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GOOD AFTERNOON AND WELCOME TO PLANNING ZONING COMMITTEE. I'M COUNCILWOMAN MADONNA FLOOD CHAIR[Roll Call]
OF THE COMMITTEE. I'M JOINED TODAY BY MY ADVICE, CHAIR COUNCILOR SCOTT READ BY COMMITTEE MEMBERS. COUNCILWOMAN JENNIFER CHAPEL COUNCILWOMAN BETSY RUI, COUNCIL MEMBER BINGO AND COUNCIL MEMBER A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SEAN. WE ARE ALSO JOINED BY COUNCILWOMAN TAMMY HAWKINS AND COUNCILMAN ANDREW COHEN, COUNCIL MEMBER BEN RAIN OR WHOEVER HAS AN EXCUSED ABSENCE.THIS MEETING IS BEING HELD PURSUANT TO KRS 61.826 AND CANCEL ROOM OF FIVE A OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS GOING TO BE AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE CLIFTON'S AND CRESCENT HILL AREA
[1. O-265-23 AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE CLIFTON AND CRESCENT HILL AREA PLAN AND APPROVING ITS EXECUTIVE SUMMARY AS AN AMENDMENT TO THE PLAN 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN (CASE NO. 23-AREA-0003). Action Required By: February 16, 2024 **Council Member Andrew Owen (D-9) can vote on this zoning change** Sponsors: Madonna Flood (D-24) ]
PLANNED AND APPROVING ITS EXECUTIVE SUMMARY AS AN AMENDMENT TO THE PLAN. 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CASE NUMBER 23 AREA 0003. PROPERLY MOVED IN SECOND. WE'RE READY FOR DISCUSSION. IF YOU'RE INTRODUCE YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD, PERFECT . THANK YOU. RACHEL CASEY, SENIOR PLANNER WITH GLOBAL METRO'S OFFICE OF PLANNING HERE TO DISCUSS 23 AREA 0003, THE EQUIPPED ANAND CRESCENT HILL AREA PLAN. SOME BACKGROUND ON THE PLAN. CLINTON AND CRESCENT HILL ARE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE NORTHEAST PORTION OF THE URBAN SERVICES DISTRICT. THERE ARE PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED PLANS FOR BOTH OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS BOTH ADOPTED IN 2002 SO AROUND 20 YEARS OLD. THESE ARE TO SERVE AS UPDATES TO BOTH OF THOSE PLANS. UM AND SO THIS CURRENT PLAN WILL REPLACE BOTH OF THOSE HMM. THE CLINTON AND CRESCENT HILL COMMUNITY COUNCILS AND FORMER METRO COUNCIL MEMBER BILL HOLLANDER OF DISTRICT NINE INITIATED THE PLANNING PROCESS IN EARLY 2022. THIS GIVES YOU. AN IDEA OF THE BOUNDARIES OF EACH NEIGHBORHOOD. UM I 64 LEXINGTON ROAD. CREATE THE BOUNDARY TO THE SOUTH. YOU HAVE ST MATTHEWS, THE CITY OF ST MATTHEWS TO THE EAST BROWNSBURG ROAD TO THE NORTH BELLWOOD AVENUE TO THE WEST AND FRANKFURT AVENUE RUNS RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE. AS WITH MANY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PLANS, WE HIRED A CONSULTANT TEAM TO HELP US WITH THIS PROJECT. THE CONSULTANTS FOR THIS PROJECT WHERE TAYLOR, STEVE WILLIAMS DESIGN GROUP AND HR CONSULTANTS. THIS GIVES YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE TIMELINE OF THE PLAN. AS I SAID, WE BEGAN THE PROCESS IN EARLY 2022. WE HAD FOUR ADVISORY GROUP MEETINGS THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS TO PUBLIC MEETINGS AND SHREDS. AND THEN, UM, WE ENDED UP IN THE PLAN ADOPTION PHASE IN SUMMER OF 2023 TOOK ABOUT A YEAR TO GET THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS. THIS PLAN HAD A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. LIKE MOST OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PLANS, THERE WAS AN ADVISORY GROUP. COMPRISED OF 21. MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY SPLIT ROUGHLY DOWN THE MIDDLE BETWEEN THE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS. THESE MEMBERS WERE RECOMMENDED BY THE COMMUNITY COUNCILS DISTRICT NINE METRO COUNCIL OFFICE AS WELL AS SOME PERSONAL REQUESTS. THERE WERE FOUR MEETINGS OF THE ADVISORY GROUP THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS OF THE CRESCENT HILL LIBRARY. WE HAD A SERIES OF COMMUNITY EVENTS DURING THE PROCESS. THERE WERE TWO IN AUGUST OF 2022. THIS WAS[00:20:05]
THE VISIONING STAGE WHERE WE HEARD ABOUT WHAT THE ISSUES, OPPORTUNITIES AND STRENGTHS WERE , UM, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE FIRST WAS THAT BINGHAM PARK. IN AUGUST, AND THE SECOND ONE WAS AT THE FRANKFURT AVENUE CICLOVIA EVENT. AFTER THAT, IN JANUARY OF 2023, WE HOSTED ANOTHER COMMUNITY OPEN HOUSE AT CRESCENT HILL UNITED METHODIST CHURCH TO REVIEW THE GOALS AND PRIORITIZE THE GOALS. IN MANY NEIGHBORHOODS , UM, ONLINE ENGAGEMENT IS NOT NECESSARILY AS SUCCESSFUL, BUT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS VERY ENGAGED. THESE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE VERY ENGAGED ONLINE. SO WE HAD A WEBSITE CLIPPED IN CRESCENT HILL PLAN .COM. THERE WAS AN INTERACTIVE MAP AND WE PERFORMED TWO ONLINE SURVEYS. UM YOU CAN SEE THERE ON THE GRAPHIC THAT THERE WERE OVER 5000 TOTAL VISITS TO THE TO THE WEBSITE AND ALMOST 270 SURVEY RESPONSES THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. THIS ISN'T THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY THAT GIVES YOU AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE HEARD MOST DURING THE PLANNING PROCESS AND WHAT THE FOCUS OF THE PLAN IS. YOU CAN SEE THAT, UM THREE OF THE FOUR MAJOR AREAS OF CONCERN HAD TO DO WITH MOBILITY AND TRANSPORTATION, AS WELL AS GREEN SPACE AND TREES.AND THEN THERE WERE A FEW OTHERS ALONG THE BOTTOM THERE THAT WERE IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY. THE VISION STATEMENT FOR THIS PLAN READS LIFTON AND CRESCENT HILL NEIGHBORHOODS, WELCOME PEOPLE OF ALL AGES, BACKGROUNDS AND ABILITIES WITH COMPASSION AND RESPECT WERE FAIRNESS, EQUITY AND PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY OR CORE VALUES OF THE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES ARE HISTORIC CHARACTER, SMALL BUSINESSES, ESTEEMED INSTITUTIONS AND UNIQUE ENVIRONMENT CREATE PLACES WHERE PEOPLE LOVE TO LIVE WORK AND VISIT. I'LL BRIEFLY TOUCH ON EACH OF THE FOUR SECTIONS OF THE PLAN. THERE ARE THREE REQUIRED SECTIONS, MOBILITY AND TRANSFERRING TRANSPORTATION, LAND USE AND COMMUNITY FORM AND HOUSING. AND THEN THERE IS 1/4 SECTION IN THIS PLAN CALLED QUALITY OF LIFE THAT ADDRESSES SOME OTHER CONCERNS THAT THE NEIGHBORS HAD MO. BUILDING AND INFRASTRUCTURE WAS THE MOST HEAVILY, UM COMMENTED UPON PLAN COMPONENT. UM AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S A SECTION FOR EACH MODE OF TRANSPORTATION. UM IMPROVE SAFETY FOR PEDESTRIANS, BICYCLISTS, IMPROVED ROAD CONDITIONS, UPGRADE PUBLIC TRANSIT AND DEVELOP SUSTAINABLE INFRASTRUCTURE. FOR LAND USE AND COMMUNITY FORM. THERE WERE TWO GOALS. TO PRESERVE HISTORIC HISTORIC AESTHETICS AND TO ENHANCE NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE BUSINESS CORRIDORS. IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO THESE TWO COMMUNITIES SINCE THEY ARE VERY HISTORIC COMMUNITIES, UM, THAT THE CLIFTON'S, UM COMMUNITY RETAIN THEIR LOCAL PRESERVATION DISTRICT AND THE CRESCENT HILL COMMUNITY MEMBERS MADE IT CLEAR UM THAT WHILE THEY WOULD NOT LIKE A LOCAL PRESERVATION DISTRICT, THEY WOULD LIKE RESOURCES AND TOOLS TO HELP PRESERVE THE HISTORIC BUILDINGS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. HOUSING HAD GOALS OF ENCOURAGING EQUITABLE HOUSING MARKET AND PRESERVE HISTORIC RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES. IT WAS IMPORTANT TO THESE NEIGHBORS, UM, THAT CLINTON AND CRESCENT HILL WERE AFFORDABLE NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, FOR EVERYONE TO LIVE IN AND THAT THERE WAS A RANGE OF HOUSING OPTIONS FOR ALL. AND THEN QUALITY OF LIFE CAPTURED A FEW DIFFERENT, UM, PIECES THAT DIDN'T FIT INTO THE OTHER PLAYING COMPONENTS THAT WAS ACTIVATE STREETSCAPES. EXPAND THE TREE CANOPY PROVIDE HIGH QUALITY GREEN SPACES, ENHANCED COMMUNITY SPACES AND STRENGTHEN COMMUNITY BONDS. 23 AREA. 0003 WAS HEARD AT PLANNING COMMISSION ON NOVEMBER 16TH 2023 PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF 23 AREA 0003 AND ADOPTION OF THE CLINTON AND CRESCENT HILL AREA PLAN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY AS AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN 2040 SUBSEQUENTLY, THE REQUIRED ACTIONS TODAY ARE FOR METRO COUNCIL PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE TO APPROVE OR DENY 23 AREA 0003 AND TO APPROVE OR DENY ADOPTION OF THE CLINTON AND CRESCENT HILL AREA PLAN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY AS AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN 2040 THANK YOU. HI COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL. HELLO. SORRY ASIDE FROM OBVIOUSLY COMBINING THE TWO PLANS CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT KIND OF CHANGES THAT YOU SAW HIM? IN WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTED FROM 2002 2. NOW I'M JUST CURIOUS. WHAT ARE THOSE DIFFERENCES BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF AN INDICATOR OF NOT ONLY A DISTRICT BUT A CITY ALONG ONE OF OUR BUSIEST CORRIDORS. SO CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WAS THERE A DIFFERENCE IN WHAT KIND OF HOUSING STOCK THAT THEY WANTED? A SHIFT IN BUSINESS IS JUST HOPING YOU COULD TALK TO THAT 20 YEAR DIFFERENCE. I THINK ONE OF THE MAIN CONCERNS REMAIN THE SAME FROM BOTH PLANS, WHICH WAS TO ENSURE HOUSING AFFORDABILITY AND DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING. UM I WOULD SAY THAT THE MAJOR CHANGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO WAS THAT FOCUS ON MOBILITY AND TRANSPORTATION. THERE WASN'T
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AS MUCH CONCERN IN THE 2002 PLANS ABOUT SAFETY AND TRANSPORTATION SAFETY. UM AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAJOR CONCERNS. UM AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE THREE OF THE FOUR MAJOR THINGS WE HEARD WERE RELATED TO TRANSPORTATION SAFETY. UM THEY WERE CONSISTENT, ACTUALLY, ACROSS THE 20 YEARS OF WANTING TO HAVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING WANTING TO PRESERVE THE TYPES OF HOUSING THAT ARE THERE. THESE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE MADE UP OF HISTORIC STRUCTURES LIKE I SAID, BUT THEY'RE MADE UP OF A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF STRUCTURES. THERE'S LOTS OF DUPLEXES TRIPLEX IS FOUR PLEX IS THAT SORT OF MIDDLE HOUSING AREA THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN PLANNING . THERE'S A LOT OF THAT IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THEY DESIRE TO PRESERVE THAT KIND OF HOUSING IN BOTH THE 2002 PLANS, AND IN THIS PLAN, I'D SAY THE MAJOR DIFFERENCE WAS THE TRANSPORTATION ASPECT. AND WHAT DO YOU SAY THAT WAS BECAUSE MORE ATTENTION WAS GIVEN TO IT OR A PROBLEM HAS GOTTEN WORSE. UM IT'S HARD TO SAY SINCE I WASN'T THERE 20 YEARS AGO, BUT I WOULD I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THE PROBLEM HAS PROBABLY GOTTEN WORSE. UM AS FAR AS THINGS LIKE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, UM AND BICYCLING, SAFETY OR CONCERNED, OBVIOUSLY NOT AS MANY PEOPLE WERE POTENTIALLY BIKING 20 YEARS AGO, AND THERE'S A LOT MORE PEOPLE WHO HAVE A DESIRE FOR THAT NOW IN THEIR COMMUNITY. UM AND SO I THINK THAT THAT HAS HAS RAISED AN ISSUE AND THEN I THINK, BECAUSE FRANKFORD AVENUE HAS ESTABLISHED SO MANY. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A LOCAL BUSINESS CORRIDOR. BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT STRENGTHENED OVER THAT TIME AS A LOCAL BUSINESS CORRIDOR, THERE'S MORE PEOPLE WALKING MORE PEOPLE WHO DESIRE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ALONG FRANKFORD AVENUE AND THEN I THINK THAT THERE HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, SOME HISTORIC DISINVESTMENT IN OUR ROADS IN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THAT'S PROBABLY CAUSE SOME OF THOSE ISSUES AS WELL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I JUST WANT TO MAKE A MAKE A COMMENT UNDER HOUSING. I NOTICED WHEN YOU WHEN YOU HAD IT ON THE SCREEN, AND IT'S IN OUR PACKET TO THAT SAYS THEN IT'S IMPORTANT TO HELP WITH MAINTENANCE ON OLDER HOMES IS IMPORTANT AND EXPENSIVE AND MOST REPAIRS. ARE UNIQUE. BECAUSE OF SIZE IN OUR SPECIAL BUILD. MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING. AND NOW THAT THERE ARE AGENCIES OUT THERE THAT HELP WITH, UM LIKE THAT HELP WITH DIFFERENT THINGS WHEN IT COMES TO FIXING UP HOUSES, BUT MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL NEEDS TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT KEEPING PEOPLE IN OLDER PARTS OF THIS COMMUNITY, UH IN ORDERS NEIGHBORHOODS AND GET IT'S NOT JUST THE HOUSING MARKET GOING UP PRICES NEXT TO HIM. IT'S WHAT IT COSTS TO KEEP FOR THEM TO STAY IN THAT HOUSE BECAUSE OF THE REPAIRS BECAUSE SOME OF THE HOUSES ARE SO VERY OLD, ESPECIALLY DOWN. DOWN YOU KNOW, WEST OF NINTH STREET, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE PROBABLY NEED TO TAKE A CLOSE LOOK AT AGAIN AT BUDGET TIME IS BECAUSE IF WE REALLY TRULY WANT TO KEEP PEOPLE IN THEIR HOUSES, WE HAVE TO MAKE IT AFFORDABLE FOR THEM TO STAY IN THEIR HOMES. SORRY.NO, THANK YOU. THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT. OKAY? OH, THANK YOU CHAIR. UM SO THESE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS ARE IN THE NINTH DISTRICT. AND FIRST I WANTED TO THANK RACHEL FOR SPEARHEADING THIS, UH, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. UM IT'S A LOT OF WORK. AND SHE'S DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB. SO I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. I ALSO WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THESE TO NEIGHBORHOODS ARE VERY DISTINCT NEIGHBORHOODS AND I WANTED TO SAY HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE THEM WORKING TOGETHER ON THIS NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, NOT ONLY BECAUSE IT SAVED THE NINTH DISTRICT MONEY FROM NOT HAVING TO DO TO TWO SEPARATE PLANS, BUT I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT WHEN WE'RE DEFINING NEIGHBORHOODS AND HOW WE WANT THESE NEIGHBORHOODS TO LOOK IN THE FUTURE THAT WE CAN BE COOPERATIVE AND THAT ONE SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS IN ONE NEIGHBORHOOD DOES AFFECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEXT DOOR AND BY HAVING THE GROUPS WORK TOGETHER. I THINK IT MAKES IT A STRONG NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN OVERALL, BUT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS EASILY. AND I'M LOOKING AT YOU, COUNCILMAN BAKER WHEN YOU HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND OLD LOUISVILLE, EACH BLOCK HAS A DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND HAVE A HARD TIME WORKING TOGETHER. I MEAN, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS EASILY, SO I WANTED TO GIVE KUDOS TO THE LEADERSHIP. AND THE RESIDENTS OF BOTH CLIFTON AND CRESCENT HILL FOR BEING ABLE TO DO THIS. UM I AGAIN. I THINK IT'S THEY'RE VERY DISTINCT NEIGHBORHOODS BUT BECAUSE THEY SHARE SOME SIMILARITIES AND HOUSING STOCK. THEY SHARE THE COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR OF FRANKFURT AVENUE RUNNING RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE OF BOTH NEIGHBORHOODS. THE NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN BOUNDARIES ARE SHARED, UM, BROWN'S BURROW AND LEXINGTON. UM THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE ALSO SIMILAR
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ABOUT IT, AND SO I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT WE WERE ABLE TO PUT THIS TOGETHER COMBINING THE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS AND I KNOW EVERYONE IN THE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS IS EXCITED TO GET THIS PLAN ADOPTED AND TO. IT'S BEEN 20 YEARS, SO IT'S NICE TO HAVE HAVE AN UPDATED AND TO BE ABLE TO WORK FROM IT GOING FORWARD. SO THANKS FOR ALL THE WORK, AND I WOULD APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS. YES, THANK YOU. A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT YOU SAID THAT JUST KIND OF STRIKE ME AND I'M SO HONORED TO WHO YOU SAY THAT YOU SAID COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT. YOU SAID THAT THERE WAS A LINE OF COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT, AND THERE WERE A LOT OF DIVERSE HOUSING.RIGHT CAN YOU TELL ME SOME OF THE THINGS ON WHY WAS IT SO IMPORTANT? WHEN SPEAKING TO THE COMMUNITY? UH, WHY DIVERSE, HEALTHY. YOU KNOW, AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY REALLY WANTED TO SEE, SUCH AS YOU SAID TOWN HOMES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WHY WHY WAS THAT SO IMPORTANT TO THE SURE I THINK IT WAS. YOU KNOW, WE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOUSING AND THESE NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE THEY THEY WANT THEIR COMMUNITIES TO BE DIVERSE. THEY WANT THEIR COMMUNITY TO BE DIVERSE. RACIALLY THEY WANT THEIR COMMUNITIES TO BE DIVERSE SOCIOECONOMICALLY. UM BUT THERE'S ALWAYS A BALANCE BETWEEN UNDERSTANDING WHAT THAT TAKES.
AND, UM WHAT PEOPLE MIGHT PERCEIVE THAT IT TAKES SO WE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING, ENCOURAGE AFFORDABILITY AND ENCOURAGE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PEOPLE TO LIVE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. AND SO IT ACTUALLY IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WAS SUPER SIMPLE RIGHT OFF THE BAT. THEY CAME TO US, AND THEY SAID, WE WANT OUR COMMUNITY TO BE DIVERSE. WE WANT OUR COMMUNITY TO BE AFFORDABLE TO EVERYONE. BUT THEN WE HAD TO HAVE SORT OF SOME SOME EDUCATION AND SOME LEARNING MOMENTS ABOUT WHAT THAT TAKES IN A COMMUNITY AND HOW, UM IT CAN'T JUST BE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN THE COMMUNITY AND THAT BE UNAFFORDABLE AND A DIVERSE PLACE. AND SO ESPECIALLY WITH THE ADVISORY GROUP. UM WE HAD A WE HAD A FIVE HOUR ADVISORY GROUP MEETING ONE TIME WHERE WE WHERE WE HAD A BIG DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS AND HOW IT TAKES ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING, NOT JUST SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND NOT JUST THE GIANT TYPES OF APARTMENTS. UM, THAT YOU MIGHT SEE ON FRANKFURT AVENUE OR BROWN'S BOROUGH ROAD MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE THERE. BUT THERE'S OTHER TYPES OF HOUSING THAT ARE APPROPRIATE WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WOULD HELP ENCOURAGE THAT DIVERSITY AND AFFORDABILITY. AND EVENTUALLY, WE GOT TO THE POINT. I THINK WE WORKED REALLY HARD ON COMING TO A CONSENSUS BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND AS COUNCILMAN, OWEN SAID, UM, THERE WAS A LOT OF YOU KNOW, DIFFERENCES IN EACH NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHAT ONE NEIGHBORHOOD FELT AND WHAT THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD FELT. UM AND SO IT WAS. IT WAS A JOURNEY. IT WAS A LONG PROCESS, AND IT WAS AN ONGOING PROCESS FOR US TO COME TO THIS COMMUNITY CONSENSUS THAT'S ACTUALLY IN THE DOCUMENT. BUT YOU WOULD SAY THAT COMMUNITY'S INPUT HAD A HAD A BIG PART. ABSOLUTELY 100% BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID, THEY CAME TO US AND ONE OF THE INITIAL THINGS AND THAT VISIONING STAGE IN AUGUST OF 2022 THAT THEY SAID WAS WE WANT THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO BE AFFORDABLE FOR EVERYONE. WE WANT THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO BE DIVERSE, AND WE JUST HAD TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS TO GET US TO THE POINT OF SAYING, WELL, THIS IS HOW WE ACHIEVE THAT GOAL. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY. ABSOLUTELY. COUNCIL MEMBER OWEN. I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT BECAUSE IT'S A GREAT POINT WE DO IN THE NINTH DISTRICT, MAYBE MORE THAN ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY HAVE A DIVERSITY OF HOUSING STOCK, AND SOME OF IT IS GONNA GET ACCIDENT OF HISTORY BECAUSE IN 74, THE TORNADO CAME THROUGH RIGHT THROUGH OUR DISTRICT AND TOUR THROUGH MANY, MANY HOUSES. AND WHEN THOSE WERE REPLACED, A LOT OF THEM WERE REPLACED WITH APARTMENTS OR DUPLEXES OR FOUR PLEX IS OR DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING FROM SHOTGUNS TO 203 100 UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX IS A LOT OF 22 PLAQUES. THREE PLUS FOUR PLEX. SOME 3 $4 MILLION HOMES. WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING. UM WHICH IS FANTASTIC, AND SOME OF IT IS AN ACCIDENT OF HISTORY.
AND SOME OF IT IS JUST KIND OF HAPPENSTANCE THAT THAT THAT THAT IT HAPPENED THAT WAY, BUT THE TRUTH IS I'M BRAGGING ON MY DISTRICT. BUT IF THE REST OF THE CITY LOOKED MORE HOUSING STOCK LOOKED MORE LIKE OURS IN IN THAT IT WAS IT WAS VERY DIVERSE LIKE THAT. I THINK WE WOULD BE BETTER OFF THANKS FOR POINTING IT OUT IMPORTANT. UH, I FORGOT. I FAILED TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE WERE JOINED AS SOON AS WE STARTED THIS DISCUSSION BY COUNCIL MEMBER BAKER, WHO'S BEEN HERE. I HAVE NO ONE ELSE IN IN THE CUTEST SPEAK, DOES ANY ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR
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COMMENTS BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE VOTE? OKAY, WE ARE READY TO VOTE.COMMITTEE MEMBER CHAPEL. THANK YOU. WITHOUT OBJECTION. VOTING IS CLOSING. THERE ARE SEVEN YES VOTES. COUNCILMAN OWEN THIS CAN GO TO CONSENT CALENDAR AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING RATHER THAN OLD BUSINESS. WHAT IS YOUR PREFERENCE HERE? I'D REALLY RATHER GO TO OLD BUSINESS JUST SO I CAN MAKE A QUICK KIND OF GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR PARTICIPATING AND FOR WORKING TOGETHER COMPLETELY UNDERSTANDABLE, SO THIS WILL GO TO OLD BUSINESS AT OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. THANKS. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR ASKING. I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE WELCOME. OUR NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS AN ORGANIST RELATING TO THE ZONING OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 66 04 BARDSTOWN ROAD CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 0.63 ACRES AND BEING IN LOVE OF METRO
[2. O-268-23 AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE ZONING OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 6604 BARDSTOWN ROAD CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 0.63 ACRES AND BEING IN LOUISVILLE METRO (CASE NO. 23ZONE0113). Action Required By: February 2, 2024 Sponsors: Madonna Flood (D-24) ]
CASE NUMBER 23 ZONES, 0113. SECOND PROPERLY MADE BY COUNCILMAN BUT SEAN SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BAKER. WE'RE READY FOR DISCUSSION AFTERNOON. BRIAN DAVID SILVA METRO PLAYING IN DESIGN. THIS IS PLAYING COMMISSION DOCTOR NUMBER 23 ZONE 113 FOR 66 04 BARDSTOWN ROAD PROPERTY IS 66 0404 BARS TOWN ROAD IS LOCATED METRO COUNCIL DISTRICT 22. THIS IS AN AERIAL PHOTO AND OUTLINE OF THE PROPERTY. YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING STRUCTURE THAT EXISTS, I THINK CURRENTLY OFFICE THE AFRICA IS REQUESTING TO CHANGE IN ZONING WHERE THEY WOULD OPERATE A AUTO SALES. THAT WOULD BE PRIMARILY ONLINE. UH, AS AS THEY DESCRIBED IT AT THE PUBLIC HEARING. THIS IS THE ZONING MAP OF THE AREA AS SO, AS YOU CAN SEE ALONG BARDSTOWN ROAD, YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF COMMERCIALLY ZONED PARCELS. THIS ONE IS CURRENTLY ZONED ARE ONE THEY ARE REQUESTING THE CHANGE THAT ZONING DESIGNATION TO SEE TO COMMERCIAL SO THE REQUEST BEFORE WE USED TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM WHO ARE ONE C TWO? UH PREVIOUSLY STATED THAT'S CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH THE COMMERCIAL OFFICE STRUCTURE. THEY ARE NOT PROPOSING ANY NEW CONSTRUCTION ON THE ON THE PROPOSED SITE AROUND THE SITE, UM THE PROPOSED USES AUTO SALES AND THEN THEY WILL HAVE A SMALL AREA THAT THEY'VE OUTLINED ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A DISPLAY AREA. WHICH YOU CAN SEE HERE. SO AGAIN. THIS IS THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. YOU SEE THE OUTLINE OF THE PROPERTY AND THE EXISTING BUILDING ON THE SOUTH AND THEN BASICALLY THE THESE PARKING SPACES HERE ON THE NORTHERN PART OF THE SITE THOSE WOULD BE DESIGNATED FOR DISPLAY AREA. UH AND SO THAT'S THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THERE WOULD NOT BE ANY KIND OF CHANGE TO THE EXISTING ENTRANCE TO AND FROM BARDSTOWN ROAD. THIS IS A PHOTO GOOGLE STREET VIEW PHOTO FROM BARDSTOWN ROAD LOOKING INTO THE SIDE SO YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING BUILDING THERE AND THEN THAT DISPLAY AREA WOULD KIND OF BE WHERE THAT VAN IS GOING BACK. THE APPLICANT BLOATED, CONDUCTED THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING ON JULY 12TH 2023 L E N T MEETING WAS ON OCTOBER 12TH 2023 AND THEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING WAS ON NOVEMBER 2ND, UH, THE MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL. THE CHANGING ZONING FROM O R. 12 C TWO PASSED BY A VOTE OF 8 TO 0. THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? THANK YOU. THIS IS IN COUNCILMAN ENGLISH DISTRICT. DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? CATHERINE ANGLE, I THINK. THANK YOU, MADAM CHARITY UNANIMOUS DECISION COMMISSION IT LEGITIMATE FOR THE AREA. AND SO I WOULD ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. CAN I ASK A QUESTION OF YOU, MISS TRAINED, NOT KATZMAN ANGLE, SINCE THIS IS GOING TO SEE TO WHICH HAS A. LARGE VARIETY OF THINGS THAT CAN GO INTO C TWO. WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE THAT WE ENDED OUR STANDARD BINDING ELEMENT? JUST IN CASE YES, ABSOLUTELY SURPRISED. I DIDN'T ACTUALLY ASK FOR THAT MYSELF. WE SHOULD PROBABLY BE IN THE HABIT OF ASKING FOR THAT. BUT THANK[00:40:02]
YOU, MADAM. SURE YOU'RE AFTER YOU'VE GOT OUR BACK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HAPPY TO READ THAT IN ANY SIGNIFICANT INCREASES TO THE PRO STRUCTURES INCREASES IN BUILDING HEIGHT, NUMBER OF UNITS , NUMBER OF BUILDINGS AND THE INCREASE IN DENSITY ON THE PROPERTY, AND HE CHANGED IN USING THE PROPERTY, WHICH DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR SUBCOMMITTEE THEREOF IN OR ANY AMENDMENT TO THE BONDING ELEMENTS OTHER THAN I, THE ADDITIONAL DEFINING ELEMENTS TO I CHANGES DEFINING ELEMENTS THAT MERELY UPDATE THE PUBLIC HEARING DATE. OR THREE. I UPDATING THE PREVIOUS VERSION OF THIS BINDING ELEMENT TO REFLECT THE CURRENT LANGUAGE SHALL BE REVIEWED BEFORE METRO BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WITH FINAL ACTION TO BE DETERMINED BY METRO COUNCIL. SECOND THAT BINDING AILMENT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE BITING ELEMENT SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE. POSED BY LIKE SIGN HEARING THEM THE MOTION PASSES OR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THIS. YES, COUNCILWOMAN RUI THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M LOOKING AT THE STRUCTURE HERE IN A CLEARLY LOOKS LIKE AN OFFICE BUILDING. UH, HOW MUCH CHANGE ARE THEY EXPECTED TO DO TO IT TO TURN IT INTO AN AUTO DEALERSHIP? IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE YOU'RE PREPARED TO DRIVE CARS INTO IT AND SHOW THEM OFF ON THE SHOWROOM FLOOR. IS EVERYTHING GOING TO BE OUTSIDE? EVERYTHING WILL BE OUTSIDE. THEY WILL DO NO, LIKE CAR PREP OR CLEANING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT ON THE SITE, UM, THEY DEAL PRIMARILY ONLINE, BUT JUST WITH THE WAY THAT STATE LAWS ARE AS FAR AS COMMERCIAL COMMERCIAL AUTO SALES GO, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT AND SO IT WILL NOT LOOK LIKE YOUR STANDARD CAR LOT THAT YOU THINK OF IN TERMS OF THERE BEING LIKE A SERVICE MAY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THEY WILL NOT HAVE ANY OF THOSE TYPES OF ACTIVITIES ON THE SITE. THANK YOU. YOU CAN TELL.I'M NOT MOVING THAT FAST FORWARD WITH SELLING CARS OR PICK PICKING THEM OUT OF THE VENDING MACHINES. I LIKE GOING IN AND KICKING THE TIRES AND DRIVING SEVERAL DIFFERENT CARS. I WILL NEVER. I WILL NEVER GET TO THAT POINT. YEAH. CARBONNEAU THERE. I GOT I GOT TO GET THAT FEEL.
THANK YOU. OKAY, WE'RE READY TO VOTE. WITHOUT OBJECTION. VOTING IS CLOSING. THERE ARE SEVEN YES VOTES, AND THIS WILL GO TO A BUSINESS THAT OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS AN ORDINANCE RELATED TO THE ZONING OF PROPERTY, LOCATED AT 3560 BASHFORD AVENUE CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 2.02 ACRES AND BEING A LITTLE METRO CASE NUMBER 23 ZONE, 0107. PROPERLY MADE BY COUNCILMAN RUI, SECOND BACK COUNCIL MEMBER BAKER. WE'RE READY FOR DISCUSSION. OKAY, THIS IS PLAYING COMMISSION DOCKET NUMBER 23 ZONE 107 FOR TM GROUP.
[3. O-269-23 AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE ZONING OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3560 BASHFORD AVENUE CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 2.02 ACRES AND BEING IN LOUISVILLE METRO (CASE NO. 23ZON0107). Action Required By: February 2, 2024 **Council Member Pat Mulvihill (D-10) can vote on this zoning change** Sponsors: Madonna Flood (D-24) ]
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 3560 BASHFORD AVENUE, IS LOCATED METRO COUNCIL DISTRICT 10. THIS IS AN AERIAL PHOTO OF THE SITE. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S CURRENTLY BEING UTILIZED. THE CURRENT OCCUPANT IS THE ONE REQUESTING THE CHANGE IN ZONING. SO IN THE USEFUL REMAIN THE SAME. UM THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF BACHELORETTE AVENUE IN SHEPHERDSVILLE ROAD.THIS IS A AERIAL OR AN OUT OF THERE. THIS IS THE ZONING MAP OF THE AREA. YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY OUTLINED IN RED HERE. SO THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY, UM , ZONE P R O, WHICH IS PLANNED RESEARCH OFFICE. THEY'RE REQUESTING THE CHANGE THAT THE P E C, WHICH IS PLANNED EMPLOYMENT CENTER. THE BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE IS P R O PERMITS SOMEONE USES AND PC PERMITS, SEE ONE AND M TWO. UM, THIS IS A SIMILAR WE HAD A SIL RUE FOR THE PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH IN WHICH THEY WENT FROM P R 02 PIECE THAT WAS APPROVED THE CASE NUMBERS BACK IN 2017 TO KIND OF GIVE YOU TIME FRAME OF WHEN THAT CHANGED, BUT THE AFRICANS REQUESTING THAT CHANGE IN ORDER TO CONTINUE TO UTILIZE THE PROPERTY IN A WAY THAT THEY CURRENTLY ARE. UM SO THE REQUEST IS A CHANGING CHANGING ZONING FROM P R 02 P E. C. UM, THERE EXPLAINED EXPANDING THE EXISTING CONTRACTORS SHOP WITH OUTDOOR STORAGE PROPERTIES, APPROXIMATELY TWO ACRES, THE EXISTING AS ACCESS FROM BASHFORD AVENUE WILL REMAIN. THIS IS THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AT THE AFRICAN PROVIDED SO YOU HAVE THE EXISTING BUILDING HERE. THEY'RE PROPOSING IN ADDITION TO ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THAT PROPERTY OF THE BUILDING, SO YOU HAVE THE ADDITION THE EXPRESSION OF THE BUILDING AND THEN THE PARKING AREA WHICH IS CURRENTLY LOCATED IN THIS VICINITY OF THE SITE WILL BE MOVED FORWARD TO THE FRONT OF THE SITE, AND SO THEY WOULD HAVE PARKING AT THE FRONT AND THEN YOU'D HAVE LIKE A MANEUVERABILITY. AREA IN FRONT OF THE PROPOSED EXPANSION. SO THIS IS A GOOGLE STREET VIEW PHOTO OF THE BUILDING SO YOU CAN SEE HOW IT CURRENTLY EXISTS.
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THIS IS LOOKING FROM SHEPHERD'S ILL ROAD TOWARDS THE WEST INTO THE SITE. THIS IS THE SUBJECT BUILDING RIGHT HERE ON THE LEFT. THESE ARE SOME ADJACENT PROPERTIES THAT ARE LOCATED ACROSS SHAPERS VILLE ROAD FROM THE SITE. THIS IS THE PROPERTY THAT'S IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY REZONED IN A SIMILAR MANNER FROM P R O P. E C. THIS IS ANOTHER ADJACENT SITE ON SHEPHERDSVILLE ROAD. AND THEN THIS IS THE ADJACENT SITE TO THE WEST ON BACHELOR AVENUE. THEY HAVE CONDUCTED THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING ON JULY 17TH 2023. THE LAND DEVELOPMENT TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE MEETING WAS OCTOBER 12TH PLAYING COMMISSION. PUBLIC HEARING WAS ON NOVEMBER 2ND. UH AND THE PLANNING COMMISSIONS MOTION WAS TO APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR THE CHANGE IN ZONING FROM P R O P. E C THAT PASSED BY A VOTE OF 8 TO 0. THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? NOT THAT THIS REALLY MATTERS, BUT IT'S IN COUNCIL DISTRICT. TOM SCOTT THOMAS. I GUESS IT'S GOT HIS TOM MOTHER HILLS, PAT MOBILE. DID I PUT TOM ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS. I DID GET AN EMAIL FROM COUNCILMAN MARBLE HILL, WHO IS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS EXPANSION OF THIS, THIS PROPERTY, EVERYONE ELSE HAVING A COUNCIL MEMBER CHAPEL. THAT'S OKAY. UM. COULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT A P E C PLANNED EMPLOYMENT CENTER ZONING IS AND WHY THAT HOW THAT VARIES FROM THEIR CURRENT ZONING, SO IT'S A IT ALLOWS IT'S A LITTLE MORE DIVERSE AGAIN. THE P R O. IT BASICALLY PERMITS IN ONE AND THEN A HANDFUL OF OTHER USES THAT ARE LISTENING THAT DISTRICT THE P E. C OPENS IT UP TO SEE ONE AS WELL AS M TWO. SO YOU GET A WIDER VARIETY OF USES THAT ARE PERMITTED ON THE SITE. BUT THEN ALSO THE ACTIVITY THAT THEY'RE DOING ON THERE DOESN'T NECESSARILY COMPLY WITH THE M ONE. AND SO THEY'RE LOOKING TO BRING IT INTO COMPLIANCE WITH AS THEY AS THEY DO THIS EXPANSION. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE SEEN IN THAT AREA WHERE YOU HAVE BECAUSE YOU HAVE KIND OF LIKE A SPLIT OF THE ZONING IN THAT AREA. THAT'S P R O P E C AND I THINK SOME OF THE USES KIND OF GOT BLURRED. AND THE ZONING ATLANTA GOT BLURRED. AND SO, UH, THEY CAME IN, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT EXPANSION. WHEN WILL YOUR ZONING DOESN'T MATCH UP? YOU NEED TO BRING IT INTO COMPLIANCE. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. IF I HAD A DOLLAR FOR EVERY TIME I FEEL LIKE YOU ALL MADE UP OF ZONING. NOW IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CALLED, THEN YOU LOOK AT ALL THE ALL THE CATEGORIES THAT WE HAVE.AND THEN YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT WHATEVER YOU CHANGES, OWNING TO ANYTHING OF A LESSER ZONING CAN GO INTO THAT MORE INTENSE SONY, SO IT'S AN ARRAY OF THINGS THAT CAN GO IN THERE AND FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. WE HAVE VERY FEW. I DON'T THINK I'VE SEEN A SINGLE PROPERTY REZONED TO PRS AND I'VE BEEN HERE. IT'S LIKE IT'S LIKE, YEAH, IT'S NOT USED OFTEN. NO UM AND BUT QUITE A FEW PROPERTY MOVEMENT, THE PC FOR THAT SORT OF COMMERCIAL MANUFACTURING FLEXIBILITY THAT SEEMS IN HIGH DEMAND RIGHT NOW. WE HAD A LOT OF PLANNED EMPLOYMENT CENTERS. I THINK PREVIOUSLY LIKE MAYBE WHEN MERGED, YOUR FIRST HAPPENED, LIKE AT THE J TOWN AREA WHEN THERE WAS A LOT OF EXPANSION OF THOSE BIG INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL CENTERS. UM I THINK IT'S CLOSE TO USED TO BE CALLED THE MARRIOTT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT HOTEL IS OUT THERE. IT'S RIGHT ON THE BRINK OF IT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEFORE WE VOTE. YES. DID YOU HAVE A NO, GO AHEAD. MY QUESTION WAS JUST TO THE GENERAL CONVERSATION OF SO WE'RE MOVING TO THIS NEW ZONING.
HOW DOES THAT ALIGNED WITH THE 2040 VISION, YOU KNOW? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS MORE ATTRACTIVE FOR COMPANIES OR IS IT JUST ONE SPECIFIC TYPE OF CLASSIFICATION? I THINK IT MAKES THE PROPERTY MORE ATTRACTIVE BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE A WIDER VARIETY OF USES ARE PERMITTED THERE. IT'S A ZONING CLASSIFICATION THAT'S ALREADY IN THAT VICINITY AND IN THAT AREA, AND SO, REALLY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE AT THE THAT WHOLE PINK AREA ON THE ZONING MAP A LOT OF THOSE ARE VERY SIMILAR TYPES OF USES. AND SO IT KIND OF BRINGS IT MORE INTO THE KEEPING OF THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA THERE SHOULD WE BE FROM A COUNCIL STANDPOINT, AND I'M JUST SPITBALLING ON THIS. SHOULD IT BE SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW, IN YOUR OPINION, UM, THAT THE COUNCIL SHOULD BE LOOKING AT MORE AND SWITCHING THAT ZONING, TOO. TO MAKE IT MORE. INVITING FOR DEVELOPMENTS IN THOSE CERTAIN TYPE AREAS OR MORE FLEXIBLE, I THINK, WELL AS I WAS PUTTING THIS TOGETHER TO MYSELF, I THINK IT'D BE INTERESTING TO LOOK AT THOSE OTHER P R O PROPERTIES THAT ARE OVER THERE AND SEE IF THE USES DO INDEED MATCH UP WITH THAT. AND IF THAT
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SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD MAYBE EXPLORED IS MAKING ALL THAT EEC BUT AS A COMMUNITY WIDE, I DON'T THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE. WE SHOULD BE DOING JUST LIKE AS AN AREA WIDE REZONING, BUT BUT AGAIN, IT MAY BE AN INTERESTING LOOK AT THIS PARTICULAR AREA. TO SEE IF IT IS BEING USED AS P. R O IF THOSE ARE BEING USED AS PR, BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE ARE FIVE TO THE SOUTH IMMEDIATELY, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE RAILROAD. AND SO IT'S YEAH, IN THE CONTEXT OF JUST LIKE THE COMMENTING. I'M ALWAYS LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES OF MODELS. EXAMPLE OF WHAT WORKS. WHAT DOESN'T WORK SO NOW GIVING YOU ALL MORE WORK? I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING ABOUT AN OUTSTANDING JOB. BUT IF THE TIME EVER COMES WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT, PLEASE SHARE IT WITH US. BECAUSE WE LOVE THAT DATA TO SEE YOU KNOW, IT'S THIS LOW HANGING FRUIT AND MAKING SMALL CHANGES TO JUST IMPROVE THE ZONING ACROSS THE BOARD FOR JEFFERSON COUNTY, SO THANK YOU.THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT. I THINK WE'RE READY TO VOTE, SHERIFF. WITHOUT OBJECTION.
VOTING IS CLOSING. THERE ARE SEVEN YES VOTES, AND THIS WILL GO TO OH BUSINESS THAT OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING MOVIE NINE TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS AN ORDINANCE AND RELATED TO THE
[4. O-247-23 AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE REVISED DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 6001 OUTER LOOP CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 15.16 ACRES AND BEING IN LOUISVILLE METRO (CASE NO. 23DDP0078). 10/31/23 Planning and Zoning Committee Tabled Action Required By April 2024 Sponsors: Madonna Flood (D-24) ]
REVISED DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 6001 HOUR LATER CONTAIN THEM REQUIRE APPROXIMATELY 15.16 ACRES AND BEING A LITTLE METRO CASE NUMBER 23 D D P. 0078.MOTION APPROVED. UM MOTION ON TABLE. I'M SORRY. SECOND PROBABLY MADE THAT COUNCIL IN ENGLAND'S SECOND BACK. COUNCILMAN BAKER ARE READY FOR DISCUSSION. YOU NEED ME TO GO OVER THIS ONE AGAIN OR MIGHT NEED TO. THIS WAS ACTUALLY IN MY DISTRICT IN I HAD THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, UH, CONTACT THE APPLICANT FOR A COUPLE OF BINDING ELEMENTS. THIS IS A CHANGE OF DEVELOPMENT PLAN. I THINK A COUPLE OF THE BUILDINGS ARE GOING TO BE FOUR STORY. THIS IS PROBABLY THE HIGHEST POINT AFTER THIS 100 TIMES. HIGHEST POINT IN LOUISVILLE AND ANXIOUS TO SEE WHAT THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY WILL LOOK LIKE, BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE THE CITY OF LOUISVILLE FROM THAT POINT IN HAVING, UM IN FACT, IT USED TO BE ONE OF THE GO TO PLACES WHEN THEY OWE HIGHLIGHTS. SWIMMING POOL WAS THERE THAT PEOPLE WOULD GO THERE DURING? UM THUNDER OVER LOUISVILLE BECAUSE YOU COULD JUST PICNIC OUT ON THE GROUNDS AND SEE EVERYTHING GOING ON IN THE CITY OF LOUISVILLE, SO I'M ANXIOUS TO SEE THE FINISHED PRODUCT THERE, BUT I HAD A COUPLE OF BINDING ELEMENTS TO ADD, UM WHICH DO YOU WANT TO READ THEM, TRAVIS, OR DO YOU WANT ME TO DO IT? I'M HAPPY TO GO AHEAD. UM SO THE THERE'S AN EXISTING BODY ELEMENT. 13 I DID A LITTLE BIT OF REORDERING HERE. SO THE NEW BUNNY ELEMENT WITH 13 WOULD READ. THE DEVELOPMENT SHALL BE LIMITED 262 DWELLING UNITS. UM AND THEN WE'RE BUMPING THE EXISTING 13 DOWN TO 14 SCRATCHING THE EXISTING LANGUAGE . THAT WAS THE OLD STANDARD BINDING ELEMENT. WE'VE SINCE UPDATED IT AND SO INSERTING THE NEW LANGUAGE, WHICH IS ANY SIGNIFICANT INCREASES TO THE PROPOSED STRUCTURES. E G INCREASES IN BUILDING HEIGHT NUMBER UNITS, MEMBER BUILDINGS, ANY INCREASE IN DENSITY IN THE PROPERTY ANY CHANGES IN USE ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY REQUIRED PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR SOME COMMITTEE THEREOF AND OR ANY AMENDMENTS TO THE BINDING ELEMENTS. OTHER THAN I EDITION OF NEW BINDING ELEMENTS TO I CHANGES DEFINING ELEMENTS THAT MERELY UPDATE THE PUBLIC HEARING DATE OR THREE. I UPDATING A PREVIOUS VERSION OF THIS BINDING ELEMENT TO REFLECT CURRENT LANGUAGE. SHALL WE REVIEWED BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WITH FINAL ACTION TO BE DETERMINED BY METRO COUNCIL? AND I MOVED THOSE TWO BINDING ELEMENTS. PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE BINDING ELEMENT SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE AYE, THOSE OPPOSED BY LIKE SIGN HEARING NONE. THE MOTION CARRIES, UM. DID ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY? SAYING NONE. THIS IS A NEW COMPANY. I BELIEVE TO COME INTO LOUISVILLE, UM, DEVELOPMENT COMPANY IN THE, UH UH, SO I'M ANXIOUS TO SEE. UM WHAT WE GET BECAUSE THE PROPERTIES ALL OVER THE NATION LOOKED EXTREMELY STATIC ON THE OUTSIDE, SO I'M EXCITED. WE'RE READY TO VOTE.
IT'S OKAY. YEAH I ALWAYS WANTED. WITHOUT OBJECTION, IT WASN'T WITHOUT. I JUST DID SOMETHING. I LOST MY SCREWING WITHOUT OBJECTION. VOTING IS CLOSING. I BELIEVE THERE'S SEVEN. YES, ABOUT IT'LL GO TO A BUSINESS AT OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, AN
[5. O-273-23 AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE DECISION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO APPROVE THE REVISED DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROPOSED IN CASE NO. 23-DDP-0034 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4516 CANE RUN ROAD. Action Required By: May 2024 Sponsors: Tammy Hawkins (D-1) ]
ORDINANCE RELATED TO THE DECISION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO APPROVE THE REVISED DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROPOSED IN CASE NUMBER 23 D D. P 0034 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4516 CAME RUN ROAD. SECOND. PROBLEM IS THAT COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL SENKENBERG[00:55:07]
COUNCILMAN BAKER, WE'RE READY FOR DISCUSSION. OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON. UM SAYS PLAYING QUESTION DR. NUMBER 23 D D P. 34 FOR THE PATH OF CAME RUN. SO THIS IS LOCATED 4516 CANE RUN ROAD LOCATED METRO COUNCIL DISTRICT ONE THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY VACANT, PROPOSING RESIDENTIAL ELEMENT ON THIS SITE. THE. EXISTING ZONING IS R FIVE. A AND THIS IS NOT ITS OWN CHANGE IS A REVISED RETAIL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE SITE, SO THERE ARE NO PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE ZONING OR THE PHONE DISTRICT AT THIS TIME. SO THE REQUEST BEFORE USE THE REVISED DETAILED DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THE ATHLETES IS PROPOSING TO CREATE 128 UNITS FOR THE MULTI FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. THEY ARE PROVIDING OPEN SPACE AND PRESERVING EXISTING TREE CANOPY ON THE SITE . THERE WILL BE ONE PROPOSED ACCESS POINT FROM KENDRA AND ROAD. UH, THE, UH. THAT SLIDE TO THE SLIDE HISTORY HERE, BUT SO THE SITE WAS ORIGINALLY REZONED TO OFFICE IN 2015. THIS IS THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WAS PROPOSED AS PART OF THAT APPLICATION. IN 2022. THE PROPERTY CHANGED HANDS IN THE NEW OWNER CAME THROUGH WITH A PROPOSAL TO, UM DEVELOP, UH, ATTACHED TOWN HOME RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THE SIDE. UH THIS IS THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN HERE AND THEN SO THE AT THIS TIME THE APPLICANT IS PRO, PROPOSING TO CHANGE THE LAYOUT AND THE TYPE OF THE STRUCTURES THAT ARE ON THE SITE AND SO YOU CAN SEE THE DEVELOPMENT IS CLUSTERED ON THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE SITE. AND THEN THE APPLE IS PROPOSING TO PRESERVE SOME OF THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE SITE IN WHICH THERE IS SOME FLOODPLAIN AND EXISTING TREE CANOPY. UM SO AS FAR AS THE TWO RESIDENTIAL, UM PLANS GO THE ONE FROM 2022 AND THE ONES BEFORE YOU TODAY. BOTH PLANS FEATURE TWO STORY BUILDINGS. THE PROPOSED PLAN INCLUDES 23 AND FOUR BEDROOM UNITS, WHEREAS THE APPROVED PLAN TO 2022 PLAN WAS FOR THREE AND FOUR BEDROOM UNITS. THE PROPOSED PLAN HAS 200,000 SQUARE FEET OF OPEN SPACE VERSUS THE 71,000 SQUARE FEET OF OPEN SPACE THAT WAS ON THE 2022 VERSION. AND THEN BOTH OF THE PROPOSED PLANS PRESERVED MORE OR I'M SORRY. THE PROPOSED PLAN PRESERVES MORE OF THE EXISTING TREE CANOPY, WHEREAS THE 2022 PLAYING RELIED MORE ON A TREE PLANTINGS TO MEET THE TREE CANOPY REQUIREMENTS. THESE ARE THE RENDERINGS IN ELEVATIONS THAT PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING TO SHOW THE PROPOSED STRUCTURES THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING ON THIS NEW PLAN. THESE ARE SOME SITE PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. SO PUBLIC MEETING WISE. ORIGINALLY THIS CASE WENT BEFORE THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE COMMITTEE ON AUGUST 16TH 2023, THE RESULT OF THE VOTE. THAT DAY WAS A 22 TIE, AND SO WHENEVER YOU DON'T HAVE A UNANIMOUS DECISION AUTOMATICALLY GOES TO PLAN AND COMMITTED TO THE NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION. SO IT WENT TO THE PLAYING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING ON AUGUST 17TH. THERE WAS A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REVISED THIS DETAILED DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO PASS BY VOTER 4 TO 3, WITH ONE ABSTENTION. AFTER THAT VOTE, METRO COUNCIL UTILIZED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 11.7 0.5, WHICH ALLOWS HIM TO HEAR ANY DEVELOPMENT PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH THE PLAN CERTAIN SITE AND SO IT DID COME OVER TO HEAR THE AND ORDINANCE 146 SERIES. 2023 WAS PASSED IN OCTOBER AND PART OF THE ORDERS, AND THAT ORDINANCE WAS THAT THE PLAN WAS TO GO BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. UH AND THEN THAT MEETING WAS TO OCCUR SUBSEQUENT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING WAS HELD BY THE DEVELOPER. UM AND SO THE APPLICANT CONDUCTED THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING ON NOVEMBER 1ST 2023. THIS WAS LOCATED AT CHURCH ON KANE RUN ROAD. 32 PEOPLE SIGNED. THE SIGN IN SHEET THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT IS PART OF THE RECENT MIDDLE PLANNING COMMISSION CONDUCTED A PUBLIC HEARING ON NOVEMBER 16TH 2023 5 PEOPLE SPOKEN OPPOSITION AND THEN THE PLANNING COMMISSIONS MOTION WAS TO APPROVE THE REVISED DETAILED DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT PASSED ON NOVEMBER 16TH BY VOTE OF 5 TO 4. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION WITH ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME. AND THIS IS THE COMMITTEE'S HEARING TO REVIEW THE PLANNING COMMISSIONS RECORD. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS YOU NEED TO ASK OF MR DAVIS. THIS WOULD BE THE TIME TO LOG IN AND ASKED QUESTIONS OF MR DAVIS. COUNCILMAN BAKER. JUST A QUICK QUESTION. SO I'M LOOKING AT AS A VOTE. UM CAME BACK. IT'S STILL A SPLIT. UM PRETTY MUCH IT LOOKS[01:00:04]
LIKE IT'S A FIVE OR 6 TO 3. WHAT WAS COMMISSIONER OCCURRING THE REASON FOR ABSTAINING. AT THE FIRST AT THE AT THE AT THE FIRST ONE OF THE SECOND MEETING IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES ON OCTOBER 5TH. SO HAS THE VOTERS FOLLOWS? YES THOSE WERE COMMISSIONER MIMS, CARSON CHEEK, FISHER, HOWARD AND LEWIS. AND THEN I GOT NOT PRESENT FOR THE WEST. SISTER CLAIRE, WHICH IS SO INTERESTING AND THEN ABSTAINING. WHAT'S CURRENT? SO, UM, ON. OCTOBER 5TH YOU SAID THAT'S THE DATE AT THE TOP OF THE MINUTES. AM I LOOKING AT THE WRONG ONE? MAYBE BECAUSE UNDER WE HAD AN ABSTENTION AT THE FIRST HEARING. I'M NOT LOOKING ON IT ON THE AUGUST 16TH AUGUST 17TH AUGUST 17TH. THERE WAS PULLING BACK UP. SO WE HAD OCTOBER AUGUST 16TH WITH THE DRC. THAT WAS A SPLIT VOTE. OKAY AUGUST, 17TH WAS THE 4 TO 3 TO 1. THE ONE WAS CHAIRMAN LOUIS VOTED TO OKAY BECAUSE SHE FELT THAT THEY NEEDED ADDITIONAL TIME TO REVIEW THE RECORD SINCE THE RECORD HAD ONLY BEEN PRESENTED TO THEM ABOUT 24 HOURS BEFORE THAT, REALLY, BECAUSE SINCE IT WAS A SPLIT VOTED DRC. WE KIND OF AUTOMATICALLY PUT ON THE AGENDA. AND SO, UM SO SHE BASICALLY JUST DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO DIGEST IT, RIGHT? YEAH YEAH, BUT THEN WHEN WE WENT BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION IN NOVEMBER, THAT WAS THE 54 VOTE. OKAY AND WE HAVE ONE AT ONE PERSON ABSENT DAD WAS COMMISSIONERS HISTORY? YES. YEAH, AT THAT MEETING. THANK YOU FOR GIVING THAT CONTEXT. IF I'M NOT EXPANDING THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT JUST, UM EVERYONE KNOWS HOW THIS ORDINARILY FUNCTIONS SO DRC OCCURS ON THE TYPICAL ON THE WEDNESDAY COMMUNITY BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SOMETIMES THEY GET SORT OF THE CYCLES REVERSION. IT'S EVERY OTHER WEEK, BUT THEY'RE TYPICALLY IN SYNC. AND IF I VOTE IS UNANIMOUS AND DRC THEN THAT'S IT. THE CASE IS FINISHED, BUT IF IT'S NOT UNANIMOUS ABOUT THEN IT GETS SENT ON TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR FURTHER REVIEW. SO ON WEDNESDAY, THERE WAS A SPLIT VOTE, WHICH MEANT THIS IMMEDIATELY GOT SENT TO THE NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION. AND SO THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS WHO ARE ON DRC, WHERE, OBVIOUSLY FAMILIAR WITH THE FACTS, BUT THE ADDITIONAL MEMBERS ON THE FULL PLANNING COMMISSION HADN'T HAD MORE THAN THAT. 24 HOURS NOTICE TO GET CAUGHT UP NOW. OBVIOUSLY THEY HAD A WHOLE ADDITIONAL HEARING WITH TESTIMONY AND SUCH, BUT, UH, COMMISSIONER LEWIS'S TESTIMONY, ESPECIALLY WITH THAT SHE FELT SHE NEEDED MORE TIME TO WEIGH ON THE CASE THAT INITIAL DATE. I GUESS I GUESS THE REASON WHY I ASKED THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WHILE DISCUSSION AND WE'RE TAKING A LOOK AT THIS SEVERAL TIMES, AND IT'S JUST THE CONTINUOUS SPLIT IS WITH WITH THE HEAD SCRATCHER IN PARTICULAR IN THIS CASE, AND. IT'S JUST PRETTY GLARING. SO THAT'S THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTEXT. COUNCIL MEMBER ENGEL. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR QUESTION. SO 30 PEOPLE 32 PEOPLE SOUND SIGN THE SHEET FOR THE FOR THIS THIS LAST YEAR IN CORRECT THAT WAS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING YES, THAT THE APPLICANT CONDUCTED ON NOVEMBER 1ST. OKAY YEAH. FIVE PEOPLE SPOKEN OPPOSITION WHEN? AT THE NOVEMBER 16TH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. THERE WERE FIVE PEOPLE SPOKEN OPPOSITION.THERE ARE A FEW MORE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WERE WHO DID NOT SIGN UP TO SPEAK. THEY WERE EASY TO PICK OUT BECAUSE THEY WERE WEARING RED, BUT BUT THEY THEY'RE SO THERE WERE A COUPLE MORE PEOPLE BUT FIVE SPOKE ACTUALLY SPOKE IN OPPOSITION. THAT DAY AT THE HEARING. WE HAD EXTENDED, UM, TESTIMONY TIMES THEY HAVE THE OPPOSITION HAD REQUESTED TO HAVE ADDITIONAL TIME. AND SO WE HAD EXTENDED, UM , TIME THERE FOR FOUR TO ALLOW BOTH THE APPLICANT AND THE OPPOSITION. UH TO PLEAD THEIR CASE BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND QUESTION WAS THERE. ALSO TESTIMONY BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS THEMSELVES, OF COURSE, SPEAKING ON THIS CASE OR SO THERE WAS DELIBERATION. SO AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING TYPICALLY BEFORE YOU HAVE EMOTION, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL DELIBERATE AND KIND OF TELL WHERE THEY'RE LEANING ON HOW THEY'RE EXPECTING TO VOTE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND SO THERE WAS A PORTION OF THE MEETING WHERE THEY DELIBERATED AND DISCUSSED. YOU KNOW WHAT? WHAT TESTIMONY KIND OF STOOD OUT THE MOST OF THEM IF YOU WOULD. SO THAT THAT WAS THAT WAS PART OF THE HEARING. YES, THAT'S ON THE RECORD. IT'S IN THE MINUTES. YES. AND BUT IT'S ON THE THAT. ON THE RECORD, SO THERE WAS THERE WAS AN ERROR IN THE IN THE VIDEO FOR THAT MEETING, AND SO THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING THAT DAY WAS ABOUT 6 6.5 HOURS LONG.
UH WE ONLY GOT AN OUT OF THE FIRST HOUR AND A HALF OF THE MEETING AND SO THE LAST THE LAST COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT WERE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION. WE'RE NOT THAT WE DON'T HAVE VIDEO FOR AND SO, UM WE? WE DISCOVERED THAT THE DAY AFTER THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AND MAINLY REACHED OUT THE WEBEX AND CISCO TO TRY TO FIND OUT WHAT WENT WRONG WITH THE VIDEO, IT TURNS
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OUT THAT THERE WAS SOME SORT OF SERVER MAINTENANCE THAT THAT OCCURRED THAT CAUSED THE VIDEO TO BE LOST. AND SO WE DO NOT HAVE VIDEO FOR THAT SECOND HALF NOW I T IS STILL WORKING WITH WITH WITH CISCO TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WENT WRONG IF THE VIDEO IS OUT THERE IN SOME CLOUDS SOMEWHERE, BUT WE CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE VIDEO OF THE OF THAT MEETING OF THAT PORTION OF THE MEETING. YEAH, AND AGAIN. I'M NOT. I'M NOT TRYING TO JUST WERE LOOKED AT.I'M SO BACK AND FORTH IN THIS CASE. I CAN GO THIS WAY. I CAN GO THAT WAY. BUT, I MEAN, I'M THINKING TESTIMONY THAT IS THAT IS HAS NOT BEEN PICKED UP BY US. IT SEEMS TO BE AN ISSUE I WOULD THINK. BUT AGAIN, MAYBE IT'S HAPPENED BEFORE, BUT I THINK I THINK AN AUDIO OF OUR PLANNERS THAT'S THAT THAT WE CAN'T LISTEN TO OUR PUBLIC CAN'T SEE OR WHATEVER IT IS PROBLEMATIC. UM TO WHAT POINT? I DON'T KNOW. I'M STILL NOT THERE, SO I'LL TURN. TURN IT OVER TO OTHERS THAT I SEE IN THE QUEUE. THANK YOU. WAS ANY OF THE ANY OF THAT. WAS ANY OF THIS CASE. CAN'T ON ON THE VIDEO. NONE OF THIS CASE AND NONE OF THE CASES THAT FOLLOWED WERE CAUGHT ON VIDEO. I'M SORRY IF I CALL YOU ALL OUT OF ORDER BECAUSE THE NAME SEEMED TO HAVE BEEN SWITCHED FOR SOME REASON WHAT I GET SOME PEOPLE GOT OFF GOT BACK ON. SO IF I CALL YOU OUT OF ORDER, I'M SORRY. I'M JUST GOING BY THE LIST THAT AS IT APPEARS IN FRONT OF ME, COUNCILMAN OWEN. I REALLY JUST HAD A PROCESS QUESTION. CAN I KNOW THAT THAT THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE THAT WE'RE KIND OF IN UNCHARTED WATERS? UM, I'M. I'M NOT FOLLOWING IT LIKE SO WE VOTE. ON NOT ME. I'M NOT A MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE. BUT THE COMMITTEE VOTES ON THIS. CAN YOU CAN WE TALK ABOUT WHAT THE PROCESS IS? WHAT? WHAT HAPPENS TODAY OR WHERE WE GO AND THEN, UM I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A FEEL FOR LIKE WHERE THIS IS HEADED. YOU KNOW WHAT THE END GAME IS? SURE. YES. HAVE WE HAVE A ANOTHER HOUR THAT THAT IS OUR SO DO YOU WANT TO HOLD YOUR QUESTION TILL WE GET TO THAT PORTION COUNCILMAN ON ONE COUNCIL MEMBER, RUI OKAY.
THANK YOU. UM I KNOW THERE WAS SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE FROM WHEN IT WENT FROM TOWN HOMES TO APARTMENT AND THEN IT WAS AFTER THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY WANTED TO GO BACK TO TOWN HOMES. WAS THERE EVER ANY SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE FROM THERE? THE SECOND PROPOSALS APARTMENTS TO WIN, THE COMMUNITY WAS ASKING FOR SOMETHING DIFFERENT. ANYTHING EVER CHANGED? THE APPLICANT DID NOT SUBMIT A, UH CHECK A PLAYING A CHUCK SORRY PLAN THAT WAS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WAS PRESENTED IN AUGUST. OTHER THAN THEY SHOWED THE ADDITIONAL OPEN SPACE AND TREE CAMP BECAUSE THERE WAS A BINDING ELEMENT THAT HAD BEEN ATTACHED TO THE AUGUST PLAN THAT TALKED ABOUT THE EXISTING TREE CAMPING ON THAT SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE SITE. SO THE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED FOR THE NOVEMBER REVIEW. INCLUDED THAT TREE CAMPING AREA TO BE SHOWN AS PRESERVED, BUT THEY DID NOT MAKE ANY KIND OF CHANGES OR ALTERATIONS TO THE TO THE CONFIGURATION OF OR THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDINGS ON THE NORTHERN PART OF THE SITE SO THAT THEY OFFER ANYTHING TO THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE THIS MORE ACCEPTABLE. I AGAIN NO, NO CHANGES WERE MADE TO THE PLAN THAT WE REVIEWED, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF DISCUSSIONS TOOK PLACE AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING OR WHAT? KIND OF BACK AND FORTH THERE MAY HAVE BEEN BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU.
HMM. COUNCILMAN HAWKINS. COUPLE QUESTIONS. WHAT TIME WAS THE HEARING ACROSS THE STREET WHERE YOU ONLY HIT FAT PEOPLE TO SHOW UP. WHAT TIME OF THE DAY WAS THAT THE MEETING BEGAN AT ONE O'CLOCK. OKAY. MOST OF THE TIME WHEN PEOPLE WORK, OKAY. AND CAN YOU TELL ME? UM HOW LONG DID THIS PARTICULAR CASE? JUST THIS PARTICULAR CAME RUN CASE. HOW LONG DID THIS CASE GO ON? PRIVATE BETWEEN 2.5 AND THREE HOURS BECAUSE AGAIN WE HAD EXTENDED. UM UH, TIME PERIOD.
TYPICALLY WE HAVE 15 MINUTES FOR THE AFRICAN 24 OPPOSITION. WE WENT 4045. WE DID 40 MINUTES FOR THE ADVOCATE 45 FOR THE OPPOSITION AND THEN FIVE MINUTES IN REBUTTAL, AND THEN THERE WERE A LOT OF QUESTIONS. THERE WERE QUESTIONS OF BOTH SIDES, UM, BETWEEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE AND THE PARTIES. OKAY AND THE TAKE, MISS. HAS THAT EVER HAPPENED BEFORE? SINCE YOU VIDEO. UH IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED THE NEXT MONDAY AT BOZA. THE SAME ISSUE HAPPENED. UH, BUT I'M
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SORRY. BEFORE BEFORE WE'VE HAD BEFORE THIS CASE, WE'VE HAD PIECES OF WE'VE HAD VIDEO LIKE PIECES POP OUT WE'VE HAD WHERE THE SOUND HAS BEEN CUT OUT. UH NO. I'M STAYING HOME VIDEOS.I'VE NEVER WELL AGAIN. THAT'S NOT A WHOLE VIDEO. WE HAD AN HOUR AND A HALF, BUT WE HAVE NOT HAD, LIKE VERY LARGE BLOCKS LIKE THIS HAPPEN IF IS IT FURTHER SAY THAT THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED WITH WHOLE VIDEO COMING UP MISSING? UH NOT SINCE I'VE BEEN BACK IN NINE YEARS AGO. YOU COUNCIL MEMBER READ. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. UM THIS IS JUST A QUESTION, I GUESS TO BRIAN. BUT IT MAY BE TOO EVEN COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS. THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS FOR TOWN HOMES, AND THEN THE DEVELOPER CAME BACK AND SAID THAT DEVELOPMENT COSTS HAD INCREASED TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY COULD NO LONGER ADHERE TO THAT PLAN. IS THAT CORRECT? YES THAT WAS THE STATEMENT THAT THAT WAS THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT DURING THE HEARINGS. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO 0.1 THING OUT, AND I'M IN THE PRINTING BUSINESS. AND WE BUY. OBVIOUSLY YOU KNOW, PROBABLY 90% OF OUR MATERIAL. COST IS PAPER, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, WOOD PRODUCTS. AND WHILE IT'S TRUE THAT PAPER PRODUCTS THE COST OF PAPER WENT UP SIGNIFICANTLY OVER THE PAST OF REALLY FROM 2022 TO 2021 OVER THE PAST YEAR, THEY HAVE GONE DOWN EQUALLY AS SIGNIFICANTLY. AND I WANTED TO ADD THAT ACCORDING TO THE P P I, THE COST OF SOFTWOOD LUMBER, WHICH ACCOUNTS FOR ONE THIRD OF THE COST OF BUILDING MATERIAL. IT'S GONE DOWN, 41.9% THIS IS ALL, UM , CONSUMER PRICE INDEX. YOU CAN LOOK THIS UP. SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THAT BUILDING COSTS OVER THE PAST YEAR HAVE ACTUALLY DECREASED. YEAH, AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS IS GOING TO IMPACT THE WAY THAT I VOTE, BUT, UM, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THE COST NOW RELATIVE TO WHERE IT WAS WHEN THEY ORIGINALLY UH, STARTED THIS PLAN OR PRETTY PRETTY SIMILAR. THANK YOU. YOU KNOW THE AND THIS BECOMES THE ISSUE WHEN YOU HAVE IN MY OPINION, WHEN ATTORNEYS SAY MAKE COMMENTS LIKE THAT, BECAUSE WHEN IT COMES BACK TO US WHAT OUR JOB IS, IS FOR LAND USE , NOT WHO HAS TO PAY MORE MONEY.
IT'S ABOUT THE LAND USE AND THEY START CONFUSING. THE ISSUE WHEN THEY START GIVING OPINIONS BECAUSE ALL OF US CAN LOOK THINGS UP ON OUR OWN AND KNOW WHAT WHAT THIS IS OR THAT IS COUNCILMAN BAKER. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I GUESS I GUESS WITH ME AND MAYBE YOU CAN HELP WITH CONTEXT, AND I THINK IT'S ALL OF US. I MEAN, ECHO COUNCILMAN, UH, ANGLE AND THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN REED FOR YOUR INDEX INSIDE IS THAT I FEEL LIKE . THEY'RE THEY'RE PUTTING THE ONUS ON US AND THEY'RE LIKE YOU SAID. THEY'RE THEY'RE THEY'RE CONFUSING THE ISSUE AND OUR ISSUE IS ONE HMM. WHY DIDN'T THEY NOT AT LEAST TRY TO WORK TO SUBMIT ANOTHER PLAN AND THEN TO WHY ARE THEY NOT AT LEAST MAKING JUST SMALL CHANGES THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE MAKING, YOU KNOW? OR OR YOU'RE SUGGESTING AND. YOU KNOW WITH IT, YOU KNOW, EVEN FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHEN I'M READING COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW FROM THE DELIBERATION WHERE IS HIS COMMISSIONER? PHOENIX WILL ONCE AGAIN VOTE NO ON THE PROPOSAL BECAUSE SHE BELIEVES MORE APARTMENTS ARE NOT RIGHT FOR THE AREA. COMMISSIONER CROSS IS NOT IN FAVOR OF DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE OF THE ORIGINAL PLAN PROVIDED A UNIQUE TYPE OF HOUSING WHERE THE AREA AND THIS PLANE IS AN OFFER THAT AND THEN COMMISSIONER HOWARD SAYS THIS CITY WAS NEVER DISCUSSED. AND THE COMMISSIONER CHEEK. UH DOES BELIEVE THAT PROPOSED PLANNING, BUT WE'RE LEANING ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION. WE SET THE BACK.
WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS, UM TRAVIS. WHAT IS THE LAST DATE IS THIS IS THIS THE FINAL DATE? AS WELL. YEAH I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT DATE. BUT BECAUSE OF THE COUNCIL CALENDAR, THIS IS GOING TO NEED TO MOVE NEXT THURSDAY, RIGHT? UM SO I GUESS WHY? WHY? WHAT IS? I GUESS THE DEVELOPER COST, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I'VE HEARD IT'S GONNA COST MORE. BUT, AS GOT, COUNCILMAN, REED SAYS, IS ACTUALLY PRICES OF LOWER DOWN WHY ARE THEY SO DUG IN AND NOT WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY TO AT LEAST ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR SAY ON IT. MHM ANY CONTEXT THERE OR YOU JUST KNOW. I MEAN, I CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE ANY CONTEXT ON CONSTRUCTION COSTS WERE NOT MINE. I'M JUST GOING OFF WITH SOMETHING RECORD. IT'S LIKE LOST VIDEO. YOU GOT PEOPLE GOING BACK AND FORTH, TRYING TO SEND IT BACK FOR A SECOND. LOOK THAT GOT WONKY, RIGHT? WHAT ARE WE DOING ACTUALLY IS FROM A LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW THEY DID NOT REQUEST ANY WAIVERS OR VARIOUS IS ON THE PLANE. AND SO THE PLANET WAS SUBMITTED MEETS THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE FOR A PROJECT LIKE THIS, AND THEN OUR 58. NEIGHBORHOOD. YEAH, DISTRICT AND SO, YOU KNOW. FROM OUR
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STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW AGAIN, THE DIRECTION WAS WAS PROVIDED BY METRO COUNCIL. HEY, GO BACK AND TALK AND SEE IF WE CAN MAKE SOME CHANGES. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE DID NOT NECESSARILY HAVE ANYTHING THAT WE COULD SAY. YOU KNOW IF YOU'RE REQUESTING THIS WAIVER THAT MAYBE YOU SHOULD DO THIS, OR YOU KNOW THERE WAS NO KIND OF MITIGATING. UH SOURCES FROM THAT STANDPOINT BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T REQUESTING ANY KIND OF VARIANCES THE WAIVERS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AND SO WE HAVE STAFF DID NOT YOU KNOW, PUSH ANY KIND OF CHANGES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT ON THE APPLICANT. YOU KNOW, I GUESS I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE WHOLE. IT'S LIKE I DON'T THINK ANYBODY UP HERE IS JUST AGAINST AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE DON'T HAVE OPTIONS. I THINK THAT WE ALL IN OUR DISTRICT WHERE THEY ARE. WE WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE A PLACE THAT THEY LIVE AND ALSO OPTIONS AND ALSO THAT IT'S EQUITABLE ACROSS THE BOARD, BUT IT'S LIKE IT'S SPLIT AS THESE COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER, POPES ARE AS A SPLIT IS JUST MY OWN MIND IS WHERE IT'S LIKE WHAT YOU KNOW, UM WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN THERE'S NO ACCESS? WHERE THE COMMUNITY HAS INPUT. WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING TO GET THEIR SAY EVERY CHANCE WE GET THERE. THEY'RE SHUT DOWN SO YOU KNOW AGAIN, I'M SPLIT LIKE COUNCILOR EAGLE ON WHERE I STAND, BUT I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR IF I CAN PROBABLY SPEAK WITH THE COLLEAGUES UP HERE. I DON'T THINK ANY OF US ARE AGAIN SUPPORTED WITH THOUSANDS IT'S JUST THIS PROCESS HAS GOT TO BE MORE YEAH, WE GOTTA CLEAN UP.THIS PROCESS IS WHAT I GUESS I'M SAYING THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN IF I MIGHT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S HELPFUL OR NOT, I THE LAST TIME THIS WAS IN FRONT OF THIS COMMITTEE, I SORT OF REVIEWED THE DEVELOPERS ECONOMIC SPILL FROM THE FIRST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, AND, UH I'M HAPPY TO KIND OF GO THROUGH THOSE DETAILS AS I RECALL HIM AGAIN, AND THAT THAT FIRST VIDEO IS STILL AVAILABLE SO FORTH COULD GO BACK AND WATCH THAT IF YOU'D LIKE TO SORT OF DIG INTO THAT SPECIFIC ECONOMIC ARGUMENT AT THE SAME TIME COUNSELING FLOODS CORRECT THAT'S NOT REALLY PART OF THE ECONOMICS OF IT ISN'T PART OF OUR SORT OF PLANNING CONSIDERATION, BUT IT DOES PLAY EFFECTIVE AS FAR AS THAT'S THE REASON THE DEVELOPER GAVE RIGHT THEY WERE ASKED. WHY DID YOU CHANGE THE PLAN? AND THEY SAID, WELL, THESE ECONOMIC REASONS. SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO DIG INTO THOSE DETAILS A LITTLE BIT, I KIND OF GIVE YOU WHAT I RECALL, BUT OTHERWISE I CAN LET IT LIE. JUST WHATEVER YOUR PREFERENCE. I ACTUALLY WATCH THAT THAT I'M PRETTY GOOD, BUT IT'S JUST LIKE THE FLEXIBILITY OF WE'RE, YOU KNOW, UM WE CAN. WE CAN ALL PLAN ON THAT. SO THANK YOU. THIS PROPERTY IS ALREADY ZONED. ARE 58, RIGHT? CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. SO. NOT TOO MUDDY THE WATER ANY FURTHER, BUT IT'S A LOGICAL QUESTION TO ME. BECAUSE THE ZONING IS ALREADY THERE. SAY I OWN THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY AND I SELL IT TO THIS PERSON OVER HERE. THEN THAT PERSON CAN PUT IN A DEVELOPMENT PLAN STARTING BRAND NEW AND BUILD WHAT THEY BASICALLY WHAT THEY WOULD WANT, RIGHT? UH, CORRECT. UH BUT IN THIS SITUATION, THE APPLICANT FOR THE 2023 AND 2022 REZONING IS THE SAME APPLICANT. BUT YOU KNOW, THEY WERE PROPOSING A DIFFERENT TYPE OF RESIDENTIAL BUILDING ON THE SITE. YES. SO I REALIZED THAT BUT I'M JUST SAYING ONCE WE CHANGE ZONING IT'S CHANGED. IT DOESN'T DIE DEVELOPER CELLS OR THE APPLICANT SELLS THE PROPERTY. CORRECT SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS THIS IS OWNING WILL STAY. R FIVE A AND BE ALLOWED TO BUILD OUR 58 THERE, NO MATTER I MEAN, THEY'LL HAVE TO GET A DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVED. I'M NOT SAYING THAT I'M JUST SAYING IT'S NOT A CHANGE. IT'S ONLY LIKE DIDN'T WANT PEOPLE TO THINK THAT WE'RE CHANGING ZONING BECAUSE WE'RE NOT HAVING THIS PROBABLY CHANGED THOSE BEFORE. ANYBODY A NEW APPLICANT CAN ALWAYS CHANGE SOMETHING RIGHT AT THAT. BUT TAKE IT UP IT OR THEY COULD USE WHAT YOU NEED TO. YOU CAN CHANGE THEM RIGHT IF THEY WANT TO HIGHER DENSITY. YES THIS PARTICULAR UM. LAND IT WENT FROM ONE TO ANOTHER ALREADY, RIGHT, RIGHT. OKAY IT'S NOT. WE'VE HAD SO OKAY. I JUST HAD SEVERAL THAT WENT THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT ZONING CHANGES, UH, THROUGH THE YEARS. COUNCIL MEMBER BET, SEAN. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR SO QUICKLY PIGGYBACK OFF OF. BUT COUNCILMAN FLED, JUST SAID WITH IT BEING OUR 58 THAT OPENS UP A NEW. SALE OF THE PROPERTY IF THAT WAS TO HAPPEN, HYPOTHETICALLY, RIGHT? WE'RE JUST SPEAKING IN HYPOTHETICALS HERE. SO IT COULD GO FROM A PROPOSED MULTI FAMILY UNIT TO HOWEVER MANY ACRES THIS IS OF TRANSITIONAL HOUSINGS OR UM. MULTIPLE DIFFERENT FACETS OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE REALLY HAVE NO CONTROL OVER AS LONG AS IT PASSES, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE PLANNING COMMISSIONS. STANDARDS. CORRECT RIGHT? ANYONE WHO WANTED TO PURCHASED THE PROPERTY AND PRESENT A DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A USED AS PERMITTED IN OUR FIVE A
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WOULD NEED TO COME BACK WITH A REVISED PLAN, BUT THAT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD REVIEW AND THEN YOU KNOW IF IT COMPLIES WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, AND YOU KNOW IT, THEN IT WOULD GO BEFORE THE COMMITTEE OR WHOEVER FOR APPROVAL. AS COUNCILMAN. ENGLAND COUNCILMAN BAKER. YOU KNOW, THIS IS A VERY SPLIT DOWN THE MIDDLE TYPE OF DECISIONS SO VERY UNDECIDED ON HOW THEY CAN GO. EITHER WAY, I LOOK AT THAT FACTOR AS YOU KNOW. SOMEBODY COMING IN AND BUYING IT AND BUILDING WHATEVER THEY WANT, AS LONG AS IT CONFORMS WITH THAT.VERSUS WHAT'S ALREADY PROPOSED TO US WITH REVISIONS. SECONDLY I THINK MOST IMPORTANTLY, IS THE TESTIMONY. THAT. NEEDED TO BE VIDEOED IS LOST AND THERE'S. OBVIOUSLY NO PRECAUTION RECOVERING THAT CORRECT. THAT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING. LIKE I SAID, WE I T HAS BEEN REACHING OUT THE WEB BACKS AND THERE WAS THERE WAS A INTERNAL AND I CAN READ THE REAL NERDY TECHNICAL STUFF IF YOU WANT, BUT THEY WE DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THE VIDEO AT THIS TIME. WHETHER WE GET THAT OR NOT, I DO NOT KNOW BRIAN. FOR THE RECORD. COULD YOU READ EXACTLY WHAT THE DETAILS ON THAT ONE? YEAH. SO THE THAT THE INCIDENT REPORT THAT WE GOT FROM WEBEX, UH AND I'M GOING TO READ IT. IT'S CALLED RE RE CAUSE IN HERE, AND I'LL, UH SONJA, ALL SKI AND THIS AND GIVE IT TO YOU.
SO YOU GOT A COPY? UH ENGINEERING IDENTIFIED THE ROOT CAUSE TO BE DURING A PLANNED WORK CHANGE CARRIED OUT TO MIGRATE INTERNAL RESOURCES. POST COMPLETION OF THIS PLAN, WORK CHANGE A SUB OPTIMAL STORAGE ALLOCATION CONFIGURATION WAS INADVERTENTLY ASSIGNED TO ONE OF THE DEDICATED STORAGE SERVERS FOR VIDEO CENTRIC NETWORK BASED MP FOUR RECORDINGS. THIS RESULTED IN RESOURCE EXHAUSTION AND CAUSED THE CREATION OF PARTIAL RECORDINGS FOR ANY RECORDING TRAFFIC TRAVERSING THE AFFECTED SERVER. THANK YOU. AS I FEEL LIKE WE NEED DEVELOPMENT.
WE NEED GROWTH IN OUR COMMUNITIES AND WE NEED ALL TYPES OF ALL SORTS OF DIVERSE HOUSING. WE NEED THE TESTIMONY AS WELL. SO WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS OF GOING BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND GETTING THE TESTIMONY. JUST AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND IF BECAUSE OF 11.75 IF WE DON'T TAKE ACTION BY THE 14TH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DECISION WILL STAND. DID I SAY THAT RIGHT? YES BUT LET ME CLARIFY BECAUSE I THINK THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE QUESTIONS THERE. I THINK YOUR SPECIFIC QUESTIONS COULD BE TABLED IT. NO, THE CLOCK WILL RUN. UM AGAIN COMPLETELY. AH! UM. NEW SITUATION. THAT SITUATION WE'VE BEEN IN BEFORE. WE'VE NEVER HAD A CASE SET BACK DOWN FROM 1175. THAT HASN'T COME BACK UP HERE.
WE ARE SECOND TIME. CAN WE DO IT AGAIN? THE SAME SORT OF ARGUMENT THAT I DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD AT COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, UH TO WELL, WHENEVER IT WAS WHEN THIS CAME THROUGH THE FIRST TIME, WHICH IS A LOT OF LEGAL UNCERTAINTY. I THINK IT'S A CHALLENGE IS RELATIVELY LIKELY TO SUCCEED. THERE ARE RISKS, BUT COULD WE ATTEMPT TO SEND IT BACK DOWN TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AGAIN? THEORETICALLY THE SORT OF PROCEDURE IS THERE. UM I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD WITHSTAND LEGAL CHALLENGE, BUT THERE'S NOTHING EXPLICITLY SAYING WE CANNOT THAT I CAN RELY ON AT THIS POINT. UM BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT WOULD NOT MEAN PULLING THE TESTIMONY THAT DID EXIST. ASSUMING THE VIDEO RECORD DOESN'T SUDDENLY APPEAR. ALL WE HAVE FROM THAT IS THE MINUTES HAS COMPOSED HERE. WHICH DO YOU KNOW WHAT MR JONES, PRINCE CUNNINGHAM? BRUNELLO NIKKI ALL SAID, AND AS STAFF SUMMARIZED, BUT IF YOU WANT, YOU KNOW, RECORDING OF THESE FOLKS SPECIFIC TESTIMONY THAT HAVE TO GO BACK TO ANOTHER HEARING, AND THEY HAVE TO SHOW UP BECAUSE YOU KNOW PEOPLE'S AVAILABILITY CHANGES. THANK YOU. I HAD THOUGHT IF THEY WERE ACTUALLY NOT ACTUALLY BECAUSE THEY SAID, THEY'RE LOOKING FORWARD IN THE CLOUD. IF WE HAD TIME TO LET THEM FIND IT IN THE CLOUD, AND EVIDENTLY WE DON'T YEAH. COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS. THANK YOU. FOUNDED IN THE CLOUD. REALLY AND TRULY LIKE ALL OF THIS IS SO CONCERNING TO ME. IT'S BEEN AGAINST SO MANY MOVING PARTS. SO MANY. MANIPULATIONS AND GAMES THAT'S BEEN GOING ON WITH THIS CASE. UM. I DEFINITELY AM NOT TAKING ANY RECOMMENDATIONS TO SIT IN THE BACK. UM. ONE OF THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS MADE A STATEMENT. I DID NOT SEE THAT STATEMENT IN THE TRANSCRIPT. AND THAT WAS WHY. GET METRO COUNCIL
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SEND THIS BACK. WHEN THEY COULD HAVE OVERTURNED IT. THOSE STATEMENTS WERE GOLD. NOT ONLY OM M CONITUES B THE WERE ALSO GOLD. F T COSIROE CMI S WHERE CONTINUING TO PLAY THIS GAME. SEND IT BACK. YOU KNOW MY INTEGRITY AND MY TIME. TAM IS THE ONLY THING IN THIS WORLD. YOU DON'T GET BACK AND I WILL NOT CONTINUE TO PLAY THIS GAME. THE SAME WAY THAT EVERY OTHER COMMUNITY GETS DIVERSITY.EQUITABLE CHASE PRINC TH CHASE PRINCIPLE E. EQUITABLE. IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND DISTRICT ONE DESERVES DIVERSITY. AND THAT'S ALL I'VE ASKED FOR. COMPROMISED AS MUCH.
AS I POSSIBLY CAN. MY INTEGRITY WOULD NOT ALLOW ME TO LIMIT MY DISTRICT. TWO APARTMENTS. CANCEL MEMBER OWEN. OKAY? ALL RIGHT. CAN WE. SORRY. UH I WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK AROUND THE PROCESS IF WE CAN, I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND. BECAUSE WE'RE JUST KIND OF NEW FOR ALL OF US. WHAT I MEAN. DO WE JUST DOES THE COMMITTEE TODAY TAKE A VOTE, AND IF IT COMES OUT, IT GOES TO FULL COUNCIL AND THEN THE FULL COUNCIL TAKES A VOTE. ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND UP OR DOWN VOTE. AND THAT'S THE END OF IT. IS THAT THE PROCESS HERE? SO IN SHORT, YES. UM AND I COULD GO THROUGH THE WHOLE THING, BUT JUST TO GIVE US THE SORT OF LOOKING FORWARD, UM VOTE BECAUSE OF THE COUNCIL CALENDAR, AND THE FACT THAT JANUARY IS AN ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING AND COMMITTEES ARE RECONSTITUTED, ETCETERA. THIS NEEDS TO MOVE OUT OF COMMITTEE TODAY, UH, WHETHER ITS RECOMMENDATION TO UPHOLD OR OVERTURN OR NO RECOMMENDATION. TO MOVE ON TO FULL COUNCIL NEXT THURSDAY AT THAT TIME FOR COUNCIL TO TAKE ACTION BECAUSE WE WILL NOT MEET AGAIN SUBSTANTIVELY BEFORE THE DEADLINE. 1175 PASSES THE 1175 DEADLINE FUNCTIONS SIMILAR TO THE 90 DAY RULE. RIGHT YOU HAVE A CERTAIN WINDOW TO ACT ONCE IT PASSES YOU. PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISION IS FINAL, SO ■NEXT THURSDAY IS THE LAST OPPORTUNITY UNDER THE CURRENT PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW, TOO.
ALTER, AMEND OR OVERTURN THAT DECISION. OKAY? UH, UH, OKAY. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA JUST HAVE A BRIEF BRIEF STATEMENT AND THEN WE'LL PROBABLY FOLLOW UP IF IT GOES TO FULL FULL COUNCIL TO SPEAK MORE ABOUT IT, BUT I WANT TO SAY PRETTY CLEARLY HERE THAT I THINK THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM HAS NOT MADE OUR JOBS ANY EASIER. UM I THINK THE COUNCIL PERSON FROM THIS DISTRICT HAS STATED PRETTY CLEARLY. YOU KNOW, THROW ME A BONE. RIGHT. MAKE A LITTLE CONCESSION. AND THEY HAVE NOT DONE THAT. AND FRANKLY, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT OR APPRECIATE THAT, SO I'M GOING TO START BY SAYING THAT AND THEN THE SECOND PIECE OF THIS IS THE PROCESS OF BRINGING THIS BACK AND BRINGING THIS BACK IS NOT GOOD. IT IS THIS. THE WAY THIS HAS TURNED OUT IS NOT GOOD FOR US AS A COUNCIL AND IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, AND IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE CITY AT LARGE. WE CANNOT DO WHAT WE'VE DONE ON THIS PROJECT EVER AGAIN. NEED TO LEAVE THESE WATERS UNCHARTED. WE DO NOT NEED TO EVER COME HERE AGAIN. BECAUSE I THINK THE PROCESS IS SO BAD. I HAVE. I'M PRETTY SURE I KNOW HOW I'M GOING TO VOTE. UM ON THE FOUR COUNCIL, UM, AND IT'S ALL PROCESS RELATED. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO, FRANKLY, WITH THIS PARTICULAR CASE OR ANYTHING ELSE , MY VOTE WILL BE PROCESS RELATED, BUT THE DEVELOPER HAS NOT MADE THIS ANY EASIER FOR US.
AND I WANT TO STATE THAT CLEARLY AS WELL. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
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AND I'LL SAY THIS AGAIN. I HAVE COMPROMISED. ALL THE WAY UP. AND STILL WILLING TO COMPROMISE. I THINK MY CONSTITUENTS ARE JUST THEY JUST, YOU KNOW, THEY WANTING TO BE MADE FELT LIKE THAT THEIR VOICE MATTERS. AND IT AND IT'S LIKE HOW CAN YOU HOW CAN YOUR INTENTIONS BE? GREAT COMING IN A COMMUNITY AND NOT EVEN RESPECTING OR COMPROMISING WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ALREADY LIVED THERE. I UNDERSTAND VOTES OR YOUR OPINION. BUT I'M ASKING THAT EVERYBODY SUPPORTS THIS.BUT REMEMBER. THE PEOPLE THAT I REPRESENT HAVE TO LIVE THERE. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN BAKER. YOU WERE NEXT, AND THEN COUNCILMAN INGLE. ALL RIGHT, UH, FIRST. THANK YOU, MADAM. CHAIR FIRST, UH, COUNCILMAN COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS. UM THIS IS NOT FOR AN APPROVAL. THIS IS TOO. I JUST WANT TO GET CONTEXT ON HOW WE'RE VOTING. WHEN WE WHEN WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IN FRONT OF US WAS THE WHAT WAS RIGHT INTO THE RECORD WAS FOR THE APPROVAL. OF WHAT CAME OVER FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION. YES, AND SO OUR VOTE TODAY. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR IF WE ARE TO BE TO OVERTURN OR IF WE VOTE YES, IT WOULD BE TO MOVE DISCIPLINE THROUGH AND IF WE BOTH KNOW IT WOULD BE TO GO AGAINST THE POINTING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION. AM I HEARING YOU, RIGHT? SO, UM. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE CLEAR ON HOW THINGS GET A LITTLE COMPLICATED BECAUSE OF NECESSARY THE NECESSITY OF FINDINGS OF FACT, IN THE LIKE, SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCIL HOW CAN A WOMAN HAWKINS IS READY TO INTRODUCE OR NOT? OKAY WE'VE GOT THE MEMBER BY SUBSTITUTION, WHICH IN THEORY NEED TO BE APPROVED. AND THEN YES, BUT ON THE MEMBER SUBSTITUTION WOULD BE TO OVERTURN THE DECISION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. OKAY, SO IF I COULD, UH, GIVE MY TIME BACK TO COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS, SO SHE'S CLEAR ON HER. IF SHE'S ASKING FOR SUPPORT FOR THE AMENDMENT OF SUBSTITUTION, SO YOU'RE CLEAR. IT JUST HASN'T BEEN INTRODUCED YET. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S STILL MORE PEOPLE IN THE QUEUE, OKAY? YES AND I'LL LET EVERYONE SPEAK. I JUST WANTED CLARITY ON THAT. AND NOW I'LL FOLLOW UP AFTER COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL COUNCILMAN ANGLE. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND COUNCILMAN BAKER. THAT WAS THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL. BECAUSE AT THIS POINT I THINK WE'RE ALL RECORDING. YES OR WERE VOTING TO DENY. AND SO WE WERE OVER THAT AGAIN, BUT BUT, YOU KNOW, JUST WANTED TO SHARE 11 COMMENT BECAUSE YOU KNOW FOR MANY YEARS AH, MY COLLEAGUE. TO MY RIGHT, UH OVER HERE WHEN I SAT MY MAIN SHARE. UM FOR PLANNING AND COMMISSION FOR PLANNING AND ZONING, UH, TALKED ABOUT BAIT AND SWITCH. AND I MEAN HE TALKED ABOUT IT EVERY YEAR UNTIL HE WAS RED IN THE FACE ABOUT BAIT AND SWITCH. AND. YOU KNOW, I HAVE A LOT. I JUST I HAVE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT IN MY DISTRICT AND YOU KNOW, I JUST I JUST WISH BAIT AND SWITCH FOR I'M NOT. I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF THAT OF THAT IN ITSELF. OKAY I'M JUST A YOU KNOW, I'M A BUSINESS GUY, AND I JUST LIKE TO DO BUSINESS STRAIGHT UP, OKAY? AND YOU KNOW, BUT WHAT WE'RE REALLY GETTING DOWN TO THE NITTY GRITTY ON THIS THING, FOLKS HERE AND SO I'M GOING TO KIND OF REMEMBER MY COLLEAGUE, COUNCILMAN PEDEN AND I'M GOING TO PROBABLY YIELD TOWARDS THAT WAY AS I VOTE HERE, AND YOU KNOW, I MEAN, TOWN HOMES ARE DIFFERENT THAN APARTMENTS, FOLKS. NOW THEY'RE MORE EXPENSIVE. LET'S LET'S BE LET'S BE FRANK. OKAY THEY ARE MORE EXPENSIVE. THERE'S NO BUT THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE FOR ANOTHER DAY. WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THIS CASE.
AND SO I THINK IT'S REAL, AND THAT'S JUST KIND OF WHERE I'M LEANING. AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, BUT I DID LIKE THAT EXPLANATION ON ARE WE GOING TO DENY WE'RE GOING TO VOTE? YES.
SO I'M WAITING TO HEAR THAT SO HERE WE GO, FOLKS, WE NEED TO MOVE THIS THING ON. THANK YOU.
CANCELING A CHAPEL. SURE PART OF IT. I WAS JUST GOING TO GET CLARIFICATION BECAUSE, AS IT SAYS, UM IN THE ORDINANCE THAT IS HEREBY APPROVED. AND SO I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE GOING TO GET TO THAT IN THE AMENDMENT BY SUBSTITUTION, WHICH I'M ALSO WONDERING WHEN WE GET TO THAT, IF THAT'S EVEN NECESSARY BECAUSE WE COULD JUST APPROVE OR DENY. UM BUT I WAS ALSO GOING TO SAY, UM, LIKE ALL MY COLLEAGUES, I SIT HERE STILL VERY, UM, CONFLICTED ABOUT THIS, AND SOME OF IT, I THINK HAS GOTTEN ANY GRITTY. SOME OF IT HAS BEEN AS UNNECESSARY NOISE. OTHER PARTS
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OF IT, UM IN IN TERMS OF HEARING THE COMMUNITY, UM, HEARING BEING AMENDABLE TO NEGOTIATIONS, UM, CREATING DIVERSITY AND HOUSING STOCK. ALL OF THOSE ARE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. UM BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I ALSO WANT TO REMIND US ALL THAT WE ARE LEGISLATORS. AND YOU KNOW IF THERE'S A PROBLEM THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THIS AND FIGURING OUT WAYS THAT WE CAN FIX THE PROBLEM INSTEAD OF PERPETUATING IT, UM I THINK THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS CASE AS A SYMPTOM OF A PROBLEM. UM AND SO I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO REALLY LOOK AT HOW WE'VE GOTTEN HERE. BECAUSE THIS WAS APPROVED AS A MEDICAL SPACE. IT WAS APPROVED AS TOWN HOMES, AND I THINK IT'S BEEN APPROVED NOW TWICE AS APARTMENTS AND SO IT KEEPS COMING BACK TO US. AND IT'S HARD TO, UM, KIND OF GO AGAINST HOW FAR THIS HAS ALREADY GOTTEN. UM, BUT AGAIN, THERE'S SO MANY CONSIDERATIONS. IN THIS CASE, AND I JUST HAD TO SAY THAT I HOPE THAT WE'RE LEARNING FROM THIS EXPERIENCE AND HOPEFULLY GAINING WAYS THAT WE CAN AGAIN FIX THE PROCESS. UM AND THE AND THE SYSTEMS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE. SO HOPEFULLY, UM, THESE BAIT AND SWITCH SORT OF SITUATIONS CAN BE A LITTLE BIT MORE ATTENDED TO, AND I'M ALSO EXCITED FOR WHEN WE GET OUR AFFORDABLE. OH, GOODNESS. WHAT'S THE WORD OF THE METRO HOUSING? NOT THE THING. UM WITH BEING INTRODUCED TOMORROW THURSDAY. ANTI DISPLACEMENT ORDINANCE AND WHEN WE HAVE INFORMATION SITTING BEFORE US AS A PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE THAT WILL HELP US IN THE IN OUR DECISION MAKING , ESPECIALLY AS IT PERTAINS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH WE HAVEN'T TALKED A LOT ABOUT IT ON THE FLOOR, I THINK THAT THAT HAS BEEN A LARGE CONVERSATION. UM OUTSIDE OF CHAMBERS FOR A LOT OF MEMBERS. I THINK WE HAVE A REPORT COMING DUE TOMORROW. THURSDAY THURSDAY PRESS RELEASE THAT WAS SENT OUT FOR WHAT THE COUNCIL PAYS FOR. FOR THE METRO HOUSING COALITION REPORT COMES OUT. THANK THE PRESS CONFERENCES THURSDAY. COUNCILMAN HAWKINS. UM TRAVIS, IF YOU WOULD, WOULD YOU GO AHEAD AND RESORT ALONG ONE FOLKS. I APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE. I'LL GET THROUGH IT. THEN I'LL SUMMARIZE IT AND THEN I'LL TAKE QUESTIONS. WHEREAS THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE DRC OF THE LOCAL METRO PLANNING COMMISSION, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING ON AUGUST 16TH 2023 PROPOSAL TO REVISE THE DETAILED DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND BINDING ELEMENTS FOR THE PROPERTY AT 4516 CAN RUN ROAD THE PROPERTY AND LOUISVILLE METRO 23 G D P 0034 IN DRC VOTED TO FOUR AND TWO AGAINST RESULTING IN THE PROPOSAL BEING FORWARDED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AND WHEREAS THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED THE PROS ON AUGUST 17TH 2023 AND APPROVED THE PROPOSAL BY VOTE OF 4 TO 3. AND WHEREAS THE COUNCIL UNDERTOOK A REVIEW OF THE PROJECT, WHICH CULMINATED IN THE PASSAGE OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 146 SERIES 2023, WHICH SENT THE CASE BACK DOWN FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING TO BE REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AND WHEREAS THE APPLICANT HELD A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING AFTER WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED THE CASE ON NOVEMBER 16TH 2023. AND WHEREAS THE PLANNING COMMISSION AGAIN VOTED TO APPROVE THE PLAN, THIS TIME BY VOTE OF 5 TO 4 AND WHEREAS THE LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL OF THE GLOBAL JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT, THE COUNCIL INITIATED A SECOND REVIEW OF THE PROPOSAL UNDER SECTION 1175, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND WHEREAS THE COUNCIL HAS REVIEWED THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED AT THE PUBLIC HEARINGS BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND THE FINDINGS AND DECISION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS SET OUT IN THE MINUTES AND RECORDS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION CASE. 23 D D P. 0034. AND WHEREAS THE COUNCIL REJECTS THE FINDINGS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THE PROPOSAL IN CASE 23, D D P. 0034 AND HAS MADE THE FOLLOWING ALTERNATIVE FINDINGS EFFECT BASED ON THE PLANNING COMMISSIONS TOTAL RECORD IN THE COMMISSION'S REVIEW OF THAT RECORD AT THE DECEMBER 5TH 2023 MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE THAT SUPPORT MAINTAINING THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PLAN ON THE PROPERTY , LOCATED AT 4516 CANE RUN ROAD AND BEING IN THE LOCAL METRO, THOSE HAVE ALL BEEN SORT OF PROCEDURAL HISTORY. NOW WE GET TO THE SUBSTANCE. WHEREAS THE PROPERTY WAS RESUMED IN APRIL 22 APRIL OF 2022 TO THE R FIVE A ZONING DESIGNATION WITHIN ASSOCIATED PLAN FOR 19 TOWN, HOME STYLE BUILDINGS TOTALING 106 UNITS. THE CURRENT PLAN AND WHEREAS THE DIVERSITY OF HOUSING TYPE IN AN AREA THAT HAS A LARGE AMOUNT OF TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING DEPARTMENT STYLE MULTI FAMILY HOUSING WAS A SIGNIFICANT FACTOR IN BOTH THAT REZONING DECISION AS WELL AS THE APPROVAL OF THE CURRENT PLAN. AND WHEREAS THE COUNCIL IS CONCERNED BY THE SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN THE STYLE OF HOUSING, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING HAS BEEN PROPOSED LESS THAN TWO YEARS AFTER THE CURRENT PLAN WAS APPROVED. AND WHEREAS A LIKE A SECTION 11.4 0.7 POINT F 0.2 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WHICH DEALS WITH THE SCOPE OF PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW FOR DETAILED DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT PLAN STATES , THE PLANNING COMMISSION SHALL CONSIDER BUT NOT BE LIMITED TO THE FOLLOWING FACTORS IN REVIEW OF A DETAILED DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT PLAN DOT DOT DOT SUB F CONFORMANCE OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. AND WHEREAS THE FIFTH PRINCIPLE OF THE CHASE PRINCIPLES OF PLAN 2040 EQUITY STATES THAT QUOTE THE METRO IS A COMMUNITY THAT VALUES DIVERSITY AND RECOGNIZES[01:40:04]
THE RESOURCES, OPPORTUNITIES AND OUTCOMES MUST BE SHARED BY ALL OVER. METRO SEEKS TO ENGAGE ALL CITIZENS AND ITS DECISION MAKING PROCESSES AND ADDRESS THE HISTORY OF INEQUITIES AND THEIR ONGOING IMPACTS, PARTICULARLY AMONG COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. LOUISVILLE METRO IS BUILT ENVIRONMENT SUPPORTS THE CREATION OF SAFE NEIGHBORHOODS WHILE PROVIDING EQUITABLE ACCESS TO QUALITY, EDUCATION, EMPLOYMENT AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING. UH OF CHOICE FOR ALL CITIZENS. THE COMMUNITY ENJOYS THE BENEFIT OF ECONOMIC GROWTH AND IMPROVEMENTS TO BE BUILT. IN NATURAL ENVIRONMENT IN AND ACROSS NEIGHBORHOODS. AND WHEREAS PLAN 2040 HASN'T GOT ONE SUBJECT, AND ONE CALLS FOR A VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES, AND WHEREAS PLAN 2040 HOUSING GOAL ONE SUBJECTION TO CALLS FOR HOUSING OPTIONS AND ENVIRONMENTS THAT SUPPORT AGING IN PLACE. AND WHEREAS PLAN 2040 HOUSING GOAL ONE, SUBSECTION THREE CALLS FOR A VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES THAT MEET THE NEEDS OF ALL RESIDENTS, INCLUDING AN ADEQUATE SUPPLY OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND PHYSICALLY ACCESSIBLE HOUSING. AND WHEREAS PLANT PLAN 20 40,000 GOLD, ONE, SUBSECTION SEVEN CALLS FOR ENHANCING HOUSING CHOICE FOR ALL RESIDENTS THROUGHOUT LOUISVILLE METRO BY COORDINATING PLANS AND INVESTMENTS TO FORMATIVE LEE FURTHER FAIR AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND WHEREAS PLANNED 20 40,000 GO THREE, SUBSECTION ONE CALLS FOR THE PROVISION OF FAIR AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING. BY PROVIDING A VARIETY OF OWNERSHIP OPTIONS AND UNIT COSTS THROUGHOUT LOUISVILLE METRO EXPANDED OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE IN QUALITY, VARIABLY PRICED HOUSING AND LOCATIONS OF THEIR CHOICE BY ENCOURAGING AND AFFORDABLE AND ACCESSIBLE HOUSING AND DISPERSED LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT LOUISVILLE, METRO AND WHEREAS A CHANGE FROM TOWN HOMES TWO APARTMENTS WITH LESSEN OR ELIMINATE THE EXTENT TO WHICH THE POST PLAN COMPLIES WITH THE ABOVE LISTED ELEMENTS OF PLAYING 2040 AS SIMPLY ADDING ADDITIONAL APARTMENTS TO AN AREA WHICH ALREADY HAS MANY SUCH UNITS, CONSTRUCTIVE AND APPROVED , DOES NOT CONTRIBUTE TO HOUSING , DIVERSITY AND CHOICE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHILE TOWN HOMES ARE A HOUSING STYLE THAT WOULD SUBSTANTIALLY INCREASE SUCH DIVERSITY AND CHOICE. AND WHEREAS THERE WERE NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGES ARE COMPROMISES MADE AS A RESULT OF THE COUNCIL REQUIRED NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING AND SECOND PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING AND, WHEREAS IN LIGHT OF BOTH BE CHASED EQUITY PRINCIPLES, AS WELL AS A SIGNIFICANT EMPHASIS ON HOUSING, DIVERSITY AND CHOICE AND PLAN 2040. THE COUNCIL BELIEVES THE CURRENT PLAN SHOULD REMAIN IN PLACE. NOW, THEREFORE BEING DETAINED BY THE LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL OF THE LOUISVILLE JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT HAS FOLLOWS SECTION ONE. THE REVISED DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4516 CANE RUN ROAD AND BEING IN LOUISVILLE METRO AS PROPOSED AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN THE MINUTES AND RECORDS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN CASE NUMBER 23 GDP 00354 SHALL BE DENIED AND THAT DECISION THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN THAT CASE IS OVERRIDDEN. SECTION TWO. THIS ORDINANCE SHALL TAKE A PIC EFFECT UPON ITS PASSAGE AND APPROVAL OR OTHERWISE BECOMING LAW. THAT'S THE TEXT TO SUMMARIZE, UH, THE SUBSTANTIVE PORTIONS LOOK AT THE VERY VARIOUS SECTIONS OF PLAN 2040 THAT DEAL WITH PRIMARILY IN SUBSECTION E EQUITY THAT DEAL WITH THE VARIETY AND DIVERSITY OF HOUSING CHOICE AND OPTIONS.THAT REALLY IS THE MEAT OF THIS, UM ORDINANCE AND ALSO REFLECTS THE SORT OF COMMENTS BY MOST OF THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS WHO WHO VOTED AGAINST THE CASE. SO THAT'S SORT OF WHERE THIS COMES FROM. THAT'S WHAT THIS IS BASED ON. AND THAT IS THE JUSTIFICATION IN THIS AMENDMENT FOR THE OVERTURN, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL. YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YES OR HAS I LACK THE ESQUIRE BEHIND MY NAME? PLEASE HELP ME AND UNDERSTANDING. I THINK EARLIER YOU SAID IT WAS BECAUSE OF FACTS OF FINDING THAT IT HAD TO BE THAT THE. ORDINANCE THAT COUNCILMAN TAMMY HAWKINS INITIALLY PROPOSED HAD TO SAY SHE APPROVED JUST SO WE COULD GET HERE SO SHE GETS ISSUE AN AMENDMENT TO SAY NO, BECAUSE HE WASN'T ALLOWED TO DO THAT FROM THE JUMP. IS THAT A LOCAL LAW? OR IS THAT JUST SOMETHING THAT LIKE LAWYERS DO EVERYWHERE FOR FUN. SURE LET ME CLARIFY THE REGULAR PROCESS IN THIS THE REGULAR PROCESS IN THIS COMMITTEE, RIGHT WHEN WE DEAL WITH REZONING DECISIONS. THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWS THE CASE THAT RECOMMENDATIONS AUTOMATICALLY SENT TO US THAT INITIAL ORDINANCE ALWAYS REGARDLESS OF WHAT COUNSEL'S OPINION MIGHT BE, ALWAYS READS. WE ARE BACKING UP THE PLANNING COMMISSION DECISION, RIGHT? WE ARE APPROVING WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED. WHENEVER ZONING DECISION COMES OVER. WE'RE FOLLOWING THAT PATTERN WITH DEVELOPMENT PLANS WE ALWAYS HAVE. IT MAKES SENSE FOR TWO REASONS. ONE THE DEFAULT ASSUMPTION IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISION WILL BE UPHELD. IT REQUIRES FINDINGS BACK TO OVERTURN SO IT MAKES SENSE FOR THE INITIAL ORDINANCE TO REFLECT THAT NUMBER TWO THIS HEARING THAT IS CURRENTLY ONGOING, HAD NOT OCCURRED WHEN THAT ORDINANCE WAS SUBMITTED RIGHT AND SO, SUBMITTING AN INITIAL ORDINANCE THAT OVERTURNS THE PLANNING COMMISSION DECISION WITHOUT HAVING THAT REQUIRED HEARING IS COMPLETELY OUT OF ORDER. YOU NEED TO HAVE THE HEARING FIRST. YOU NEED TO HEAR ALL THE INFORMATION, THEN DECIDE HOW YOU'D LIKE TO MOVE ON THE CASE. SO THOSE ARE THE TWO REASONS WHY THE INITIAL ORDINANCE APPROVED THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND THE END FURTHERMORE, KENTUCKY LAW IN SHORT, REQUIRES FINDING THE FACT WHEN OVERTURNING MOST PLANNING RELATED DECISIONS. THERE'S AN EXCEPTION FOR LIKE CHANGES TO
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THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES OFF THE PLANNING COMMISSION SENT A BUNCH OF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CHANGING SHORT TERM RENTAL RIGS. AND WE JUST SAID NO, WE DON'T LIKE THOSE THAT WOULD WORK FOR REZONING. THAT IS NOT ENOUGH. YOU MUST HAVE FINDINGS EFFECT. AND SIMILARLY, OUR INTERPRETATION IS THAT FOR DEVELOPMENT PLANS, YOU NEED FINDINGS EFFECT. YOU CANNOT JUST SAY NO. AND IF YOU DO JUST SAY NO. ULTIMATELY IF THAT THERE IS AN APPEAL, THE COURT WILL SAY NOPE. THE PLANNING COMMISSION DECISION STANDS BECAUSE COUNSEL FAILED TO ISSUE FINDINGS EFFECT.SO THAT'S WHY THIS SORT OF ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS AND EVERYTHING. THOSE TWO FACTORS COMBINED LEAD US TO SORT OF OUR CURRENT SITUATION. COUNCILWOMAN RUI. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO CALL THE QUESTION ON THIS. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE DOING, MR BAKER, TOO? OKAY, SO WHAT WE NEED NOW IS A MOTION. MOTION. MOTION TO MOTION TAKES SUBSTITUTION SUBSTITUTION IN A SECOND. PROPERLY MADE THAT SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BAKER AND SECOND BACK COUNCILWOMAN RUINING ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MEMBER BY SUBSTITUTION SIGNIFY BY SAYING, I SUPPOSED BY, LIKE SIGN . HEARING NONE. THE MOTION CARRIES SO WE NOW HAVE THE AMENDMENT BY SUBSTITUTION IN FRONT OF US TO DENY THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISION. ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GO TO VOTING. PLEASE OPEN THE VOTING.
YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT CHANGING ZONING, SO YOU DON'T HAVE A SORRY.
WITHOUT OBJECTION. VOTING IS CLOSING. I HAVE SEVEN YES, FOLKS , BUT SAYS SHOWING ONLINE FIVE YEARS OKAY AND TO PRESENT. IT WILL GO TO A BUSINESS THAT OUR NEXT COUNCIL BEFORE WE LEAVE.
THIS IS OUR LAST COMMITTEE MEETING. IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE SERVING ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE WITH ALL OF YOU , UH, COUNCILMAN ANGLE. WE'VE BEEN ON THIS TEAM FOR A LONG TIME FOR PLAYING IN HIS OWN. IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE. UH I HOPE EVERYONE HAS A GREAT HOLIDAY SEASON COMING UP. MERRY CHRISTMAS. HAPPY NEW YEAR. LET ME BE THE FIRST TO SAY MERRY GRINCH, MUS. WITHOUT OBJECTION. WE ARE CLOSED. EVERYBODY HERE. THANK YOU ALL.
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