Mar 06, 2024 Public Safety Committee

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YEAH.

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[Call to Order]

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[Roll Call]

[2. O-023-24     ORDINANCE AMENDING THE LOUISVILLE/JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT CODE OF ORDINANCES (“LMCO”) CHAPTER 115 REGULATING POP UP PARTIES. Action Required By: August 2024 Sponsors: Rick Blackwell (D-12) ]

MY NAME IS BRAD SILVERIA. IT'S SALVE RIA. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE CONTROL.

SO WE APPROACHED THIS ORDINANCE. UM COUNCILMAN BLACKWELL. AFTER WE RAN INTO SOME TWO PRONGED APPROACH. I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT ANOTHER ITEM LATER ON ON THE AGENDA. THIS HAS TO DO WITH PARTIES AND THINGS THAT HAPPEN WITHOUT PERMITS AT LOCATIONS THAT DON'T HAVE ALCOHOL LICENSES OR PLACES THAT SELL FOOD AND FOR ONE EXAMPLE WE HAD AN ESTABLISHMENT AT 17TH AND HILL.

THEY WERE SELLING. FOOD AND ALCOHOL ILLEGALLY, AND IT WAS CAUSING THE NEIGHBORS ALL KINDS OF TROUBLE. WE ULTIMATELY CONDUCTED A SEARCH WARRANT AT THAT LOCATION. UH, IT RESULTED IN. WE SENT A CEASE AND DESIST LETTER TO THE OWNER HAD MULTIPLE MEETINGS WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT, IT CONTINUED. ULTIMATELY I SAW IT, UM INJUNCTIVE RELIEF FROM THE CIRCUIT COURT. AND WE WERE FINALLY ABLE TO GIVE THE NEIGHBORS SOME PEACE. AND WHAT THIS DOES, IS IT PUTS INTO WRITING EXACTLY WHAT WHAT MEASURES WE TOOK. TO PUT OUT A BUSINESS. PEOPLE WHO REALLY SHOULD NOT BE IN BUSINESS. THERE IS A METHOD IN WHICH THEY CAN LEGALLY OPERATE. IN THIS CODIFIES HOW THE GOVERNMENT. THROUGH THE ABC CAN SHUT DOWN. BAD ACTORS. SO YOU DID GIVE THE

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THANK YOU. UH, THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. YEAH, JUST, UH, A COUPLE OF THINGS TO ADD. UM AND THAT IS, UM ONE APPRECIATE. UH BRAD'S , UH, KIND OF PROACTIVE APPROACH TO TRYING TO SOLVE THE ISSUES, YOU KNOW, AND TRYING TO. WE'VE GOT THESE ISSUES. SO HOW DO WE SET IT FORWARD SO THAT IF THERE SO THERE CAN BE A LEGAL WAY, BUT SETTING IT VERY CLEARLY THAT THESE ARE THE PARAMETERS OF THE LEGAL WAY SO THAT EVERYBODY'S CLEAR ON THAT. UH SO, UH, THAT IS A GOOD THING. WE MEET OFTEN AND WE TALK TO THE FOLKS WHO ARE PROFESSIONALS. AND WE SAY, OK, SO WHAT CAN WE DO TO PROVIDE TOOLS FOR YOU TOOLS IN THE TOOLBOX FOR YOU TO DO YOUR JOB? UH THIS IS ONE. WE'LL TALK ABOUT ONE A LITTLE BIT LATER. UM BUT THEN IN THE SECOND THING I WOULD POINT OUT IS THAT IT DOES THEN PUT THIS WHOLE PIECE UNDER ABC. SINCE IT DOES INVOLVE LIQUOR. IT PUTS IT UNDER ABC INSTEAD OF CODE ENFORCEMENT, SO I'VE REPLACED IT WHERE IT USED TO BE UNDER CODE ENFORCEMENT NOW GETS CHANGED, AND IT'S UNDER ABC, WHICH ALSO MAKES SENSE BECAUSE IT I'M REALLY SURE WHAT WAS IN CODE ENFORCEMENT BEFORE, BUT IT MAKES SENSE TO PUT IT IN OUR ABC WHERE THEY CAN, UH, FOCUS ON IT SINCE IT IS IT DOES INVOLVE, UM, POP UP SHOWS LIKE HER. APPRECIATE A YES VOTE. OK? COUNCIL. VICE AND SENSE. COULD YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT CONSTITUTES A POP UP PARTY? IS IT IN A PRIVATE PLACE? IS IT ON A PUBLIC PLACE? TYPICALLY, WHAT WE FIND IS AN ESTABLISHMENT WILL ADVERTISE ONLINE. PUT OUT TICKETS. PEOPLE WILL SHOW UP THIS ONE EXAMPLE. I'M NOT GONNA NAME THE ESTABLISHMENT, BUT I WILL SAY THEY SOLD PIZZA AND SUB SANDWICHES. BUT OPERATED EVEN BEYOND THE 4 A.M. LICENSE. UH, SOLD ALCOHOL THE WHOLE NINE YARDS. UM, WE'VE UTILIZED THIS.

METHOD PROBABLY TWICE SO IT CONSTITUTES DANCING TO A NIGHTLIFE WITHOUT PERMITS. OF ANY KIND THAT BOTH THESE ESTABLISHMENTS WERE SOME OF THEM. THEM ARE BYOB SCENARIOS.

CAN YOU BRING YOUR OWN ALCOHOL? AND WITHOUT ANY LEGAL BASIS FOR DOING SO. AND IN KENTUCKY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A ABC LICENSE TO SELL AND SERVE AND TRAFFIC AND ALCOHOLIC CAN'T EVEN GIVE IT AWAY. UM IN THIS. WHAT WE ALSO DID IS I BELIEVE LOUISVILLE METRO POLICE ARE ALSO EMPOWERED UNDER THIS ORDINANCE TO ENFORCE IT BEFORE AND AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS. IT'S IMPLIED THAT A POP UP PARTY THAT'S UNPERMITTED CAN BE SHUT DOWN. UH, IF IT'S OPERATING ILLEGALLY, AND NOW IT IT'S SPECIFIES HOW WE HOW LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN DO SO. IS THIS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, TOO? PRIVATE PROPERTY. IF IT WERE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC WOULD BE, UM SUSCEPTIBLE. SO IF THEY'RE ADVERTISING ONLINE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE ONE IT WAS OVER. ALSO IN EAST BURNETT. WITHOUT AGAIN TRYING TO NOT NAME NAMES UNLESS YOU'RE REQUIRED. I. I WILL. IF YOU NEED ME TO UM THIS ESTABLISHMENT SAID THEY WERE CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC. HOWEVER. THEY WERE ADVERTISING ONLINE.

THERE WAS A LINE DOWN THE SIDEWALK AND WHEN YOU KNOW WE WOULD SHOW UP THERE. TELL US IT WAS A BIRTHDAY PARTY. WITH 1000 OF THEIR BEST FRIENDS. SO UM WITHOUT BEING FUNNY. THAT'S THE TYPE OF SCENARIO WE RUN INTO, AND WE ARE REALLY TRYING TO KEEP WAR WILL SAVE AND WE NEED THE TOOLS IN WHICH TO DO SO. AND THIS. THIS WILL HELP SHORE UP SOME OF THE PROBLEMS WE'VE FOUND. WHILE TRYING TO ENFORCE THE LOCAL LAWS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. OK SO, UM, WHEN YOU IDENTIFY POP UP PARTIES, UM SO IS THIS HOW YOU IDENTIFYING THE POP UP PARTIES IS, UM LET'S SAY I'M GOING TO USE FOR EXAMPLE, JIM PORTERS THEY USED TO BE IN BUSINESS. UM IF THEY READ IT, THEY THEY SPACING OUT WHAT THEY HAVE TO CONTACT YOU ALL. UM IF IT WAS A SOMETHING THAT THEY DID , LIKE A SUB LEASE TO SOMEONE, UH, WHAT WOULD BE THE PROCESS? UH, FOR THAT, OR DO YOU HAVE THAT ALREADY LINED OUT? THERE IS AN APPLICATION. IF YOU WANT TO DO A POP UP PARTY, LET'S SAY YOU DO A RENTAL HALL. YOU HAVE AN AVENUE IN WHICH YOU CAN APPLY FOR A LIQUOR LICENSE AND THAT IT'S NOT A VERY HARD PROCESS. IT TAKES A LITTLE TIME. UM BUT TO APPLY FOR A POP UP PARTY PERMIT.

YOU APPLY. IT'S WE'RE WE'RE STILL ON PAPER. AT THE MOMENT. WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING THAT

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ANYONE THAT I'D BE WILLING TO EVEN UTILIZE THE MAILING LIST OF THAT WE ALL USE FROM PEOPLE SUBSCRIBE ABOUT ALCOHOL NOTICES. WE COULD SEND THIS OUT. AS AN ORDINANCE OF SO THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT WHAT THE DEPARTMENT'S INTENTION IS, IF YOU RUN IN AN ILLEGAL POP UP PARTY. THAT'S UNLICENSED. OK AND YOU CAN PROVIDE. UM THE, UM THAT INFORMATION SO WE CAN PUT IN OUR NEWSLETTERS. YES, MA'AM, CORRECT. MADAM CHAIR. I HAVE A SURE SORRY ABOUT THAT, MR P, RIGHT? YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. IT'S HARD TO LIKE, PUT YOUR HAND UP IN THE MEETINGS, BUT THANK YOU. UM THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. YOU BROUGHT UP ONE PART OF MY QUESTION, I. I ACTUALLY RENTED MADAM CHAIRS, UH, RENTAL SPACE, AND THAT SPACE HAPPENS TO BE RIGHT NEXT TO A LIQUOR STORE IN IN THE CHALI IN MY DISTRICT THREE AND I. I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE CLEAR LANGUAGE. I'M WORRIED ABOUT EQUITY AND HOW PEOPLE HAVE PARTIES. UM IF BOBYO BS ARE NOT ALLOWED, THAT NEEDS TO BE CLEAR PEOPLE NEED UNDERSTAND WHAT TO BE OBYOB AND LIKE COUNCILMAN, S SAID, WHAT'S CONSIDERED TO BE A POP UP PARTY. WHAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT IS THAT IF I'M IN A CERTAIN END OF TOWN AND I DECIDE TO HAVE AN EVENT, AND IT'S NOT A PROBLEM THERE, THERE'S NO NEIGHBOR COMPLAINS ABOUT IT. BUT IF I'M IN ANOTHER PART OF TOWN, AND THE NEIGHBOR COMPLAINS ABOUT IT, AND IF I DON'T KNOW IF THAT PARTY IS PRIVATE OR I. I MEAN, I WOULDN'T KNOW IF I THREW THE PARTY, BUT THAT NEIGHBOR DOESN'T KNOW IF THAT'S A PRIVATE OR A PUBLIC PARTY. SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT AS YOU TO DO THIS LEGISLATION THAT THERE'S EQUITY AND INFUSED INTO THIS BECAUSE WE'VE HAD ISSUES WHERE ONE THING IS DIFFERENT FOR THE EAST END, AND ANOTHER THING IS DIFFERENT FOR THE WEST AND THE SOUTH END. AND THEN I'VE SEEN PARTIES WHERE OUR IMMIGRANT FAMILIES HAVE PEOPLE COME OVER. THEY'RE BRINGING CORONAS OR WHATEVER BEER AND THEY'RE ABLE TO HAVE THESE PARTIES. UM, BUT I KNOW THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SELLING OF LIQUOR, BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE CLEAR LANGUAGE AROUND WHAT'S CONSIDERED TO BE SOLD OR NOT. AND THEN WHEN WE USE THE COUNCILWOMAN SPACE THERE IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT, BUT THERE ARE IN OUR CONTRACT. WE WOULD HAVE THAT OPTION TO SAY IF WE CHOOSE TO HAVE A LICENSED ALCOHOL SELLER, THEN THAT WOULD BE IN THERE. BUT THEN IS ALL IS IT ALSO AN INSURANCE REQUIREMENT? I JUST THINK THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE EDUCATION BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DOING THESE WHAT COULD BE CALLED POP UP PARTIES WITHOUT KNOWING HALF OF THIS INFORMATION, SO, I, I JUST WANNA SEE THAT I IS THERE A COMMITMENT TO GET THIS OUT TO ALL THE COMMUNITIES AND ALL OVER. DISTRICT ALL OVER THE COUNTY AND TO MAKE SURE WE'RE BEING EQUITABLE AND DO YOU GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY? DO YOU GIVE THEM A WARNING? THE FIRST TIME AND LIKE I JUST WANTED TO HEAR ABOUT THAT PART OF THE PROCESS.

IS IT SHUT DOWN IMMEDIATELY, OR DO YOU GIVE THEM A WARNING? BECAUSE I THINK SOME PEOPLE IT'S A ONE OFF, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT BUSINESS YOU DEALT WITH. THAT WAS MULTIPLE INSTANCES. IT WAS MULTIPLE COUNCILWOMAN, AND I WOULD SAY THERE'S A GENTLEMAN BEHIND ME. HIS NAME IS CHRIS ROBINSON. IF YOU DON'T MIND, THE STAND UP. CHRIS IS THE NEW DIRECTOR OF ABC LICENSING. AND CHRIS IS OUR DIRECTOR. HE'S GONNA MAKE SURE OUTREACH TAKES PLACE AS AS NEEDED IN ONE OF THE THINGS A TASK CHRIS ROBINSON WITH IS THAT AND HE HE TASKED ME, PROBABLY, BUT HE'S GONNA MAKE SURE THERE'S A NEWSLETTER THAT COMES OUT FROM ABC THAT WE CAN GET OUT. WE'VE DEVELOPED A FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS FLYER. AND WE ACTUALLY ARE STARTING. WE'RE GONNA GO AROUND

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QUESTION TWO AND THIS IS NOT FOR YOU, BUT IT IS FOR YOU. I DON'T THINK YOU CAN OPEN AND SELL FOOD TO THE PUBLIC, TOO, AS AS AN ESTABLISHMENT. WITHOUT HAVING THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT OR HAVING A PERMIT THROUGH THEM. SO WILL THERE BE CO ORDINATION WITH THEM? AND IN THE EVENT THAT BOTH THOSE THINGS ARE HAPPENING? SO TO ANSWER YOUR SECOND QUESTION FIRST. YES, SIR. THE COLLABORATION WITH HEALTH HAS ALREADY TAKEN PLACE. WE DO EVERYTHING FROM FOOD TRUCKS TO ANY TIME. THERE'S AN ESTABLISHMENT SELLING. FOOD AND ESSENTIALLY, WE COMMUNICATED EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. SO WHEN WE WENT TO CIRCUIT COURT TO INITIATE THE INJUNCTIVE RELIEF HEALTH DEPARTMENT WAS ALSO THERE TO TESTIFY IN THE HEARING. WHERE THE JUDGE DID GRANT US THE INJUNCTION. BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S A I KNOW THAT'S A BIG PART, TOO, NOT JUST ALCOHOL, BUT FOOD THAT IS, UH, TAME AND SPOILED OR COULD BE CAN LEAD TO REALLY SEVERE HEALTH ISSUES, SO I KNOW THEY'VE DEFINITELY WOULD WANT TO BE INVOLVED, AND WE WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE ANYBODY'S OUT THERE SELLING FOOD REGARDLESS, WHERE TO THE PUBLIC IS DOING IT. UH, LEGALLY AND WITH THE RIGHT CREDENTIALS AND PERMITS, I COMPLETELY AGREE. AND THEN THE FIRST QUESTION IS I BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY DID WANT TO HAVE A PARTY, AND THEY DO NEED A TEMPORARY LIQUOR LICENSE, I THINK MAYBE THAT'S WHAT SOME OF THE QUESTIONS ARE LAYING OUT THAT PROCESS. WHAT'S THE FEE? HOW LONG DOES AND THEN HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE? BECAUSE I KNOW I GET COMPLAINTS AND NOTHING AGAINST YOU GUYS. BRAD JUST REGULAR ESTABLISHMENTS THAT ARE OPENING AND TRYING TO GET A LIQUOR LICENSE AND THEIR TWO OR 34 WEEKS INTO THE RESTAURANT WITHOUT STILL HAVING THE LIQUOR LICENSE, AND I KNOW IT'S TWO PROMPTS. I KNOW IT'S A STATE AND I KNOW IT'S A LOCAL, BUT I JUST MAYBE THREAT PEOPLE THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING AND HAVE AN EVENT, YOU KNOW, PLANNED FOR IT AND GIVE THEM SOME TIME AND GIVE A REASONABLE TIME WHAT IT WOULD BE. SO THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF MY FIRST QUESTION. THANK YOU. CAN I ANSWER YOUR FIRST QUESTION? COUNCILMAN IT TAKES IN IN A PERFECT WORLD WHERE EVERYTHING IS READY, AND ALL THE PAPERWORK IS DUE FIVE DAYS TO GET FRANKFURT TO EVEN CONSIDER AND METRO. WE CAN USUALLY DO WITHIN THAT FIVE DAY TIME FRAME. AND THE COST IS I MEAN, I JUST GUESS, DEPENDING ON WHO YOU'RE TALKING TO IS RELATIVELY MINIMAL. UH, I HAD A LADY WHO WAS A CPA AND I TOLD HER THE COST. IF YOU'RE A NONPROFIT VERSUS UM A CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION PAYS A DIFFERENT RATE. SO IT WAS AROUND. I THINK FOR THE METRO LICENSE $266, AND IT'S SET BY STATE LICENSE OR STATE LAW. WE DON'T WE DON'T SET THAT AND WE DON'T UM, DECIDE WHAT THAT IS. IT'S A STATE REGULATED FEE. AND UH, YOU YOU COULD HEAR? SHE DIDN'T SHE WAS NOT PLEASED WITH THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT BECAUSE SHE'D ALREADY PAID THE STATE. AND BUT THERE'S ALSO A REMEDY. IF YOU WANNA HAVE ALCOHOL, YOU CAN HAVE A CATERER.

COME ON SCENE. AND A LICENSED CATERER. AS LONG AS THEY BRING FOOD. THEY CAN ALSO BRING ALCOHOL. IT'S NOT JUST A CAN'T JUST BRING ALCOHOL DO YOU HAVE TO? YOU HAVE TO BRING FOOD WITH AND THAT SEEMS TO BE THE PREFERRED METHOD. BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT TAKES TO GET, UH, A SPECIAL TEMPORARY LICENSE, BUT BOTH OF THOSE ARE OPTIONS. AND AS LONG AS YOU'RE NOT WAITING UNTIL FRIDAY BEFORE YOUR EVENT. YOU SHOULD BE IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE. MADAM CHAIR. I THINK THE BENEFIT OF HAVING A LICENSED CATERER. BACK. I THINK, UH, COUNCIL AND PARISH RIGHTS QUESTION. TAKE CARE OF INSURANCE TYPICALLY, AND THAT'S WHAT SO YOU'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE. LIKELY IF SOMEBODY UH OVER SERVE THEMSELVES AND GOES OUT AND CAUSES SOME DAMAGE TO THE CATERERS, PROBABLY GOING TO WHO SOLD THE ALCOHOL AND UM, GAVE THE ALCOHOL TO FOLKS IS LIKELY GONNA BE ON THE HOOK OR THEIR INSURANCES FOR THAT, SO THAT'S THE OTHER BENEFIT OF HAVING A LICENSED CATERER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. AND I WOULD SAY THAT I'VE USED THE MILLWOOD SEVERAL TIMES, UH, FOR ANOTHER EXAMPLE. AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE A POLICY. UM AND NOT ONLY JUST THAT I WILL BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS, UM AND I TRUST THAT, UH, BRAD, YOU'VE BEEN A AWESOME

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THANK YOU. OF THE DIFFERENT YOU'RE ON THE ROAD. YES, YES. FOR STURT BENSON. YES. PEARS, RIGHT? ONE MOMENT. COMMITTEE MEMBER APPEARS RIGHT. YES. COMMITTEE MEMBER BLACK OR BOTH HELD YES. CAN REMEMBER BENSON. YES. VICE CHAIRS. UH, CHAIR. YOU HAVE SEVEN YES VOTES. I HAD A.

CLERK. PLEASE READ ITEM TWO INTO THE RECORD, PLEASE. A RESOLUTION PURSUANT TO THE CAPITAL AND

[3. R-010-24     A RESOLUTION PURSUANT TO THE CAPITAL AND OPERATING BUDGET ORDINANCES APPROVING THE APPROPRIATION TO FUND THE FOLLOWING NONCOMPETITIVELY NEGOTIATED SOLE SOURCE CONTRACT FOR FIRE CONCERNING STRUCTURAL COLLAPSE RESCUE TRAINING (SPEC RESCUE INTERNATIONAL - $78,000.00). Action Required By: August 2024 Sponsors: Tammy Hawkins (D-1) ]

RESCUE TRAINING SPEC RESCUE INTERNATIONAL $78,000 SPREAD IN FULL MOTION. SECOND. THE ITEM HAS BEEN PROPERLY MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER UH VICE PRESIDENT DAN SAMS AND SECOND BACK COUNCILWOMAN TAMMY HAWKINS. THE ITEM IS BEFORE US. I BELIEVE A MAJOR JONATHAN JONES IS ATTENDING VIRTUALLY TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM. OH, YOU'RE OUT. OK UH YES. AM I ON HERE? YEAH, CHIEF BRIAN O'NEILL, UH, HERE TO DISCUSS THIS. UH, SO WHAT? THIS IS, UH, THIS WAS APPROVED IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET. UH, AND THE REASON THAT IT HAD TO BE A SOLE SOURCE CONTRACT IS THIS IS REALLY THE ONLY ORGANIZATION THAT CAN TEACH THIS TYPE OF, UH, TRAINING. WHAT THE TRAINING SPECIFICALLY IS FOR STRUCTURAL COLLAPSE. UH, SO IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE LARGER INCIDENTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN RECENT YEARS, LIKE THE TORNADOES THAT CAME THROUGH MAYFIELD OR THE, UH, MINE DISASTER THAT WAS OUT IN EASTERN KENTUCKY, UH, BOTH OF WHICH, UH, WE SENT FIREFIGHTERS, STRUCTURAL COLLAPSE TECHNICIANS TO GO AND ASSIST. UH, RIGHT NOW. FOR THE LOUISVILLE FIRE DEPARTMENT. THE AVERAGE TENURE OF A MEMBER THAT IS CERTIFIED AS A STRUCTURAL COLLAPSE.

TECHNICIAN IS 20 YEARS, SO IN OTHER WORDS, PRETTY MUCH ALL OF OUR PEOPLE ARE ELIGIBLE TO RETIRE THAT HAVE THIS SPECIFIC TYPE OF TRAINING. UH, WE'RE BRINGING THIS IN. SO WE'RE BRINGING THEM TO US, UH, THEY'RE BRINGING ALL THE EQUIPMENT, THE PROPS, ET CETERA. UH, THEY'LL TEACH OUR PEOPLE BUT THEY'LL ALSO DO SOMETHING CALLED TRAIN THE TRAINER SO THAT, UH, ONCE THEY LEAVE, WE WILL HAVE INSTRUCTORS AS WELL SO THAT WE CAN TURN AROUND AND, UH, BRING UP A NEW CROP OF MEMBERS WITHIN THE LOUISVILLE FIRE DEPARTMENT. MM. OK, UM. WHY IS THIS NONCOMPETITIVE? UM SO SOURCED SO IT THE REASON IS BECAUSE THERE'S REALLY ONLY ONE ORGANIZATION THAT DOES THIS TRAINING. IT HAS TO BE FEMALE AUTHORIZED AND SPEC RESCUE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH THE ONLY GAME IN TOWN FOR THAT. OK UM SO IT LOOKS LIKE THAT THE CONTRACT IS DATED JANUARY THE 2ND 2024 THROUGH JANUARY THE 2ND 2025 OK, IT'S MARCH. UM SO WHY IS IT NOW? COMING BEFORE? COMMITTEE UH, WE'VE WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET IT FOR QUITE A WHILE. WE'RE JUST HAPPY THAT IT'S FINALLY CALLED UP. UH, WE DO ALREADY HAVE. WE'RE ON THE SCHEDULE. THIS SHOULD BE COMING. THEY'LL BE COMING AT KIND OF THE END OF MAY EARLY JUNE, UH, TO GET STARTED ON THIS AND IT'S GONNA TAKE, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, IT'S GONNA BE A BIT OF PROCESS.

THEY'RE GONNA TRAIN OUR PEOPLE THAT'LL TAKE SEVERAL WEEKS. UH AND THEN WE'LL BE TURNING AROUND AND TRAINING. UH MORE OF OUR OWN PEOPLE. IS ANY OTHER SPEAKERS. I WOULD LIKE TO YOU. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR OF COMMITTEE MEMBERS. SHAMIKA PERZ, RIGHT? THANK YOU. I JUST WANNA SAY THIS IS GOOD.

I'M WORRIED ABOUT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND ANY MAJOR DISASTER AND AFTER THE HEROIC EFFORTS OF WHAT HAPPENED WHEN THE SEMI WAS GOING OVER THE BRIDGE, I JUST THINK WE NEED MORE PEOPLE TRAINED AND THANK YOU FOR SHARING THE CONTEXT ABOUT THE 10 YEAR AND WHAT THIS MEANS. I THINK THIS IS OVERDUE. AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU ALL ARE ARE MAKING THIS A PRIORITY. I JUST WANNA THANK YOU. THIS IS THE KIND OF THINGS THAT I JOIN IN THIS PUBLIC. I WANTED TO BE

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[4. R-018-24     A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO ACCEPT $30,000 OF FUNDING FROM THE MOTOR CARRIER SAFETY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM (“MCSAP”) THROUGH THE INTERSTATE EMPHASIS GRANT PROGRAM TO BE ADMINISTERED BY THE LOUISVILLE METRO POLICE DEPARTMENT. Action Required By: August 2024 Sponsors: Tammy Hawkins (D-1) ]

UH, THAT ADDS ADDITIONAL. FOR COMMERCIAL VEHICLE SAFETY INSPECTORS. CURRENTLY WE ONLY HAVE 12 AND WE'RE HOPING TO THAT THAT OPPORTUNITY TO GROW THAT NUMBER OF FOLKS, UH, BUT IT IS DESIGNED FOR ENFORCEMENT ON UH, THE FOLLOWING TOO CLOSE, UH, AND EXTREMELY HIGH SPEEDS INVOLVING COMMERCIAL VEHICLES IN THOSE VEHICLES THAT ARE DRIVING IN AND AROUND THOSE COMMERCIAL VEHICLES ON THE INTERSTATE SYSTEM. SPECIFICALLY WITH THIS, UH, PROGRAM. IT UH, IDENTIFIED TWO AREAS IN JEFFERSON COUNTY. THAT, UH, THAT THAT THAT OUR FUNDING IS USED FOR WHICH IS ON 64 FROM THE 12 MILE MARKER HEADING EAST. OF COURSE, WE WOULD STOP AT THE COUNTY LINE AT SHELBY COUNTY AND THEN ALSO ON I 65 AT THE 130 MILE MARKER, WHICH IS BASICALLY THE WATERSON EXPRESSWAY HEADING SOUTH TO THE BULLOCK COUNTY LINE. THAT IS THE AREA AND THE, UH THE GOAL OF THIS IS TO REDUCE THE OVERALL CRASHES TO INCLUDE FATAL AND INJURY CRASHES INVOLVING COMMERCIAL VEHICLES BY 1% ALTHOUGH THAT'S A VERY, UH, SMALL GOAL. UH, WE'RE HOPING THAT, UH, WITH THAT ADDITIONAL HOURS THAT WE CAN INCREASE THAT BUT MUCH MORE THAN 1% BECAUSE OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE NO CRASHES.

I'LL MAKE A COMMENT IF I'M ABLE TO MADAM CHAIR. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. YOU CAN GO AHEAD. AGAIN I JUST WANNA, UH, THANK YOU FOR THIS. THIS IS THE KIND OF WORK WE SHOULD BE DOING TOGETHER AND WE LOST AN OFFICER THAT WAY. UM THESE COMMERCIAL INCIDENTS ARE ARE VERY IMPORTANT AND WE ARE A BIG, UH, CENTRALLY LOCATED DRIVE-THROUGH STATE, SO I THINK THAT THESE INITIATIVES SHOULD BENEFIT EVERYONE. UH, I HAD TWO DAUGHTERS THAT HAD THEIR CARS TOTALED WHEN PEOPLE RANDOM OFF THE ROAD IT IS, UM IT IS VERY SCARY. SO I JUST WANNA TELL YOU THANK YOU. I UM I THINK THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE AND I WANTED I WOULD LOVE AN UPDATE TO SEE HOW THIS IS GOING. UM IN ANOTHER, YOU KNOW TIME, MAYBE IN THE NEXT YEAR. YES, MA'AM. ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY, UM, COMMITTEE MEMBER OF DR BARBARA SHANKLIN. AND HEARING NONE. THIS IS THE RESOLUTION CONVOY A VOICE VOTE ALL IN FAVOR. SAY I ANY OPPOSED THE RESOLUTION PASSED, THEN WILL BE MOVED TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. CLARK READ ITEM FOUR INTO THE

[5. O-022-24     ORDINANCE AMENDING THE LOUISVILLE/JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT CODE OF ORDINANCES (“LMCO”) CHAPTER 113 REGULATING ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE CONTROL. Action Required By: August 2024 Sponsors: Rick Blackwell (D-12) ]

I STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD , PLEASE. AND YOU CAN BEGIN. MADAM CHAIR. CAN I SPEAK TO JUST JUST BRIEFLY TO THIS ONE? BECAUSE WE NEED TO, UM THERE IS A PROPOSED AMENDMENT THAT'S IN YOUR SYSTEM NOW. SO IF YOU LOOK ON THE ATTACHMENTS, THE TOP ONE IS THE PROPOSED COMMITTEE SUBSTITUTION, WHICH ADDS, UH ADDS ON AMENDMENT. I GET IT. THAT CLARIFIES WHAT A AN EMERGENCY IS SO THERE'S FIVE THINGS THAT ARE LISTED AS EMERGENCY ITEMS. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SPONSOR ON THIS RIGHT. I AM AND I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THIS THAT THIS AS A COMMITTEE

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WE WANNA JUST MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE NOT YOU JUST CAN'T SAY IT'S UNSAFE AND SHUT US DOWN.

AND I AGREED WITH THAT. I SAID I. I UNDERSTAND THAT CONCERN. UM TOOK IT TO COUNCILMAN BLACKWELL.

THEY COLLABORATED AND ALL OF US UM UNUSUALLY AGREED WHERE YOU KNOW THERE'S NOT VERY MANY TIMES IN MY EXPERIENCE WHERE GOVERNMENT INDUSTRY CAN COME TOGETHER AND LIKE NOBODY. WANT TO SEE A BAD ACTOR IN BUSINESS AND NOT ALL SITUATIONS RESULT OR OR THE RESULT OF A BAD ACTOR.

SOMETIMES SITUATIONS HAPPEN. AND WHAT I WAS SAYING IN THESE SCENARIOS IS WHEN THERE'S A SHOOTING THAT TAKES PLACE AT A PLACE THAT SELLS ALCOHOL INDOORS . UH, MY INTENTION IS TO HAVE A COOLING OFF PERIOD SO WE CAN INVESTIGATE TO FIND OUT WHAT'S HAPPENING. AND THEY MIGHT. YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA GIVE THEM A HEARING WITHIN THREE BUSINESS DAYS. AFTER IT GOES DOWN SO WE CAN FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENED THAT YOU KNOW WE CAN PULL SURVEILLANCE VIDEOS. WE CAN CHECK WITH ALL THE WITNESSES, AND WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT BY OPENING RIGHT BACK UP. TOMORROW.

THAT THERE'S NOT SOME FORM OF, UH RETRIBUTION. IT'S NOT A WHOLE OTHER SCENARIO THAT TAKES PLACE IN AND THIS WILL ALLOW US IN THE EVENT OF THERE'S A THREAT TO PUBLIC SAFETY. SOMETHING'S TERRIBLY UNSAFE. WE CAN RESPOND, SUSPEND THE LICENSE AND THEN MOVE IT FORWARD. AND IT IS APPEALABLE UNDER THE WAY WE'VE WRITTEN THIS SO THAT'S THE FINAL STOP WITH ABC IS FRANKFURT. AND THEN THEN WE GO TO CIRCUIT COURT AFTER THAT. I THINK AS WRITTEN, IT'S, UH IT'S NECESSARY FOR US. SO HOW LONG WOULD THAT, UM, APPEAL PROCESS? BE UH, FOR THE BUSINESS OWNERS. UM AND IS IT UH, A PROCESS? UH, THAT'S CONSISTENT, OR IS IT EACH CASE IS DIFFERENT, DEPENDING ON YOU KNOW THE SEVERITY OF ONE. I GIVE YOU ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF BUSINESS OWNER THAT'S BEEN IN BUSINESS 30 YEARS, JIM PORTERS ONE NIGHT A GUY COMES IN, SHOOTS THE CLUB UP. AND THEN, BOOM. UM SOMEBODY FROM OFF THE STREET JEOPARDIZES SOMEBODY'S BUSINESS FOR 30 YEARS. SO I WOULD SAY EVERY SCENARIO IS DIFFERENT MAN THAN WHAT I SEE. AND WHAT WE LOOK AT IS IF THERE IS LIABILITY ON BEHALF OF THE OWNER, BECAUSE THERE'S SOME SCENARIOS THAT THERE'S NOT ANYTHING ANYBODY COULD DO TO PREPARE AND PROTECT FROM THAT. AND WE REALLY TAKE ALL OF THAT INTO ACCOUNT. BUT THERE THERE WOULD BE A SMALL COOLING OFF PERIOD WHERE OBVIOUSLY, IF A BUSINESS, FOR EXAMPLE, WERE THE VICTIM OF A ROBBERY, FOR EXAMPLE, AND THERE WAS EXCHANGE OF GUNFIRE, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE A CANDIDATE WHERE, YOU KNOW, NOT EVERY TIME SOMETHING HAPPENS. ARE WE GONNA INVOKE THE RIGHT TO SUSPEND BUT IN THE IN THE SITUATIONS LIKE WE'VE, UH ALL TOO OFTEN BEEN HEARING ABOUT HERE LATELY. AND I'M NOT GOING TO NAME ANY INSTANCES BECAUSE OF SOME ONGOING INVESTIGATIONS, BUT I WILL SAY. THIS IS FRESH ON EVERYBODY'S MIND. AND WHAT WHAT HAPPENS? WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND QUICKLY TO THESE SITUATIONS, AND THAT IS AN EXAMPLE OF SOMEBODY COMING OFF THE STREET. THERE'S NOT ANYTHING ANYBODY COULD DO TO PROTECT FROM THAT OTHER THAN YOU KNOW, HAVING A WALL OF OFFICERS AND METAL DETECTORS, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THEY'RE STILL GOING. EVIL IS HARD TO STOP, BUT ALCOHOL AND UM , WEAPONS DON'T PLAY NICE TOGETHER, AND IT'S ALWAYS A BAD SCENARIO. I'VE NEVER SEEN A GOOD TIME WHEN PEOPLE ARE DRINKING AND BRING ALLOWED TO BRING GUNS INTO AN ESTABLISHMENT. SO THIS ALSO INCLUDES, UH WHERE THERE'S CONVENIENCE STORES THAT SELL LIQUOR. I KNOW THERE WAS A

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WELL YOU KNOW, UM, WE CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS SO WE CAN'T WANT IT TO BE SAFE ON ONE END. IN THE END. I PUT PARAMETERS AROUND YOU ON ANOTHER ONE. SO I APPRECIATE YOU, UM, TRYING TO GO THE EXTRA MILE TO DO THIS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, CAN I MAKE A COMMENT? MADAM CHAIR? HOLD ON ONE. GO AHEAD. UM I JUST MY QUESTIONS. UH, MY COMMENT IS SIMILAR TO MADAM CHAIRS. THE PEOPLE IN OUR DISTRICTS ARE YOUNG, FLEDGLING BUSINESS OWNERS WHO ARE TRYING TO GET INTO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. NOT ALL ALREADY, YOU KNOW, FULLY ESTABLISHED, SO THEY'RE STILL LEARNING ALONG THE WAY. I'VE ALSO BEEN WITH FAMILIES WHO'VE LOST FAMILY MEMBERS IN CLUBS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AGAIN. I WANNA RAISE THE ISSUE OF EQUITY IF YOU WERE AT THE NOWHERE SOMEWHERE ANYWHERE BAR. IT NEEDS TO BE TREATED THE SAME WAY IF THERE IS A DEATH OR INCIDENT IN THOSE PLACES, AND NOT JUST A QUICK ACTION TO SHUT PEOPLE DOWN IN DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES. I THINK THAT HAS BEEN THE CONCERN OF THESE UP AND COMING BUSINESS OWNERS AS THEY TRY TO NAVIGATE IT, LIKE A MADAM CHAIR HAS SAID, AND LIKE YOU HAVE YOU HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED, ALL OF THEM CANNOT AFFORD OFF DUTY LNPD OFFICERS, BUT THERE ARE OTHER TRAINED SMALL BUSINESS SECURITY FIRMS THAT IF YOU HAVE SOME TYPE OF VETTING PROCESS IT OPEN TO THEM AS ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE SOURCE TO HAVE THAT I MEAN, THE WHOLE THING ABOUT SECURITY AND I USED TO BE A SECURITY OFFICER WITH A PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR'S LICENSE IS DETERRENT, AND WE KNOW THAT, BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT IN ANY GIVEN SET ANY GIVEN MOMENT, SOMEONE CAN COME IN AND DO WHATEVER THEY DO. SO WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER YOU DO IS EQUITABLE, AND THEN THOSE FAMILIES HAVE SAID A LOT OF TIMES WITH ONE THAT INVOLVES A, UH A FAMOUS ENTERTAINER IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WITH HIS, UH, PERSON THAT WAS WITH HIM, A LOT OF THE TIMES THE CLUB OWNERS OR THE SECURITY AREN'T CHECKING THEM OR OR SENDING THEM THROUGH METAL DETECTORS THE WAY THAT THEY DO REGULAR PATRONS, SO I

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INCLUDE THAT THEY SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS CHECKED. EVERYBODY IS SEARCHED. NO MATTER IF THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, VERY FAMOUS OR NOT, IT'S IMPORTANT TO CHECK THEIR WHOLE ENTOURAGE BECAUSE THAT IS ALSO A PROBLEM AND PEOPLE HAVE ONGOING BEEFS, AND THEN THEY'RE ABLE TO COME IN WITH WEAPONS AND OTHER PEOPLE DON'T THEN YOU HAVE A LOT OF THE TRAGEDIES WE'VE SEEN. SO I I'M I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, JUST SOME TYPE OF FOLLOW UP FROM YOU WITHIN ANOTHER YEAR OR SO JUST TO SEE HOW THIS IS GOING, HOW IT'S BEEN IMPLEMENTED. IF YOU'VE HAD TO UM, YOU KNOW, CLOSE DOWN BUSINESSES. I KNOW THAT THERE'S A REPORT THAT WE CAN ACCESS AND SO FORGIVE ME FOR BEING NEW, BUT I WOULD. I WOULD LOVE TO KEEP UP WITH THIS AND TRACK THAT I THE LAST PART. I SAY THE REASON WHY I SAY THIS IS BECAUSE THERE WAS A YOUNG BOY NOT TOO LONG AGO ALLEGEDLY BROUGHT HAD FIVE ASSAULT RIFLE RIFLES AND ATTENDED ATON HIGH SCHOOL WAS NEVER MENTIONED. YOU DON'T SEE IT IN THE NEWS, BUT IF SOMETHING HAPPENS IN THE WEST OR THE SOUTH END OR NEWBURGH, YOU'LL HEAR THAT AND SO BECAUSE OF THAT, IF THEY HAVE, UH, INFLUENTIAL PARENTS AND STUFF. A LOT OF THINGS GET SWEPT UNDER THE RUG, SO WE GOTTA ALSO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GIVEN THAT EQUITY AND THAT BALANCED APPROACH TO ALL THE BUSINESS OWNERS AND ALL THE OPPORTUNITIES AND I TRUST YOU TO DO THAT. I HAVE WE'VE MET AND I KNOW THAT YOUR INTENTIONS ARE GOOD. BUT I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T RAISE THIS BECAUSE MANY BUSINESS OWNERS WILL CONTACT MYSELF COUNSEL WOMAN, HAWKINS AND, UH AND THEY WOULD TALK TO US ABOUT THESE ISSUES, AND WE WANNA BE ABLE TO GET HIM A STRAIGHT UP ANSWER AND THANK YOU FOR GIVING US EXTRA CONTEXT. THANK YOU. WE UTILIZE THE EQUITY TOOL KIT. UM AND EVERY DECISION WE MAKE AN ATTEMPT TO MAKE EVERY DECISION THROUGH THAT LENS. AND IN AN ENFORCEMENT CAPACITY, LIKE I SAID, ON ITEM NUMBER ONE AS LONG AS I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THIS DEPARTMENT, WE WILL DO EVERYTHING. TO TREAT EVERYBODY FROM ONE SIDE OF THE COUNTY TO THE OTHER THE SAME AND FAIRLY, YOU KNOW, SO THAT IS, UM ANYBODY THAT KNOWS ME KNOWS THAT KNOWS THAT'S HOW I WORK. THANK YOU. I SEE DOCTOR FINK. OK, UM WE ARE COUNCILMAN BLACKWELL. MEAN? OK I'M SORRY. I'VE ALREADY SPOKEN TO YET OTHERS. COMMITTEE MEMBER. SHANKLIN. REMEMBER ME IN THE END? UH, THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. UH, MY TIME. UH, MY COMMENT TO YOU, BRAD. BECAUSE THEY JUST THEY'LL JUST RECENTLY WE HAD A SHOOTING IN A LIQUOR STORE. OF COURSE, NOBODY GOT HURT. THEY SHOT UP THE, UM THIS PLACE AND THAT NOW AS OF LAST WEEK, WE GET ANOTHER LIQUID STORE RIGHT DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET TUNNEL. WHAT ABOUT THAT? RIGHT BUT REALLY RIGHT. IT'S A LITTLE SMALL STREET IN BETWEEN THEM. NOW THIS ONE LIQUOR STORE HAS HAD PROBLEMS FOR I KNOW 50 YEARS WHEN I'VE BEEN WHEN I WAS OUT OUT THERE IN IN GE THE EXACT PROBLEM, NOTHING BUT PROBLEMS. AND NOW THEY'RE STILL SITTING THERE AND THEN, AS OF LAST WEEK, THEY HAD ANOTHER LICENSE FOR THE ONE RIGHT DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME. YES, MA'AM. I DID RECEIVE YOUR LETTER. OH, AND PROTEST TO THAT, AND THERE'S A LOT OF TIMES. AND YOU KNOW, I. I LOOK YOU STRAIGHT IN THE FACE AND I'LL TELL YOU LIKE IT IS THERE'S SOMETIMES I DON'T HAVE ANY CHOICE. BUT I HAVE TO ISSUE A LICENSE AND I'M LOOKING AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON IN THAT LOCATION. AND IF THERE'S ANY OPPORTUNITY TO SAY NO BECAUSE OF THE OVER SATURATION OF THE AREA AND NOT I'LL CALL YOU AND WE CAN TALK OFFLINE. BUT E EVERY DECISION KIND OF LIKE THE SUSPENSION DECISION HAS TO BE REVIEWED UNDER LAW, AND IF I DON'T GIVE IT DUE PROCESS. THEN IT'S SUBJECT TO A OVERTURN ME ON APPEAL. AND SO I CAN IF I DENY THEM WITHOUT ALL OF MY UM ISSUES IN ORDER. THEN I'M SUBJECT TO BE OVERTURNED AND THEY'RE GOING TO ISSUE THE LICENSE AND THE STATE WILL ORDER ME TO ISSUE THE LICENSE. WE HAVE, LIKE EIGHT. EIGHT PLACES STILL NOT LIQUOR STORES, BUT EIGHT PLACES YOU COULD BADLY GO IN LESS THAN TWO BLOCKS, I. I ABSOLUTELY KNOW I'VE I'VE BEEN RESEARCHING IT. THERE'S A TOOL ON THE ABC WEBSITE THAT WE CAN MEASURE HOW MANY ESTABLISHMENTS ARE WITHIN SO MUCH TIME FRAME. WE JUST PUT THAT UP RECENTLY. UH, IT'S VERY COMING VERY HANDY. ON THE FAMILY DOLLAR SITUATION, FOR EXAMPLE, WE DENIED WE WERE ABLE TO DENY ALL THOSE LICENSES. SO WITH THAT BEING, SAID, I, I DON'T WANNA COMMIT ON CAMERA THAT I'M ABLE TO DO ONE THING OR THE OTHER. IT'S GETTING A FULL SOLID REVIEW AND UH, I'M VERY THOROUGH AND I.

I PROMISE I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU AND I'LL I'LL TELL YOU THE GOOD, BAD OR INDIFFERENT WHETHER IF I HAVE TO ISSUE IT, YOU'LL KNOW WHY. RIGHT. I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN WORKING WITH ME FOR YEARS ON THAT. I THINK YOU WROTE THE BOOK ON HOW TO PROTEST THEM. YEAH. BUT ANYWAY, JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW THE COMMUNITIES LOOKING AT THIS NEW ONE THAT'S COMING IN RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DOCTOR SHANKLIN, WE'VE BEEN

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YOU HAVE EIGHT. YES, VOTES. ALL RIGHT. THE AMENDED ORDINANCE PASSES AND WILL BE MOVED OPEN.

THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER FIVE. OK? SPONSORSHIP HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN

[6. R-019-24     A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO ACCEPT $54,879 OF FUNDING FROM THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE THROUGH THE JOINT LAW ENFORCEMENT OPERATIONS (“JLEO”) GRANT PROGRAM TO BE ADMINISTERED BY THE LOUISVILLE METRO POLICE DEPARTMENT. 3/1/24  SPONSORSHIP WITHDRAWN Sponsors: WITHDRAWN ]

[1. ID 24-0117     SUBURBAN FIRE AND EMS UPDATES – James Peden, Jefferson County Fire Chiefs Association.]

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THERE'S SEVEN OF US. NOW BUT YEARS AGO THERE USED TO BE 21 OF US, UH, BACK WHEN THESE FIRE DISTRICTS ACTUALLY WERE CREATED, UH, WE ACTUALLY THE METRO LOUISVILLE 397 SQUARE MILES IN THE ATTA LITTLE METRO AREA AND OUT OF THAT 397 335 SQUARE MILES OR COVERED BY THE SUBURBAN FIRE DISTRICTS OUT OF THAT 397 YOU HAVE 62 SQUARE MILES THAT'S COVERED BY THE URBAN SERVICES DISTRICT, WHICH IS THE LOUIS DIVISION OF FIRE AS WELL AS SHAY FIRE DEPARTMENT. BUT YOU CAN SEE THE MAJORITY OF THAT AREA IS COVERED BY THE 77 FIRE DISTRICTS. WHICH IS BASICALLY THE OUTSIDE OF 264 TO THE ACTUAL COUNTY LINES FROM ONE END OF THE RIVER TO THE OTHER END OF THE RIVER. WE RUN A S AND BLS AND WHICH IS, UH, SIX OF THE SEVEN FIRE DISTRICTS HAVE THEIR OWN EMS SERVICES. THESE ARE THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ACTUALLY HAVE MERGED. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, ANCHORAGE, MIDDLETOWN USED TO BE FIVE DEPARTMENTS. HARRI CREEK, ANCHORAGE, EASTWOOD, MIDDLETOWN WORTH ALL NOW ARE PART OF ANCHORAGE, MIDDLETOWN. FIRE EMS. AS YOU SEE, ALL THOSE DEPARTMENTS HAVE BECOME MERGED DEPARTMENTS INTO ONE DEPARTMENT, UH, TO MAKE UP THE SEVEN DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO JEFFERSON TOWN WITH MCMAHON OF JE, UH, JOW FIRE DEPARTMENT MERGED RECENTLY. AS WELL AS ST MATTHEW'S, UH, HAS MERGED WITH LYNDON TO MAKE THE DEPARTMENT. UH YOU SEE PLEASURES PARK HAS MADE UP A LARGE LARGE AREA OF THE DIXIE HIGHWAY AREA FROM DIXIE SUBURBAN TO SOUTH DIXIE, LATE DREAM AND ET CETERA TO MERGE INTO ONE DEPARTMENT.

ANCHORAGE MIDDLETOWN IS PROBABLY BEING THE ONE OF THE LARGEST DEPARTMENTS, UH, IN THE COUNTY COVERING FROM THE OHIO RIVER ALL THE WAY TO I 64 AND SO ON. SO THESE DEPARTMENTS ARE NO LONGER THE SAME DEPARTMENTS THAT YOU MAY REMEMBER AS A KID OR EVEN I REMEMBER US JOINING THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. IT'S MUCH DIFFERENT. WE ARE CAREER DEPARTMENTS. WE'RE RUNNING, UH, EVERY DAY NONSTOP 365 DAYS A YEAR, UH, WITH A COMPLETE CAREERS, UH, FIRE SERVICE THAT RUNS FAR AND EMS AND ALL THOSE OTHER SPECIAL DISCIPLINES I MENTIONED EAST TO CONTACT INFORMATION. THIS WILL ACTUALLY BE ALSO IN YOUR BOOKLET AS WELL. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE EMAIL US CALL US ON OUR CELL PHONES. WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS. MEET UP WITH YOU IN PERSON TO HELP ANYTHING THAT YOU MAY NEED, UH, IN YOUR PARTICULAR, UH, DISTRICTS AS WELL. UH, JAMES. PETER IS OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. HE'S A HE'S A GOOD CONTACT TO REACH OUT TO HIM. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, OR, UH, THE NEED TO GET A HOLD OF ANY ANY PARTICULAR PERSON OR IF YOU WANT TO FIND OUT WHICH FIRE DISTRICT YOU NEED TO TALK TO, UH, JAMES CAN HELP YOU WITH THAT OUR EXECUTIVE FIRE ADMINISTRATIVE IS REBECCA BARTLETT. SHE'S KIND OF OUR SECRETARY OF THE JEFFERSON COUNTY SUBURBAN FIRE SERVICE, FIRE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION, AND WE HAVE A SPECIAL TEAMS COORDINATOR ADAM JONES, WHO HELPS US WITH COORDINATING ALL OF OUR SPECIAL

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UM GENERAL ELECTRIC. WE COVER BLUEGRASS INDUSTRIAL PARK. WE HAD THE LOW RUBBER TOWN AREA UPSY BRANDS A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE COUNTY THAT WE SHOULD COVER MAJOR PORTIONS OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL AS BIG BUSINESSES, BIG EMPLOYERS OF EMPLOYEES IN JEFFERSON COUNTY ARE IN THE SUBURBAN AREAS OF OUR DISTRICT, INCLUDING PAPA JOHN'S HEADQUARTERS. THE FBI BUILDING.

THE BASICALLY THE, UH, SECRET SERVICES OFFICES ARE ALL IN THE SUBURBAN AREAS THAT ARE PROVIDING THAT WE ARE PROVIDING THAT PROTECTION EMS SERVICE, TOO. THE HELL THIS IS ACTUALLY A GREATER LOUISVILLE INC DATA. UH THE THREE OUT OF THE 335 SQUARE MILE SUBURBAN FIRE COVER THE HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY PROVIDES OVER 80 BILLION IN REVENUE TO THE CITY. 1300 MANUFACTURING COMPANIES IN AREAS OF AUTOMOBILE , FOOD, BEVERAGE, PLASTICS AND SO ON MORE THAN 125, FOOD AND BEVERAGE COMPANIES GLOBALLY EMPLOYED WITH OVER 15,000 EMPLOYEES AND INDIVIDUALS THAT ACCOUNT FOR 23 BILLION IN ANNUAL REVENUE. THOSE ARE AREAS OF THE SUBURBAN AREAS OF THE COUNTY THAT'S OUTSIDE THE 264 CORRIDOR OF THE DOWNTOWN LOUISVILLE. THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF THIS IS A HAZARDOUS P INCIDENT WE MADE UP ON I 64 AGAIN WORKING JOINTLY AMONGST OUR US WE PROVIDE THIS TYPE OF SERVICE IN THE JEFFERSON COUNTY TOTALING 100 AND 30,000 CALLS LAST YEAR ALONE. THESE ARE

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THESE ARE ALL YOUR DIFFERENT COUNCIL DISTRICTS, UH, IN THE DIFFERENT FIRE DISTRICTS THAT THEY ACTUALLY ABIDE BY AND SO YOU CAN SEE 21 OUT OF 26 COUNCIL DISTRICTS ARE IN THE SUBURBAN AREA COVERED BY A SUBURBAN FIRE DEPARTMENT. AND IN SUMMARY JUST WANTED TO REITERATE, THINK 750 FOREIGN EMS PERSONNEL IN THE SUBURBAN FIRE DEPARTMENTS. THOSE CAREER EMPLOYEES OPERATING 42 SUBURBAN FIRE STATIONS COVERING 335 SQUARE MILES OF METRO LOUISVILLE. WE PROVIDE FIRE EMS AND ALL THE OTHER SPECIAL DISCIPLINES. WE PROVIDE PROTECTION TO SOME OF THE CITY'S LARGEST INDUSTRIES AND POPULATION OF THE PEOPLE. REASON WHY WE WANT TO BE HERE. I'M I'M APPRECIATE THE FACT YOU ALL INVITED US TO ALLOW US TO COME AND TALK, BUT WE JUST WANT TO CONTINUE THIS PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WITH THE METRO COUNCIL AT WHOLE AND ALSO MAKE SURE WE KEEP THAT LINE OF COMMUNICATION UP AND THAT WE COULD TALK TO ONE. IN THAT WAY.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY CONCERNS, PLEASE REACH OUT TO US. WE'D BE HAPPY TO HELP IN ANYTHING THAT WE CAN, UH, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE ALLOW YOU TO COME. WE WANT YOU TO COME OUT AND VISIT OUR FIRE STATIONS, AND I WANNA OPEN UP AN INVITATION TO THE METRO COUNCIL.

UH, WE WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO COME OUT TO THE ACADEMY AND JUST SEE KIND OF AN IDEA OF WHAT WE DO. OR EVEN MAYBE, MAYBE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE IN SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO, WE'D LOVE FOR YOU TO TAKE PART IN THAT THAT WAY, YOU CAN REALLY SEE WHAT THE FAR EMS PERSONNEL DO EACH AND EVERY DAY AND THEY PUT THEIR LIFE ON THE LINE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. UM I I'D LIKE TO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT ANY ONE OF FIRE DISTRICTS OR US AS A WHOLE. BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE. I WANNA THANK YOU FOR COMING AND ALSO I WANT TO SAY THANKS FOR BEING PROACTIVE. THANK YOU. THAT'S GREAT. UM MADAM CHAIR. SURE. UM I JUST WANNA THANK YOU, UH, FOR BEING HERE. I APPRECIATE THIS PRESENTATION. I'VE HEARD NOTHING BUT POSITIVE THINGS ABOUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. NOTHING BUT POSITIVE SONGS. UH YOU DIDN'T MISS MUCH ABOUT, UH, RECRUITMENT . I WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT THAT. AND IN HONOR OF MY COUSIN WHO'S AND I HAVE MANY, UH, FAMILY THAT ARE POLICE OFFICERS, BUT MY ONE COUSIN IS A FIREMAN RICK SCRUGGS AND CINCINNATI AND HE WAS TELLING ME, UM, YOU KNOW THAT HE'S ALWAYS WORKING ON RECRUITMENT. SO I WANTED TO HEAR ARE YOU SHORT? UM I KNOW YOU HAVE THE 40 STATIONS. WHAT IS YOUR RECRUITMENT LIKE? AND I AND I JUST COMMEND WHAT YOU DO, I. I DEFINITELY WANNA BINDER. I'M IN NEW YORK. NOW PLEASE LEAVE ME A BINDER FOR DISTRICT THREE. AND THEN I WANT TO TAKE YOU UP ON THAT OFFER TO COME AND SEE YOUR YOUR ACADEMY, YOUR TRAINING ACADEMY. ABSOLUTELY UM, ABOUT RECRUITMENT. UM JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. JUST RECENTLY, JEFFERSON TOWN HAS BEEN TRYING TO RECRUIT. UH, WE GET READY TO START A DRILL SCHOOL IN APRIL AND WE GOT WE HAD 100 APPLICATIONS THAT WERE TAKEN. THAT WAS WE. WE THOUGHT THAT WAS VERY GOOD FOR APPROXIMATELY 12 TO 14 INDIVIDUALS THAT WE WILL HIRE. UH, WE DID SOME. WE DID THE JOB FAIRS. UH, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF THAT MOST OF OUR RECRUITMENT. I WOULD CUT I TALK FOR ALL THE FIRE DISTRICTS. WE DO A LOT OF RECRUITING ON SOCIAL MEDIA. UH AND THAT'S BEEN OUR BIGGEST. THAT'S BEEN OUR BIGGEST AVENUE OF TRYING TO GET THE WORD OUT. THAT WE WERE HIRING. UH, WE WERE ALWAYS AND I WOULD TALK FOR EVERYBODY. WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR EMS PERSONNEL. UH, BECAUSE IT IT JUST WOULD. THE TURNOVER RATE OF THAT IS PROBABLY MUCH HIGHER THAN IT IS ON THE FIRE SERVICE SIDE. AND SO WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR EMS PERSONNEL. REGARDLESS WE HAD NO TRAINING AT ALL OR ALREADY PREVIOUSLY TRAINED. WE WANT YOU TO COME AND ASK A QUESTIONS BECAUSE THERE IS SOMEONE IN JEFFERSON COUNTY AND WE TALK ABOUT SUBURBAN DEPARTMENTS. THERE'S SOME OF US ARE HIRING ALL THE TIME. SOMEONE IS LOOKING FOR A NEW ALL THE TIME. AND SO, UH, WE RUN OUR OWN DRILL SCHOOL AT JEFFERSON TOWN. I KNOW THE PLEASURES PARK DOES. I KNOW ANCHORS MIDDLETOWN DOES AND I KNOW A FEW OF THE OTHER ONES THAT HAVE COMBINED INTO DRILL SCHOOLS. I KNOW THE CITY. LOUIS DOES THEIR DRILL SCHOOL. I TELL YOU WHAT, THIS THIS IS THE IF YOU WANNA BE A FIREFIGHTER, THIS IS THE TIME TO BE A FIREFIGHTER AS WELL AS POLICE OFFICER. WE ALL KNOW THAT EVERYBODY IS TRYING TO RECRUIT INDIVIDUALS, AND IT'S TOUGH TO NOT ONLY JUST RECRUIT BUT ALSO RETAIN OUR EMPLOYEES. BUT UM, THIS IS THE TIME. IF YOU WANNA BE A FIREFIGHTER, THERE'S A JOB OPENING FOR YOU. SO WE TRY TO. WE TRY TO GET THE WORD OUT AS BEST WE CAN. UM AND MOST OF IT IS SOCIAL MEDIA. WE ACTUALLY WENT AROUND JEFFERSON TOWN. WE WENT TO ALL THE DIFFERENT GYMNASIUMS AND WORKOUT FACILITIES AND SO FORTH AND PUT PAMPHLETS OUT THE VEHICLES AND PUT POSTERS UP TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE TO RECRUIT. UH, TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE TO COME UP AND ACTUALLY APPLY. WE HAD OVER 100 AND WE WERE. WE WERE HAPPY WITH THE LIST THAT WE WERE ABLE TO CREATE. AND SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO OUR DRILL SCHOOL THAT WE'RE GOING TO START IN APRIL. THANK YOU AND PLEASE SHARE AND SHARE ON OUR IN OUR NEWSLETTERS. IF WE CAN SHARE A GRAPHIC OR SOMETHING THAT HELPS RECRUIT PEOPLE, WE WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT. ABSOLUTELY AND AGAIN. I LOOK FORWARD TO YOU ALL WOULD LIKE LOVE TO COME OUT TO OUR ACADEMY. SEE WHAT WE DO? UH WE CAN

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I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT Y'ALL ACTUALLY TALKED TO YOU KNOW, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SO ON.

WELL ABSOLUTELY. WE DO. THEY RELY ON US. WE RELY ON THEM, AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE WORK REALLY WELL TOGETHER. THANK YOU. UM NO, NO FURTHER COMMENTS. UM VICE CHAIR. UM, UM, JUST ONE COMMENT. I WANNA THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. I WANNA THANK YOUR FAMILIES. I WANT YOU TO KNOW THE METRO'S GOT YOUR BACK AND STAY SAFE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY THAT, UM, WHATEVER TOOLS THAT YOU NEED TO DO YOUR JOB. UH, WE WANNA ALSO BE A GREAT PARTNER WITH YOU ALL. UM, CHIEF, UH, MA WERE YOU AHEAD. I READ HEARD A LOT OF GREAT THINGS ABOUT YOU. ALL RIGHT, SO JUST KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK AND WE'RE HERE, UH, AS WELL FOR PARTNERS FOR YOU ALL. AND IF YOU GUYS NEED ANYTHING FROM US THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH HEARING NONE. THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR TIME TODAY HAVE NO FURTHER

[Adjournment Note: Agendas are followed at the discretion of the Chair. While an item may be listed, it does not mean all items will be heard and/or acted upon by the Committee.]