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GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU FOR JOINING THE MEETING FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE. I AM. GO[Call to Order]
AND HAVING THE CHAMBERS COUNCILMAN DANCE SIGN COUNCILWOMAN SHOULD MAKE PARIS[Roll Call]
RIGHT IN VIRTUALLY WE ARE JOINED BY COUNCILMAN BRENT ACKERSON. COUNCILMAN STUART BENSON.[00:10:02]
COUNCIL MEMBER DONNA FLOOD. WE ALSO BEING JOINED TODAY BY COUNCILMAN PRESIDENT MARCUS WINKLER. AND COUNCILMAN RICK BLACK WHALE TODAY WE HAVE ONE PIECE OF LEGISLATION. I'M GOING TO LET THE CLERK'S OFFICE READ THE DISCLAIMER. THIS MEETING IS BEING HELPERS TO INTO CARE IS[Pending Legislation]
61.826 AND COUNCIL RULE FIVE A.AN ORDINANCE AMENDING LOUISVILLE METRO CODE OF ORDINANCES. LN CEO CHAPTER 119 REGISTRATION OF RENTAL HOUSING UNITS. WASHINGTON PROOF. SECOND. WELL, GEORGE TODAY, BUT JEFFERSON COUNTY ATTORNEY JASON FOWLER, UH HE'S HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS LEGISLATION. THANK YOU. CHAIR PROVINCE. JASON FOWLER, ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY. IT HAS BEEN, UH. BENEFIT WORKING WITH THE ORIGINAL SPONSORS OF THIS ITEM AND SEEING IT PROGRESS BACK NOW, BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE, WE'VE HAD THE EXPERIENCE OF AN EFFORT NOW TO BRING A ENFORCEMENT PRACTICE TO METRO GOVERNMENT THAT INCORPORATES THIS LAW. AND DURING THAT TIME WE'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY. TO REVIEW OTHER LOCATIONS WHERE SIMILAR LEGISLATION HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED. AND. PUT OF ALL PUT ALL OF OUR BEST THOUGHTS TOGETHER ON WHAT TAILORING WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO TO OUR RENTAL REGISTRY THAT WOULD HELP ITS ENFORCEMENT AND HELP ITS ENFORCEMENT COMPLY. WITH BOTH THE. CONSTITUTION AND KEEP IT. UH, ON TRACK FROM FROM ANY OTHER CHALLENGES THAT MIGHT BE RAISED.
SO THESE THESE AMENDMENTS OCCUR. IN ORDINANCE. CHAPTER 119. 039, A AND. READING THE AMENDMENT INTO THE RECORD. IT IS THE LAST SENTENCE OF THAT PARAGRAPH NINE A READING THE FINAL SENTENCE INSPECTIONS SHALL ONLY OCCUR UPON PROPER NOTICE UNDER KRS 383.615 383.655. OF THE UNIFORM LANDLORD RESIDENTIAL TENANT ACT. THE EDIT NOW BEING COMMA BY ADMINISTRATIVE WARRANT OR ON OUR UPON CONSENT OF THE ARGUMENT. AND AMENDMENT THERE. THEN TAKING THESE IN CEREAL. WE CAN MOVE NEXT TO PARAGRAPH B. BEGINNING IN THE. SECOND SENTENCE OF THAT PARAGRAPH READING. WE ARE STRIKING RATHER. ANY RENTAL UNIT OR APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT IS FOUND TO HAVE TWO OR MORE EXISTING VIOLATIONS OF THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE. ON ITS EXTERIOR INTERIOR COMMON AREAS. MUST BE MADE AVAILABLE BY THE OWNER FOR AN INTERIOR INSPECTION BY THE DEPARTMENT OF CODES AND REGULATIONS. TO ENSURE THE UNIT IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE PERIOD. THESE INTERIOR INSPECTION OF SHELL TOTAL NO MORE THAN THE ANNUAL 10% OF RANDOM INSPECTIONS. PERIOD THE OWNER MUST SCHEDULE THE INSPECTION WITHIN 10 DAYS OF THE DATE OF VIOLATION VIOLATIONS WERE FOUND TO EXIST. AND. ONE FINAL EDIT IN THAT PARAGRAPH THE FINAL SENTENCE. SHALL BE STRUCK AS WELL, BEGINNING FAILURE OF AN OWNER TO ALLOW THE DEPARTMENT OF CODES AND REGULATIONS TO PHYSICALLY INSPECT A UNIT WITHIN REGISTERED RENTAL HOUSING.
EXCUSE ME OR IN A PROPERTY FOR WHICH REGISTRATION IS SOUGHT. SHALL WE CONSIDERED A VIOLATION OF THIS SECTION FOR THE PURPOSES OF SECTION? 1 19.99, A IN ADDING HMM. INSPECTIONS SHALL ONLY OCCUR UPON PROPER NOTICE UNDER KRS 383.615 AND 383.665. OF THE UNIFORM LANDLORD RESIDENTIAL
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TENANT ACT BY ADMINISTRATIVE WARRANT OR UPON CONSENT OF THE OCCUPANT. FINALLY ADDING PARAGRAPH C. PURSUANT TO KRS 383.705. A TENANT MAY MAINTAIN AN ACTION FOR RETALIATORY CONDUCT BY A LANDLORD TENANT HAS COMPLAINED TO A GOVERNMENTAL AGENCY CHARGED WITH RESPONSIBILITY FOR ENFORCEMENT OF A BUILDING OR HOUSING CODE. VIOLATION OF APPLICABLE TO THE PREMISES, MATERIALLY AFFECTING HEALTH AND SAFETY PERIOD WHENEVER IT'S IN. IT AGREES TO AN INSPECTION OF A RENTAL HOUSING UNIT COMMA TENANT SHALL BENEFIT FROM THE SAME PRESUMPTION UNDER KRS 383.705. THAT CONCLUDES A READING OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TAKEN IN SERIAL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, UM . ALSO LIKE TO MENTION FULL A RECORD. WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL AS WELL AS COUNCILMAN PHILIP BAKER AND COUNCILWOMAN TAMMY HAWKINS. UM MR BAKER. I SEE THAT YOU HAVE A QUESTION. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION. JUST WANT TO SAY, UH ONE. THANK YOU FOR THE COMMITTEE'S WORK IN THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR BRINGING US THE COMPLIANCE, AND ALL THOSE PARTIES INVOLVED. GOTTA AND OVERWHELMED FEEDBACK WITH MY CONSTITUENTS IN THE DAY SUPPORTED SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY GOOD WORK. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. THIS LEGISLATION CALLS FOR ROLL CALL VOTE. MA'AM.I GOT. I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. YES, SIR. YOU KNOW, WITH OUR NEW SYSTEM. UM IS THE GOVERNMENT SUBJECT TO THE SAME LAWS THAT THE PRIVATE CITIZENS ARE? DID WE INSPECT GOVERNMENTS? UM, APARTMENTS. UM BECAUSE WE HAVE UNDERSTAND IT. THERE'S A BUNCH OF APARTMENTS THAT HAD BEEN EXPECTED VERY WELL. VERY MUCH AND PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT IT, AND IT'S NOT PRIVATE CITIZENS. IT'S THE GOVERNMENT. BUT WE REPRESENT. AND WE SHOULD BE THE SHINING EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS A DECENT PLACE TO LIVE. NOT GO AFTER AND PUNISH PEOPLE. MM. WHOM WE'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING RIGHT? BUT WE CAN'T EVEN DO IT IN OUR OWN HOUSE. SO IT BOTHERS ME A LITTLE BIT. AND I GUESS I'LL HAVE TO ABSTAIN BECAUSE I HAVE A RENTAL PROPERTY AND SOMEBODY WHO KNOWS SOMETHING ABOUT RENTAL PROPERTY SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO VOTE ON STUFF LIKE THIS BECAUSE THAT SHOWS A PARTIALITY THAT UH, IT WOULDN'T BE FAIR. YEAH THANK YOU. YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. COUNCILMAN BENSON. UM THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS OF WHILE, UM COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS AND THE BEARS OFFICE. THEY'VE BEEN AGGRESSIVELY AND ACTIVELY WORKING WITH LOCAL METRO HOUSING AUTHORITY ON SOME OTHER NEGLECTED PROPERTIES. UM. AND THIS LAW PROTECTS. UH THE TENANTS THAT SPEAK OUT ABOUT THE NEGLECT AND THIS IS THIS IS NECESSARY TO PROTECT THOSE. THE UM ARE LIVING IN REALLY BAD CONDITIONS, BUT YET STILL EXPECT TO PAY RENT. SO YES, SIR. I WOULD THINK THAT THEY SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE JUST AS ANY PRIVATE LANDLORD. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. COUNCIL MEMBER, BLACKWELL. THANK YOU. I WOULD JUST POINT OUT COUNSELING THAT THIS WHAT WE'RE ADDRESSING TODAY DOESN'T ADD ANY RESTRICTIONS, UM , TO THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE RENTING AND FACTS, UM, IT CHANGES TO, UM MORE ALIGNED WITH SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT THOSE WHO OWN THE RENTAL PROPERTIES HAD INITIALLY SO IT'S UM. IT DOESN'T REQUIRE SOME OF THE INTERNAL INSPECTIONS THAT THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE THAT WE PASSED MONTHS AGO DID. UM AND THEN, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, THE CITY I AGREE WITH YOU. THE CITY SHOULD BE AN EXAMPLE OF YOU HAVE ANY DON'T THINK YOU'LL HAVE ANY FOLKS WHO WOULD DISAGREE WITH YOU THERE AND SUGGEST THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE PERHAPS IT'S A IT'S A DIFFERENT TOPIC. WHERE DO YOU TAKE THAT UP? AND I THINK YOU GET A LOT OF SUPPORT IF YOU HAD SOME KIND OF, UM ORDINANCE REQUIRING INSPECTIONS OR WHATEVER OF OUR OWN GOVERNMENT PROPERTIES SO AS COUNSEL AND SAID, THERE'S A LOT OF SUPPORT
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FOR THAT. IT'S NOT EITHER OR EITHER, OR THOUGH IN MY OPINION, NOT EITHER, OR I DON'T THINK WE WANT FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY WHETHER IT'S GOVERNMENT OWNED OR PRIVATELY OWNED, LIVING IN SUBSTANDARD HOUSING. AND ALL OF THE LANDLORDS WHO AREN'T DOING THAT AWESOME. KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR INVESTMENT IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS. DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY? SO THIS IS A QUESTION FOR MY COLLEAGUE. UM COUNCILMAN BLACKWELL. SO WERE YOU RECOMMENDING THAN, UM, THAT IT IMPLEMENTED? UM, THOSE THINGS IN THERE? RECOMMEND THE CORRECTIONS THAT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY OFFICE. SOMEONE TO DO PARAMETERS AROUND LANDLORDS, UM, THAT ARE BASICALLY NOT DOING ANYTHING WHEN THEY HAVE THOSE VIOLATIONS.YEAH YEAH. SO THE ORDINANCE ORDINANCE MAINTAINS THAT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING AND COUNTING ATTORNEY CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG HERE FROM MY UNDERSTANDING. WE JUST HAD A COUPLE OF PLACES WHERE IN THE ORDINANCE IN THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE THAT WE PASSED THAT THAT MADE THE, UH, THAT TRIGGERED INTERNAL INSPECTIONS. I'M KIND OF AUTOMATICALLY AND I THINK JUST KIND OF THE SUMMARIZE . I THINK THE ISSUE IS JUST THAT IT'S WHEN THERE'S NOT. A REASON TO, UM UM. REASON TO TRIGGER THE INTERNAL INSPECTION THAT SO, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAD A FEW JUST SIGNED UP FOR THE REGISTRY THAN THAT YOU AUTOMATICALLY THAN WE'RE GIVING CONSENT TO HAVE THE INTERNAL INSPECTIONS. YOU KNOW, THE COURTS, UM I FEEL LIKE THE COURTS DIDN'T UPHOLD THAT IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS, AND PROBABLY WOULDN'T HOLD IT HERE, EITHER. SO THESE ARE AS I SEE IT . I MEAN, I WOULD RATHER HAVE IT ORIGINAL WAY. BUT GIVEN THE FACT THAT THE, UM THE COURTS HAVE RULED ON HIS THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO BE UNDER COMPLIANCE AND MAKE IT LESS LIKELY THAT SOMEONE SUES US. AND HOLDS UP TO THE SYSTEM, BUT OTHERWISE I THINK IT'S PRETTY GOOD SYSTEM. I THINK WE GOT A LOT OF GOOD THINGS, WHICH WE HAD THESE AS WELL. BUT THE COURTS, UM, MADE THE DECISION. CAN I UM. SO I JUST HAD MY QUESTION CULTURES. UM SO WHEN JUST FOR A PRIME EXAMPLE, LET'S SAY YOU'RE RIGHT. HOW DO WE HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE, THOUGH ? THAT'S THE QUESTION HER BECAUSE HOW CAN WE HOLD PRIVATE LANDLORDS ACCOUNTABLE WHEN WE CAN'T EVEN HOLD? L M H A ACCOUNTABLE SO ARE THERE ANY PARAMETERS THAT WE CAN YOU KNOW? ARE THERE ANY PARAMETERS THAT WE CAN ADD IMPLEMENT? OR THINGS LIKE THAT? BECAUSE, UM YOU KNOW IT. WE CAN'T ASK SOMETHING OR SOMEONE ELSE THAT WE'RE NOT WILLING TO DO, AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW. SO, UM I THINK THAT'S A OH, I'M SORRY. NO, GO AHEAD. AND I'M SHARING MY GOOD GO AHEAD, COUNSELOR. I MEAN, I THINK THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. YOU KNOW UM AND I WOULD SUPPORT YOU IF YOU WANT TO DO THE RESEARCH ABOUT HOW WE CAN HOLD CITY. UM THOSE FOLKS WHO RUN OUR CITY OWNED PROPERTIES MORE ACCOUNTABLE. UM AND IF THERE IS A LEGISLATIVE WAIT TO DO THAT, AS OPPOSED TO THE MINISTRATIONS WAY THROUGH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. IF THERE'S A LEGISLATIVE WAY TO DO THAT, I WOULD I WOULD SUPPORT THAT. I HAVE NOT RESEARCHED THAT. DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS. DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT WOULD WHERE THAT WOULD BE INSERTED. THAT WOULD TAKE SOME RESEARCH TO DO. IT'S A SEPARATE. IT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE. IT'S AN IMPORTANT ISSUE, BUT IT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE AND ONE THAT WOULD TAKE SOME RESEARCH. SO HAPPY TO I WANT TO TAKE THAT ONE UP WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. HAPPY TO SUPPORT YOU WHEN YOU COME BACK WITH WHAT THE SOLUTION IS. I DON'T HAVE THAT ONE, THOUGH. THANK YOU, UM COUNTY ATTORNEY JASON FOWLER LIKE TO KNOW HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD ON THE SUGGESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE BY MY COLLEAGUES AND MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO ADDRESS THE NEGLECT FROM SOME OF THE PUBLIC HOUSING ENTITIES. CAN YOU GIVE AN OPINION ON THAT? PLEASE? THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. COUNCIL MEMBER OF PURPOSE PURPOSE. I'M HAPPY TO TAKE IT. BRIEFLY. WE ARE PREEMPTED AS A LOCAL GOVERNMENT FROM LEGISLATING IN THE AREA. OF . FEDERAL HOUSING AUTHORITY PROGRAMS. THAT PREEMPTION IS SET
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OUT AND FEDERAL REGULATIONS AND LAW WE. ARE LIMITED AND THAT RELATIONSHIP BOTH THROUGH THOSE PREEMPTIONS. AND THROUGH THE CONTRACTS BETWEEN THE LOUISVILLE METRO HOUSING AUTHORITY IN THE FUNDING THAT THEY RECEIVED FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. WE ARE ABLE. TO EFFECTUATE. THIS LEGISLATION. WHICH SEEKS TO HOLD LOCAL ACTORS ACCOUNTABLE. IT'S. IT'S TWO SEPARATE ISSUES AS COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKWELL HAD PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS VOTE. AND I WOULD THINK, UM, IF LAW, UM PREVAILS THAT WE COULD PROBABLY REVISIT THIS AT ANOTHER TIME. OTHER QUESTIONS. AGAIN THIS CALLS FOR A REAL CALL VOTE. THE CORONER'S OFFICE. POLICE REPORT. MUSIC YES. THE CORRECT WORD COUNCIL COUNCILMAN VINCENT KING, YOU RESTATE EUROPE'S TENSION AGAIN, PLEASE RENTAL PROPERTY AND THAT LOOKS LIKE THAT BE BIASED. TOWARDS THE ORDINANCE, SO I WANT TO ABSTAIN.
THANK YOU, SIR. REMEMBER AG RISON? RECORD MUSIC. YES, PLEASE.
SYSTEM. JUST. ACTUALLY. YES. SIX. YES VOTES. SEVEN YEARS AGO. SORRY. AND ONE OF THE STENCIL.
YES, WE'RE GOING TO OUR BUSINESS. NO FURTHER. LEGISLATION. THANK YOU ALL. THIS
[Adjournment Note: Agendas are followed at the discretion of the Chair. While an item may be listed, it does not mean all items will be heard and/or acted upon by the Committee.]
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