LOCATIONS THAT WE'VE SELECTED AND THAT OUR OPERATIONAL ARE BEING EFFECTIVE. UM IF NOT, WE CAN HAVE THOSE MOVED, UM, FOR A SMALL FEE AND, UM, MOVE THOSE TO A PLACE BETTER TRAFFIC. OK CAN YOU DEFINE FLA? UH, CAMERAS FOR ME, PLEASE? UM FLOCK DEVICES. THEY ARE LICENSE PLATE RECOGNITION CAMERAS. THEY'RE FIXED. UM SO THEY'RE NOT LIKE A VIDEO CAMERA. IT'S NOT STREAMING A LIVE VIDEO BACK TO ANYWHERE. IT'S TAKING SCREENSHOTS AND SNAPSHOTS OF VEHICLES AND LICENSE PLATES. AND JUST RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD. CAN YOU IDENTIFY SOME OF THE, UM, AREAS THAT, UM, SPECIFICALLY NEEDS THEM. YOU MEAN THAT WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE THEM. NO.
UH UH, THAT WE HAVE THEM. UM, LET ME ASK YOU THIS. HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN IN THIS ROLE? 10 YEARS. 10 YEARS? YEAH, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY YOU KNOW SOME OF THE HARD CORE AREAS THAT YOU HAVE CAMERAS? YES WE, UH WE HAVE, UM, MOST OF OUR CAMERAS, UH, FROM FLOCK ARE IN OUR FIRST DIVISION. UM AND OUR SIXTH DIVISION ALONG WITH OUR SECOND DIVISION. UM IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT COUNCIL DISTRICTS, UM THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS THAT HAVE THE MOST L MP D FUNDED UH, FLOCK DEVICES ARE THE FIFTH DIVISION FOURTH DIVISION. WHEN HE FIRST DIVISION OR DISTRICT APOLOGIZE, UM, SECOND IN 19. SO YOU SAID 4, 21, 2 AND 19. IS THAT CORRECT? UM 2456, 19 AND 21. SO 421 TO 19
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AND SIX YES, THEY'RE RIGHT. I'VE COUNCIL DISTRICTS. YES. DISTRICT ONE'S NOT ON THERE. THAT'S MY DISTRICT. IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE WORST DISTRICTS. OUT OF 26. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A FLAT CAMERA IN DISTRICT ONE THAT EVEN IF I NEED TO PAY FOR IT THERE ARE 44 FLOOP CAMERAS WITHIN YOUR DISTRICT. OH, IT IS. THOSE WERE JUST THE HIGHEST CONCENTRATION WE HAVE, UM 100 AND 36 CURRENTLY INSTALLED. UM I THINK WE HAVE ONE IN ALMOST EVERY SINGLE COUNCIL DISTRICT. UM THOSE WERE JUST THE ONES WITH THE HIGHEST CONCENTRATION. WE'RE THE ONES I LISTED, OK, AND HOW MUCH IS EACH FLOCK CAMERA? WITH OUR CONTRACT. IT'S $2500 PER CAMERA PER YEAR, PLUS ABOUT A $600 INSTALLATION FEE IN THE VERY BEGINNING. YOU REPEAT THAT AGAIN, PLEASE. IT'S WITH OUR CONTRACT. WE HAVE A FIVEYEAR CONTRACT. IT'S UM $2500 PER YEAR PER DEVICE. UM, AND THEN, WHEN WE INSTALL A NEW LOCATION, IT'S ABOUT A $600 INSTALLATION FEE FOR THAT INITIAL INSTALL. I'M GONNA PASS THE, UM LOOK FORWARD TO MY VICE CHAIR, DAN SAMS. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. UM LICENSE PLATE RECOGNITION. I NEEDED THE HELP ME UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE. WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THE LICENSE PLATE RECOGNITION? I MEAN, WHAT? WHAT? WHAT? ARE YOU SOLVING CRIMES? ARE YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE OUR OUR OFFICERS AND DETECTIVES ARE SOLVING CRIMES WITH THIS SYSTEM.WE HAVE SEVERAL SUCCESSES. UM I. I SAY SEVERAL MANY SUCCESSES WHERE OFFICERS HAVE HAD A STOLEN VEHICLE THAT IS DRIVEN THROUGH ONE OF THE FLOCK DEVICES AND THEY'RE ABLE TO, UM, GET THAT INDIVIDUAL ON, UM EITHER STEALING THE VEHICLE OR, UM, POSSESSION OF STOLEN PROPERTY.
WE'VE HAD I HAVE DETECTIVES AND OFFICERS EMAILING ME, UM, WITH SUCCESS STORIES OF HOW THEY WOULD NOT HAVE SOLVED THIS CRIME HAD THEY NOT HAD FLOCK. SH SPOTTERS. WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? SHOTSPOTTER DETECTS GUNSHOT DETECTION, SO THAT'S AN AUDIO. UM WITH FLOCK. IT IS A VISUAL, SO IT IS ONLY TAKING PHOTOS OF VEHICLES, UM, OR LICENSE PLATES. ONE MORE QUESTION. IS THIS THE SAME TECHNOLOGY YOU WOULD USE FOR AUTO ENFORCEMENT? I COULD, BUT WE DON'T I MEAN, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE RED LIGHT CAMERAS, THAT IS NOT THIS SYSTEM. OK IT IS LICENSE PLATE RECOGNITION, BUT THAT WOULD BE A TOTALLY SEPARATE THING. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN DONNA PURVIS, YOU THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I PROBABLY HAVE A SERIES OF QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FOR YOU. JENNIFER HOW LONG HAS UM LNPD HIT IN THE, UM THE BUDGET FOR THESE FLOCK CAMERAS? UM, SINCE 2021. 2021 DO YOU REMEMBER HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH, UH OTHERS AND ME ABOUT PUTTING SURVEILLANCE ON THE BOAT RAMP IN SHAWNEE PARK. AFTER A MURDER HAD TAKEN PLACE. YES, MA'AM. OK AND YOU WERE ADAMANT. ABOUT REFUSING TO DO SO. I WAS VERY NOT DONE. WAS VERY DISAPPOINTED. AND TO FIND OUT THAT AT THE TIME YOU DID HAVE A BUDGET TO DO SO, UM, I COULDN'T DO WHEN YOU SAID NO.
AND, UM YOU ASKED ME, WAS IT COMING OUT OF MY BUDGET? AND OF COURSE, I DON'T HAVE MUCH OF A BUDGET. AND YOU WERE ADAMANT ABOUT REFUSING TO DO SO. UM I COULDN'T DO MUCH ABOUT YOUR REFUSAL BECAUSE YOU WERE WORKING UNDER THE MAYOR'S ADMINISTRATION . BUT I DO WANT TO LET YOU KNOW I'M PROBABLY GOING ON RECORD AND LET YOU KNOW HOW DISAPPOINTING THAT WAS FOR YOU TO FIGHT BACK.
WITH A PERSON THAT WAS IN NEED OF SOMETHING TO SAVE LIVES. I HOPE THAT YOU'VE HAD A CHANGE OF TOLERANCE SINCE THEN. AND I HOPE THAT YOU ARE MORE OPEN MINDED. UH WHEN A COUNCIL PERSON OR ANYONE CALLS OUT FOR HELP REGARDING PUBLIC SAFETY, I REALLY SINCERELY HOPE THAT YOU HAVE CHANGED YOUR HEART IN THAT REGARD. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, MA'AM. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO KNOW
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ON THESE FLAT CAMERAS. ARE THEY MOBILE? ARE THEY STATIONARY? THEY ARE STATIONARY. THEY ARE STATIONARY. ARE YOU PLANNING TO, UM ASKED FOR MORE MONEY IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR FOR THESE FOR ADDITIONAL CAMERAS. THE I DON'T THINK WE'RE ASKING FOR MORE MONEY IN THIS BUDGET FOR ADDITIONAL, WE RECEIVED MONEY IN THE LAST BUDGET FOR ADDITIONAL THE MONEY REQUESTED IN THIS IS FOR THE FIVE YEAR CONTRACT. OK? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. COMMITTEE MEMBER. UM STUART BENSON. NEVER BEFORE THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. UH UH. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT, UH UH, THE QUORUM THAT, UH UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT HAD OUR OUR HAVING FLOCK CAMERAS IN THEIR IN THE CITY. UH IN IN MY DISTRICT.THERE'S SEVERAL, UH UH, SUBDIVISIONS WHO'VE INSTALLED FLOCK CAMERAS AT BOTH ENTRANCES.
UH AND IT REALLY IT MAY BE IF SOMEBODY NOTICES IT, THEY MIGHT NOT, UH DO A CRIME, BUT IT'S A GOOD WAY TO KNOW IF THERE IS A CRIME. ALL THE PEOPLE WHO COME AND GO AND SO I THINK WHAT WE'VE DONE IS TRYING TO, UH, HELP THE POLICE THAT BE EVERYWHERE ALL THE TIME, BUT HAVE SOME EYES THAT WOULD HELP OUT AND, UH AND SO IF YOU ALL KNOW ANY PLACE THAT THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL THAT WE HAVE WE'VE PARTNERSHIP WITH SEVERAL SUBDIVISIONS AND PAID FOR THE FIRST YEAR OR SOMETHING TO HELP HIM OUT AND GET THEM GOING. UH, BUT I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING II. I THINK AS TIME GOES ON THAT MAYBE THE BUDGET WOULD HELP OUT SOME OF THESE PLACES BECAUSE IT'S A GOOD WAY TO, UH, NOT HAVE AS MANY PLEAS BUT WE HAVE MORE EYES. AND SO THANKS FOR WHAT YOU ALL DO. VICE FOR DANCE. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. ONE MORE QUESTION. UM THE FLOCK CAME CAMERAS ARE THEY IN ONLY THE URBAN SERVICE DISTRICTS? I SEE THAT, UM 13 IS NOT IN INCLUDED IN THE LIST, BUT ARE THESE ONLY IN THE URBAN SERVICE DISTRICTS? NO, SIR. THANK YOU. MISS BONAPARTE. I'M SORRY. YOU IN THE QUEUE. MAKE IT PRESS RIGHT COUNCILWOMAN. AND I WAS TRYING TO BE. I DON'T KNOW IF I MADE IT. I DON'T THINK YOU ARE. BUT, UM, GO AHEAD. YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE FLOOR. THANK YOU. UM, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW HOW MANY BLOCK CAMERAS ARE IN DISTRICT THREE. AT THE MOMENT. I'M SORRY.
FIVE. HI YES, THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE LNPD FUNDED. OK AND THEN I. I KNOW THERE'S WITH CHADLI AND SOME OTHER BREAKDOWNS THAT THOSE THINGS CHANGED. I LIVE WHERE? UM I HAVE MY OWN PERSONAL ISSUES ABOUT EXTRA SURVEILLANCE. BUT I DO THINK THAT IF CAMERAS ARE ONLY USED, LIKE MY COLLEAGUE SAID, AS A DETERRENCE OR TO SOLVE CRIME, I THINK THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT BEING LIVING THAT MOST OF A LOT OF MY DISTRICTS ARE DIXIE HIGHWAY, AND THERE'S A LOT OF SPEEDING. I WANTED TO KNOW. WHEN IS THE F CAMERA TRIGGER? IS IT JUST RANDOMLY TAKING THESE PHOTOS? OR IS IT TRIGGERED BY SOMETHING? IT'S TRIGGERED BY MOVEMENT. BY MOVEMENT. OK, SO ALL MOVEMENT, SO IT'S JUST CONSTANTLY TAKING THEM AND THEN IT'S SAVES IT TO SOME CLOUD OR SOMETHING. UM, GENERALLY IT THERE. WHENEVER IT TAKES A PHOTO BY MOVEMENT. IT WILL TAKE A PHOTO OF, UM IT HAS MULTIPLE OBJECTS. THEY THEY CALL EACH VEHICLE AN OBJECT. SO IT MAY TAKE ONE PHOTO THAT HAS SIX DIFFERENT VEHICLES IN IT. THAT'S SIX DIFFERENT OBJECTS THAT THEY ARE CLASSIFIED IN. 11 PHOTOGRAPH . UM BUT THAT IT IS. IT IS DONE BY MOVEMENT. SO IF A VEHICLE DRIVES THROUGH THAT, THAT IT'S TRIGGERED TO TAKE A PHOTO OK, SOUNDS LIKE MY HIGHLY SENSITIVE CAMERA DOORBELL IT HAVE YOU SEEN, UM HAS THE OVERALL IMPACT OF HAVING THOSE CAMERAS INSTALLED AND REALLY POSITIVE. HAVE YOU SEEN A REALLY GOOD RETURN ON THIS CAMERA? YES, MA'AM. RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE'VE ALSO BEEN JOINED BY COUNCILMAN PAT MULVIHILL AND IN THE Q NEXT WE HAVE COUNCILWOMAN DONNA PURVIS. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I WANTED TO PIGGYBACK ON COUNCILMAN SIM ASKING. WERE THERE ANY CAMERAS IN DISTRICT 13 AND WITH A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC FATALITIES AND CRIME HAPPENING ALL OVER WHAT IS THE POSSIBILITY OF MAYBE INCREASING THE BUDGET OR ASKING FOR MORE MONEY IN THE BUDGET TO MAKE THESE CAMERAS AVAILABLE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY? SO RIGHT NOW WE ARE INCREASING BY 79 CAMERAS. WE HAD THOSE LOCATIONS SELECTED TO INCREASE
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THE AREAS THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDER, UM, THAT THAT DON'T HAVE AS MANY UM, SO WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS THAT TO ESCALATE THAT THANK YOU. UM I HAVE A QUESTION. UM ARE ANY OF THESE FLY CAMERAS IN ANY PARKS CAUSE I'M I'M NOTICING THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW THEY CAN COMMIT. TIME ANY TYPE OF CRIME IN THE PARKS. I KNOW SOME OF THE PARKS HAVE CAMERAS, BUT THE LIGHTING IS SO DULL. YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO CATCH THAT. YES MA'AM. WE HAVE SEVERAL FLOCK DEVICES WITHIN PARKS. WE'VE PARTNERED WITH METRO PARKS, UM, ON THAT AS WELL AS CAMERAS. OK, CAN YOU GIVE ME THE NAMES OF ANY OF THOSE PARTS? UM SHAWNE, CHECK US OUT. AND IROQUOIS. SO THAT'S FOUR PARTS. THOSE ARE ARE PARTS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE FLOCK DEVICES.WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS MORE. OK SO YOUR PARTNERING WITH, UH, METRO PARK FOR THAT? SAME PRICE, THOUGH, RIGHT? THROUGH OUR CONTRACT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. GOOD LORD. YOU GET ONE MORE QUESTION. VICE PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, UM THESE THESE CAMERAS YOU SAY L MP D. HAS IT OWNS THESE BUT ARE SOME OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PROVIDING THESE TWO ALSO RIGHT? SO A FEW OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM WITHIN DISTRICTS, UM 19 AND 23 HAVE PROVIDED FUNDS TO INSTALL CAMERAS WITHIN THEIR DISTRICT, WHERE THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THEM INSTALLED WITHIN THEIR DISTRICT, AND THEY HAVE TO PAY THE 2500 A YEAR ONGOING. WILL THEY EVER BE REIMBURSED? OR WILL LNPD UM TAKE UP. TAKE THAT UP SO THAT IT DOESN'T COME OUT OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS FUND SO AFTER THEIR WHATEVER WHATEVER, UM, LENGTH OF THEIR CONTRACT, WHETHER IT'S A YEAR OR TWO YEARS, UM, AFTER THAT, IT WOULD COME TO LNPD TO CONTINUE THOSE, UM, IF IT WAS PART OF THAT, YEAH. THANK YOU. I WOULD SAY THAT ANY, UH, HOMICIDES THAT ARE IN ANY PARKS. YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD SAY I WOULD DEFINITELY WANNA TALK TO THE ADMINISTRATION ABOUT, UM, PUTTING THOSE FLAT CAMERAS IN THOSE PARKS. UM THAT SEEMS TO BE A AREA THAT PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH CRIME. OH, I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE. ALL RIGHT. I DON'T SEE ANY, UM MORE SPEAKERS IN THE QUEUE. AND YOU WANT TO HAVE ANY OTHER CONCERNS HER? NO OUR NEXT REGULAR SCHEDULED PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING WILL BE HELD WEDNESDAY. MAY THE 8TH 2024 4 P.M. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME TODAY, HAVING NO FURTHER BUSINESS FOR US, WE STAND TO ADJOURN. THANK YOU.
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