[00:05:53] METRO TV. WE STARTED IN 30 SECONDS, PLEASE. SO WE. GOOD AFTERNOON. THE TIME IS 4 [Call to Order] [00:06:18] P.M. THIS IS A REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. I AM YOUR CHAIR TAMMY [Roll Call] HAWKINS. TODAY I'M JOINED BY A COMMITTEE MEMBERS. VICE CHAIR. DIANE SAMS COMMITTEE MEMBER, BARBARA SHANKLIN COMMITTEE MEMBER, SHAMEKA PERS RIGHT COMMITTEE BURN PAT MOBILE HILL COMMITTEE MEMBER DOCTOR, RICK BLACKWELL. COMMITTEE MEMBER SCOTT REED AND I HAVE AN EXCUSE ABSENCE FOR COMMITTING MEMBERS. STEWART VINCENT. CLARK COULD YOU PLEASE READ THE VIRTUAL MEETING? LANGUAGE, PLEASE? THIS MEETING IS BEING HELD PURSUANT TO KRS 61.826 IN COUNCIL RULE FIVE A [2. R-025-24     A RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF KENTUCKY GENERAL ASSEMBLY SENATE BILL 13 TO ALLOW THE COMMONWEALTH TO ACT EXPEDITIOUSLY IN THE INTEREST OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND WELFARE. Action Required By: September 2024 Sponsors: Jecorey Arthur (I-4) ] CLARK, PLEASE READ ITEM THREE INTO THE RECORD, PLEASE. A RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF KENTUCKY GENERAL ASSEMBLY SENATE BILL 13 TO ALLOW THE COMMONWEALTH TO ACT EXPEDITIOUSLY IN THE INTEREST OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND WELFARE RIGHT IN FULL. DO I HAVE A MOTION AND A 2ND 2ND? THAT I HAS BEEN PROPERLY MOVED BY METRO COUNCIL MEMBER COMMITTEE MEMBER VICE DAN SIMS AND SECOND BY UM, COMMITTEE MEMBER SHAMEKA PARISH WRIGHT. THE ITEM IS BEFORE US. I BELIEVE SENATOR WHITNEY WESTERFIELD IS HERE TO SPEAK TODAY. I AM NOT SENATOR WESTERFIELD. I AM WHITNEY AUSTIN, WHO IS PART OF THE EFFORT AND I'M HAPPY TO BEGIN. MA'AM. EXCUSE ME. EXCUSE ME. EXCUSE ME. OK? SO WESTERFIELD IS NOT HERE. CORRECT OK? NOT YET. THANK YOU. SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND LET COUNCILMAN UH JCORE. ARTHUR GO AHEAD. AND, UH, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, SIR. YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND SPEAK TO THIS? THANK YOU CHAIR AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING FLEXIBLE WITH THE ORDER OF THE ITEMS. THIS RESOLUTION SUPPORTS SENATE BILL 13, THE CRISIS AVERSION AND RIGHTS RETENTION ACT, A BILL THAT WOULD ALLOW LAW ENFORCEMENT TO TEMPORARILY CONFISCATE FIREARMS FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE A DANGER TO THEMSELVES AND OR OTHERS TODAY WE'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE BILL, ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS AND THEN TABLE IT SO WE CAN HAVE MORE DISCUSSION NEXT COMMITTEE. THE BILL WAS SPONSORED BY KENTUCKY SENATOR WITH THE WESTERFIELD AND DAVID GATES. THEY'VE WORKED WITH A LOT OF PARTNERS, INCLUDING LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND ORGANIZATIONS LIKE WHITNEY STRONG. WE HAVE THE FOUNDER HERE, MISS WHITNEY AUSTIN. I DO SEE SENATOR WESTERFIELD ON. SO IF IT'S OK WITH YOU CHAIR I CAN PASS THE MIC TO HIM. AND THEN WE CAN HEAR FROM MISS AUSTIN AS WELL ABOUT THE BILL. YES YOU CAN. GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD. UH, MR WESTERFIELD. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I APPRECIATE THAT. ARE YOU ALL JUST ASKING FOR A SUMMARY OF WHAT THE BILL IS. WHAT IT DOES? YES, CORRECT. PLEASE. AND IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR POSITION YES, MA'AM. UH, WHITNEY WESTERFIELD, STATE SENATOR FOR THE THIRD SENATE DISTRICT, REPRESENTING ALL OF CHRISTIAN CALDWELL IN MUENBURG COUNTY, DOWN IN WESTERN KENTUCKY, UM SOON THE 13 OTHERWISE KNOWN AS CAR, WHICH STANDS FOR CRISIS AVERSION AND RIGHTS RETENTION. UH, IT'S SIMILAR TO BILLS THAT YOU CAN FIND IN A NUMBER OF OTHER STATES AROUND THE COUNTRY. UH, THOUGH IT IS MATERIALLY DIFFERENT, AND YOU KNOW A COUPLE OF KEY WAYS, BUT THE OBJECTIVE IS TO CREATE A VERY LIMITED UM AND RESPONSIBLE UH, OPPORTUNITY TO INTERVENE IN CRISIS. WHILE STILL PROTECTING CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. UM RIGHT NOW, THERE IS NO MECHANISM OTHER THAN INVOLUNTARY COMMITMENT. TO REMOVE FIREARMS FROM AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE SOMEONE IS STRUGGLING WITH MENTAL HEALTH CRISES OF SOME KIND, UH OR UM LEAVING THEMSELVES EITHER A DANGER TO THEMSELVES OR TO OTHERS. THIS BILL CREATES THAT OPTION CREATES THAT PATHWAY. IN FACT, WE USE THE SAME STATUTE. UH, PEOPLE UH, THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE FAMILIAR WITH, UH, 202 A PROCESS IN OUR STATUTES. THAT'S THE INVOLUNTARY COMMITMENT FOR BEHAVIOR OR, UH, MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. UH, WHEN YOU'RE A DANGER TO YOURSELF OR OTHERS WE USE 202 [00:10:03] D. UH, FOR THIS PARTICULAR, UH, DRAFT. AND WE BORROW THE SAME MECHANISMS, THE SAME DISTRICT COURT PROCESSES. UH, SO THE COURTS ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE PROCEDURES AND EVERYTHING IS VERY SIMILAR IN THAT REGARD, THOUGH, CURIOUSLY. AND I BELIEVE ABSURDLY THE STANDARD FOR TEMPORARILY REMOVING FIREARMS UNDER SUCH AN ORDER IS ACTUALLY HIGHER. THEN THE CRITERIA FOR INVOLUNTARY COMMITMENT. UH, THE BAR IS ACTUALLY TOUGHER TO HAVE GUNS REMOVED TEMPORARILY THAN TO HAVE YOUR WHOLE PERSON. INVOLUNTARILY COMMITTED TO WESTERN STATE OR EASTERN STATE OR CENTRAL STATE, OR WHEREVER UM BUT THE OBJECTIVE IS TO INTERVENE ON A TEMPORARY BASIS. UH I'LL TELL YOU THAT WHAT I TELL ADVOCATES AND OPPONENTS ALIKE OF THE BILL. UH, USUALLY THEY HAVEN'T READ IT. AH, PARTICULARLY THE OPPONENTS. THEY HAVEN'T BOTHERED TO READ IT. THEY'VE BEEN TOLD. THIS IS A RED FLAG LAW AND RED FLAG LAW MEANS SOMETHING BAD AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE OPPOSED TO IT ON SPEC. I ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO TAKE THE TIME TO READ THE LEGISLATION. AND TO FOLLOW THE PROCEDURAL STEPS AND ASK QUESTIONS TO SHOW UH OR TO UNDERSTAND THE FULL PROCESS ONE WAY. THAT THIS BILL IS DIFFERENT FROM I BELIEVE I CAN'T SAY THAT I'VE LOOKED AT EVERY SINGLE STATUTE AND EVERY OTHER STATE, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE ANY OTHER STATE HAS SOMETHING LIKE THIS ONE WAY THAT THIS PARTICULAR DRAFT IS DIFFERENT FROM OTHER STATES IS THAT THERE IS A PRESUMPTION THAT GUNS SHOULD BE RETURNED OR KEPT BY THE FIREARM OWNER AT EVERY TIME AT EVERY STAGE OF REVIEW, EVEN THE INITIAL REVIEW SO THERE'S A HIGHER BURDEN NOT JUST TO HAVE THE GUNS REMOVED, BUT THE COURT ACTUALLY HAS TO OVERCOME THE PRESUMPTION AND REBUT THE PRES. THE PROSECUTOR IN THIS CASE, THE BASED ON THE LAW ENFORCEMENT. HAS TO REBUT THE PRESUMPTION THAT THE GUN SHOULD STAY PUT. AND THAT'S GOTTA BE DONE EACH AND EVERY TIME THE PETITION IS SOUGHT OR REVIEWED OR SUBSEQUENTLY REVIEWED. UM WHITNEY CAN TELL YOU MORE ABOUT STATISTICS INVOLVING SUICIDE, UH, WHICH IS I THINK THE MOST IMPACTFUL DIFFERENCE THAT THIS BILL CAN MAKE APART FROM ANY OTHER, UH, MASS SHOOTING EVENTS THAT WE'VE SEEN IN LOUISVILLE AND AROUND THE COUNTRY. UM BUT UNTIL WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT MEANINGFULLY STEPS IN IN AND CREATES SOME SPACE FOR US TO PUT A PAUSE ON THINGS AND TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S OK. WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO SEE PEOPLE WHO IN MOST OF THESE CASES AROUND THE COUNTRY ARE STRUGGLING WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES OR CRISES THAT WENT UNTENDED. UM I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. ONE OF THE REGULAR REFRAINS FROM THE PEOPLE WHO OPPOSE BILLS LIKE THIS OR THAT, UH ARE ARE THE CLAIMS THAT THIS OPENS US UP TO FRAUDULENT CLAIMS THAT THAT PEOPLE WOULD SEEK THIS ORDER FOR SPITE OR FOR SPORT OR FOR SOME OTHER REASON. UH DESPITE THE FACT WE ALREADY HAVE ORDERS LIKE THIS IN OUR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND INTERPERSONAL DOMESTIC INTERPERSONAL VIOLENCE ORDER PROTECTIVE, UH, ORDER, UH, PROCEDURES WE ALREADY HAVE A MECHANISM TO GET. UH, EX PARTE ORDERS, UH, ENTERED AND WE DON'T SEE MASS ABUSE IN THOSE, UM AND EVEN THOUGH IT'S UH AGAINST THE LAW TO COMMIT FRAUD AND TO LIE WHEN SEEKING ONE OF THESE, THE DRAFT EXPLICITLY PROHIBITS THAT AND MAKES IT PUNISHABLE. UH, FOR ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO SEEK ONE OF THESE ORDERS BASED ON FRAUD OR FALSE INFORMATION. SO WE'VE TRIED TO COVER EVERY BASE THAT WE'VE GOT AND CREATE AGAIN, JUST AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THERE TO BE A RESPONSIBLE INTERVENTION. DOES IT MEAN THAT SOMEONE WHO IS AN OTHERWISE LAW ABIDING CITIZEN? UH MIKE TEMPORARILY LOSE THEIR FIREARMS. IT DOES. IT DOES MEAN THAT BUT IT'S ONLY TEMPORARY. AND IT HAS TO BE DONE IN A WAY THAT'S CONSTITUTIONALLY SOUND, AND THIS IS THE ONLY WAY THAT WE CAN THINK OF TO DO THAT. AND I'LL REMIND YOU, LASTLY, THAT NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT IS ABSOLUTE . I'M A REPUBLICAN. I'M A SECOND AMENDMENT SUPPORTER. I'M A GUN OWNER. A MULTIPLE, UH OF GUNS OWNER. UH, I'VE GOT HANDGUNS, LONG GUNS. THE WORKS. AND I STILL BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A RESPONSIBLE APPROACH. THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS NOT LIMITLESS. THE FIRST AMENDMENT IS NOT LIMITLESS. THE FOURTH AMENDMENT IS NOT LIMITLESS. WE HAVE RESTRICTIONS ON THE SECOND AMENDMENT TODAY THAT DON'T SHOW UP IN THE CONSTITUTIONAL TEXT ITSELF. IF YOU READ THE SECOND AMENDMENT, THERE'S NOTHING IN THERE, BUT CONVICTIONS. NOTHING IN THERE ABOUT FELONIES. YET KENTUCKY AND ALL THE OTHER STATES IN IN THE UNITED STATES ALREADY PROHIBIT THE POSSESSION OR PURCHASE OF FIREARM BACK CONVICTED FELON. WE HAVE ALL AGREED. OVER TIME OVER DECADES AND DECADES THAT THAT'S A THAT'S AN EXCEPTION OR RESTRICTION. THAT'S NOT IN THE TEXT OF THE CONSTITUTION, BUT THAT WE'RE OK WITH MORE OR LESS. HM? UM THIS IS LIKE THAT. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S UH, OPEN TO VAST KINDS OF ABUSE OR ABUSE AT ALL. AND IT DOES RELY ON THE SYSTEM PLAYERS ARE OUR PROSECUTORS ARE LAW ENFORCEMENT AND OUR JUDGES TO GET IT RIGHT. BUT THEY GET IT RIGHT MOST DAYS AND IN MOST JURISDICTIONS MOST [00:15:04] OF THE TIME. THAT'S WHY OUR SYSTEM WORKS BETTER THAN ANYBODY. ANYBODY ELSE'S IN THE WORLD. THAT'S REALLY IT. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. UNLESS YOU TELL ME THAT I WAS ON MUTE THAT WHOLE TIME AND NOBODY IF YOU GIVE ME A SECOND, UH I'M GONNA, UH, GO AHEAD AND, UH ALLOW, UH, DOCTOR RICK BLACKWELL TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE THE FLOOR AND SPEAK. I THINK HE MAY HAVE HAD A QUESTION. YEAH. SENATOR. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. UM, THANK YOU FOR THIS, UH, FOR YOUR THOUGHTFUL LEGISLATION IN YOUR, UH, IN YOUR EXPLANATION. UM TWO QUESTIONS FOR YOU. ONE IS, UH, JUST IN TERMS OF, UH, IN IN, MAYBE I DON'T KNOW HOW ACCURATE BILL WATCH IS THAT YOU LOOK UP WHERE IT WAS. AT THIS POINT. IT LOOKS LIKE UH, TAKE IT NOT BEEN HURTING TO ME. IT'S IN A COMMITTEE, BUT IT HASN'T BEEN HEARD IN COMMITTEE. IT HAS NOT. IT IS SITTING IN THE VETERANS MILITARY AFFAIRS AND PUBLIC PROTECTION COMMITTEE, WHICH I DO . SIT ON. BUT I DO NOT CHAIR UH AND I CERTAINLY WANTED IT TO COME TO MY COMMITTEE, THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE IN THE SENATE SINCE THE I DIDN'T HAVE TO CONVINCE THE CHAIRMAN TO HEAR IT IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE, BUT, UM I STILL DIDN'T HAVE THE VOTES , EVEN ON MY OWN COMMITTEE. UH AND I DON'T YET HAVE THE VOTES ON V MAP AS WE CALL IT, UM SO YEAH, AT THIS STAGE, EVEN IF WE HEARD IT. IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE IT OUT IN TIME, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE VOTES IN THE FULL SENATE YET, UH, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF VOTES MORE THAN PEOPLE WOULD THINK BIPARTISAN SUPPORT FOR THE BILL. UM A LOT OF PEOPLE BEING QUIET, CAUSE THEY'RE AFRAID OF RETRIBUTION FROM THE LEFT OR THE RIGHT. UH, IN THIS CASE, LARGELY THE RIGHT BUT, UM THAT'S WHERE IT'S AT. SITTING IN COMMITTEE, HAVING NOT BEEN HEARD YET. AND THEN, UH AND FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE DOES PASSING A RESOLUTION LIKE THIS. WHAT WILL IT HAVE ANY EFFECT? ANY HELP FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD? YEAH I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL, PARTICULARLY FOR THE LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION. THAT'S IN AND AROUND JEFFERSON COUNTY, BUT I THINK AND I, I CAN'T STRESS THIS ENOUGH. THE RESOLUTION WOULD NEED TO BE BIPARTISAN. SIMILAR TO ANY OTHER SUBJECT MATTER THAT IS AS HOT TOPIC HOT BUTTON ISSUE IS AS GUNS IS IN THIS CASE TO THE RIGHT. THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES TO THE LEFT. IF IT'S IF IT'S A BIPARTISAN RESOLUTION. I THINK THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES. IF IT'S A PARTISAN RESOLUTION, I THINK THAT IS COUNTERPRODUCTIVE. TO BE VERY CANDID WITH YOU OK? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I'M GOING FORWARD. UM, MY VICE CHAIR, DAN SIMS. THANK YOU, CHAIR. UM WELCOME, SENATOR WESTERFIELD BEEN WHILE GOOD TO SEE YOU HAVE A QUESTION? UM WHAT Q QUALIFICATIONS ARE THE OFFICERS GONNA HAVE TO DETERMINE WHETHER THESE PEOPLE MEET THE CRITERIA WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. THERE IS NO SPECIAL QUALIFICATION BUT ALSO KEEP IN MIND. THEY'RE NOT ASKED WITH MAKING SOME SORT OF PROFESSIONAL DIAGNOSIS OR EXAM OR ASSESSMENT OF ANY KIND. LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THIS CASE ARE ASKED TO DO WHAT LAW ENFORCEMENT DO EVERY DAY, ALL THE TIME, USE THEIR PROFESSIONAL JUDGMENT AND EXPERIENCE AND EXPERTISE TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT TO CHARGE THIS PERSON TO CONNECT TO CONNECT THIS PERSON WITH THE LOCAL COMMUNITY HEALTH COMMUNITY MENTAL HEALTH CENTER. WHETHER SEVEN COUNTIES NEEDS TO BE CALLED OR A CLINICIAN FROM WHEREVER IT NEEDS TO BE CALLED, OR IF THE DRUG COURT STAFF OR WHAT HAVE YOU THAT'S ALL THEY'RE ASKED TO DO. SO THEY DO ACT AS A FILTER ON THE FRONT END OF THIS, AND IT GOES BACK TO ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT I MENTIONED BEFORE, UH IN OTHER STATES ALLOW ANYBODY TO FILE A PETITION. UM I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE SUCCESSFUL POLICY WISE HERE. I DON'T THINK I COULD GET THE VOTES FOR THAT. AND EVEN I'M NOT SURE I'M I'M OK WITH THAT. UM THERE NEEDED TO BE SOME FILTER. AND JUST LIKE A PROTECTIVE ORDER, UH OR OR UM, IT'S NOT A GREAT EXAMPLE. MAYBE. THEY'RE THEY'RE OTHER EXAMPLES THAT I'M I'M STARTING TO THINK OF IN COURT PROCEEDINGS WHERE YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE UH, THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME PROOF SOME EVIDENCE OR SOME FILTER ON THE RELIEF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET IN THIS CASE. THE ESTRANGED SPOUSE CAN'T JUST ASK FOR A PETITION. UH, AND AN EX PARTE HEARING FROM A COURT. UH, WITHOUT JUSTIFICATION, UM, OR WITHOUT MAKING UP. I MEAN, WHOEVER THAT IS, HE OR SHE WOULD HAVE TO CONVINCE THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER THAT IT'S A WORTHWHILE PETITION TO PURSUE AND THEN THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER HAS TO PREPARE THE PETITION AND CONVINCE A JUDGE THAT IT'S WORTHWHILE TO ENTER THE ORDER. UM AGAIN. THEY'RE NOT [00:20:04] ASKED WITH AND I WOULDN'T GIVE THEM THE DUTY OF MAKING SOME SORT OF MENTAL HEALTH EVALUATION . THEY'RE NOT EQUIPPED TO DO THAT, AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO DO THAT. THANK YOU, SENATOR. OK I'M GONNA PASS THE, UM, FLOOR TO MISS WHITNEY AUSTIN . UM BECAUSE I BELIEVE, UH SO YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND SPEAK TO THIS BECAUSE DECOY. YOU DO WANT THIS TO BE TABLE CORRECT. YES, MA'AM. OK SO WE CAN HAVE MORE CONVERSATIONS, SO I'M NOT GONNA, UM I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND LET YOU SPEAK. AND THEN DEFINITELY, UH WE'LL GO AHEAD AND JUST TABLE THIS AND COME BACK TO IT. YOU CAN YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, MISS AUSTIN. OK THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE DATA FOR JUST A MINUTE. SO YOU UNDERSTAND HOW BIG THIS PROBLEM IS IN OUR STATE? UM BUT BEFORE I DO THAT, I WANNA REMIND YOU THE DATA IS TIED TO HUMANS, AND I'M JUST ONE HUMAN THAT HAS BEEN IMPACTED BY THIS IF YOU DON'T KNOW MY STORY ON SEPTEMBER 6TH 2018 I WAS GOING TO WORK AT 5TH 3RD BANK CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS AND CINCINNATI, OHIO. JUST LIKE ANY OTHER DAY, BUT INSTEAD WALKED INTO A MASS SHOOTING. THAT WAS ALL TOO FAMILIAR ALMOST FIVE YEARS BEFORE IT HAPPENED AGAIN. HERE IN OUR CITY AT OLD NATIONAL BANK. THERE WERE THREE PEOPLE THAT WERE KILLED AND I WAS ONE OF TWO WOUNDED SURVIVORS AND BY THE GRACE OF GOD, I'M HERE BECAUSE I WAS SHOT 12 TIMES AND SO I'M ABSOLUTELY CONVICTED ABOUT PREVENTING MASS VIOLENCE FROM IMPACTING OTHERS. BUT I AM ALSO CONVICTED ABOUT THE MANY OTHER FORMS OF GUN VIOLENCE IN OUR STATE, AND THIS IS ONE TOOL THAT CAN MAKE A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE. SO TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF HOW BIG THIS PROBLEM IS IN THE STATE OF KENTUCKY. 2021 IS THE MOST RECENT YEAR IN WHICH WE CAN PULL DATA FROM THE CDC. THERE WERE 947 FIREARM RELATED DEATHS IN THE STATE. 534 OF THEM . THAT'S 56% WERE SUICIDE. AND 373 39% OR HOMICIDE. PEOPLE ARE SURPRISED TO HEAR THAT IN KENTUCKY'S RURAL AREAS, 68% OF FIREARM DEATHS WERE FROM SUICIDE IN THAT YEAR, WHICH IS A 26% INCREASE IN FIREARM DEATHS FROM SUICIDE SINCE 2001 SO WHILE HOMICIDE IS WHAT WE TALK QUITE A BIT ABOUT IN THE CITY OF LOUISVILLE AND FOR GOOD REASON. IN OUR RURAL AREAS. WE'RE SEEING THAT SUICIDE IS HAPPENING AT A RATE THAT IS ALMOST 1.4 TIMES HIGHER THAN WHAT WE SEE IN OUR URBAN AREAS ACROSS THE STATE. AND THEN THERE ARE POPULATIONS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE MORE IMPACTED BY SUICIDE THAN OTHERS. AND 79% OF OUR VETERANS IN THIS STATE. 79% OF OUR VETERAN SUICIDES IN THE STATE IN 2020, OR BY FIREARM COMPARED TO ABOUT 65% FOR THE GENERAL POPULATION AND TO OTHER POPULATIONS THAT ARE HEAVILY IMPACTED INCLUDE FARMERS AND MINERS. AND THEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT POPULATIONS IN OUR MORE URBAN AREAS. THERE ARE OTHER POCKETS, LGBT Q MEMBERS, ET CETERA. ALSO ONE OTHER WAY TO THINK ABOUT IT IN 2021 1 KENTUCKIAN DIED BY SUICIDE, FIREARM SUICIDE EVERY 16 HOURS. AND THEN IN 2023. WE USED THE GUN VIOLENCE ARCHIVE TO COUNT HOW MANY INCIDENTS OF MASS VIOLENCE WHICH IS FAR MORE PEOPLE INJURED OR KILLED IN A PUBLIC PLACE, AND IN 2023, THERE WERE EIGHT INCIDENTS ACROSS THE STATE ONE IN LEXINGTON, SIX IN LOUISVILLE AND ONE IN PADUCAH. WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE TIES BETWEEN SUICIDE AND MASS VIOLENCE. MOST MASS SHOOTERS ARE STRUGGLING WITH SUICIDAL THOUGHTS. SO THERE'S A VERY CLEAR CONNECTION, AND THIS ONE SOLUTION CAN GET AT BOTH OF THEM. AND IN CLOSING, WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH ALL OF YOU TO HELP ANSWER MORE QUESTIONS, AND I MAKING MYSELF AVAILABLE. A LOT OF TIME HAS BEEN SPENT IN FRANKFURT, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO VISIT WITH ANY OF YOU ALL IN MY HOME CITY IN LOUISVILLE TO HELP ANSWER MORE QUESTIONS AND TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE MORE OF AN EXPERT ON WHY THIS POLICY SOLUTION CAN SAVE LIVES, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR GIVING ME TIME. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. I'M BIG ON SOLUTIONS. SO UM, IF, UH, IF I CAN MAKE A MOTION TO GO AHEAD AND TABLE THIS, AND THEN WE CAN, UM, COME BACK TO THIS. RECORD. UM MADAM. CHEER ME. I OFFER SOMETHING BRIEFLY. UH, NO. UH, WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND GET ON. I'M SORRY. YOU CAN I CAN HAVE A, UH UM ANOTHER CONVERSATION WITH YOU, OR WE CAN BRING YOU BACK. SO UM, I MADE A MOTION TO TABLE IT. MY VICE [00:25:07] CHAIR. UH, SECONDED, UM AND HER NOW I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND TABLE THIS YOU KNOW? THANK YOU. DID WE DO A VOICE VOTE. WAS THERE A MOTION TO TABLE DID WE TABLE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE TABLE? SAY AYE. I OK? THANK YOU. COUNCIL, MAYOR REED. CLARK, CAN YOU READ ITEM? UH, ONE IN THE RECORD, [1. ID 24-0172     YOUTH TRANSITIONAL SERVICES – Toni Rice, Youth Transitional Services] PLEASE. YOU TRANSITIONAL SERVICES YTS UPDATES TONY RICE YOUTH TRANSITIONAL SERVICES. B AND PA. THANK YOU. COULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? AND YOU CAN LOOK IN. YES MADAM CHAIR TONY RICE, DIRECTOR FOR YOUTH TRANSITIONAL SERVICES. I JUST WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHO WE ARE. OUR MISSION IS TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF DETAINED JUVENILES AND THE STAFF WHO TRANSPORT THEM PROTECT THE PUBLIC SAFETY THROUGH APPROPRIATE SECURITY AND SUPERVISION PRACTICES WHILE REDUCING THE LIABILITY EXPOSURE OF THOSE WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR TRANSPORTING YOUTH. THE MAJOR SERVICES THAT WE INCLUDE CURRENTLY ARE TRANSPORTATION UNIT, WHICH TRANSPORTS YOUTH IN AND OUT OF COUNTY TO COURT DAILY, THE COURT PROCESS UNIT. WE HAVE A SCREENING CENTER. WE PROVIDE 24 7 MEDICAL SERVICES FOR WITHIN OUR ORGANIZATION. WE CONDUCT ON-SITE RELEASES WITHIN THE CENSUS TRACK FOR PARENTS TO COME TO OUR AGENCY. WE ALSO PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION HOME TO FAMILIES THAT DO NOT HAVE TRANSPORTATION. WE DID HAVE SOMEONE SEES A FAKE TUTORING CLASSES GOING ON BEING CONDUCTED FROM MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY. WE ALSO PROVIDE OCEAN REFERRAL SYSTEM TO PROVIDE WRAPAROUND SERVICES, WHICH WAS SUGGESTED LAST YEAR DURING, UM, BUDGET SESSION, AND WE'RE ALSO PROVIDING REAL TIME CRIME CENTER LIVE DATA. OUR ORGANIZATIONAL CHART CONSISTS OF MYSELF, THE DIRECTOR THE TRANSPORTATION UNIT , THE COURT PROCESS UNIT AND THE YOUTH SCREENING CENTER, WHICH I'LL GO INTO MORE DETAIL ABOUT. THE BACKGROUND OF OUR DEPARTMENT IS THAT YOUTH TRANSITIONAL SERVICES WAS FOUNDED ON JANUARY 1 2020 AFTER THE SUDDEN CLOSURE OF YOUTH DETENTION SERVICES IN DECEMBER OF 2019 YOUTH TRANSITIONAL SERVICES FULFILLS LOUIS METRO GOVERNMENT'S OBLIGATION UNDER KRS 605.080 THAT STATES ANY CHILD ORDERED TO BE TRANSPORTED BY A COMMITTING OR SENTENCING COURT SHALL BE TRANSPORTED BY THE SHERIFF OR JAILER OF THE COUNTY. ANY OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY MAY ENTER INTO AGREEMENTS WITH THE COURT SHERIFF OR JJ, OR TO TRANSPORT JUVENILES. IN ADDITION, YOUTH TRANSITIONAL SERVICES RECEIVED A $3 MILLION GRANT IN NOVEMBER OF 2021 TO CREATE A PALLET PROGRAM AIMED AT RESOLVING THE GROWING ISSUE OF EXTENDED WAIT TIMES FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES, WHICH WERE EXPERIENCED IN AFTER CONTACT WITH YOUTH. THIS GRANT ALLOWED YT. IS TO OPEN A YOUTH SCREENING CENTER ON MAY THE 29TH 2022, THE YOUTH SCREENING CENTER , PROVIDES A SAFE PLACE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES TO PERFORM A SOFT HAND OFF TO OTHER SWORN OFFICERS. OUR COURT PROCESS OFFICERS SINCE THE OPENING OF THIS PROGRAM, LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES HAVE EXPERIENCED A DRASTIC REDUCTION IN THE AMOUNT OF TIME THEY ARE REMOVED FROM PATROL FROM 2020 TO 2023 YOUTH TRANSITIONAL SERVICES HAS FACILITATED OVER 5614 TRANSPORTS. JUST TO GO OVER SOME OF THE DATA. YOUTH TRANSITIONAL TRANSPORT TOTALS FOR COURT IS OVER 4118 OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS FACILITY TRANSFERS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF JUVENILE JUSTICE FROM FACILITY TO FACILITY IS 594 . WE'VE CONDUCTED 29 MEDICAL APPOINTMENTS. 42 TRANSFERS TO ADULT CORRECTIONS. 74 SPECIAL TRANSPORTS FOR THE JEFFERSON COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE CIRCUIT COURT. YOU SCREENING CENTER HAS DETAINED OVER 727 YOUTH, AND WE'VE RELEASED AND TRANSPORTED HOME OVER 19. WE ALSO PROVIDE SERVICES FOR FUNERAL FURLOUGHS, WHICH HAS BEEN OVER FOUR INTERSTATE COMPACT TO STATES THAT INCLUDE INDIANA, TENNESSEE AND GEORGIA. AND THAT WAS SEVEN. I JUST WANNA GO OVER A LITTLE DATA JUST TO SHOW HOW IMPORTANT YOU TRANSITIONAL SERVICES IS IN 2020. WHEN WE HAD COVID WE ONLY SEEN ABOUT 100 AND 92 TRANSPORTS TO COURT. I WANNA LOOK AT SOME [00:30:01] OF THE DATA FROM 2021 THROUGH 23 TO SEE HOW MUCH OF A RISE THOSE NUMBERS HAD WENT TO IN 2021. WE TRANSPORTED 446 YOUTH. THAT WAS WHEN THE CITY WAS OPENING BACK UP. UPON OPENING THE SCREENING CENTER. WE WERE ABLE TO TRANSPORT 1355 YOUTH. AND LASTLY , IN 2023, WE TRANSPORTED OVER 1848 YOUTH TO COURT. WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS A UPRISE BECAUSE LNPD AND OTHER ARRESTING AGENCIES ACTUALLY HAVE A PLACE TO DROP THOSE YOUTH OFF. FACILITIES TRANSFERS IN THE BEGINNING, WE WERE TRANSPARENT, TRANSPORTING AND ASSISTANT D JJ WITH, UM, FACILITY TRANSFERS, WHETHER TRANSFERS WHETHER THAT BE FROM J RJ DC LOCATED OFF LONDON LANE TO ADA COUNTY, BOYD IN 2020. IT WAS JUST 25. WE PICKED UP 27. WHICH WAS A TOTAL OF TWO FOR THAT YEAR IN 2021. WE DROPPED OFF 85. WE PICKED UP 100 AND 44 FOR THEM, WHICH WAS A TOTAL OF 229. IN 22. WE DROPPED OFF 174 YOUTH FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF JUVENILE JUSTICE AND PICKED UP OVER 100 AND 35, WHICH WAS 309 AND OVER THE COURSE OF 2023. WE'VE WORKED AND BUILT A PARTNERSHIP WITH SHE WITH EACH OTHER TO WHERE NOW THEY ARE ABLE TO DO THEIR OWN TRANSPORTING TO EACH FACILITY. SO WHAT YOU WILL SEE IS A UPRISE IN THE NUMBERS THAT WE'VE HAD TO GO OUT TO THESE FACILITIES AND PICK THEM UP. WE ONLY HAD ZERO DROP OFFS AND FOUR PICKUPS FOR THEM FOR 2023. THESE ARE I THINK ABOUT THE 15 COUNTIES THAT WE SERVICED FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF JUVENILE JUSTICE. IN KENTUCKY. SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL TRANSPORTS THAT I DISCUSSED WOULD BE GOING TO MEDICAL, WHICH YOU'LL SEE OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS. WE'VE TRANSPORTED 29 YOUTH. WE'VE TRANSFERRED 42 YOUTH TO THE APARTMENT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF JUVENILE. I MEAN DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS AND THEN SPECIAL TRANSPORTS AGAIN FOR THE JEFFERSON COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE WOULD BE 74 YOU SINCE 2020. THE COURT PROCESS UNIT HAS SERVED OVER 7424 LEGAL PROCESSES FOR FAMILIES AND JUVENILE COURTS. I ALSO WANT TO TALK A BIT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHY WE HAVE THAT COURT PROCESS UNIT INHERENCE TO LOUISVILLE METRO ORDINANCE TITLE THREE CHAPTER 36. WE ARE ORDERED TO ISSUE SUMMONS, SUBPOENAS OPS AND DEPENDENCY PACKETS. THIS AGAIN WILL JUST BE THE SAME DATA THAT WE DISCUSSED THE FUNERALS AND THE INTERSTATE COMPACTS IN AND OUT OF COUNTY AND DIFFERENT STATES. THE YOUTH SCREENING CENTER. SINCE OPENING HAS SCREENED OVER 978 YOUTH AND PROCESSED 978 YOUTH WERE PROCESSED 727 WERE DETAINED UPON THOSE 232 WERE RELEASED ON SITE IN 19 WERE RELEASED AND TRANSPORTED TO THE COURT DESIGNATED RELEASE LOCATION. WE DID HAVE 22 DEFERMENTS, WHICH MEANS THEY WILL GO OUT TO THE HOSPITAL. WE ALSO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES FOR LNPD AND OTHER ARRESTING AGENCIES, SO THEY'RE NOT HAVING TO SPEND TWO OR THREE HOURS AT THE HOSPITAL WITH THOSE YOU YOU WILL SEE THE NUMBERS, UM, HAVE WENT UP. WE DETAINED 255 AND 2022 AND 2023. WE DETAINED 472 YOUTH. WE WERE ABLE TO RELEASE 69 ON SITE IN 2022 UPON OPENING AND YOU WILL SEE THE UPRISE IN THOSE RELEASES ON SITE BECAUSE THERE WAS NOT A FACILITY IN THE STATE. THAT UH, WOULD PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES FAMILIES WERE HAVING TO GO OUT TO AD COUNTY BOY COUNTY TO PITT THEIR YOUTH UP. NOW WE PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES. WE'LL GO OUT TO THOSE COUNTIES PICK THOSE YOUTH UP AND PROVIDE THOSE, UM, RELEASES ON SITE SO THAT FAMILIES CAN COME AND PICK UP THEIR YOUTH WITHIN A CENSUS TRACT. HIGHLIGHTS SO FAR FROM 2024 DEDICATED TO LOCAL METRO GOVERNMENT'S MISSION FOR TRANSPARENCY. WE'VE IMPLEMENTED BODY WORN CAMERAS ON FEBRUARY THE 1ST 2024. WE'VE ALSO FUNDED THE AGENCY FOR WEAPONS FOR OUR SWORN PEACE OFFICERS FOR THE COURT PROCESS UNIT. WE'VE ALSO PURCHASED RADIOS CAPABLE OF CONNECTING TO WI FI AND TRANSMITTING ACROSS COUNTY LINES TO ENSURE STAFF SAFETY AS WELL AS ENSURING ALL STAFF ARE ENROLLED IN LENS ALERTS. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR VALUABLE ATTENTION. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? UH, YES. UM, I GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. UM HOW LONG HAVE YOU [00:35:07] BEEN IN THIS ROLE? LAST YEAR? I DIDN'T SEE YOU AT BUDGET TIME DOING THE PRESENTATION, BUT I BELIEVE THAT SHE WAS HER. SO HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN IN THIS WORLD? I'VE BEEN WITH YOU DETENTION SERVICES IN THE SAME FACILITY FOR OVER 18 YEARS. I'VE TAKEN OVER AS THE DIRECTOR FOR THE PAST YEAR. OK SO, UM, LAST YEAR YOU GUYS DIDN'T HAVE DID YOU HAVE BODY CAMS? NO, MA'AM. I JUST IMPLEMENTED THAT THIS YEAR? YES WE DID. FEBRUARY 1ST OF 2024 . OK DE DEFINITELY. THAT'S A, UM THAT'S A GOOD THING TO HAVE WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH THE, UH, YOUTH NOWADAYS. UM LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING. SO AS FAR AS, UH WHERE YOU GUYS ARE LOCATED. CAN YOU STATE THE ADDRESS WHERE YOU'RE LOCATED AT 720 WEST JEFFERSON STREET. OK AND HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN THERE? WE'VE BEEN IN THAT FACILITY SINCE 1983 OK, AND THE STATE IS SUPPOSED TO TAKE THAT FACILITY OVER. SOME CORRECT. YES MA'AM, DO YOU DO YOU HAVE A DEADLINE ON THAT DATE? OR DO YOU HAVE A LOCATION ON WHERE YOU'RE GONNA BE MOVING TO OR THINGS HAVE YOU GUYS LOOKED INTO INTO THAT? WE'RE CURRENTLY IN THE PRELIMINARY STAGES OF THAT. WE KNOW THAT THE DEED WILL BE TRANSFERRED TO THE STATE, PROBABLY AT THE END OF THIS MONTH, SO WE'RE MOVING PRETTY FAST. WE'RE BEING PROACTIVE INSTEAD OF REACTIVE TRYING TO FIND LOCATIONS RIGHT NOW, UM, METRO FACILITIES. MAINTENANCE IS CURRENTLY LOOKING AT LOCATIONS WHERE ACTUALLY GOING TO LOOK AT A FACILITY ON MELWOOD, UM NEXT WEEK AS EARLY AS NEXT WEEK. OK, AND, UM HOW MANY, UM HOW MANY OFFICERS GO OUT WHEN YOU TRANSPORT KIDS WE SEND TO FOR TRANSPARENCY AND FOR SAFETY AT ALL TIMES, AND THEY DO HAVE BODY CAMS ON? YES MA'AM. OK AND, UH UH, HOW MANY HOURS DO THEY DRIVE? WE GET ON THE ROAD AT APPROXIMATELY 2 A.M. IN THE MORNING. UH SOME OF OUR ROUTES ARE ABOUT FOUR HOURS. SO WE HAVE TO ENSURE THAT YOUTH ARE IN COURT BY 8 39 9 AM. UM THE JUDGES DO NOT ALLOW US TO BE LATE FOR COURT. SO WE GET ON THE ROAD TO CAMPBELL COUNTY AT ABOUT 30. WE GET ON THE ROAD FOR DEREK COUNTY ABOUT 4 A.M. AND THEN WE LEAVE OUT ABOUT 7 A.M. TO GET TO J RJ DC, WHICH IS LOCATED IN LINDEN LANE. SO IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU'RE FACING ANY BARRIERS THAT WE CAN HELP YOU REMOVE? UM THAT IS IN THE WAY OR THAT IT IS A HINDER WHEN YOU DO THAT, BECAUSE THAT CAN BE QUITE DANGEROUS, SOMETIMES QUITE DANGEROUS. BUT I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE EQUIPPED WITH WHAT YOU'VE, UH, PROVIDED US LAST YEAR WITH GIVEN US THE, UH, FUNDING FOR WEAPONS AND THE FUNDING FOR BODY CAMERAS. THAT WAS CITY COUNCIL THAT GAVE US THAT FUNDING. OK, NOW I DO KNOW THAT, UH, YOUR BUDGET LOOKING UP YOUR BUDGET, YOUR BUDGET WAS ONE OF THE SMALLEST BUDGETS THAT WE HAD, UM , DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT BUDGET STILL BEING VERY SMALL THIS YEAR , OR, UM, DOES IT DEPEND ON THE LOCATION OR A LITTLE BIT. A LOT OF THOSE ARE FACTORS, MADAM CHAIR, WE WILL BE ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL 500,000 TO OFFSET THE A RP FUNDING BECAUSE IT WILL END FOR THIS YEAR AND THAT WILL ASSIST US WITH KEEPING THE SCREENING CENTER OPEN. UM FOR FY 25 OUTSIDE OF THAT WE'RE WAITING ON THE MAYOR'S BUDGET ADDRESS TO SEE WHAT OUR BUDGET WILL BE FOR FY 25. OK, AND, UM WHAT IS THE FUTURE OF THE OPERATION ONCE THE STATE TAKES OVER, THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT AND WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH MAYOR GREENBERG ON, UH, UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE OPERATIONS WILL BE. WE ARE LEARNING THAT THE STATE IS STATING IT WOULD POSSIBLY BE 36 MONTHS FOR RENOVATION, SO WE KNOW THAT WE'LL BE OPEN FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS. BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, WE DON'T KNOW. UH WHAT OUR FUTURE HOLDS THAT'S A HUGE CONCERN. UM SO WHAT WOULD THAT DO FOR YOUR CURRENT EMPLOYEES? AND HOW MANY EMPLOYEES DO YOU HAVE, UM, SLATED FOR 31? I CURRENTLY HAVE 28 ON STAFF. SO I'M FIGHTING EVERY DAY TO ENSURE THAT ME AND MY STAFF HAVE A JOB. THAT'S WHY I'M UH, COMING BEFORE A SPECIAL COUNSEL. I ABSOLUTELY APPRECIATE YOU ALL FOR HAVING US TODAY. UM WHAT THAT MEANS IS EITHER WE WOULD ASSUME OTHER ROLES WITHIN METRO GOVERNMENT OR POSSIBLY, UH, APPLY FOR THE STATE. SO DO YOU THINK THAT THE, UM I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK IF IT'S FAIR FOR ME TO ASK, BUT I'M GONNA ASK IT. UM DO YOU THINK THAT, UH THE STATE WILL BE EQUIPPED TO COME IN AND I'M ASKING FOR FULL TRANSPARENCY TO, UH, HANDLE THE YOUTH, UM AND EXPERIENCED SUCH AS YOURSELF AND YOUR STAFF. OR DO YOU THINK THAT WE'LL BE, UM UM WILL BE IN A WORLD OF TROUBLE. I'M JUST ASKING. I THINK WITH THE NEW INTERIM COMMISSIONER, HE HAS OVER 33 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE. I KNOW THAT HE HAS A MISSION TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF THE [00:40:07] JEFFERSON COUNTY JUVENILES, UM ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO ON THE JEFFERSON COUNTY SIDE TO ASSIST THEM. WE'LL BE AVAILABLE TO DO THAT. I REALLY CAN'T SPEAK ON WHAT THEY'RE DOING ON THEIR SIDE. BUT WE ARE OFFERING OUR SERVICES AND, UM, TRYING TO COLLABORATE WITH THEM CURRENTLY AND ASKING IF WE COULD ADDITIONALLY HAVE A SPACE OF THE COMMUNITY SIDE OF THAT FACILITY. OK SO THEY HAVEN'T RESPONDED TO THAT, OR THEY HAVEN'T GAVE YOU AN ANSWER, OR ARE THEY NOT? UM RESPONDING TO THAT. I JUST THINK EVERYTHING'S IN THE POLI PRELIMINARY STAGES AND WE'RE NOT GETTING A LOT OF RESPONSES RIGHT NOW. CURRENTLY, OK? UM SHOULD MAKE A COUNCIL MEMBER UH, PERISH RIGHT YEAR BEFORE THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION, AND I KNOW THAT THE CLOSING OF JCYC WAS A BIG, UM AS A BIG ISSUE, AND I THINK ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS. AND I KNOW THAT THE INCIDENTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED WERE OUR YOUNG PEOPLE HAVE, UH, BEEN ON ALIVE AT FACILITIES DIDN'T COME THROUGH YOUR WORK WITH THE TRANSPORTATION, BUT I'M WONDERING WITH THE SCREENING PROCESS. DO YOU FEEL AS IF IT IS BETTER NOW? UM THAT YOU YOU HAVE A BETTER CONTROL OVER THAT SCREENING PROCESS. THAT'S PREVENTING, UM FOLKS FROM UNNECESSARILY BEING INCARCERATED ACROSS THE STATE, AND, YOU KNOW CAN YOU JUST SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT SCREENING PROCESS? ABSOLUTELY COUNCILWOMAN SHAMEKA PARRISH WRIGHT. UM I FEEL THAT IT HAS HAD A TREMENDOUS UM AFFECT OVER JEFFERSON COUNTY AND OUR SAFETY SECTOR. UM, IN 2020 WHEN WE'VE SEEN COVID, UH ARRESTING AGENCIES JUST DIDN'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO TAKE THE YOUTH. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE WE'VE SCREENED OVER 1000 YOUTH AT THAT TIME, AND THEN WE'RE ALSO ABLE TO RELEASE A LOT OF THOSE YOUTH. UM THEN YOU JUST HAD OFFICERS SITTING IN THE BACK OF THE CARS WITH THE YOUTH FOR 4 TO 6 HOURS AT OUR LOCATION. WE HAVE A CD W. THAT'S ON SITE. UM THEY'RE ABLE TO SCREEN THAT YOUTH CONTACT THE JUDGE, THE JUDGE IS ABLE TO GET A BETTER PICTURE OF WHAT'S GOING ON. THE YOUTH ARE MUCH MORE CALMER BECAUSE THEY'RE IN OUR CARE. WE PROVIDE A SOFT HAND OFF. WE'RE NOT THE ENEMY. WE PROVIDE LIGHT SNACKS FOR THEM, UM SO THE COOPER OPERATION IS 100. WE HAVE LITTLE TO NO UM ISSUES WITH THE YOUTH AT ALL. SO I THINK THAT IT'S BEST THAT WE KEEP THE SCREEN CENTER IN JEFFERSON COUNTY AND KEEP IT UNDER OUR PURVIEW OF, UM LOUISVILLE METRO. THANK YOU, AND I WOULD HOPE WE CAN HELP ADVOCATE FOR THAT, EVEN THROUGH THE STATE THAT YOU KEEP THAT MY OTHER PART OF THE QUESTION WAS TRAINING, FAMILY AND SUPPORT. I KNOW THAT A LOT OF TIMES WE KNOW WE HAVE REAL URBAN AND SUBURBAN AND WHEN OUR URBAN YOUTH ARE TAKEN TO THE RURAL COUNTIES, THEY'RE IN A WHOLE NEW WORLD AND NOT A LOT OF SUPPORT. NOT A LOT OF FAMILY VISITATIONS. IT REMINDS YOU OF THE MOVIE WHEN THEY SEE US OF THE CENTRAL PARK FIVE AND OTHER THINGS. UM HAS THERE BEEN, UM MORE EMPHASIS ON TRAINING? CULTURAL AWARENESS ON HOW WE DEAL WITH THE YOUTH. HOW WE TALK TO THE YOUTH, UM, AS FAR AS THOSE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING, BECAUSE I KNOW I'M NOT EXPECTING THEM TO LIKE. LISTEN TO EACH OTHER'S MUSIC ON THE RIDE THERE, BUT ARE THERE SOME THINGS THAT YOU'VE ALL PUT IN PLACE WITH THE COMMUNICATION WITH THE YOUTH DURING THAT PROCESS OF TRANSPORTATION? YES COUNCILWOMAN, UM, WE ACTUALLY DO VERBAL JUDO WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS. WE ALSO HAVE IN HOUSE MENTAL HEALTH TRAINING. WE DO DIVERSION, INCLUSION, TRAINING AND JUST SOMETHING THAT SAID. THAT'S SO SIMPLE. WE ALLOW THEM TO LISTEN TO MUSIC. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN SOOTHE THEM ON A FOUR HOUR TRIP, SO IDENTIFY WHILE WE'RE IN BODY CAMERAS IS HEY, CAN WE CHANGE THE MUSIC SOMETIMES AND THEN IT'S LIKE I'M A LITTLE LENIENT ON THAT, BECAUSE IT KEEPS THEM CALM FOR FOUR HOURS. WHAT ELSE CAN THEY DO? THEY HAVE NOTHING BUT TIME ON THEIR HANDS. THANK YOU. IT'S BEEN AND UM LIKE TO OUR CHAIRPERSON HAS SAID WE WANT TO HELP IN ANY WAY THAT WE CAN SO PLEASE. UM LET US KNOW. I APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION. IT WAS VERY THOROUGH. AND I'M LOOKING FOR WAYS WE CAN WORK TOGETHER. THANK YOU. VICE YOUR DANCES, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT INCIDENTALS. UM I SEE THERE'S NO CHART ON INCIDENTALS IN YOUR PRESENTATION . UH WHAT ARE YOU? WHAT ARE YOU DEALING WITH THE MOST DRUGS? VIOLENCE UM, HOW ARE YOU? TRANSPORTING ARE YOU TRANSPORTING FEMALES AND MALES AT THE SAME TIME? UH, ON THESE FOUR HOUR TRIPS, UM WHAT ARE THE BIGGEST ISSUES YOU HAVE WITH INCIDENTALS? AND I WANNA MAKE A NOTE OF THAT TOO. BECAUSE WE DO KEEP, UH, KPIS ON THOSE. THEY WERE JUST NOT, UH, LOCATED IN THESE SLIDES. INCIDENTALS MAY OCCUR ONE TIME A YEAR. SO WE DO HAVE YOUTH THAT SUFFER FROM MENTAL HEALTH. UH, THEY MAY KICK OUT THE THEY MAY TRY TO KICK OUT THE BACK WINDOWS. WE USE FLEXI BLAST ON THOSE VEHICLES. WE DO DRIVE POLICE INTERCEPTOR VEHICLES, SO THEY ARE EQUIPPED [00:45:01] AND FITTED TO, UH TRANSPORT INCARCERATED YOU SO WE PROVIDE SECURE TRANSPORT. WE DO NOT TRANSPORT MALES AND FEMALES DUE TO PRE GUIDELINES, THE PRISON RAPE ELIMINATION ACT GUIDELINES. SO THOSE, UH MALE YOUTH ARE SENT TO ONE AGENCY AND FEMALE YOUTH ARE SENT TO OTHER AGENCIES SO FEMALE DRIVERS WILL BE WITH THE FEMALES AND THE MALE DRIVERS. MALES WILL BE WITH THE MALE DRIVERS. SOMETIMES A FEMALE CAN GO WITH THAT MALE DRIVER. BUT MOST OF THE TIME WE TRY TO HAVE THE SAME SEX DRIVES DRIVERS ON THOSE RUNS. THANK YOU. NO PROBLEM. THANK YOU. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OK UM MRI WANNA THANK YOU FOR COMING TODAY? ALSO I WANT YOU TO KEEP US, UM, IN THE LOOP WITH THIS PRELIMINARY, UM, THE YOUTH. IT IS VITAL IN OUR CITY. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. A LOT OF PEOPLE TEND TO TAKE THEIR EYES OFF OF THE YOUTH UNTIL SOMETHING HAPPENS. UM AND I WANNA SAY THANK YOU. I WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS DO EVERY DAY. EFFORTLESSLY. UM I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GUYS DO IT, BUT, UH UH, YOU'RE DOING A LOT OF STUFF THAT A LINE OF PEOPLE DON'T WANNA DO. AND THAT'S WHY JCYC ISN'T HERE TODAY. SO THANK YOU KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK, AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO COLLECTIVELY, WE WILL. THANK YOU . THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US CITY COUNCIL. MADAM CLERK, CAN YOU READ ITEM TWO. IN THE RECORD, PLEASE? VIOLENCE PREVENTION COMMUNITY REENTRY AND MENTORSHIP TOMES. MCDOWELL BOSSES DO BAKER'S INC RED AND FULL. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, AND THEN YOU CAN BEGIN. GIVE US A SECOND. I LOVE OH, OK. THE OK? DEMETRIUS, MAGDA. FOUNDER OF BOSS IB INC. NONPROFIT. THANKS FOR BEING HERE TODAY. YOU WANNA TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT? UM EXACTLY WHAT YOU DO, UH, WHAT SERVICES YOU PROVIDE FOR THE YOUTH? THINGS OF THAT NATURE? UM PRETTY MUCH ON A GRASSROOT LEVEL. I PRETTY MUCH BACK UP THE, UH TO SERVICES THAT JUST LEFT. UH I PROVIDE, UH, PROGRAM TRANSPORTATION AND MENTORSHIP FOR JUSTICE INVOLVED YOUTH, BUT I ALSO AM A MENTOR PROGRAM FOR, UH, INDIVIDUALS IN THE COMMUNITY . I WORK, UH, IN DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES AS FAR AS SMOKETOWN RUSSELL NEW BIRD, AND, UH, THE NINE NEIGHBORHOODS OF THE WEST, YOU KNOW? UM PRETTY MUCH JUST BALANCE PREVENTION AND REENTRY AND MENTORSHIP. OK, WHAT'S YOUR DIRECT SERVICES ARE THE DIRECT SERVICES THAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW? AND IS THAT I PROVIDE, UH, EVENING REPORT? INCENTIVE FOR JUSTICE INVOLVED. YOU, UM I COLLABORATE AND, UH SORRY. I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT. I COLLABORATE WITH DIFFERENT, UH, GRASSROOT ORGANIZATION TO PROVIDE ENTREPRENEUR MENTORSHIP AND MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES. SO IT'S PART PART OF REENTRY IS IF ANY JUVENILE OR YOUNG PERSON COMES IN CONTACT WITH THE POLICE. THEY AUTOMATICALLY, UH, DEALING WITH THE, UM JU JUDICIAL SYSTEM. SO WHAT WE DO IS TRY TO, UH, REDIRECT THEM FROM BEING USED TO THOSE SERVICES OF DEALING WITH, UH THE JUVENILE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AND PRETTY MUCH GET THEM SET UP TO WHERE THEY CAN, UH, BE PRODUCTIVE CITIZENS. AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A FACILITY THAT WE TOOK, UM AND WE STARTED, UH, PROGRAMMING WITH [00:50:06] , UH, 20 INDIVIDUALS RIGHT NOW THAT WE COLLABORATE WITH ANOTHER, UH, MENTAL HEALTH SERVICE TO PROVIDE UM ASPIRATION SPEAKERS TO COME IN AND INSPIRE OUR YOUNG PEOPLE TO GO BACK OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND PICK UP WHETHER IT BE A VOCATIONAL OR A JOB, AND THEREFORE WE'RE ABLE TO TURN THEM AROUND FROM THE CYCLE OF VIOLENCE OR ANYTHING THAT THEY WERE ALREADY USED TO DOING AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO OBTAIN A BUILDING THAT CAN HOLD UP TO 60 INDIVIDUALS AND BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE A YOUTH TRANSITIONAL SERVICE FOR, UM I SUBSTITUTE. I GUESS YOU COULD SAY FOR JCYC WILL BE HOLDING, UH, STARTING A ALTERNATIVE SHELTER, ALMOST REPLICATING THE SAFE PLACE ON Y MC A PRINTING AND DRIVE SO NIGHT DROP OFFS IS WHAT? UH THINK OF A NIGHT THAT JUST LEFT WHILE SHE WAS SPEAKING TO IS THAT, UH, OFFICERS? WOULD USUALLY HOLD ON TO, UH, JUVENILES UNTIL THEY WERE ABLE TO, UH, FIND A PLACEMENT FOR HIM. I'LL TALK TO A JUDGE, SO WE'LL BE HAVING AN ALTERNATIVE SHELTER THEY COULD PROVIDE NEEDS FOR THAT. BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE ARE PROVIDING SERVICES FOR 20. INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE JUST AS INVOLVED AND WHAT WE DO IS BASICALLY WE'RE PART OF A DIVERSION PROGRAM. SO MOST OF OUR OUR YOUNG PEOPLE HAVE HAD GUN CHARGES, STOLEN CAR CHARGES AND AFTER 3 TO 6 MONTHS OF OUR PROGRAM, AND THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HAVE THE CHARGES AMENDED IN TRANSITION INTO, UH MORE PRODUCTIVE GET A JOB OR CONTINUE TO PROGRAM OR COME BACK AS PEER SUPPORT. DO YOU WORK WITH, UM YOU WORK WITH THE, UH, JUVENILE COURT SYSTEM IN ANY WAY. YES, I DO. I RECEIVE REFERRALS FROM DETENTION ALTERNATIVE COORDINATORS. UH, JEFF, UH, JUVENILE SERVICE WORKERS AND COURT DESIGNATED WORKERS D, A CJ SW AND CD W. I ALSO PARTNER WITH. UH UH, WELL, I'M CONTRACTED TO THE STATE. YOU SAID YOU CONTACTED WITH THE STATE? YES, MA'AM TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES OF AN EVENING REPORTING CENTER, WHICH IS LIKE I SAID IT, UH HELPS OUT WITH IDLE TIME. WHILE THESE JUSTICE INVOLVED YOU SO THEY THEY CAN GET INTO SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE. OK, SO WHAT ABOUT, UH, OCEAN AND GV? I DO YOU, UM YES. UH, SO FOR THEM OR WHAT'S YOUR ROLE WITH THEM, OR DO YOU HAVE ONE? UH I DO NOT. I USED TO WORK FOR OCEAN AND, UM I THINK I'M MORE OF A DIRECT SERVICE VERSUS A REFERENCE. UH, IT'S NOT IN COMPARISON. UH OCEAN. I THINK THEY PROVIDE REFERENCES. I PROVIDE A DIRECT SERVICE. AND HOW MANY BEDS DO YOU HAVE IN YOUR FACILITY? AND WHERE'S YOUR FACILITY AT AGAIN? C AND DRIVE IS, UM IN THE BEACHMONT AREA. SO IT'S ALMOST A NEUTRAL TERRITORY FOR SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE, AND RIGHT NOW I CAN HOLD UP TO 60 INDIVIDUALS RIGHT NOW. I'M WORKING WITH 20. THEN OVERNIGHT STAYS WILL BE FIVE INDIVIDUALS. UM JUST FOR SAFETY SAFETY REASONS. OK, SO WHAT? WHAT? WHAT KIND OF DATA? WOULD YOU SAY? YOU SAID, LIKE 60, YOU CAN HOLD UP TO 60. YES, MA'AM. SO UM, OUR SERVICE 200 INDIVIDUALS AND THAT'S FROM THE RUSSELL NEIGHBORHOOD TO SMOKETOWN NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THE CONTRACT THAT I SERVICE. UM D JJ IS PRETTY MUCH T 20. SO I FEED AND MENTOR, UH, UP TO 60 INDIVIDUALS IN THE RUSSELL NEIGHBORHOOD. OUR CONTRACT WITH THE Y MC A TO BE ABLE TO I GUESS BE, UH A SUBSTITUTE FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER THAT WAS TORN DOWN IN BAXTER. AND BEING THAT Y MC A IS A MEMBERSHIP ONLY, UH, DUE TO THAT, THAT I AM A NONPROFIT OR GRASSROOT, UM I'M ABLE TO TAKE ON SOME LIABILITY AND MENTORSHIP WITH THE PARTNERSHIPS THAT I HAVE. SO I SERVE AS 60 YOUNG PEOPLE THAT NOT THAT ARE NOT JUST AS INVOLVED IN ■THE RUSSELL COMMUNITY AND THEN IN THE SMALL TOWN COMMUNITY I SERVICE UP TO 40. THAT'S UH AFTER SCHOOL, UH, MENTORING AND TUTORING FROM MAIK MIDDLE SCHOOL AT THE CAMP EDWARDS SITE, WHICH IS, UH CONNECTED TO BATES MEMORIAL. UM AND THEN THE LIKE I SAID THE 20 INDIVIDUALS THAT I SERVICE FOR, UM D JJ IS A EVENING REPORTING CENTER. I ALSO PICK UP INDIVIDUALS FROM THOSE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS AND BRING THEM OUT . SO ANY GIVEN DAY I COULD HAVE UP TO 20 OR 40 INDIVIDUALS IN MY FACILITY. WHAT TYPE OF STAFF DO YOU HAVE? WHAT'S YOUR NUMBER OF [00:55:02] STAFF? UH EXPERIENCES, UH, IN THE PARTNERSHIP THAT THEY HAVE WHEN IT COMES TO, UM LIKE A PREVENTION AND WHAT TYPE OF BUDGET DOES IT TAKE? OR YOU'RE JUST TOTALLY GETTING FUN. YOU YOU DON'T GET ANY METRO MONEY. NO MA'AM, UH, THAT'S THE NEED. IF ANYTHING, IT WOULD BE FOR MORE STAFF TO BE ABLE TO, UH, SERVICE MORE INDIVIDUALS IN A DIFFERENT TYPE OF WAY. SO THE STAFF THAT I HAVE NOW ARE JUST REALLY TO CATER TO THE FACILITY. UM MOST OF MY, UH, I CAN'T REALLY SAY STAFF BECAUSE IT'S REALLY PARTNERING WITH OTHER GRASSROOTS ORGANIZATIONS WHO PROVIDE THE SAME SERVICE BUT JUST DON'T HAVE THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COMMUNITY. AND I'M ALMOST LIKE A CATCH. YOU KNOW, I PRETTY MUCH HAVE RELATIONSHIPS IN DIFFERENT COMMUNITY, WHICH ALLOWS ME TO WORK WITH A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE. BUT I ALSO PARTNER WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE, SO I CAN'T REALLY SAY I HAVE THOSE. THAT'S MY STAFF. THEY'RE JUST MY COMMUNITY PARTNERS. OK AND MOST OF YOUR FUNDING COMES FROM, UH D JJ D JJ IT REALLY JUST IT JUST COMES FROM, UH YEAH, THE BUDGET THAT I HAVE OK. AND DO YOU HAVE THAT BUDGET? WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE? OR OR HAVE YOU MET THE BUDGET THAT YOU WOULD KNOW? I, UH, I ACTUALLY WAS THE LAST CONTRACT IT PICKED UP. AND BUT I'M THE ONLY CONTRACTOR THAT'S RUNNING AT FULL CAPACITY RIGHT NOW. I THINK IT WAS A SUBSTITUTE FOR JCWC TO BE ABLE TO, UH, KEEP YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST AS INVOLVED, UM BUSY AND LEARNING SOMETHING VERSUS JUST BEING INCARCERATED. UM YOU KNOW A SUBSTITUTE NOT TO LOCK UP THE PROBLEM, BUT MORE OR LESS, UH, HELP OUT INDIVIDUALS IN ADVANCE TO WHERE THEY HAD IN LIFE, I GUESS. AND HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN IN THE LOCATION? UM THAT YOU'RE IN NOW AND BEFORE THEM. WHERE WAS YOU AT? UH RIGHT NOW, I'M GONNA GET THIS LOCATION FOR THREE MONTHS, BUT I'VE BEEN AT THE Y MC, A CONTRACTING WITH THEM. REALLY JUST DOING, UH, VOLUNTEER PHILANTHROPY WORK. BUT DUE TO THE RELATIONSHIPS, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY, LIKE, UH, A YEAR AND A HALF. HOW MANY DRIVERS DO YOU HAVE THAT PICKS THOSE KIDS UP? DID THEY PICK THEM UP AT THE SCHOOL? DO THEY PICK THEM UP AT HOME? HOW TO HOW DO THEY GET THERE? BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF FAR FROM, UM, THOSE AREAS THAT YOU SPOKE TO RUSSELL TO C AND J DRIVE. DO THEIR PARENTS DROP THEM OFF OR NO 90% OF OUR PARTICIPANTS, UH, NEED TRANSPORTATION. SO I HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT DRIVERS AND UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW OUR YOUNG PEOPLE DON'T GET DISTRACTED WITH THE PROGRAM. WE DO PICK UP FROM SCHOOL. SO, UM WE'RE IN THE LINES. I GUESS YOU COULD SAY ABOUT 20 MINUTES BEFORE SCHOOL IS OUT THAT PICKUP LINE UH, TIME AND THEN WE ALSO WILL PICK UP FROM HOME. IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW IT GOES WITH OUR OUR ROUTES AND ROUTINE TO THE POINT WHERE WE GET THEM AT ABOUT 430 PROGRAM, USUALLY LAST TO SEVEN. OK? OK? COMMITTEE MEMBER. UH, SHAMIKA PERISH, RIGHT. YOU HAVE THE FOUR. THANK YOU. UM I WANNA THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. I'VE ACTUALLY PARTICIPATED IN ONE OF YOUR PANELS BEFORE TALKING ABOUT BALANCE AND ACTIVISM AND, UM, DEFINITELY BELIEVE IN DIRECTLY IMPACTED PEOPLE LEADING THE WAY IN THIS WORK, UM I. I UM I'M LOOKING AT YOUR NON WEST PROPOSAL. IS THAT THE PROPOSAL YOU'RE DISCUSSING? AND I THINK THAT IT IT LOOKS GOOD. I WANTED TO KNOW AS YOUR FOCUS TO HIRE MORE DIRECTLY IMPACTED PEOPLE. UH YES, I THINK THE ONLY WAY THAT WE CAN PREVENT SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE IS THROUGH RELATIONSHIPS AND RELATABLE PEOPLE AND WHICH IS FROM MY EXPERIENCE OF HAVING THAT BACKGROUND AND THE LEVERAGE THAT I HAVE TO EVEN BREAK ANY TYPE OF BARRIERS WITH THE INDIVIDUALS I SERVICE IS BECAUSE WE ARE FAMILIAR IN RELATIONSHIPS SO, YES, IF WE WERE TO EMPOWER THE COMMUNITY WHO COULD RELATE TO THE PEOPLE WE'RE TRYING TO SERVE. I THINK WE'LL GET ALONG FURTHER. AND WOULD YOU BE LOOKING? I KNOW YOU, UM SAID THAT A LOT OF YOUR FUNDING HAS COME FROM D JJ DEPARTMENT OF JUVENILE JUSTICE. IS THAT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING IT AND THEN DO YOU? ARE YOU EXPECTING FOR IT TO BE A PART OF THE CITY'S BUDGET OR TO RECEIVE SOME FUNDING FROM THE CITY GOVERNMENT FOR YOUR PROGRAMMING I WOULD LIKE TO, AND I GUESS I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING FOR THE MOST PART, UM BECAUSE I KNOW THIS BUDGET WOULD DIFFER FROM CITY BUDGET AND I'VE ACCUMULATED A LOT OF RELATIONSHIPS AND JUST LIKE MOST GRASSROOTS, I WOULDN'T WANT THIS NOT TO WORK DUE TO FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY. SO YES , I WOULD, IF NOTHING ELSE, LIKE [01:00:02] I SAID, STAFF BEING ABLE TO HIRE AND EMPOWER THOSE WHO ARE RELATABLE TO BECAUSE THIS IS THE ONLY WAY IT WORKS IS THROUGH RELATIONSHIPS. I THINK IT'S GREAT AND IT'S UM, INITIATIVE THAT WE SHOULD BE SUPPORTING. IF AS WE CAN, WOULD, UM, HAVE YOU BEEN IN CONTACT WITH? I KNOW THERE'S A BUNCH OF VIOLENCE PREVENTIONS THAT ARE GOING UNDER , UM, DIFFERENT COALITION WORK, OFFICER SAFETY AND HEALTHY NEIGHBORHOODS. HAVE YOU BEEN CONNECTED TO THAT BECAUSE I KNOW THEY HAD DIFFERENT RE GRANTING PROCESSES. OR ARE YOU LOOKING TO, UM, SEE WHAT WE CAN DO? AS FAR AS LIKE EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT BECAUSE I DO THINK YOUR WORK IS EVEN IF NON WESTERN AND ONE EAST IS EVEN IF IT INCLUDED JUST THE NON, UM, NEIGHBORHOODS. IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE WHEN VIOLENCE OR WHEN A GANG VIOLENCE , YOUTH VIOLENCE, ADULT VIOLENCE HAPPENS, IT COMES FROM DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE COUNTY. SO I THINK THERE'S A BUY IN FOR ALL OF OUR DISTRICTS, BUT JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A CONNECTION TO WHAT'S ALREADY HAPPENING IF POSSIBLE, WITH OFFICER SAFETY. THE NEIGHBORHOODS. IF YOU'VE BEEN IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM, I HAVE I ACTUALLY WORK FOR, UH, OFFICE FOR SAFE AND HEALTHY NEIGHBORHOODS. I WENT THROUGH ALL OF THE AMBASSADOR TRAININGS AS PRETTY MUCH WHERE, UH, I GOT A LOT OF MY IDEAS FROM BUT IT IT WASN'T TAYLOR FITTED FOR LOUISVILLE. A LOT OF, UH PROGRAMS. I THINK THAT ARE FUNDED THROUGH OCEAN ARE ADOPTED FROM DIFFERENT STATES AND CITIES . AND UH, I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF TALK ABOUT GANG BALANCE, BUT IT'S MORE OF AN INFLUENTIAL PROBLEM, AND I CAN SPEAK TO THAT FROM EXPERIENCE OF AND I ONLY SAY THAT BECAUSE THERE'S NO RANKS. IN LOUISVILLE TO THE POINT WHERE THERE'S A OLDER WHAT WE CALL A OG THAT COULD TELL A YOUNG PERSON NOT TO DO SOMETHING. IF I HAVE MORE INFLUENCE AND MONEY THAN YOU, THEN YOU CAN'T TELL ME ANYTHING. SO THIS IS A TAILOR MADE AND TAILOR FITTED FOR DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES BASED ON THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT ARE IN DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES. SO I HAVE , UM, WORKED WITH THE OCEAN. UH, UM, PARTNERED ON A LOT OF, UH, FACILITATION MEETINGS. BUT UM, LIKE I SAID ONCE BEFORE. THIS IS A DIRECT SERVICE. I THINK OCEAN MORE SO CATERS TO A REFERENCE. TO OTHER GRASSROOTS WHO COULD YOU KNOW, UH, FACILITATE SERVICES AND THIS IS BASED ON PARTNERSHIPS WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE DIRECTLY, UH PROVIDE SERVICE IF NOTHING ELSE TRAINING INDIVIDUALS WHO DON'T KNOW THE WORK. IT IS IN THIS, UH PROGRAM TO BE ABLE TO TRAIN THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW. TRAIN TO TRAIN. I GUESS YOU COULD SAY I LIKE THAT. AND I DON'T DOUBT IT. AND MADAM CHAIR JUST THE LAST PART OF THIS. THANK YOU. UM I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU MAY BECOME S MAY SIT NEXT NEXT TO ME. IF YOU COME THROUGH THE ELECTION, I WOULD NOT TALK ABOUT THAT. I KNOW YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT. BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE CLEAR THAT IF YOU'RE SEEKING LOCAL, UH, FUNDS THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE CLEAR SEPARATION OF WHO'S GONNA BE IN WHAT ROLE AND WHAT ROLE YOU MAY BE IN IF YOU CHOOSE TO BE THIS PERSON. THAT'S A FRIENDLY ADVICE . I WOULD GIVE ANYBODY. YES MA'AM. THANK YOU. I HAVE NO DOUBT IN YOUR WORK AND NO DOUBT IN YOUR ABILITIES. I JUST WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT THAT PART OF IT AS YOU TRANSITION, BUT THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU. OK NEXT. I'M GONNA PASS THE CHURCH. I MEAN THE FLOOR TO VICE CHAIR OF THE INSECTS. THING THIS YEAR. UM I'M CURIOUS ABOUT SOME OF THE PROGRAMMING THAT YOU'RE OFFERING . WHEN YOU HAVE THIS MANY KIDS WHAT ARE WHAT ARE YOU HELPING THESE KIDS WITH, OR ARE YOU PARTNERING UP WITH ANYBODY TO HELP WITH WITH TRADES? UH, ANY EDUCATION? UM COULD YOU SPECIFY SOME OF THE PROGRAMMING THAT YOU'RE YOU'RE WORKING WITH THESE KIDS WITH? SO I HAVE A PROGRAM THAT I CALL THE VILLAGE WHICH ALLOWS ME TO PARTNER WITH DIFFERENT AGENCIES AND ENTITIES THAT CAN COME IN PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES WHETHER IT BE MENTORSHIP. VOCATIONAL. UH, APPAREL IS WHAT A LOT OF OUR KIDS ARE INTO SO I DO DO EMBROIDERY CLASSES AND, UH, SCREEN PRINTING AND, UH I ALSO PARTNER AND WORK WITH SO AND SEEDS WITH FAITH WITH DAMIAN FLEMINGS, WHICH IS, UH, AFTER SCHOOL MENTORSHIP. SO THE CATCH AND THE CATCH. I'M THE ONE THAT CAN RELATE. I GO OUT HERE AND ROUND UP OUR, UM BEHAVIORAL CHALLENGE KIDS AND I AND I START THOSE RELATIONSHIPS AND ANYBODY WHO WORKS WITH ME. IS IT BASED ON RELATIONSHIP? SO UH, I ALSO HAVE A PROGRAM CALLED BOSSES, WHICH IS AN ENTREPRENEURIAL MENTORSHIP WHERE WE PROVIDE, UM FUNDING STIPEND TO THE INDIVIDUALS TO GO OUT AND WORK FOR OTHER BUSINESS IN THE COMMUNITY. THEREFORE WE'RE ABLE TO BRIDGE THOSE G. THOSE GAPS AND START THOSE, UH, RELATIONSHIPS IN THE COMMUNITY SO THAT BUSINESS THRIVES ON GETTING FREE LABOR IN THAT CHILD STAYS AT THAT YOUNG PERSON STAYS OUT OF TROUBLE WHILE EARNING AND LEARNING A VOCATION, VOCATIONAL. RIGHT? THANK YOU FOR YOUR MENTORSHIP. THANK. I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE. ANYONE HAS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OK I [01:05:15] WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR, UH, COMING IN FRONT OF US TODAY. AND IF YOU YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD BE A VESSEL OR WORK, I WOULD ADVANCE TO GET WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND TRY TO GET ON THE BUDGET AND SEE IF WE CAN HELP YOU. AND THANKS FOR ALL THAT YOU DO FOR THE YOUTH. YES. I APPRECIATE THE, UH ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. NO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. HEARING NO [Adjournment Note: Agendas are followed at the discretion of the Chair. While an item may be listed, it does not mean all items will be heard and/or acted upon by the Committee.] FURTHER BUSINESS BEFORE US. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. FOR WHAT? * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.