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METRO TV WILL START IN 30 SECONDS.

[Call to Order]

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ALRIGHT FOLKS. THIS IS THE REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE

[Roll Call]

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PRESIDENT CHAMBERS, COZMA'S SON, COUNCILMAN HUDSON, COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS, MY YOUR CHAIR, COUNCILMAN ACKERSON. VIRTUALLY WE HAVE COUNCILMAN OWEN AND COUNCILMAN REED. SO WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. WE'LL HAVE ONE ITEM THAT WE'RE DEALING TODAY. I DON'T NUMBER TWO IS GOING TO STAY TABLED, SO WE DEAL WITH ITEM NUMBER ONE. 0-230 DASH 23 IN ORDER SUBMITTING CHAPTER 94. 1 15 AND 1 56 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES RELATED TO UPDATES TO THE FIRE PREVENTION AND SAFETY STANDARDS OR EMOTION. ITEM IS PROBABLY BEFORE US. WE HAVE OUR FIRE CHIEF AND STAFF HERE TO DISCUSS. UM SORRY. MARRIED. WE HAVE TO HAVE THE VIRTUAL. THIS MEETING IS BEING HELD PURSUANT TO THE KRS 61 8 TO 6 AND COUNCIL RULE FIVE A THERE WE GO. CHIEF. IF YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF THE RECORD, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN TO US WHAT'S GOING ON IN THIS ORDINANCE

[Pending Legislation]

CHANGES THAT WE MADE AND EDUCATE THE GENERAL PUBLIC. APPRECIATE. ABSOLUTELY YES. MY NAME IS CHIEF BRIAN O'NEILL, CHIEF OF THE LOUISVILLE FIRE DEPARTMENT. I'M HERE WITH OUR FIRE MARSHAL LIEUTENANT COLONEL BRIAN MUIR. SO THIS IS REALLY MOSTLY LIKE CLEANUP LEGISLATION DEALS WITH SOME NOMENCLATURE. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT'S A SMOKE DETECTOR AND A SMOKE ALARM. A LOT OF US USE THAT BACK AND FORTH. BUT IN THE INDUSTRY, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE. IF YOU THINK OF A BUILDING LIKE THIS THAT HAS SMOKE DETECTORS THROUGHOUT THAT WILL DETECT SMOKE AND SEND A SIGNAL BACK TO AN ALARM PANEL. WHEREAS A SMOKE ALARM IS AN INDIVIDUAL UNIT LIKE YOU'D HAVE IN A RESIDENTIAL HOME WHERE IT WORKS INDEPENDENTLY, AND IT'S GOING TO ALARM IF IT

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DETECTS SMOKE IN THAT CASE, SO WE JUST WANT TO CLEAN UP THAT LANGUAGE BETWEEN DETECTION ALARM . THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF LANGUAGES BEING STRUCK OUT. OF 94 THAT DEALT WITH THE SPRINKLER RETROFIT. THAT PROJECT HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND I'LL ACTUALLY I'LL HAND IT OVER TO LIEUTENANT COLONEL MUIR. HE'S THE EXPERT WHEN IT COMES TO FIRE PREVENTION. THAT'S WHY HE'S THE FIRE MARSHAL. LIEUTENANT COLONEL UP YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF WITH THE RECORD. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, SIR. MY NAME IS BRIAN. YOU'RE I AM THE FAR MARSHAL FOR THE LOCAL FIRE DEPARTMENT AND ALSO THE PRESIDENT OF THE JEFFERSON COUNTY FIRE INSPECTORS ASSOCIATION AND FOR THE PAST YEAR. WELL MORE THAN A YEAR. WE'VE WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON CLEANING UP THIS ORDINANCE. IT'S BEEN QUITE A LONG TIME. UM A LOT OF IT IS THE RESULT OF CHANGES IN THE STATE AND STATE LANGUAGE AND THROUGH THE THROUGH THE STATE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE. THAT ORIGINAL LEGISLATION IS CALLED THE KENTUCKY STANDARDS AND SAFETY 8 15 KR 10 060, BUT WHEN THEY MAKE CHANGES THERE THAT CASCADES TO THIS AND SO IT'S REQUIRED US TO MAKE SOME CLEANUP TO MAKE IT COMPLIANCE.

SO UM, CHIEF MENTIONED THE HIGH RISE RETROFIT SECTION JUST A LONG SECTION. THAT PROJECT WAS COMPLETED. IT WAS VERY INNOVATIVE. IT'S A GREAT THING, BUT IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE IN THERE ANYMORE. UM WE'RE WE'RE NOT ADDING HARDLY ANYTHING TO THIS. THIS IS, UM WE TALKED ABOUT. LIKE ALL OF OUR SMOKE ALARMS ARE REQUIRED TO BE THE 10 YEAR LITHIUM TYPES WITH THE NON REMOVABLE BATTERY OR HARDWIRED. IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOREVER. IT REMAINS THAT WAY. NOTHING IS CHANGING WITH THAT, UM. IF YOU WANT TO HAVE SOME SORT OF ENTERTAINMENT IN TOWN, WITH FIREWORKS AND PYROTECHNICS, YOU HAVE TO CARRY INSURANCE AND 20 YEARS AGO, A MILLION DOLLARS OF INSURANCE WAS APPROPRIATE. AND IT'S A LITTLE LIGHT NOW. SO WE'RE INCREASING THAT NUMBER 24 MILLION, BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF RISK MANAGEMENT AND SPECIAL EVENTS.

UM. IF YOU HAVE IF YOU DO NOT LIKE AN INTERPRETATION OF A FIRE CODE. UM THERE IS A FULL SECTION IN HERE ON A FIRE PREVENTION APPEALS BOARD. THAT'S WHERE YOU WOULD GO TO IF YOU WANTED TO CHALLENGE WHAT, UH, YOU THINK IT'S A DIFFERENT INTERPRETATION OF THE FIRE COOK THE STATE LEGISLATION, THE STANDARD SAFETY OF REFERENCED REMOVED ANY ALTERNATIVE FOR LOCAL APPEALS LAST YEAR IN THAT DOCUMENT, AND SO IT MAKES THAT WHOLE SECTION MOOT. ALL APPEALS GO TO THE STATE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE IN FRANKFURT. SO WE SHOULDN'T HAVE THAT SECTION IN OUR ORDINANCE ANYMORE. UM CLEAN UP WITH SOME COUNTY LANGUAGE. THERE'S REFERENCE TO INSPECTIONS PERMITS AND LICENSING, AND SO THAT IS CHANGED TO CODE ENFORCEMENT. WHERE APPROPRIATE. UM THERE WAS SOME POSITION, UM, POSITION ALIGNMENT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE WHETHER IT USED TO BE THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC SAFETY OR THE DEPUTY MAYOR. OF WHAT? YOU KNOW WE'RE JUST GOING TO MAKE THAT MORE GENERAL SO THAT THAT CAN BE COMPLIANT AS WELL. UM. IT. ALSO IT ALSO MAKES IT ALSO CLEANS UP BETWEEN ANOTHER ORDINANCE, WHICH IS 1 56, WHICH IS PROPERTY MAINTENANCE, WHICH ALSO HAS SOME SMOKE ALARM LANGUAGE IN IT, SO IT MAKES ALL THAT THE SAME. UM AND THEN THERE'S A SECTION ON FIRE LANES, WHICH UH, IN THE BUILDING CODE IS 20 FT AND FOR IN 20 YEARS AGO, IT WAS 18 FT.

SO WE ARE UPDATING IT TO THAT. THE SECTION THAT I MENTIONED THAT WE ARE ADDING IS THAT IF IT'S NOT LEGAL TO UM. TO HAVE NINE VOLTS SMOKE ALARMS IN YOUR HOUSE ANYMORE AS IT WAS 20 YEARS AGO FOR MERGER, THEN THEY REALLY SHOULDN'T BE SOLD IN JEFFERSON COUNTY, SO THE SAME AS FIREWORKS THAT ARE ILLEGAL SHOULDN'T BE SOLD IN JEFFERSON COUNTY. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS STANDARD AMONGST CITIES OF OUR SIZE AND LARGER AND SO WE FELT IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO ADD THAT LANGUAGE IN THERE AS WELL. ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS COLLEAGUES. I'M NOT USING THE CUBAN SYSTEM, SO IF YOU'VE GOT A QUESTION OR CONCERN JUST CHIME IN ON YOUR OWN. COUNCILOR HUDSON. YEAH, I WAS COMPLETELY COPASETIC WITH EVERYTHING RIGHT UP TO THE END. ABOUT TALKING ABOUT MAKING IT ILLEGAL TO SELL DOWN. VOTE. UM SO HOW'S HOW'S THAT CONTROLLED? YOU GOT TO LOSE? AND SEE HIM ON THE SHOW. MHM WHO'S THE ENFORCEMENT ARM FOR THAT THE FIRED VIOLENTLY THE ENFORCEMENT ARM FOR THAT? JUST LIKE WHAT? YOU CAN'T SELL, UH, FIREWORKS THAT EXPLODE OR GOING TO THE AIR ARSON BUREAU ENFORCES THAT ABC ENFORCES THAT THERE'S A NUMBER OF AGENCIES MPD ENFORCES THAT, UM, THERE'S A FULL SECTION ON ON NOVELTY LIGHTERS. LIGHTERS AREN'T TOYS AND SO NO GAS STATIONS ARE ALLOWED TO SELL. LITTLE LIGHT SABERS OR TOY CARS OR WHATEVER THEY'RE LIGHTERS AS WELL. SO WHEN WE DO AN INSPECTION OR THORNTON'S, WE CHECK AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT SELLING NOVELTY LIGHTERS AS WELL . SO ARE THE ALTERNATIVES TO A NINE VOLT. SMOKE. ALARM ALARM.

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THANK YOU, UM HARDWIRE, OR ARE THERE OTHER BATTERY OPERATED? CONSIDER HARDWIRE OR A 10 YEAR LITHIUM AND ACTUALLY, SIR, IF YOU WERE TO GO TO LOWE'S OR HOME DEPOT, YOU CAN'T BUY A SMOKE ALARM THAT HAS A NINE VOLT BATTERY. THEY ONLY CARRY THE 10 YEAR LITHIUM OLDER STORE, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIND ONE. BUT THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE INDUSTRY STANDARD, ALSO THROUGH A PROGRAM THROUGH THE COUNCIL, ANY RESIDENT OF THE URBAN SERVICE DISTRICT AND CALL 311. AND WE'LL COME AND PUT UP A 10 YEAR LITHIUM SMOKE ALARM IN THEIR HOME. APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH AND REALLY QUICK ON THAT. JUST SO I CAN REITERATE, UH, YOU KNOW, LIEUTENANT COLONEL MUELLER MENTIONED THAT HE'S PART OF THE JEFFERSON COUNTY FIRE INSPECTORS. THE PRESIDENT HAD ORGANIZATION. SO THIS HAS BEEN VETTED THROUGH THEM, AND I'VE SPOKEN WITH ALL THE COUNTY FIRE CHIEFS AS WELL. EVERYBODY'S ON BOARD WITH THIS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS FOR ANYONE. COLLEGE THIS IS MY THOUGHTS. THIS IS A 27 BEACH PAGE PIECE OF LETTING, UH, LEGISLATION. IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S NOT THAT COMPLICATED, HOWEVER, IN LIGHT OF THE SIZE OF THE LEGISLATION, MY THOUGHT PROCESS WOULD BE TO TABLE THIS. GIVE EVERYONE SORT OF TWO WEEKS TO DIGEST MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS FROM THERE AND THEN IN TWO WEEKS, WE'LL BRING THIS BACK BEFORE THIS BODY. IF THERE'S ANY NEED FOR AMENDMENTS, WE CAN DISCUSS IT AT THAT TIME. IF THERE AREN'T THEN WE'LL PASS IT OUT. IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. THERE'S BEEN A MOTION TABLES OR SECOND THERE'S A VOICE VOTE. ALSO FAVORITE TABLE AND SAY, I OPPOSITION. HERE IN THE OPPOSITION, AND WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY COUNCILMAN RASHAD. AND WHO JUST VOTED TO TABLE ALSO, SO, UH, NOTHING ELSE BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE, WE'RE GOING TO ADJOURN. CHIEF LIEUTENANT COLONEL, I GREATLY APPRECIATE ALL YOU DO. AND, UH THANK YOU.

[Adjournment Note: Agendas are followed at the discretion of the Chair. While an item may be listed, it does not mean all items will be heard and/or acted upon by the Committee.]

THANK YOU. STAY SAFE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.