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EXCUSE ME. I HATE TO INTERRUPT THIS CONVERSATION. WE NEED TO PROCEED WITH MEETING TODAY. UH[Call to Order]
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WE DO NOT HAVE ANY LEGISLATION. UM TODAY. BUT WE ARE HAVING A DISCUSSION. SO WE DO NOT NEED A QUORUM. BUT I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND LET THE CLERK'S OFFICE READ THE DISCLAIMER BEFORE WE PROCEED WITH OUR DISCUSSION. THIS MEETING IS BEING HELD PURSUANT TO KRS 61.826 COUNCIL. RULE FIVE A. THANK YOU. LET ME ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAVE BEEN JOINED BY COUNCILMAN BRENT DICKERSON. SO TODAY WE HAVE OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, MR ROBERT CURSED ORFORD. HE'S JOINED BY SOME OF
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HIS STAFF, MR MUELLER AND MISS ZINC. AND TODAY WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING WRECKING AND DEMOLITION PERMITS. UM THERE'S SOME UNANSWERED QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE, AND I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA IF YOU ALL COME AND SPEAK PUBLICLY SO THAT WE CAN HAVE ALL THE RIGHT ANSWERS WHEN WE SEE BUILDINGS, UM WOULD SCIENCE STABLE TO BE DEMOLISHED OR TORN DOWN? WHAT HAPPENED? WHAT HAVE YOU SO I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS BEING HERE. THANK YOU. ROBERT COOK STORE FOR THE DIRECTOR OF CODES AND REGULATIONS, NOT PUBLIC WORKS. I'M SORRY. I KNOW IT'S PUBLIC WORKS, BUT I AM SO SORRY. WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME? CODE ENFORCEMENT? PUBLIC WORKS IS ALWAYS ON MY MIND. THANK YOU UNDER CLARIFY THAT PEOPLE WATCHING, UH. I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE MY STAFF OVER. UH CAN I CAN I SAY SOMETHING, MR KERR STRAW FOR REALLY DOESN'T NEED TO BE HERE THE ENTIRE TIME. HE'S GOT SOME OTHER THINGS ON HIS AGENDA TODAY, SO IF HE CAN JUST GO THROUGH HIS SPILL, AND YOU'RE GOOD, I'M YOU SURE I'M GOOD. IT'S LATER SO I'M OKAY. OKAY, GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR BEING AWARE OF MY TIME AND WORKING WITH ME. UH I WANT TO INTRODUCE SHERRY THINK. OUR PLAN REVIEW SUPERVISOR IN OUR OFFICE, OUR DIVISION OF CONSTRUCTION REVIEW IN CODES AND REGS, AND GARY MULLER, EXECUTIVE ADMINISTRATOR OF CONSTRUCTION REVIEW SHARE IF YOU WANT TO WALK UP TO THE PRESENTATION. AND GARY IF YOU WANT TO SET UP THERE NEXT TO IT, BECAUSE I ASSUME WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS HERE. BUT OUR CONSTRUCTION REVIEWED DIVISION. ISSUES THE WRECKING CONTRACTOR LICENSES FOR THE CONTRACTORS. THE ORDINANCE CHAPTER LMC 01 50 IS THE BUILDING CODE ORDINANCE, AND IT HAS REQUIREMENTS FOR CONTRACTORS , AND THERE'S DIFFERENT TYPES OF WRECKING CONTRACTORS, DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATIONS, BOND REQUIREMENTS AND OTHER STUFF. AND THEN THE WRECKING PERMIT APPLICATIONS. THE SAME DIVISION HANDLES ALL THE BUILDING PERMITS. ELECTRICAL PERMITS. DOES THE CONSTRUCTION REVIEW PROCESS AND OUR DIVISION? CODES AND REGS ARE BUILDING PERMIT. WE'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT TYPICALLY REVIEWS THESE. WE TAKE THE APPLICATION, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER AGENCIES THAT HAVE REVIEW RIGHTS THAT WE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY SIGN OFF FOR AWARE OF THINGS REQUIREMENTS ON SAME AS BUILDING PERMITS THAT IT GOES TO DIFFERENT AGENCIES, AND WE'LL COVER THOSE IN THIS PRESENTATION. SO RIGHT NOW I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO THE SHERRY. SHE PUT TOGETHER POWERPOINT PRESENTATION JUST KIND OF ON THE GENERAL BASICS OF THE APPLICATION, AND THEN WE CAN COVER THOSE AND THEN WE CAN OPEN UP FOR AND TRY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT WE CAN ANSWER WITH, THEN HAD TO REFER TO IF YOU HAVE DEEP INTO SOME OF THE OTHER AGENCIES ON THEIR REVIEWS, I CAN SPEAK GENERALLY ON THEM, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF I'LL BE ABLE TO ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ON THEM. IT'S TIED TO THEIR REVIEWS. THANK YOU. CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? ALL RIGHT. PICKING UP ON THE MIC. OKAY, GREAT. SO SURE YOU THINK PLAN REVIEW SUPERVISOR . SO UM, THAT YOU ORDINANCES THAT REALLY SPEAKS TO WRECKING PERMITS IS LMC. OH EXCUSE ME. MISSING KEYS TALKING TO MIKE, PLEASE. OKAY? MAKE SURE RIGHT IN THERE FOR YOU. IS THAT BETTER? OKAY? SO THE TWO ORDINANCES THAT[00:25:05]
REALLY APPLY TO THE WRECKING PERMIT PROCESS IS THERE GOING TO BE 1, 50.006 AND 1 50.110110. IS THE ONE THAT IS ABOUT HISTORIC BUILDINGS IN PARTICULAR. SO 006 IS THE GENERAL WRECKING PERMIT PROCESS AND THEN 110 SPEAKS TO WHAT'S REQUIRED WHEN A BUILDING IS A CERTAIN AGE OR WHETHER IT'S UM ON THE HISTORIC REGISTER OR CONSIDERED A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE. AS PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO WHO CAN SUBMIT A WRECKING PERMIT FOR AN APPLICATION? HOMEOWNERS CAN AND THEY CAN ONLY SUBMIT PERMIT APPLICATIONS FOR RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES THAT MEET THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA, AND THEY ALSO HAVE TO PROVIDE A $500 CASH BOND. THE STRUCTURE IS NOT MORE THAN ONE STORY AND HEIGHT OR 25 FT. AND HEIGHT STRUCTURE IS NOT MORE THAN 1500 SQUARE FEET. AND THAT THE DEMOLITION OF THE BUILDING WILL BE WITHIN 60 DAYS FROM THE DATE OF THE ISSUANCE OF THE PERMIT. INCLUDING THE REQUIRED, UM, CLEARING, CLEARING UP ALL THE MATERIAL ALL THE DEBRIS, UM, RESTORING THE GRADE OF THE PROPERTY AND, UH, RESTORATION AND SEATING TO PREVENT EROSION. UM, METRO LICENSE WRECKING CONTRACTORS CAN ALSO PULL WRECKING PERMITS. UM WHEN HOMEOWNERS, NOT THE PERSON REMOVING THE STRUCTURE OR THE STRUCTURE EXCEEDS THE STANDARDS ABOVE, UM. A LICENSED CONTRACTOR HAS TO DO THAT WORK. ACQUIRING A WRECKING PERMIT IN A NON EMERGENCY SITUATION IS A MULTI STEP PROCESS. UM, FIRST, APPLICANTS HAVE TO SUBMIT A COMPLETE APPLICATION THAT INCLUDES PHOTOS OF STRUCTURES OF PHOTOS WITH THE INCLUDING THAT NOTICE OF INTENTION DEMOLISHED SIGN. AND THEY PROVIDE WRITTEN VERIFICATION FROM THE UTILITY PROVIDERS THAT ALL THE UTILITIES HAVE BEEN DISCONNECTED FROM THE STRUCTURE THEY INTEND TO WRECK.THE APPLICATION. WE ROUTE TO THE REVIEW AGENCIES AND THE BUILDING PLAN REVIEW. WE CONFIRM THE SIZE AND THE AGE OF THE STRUCTURE. WE . REVIEW ALL THE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE SUBMITTED TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE COMPLIANT WITH THE ORDINANCES AND WE REQUEST DOCUMENTS AS NECESSARY. UM METROPOLITAN SEWER DISTRICT WILL PHYSICALLY INSPECT THAT SEWER CONNECTION TO MAKE SURE THAT IT HAS BEEN DISCONNECTED FROM THE STRUCTURE THAT'S PROPOSED TO BE DEMOLISHED. AND THAT THE SEWER CONNECTION HAS BEEN KEPT, AND THAT'S TO PREVENT DIVERSION AND SOILS TO GETTING INTO THE SEWER SYSTEM. THE URBAN DESIGN TEAM DETERMINES IF THE BUILDING IS CONSIDERED A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE AND WHETHER A 30 DAY NOTICE IS REQUIRED. AND THEN AIR POLLUTION CONTROL CONTROL DISTRICT CONFIRMS THAT ENVIRONMENTAL REQUIREMENTS ARE MET FOR COMMERCIAL APPLICATIONS.
SO FOR A WRECKING APPLICATION TO BE CONSIDERED COMPLETE, IT NEEDS TO INCLUDE THE STREET ADDRESS OF THE SUBJECT BUILDING AND THE DESCRIPTION OF THE WORK THAT'S GOING TO BE UNDERTAKEN. IT SHOULD INCLUDE THE AGE OF THE BUILDING THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING AND THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING EITHER IN PHYSICAL BUT HEIGHT OR IN THE NUMBER OF STORIES. IT SHOULD ALSO INCLUDE THE THEIR ESTIMATE OF THE COST OF THE WORK. THE CONTRACTOR INFORMATION, INCLUDING THEIR VALID WRECKING CONTRACTOR LICENSE. AND THE PROPERTY OWNER INFORMATION, INCLUDING AN AFFIDAVIT SIGNED BY THE HOMEOWNER THAT THEY'RE TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE WORK. UM, PHOTOGRAPHS OF ALL FOUR SIDES THE BUILDING, INCLUDING THE NOTICE OF INTENT TO DEMOLISH ON THAT SIDE NEEDS TO BE VISIBLE FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY. THEN SIGNATURES FROM THE OWNER OR THE AGENT. ONCE AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO BE COMPLETE, WE CREATE A RECORD NUMBER. THE PLENARY VIEW SUPERVISOR ACCEPTS THE APPLICATION AND SCIENCE REVIEWS TO, UM BUILDING MSD. THE URBAN DESIGN TEAM AND AIR POLLUTION CONTROL DISTRICT. UM IN OUR OFFICE. THE PLAN REVIEWER CONFIRMS THAT THE ADDRESS OWNER AND CONTRACTOR INFORMATION IS ACCURATE. THEY CONFIRMED THAT THE CONTRACTOR HAS A CURRENT WRECKING LICENSE. AND THAT THE TYPE OF APPLICATION THAT THEY HAVE APPLIED FOR IS THE CORRECT TYPE SO DEPENDENT. AND AT THE END OF THE LAST LIGHT OF THIS PRESENTATION, WE DEFINE WHAT THE A B AND C WRECKING PERMIT TYPES ARE. OUR PLAN REVIEW CONFIRMS THAT THEY PROVIDED AND SUBMITTED ALL THE RECOMMENDED REQUIRED DOCUMENTS AND GETTING ASSIGNED OSTROM UTILITIES. AND WE CONFIRM THAT THE OTHER AGENCIES HAVE ALSO APPROVED THEIR REVIEWS, AND ULTIMATELY, WE RELEASED THE APPLICATION FOR PAYMENT OF FEES AND TO BE ISSUED. METROPOLITAN SEWER DISTRICT SENDS AN INSPECTOR TO PHYSICALLY INSPECT THAT SEWER AT THE LOCATION TO DETERMINE THAT THE CONNECTION IS DISCONNECTED AND THAT THE SEWERS KEPT UM, THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE SENDING AN INSPECTOR PHYSICALLY EXCUSE ME TO THE SITE THAT USUALLY TAKES 2 TO 3 BUSINESS DAYS. THE URBAN DESIGN TEAM. THEY HAVE 14 DAYS FROM THE DATE OF THE APPLICATION SUBMITTAL TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THAT BUILDING IS. UM, CONTRIBUTING.
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AND THAT'S PART OF THE HISTORIC ORDINANCE. UM, IT'S IF THE URBAN DESIGN ADMINISTRATOR DETERMINES THAT THE BUILDING IS CONTRIBUTING. THEN THEY WILL PLACE A 30 DAY. HOLD TO ALLOW, UM POTENTIAL PETITIONS TO DESIGNATE THE BUILDING AS A LOCAL LANDMARK. IF THERE'S NO PETITION, THEN THE LANDMARK FOR THAT LOOK LANDMARK DESIGNATION THAN THE PERMIT CAN BE ISSUED ONCE A 30 DAY PERIOD EXPIRES, AND THEY'VE SUBMITTED ALL THE REQUIRED DOCUMENTS AND APPROVALS. A B C D REVIEW REQUIRES, UM THEY DO THE REVIEW FOR ASBESTOS ABATEMENT AND OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL KINDS OF PROJECTS. THE ADDITIONAL CRITERIA PER, UM 1 50.1 10. FOR PARAGRAPH D AND THE RECORD PERMIT FOR AN HISTORIC BUILDING CANNOT BE ISSUED WITHOUT AN APPROVED REDEVELOPMENT PLAN. EXCUSE ME, MA'AM, CAN WE EAT GOING BACK? YEAH. RIGHT HERE, WHERE IT SAYS THE AGENCY EVALUATES FOR ASBESTOS COMPLIANCE. UM IT'S IT. IS THERE ANYTHING ON FILE THAT CONFIRMS THAT SO ON. ON A P. C D S WEBSITE. THEY SPEAK TO WHAT? THAT ABOUT ASBESTOS ABATEMENT PROCESS LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT STEPS ARE REQUIRED TO BE TAKEN AND WHAT'S MEASURES ARE REQUIRED. UM THAT'S THERE. SO THAT'S IT. THAT'S WHAT SO WE, UM, WE MARKED THE REVIEW AND LET THEM KNOW THAT THERE'S AN APPLICATION FOR THIS ADDRESS, AND THEY WORK WITH THAT CONTRACT AND MAKE SURE THEY'VE COMPLIED WITH THOSE REQUIREMENTS. BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF OLD BUILDINGS AROUND THE CITY. THAT WERE BUILT IN THE EARLY 19 HUNDREDS. AND I'M SURE YOU KNOW, DURING THAT TIME ASBESTOS WILL STILL BEING USED. I THINK IT'S BEST AS ONE OF THE STOP USING ASBESTOS IN THE SEVENTIES AND EIGHTIES. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF BUILDINGS THAT HAS ASBESTOS IN THEIR ROUND PLUMBING. H H BACK, AND I JUST DON'T THINK, UM. THAT ASBESTOS IS BEING REMOVED AND SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS BEEN TORN DOWN AROUND HERE. SO HOW CAN WE CONFIRM THAT? I KNOW THAT YOU SAY YOU GIVE THAT PIECE TO A PC. SEE THEM. B. BUT ARE THEY REQUIRING? UH THE OWNER THAT THAT HAS TO PERMIT ON FILE? ARE THEY REQUIRING THEM TO CONFIRM OUR APPROVED THAT THEY FOLLOWED THE PROPER. PROPER CHANNELS AND HAVING THE BUILDING DEVALUATED FOR ASBESTOS AND HAVING THE ASBESTOS. ABATED. GARY MUELLER AND EXECUTIVE ADMINISTRATOR BECAUSE IN OR EGGS INSTRUCTIONAL REVIEW. UM WE RELY ON A PCD. UM IN A CELLAR. IN OUR WORKFLOW. THERE IS A LINE ITEM SPECIFICALLY FOR THEM TO CLICK. WE ASSIGN IT TO THEM. AND WE CANNOT ISSUE ANYTHING UNTIL THEY HAVE GONE INTO THAT RECORD AND HIT APPROVED. SO WHEN THEY CLICK THAT APPROVAL TO US, THEY HAVE COMPLIED WITH EVERYTHING THAT A PCD HAS REQUIRED. THEY HAVE FULL AUTHORITY ON THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE REQUIREMENTS WITH THAT, OTHER THAN WE DON'T ISSUE THE PERMIT UNLESS THEY CLICK THAT BUTTON IN A CELLAR, SO WE NEED TO FALL. I NEED TO FOLLOW UP WITH WITH AP. YES, SEE A B C D THE WHATEVER POLLUTION BOARD. AND SEE WHAT THEIR PROCESS IS. FOR DETERMINING OR MAKING SURE THAT THESE, UH PEOPLE THAT ARE DEMOLISHING THESE BUILDINGS IF THEY ARE REMOVING ASBESTOS PRIOR TO BECAUSE I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S HAPPENING, AND YOU KNOW, WE JUST HAD THERE WAS A STRUCTURE JUST DEMOLISHED LIKE OVER A MONTH AGO IN DISTRICT FIBER OLD OLD COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE, AND I KNOW PROBABLY HAD ASBESTOS IN IT. AND SO ONCE YOU TEAR DOWN THIS BUILDING AND YOU DISTURBED THE ASBESTOS. SO IS FLOATING ALL IN THE AIR IN THAT AREA, AND YOU KNOW IT TAKES A LONG TIME FOR THOSE LITTLE FIBERS, FAMILIES SETTLED DOWN. MM HMM. AND YOU KNOW IF THAT BUILDING WAS TORE DOWN ON A DRY DAY, AND WE DIDN'T SEE ANY RAIN FOR A WHILE, IT'S STILL FLOATING IN THE AIR. SO THAT'S DANGEROUS. SO UM, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THAT ADDRESS. UH, IT'S UH I'LL GIVE IT TO YOU AFTERWARDS. OKAY? BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING PUBLICLY, BUT IF YOU COULD FOLLOW UP WITH THEM TO SEE[00:35:04]
IF THEY HAVE A WRITTEN PROTOCOL OR DO YOU WANT ME TO DO IT AND FOLLOW UP WITH THEM, BUT I WANT TO KNOW THE HAPPY WE WILL BE HAPPY TO, UH, INQUIRE ON THAT ASPECT. NEED THE ADDRESS? OKAY, UH, THERE'S SEVERAL WAYS TO MITIGATE THE ASBESTOS REMOVAL OR WHEN THE DEMOLITIONS OCCURRING.UM. WHAT WE DON'T RECEIVE IS IN A CELLAR. WE DON'T GET ANY DOCUMENTATIONS FROM ANY OF THE FROM A PCD AS SAYING. HERE'S WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO, AND HERE'S THEIR MITIGATION OR HERE'S HOW THEY TREATED IT. THAT DOES NOT GET PUT INTO OUR RECORDS. I'M ASSUMING THEY HAVE THEIR OWN TRACKING SYSTEM PRODUCT, BUT WE'LL BE HAPPY TO INQUIRE ON THAT. YES, MA'AM. AND WE DID. THEY DO NOT REQUIRE IT FOR ANY RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE THAT'S DEMOLISHED ONLY COMMERCIAL. WOW. YOU KNOW? WELL, YOU KNOW THIS THAT'S REALLY RISKY. UM LIKE I SAID. WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WERE BUILT 100 PLUS YEARS AGO, SO THAT'S BESTEST WAS THE WAY TO GO BACK THEN. THANK YOU. YES SIR. GERMAN, UH, I DO KNOW FROM PAST EXPERIENCE, AND I'M JUST BRIEFLY , TYPICALLY ON A COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE WHEN THEY APPLY IN HPC D. THEY DO IN ASBESTOS SURVEY CAME BACK AND THEN, UM, IF THERE IS ASBESTOS IDENTIFIED. THEY WOULD HAVE HER BESTEST REMOVAL COMPANY. REMOVE IT AND THEY SUBMIT THAT THAT IT'S BEEN REMOVED. BUT I WOULDN'T I WOULDN'T LET A B C D. IT'S THEIR PROCESS AND THEY HANDLE IT. THREE P A GUIDELINES. SO, UH, THEY THEY'RE THE ONES THAT HANDLE THAT SO I WOULD LET THEM SPEAK IT BUT I KNOW THEY'RE THEY'RE LOOKING AT THOSE AND GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS AND THEY HAVE AN APPLICATION. AND YOU KNOW, HAVE A SEPARATE PROCESS THAN THAN OURS. BUT THERE ARE PART OF THAT REVIEW.
OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SHALL WE GO BACK TO THE TO THE NEXT SLIDE? YOU CAN. YOU CAN PROCEED. OKAY, SO WE SPOKE ABOUT THE HISTORIC WRECKING PERMITS CAN BE ISSUED WITHOUT THE APPROVED REDEVELOPMENT PLAN IN THE ABSENCE OF REDEVELOPMENT, I HAVE I HAVE A QUESTION PERTAINING TO THAT. ACTUALLY I THINK MY COLLEAGUE MAY HAVE A QUESTION PERTAINING TO THAT.
THANK YOU. SONIA CAN YOU BRING THOSE TO SCREEN FOR ME? UP THERE. SO, UM, ARE. EITHER OF YOU GUYS FAMILIAR WITH ANY OF THESE FORMS. OR CAN YOU LOOKS LIKE A TEMPLATE FOR A DEED? RESTRICTION? YES. SO I THINK IT'S GOT FRONT BACK, CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME FOR MARK IN SITU INTS. THE PROCESS. FOR THIS APPLICATION WEST IN PLACE, AND CAN I GO FROM THERE? SO UM I CAN ALWAYS SPEAK FROM MY EXPERIENCE FROM 2019 TILL NOW, SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE. 1 50.1 10 WAS ENACTED IN 2019, WHICH ADDED THIS HISTORIC PIECE TO IT. SO PART OF WHAT THE PROCESS IS, IS THAT IF SOMEONE APPLIES FOR WRECKING PERMIT, AND THE BUILDING IS DESIGNATED CONTRIBUTING, OR IT'S CONSIDERED TO BE HISTORIC UNDER THE ORDINANCE. IF THE APPLICANT HAS NOT ALREADY MADE PROVISION FOR WHAT THEY WANT, HOW THEY WANT TO REDEVELOP THE SITE. THEY HAVE NOT DONE A DEVELOPMENT PLAN OR PROVIDED UM, CONSTRUCTION PLANS FOR WHAT THEY INTEND TO REBUILD.
THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES THAT WE COLLECT THIS DATA RESTRICTIONS, SO IF THEY CAN'T SAY HOW THEY INTEND TO REDEVELOP IT. THIS DATA RESTRICTION REQUIRES THAT THEY MAY NOT REDEVELOP IT FOR TWO YEARS FROM THE DATE THAT THAT DOCUMENT IS RECORDED THAT THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE AND IF I MAY, UM, THAT DOCUMENT IT WAS CREATED AND IS. RECEIVED FROM THE APPLICANT BY THE PLANNING DESIGN SERVICES URBAN DESIGN SECTION. NOT BY OUR OFFICE. OKAY, SO. THE CRITERIA THAT COMES FROM YOU, ALTHOUGH RIGHT. IT COMES FROM THE ORGANS 150. IT'S ENFORCED BY THE PLANNING, DESIGN SERVICES. URBAN DESIGN, FOLKS. SO YOU SAID IT COMES FROM THE ORDINANCE. YOU SAID 151 50.110. SO UM, I JUST WANT TO BE JUST KIND OF WANT TO OUTLINE IT ONE MORE TIME. SO EVEN IF IT'S SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY, RIGHT? I JUST WANT TO USE MY CELLPHONE EXAMPLE. PROPERTY UM WHAT IS
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HISTORIC? WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, UM. AH, CANNOT DO WHAT I WANT TO DO WITH MY OWN PROPERTY, AND THERE, THERE'S RESTRICTIONS ON IT. NO LEAN NO BEHIND HIM TAXES. IT'S JUST UNTIL I MAKE A DECISION ON WHAT I WANT TO DO WITH IT. IT HAS RESTRICTIONS ON IT. IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? UNLESS WAIVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. YES AND THAT IS A RESTRICTION BY THE PANIC DESIGN SERVICES WITH THAT DEED RESTRICTION. OKAY SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO IN FRONT OF PLANNING AND ZONING TO GET THAT RESTRICTED. TO HAVE IT. WAIT WAIT. YES, MA'AM. SO WHAT WOULD BE SOME OF THE REASONS THAT YOU WOULD NEED FOR IT TO BE WEIGHED THAT WOULD BE A PLANNING AND DESIGN SERVICES QUESTION. WE DON'T ENFORCE THAT REQUIREMENT. WE DON'T WE DON'T. WE'RE NOT THE GATEKEEPER OF THAT LEAD RESTRICTION. WE JUST CAN'T ISSUE THE PERMIT FOR DEMOLITION UNTIL PLAYING THE URBAN DESIGN FOLKS TO CLICK THE BUTTON SAYING THEY HAVE THAT DEED RESTRICTION. OKAY SO MY I GOT ANOTHER PIECE TO THAT. SO I GET THE DEMOLITION DONE, RIGHT. LET'S SAY THAT'S OUT OF THE WAY. UM AND THEN I WANT TO REBUILD, RIGHT. UM WHAT WOULD. PREVENT ME FROM BEING ABLE TO REBUILD. IT'S PRIOR TO THE TWO YEAR TIMEFRAME. PLANNING DESIGN IS GOING TO WAVE THE FLAG AND SAY NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUSH UP APPROVAL ON IN A CELLAR. BECAUSE YOU HAVE THIS DEED RESTRICTION, AND THEN THEY WILL INFORM THE APPLICANT THAT YOU CAN ASK FOR A LABOR BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AND I DON'T KNOW THE CRITERIA FOR THE WAIVERS. I'M SORRY, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT OUR SHOP. OKAY, SO, BASICALLY, UM. YOUR PROPERTY. IT'S BEING DICTATED BY PLANNING THE ZONING IF IT'S NOT WITHIN A TWO YEAR SPAN BECAUSE THE FACT HAS BEEN MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON THE BUILDING HOT TARGET. I'M NOT . I DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT'S CORRECT. SO IF YOU'RE SAYING THAT THIS 1 50.11 OR ONE THAT DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE CHANGED, BECAUSE IF IT'S MY BUILDING, IF I WANTED TO SIT THERE FOR 10 YEARS, AND I HAVEN'T DECIDED WHAT I WANTED ON IT AS LONG AS I DON'T HAVE ANY LEANS AND FANS HEKKING ABOARD. TELL ME, I MAY NOT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DECIDE SO I'M JUST ONE OF LIKE AT FIRST. LIKE WHAT IS WHO MADE THESE RULES UP LIKE I MEAN, I'M LOST ABOUT THIS COUNCILWOMAN. THIS ORDINANCE WAS PASSED A FEW YEARS BACK. I THINK YOU ALL VOTED ON A REVISION TO THIS ON THURSDAY. YES. AH! OF THIS ON THIS SECTION. AH! SO I HAVEN'T SEEN THE FINAL DRAFT CAUGHT. SOME OF THE DISCUSSION LOOKED AT IT THE OTHER DAY, JUST RESEARCHING BUT I THOUGHT THE RESTRICTION WAS STILL THERE. BUT I MEAN, THIS IS JUST RESTRICTING . THIS WAS PUT IN PLACE TRYING TO HAVE FOLKS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF A BUILDING THAT QUALIFIED HISTORIC STRUCTURE AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE A DEVELOPMENT PLAN PLANNING ON PUTTING SOMETHING BACK. IF THEY DIDN'T KNOW AT THAT TIME, AND THEY WANTED TO DEMOLISH A STRUCTURE THAT WAS CONTRIBUTING. THIS WAS THERE IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE THAT THEY WERE GOING TO THIS RESTRICTION WAS THERE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE NOT TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE IT DOWN? IF THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE END USE WAS GOING TO BE, SO THAT WAS THE INTENT OF THAT, SO IT'S A TWO YEAR RESTRICTION RESTRICTION ON IT. AND THEN THERE WAS A IF SOMEONE CAME BACK IN AND SUBMITTED A DEVELOPMENT PLAN, OR SOMEONE SOLD THE PROPERTY AND SOMEBODY CAME IN, I THINK IT WAS GOING BACK AT THAT TIME TO PLANNING. I THINK THE CHANGE WAS MAYBE TAKING IT TO THE LANDMARKS TO BENEFIT THE AREA. IT WAS A GOOD USE. THERE WAS A GOOD DEVELOPMENT. THERE WAS A WAY TO THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO WAIT THAT TWO YEARS IF THEY PRESENTED A PLAN, AND IT WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS OF REVIEW OF COMMUNITY REVIEW AND WAS APPROVED THE WAIVER THAT WAS KIND OF AN EXCEPTION TO THAT. TO GET OUT OF THAT TWO YEAR RESTRICTION. THERE WAS A PROCESS. OKAY UM, SO IS IT OFFERED TO? I GOT A COUPLE OF CALLS FROM SOME SOME. SELF SUSTAINABLE BUSINESS OWNERS IN THE WEST END WHO ALREADY HAVE SUSTAINABLE BUSINESSES THAT ARE REALLY THRIVING IN THE WEST END WHO OWNED THE PROPERTY. UM WHO OWNS THE PIECE OF PROPERTY AT 34 TO WEST BROADWAY. UM AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE FOR YOU TO LOOK INTO WHY HE IS BEING GIVING A ISSUE. ON NOT THE DEMOLITION, BUT WHY HE'S NOT BEING ABLE TO REBUILD. SO IF YOU CAN HELP ME HELP HIM IN THAT PROCESS. UM, SOMETIMES IT'S JUST LACK OF KNOWLEDGE. SO UM, THAT'S JUST ONE. I'M GONNA ASK THE STIPULATION, UH, THAT HE[00:45:06]
CAN'T BUILD. IS IT BECAUSE HE DOESN'T HAVE A REDEVELOPMENT PLAN? CORRECT OKAY, SO IF YOU PRESENT ONE OF 34 02 UM. I'M NOT FOR 1534 15. WE HAVE A, UH APPLICATION FOR WRECKING. YEAH IT IS IN THERE IS A NOTE FROM URBAN DESIGN. THAT THEY'RE WAITING FOR THE DEED RESTRICTION TO BE SIGNED. OKAY THEY'RE AGREEING TO NOT TO DO ANYTHING FOR TWO YEARS BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE A DEVELOPED PLAN AT THIS TIME, BUT THEY HAVE NOT PROVIDED THAT TO THEM YET. AND THERE'S ALSO A 30 DAY. HOLD PERIOD. SO AS. WELL, I THINK THAT IF I CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THEY DIDN'T WANT TO REALLY SAND THE DEED FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY WASN'T SURE EXACTLY . THEY YOU KNOW, LIKE HER. HE GOES SANDY'S YOU HEAR THEY NEEDED MORE INFORMATION ABOUT DIDN'T UNDERSTAND. UNDERSTAND IT. YEAH AND SO WHAT? WHAT IS SAYING BECAUSE IT IS A HISTORICAL PROPERTY HISTORICAL PROPERTY. UM HE HAS TO HAVE A REDEVELOPMENT PLAN PRESENTED WITH THIS APPLICATION RIGHT URBAN DESIGN PLAYING DESIGN SERVICES. HE CAN'T THE OWNER CAN REQUEST A LABOR OF THAT REQUIREMENT. UM AND THAT WAS ON THAT FORM THAT YOU HAD UP ON THE SCREEN HERE A SECOND AGO. IT WAS IT WAS PARAGRAPHS CAN REQUEST A WAIVER FROM THAT BORN. SURE CAME OKAY, PRESENT THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN, BUT I THINK THE WAIVER THE WAIVER WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A PROPOSAL FOR DEVELOPMENT. ALLOW SOMEBODY TO BUILD SOMETHING BACK , BUT THEN THAT TIMEFRAME BUT I MEAN UM. WE CAN HAVE AH, YOU KNOW, I CAN ARRANGE IF YOU GIVE ME THE PERSON'S NAME, WE CAN GO BACK IN. I MEAN, I'M I'M SURE WE CAN HAVE THEM TALK TO OKAY. URBAN DESIGN STAFF. YEAH I'M GONNA BECAUSE I THINK IT WAS JUST THE UNDERSTANDING WAS NOT THERE. UM AND HE'S LIKE I CAN'T REBUILD SO HE CAN HE CAN REBUILD AFTER TWO. TWO YEARS AFTER IT EXPIRES OR IF HE DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE THE BUILDING DOWN. WAIT UNTIL THEY HAD A PLAN TO REBUILD AND SMITH THAT AND GO TO THAT PROCESS, THEN IT CAN BE APPROVED. I THINK HE WANTED TO TAKE THE BUILDING DOWN NOW AND THEN GO AHEAD AND SUBMIT WHAT HE WANTED TO DO AND THEN START THE WORK. THE ORDINANCE. RIGHT SO HE CAN'T REBUILD. RIGHT THAT WITHOUT THAT RISK RESTRICTIONS COULD ALWAYS COME BACK AND SUBMIT THAT AND TRY TO GO THROUGH THAT WAIVER PROCESS. OKAY? BUT I CAN'T SAY THAT. YOU KNOW IF HE IF HE HAS SOMETHING IN MIND, THAT WOULD BE ORDINANCE 15. OH, THAT 110. YES MA'AM.YEAH CHAPTER 150. L M C 01 15 OUNCE IT WAS, UH, IT WAS AT THE COUNCIL, BUT IT WAS NO DISCUSSION. SO WE PROBABLY REALLY REALLY WASN'T BRIEFED ON IT MUCH. YEAH SO IT WAS, UH, MADONNA'S ON HER. MADONNA. DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THAT? GET YOU IF IT WAS UM. MARCUS PRESIDENT WINKLER'S ORDINANCE AND I DIDN'T HEAR YOUR QUESTION. I WAS JUST ASKING IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THAT LEGISLATION, UM THERE WAS NOT MUCH DISCUSSION ON IT IN THE PAST COUNCIL MEETINGS, SO OUR MEMORY DIDN'T COMMIT. HE WAS HURTING COMMITTEE. UM SIR. A COUPLE OF TIMES, MAYBE THREE TIMES. AND THEN THERE WAS AN AMENDMENT BY SUBSTITUTION OR NOT AN INVESTOR. THERE WERE SOME AMENDMENTS TO IT. UM AT ONE OF THE MEETINGS THAT I WASN'T AT, UM, BUT I DIDN'T I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WANT ME TO COVER ON IT. I JUST WANTED YOU TO SHARE ANYTHING WITH US THAT WE DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH AS FAR AS, UH, THE AMENDMENT. I CAN GIVE A MARKET IF HE IS I'M JUST GOING TO. I DON'T HAVE MY NOTES. OKAY DON'T WORRY. OKAY WE'LL GET IT. SORRY.
DIDN'T MEAN TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT. IT'S ALL RIGHT, BECAUSE YOU ALWAYS SO SHARP. I JUST DIDN'T CARRY ALL THOSE NOTES HOME WITH ME TODAY, OKAY? AND I FORGOT TO RECOGNIZE COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL. IN THE CHAMBERS TODAY. YOU CAN PROCEED. SO UM, ALMOST LIGHT SO, YEAH. SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE DEED RESTRICTION. AND THEN THE LAST PARAGRAPH OF THE ORDINANCE ALLOWS EXCEPTIONS FOR EMERGENCY SITUATIONS SITUATIONS. IF THE OR IF THERE'S A COURT ORDER UM TO RECORD BUILDING OR WHEN THE PROPOSED WRECKING HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE LANDMARK'S COMMITTEE. AND THEN THERE'S JUST
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SORT OF EXPLAINS THE TYPES OF WRECKING PERMITS. SO THERE'S THREE TYPES T TYPE A WRECKING PERMIT HAS TO BE DONE BY A LICENSED WRECKING CONTRACTOR. MAXIMUM TWO STORIES OR 35. FT.IN HEIGHT 3000 SQUARE FEET TOTAL. TYPE B WRECKING PERMIT ALSO REQUIRES LICENSED CONTRACTOR ESSENTIALLY ANY STRUCTURE THAT'S LARGER, SO TALLER, LARGER. UM TYPE C WRECKING PERMITS ARE HOMEOWNER PERMITS. UM, THEY'RE LIMITED. TWO BUILDINGS THAT ARE MAXIMUM ONE STORY IN HEIGHT, OR 25, FT AND A MAXIMUM OF 1500 SQUARE FEET. SO ANY BUILDINGS LARGER THAN THAT HAVE GOT TO BE WRECKED BY LICENSED WRECKING CONTRACTOR. AND I BELIEVE THAT'S OUR LAST SLIDE.
IS THERE ANY PARTICULAR SLIDE? YOU WANT ME TO GO BACK TO.
BUT YEAH, THIS IS THIS IS OUR LAST SLIDE. OKAY? THIS IS IT. THIS IS IT. EXCUSE ME. OKAY.
THANK YOU. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO. I DO JUST WANT TO SAY IT'S PROBABLY A GOOD CONVERSATION BECAUSE I SAW THE DEMOLITION LIST AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY HOUSES WHILE STANDING IN DISTRICT FIVE, BUT OH, MY WORD. MINE. SO FAR SO GOOD. OKAY WELL, THANK YOU ALL FOR WILL JUST WANT TO POINT OUT IT WASN'T 2018 WHEN THAT DEED RESTRICTION REQUIREMENTS WAS WAS PASSED AND PUT IN PLACE. AN F Y. FOR HISTORY ON IT. DO YOU KNOW? GLAD THAT WAS PROPOSED THAT LEGISLATION IT WAS. AS I REMEMBER THE INTENT WAS TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM JUST TAKING A HISTORIC STRUCTURE, GO AHEAD AND TEARING SOMETHING DOWN THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE BE SAVED AND REUSED WITHOUT A PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY. UH IF YOU TAKE IT DOWN, THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO SO I MEAN, THEY WERE JUST TRYING TO ENCOURAGE, UM YOU KNOW IT HAD TO HAVE A REDEVELOPMENT PLAN THERE. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE RESTRICTIONS IF SOMETHING WASN'T GOING TO THE PROCESS. THAT MAKES SENSE. PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO WITH THE PROPERTY, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE OKAY WITH IT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE PLANS. BUT IF THERE'S STRUCTURE NEEDED TO COME DOWN OR WAS DILAPIDATED, WOULD TAKE A LOT OF MONEY. SO I MEAN IT'S A PROCESS, BUT IT WAS IT WAS PASSED. WE'RE ENFORCING THE ORDINANCE. OKAY REQUIREMENT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING HERE AND I'LL GIVE YOU THAT ADDRESS. NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. THIS
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