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COUNCILWOMAN DONALD PURVIS. I'M THE CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE. WE HAVE AN EXCUSE ABSENCE TODAY[Roll Call]
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FROM THE CO CHAIR REITMAN EAGLE WE HAVE IN THE CHAMBERS COUNCILWOMAN. FLOOD COUNCILWOMAN RUI TODAY WE ARE HAVING A DISCUSSION, SO THEREFORE QUORUM IS NOT NECESSARY. AND TODAY WE[1. ID 24-0052 SPEED HUMP PROCESS – Jennifer Kern and Greg Dow, Public Works]
HAVE BEEN, UM, TODAY WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS SPEED HUMPS. WE'VE BEEN BLESSED WITH THE PRESENCE OF OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, JENNIFER KERN AND GREGORY. DOWN A MISTAKE. MY CULTURE IS NO LONGER ROBIN ENGEL IS ANTHONY PILGRIM, TEENY. SORRY. HE'S HERE . HE'S HERE. DON'T DO IT AGAIN.OKAY AND THEN WE'RE ALSO JOINED BY COUNCILMAN BRENT ACKERSON. UM SO TODAY WE'RE GONNA BE DISCUSSING SPEED HUMPS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE PUBLIC KNOWS THE PROCESS. UM SPEED HUMPS, AND SO WHO COULD BETTER TELL US, THEN PUBLIC WORKS PEOPLE. SO UM, MS KAREN, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY TO SPEAK GO AT IT. THANK YOU. OKAY. IT IS ON UM, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US TODAY. JENNIFER THOMAS, OUR CURRENT DIRECTOR OF METRO PUBLIC WORKS I'VE GOT JEFF BROWN, OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR WITH ENGINEERING AND STACY KEITH WITH OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERING MANAGEMENT AND GREG DOW WITH SPEED HUMPS JOINING TODAY, SO. OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS. WE HAVE TAKEN A DEEP LOOK AT THE SPEED HUMP POLICY AND IDENTIFIED SOME OF THE PAIN POINTS SO THAT WE CAN STREAMLINE THAT MAKE IT EASIER TO NAVIGATE AND MORE STRAIGHTFORWARD. SO A COUPLE OF THE PAIN POINTS THAT WE SEE THE TRAFFIC COUNTS. WE ARE HELD TO OUR TRAFFIC COUNT THE RFP THAT ISN'T OUT WITH KIP TO SO THERE ARE TIMES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR WHERE WE AREN'T ABLE TO DO COUNTS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A CURRENT CONTRACT, SO WE'RE INVESTIGATING WHAT WOULD BE NEEDED TO BE ABLE TO GET ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FOR COUNTS SO THAT WE COULD TAKE COUNTS AT ALL TIMES OF THE YEAR. AND UM, NOT JUST BE BLACKED OUT IN THOSE WINDOWS WHEN WE DON'T HAVE AN ACTIVE CONTRACT. THE OTHER AND PROBABLY THE MOST PAINFUL POINT IS THE BALLOTING SO HISTORICALLY WHAT WE'VE DONE IS. WE'LL GO OUT COUNT, DO A DO A STUDY. AND UM, IF YOU DO QUALIFY FOR A SPEED HUMP, THE APPLICANT IS SENT BALLOTS THAT THEY THEN HAVE TO HAVE SIGNED BY THE EFFECTED OWNERS OR RESIDENTS ALONG THE STREET. SO OUR PROPOSAL AND WE HAVE SENT OUT THE FIRST ROUND OF BEES TODAY IS THAT ONCE YOU ARE APPROVED FOR SPEED HUMP THAT WE HAVE A STANDARD LETTER THAT WE'RE GOING TO ADD INTO OUR POLICY AND ESSENTIALLY ALL THE AFFECTED PARTIES. SO EVERYONE ON THE STREET WHETHER YOU ARE A RESIDENT, OR IF BASED OFF OF LOGIC DATA, THE OWNER DOES NOT
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LIVE THERE. WE WILL ALSO INCLUDE MAILING TO THE OWNER'S HOME OR P O BOX. WHAT HAVE YOU SO THAT EVERYONE IS NOTIFIED? IF YOU WERE IN OPPOSITION TO THE SPEED HUMP BEING PLACED YOU NEED TO CONTACT US BY LETTER BY EMAIL BY PHONE CALL, AND YOU HAVE 30 DAYS TO DO SO. SO RATHER THAN SENDING PEOPLE OUT TO COLLECT 70% APPROVAL WHAT WE NEED IS IF WE REACH THAT 30% OR WHATEVER, BECAUSE THE CRITERIA CAN VARY BASED ON THE LOCATION. UM. WHATEVER THAT THRESHOLD IS, THAT NEEDS TO BE NEGATIVE THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE MET, SO WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR NEGATIVE RESPONSES.QUESTION. I'M SORRY. I HATE TO INTERRUPT YOU, BUT I WANTED TO ASK YOU IN THIS PROCESS. SAY YOU HAVE A ONE BLOCK RADIUS THAT HAS QUALIFIED FOR SPEED, HUH? AND YOU MAY HAVE LET'S SAY 30 HOMES.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEND A LETTER OUT TO EVERY ADDRESS 30 HOMES. BUT WHAT IF SEVEN OF THOSE HOMES ARE VACANT? HOW DOES THAT WORK? SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEND A LETTER OUT TO HOMES THAT NO ONE'S THERE TO RESPOND. HOW DOES THAT. UM HOW DOES HOW DO YOU CALCULATE THAT? HOW DO YOU KNOW? SAY YOU, YOU DID NOT GET RESPONSES BACK FROM ALL 30 HOMES SAY YOU ONLY GET RESPONSES BACK FROM FROM 18.
HOMES WHICH WOULD SAY WELL, WE DON'T HAVE THE 70. SO HOW WOULD YOU CONFIRM THE REASON THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THOSE? 70% IS BECAUSE SOME OF THESE HOMES ARE VACANT. SO WE'RE ALSO WE'RE NOT JUST SENDING TO THE PHYSICAL LOCATION . IF THE OWNERSHIP IS ELSEWHERE, WE WOULD SEND TO THE OWNERS MAILING ADDRESS AS WELL. SO IF IT'S NOT UH, I THINK IT WOULD BE MAYBE AN ODD SITUATION WHERE UNLESS SOMEONE WAS VACATIONING ELSEWHERE FOR A PERIOD OF 30 DAYS OR MORE. TYPICALLY YOU WOULDN'T HAVE SOMEONE LIVING THERE THAT BEING THEIR MAILING ADDRESS AND IT NOT BEING OCCUPIED FOR 30 DAYS. DID DID THAT. ANSWER THE QUESTION. YOU DID. I'M JUST. GOING TO REMAIN, YOU KNOW, CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT IF PEOPLE DON'T RESPOND OR PEOPLE DON'T OPEN THE LADDER AND THEY MAY AGREE TO IT, BUT THEY DIDN'T . THEY DIDN'T OPEN THE LADDER OR THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS.
AND A LOT OF TIMES WHEN PEOPLE SEE ME ALL THAT COMES FROM THE CITY, THEY THINK OF SOMETHING OFFICIAL OR THEY'RE IN TROUBLE. WHAT HAVE YOU AND SO THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN IS IF THE LETTER IS IGNORED. BUT I'M SURE WE EXPERIENCED THAT WE CAN FIGURE OUT SOME KIND OF WAY TO AND THAT'S YOU KNOW, I'M ALWAYS A FAN OF TRYING SOMETHING AND SEEING IF IT WORKS, WE KNOW THAT THE BALLOTING SYSTEM HAS TOO MANY CHALLENGES, AND IT PUTS TOO MUCH OF THE WORK ON THE APPLICANT, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH. IF THIS IF WE GET INTO THIS PROCESS, AND WE TRY IT OUT, AND IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S WORKING, WE ARE OPEN TO LOOKING AT OTHER OPTIONS. THANK YOU. THE OTHER PAIN POINT IS ON INSTALLATION, AND I'VE GOT ANOTHER SLIDE HERE AS FAR AS TIMING, BUT ON OUR END, WE HAVE NOT BEEN. AS AS GOOD AS AT, UH, WORKING WITH OUR CONTRACTOR AND REALLY PUTTING SOME THRESHOLDS ON WE TELL THEM GO INSTALL IT, AND WE HAVE NOT BEEN GOOD ABOUT HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE TO TIMELINES. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, IS REALLY STRUCTURING WHAT THOSE EXPECTATIONS LOOK LIKE SO THAT WE CAN GIVE UPDATES. UH IN A WAY THAT MAKES SENSE. UM ALSO, WE'RE EXPLORING WHAT INTERNAL RESOURCES WE WOULD NEED TO BE ABLE TO POTENTIALLY SELF PERFORM SOME OF THE WORK. AND AGAIN.
THIS IS JUST A SUMMARY. SO THE OLD POLICY BALLOTS WERE SENT TO THE APPLICANT PRIMARY POINT OF CONTACT, AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET 70% OF PEOPLE, TOO. SAY THAT THEY ARE IN FAVOR, SO IT'S RELYING ON THAT INDIVIDUAL TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE TIME AND THE RESOURCES TO DO ALL OF THAT LEG WORK. THE PILOT POLICY IS WE'RE SENDING BALLOTS TO AFFECTED PROPERTY OWNERS. IF THEY ARE IN OPPOSITION. THEY HAVE A WINDOW TO EXPRESS THAT OPPOSITION TO US. SO REMOVING THAT BARRIER WITH THE BALLOT. AND I'M SORRY TO KEEP INTERRUPTING YOU DOING YOUR PRESENTATION, BUT THE
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QUESTIONS APPLY TO WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, SO IF YOU DO NOT GET 30% OPPOSITION THEN IT'S A GOAL AUTOMATICALLY. SO THE LETTER IS ALSO, UM CAUTIONS THAT THAT IS BASED ON FUNDING. SO IN THE LETTER WOULD INCLUDE THE TYPICAL INFORMATION THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED WITH THE BALLOT SO IT WOULD SHOW THAT MAP AND IT WOULD SHOW THE LOCATION OF WHERE WE'RE PROPOSING SPEED HUMPS. SO WITH THE FUNDING AVAILABLE LETTERS GO OUT. IF YOU DO NOT GET ANY OPPOSITION FROM AT LEAST 30.THEN THE SPEED HUMPS WILL BE INSTALLED. YES AS SOON AS THE PHONICS AVAILABLE, RIGHT. THANK YOU COULD ASK FOR CLARIFICATION ON THAT MADAM CHAIR. YES SIR. YOU MAY JUST SO I'M CLEAR. THE LETTERS GO OUT. DOES IT REQUIRE 70. TO SAY WE WANT IT. OR DOES IT REQUIRE AND NOWHERE TO HAPPEN ? DOES IT TAKE 70% OF THE POPULATION ON THAT STREET TO SAY WE WANT SPEED HUMPS OR DOES LET HER GO OUT? IN WHICH CASE THE SPEED HUMP IS GONNA GO IN UNLESS GREATER THAN 30% SAY. WE DON'T WANT IT THIS SECOND, SO YOU WOULD ONLY UNLESS 30% SAYS NO CORRECT. SO WE ARE. WE ARE ONLY SOLICITING FEEDBACK. I MEAN, YOU'RE WELCOME TO SHARE FEEDBACK ALWAYS. BUT UH, FOR THE INSTALLATION TO MOVE FORWARD, WE'RE SOLICITING FEEDBACK FROM PEOPLE WHO WOULD NOT WANT IT. SO WE WOULD NOTE THAT. OKAY AND, UM HE HERE'S A TYPICAL KIND OF GENERIC LETTER AND THIS IS ONE THAT WE WOULD INCLUDE WITH OUR POLICY, WHICH WE ARE GETTING UPDATED ON OUR WEBSITE. SO THE 30 DAYS TO VOICE OPPOSITION PLANES ARE INCLUDED WITH THE LETTER. AND AS I MENTIONED, WE'VE JUST RECENTLY SENT OUT ARE TRYING STUFF FOR THE FIRST TIME SO WE CAN HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL UPDATES AT A FUTURE DATE. SO OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON. WE HAVE SOME DASH BOARDING THAT'S AVAILABLE AS FAR AS SPEED OR SPEED HUMP UPDATES. WE DO REPORT MONTHLY TO THAT STENBERG ON SPEED HUMP REQUESTS. UM AND I'VE GOT STACY KEITH AND GREG DOW HAVE SOME MORE DETAILED UPDATES. UM, THAT THEY CAN PROVIDE, BUT WE DO REPORTING MONTHLY AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO SHOW THAT IN A DASHBOARD. BUT ANOTHER THING THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT ULTIMATELY, I THINK OVER PLACE THAT REPORTING ALTOGETHER IS A TRANSPARENT SPEED HUMP JS MAP. SO YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO GO TO THE MAP. YOU COULD SEE A SPEED HUMP HAS BEEN REQUESTED HERE AND YOU CAN CLICK ON IT. AND IT WOULD TELL YOU, UM YOU KNOW, A INVESTIGATIONS BEEN SCHEDULED WHEN WE EXPECT THAT.
TO HAVE RESULTS IF THE SPEED HAS BEEN APPROVED IF BALLOTS ARE LETTERS HAVE BEEN SENT, SO YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO CLICK AND SEE WHAT MILESTONE IS ON AND WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT TO LEADING UP TO THE NEXT MILESTONE. AND HERE'S UH, HERE'S ANOTHER SCREENSHOT FOR A STRIP OF AREAS, SO THE AFFECTED PROPERTY OWNERS HERE FOR IN THE YELLOW, YOU CAN SEE THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF AN INVESTIGATION. SO ONE THING ALSO TO MAKE EVERYONE AWARE OF IS THAT WE CAN'T INSTALL SPEED HUMPS YEAR ROUND. SO THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HELP EDUCATE ABOUT IS THAT THEY ARE RESTRICTED BY THE TEMPERATURE. SO WE HAVE PEOPLE CALLING NOW AND THEY SAY, HEY, WHEN CAN MY SPEED HUMP BE INSTALLED? AND WE SAY, APRIL THAT SEEMS LIKE A REALLY LONG TIME AWAY. BUT WHAT WE MEAN TO SAY IS THAT WE CAN'T EVEN START INSTALLING THEM UNTIL MARCH. SO IT'S BASED ON THE WINDOW THAT WE HAVE TO DO. INSTALLATIONS THAT SPEED HUMP COULD BE, YOU KNOW, IN ONE OF THE FIRST ONES WERE PUTTING IN, BUT WE HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT THE WEATHER IS GOING TO LET US DO. AND THAT IS OUR LESS SLIDE. I DON'T KNOW IF STACY OR GREG, IF YOU WANT TO GIVE UPDATES, OR IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO JUST ASK, UH QUESTIONS FIRST. AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE, UM COUNCILMAN KEVIN CRAMER AND COUNCILMAN CHAPEL JOINING THE MEETING.
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THANK YOU MY INITIAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THE 30% BUT I THINK THAT'S BEEN CLARIFIED. SO MY NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE. I'VE UNDERSTAND ONE OF THE PINCH POINTS HAS BEEN. IT'S NOT PROCEDURAL, BUT IT'S A FACT THERE'S ONLY ONE PERSON DOING IT. UH IS THERE IS THERE ANYTHING IN THERE ABOUT ADDING ANOTHER? ANY OTHER STAFF TO HELP MAKE THIS MOVE FASTER? THAT IS SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING AT. WITH FISCAL YEAR 25 REQUESTS THANK YOU. THANK YOU CHAIR. UM I HAVE FOUR QUESTIONS. THE FIRST ONE. THE CORRELATION BETWEEN HUMS AND SIGNAGE AND, UM, I HAD COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ALL ARE WORKING ON THAT PROCESS, TOO. HOLD YOUR CONTRACTORS TO MORE ACCOUNTABILITY. BUT THERE WAS WE FUNDED. I THINK IN MAY AND THESE WERE VERY LOOSE. VERY LOOSE TIMELINE. IN MAY, WE FUNDED SOME SPEED HUMPS ON BRADLEY AVENUE AND I THINK IN AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER, THE SIGNS THAT SAID CAUTION SPEED HUMPS WENT UP. AND THE SPEED HUMPS HAVE YET TO BE INSTALLED. AND IT ALMOST FEELS. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE LIKE. IS THAT A JOKE? YOU KNOW, UM I GUESS SIGNAGE IS BETTER THAN NO SIGNAGE. I HAVE NO IDEA SO I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOUR CONTRACTORS ARE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR SIGNAGE OR IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S HANDLED BY OUR, UM SIGNS AND MARKINGS DEPARTMENT. CUTE. STACY KEITH WITH METRO TRAFFIC ENGINEERING.SO ARE SIGNS AND MARKINGS DIVISION INSTALLS THE SIGNAGE. WHAT WE'VE REQUESTED THAT THEY DO MOVING FORWARD IS WHEN THEY GET A WORK ORDER FOR THE SIGN INSTALLATION THAT GOES ALONG WITH THE SPEED HUMP ACTIVITY. THEY WOULD GO AHEAD AND PUT THEM IN THAT WAY THERE THERE WHEN THE CONTRACTOR NEEDS THEM TO BE, BUT WE HAVE THEM BAGGED SO THAT WE'RE WE'RE NOT REALLY SETTING THOSE EXPECTATIONS QUITE YET, THAT THE SPEED HUMP IS COMING RIGHT AWAY. WE ARE TRYING DILIGENTLY TO GET OUR CONTRACTORS TO SPEED UP INSTALLATIONS SUCH THAT THE SIGNS WON'T BE OUT QUITE AS LONG. BUT THE WEATHER AT THIS POINT NOW IS EXCEPT EXACERBATED THAT TIME THAT THEY'RE KIND OF ON THE STREET. UM A WORSE SITUATION FOR US, WE BELIEVE IS THE SPEED HUMP GETTING STALLED WITHOUT SIGN INJURED PAVEMENT MARKINGS BECAUSE THEN YOUR CONSTITUENTS ARE DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD. THEY DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S THERE. AND AT NIGHT, IT COULD BE MORE DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO SEE. SO WE CERTAINLY DO THINK THAT HAVING A SIGNAGE OUT FIRST IS BETTER THAN NOT HAVING IT. BUT IN THIS CASE YOU'RE SUGGESTING THAT BAGGED SIGNAGE WOULD THAT WOULD BE IN PLACE FOR . 78 MONTHS. I HAVE NO INTENTION THAT BAG SIGNAGE BE IN PLACE FOR THAT LONG. WE RECOGNIZE THAT YOUR EXAMPLE IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM. IT'S NOT WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE. AND SO IF THERE WERE SPEED HUMPS THAT MY OFFICE FUNDED AND LET'S SAY OCTOBER. IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN HAVE? AN ESTIMATED TIME OF INSTALLATION. YES WE HAVE REQUESTED THAT FROM OUR CONTRACTOR, SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE DO HAVE ESTIMATED DATES FOR INSTALLATION FOR ALL PROJECTS THAT THEY'VE RECEIVED FROM US AT THIS POINT, WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE'RE IN A WHOLE PRESENTLY. YOU KNOW, THE CONTRACTORS GOT QUITE A FEW LOCATIONS THAT THEY NEED TO GET INSTALLED, AND WE'RE REQUESTING THAT THEY DO THIS AS QUICKLY AS THEY CAN. ONCE THE WEATHER KIND OF GETS TO US BACK WHERE WE CAN GET THEM PUT IN AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE HAVE REQUESTED MORE DILIGENCE ON THEIR PART IN MAKING SURE THAT ONCE THEY GET A NOTICE TO PROCEED THAT THEY'RE INSTALLED WITHIN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME. AND I NOTICED WHERE IT WAS SAYING THAT YOU'RE EXPLORING THE POSSIBILITY OF BRINGING SPEED HUM INSTALLATION INTERNAL. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD BE EXPLORING AND WE COULD EXPECT TO SEE, UM A BUDGETARY ASK COME PHYSICAL YEAR 25. OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO FINESSE. THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR FISCAL YEAR, 25. FOR ADDITIONAL SERVICES THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY OFFER WITHIN OUR ROADS AND OPERATIONS DIVISION. LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT, UM IS THE REQUIREMENT STILL TO SPEED HUMPS AT MINIMUM FOR EVERY INSTALLATION. MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IS THAT IT IS YES. AND THEN IS THERE ANY EXPLORATION OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF SPEED BUMPS VERSUS FOR EXAMPLE, HUMPS VERSUS
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BUMPS, OR, UM, ANYTHING IN THAT MANNER, OR IS THIS JUST A STANDARD SPEED HUMP THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? WE'VE NOT MEAN TO MY KNOWLEDGE. WE HAVE NOT EXPLORED OTHER OPTIONS. UM NO, BUT WE CERTAINLY COULD. I MEAN, WE'VE. YEARS AGO. I THINK WE RULED OUT THE OPTION FOR A BUMP.SO THE HUMP IS WHAT WE WORKED TO, UM AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE'S ALSO NOT ANYTHING THAT SUGGESTS THAT WE WOULD WANT TO MOVE AWAY FROM THAT. UM NO, IT DOESN'T MEAN WE WOULDN'T LOOK FOR OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR TRAFFIC CALMING DEVICES, BUT NOT A BUMP. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. COUNCILWOMAN FLUID. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. DIRECTOR COLONEL, WE STILL USING MUCH. GO FORWARD. OR MAYBE GREG I WISH I WAS USING MUDS GUIDELINE. RIGHT? SO WE'RE STILL USING THE FEDERAL GUIDELINES THAT THE STATE ADOPTED YEARS AND YEARS AGO RIGHT FOR QUALIFICATION. THAT IS CORRECT. SO AND THERE IS AN AS FAR AS THE MUT CD. THEY I MEAN, WE HAVE A NEW IDEA THAT JUST CAME OUT IN DECEMBER. CAN YOU? UM SINCE SOME INFORMATION OUT ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK YOU'VE BOTH BEEN NOTIFIED. ALRIGHT? I DON'T. MY OFFICE HASN'T BEEN NOTIFIED THAT IT'S BEEN UPDATED. AND ALSO, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S STILL THE SAME. THERE WERE CERTAIN COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT USED TO NOT PAY FOR SPEED HUMPS. SO, UM YOU MIGHT WANT TO. CHECK WITH ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS BECAUSE DIFFERENT CAMP COUNCIL MEMBERS USED TO DO DIFFERENT THINGS ABOUT PAYMENT FOR SPEED HUBS. WE CAN CERTAINLY INVESTIGATE THAT AS FAR AS HOW THAT PAYMENT IS RECEIVED FOR THEM. I KNOW WE'VE RECEIVED FROM HOMEOWNERS AND BUSINESSES. IN ONE CASE, YES, THERE'S JUST SOME, IT MAY HAVE CHANGED BECAUSE THE COUNSELOR HAS FLIPPED HANDS UP SEVERAL SEATS, BUT THERE WERE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO WOULD NOT PAY FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T SUPPORT THE IDEA OF SPEED HUMPS. I KNOW OUR OFFICE PAYS FOR THEM, BUT SOME DIDN'T. THANK YOU. SO MANY ACTORS AND YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY. RECORDS TO COUNCILWOMAN FLOOD? YES I WOULD SAY THIS. UH I'M A COUNCIL PERSON WHO DOES NOT BELIEVE IN SPEED HUMPS. BUT I WILL TELL YOU THIS. BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SPEED HOMES IN MY DURATION ON METRO 26, EVEN THOUGH IT HAS CHANGED BOUNDARIES . THERE'S NEVER BEEN A SPEED HUMP PUT IN METRO 26. I MIGHT HAVE INHERITED SOMEBODY ELSE'S.
BUT MY ATTITUDE OF NOT BELIEVING IN SPEED HUMPS DOESN'T MEAN I DON'T BELIEVE IN THEM. THEREFORE I'M NOT GOING TO PAY FOR THEM. SOMEONE ELSE CAN. MANAGE IT WAS. I DON'T BELIEVE THEM, AND THEREFORE I'LL BE IF THEY'RE GOING IN METRO 26. SO I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE ONE OF THE MOST SPEAKING TO SOMEBODY ELSE. I ACKNOWLEDGE BLUFFTON GUILTY AS CHARGED. BUT I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW I WOULDN'T GET A FREE RIDE ON SOMEBODY ELSE BY NOT BELIEVING HIM BY NOT BELIEVING MY ATTITUDE WAS THEY'RE GOING IN. AND THAT'S STILL MY ATTITUDE. COUNCILMAN KRAMER.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, UM WHAT? WHAT IS BEHIND THE CHANGE? WHAT MOTIVATED THIS UM THE PROCESS IN THE PAST. WAS DESIGNED SUCH THAT SPEED HUMPS WOULD NOT BE THE DEFAULT. BUT THAT SPEED HUMPS WOULD BE INSTALLED. IF. 70% OF FOLKS REALLY WANT REALLY WANTED THEM. AND SOMEONE WENT AND DID THE WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS TRUE. UM THIS POLICY FLIPS THAT ON ITS HEAD AND BASICALLY MAKES SPEED HUMPS THAT DEFAULT. AND THEN YOU ALMOST HAVE TO REJECTED . AND WHEN YOU MAKE SPEED HUMPS TO DEFAULT, I THINK TO COUNCILMAN FLOODS QUESTION WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PAYMENT OF THE OF THIS SPEED HUMPS IS THAT WHEN PUBLIC WORKS SENDS OUT THIS WHEN SOMEONE AND I'M TRYING TO FOLLOW AS QUICK AS I COULD APOLOGIZE A FEW MINUTES LATE COMING IN, BUT AS ANDERSON IS UNDERSTOOD FROM WHAT I SAW, A PERSON CALLED PUBLIC WORKS, SAYS WE WON'T HAVE SPEED HUMPS AND THEN YOU GUYS TAKE OVER THE PROCESS. WHO PAYS. FOR IN THAT IN THAT INSTANCE I MEAN TO COUNCILWOMAN FLOODS POINT WELL, STOP. I'M JUST CURIOUS. WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE MOTIVATING FACTOR HERE? WHY ARE WE CHANGING THIS? WHERE IS THIS COMING FROM? SO WE DO HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL BACKLOG IN SPEED HUMPS, AND IT'S FOR A VARIETY OF FACTORS. AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HEAR ABOUT. VERY, VERY FREQUENTLY. THE IDEA AS FAR AS CHANGES ON THE
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BALLOTING IS THAT IT WAS SEEN AS AN UNDUE BURDEN ON THE APPLICANT IN A LOT OF CASES, LOCATIONS WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE AN OWNER, UM, COUNCILWOMAN PURPOSES POINT YOU MIGHT HAVE A VACANT PROPERTY. THAT OWNER IS IN A DIFFERENT STATE. YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO GET A SIGNATURE FROM THEM. PROBABLY UNLESS YOU YOU KNOW, TOOK A STEP TO MAIL OR TRY TO CONTACT THEM OR SOMETHING ELSE. SO THE FEEDBACK THAT WE HAVE SEEN IS IT TAKES TOO LONG TO GET A SPEED HUMP. THERE'S AN UNDUE BURDEN PLACED ON THE APPLICANT. SO THAT IS, THAT IS WHAT HAS INITIATED THIS, UM AS FAR AS PAYMENT. ANY INSTALLATION WOULD DEPEND UPON HOW THAT IS FUNDED, SO I KNOW THAT WE ARE TRYING TO IDENTIFY AT THE OUTSET . WHO WOULD BE FUNDING THIS IS THIS AN H O A MENTIONED? YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD A BUSINESS WANTED TO FIND ONE IS THE COUNCIL DISTRICT FUNDING IT? SO THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD TRY TO HELP IDENTIFY AT THE OUTSET, I WOULD POINT OUT TWO THINGS FIRST. IF YOU THINK YOU HAVE A BACKLOG NOW. WHEN YOU ESTABLISHED THIS NEW POLICY, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A HUGE BACKLOG BECAUSE THE BACKLOG YOU HAVE NOW IS AFTER SOMEONE ELSE DID A LOT OF WORK TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. AND YOU PUBLIC WORKS STILL HAS A BACKLOG. THAT BACKLOG ISN'T CAUSED BY PEOPLE WHO WANT SPEED HOMES. THE BACKLOGS CALLS BECAUSE, AND I DON'T MEAN CONTRACT ANYTHING AS THIS INDICTMENT. IT'S JUST YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO KEEP UP SO IF YOU MAKE IT EASIER TO DO SPEED HUMPS, BIGGER BACKLOG, NOT A NOT A SMALLER ONE. SO THAT'S AND UNDERSTAND HOW THIS IS THE SOLUTION TO THAT PROBLEM. I WOULD ARGUE. IT'S IN FACT NOT AND THEN THE OTHER PIECES. THE FUNDING MECHANISM. UM YOU KNOW, IT'S IT IS. UNLIKE COUNCILMAN ACKERSON, AND I'M SURE HE WON'T MIND MY SAYING THIS. YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS BEFORE. I THINK THAT THE AREA THAT HE INHERITED THEM WAS SPECIFICALLY FOR ME. UM, SO I AM GOING TO BE CLEAR. I DON'T HAVE A STATED PREFERENCE. UNLIKE MY COLLEAGUE, INDUSTRY 26, YOU KNOW , I MEAN, I MIGHT HAVE OWNED KEVIN CRAMER PERSONAL PREFERENCE, BUT AS FAR AS THE COUNCIL PERSON GOES, MY PREFERENCE IS IRRELEVANT. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER I LIKE THEM OR DON'T AND I'VE TOLD NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS THIS THE CITY OF LOUISVILLE HAS A HARD ENOUGH TIME FILLING POTHOLES. FIXING BROKEN ROADS. I DON'T THINK THAT SPEED HUMPS SHOULD RISE TO THE LEVEL OF THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE'RE DEBATING IN THE BUDGET PROCESS OVER THE SUMMER, AND THAT'S I DON'T THINK THIS IS WHAT WE SHOULD BE SPENDING OUR TIME AND ENERGY ON IF SOMEONE WANTS TO PUT IN SPEED HUMP. AND THEY WANT IT. THEN IT'S INCUMBENT ON THEM TO DO THE WORK. RIGHT? I MEAN, THEY'VE GOT TO GO OUT AND GET THE SUPPORT FOR IT. AND THEN ONCE THEY HAVE THE SUPPORT FOR IT, IN MY CASE TO COUNCILMAN, FLOODS POINT IN MY DISTRICT WHAT THAT MEANS IS MAD YOU WILL USE NEIGHBOR DALTON FUNDS, AND WE WILL FIND HALF OF WHATEVER THE COST THAT SPEED UP IS BECAUSE AGAIN. HMM IF YOU JUST OPEN THE DOOR AND I WOULD ARGUE WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE IF YOU JUST OPEN THE DOOR AND MAKE IT THIS KIND OF EASY TO PUT IN SPEED HUMPS ALL OVER THE PLACE. THERE WILL BE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT SPEED HUMPS WHO WILL HAVE THEM BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T RESPOND IN THAT 30. AND THEY'RE GONNA BE FURIOUS THAT THEY GOT SPEED HUMPS AND COUNCIL MEMBERS BEWARE BECAUSE THE FIRST KIND OF CALL IS GOING TO GO TO PUBLIC WORKS AND THE SECOND CALL IS COMING TO US AND PUBLIC WORKS IS GOING TO SAY WE JUST DID WHAT WE WERE TOLD WHICH IS FAIR TO PUBLIC WORKS. THEY DO WHAT THEY'RE TOLD THEM. WE REALLY APPRECIATE PUBLIC WORKS. SO WHEN PUBLIC WORKS, SALESMAN CONSTITUENT, WE DID WHAT WE WERE TOLD. I'M NOT EVER GOING TO GET ON THE PHONE AND SAY THOSE RATS AT PUBLIC WORKS. THAT'S ON ME, RIGHT? THAT'S ON ME. SO IF I'M IN FAVOR OF A POLICY THAT MAKES IT EASY TO PUT INTO HOMES AND I'VE GOT CONSTITUENTS WHO ABSOLUTELY DON'T WANT THESE THINGS, AND WE CREATE A POLICY THAT MAKES IT SO. SO SIMPLE. UM I THINK I FOR ME, THAT'S PROBLEMATIC TO SAY THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING, YOU KNOW WHERE THIS IS COMING FROM? AS FAR AS THE PROPERTY OWNER GOES. HE NEEDS 70. PEOPLE AFFECTED. BY THAT, UM YOU KNOW, IT'S. YOU REACH OUT TO THOSE FOLKS TWO HOURS LIVING IN THAT PROPERTY IF THERE'S AN ABANDONED PROPERTY, THEN THAT PROPERTY IS NOT AFFECTED. SPEED UP. HOW DO YOU ARGUE AN ABANDONED PROPERTIES EFFECTIVE ASPEN UP? I DON'T LIKE THAT ONE. I DON'T KNOW AND NOT TRYING TO BE ARGUMENTATIVE. I JUST I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. BECAUSE RENTERS HAVE A SAY HERE, BY THE WAY, THIS ISN'T ABOUT PROPERTY OWNERS. THIS IS ABOUT RENTERS. RENTERS HAVE TO SAY IF I LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I'M RENTING A PROPERTY THERE AND YOU WANT TO PUT A SPEED BUMP IN. I HAVE THE RIGHT TO I HAVE. I HAVE A SAYING THAT NOT THE PROPERTY OWNER. AND THAT IS WHY WE ARE[00:50:03]
PLAN IS TO SEND BOTH IN THE SPIRIT OF TRANSPARENCY. SO IF YOU LIVE THERE PHYSICALLY, IF THE HOME IS VACANT, SOMEBODY STILL OWNS IT. SO WE'RE STILL SENDING THAT TO THE OWNER. MY POINT IS YOU'RE TAKING ON THE RESPONSIBILITY IS MY ARGUMENT, SAYING PUBLIC WORKS NOW IS TAKING ON THE RESPONSIBILITY AND WE'RE MAKING IT EASIER TO PUT IN SPEED HUMPS. INSTEAD OF LEAVING THE RESPONSIBILITY IN THE HANDS OF THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE MOST DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY IT. I LIKE TECHNOLOGY. DEPUTY MAYOR NICOLE GEORGE. CAN YOU HEAR ME? THANK YOU CHAIR AND NICOLE GEORGE W.MAYOR OF PUBLIC HEALTH, PUBLIC SERVICES COUNSELING. CRAMER YOU'VE RAISED SEVERAL GOOD QUESTIONS FIRST BEING YOU KNOW WHAT'S DRIVING THIS, UM WE ARE VERY COMMITTED TO HEALTHY, SAFE STREETS AND IN PART SEEDS, SPEED HUMPS AS A TOOL, NOT THE DEFINITIVE TOOL, BUT A TOOL IN THE WAY OF INSURANCE SAFETY, REDUCING SPEEDING AND ENHANCING QUALITY LIFE ON OUR STREETS. YOU RAISE REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS ABOUT, UM YOU KNOW IF YOU HAD A BACKLOG BEFORE, JUST WAIT BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE GOING TO YOU'RE GOING TO SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE YOUR BACKLOG. THAT'S A FAIR POINT WITH UNDERSTANDING THAT THE BALLOTING IS JUST A TOOL TO SAY THIS STREET IS ELIGIBLE AND READY TO GO IN THE QUEUE. IT IS NOT A GUARANTEE FOR FUNDING NOR GUARANTEE FOR INSTALLATION. THE GOAL IS REALLY TO INSPIRE. LESS BURDEN FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF STREETS, RECOGNIZING THAT IN AN IDEAL WORLD WITH HEALTHY BLOCK WHERE YOU HAVE LOTS OF NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE INVESTMENT, IT SHOULD BE THAT BLOCKS IT SHOULD BE INCUMBENT UPON THAT BLOCK TO APPLY INTO DEMONSTRATE DEMONSTRATE EFFORT IN THAT IN THAT SPIRIT. I CAN TELL YOU PERSONALLY SPENT AN ENTIRE SUMMER WITH MY LEGISLATIVE AIDE TRYING TO GET SPEED HUMPS FOR BROOKLYN. AND THAT IS BECAUSE IT WASN'T JUST VACANT PROPERTIES AND YES, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO ENGAGE AND WILL BE ENGAGING HOMEOWNERS AND RENTERS, BUT IT REFLECTS A BLOCK THAT'S JUST QUITE FRANKLY LESS ENGAGED, MORE TRANSIENT, AND WE KNOW WHERE THE SPEEDING AND THE PROBLEMS OCCUR.
AND SO REALLY, AND TRULY, THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO PUT LESS BURDEN ON OUR COMMUNITY. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR KNOWING THAT YOU KNOW, WE'VE STUDIED WE KNOW WHERE THE SPEEDING IS, AND WE'RE GOING TO AIR IN THE SIDE OF WE DO SEEM SPEEDING FOR THE SAKE OF SAFE AND HEALTHY, HEALTHY STREETS. BUT HEAR ME SAY, YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT ABOUT MAKING SURE WE'RE BEING REALLY CLEAR IN THAT THIS IS NOT A GUARANTEE. THIS JUST SAYS YOUR STREET IS ELIGIBLE. IT'S APPROVED IN YOUR IN THE QUEUE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN. FLUID YOU WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT REFERENCE TO COUNCILMAN KREIMER. YEAH BECAUSE THE GOOD POINT IS THAT DID YOU SAY THAT? IF 30% OF THE PEOPLE DON'T ANSWER YOU, THAT'S AN AUTOMATIC BID FOR YES, WE WANT THEM. BECAUSE SEE I DON'T. I DON'T LIKE THAT IDEA AT ALL. I WOULD SAY, I WOULD SAY IF YOU GET 30% THE SAY IN WRITING OR BY EMAIL OR PHONE, I DON'T WANT THEM. BUT JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE DOESN'T ANSWER TO ACCEPT THAT, AS A I'M NOT OPPOSED. I DON'T. I DON'T LIKE THAT EITHER.
UM AND IT'S NEVER BEEN A PROBLEM. WITH THE RESIDENTS THAT I'VE WORKED WITH SPEED HUMPS TO HAVE SOMEONE GET SIGNATURES THAT THEY WANTED SPEED HUMPS. I MEAN, IT'S NEVER BEEN A THING THAT I CAN'T GET THAT MANY BECAUSE THEY CAN UM AND MAYBE IT'S JUST MY DISTRICT. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS THAT KIND OF LUCK OR NOT, BUT I MEAN, WE'VE NEVER HAD UM, I THINK WE'VE ONLY HAD ONE STREET IN THE WHOLE TIME WHERE THEY DIDN'T GET 70% BUT IT WAS A VERY, VERY SMALL STREET AND PEOPLE JUST DIDN'T WANT THEM. YES SO WE DO AND WE DO HAVE EXAMPLES OF SPEED HUMP APPLICATIONS THAT GO BACK IN, AND PEOPLE ARE JUST UNABLE FOR WHATEVER REASON TO EVEN REACH OTHER NEIGHBORS. WHETHER THAT PROPERTY IS SITTING VACANT OR PEOPLE, MAYBE RATHER THAN SAY, NO, I DON'T WANT IT. JUST DON'T ANSWER, SO THERE'S NO UM, AGAIN, IT'S PUTTING THE BURDEN ON THE APPLICANT THAT ISN'T ALWAYS THE EXPERIENCE THAT EVERYONE HAS AS FAR AS THE SPEED HUMP BALLADS, AND WE DO I MEAN, WE HAVE SPEED HUMPS ON THE BOOKS THAT GO BACK. VERY LONG TIME. I MEAN, SOME APPLICANTS MOVE BEFORE THEY'RE ABLE TO GET 70. EXCUSE ME, BUT I'M JUST SAYING, IF YOU SAY EXCUSE ME ONE SECOND, MR CAROL, COULD YOU MOVE TO THE SPEAKER, PLEASE? I'M SORRY. THANK YOU.
CANCER WOMAN FLOOD YOU CAN I JUST THINK IT'S A MISTAKE TO TAKE AN NO. NO INFORMATION COMING BACK TO YOU AS IF I DON'T CARE. I JUST YOU KNOW IF YOU WANT TO SAY OKAY, 30% WE'VE GOT
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30% IN WRITING OR BY PHONE CALL OR EMAIL THAT SAYS THEY DON'T. THAT'S ONE THING BUT NOT TO JUST OKAY? I SEND OUT THE LETTER. YOU MIGHT AS WELL SAY WE'LL SEND THEM OUT. AND IF 70% 1 OF THEM WE DON'T HEAR BACK FROM THEM. WE KNOW YOU WANT THEM TO SAME SAME DIFFERENCE. OKAY I AM. I MEAN, WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT WHAT OTHER OPTIONS ARE. WE HAVE SPENT . I CAN'T TELL YOU. WE'VE SPENT SEVERAL MONTHS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY THERE IS NOT ONE THAT IS CLEAR. BEST WAY TO DO IT. IT IS A VERY COMPLICATED ISSUE. LET ME SAY THIS. AH PERSONALLY HAVE GONE TO HOMES, TOO. COLLECT SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION. UM. I'VE WORKED WITH PEOPLE THAT INITIATED THE STUDIES. SOME WANT TO DO IT. SOME DON'T WANT TO DO IT. UM I'VE DECIDED THAT IF THESE STREETS WON'T THESE SPEED STUDIES, IT IS IT IS UP TO THEM. TO GET IT DONE, BUT I ALSO RESPECT AND I AGREE WITH THE PROCESS THAT YOU ALL ARE CHANGING, TOO, AS WELL. UH, IT DOES TAKE THE BURDEN. OFF OF PEOPLE THAT MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND COLLECT SIGNATURES.SO YOU KNOW I DO SUPPORT THAT CHANGE. COUNCIL MEMBER. WE. THANK YOU, MADAM. CHAIR OF FIRST OF ALL, I CANNOT FIND THE LETTER. I WAS LOOKING AT IT. AND AS I INITIALLY READ IT, AND PLEASE CLARIFY IF I'M WRONG, IT LOOKS LIKE THE ONLY WAY TO RESPOND IN THE LETTER OF THE WAY I SAW IT IS THAT YOU HAVE TO SNAIL MAIL IT BACK IN. IS THAT CORRECT? NO IT WOULD INCLUDE EMAIL PHONE NUMBER AS WELL. OKAY GOOD BECAUSE THAT WILL CERTAINLY REDUCE SOME OF THE BURDENS ON THEIR ON SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE DIFFICULTY. JUST GETTING THROUGH THAT PROCESS THAT MAKES IT MUCH MORE CONVENIENT. AND IN MY NEXT QUESTION, KIND OF CHANGES THE CONVERSATION A LITTLE BIT AND I KNOW FORMS OF SPEED HUMPS HAVE BEEN USED AT CROSSWALKS, PARTICULARLY IN URBAN AREAS WHERE PEOPLE TEND TO RUN STOP SIGNS. IS THAT BEING LOOKED AT AS BEING A MORE COMMON USE OF THE SPEED UP, AND, UH, THERE'S ONE DOWNTOWN OVER HERE, LIKE FOURTH STREET STREET, SO THAT THAT'S NOT A SPEED HUMP SO MUCH AS THEY RAISED PEDESTRIAN CROSSING, SO THE IDEA BEING THAT PEDESTRIANS WOULD BE ELEVATED, MORE MISERABLE. AND DIRECTED TO CROSS WHERE THEY SHOULD BE CROSSING. THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT IS IN THE TOOLKIT THAT WE ARE INVESTIGATING TO LOOK AT. AS FAR AS, UM TRAFFIC CALMING DEVICES. YES BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE QUITE EFFECTIVE. AT CONTROLLING THE INTERACTIONS AND PRIORITIZING PEDESTRIAN. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL. I WANT TO START OFF BY APPLAUDING YOU ALL FOR LOOKING AT THE PROCESS FOR THIS BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN YOU BECAME THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS. WE HAD A CONVERSATION THAT'S DEFINITELY IN YOUR BAG OF TRICKS IS IRONING OUT PROCESSES AND I THINK LIKE NOT ONLY WITH PUBLIC WORKS, BUT ACROSS LOUISVILLE METRO, OUR PROCESSES ARE CONVOLUTED, FULL OF RED TAPE AND UNNECESSARILY COMPLICATED, AND SO, UM, I'M JUST EXCITED TO HEAR THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THIS FROM A DIFFERENT LENS. WHETHER OR NOT MY COLLEAGUES AND I AGREE UM, MY PAYMENT POLICY FOR SPEED HUMPS IS PROBABLY A DIRECT REFLECTION OF HOW I FEEL ABOUT THEM. I DO SEE THEM AS TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES, BUT THEY ARE NOT MY PREFERRED METHOD OF TRAFFIC CALMING AND SO MY OFFICE WILL PAY FOR HALF OF THE SPEED HUMP INSTALLATION. UM AND THAT'S THE PROCESS FOR THAT. AND HOW MY OFFICE HANDLES IT IS ON OUR WEBSITE ON MY WEBSITE AND THE F A Q SECTION. AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS NECESSARILY A COMMENT OR A QUESTION AS MUCH AS IT IS A COMMENT, UM, JUST BECAUSE I THINK THAT IT IS STILL VALID IN WHO'S TAKING OWNERSHIP OF THIS IS IT THE H O A OR THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS THAT THE STREET THAT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR GETTING $3000 TO PAY FOR HALF OF TWO SPEED? HUMPS? UM I THINK THAT THAT'S DEFINITELY PART OF THE PROCESS THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT AND CREATING LESS BARRIERS TO GETTING SPEED HUMPS. I DEFINITELY HEAR WHERE THAT'S UM, FAVORED, BUT I COULD ALSO I ALSO KNOW THAT FROM WHEN I CAMPAIGNED, KNOCKING ON DOORS, EVERY SINGLE PERSON ONE SPEED HUMPS ON THEIR STREET AND I ALWAYS SAID IF THERE WERE SPEED HOMES ON EVERY SINGLE STREET, THEN YOU'D BE SENDING ME A BILL FOR YOUR ALIGNMENT. IT WOULD BE A REALLY FRUSTRATING CITY TO DRIVE AROUND. UM SO I GUESS THAT'S JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT. BUT THE I KIND OF WANT TO PIVOT HERE TO ELIGIBILITY, AND SO IS EVERY STREET IN LOUISVILLE METRO GOING TO BE SENT THIS LETTER UM, ELIGIBILITY LETTER OR HOW IS THE PROCESS KICKED OFF? SO IF I WANT SPEED HUMPS ON MY STREET WHAT IS THE PROCESS LOOK LIKE FOR ME
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DOING IT AS A CITIZEN OR KICKING OFF THAT PROCESSES THAT REACHING OUT TO MY COUNCIL PERSON. IS IT REACHING OUT TO THE PUBLIC WORKS ? AND THEN DO I TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THAT PROJECT, OR JUST I HAD MY VOICE HEARD AND THEN PUBLIC WORKS IS GOING TO TAKE IT FROM HERE, OR ARE YOU ALL GOING TO TAKE MORE OF AN ACTIVE APPROACH IN LOOKING AT THE STREETS THAT ARE YOU KNOW? MOST PRONE TO ACCIDENTS AND THEN PUTTING SPEED HUMPS THERE. OKAY SO, UM, I'M SORRY. I THINK I THINK YOU'VE HAD TWO QUESTIONS IN THERE. I'M TRYING TO THINK ABOUT BACK TO THE FIRST ONE. UM AS FAR AS THE APPLICATION. HMM YOU CAN APPLY SO A PERSON COULD APPLY. WE WOULD EVALUATE NOT EVERY STREET IS ELIGIBLE TO YOUR POINT. SPEED HUMPS AREN'T THE SOLUTION FOR EVERY PROBLEM, AND NOR ARE THEY THE RIGHT SOLUTION FOR EVERY STREET. WE DO HAVE OTHER AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE WORKING ON AS FAR AS THE PROPOSAL FOR NEXT BUDGET IS, HOW DO HOW DO WE ROLL OUT TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES? WIND SPEED HUMPS, ART, THE SOLUTION. WE, UM WHEN WE GO OUT, AND WE DO INVESTIGATIONS, SOMEONE REACHES OUT INITIALLY BECAUSE THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A PROBLEM BUT THEN CAN BECOME VERY DISAPPOINTED. WE COME BACK AND SAY WELL, NO, YOU CAN HAVE A SPEED HUMP, BUT LUCKILY THAT IS NOT THE ONLY TOOL IN OUR TOOL KIT. BUT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH. HOW DO WE ROLL OUT OTHER SOLUTIONS THAT COULD BE OPTIONS AS WELL? SO IT'S STILL I GUESS, UM CITIZEN DRIVEN . AND LOOKING AT LIKE AGAIN. PUBLIC WORKS ISN'T GOING TO BE PROACTIVE AND SAYING, HEY, YOUR STREET ELIGIBLE. LET US KNOW IF YOU WANT THESE. THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN ON EVERY STREET. IT'S STILL THERE HAS TO BE AT LEAST ONE PERSON OR AN ASSOCIATION THAT TAKES THE ONUS ON THEMSELVES. CORRECT SO I MEAN, WE CAN'T AFFORD TO GO OUT AND JUST PUT SPEED HUMPS IN. SO THERE IS THAT TO DEPUTY MAYOR GEORGIA'S POINT, THERE IS ALSO THE ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS JUST BECAUSE YOUR STREET QUALIFIES FOR SPEED HUMP. YOU WOULD ALSO HAVE TO HAVE ENOUGH OF AN INTEREST WHETHER TT COUNCIL H AWAY INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS IN FUNDING THAT, AND I MEAN, YOU KNOW THEY CAN BE EXPENSIVE. YEAH I THINK IF YOU WANT TO CLARIFY FOR ANYONE, I BELIEVE THE LAST TIME I GOT A QUOTE FOR TWO SPEED HUMPS, WHICH IS THE MINIMUM WAS ABOUT $3000 PER SPEED HUMPS. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT A LITTLE OVER $6000 FOR TWO SPEED HUMPS TO BE INSTALLED CORRECT. WELL, THE PRICES ACCORDING TO 100. PER SPEED UP. WHAT SORRY FOLKS JUST DOESN'T MATTER OF ORDER. WE NEED YOU TO COME TO THE PODIUM AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND THEN SPEAK INTO THE PODIUM BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE ONLINE AND THE PUBLIC AND SUCH SO SORRY, MOM. SORRY. GREAT DOLL TRAFFIC ENGINEERING TECHNICIAN, THE CURRENT WE HAVE A. CONVERSATION WITH THE CONTRACTOR LAST YEAR, AND I THINK THE STICKING POINT OVER THE YEARS HAS BEEN SPEED HUMP INSTALLATION AND GETTING IT DONE IN A TIMELY MANNER. AND SO WE HAD WE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE CONTRACTOR, AND WE. WE AGREED TO PRETTY MUCH INCREASED THE COST FOR THIS, UM TURNAROUND TIME FOR THE INSTALLATION, WHICH WHICH IS $4200 NOW. PLUS $260 PURSE BE HUNG UPSIDE. SO PRETTY MUCH GOING FORWARD. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. $4200 PRICE TAG PURSE BEYOND AND $260 PER SPEED HUMPS SIDE. SO. ACCORDING TO MY COLLEAGUE HERE, I'M TERRIBLE AT MATH. THAT'S $9000 FOR TO SPEED UP. SO I MEAN. NO IT INTO SPEED HUMPS IS THE MINIMUM THAT WE THAT YOU HAVE TO. YOU HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST TWO SPEED ALMONDS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CRAMER. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. UM I'M JUST REALLY WANTED BACK IN. I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT ON WHAT COUNCILMAN GEORGE I'M SORRY, DEPUTY MAYOR GEORGE SAID, UM I DON'T THINK IT'S SO MUCH A QUESTION. IT'S JUST A REITERATION AND A BIT OF A COMMENT. BY INITIAL QUESTION WAS WHAT'S DRIVING THIS? UM THE DISCUSSION ABOUT SPEED HUMPS. I WAS FORTUNATE TO BE ON THE COUNCIL WHEN WE WENT FROM BUMPS TO SANYA SOLO SPEED HUMPS AND ALL OF THE CONVERSATION AROUND ALL OF THAT. THE CONVERSATION, THEN. WAS ABOUT NEIGHBORS WHO WANTED TO CALM SPEEDS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. THAT'S WHAT THIS[01:05:07]
WAS ABOUT, UM THIS CONVERSATION HAS SHIFTED. AND THIS IS THIS IS ABOUT RECOGNIZING SAFE STREETS AND SAFER NEIGHBORHOODS AND SPEED HUMPS AS A WAY TO DO THAT, AND THIS IS MORE OF A THIS IS MORE OF A GOVERNMENT APPROACH TO THE PROBLEM OF SPEEDING IN NEIGHBORHOODS. IT FEELS LIKE A SUBTLE SHIFT TO SOME FOLKS, BUT THIS IS A RADICAL SHIFT. AND THE WAY THAT WE UNDERSTAND. TRAFFIC AND TRAFFIC CALMING IN NEIGHBORHOODS, AND THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOU KNOW, OUR NEIGHBORHOODS ARE DIFFERENT. SO I KNOW TO YOUR POINT. SOME NEIGHBORHOODS QUALIFYING SOME DON'T BUT ALSO KNOW THAT WHEN WE WROTE THE POLICY, YOU HAVE TO WRITE A POLICY THAT YOU CAN APPLY. EQUITABLY AND EQUALLY ACROSS THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, AND SO SOME OF US HAVE. YOU KNOW, I HAVE A STREET IN MY DISTRICT THAT WE JUST PUT SPEED HUMPS ON. IT'S 1.5 TIMES THE WIDTH OF THE NORMAL STREET. BUT THE SPEED LIMITS 25. IT WAS DESIGNED ORIGINALLY, WHEN HEARTBURN LINK CAME THROUGH. THE IDEA WAS THAT WAS GOING TO BE THE HERZBERG LAND QUARTER. UM BUT THERE WAS A HOUSE AND CHANGE THE LAND. BUT ANAY THAT SPEED HUMP WAS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE NORM. UM. BUT THE FOLKS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ABSOLUTELY WANTED IT. SO YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A BIT OF CONVERSATION AROUND THAT LOOK LIKE HOW MUCH WOULD COST HOW WOULD YOU DO THIS? UM, THAT'S A WAY DIFFERENT CONVERSATION, THOUGH. THEN YOU KNOW, A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS FOUR 90 DEGREE TERMS. SO I JUST ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES TO UNDERSTAND IS NOT A SUBTLE CHANGE. IT' NOT SUBTLE CHANGE. THIS IS A SEA CHWAE DO S OPLE WHO WANT THEM. THIS IS A DIFFERENCE IN AND APPROACH FROM THE GOVERNMENT. TOWARDS SPEED HOMES. THIS IS THE GOVERNMENT THAT SAYS SPEED HUMPS ARE A GOOD IDEA. WE WANT TO PUT THEM IN AND WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT EASY FOR YOU TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN, AS OPPOSED TO GOVERNMENT WHO SAYS WE WANT TO HELP YOU WITH WHAT'S GOING ON IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS. AND IF THIS IS AN ISSUE FOR YOU WE'RE FINE WORKING WITH YOU TO GET THAT DONE. BUT THIS ISN'T JUST A SIMPLE POLICY SHIFT, AND I APPRECIATE MISS GEORGE, MAKING IT CLEAR THIS IS ABOUT AN ATTITUDE TOWARDS SAFE NEIGHBORHOODS IN A WAY TO GET THERE THROUGH TRAFFIC COMING DEVICES LIKE SPEED HUMPS. SO IT'S A BIG DEAL. MAJESTY. TWO THINGS CHAIR. BUT CAN YOU MAKE IT QUICK? I WANT VERY QUICK. YES TWO THINGS I WOULD SAY, UM, THIS IS ABOUT COMMUNITY AIRING ON THE SIDE OF SAFETY, AND I WOULD ALSO SAY THIS IS A PILOT AND AS PART OF THIS, ALLOWING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH COMMUNITY TO AIR ON THE SIDE OF SAFETY AND BE ABLE TO MEASURE WHAT THE IMPACT IS WILL ALLOW US TO BE MORE EQUITABLE AS IT RELATES TO THE DIFFERENCES IN OUR COMMUNITY. BUT WE ARE ALSO OPEN TO FEEDBACK. THANK YOU.THANK YOU. WE ARE, UM WE HAVE ABOUT 10 MINUTES LEFT BEFORE WE END THE MEETING. I WOULD LIKE EITHER YOU ARE GREG DOWN TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT WHY IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO PUT SPEED HUMPS. ON STREETS LIKE BROADWAY BOYS CHANNEL ROW CHESTNUT MUHAMMAD ALI. OFTENTIMES CONSTITUENTS WERE ASKED FOR SPEED HUMPS ON THOSE TYPES OF ROLES. AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF YOU ARE, UM, CAN ANSWER THAT. FOR THE PUBLIC TO HEAR WHY IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO PUT SPEED HUMPS ON THOSE TYPES OF ROLES. I KNOW SOME OF THESE ROLES ARE DECLARED HIS STATE ROADS. SOME OF THEM ARE DECLARED AS MAJOR THOROUGHFARES FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES. SO IF YOU CAN JUST TOUCH BASE ON THAT, AND THEN I HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION FOR MR TAO BEFORE WE IN THE MEETING.
THANK YOU. SO TO YOUR FIRST QUESTION, THERE COULD BE MANY REASONS WHY SPEED HIM WOULDN'T BE THE RIGHT SOLUTION. SO IN INSTANCES LIKE A STATE ROAD, IT'S A STATE ROAD. WE WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED TO PUT THEM THERE. IT COULD BE A MAJOR MINOR ARTERIAL. THE VOLUMES AND THEN THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT WOULD BE PROHIBITIVE ALSO TOPOGRAPHY, SO IF THE STREET IS TOO STEEP, IT MAY NOT BE APPLICABLE. UM, ONE OF WE GOT SOME, UM SOME GOOD FEEDBACK ABOUT THE MAP THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING IS POTENTIALLY IDENTIFYING STREETS THAT GOING AHEAD AND IDENTIFYING TRUTHS THAT WOULD QUALIFY SO THAT IT WOULD BE LESS FOR AN APPLICANT TO HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IF YOU BOOK AND IT ALREADY SAYS, YOU KNOW, THE STREET YOU'RE ON, UNFORTUNATELY, DOESN'T QUALIFY.
THEN WE DON'T WANT YOU TO HAVE TO WASTE YOUR TIME DOING AN APPLICATION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. AND BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO ANSWER THIS, OR MR DOT WANTS TO ANSWER THIS. HOW
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DOES THE ENGINEER DETERMINE EXACTLY WHERE TOOK PLACE OR SPEED TOP? IS IT AT A RESIDENCE REQUEST? IS IT SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL CAN FIGURE? CAN YOU ALL ANSWER THAT? IT'S A IT'S A NUMBER OF FACTORS. I DON'T KNOW IF STACY OR JEFF, I KNOW THAT WE LOOK AT THE DRIVEWAY LOCATIONS.DISTANCE TO INTERSECTIONS. IT'S MORE SITE SPECIFIC, BUT YOU MAY HAVE HEARD MUCH DRIVEWAY LOCATIONS. DRIVEWAY LOCATIONS. MANHOLES, UM. JUST JUST TAKING THE LOOKING AT THE BLOCK. AND LIKE I SAID, YOU HAVE. SOMETIMES YOU HAVE A SMALL BLOCK AND AGAINST AGAIN THE MINIMUM. SO YOU JUST TRY TO SPREAD THEM OUT IN A NOT HAVING TO CLOSE TO A STOP SIGN. JUST JUST DON'T TYPE OF CRITERIAS LIKE THAT. OKAY AND I KNOW WE EARLIER IN THE CONVERSATION. WE WERE DISCUSSING SOME COUNCIL DISTRICTS PAY FOR THEM. SOME DO NOT. UM AND I DON'T THINK EVERYONE IS AWARE OF THAT IF YOU COULD JUST TOUCH BASED ON THAT, FOR PEOPLE THAT MAY CALL PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTLY TO REQUEST SPEED HUMPS. CAN YOU AT LEAST ADDRESS THAT? YES DEFINITELY. UM SO LET US TAKE A LOOK. AND MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD MAKE MORE TRANSPARENT ON THE FRONT END IS AS FAR AS SPENDING THAT WOULD BE UP TO COUNCIL DISTRICT, OR THEY WOULD NEED TO BE SELF FUNDED BY THE APPLICANT OR SOME MIX THEREOF. SO WE COULD DEFINITELY ADD TO OUR WEBSITE TO THE POLICY MAKE IT MORE CLEAR THAT THAT IS THE SITUATION. THANK YOU. UM I'M JUST GOING TO EMPHASIZED THAT UH, I'M ENCOURAGED BY THE CHANGES THAT YOU ALL ARE MAKING, UM IS BETTER THAN NONE IS BETTER THAN NOTHING. AND CONTINUE TO DO THE GOOD WORK. PUBLIC SAFETY IS VERY , VERY IMPORTANT TO ME, ESPECIALLY IN SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS WERE.
UNFORTUNATELY WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT CAN MORE OR LESS MONITOR SPEEDING, SPEEDING. UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DO BEING CARRIAGE AND IF I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OUR MEETING IS ADJOURNED. THANK YOU.
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