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          METRO TV. WE ARE WAITING FOR A FORUM. 
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ME. TV WILL BEGIN IN 60 SECONDS 60 SECONDS. 
          WELCOME TO PLANE ZONING COMMITTEE AND COUNCILWOMAN MADONNA FLOOD. I'M JOINED BY. 
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I'M THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE. I'M JOINED BY MY VICE CHAIR COUNCILMAN SCOTT REED BY 
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COUNCILMAN BEN RENO WEBER BY COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW OWEN BY COUNCIL MEMBER KHALIL BAON. 
          WE'RE ALSO JOINED BY COUNCILWOMAN CINDY FOWLER, WHO HAS A CHANGE IN ZONING ON IN HER DISTRICT COUNCILMAN, UH JY ARTHUR AND BY COUNCIL PAULA MCCRANEY, WHO HAS LEGISLATION IN OUR, UM COMMITTEE. COUNCILMAN ROBIN INGLE WILL BE HERE MOMENTARILY. OUR FIRST ORDER OF 
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 O-047-24     AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE ZONING OF PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 9201, 9203, 9300, 9307, 9308, 9400, & 9402 CANE RUN ROAD CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 19.97 ACRES AND BEING IN LOUISVILLE METRO (CASE NO. 23ZONE0139).
Action Required By:  May 1, 2024
**Council Member Cindi Fowler (D-14) can vote on this zoning change**
Sponsors: Madonna Flood (D-24) ]
BUSINESS. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO ITEM NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS AN ORDINANCE RELATED TO THE ZONING ON PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 92 01 92 03 9393 07, 93, 08 9400 AND 94 02 CANE RUN ROAD CONTAINED IN APPROXIMATELY 19.97 ACRES AND BEING A LITTLE METRO CASE NUMBER 23 ZONE 0139 BEFORE YOU BEGIN, UH, BRIAND TO SAY THAT THIS MEETING'S BEEN HELD FOR SOON TO KRS. 61.826 IN COUNCIL RURAL FIVE A. GO AHEAD, BRIAN SORRY, A MOTION. OH, WELL, I CAN'T MAKE THE MOST SORRY. MHM. I. I COULDN'T HEAR. YOUR MOTION. PROPERTY MADE A SECOND. ALL RIGHT. THA YOU VERY MUCH. 
          BRIAN DAVIS LOUIS METRO OFFICE OF PLANNG. U THI IS PLANNI COMMISSIO. DOET NUMB 23 ZONE 139OR MHAEL IN H ESI UH T PR IQUON. 
          92030907 9308 418,004 02 CAN RUN ROAD, UH, LOCATED METRO COUNCIL DISTRICT, 14. UH THE PROPERTIES OUTLINED IN BLUE ON THE AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH. SHOW THE PROPERTIES IN QUESTION. UM THE, UH, THE MAIN SITE THAT THERE IN THE CENTER WITH THE IS OBVIOUSLY A COMMERCIAL USE, AND 
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THE AFRICA IS PROPOSING TO EXPAND THE COMMERCIAL USE TO THE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT ARE SHOWN ON THE OUTLINE. THIS IS A ZONING MAP OF THE AREA. UH SO THE PRIMARY PROPERTY IS ZONE C TWO THAT WAS WISHING TO EXTEND THAT ZONING TO THE OTHER SITES THAT ARE OUTLINED IN BLUE SO THAT THEY WOULD ALSO BE C TWO COMMERCIAL. UH, SO THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU CHANGE THE ZONING FROM R FOUR TO C TWO. UM THE, UH , PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH THE RESTAURANT USE AND ASSOCIATE PARKING. UH, THE PROPOSED EXPANSION OF THE RESTAURANT WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY 3300 SQUARE FEET PLUS TWO NEW PAVILIONS, UH, THERE WOULD BE AN EXPANSION OF THE PARKING AREAS. UH, THERE WILL BE 323 PERMANENT SPACES AND THEN APPROXIMATELY 250 OVERLOAD SPACES THAT AREN'T PAVED. UH AND THEN THERE WOULD BE AN AN ADDITION OF OUTDOOR EVENT SPACE, WHICH IS ABOUT 205,000 SQUARE FEET. THIS IS THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN HERE. UH, SO THE EXISTING RESTAURANT, UH, HERE IS KIND OF TOP CENTER OF THE, UH OF THE MAP OF THE OF THE PLANET. YOU SEE, UH SO THE, UH THE PARKING EXPANSIONS WOULD BE TO THE SOUTH OF THE RESTAURANT, WHICH IS TO THE LEFT ON THE PHOTO. UH AND THEN ALSO, UH, ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF CANE RUN ROAD, YOU'LL SEE SOME EXPANSION OF THE EXISTING PARKING LOT THAT IS ON THE, UM, ON THE EAST SIDE OF CAN RUN ROAD. UH THE OVERFLOW PARKING AREA IS LABELED AS TRACK . UH, TRACK FOUR ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN KIND OF AN UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER OF THE, UH, OF THE PLAN THAT YOU SEE, UH AND THEN THE OUTDOOR EVENT AREA WHERE THEY WOULD HAVE, UH LIKE OUTDOOR EVENTS, TEMPORARY EVENTS. SEASONAL EVENTS, UM THAT IS LOCATED BETWEEN CAN RUN ROAD AND GREEN BELT HIGHWAY S LABEL AS TRACK THREE ON THE, UH, ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THESE ARE SOME OF THE SITE PHOTOS OF THE PROPERTY. THIS IS THE EXISTING RESTAURANT. UH, LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE LOOKING TO THE, UH TO THE WEST, UH, FROM CAN RUN ROAD. UH, AND THEN THIS IS THE, UH, EXISTING PARKING LOT THAT'S ON THE EAST SIDE OF CAM RUN ROAD AND THEN YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE GREEN AREA BEHIND THAT, UH, THAT IS THE AREA THAT THEY HAVE DESIGNATED FOR THE, UH, THE OUT OUTDOOR, UH, EVENT SPACE. THIS IS ONE OF THE EXISTING HOUSES, WHICH IS PART OF THE APPLICATION AS WELL. UH, THE APPLICANT HAS DESIGNATED THE HOUSES TO BE USED FOR A PROPOSED OFFICE OR RETAIL, UH, ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. UH, THE, UH, APPLICANT CONDUCTED THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING ON OCTOBER 11TH 2023 THE LAND DEVELOPMENT TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE MEETINGS ON JANUARY 11TH 2024. THE PLANNING COMMISSION CONDUCTED A PUBLIC HEARING ON FEBRUARY 1ST 2024 AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION PLANNING COMMISSION'S MOTION WAS TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE CHANGE IN ZONING, UH, FROM OUR FOUR TO C TWO THAT PASSED BY VOTE OF 8 TO 0, AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE ON YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? THANK YOU, BRIAN. UM AND ON THE ON THE PLOT WHERE YOU SHOWED THE OVERFLOW PARKING AND IT SAYS IT'S NOT GONNA BE PAID. IS IT GOING TO BE GRAVELED? OR ANYWAY? IS IT JUST A GONNA BE DARK? I I DON'T RECALL WHAT THEY SAID THEY WERE GONNA DO I. I DON'T REMEMBER IF THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO TREAT IT WITH GRAVEL OR IF IT WAS SINCE IT'S LIKE OVERFLOW, TEMPORARY IF THEY WERE GOING TO LEAVE IT AS GRASS AND HOPE IT MAKES IT. UH SO II. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR OFFICIAL PLANS WERE, UH, ON THAT SPACE. SO WHAT WE USUALLY DO WITH OVERFLOW. UH, PARKING. WE JUST IF IT IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT GONNA BE USED PERMANENTLY, UH, AND USE FOR OVERFLOW. THEN THEN WE WOULD. WE WOULD PREFER TO SEE IT AS GRASS THAT WAY. BECAUSE YOU KNOW YOU YOU DO MAINTAIN SOME OF THE PERMEABILITY OF THE OF THE SURFACE. UM BUT, MAN CONTINUOUS, BECAUSE IF IT DOES GET IN A CONDITION, OBVIOUSLY WHERE IT'S KILLING THE GRASS. IT'S JUST KIND OF LIKE A MUD PIT OR WHATEVER. THEN THEN WE WOULD DEFINITELY, UH, REACH BACK OUT TO THE A AND SEE WHAT THEY WHAT KIND OF, UH, IDEAS THEY HAVE FOR CORRECTING THAT. AND WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY COUNCILWOMAN JENNIFER CHAPPELL AND BY COUNCILMAN PHILIP BAKER. UM. DON'T HAVE ANYONE IN IN THE QUEUE YET. I THINK I KNOW WHAT THIS IS IN COUNCILWOMAN CINDY FOWLER, AND SHE IS WITH US. VIRTUALLY THERE SHE IS. COUNCILWOMAN FOWLER. YES UH, THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. SO, UM YOU KNOW, I'M I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS WHOLE PROJECT . MY ONLY CONCERN IS THE, UM THE BANNING ELEMENT THAT WE ALWAYS PUT ON. UM ESPECIALLY ON A COMMERCIAL USE. UM THAT IT COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL. UM AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION. IF THERE'S A CHANGE, UM THE OTHER THING IS THE CROSSWALK THAT, UH, WAS RECOMMENDED. THE STATE WAS NEVER CLEAR ON HOW THAT WAS GONNA BE HANDLED. UH, THE COMMISSIONERS DID SAY THAT THEY THOUGHT THAT, UM A BUTTON TO SORT OF PEDESTRIANS TO PUSH A BUTTON BEFORE THEY CROSS THE STREET AND I, I I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT THAT WOULDN'T HAPPEN. UM AND YOU KNOW, GO THROUGH THERE ALL THE TIME AND PEOPLE ARE FLYING. IT'S 
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A WONDER PEOPLE HAVEN'T BEEN HIT. SO I JUST WOULD LIKE SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT, UH, FLASHING LIGHT THAT THAT THEY HAVE PROPOSED. TRAVIS RESEARCH, ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY HERE. 
          I CAN SPEAK TO SOME OF THAT, AND BRIAN MAY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF INSIGHT AS WELL. UM SO THERE IS A BUNNING HELMET PLANNING COMMISSION PLACE THAT SORT OF CLARIFIED THAT OUR PREFERRED METHOD IS THE UM YOU KNOW, BUTTON ACTIVATION IN THIS CASE, UM THERE ARE ALSO IN UNFORTUNATELY, THE PLAN IS NOT CURRENTLY ON THE SYSTEM. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT WE'LL BE SURE TO GET IT TO YOU ALL PRIOR TO A FULL COUNCIL MEETING, BUT THERE ARE THREE KYTC NOTES ON THE PLAN, AND THOSE NOTES ARE SORT OF LIKE BING OUT OF THEM. THEY THEY GET IMPLEMENTED, UM, STRONGER THAN MINING ELEMENTS. REALLY SINCE THEY'RE FROM KYTC. THEY AREN'T GONNA BE ABLE TO GET ANYTHING DONE WITHOUT, UH, THE STATE'S APPROVAL HERE. UH, AND THOSE READ AS FOLLOWS. UM THERMOPLASTIC CROSSING, MARKING, AND YIELD BAR MARKINGS WILL BE REQUIRED FOR EACH CROSSING. 
          THERE'S TWO CROSSWALKS SHOWN ON THE PLAN. UH, PEDESTRIAN WARNING SIGNS WILL BE REQUIRED AS WELL AS RECTANGULAR RAPID FLASH BEACONS. UH, LONG LINES DRIVING REVISIONS WILL BE NECESSARY TO ELIMINATE PASSING ZONE WITHIN 500 FT OF THE PROPOSED CROSSWALK . SO THERE'S ALREADY SOME, UH, IMPROVEMENTS THAT KYCT HAS SPECIFIED. THAT THOSE NOTES DON'T NECESSARILY SPECIFY THE SORT OF METHOD OF ACTIVATION. UM . AND SO YOU KNOW, I THINK KYTC WILL WILL SEE THIS REQUEST FROM US, BUT ULTIMATELY IT IS THEIR ROAD WIND. IT IS THEIR CALL. UM SO WE DON'T YOU KNOW IF THEY DECIDE THAT THEY PREFER A SORT OF CONSTANT FLASH HERE, UM, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT IT WILL BE. 
          ULTIMATELY, IT'S IN KYT C'S HANDS. UM, BUT BUT I THINK YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDING IT IN A BINDING ELEMENT IS ABOUT AS STRONG AS WE CAN. YEAH. SO WHEN IS IT THAT THEY MAKE THAT DECISION, I GUESS IS MY QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW. EXACTLY AND BRIAN, THIS IS THE MOMENT YOU MAY HAVE MORE INSIGHT THAN I DO. SURE NO. SO WE WOULD LOOK AT BECAUSE THAT YOU KNOW, SINCE THEY ARE DOING CONSTRUCTION ON THE SITE, UH AND THERE ARE SOME PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS BEING, UH, PROPOSED ON THE RIGHT OF WAY THEN KYTC WOULD MAKE THAT DETERMINATION AT THE TIME THAT THEY COME IN TO MAKE THOSE, UH, THOSE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SITE. TRAVIS. DO YOU MIND READING AGAIN? WHAT? THERE THERE'S TWO C. AND THEN WHAT DID YOU SAY? UM A PEDESTRIAN SIGN. 
          AND, UM. A FLASHING WHAT? RIGHT, SO THERE'S UH THERMOPLASTIC CROSSWALK MARKINGS AND YIELD BAR MARKINGS, WHICH I GUESS IS PROBABLY JUST PAINT. UM AND THEN THERE'S UM. PEDESTRIAN WARNING SIGNS WILL BE INSTALLED AS WELL AS RECTANGULAR RAPID FLASH BEACONS. OK SO IS THAT THE IS THAT THE FLASHING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? OR AND SO I THINK THAT REFERS TO THE B. I MEAN, I ADMITTEDLY I DON'T KNOW THIS FOR CERTAIN BECAUSE WE DON'T NORMALLY GET THIS QUITE FAR INTO THE WAY FOR CROSSWALKS BECAUSE ON KYTC ISSUES, UM I'M ASSUMING THAT IS MORE REFERRING TO THE HARDWARE RIGHT A BEACON THAT'S CAPABLE OF RAPID FLASHING NOT THE PROGRAMMING AND REQUIRING IT TO BE A CONSTANT FLASH AT THIS POINT. UM I. I THINK THAT'S MORE REFERRING TO THE HARDWARE THAT'S GOING TO BE INSTALLED. AND THEN YOU KNOW HOW THAT'S ACTIVATED MIGHT STILL HAVE TIME TO BE DETERMINED. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE A HARD AND FAST ONE WAY OR THE OTHER AT THIS POINT ON THAT NO, AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSED THAT DURING THE HEARING, AND THEY KIND OF WENT BACK AND FORTH ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT IT WOULD BE BETTER TO MAKE IT WHERE IT'S A PEDESTRIAN, UH, TRIGGERED, UH, FLASHING. UH, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE HAVE OUT IN FRONT OF THE, UH, METRO HALL HERE, UH OR IF IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THAT WOULD FLASH PERMANENTLY AND YOU KNOW, THE CONCERN FROM SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS LIKE IF IT'S A PERMANENTLY FLASHING WHITE PEOPLE GET USED TO IT. THEY THEY LOSE IT. BUT IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S TRIGGERED BY A PEDESTRIANS, THEN THAT YOU KNOW YOU'RE GONNA SEE THAT HAPPEN. UH AND EVEN IF YOU LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UH, ON THAT SIDE WITH THE PARKING, UH, THEY ARE PROPOSING SOME FENCING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, YOU CAN JUST KIND OF CROSS WHEREVER YOU WANT, UH, TO GO FROM THE PARKING OVER TO THE, UH TO THE RESTAURANT SIDE, AND SO THEY ARE, UH, DOING SOME, UH, DESIGN MEASURES OF PUTTING THOSE IN PLACE IN ORDER TO HELP TO FUNNEL PEDESTRIANS TO THE CROSSWALK SITES AND SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THE THOUGHT IS THAT, UH, BY DOING THAT, PLUS THE, UH, YOU KNOW, WHICHEVER MECHANISM THE STATE CHOOSES THAT THAT WILL HELP TO, UH, KIND OF, UH, YOU KNOW, FROM WHAT THERE FROM A PEDESTRIAN SAFETY STANDPOINT. SO . SO WITH WITH THE TWO CROSSWALKS IS ARE GOING TO BE THE RAPID FLASHING BEACON AT BOTH CROSSWALKS OR IS, UM, A BUTTON AT EITHER ONE GOING TO, UH, GENERATE THE FLASHING, UM, OF ONE SIGN, OR DO WE KNOW. I DON'T THINK WE KNOW AT THIS POINT. I MEAN, I I'M ASSUMING THE BEACONS WOULD BE LOCATED AT BOTH. UM, AND IF THEY WERE TO GO WITH PRESS ACTIVATED, I WOULD THINK BOTH WOULD PROB. WELL I DON'T KNOW IS THAT CONFUSING THE DRIVERS AT BOTH FLASHED, BUT THERE'S ONLY A PEDESTRIAN AT ONE II. I CAN SPEAK TO THIS A LITTLE BIT. I DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THIS PROJECT, BUT I DO 
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KNOW THE WAY THEY HAVE TYPICALLY WORKED ON KYTC IS THAT THERE WILL BE IT WILL BE BUTTON CONTROLLED, AND IT WILL BE RAPID FLASHING BEACONS AT EACH CROSSWALK. UH, THAT WOULD BE ACTIVATED BY A PEDESTRIAN. I'VE NOT SEEN ONE THERE. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY DON'T EXIST. BUT I'VE NOT SEEN ONE THAT'S BEEN IMPROVED BY KYTC THAT HAS A CONSTANT FLASHING, BUT MAYBE THERE IS ONE USUALLY IT IS AAA BUTTON. UH, ACTIVATED SYSTEM BY BY PEDESTRIANS. I WAS GONNA SAY I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT KYTC IS OPEN TO THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE NOT VERY LONG AGO THEY WERE NOT OPEN TO THIS CONVERSATION IN JUST ABOUT ANY CIRCUMSTANCE ON THEIR ROADS, AND THEY ANOTHER ONE IS, UH, IN FRONT OF MELWOOD ART CENTER, WHERE THEY DECIDED TO PUT ONE IN THERE, AND THAT ONE WORKS REALLY WELL. ALSO IT'S A BUTTON ACTIVATED, SO I'M GLAD KYTC IS OPEN TO THIS. AND I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION ABOUT IT. AND, UH, IS THIS IS THIS INFRASTRUCTURE KIND OF ON THE KYTC INFRASTRUCTURE GOING TO BE PAID FOR BY THE APPLICANT, OR IS THAT GOING TO BE PAID FOR? AND ANOTHER WAY RIGHT? IT WOULD BE PAID FOR BY THE APPLICANT, OK? I'M SORRY. WHO WAS THAT SPEAKING THAT WAS COUNCILMAN OWEN. THANK YOU. UM OK, WELL, UH. THAT'S ABOUT ALL I'VE GOT OTHER THAN THE TWO WE KNOW WHO AND, UM AT KYTC. WE'RE DEALING WITH ANYBODY GOT A NAME? IS IT JASON RICHARDSON? OR IS IT KEVIN BAILEY? JASON TYPICALLY HANDLES ALL OF THE, UH, THE PER YOU KNOW, THE REVIEWS THAT WE HAVE HERE SO THAT THAT WOULD BE OUR PRIMARY CONTACT. OK, ALL RIGHT. 
          AND THAT BRINGS ME BACK TO THE QUESTION. I ASKED YOU BEFORE THE MEETING TRAVIS ON BY AN ELEMENT NUMBER 10. IT DOESN'T SPECIFICALLY SAY THAT IT'S PAID BY FOR BY THE APPLICANT. DO WE NEED TO? I DON'T THINK WE NEED IT. IN THIS CASE ON THE NUMBER. 10 IS REALLY JUST OUR SORT OF REQUEST TO KYTC ABOUT THE FLASHING MECHANISM. UH THE FACT THAT THE CROSSWALKS WILL BE INSTALLED OR ARE LOCATED IN THE KYTC NOTES. UH AND THAT MEANS THE APPLICANTS ARE GONNA HAVE TO INSTALL THEM SO LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER BAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, SO I'M GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PROJECT. I THINK, UM LIKE LENNINGS IS OBVIOUSLY A HISTORIC INSTITUTE SHEN THAT HAS SERVED A LOT OF POUNDS OF FISH OVER THE YEARS AND, UM GREAT PLACE, GREAT ATMOSPHERE. SO IN REGARDS TO THE CROSSWALK. I CAN DEFINITELY RELATE TO COUNCILWOMAN FOWLER'S CONCERNS. UM AND GENERALLY SURPRISED THAT NO ONE HAS GOTTEN HURT. KNOCK ON WOOD. UM SO WITH THE CROSSWALK AND THE SIGNS AND THE BUTTON BEACONS. UH I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS HERE OF THIS IS, BUT IT WOULD IT BE WISE FOR US TO ADD OR REQUEST, NOT JUST THOSE. BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, SOME TYPE OF RUMBLE STRIP UM. YOU KNOW, 100 YARDS AWAY BEFORE THEY GET TO THE CROSSWALK TO OBVIOUSLY SLOW SOME OF THESE, UM HIGH SPEED TRAVELERS DOWN BEF BEFORE THE BEACONS ARE ACTIVATED. SO THERE IS SOME, UH TAPERING THAT'S ALREADY GOING TO BE DONE. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS I MENTIONED THERE'S SOME PASSING LANES THAT ARE TOO CLOSE TO WHAT KYTC ALLOWS FOR WHEN THERE'S PEDESTRIAN, SO THERE'S GONNA BE SOME ROAD CHANGES THAT ARE VISIBLY NOTICEABLE. I DON'T KNOW. DOES KYTC DO I? I CAN'T THINK OF A UM, ON THE RUMMEL STRIP FRONT. I MEAN, WE COULD ASK, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THEY GENERALLY FAVOR. I DON'T KNOW THEIR STANDARDS. I KNOW WHAT I KNOW ABOUT WHAT PUBLIC WORK STANDARDS WOULD BE. BUT FOR THE STATE, I DO NOT KNOW. YEAH. SO IF WE'D LIKE TO ADD THAT AS A AS A REQUEST TO SORT OF KYTC AGAIN, THEY HAVE PERMITTED LANGUAGE. HOW WOULD WE CAN I? I THINK, UM, TO COUNCILWOMAN FOWLER'S POINT. I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY IDEAL TO SLOW SOME OF THE TRAFFIC DOWN IN THAT SECTION THERE BEFORE. UM THEY APPROACHED THE PEDESTRIANS, CROSSWALK. IS THERE SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN FRONT OF THE, UH, SENECA GOLF CLUB? AT THAT CROSSWALK THAT GOES FROM THE CLUBHOUSE OVER TO THE FIRST T WHERE THERE ARE RUMBLE STRIPS THERE. FOR THAT GENTLEMAN GOT HIT ON HIS GOLF CART. I THINK. 
          YEAH I THINK THERE ARE RUMBLE STRIPS THERE. SO I MEAN, NOT THAT THAT'S A KYTC ROAD, BUT THERE'S AT LEAST SOME IT'S UNUSUAL TO SEE HIM ON. UH JUST YOU KNOW A OR ONE OF OUR LOCAL ROADS, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A STATE ROAD. UM USUALLY YOU SEE THEM ON INTERSTATES. UM THERE'S SOME APPROACHING. THEY USED TO BE. I THINK THEY JUST GOT WORN OUT APPROACHING THE DIXIE HIGHWAY. 
          UM OR THE SPEED LIMIT CHANGES. SO I'M I'M NOT SURE. AND I'M OPEN TO THAT IF THEY WOULD DO 
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IT. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WILL. WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY COUNCILMAN INGLE AND BY COUNCILMAN DAN SIM WAS ON THERE. I CAN'T TELL IF HE'S STILL THEY ALL OK? COUNCILMAN NEAGLE AND THAT'S ALL WE'VE BEEN TO OK, UM, COUNCIL. YOU STILL NEED A FEW MINUTES TO WORK ON THAT. SO MY WHAT I'M THINKING IS A NEW BINDING ELEMENT NUMBER 11 IF PERMITTED BY THE KC A CABINET. UH, UH, RUMBLE STRIPS SHALL BE INSTALLED AT APPROPRIATE LOCATIONS ALONG THE, UM INSTALLED CROSSWALKS. 
          YOU KNOW, MOVE THAT AMENDMENT. UM MOVE THAT A MINUTE. SECOND PROBABLY MOVED IN SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR OF BUYING UP AT NUMBER 11, WHICH, UM, TALKS ABOUT THE RUMBLE STRIPS. POLIC SIGNIFY BY SAYING I THOSE OPPOSED BY LIKE, SIGN HEARING ON THE MOTION CARRIES AND THEN WE NEED THE NEXT BIT ELEMENT. YES, AND THEN I'LL GO ON TO THE STANDARD MINING ELEMENT, UH, WHICH WOULD BECOME NUMBER 12 ANY SIGNIFICANT INCREASES TO THE PRO STRUCTURES EG INCREASES IN BUILDING HEIGHT, NUMBER OF UNITS, NUMBER OF BUILDINGS, ANY INCREASE IN DENSITY ON THE PROPERTY? ANY CHANGES IN USE ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH OR INDIRECTLY REQUIRE THE PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR SUB-COMMITTEE THEREOF, AND OR ANY AMENDMENT TO THE BINDING ELEMENTS OTHER THAN I ADDITIONAL NEW BINDING ELEMENTS TO I CHANGES TO BINDING ELEMENTS THAT MERELY UPDATE THE PUBLIC HEARING DATE OR THREE. I UPDATING YOUR PREVIOUS VERSION OF THIS BINDING ELEMENT TO REFLECT THE CURRENT LANGUAGE SHALL BE REVIEWED FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WITH FINAL ACTION TO BE DETERMINED BY METRO COUNCIL. MOTION TO APPROVE PROBABLY MAY THE SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE BINDING ELEMENT SIGNIFIED BY SAYING, I. THOSE ARE THOSE ARE OPPOSED BY LIKE SIGN HEARING ON THE MOTION CARRIES, UH, COUNCILMAN CHAPO. SO, ADDING MY TWO CENTS HERE FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. UM BUT I'M GONNA ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO LOOK INTO THIS, BUT I BELIEVE ON A KYTC STREET. UM THERE CAN'T BE ANYTHING LIKE RUMBLE STRIPS, SPEED HUMPS, SPEED BUMPS, UM, ANYTHING THAT'S CONSIDERED A SNOW ROUTE OR AN EMERGENCY ROUTE . AND SO I WOULD ASSUME THAT THIS ROAD IS, UM, BUT I'M EXCITED TO SEE KYTC BEING MORE EXPLORATIVE IN PUTTING CROSSWALKS IN, UM ON THEIR STREETS. WE'RE GETTING ONE ON GOSS AVENUE AND I'M VERY, VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT. AND I HOPE THAT AT THE CROSSWALK BEACON WILL BE THE SIMILAR ONE TO WHAT IS OUTSIDE OF CITY HALL THAT CONNECTS CITY HALL AND METRO HALL. WHERE UM, THE BEACON FLASHES WHEN A PEDESTRIAN PUSHES THE BUTTON. SO OF COURSE YOU HAVE ALL OF THESE OTHER VISUAL STIMULATORS 24 7. BUT THEN WHEN IT HAS THIS THING THAT'S ALERTING SOMEONE. WHEN SOMEONE IS THERE, IT MAKES PEOPLE MORE COGNIZANT INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW ALL THIS THING'S ALWAYS ON, UM, AND THEN THEY JUST KIND OF LIKE BLOW THROUGH IT, BUT LIKE BEING MORE REPRESENTATIVE OF HAVING A LIGHT THAT'S THERE WHEN A PEDESTRIAN IS THERE IS SOMETHING THAT I HOPE THAT WE SEE MORE THROUGHOUT LOUISVILLE AND ALSO ON THIS PROJECT, SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THANK THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN REED. UH, THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND THIS IS MY THREE CENTS WORD. WE PUT RUMBLE STRIPS AND WE WERE HAVING A REALLY, REALLY BAD SPEEDING ISSUE PROBLEM THAT COX'S PARK IN PUBLIC WORKS CAME UP WITH WHAT I THOUGHT A VERY GOOD IDEA TO PUT THE RUBBLE STRIPS IN. THEY WERE MET WITH SOME OPPOSITION BY THE PEOPLE THAT WERE SPEEDING, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN REALLY HELPFUL. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO ADD. IS THAT A STATE HIGHWAY? I'M SORRY. IT'S NOT IT. IT ISN'T I WAS JUST TALKING TO THE EFFICACY OF RUMBLE STRIPS THEMSELVES AND SOLVING THE PROBLEM. BY HELPING SOLVE THE PROBLEM. THEY'RE ACTUALLY CINDY INSIDE THE PARKING AREA WHERE, UH, WHERE PEOPLE PARK AND MUCH THEIR BOATS. RIGHT AND PEOPLE WERE DOING DONUTS. THEY WERE THEY WERE, UH, DOING DRAG RACING ON ON THREE WHEELERS. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH STOPPED. YEAH, GOOD. YEAH, WE'RE GONNA WE'LL REQUEST THAT OF OUR PUBLIC WORKS TO PUT RUMBLE STRIPS AT THE INTERSECTIONS. THERE. MIGHT SOME PEOPLE DOWN? I DON'T KNOW. BUT QUIET, CINDY. UM SO YOU KNOW, THAT'S A 25 MILE PER HOUR SPEED LIMIT THROUGH THERE ANYWAY, SO PEOPLE SHOULDN'T BE MARY WENT THROUGH, BUT THEY DO. UM YOU KNOW, IT'S THEY MADE IT 25 LONG TIME AGO BECAUSE OF, UH YOU KNOW, MIKE G, SO AND THE CROSS. YOU KNOW THE CROSSING, BUT HOPEFULLY THIS IS GOING TO SOLVE IJ MOST OF THEM ANYWAY. THANK YOU. THERE'S NO ONE ELSE IN THE Q. IS ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD? NO, WE'RE READY TO VOTE. CHERYL. HOLDS OPEN. MADAM CHAIR. ARE WE VOTING TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE DUE TO THE BEFORE THE REQUEST FOR THE BINDING ELEMENTS COME THROUGH. WE'VE ALREADY DID OK. HE ALSO REMEMBER FOWLER. YES RIGHT. SO DID WE PUT ON BOTH CLERKS AND I READ THE STANDARD MONEY. I THOUGHT WE DID, BUT I WASN'T SURE. YEAH. GO 
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AHEAD. SORRY. VOTING IS OPEN. COUNCIL MEMBER, MARINA WEBER. YES. VICE CHAIR. HE THOUGHT I VOTED. YES, BUT YES. I CANCEL ONE AND SHE SAID. YES, OKAY. SO THERE ARE NINE YES VOTES. AND THIS WILL GO TO OLD BUSINESS AT OUR NEXT MEETING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN FOWLER. 
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 R-016-24     A RESOLUTION REQUESTING THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW THE METRO LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REGULATIONS WITH REGARD TO NOTICE REQUIREMENTS FOR REVISED DEVELOPMENT PLANS.
Action Required By:  August 2024
Sponsors: Paula McCraney (D-7) ]
ITEM NUMBER THREE IS A RESOLUTION REQUESTING THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW THE METRO LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REGULATIONS WITH REGARD TO NOTICE REQUIREMENTS FOR REVISED DEVELOPMENT PLANS. MOTION PAPER. PROBABLY MOVING IN SECOND. WE'RE READY FOR DISCUSSION. UM AND COUNCILWOMAN MCCRANEY IS THE SPONSOR, SO WE WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MCCRAE. THANK YOU, CHAIRWOMAN. UH YES, THIS IS, UH, A REQUEST FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO UNDERTAKE A REVIEW OF THE CURRENT UM, COLD SO THAT THEY CAN ADOPT OUR AMENDMENT TO SAY THAT IF THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN A DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT IT WOULD GO BACK THROUGH FOR A COMMUNITY MEETING. AND IF YOU READ THROUGH THE ORDINANCE IS IT BASICALLY READS LIKE A BINDING ELEMENT, BUT THIS IS NOW TO CODIFY IT IN, UH, IN LAW, SO WE'RE ASKING THEM TO REVIEW THIS FOR ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES LIKE IN HEIGHT AND A NUMBER OF UNITS JUST LIKE IN THE BINDING ELEMENTS THAT, UH, ACTUALLY, TRAVIS JUST READ OFF NOT TOO LONG AGO. AND UM, WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL SO THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN IN FACT, REVIEW THIS AND CONSIDER IT BECAUSE REMEMBER THAT CANE RUN ROAD SITUATION WHERE WE THOUGHT IT APPEARED TO BE BAIT AND SWITCH. AND SO THIS IS CONSIDERED A BAIT AND SWITCH RESOLUTION FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO RECONSIDER AND ADOPT. WHETHER OR NOT NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS AND ADDITIONAL NOTICES SHOULD BE REQUIRED FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF CHANGES IN THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. 
          DID PLANNING AND DESIGN HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANTED TO SPECIFICALLY SAY ABOUT JUST ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. IF THERE ARE ANY. UM DOES THE 90 DAY GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME TO UH, 120 DAYS WOULD BE IDEAL, ESPECIALLY IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE EXPECTING A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION. TO YOU KNOW FROM THEM, UH, I THINK 100 AND 20 DAYS WOULD BE BETTER FOR A SITUATION LIKE THAT, UH, GRANTED IT. THIS TYPE OF RESEARCH PROBABLY DOESN'T INVOLVE AS MUCH, UM PUBLIC INTERACTION IS LIKE THE ONE THAT THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY RESEARCHING FOR COUNCILMAN ARTHUR. UH, BUT WE WOULD. WE WOULD PREFER 100 AND 20 DAYS JUST BECAUSE THAT GIVES US A LITTLE MORE CUSHION WITH THE YOU KNOW, GETTING IT TO PLANNING COMMISSION ALL THE DOSES THAT THAT THAT IS REQUIRED OF THAT AND THEN GETTING OVER TO YOU ALL. I RESPECT THAT QUESTION . UH, COUNCILWOMAN, UH, CHAIR. BUT UM I WOULD HOPE THAT WE CAN KEEP IT AND MAINTAIN IT AT 90 DAYS. I THINK IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. WE HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS FOR A WHILE. I DON'T SEE THAT THERE'S ANY RESEARCH THAT'S GOING TO BE REQUIRED FOR THIS. SO IF THEY CAN TRY TO ACCOMMODATE US WITHIN THOSE 90 DAYS, I MEAN, IT'S PLAIN AND SIMPLE AND WRITTEN OUT IN, UH THE BINDING ELEMENT LANGUAGE, SO I WOULD HOPE THAT THE COMMITTEE WOULD CONSIDER MAINTAINING THAT 90 DAY REQUIREMENT. I MEAN, IT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE, REALLY, BUT 90 DAYS. I THINK IT'S ENOUGH TIME FOR THEM TO CONSIDER THIS AND GET IT BACK. BUT I THINK WHAT WE'RE INTERESTED IN DOING IS LOOKING AT THE CRITERIA THAT YOU'VE ESTABLISHED HERE AND THEN DETERMINING HOW MANY CASES THAT MAY ACTUALLY APPLY TO AND WHY SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS NEEDED, AS OPPOSED TO 1174 TRAVIS 75. YEAH SO YOU KNOW, WE JUST WANT TO HAVE TIME TO DO THAT. BUT IF YOU ALL WANT 90 DAYS, THEN WE'LL WE WILL WORK TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. COUNCIL MEMBER OWEN. 
          THANK YOU CHAIR. UM SO CAN YOU ACTUALLY SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS AND 1175. CERTAINLY SO 1175 IS A, UM, A REACTIVE MEASURE OF BRINGING THE CASE IN FRONT OF 
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COUNSEL, RIGHT? UM THERE'S A DEVELOPMENT PLAN DOESN'T HAVE THE STANDARD BINDING ELEMENT ON IT, UH, AMENDMENT THAT IS FILED. IT'S NOT A REZONING, SO IT DOESN'T COME HERE AUTOMATICALLY AND SO COUNCIL CAN CHOOSE TO PICK UP A PLAN THAT OTHERWISE IT WOULDN'T COME HERE. SO THAT'S WHAT WE DID EARLIER THIS YEAR ON YES, WE HAVE USED THAT. YES WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF WE USE IT THIS CALENDAR YEAR. BUT WHAT? YEAH, YEAH, RECENTLY, UM THE STANDARD MINING ELEMENT SORT OF DOES THAT PROACTIVELY RIGHT? IT TAKES A CASE AND SAYS, HEY, IN THE FUTURE. IF THERE ARE MAJOR CHANGES MADE, WE'RE GOING TO WANT TO LOOK AT IT. UM THIS. CHANGE AS WRITTEN. WOULD APPLY THAT ACROSS A SORT OF BROADER CATEGORY OF CASES, RIGHT. UH AND SO RATHER THAN NEEDING THE STANDARD BINDING ELEMENT ATTACHED. THIS WOULD JUST BE SORT OF A FUNDAMENTAL PART OF PLANNING AND ZONING LAW, SO IF THOSE SORT OF MAJOR CHANGES WERE MADE THOSE WOULD AUTOMATICALLY GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION GO TO COUNCIL. SO IT JUST SORT OF BROADEN THE SCOPE FROM APPLYING THEM ON INDIVIDUAL CASES TO APPLYING IT TO YOU KNOW, IN ANY CASE THAT MEETS THE CRITERIA, AND IT'S THE IT'S THE STANDARD WELL, THEN I SHOULD CLARIFY THAT THAT'S THIS IS REQUIRED IN A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING. RIGHT. SO THAT'S THE THAT'S THE AND A NEW PART OF THIS IS THIS IS THE STANDARD OR THE DESCRIPTION OF A MAJOR CHANGE THE SAME AS IT IS WITH THE BINDING ELEMENT. YES THAT LANGUAGE IS PULLED FROM THE STANDARD BINDING ELEMENT LANGUAGE. I THINK WE KNOCKED OUT ONE CATEGORY THAT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE. BUT FOR THE MOST, I MEAN, I MY ONLY CONCERN AT ALL IS THAT WE NOT OPEN UP. OR HIS BOX OF YOU KNOW ANY SLIGHT CHANGE THAT'S MADE GETS, YOU KNOW, BROUGHT BACK TO US THAT THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN. I DON'T EXPECT THAT TO HAPPEN, BUT THAT'S THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN AT ALL. THANK YOU. IF I MIGHT ADD JUST ONE MORE, UH, NOTE ON THAT ON THAT POINT, SO OUR ATTEMPTS WE'VE NOW REVISED THE STANDARD BINDING ON I THINK WE'RE IN OUR THIRD VERSION, AND THE ATTEMPT WAS TO MAKE THIS LANGUAGE AS TO AVOID THOSE TYPES OF SITUATIONS, RIGHT. WE'RE COMPLAINTS FROM THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND FROM SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT YOU KNOW, OK, I SUGGESTING, YOU KNOW, PLANTING ANOTHER TREE OR EXTENDING A FENCE LINE AND NOW I'M BACK IN FRONT OF COUNCILS AGAIN. THIS IS CRAZY. UM AND SO THAT LANGUAGE IS TRYING TO AVOID THE SITUATIONS, BUT YOU'RE GONNA GET SOME DIFFERENCE OF OPINIONS ON WHAT CONSTITUTES A MAJOR OR MINOR CHANGE. UM SO IF FOLKS HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE WE CAN LOOK AT TWEAKING IT FURTHER, BUT WE TRIED TO DIAL IT BACK A BIT, AND THAT'S THE MOST RECENT VERSION. 
          UH, BECAUSE OF SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS. COUNCILMAN CHAPEL. I'VE GOT A FEW THINGS. I'M GONNA TRY AND SAY THIS IS WELL AS I POSSIBLY CAN. BUT ADMITTEDLY, THIS IS SUCH A DIZZYING COMMITTEE. UM. WHEN THIS IS BROUGHT BEFORE US IN 90 DAYS OR HOWEVER LONG, UM, IS THAT IS THERE GOING TO BE AN OUTLINE OF THE CURRENT PROCESS AS WE LOOK INTO THE NEW BECAUSE I THINK THAT FOR ME, I STILL STRUGGLE WITH UNDERSTANDING WHAT WARRANTS ? WHAT TRIGGERS THIS. WHAT GOES TO A COMMITTEE? WHAT DOES THE YOU KNOW THE BINDING ELEMENTS AND IT'S ALL JUST KIND OF A BIG OLD KNOT IN MY BRAIN. AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S SOME SORT OF LIKE PRESENTATION GRAPH OR WHAT HAVE YOU THAT CAN HELP US UNDERSTAND? AND HOW THIS KIND OF LIKE FALLS INTO THAT SYSTEM. I'M ALSO WONDERING, UM WHAT THIS WOULD BE MEASURING AGAINST, SO IT'S LOOKING AT OUR CURRENT SYSTEM AND THEN PROPOSING SOMETHING NEW OR SOME UPDATES OR CHANGES. AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS COMPONENT IS SOMETHING THAT'S VERY UNIQUE TO LOUISVILLE, OR AT LEAST NOT DONE IN A LOT OF OTHER CITIES. AND SO I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT THIS IS GOING TO BE COMPARED WHAT DATA THIS WOULD BE COMPARED TO, SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THAT ANALYSIS THAT WE'RE BEING GIVEN IS BASED ON MAYBE DATA INSTEAD OF A PLANNER'S OPINION, AND THEN LASTLY, UH, CHAIR I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN DIRECT THIS TO RENO, UH, COUNCILMAN RENO WEBER. 
          WHOEVER ELSE WOULD BE WORKING ON THIS LEGISLATION, I IF I CAN RECALL WE RECENTLY S PASS A RESOLUTION TO LOOK INTO SOMETHING WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT'S BEING DONE INTO. UM WHAT BARRIERS THERE ARE TO DEVELOPMENT IN OUR CITY. UM AND HOW TO MAKE IT MORE ACCESSIBLE ON THE CONSTITUENT SIDE. AND SO I'M JUST WONDERING HOW THIS RESOLUTION TIES INTO THAT RESOLUTION. UM BECAUSE I ALSO WANNA BE COGNIZANT OF US PUTTING TOO MUCH ON OUR PLANNERS PLATES. DID THAT ALL MAKE SENSE, AND I'M HAPPY TO REVISIT ANYTHING. IT MADE SENSE TO ME, BUT FANTASTIC. THE CHAIR, SO NO, BUT I MEAN, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, YEAH, THAT WAS SOMETHING BACK BACK IN THE DAY WHEN WE WERE FIRST. TAKING UP ZONING THAT IT WAS THOUGHT THAT, UM HAVING THE DEVELOPERS MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND GAVE SOME LEVEL OF COMFORT THAT THERE WAS INPUT FROM THE NEIGHBORS, AND IT WASN'T HA HA. SURPRISED THERE'S A CHANGE IN ZONING AND YOU'VE GOT TO COME DOWNTOWN TO EXPRESS YOUR FEELINGS, BUT YOU COULD GO TO THE MEETING AND, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY, I'VE SAT IN ON SOME OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS WHERE EVEN THE DEVELOPER HAS 
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SAID THAT'S SOMETHING WE DIDN'T TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION AND IT VASTLY PROVED THE PLAN FOR THEM. 
          BECAUSE IT WAS SOMETHING THAT THEY DIDN'T KNOW THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTED. SO UH, THERE'S I THINK THERE'S SOME GOOD THOUGHT TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. BRIAN I. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO TAKE SOME OF THAT, OR I CAN HIT SORT OF THE PARTS THAT I KNOW IT'S A LOT. SORRY. UM SO I. I KNOW THAT ON THE AND THIS I THINK BRIAN WILL BACK ME UP HERE. UM, BUT ON A LOT OF THE STAFF RESEARCH PIECE IT HELPED WHEN, WHEN STAFF HAS A LOT OF RESEARCH TO DO. 
          IT'S QUESTIONS THAT SORT OF HAPPEN COUNTRY RIGHT AWAY. UH, SO THINGS LIKE SETBACKS LIKE MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING LIKE SHORT TERM RENTAL SITUATIONS. THERE'S LOTS OF EXAMPLES TO TAKE FROM BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING REQUIREMENT IS RELATIVELY UNIQUE. THERE'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE A LOT TO DRAW FROM ON A NATIONAL BASIS . UH AND MAYBE I'M MISTAKEN. 
          MAYBE THERE'S MAYBE IT'S MORE COMMON THAN I. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. SO PLANNERS REBUTTAL. 
          WELL WE'LL WE'LL JUST LOOK INTO IT AND SEE, YOU KNOW, PARTICULARLY WHAT WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR IS WHETHER OR NOT, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS ARE EXTENDED TO LIKE REVISED PLANS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND YOU KNOW, WE ALSO LOVE TO SEE AGAIN. KIND OF COMPARE. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS PROCESS FOR OUR ZONING CHANGES, AS DO OTHER CITIES. UH, JUST KNOWING THAT MUCH WILL HELP US KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAD REQUIRED FOR REVISED PLAN SO THAT THAT'LL BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN EASILY COMPILE AND PUT TOGETHER AS PART OF THE PRESENTATION. BRING IT FORWARD. 
          AS FAR AS DATA GOES, I MEAN, THERE'S PROBABLY SOME REALLY BASIC STUFF. THERE'S A THERE'S A NOTICE PROVISION IN HERE AND SO THAT WOULD BE A YOU KNOW, A LITERAL COST. UM, IT'S GONNA VARY BY, UH BY PROJECT, BUT, UM YOU KNOW, WE CAN ALWAYS SPIN OUR FORMULA AND SAY, HEY, THIS WILL COST YOU KNOW X AMOUNT OF MAILINGS TIMES. UM OR, YOU KNOW, X AMOUNT OF POSTAGE BY, HOWEVER MANY MAILINGS ARE REQUIRED, BUT, UM SHORT OF THAT, NOT A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF DATA THAT I CAN PREDICT ON THE SORT OF BACK END RESULTS BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE SO INDIVIDUAL PROJECT DEPENDENT. I THINK THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE. I THINK THAT THAT IS A SUITABLE ANSWER FOR ME. ON THAT QUESTION. THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE IN THERE. I HAD A RESPONSE TO TOO AND I'VE TALKED MYSELF AWAY FROM IT. UM, WELL, I GUESS THE OTHER SIDE IS HOW DOES THIS COINCIDE WITH THE RESOLUTION? WE JUST PASSED ASKING THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WITH, UM, REVIEWING BLANK, RIGHT ? UM AND THE THING THAT I VOTED AD HOC COMMITTEE HAS ITS FIRST MEETING ON THURSDAY. I DON'T WANT TO STEP ON THEIR TOES. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DISCUSS. I DON'T KNOW HOW IT MAY OR MAY NOT OVERLAP. UH, IS THAT WHAT YOU REFER? I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE REFERENCING, OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE COUNCILMAN ARTHUR'S RESOLUTION. MAYBE I DON'T. I DON'T KNOW I'LL HAVE TO COME BACK TO IT. I'LL HAVE IT PREPARED BY OUR COUNCIL MEETING ON THE NEXT THURSDAY. AT LEAST AND IF YOU DO FIND I'D BE HAPPY TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH YOU, UH, AT ANY POINT SORRY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ARTHUR AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER RENA WEBER. HE HAS HIS HAND HAD HIS HAND UP. 
          WITHDRAW. OK, COUNCILOR ARTHUR COUNCILMAN MARINO WEBER. I. I THINK WHAT IT'S. ENGAGEMENT COMPONENT IS REALLY GOING TO BE AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE AD HOC COMMITTEE'S WORK. SO I'M I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT THEY COME UP WITH. I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE A BIG DEAL, AS WILL THE SOME OF THE COMPONENTS WITH THE ANTI DISPLACEMENT STUFF SO COUNCILWOMAN CHAPPELL. I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU. THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO KEEP. KEEP OUR EYES ON. AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT THEY COME UP WITH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. THIS IS A RESOLUTION CALLING FOR A VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I ALL THOSE OPPOSED BY LIKE SIGN. CARRY ON THE RESOLUTION PASSES BEFORE WE GET OFF THAT SUBJECT ABOUT THE DEADLINES. WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR YOU, UH, BRIAN OR SOMEONE IN YOUR OFFICE TO LOOK AT? UM WHAT DEADLINES THAT THE METRO COUNCIL. UM HAS ON YOU AND WHEN THOSE COME ABOUT AND ALSO ADMINISTRATION SINCE ADMINISTRATION IS TRYING TO STREAMLINE THE PROCESS THAT WOULD UM, BE VERY HELPFUL TO ME AND I'M SUPPOSED TO UH, SEVERAL OTHERS WHO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE TIMING ISSUE. YES. I CAN GET THAT TOGETHER AND FORWARD IT TO YOU. OK, THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. 
          IT'LL GO TO CONSENT CALENDAR THERE SINCE THERE WASN'T ANY CHANGES ON IT. UNLESS THE SPONSOR DECIDES THAT SHE WOULD LIKE IT TO GO TO OLD BUSINESS. CONSENT IS PERFECT. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO OUR DISCUSSION, PART OF THE OF THE PROGRAM FROM THE OFFICE OF PLANNING, UH, AND DESIGN FOR OUR PLANNING ANNUAL UPDATE. GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. IS THAT 
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TIME OF YEAR AGAIN, SO I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A PRESENTATION ON THE ANNUAL REPORT. BASICALLY WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE OFFICE OF PLANNING IN THE PREVIOUS YEARS? I HAVE TO WARN YOU. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF NUMBERS. SO PLEASE BEAR WITH ME. UM ACTUALLY , I I'M NOT SEEING THE SLIDES ON THE SCREEN. CAN YOU HELP ME WITH THAT, PLEASE? PERFECT. THANK YOU. I WILL START ACTUALLY WITH THIS COMMITTEE. SO THIS IS YOUR COMMITTEE, UH, METRO COUNCIL PLANNING ZONING COMMITTEE. I WANT TO COMPARE WHAT WE HAVE 2023 VERSUS 2022. SO 2023. THIS COMMITTEE MET 18 TIMES. UH THE PREVIOUS YEAR WAS 20 TIMES, HOWEVER, YOU DO SEE A LOT OF CASES. UH, WITHIN THE 18 MEETINGS. YOU SEE, UH, 9195 CASES. VERSUS 81, SO I GUESS YOU'RE MORE EFFICIENT LAST YEAR AND, UH, ALSO THE ZONING CASE YOU'VE SEEN, UH, INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY AS AS WELL, UM YOU REVIEWED 62 CASES IN 23 VERSUS 47 IN THE PREVIOUS YEARS. YOU ALSO, UH RE REVIEW DEVI DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THIS IS SOMETHING YOU CAN, UH, REQUEST UH, THE PLANNING SENT OVER THE REVISED DEVELOPMENT PLAN. WE JUST MENTIONED THAT SOME ARE ALSO THE BINDING ELEMENT ALSO TRIGGERS THIS. SO YOU SAME FOR ACTUALLY LAST YEAR. DECREASED UH FROM PREVIOUS YEARS. STREET CLOSURES. UH, YOU HAVE 10 CASES VERSUS EIGHT L CODE AMENDMENT ONLY ONE VERSUS FOUR LAST YEAR. 
          HOWEVER THIS ONE IS A BIG ONE. THIS IS A SHORT TERM RENTAL, UM, AMENDMENT, SO IT'S A HUGE ENDEAVOR. SO WE, UH, AMENDED A SHORT TERM RENT RENTAL REGULATION, NOT JUST A LAND CODE , BUT ALSO METRO CODE OF ORDINANCES AS UM SIGNIFICANT WORK. SO EVEN THOUGH ONE I THINK IT'S PROBABLY EQUAL TO FOUR LAST YEAR BEFORE, UH, YOU ALSO HAVE SEEN A COUPLE OF, UH NEIGHBORHOOD PLANTS. SO THE TWO NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN THAT YOU REVIEWED VERSUS ONE THE YEAR BEFORE YOU'VE SEEN EIGHT RESOLUTION ABOUT THE SAME NUMBER SEVEN LAST YEAR, AND YOU HAVE EIGHT ORDINANCES LAST YEAR. SO THAT'S THIS COMMITTEE. I'M ALSO GOING TO LOOK AT A MORE CLOSELY WITH OFFICE OR PLANNING DESIGN. THERE ARE A LOT OF WORK HAS BEEN DONE IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, ESPECIALLY LAST YEAR. WE CONTINUE TO DO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REFORM. THIS IS SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT TO THE CITY IS ACTUALLY ONE LEADING THE COUNTRY ON THE ZONING REFORM. 
          UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF MEETINGS. UH INCLUDING PUBLIC. UM YOU KNOW , UH, NOT JUST PUBLIC MEETING, BUT CONFERENCES. UH, RADIO, UH, SHOWS, UH, ROUND TABLE DISCUSSIONS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY AND ALSO AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL AS WELL. AND ONE OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS WE TRYING TO, UH, ENGAGE THE PUBLIC AS MENTAL HOUSING. AS WE TOOK ABOUT TWO YEARS NOT ONLY 2023, BUT ALSO 2022 TRYING TO ENGAGE THE PUBLIC ABOUT MIDDLE HOUSING. START WITH WHAT IS THE MIDDLE HOUSING? UH WHAT WE HAVE IN LOUISVILLE? SO WE HAD A TOUR. WE HAVE THE TOUR ALL AND ALSO PARK. 
          WELL UH, ON THE BUS, WE GO THERE AND JUST PHYSICALLY SEE THESE LITTLE HOUSE THAT EXISTED, MOST OF THEM EXISTED PRIOR. OWNING THAT BEFORE. 1940 1920 9030 PARKED WALL IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. SO THAT WAS A SPECIAL PROJECT. IT WAS A MIXED USE MIXED HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. AND WE ALSO HAD THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. WE HAD, UH MANY, UH, COMMITTEE MEETINGS. WE WENT TO THE COMMUNITY CALLED ZONING MATTER. THAT'S THE SECOND YEAR. UH, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO DO THAT THIS YEAR, SO WE HAD TOTAL 11 MEETING AT LIBRARIES ACROSS LU METRO. WE ALSO ESTABLISHED A DEDICATED, UH. WEB PAGE FOR MIDDLE HOUSING. SO IF YOU WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT MENTAL HOUSING, OR SOMEBODY IN YOUR DISTRICT WANT TO KNOW MORE? WE HAVE A WEBSITE. UH, ANOTHER THING THE I WOULD LIKE TO REALLY TALK ABOUT IS ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT. THIS IS A LAW PASSED ABOUT ALMOST THREE YEARS AGO IN JUNE OF 2021 METRO COUNCIL PASSED A LAW TO LEGALIZE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT BASICALLY, ALLOW IT BY RIGHT. IT WAS PRETTY CONTROVERSIAL AT THE TIME, A MATTER OF FACT, THREE YEARS HAVE PASSED. THE SKY HAS NOT FALLEN. EVERYTHING SEEMED TO BE WORKING FINE, AND WE WENT ACTUALLY ONE STEP FURTHER. SO LAST WE RECEIVED A GRANT. WE APPLY FOR A GRANT WITH HELP FROM SOME METRO COUNCIL MEMBERS. UH, WE GOT A GRANT. WE USED THE MONEY TO, UH, WE REQUEST A PROPOSAL FROM LOCAL ARCHITECTS. WE RECEIVE MORE THAN A DOZEN PROPOSALS. UH, WE 
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SELECTED 33 SETS OF PLAN WE PURCHASED THAT USE NET GRANT. WHAT THIS MEANS IS THAT THESE PURCHASE PLANS ARE PRE APPROVED. WE INVOLVE THE CONSTRUION BUILDING. UH, DEPARTMENT. WE INVOED THE HISTORIC PRERVATION. EVERYBODY REVIEW THESE ARE SOMETHING READY TO GO, BASICALLY. AND WHAT IS ALSO MORE IMPORTANT IS THAT THESE WILL BE FREE FOR EVERYBODY TO USE. SO IF YOU WANT TO BUILD ACCESS TO ONE UNIT IN YOUR BACKYARD, AND YOU WANT TO USE ONE OF THESE PLANT, THIS WILL BE FREE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO HIRE ARCHITECT TO SPEND EXTRA THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. 
          THESE ARE READY TO GO. UH, WE JUST USE IT AS ONE EXAMPLE. THIS KIND OF A TWO STORY, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE GARAGE ON THE FIRST FLOOR, THE ACCESSORY DWELLING YOU ALSO GRANNY FLAT MOTHER IN LAW'S WEIGHT. CARER'S HOUSE, THEIR DIFFERENT NAMES. UH WHAT IS GOOD ABOUT THIS PLAN IS THAT YOU CAN ALSO USE THIS ALONE. THE SECOND FLOOR CAN BE A STAND ALONE. UH UH, KIND OF A ONE STORY BUILDING. SO UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE FLOOR PLAN, IT'S VERY EFFICIENT. VERY INTERESTING. AND ALSO WE HAVE DONE TREMENDOUS WORK AROUND. UH, LANDMARK. UH, HISTORICAL PRESERVATION. THIS IS, UH, A COUPLE YEARS WORK. SO LAST YEAR, LANDMARK COMMISSION, UH, HELD THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS REVISION. THIS IS, UM WELL LAST REVISED IN THE 19 NINETIES, SO IT'S ALMOST 30 YEARS. SO THIS IS FOR THE FIRST TIME WITHIN THAT 30 YEAR TIME FRAME. WE START LOOKING AT IT AND REVISE THAT SO WE CAN CO WITH SOME SUSTAINABILITY ELEMENT, AND, UH, SOME OF THE TECHNOLOGY INTO THIS TOO. UM THIS HAS BEEN TRANSMITTED TO METRO COUNCIL ALREADY, UH, LATE LAST YEAR, SO I ASSUME IN THIS COMMITTEE WILL PROBABLY GONNA LOOK AT THIS IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. I HAVE TO SAY THAT THIS IS A HUGE DOCUMENT. SO WHAT? YOU DO IS WE'RE GONNA HAVE STAFF COME HERE AND MAKE A PRESENTATION. ONE MEETING GIVE YOU SOME TIME TO REVIEW IT AND THEN COME BACK. ASK YOU TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE FULL COUNCIL AT ANOTHER MEETING, SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN BE VERY FLEXIBLE. THERE'S NO RUSH FOR THIS ONE. UH AND ALSO SHORT TERM RENTAL THANKS TO A LOT OF METRO COUNCIL FOR YOUR REQUEST, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO UPDATE OUR METRO, UH, SHORT TERM RENTAL REGULATIONS AGAIN. THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THIS WAS, UH, UPDATED IN A MAJOR WAY. UM BASICALLY, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT THIS TIME IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER SHORT TERM RENTAL WITHIN 600 FT. THIS WILL REALLY TIGHTEN IT UP. IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET ANOTHER ONE, AND ALSO IT'S DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE TO. UH THERE'S A LOT OF LOOPHOLES. WE'RE TRYING TO CLOSE. FOR PEOPLE TO CHEAT ON THESE RENTALS. I THINK IT'S VERY SUCCESSFUL AS PART OF THE DISCUSSION. I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE METRO COUNCIL ALSO PROVIDED ONE DEDICATED PARTITION FOR THIS, WHICH IS HUGE, UH TO OUR OFFICE. IN THE PAST, WE JUST TAKE ON MORE AND MORE AND MORE AND, UH, AND THEN THE WAY WE DID IT THAT WE SPREAD THEM OUT AND ACTUALLY CREATED SOME INCONSISTENCY. NOW WE HAVE ONE PERSON DOING NOTHING BUT SHORT TERM RENTAL. UH, WE ALSO, UH, HAVE ANOTHER TEAM AND THE OFFICE OF PLANNING, UH, IS ADVANCED PLANNING. THEY HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK. THE TWO NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN I MENTIONED THAT WAS ADOPTED BY METRO COUNCIL. UH, ONE OF THE BAY TOWN NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN DISTRICT. 16 I, UH, DISTRICT 17. I'M SORRY. AND THE CLIFTON AND CRESCENT HILL AIRPLANE DISTRICT NINE. SO THOSE ARE THE TWO MAJOR NEIGHBOR PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED LAST YEAR. WE ALSO COORDINATING WITH THE LOCAL AND THE REGIONAL PLANNING AGENCY, CIA AND YOU HAVE $500,000 GRANT, UH, TO EXPLORE THE POSSIBILITY OF PASSENGER RAIL. YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN THIS IN THE NEWS, AND ALSO WE RECEIVED SEVERAL OTHER GRANTS AND DO A LOT OF CREATIVE THINGS, UH THROUGHOUT THE CITY. I ALSO LIKE TO SAY THAT WE ALSO HAVE TAKEN ON A LOT MORE RESPONSIBILITIES. ONE OF THEM IS OUR OFFICE STARTED LAST YEAR IN JANUARY LAST YEAR ABOUT A YEAR AGO STAED TO REVIEW BUILDING PERMITS. FROM THE PLANNING PERSPECTIVE. WE STILL HAVE THE CONSTRUCT REVIEW DEPARTMENT. THEY REVIEW THE BUILDING PERMIT AGAINST BUILDING CODE, BUT WHAT WE FIND IT I SOMETIME THERE'S MY MISTAKE BEING MADE. THE VANCE WAS SETBACKS OR THE BAY ELEMENTS THAT WAS NOT CAUGHT, UH, AT FIRST, SO WE STARTED REVIEWING ALL KINDS OF CONSTRUCTION PLANS, UH, STARTING LAST YEAR, AND ALSO LAST YEAR WE REVIEWED OUR FEE SCHEDULE. UH, I CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT LATER . BUT WE INCREASE THE FEE SCHEDULE. UH, INCREASE BY 20% AS METRO TAX SOUNDS A LOT. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT FROM 19 2019 TO 2023 WITHIN THAT, FOUR YEARS, THE, UH , JUST INFLATION ALONE INCREASED 20% SO WE'RE TRYING TO BE TIED THIS FEE INCREASE TO COST OF LIVING. UH, AND ALSO, STAFF HAVE , UH, CONTRIBUTE A LOT AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL. PRESENTING AT THE NATIONAL PLANNING CONFERENCES, BRING, UH, PLANNING 
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OFFICE, UH, TO, UH, THE NATIONAL LEVEL. THIS IS NOT I WOULD SAY ACCOMPLISHMENT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS. UH, THIS IS, UH, UNIT THREE PROFESSIONS PLANNING AS ONE OF THE PROFESSION DEAL WITH LAND USE. THERE'S OTHER WEB ARCHITECTS, LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS . SO LAST YEAR WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET ALL THREE GROUPS TOGETHER IN THE REGION AND WE HOSTED. UH, WHAT WE DID IS WE PICKED LIKE, UH, A SMALL SITE AND ASK THESE TALENTED, UM AND CREATIVE PEOPLE TO COME UP WITH. SO HOUSING SOLUTIONS. THE ONE ON THE LEFT IS LIKE ITS OWN. R FOUR AND R FIVE. THIS COMBINATION WHAT CAN YOU DO CURRENTLY? THAT'S WHERE YOU COME OUT WITH, LIKE LITTLE CURTO SAC. YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE SINGLE FAMILY. THAT'S ALL YOU CAN DO ACCOMMODATE, UH, ABOUT 10 OR 12 HOUSE HOUSING UNIT. THAT'S IT, BUT THEN WE ASK PEOPLE WHAT? JUST THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX. IF YOU DO NOT HAVE TO ABIDE BY OUR FOUR AND R FIVE. JUST THINK ABOUT CREATIVE LIFE. WHAT CAN YOU DO? WAS MIDDLE HOUSING. THEY WERE LIKE 78 DIFFERENT RENDERING THAT I CAN LOOK AT. THIS IS JUST SOME EXAMPLE. SO THERE'S VERY CREATIVE THINKING ABOUT PUTTING THROUGH THIS. YOU GENERATE SOME TIME, THREE TIMES THE NUMBER OF HOUSING UNIT JUST BY LOOKING AT CREATIVE WAYS TO DO THIS RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE THE MIDDLE HOUSING REGULATION, SO IT'S STILL PROHIBITED. UH, ANY, UH, LAND THAT'S OWN SINGLE FAMILY, BUT I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GREAT EXERCISE. I DON'T SAY THIS IS ACCOMPLISHMENT, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING IT'S VERY INTERESTING. TO SHOW YOU THAT UH, NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE NUMBERS. SO LAST YEAR, WE HAVE HIT THE RECORD IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS. UH, WE EXCEEDED 5000 TOTAL APPLICATION, JUST, UH , IN THE OFFICE OF PLANNING ALONE, UH, COMPARED TO 4600 LAST YEAR. UH, I WOULD SAY, UH, IT'S A TREMENDOUS BECAUSE WE DID NOT INCREASE OUR STAFF NUMBERS OTHER THAN A SHORT TERM RENTAL. UH, BASICALLY, JUST ASK PEOPLE TO DO MORE AND I WOULD REALLY ASK YOU ANY TIME YOU THINK ABOUT US PLANNING OFFICE TO A LITTLE BIT MORE THINK ABOUT IMPLICATION OF FUNDING IS THIS FUNDED MONDAY? IS THAT NOT FUNDED. I APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL. AND THIS IS A TOTAL APPLICATION. I WANT TO SHOW UH, THE LAST 11 YEARS I STARTED TRACK 2013. BY THE WAY. THAT'S THE YEAR I BECAME DIRECTOR. I LIKE NUMBERS. I START TRACK NUMBERS. I START REVIEW THEM, ANALYZE THEM. HOPEFULLY GIVE ME SOME TRENDS AND FUTURE. UM YOU KNOW, IMPLICATIONS OF WHAT WE CAN PLAN FOR THE FUTURE. SO THIS IS FROM 2013. WE TRACK 11 YEARS AS YOU CAN SEE OUR WORKLOAD. UM IS MORE THAN DOUBLED, UH, FROM DURING THAT TIME FRAME. THAT REMAINED RELATIVE THE SAME, UH, 2013. WE JUST CAME OUT OF THE GREAT RECESSION, SO WE'RE STILL VERY LOW. UH 18 ABOUT 1800 CASES THIS LAST YEAR WE HIT OVER 5000 DIFFERENT ONE. WE ALSO TAKE ON MORE WORK. WE DIDN'T HAVE CERTAIN RENTAL BEFORE, BUT WE KNOW THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY. THE CITY WANT TO EMBRACE WHAT RENTAL AT THE SAME TIME. WANT TO ATTACK NEIGHBORHOOD? I THOUGHT OUR CITY FIND A PERFECT UM, BALANCE ON THAT VERY PROUD OF WORK AND OUR STAFF WORK AS WELL. WE ALSO TAKE ON THE SIGN PERMIT USED TO BE IN THE CONSTRUCTION REVIEW. UH SO WE TOOK THOSE, UH, WE TOOK OUT A LOT OF PROJECT. I'M VERY PROUD OF THAT. BUT THE SAME TIME IT'S PRETTY BUSY. I THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO MANAGE THIS BY INCREASING EFFICIENCY. I KNOW A LOT OF CREATIVE, INNOVATIVE WORK , UH, TO ACCOMMODATE ADDITIONAL, UH, WORKLOAD AND ALSO, I'M VERY PROUD DURING THAT TIME FRAME. OUR REVENUE IS MORE THAN TRIPLED. THIS IS SOMETHING I FEEL, UH, EVERY YEAR. IT'S JUST, UM MAKE ME FEEL VERY HAPPY WILL BE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE TO HELP THE BUDGET A LITTLE BIT. UM AS YOU CAN SEE, UM THERE'S TWO REASONS FOR THE REVENUE TO INCREASE FIRST AS THE CASES THEY INCREASE, UH, NUMBER OF CASES INCREASE. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE REVENUE. THE OTHER ONE AS MENTIONED EARLIER, WE DID INCREASE THE FEE SO PRIOR TO 2013 FOR LIKE 15 YEAR, WE DID NOT EVEN LOOK AT THE FEE SCHEDULE. BUT SINCE 2013 EVERY TWO YEAR BASICALLY, LOOK AT THE FEE SCHEDULE, SAY, HEY, DO WE NEED TO MAKE ADJUSTMENT FOR COST OF LIVING AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING, SO THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT ONE IS INCREASE IN CASE LOAD. THE OTHER ONE IS INCREASE IN FEE . UH SO WE'RE WE'RE PROUD THAT WE TRIPLED THE REVENUE DURING THE LAST 11 YEARS. AND THESE ARE JUST GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE MEETING LENS, THE NUMBER OF, UH, YOU KNOW, MEETINGS FOR PLANNING COMMISSION , BORDER ZONING ADJUSTMENT. THE COMMITTEES I DO WOULD LIKE TO USE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK OUR BOARD COMMISSION AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS. THEY ARE VOLUNTEERS. LOOK AT HOW MUCH 
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HOUR LIKE BORDER ZONE ADJUSTMENT . EACH MEETING IS ALMOST FIVE HOURS AND THEY HAD 26 LAST YEAR, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THESE ARE VOLUNTEERS. THEY, UH SET UH, YOU KNOW THEIR PERSONAL, UH, THINGS ASIDE, THEY COME TO THE MEETING. NOT ONLY THAT THEY ALSO HAVE TO REVIEW UH, THE DOCUMENT THE CASES A LOT OF TIME . THEY ALSO HAVE TO ON SITE TO CHECK ON THEM. SO IF YOU HAVE A BOARD AND COMMISSION MEMBER IN YOUR DISTRICT, MAKE SURE YOU THANK THEM ON A REGULAR BASIS. 
          AH, THIS IS THE BORDER ZONE ADJUSTMENT CASES. UM UH, THE LAST FEW YEARS WAS A LITTLE LOW THIS YEAR. UH, 2023 WAS PRETTY HIGH. IT'S ALMOST, UH, SAME LEVEL AS 2019. I WANT TO SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY, YOU KNOW THE BORDER ZONE. THEY APPROVE EVERYTHING. THEY DON'T ADDRESS OUR CONCERN, WHICH IS NOT TRUE. UH, SOME OF THESE ARE, UH, LIKE MODIFIED VARIANT. IT'S VERY SIMPLE. UH, YOU GET APPROVED, BUT CONDITIONAL PERMIT 71 I GOT APPROVED BY 26 ACTUALLY GOT DENIED. SO THEY DO. LOOK AT CLOSELY. THEY DO. LISTEN TO ALL PARTIES. UH, EVERY INTEREST THEY WILL CONSIDER THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY IS A BODY OF SEVEN PEOPLE. THEY WOULD, UM, MAKE A DECISION AS UH, AS A WHOLE. THIS IS A PLANNING COMMISSION. UH, DO ITEMS AND THIS IS TYPE OF CASES VERY SIMILAR. THEY HAVE 61 ZONING REZONING CASES. UH THOSE CASES WERE FORWARDED TO YOU AND HAS STRICT CLOSURE THAT FORWARD TO YOU. WAIVERS YOU STAY WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION RISE PLANS, UH, FOR FOUR OF THE SIX WILL FORWARD TO YOU AS WELL. AND VARIOUS IS MOSTLY STAY WITH THE PLANET COMMISSION. HOWEVER UM, JEFFERSON COUNT ALSO HAVE THEIR OWN, UH, BORDER ZONE ADJUSTMENT. 
          THEY CAN REVIEW VARIANCES SOME WAIVERS AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, SO THIS IS A KIND OF WORKLOAD OF THE PLANNING. UH THIS IS KIND OF A ANOTHER LEVEL OF DIFFERENT NUMBERS. SO LAST YEAR, UH, YOU KNOW, THROUGH OUR OFFICE, INCLUDING BORDER ZONE ADJUSTMENT, MOSTLY PLANNING COMMER, EVENTUALLY METRO COUNCIL A TOTAL OF 8000 SORRY, 4847. UNIT WE, UH APPROVED. MOST OF THEM ARE MULTI FAMILY. A SMALL PART OF THAT ARE SINGLE FAMILY AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT'S PROBABLY AVERAGE 2021 WILL HAVE BIG SPIKE . THAT'S BECAUSE THE YEAR BEFORE WAS PANDEMIC. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE NOT MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT YEAR, BUT THEY'RE TRYING TO CATCH UP THE YEAR. UH, WE MEASURE DEVELOPMENT IN TERMS OF HOUSING NUMBER OF UNITS. THAT'S WHY I SAY DO ONE UNITS. WE WILL MEASURE NON RESIDENTIAL. WE USE SQUARE FEET. SO THIS IS A SQUARE FEET DEVELOPMENT. UH, IT'S ALL OVER. THE PLACE. AS YOU CAN SEE, LAST YEAR WAS A LITTLE LOW COMPARED TO SOME OF THE FORMER YEARS THERE WAS ONE YEAR WAS REALLY BIG 2020 16. I REMEMBER THERE WAS ONE PROJECT THAT ONE PROJECT ALONE IS 4 MILLION SQUARE FEET. THAT'S WHY IT'S SO HIGH. AND WE ALSO HAVE AN URBAN DESIGN TEAM. WE HAVE URBAN DESIGN HISTORIC PRESERVATION TEAM. IT'S VERY SMALL TEAM, BUT THEY ARE DOING A LOT OF WORK. BY THE WAY ALL THE URBAN DESIGN AND HIS PRICE WITH CASES WE DON'T CHARGE A FEE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S EASIER FOR SMALL PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, TO COME IN WITH COMPLIANCE. WHATEVER THEY DO WANT TO HELP THEM. UH SO WE, UH, HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK LAST YEAR IN URBAN DESIGN, HISTORIC PRESERVATION AREA AS WELL. UH I DO LIKE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ZONING ENFORCEMENT. I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING WE WORK CLOSELY WITH YOU ALL EVERY METRO COUNCIL DISTRICT SOME. WE HAVE SOME ZONING FOR ME. I GOT A LOT OF CALLS FROM YOU. UM AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR, UH, GIVING US A LITTLE BIT MORE RESOURCE ON THIS. THE TEAM HAVE DOUBLED DURING THE LAST 11 YEARS . WE USED TO HAVE TWO OFFICERS. NOW WE HAVE FOUR, WHICH WILL INCREASE SOME ADMINISTRATIVE CAPACITY AS WELL AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, FROM THESE CHARTS. IT DOES REFLECT INCREASED CAPACITY AND INCREASED ACTIVITY AS WELL. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UH TO EMPHASIZE IS A DEFINES THAT WE COLLECTED, SAY, 2019. WE ONLY COLLECTED SEVEN A LITTLE OVER 7000. BUT LAST YEAR WE COLLECTED 95,000 MORE THAN 10 FOLD. UH SO WE HAVE REALLY BE UP THE, UH, ENFORCEMENT SIDE. NOT ONLY WE SEND OUT MORE CITATION, WE ALSO COLLECTED MORE, UH, FINDS, UH, FOR THE METRO GOVERNMENT. SO WHAT ABOUT THIS NEW YEAR? UH THERE'S LOTS GOING ON AS WE SPEAK. UH, AS I MENTIONED, WE HAVE DONE TWO YEARS WORTH OF MIDDLE HOUSING, PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT WHERE WE CLOSE OF GETTING THAT FINAL DRAFT. UH WE PROBABLY GONNA RELEASE THAT IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. UM WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THIS COMMITTEE AND POSSIBLY WITH AN AD HOC L DC COMMITTEE TO PRESENT MIDDLE HOUSING AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AND EDUCATION IS 
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ALSO PART OF THAT AS WELL. ALSO IN THE PROCESS OF UPDATING FACTORY BUILT HOUSING. THESE INCLUDING MANUFACTURE HOUSING AND THEN MODULAR HOUSING, SO WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF REVIEWING OUR REGULATION ABOUT THAT TO SEE IF THERE'S BARRIER THAT WE NEED TO REVIEW UH AND REMOVE SO THE RECOMMENDATION EVENTUALLY WILL GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN COME TO YOUR BODY FOR FINAL APPROVAL AND ALSO AS PART OF THE ZONING REFORM IN ADDITION TO HOUSING, WE ALSO IDENTIFIED ENVIRONMENTAL, JUST JUSTICE. ISSUE THIS YEAR. WE'RE GOING TO START LOOKING AT THAT AS WELL. ANOTHER PROJECT IS M HOUSING, PRIORITY LAND USE MAP. 
          I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, IN A SECOND HISTORIC PRESERVATION URBAN DESIGN WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THEIR UPDATE OF THEIR GUIDELINES . UH, THIS YEAR. UH, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THERE AS WELL. SO THIS YEAR WE'RE GOING TO AS I MENTIONED THAT WE STARTED TWO YEARS AGO. PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. WE GOT A GREAT IDEA FROM THE COMMUNITY DURING THAT TWO YEARS. 
          UH, SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A AND THEN WORKING WITH METRO COUNCIL REVIEWING THAT, SO, UH, IT'S WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT, UH, A LOT OF YOU PROBABLY HEARD ME AND SOME OF MY STAFF TALKING AT MIDDLE HOUSING FOR A LONG TIME. THIS IS DEFINITION. WE'RE ALSO CREATED A, UH MIDDLE HOUSING. WEBSITE AS A MATTER OF FACT, I THINK THURSDAY AT AD HOC LAND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, WE'RE GONNA TALK, UH, KIND OF INTRODUCE A CONCEPT. WHAT IS THE MENTAL HOUSING? WHAT DO WE HAVE IN LIEU? WE HAVE A LOT OF MIDDLE HOUSING, ACTUALLY. RIGHT HERE PRIOR TO ZONING WHY WE DON'T HAVE THE ZONING BECAUSE IT'S ILLEGAL TO BUILD THEM RIGHT NOW. AND THAT IS WHY WE NEED TO LOOK AT OUR REGULATION TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO BUILD ME HOUSING. THE THING ABOUT MIDDLE HOUSING IS REALLY, REALLY SUPPORT SMALL DEVELOPERS, YOU KNOW? LOCAL DEVELOPER TO JUMP IN TO BE PART OF THAT PROFESSION TO OFFER SERVICES COULD BE THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY LIVE. THEY THEY LIVE. YOU KNOW THE DEVELOPER LIVE, SO THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK WE REALLY LIKE TO LOOK AT CLOSELY THIS YEAR. THE OTHER THING I MENTIONED EARLIER WE ARE LOOKING AT IS, UH , MIXED USE MIXED HOUSING. UH THIS IS, UH, A VERY DRY FORMAT WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT. 
          SO WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE PUBLIC TO. UM, UH, TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. UH, FIRST, SO LAST MONTH, WE HAVE A DRAFT RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC. WE HOSTED SEVERAL PUBLIC MEETINGS VERY WELL RECEIVED. 
          PEOPLE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. WE ENGAGE THE PUBLIC EARLY ON, SO IT'S STILL ABOUT MIDWAY THROUGH THAT PROJECT. UH, WE GOT A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY. WE'RE GOING TO USE THAT FEEDBACK TO REFINE, UH, THIS MAP AND THEN WE'LL UH UH, FINALIZE THAT IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. SO THIS IS SOMETHING AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S NOT JUST CONCENTRATING IN ONE TO AREA IS KIND OF DISTRIBUTES THROUGHOUT THE JEFFERSON COUNTY, WHICH WE REALLY NEED. UH, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE ANCHORS WHERE THE CENTERS AND THEN THE SURROUNDING AREA HOW WE CAN ALLOW MIDDLE HOUSING MAKES USE MIXED HOUSING IN THIS AREAS. THERE'S QUITE A FEW ARTICLES ABOUT THIS PROJECT. UH SO I PUT SOME LINK IN HERE. YOU CAN LOOK AT IT A LITTLE BIT MORE. AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. UH, THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE'LL DO AGAIN THIS YEAR. UH WE CAUGHT ZONING MATTERS BECAUSE BASICALLY OUR PLANNERS WILL GO TO THE COMMUNITY, MOSTLY AT THE LIBRARY SO THAT IT'S EASIER FOR THE PUBLIC TO COME AND TO WORK WITH US TO ASK A QUESTION TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR OFFICE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, LEARN HOW TO GET THROUGH THE ZONING AND ALL THOSE QUESTIONS AS A MATTER OF FACT. YEAH. THIS AFTERNOON IN ABOUT AN HOUR FROM 3 TO 71 OF OUR A COUPLE OF OUR STAFF WILL GO TO SOUTHWEST REGIONAL LIBRARY AND THEY WILL HOST UH, A ZONING MATTER CONVERSATION RIGHT THERE, AND THERE'S A LOT OF THEM THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, SO I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. IF YOU CAN INCLUDE THIS IN A NEWSLETTER AND GET THE WORD OUT FOR US. WAS THAT I WOULD, UH, ENTERTAIN SOME QUESTIONS. FIRST IN THE Q IS COUNCILMAN INGLE. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I HAVE TO TELL YOU. THAT WAS ABSOLUTELY AN INCREDIBLE PRESENTATION. AND I MEAN THAT SINCERELY AND THAT AND MADAM CHAIR IN THE INTEREST OF FULL DISCLOSURE. I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING LATE. I JUST I HATE BEING LATE AND I ONCE AGAIN I HAD THE FERN CREEK CHAMBER OF COMMERCE MEETING TODAY OF WHICH I DID A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION. AND THE ONLY REASON I BRING THAT UP IS IT REALLY IS INTERESTING. HOW YOU ACTUALLY CAN CAPTURE ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING ON A PRESENTATION, WHICH WE ARE LIVING FAST, FAST. TRACK LIFE HERE AT THE COUNCIL WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO DO OTHER JOBS AND WHATEVER, BUT I BRING THAT UP ONLY BECAUSE I HAVE TO COMMENT THAT THAT WAS AN AMAZING PRESENTATION. NOW I JUST 
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COMMENTED MY COLLEAGUE, COUNCILMAN OWEN HERE A LITTLE WHILE AGO I SAID, DID I SEE THAT RIGHT? SHE WENT A LITTLE QUICK, NOT AS PERFECT BUT CHECK THIS OUT. SO WE WENT FROM LIKE 4600 TRANSACTIONS. TO OVER 5000. IT'S LIKE A ROUGHLY A 10% IN MY TAKE A CAT A CALCULATOR OUT, BUT YET WE TRIPLED OUR REVENUE. IN FOR AN INCREASE OF 10 PER. THAT'S STUNNING TO ME, HONESTLY. SO I HAVE BEEN HERE IN MADAM CHAIR. YOU CAN REALLY YOU CAN RELATE WHERE THIS FINE LADY SAT BACK AND JUST SORT OF TOOK IT FROM US IF YOU WILL A LOT OF PAINFUL ISSUES. I MEAN, I GO BACK. I JUST MADE A NOTE. I GO BACK TO THE SMOKING BAN. NO, I DON'T. SHE MAY NOT HAVE BETTER, BUT I MEAN ACCESSORY DWELLING. SHORT-TERM RENTALS ANYTHING NEW. THAT'S COME TO OUR DISTRICT. WE START TO GET NERVOUS, DON'T WE? SHORT TERM RENTALS. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? I MEAN, REMEMBER THOSE DAYS AND SO, I? I JUST WANTED TO REALLY TAKE A SECOND AND I HEARD HER SAY THANK YOU TO THE COUNCIL. I THINK AT LEAST THREE TIMES I MAY BE WRONG. BUT WHEN IS IT THAT WE HAVE SAID THANK YOU TO YOU. SO I WANNA DO THAT TODAY, SO I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR UH, HOW YOU YOU KNOW, YOU HEARD CATS OF ALL OF US, 26 OF US. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO THAT. BUT YOU DO SO, UM, I THINK THAT COVERS ALL MY NOTES. UM, BUT IT AND OUR OUR PLANNERS THEY GET BEAT UP RELENTLESSLY AT THESE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS INTO THE EVENING TO 12 MIDNIGHT, ONE O'CLOCK TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, AND THAT'S NOT UNUSUAL. IN A HOT TOPIC, SO PLEASE PASS ON TO YOUR DEPARTMENT AND EVERYBODY IN THE PLANT WITH THE PLANNING STAFF. THANK YOU FROM THE METRO COUNCIL. AS MATTER OF FACT, I WOULD LIKE TO USE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK MY TALENTED STAFF, ALL 50 OF THEM. FOR THEIR DEDICATION TO PUBLIC SERVICE. I MAY BE HERE AND THERE TO PRESENT A COMP ACCOMPLISHMENT THE DEPARTMENT HAS ACHIEVED. IT IS MY STAFF WHO WORKED TIRELESSLY BEHIND THE SCENES THAT MAKE ALL OF THIS POSSIBLE. THEY ARE THE ONE WHO TRULY DESERVE THE CREDIT. COUNCIL, MANGO THANK YOU EVEN THIS PRESENTATION. SLICE. ARE PREPARED BY THEM. SO THANK YOU. I WANT TO KNOW WHO THE TRUE HEROES ARE HERE. I'M JUST ONE OF THE STAFF MEMBER HERE. BUT THERE ARE A LOT 50 OF THEM WORK TIRELESSLY FOR THE CITY, AND SOMETIMES THEY DON'T GET SICK ENOUGH, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO THIS USE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK THEM. THANK YOU CHAIR. SO COUNCILMAN INGLES KIND OF STOLE MY THUNDER. JUST A LITTLE BIT. UM DIRECTOR LIU IS GOING TO BE RETIRING HERE IN VERY SHORT ORDER AND I HA! HAVING BEEN A PERSON WHO IS INVOLVED IN PLANNING ISSUES AND READING POLICY ABOUT WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING. I'M NOT SURE ALL OF OUR COLLEAGUES UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH TIME SHE SPENDS ON WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE DOING. WHAT'S WORKING WHAT'S NOT WORKING WHAT WE NEED TO BRING TO LOUISVILLE BECAUSE IT DOES WORK ALL OF THOSE BEST PRACTICES THAT ARE HAPPENING. DIRECTOR LIU HAS BEEN ON THE FRONT EDGE OF ALL OF THOSE THINGS. AND WHILE IT'S ALWAYS TOUGH SLEDDING WHEN YOU BRING NEW IDEAS TO THE COMMUNITY , UM SHE HAS BEEN WILLING TO LEAD THAT CHARGE. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. UM AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO PUSH THOSE THINGS FORWARD. ONCE YOU HAVE RETIRED, AND SOMEONE ELSE IS SITTING IN YOUR CHAIR, BUT I DO REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE HOW FORWARD LOOKING, YOU HAVE BEEN AND HOW MUCH YOU HAVE PUSHED THIS DEPARTMENT FORWARD SINCE YOU'VE BEEN HERE. SO I WANTED TO SAY THAT, UM, BUT THEN I ALSO WANTED TO ASK YOU ABOUT WHETHER YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH I. I THINK IT'S A HOUSE BILL. I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER THAT WAS FILED RECENTLY THAT WOULD ROLL BACK. MANY OF THE REGULATIONS THAT WE'VE PUT IN PLACE RELATED TO SHORT TERM RENTALS AT THE STATE LEVEL. ARE YOU ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THAT WITH THAT LEGISLATION, AND I WAS WONDERING IF YOU ARE WHAT? WHAT YOUR KIND OF TAKE ON THAT IS UH, I. I DO. UM THERE'S MORE THAN SORT OF RENTAL I, I I'VE SEEN SOME LIKE ASSOCIATE WITH, UH, ACCESSOR DWELLING UNIT THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD DIRECTION AND THEN SOME MIDDLE HOUSING THAT I THINK THE CERTAIN RENTAL REGULATION THAT WE PUT TOGETHER TOGETHER LIKE STAFF AND METRO COUNCIL IS REALLY REALLY THE BEST. AND I THINK, UH, IT KIND OF A BALANCING THE ALLOWING SHORT RENTAL AT THE SAME TIME PROTECTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD, 
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WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT PROTECTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S IMPORTANT, I THINK, UH, THAT SOMETHING THERE. I DISAGREE WITH, UH, ABOUT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE. UM, BUT I THINK, UH, I HOPE, UH, THEY WILL ALLOW US TO KEEP THE REGULATION WE HAVE CURRENTLY ON THE BOOK. I JUST WANT TO INTERJECT RIGHT THERE WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE STATE, AND I'M NOT GOING TO USE ANY NAMES, BUT BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE ONCE WAS A STATE LAW PASSED BECAUSE OF A LAW THAT THE METRO COUNCIL PASSED IN REGARDS TO HOBBY CARS. AND THE SPONSOR. UM WAS, YOU KNOW OH, THIS IS THE BEST THING SINCE SLICED BREAD. WE KNEW IT WASN'T BECAUSE WE KNEW THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE WITH JUNK CARS AND LOW AND BEHOLD, WHO WOULD CALL IP L BECAUSE OF A JUNK CAR. BUT THAT STATE LEGISLATOR AND IT WAS REPLIED TO THIS PERSON. YOU SPONSOR THE LAW. THERE'S NOT A THING THE CITY OF LOUISVILLE CAN DO ABOUT IT. YOU YOU'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT UNTIL THE STATE REVOKES THAT LAW. SO I'M JUST SAYING. WELL ON THAT ON THAT NOTE. UH, I WOULD SO ON A COUPLE OF THINGS NUMBER ONE, IF, IF LAND USE IN A COMMUNITY IS NOT A LOCAL ISSUE THAT SHOULD BE DECIDED LOCALLY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS, UM, SO AS IT RELATES TO BOTH THIS SHORT TERM RENTAL REVOCATION THAT'S BEEN FILED AND THE SOURCE OF INCOME DISCRIMINATION BAN THAT WAS JUST PASSED DESPITE THE FACT THAT ALL 26 OF US VOTED FOR IT 26 TO NOTHING. I WOULD ASK MY REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES TO REACH OUT TO OUR STATE LEGISLATURE AND SAY, LISTEN IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DECIDE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO HERE LOCALLY, IF YOU GUYS ARE GONNA OVERTURN EVERY SINGLE THING WE DO, ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO LAND USE WHAT? WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? WHY ARE WE HERE? IF THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING AT THE STATE LEGISLATION, I DON'T THINK A GUY THAT LIVES IN A RURAL AREA OUTSIDE OF LEXINGTON SHOULD BE TELLING US HOW MANY STA UH, SHORT TERM RENTALS WE SHOULD HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY. GO TALK TO MY CONSTITUENTS IN ROCK CREEK RIGHT NOW GO TALK TO MY CONSTITUENTS IN ON BEALS BRANCH RIGHT NOW ABOUT SHORT TERM RENTALS, AND HE'LL GET AN ABSOLUTE FEARFUL. AND SO I WOULD LOVE FOR. I CAN GO UP THERE AND THEY WON'T LISTEN TO A WORD I SAID, BUT SAY BECAUSE OF THE LETTER. I HAVE NEXT TO MY NAME. 
          BUT YOU GUYS CAN REACH OUT TO HIM AND SAY THIS IS NOT HOW THIS IS SUPPOSED TO WORK. SO SORRY ABOUT THAT SOAPBOX. UM THE LAST THING I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS IN OUR AD HOC LAND USE COMMITTEE. 
          WE ARE GOING TO BE REVIEWING A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT DIRECTOR LIU TALKED ABOUT. UM SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT, UM, BECAUSE I THINK THEY ARE ALL THINGS THAT THAT CAN HELP ADDRESS. UH, WHEN THIS NEW HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT COMES OUT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. I THINK WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE SHOCKED BY WHAT IT SAYS. I MEAN, THE LAST ONE SAID WE WERE 30,000 UNITS IN DEFICIT AND I EXPECT THAT IT'S GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN THAT. FOR ME. THAT IS THE PRIMARY PURPOSE OF THIS LAND OF THIS AD HOC LAND USE COMMITTEE IS WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT . HOW CAN WE ADDRESS THAT PROBLEM? AND HOW CAN WE FIX THAT ? VERY SPECIFICALLY WITH 2345 THINGS? I DON'T WANT TO GET BOGGED DOWN IN 100 DIFFERENT THINGS, SO WE NEED TO FOCUS ON 2345 DIFFERENT THINGS. FROM A LAND USE. UH PERSPECTIVE AND FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE WHERE WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE ADDRESS THAT DEFICIT THAT'S GOING TO BE IT'S GONNA BE SHOWN IN THIS HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER INGLE. YEAH. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR JUST REAL QUICK. I AND I'M I'M I'M WITH YOU, II. I HEAR COUNCILMAN AND I MEAN, WE WATCH WITH THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OPERATE FOR YEARS. OBVIOUSLY IN CERTAIN ISSUES YOU DON'T AGREE WITH AND THIS AND THE NEXT THING BUT LET LET'S NOT FORGET THAT THE THAT THERE'S MORE THAN JUST RURAL LEGISLATORS THAT VOTE ON LEGISLATION. WE DO ACTUALLY HAVE A JEFFERSON COUNTY DELEGATION THAT THAT DOES UNDERSTAND AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. SOMETIMES WE GET A LITTLE FRUSTRATED EVEN WITH OUR OWN FRIENDS ON THE JEFFERSON COUNTY DELEGATION, RIGHT, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT? THAT'S WHY A LOT OF TIMES WE ALWAYS RECOMMEND HAVE YOU TALKED TO YOUR LOCAL LEGISLATOR? LIKE HAVE YOU GOTTEN TOGETHER WITH YOUR FRIENDS ON THE LEGISLATURE LATELY? ARE YOU IN TOUCH WITH YOUR YOUR STATE? REP YOUR STATE SENATOR. UM, IN THAT WAY, THEY KNOW WHERE YOU STAND. 
          SO I DON'T THINK IT'S A DEAD END. UH UH. REMIND UH, NOT. I'M NOT TRYING TO BE SNOTTY HERE. 
          BUT I'D REMIND MY COLLEAGUE THAT THAT THE HIGHEST OFFICE OF THE LAND IS THE GOVERNOR OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF KENTUCKY, AND HE'S A DEMOCRAT. SO YOU'VE GOT THAT OFFICE AND THERE'S PLENTY OF DEMOCRATS. NOT NOT AS MANY AS THERE USED TO BE. BUT THERE'S STILL THE HIGHEST OFFICE OF THE LAND IN FRANKFURT AND THE HIGHEST OFFICE OF THE LAND IN LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY. WITH AD BEHIND THEIR NAME, SO IT IS NOT A DEAD END TO FOR DIALOGUE. SO WE'RE ON. WE'RE ON THE SAME TEAM. WE ALL LOVE OUR COMMUNITY. WE HAVE JEFFERSON COUNTY DELEGATION THAT IS VERY MUCH 
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ENGAGED. SOMETIMES YOU WONDER HOW ENGAGED BUT WE DO LIVE IN THE STATE OF KENTUCKY. AND. 
          THERE ARE ELECTIONS, AND WE HAVE RURAL LEGISLATORS THAT HAVE THEIR OWN. AGENDA AND WE HAVE OURS. SO IT'S NOT A DEAD END. COUNCILMAN I KNOW THAT. LIKE I SAID, I'VE WATCHED THE FRUSTRATION OVER OVER TIME. BUT YOU HAVE MY WORD THAT I TALKED TO COUNCILMAN OR EXCUSE ME STATE . REP BRATCHER WHO ACTUALLY MIGHT BE SITTING IN THAT CHAIR, UM AND ALSO UH, STATE. REP JOSIE , THAT WILL PROBABLY BE SITTING IN THAT CHAIR. SO YOU GOT TWO STATE REPS THAT ARE COMING TO THE COUNCIL THAT YOU CAN REALLY START TO TALK TO EVEN CLOSER. SO THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. JUST THOUGHT I'D SHOW THAT COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL. THANK YOU. I'LL MAKE IT SHORT AND SWEET HOPEFULLY, BUT AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THAT'S PROBABLY YOUR LAST ANNUAL REPORT BECAUSE OF YOUR RETIREMENT, AND I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH, UM, FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR THE CITY OF LOUISVILLE AND FOR METRO COUNCIL AND FOR STAFF AND EVERYTHING PLANNING, UM CENTRIC, UM. WITH ONLY ONE L DC AMENDMENT THAT WAS MADE IN 2003. I THINK THAT THAT SETS A PRETTY LOW BAR FOR COUNCILMAN OWEN TO GET METRO COUNCIL TO WORK WITH HIS NEW AD HOC COMMITTEE. SO I'M EXCITED TO BE A PART OF THAT, AND I BELIEVE OUR FIRST MEETING KICKS OFF THIS THURSDAY AND I DID WANNA ECHO WHAT COUNCILMAN INGLE SAID ABOUT THE PRESENTATION, UM, BEING SO WONDERFUL BECAUSE THE PRESENTATION AND THE WORK THAT YOUR TEAM IS DOING IS PROACTIVE INSTEAD OF REACTIVE. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT LOUISVILLE HAS BEEN MISSING FOR A VERY, VERY LONG TIME. AND SO I'M VERY EXCITED FOR THE WORK THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING AND CONTINUE TO DO. AND I HOPE THAT WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT CAN STEP INTO THE SHOES THAT YOU HAVE, UM, LAID FORTH. SO THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU ALL DURING BUDGET SEASON. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CHAPPEL. WELL, YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL, EMILY . WE'VE WORKED TOGETHER FOR A LOT OF YEARS NOW AND YOU KNOW, WE'VE AS A COUNCIL. SOMETIMES WE FORGET THAT WE NEED TO ASK DEPARTMENT HEADS. HOW MUCH STUFF CAN WE THROW AT YOU AND REALLY, REALISTICALLY EXPECT YOU TO GET IT DONE. YOUR DEPARTMENT IS ONE OF THE DEPARTMENTS WHO HAVE WORKED. MORE WITH LESS. BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A CONSTANT. WE ALL KNOW THAT PLANNERS COME TO THE CITY OF LOUISVILLE TO GET THEIR EXPERIENCE, AND IT ISN'T SIX MONTHS TO 10. MONTHS LATER, THEY'RE SUCKED UP BY THE PRIVATE INDUSTRY BECAUSE THEY HAVE SUCH A GREAT EDUCATION, UH, WORKING OVER THERE WITH, UH, YOU AND YOUR YOUR TEAM. UM AND I THINK IN THIS PRESENTATION FOLKS, THE ONES THAT SHE BRINGS TO ME WHEN WE'RE JUST STARTING TO DEAL WITH THESE IDEAS. ARE EXACTLY THE SAME THING AS YOU'RE GETTING NOW, SO IT'S JUST NOT A ONE TIME A YEAR OR ONE TIME PHASE. SHE CONSTANTLY DOES THAT AND HAS DONE THAT EVER SINCE. I'VE BEEN HERE AND EVER SINCE YOU'VE BEEN HERE AND I THANK YOU FOR, UM YOUR GUIDANCE ON EVERYTHING I CAN SAY YOU HAVE NEVER LED ME WRONG. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND THANK YOU TO YOUR TEAM. THEY'RE A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH. ANY OTHER COMMENTS. SEE NO, THIS COMMITTEE WILL STAND ADJOURNED UNLESS THERE'S AN OBJECTION HEARING. NONE WERE.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.