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SURE I CAN'T SEE THAT. WELL, WHO DO WE GOT IN CHAMBERS? YOU KNOW, COUNCILWOMAN REALLY, AND
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COUNSELING ON AND, OF COURSE, OUR, UM SB PEOPLE.SIR YOU REMEMBER YOU DON'T NEED A FORM TO START. SO WHENEVER YOU WANT HIM THANK YOU. WHEN THEY GET THE LITTLE MERMAID RUNNING AGAIN, OKAY?
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BUT YOUR TV WILL GET STARTED IN 60 SECONDS.[Call to Order]
BASE WELCOME TO THE PARKS AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE. TODAY IS THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 16TH 2023, THE TIME IS CURRENTLY 303 PM I'M CHAIRMAN RICK COREY ARTHUR. WE ALSO HAVE COMMITTEE MEMBERS.[Roll Call]
RULI BETH SEAN. AND FOWLER JOINING US VIRTUALLY WE ALSO HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER OWEN AND CHAMBERS AND IF ANYONE ELSE JOINS, JUST PLEASE SIGNAL ME DOWN. LET ME KNOW. THIS MEETING HAS BEEN HELD PURSUANT TO KRS 61.826 AND COUNCIL RULE FIVE A. THE ONLY BUSINESS WE HAVE TODAY IS A SPECIAL DISCUSSION ABOUT THE BEAR GRASS CREEK RESTORATION PROJECT, AND WE HAVE SPECIAL GUESTS HERE TO TELL US ALL ABOUT IT. PLEASE SAY YOUR NAME. ORGANIZATION OR DEPARTMENT AND TITLE FOR THE RECORD, AND THEN YOU CAN START. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. GOOD AFTERNOON,[Special Discussion]
EVERYBODY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING THIS. MY NAME IS WOLFIE MILLER. I AM INFRASTRUCTURE PLANNING PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR FOR MSD WITHIN OUR ENGINEERING GROUP. AND I HAVE A PRESENTATION TODAY THAT I'LL GO THROUGH. IT WAS ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED FOR WHAT WEATHER TEAM COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDER GROUP IN DECEMBER OF 2022 AND ALL THE INFORMATION IS STILL VALID AND HOPEFULLY WILL GENERATE A LOT OF GOOD CONVERSATION TODAY. AND I HOPE THE SAME JUST FROM MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE COUNCIL MEMBERS. THE PUBLIC, UH, PRESENTATION IS ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA ITEM SHOUT OUT TO THE CLERKS. ALRIGHT, YOU CAN GO AHEAD. AND CHAIRMAN AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS BY NAME IS WEST SYDNOR. I'M ALSO WITH MSD. AND FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU ALL FOR ALLOWING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND THE HISTORY AND WHERE WE'RE GOING FROM WHERE WE'RE GOING FROM HERE. I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT COUNCILWOMAN PARTNER IS ALSO IN THE CHAMBERS NOW. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT'S FOR THE RECORD. SO THIS FEASIBILITY STUDY WAS ORIGINALLY AUTHORIZED THROUGH THE IS AUTHORIZED THROUGH THE U. S ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS. IT WAS. IT WAS DEVELOPED AS A UP TO THREE YEAR UP TO $3 MILLION ECOSYSTEM.RESURRECTION RESTORATION FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR THE THREE FORKS ABOUT GRASS CREEK. I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT WE COMPLETED THAT, UH, WITHIN THIS WELL WITHIN THOSE THREE YEARS AND UNDER BUDGET, UM AT THE TIME, IT WAS ONE OF ONLY SIX PROJECTS TO BE FUNDED AMERICAN NATIONAL BOWL AND THE ONLY ASTEROID ECOSYSTEM RESTORATION PROJECT THAT WAS SELECTED AS PART OF THE FEASIBILITY STUDY. MSD WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR 50% MATCHED UP TO $1.5 MILLION AND THE OTHER $1.5 MILLION WAS FEDERALLY FUNDED. CAN YOU LEAN A LITTLE CLOSER INTO MIKE? SO I DON'T KNOW. IF ANYONE? YES, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THE GOALS OF THE FEASIBILITY STUDY WERE TO EXPLICITLY TO IMPROVE THE WATER QUALITY AND CONNECTIVITY OF THE STREAM AND RIPARIAN HABITAT FOR AND WE TRIED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS WITHIN OUR MISSION TO FOSTER SAFE AND CLEAN STREAMS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. WE THE INTENT WAS TO PRODUCE A PLAN THAT WAS TO IDENTIFY RESTORATION ALTERNATIVES TO IMPROVE THE ECOLOGICAL FORM AND FUNCTION OF THE BURGESS CREEK WATERSHED.
BARE GROCERY WATERSHED IN AND OF ITSELF REPRESENTS THE SOUTH, MIDDLE AND MUDDY FORKS. UM EARLY
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ON IN THE FEASIBILITY STUDY. IT WAS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE WOULD ACHIEVE THROUGH THE WORK ITSELF. ARE THE ONES MOST IMPORTANT TO US WERE TO INCREASE THE STREAM GM OR FAKE AND HABITAT FUNCTION. UM, AND TO POTENTIALLY FIND WAYS TO FROM EMBASSIES. PERSPECTIVE OPPORTUNITIES TO MOVE A REALIGNED INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WOULD SUPPORT THAT HABITAT RESTORATION PROJECT. ULTIMATELY IMPROVING WATER QUALITY. THIS WAS A MAP THAT WAS PRODUCED AS A RESULT OF THE FEASIBILITY STUDY BY THE CORE. WE IDENTIFIED A DOZEN LOCATIONS WHERE WE WOULD BE ABLE TO IMPROVE AND GENERATE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AND BENEFITS. THEY INCLUDED AREAS NEAR THE OHIO RIVER BY THE BOTANICAL GARDENS UP THROUGH CHEROKEE AND SENECA PARKS NEAR THE LOUISVILLE ZOO AND NATURE CENTER. AND UM, THESE ARE SOME PICTURES OF AND THOSE AREAS. UM WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WE TRY TO IDENTIFY LOCATIONS FOR IMPROVEMENT THAT WERE PRIMARILY ALONG AND NEAR THE CREEKS AND STREAMS AND AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, PUBLICLY OWNED OR AVAILABLE. THIS IS JUST A SUMMARY OF WHAT THOSE MAJOR PROPERTY OWNERS ARE WITHIN THE FINAL FEASIBILITY STUDY. AS YOU CAN SEE WHAT MSD DOES OWN A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION. TO BE DISCUSSED. MAJOR PLAYERS INCLUDE METRO PARKS AND METRO GOVERNMENT CITY OF ST MATTHEWS, AS WELL AS SOME PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS AS WELL. UM THIS IS MY BEST SHOT AT DESCRIBING WHAT THE OVERALL COST IS AND HOW IT LAYS OUT. ONE REMINDER IS THAT THE FEASIBILITY STUDY WAS PREPARED AS MSD AS THE ONLY NON FEDERAL SPONSOR SO AS THE ONLY NON FEDERAL SPONSOR ALL PROPERTY ACQUISITION IS REQUIRED EITHER TO PURCHASE OR TO ACQUIRE CONSERVATION EASEMENTS ON ANY PROPERTY THAT IS NON MSD OWNED SINCE WE'RE THE ONLY NAMED NON FEDERAL SPONSOR IN THAT LIGHT OF THE TOTAL PROJECT IS A 65 35% COST SHARE WITH 35% WOULD BE NON FEDERAL SO OF THE $121 MILLION PROJECT. A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN $42 MILLION WOULD HAVE TO BE CONTRIBUTED BY THE NON FEDERAL SPONSOR. OF THAT, UM AND OF THAT WE HAVE AN IMAGE OF REQUIRED 5% CASH MATCH AND THE OTHER CAN BE THE OTHER. UM THE OTHER 30% CAN BE CONTRIBUTED AND WORKING KIND OR ACQUIRING THE LAND AND EASEMENTS OR ANY DEMOLITION OR UTILITY RELOCATIONS. AS IT WORKS OUT RIGHT NOW, THE LANDS AND EASEMENTS ARE SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THAT, BECAUSE THERE'S A COST FOR US TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY THAT'S NOT MST OWNED. UM THAT LANDED DAMAGES WOULD BE $31 MILLION AND UTILITY RELOCATIONS AT $17 MILLION AS STDS PERSPECTIVE IS A NON ONLY NAMES, NON FEDERAL SPONSOR THAT'S ACTUALLY MORE THAN 35% MINIMUM REQUIRED OR SO THAT'S $12 MILLION MORE THAN THAT. SO WE WOULD NOT HAVE AN ADDITIONAL COST FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE. AT THE TIME, AND STILL AT THE TIME THE PATH FORWARD WAS BEEN I'VE BEEN TRYING TO PUT IT ON WEST BUT TO MEET WITH POTENTIAL OTHER POTENTIAL NON FEDERAL SPONSORS GENERATE THESE PARTNERSHIPS, EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR OTHER ALTERNATIVE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES OR OTHER FUNDRAISING. UM AND GRANTS AND OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE SPENDING. UM THE BASE MESSAGE HERE IS THAT MSD CANNOT DO THIS PROJECT ALONE AND IN THE OVERALL COST WILL GO DOWN WITH OTHER PARTNERS ENGAGED , BECAUSE, UM, WE MUST EVEN NOT HAVE TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY NOT OWNED BY A MUSTY. SO MSD IS EAGER TO CONTINUE OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE FEASIBILITY STUDY. IDENTIFY THESE PARTNERS. UM TRYING TO IDENTIFY ALTERNATIVE FUNDING SOURCES. AND WITH THIS PROJECT ALONG. I THINK THAT CONCLUDES THE PORTION OF THE PRESENTATION. YES SO, UM AND WOLFIE, YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE WITH THE DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNERS AND BEHIND ME IN THE ROOM. WE HAVE SEVERAL OF THE POTENTIAL PARTNERS AND SOME STAKEHOLDERS IN THIS PROCESS AND EVERY ONE FROM. KENTUCKY WATERWAYS ALLIANCE TO METRO PARKS IS REPRESENTED METRO GOVERNMENT AND SO UM, YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT THIS LIST AND I SEE A LIST OF POTENTIAL AND PROBABLE PARTNERS AS WE TRY TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.AND SO I THINK TODAY IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SORT OF RESET THE STAGE AND WHAT THOSE NEXT STEPS LOOK LIKE WHAT THE TIMELINE IS WITH THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS AND WHAT THEY'LL NEED
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FROM US IN TERMS OF COMMITMENTS. SO. WITH THAT IN MIND. I'LL JUST ASK, YOU KNOW WOLF BEFORE BEGIN TO QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE IF YOU COULD GIVE SOME MORE DETAILS ON WHAT THOSE NEXT ACTIONS ARE. AND YOU KNOW, SORT OF THE TIMELINE FOR THEM. TICKETS CENTER. THE FEASIBILITY STUDY IS COMPLETE. THE CHIEF'S REPORT BY THE CORPS WAS SIGNED ALREADY ABOUT A YEAR AGO. SO THE LOUISVILLE DISTRICT OF THE CORE WITHOUT SPEAKING FOR THEM, I BELIEVE THEY ARE PURSUING FEDERAL FUNDING THROUGH THEIR BUDGETING PROCESS, AND IT IS IN PARALLEL WITH ANY NON FEDERAL SPONSORS TO ALSO PURSUE FUNDING. I'M SORRY. CAN YOU SAY THAT AGAIN? I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU SAID. SO TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A DESIGN AND EVENTUALLY CONSTRUCTION PHASE IS THAT 3535 65% COST SHARE. SO IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE LOCAL DISTRICT OF THE ARMY CORPS IS PURSUING THEIR THROUGH THEIR BUDGETARY PROCESS THAT ANY FUNDS THAT WOULD ANY FEDERAL DOLLARS TO ALLOCATE TOWARDS MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS, SO THERE'S 65% OF WHATEVER THE NEXT PHASES, WHICH MEANS THAT AS SOON AS THAT FUNDING IS AVAILABLE, WHICH I DO NOT UNDERSTAND, NOT TO MY I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S CURRENTLY AVAILABLE AS SOON AS THAT FUNDING BECOMES AVAILABLE, ANY NON FEDERAL SPONSORS THAT COME TO THE TABLE TO MATCH THAT WITH THE 35% SO IN OTHER WORDS, THE WAY THE STEPS WORK IS THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS. LOCAL COURT OF ENGINEERS KIND OF SECURE THE FEDERAL PORTION OF THE MONEY. AND THEN AT THAT POINT, THE NON FEDERAL ORGANIZATIONS, WHICH ARE LED BY MSD. IN THIS CASE. UH WOULD START WORKING TOWARDS RAISING ITS 35. THAT'S KIND OF THE STEP BY STEP PROCESS. YES. OKAY? THANK YOU SO MUCH. THE $121 MILLION PROJECT. SHOWS SOME TEXAS SAYS OPTIMIZED PLAN BECAUSE YOU JUST EXPLAIN EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS AND IF THERE ARE OTHER PLANS WITH A DIFFERENT DOLLAR MILK. UM THERE WERE. THERE WERE NO OTHER FINAL PLANS.IN ORDER TO GET DOWN TO THIS. THERE IS AN EXHAUSTIVE LOOK AT THE BENEFITS AND THE COST OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF IMPROVEMENTS THAT EACH ONE OF THESE DOZEN SITES AND THESE WERE THE ONES THAT WERE DEEMED MOST COST EFFECTIVE AND MOST FEASIBLE TO HAPPEN. SO THIS IS THE FINAL OPTIMIST PLAN AND IN THE LANGUAGE OF THE FEASIBILITY STUDY. AND THE 17 MILLION FOR RELOCATIONS. WHAT EXACTLY DOES THAT IN TURN? THOSE ARE UTILITY RELOCATION, SO SOME OF THE ALTERNATIVES TO DO OR TO REDEFINE THE STREAM BANKS. THREE CONNECT THE STREAM WITH LOCAL FLOODPLAINS THAT'S ACTUALLY MOVING DIRT, AND ANY TIME WE WOULD POTENTIALLY MOVE THAT THAT EARTH WE COULD EITHER EXPOSE UTILITIES THAT ARE UNDERGROUND, SO THERE'D BE SOME COST TO MOVE THOSE UTILITIES OUTSIDE OF THE CONSTRUCTION ZONE. WE HAD A PRESENTATION UNTIL LONG AGO ABOUT ANOTHER LOCAL PRIEST. AND THEY SHARED PROJECT SPACES WITH US. WOULD YOU SAY THAT THE PROJECT AREA HIGHLIGHTS FOR YOU ALL THE PRIORITIES AND RANK ORDER OR DO YOU HAVE PHASES THAT YOU'D BE INTERESTED IN ITS FUNDING BECOMES AVAILABLE AT THIS POINT. WE HAVE NOT DEFINED ANY PHASES ANY ONE OF THOSE DOZEN OR AVAILABLE TO MOVE FORWARD IN PHASES THROUGH THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION. I THINK IT'S ALL A RELATIONSHIP TO BE DETERMINED WITH THE OTHER PARTNERS THAT WE DEFINE WHAT WHAT OUR PRIORITIES DO THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT COME TO THE TABLE AND WHAT IS FUNDING ALLOW UNDERSTOOD. VICE CHAIR PARKER. YES THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. HAVE YOU PURSUED YET? ANY OTHER GRAND TOURS? TO HELP WITH THE 35. I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT. WE HAVE BUT YOU'RE GOING TO CORRECT. OKAY I MEAN, DO YOU? YEAH YOU HAVE A LIST IN MIND IF YOU'RE WILLING TO SHARE THAT. WITH US AS FAR AS GRAND OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE 35. I'LL JUST SAY THIS IS OUR PHILOSOPHY AS AN AGENCY ON EVERYTHING THAT WE DO, INCLUDING THIS PROJECT, TOO. SEEK OUT ALTERNATIVE FUNDING MECHANISMS AND SO WE DON'T HAVE THOSE IDENTIFIED YET.
IT'S SORT OF WHAT THAT 35% IS AT. THE MOMENT IS STILL A LITTLE UNDEFINED. WHEN YOU FACTOR IN THE PROPERTY AND THAT VALUE AND THEN WHAT ACTUAL CACHES IS NEEDED AS PART OF THE PROJECT.
BUT ONCE WE HAVE SOME OF THAT DEFINITION, THEN WE WILL DEFINITELY SEEK OUT, UH, IN TURN
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OVER EVERY STONE THAT WE CAN TO TRY TO FIND. AH! YOU KNOW FEDERAL FUNDING TO HELP SUPPORT THIS THIS EVER OKAY, SO WHEN YOU DO, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR MORE INFORMATION SO THAT YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE POSSIBLE GRANT ORDERS AND SAY THIS IS SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE NEED DOLLARS FOR. YES. AND MAYBE THAT WOULD BE THE PROPERTY OWNERS. PEOPLE DIDN'T HAVE A PIECE OF THE PROPERTY COULD BE. YEAH THAT COULD BE THE NATURE CONSERVANCY. I MEAN, YOU'VE GOTTA WRITE OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT YOU CAN GO TO YES. THANK YOU. FOR THE RECORD. WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER MULVA HERE. COMMITTEE MEMBER, RUI OKAY. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TODAY AND FILLING US IN ON THIS. I'M CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT THE TIMELINE LOOKS LIKE. MY UNDERSTANDING WOULD BE FIRST.YOU'VE GOT TO GET VERIFICATION THAT YOU GET THE FEDERAL FUNDING. AND THEN YOU'D BE LOOKING TO GATHER THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING. AND THEN YOU THEN YOU'D FINALLY BE ABLE TO GET STARTED AND MOVING SOMETHING AROUND. SO WHAT'S THE TIMEFRAME LOOK LIKE FORGETTING THE FEDERAL FUNDING.
AH! TO SUMMARIZE. I WOULD SAY THERE'S NO GUARANTEE OF THE TIMELINE AT ALL, AND THEY GO THROUGH A BIANNUAL BUDGETING PROCESS. BUT THEY CAN ALSO HAVE DIFFERENT AVENUES THAT I'VE AWARE OF THAT THEY REQUEST PORTIONS OF THEIR WORK PLAN. UM SO I DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE FOR REQUESTING FEDERAL FUNDING, AND THEN THE TIMELINE GOING THROUGH DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION WOULD REALLY BE DETERMINED BY ANY POTENTIAL PHASES LIKE. I WASN'T GONNA ADD. IS THERE ANY HISTORICAL. TIMELINES THAT WE COULD LEAN BACK. IT'S HARD TO PREDICT WHAT CONGRESS AND WHAT YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IN THIS BUDGETING ATMOSPHERE, WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO AND WIN.
THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE LIKE A HISTORICAL WHAT SO OKAY, SO YOU ALREADY APPLIED FOR THE FEDERAL FUNDING. THEN, UM THE EVEN BELIEVE, EVEN BEFORE THE FEASIBILITY STUDY WAS COMPLETING THE CHIEFS AND CHIEFS AND CHIEFS REPORT WAS SIGNED ABOUT A YEAR AGO. THE LOCAL DISTRICT WAS INCLUDING THIS IN THEIR BUDGETING REQUESTS, OR AT LEAST ADVOCATE. I DON'T THINK THEY CAN HAVE THEY CAN BE TALKING ABOUT THE PROJECT INTERNALLY, UM SO I KNOW IT'S ONGOING AND THERE IS A STRONG DESIRE TO SEE THIS HAPPEN. UM. OKAY YEAH. AND YEAH.
T'WOLVES POINT. THE ARMY CORPS CAN'T ADVOCATE UM AND LOBBY AND SO WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS TO EXPRESS THE UH, THE IMPACT AND THE BENEFITS OF THIS PROJECT AS WELL AS WHETHER OTHER WORK AND THAT SORT OF SPHERE UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION UNDERSTANDS THE IMPORTANCE AND THE VALUE OF THIS PROJECT. AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CHAIR ARTHUR. WE'VE ALSO BEEN JOINED BAD COMMITTEE MEMBER BAKER. THANK YOU SO MUCH. COUNCIL MEMBER. OWEN, WHO ACTUALLY BROUGHT THIS TO MY ATTENTION WAS THE REASON THAT YOU MUST THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU CHAIR. APPRECIATE IT AS JUST KIND OF A CONTINUATION OF COUNCILWOMAN RUIZ QUESTIONING, I GUESS. UM. SO ARE THEIR CRITERIA THAT ARE BEING USED TO DETERMINE WHO GETS THE MONEY. THEY REQUESTED THE MONEY IN THEIR ANNUAL BUDGET REQUEST. BUT IS THERE AN APPLICATION THAT HAS CRITERIA AND I GUESS I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT PROCESS OR IF IT'S JUST IT'S JUST AT THE WHIM OF CONGRESS. CAN YOU FILL FILL US IN ON THAT AT ALL? I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANYTHING TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO WHAT THEY'RE PUSHING PROCESS IS FAIR ENOUGH. AND THEN THE OTHER. YOU TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT KIND OF STREAM RESTORATION, BANK RESTORATION CONNECTING, UM BACK TO FLOOD ZONES AND SOME OTHER THINGS.
WHAT WHAT CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT OPTIMIZATION LOOKS LIKE? AND THEN WHAT? SOME OF THE MAYBE ANCILLARY BENEFITS ARE IN ADDITION TO YOU KNOW THE OPTIMIZATION? YES SO THEY CAME UP THE CORE TEAM AND THE MSD TEAM. WE CAME UP WITH A SOLUTION SET SO IT COULD BE REMOVING INVASIVE SPECIES THAT COULD BE REALIGNING US ENTIRE STREAM CORRIDOR FROM ONE THAT WAS HISTORICALLY STRAIGHTENED. IT COULD BE JUST RECONNECTING THE EXISTING STREAM TO A LOCAL FLOODPLAIN TO WHERE IT ACTUALLY COME OUT OF ITS BANKS AND NOT IMPACT FLOW HOMES OR BUILDINGS OF ANY SORT. SO WITHIN THIS SET OF POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS, WE TRIED TO RIGHT SIZE WHAT IS AVAILABLE
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ON ANY ONE OF THESE SITES? UM WHAT'S THE COST OF ACCOMPLISHING THAT WITH THE BENEFIT? MAKE SURE THERE'S NO NEGATIVE IMPACTS TO RAISING THE FOOTPRINT IN THE AREAS. UM IN THE COST OF DOING EACH ONE OF THESE POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS. AND WHAT'S THAT BENEFIT COST RATIO? WHERE DO YOU GET TO A SWEETS PARTNERS? THAT OPTIMIZED PLAN IS TRYING TO FIND THE RIGHT SOLUTION FOR THE RIGHT SPACE. OKAY AND THEN IN TERMS OF ANCILLARY BENEFITS, UM YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT THIS PROJECT AND EVEN THOUGH IT'S AN ECOSYSTEM RESTORATION PROJECTS SO FOCUSED ON ALL THE COMPONENTS THAT THAT WOLFIE WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT. I THINK THERE IS SUCH AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, UM YOU KNOW, CONNECTION AND ESPECIALLY WITH THE PART WHERE THE OWNERSHIP OF THESE DIFFERENT PROPERTIES YOU HAVE. PARKS AND METRO GOVERNMENT. OTHER ENTITIES THEY'RE INVOLVED. SO WHAT ARE THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR? UH, YOU KNOW, PARKWAY OR YOU KNOW, PARK PATHS AND TRAILHEADS AND OTHER ANSWER YOUR BENEFITS LIKE A NEW LAUNCHES, AND, UH, WAYS FOR FOLKS TO ENGAGE WITH THE WATERWAYS. SO I THINK THAT IS ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING THAT WILL WANT TO TALK ABOUT AND WANT TO BRING MORE PEOPLE INTO THE FOLD. HAVE THAT DISCUSSION ABOUT BECAUSE THAT GETS A LITTLE BIT OUT OF THE WHEELHOUSE OF MSD, BUT DEFINITELY IN THE WHEELHOUSE OF, UH THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS OF THIS PROJECT, POTENTIALLY. AND THEN FINALLY, I WANTED TO TOUCH ON ONE THING THAT I THINK WE'VE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT IN THE PAST. AND THAT'S UM DONATION OF LAND AS BEING SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PURSUE. THAT COULD BE BENEFICIAL TO BOTH THE LANDOWNER AND TWO THAT'S THAT'S ONE WAY TO GET VALUE TOWARD THE 35% RIGHT IS TO GET AN APPRAISAL ON A PIECE OF LAND AND HAVE SOMEONE DONATE THAT, UH AND THAT WOULD GO TOWARD OUR CONTRIBUTION IS THAT CORRECT? THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF NUANCE SPACE AND TALKING TO THE CORES, REAL ESTATE, FOLKS OF DONATION AND HOW THAT IMPACTS THE 35% OVER COMPARED TO THE OVERALL PROJECT COSTS, AND I'M NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH THAT IS THE CORE WOULD BE BUT PROPERTY THAT'S A QUARTER GOES TO THAT. SO I THINK, EVEN IF IT'S ACQUIRED FOR A SMALL DOLLAR AMOUNT OPPOSED TO A DONATION IS MEANINGFUL TO HOW THE CORE ATTRIBUTES THAT COST SHARE. WELL, I WOULD HOPE THAT THEY WOULD THAT THEY WOULD VALUE THAT IN THE SAME WAY THE LAND HAS A VALUE AND IF IT'S CONTRIBUTED TO THE OVERALL PIE, I WOULD HOPE THAT THEY WOULD ACCOUNT THAT VALUE THE SAME AS THEY WOULD IF YOU PAID THAT AMOUNT FOR IT. SO, UM, THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. APPRECIATE YOU GUYS BEING HERE. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. SO I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE PROPERTY ACQUISITION BY OWNER. IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING. SO COULD YOU JUST CLARIFY FOR ME? I SEE LOUISVILLE METRO PARTS AND IT LISTS OF SPECIFIC SITE. THEN I SEE LOUISVILLE METRO GOVERNMENT. WHAT MADE YOU ASK SEPARATE THOSE TWO AND I ASSUME THERE'S NO OVERLAP. THOSE ARE TOTALLY SEPARATE SITES AND SEPARATE UH, ACRES. BUT COULD YOU JUST EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT? WHY THOSE ARE SEPARATE AND WHAT THAT MEANS. THAT IS CORRECT. THOSE ARE ENTIRELY SEPARATE, SO THOSE ARE NOT AND THERE'S NO DUPLICATION OF ANCHORAGES OR PERCENTAGES. UM THIS THIS WILL THE ELDER REAL ESTATE WORK WAS DONE BY THE CORE, AND THEY LOOKED AT THE NAMES ON THE PROPERTIES. SO THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN METRO PARKS AND METRO GOVERNMENT TO SOME DEGREE THAT THEY FOUND. UM AND EACH ONE OF THOSE WAS WAS DISTRIBUTED POTENTIALLY ACROSS MULTIPLE SITES. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ROUGHLY YOU KNOW 38 40% ISH.PERCENTAGE OF THE PLAN BY A BRIDGE. I'M CURIOUS IF YOU HAVE LIKE A DREAM NUMBER OF HOW MUCH LIBERAL MATURE GOVERNMENT MIGHT SUPPORT THIS WITH CONSIDERING THAT'S HOW MUCH APRONS WE HAVE.
I HAVEN'T GONE TO, UH, EXTENT OF COMING UP WITH A DREAM NUMBER. UM IT'S BEEN REALLY DIFFICULT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE TO COME UP WITH A POTENTIAL PHASES OR HOW WE DO THIS OR TARGETED SITES.
AND WHAT THAT COST IS THAT THE COURT DID NOT SHARE THE WORK THAT THEY DID FOR COST PER SIDE OR COST PER PARCEL. IN PARTICULAR, THEY DIDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE. PRODUCING THAT DETAILED ANALYSIS THAT THEY DID SO OBVIOUSLY EVERY PARCEL HAS A UNIQUE VALUE THAT'S ASSIGNED TO IT. UM AND HOW ALL THESE PARTNERS COME TOGETHER, GIVE YOU DIFFERENT CAPABILITIES OF MOVING FORWARD. AND DIFFERENT COSTS TO DO THAT. THANK YOU. COMMITTEE MEMBER RULEY. THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOU EXPLAINED TO THOSE PRESENT WHEN THE STREAM IS CHANNEL EYES THAT HAS THE EFFECT OF RISING UP AND FLOODING DURING RAIN EVENTS AND THEN DROPPING DRAMATICALLY WHEN THE RAIN
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EVENTS ARE PAST. COULD YOU TALK ABOUT HOW THIS STREAM RESTORATION? IS GOING TO AFFECT, UM THE RISE AND FALL AND THE POTENTIAL FOR FLOODING AND HOW IT'S GOING TO BENEFIT OUR COMMUNITY. SO THIS IS PRIMARILY AN ECOSYSTEM RESTORATION PROJECT , SO IT IS NOT SPECIFICALLY TO ADDRESS FLOODING OR FLOODPLAIN. THERE ARE SOME NATURAL BENEFITS IN AREAS WHERE THEY COULD RECONNECT AND REALLY LOWER THE ADJACENT AREA THAT'S NEXT TO THE EXISTING STREAM AND GET SOME POTENTIAL STORAGE AND, UH, IN THE TERM. UM BUT THE PRIMARY OBJECTIVE OF THIS IS MAKING SURE IT WASN'T GOING TO NEGATIVELY IMPACT ANY FLOODING. IT WAS NOT TO ADDRESS FLOODING CAUSED BY RAIN EVENTS. OKAY IS THAT A LONG TERM THING THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO WORK TOWARDS ADDRESSING. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE WITHIN THIS PROJECT. OKAY, THANK YOU. I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE. WE GOT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ONE ONCE, ONE TWICE.GOING THRICE. ALRIGHT JUST A FEW SOFTBALLS. THIS IS A MOMENT YOU'RE IN FRONT OF THE PARTS OF SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE. WHY IS IT IMPORTANT? TO RESTORE BEAR GRASS CREEK. THAT'S WHAT I MEAN.
WELL, UM. I'LL START WITH THIS AND THEN THE OTHER AND I'M SURE THERE ARE A LOT OF VOICES IN THIS ROOM THAT WOULD HAVE COMMENT ON THIS, BUT UM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, PARAGRAPHS CREEK.
UH, IS. IT CONNECTS ALL THE WAY FROM I THINK MIDDLETOWN EXTENDS MIDDLETOWN ALL THE WAY TO DOWNTOWN. AND YOU KNOW, SO A LARGE PORTION OF OUR COMMUNITY HAS WHETHER THEY UH, FOLKS REALIZE IT OR NOT HAVE A CONNECTION TO BARRIER S CREEK. AND YOU ARE. ONE OF OUR IT'S CERTAINLY IN OUR TAGLINE AND M S D'S SAFE, CLEAN WATERWAYS AND SO THIS PROJECT, UM AND OTHER WORK THAT WE'RE DOING IN VARIOUS CREEK, WHETHER IT'S OVERFLOWING, REDUCTION OR ELIMINATION OR ECOSYSTEM RESTORATION OR FLIGHT. IT'S ALL TO IMPROVE THAT, UM YEAH, THAT WATER BODY IS PART OF THE FABRIC OF THE COMMUNITY. I THINK THIS PROJECT AND OTHERS WILL HELP, UH, RAISED THAT CONNECTIVITY FOR FOLKS TO THE WATERWAY. WE HAVE MAJOR PARKS THAT ARE CONNECTED AND THAT BURGER RESTAURANT BLOWS THROUGH. AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IMPROVEMENT TO BEAR GRASS CREEK HELPS WITH THE IMPROVEMENT OF THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN GLOBAL METRO AND. YES THAT'S MY PERSPECTIVE ON IT. I THINK IT'S AN ASSET AND WE SHOULD TREAT IT AS SUCH, UM, AGAIN FOR THE QUALITY OF LIFE HERE. AND HOPEFULLY SOMEDAY WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE PEOPLE CAN GET IN AND ENJOY IT. MORE THAN THEY ARE NOW. ANYTHING TO ADD. THAT WAS GREAT. OKAY? YEAH THAT WAS ALRIGHT TOGETHER SOME MONEY. YOU GOTTA COME HERE WITH IT. ALRIGHT YEAH, YEAH. YEAH SO I'M NOT QUITE MY LAST TWO QUESTIONS. HOW CAN METRO COUNCIL HELP? AND THEN HOW CAN THE LARGER PUBLIC HEALTH RESTORATION. I'LL START THIS AND THEN WHAT PEOPLE WANT. UM SO HOW CAN METRO COUNCIL HELP AGAIN? RAISING AWARENESS? THIS IS A WHEN THIS OPPORTUNITY FIRST PRESENTED ITSELF I WANT TO SAY IN 2018 I WISH. UM THERE'S LOTS OF DISCUSSION ON HOW TO MAKE THIS. THIS FIRST PHASE THE PLANNING, PAYS WORK AND GET STARTED. AND SO THERE WERE LOTS OF DISCUSSIONS AND THE CONSENSUS WAS WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO MAKE THIS PROJECT WORKED. WE HAD TO WAIT. FIND A WAY TO FIND THE MONEY. UH TO GET THIS PLANNING PHASE OFF THE GROUND BECAUSE THIS IS A YOU KNOW, AT LEAST ONCE IN A GENERATION OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS, UH YOU KNOW THIS WATERSHED THIS STREAM.
IT'S VERY URBANIZED. LIKE I SAID, IT'S PART OF THE FABRIC OF ABOUT OUR CITY, AND THIS WAS A REALLY RARE IF NOT ONE, OFF OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY REINVEST. IN THIS WATERWAY. AND SO WE DID NOT WANT TO LOSE THAT OPPORTUNITY. AND SO WE MSD AND SEVERAL PARTNERS AROUND THE TABLE FOUND A WAY TO MAKE THAT WORK AND GET THAT SUPPORT FINANCIALLY TO MAKE THAT PROJECT WORK. TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE AT NOW AND THE NEXT STEP AND WHAT WE WOULD NEED FROM METRO
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COUNCIL AND OTHERS IS, UM, YOU KNOW, AS WE START TO DEVELOP THE NEXT SCOPE FOR THIS PROJECT.WHAT IN THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS ARE TIED TO IT. TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO PULL THOSE PARTNERS AND PULL THOSE DOLLARS TOGETHER. TO HELP SUPPORT THE NEXT PHASE OF THE PROJECT SO THAT WE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS. UH REALLY, REALLY EXCEPTIONAL AND RARE OPPORTUNITY. AND SO I THINK. YOU WILL SEE. US AGAIN WHEN WE AND OTHERS IN THIS ROOM WHEN WE START TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT WHAT THAT SUPPORT LOOKS LIKE AND WE WILL BE ASKING FOR, YOU KNOW, CONTINUED SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT. ALL RIGHT, AND ONE MORE TIME WORKING PEOPLE GET MORE INFORMATION OUTSIDE OF THE SLIDE ATTACHED HIS PRESENTATION. UM AS THIS WAS LED THROUGH THE THROUGH THE ARMY CORPS, YOU CAN PRETTY EASILY DO AN INTERNET SEARCH FOR THREE FORKS AND GRASS CREEK ECOSYSTEM RESTORATION FEASIBILITY STUDY. IF YOU CAN SPELL THOSE WORDS AS BEST I CAN SAY THEM, UM AND THERE ARE HOSTED ON THE COURSE WEBSITE WITH THE ENTIRE CHIEF'S REPORT IN THE FINAL REPORT WITH ALL OF THE GRAPHICS THAT PRODUCED AND WE WILL GET THAT TO YOU ALL TO THE COMMITTEE. SPEAKING OF SPELLING, I'M SURE YOU ALL SAW A RECENT REPORT DISREGARDING MSD AND THE WORK THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING, AND THERE WAS UM, A STATEMENT ABOUT HOW SOMETIMES PEOPLE CAN'T UNDERSTAND OR COMPREHEND WHAT'S BEING PUT OUT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT, SO JUST TRY TO BE CONSCIOUS OF THAT, AS WE DO THIS WORK OVER HALF THE US OF THOSE READERS OF SIXTH GRADE NUMBER OR LESS, SO JUST KEEP THAT IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND, BECAUSE YOU ALL ARE SCIENTISTS AND EXPERTS IN YOUR FIELD AND HAVEN'T PERSON MIGHT NOT GET WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. WOLFIE WEST ALL OF YOUR GUESTS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. YOU DON'T HAVE ANY MORE BUSINESS TODAY, SO WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.