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GOOD AFTERNOON. UM, I'M KEVIN CREAMER AT VICE CHAIR OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE. UM I'M JOINED IN CHAMBERS BY COUNCILMAN ANDREW OWEN AND, UH, VIRTUALLY BY COUNCILWOMAN PAULA MCCRANEY, THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE. RICK BLACKWELL IS ON HIS WAY. UM SOMETIMES TRAVELING FROM SCHOOLS TO HERE IS NOT AS QUICK AS WE WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO BE. SO, UM, HE'LL ARRIVE AS SOON AS HE CAN.
I WANNA START BY POINTING OUT THAT THERE IS NO LEGISLATION TODAY. THAT THE ONLY THING ON THE ON THE AGENDA FOR TODAY IS, UM, A PRESENTATION BY THE CHIEF OF POLICE. SO THANK YOU, CHIEF ARROYO FOR BEING HERE. UM AS WE ARE MOVING INTO THE BUDGET CYCLE AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THE LARGEST PORTION OF OUR BUDGET AND KNOWING THAT, UM YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD TO DEAL WITH SOME OF THE OVERTIME ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD, UM WE WERE HOPING THAT YOU COULD COME IN AND SHARE WITH US JUST A LITTLE BIT. WHAT THOSE OVERTIME DISCUSSIONS ARE LOOKING LIKE. FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE. WHAT IMPACT DO YOU THINK THAT MIGHT HAVE ON THE BUDGET AS WE'RE LOOKING AT MOVING FORWARD, UM AS WE SAT DOWN BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO ASK YOU TO COME IN AND TALK EXCLUSIVELY. THAT'S A LOT. WE COULD JUST SEND AN EMAIL. RIGHT UM, SO WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT.
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UM SO WE REALLY ARE HOPING TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE OVERTIME AND WHERE YOU THINK THATIGHTE, UM, FROM THE COUNCIL SIDE OF THE STREET? JUST SO YOU KIND OF HAVE A SENSE? UM WE KNOW YOU'RE BEING ASKED THROUGH NEIGHBOR DEVELOPMENT FUNDS. TO PROVIDE POLICING ON OVERTIME IN CERTAIN AREAS. UM WE ALSO KNOW THAT WE ARE ALREADY SPREAD THIN WITH OFFICERS AND THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE THE BEST YOU COULD TO FIGURE OUT WHERE YOU THOUGHT THOSE OVERTIME DOLLARS THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR BUDGET NEEDED TO BE. SO WE WERE HOPING YOU COULD GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF A LITTLE BIT OF INSIGHT ABOUT THE IMPACT OF OUR NDFS ON WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. DOES THAT MAKE IT HARDER OR IS IT DOES IT HELP IN ANY WAY? UM I WENT THROUGH ALL THE OTHER TWO AND THEN JUST I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU OK? UM WE ALSO KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD A AN ONGOING STRUGGLE WITH TRAFFIC GUARDS. UM AND JUST HIRING ENOUGH. UM, WE KNOW THAT'S BEEN AN ISSUE, SO WE'RE KIND OF CURIOUS. WHERE WHERE WE ARE IN THAT PROCESS, AND THEN FINALLY, UM WE KNOW THAT WE'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO DO AS MUCH TRAFFIC CONTROL THE TRAFFIC CONTROL OFFICERS AGAIN WITH THE SHORTAGE . UM SO THERE HAS BEEN SOME QUESTIONS CIRCLING CIRCULATING AROUND. ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF CONTRACTING WITH OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES NEARBY.THAT MIGHT BE IT MIGHT MIGHT BRING THE OPERATIVE WORD THERE, UM, THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP OUT IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW IF WE COULD CONTRACT WITH THEM TO DO THE SCHOOL CROSSINGS, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE COULD CONTRACT WITH THEM TO DO, UM, TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT AGAIN. WE'RE NOT. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS TRYING TO MOVE YOU GUYS IN ONE DIRECTION OR ANOTHER. I THINK IT'S MORE WE KNOW THAT THESE ARE BIG ISSUES, AND, UM WE WERE REALLY KIND OF HOPING TO GET KIND OF AN OVERVIEW AS WE MOVE INTO THE BUDGET PROCESS. SO, UM, DID I IS THAT? DID I PUT ENOUGH ON THE TABLE? YES, YOU DID. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND LET THE RECORD REFLECT. I'M JOINED BY OUR CHAIRMAN BLACKWELL AND HE WILL BE TAKING OVER THE MEETING FROM HERE. OK? APOLOGIZE FOR BEING LATE. I'M SURE THAT MY VICE CHAIR JUST SOUNDED LIKE HE JUST GAVE YOU 85 QUESTIONS TO ANSWER SO WE'LL JUST TURN IT OVER TO YOU AND LET YOU ANSWER THE 1ST 70 OR SO ANYWAY. UH THAT SOUNDS GOOD. WELL FIRST OF ALL, UM, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE HERE AND JUST TO GO OVER WHERE WE ARE, UM, WITH AN LNPD AS IT CONCERNS OUR OVERTIME AND OUR THOUGHTS ON IT AND HOW WE CAN AND HOW WE'RE STRIVING TO DO BETTER IN THAT SPACE. AND SO I HAVE A PRESENTATION. UM IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND DISPLAY IT. IS IT UP? YOU CAN JUST SWEAT OK? ALL RIGHT, GREAT, AND IT'S SIMPLE IN NATURE. UM, SO FIRST OFF UM THE SLOT WHICH YOU SEE RIGHT NOW, AT THE TOP OF YOUR SCREEN. UM YOU WILL SEE IN FY 23 IS THE PROJECTED OVER TIME. UM, FOR LNPD. SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT FOR ME TO EXPLAIN IT FOR YOU WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT NONSCHEDULED OVERTIME, UM, THAT CONSISTS OF, UM, THE CRITICAL MANPOWER SHORTAGE IN WHICH WE'RE DEALING WITH CURRENT. AND IN THE PAST, UM, THAT INCLUDES, UM, HAVING OFFICERS AVAILABLE TO FILL IN WHEN ILLNESS TAKE PLACE FROM OTHER OFFICERS. TRAINING. UM STAFFING. UM, IT ALSO DO ALSO INCORPORATES WHEN SPECIALTY UNITS ARE CALLED OUT, SUCH AS SWAT INCIDENTS, UM DETECTIVES ARE CALLING OUT BEING CALLED OUT FOR ANY KIND OF INVESTIGATION. SO THE NONSCHEDULED OVERTIME AT THE TOP OF YOUR SCREEN AT 11,000,006 04 500, THAT IS WHAT WAS PROJECTED INTO IN FY 23. THE OVERTIME SCHEDULED CATEGORY. UM THAT IS WHEN WE'RE HAVING OUR SPECIAL, UM, DETAILS WITHIN THROUGHOUT THE CITY. UM, SO THAT IS, IT COULD BE PRISONER DETAILS THAT WE HAVE TO DO AT THE HOSPITALS. UM IT COULD BE THE FEDERAL GRANT OVER TIMES THAT WE'RE COVERING, UM, AS RELATES TO TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT OVERTIME FOR ANIMAL CARE FOR CANINE HANDLERS, UM, AND SOME SPECIAL EVENTS SUCH AS NATIONAL NIGHT OUT DAIRY FESTIVAL. UM, WE HAVE THE PGA THAT IS COMING, UM, JUST TO GIVE YOU ANOTHER EXAMPLE IN ANY KIND OF LARGE SCALE EVENT THAT IS THE IN THE CATEGORY OF THE OVERTIME THAT IS SCHEDULED AND SO WHY 23. WE HAVE 590,400. WHICH GIVES YOU THE, UM, THE 12 MILLION AND FOR FY 24. THE PROJECTED OVERTIME WAS A LITTLE OVER 14 MILLION, UM, AGAIN THAT WAS FORECAST AND THEN THE OVERTIME SCHEDULE AND THEN YOU WILL SEE WHAT WE USE. UM IN THE DIFFERENCE OF THAT THE ALLOCATION OF THE 3 MILLION IN WHICH YOU LEFT US AT 3 MILLION 0.1, NOW FOR AND WHEN WE'RE SPEAKING OF, UM THE NONSCHEDULED OVERTIME AT THE BOTTOM. THIS IS ACTUALLY WHAT WE USED. AND SO
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THE FORECAST IS AT THE TOP. THAT OMB, UM SAYS THIS IS WHERE LNPD IS GONNA REST, AND THE ACTUAL BOTTOM FIGURES IS WHERE WE LANDED. UM SO AGAIN, UM, FY 23 A LITTLE OVER 9 MILLION. UM UH, WAS UTILIZED OVERTIME SCHEDULE WAS 451 AND GAVE US A 10 MILLION AND THEN FOR FY 24, WE'RE RIGHT.NOW AT THE 11 MILLION, UM OF THE NONSCHEDULED OVERTIME FILLING IN ALL OF THOSE GAPS. UM, BUT LET ME ALSO TO ADD INTO THIS EQUATION WITHIN THAT, NONSCHEDULED. UM OVERTIME. WE HAD THE APPLEGATE SCENARIO WHICH PUSHED US AT OVER ALMOST AT 1 MILLION. THAT WAS UNPLANNED, BUT WE HAD TO COVER IT. UM BECAUSE IT WAS A SAFETY ISSUE, AND NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT HOPEFULLY GETTING SOME FUNDS BACK ON THAT, BUT WE HAD TO COVER THAT. AND THAT WAS NOT IN THE SO YOU SEE THAT RISE IN THE NUMBER AND AGAIN? UH, OVERTIME SCHEDULED. UM, OVERTIME IS, UM 252,000 RIGHT THERE. SO AGAIN. UM, WE'RE STILL TRYING TO MANAGE OUR OVERTIME. BUT IT IS THE SHORTAGE OF THE NUMBERS OF OUR OFFICERS AND LET ME SAY THIS. I WANNA PUT IT OUT HERE. WE'RE NOT AND YOU HAVE HEARD US. WE'RE NOT MAKING EXCUSES FOR BEING SHORT. WE JUST GOTTA MEET THE DEMAND. UM, AND SO AGAIN, WE'RE PUTTING OUR OFFICERS WHERE THEY NEED TO BE. UM, THE COMMUNITY IS REQUIRING THAT, UM WE WANT OUR MANAGERS TO BE, UM, RESPECTFUL AND MINDFUL OF WHERE THE OFFICERS ARE WORKING, UM, TO ENSURE THEY'RE IN SPACES IN WHICH WE NEED FOR THEM. TO BE AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING, BUT WE ARE SHORT AND WE'RE FILLING IN THOSE GAPS. UM, TO NOT MAKE EXCUSES. WE GOTTA MAKE IT WORK. UM SO I WANT ALSO TO SHOW YOU. UM SO FOR ALL CLARITY, UM, TO STOP THE TOP SPENDING UNITS THROUGH FEBRUARY. WE JUST BROKE IT DOWN AND SEE SO YOU CAN SEE FIRST DIVISION WAS AT A LITTLE OVER 800,000 DOWN. THE FIRST DIVISION IS AT 1 MILLION THE NUMBERS OF FLUCTUATING AND IT COULD BE BECAUSE OF, UM PEOPLE RESIGNING, UM, GOING FOR OTHER JOBS OR FAMILY ISSUES RETIRING. NO MORE ATTRITION, BUT WE'RE FEELING STILL FILLING IN THOSE GAPS. AND SO THE DIVISIONS FLUCTUATING. THAT IS WHAT YOU'RE GETTING. UM AND I CAN'T PUT OFFICERS IN ANY DIVISION. UM UNTIL THEY COME OUT OF THE RECRUIT CLASS. GO SOLO. UM, AND NOW THEY'RE ON THEIR OWN , AND NOW WE CAN PLACE IT WITHIN THE DIVISIONS, BUT NONETHELESS, WE CANNOT SIT BACK AND SAY WE CAN'T ANSWER A CALL FOR SERVICE. AND SO WE HAVE OFFICERS THAT ARE SIGNING UP AND THEY'RE FILLING THAT. SO THESE ARE OUR NUMBERS AND WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE. UM, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE LNPD MAJOR CRIMES DIVISION, UM CIS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CRIME SCENE INDIVIDUALS. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YOUR HOMICIDE INVESTIGATORS GOING OUT, UM, MAKING THOSE, UM, THOSE RUNS.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YOUR SEX CRIMES. UM INVESTIGATORS BEING CALLED OUT, UM, TO, UH, HANDLE AN INVESTIGATION. SO THOSE ARE OUR NUMBERS. I JUST WANTED TO BREAK IT DOWN FOR YOU. SO YOU CAN SEE, UM, WHERE THE DOLLARS ARE ARE LANDING. AND SO AS I MOVE ON OVER TO THESE, UM THE OTHER SLIDE HERE. I WANT TO SHOW YOU WHERE OUR STAFFING IS, AS OF , UM MARCH 1ST COMPARED TO LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR. UM, AGAIN, WE'RE HOLDING STEADY. UH, WE DON'T HAVE THAT WE'RE NOT SEEING THAT BLEED LIKE WE WERE BEFORE. WHICH IS A GOOD THING. UM, WE'RE HOLDING STEADY. UM, OUR RECRUITMENT EFFORTS ARE UP. UM I'M GRATEFUL FOR COUNCIL APPROVING, UM, OUR RECRUITMENT EFFORTS. UM AS FAR AS THE FUNDING ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT HELPED US WE WE'RE HAVING MORE.
ARE ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA. WE'RE HAVING MORE ACTIVITY, UM, WHEN THEY'RE SHOWING UP TO TAKE THE PHYSICAL AGILITY TEST, AND SO WE'RE SEEING THAT WE HAVE OUR BILLBOARDS. WE HAVE OUR FLYERS.
IT IS WORKING FUNDING. BUT ALLOCATING THOSE FUNDS TO SAY I WANT TARGETED RECRUITMENT EFFORTS CAN'T BE BLANKETED. UM AND WE'VE MOVED IN THAT DIRECTION WHERE IT CAN'T BE STATIC, EITHER. IT HAS TO BE CONSTANTLY MOVING, BUT YOU DON'T SEE THE BLEED AS WHAT? WHAT WE ONCE SAW, AND I'M HAPPY TO SAY I HAD A PERSON THAT ON YESTERDAY, UM, THAT RETIRED AND WANTS TO BE RETIRED BACK. SO WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS THAT LEFT LNPD AND NOW WANT TO RETURN. UM I WANNA PUT THIS OUT HERE. WE'RE NOT TAKING BACK EVERYBODY. UM WE'RE VERY, UH, MINDFUL, UM, WHO IS ABLE TO COME BACK TO OUR, UM, DEPARTMENT TO FIT THE MISSION AND GOALS? WHERE WE ARE TODAY, AND SO WE'RE VERY INTENTIONAL ABOUT THAT. BUT WE DO HAVE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO COME BACK TO OUR AGENCY. SO AGAIN. UM, AS I'VE BEEN TELLING THE PUBLIC WE'RE SHORT A LITTLE OVER 250.
SO WE LET 272 THAT WERE SHORT NONETHELESS. UM, WE HAVE A RECRUIT CLASSES IN, UH, CLASS RIGHT NOW. 18 RECRUITS AND SO, UM, I I'M HOPEFUL THAT ALL 18 WILL MEET ME AT GRADUATION DAY AND SWEAR THEM IN AND WE'LL HAVE AN ADDITIONAL 18 PEOPLE, UM, ROLLING OUT SOON. AND THEN I WANTED TO SPEAK ON THE METRO COUNCIL FUNDS ALLOCATED FOR OVERTIME. WE'RE SO APPRECIATIVE.
UM, WHEN COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE, UM SAYING I NEED THESE, UM I WANT TO HELP YOU IN YOUR SPACES WITH OVERTIME. IT DOES HELP US BUT ALSO TOO WANNA BE CLEAR ON THIS. I THINK IT WAS, UM IT WAS KIND
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OF STATED OR IT WAS ASSUMED THAT WE ARE ARE PETITIONING COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THE OVERTIME FUNDS.NO WE'RE HAVING THESE DIALOGUES WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS. WHAT IS IT ? WHAT ARE WE LOOKING LIKE IN YOUR DIVISION IN YOUR DISTRICT? HOW CAN WE COLLABORATE TOGETHER IN ORDER TO FIGHT THIS CRIME OR TO GIVE A BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE RESPONSE. AND THOSE FUNDS FOR THE FOR THE OVERTIME IS HELPING US AND SO WE ARE APPRECIATIVE OF THAT. AND SO I WANTED TO BREAK IT DOWN EVEN FURTHER. AND SO WE HAD 25,000 FOR FY 23. WE HAD 25,000 AT THE BEGINNING OF A YEAR ORDINANCE. UM THAT WENT INTO THE GENERAL FUND FOR DISTRICT 24. SO THAT'S THE SEVENTH DIVISION THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY ALLOCATED FOR VIOLENT CRIME. DETAILS IN THE PRE CORRIDOR BETWEEN FERN VALLEY ROAD AND OUTER LOOP AND THE HOTEL CORRIDOR. UM AND THE 2900 BLOCK OF FERN VALLEY. UM $10,000 WAS ALLOCATED TOWARDS US FOR DISTRICT 26. COUNCILMAN AKERSON, UM, WAS GRACIOUSLY, UM, GAVE THAT THOSE FUNDS TO US FOR OVERTIME, UM THE VISION FOR ADDITIONAL HOURS TO PROVIDE SPEEDING AND CRIME PREVENTION DURING THE HOLIDAYS. THAT IS YOUR FY 23 THE FUNDS THAT WE RECEIVED FROM COUNCIL AND SO WE MOVE OVER TO FY 24 12,600 AT THE BEGINNING. OF THE YEAR, UM, WAS MOVED TO GENERAL FUND FOR THE DU I TEAM FOR FIVE WEEKS, UM, IN THE FIFTH DIVISION. WE SAW HOW THAT THAT DETAIL WORKED OUT, AND IT WAS VERY, VERY PRODUCTIVE. UM DISTRICT 26 AGAIN. FUNDING FROM, UM, COUNCILMAN ACKERSON. I'M VERY GRATEFUL GAVE US $60,000 TO CONDUCT OVERTIME DETAILS TO ADDRESS VARIOUS, UM, CRIME RELATED COMPLAINTS. HOLIDAY THEFT REDUCTION DETAILS FOR THE BUSINESSES AND AUTO THEFTS, SO PUTTING THAT STRATEGIC PLANS TOGETHER. UM IS HELPING US, BUT THOSE FUNDS ARE ALLOCATED FOR THOSE OFFICERS THAT ARE THAT RECEIVED THOSE IN THAT AREA.
WORK THAT PACIFIC INITIATIVE, NOTHING ELSE THEY FOCUS IN ON THAT, UM, SO THAT IS THAT'S WHERE, UM, THE FUNDS THAT, UM GOES FROM COUNCIL AND WE APPRECIATE IT. SO I DO KNOW.
THAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO KNOW AGAIN. WHAT ARE WE DOING AS FAR AS OUR TRAFFIC AND OUR TRAFFIC GUARDS? UM THEY ARE. THEY ARE TRULY, UM, A PART OF OUR ORGANIZATION, WHICH IS AMAZING.
UM A LOT OF OUR TRAFFIC CARS HAVE DONE AND SERVED THIS CITY. WELL FOR OVER 30 YEARS. WE JUST CELEBRATED ONE INDIVIDUAL. SHE'S BEEN WITH US FOR 47 YEARS. SHE JUST RETIRED, UM, AND WORKED EVERY DETAIL, UM, FOR THIS CITY, AND SO WE ARE GRATEFUL AND WE'RE APPRECIATIVE AND SO RIGHT NOW, CURRENTLY WE HAVE 79 TRAFFIC GUARDS. UM THAT ARE WORKING FOR US. UM RIGHT NOW, UM, THEY'RE BROKEN DOWN TO FOUR HOURS AND SIX HOUR TRAFFIC GUARD, UM, ALLOCATIONS. UM, BUT WE HAVE 79.
SO WE'RE DOWN 33 POSITIONS RIGHT NOW. WHAT ARE WE DOING? WE'RE ADVERTISING AND TRYING TO PUSH FOR MORE TRAFFIC GUARDS TO COME ON AND BE A PART OF THE SOLUTION AND HELP US WITH OUR CROSSING GUARDS FOR OUR CHILDREN. UH, WE'VE DONE P SAS, UM, WE'VE ACTUALLY, UH, REACHED OUT TO SOME OF OUR OTHER TRAFFIC GUARDS TO SAY I NEED YOU TO GET IN FRONT OF THAT CAMERA AND MAKE A PLEA BECAUSE THIS IS IMPORTANT WORK. UM WE NEED MORE. UM, IT'S JUST TRYING TO GET THEM IN, UM, THE DOOR, BUT THE ONES THAT WE DO HAVE ARE VERY DEDICATED. UM, SO AS IT RELATES TO OUR UH, TRAFFIC RS. AND THE CROSSING GUARDS. UM, THE UTILIZATION WE ARE SO OPEN TO COLLABORATE ON HOW WE CAN FIT THAT NEED SO I AM I'M ON BOARD IF WE CAN GET OFFICERS AND I KNOW MY TEAM AS WELL, WE CAN GET OFFICERS AND CONTRACT THEM IN, UM, TO WORK THAT PARTICULAR, UM, SPACE. I'M ALL FOR THAT. I SUPPORT THAT WHOLEHEARTEDLY. WE LNPD IS NOT IN THE IN THE POSITION BECAUSE WE ARE SHORT RIGHT NOW. WE CAN'T DO IT. WE CAN'T COVER IT. UM NOT THAT WE DON'T WANT. WE JUST CAN'T COVER IT. WE WE'RE GOING FROM CALL TO CALL AND THEN I'M TRYING TO INSERT AND DEMAND COMMUNITY POLICING IN BETWEEN. UM SO AGAIN, WE CAN COLLABORATE ON THAT BRAINSTORM ON THAT. UM, THIS IS A SPACE AND I AND I'M OPEN TO ALL OF THAT. UM, I WILL LET YOU KNOW THAT EVEN IN OUR TRAFFIC AREA BECAUSE WE ARE OUR TRAFFIC ARENA, WE KNOW THAT OUR ROADS ARE ARE ARE A LITTLE BIT DANGEROUS. UM, FROM TIME TO TIME. I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE PUTTING EMPHASIS ON OUR TRAFFIC AND ENFORCEMENT, UM, TO ENSURE THAT INDIVIDUALS SLOW DOWN AS YOU SAW LAST WEEK, THE COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY HAS DEDICATED A PROCESS DEDICATED PROSECUTOR FOR OUR TRAFFIC FATALITIES. UM, AND IT'S CALLED THE, UM THE FAST SO IT'S CALLED THE FATAL ACCIDENT SUPPORT TEAM. UM IT WAS IN THE IT WAS IN THE CITY BEFORE AND SO NOW WE HAVE REVAMPED IT AND BROUGHT IT BACK. UM OUR OFFICERS NOW HAVE BEEN EQUIPPED WITH MORE RADARS IN ORDER TO SLOW PEOPLE DOWN ON THE WAYS. UM, BECAUSE, UM, LAST YEAR IF I STAND TO BE CORRECTED OVER 100 AND 25 PEOPLE LOST THEIR LIFE, UM, ON OUR ROADS, AND THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE, AND SO WE REALLY WANT OUR CHILDREN AND EVERY IN OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO BE SAFE, SO WE MUST DO SOMETHING WITH OUR
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TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT. UM AND THAT IS THE SPACE THAT WE'RE IN, SO I'LL PAUSE RIGHT NOW FOR ANY QUESTIONS. I NEED TO THANK YOU FIRST. I NEED TO ALSO, UM UH, ACKNOWLEDGE. WE WERE JOINED BY COUNCILMAN ARTHUR COUNCILWOMAN PARKER COUNCIL MAY RENA WEBER AND COUNCILMAN HUDSON THANK YOU.I'VE GOT A COUPLE AND THEN I'VE GOT SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY IN A QUEUE. UM SO ONE OF MY QUESTIONS WHEN YOU SAID ABOUT TRAFFIC GUARDS BEING DOWN 33 POSITIONS SO YOU NEED 33 JUST TO HAVE ALL OF THE SOMEONE AT EVERY ONE OF THE SCHOOLS THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE SO THAT THAT THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE ANYONE LIKE COLLINS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. YOU NEED 33 ACTUAL BODIES JUST TO BE JUST THAT. YES, JUST TO FEEL THAT HOLD. AND HOW OFTEN DO WE HAVE IS? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF HOW OFTEN WE HAVE PEOPLE CALLING IN AND THAT THAT I'M I'M A I'M SORRY. COLONEL OWEN. UH, NICK OWEN OWEN, UH, I'M UNSURE HOW OFTEN WE HAVE CALL INS. UM BUT THAT 33 NUMBER LIKE CHIEF SAID WOULD GET US BACK TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE JUST TO JUST TO ADEQUATELY CONQUER. CORRECT MANAGEABLE. I'M ASSUMING WE HAVE A CALL IN EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE. THAT'S UM AND THEN MY OTHER WAS, UM WE HAVE WELL, I HAD TWO MORE QUESTIONS. SO UH DO WE HAVE, UM, DO WE RESPOND TO ACCIDENTS AT ALL ANYMORE? DO WE DO WE TAKE UM, ACCIDENT REPORTS STILL, YES, WE'RE BACK IN ROTATION. SO THAT WAS A PAUSE, OF COURSE OF COVID. BUT WE POUR THAT OVER A YEAR AGO , AND WE'RE BACK IN FULL OPERATION. OK AND THEN THE LAST BEFORE, UH AND THEN I'LL GET IN THE QUEUE. WHICH IS WHAT I TELL EVERYONE ELSE TO DO. UH, IS, UM DO WE? SO DO WE ACTUALLY HAVE, LIKE ONCE WE ADD COUNCIL MEMBERS OVER TIME, AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR, UH, PLANNED OVERTIME. UH AND THEN YOU HAVE UNPLANNED OVERTIME. SO AND WE'RE SHORT ON POLICE OFFICERS. SO DO WE ACTUALLY HAVE ENOUGH? POTENTIAL.
TO HAVE A POLICE OFFICER EVEN ON OVERTIME. FILL THOSE HOURS. I MEAN, THEY THEY THEY CAN'T WORK.
24 7 SO 24 7, SO IT'S JUST REALLY. IT'S REALLY HARD. UM BECAUSE WE'RE JUST SO, UM, WE'RE IN A SPACE WE'RE JUST TRYING TO FILL IN THOSE GAPS, UM, OF THE DIVISION'S NEEDS, AND IT'S REALLY HARD AND THEN INCORPORATING, YOU KNOW, FML A AND PEOPLE BEING ON MILITARILY.
ALL OF THAT PLAYS A PART OF JUST HAVING THOSE GAPS IN THOSE HOLES . UM AND ALSO TO PEOPLE THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, OUT FOR DISCIPLINARY REASONS, AND SO IT IT JUST TRULY, TRULY HARD TO FEEL THAT WE HAD HEARD AT 1.1 OF OUR MAJOR SAID. YOU KNOW, EVEN IF YOU ALLOCATE FUNDS I DON'T HAVE PEOPLE. PEOPLE WE CAN'T MEET THOSE NEEDS. SO, LIKE, SO I GUESS MY QUESTION WILL LAST FOLLOW UP. UH IS SO THEN HOW DO WE? HOW DO YOU MAKE THAT DECISION? SO YOU HAVE THE THINGS THAT I BE? I'M ASSUMING. WELL I SHOULDN'T ASSUME IT OFF. SO WHEN YOU HAVE PLANNED OVERTIME, YOU KNOW IT'S COMING. AND YOU HAVE YOUR OWN PLAN THINGS LIKE, UM, APPLE GATE. UM AND THEN THE COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU DETERMINE IT? SO MANY PEOPLE. HOW DO WE DETERMINE WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE PRIORITY FOR FOLKS? AND SO THE PRIORITY WILL BE, OF COURSE, THE CALLS FOR SERVICE THAT IS THE PRIORITY . BUT WHEN WE DO HAVE A MAJOR EVENT, WE HAVE TO SHIFT WE MUST COVER THAT MAJOR EVENT BECAUSE THE CITY UM REQUIRES, YOU KNOW TO BE SAFE. AND SO WE HAVE TO MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT. UM THAT'S WHY IT IS INCUMBENT UPON MY COMMANDERS TO BE VERY MINDFUL OF HOW THEY, UM, PLACING THEIR INDIVIDUALS AND WHERE INDIVIDUALS WORK THE OVERTIME TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MEETING THE CALL VOLUME NEEDED, UM, IN THAT PARTICULAR SPACE. BUT AGAIN, WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT IF WE HAVE A MAJOR EVENT, UM, THAT MAJOR EVENT MUST BE COVERED IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT THE ENTIRE CITY IS SAFE AND THAT, UM THE LOUISS HERE CAN ARE . WE CAN ENJOY THE EVENT AS WELL AS OUR VISITORS. WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE IT WORK. UH, COUNCILMAN ARTHUR. THANK YOU. CHAIR, PEACE CHIEF. YOU PROVIDE SERVICES TO SUBURBAN CITY POLICE DEPARTMENTS. COUNCILMAN THEY ACTUALLY, UM THEY ARE THE PRIMARY INDIVIDUALS THAT WORK THEIR AREA, BUT IF THEY NEED FOR US TO SUPPORT THEM, UM IF THEY HAVE A HOMICIDE IF THEY HAVE A MAJOR INCIDENT THAT THEY DON'T HAVE I, I WANNA SAY THE CAPACITY OR THE SKILL SET. I HATE TO USE THAT I'M USING THAT LOOSELY. UM BUT WE DO HAVE A WORKING MOU THAT WE WILL DO IT. YES SIR. AND SO IF THEY HAVE A MAJOR INCIDENT, THEY WILL CALL ON LNPD. AND WE WILL GO AND WE WILL ASSIST THEM. YES. AND HOW DO YOU ACCOUNT FOR THAT STAFF TIME? WOULD THAT BE CONSIDERED OVERTIME OR SOMETHING ELSE? IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED. IT DEPENDS IF WE'RE ON DUTY AND THEY CALL US IT'S REGULAR TIME LNPD TIME RIGHT, AND IF IT'S AFTER HOURS, THEN IT WILL. IT WILL FALL IN
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THAT OVER TIME BUCKET. WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO DISAGGREGATE? THAT OVER TIME. SEPARATE FROM THE TOTAL OVERTIME THAT YOU PROVIDED FOR US TODAY. I'M JUST CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE WHETHER IT'S PER SUBURBAN CITY OR JUST IN TOTAL. ABSOLUTELY UM, BECAUSE AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, WITHIN THE LAST YEAR, WE HAVEN'T HAD TO RESPOND. AM I CORRECT TO ANY OF OUR MAJOR CITIES IN A IN A WAY THAT IT IT WAS SO TAXING, BUT I CAN PULL THAT OUT FOR YOU AND SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. OK AND JUST A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS. COULD YOU JUST RUN THE ELABORATE ON THE METRO COUNCIL FUNDS GOING TOWARDS OVERTIME? WE'VE HAD MEMBERS THAT USE NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS FOR OVERTIME, NOT FOR EVENTS, BUT SPECIFICALLY FOR EXTRA PATROLS, HAS TO WORK WITH DIFFERENT DIVISIONS THAT OVERLAP WITH OUR COUNCIL DISTRICT ON EXTRA PATROLS WITHOUT PROVIDING THE OVERTIME AND WE WERE INFORMED. THERE IS ALREADY OVERTIME FUNDING IN THE BUDGET.MORE THAN ENOUGH. SO HOW DOES EXTRA FUNDING FROM COUNCIL REALLY HELP IF THERE'S FUNDS THERE. YOU KNOW, WE CAN JUST PARTNER BY LETTING YOU ALL DO WHAT YOU DO BEST. COULD YOU JUST ELABORATE ON ON HOW THOSE FUNDS ACTUALLY HELP? YEAH. SO WHEN YOU ARE WHEN THE COUNCIL WHEN YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE GIVING US THOSE FUNDS WE ARE TRULY USING THOSE DOLLARS AND THOSE HOURS AND WE'RE TACH INTO THAT SPECIFIC FUNDING STREAM SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY SEE THAT THAT 60 DO. $60,000 FOR EXAMPLE, IS FROM METRO COUNCILS INITIATIVE FOR THAT PARTICULAR AREA. UM, IT DOES HELP US IN OUR BUDGET BECAUSE AGAIN WE HAD THAT NO SCHEDULE OVERTIME. BUT AGAIN, WE WANNA BE MINDFUL AND BE GOOD STORIES OF HOW WE USE IT, AND WE'RE REPLACING OUR PEOPLE. SO WHEN THOSE NDFS ARE RECEIVED, WE ARE TRULY SAYING THAT THIS IS FOR THIS INITIATIVE RIGHT HERE.
IT DIDN'T GO TO APPLEGATE, BUT IT GOES RIGHT HERE FOR BROADWAY. DU I DETAIL. UM SO THAT'S HOW IT HELPS US TO AND IT JUST IT JUST GIVE IT GIVES US AN OFFSET TO SAY OK, NOW WE'RE NOT REALLY $500,000 OVER ON OUR OWN BUDGET. WE REALLY HAVE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT GAVE US UM THE SUPPORT THE EXTRA SUPPORT AND IT AND WE CAN REFLECT THAT. SO IT DOES HELP. YES, SIR. AND IN MY LAST QUESTION YOU MENTIONED NOT BRINGING BACK OLD EMPLOYEES. WHAT QUALIFIERS ARE YOU USING? TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS? SO SOME OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT, UM HAVE APPLIED? UM AGAIN? WE LOOK AT THE DISCIPLINARY UM, HISTORY WITH THAT INDIVIDUAL. WE LOOK AT EVERY HOW THEY LEFT, UM, DEPARTMENT. UM AND I IT WE HAVE FACTOR IN ALL OF THAT, SOME RESTING ON THESE, UM, MY EXECUTIVE TEAM MEMBERS TO HELP ME WITHIN THAT DECISION, UM, ON THAT PROCESS, BUT WE REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE BRING YOU BACK. UM THE RIGHT INDIVIDUALS TO SERVE US. I MEAN, WE'RE IN A DIFFERENT SPACE. NOW. WE GOTTA OPERATE DIFFERENT. WE GOTTA THINK DIFFERENT. UM AND WE'RE CHANGING THE CULTURE AND SO AGAIN, I'M MAKING THAT CRITICAL DECISION. UM AND I REALLY WANNA SAY THIS III I TELL TO THE RECRUITS ALL THE TIME THAT YES, WE ARE SHORT. UM, WE NEED GOOD.
UM BUT WE'RE NOT DESPERATE BECAUSE DESPERATION WILL GET US INTO ADDITIONAL LAWSUITS. AND SO AGAIN, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO, UM PATTERN OURSELVES IN A IN A DIFFERENT FASHION RIGHT NOW, COUNCILMAN SO AGAIN. WE'RE JUST REALLY INTENTIONAL ABOUT, UM, WHO WE'RE ADDING BACK. YES, SIR.
WANT TO POINT OUT THAT COUNCILWOMAN FOWLER AND COUNCILWOMAN MCCRANEY JOINED US ACTUALLY. QUITE A WHILE AGO. CRANEY WAS ALREADY HERE. I'M SORRY. UH, COUNCILMAN PARKER.
IT'S A WOMAN, PARKER. YOU'RE MUTED. CAN YOU HEAR ME? OK, GREAT. OK SO I HAD A QUESTION.
UM YOU MENTIONED ABOUT DOWN BEING DOWN 33 TRAFFIC GUARDS AND THEN ALSO HIRING BACK RETIREES, BUT NOT HIRING BACK SOME OF THEM SO WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE? HIRE THE ONES THAT YOU WEREN'T TOO SURE ABOUT HIRING BACK ON THE STREETS. WOULD THEY BE AMENABLE? OR WOULD THEY BE A GOOD FIT? FOR REPLACING SOME OF OUR TRAFFIC GUARDS HAD THAT QUESTION. AND THEN WHAT IS THE PAY OF THE TRAFFIC GUARDS? OK SO IF, UH IF AN INDIVIDUAL HAS LEFT AS A RETIREE AS AN OFFICER, UH, AGAIN COMING BACK AS A TRAFFIC ART THEY COULD CONSIDER AND APPLY FOR IT. UM THE SALARY IS NOT GONNA BE, UM AS ON THE SAME LEVEL AS A SWORN OFFICER. UM BUT I HAVE NOT APPROACHED THEM, UM, IN THAT CAPACITY, BUT WOULD YOU THINK ABOUT OFFERING THAT TO THEM OR AS SOMETHING BETTER THAN NOTHING? I WILL SPEAK WITH MY EXECUTIVE TEAM MEMBERS ON THAT, BECAUSE AGAIN, UM WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT EVEN AT TRAFFIC ARTS, I'M I'M THINKING ABOUT GOOD CUSTOMER SERVICE. UM I'M THINKING ABOUT GOOD, UH, INTERACTIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY ALL THE WAY AROUND. AND SO, I, I MUST ENSURE THAT THAT IS GOING TO BE THE BEST PERSON. UM, NO MATTER WHAT IF THEY'RE WALKING ACROSS KIDS ACROSS THE INTERSECTION OR THEY'RE ENGAGING A, UM, A BUS DRIVER. THEY
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ENGAGING A PARENT, UM, WHO'S LATE FOR WORK, BUT THEN YOU DROP OFF THEIR KIDS. SO ALL OF THAT HAS TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. UM, BUT I'LL MOLD THAT. AND JUST SEE OK, AND THEN, UM, IT WAS MENTIONED ABOUT OUR LNPD OFFICERS OFFERING HELP TO THE SUBURBAN, UM, CITY. UH DEPARTMENTS. BUT ISN'T IT TRUE, THOUGH, TOO, THAT THE SUBURBAN CITY OFFICERS SOMETIMES HELP OUR ELEMENT? LNP D? ABSOLUTELY WE HAVE A GREAT PARTNERSHIP. UM UM, WITH THE SURROUNDING, UM, SUBURBAN CITIES AND, UM, VERY INTENTIONAL, UM, WITH MY RELATIONSHIP WITH THE FELLOW CHIEFS. I WAS JUST WITH, UM, CHIEF A WILKERSON, UM, AT A TOWN HALL MEETING WITH COUNCILMAN I MEAN, YEAH. COUNCILOR WOMAN, POLLARD, DOCTOR PAULA MCCRANEY AND THEN, UH, COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY ON YESTERDAY. SO WE HAVE A GREAT WORKING RELATIONSHIP, AND HE MENTIONED THAT IN THE FORUM. UM BECAUSE WHEN, UM AN INCIDENT HAPPENED AT SAINT MATTHEW'S AND HIS SWAT TEAM WAS NOT AVAILABLE. MY SWAT TEAM WENT AND WE HELPED CLEAR THAT SCENE, UM, FOR SAINT MATTHEW'S, AND SO WE DO HAVE A GREAT WORKING RELATIONSHIP. SO VICE VERSA. YES. OK I GOT TWO MORE QUICK QUESTIONS. UM HOW EXACTLY HOW MANY RETIREES ARE FILLING, UM, SPOTS. SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT 100. IF I STAND TO BE CORRECTLY CORRECT IT ABOUT 100 AND 30 THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW RETIREES HAVE THAT ARE ON OUR DEPARTMENT. AND THEN WE HAVE ROOM. UM PER THE CB A, UM, AND STATE LAW THAT WE CAN GO A LITTLE BIT MORE AND ADD ON A LITTLE BIT MORE RETIREES. SO THERE IS A CAP SO WE CAN ONLY DO 10% OF OUR AUTHORIZED STRENGTH. SO TECHNICALLY, I CAN HIRE AN ADDITIONAL 100 AND 50 MORE OFFICERS GIVE OR TAKE RETIREES. UM IF THEY WANNA COME BACK TO THE DEPARTMENT OK, AND YOU HAVE 100 AND 30 RIGHT NOW. ROUGHLY GIVE OR TAKE. YES, MA'AM. OK UM AND THEN WHAT PERCENTAGE OF YOUR PAYROLL DOES OVERTIME CONSTITUTE? I DON'T HAVE THAT THAT FIGURE, BUT I WILL SUBMIT TO YOU THAT 95 TO 98% OF OUR BUDGET IS JUST PERSONNEL. UM IT IS A SALARY. I BENEFITS. UM, SO IT'S THAT IS OUR BUDGET. OK, ONE MORE QUESTION. HOW MANY SEX CRIME OFFICERS HER PERSONNEL DO WE HAVE AND IS THAT ENOUGH? WE AGAIN THE DEPARTMENT IS NOT AT THE NUMBERS THAT I WANT IT TO BE. UM SO, YES, WE NEED MORE SEX CRIMES INVESTIGATORS ADDED, UM WE DO HAVE 2 TO 3. CIVILIAN INVESTIGATORS, UM, ASSIGNED TO THAT UNIT TWO TO ACTUALLY HELP AUGMENT, UM, THE SHORTAGE, BUT I CAN GET YOU THOSE EXACT NUMBERS. OK I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU'RE WELCOME. ALSO FAILED TO AT THE BEGINNING TO UM UH, LET YOU KNOW THAT UH, COUNCILMAN PAGE AND COUNCILWOMAN PARISH WRIGHT HAVE EXCUSE EVIDENCES. ALTHOUGH WE MIGHT SEE COUNCILWOMAN PARISH RIGHT, SHE SAID SHE MIGHT MAKE PART. UH, COUNCILMAN HUDSON. THANK YOU.CHAIR. UM GIVEN THE FACT THAT THE, UM PAID OVERTIME FOR DISTRICT 23 EXCEEDS EVERY OTHER DISTRICT IN THIS ROOM. UH, AT LEAST TWO ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE BECAUSE OF THE APPLEGATE THING.
IT'S GOING TO BE HARD FOR ME TO SHOW THROW ANY SHADE ON ON ANYONE ELSE FOR DOING THAT, UM, AND WE HAVE WE HAVE FOCUSED ON THE DOLLARS, UM, FOR OVERTIME IN THIS CONVERSATION AS WE SHOULD, BECAUSE THIS IS A BUDGET COMMITTEE. UM BUT I DON'T THINK THAT WE CAN IGNORE THE FACT THAT EVEN IF ALL OF THE DOLLARS WERE THERE OVER TIME FOR A POLICE OFFICER IS DIFFERENT THAN OVER TIME FOR ANYONE ELSE. BEING A POLICE OFFICER. IS NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN JUST TURN OFF AND TURN ON. THERE'S SOME SOME DECOMPRESSION THAT HAS TO TAKE PLACE WHEN YOU COME COME OFF DUTY. MHM. AND IF WE ARE CONSTANTLY RELYING ON OVERTIME THERE. THERE'S A DOLLAR IMPACT TO THE CITY. BUT THERE IS A QUALITY OF LIFE IMPACT TO THAT POLICE OFFICER. THAT WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF, I THINK, UM SO SOLVING THE OVERTIME PROBLEM IS MORE THAN JUST DOLLARS AND CENTS IS MY POINT THERE? UH, AND THAT THAT IS YET ANOTHER REASON WHY WE NEED TO WORK ON IT. UH, UH TOGETHER. UM THE FACT THAT WE HAVE RETIREES THAT ARE WANTING TO COME BACK ON I THINK SPEAKS VOLUME. TO YOUR LEADERSHIP. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. UM BUT BACK BACK TO THE APPLEGATE THING. I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH. FOR WHAT LNPD HAD DID. DURING THAT TIME. IT WAS. IT WAS AN INCREDIBLE
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TIME. UM THERE WAS THERE WAS A POLICE OFFICER THAT WAS NEARLY KILLED. UH, DURING THAT TIME BY A STORM THAT CAME THROUGH IN 100 YEAR OLD TREE FELL ON THEIR ON HER CAR. UH, SO THAT THAT WAS A SCARY TIME FOR A LOT OF REASONS FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. UM BUT THE NEIGHBORS IN THAT AREA. UM ALONG APPLEGATE UH, WE'RE CONTINUOUSLY CALLING ME DURING THAT TIME. IN TALKING ABOUT HOW PROFESSIONAL THE POLICE OFFICERS WERE. I MEAN, THEY WERE THEY WERE THE PEOPLE WERE MAKING CAKES AND TAKING FOOD TO THEM, AND, UH, THEY CONSIDERED HIM PART OF THE FAMILY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK UM, BUT JUST JUST THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT LNP DID. YOU KNOW, L NPD DID DURING THAT TIME. UM AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP TO LNPD. THANK YOU FOR THANK YOU, SIR. A QUICK QUESTION. DID YOU SAY THAT? 10% SO, UH DID YOU SAY BY STATE LAW? YES. YES, IT IS. IT GIVES US A CAP. UM 10% OF YOUR TOTAL. YES SO MY AUTHORIZED STRENGTH IS 1328 10% 10% OF THAT, AND SO CHAIR. I FORGOT TO SAY POSSIBLE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE MORE THAN 10% OF YOUR ACTUAL PEOPLE ON THAT ARE ARTHRO RIGHT THERE. I FORGOT ONE THING WITH ALL THAT OVERTIME THAT DID GET PAID FOR THE APPLICATE THING. I WOULD I WOULD SUBMIT THAT IT'S A BEST PRACTICE TO GET THE FEDS TO PAY FOR IT. YES. OH, NO. SO I'M GONNA JUMP IN. I'VE GOT IT. II I HAD A NOTE. I'M SAYING TO J TO COUNCILMAN HUDSON. ASK IT AS A QUESTION. ASK IT AS A QUESTION. UM SO YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, UM, A REIMBURSEMENT FOR THAT, BUT I WAS CURIOUS. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH YOU CAN DIVULGE. BUT WHERE WOULD THAT REIMBURSEMENT COME FROM? AND WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? LIKE, I DON'T NEED A NUMBER EXACTLY. BUT IS A LOT OF IT REIMBURSABLE SOME OF IT REIMBURSED. REVERSAL REIMBURSABLE SO I DON'T HAVE THAT IT'S STILL WORKING THAT OUT THAT FINITE NUMBER, BUT YES. AND THAT WOULD BE THROUGH I'M CURIOUS IS THAT LIKE THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IS THAT THROUGH THE FEMA IS IT THROUGH WHERE? WHERE WOULD EPA EPA EPA EPA, SO THAT'S GONNA BE HOW MUCH OF THAT WOULD COVER POLICE VERSUS HOW MUCH THAT'S GOING TO COVER THE CRANES AND ALL THE OTHER STUFF THAT THEY BROUGHT IN? DIDN'T COVER THAT COST. DID YOU? OR DID YOU? I. I MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADD SOME SOME INFORMATION HERE. WHAT WHAT? I WAS TOLD BY THE DIRECTOR OF THE EPA THAT WAS ON SITE. WAS THAT IT WAS ALL INCLUSIVE. OK THE 1.6 MILLION WAS GOING TO ALL BE PAID FOR CRANES FOR THE MOVEMENT FOR THE STORAGE OVER IN DISTRICT 14 FOR THE POLICE OFFICERS.EVERYTHING WAS GOING TO BE REIMBURSED. AND DO WE HAVE A SENSE OF WHEN THAT MIGHT BE? I DON'T I DON'T. BUT I CAN FOLLOW UP. WE WILL LOOK FORWARD TO WHAT THE NUMBER IS. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. COUNCILOR. NO. THANK YOU. CHAIR. APPRECIATE IT. A COUPLE OF QUICK ONES. UM I HAVEN'T BEEN ON ON COUNCIL FOR ALL THAT LONG, SO I JUST WANTED TO GET IN UNDER UNDERSTANDING OF IF WE WERE AT FULL FORCE. WHAT WOULD OUR UM NON SCHEDULED OVERTIME NUMBERS LOOK LIKE I MEAN, COMPARED TO WHAT I'M SEEING HERE BETWEEN 23 AND 24. SO PICTURE IT AS THAT WOULD BE THE REGULAR BUDGET AMOUNT. SO FOR THE OFFICERS IF I WAS AT FULL CAPACITY WITH THE 272, IT PROBABLY BE A LITTLE BIT OVER ON , UH, SCHEDULE OVERTIME AMOUNT, SO IT MIGHT BE AT 4 MILLION BECAUSE YOU'RE TAKING IN ALL OF THE SALARIES, THE BENEFITS AND SO FORTH. SO I IT'S REALLY IT'S REALLY THE SAME. UM I'M JUST INSERTING EXTRA THE SAME PERSON TO WORK A FEW HOURS OVER. HERE AND THERE AND SO AGAIN. YES. AND THEN I GUESS SOMEWHAT RELATED TO THAT IN TERMS OF THE TOTAL FORCE, AND, UM, IT IS A LITTLE BIT UM, FRUSTRATING FOR ME TO SEE THAT IN FY 23. WE HAD 1000 52 SWORN PERSONNEL AND FY 24. WE'RE WE'RE SLIGHTLY BETTER, BUT IT'S FRUSTRATING TO ME THAT WE'RE NOT MAKING UP MORE GROUND. I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF OFFICERS THAT ARE LATER IN THEIR CAREERS.
CAN YOU GIVE ME KIND OF A PICTURE AS TO WHAT THAT AVERAGE AGE AVERAGE AMOUNT OF SERVICE TIME PEOPLE HAVE IN AND I'M I'M I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT AS WE HIRE MORE OFFICERS THAT THAT NUMBER WOULD START, YOU KNOW, INCHING BACK TO A PLACE WHERE WE CAN START MAKING UP MORE GROUND.
JUST WONDERED IF YOU COULD PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE COLOR ON THAT. ABSOLUTELY SO. I'M
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GONNA LET LIEUTENANT COLONEL OWENS JUMP IN ON THAT FACET. SURE AND WE CAN GET YOU THE EXACT NUMBERS. WE DO A MONTHLY MONTHLY CENSUS OF YOU KNOW, ALL ALL THE DEMOGRAPH DEMOGRAPHICS OF OUR DEPARTMENT, I WILL SAY, UH, ANECDOTALLY WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS. WE ARE FAIRLY YOUNG DEPARTMENT. UM, WE HAVE, UM AND I DON'T MEAN THAT IN A NEGATIVE WAY. I MEAN, WE HAVE A LOT OF SOLID YOUNG OFFICERS. UM, BUT WE ARE AS A WHOLE, A FAIRLY YOUNG DEPARTMENT. UM AND THAT THAT HOLDS TRUE. UH, IT ALL IT ALL RANKS. UM, WE HAVE WE HAVE A LOT OF YOUNG YOUNG OFFICERS.AGAIN I CAN GET YOU THE EXACT NUMBERS THROUGH THE CENSUS THAT WE DO EVERY MONTH. UH, BUT WE LIKE I SAID, AS AS A WHOLE, WE'RE FAIRLY YOUNG DEPARTMENT. I CAN GET YOU THE AGE. UM ON THAT, UM, THE OTHER AGENT OVER THERE? YEAH, AND AS A FOLLOW UP WHILE YOU'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT THAT ARE IN TERMS OF RETENTION AND BEING ABLE TO RETAIN FOR A LONGER AMOUNT OF TIME. SOME OF THE OFFICERS THAT WE'VE TRAINED OVER THE LAST YOU KNOW, HANDFUL OF YEARS ARE THOSE NUMBERS LOOKING BETTER AS WELL THAT WE ARE ABLE TO RETAIN PEOPLE FOR LONGER THAN WE WERE BEFORE. YES YES. ABSOLUTELY SO WE ARE RETAINING THEM A LITTLE BIT LONGER. UM, AGAIN. NORMAL ATTRITION. REGARDLESS OF RETIREMENTS. UM BUT WHEN AN OFFICER IS RETIRING, AND THEN THEY'RE ABLE TO BE OUT FOR 30 TO 60 DAYS AND THEN DECIDE I WANNA COME BACK. THAT'S A WIN FOR US.
UM AND WE'RE SEEING THAT AND AGAIN. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THIS STABILITY YOUNOW, GOING ON WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT, AND IT'S WORKING. UM SO AGAIN. YES WE'RE SEEING THAT PEOPLE ARE WANTING TO COME BACK, ANDT HAS STABLE, STABLE OUT THUS FAR. SO AGAIN. WE'RE NOW WE'RE AT THIS DUMPING OUT STAGE. UM, LIKE ALL DEPARTMENTS GO THROUGH YOU HAVE A GROUP OF OFFICERS THAT HAVE REACHED A 20 YEAR MARK, AND THEN YOU HAVE ANOTHER GROUP MAYBE NEXT YEAR TO REACH THE 25 MARK, AND THEN THEY'RE THEY'RE READY TO RETIRE AND RIGHTFULLY SO. THEY'VE DONE THEIR DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE FOR THE DEPARTMENT. BUT I AM HOPEFUL. UM, AS THEY CONTINUE TO SEE, UM LNPD GROWING IN SO MANY WAYS WITH THE COMMUNITY AND HOW WE'RE DOING THINGS DIFFERENTLY, THAT THEY WILL CONSIDER TO COME ON BACK HOME AND GIVE ME ANOTHER FIVE YEARS. UM, SO THAT'S THAT'S THE GOAL. THAT'S HELPFUL. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. NO, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD ANY. IF YOU WANT THE NUMBERS, I JUST A BRIEF SNAPSHOT. MIND YOU. THIS IS AGE. THIS IS NOT YEARS OF SERVICE, OBVIOUSLY, UM, AT THE RANK OF OFFICER 20 TO 25. WE HAVE 44 AT THE AGES OF 26 TO 30. WE'RE AT 100 AND 7731 TO 35 100 AND 8936 TO 40, 100 AND 28. AND THEN IT SORT OF STARTS TO DROP PERCEPT AFTER THAT. UM, BUT THAT'S JUST KIND OF A BRIEF SNAPSHOT. VERY GOOD WHEN YOU SAY NORMAL ATTRITION, WHAT IS WHAT IS A NORMAL ATTRITION? FOR UH, THE DEPARTMENT MINUS RETIREMENTS AND YOU CAN'T AFFORD YOU. THAT'S THE ROUGH LIKE 4545 OFFICERS LEAVING A YEAR. HOW MANY 4545? YES, NOT NOT RETARD, NOT, JUST LEAVING JUST NORMAL RESIGNS. RESIGNATIONS RETIREMENTS IS AVERAGING LIKE A NORMAL 45 OFFICERS A YEAR. THAT'S A NORMAL ATTRITION. YOU SAY IT DOES INCLUDE RETIREMENT, OR DOES NOT IT DOES. I'M SORRY. IT DOES INCLUDE RETIREMENTS, RESIGNATIONS. COUNCIL MCCRANEY THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU, CHIEF AND YOUR STAFF FOR ALWAYS BEING ACCESSIBLE AND COMING IN AND GIVING US UPDATES AND WILLING TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I WANT TO, UH, GO BACK TO THE OVERTIME AGAIN. LET'S HAVE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT SCHEDULING. THE TRUTH IS, WE HAVE A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS AT COUNCIL ABOUT THE OVERTIME AND THAT SOME ARE HAVING TO SPEND THEIR THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS TO GIVE OVER TIME WHEN YOU HAVE SUCH A LARGE BUDGET OF OVERTIME, SO CAN YOU SPEAK AGAIN ABOUT HOW YOU SCHEDULE AND HOW? WHEN, SAY, DISTRICT EIGHT NEEDS. SOME TYPE OF PICKING ON DISTRICT EIGHT NEED TO PAY OVERTIME OUT OF THEIR MD F. HOW DO YOU LEARN OF THAT MONEY THAT MIGHT BE ALLOCATED FOR THAT. AND HOW DO YOU ASSIGN THE OFFICERS? AND WHAT ARE YOU TAKING THEM FROM? IN ORDER TO ALLOCATE THEIR TIME TO DISTRICT EIGHT? CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT? YES, MA'AM. SO, UM AND AGAIN. WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR COUNSEL TO BECAUSE WE DO. WE'RE WE'RE GRATEFUL THAT WE DO HAVE THE ROOM TO DO THE NON SCHEDULE OVERTIME AND SO AGAIN WHEN COUNCILS ARE HAVING MEETINGS WITH THEIR RESPECTIVE MAJORS WITHIN THEIR DIVISIONS, THEIR
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THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THEIR SPACE. WHAT IS THE CRIME? HOW CAN WE DEVELOP A PLAN TOGETHER? AND SO THE DISCUSSIONS WILL BE OK. WELL I WANT TO DO THIS PARTICULAR CORRIDOR MAJOR, AND I WANNA BRING THESE OFFICERS TOGETHER AND I IT HELPS FUND THAT AND SO WE SAY, WE ACCEPT THAT SO IT HAS TO RUN UP TO SAY I KNOW THAT THIS COUNCIL MEMBER IS ALLOCATING $10,000 TO THAT DIVISION MAJOR, AND IT HAS TO GO SPECIFICALLY TO THAT NOW I HAVE PUT IN A MECHANISM IN PLACE THAT MY TEAM. MY MAJORS SHOULD NOT BE ACCEPTING ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS FUNDS AND I DON'T KNOW I NEED TO SIGN OFF ON THAT AND SAY, I UNDERSTAND IT IS BEING USED FOR THIS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BE CAUGHT OFF GUARD, EITHER. UM WITH THAT CONVERSATION, IT'S NOT FAIR TO ME TO HEAR ABOUT IT WHEN IT'S BEING DISCUSSED AND COUNSEL , SO WE'RE CHANGING EVEN HOW WE OPERATE THAT WAY ONCE THAT IS APPROVED THROUGH THE CHAIN OF COMMAND AND MY DEPUTY CHIEF HERE, HEALEY MUST TELL ME THAT YES, CHIEF, WE'RE GETTING $1000. HERE IT IS. THIS IS GOING FOR THIS, ? AND THEN WE'LL APPROVE IT. AND THEN WE DEVELOP THAT PLAN. UM AND THEN THOSE OFFERS TH S A SO IS HOW ARE 'S DONE.KO LET ME ASK YOU IF WE DECIDED AS A COUNCIL THAT WE WOULD NOT EXPAND ANY MORE MD F FUNDS FOR OVERTIME YET WE HAVE THESE NEEDS. WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE FOR US TO SAY, HEY, WE HAVE THIS ISSUE THAT'S HAPPENING. WE NEED SOME OVERTIME FOR ABOUT A WEEK. WOULD WE BE ABLE TO GET THAT FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITIES OR DO WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE MONEY IN ORDER FOR US TO HAVE THAT SAFETY PLAN? NO MA'AM, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO COME UP WITH THAT MONEY. WE WILL STILL WORK THE OVERTIME. IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE. IT'S JUST A IT'S A SCENARIO THAT THOSE FUNDS ARE COMING INTO OUR BUDGET, AND WE CAN SEE THAT IT CAME FROM THE COUNCIL MEMBERS BUDGET AND FROM THEM AND THAT WE ARE ABLE TO SAY THIS OFFICER IS WORKING THIS OVERTIME BECAUSE THIS FUNDING WAS GIVEN TO US BY WAY OF INDIA. THAT IS IT. BUT IF YOU DID NOT GIVE US ANY ADDITIONAL MONIES, COUNSELING MCCRANEY AND WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT HAPPEN. AND WE STILL GONNA GET THAT DETAIL TOGETHER. AND WE'RE STILL GONNA WORK THAT OVERTIME.AND THEN I'M GONNA HAVE TO TELL YOU THIS IS BECAUSE WE NEEDED OUR OFFICERS IN THIS SPACE AND THEREFORE I NEED TO FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT I HAD TO, UH, WE NEEDED OFFICERS IN HERE TO ADDRESS A CRIMINAL. UM COMPONENT, AND SO THEREFORE I NEEDED TO PAY THESE 20 OFFICERS OVER TIME IN ORDER TO ADDRESS INFRACTION, BUT YES, YOU DO NOT. YES, MA'AM. OK SO THERE IN LIES THE PROBLEM BECAUSE AS WE'RE HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS, GIVING INDIA FUNDS AND SOME NOT, AND SOME STILL NEEDING ASSISTANCE IS THERE ANY WAY YOU CAN CAN I JUSTIFY THE BUDGET THAT YOU HAVE FOR OVERTIME? AND THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT YOU MAKE WHEN YOU GET THE MONEY FROM THE DIFFERENT COUNCIL MEMBERS. HOW CAN YOU JUSTIFY HERE'S OUR BUDGET THEN THIS IS WHAT WE GOT FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO THIS IS NOW WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE BUDGETED DOLLARS THAT WE WOULD HAVE USED. HAD WE NOT GOTTEN THE MONEY FROM METRO COUNCIL BECAUSE WE'RE IN BUDGET SEASON AND WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO ACCURATELY BUDGET DOLLARS AND NOT HAVE TO DEPEND ON NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUND. IF WE DON'T HAVE TO, BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH TO DO WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE CAN RECONCILE THE TWO ABSOLUTELY ABSOLUTELY ONE OF THE SPACES THAT WE'RE IN, UM AND AGAIN, I NEED FOR OUR OVERTIME BUDGET TO, UM STILL BE HONEST WITH YOU TO STILL BE ROBUST BECAUSE AGAIN, I NEED TO, UH, ENSURE THAT THE CITY IS SAFE BY FILLING IN THESE GAPS BECAUSE I'M STILL 272 OFFICER SHORES. WE MUST CONTINUE TO MEET THE SERVICE DEMANDS OF THE COMMUNITY. F. UM EVEN IF I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE OUTSIDE OF THAT I STILL HAVE THE CALL RUNS FOR SERVICE AND IN SOME CALL RUNS FOR SERVICE TAKE US OVER EVEN WELL OVER THE ALLOTTED TIME IN WHICH WE'RE RESPONDING TO THE D PROPER INVESTIGATION, SO THAT STILL IS THERE, BUT NONETHELESS, UM, ANY DETAILS THAT WE NEED TO CREATE, WE WILL CREATE IT AND THEN SAY THIS WILL BE DONE. IN ADDITION TO OUR DAY TO DAY TASK, AND SO AGAIN, IT'S ONE OF THOSE. YOU JUST GOTTA MANAGE IT. IF UH, WE HAVE A AREA WE HAVE A DETAIL. I NEED TO PUT THIS, UM, CHIEF'S CRIME REDUCTION PLAN BACK IN PLACE, SO WE CAN, UH, PROMISE SPIKED IN CERTAIN AREAS. I NEED TO DEVELOP THAT TEAM. THAT TEAM WILL BE CREATED AND IT WILL BE FUNDED THROUGH OVERTIME BECAUSE WE'RE SO SHORT STAFF AND PEOPLE ARE STILL RUNNING FROM CALL TO CALL, SO THAT'S THE ADJUSTMENT. THAT'S
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THE BALANCE. UM AND I DON'T WANT I DON'T WANT COUNCIL TO FEEL THAT THEY HAVE TO GIVE US UM ND A FUNDS BECAUSE YOU HAVE OTHER THINGS THAT YES, YOU CAN DO AND WE'RE SO SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. BUL SHORT, NO MATTER WHAT. AND THE CITY HAS THESE SPONSORED EVENTS THAT WE'RE MANDATED TO COVER AND WE AND WE COVER THEM WITHOUT WITHOUT FAIL, AND THEN WITHOUT EXCUSE I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT DURING THE BUDGET CONVERSATIONS. YOU ARE INDEED ASKING FOR THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT YOU NEED FOR OVERTIME AND THAT WE'RE APPROVING WHAT YOU REALLY NEED AND NOT FACTORING IN . PERHAPS YOU'LL GET SOME EXTRA DOLLARS FROM MD F FROM METRO COUNCIL. ABSOLUTELY. YOU'RE CORRECT. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS I OFTEN HEAR ABOUT PATROLLING AND PEOPLE ARE SAYING THEY DON'T SEE LNPD OUT IN THE COMMUNITIES ENOUGH. SO CAN YOU SPEAK TO HOW YOU ARE SCHEDULING THE TIME FOR OFFICERS TO BE OUT? AND WHAT ABOUT FOOT PATROL? YES AND SO, UM, AGAIN, WE'RE DOING A LITTLE BIT BETTER. I. I KNOW THAT ALL COMMUNITY MEMBERS WANT TO SEE US EVERY MINUTE OF THE DAY, RIGHT? THAT MAKES EVERYBODY FEEL GOOD. AND I GET THAT AND SO I'M ASKING MY OFFICERS TO DO BETTER IN THAT SPACE. UM WHEN THEY'RE GOING FROM CALL TO CALL SLOW DOWN A LITTLE BIT. TAKE A MINUTE. IF YOU CAN PAUSE, UM, IN BETWEEN, UM GO INSIDE STORES. ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY. UM, AGAIN IS IT'S JUST WE GOTTA DO IT IN REPETITION TO GET THIS COMMUNITY AND THE INTERACTIONS AND I KNOW SOME OF OUR SUBURBAN UM CITY. UM, CONSTITUENTS THEY WANNA SEE LNPD. UM BUT WE'RE WE'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE, AND SO AGAIN, IT'S THE JUGGLING ACT, UM, BUTTON WRITING DOWN. UH, WE'RE DOING A LITTLE BIT BETTER IN EACH DIVISION. EACH DIVISION DOES HAVE A WALKING PATROL, UM, IN THEIR AREAS THAT THEY'RE DESIGNATING AND SELLING OFFICERS THAT I NEED FOR YOU TO GET OUT OF YOUR CAR AND BE MINDFUL AND WALK THESE AREAS. UM, SO WE'RE DOING THAT, BUT ALSO TOO IN OUR DOWNTOWN DISTRICT AS WELL. UM WE'RE VERY WE'RE MORE INTENTIONAL ABOUT SENDING MOUNTAIN PATROL DOWN WHEN THEY'RE ABLE TO GO DOWN THERE AND OTHER SPACES AS WELL. DAP UNIT WALKING ON THE A TV S. WE NEED TO BE MORE VISIBLE. AND SO I'M HOPING THAT YOU'LL SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE INCREASE. UM MOVEMENT IN THAT SPACE. UM BUT WE'RE TRYING TO DO A LITTLE BIT BETTER. AND I HAVE HEARD SOME OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS DO SEE AN UPTICK IN SEEING US AND STOPPING AND PAUSING AND HAVING A CONVERSATION. UM AND I GOTTA CONTINUE AND MY EXECUTIVE TEAM AND COMMANDERS. THEY UNDERSTAND THAT WE GOTTA ALWAYS CONTINUE TO MODEL THE WAY I NEED. I'M ALWAYS GONNA SHOW YOU WHAT I EXPECT OF YOU. UM AND SO AGAIN, UM, OUR OFFICERS I THINK THEY'RE DOING A LITTLE BIT BETTER. CAN WE DO MORE? YES IF I GET ADDITIONAL PEOPLE TO JOIN THE FORCE, WE CAN DO A LITTLE BIT MORE. UM BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'LL IT'LL FREE US UP FROM FROM GOING FROM CALL TO CALL SO MUCH AND WE COULD JUST SLOW DOWN. WELL, I APPRECIATE YOU AND LET ME JUST SAY DON'T BEAT YOURSELF UP BECAUSE I SEE YOU. YOU ABSOLUTELY DO GIVE OF YOUR TIME. AND SO DOES YOUR COMMAND STAFF. YOUR EXECUTIVE TEAM. I DO WANT TO SEE MORE OF YOUR POLICE OFFICERS AT THAT LEVEL, BUT YOU DO A GREAT JOB AND YOU ARE ACCESSIBLE AND I APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN. YOU YOU MENTIONED, UM THAT I THINK YOU SAID THIS. SO IF THERE IS AN ISSUE IN A PARTICULAR DISTRICT THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED, AND YOU'RE DOING THAT WITH OVERTIME. WHETHER IT'S CONSTANT ACCOUNTS OR COMES FROM THE BUDGET, WHATEVER. SO IS THAT SO IT IS. THE PEOPLE AND THE OFFICERS IN THAT DIVISION. UM DECIDE OR CHOOSE TO ACCEPT THAT OR WHATEVER IT IS. SO YOU DON'T GO OUTSIDE OF DIVISION, RIGHT? IS THAT CORRECT? YES WE DON'T TRY TO GO OUTSIDE DIVISION TRY TO MANAGE. SO WHAT IS THAT? SO IF YOU'VE GOT THREE THINGS, YOU GOT AN OVERTIME. THAT IS A SCHEDULED OVERTIME YOU NEED WE NEED YOU AT A CITY EVENT. AND THEN YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE. THAT IS, UH, A SPEEDING DETAIL OR WHATEVER. AND THIS IS THE TIME THAT WE NEED YOU TO DO. SO MAYBE THERE'S TWO OR THREE THINGS THAT ARE POSSIBILITIES THAT THEY CHOOSE FROM THOSE. IS THAT HOW THAT WORKS? YES. SO WE'RE AGAIN IF IT MANDATORY EVENT THAT WE'RE GONNA COVER THAT MANDATORY EVENT FIRST , AND THEN WE NEED TO MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS WITH THE OTHER TWO DETAILS. WE WILL AND WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO OTHER OFFICERS TO WORK.UM IF WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH WITHIN THAT RESPECTIVE DIVISION, THEIR SHORT AS WELL AND YOU GOT OFFICERS THAT JUST CAN'T DO IT. WE OPEN IT UP AND SAY WE NEED WE GOT SOME OVERTIME. COME ON OVER AND FILL THE GAP. SO WHEN YOU'RE SAYING MANDATORY EVENTS JUST SO YOU HAVE SO YOU ASSIGN OFFICERS TO WHEN IT'S MANDATORY OR THEY'RE CHOOSING IT. WHAT ARE THEY ALWAYS CHOOSING? NO THEY'RE SIGNED. THEY'RE THEY'RE SIGNED IS MANDATORY. COUNCILOR KRAMER. THANK YOU. UM AND I. I REALLY APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUE'S QUESTIONS. UM A LOT OF WHAT I WANTED THEY WE'VE DRILLED DOWN, BUT, UH, THERE'S ONE JUST LAST. PLEASE I'M CURIOUS ABOUT, UM SO STICKING ON THIS OVER TIME AND
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IN SPECIFIC DISTRICTS, UM IF A COUNCIL MEMBER SITS DOWN AND SAYS THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO US, UM, RATHER, THEY DO OR DON'T WELL, LET'S SAY THEY DO USE THEIR NEIGHBOR DEVELOPMENT FUNDS. UM YOU KNOW YOU HAD MENTIONED LIKE, UH, ONE COUNCIL MEMBER WAS ASKING FOR A SPECIAL HELP AROUND THE HOLIDAYS. YOU MENTIONED D YOU OUT BROADWAY BEING AN ISSUE AND SO I HAVE TO THINK, AND I'M JUST GONNA SAY I THINK THIS IS TRUE. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT, UM, THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO ANYWAY. RIGHT SO YOU WOULD YOU WOULD. IF YOU HAD OFFICERS. YOU WOULD BE TAKING CARE OF THAT HOLIDAY STUFF. IF YOU HAD OFFICERS, YOU WOULD BE TAKING CARE OF THAT THAT DO MONITORING ON BROADWAY. IF YOU HAD OFFICERS, SO IN THE COUNCIL PERSON COMES IN AND SAYS THIS IS IMPORTANT TO ME. IT WAS ALREADY IMPORTANT TO YOU. NOW THEY'RE COMING IN AND SAYING I'M GONNA ADD MONEY. TO COUNCILMAN HUDSON'S POINT. YOUR OVERTIME IS FINITE. WE CAN DO WHATEVER WE WANT WITH THE BUDGET. THE BOTTOM LINE IS YOUR OVERTIME IS FINITE.AND THE MORE YOU PUSH UP AGAINST THE EDGE OF THAT ENVELOPE, THE GREATER STRESS YOU'RE PUTTING ON YOUR OFFICERS. SO THERE HAS TO BE SOME DECISION. AT SOME POINT. THIS IS WHERE WE WANT. THIS IS WHERE WE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THIS IS WHERE YOU SEE THE NEED AND THIS IS THE OVERTIME. YOU HAVE. THIS IS HOW YOU'RE GONNA PLUG IT. THEN SOMEONE ACCOUNTS PERSON COMES IN AND SAYS I'M GONNA GIVE YOU NDF MONEY TO DO THIS OTHER THING. WHAT WHAT TAKES PRIORITY THERE. HOW DO YOU IS I'M RESTING ON MY COMMANDERS TO MAKE WISE DECISIONS, RIGHT? SO IT'S CHALLENGING. IT'S CHALLENGING. SO WHY WHY DECISION , BUT, UM, WE DO HAVE OFFICERS THAT ARE IN THIS SPACE THAT THEY ARE VOLUNTEERING TO WORK. THOSE PARTICULAR DETAILS AND THEN OVER TIME, AND SO WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE, UM TO HAVE INDIVIDUALS AND OFFICERS TO FILL IN THAT GAP. UM BUT IF WE HAD INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE ALREADY ON THE DEPARTMENT I CAN GET 250 PLUS OFFICERS HIRED. IT JUST MAKES THINGS BETTER. UM THEY CAN FILL IN THAT WE KNOW THAT THIS PARTICULAR TIME OF THE YEAR WITHIN OUR CITY GETS A LITTLE BIT TENSE. THEN I ALREADY KNOW I GOTTA CREATE A CERTAIN KIND OF, UH, FORCE RIGHT THERE IN ORDER TO ADDRESS IT. SO IT'S ONE OF THOSE JUST MANAGING OUR PERSONNEL. BUT RIGHT NOW, UM, WE MAKE THOSE THE NECESSARY ADJUSTMENTS AND I'M RESTING ON MY MAJORS, UM, TO MAKE THOSE WISE DECISIONS, AND THUS FAR THEY HAVE BEEN DOING OK, BUT IT IS A JUGGLING. IT'S JUST A JUGGLING ACT. IT IS, BUT I DON'T WANNA EVER SIT HERE AND SAY THAT WE ARE EVER USING THAT BECAUSE WE'RE SHORT. WE'RE MAKING EXCUSES. NO WE'RE JUST GONNA GET IT DONE, UM, AT THE SAME TIME, THINK ABOUT THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS OF THE OFFICERS, BUT I DO WANT THEM TO TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES. UM BUT THUS FAR WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS NECESSARY. GREAT. THANK YOU. UM IN A ONE. I HAVE A QUESTION IN IN. UH, IT'S A FOLLOW UP. I THINK TO WHAT? COUNCILMAN ARTHUR HAD ASKED YOU. UM, AS I REMEMBER, HIS QUESTION WAS, IF YOU GIVE HIM A SENSE HOW MUCH WE ARE PAYING OFFICERS ON OVERTIME TO DO WORK IN SUBURBAN CITIES. AS YOU'RE PULLING THOSE NUMBERS TOGETHER. WOULD YOU DO ME A FAVOR AND CALCULATE WHAT WOULD YOUR DEPARTMENT NEED? AS FAR AS OFFICERS IF EVERY SUBURBAN CITY IN METRO LOCAL DECIDED THEY DIDN'T WANNA HAVE A POLICE DEPARTMENT ANYMORE, BECAUSE YOU YOU'RE OBLIGATED, METRO LOUISVILLE IS OBLIGATED TO POLICING IN ALL OF JEFFERSON COUNTY. SO IF THOSE SUBURBAN CITIES ALL TOMORROW DECIDED THEY WEREN'T DOING POLICING ANYMORE.
YOU'D HAVE TO HIRE OFFICERS. ABSOLUTELY THE THING THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M SAYING OUT INTO THE PUBLIC. I KNOW YOU GET IT. UM SOME OF OUR SUBURBAN DEPARTMENTS ARE MORE WELL STAFFED THAN EVEN WHAT YOUR NUMBERS WOULD RECOMMEND. SO IF YOU WERE TO TAKE OVER POLICING, AND I REPRESENT THE CITY OF JEFFERSON TOWN, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU WERE TO TAKE OVER POLICING IN JEFFERSON TOWN, OUR STANDARD FOR POLICING IS LESS THAN WHAT JEFFERSON TOWNS IS. SO IT'S NOT A ONE FOR ONE. I CAN'T SIMPLY SAY, TAKE JEFFERSON TOWN. GET RID OF ALL THEIR POLICE. THAT'S HOW MANY OFFICERS YOU NEED. I KNOW THAT'S NOT TRUE. UM BUT I ALSO KNOW YOU WOULD NEED TO HAVE A NUMBER OF OFFICERS IN THAT SPACE THAT THEN YOUR BUDGET WOULD HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR SO IF YOU COULD, AND AGAIN. I DON'T KNOW HOW DIFFICULT I'M HOPING THAT'S NOT TOO HARD. UM, TAKE A LOOK AT THE AREA THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO TAKE ON HOW MANY OFFICERS THAT MEANS YOU WOULD HAVE TO ADD. AND THEN IF YOU COULD GIVE US A SENSE OF ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK THAT WOULD COST METRO LOUIS? THANK YOU ABOUT FORECASTS, AND ALSO SO I WANT TO BE FOR CLARITY. SO WE DO HAVE OFFICERS THAT IF THEY WORK OFF DUTY, WHICH IS AN EXTRA JOB THEY DO SUPPORT COUNCILMAN ARTHUR.
THEY SUPPORT THOSE SUBURBAN CITIES AND THAT CAPACITY, BUT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MOU SUPPORTING THOSE DEPARTMENTS IF THEY CANNOT MEET A CERTAIN INVESTIGATION, AND THEY AND THEY'RE JUST SO TAXED, WE WILL GO AND SUPPORT THEM AND WE WILL EXPAND OVER TIME TO ORDER TO HELP. THEM BUT OFF. THERE ARE OFFICERS THAT DO DO OFF DUTY WORK IN THOSE SPACES, AND SO
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AGAIN, THOSE NUMBERS THAT I PROVIDE TO YOU, COUNCILMAN, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GONNA BE EXORBITANT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T, UM, BEEN JUST REALLY TASKED WITH COMING IN AND HELPING THEM WORK A HOMICIDE. UM LIKE WEST BEUTEL THAT THEY HAD A HOMICIDE THERE. UM, WHAT A YEAR OR TWO AGO WE INVESTIGATED IT. UM BECAUSE THAT WE ARE IN THE WORKING MOU WE TAKE ON THAT AND IT REFLECTS IN ON OUR NUMBERS. WE'LL HAVE LIKE 30 HOMICIDES. BUT THEN 31 THAT ONE IS WEST MUTUAL. SO THAT'S HOW WE WORK THAT THANK YOU AND THEN I. I HAD TWO QUESTIONS SEPARATE FROM SOME SHIFTING GEARS ENTIRELY. UM, THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION, BOTH THE PREVIOUS MAYOR AND NOT THE IMMEDIATE PREVIOUS CHIEF, BUT A COUPLE CHIEFS AGO, SO THIS IS NO REFLECTION ON THE CURRENT POLICE DEPARTMENT AT ALL. AND PLEASE KNOW IT'S NO NO REFLECTION ON THE CURRENT MAYOR. OK THIS IS THIS IS A CONVERSATION THAT WAS HAD WITH THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION. UM WHEN THEY REALIZED THAT THEY WERE RUNNING INTO THE PROBLEM WITH TRAFFIC WITH THE CROSSING GUARDS, THEIR SOLUTION WAS TO PULL CROSSING GUARDS FROM EVERY SUBURBAN CITY. AND TELL THE SUBURBAN POLICE DEPARTMENTS THAT IT WAS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO PUT CROSSING GUARDS IN. I'M SURE AS THE CHIEF OF THE DEPARTMENT, YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THAT THAT WASN'T VERY WELL RECEIVED. UM I'M CURIOUS IF THERE HAS BEEN OR IF YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO UM, REACH OUT TO SOME OF THOSE SUBURBAN POLICE DEPARTMENTS. AND INSTEAD OF SAYING, THIS IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY, WHICH IS CLEARLY NOT, UM, INSTEAD SAY, IS THERE A WAY WE CAN WORK ON SOME KIND OF A PARTNERSHIP? COME SOME KIND OF ARRANGEMENT. UM YOU GUYS HAVE IN YOUR BUDGET, THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT, UM, I'M WONDERING IF THERE WAS A WAY WE COULD ENTER INTO SOME KIND OF A NOT A MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT BECAUSE THAT SAYS WE'RE GONNA SHARES. THIS IS NOT A RESPONSIBILITY THIS BOURBON POLICE DEPARTMENTS HAVE AT ALL. SO IF THEY'RE GONNA TAKE ON THAT RESPONSIBILITY, ONE WOULD EXPECT THAT THEY WOULD BE COMPENSATED. UM I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW IF YOU'D BE INTERESTED IN HAVING A CONVERSATION LIKE THAT.OR IF THOSE CONVERSATIONS HAVE ALREADY TAKEN PLACE. NO, I WILL OPEN THAT DOOR. GREAT THANK YOU.
AND WHILE WE'RE PUSHING AGAINST DOORS, UM, I BELIEVE THIS. SHERIFFS HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO RUN RADAR AND WRITE TICKETS IS THAT ACCURATE? THERE THIS MORNING OFFICERS? YES. AND THEY HAVE THEY HAVE THE CARS. CLEARLY I DON'T HAVE THE I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE THE RADAR EQUIPMENT, BUT THEY THEY CERTAINLY HAVE THE VEHICLES. UM, HAS THERE BEEN AN A CONVERSATION OR A QUESTION WITH THEM? THAT WOULD SAY, IS THERE SOME WAY THAT AT LEAST IN THE SHORT TERM, RIGHT? I'M NOT ASKING FOR A FOREVER, BUT IS THERE A WAY IN THE SHORT TERM THAT WE COULD CONTRACT WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT TO TAKE OVER OUR TRAFFIC RESPONSIBILITIES SO THAT WE COULD FREE UP WHAT FEW OFFICERS ARE DOING TRAFFIC RIGHT NOW AND LET'S FACE IT. DON'T HAVE ENOUGH OFFICERS DOING TRAFFIC RIGHT NOW, UM, THAT WE MIGHT ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO DO A BETTER JOB OF TRAFFIC CONTROL. AND AT THE SAME TIME FREE UP, AT LEAST IN THE INTERIM. UM, A COUPLE OF OFFICERS AGAIN. IS THAT DOOR BEEN PUSHED I HAVEN'T HAD A CONVERSATION WITH SHERIFF AUBREY , UM, CONCERNING, UH, ANY OF THAT, BECAUSE AGAIN, I RESPECT THAT. HE'S IN HIS OWN WHEELHOUSE AND I IN MINE, BUT I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH THEM AND JUST SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, UM, AGAIN. HE'S BEEN SUCH A GREAT PARTNER, UM, IN ALL THINGS, AND SO, OF COURSE, WE CAN OPEN THAT DOOR AND HAVE A CONVERSATION. BUT WE DID, UM, STAFF UP. UM, THE TRAFFIC UNIT. UM THEY WERE THEY WERE CUT AT ONE POINT, AND THEN WE GAVE THEM MORE OFFICERS, UM, IN ORDER TO BEEF IT UP. OUR TRAFFIC IS JUST REALLY, UM, SOMETHING TO DEAL WITH AND SO AGAIN, WE DID GIVE THEM MORE, BUT IT'S JUST SO MUCH THAT WE GOT TO DO IN THAT SPACE WHEN WE'RE STILL I HEAR YOU SAYING I HEAR YOU SAYING WE'RE STILL NOT BACK TO FULL STAFF THERE. UM AND AS YOU'VE MOVED OFFICERS INTO THAT TRAFFIC SPACE, WE'RE STILL SHORT EVERYWHERE ELSE, SO I'M NOT AGAIN. I'M JUST LOOKING FOR WAYS THAT WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, FOLKS HERE IN TOWN WHO ARE MORE FORTUNATE IN TERMS OF STAFFING, UM, NOT TAKING ON YOU KNOW IF THERE'S A MURDER IN MUTUAL I APPRECIATE YOUR HELP BEING MUTUAL, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY IF THERE'S A MURDER IN METRO LOUISVILLE, THAT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. THEY'RE THE PRIMARY, RIGHT BUT NONETHELESS.
IF THEY WEREN'T THERE, YOU'D BE DOING THAT MURDER. IF THEY ARE THERE. YOU'RE NOT DOING SOMETHING ELSE IN WEST MUTUAL THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE DOING THERE. SO, UM YOU KNOW, JUST I'M WONDERING AS WE LOOKED AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE, UM, EVERYTHING I'VE HEARD FROM MASS OUT OF THE STREET, THE METRO COUNCIL SIDE OF THE STREET, BOTH FROM THE CURRENT DEPARTMENT, POLICE DEPARTMENT AND FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND FROM MY SUBURBAN CITIES. UM I'VE NEVER HEARD ANYTHING. LET ME SAY THAT DIFFERENTLY UNDER THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION. I'VE NOT HEARD ANYTHING THAT SAYS THAT YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE A GREAT WORKING RELATIONSHIP. EVERYTHING I'M HEARING IS VERY POSITIVE, SO I'M JUST CURIOUS IF WE WERE TO MAYBE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SOME OF THOSE VERY POSITIVE RELATIONSHIPS AND TRY TO, UM, SEE IF WE MIGHT GET A LITTLE BIT OF HELP. AND IF WE COULD DO THAT AND HERE'S THE REAL QUESTION. IF WE COULD DO
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THAT, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET? WILL DO. I'LL GIVE YOU WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET? LOOK, I HAVE A LOT OF COFFEE CONVERSATIONS. SOUNDS LIKE ALL RIGHT. SORRY. THANK YOU, THOUGH, COUNCIL FOWLER THANK YOU, UH, MR CHAIR. UM, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND CHIEF I YOU. YOU KNOW WHAT MY QUESTION'S GONNA BE ABOUT? I'M AFRAID, UM, WE STILL UM YOU KNOW, ARE EXPERIENCE IN THE FOUR WHEELERS, DIRT BIKE ISSUES AND, UM, I. I DID HAVE A MEETING WITH, UH, MAJOR IN THE THIRD AND, UM, I, I DID REACH OUT TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO SEE IF WE COULD, UM FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAYBE PUT SOME MORE TEETH IN, UM TO OUR ORDINANCES. UM UH, IT IT LOOKS LIKE MOST OF IT'S GONNA RE WE, WE'D HAVE TO RELY ON THE STATE TO DO THAT. AND UM, UM, YOU KNOW THAT THAT USUALLY DOESN'T WORK OUT TOO FAST. AT ANY RATE. MY QUESTION IS, UM ARE ARE YOU PLANNING ON ASKING FOR, UM ANOTHER HELICOPTER IN IN THE, UM IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR. YES MA'AM, WE ARE IN. UM WE'RE IN NEED, UM OF A HELICOPTER. UM IT'S NOT EVEN A WAR. IT IS A NEED, UM, WE ARE WE'RE MAKING DO I'M DOING MORE PATCHWORK? UM ON THE HELICOPTERS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, AND IT'S JUST NOT REALLY BEING, UM GOOD STORES AND FUNDS, BUT WE CANNOT BE WITHOUT A HELICOPTER. UM SO YES, MA'AM. UM, WE ARE IN THE SPACE THAT WE ARE NEEDING, AND I'M HOPING THAT THAT WILL BE FUNDED. UM, IT DOES. TAKE A YEAR. UM IN ORDER TO GET THE AIRCRAFT IN. BUT YES, MA'AM, WE'RE IN THAT SPACE. NOW. WE CAN'T CONTINUE NOT TO HAVE A NEW AIRCRAFT. OK SO ARE YOU JUST ASKING FOR ONE? BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE WERE THREE THAT WERE REQUESTED, AND THERE WAS SOME KIND OF DEAL FOR LIKE $7 MILLION. YOU WOULD HAVE GOTTEN THREE IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET AND THAT DON'T HOLD ME TO THAT. BUT THAT'S WHAT I RECALL BEING THE NUMBER AS FAR WE JUST ASKING FOR ONE. UM THE REAL DESIRE IS TO, UM BUT AGAIN, WE REALLY WANNA BE MINDFUL OF, YOU KNOW AGAIN. I KNOW COUNCILOR HAS DONE A LOT. UM, WITHIN OUR, UH, FUNDING. UM SO I WILL BE MODEST AND JUST GO AHEAD AND I NEED THAT ONE. BUT WE WERE IN THE NEED TO YES, MA'AM. OK DO YOU FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD HELP US IN THE IN THE ISSUES ACROSS THE COUNTY WITH THE, UH, ILLEGAL DIRT BIKE IN A TV? UH, ISSUES? ABSOLUTELY UM, ANY TYPE OF SURVEILLANCE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT IN THE NOT IN THE SPACE WHERE WE ARE CHASING AND NORTH AND IT'S JUST NOT WORTH CHASING, RIGHT. UM WE DON'T WANNA WE CAN'T PUT OUR OFFICERS' LIVES IN DANGER, NOR ON THE INDIVIDUAL THAT, UM, WE'RE DEALING WITH WITH THE INFRACTIONS. IT'S NOT WORTH IT SO, BUT IT DOES HELP US MISSING C AGAIN, IS IT? THE HELICOPTER DOES MORE THAN JUST DO MORE THAN THAT? OF COURSE, LIKE WE ALREADY KNOW, MISSING CHILDREN. ALL OF THAT, UM, IT IS WONDERFUL THAT WE CAN HAVE THE EYES IN THE SKY. YEAH OK, THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION. AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR BEING HERE TODAY. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU, UH, FOR YOU HAVE DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? III I SEE THAT YOU ARE ON HERE. COUNCILMAN HUDSON. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE ARE RUNNING OVER, THOUGH, SO OK, JUST REAL QUICK JUST TO DOVETAIL ON TO, UH, WHAT COUNCIL? I AM GOING TO ASK ABOUT DRONES BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK ABOUT, TOO. GOOD GOOD DRONES HELP TO FILL THE GAP THERE. UM WE? I THINK WE BOUGHT PUT SEVEN PUT ROOM IN THE BUDGET LAST YEAR FOR SEVEN DRONES. I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE HAVE BEEN EFFECTIVE IN IN THE DIRT BIKE. CRIME THAT WE'VE, UH I HAVE THE SAME KIND OF THING GOING ON IN MCNEELY LAKE. IF WE COULD JUST THROW A DRONE UP THERE, FOLLOW THAT DIRT BIKE BACK TO ITS HOUSE, AND THEN GO TAKE THE PARENTS. UH, I DON'T. I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S HAPPENING. MAYBE IT IS HAPPENING. IT HASN'T HAPPENED. UM COUNCILMAN SO WE WOULD NEED TO THE DRONES ARE BEING UTILIZED IN OTHER WAYS. UM BUT AGAIN, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS AND WE JUST GOTTA HAVE SOME TEETH. UM RELATE CITIES, UM, DIRT BIKES AND A TV S. AND JUST WHEN I WENT TO GO VISIT, UH, A YEAR OR SO, DOCTOR SHANKLIN, UM, HOUSE AND I WENT TO HER HOME TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH HER AND JUST TO SEE, UM INDIVIDUALS DRIVING. RECKLESSLY UP AND DOWN HER STREET ON DIRT BIKES. AND I'M SAYING, LIKE, YOU KNOW, SHE'S SHE HAS. SHE NEEDS SOME PEACE OVER HERE, SO IT HAS TO BE SOME TEETH BEHIND IT. WHAT DO WE DO IF WE WHEN WE GET THIS INDIVIDUAL? UM UH, AGAIN TAKING THAT DIRT BITE? UM WE GET A LITTLE BIT DEEPER. LET'S UM LET'S MOVE FORWARD AND CONFISCATE IT AND THEN DESTROY IT. UM AGAIN, UM, WE NEED TO. WE NEED TO GET INTO THAT SPACE. UM, BECAUSE IT'S JUST NOT FAIR, UM, TO HAVE HER AND SHE SAID, LOOK[01:10:03]
AT THAT NOISE, YOU HEAR IT, AND IT'S JUST, UM IT'S JUST UNBEARABLE. AND SO WE TO DO SOMETHING, BUT YES, DRONES WILL ALWAYS HELP, BUT WE JUST NEED SOME TEETH AROUND, UM, BEING ABLE TO ENFORCE IT SO FOR CLARITY. ARE ARE YOU ASKING IF WE COULD IMPLEMENT SOME KIND OF ORDINANCES TO BE ABLE TO CONFISCATE DIRT BIKES? YES SIR. AND SO, UM, COUNCIL AND WOMAN, FOWLER IS WORKING, UM, WORKING WITH THAT AND ON OUR WITH OUR ATTORNEYS IN ORDER TO ASSIST BECAUSE EVERY EVERY CITY ACROSS THE NATION IS REALLY, UM, GRAPPLING WITH THIS ISSUE, UM, AND IT'S JUST BECOMING MORE AND MORE AGGRESSIVE. AND AGAIN. WE GOTTA LOOK AT THE AND YOU GOTTA LOOK AT IT IN ANOTHER WAY TO, UM, THE LOSS OF LIFE. UM, IS INEVITABLE IF WE DON'T ADDRESS THIS THIS BEHAVIOR THANK YOU. COUNCILOR WOMAN, FOWLER. I WOULD BE PLEASED TO COSPONSOR THAT LEGISLATION WITH YOU. YEAH, THANK THANK YOU AND I JUST HAVE TO MENTION, UM, AGAIN THAT I'VE, UM HAD THREE CONSTITUENTS DIE IN MY DISTRICT FROM THE ILLEGAL ACTIVITY OF DIRT BIKES AND A TV S. SO UM, IT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT. BUT THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN HUDSON.AND THANK YOU, CHIEF. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. RIGHT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
WE'RE A LITTLE BIT OVER TIME. WE APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE WITH US TAKING THOSE LAST FEW QUESTIONS.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND WE'LL STAY DIALOGUE AND, UH, WHEN, ESPECIALLY WHEN VERY SHORT ORDER WHEN YOU'RE BACK OVER TO TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET. YES, SIR. THANKS AGAIN FOR BEING HERE.
THANK YOU. YOU'RE SO WELCOME. INSTEAD OF ANY OBJECTIONS WERE ADJOURNED.
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