Oct 19, 2023 Parks and Sustainability Commiittee

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TO ME.

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[Call to Order]

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[Roll Call]

[Pending Legislation]

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ALRIGHT IT'S A RESOLUTION SO WE CAN DO A VOICE VOTE ON IN FAVOR. SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED. ALRIGHT SO WE MIGHT NEED TO DO A ROLL CALL VOTE BECAUSE WE HAVE AN ABSTENTION. AND COULD YOU STATE THAT REASON FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? YEAH CURRENTLY HAVE THE M P A. I'M SORRY. MM P A, UH.

WITH THE COMMAND POST SITTING IN MY DISTRICT, DOING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF WORK ON HOUSE ON APPLEGATE LANE. AND OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION TO AVOID THE APPEARANCE OF IMPROPRIETY.

OR CONFLICT OF INTEREST. I AM GOING TO BE ABSTAINING FROM THE SPOKE THANK YOU SO MUCH. THE CLERK HAS OPENED THE VOTING. COUNCIL MEMBER MULVIHILL. YES. MR CHAIR. YOU HAVE, UM SIX YEARS VOTES AND ONE ABSTENTION. ALRIGHT. THIS WILL GO TO OLD BUSINESS ON THE NEXT COUNCIL AGENDA BECAUSE OF THE ABSTENTION . THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE WITH US.

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RECERTIFYING EXCELLENT TEAM OF PROFESSIONALS WHO HELP US GET OUR WORK DONE, AND I'D BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T MENTION THEM. SO THE DISTRICT IS A SPECIAL BODY, CORPORATE AND POLITICS ORGANIZED UNDER KRS CHAPTER, 77. WE'VE BEEN IN LOUISVILLE NOW FOR ALMOST 80 YEARS, AND WE PROCEED THE CLEAN AIR ACT. SINCE 1952. WE'VE BEEN THE FIRST AND ONLY AIR POLLUTION CONTROL DISTRICT ORGANIZED IN THE COMMONWEALTH. WE HAVE ABOUT 60. AIR POLLUTION, ENGINEERS, PROFESSIONALS AND SCIENTISTS. AND A GROUP OF VERY MISSION ORIENTED AND DEDICATED INDIVIDUALS WHO DO THIS WORK.

CURRENTLY THIS IS OUR OR CHART. WE DO HAVE SOME IMPORTANT VACANCIES. I'D LIKE TO GO OVER WITH YOU. WITH RESPECT TO, UH. OUR CURRENT VACANCIES. IN APRIL, WE LOST OUR LONGTIME COUNTY ATTORNEY. WE ACTUALLY HAVE A DEDICATED COUNTY ATTORNEY WHO SPECIALIZES IN THE CLEAN AIR ACT. AND A PARALEGAL. WE PAY FOR THEIR SERVICES, BOTH SALARY AND BENEFITS. AND STACY DOT RETIRED.

AND NOW WE'RE SERVED VERY CAPABLY BY KWON WHEN. FOLLOWING STACY'S RETIREMENT IN MAY. UH MATT DWYER, OUR COMPLIANCE AND ENFORCEMENT COORDINATOR. AT MSDH HIGHER SALARY. FOLLOWING MATT IN

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POSITION THE A P. C D REGULATE REGULATORY COORDINATOR AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL COORDINATOR IN THE PROGRAM PLANNING SECTION. WE'RE IN, UH INTERVIEWS FOR THE EXECUTIVE MINISTRATIONS. THAT ROLE WAS PREVIOUSLY HELD BY A PERSON WHO WAS ALSO THE DIRECTOR OF PROGRAM PLANNING. WE'VE SPLIT THAT OFF. WE THINK THAT WILL GIVE BETTER COVERAGE FOR OUR FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT WORK AS WELL AS ALLOW MISS KING WHO'S NOW OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR AND DIRECTOR OF PROGRAM PLANNING. TO FOCUS ON SOME VERY IMPORTANT WORK. I'M EXTRAORDINARILY NARROWLY HAPPY TODAY TO LET YOU KNOW THAT JUST SHORTLY BEFORE COMING HERE WAS NOTIFIED THAT WE'VE RECEIVED $1 MILLION GRANT THAT WILL ALLOW US TO ESSENTIALLY REDO THE WEST LOUISVILLE AIR TOXIC STUDY, WHICH WAS THE SEMINAL STUDY. THAT STARTED OUR STRATEGIC TOXIC AIR REDUCTION PROGRAM. THIS WORK WILL FOCUS ON AMBIENT AIR, TOXICS AND HEALTH IMPACTS IN THE RUBBER TOWN CORRIDOR. WILL BE JOINED IN THAT WORK BY THE WEST JEFFERSON COUNTY COMMUNITY TASK FORCE. PART DEVOLVED COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTERS, LITTLE PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELLNESS AND THE ENVIRONMENT INSTITUTE. SO I'M VERY PLEASED ABOUT THAT. THE VACANT ENVIRONMENTAL COORDINATOR WILL ALSO JOIN IN THAT WORK.

REGULATORY COORDINATOR. UNFORTUNATELY, TOOK A POSITION WITH THE KENTUCKY RESOURCES COUNCIL IS AN ATTORNEY AND WILL BE FILING FOR THAT POSITION SOON. THE TWO VACANT ENGINEER POSITIONS WILL LIKELY TAKE ONE OF THOSE AND DEDICATE IT TO THE NEW WORK THAT'S COMING. WITH THIS MULTI YEAR AIR TOXICS GRANT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR OUR CHART? I HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION JUST TO CLARIFY SO OUR FISCAL YEAR BUDGET 24 SHOWED THAT YOU HAD FIVE COMPLIANCE OFFICERS AS OF APRIL. SORT CHART SHOWS. FOUR VACANCIES. CAN YOU JUST CONFIRM THAT? THAT IT WENT FROM 5 TO 4 SPOTS THAT WERE BUDGETED. NO WE STILL HAVE FIVE BUDGETED SPOTS THAT OTHER COMPLIANCE OFFICER IS ACTUALLY IN OUR INDUSTRIAL AH PERMITTING SECTION OKAY? AND YOU'RE SORRY. INDUSTRIAL COMPLIANCE HAPPENED SINCE APRIL THIS YEAR. IT HAPPENED SINCE AUGUST. OKAY. WOW. YEAH. AND COULD YOU EXPLAIN JUST FOR EVERYBODY WHAT THESE COMPLIANCE OFFICERS DO. I DO HAVE MORE DETAILED INFORMATION FURTHER IN THE REPORT, BUT I'LL BE HAPPY TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THESE ARE SWORN PEACE OFFICERS. THEIR ROLE WITH THE DISTRICT IS TO GO OUT AND INVESTIGATE DUST, OPEN BURN AND ODOR COMPLAINTS. COULD YOU SAY THAT A LITTLE BIT LOUDER DIRECTLY INTO THE MICROPHONE? FOR ME? IT'S A LITTLE FAR AWAY, SO THESE CAN THESE COMPLIANCE OFFICERS. THEIR ROLE IS TO INVESTIGATE DUST. ODOR AND OPEN BURN COMPLAINTS. THE FIFTH POSITION IS IN OUR INDUSTRIAL COMPLIANCE SECTION, AND THEY HELP MANAGE THE ASBESTOS FEDERAL NICHIA PROGRAM HERE IN LOUISVILLE. OKAY YOU SAID YOU HAVE MORE DETAILS ABOUT THEIR THEIR ROLE LATER ON IN THE OKAY. THANK YOU. SO I AM GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR WORK TO DATE THIS YEAR, BUT THERE'S A LINK HERE TO OUR ANNUAL REPORT FOR 2022, AND I INVITE YOU TO SPEND SOME TIME LOOKING AT ALL THE WORK THAT THE DISTRICT DOES. IN MORE DETAIL. AS I MENTIONED, OUR WORK IS A CONTINUUM. SO WITH THAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WHERE WE ARE WITH THE NATIONAL AMBIENT AIR QUALITY STANDARDS. THESE ARE FEDERALLY SET STANDARDS. CLEAN AIR ACT IS A CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. IT WORKS THROUGH COOPERATIVE FEDERALISM. EPA IS REQUIRED TO RE EVALUATE THESE STANDARDS, WHICH ARE PUBLIC HEALTH BASED ON A PERIODIC BASIS. IT LEAVES IT TO STATE AND LOCAL AIR POLLUTION CONTROL AGENCIES TO DEVELOP THE PLANS TO MEET THOSE STANDARDS.

SO WITH THAT. WE ARE CURRENTLY IN ATTAINMENT. FOR FIVE OF THE SIX CRITERIA POLLUTANTS. WE ARE CURRENTLY IN NONATTAINMENT FOR OZONE. THAT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE FOR THE AREA, AND I'LL TALK

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INCLUDE OUR GEOGRAPHY WERE TRULY WITHIN A BOWL HERE AND THAT TRAPS AIR AND STAGNANT AIR MASSES. THE PRECURSORS OF OZONE. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT SUBMITTED DIRECTLY FROM A PLANT, BUT IT IS FORMED IN THE SUMMER FROM EMISSIONS OF NITROGEN OXIDES AND VOLATILE ORGANIC COMPOUNDS. HERE IN LOUISVILLE. THOSE NITROGEN OXIDES ARE PRIMARY DRIVER. OF OZONE FORMATION. SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THIS CHALLENGE. WE HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE THIS SUMMER WITH THE CANADIAN WILDFIRE SMOKE. WE'VE SEEN SOME EXCEED INCE'S OF THAT STANDARD. WE HAD PREVIOUSLY REQUESTED REDESIGNATION BECAUSE WE WERE ATTAINING THE STANDARD. THAT'S BECOME A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLEX. WHY WE WILL BE PREPARING AND SUBMITTING AN EXCEPTIONAL EVENT DEMONSTRATION FOR WILDFIRE DRIVEN OZONE FORMATION. IT MAY NOT RELIEVE US OF ALL THE VIOLATIONS, AND SO WE'LL HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THE PLAN THAT THE CLEAN AIR OUT ACT SETS OUT FOR US. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? THE CANADIAN FIRES, THOUGH, THAT IT'S OUT OF YOUR CONTROL WHILE WE GET WHY WOULD YOU GET FINED OR CITED OR REPRIMANDED FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS OUT OF YOUR CONTROL OUT OF CAPACITY. SO THAT'S WHERE THOSE EXCEPTIONAL EVENT DEMONSTRATIONS COME INTO PLAY. SO WE SIMPLY HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE TO U. S. C. P A THAT DURING THE TIME THAT WE MONITORED THOSE HIGH OZONE CONCENTRATIONS. THE CANADIAN WILDFIRES WHERE THE CONTRIBUTING FACTOR, SO WE HAVE TO PREPARE A FAIRLY TECHNICAL SUBMISSION. AND SEND THAT TO US. C P A. GO BACK. SO THIS IS THE AIR QUALITY INDEX . THIS IS A LIVE DASHBOARD ON OUR WEBSITE. YOU CAN COME AND CHECK ANY DAY OF THE WEEK AND SEE WHERE WE ARE WITH RESPECT TO AIR QUALITY. WE USE THESE AIR QUALITY INDEX IS TO LET FOLKS KNOW. WHEN THE AIR IS CLEAN. AND WHEN IT MAY BE UNSAFE FOR BREATHING THIS SUMMER FOR THE FIRST TIME, IT'S HARD TO SEE ON THIS MAP. WE ACTUALLY HAD HERE MONITORED IN THE UNHEALTHY RANGE. THAT WAS ALSO DUE TO THE CANADIAN WILDFIRE SMOKE. AND WITH THAT IN MIND EXCUSE ME WITH THAT IN MIND THE PARTICULATE MATTER STANDARD, WHICH WERE CURRENTLY MEETING U. S. C. P A IS EVALUATING STRENGTHENING THAT STANDARD. WE SHOULD FIND OUT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT STANDARD LATER THIS FALL. AND IT'S ALSO LIKELY THAT WE'LL HAVE TO DO AN EXCEPTIONAL EVENT DEMONSTRATION BECAUSE OF THE CONTRIBUTION OF PARTICULATE MATTER. FROM THESE CANADIAN WILDFIRES. SO TWO SEPARATE. DOES IT OR TWO SEPARATE. SUBMIT ALS TO US CPA ONE FOR OZONE, THE OTHER FOR PARTICULATE MATTER.

AND WE'LL HAVE TO GET THOSE IN. TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR AMBIENT AIR MONITORING PROGRAM.

THE WAY I LIKE TO LOOK AT OUR WORK. IT ALL STARTS WITH THEIR MONITORING. WE HAVE A SERIES OF FIVE AIR MONITORING SITES ACROSS JEFFERSON COUNTY, BUT OUR METROPOLITANS JUST. PARDON ME, OR METROPOLITAN STATISTICAL AREA ALSO INCLUDES CLARK AND FLOYD COUNTY AND PORTIONS OF BULLET AND ALDAM, SO THERE ARE FOUR EXTRA MONITORS IN THOSE AREAS THAT CONTRIBUTE TO OUR UNDERSTANDING OF AIR QUALITY HERE. THEY ANNUALLY COLLECT OVER 50 MILLION INDIVIDUAL DATA POINTS AND QUALITY, ASSURE THOSE AND SEND THEM TO US E P. A. THAT'S PARTLY BECAUSE OF THE CRITERIA MONITORING THAT WE DO WITHIN JEFFERSON COUNTY AS WELL AS THE FACT THAT WE'RE RUNNING TO AUTO GAS CHROMATOGRAPH SO ONE AT ALGONQUIN PARKWAY FOCUSED ON AIR TOXICS, THE OTHER AT OUR CANNONS LANE AIR MONITORING SITE FOCUSING ON PHOTO, CHEMICALLY REACTIVE, VOLATILE ORGANIC COMPOUNDS. IN FACT OF THE MATTER IS IT'S THE SAME COMPOUNDS WERE JUST LOOKING AT THEM FOR DIFFERENT PURPOSES. SINCE MAY THEY HAVE CERTIFIED ALL OF OUR CRITERIA POLLUTANTS AND SUBMITTED THAT TO U. S. C. P A THEY HAVE PREPARED QA QC ARE YOUR AUTO GCC DATA? AND THAT'S REALLY GOOD DATA COMPARED TO SOME OF OUR OTHER MONITORING TECHNIQUES. WHAT WE GET FROM THOSE AUTO GCS IS NEAR REAL TIME MONITORING OF AIR TOXICS IN THE AIR. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE SOME VERY ADVANCED METEOROLOGY. THEY DO HAVE SOME SPECIAL PROJECTS. WE HAVE AN AIR SENSOR CO LOCATION SHELTER. YOU MAY HAVE SEEN PURPLE AIRS. SEVERAL THE TV STATIONS HAVE THOSE. BUT MANY PEOPLE CAN NOW AFFORD LOW COST SENSORS, WHICH AREN'T QUITE THE SAME AS OUR REGULATORY MONITORS.

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IN LOUISVILLE EQUIPMENT AND PROJECTS THAT EMIT OR CONTROL AIR POLLUTION REQUIRE A PERMIT FROM THE DISTRICT. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ABOUT 30 TITLE FIVE SOURCES HERE IN LOUISVILLE. THOSE ARE OUR LARGEST, SO THINK LITTLE GAS AND ELECTRIC AMERICAN SYNTHETIC RUBBER COMPANY, FORD MOTOR COMPANY. WE ALSO HAVE ABOUT 100 SIMILARLY SIZED SOURCES THAT TAKE LIMITS TO AVOID TITLE FIVE.

WE CALL THOSE FEED OOPS, OR FEDERALLY ENFORCEABLE DISTRICT ORIGIN OPERATING PERMITS. THE MAP SHOWS WHERE THOSE ARE LOCATED WITHIN JEFFERSON COUNTY. THIS MAP IS ACTIVE. IF YOU GO TO OUR WEBSITE, YOU CAN CLICK ON A DOT AND IT WILL PULL PULL UP. A PERMIT AND MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT SOURCE. OUR STATS TO DATE ARE SHOWN THERE. THEY'RE NOT SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT FROM THIS TIME LAST YEAR, AND I CAN PROVIDE MORE DETAIL IF YOU'D LIKE A COMPARISON, BUT BY AND LARGE ARE PERMITS ARE TERRIBLY COMPLEX. UH, THEY ARE. FOR OUR LARGER SOURCES, SOMETIMES AS MANY AS 400 PAGES LONG BUT BECAUSE OUR WORK DOESN'T GET DONE WITHOUT PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. WE HAVE TRIED TO PROVIDE A ONE PAGE F A Q. THE MOST IMPORTANT INFORMATION WE THINK THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO KNOW. WHAT DOES PERMIT DO? DOES IT INCREASE POLLUTION? AND IF SO, BY HOW MUCH. AND HOW WILL IT BE CONTROLLED? AND WHERE THEY CAN FIND MORE INFORMATION. IN ORDER TO HELP THE PUBLIC FIND MORE INFORMATION ABOUT OUR WORK. WE KEEP AN ACTIVE PROPOSED ACTIONS PAGE. IN ADDITION TO THE PERMIT, YOU'LL FIND WHAT WE CALL THE STATEMENT OF BASIS. FACTS ABOUT THAT PERMIT. WHEN YOU CAN, UH, COMMENT. AND WHEN A PUBLIC HEARING MAY BE HELD ONCE A PERMIT IS ISSUED. WE KEEP IT ON A RECENT ACTIONS PAGE BECAUSE OUR WORK, OF COURSE CAN BE APPEALED. SO WE WRITE THESE PERMITS, BUT OUR GOAL IS TO BE SURE THAT WHEN WE WRITE THEM THERE WELL WRITTEN AND COMPANIES FOLLOW THEM. WE HAVE AN INDUSTRIAL COMPLIANCE GROUP.

THEY ASSURE COMPLIANCE WITH DISTRICT PERMITS. THIS YEAR, THEY HAVE COMPLETED ALL THE FEDERALLY REQUIRED FULL COMPLIANCE EVALUATIONS AT 22 FACILITIES FOR COMPARISON. LAST YEAR, THAT GOAL WAS 18 AND WE MET THAT. THEY CONDUCT DAILY COMPLIANCE REVIEWS OF THE RECORD KEEPING AND REPORTING FOR OUR SOURCES. AND THEY PERFORMED FACILITY INVESTIGATIONS.

LOUISVILLE HAS RETAINED DELEGATION OF THE FEDERAL RISK MANAGEMENT PLAN PROGRAM. IT'S ALSO KNOWN AS THE CHEMICAL ACCIDENT PREVENTION PROGRAM. WE'RE ONE OF ONLY NINE ENTITIES IN THE NATION WHO HAVE RETAINED DELEGATION OF THIS PROGRAM. IN THE COMMONWEALTH OF KENTUCKY.

THIS PROGRAM IS IMPLEMENTED BY U. S. C. P A THEIR LAST ASSESSMENT WAS THEY HOPED TO INSPECT 3% OF THE FACILITIES ACROSS THE NATION. AND GIVEN OUR SOURCES HERE IN LOUISVILLE, THAT WAS NOT SUFFICIENT FOR US. ADDITIONALLY OUR BOARD RECENTLY STRENGTHENED OUR RISK MANAGEMENT PLAN PROGRAM TO GO BEYOND THE FEDERAL REGULATIONS. AND AT THIS POINT WHERE IMPLEMENTING THAT AND ALSO AWAITING SOME ADDITIONAL REVISIONS FROM U. S. C. P A WE IMPLEMENT THE FEDERAL ASBESTOS NISHAT PROGRAM IN JEFFERSON COUNTY. TO DATE WE'VE ISSUED 367 PERMITS 118

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WE DO HAVE A ODOR SERVICE REQUEST DASHBOARD. AH! DO YOU WANT TO GET THESE NUMBERS? RIGHT SO GIVE ME A SECOND JUST FOR COMPARISON. LAST YEAR. IN 2022. OUR COMMUNITY COMPLIANCE GROUP RECEIVED 197 OPEN BURN COMPLAINTS. 67 DUST COMPLAINTS. AND 517 ODOR COMPLAINTS. SINCE JUNE 1ST OF THIS YEAR. WE'VE RECEIVED OVER 2000 REPORTS OF VOTERS. 1600 OF THOSE SINCE AUGUST 1ST ALONE. THIS IS AN ACTIVE MAP. IT'S REALLY. VERY EFFECTIVE DASHBOARD. I INVITE YOU ALL TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT. IT'S NOT UPDATED DAILY. IT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO UPDATE PERIODICALLY. FOR THIS YEAR. WHAT YOU SEE, OF COURSE, IS THAT OUR ODOR REPORTS ARE CONCENTRATED IN THE AREA THAT SERVED BY MORRIS FOREMAN'S COMBINED WASTEWATER SEWER SYSTEM. THAT'S PREDOMINANTLY WITHIN THE WATERSON EXPRESSWAY. AND PREDOMINANTLY WEST OF NINTH STREET. UNFORTUNATELY, THE MAP KIND OF LAYERS REPORTS ON TOP OF REPORTS AND SO IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A WHOLE LOT TO START DRILLING DOWN AND REALIZED THAT THERE MAY BE MANY REPORTS LISTED UNDER ONE OF THOSE BUBBLES. IT ALSO SHOWS US THAT FROM A TIME STANDPOINT, WE RECEIVED MORE COMPLAINTS. IN THE LATE SUMMER EARLY FALL MONTHS. WE'LL SEE A SIMILAR PATTERN THIS YEAR. WE ALSO SEE THAT SIMILAR PATTERN WITH MOST OF THESE REPORTS COMING IN WITHIN THE 40211 ZIP CODE AREA. IN ADDITION TO OUR UM . DASHBOARDS WE DO REPORT MONTHLY TO OUR BOARD KIND OF OLD SCHOOL AND PAPER. SO WE HAVE A COMPLAINT INVESTIGATION STATUS REPORT. AND THAT LETS OUR BOARD KNOW WHAT COMPLAINTS WE'VE RECEIVED WHAT OUR ACTIONS WERE TAKEN. WE MAKE THIS AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC. WE ALSO CALLED THE PUBLIC BACK WHEN THEY CALL US AND THEY HAVE A REPORT AND LEAVE US THEIR CONTACT INFORMATION. SO THAT THEY KNOW WE'VE HEARD THEM AND WE'VE RESPONDED TO THEIR COMPLAINT. BECAUSE THE WORK AGAIN IS A CONTINUUM. THERE ARE TIMES WE NEED WHEN WE NEED TO TAKE AN ENFORCEMENT ACTION. WE'RE AUTHORIZED UNDER CARE AS CHAPTER 77 TO ISSUE NOTICES OF VIOLATION AND ASSESS CIVIL PENALTIES OF UP TO $10,000 PER DAY PER VIOLATION. IN 2023. WE

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SO WE ASKED THEM TO PUT ON THEIR WEBSITE. THEIR CATCH BASIN CLEAN OUT SCHEDULE. AN ODOR REPORT LOG. OF ALL ODOR REPORTS RECEIVED ON A MONTHLY BASIS AND THE STEPS THAT THEY'VE TAKEN TO MITIGATE ODORS. WE REQUIRED THEM TO PREPARE AND IMPLEMENT. AN ODOR CONTROL MASTER PLAN FOR THE MORRIS FORM AND WATER QUALITY TREATMENT CENTER. AND THE COLLECTION SYSTEM. WHERE YOU SEE IT, SAYS LOUISVILLE MSD .ORG ODOR. I INVITE YOU ALL TO GO TO M S D S WEB PAGE. AS PART OF THE BOARD AGREEMENT. THEY WERE ALSO REQUIRED TO HOLD FIVE COMMUNITY MEETINGS. AND ALSO HAVE A COMMUNITY OUTREACH PROGRAM. AS PART OF THEIR TECHNICAL WORK. THEY PREPARED NINE TECHNICAL MEMORANDA, ASSESSING THE ODOR, CAUSING EQUIPMENT AND OPERATIONS AT THEIR FACILITIES. FROM THAT THEY DEVELOPED RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE FINAL REPORT. THAT REPORT WAS FINAL IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TWO PROJECTS IN MORRIS FOREMAN. WHICH WE ARE REQUIRED UNDER THEIR CONSENT DECREE WITH THE KENTUCKY DIVISION. OF WATER AND U. S. C P A FOR THE COMBINED STORMWATER OVERFLOWS. THE OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEIR IMPLEMENTATION IS TO BE DETERMINED. THERE IS NO DATE YET SET FOR THOSE MR BRIAN BINGHAM WITH MSD. BRIEFLY SPOKE TO OUR BOARD YESTERDAY AND WILL BE RETURNING TO SPEAK MORE TO OUR BOARD NEXT MONTH. ABOUT THEIR PLANS FOR IMPLEMENTING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS. AND HOW THEY WILL BETTER MANAGE ODORS DURING THIS HOT DRY PERIOD THAT WE HAVE EACH YEAR. DIRECTOR WE HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS GONNA ASK THAT FOR THE REST OF THE PRESENTATION. WE CONDENSE IT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

HAPPY, TOO. THIS IS AN ACTIVE ENFORCEMENT, UH, WEBSITE ON OUR PAGE. YOU'RE WELCOME TO GO THERE. YOU CAN SEE THE NOTICES OF VIOLATION AS WELL AS THE SUBSEQUENT SETTLEMENTS OR OTHER ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION. WE REPORT THIS TO OUR BOARD ON A MONTHLY BASIS. I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE SEVERAL CHALLENGES TO PERMITS IN OUR LITIGATION REPORT. AND THOSE TWO ARE IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE WORKS THAT CONTINUUM PROGRAM PLANNING DOES OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT AS WELL AS OUR REGULATORY AND RULEMAKING. THIS GROUP, OF COURSE, DOES OUR AWARD WINNING CLEARING THE YEAR WORKSHOP SERIES YOU CAN REGISTER FOR THE NEXT UPCOMING CLEARING THE AIR WORKSHOP SERIES, WHICH WILL BE NEXT WEEK WITH THREE MORE TO FOLLOW THROUGH DECEMBER.

IT'S A GREAT WAY FOR PEOPLE TO FIND OUT ABOUT OUR WORK AND HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH US OUTSIDE OF AN ENFORCEMENT, PUBLIC HEARING OR RULEMAKING AND JUST REALLY TALK TO THE FOLKS WHO DO THE WORK. AND WITH THAT. SO REPEAT THOSE NUMBERS ONE MORE TIME FOR US, SHE SAID. LAST YEAR, YOU HAD 500 SOMETHING. ODOR COMPLAINTS. 517 IN THIS YEAR YOU'VE HAD OVER 2000 SINCE. CURRENTLY WE DON'T SORRY. JUNE COMPLIANCE OFFICERS TO INVESTIGATE THOSE COMPLAINTS. THAT SECTION ISN'T STAFFED, HOWEVER. WE HAVE DISTRIBUTED THAT WORK TO OUR INDUSTRIAL COMPLIANCE ENGINEERS AND ARE

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BUT YOU DO HAVE THAT WORK ELSEWHERE WITH OTHER EMPLOYEES WITHIN YOUR DEPARTMENT.

ABSOLUTELY AND HOW MANY PEOPLE EXACTLY I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THE ENGINEERS. BUT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY DOING THAT INVESTIGATION WORK FOR OLDER SPECIFICALLY ON A DAILY BASIS.

WE'LL JUST HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE YOU SAID. PLEASE TAKE ON THIS RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE THOSE POSITIONS ARE VACANT. GOING TO GO BACK UP TO MY OKAY, HERE. SO WHAT YOU SEE IS WE HAVE TWO TEAMS IN OUR PERMITTING SECTION. THOSE FOLKS ARE IN AND AVAILABLE AS WELL AS THE INDUSTRIAL GROUP UNDER, UH DJ FOUNTAIN. I'M SORRY THAT UP FOR YOU 1234. 56789 11 12 13 14. 14. AND ALL OF THEM ARE DOING THE WORK OF THOSE COMPLIANCE OFFICE OFFICERS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO INVESTIGATE.

ODORS ARE DISPATCHED IN ORDER TO PRIORITIZE OPEN BURN. THE CHEMICAL ODOR REPORTS, WHICH WE CONTINUE TO GET, AND FRANKLY, THE SEWER ODOR ISSUES ARE A LITTLE DIFFICULT, SOMETIMES.

HYDROGEN SULFIDE IS THE PREDOMINANT ODOR FROM THE SEWER SYSTEM. THAT'S THAT EGGY SMELL, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF ANAEROBIC DIGESTION GOING ON IN THE SEWER SYSTEMS RIGHT NOW, AND SOME OF IT PLAINLY JUST SMELLS FUNKY. PEOPLE REPORT CHEMICAL ODORS. WE'RE GOING TO DISPATCH OR INDUSTRIAL ENGINEERS TO THE PLANTS FOR THOSE ODORS MAY BE COMING FROM FIRST REFER OUR COMPLAINTS TO MSD, WHO IS RUNNING CURRENTLY. TWO SHIFTS TO HELP RESPOND TO THESE ODORS AND, QUITE FRANKLY, WITH RESPECT TO THE SEWER ODORS. THIS IS AN ISSUE WHERE MSD NEEDS TO TAKE OWNERSHIP AND ACCOUNTABILITY. AND THE PEOPLE THAT YOU'VE ASKED TO DO THIS WORK, THEY RECEIVE EXTRA TRAINING. HOW ARE THEY QUALIFIED TO DO THE INVESTIGATIVE WORK THAT THE COMPLIANCE OFFICER'S I SUPPOSED TO DO? WELL, JUST LIKE THOSE COMPLIANCE OFFICERS WHO ARE SPECIALLY TRAINED IN SOURCES OF VOTERS ARE ENGINEERS ARE ALSO TRAINED SIMILARLY. WHAT'S THE STARTING SALARY FOR THE COMPLIANCE OFFICERS? I THINK IT'S 41,000 THAT COMPARES TO PEER CITIES. DO YOU NOT KNOW THAT? I WILL SAY AT THIS POINT THAT, UH BECAUSE THE.

COMPENSATION STUDY HAS BIFURCATED THE UNION. UM, SALARY. CHANGES. OR THE UNION SALARY PROCESS FROM THE NON UNION. UH, THAT IS SOMETHING WE'D LIKE TO SEE. TAKEN CARE OF QUICKLY. OUR UNION IS THE AFSCME MASTER. IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT METRO WHAT WILL GET THEM TO THE TABLE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. BUT AT THE MOMENT THEIR SALARIES ARE 5% LESS. THEN THERE NONUNION COUNTERPARTS BECAUSE OF THE 5% ACROSS THE BOARD THAT MOST RECEIVED. SO THERE'S A DISPARITY THERE AND I AGREE WITH YOU. AH IN TERMS OF HIRING. WE HAD ONE CANDIDATE WHO WITHDREW HER APPLICATION FOLLOWING THE INTERVIEW. WE HAD A CANDIDATE WHO DECLINED THE OFFER. AND SO WE'D LIKE TO SEE THE PROCESS OF THE SALARY COMPENSATION STUDY BEING COMPLETED FOR ALL OF OUR, UH EMPLOYEES AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. ALRIGHT BEFORE I JUMP TO THE CLUE JUST TO FOLLOW UP QUESTION ABOUT YOUR BORDER CONTROL MASTER PLAN CAME OUT DECEMBER 2022 YOU MENTIONED A COUPLE OF PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN STARTED BUT OVERWHELMINGLY MAJORITY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND ACTIONS. YOU DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE BEEN STARTED. OR ARE YOU SAYING YOU DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE COMPLETE, OR I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THE STATUS OF IT.

SO THIS IS THE METROPOLITAN SEWER DISTRICTS ODOR CONTROL MASTER PLAN. THIS IS FOR MSD TO IMPLEMENT. THE PLAN HAS NUMEROUS RECOMMENDATIONS FOR MSD, BOTH AT THE MORRIS FORM AND WATER QUALITY TREATMENT CENTER. AND IN THE COLLECTION SYSTEM. TO DATE. THERE ARE TWO PROJECTS I'M AWARE OF AT MAURIS FOREMAN THAT ARE UNDERWAY. ONE WILL BE COMPLETED IN 2026, THE OTHER BY 2030.

THOSE HAVE DATES CERTAIN BECAUSE THEY'RE COVERED UNDER THE CONSENT ORDER WITH US EPA AND

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WHERE THEY IDENTIFIED 123 CATCH BASINS THAT NEEDED TO BE CORRECTED. PREVIOUSLY LAST YEAR, THEY WENT IN AND DETERMINED THAT THEY COULD CORRECT THEM BY DAISY CHAIN. THERE WERE DAISY CHAINING TOGETHER, 12 OF THEM. BUT FOUND THAT THAT DID NOT RESOLVE THE ISSUE. AND SO THEY HAVE NOW.

SUCCESSFULLY LET THE CONTRACT FOR ADDITIONAL WORK TO BE DONE, AND THEY EXPECT TO DO THAT LATER THIS FALL. THERE'S ALSO WORK TO BE DONE IN THE CALIFORNIA NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE ARE EVALUATING CHICKASAW IN SHAWNEE AND THE TAILOR BERRY NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK IN. THE CALIFORNIA NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY'VE COMPLETED PHASE ONE. I THINK PHASE TWO IS SLATED FOR 2024.

AND THERE MAY BE A THIRD PHASE FOR WHICH THEY'VE RECEIVED SOME EPA FUNDING. OTHER THAN THAT, THE OTHER WORK ON THE COLLECTION SYSTEM. IS ALSO TO BE DETERMINED. I'LL PASS THE MIC, BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF MSD. YOU'VE WORKED WITH THEM ON THESE RECOMMENDATIONS. THESE ACTIONS BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE MSD ISN'T KEEPING UP WITH THEIR PROGRESS. WE WOULD HOPE THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT WOULD BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LACK OF CONFIDENCE IN MSD AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE.

WE'RE RELYING ON YOU, AND WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH YOU TO DO THAT, AND I'M VERY CONCERNED.

THAT IF THEY'RE NOT KEEPING UP WITH IT, AND YOU'RE NOT KEEPING UP WITH IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE A POLITICAL HOT POTATO. TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, IF I MAY ABSOLUTELY. MSD WILL BE COMING BACK TO THE AIR POLLUTION CONTROL BOARD NEXT MONTH TO LAY OUT THEIR PLANS. BUT WE HAVE A SHARED RESPONSIBILITY HERE, NOT JUST MSD AND A PCD, BUT METRO COUNCIL AS WELL. THE AIR POLLUTION DISTRICT DOES ITS WORK THROUGH THE CLEAN AIR ACT. BECAUSE THE CLEAN AIR ACT RECOGNIZED THAT THERE WAS A BIG PROBLEM TO BE SOLVED. AND IT REQUIRES US TO CHIP AWAY AT IT BY PLANNING, REEVALUATING AND REASSESSING AND PLANNING AGAIN. AND OVER THE LAST 50 YEARS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO TACKLE A REALLY BIG PROBLEM WHILE STILL ALLOWING FOR ROBUST ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THIS ISSUE WITH MSD IS A BIG PROBLEM. IT'S GOING TO COST MONEY. METRO COUNCIL HAS A SHARED RESPONSIBILITY HERE WITH BEING SURE THAT MSD HAS THE AVAILABLE RESOURCES NECESSARY TO TAKE ON THIS WORK. I RESPECTFULLY HAVE REQUEST AND REQUESTED FROM MSD A PLAN TO SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC SO THAT THEY HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE LONG TERM WORK AHEAD OF MSD.

AND HOW MSD WILL SHARE THEIR PROGRESS WITH THEM. MOREOVER I'VE ALSO ASKED FOR A SHORT TERM PLAN FOR CONTINUING SUMMERTIME ISSUES LIKE WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST YEARS THAT ARE NOT GOING TO GO AWAY. SO THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS WHAT MSD CAN AND WILL DO WHEN WE HAD THIS HOT, DRY PERIODS. THAT WILL BE HELPFUL. I THINK IN GETTING THE PUBLIC INVOLVED IN MST IS WORK.

BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY ANOTHER PARTNER WHO'S GOT A SHARED RESPONSIBILITY. IT'S HARD TO ASK PEOPLE TO CONTINUE TO REPORT ODORS. I READ EVERY ONE OF THE REPORTS THAT COME IN TO OUR AGENCY. EACH MORNING. I READ THIS MOMENT I CITY ABS. I READ THE REPORTS THAT GETS SENT TO US EPA IN THE KENTUCKY DIVISION FOR AIR QUALITY. I UNDERSTAND THAT FOR A LOT OF OUR COMMUNITY. THIS IS A TREMENDOUS BURDEN ON THEM. AND ON THEIR ECONOMIC VIABILITY OF THEIR COMMUNITIES. SO I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THIS INFORMATION WITH YOU AND TO WORK IN PARTNERSHIP WITH METRO COUNCIL AND MSD TO TACKLE THIS ISSUE. I PROMISE I'M GONNA PASS THE MIC THAT MEETING THAT MSD IS GOING TO HAVE WITH YOU. ALL THAT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. IT IS TIME FOR US AND FOR THE PUBLIC, IT WILL BE THE THIRD WEDNESDAY OF NOVEMBER. I THINK THAT IS WE GET THESE SPECIFIC DATE. I'LL GIVE MY CALENDAR OUT IF YOU WANT. THE THIRD WEDNESDAY . MHM NOVEMBER 20 EXCUSE ME NOVEMBER 15TH OK 15 10 A.M. AT THE EDISON CENTER. ALL RIGHT. YOU HEARD IT HERE. I'LL PASS THE MIC. I'LL COME BACK, THOUGH COMMITTEE MEMBER RULEY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, I WAS VERY STARTLED TO SEE THAT THING THERE WITH ALL THE RED ON AND I'M VERY GLAD TO HEAR THAT. YOU'VE GOT SOME COMPLIANCE OFFICERS COMING IN. I REALLY DID NOT EXPECT THAT MOST OF THEM SPEND THEIR TIME CHASING SMELLS AROUND. BUT THAT SEEMS TO BE WHAT'S HAPPENING, ISN'T IT? IN THE SUMMERTIME IN

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UH PLACES AND SO ON A DAILY BASIS. WHEN OUR COMPLIANCE OFFICERS GO OUT, THEY TRAVEL AROUND. AND THAT ALLOWS THEM SOMETIMES TO CATCH ODORS BEFORE UH, COMPLAINTS HAVE BEEN MADE AND ALSO TO ASSESS THE SITUATION WHERE WE MAY BE GETTING COMPLAINTS AT DIFFERENT TIMES.

OKAY THANK YOU. ONE LAST QUESTION AND I'LL PASS IT ON TO SOMEBODY ELSE. UM, I KNOW THERE WERE AIR MONITORING STATIONS SET UP AT DIFFERENT SCHOOLS IN PARTICULAR. I'M THINKING OF BARNSLEY MIDDLE SCHOOL WHERE I USED TO TEACH AND LAST I HEARD THOSE WERE OFFLINE. ARE THOSE COMING BACK ONLINE? I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHICH, UM MONITORING SITES YOU MAY BE REFERRING TO, BUT FOR GETTING TO MY PICTURE HERE, BUT FOR US WE CURRENTLY HAVE MONITORS AT WATSON LANE ELEMENTARY. CAREER THERE'S ELEMENTARY OVER TIME. WE'VE HAD TO MOVE SOME OF OUR EQUIPMENT AS SCHOOLS AND SOME SCHOOL POLICIES HAVE CHANGED, BUT WE ALSO HAVE CANNONS LANE ALGONQUIN PARK WAY, WHICH IS THAT FIREARMS TRAINING. ENDURE IT LANE, WHICH IS OUR NEAR ROAD, UM, MONITORING STATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE DID DO A PROJECT RECENTLY WITH U. S. C P A AT A COUPLE OF SCHOOLS IN WEST LOUISVILLE. OUT OF THEIR NEXT GENERATION EMISSIONS MEASUREMENT WORK. THEY'VE DEVELOPED AN ODOR APP. AND IT'S BEEN COUPLED WITH AN S POD, WHICH I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY.

THAT'S PART HAS A AH! MONITOR ON IT THAT IT'S KIND OF LIKE A SILENT CENTURY. IT SITS AND SNIFFS THE AIR AND WHEN IT DETECTS A PLUME OF VOLATILE ORGANIC COMPOUNDS, IT OPENS UP A CANISTER THAT'S PLACED WITH THE S POD. AND TAKES A GRAB SAMPLE. OF THE AIR AND THE THEORY BEHIND THIS PILOT PROJECT THAT WE DID THIS SUMMER IS THAT WE'D BE ABLE TO PRE PLACE THESE CANISTERS.

USE AN APP TO TRIGGER REPORTS OF ODORS AND THEN TAKE A SNAPSHOT OF WHAT WAS IN THE AIR WHEN PEOPLE WERE PERCEIVING IT. AND THEN SEND THAT OFF TO ALLOW FOR ANALYSIS TO SEE WHAT WAS IN IT.

AND IF NECESSARY, TRACE THAT BACK. TO AN INDUSTRIAL SOURCE OR OTHER SOURCE. VERY INTERESTING.

THAT SOUNDS LIKE A CHALLENGE. THANK YOU. COMMITTEE MEMBER HUDSON. THANK YOU CHAIR. SO IN IN LISTENING TO YOUR PRESENTATION, AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT. UH, I PICKED UP ON A DISCONNECT BETWEEN UM WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THERE'S AN EVENT AT A PRIVATE PRIVATE SECTOR.

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DON'T FIX THE SMELL. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WHEN IT'S MSD THEY GET PASS. DO YOU AND HERE'S MY QUESTION. THAT'S A LOT OF LEAD UP TOURISM TO A QUESTION. IS IT A LACK OF LEADERSHIP? OR AN UNCLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF DIVISION. IS THAT QUESTION FOCUSED AT THE DISTRICT COURT MST. I'M ASKING THIS OF YOU. WITH RESPECT TO MSD, AND WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO ASSESS CIVIL PENALTIES. MSD IS A RATEPAYER ORGANIZATION. NOW THAT THAT WAS JUST THE LEAD UP TO THE QUESTION. THE QUESTION WAS IS THE FACT THAT WE'RE NOT FIXING THE PROBLEMS, TOO? I DON'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS YOU SAID THAT WERE IDENTIFIED, BUT ONLY TWO WERE ACTUALLY FIXED. IS IT A LACK OF LEADERSHIP KEEPING US FROM FIXING THE PROBLEM? OR THE VISION IS NOT NOT OUT THERE AND UNDERSTOOD THAT WE HAVE TO FIX THE PROBLEM. I AGREE. OUR INTENT WITH OUR AGREED BOARD ORDER WITH MSD WAS TO GET THEM TO IDENTIFY THE PROBLEM AND THOSE FIXES. AND THEN TO IMPLEMENT THEM. IN TERMS OF THEIR IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY AGAIN. IT'S NOT IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE IN THE 2022 REPORT. MSD HAS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE TWO PROJECTS THAT ARE UNDERWAY AT MORRIS FOREMAN. NOT IDENTIFIED SPECIFIC DATES FOR THE REMAINING WORK. I WOULD JUST I WOULD JUST ASK NOT TO NOT LET PERFECTION GET IN THE WAY OF GOOD. WE HAVE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE CALLING AND SAYING IT STINKS, ESPECIALLY IN THE WEST END. WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING OTHER THAN PUT TOGETHER. SPREADSHEET SPREADSHEETS, TOP 50 PROBLEM, BUT I DO WANT TO CHANGE THE CHANNEL AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANSWER ON THAT. UM AND THIS IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TOPIC.

IS THERE AN EXIT STRATEGY TO GET OUT OF REFORMULATED GAS ALTOGETHER OR. AT LEAST OPEN UP THE CHOICES OF REFORMULATED GAS TO MORE THAN ONE. YES. SO LET ME START WITH SAYING THAT WITH RESPECT TO REFORMULATED GAS. OUR AREA IS IN NONATTAINMENT FOR THE OZONE STANDARD AND REFORMULATED GAS AS A CONTROL MEASURE FROM A PREVIOUS OZONE NONATTAINMENT PLAN. IN ORDER TO REMOVE OUR F G. WE HAD PREVIOUSLY REQUESTED REDESIGNATION TO US CPA AND THEY HAVE BEEN EVALUATING THAT REQUEST. IF WE WERE REDESIGNATED AS ATTAINMENT, AS WE HAD HOPED BEFORE THIS SUMMER WITH THE CANADIAN WILDFIRES OUR PLAN WAS TO SUBMIT A REQUEST TO REMOVE OUR F G ON THE BASIS OF REDUCTIONS THAT ARE COMING IN NITROGEN OXIDES, WHICH IS OUR OZONE DRIVER HERE. FROM SOURCES OUTSIDE OF JEFFERSON COUNTY. UNFORTUNATELY AIR POLLUTION DOESN'T A BAD, BAD JURISDICTIONAL BOUNDARIES. WE GET ABOUT 30% OF THE NITROGEN OXIDES THAT FORM OZONE HERE IN JEFFERSON COUNTY FROM SOURCES OUTSIDE BUT THERE ARE PLANS IN PLACE TO REDUCE EMISSIONS FROM ELECTRIC GENERATING UTILITIES. THAT WOULD ACCOUNT FOR THE REDUCTIONS WE GET IN OUR F G.

UNFORTUNATELY WHERE WE ARE NOW WE'RE KIND OF STUCK IN NONATTAINMENT UNTIL WE GET THROUGH EITHER THE OZONE REDESIGNATION PROCESS. AND AN EXCEPTIONAL EVENT DEMONSTRATION, OR WE HAVE CLEAN DATA FOR NEXT YEAR. SO IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THAT. OUR PLAN IS TO PETITION U.

S. C P A TO REMOVE OUR F G. WHEN LG AND E IS AUTHORIZED TO SHUT DOWN. MILL CREEKS UNIT ONE AND.

TWO BECAUSE WE'RE IN NONATTAINMENT. WE NEED TO HAVE QUANTIFIABLE, ENFORCEABLE, REAL AND SURPLUS EMISSION REDUCTIONS. CLOSING DOWN. THOSE TWO UNITS WILL GIVE US THAT AND THAT WILL BE THE BASIS FOR THE PETITION. IF WE'RE STILL IN NONATTAINMENT, AND I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT PEOPLE REALLY TIGHT ON TIME, BUT I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY IS WE HAD APPLIED FOR ATTAINMENT UNTIL THE CANADIAN WILDFIRES CORRECT WHICH HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH L GENIES FACTORIES. THEY LGBT IS NOT TIED INTO THAT THEY ARE TIED INTO BRINGING OUR AREA INTO DEMONSTRATING ATTAINMENT UNDER THE CLEAN AIR ACT. OKAY? ASSUMING WE DON'T GET THAT CAN WE OPEN UP THE CHOICES OF REFORMULATED GAS TO MORE THAN ONE? SO REFORMULATED GAS IS A SPECIFIC BLEND. UH THAT IS

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OF THIS YEAR. YES, THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN HAWKINS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HELLO THANKS FOR BEING HERE TODAY. UM IT'S JUST A LITTLE CONCERNING BECAUSE I JUST MET WITH THE MSD ABOUT THIS SMELL. UM LAST WEEK, AND I SPOKE WITH A WEST SIGNORE, THE CHIEF OF PUBLIC AFFAIRS. UM, WHO. THE WHAT? YOU WERE JUST SPEAKING TO, UM, DEFINITELY DID NOT GO HAND IN HAND WITH ANYTHING THAT, UM, HE SPOKE TO ME ABOUT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. UM THE PUBLIC JUST DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH AWARENESS. THAT'S THAT'S THE CONCERN, MAN. UM MY OFFICE HAS GOTTEN HIS DISTRICT ONE, WHICH IS A ALGONQUIN. I KNOW THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT SEVERAL TIMES PART DUVAL. UM AND, UH, PORTION OF CHICKASAW AND, UH, THE CONSTITUENTS ARE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS. A LOT OF THEM HAVE HAD A LOT OF HEADACHES ARE GETTING REALLY SICK. UM AND THEY'RE CALLING IN ABOUT THIS SMELL MORE NOW THAN PROBABLY SINCE I'M GETTING IN THE SCENE. AND WEST STATED, DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS ABOUT A PIPE SYSTEM? UM THAT IS UNDERGROUND ON BROADWAY, AND IT'S BEEN THERE SINCE 18 16. ARE YOU FAMILIAR? UM THE BEST MAN PIPE THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED. UM AND THEN SOMETHING THAT YOU ALSO STATED, UM. YOU STATED THAT YOU MISS D. MM, POLLUTION CONTROL AND METRO GOVERNMENTS, UM ARE IN PARTNERSHIP TO ASSURE THAT THE THIS IS WE ALL HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY. UM AND IF I'M GOING TO SPEAK FOR DISTRICT ONE, IF I HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY, UM I WOULD THINK THAT MM. POLLUTION CONTROL. UM, SHOULD HAVE CONTACTED YOU KNOW, METRO GOVERNMENT MSD. LET'S SET THE MEETING UP SO WE CAN COLLECTIVELY, UM, COME TOGETHER TO TRY TO FIND A SOLUTION FOR THIS. BECAUSE IT'S A BIG ISSUE. IT IS A BIG ISSUE. YOU KNOW? UM I DON'T THINK THAT WEST OF ONE THING THAT WAS SIGNAL DID SAY WAS THAT WHATEVER THE SOLUTION THAT THERE IS BEING USED TO PUT IN THESE TRAPS. UM THAT IT'S NOT HAZARDOUS TO PEOPLE'S HEALTH.

UM, BUT IT'S UNSAFE. IT SEEMS TO BE MAYBE, UM, A LITTLE UNHEALTHY BECAUSE. IT HAS TO BE MORE PUBLIC AWARENESS BECAUSE THE PUBLIC JUST IS NOT A WORD AND THEY ARE CONCERNED. ABOUT THIS SMELL AND WHAT SOLUTION THAT IS BEING USED. SO I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOURSELF. UH AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TRANSPARENCY. BUT WHEN YOU MADE THAT STATEMENT SAYING THAT WE'RE PARTNERS.

WELL, IF WE'RE PARTNERS, THEN GUESS WHAT? I'LL BE THE FIRST ONE TO BE AN ADVOCATE ON SETTING UP A MEETING WITH YOURSELF SO WE CAN BE CONSISTENT. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. SO YEAH. SO I'M OUTBOARD TO DO THAT, BECAUSE NOTHING THAT YOU ARE SEEING COINCIDES WITH WHAT WEST SAID WHO WE JUST MET WITH ABOUT THIS SMELL. SO WITH RESPECT TO THE PIPING SYSTEM.

HERE IN LOUISVILLE. THERE ARE 1900 MILES OF WHAT'S KNOWN AS A COMBINED STORMWATER SEWER SYSTEM . IT'S OUR OLDER SYSTEM WAS BUILT IN THE 18 HUNDREDS AND SOME PLACES. IT WAS DESIGNED TO LET SEWAGE AND RAINWATER MOVE THROUGH. UH, SINCE THE 19 FIFTIES TO THE MORRIS FORM AND WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. THERE ARE ALONG THE WAY PLACES WHERE THAT SYSTEM BECOMES VERY FLAT. TYPICALLY MORRIS FOREMAN HANDLES 120 MILLION GALLONS OF WASTEWATER A DAY. WHEN IT GETS HOT AND DRY LIKE THIS, THE FLOW DROPS RIGHT NOW. ACCORDING TO MR BINGHAM, THEY'RE RUNNING ABOUT 52 MILLION GALLONS A DAY. THAT'S NOT ENOUGH WATER TO MOVE THE SEWAGE. ALONG TO MOORE'S FOREMAN , AND AS A RESULT, IT'S COLLECTING IN THOSE PIPES UNDERNEATH YOUR FEET, AND IT'S DOING WHAT BUT BIOLOGICAL STUFF DOES, WHICH IS AN AEROBICALLY BREAKDOWN, AND THAT CREATES THOSE ODORS. THERE ARE PLACES ALONG THE COLLECTION SYSTEM. YOU KNOW, UNDERNEATH YOUR SINK.

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ALL RIGHT. BEFORE YOU GO. I GOT A LONG LIST OF QUESTIONS THAT COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAVE SUBMITTED . SO WE'RE GONNA DO A QUICK WRAPPING AROUND IF YOU'RE ALL RIGHT WITH THAT. WHY DO YOU OFFER DISCOUNTS ON PENALTIES? THE COMPANIES AND HOW DO YOU DETERMINE WHO GETS THOSE DISCOUNTS? SO WE DO OFFER A 25% SETTLEMENT DISCOUNT. UH, TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE COST OF LITIGATION. WHICH WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR IS THE DISTRICT. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE DO OFFER WE HAVE IN THE PAST, NOT OFFERED THAT IF WE'VE HAD A PARTICULARLY RECALCITRANT OR DIFFICULT SETTLEMENT NEGOTIATION TO WORK THROUGH YOUR ODOR COMPLAINTS INCLUDE COMPLAINTS TO MSD. PARDON ME. COMPLAINTS INCLUDE COMPLAINTS WITH FROM MSD. SO CONSOLIDATED. IN THIS WAY. A PCD AND MSD AUTOMATICALLY GET ALL SEWER RELATED. COMPLAINTS MADE TO METRO 311.

THEY'RE SPLITTING AND THEY COME TO HIS BOTH. WE BOTH GET SMELL MY CITY AP REPORTS IN REAL TIME THERE ARE OTHER COMPLAINTS THAT WE RECEIVED BY PHONE AT THE AIR POLLUTION CONTROL DISTRICT OR EMAIL. WE PUT THOSE INTO OUR SYSTEM FOR OUR WORK, AND WE ALSO REFER THOSE TO MSD SO THAT THEY CAN TAKE ACTION TO ELIMINATE ODORS OR FLUSH OUT A CATCH BASIN. AND THEN COMPLAINTS THAT WE'VE BEEN RECEIVING THAT HAVE BEEN SENT TO US EPA OR THE KENTUCKY DIVISION FOR AIR QUALITY. I'VE BEEN SENDING THOSE DIRECTLY TO TONY PARENT. UNDERSTOOD DO YOU KNOW ABOUT WHAT PERCENTAGE OF PERMITS THAT ARE REQUESTED OR DENIED? SO WE DON'T REALLY DENY PERMITS. WE HAVE AN APPLICATION THAT CAN'T BE. PERMITTED. WE SIMPLY DON'T MOVE FORWARD AND PROPOSE A PERMIT THAT WOULD NOT BE ACCEPTABLE. SO IT NEVER MAKES IT TO PROPOSED PERMIT PHASE. IT'S SIMPLY RETURNED TO THE APPLICANT . DO YOU KNOW ABOUT HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE RETURNED? AS OPPOSED TO MOVING FORWARD? WE DON'T REALLY KEEP THAT METRIC. UH THERE ARE MANY PLACES WHERE AN APPLICATION MAY BE RETURNED FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS. AND THEN THE APPLICANT MAY CURE A DEFICIENCY. AND RETURN THAT DOES YOUR DEPARTMENT DO ANYTHING ABOUT WHISKEY FUNGUS TO GET SOME PEOPLE'S HOMES? WE DO NOT DO ANYTHING DIRECTLY WITH WHISKEY FUNGUS. COUPLE MORE. HOW DO YOU CONSIDER THE TWO SIDES BETWEEN AFFECTED COMMUNITIES AND COMPANIES TO WHAT'S THAT PROCESS LIKE? I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU MEAN BY CONSIDERING TALKED ABOUT PUBLIC HEARINGS AND THE PUBLIC BEING INVOLVED IN THE WORK YOU ALL DO IF SOMEONE'S AGAINST A PERMIT, MOVING FORWARD OR GROUP

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AND THE FIRST THING YOU GOTTA DO IS JUST ACKNOWLEDGE IT. AND THEN YOU NEED TO BREAK IT DOWN INTO ACTIONABLE STEPS AND FIND FUNDING. TO DO THAT. BECAUSE THIS IS IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITY. IT ALSO HAS TO BE DONE WITH PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT. TRANSPARENCY IN TERMS OF PROGRESS, TRANSPARENCY IN TERMS OF COST FUNDING FROM METRO COUNCIL AS THESE PROJECTS MOVE FORWARD. BE A TREMENDOUS BENEFIT TO MSD KNOWING THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF MONEY. AND TIME. UNDERSTOOD THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. NO MORE BUSINESS TODAY. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR

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