Oct 17, 2023 Planning and Zoning Committee

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YEAH. THANK YOU. YEAH. HOW ARE THEY? OKAY ALL RIGHT. YEAH, OK, OKAY. I'LL DO THAT. YEAH. OKAY?

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METRO TV. DO YOU MIND CHANGING THE, UM THE VOTECAST PAGE, PLEASE.

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KEEP THIS. CAN YOU JUST GIVE JUST A BRIEF DESCRIPTION? ABSOLUTELY YEAH. BRIEF DESCRIPTION, NOT SURE SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CHANGE IN ZONING ON PRIVATELY REPORT MY SLIDE HERE. HANG ON A SECOND. GET IT RIGHT. OKAY SO THE PROPERTIES IN QUESTIONS 13,000 TO 13,012 FACTORY LANE. UH THE APPLICANTS REQUESTING A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM O R O R ONE C ONE TO C TWO. AND THEN THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS FOR A MIX OF YOU HAVE APARTMENTS AS WELL AS SOME HOTEL TO HOTELS. AND SO THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING ON THE SITE. THIS ONE TO PLANNING COMMISSION ON SEPTEMBER 7TH. AND THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO, UM APPROVED THE CHANGE IN ZONING FROM O R. ONE C ONE TO C 20 R O R ONE OF THE C ONE TO C TWO WITHIN RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THE FORM DISTRICT CHANGE FROM SUBURBAN WORKPLACE TO NEIGHBORHOOD AND AGAIN. THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THAT WAS THAT THE CHANGE IN FORM THE FORM DISTRICT WAS NOT NEEDED TO FACILITATE THE DEVELOPMENT. AND ACTUALLY WAS GOING TO CREATE A ADDITIONAL WAIVER. AND SO THE PLAYING COMMISSION DECIDED THE FUN DISTRICT TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION TO NOT CHANGE THAT. HAVE TO MAKE SURE I HAVE

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MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS AN ARTIST RELATING TO THE ZONING OF PROPERTIES LOCATED. AT 82, 04, 82, 12, 83 02 AND 83 06 GLASER LANE CONTAINING 14.22 ACRES AND BEING IN LOCAL METRO CASE NUMBER 23 ZONE 0052. PROBABLY MADE BY COUNCILMAN BET. SEAN SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN RUI. WE'RE READY FOR DISCUSSION. OKAY? I ALSO PRESENT THIS ONE LAST TIME. BUT JUST TO RECAP. THIS IS A REZONING REQUEST FROM OUR FLORIDA ARE FIVE APPLES, PROPOSING A MAJOR SET DIVISION WITH 43 LOTS ON APPROXIMATELY 14 ACRES PLANNING COMMISSION CONDUCTED A NIGHT HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 11TH 2023. AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE CHANGING ZONING BY VOTE OF 9 TO 0. THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME. I THINK AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO COUNCILMAN HUDSON, WHOSE DISTRICT THIS ZONING CHANGES IN AND I BELIEVE HE HAS SOME ADDITIONAL BINDING ELEMENTS HE WOULD LIKE TO ADD.

UM, BUT FIRST WE'VE ALSO BEEN JOINED BY COUNCILMAN UM BAKER AND ALSO BY COUNCIL LIKE RASHAD.

GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD, JEFF SHARE. YEAH I'VE GOT TWO BOUND BINDING ELEMENTS. I WANTED TO ADD IT ON TO THIS AND WE EXPRESS GRATITUDE. TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER SO QUICKLY NUMBER 13 IS JUST CODIFYING THE MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE PER UNIT. AND THEN 14 IS THE STANDARD BINDING ELEMENT. THANK YOU. WE NEED TO READ THOSE. FULLY INTO THE RECORD. YES IT IS, AND IT'S BEEN IN THE SYSTEM FOR A LITTLE BIT TODAY. NUMBER 13 AND 14. DID YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THEM BEFORE WE VOTE ON THOSE REAL QUICK OR I THINK HE'S HE'S PRETTY MUCH SUMMARIZED WHAT WHAT THEY DO, SAY THE NUMBER 13 IS THE ONLY ONE THAT'S MAY BE UNIQUE IN THAT. IT CAME UP DURING THE PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSION, UM, THAT EVEN THOUGH THE FLOOR PLANS FOR THE PLANNED UNITS ARE A MINIMUM OF 1401 OF THE COMMISSIONERS THOUGHT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO CODIFY IT. AND WE PUT THAT UNDER 100 SQUARE FEET UNDER. WHAT IS ALREADY PLANNED, SO IT SHOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL THOSE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? YEAH. YEAH. HE HAD MUCH PROBABLY MOVED BY. COUNCILMAN HUDSON'S SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BACK, SEAN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENTS SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE, THANKS THOSE OPPOSED BY LIKE SAN HEARING ON THE MOTION PASSES. UM I HAVE NO ONE ELSE SHOWING IN THE QUEUE FOR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? MR HUDSON THAT YOU WANTED TO ADD? NO, THANK YOU. AND WE'RE READY FOR VOTE. AND THIS IS IN COUNCILMAN HUDSON'S DISTRICT. EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT A COMMITTEE MEMBER. HE DOES HAVE A VOTE ON THIS ISSUE. COUNCIL MEMBER READ. YES. AND COUNCIL MEMBER HUDSON.

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I WAS LOOKING AT THE NOTES. HOW MUCH HOW MANY SQUARE FOOTAGE? DID YOU SAY THE DANCE STUDIO WAS GOING TO HAPPEN? 3500 IT'S A 1700 SQUARE FOOT FOOTPRINT. IT'S TWO STORIES SO. I WAS JUST LOOKING AT. I GUESS THAT'S THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING UNDER STAFF NOTES. IT WAS 7500 SO IT WAS JUST A LITTLE . THE PLAN. THE PLAN HAS THE FOOTPRINT 17 52 STORIES, SO I DON'T KNOW. YEAH. ANYTHING CAN CHANGE FROM THAT POINT ON. SO RIGHT, COUNCILWOMAN RUI YES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I NOTICED THAT THERE WAS A WAIVER IN THERE ABOUT ACTS OF MAIN ENTRANCE ON THE MAIN ROAD. WHERE'S IT GOING IN? WHAT'S THE ACCESS? SURE. SO THE. HELP HUNTER. SO THIS IS A RIVER ROAD HERE. PULL UP THE PHOTO HERE SO BASS ROAD TEAS IN THE RIVER ROAD, AND THEN THEY HAVE ALIGNED THE PROPOSED ENTRANCE WITH THE WITH BASS ROAD , SO AS YOU DON'T GET AN OFFSET INTERCHANGE INTERSECTION THEY'RE CAUSED BY THE DRIVEWAY SO THE DRIVEWAY IS ACTUALLY ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY AS YOU CAN SEE HERE.

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THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THE PARKING, SO IT IS TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOODS. SO WHEN YOU HAVE TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD IN YOUR REUSING HISTORIC STRUCTURES, THERE ARE NO PARKING REQUIREMENTS. BUT THERE THEY ARE THERE. THE SPOTS IN THE FRONT WILL BE RELOCATED WILL BE REMOVED WITH THE ADDITION THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY HAD HEARD FROM THE NEIGHBORS DURING THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING PROCESS. SO THERE ARE SOME PARKING SPOTS AT THE REAR. THERE'S ALSO SOME ODD STREET PARKING, BUT THE PARKING IT'S ON STREET HAS A TIME LIMIT.

AND SO BECAUSE IT HAS A TIME LIMIT, YOU CAN'T COUNT THAT TOWARDS YOUR PARKING MINIMUMS AND SUCH. AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW THERE THERE IS SOME ON STREET PARKING. IT JUST CAN'T NECESSARILY BE COUNTED TOWARDS THE MINIMUM. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MINIMUM BECAUSE IT'S IN TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD FORM DISTRICT, IT DOES MEET THE REQUIREMENTS. SO YEAH, IT'S KINDA LONG EXPLANATION FOR THAT, BECAUSE MY CONCERN IS EVEN THOUGH THERE'S GOING TO BE A ELIMINATION OF WHAT TWO UNITS? TWO APARTMENT UNITS. YOU'RE STILL GONNA HAVE? WHAT? SIX. SIX PEOPLE THERE AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW YOU HAVE SIX PEOPLE THAT THEY HAVE THEIR PARKING SPACES, AND THEY'RE NOT FORCED TO BE OUT ON A TIME LIMIT. IN FRONT OF THE BUILDINGS AND HAVE TO GO OUT AND MOVE THEIR CAR EVERY COUPLE HOURS OR SOMETHING. YEAH UH, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE CALCULATIONS GO, THE MINIMUM REQUIRED NUMBER OF SPACES IS FOUR. THEY'RE PROVIDING SEVEN. ON SITE AND THEN, OF COURSE THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE ON STREET, WHICH THEY ANTICIPATE THAT BEING USED PRIMARILY FOR THE COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES. I THINK IT'S A TWO HOUR LIMIT. UH, FOR PARKING ON THE STREET IN THAT AREA. OKAY THANK YOU. CANCELED MEMBER BASH ON. I BET YOU GO. OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN RUI. THANK YOU. THOSE ARE THOSE THREE APARTMENT BUILDINGS THAT ARE SERVED BY NINE SPICES THERE. SO THAT'S THREE APARTMENT BUILDINGS AND AS NOTED THAT THERE'S ALSO AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT'S RIGHT ACROSS KINGSTON FROM THAT. AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF COMING AND GOING THROUGH THEIR ALSO, ESPECIALLY AT THE BEGINNING OF THE DAY AND THE ENDINGND OF THE Y. AND THAT IS A VERY BUSY INTERSECTION, AND I'VE GOT A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC FLOW THROUGH THAT AREA. BRANDED PUBLIC WORKS WAY IN ON THAT, OR DO YOU KNOW? I MEAN, THEY PROVED THEY PRELIMINARY APPROVED THE PLAN. UM BECAUSE THEY FELT THAT YOU KNOW THE IT WOULD NOT GENERATE ENOUGH TRAFFIC TO KIND OF WARRANT ANY KIND OF ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENT STRAIGHT THINGS LIKE THAT, UM, I THINK YEAH, THE ENTRANCE FROM SOUTH THIRD STREET ACTUALLY BEING REMOVED COMPLETELY. SO LIKE ALL THE ACCESS INTO THE SITE WILL COME FROM KINGSTON. SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PUBLIC WORKS HAVE WORKED WITH THE ECONOMIC AND I'M SORRY. IT'S A ONE HOUR RESTRICTION ON THE ON STREET PARKING ON KINGSTON TO OUR YEAH, WELL, IT'S I GUESS TO ME. GOOD THING. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ACCESS FROM THIRD STREET. JUST SIMPLY BECAUSE OF, UM I HAVE NOTICED IN MY OWN DISTRICT WHEN THERE'S A SCHOOL INVOLVED BECAUSE OF THE BUS SITUATION. UM THERE SEEMS TO BE AN EXACERBATED AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC WAITING ON THE STREETS TO GET INTO SCHOOLS NOW TO PICK UP KIDS . I MEAN, I HAVE A SEVERAL SCHOOLS WITH HUGE PROBLEMS, AND I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT RUTHERFORD ELEMENTARY BEING THERE AND WHAT? WHAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH ALL THE TRAFFIC THERE, COUNCIL MEMBER ABOUT SEAN? THANK YOU. CHAIR. THANK YOU, BRIAN. FOR EXPLANATIONS. UM MY QUESTION WAS. WHAT WAS THE COMMENTS ON THE NO VOTE FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION? OH IT WAS THE LOSS OF THE UNIT WAS THE PRIMARY. THE

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THANK YOU, OKAY? DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO ADD TO THIS OR OKAY, REAL CONCERNS ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT AND I WOULD LIKE TO TABLE THIS SO WE CAN FIND OUT SOME MORE INFORMATION. OKAY? BUT WE HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE. IS THERE A SECOND TO TABLE? PROBABLY MOVED IN SECOND. UM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. POSED BY LIKES ON COUNCILMAN SINGLE. DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? THANK YOU. MARRIAGE I'M JUST ASSUMING THE TIMING IS WE DIDN'T ASK THE COUNTY ATTORNEY OF ROPE AGAINST THE CLOCK ON THIS OVERNIGHT. I THINK IT'S DECEMBER 21ST. I WAS I WAS LOOKING AT THE CASES TODAY JUST TO SEE UM TO REMIND ALL OF US A GOOD TIME TO INTERJECT IT.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING UP COUNCILMAN ANGLE THAT WE ONLY HAVE AFTER TODAY, THREE COMMITTEE MEETINGS FOR PLANNING AND ZONING. AND FOUR COUNCILMAN COUNCIL MEETINGS TO THE END OF THE YEAR. I THINK OUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING IS DIM DECEMBER THE 14TH AND OUR LASTS ONLY MEETING SCHEDULED. ONLY MEETING IS DECEMBER THE FIFTH, SO WE ALL NEED TO BE COGNIZANT OF THAT FACT AS WE GO FORWARD, THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN INGLE. OKAY SO THIS IS TABLED UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING IN WHEN WE WANT TO. I DON'T NUMBER FIVE. ISN'T ORDNANCE RELATED TO THE ZONING OF PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 12 85 12 95 13 05 OLD FIRM VALLEY ROAD CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 1.7 ACRES AND BEING A LITTLE METRO CASE NUMBER 23 ZONES 0047. PROPERLY MOVED IN SECOND. WE'RE READY FOR DISCUSSION COMMISSION DOCKET NUMBER 23 ZONE 47. THAT'S THE BUNCH OLD OLD OLD FERN VALLEY ROAD PROJECT. THE PROPERTIES LOOK OR THE PROJECT IS OKAY AT 12 85, 12 95 AND 13 05 OLD FERN VALLEY ROAD. THIS IS LOCATED METRO COUNCIL DISTRICT, 21. THIS IS AN AERIAL PHOTO OF THE SITE. THERE IS CURRENTLY AN EXISTING RESIDENTIAL, UH, STRUCTURE ON THE SITE. UH WHICH DOESN'T HAVE A RESIDENT AND THEN THE AFRICAN IS PROPOSING COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL USE ON THE SITE. YOU CAN SEE. IT'S KIND OF LOCATED IN THE IN THE BEND, WHE OV FERVALLEY ROAD KIND OF TURNS BACK AND GOES BACK UP THE FERN VALLEY RD. HERE'S ZOOMUT O T S CET ALIGT.RORTIES IS COMMERCIALANUFACTURING. UM ZONING DISTRICT. YOU CAN SEE THAT THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH OF FERN VALLEY AND OPEN VALLEY ROAD IS LUCKY IS APPARENTLY NOT EASY. ONE YOU ALSO HAVE SOME PROPERTIES THAT HAVE BEEN REZONED TO COMMERCIAL OR THE HYBRID COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL THAT RUN BETWEEN FERN VALLEY ROAD AND OLD FRIEND VALLEY. THIS PROPERTY HERE NEXT TO THE CN PROPERTY THAT WAS RECENTLY ONE THAT YOU ALL HEARD THAT WAS REQUESTING TO RESULT TO A SIMILAR ZONING DISTRICT. AND SO YOU'VE SEEN THAT KIND OF CONVERSION. THAT'S SOME PROPERTIES IN THE AREA. THE AFRICAN IS PROPOSING THE CHANGES ONLY FROM OUR 42 CM. THERE ARE THREE PARCELS INVOLVED. NOW THE RESIDENCES ARE PRESERVED WILL BE PRESERVED, AND THEN THE AFRICANS PROPOSING AN RV AND BOAT STORAGE FACILITY ON THE SITE. THIS IS THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT. THERE WOULD BE ONE ENTRANCE, WHICH IS LOCATED HERE ON THE NORTHERN PART OF THE SITE. AND THEN YOU HAVE OUTDOOR PARKING SPACES, AS WELL AS SOME COVERAGE SPACES THAT WOULD BE LOCATED IN THE INTERIOR OF THE SITE. UM ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT WAS WORKED OUT BETWEEN ANDY AND T AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS THE PROPOSED GATE. UM PUBLIC WORKS WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS ADEQUATE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE RIGHT OF WAY AND THE PROPOSED GATE ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU WERE DEALING WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE OUTDOOR RECREATIONAL VEHICLES OR OR MAYBE VEHICLES TELLING BOATS AND SO THE 50 FT SETBACK THERE MET THEIR THEIR REQUIREMENTS FOR THEM. THESE ARE SOME SITE PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AND THE. ONE UH, THE AFRICAN CONDUCTED THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING ON JANUARY 4TH 2023 AND DEVELOPMENT TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE MEETING WAS ON AUGUST 24TH AND THEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARINGS ON SEPTEMBER 21ST. THE PLANNING COMMISSIONS MOTION WAS TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL. THE CHANGING ZONING FROM OUR FOUR CM THAT PASSED BY A VOTE OF 8 TO 0.

THAT'S ALL THAT HAPPENS, HAVING QUESTIONS FOR ME. THIS ISN'T CASSELL AND RUIZ DISTRICT ELECTRO DRESSES, COUNCILWOMAN. YES THIS PROPERTY IS AS NOTED IN THERE, SURROUNDED BY INDUSTRIAL

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WE'LL TRY TO ANSWER. I'M SORRY, PRESIDENT WINKLER. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR COLLEAGUES. IF YOU REMEMBER WHEN WE HEARD THIS A FEW WEEKS AGO, THERE'S AN AMENDMENT BY SUBSTITUTION THE SYSTEM. WE WERE DISCUSSING THAT AMENDMENT, AND THEN THE MOTION WAS MADE OF TABLES AND THAT AMENDMENT DIDN'T ACTUALLY GET VOTED ON AND APPRECIATE IF SOMEBODY COULD, UM, MAKE THE MOTION TO CALL THAT AMENDMENT. EMOTION SECOND. PROPERLY MOVED IN SECOND. THANK YOU. SO THE AMENDED MOTIVE VERSION BEFORE YOU AND I DON'T KNOW IF TRAVIS IS IN THE ROOM. UM I APOLOGIZE.

I COULDN'T BE THERE WITH YOU HAD A WORK TRIP THAT I HAD TO TAKE. UM BUT TRAVIS, DID YOU INCORPORATE THE CHANGE FROM CONSTITUTIONAL WEBER TODAY IN THE VERSION, IT'S JUST MOTIONED.

NO, I DID NOT. OKAY SO WE'LL HAVE AN AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT THAT I'LL TALK ABOUT IN JUST A SECOND. UM BUT COLLEAGUES IF YOU REMEMBER BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IS CREATE IT AND WITH THE AMENDMENT DOES IS CREATE PLANS CERTAINTY FOR A DEVELOPER ONCE THEY GET TO THEIR HEARING, SO YOU CAN DO THE LANDMARKING ALL THE WAY UP UNTIL THE DEVELOPER HAS A HEARING AND AT THAT POINT IT'S TOO LATE. UM THERE IS A REQUEST AND WE'LL MAKE THIS HOPEFULLY AS AN AMENDMENT FOLLOWING UP ON THIS TO EXTEND THE NOTIFICATION, PERIOD, 60 DAYS. UM SO IF YOU'RE GONNA DEMO SOMETHING YOU'RE GONNA NOTICE 60 DAYS PRIORITY TO YOUR HEARING. BUT ONCE YOU GET TO YOUR HEARING FROM THAT POINT FORWARD, IT'S TOO LATE. WE WOULD STILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO INTERCEDE AFTER THAT DAY. IF THERE'S SOME SORT OF EMERGING SITUATION THAT WE MISSED, BUT OTHERWISE, UM IT WOULD BE COVERED. AND I'D APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT. COUNCILMAN REAL WEBER. DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT? I DO? UH, AND THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT, AND I'M GONNA MOTION IN A SECOND TIME. TRAVIS READ IT IN, UH, IN ORDER TO GIVE FOR THE STRUCTURES THAT WERE POTENTIALLY WE WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESERVE IN IT, BUT MAINTAINING THE INTENT OF THIS BILL TO NOT CREATE UNCERTAINTY FOR DEVELOPERS TRAVIS WILL READ IN THE MOTION WOULD LIKE THE ABILITY WITH A VERY LOW THRESHOLD TO PETITION TO EXTEND THE TIME. FROM 30 DAYS TO 60 DAYS, RATHER THAN MARCUS. WE DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO CIRCLE BACK ON THIS. UH JUST A PETITION WITH THE LOW THRESHOLD TO MOVE IT TO 60 DAYS TO GIVE PEOPLE TIME TO DO THAT. AH SO THAT WE DON'T INTERFERE WITH THE DEMOLITION OF VACANT ABANDONED PROPERTIES. BY EXTENDING THAT TIMELINE, WHICH WE KNOW WE NEED TO DO EXPEDITIOUSLY BUT STILL HAVE THE TIME FOR STRUCTURES THAT AT LEAST ARE DESERVING OF THAT CONSIDERATION TO HAVE THAT.

SO THAT IS GOING TO BE THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT THAT WE DIDN'T GET IT IN IN TIME, BUT IF WE CAN, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD MIDDLE GROUND OF CREATING ENOUGH SPACE FOR THE PRESERVATIONISTS TO HAVE TIME TO DO THE THINGS THEY WANT TO DO WITHOUT INTERFERING WITH THE NORMAL FUNCTIONING OF GOVERNMENT. SO I'D ASK. YOUR COLLEAGUES ASKED MY COLLEAGUES FOR YOUR SUPPORT ON THAT. TRAVEL CAN READ. THOSE IN THE FIRST WOULD BE IN 1 50 DOT SUB 10 PART B M. AND THAT FIRST SENTENCES EXCEPT AS PROVIDED IN SUBSECTION F. NO RECKON PERMIT SHALL BE ISSUED FOR THE DEMOLITION OF HISTORIC BUILDINGS OR STRUCTURES. FOR A PERIOD OF 30 DAYS FROM STRIKE

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UH, HAS THE SAME REQUIREMENTS AND WE NEED TO BE RECEIVED B THE 20TH DAY. THE REASONING THERE IS MOSTLY SCHEDULING CONCERNS. I MEAN, IN THEORY PETITION COULD COME IN ON THE 30TH DAY AFTER WE CLOSED, WHICH MEANS A DEMOLITION PERMIT MAYBE HAS BEEN ISSUED. DEMOLITION STARTS THE NEXT DAY AND STAFF GETS IN AND READ THREE BALLS AND SAYS, OH, NO, WE GOT A PETITION LAST MINUTE, SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ISN'T A POSSIBILITY. SO GETTING ABOUT THE 20TH DAY YOU CAN GET A 30 DAY EXTENSION. AND THEN THAT HAS ONE OTHER IMPACT IN SUBSECTION C THAT SUB TO NOTICE AS REQUIRED BY SUBSECTION C. SOMEONE ABOVE SHALL BE ACCOMPLISHED MEETING ISSUED. AND THE 30 PARENTHESES OR 60, IF EXTENDED BECAUSE BETSY'S DAY PERIOD HAS PASSED.

UM SO JUST SORT OF FOLLOWING THROUGH THERE TO CLARIFY THAT THERE IS A POSSIBILITY OF A 30 DAY EXTENSION. I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. PRESIDENT WINKLER. YES SO, UM, TRYING TO ADJUST THEIR PROCEDURAL QUESTION? UM FROM WHAT I'M TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. AND WHAT COMES WEARING A RUBBER IS TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS WHY AND IN THIS MAY JUST BE HOW IT HAS TO BE WRITTEN. BUT WHY ARE WE NOT JUST EXTENDING THE NOTICING PERIOD TO 60 DAYS? SO YOU KNOW UP TO 60 DAYS PRIOR OR AT LEAST 60 DAYS PRIOR TO YOUR PUBLIC HEARING? YOU'VE GOT A NOTICE ANY INTENT TO DEMO AND DONE THAT WAS AT REQUEST OF JEFF O'BRIEN FROM PLANNING AND ZONING BECAUSE HE DOES NOT WANT TO SLOW DOWN THE DEMOLITION OF STRUCTURES LIKE VACANT AND ABANDONED HOUSES. THERE'S NO OBJECTION TO AND NO POSSIBLE. HE JUST SAID IT WOULD GIVE US GUM UP THE WORKS A LITTLE BIT, SO HE ASKED FOR VERY LOW THRESHOLD PETITION. UH AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO JUST STRAIGHT 60 DAYS. DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE? I JUST KNOW. NO. OKAY, MOTION. I HAD AN EX OUT SOME STUFF TO GET TO MY SPEAKER'S LIST.

COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL OH, SORRY. WHAT? WHAT DID YOU JUST SECOND HE JUST SECOND THE AMENDMENT.

ADDITIONAL AMENDMENT. I HAVE THREE THINGS TO SAY, BUT I CAN SPEAK ON THAT AMENDMENT. UM.

WELL, I THINK THE ENTIRE INTENT OF THIS IS TO NOT GUM UP THE PROCESS AND IT'S I DON'T SEE THE IT BEING NECESSARY TO CREATE AN ADDITIONAL BARRIER TO SAY OH, YOU NEED TO FILE FOR AN EXTENSION AND HAVING THE KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU NEED TO DO THAT, SO I WOULD BE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH 60 DAYS AS IS IF IT'S VACANT AND ABANDONED. WHAT'S ONE MORE MONTH GOING TO DO, AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF HOMES. THAT PEOPLE WOULD LOVE TO SEE COME DOWN. BUT IF THEY'VE BEEN STANDING FOR THAT LONG THEN WHY DON'T WE JUST MAKE IT 60 DAYS? TO AH, SO THE CONCERN AROUND THAT THE JEFF O'BRIEN RAISED WAS THERE'S REALLY TWO DIFFERENT SETS OF PROPERTIES THAT GET IMPACTED BY THIS ONE IS WHERE THERE IS JUST NO, IT'S THE VACANT AND ABANDONED PROPERTIES. AND SO FROM HIS PERSPECTIVE, THE FASTER THEY CAN MOVE ON THAT THE BETTER SO THAT'S WHY HE ASKED IT. AND FOR ME, THAT DOESN'T IMPACT. THE THING THAT I DO CARE ABOUT, WHICH IS THIS IS A PROPERTY THAT HAS POTENTIALLY HISTORIC VALUE, AND WE WANT TO GIVE PEOPLE AT LEAST THE TIME TO MAKE THAT CASE. SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THIS IS JEFF'S REQUEST. SO THAT'S WHY. I CAN'T SPEAK ON THIS. DID YOU SAID? YOU SAID YOU HAD THREE THINGS. SHOULD I SPEAK ON ALL THREE OF THEM AT THE OTHER TWO DON'T HAVE TO DO WITH THIS AMENDMENT. WELL JUST WHAT? JUST STICK TO THE AMENDMENT THAT AND GET OUT OF THE WAY, AND THEN WE'LL SPEAK TO IT AS A WHOLE. IS

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THIS WOULD GO THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCESS FOR HISTORIC DESIGNATION AGAIN TRYING TO PRESERVE THE INTENT OF THIS, WHICH IS TO GIVE PREDICTABILITY TO DEVELOPERS. SO YOU UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT IS COMING IN AND THERE'S NO LAST MINUTE. WHAT HAS BEEN REFERRED TO REGULARLY AS WEAPONIZING HISTORIC PRESERVATION. THIS SORT OF CLEARS THAT UP. BUT STILL GIVES TIME FOR THE SPACES AND STRUCTURES WHERE WE AS A COMMUNITY DO WANT TO BE ABLE TO SAY NO, NO. WHAT DON'T KNOCK DOWN KHALIL'S RESTAURANT. THAT'S A THERE'S A LOT GOING ON THERE, AND THERE'S A HISTORY THERE. AH IN 30 DAYS IS NOT ENOUGH TIME TO THAT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. SO THAT'S THE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. SO WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANY OF THE NORMAL PROCESS. WE'RE JUST WORKING WELL, THERE'S THE BILL IS CHANGING SOME OF THE PROCESS AND THEN THE AMENDMENT IS JUST ALTERING THE TIMING OF THAT. FROM MY UNDERSTANDING THAN IF. X Y Z DEVELOPER COMES IN AND PURCHASES A PIECE OF PROPERTY AND THE COMMUNITY DECIDES THAT THAT PROPERTY DOES NOT WANT TO BE. THEY DO NOT WANT IT TORE DOWN THE FIRST OF ALL. THEY COMPLAINED ABOUT IT BEING VACANT FOR 10 YEARS AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN DEVELOPER COMES IN. AND THEY CHOOSE TO PUT SOMETHING IN THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T WANT THAT THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THE COMMUNITY CAN DECIDE WHETHER IT'S HISTORIC OR NOT. NO MIRRORS BOND. I AM, TOO. GO AHEAD. PRESIDENT WINKLER. YEAH COMMUNITY NEVER DECIDES WHETHER A BUILDING IS TO WORK. THE HISTORIC COMMISSION DECIDES WHETHER ALL THE COMMUNITY CAN DO IS ASK FOR THE REVIEW. BUT WHAT? WHAT HAPPENS SOMETIMES COUNSELOR ABOUT JOHN IS I'VE I'M AGAINST THE PROJECT. I FAILED, YOU KNOW, CONVINCED THE PLANNING COMMISSION I FAILED AND CONVINCED THE METRO COUNCIL AND SO THEN IN THE 11TH HOUR, I NOW FILE FOR A LANDMARK IN PETITIONER AND FURTHER STRETCH OUT THE PROCESS IN THE HOPES THAT TIME IS THE ENEMY OF DEALS. AND SO IF I CAN THROW ANOTHER ROADBLOCK IN THIS LAST MINUTE THAT THAT MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WHETHER THE BUILDING IS ACTUALLY HISTORIC, OR NOT EVEN JUST SORT OF GUMMING UP THE WORKS, UM, CAN CAN STOP THE PROJECT THAT THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHT SO THE IDEA HERE IS THAT IF YOU'RE GONNA DO STOPPING YOU FROM DOING THAT, BUT IF YOU'RE GONNA DO IT, YOU GOTTA DO IT BEFORE I GET APPROVAL AT THE PLANET COMING HERE BEFORE I HAVE A HEARING. THANK YOU, PRESIDENT. I BELIEVE I'M PROCEDURE LEADERS THE VOTE FOR THE AMENDMENT. WE HAVE. CAN WE VOTE ON BOTH AT THE SAME TIME? OH, IS THIS ON THE AMENDMENTS? OKAY, COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL. WHEN IT COMES TO APPLYING FOR THE EXTENSION OF THE 30 DAYS WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY IS THAT AND DO THEY HAVE TO BE THE SAME PERSON WHO MOVES FORWARD WITH THE LANDMARKING PROCESS? SO AS FAR AS RESPONSIBILITY. IN THEORY, ANY TIM RESIDENTS GET TOGETHER. I THINK THIS SORT OF BROADER PICTURE HERE IS IN ORDER TO GET A LANDMARKS PETITION IN YOU NEED 100 OF THE SORT OF QUALIFICATION QUALIFIED PEOPLE THAT WE JUST SORT OF READ OUT AND THEN AN ADDITIONAL 100 FROM THROUGHOUT GLOBAL METRO. SO FOR JUST THIS EXTENSION, YOU NEED 10. SO IF YOU CAN GET TOGETHER 10% OF ONE HALF OF THE FOCUS THAT YOU NEED TO GET A LANDMARKS PETITION TOGETHER AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, ARE WE GONNA TRY THIS? YES. OKAY WELL, THEN THE 10 OF US CAN SUBMIT A VERY SIMPLE THING AND SAY, HEY, WE NEED 30 MORE DAYS TO GET THIS TOGETHER AND YOU HAVE A NATIONAL 30 DAYS TOGETHER THE ADDITIONAL 90 IN THE DISTRICT SIGNATURES IN THE ADDITIONAL 100 METRO WIDE SIGNATURES. TO FILE SO THERE'S NOT A SPECIFIC INDIVIDUAL, BUT IT'S YOU KNOW ANYONE WHO MEETS THAT CATEGORY OF AN OWNER RESIDENT WITHIN THE COUNCIL DISTRICT OR A ONE MILE RADIUS OF THE, UH PROPERTY. THE HISTORIC STRUCTURES LOCATED ON. SO THIS IS FOR THE EXTENSION, AND IF THIS GETS VOTED DOWN, THEN IT STAYS AT THE 30 DAYS, BUT THERE IS NO OPTION ON THE TABLE TO LEAVE IT AT JUST 60 DAYS. FOR SIMPLICITY OF PROCESS. RIGHT? CORRECT. BECAUSE PART OF MY OTHER ISSUE WITH THIS PARDON ME. UM THE CHANGE IN THIS IS ACTUALLY THE NOTICE THAT'S GIVEN OUT BECAUSE THEY DON'T THINK THAT IT'S VERY CLEAR. AND UM, I DON'T THINK THAT EVERYONE RECEIVES IT IN, UM IN AND OUT OF TIME OR RECEIVES IT AT ALL. UM I

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THERE'S REALLY NO REQUIREMENTS. A LOT OF THEM AREN'T REGISTERED. THEY POP UP, THEY DISAPPEAR.

THEY CAN BE SORT OF UM, YOU KNOW, CREATED BY MEMBERS. SOMETIMES YOU HAVE DUELING NEIGHBOR ASSOCIATIONS ARE DUELING BOARDS WHEN THEY'RE JUST WE DON'T HAVE A GREAT WAY TO CONSISTENTLY TRACK THEM. UM THEY CAN COME INTO AND OUT OF EXISTENCE THEY CAN SORT OF ADD, AND, UH GET RID OF PROPERTIES AT WELL. I MEAN, IT'S JUST IT'S VERY AMORPHOUS AND VERY DIFFICULT FOR STAFF OR ANYONE TO REALLY NAIL DOWN AGAIN. BRAND NEW ONES THAT ARE FROM FORMING ON THE FRONT END WILL HOPEFULLY BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT TO THOSE NEW STATE REGULATIONS, BUT THAT ONLY APPLIES TO NEWLY CREATED ONES. UM AND ISN'T RETROACTIVE. SO I JUST I'M AFRAID WE'RE GONNA CREATE A REQUIREMENT THAT SAYS SOMETHING ON THE LINES OF YOU SHALL FIND THE CLOSEST NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT MAYBE WHO KNOWS IN A DIFFERENT DISTRICT ENTIRELY. I SUPPOSE, BUT IN MY DISTRICT I HAVE SOME NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR OVER 50 YEARS. CLOVERLEAF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, ST JOSEPH'S AREA ASSOCIATION, THE SMITHSBURG AREA COMMUNITY COUNCIL, GERMAN PARIS TOWN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

UM SO I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S OUT OF QUESTION TO THINK TO SAY THAT IT WOULD BE THAT DIFFICULT.

UM, IN SOME CASES, THERE AREN'T ONE BUT I ALSO DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY MORE NOTICE WOULD BE PENALIZED AGAIN. I THINK TRANSPARENCY IS IMPORTANT TO THIS PROCESS. COUNCILMAN PRESIDENT WINKLER. YEAH I THINK THE ISSUE IS THAT YOU POTENTIALLY CREATE A FRAMEWORK IN THE LAW HERE THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO COMPLY WITH OR TO PROVE THAT YOU CAN COMPLY WITH BECAUSE WHILE SOME NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS MIGHT BE WELL DEFINED AND EASY TO IDENTIFY, SOME OR AND SO THEN HOW CAN YOU COMPLY WITH THE LAW? WHEN IT'S A LOOSER ASSOCIATION, RIGHT? AND UM, HOW DO YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE BOUNDARIES OF THAT SIT IF THEY'RE LOOSELY DEFINED AND THEN ARE YOU EXPOSING SOMEBODY TO LIABILITY BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T NOTIFY SOMEBODY BECAUSE THEY AREN'T BECAUSE THE RULES AREN'T CLEARLY DEFINED OF WHAT YOU KNOW WHERE THEIR BOUNDARIES ARE. SO I UNDERSTAND THERE MIGHT BE ONES THAT ARE EASY TO IDENTIFY THAT HAVE SPECIFIC GEOGRAPHY. BUT THERE ALSO ARE ONES THAT AREN'T AND SO WRITING THE LAW THAT ENCOMPASSES ALL OF THAT, I THINK WHILE I APPRECIATE THE INTENT, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT IS PRACTICAL. UM BRIAN, PIGGYBACKING ON THIS NOTIFICATIONS FOR THIS OR JOE HABERMAN, WHICH EVERYONE WANTS TO ANSWER THIS, UH, ANYONE CAN SIGN UP FOR NOTIFICATION. FOR ALL OF THIS RIGHT THE WAY THIS WORKS. IS IT KIND OF STARTS TO LANDMARKING OPPORTUNITY TO FILE A PETITION EARLIER, SO IT'S NOT COMING AT THE BACK END. SO THERE'S TWO NOTICING THAT KIND OF HAPPENED SIMULTANEOUSLY. THERE'S THE NOTICING FOR THE ZONING APPROVAL THAT REQUIRES THE PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS TRADITIONALLY BEEN TO DEVELOPMENT PLAN, SO THAT'S FOLLOWING THE NOTICING. THAT'S IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO ADDITIONAL NOTICING THAT OCCURS. TO THE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT WERE REQUIRED TO NOTICE FOR A LANDMARK ISSUE, WHICH IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT GROUP OF PEOPLE. TOTALLY DIFFERENT LIST THAT YOU SIGN UP FOR. BOTH OF THOSE HAVE A GULF DELIVERY ASPECT. SO IF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR SOMEBODY THAT JUST WANTED TO BE NOTIFIED OF ALL POTENTIAL HISTORIC STRUCTURE, DEMOLITIONS THEY CAN SIGN UP. AND RECEIVE NOTICE OF ALL OF THEM AND THAT'S ONE WAY THAT THEY CAN BE NOTICED. SO ANY OF THOSE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS ANY OF THEIR REPRESENTATIVES COULD RECEIVED THAT NOTICE. UM, BUT IT DOESN'T CALL OUT NOTICING SPECIFIC HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS AS EITHER THOSE PROCESSES IT'S

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THEY'RE INVALID, SO IF I MIGHT ADD JUST A VERY SMALL PORTION OF WHAT? JUST THAT THIS THESE AMENDMENTS. DO ADDRESS NOTICE IN TWO DIFFERENT CAPACITIES, ONE THAT GOT DELIVERY NOTICE. STAFF HAS BEEN DOING THAT AS A MATTER OF FORM, BUT IT'S NOT STATUTORY OR ORDINARILY REQUIRED. AND SO THAT'S NOT PART OF IN SUBSECTION B. THAT GOD DELIVERY NOTICE WILL BE REQUIRED. SO AGAIN. ANY HLS OR ANYONE WHO SIGNED UP WOULD RECEIVE THAT. IN ADDITION, SUBSECTION C NOW REQUIRES A PHYSICAL SIGNS BE POSTED ON SITE AS WELL. SO NOTICE IS BEING INCREASED HERE IN TWO DIFFERENT FACTORS FOR JULIAN PHYSICALLY. CAN WE VOTE ON THOSE AMENDMENTS FIRST AND THEN GET BACK TO ANY CHANGES. I JUST DON'T WANT TO. WE. GO AHEAD. IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A LOSING BATTLE. THANK YOU.

OKAY SO WE HAVE THE AMENDMENTS ON THE FLOOR. DID YOU? DOES ANYONE NEED TO BE REMINDED WITH THOSE AMENDMENTS ARE BEFORE WE GO FORWARD. OKAY? OKAY? OKAY? AROUND DO YOU? COUNCILMAN RENO WEBER FIRST HIS AMENDMENT CHANGING THE 30 DAYS TO 60 DAYS. RIGHT? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF COUNCILMAN RENAL WEBER'S AMENDMENTS SIGNIFY BY SAYING I WAS OPPOSED BY LIKE SCIENCE SEEN NOW WE'RE READY FOR COUNTS. PRESIDENT WINKLER'S BIG AMENDMENT. IN FAVOR OF COUNCILMAN WINKLER. PRESIDENT WINKLER'S AMENDMENTS SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE. ALRIGHT I LIKE SAYING HARRY NONE. THE MOTION PASSES. NOW WE HAVE THE WHOLE AMENDMENT ORDINANCE IN FRONT OF US. COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL. UM AGAIN. THANK YOU, PRESIDENT WINKLER FOR, UM KIND OF BRINGING THIS TO LIGHT AND GIVING US AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT LANDMARKING BECAUSE I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. AND BEFORE I HAD TALKED ABOUT A LIST THAT IT IDENTIFIED SOMETHING LIKE 443 PROPERTIES AMONG AROUND LEVEL METRO THAT HAD BEEN IDENTIFIED AS POTENTIAL LANDMARKS, BUT HAD NOT GOTTEN THAT DESIGNATION. AND, UM I LEARNED THAT PART OF THE LAND MARKING PROCESS THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE THE FEES OR THE SIGNATURES WOULD BE RESOLUTIONS THROUGH METRO COUNCIL. AND SO, UM, I'VE BEEN LOOKING THROUGH THIS LIST AND I'M GOING TO CIRCULATE IT WITH MY COLLEAGUES BECAUSE WE ALSO NEED A LITTLE HELP. IT'S NOT, UM IT WAS WRITTEN BEFORE REDISTRICTING, SO SOME OF THE LANDMARKS MIGHT FALL INTO DIFFERENT DISTRICTS. BUT FROM THAT LIST I'VE IDENTIFIED 22 PLACES WITHIN DISTRICT 15 THAT I WILL BE MOVING FORWARD WITH INDIVIDUAL RESOLUTIONS TO LANDMARK BECAUSE I THINK IT IS VERY IMPORTANT. AND, UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT BECAUSE WHILE THAT DOES NOT HINGE ON THIS, UM. ANY WHICH WAY I VOTE ON WHAT IS IN FRONT OF US RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF THIS ORDINANCE, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO SHARE BECAUSE, UM A LOT OF MY ISSUES WITH THIS ORDINANCE OR JUST WITH COMMUNICATION AND TRANSPARENCY IN THE PROCESS. UM, NOT NECESSARILY WITH THE ORDINANCE BEFORE US ITSELF. SO, UM I THINK THAT. GIVING PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UM BE PROACTIVE INSTEAD OF REACTIVE IS VERY IMPORTANT HERE, SO I JUST WANT TO URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO BE PROACTIVE IN LANDMARKING. SO HOPEFULLY, THIS WOULD BE ELIMINATED. BUT THEN YOU HAVE A QUESTION. COUNCILMAN REED. BUT THIS IS A DIRECTED TO COUNCILMAN CHAPEL SEEKER. WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DIRECT THE LANDMARKS COMMISSION

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YES. AND I'M SURE YOU HAVE EIGHT. YES, THAT'S AND THIS WILL GO TO OUR BUSINESS THAT OUR NEXT MEETING MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, WHICH IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTIONS 32.250 TO 32.2 62 63, THE LANDMARKS ORDINANCE OF THE LOCAL JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO CODE OF ORDINANCES AS AMENDED IS THE MOTION FOR A TABLE NG PROBABLY MEANT BY COUNCILOR BASH ON SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN BAKER. WE'RE READY FOR DISCUSSION. COUNCILMAN PRESIDENT WINKER. YES TRAVIS.

REMIND ME. IS THERE A SUBSTITUTE FOR THIS AS WELL? WHAT WAS THAT ALL ENCOMPASSING FIRST ONE? NO I BELIEVE. I DON'T BELIEVE THERE ARE ANY CHANGES MADE TO THIS ONE. AND I APOLOGIZE. I MUST SPOKE JUST A MINUTE AGO. THIS IS WHERE THE CHANGES THE HEALTH COUNCIL INITIATES THE PETITION.

IT'S LOOKING IN THE LANDMARK COMMITMENT TO DEVELOPMENT. IN ANY CASE, I THINK EVERYTHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THERE HAS BEEN CAPTURED IN THE LAST COMMITTEE WHEN WE VOTED ON AND SO, THIS COLLEAGUES, THIS IS BASICALLY JUST THE CORRESPONDING LEGISLATION TO THE FIRST ONE DEMO ORDINANCE AND LANDMARKING ORDINANCE ARE DIRECTLY TIED TO EACH OTHER. AND SO THIS KEEPS THEM IN SYNC SO I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT. ANY QUESTIONS? SEE NONE. ALL THOSE EXCUSE ME OPEN THE MOMENT, COUNCIL MEMBER READ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER ARENA, WEBER.

MADAM CHAIR. YOU HAVE EIGHT. YES. VOTES THANK YOU. AND THIS WILL GO TO, UM, OLD BUSINESS AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. GIVE GIVE YOU A FEW SECONDS TO I'M SORRY THAT YOU'RE EXCITED, OKAY? ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS AN ORGANIST, CREATING A NEW CHAPTER OF THE LOUISVILLE JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO CODE OF ORDINANCES. LMC OH, PROTECTING COMMUNITIES IN LOCAL AND LOCAL METRO. FROM DIRECT INTERACTION, CULTURAL DISPLACEMENT TO BE KNOWN AS THE ANTI DISPLACEMENT LAW AND THE MENDING L M. C. 0 92.15 AS AMENDED, AND THIS WAS TABLED, SAW THEM AUCTION IS TO UNTIE TABLE. PROPERLY MADE BY COUNCILMAN BAKER AND SECONDED BY

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COUNCILMAN AMENDMENT WILL BE ON PAGE SEVEN. THE DEFINITION OF METRO RESOURCES. WITH NO LONGER INCLUDE THE WORDS BUT NOT LIMITED TO. THAT WAS QUESTION AROUND WHO WOULD INTERPRET WHAT RESOURCES GET ADDED BETWEEN THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, THE COMMISSION, THE COUNCIL AND SO FORTH TO MAKE IT CLEAR THIS LIST IN THE LEGISLATION WOULD BE FINAL AND WHAT YOU HAVE IN THE SYSTEM, WHICH STRIKE THE WORDS BUT NOT LIMITED TO. WE HAVE EMOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? CAN YOU GO OVER? WOULD YOU REPEAT WHERE THAT WAS THAT PLEASE? I'M TRYING TO FIND IT. YES, IT SHOULD BE ON PAGE SEVEN. TOWARDS THE BOTTOM THE DEFINITION OF METRO RESOURCES. AND IT SHOULD BE IN RED. WHICH STRIKE THE WORDS BUT NOT LIMITED. TO SO THE LIST OF METRO RESOURCES AND THE DEFINITION IS THE FINAL LIST. I'M SORRY, MAN. COPIES NOT IN RED. SO IT SHOULD BE THE FIRST ATTACHMENT WITH THE LEGISLATION. ITEM EIGHT. I HAD A PRINTED ONE FROM FROM LAST TIME. I'M SORRY, OKAY? OKAY. WHERE'S PROPERLY MOVED IN SECOND. OTHERS IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE. THANKS. THAT WAS OPPOSED BY LIKE SIGN. SAYING THAT THE MOTION PASSES GO AHEAD.

THE NEXT ONE IS ON PAGE 10. SECTION TWO AND THIS IS NEW, SO THERE MIGHT BE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, BUT WE DIDN'T DISCUSS IT IN THE LAST COMMITTEE. THE OFFICE OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WILL NOT ONLY WORK WITH THE ACADEMIC INSTITUTION ON CREATING THE DISPLACEMENT ASSESSMENT, BUT ALSO RESULTS MATRIX, SO IT'S CLEAR WHICH PROJECTS ARE ELIGIBLE OR INELIGIBLE FOR METRO RESOURCES. YOU'LL ALSO NOTE THAT THROUGHOUT THE LEGISLATION THAT LANGUAGE THAT TALKS ABOUT WHO FAILS AND WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THEY FELL, IT'S TAKEN OUT BECAUSE OF THE RESULTS MATRIX AND WE ALSO ADDED THE PART ABOUT THAT PRESENTATION BEING DEMOED WITH METRO COUNCIL BEING APPROVED BY METRO COUNCIL, SO WE KNOW EXACTLY THE MATERIALS THAT ARE BEING USED BEFORE THEY GET USED. PROBABLY MADE BY COUNCILMAN BAKER'S SECOND ABOUT COUNCILMAN MARIE WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT AMENDMENT? ALTHOUGH SOME FAVORITE SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE. I WAS OPPOSED BY LIKE SCIENCE SEEN IN THE MOTION CARRIES GO AHEAD. THE NEXT ONE IS ON PAGE 11 GOING INTO PAGE 12. THIS IS ALSO NEW, BUT IT'S A MATTER OF TRANSPARENCY, MAKING SURE THAT ALL OF THE RESULTS REGARDLESS OF HOW THEY COME BACK, AS FAR AS WHAT THEY GET ON THE MATRIX. ALL OF THE RESULTS ARE ATTACHED TO LEGISLATION RELATING TO THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS SUBJECT TO THE DISPLACEMENT ASSESSMENT. SO WHEN WE VOTE ON SOMETHING, WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON AS FAR AS HOW TO IMPACT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE AROUND IT. PROBABLY MAY HAVE DONE SECOND. WE'RE ANY ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MEMORY AND QUESTIONS. I WAS IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENTS SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE. I BUY LIKE SIGN HARRINGTON. THE MOTION PASSES GO AHEAD AND LAST, BUT NOT LEAST ON PAGE 14

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THANK YOU AND COLLEAGUES AND COMFORT, ARTHUR. YOU KNOW EVERYBODY AN APOLOGY FOR NOT HAVING HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEND US OUT PRIOR. UM BUT BEEN EMAILING BACK AND FORTH AND TOWNSMAN ARTHUR AND IN FAIRNESS AND SEND IT TO HIM ONLY A FEW MINUTES BEFORE. YOU KNOW, I HAD A CHANCE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT LAST WEEK, BUT I DO HAVE A PROPOSAL FOR AN ALTERNATIVE, BUT I JUST WANT TO THROW UP FOR DISCUSSION. COUNSELOR LOVE TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK SPECIFICALLY, THAT REALLY SIMPLIFIES THIS BECAUSE I THINK MOST OF NOT ALL OF US AGREE THAT WE SHOULD NOT AS A GENERAL RULE, UM BE INCENTIVIZING PROJECTS THAT DISPLACED PEOPLE. HOWEVER I THINK THE DECISION SHOULD REST WITH THIS BODY. AND SO THE AMENDED BY SUBSTITUTION, UM I'M NOT ENTERING. I'M NOT ASKING, BUT I REALLY JUST WANT TO THROW OUT FOR DISCUSSION BASICALLY SIMPLIFIES THE PROCESS KEEPS THE GENERAL DEFINITION AROUND DEFINING THE DISPLACEMENT ASSESSMENT, BUT RATHER THAN IT MAKING ANY PROJECT, ELIGIBLE OR INELIGIBLE THE DISPLACEMENT ASSESSMENT IS DONE. IT IS APPENDED TO ANY LEGISLATION WHERE WE'RE INCENTIVIZING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND THEN WE AS A BODY SHOULD CONSIDER THAT BEFORE WE APPROVE THE INCENTIVE, BUT IT KEEPS THE RESPONSIBILITY WITH US. UH UM. AND YOU KNOW, WE BASICALLY WOULD SUBSEQUENTLY VOTE ON INCENTIVES SORT OF FULLY INFORMED OF THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS AROUND DISPLACEMENT. THEY DECIDE IT'S STILL A GOOD IDEA TO GO FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT MAY DECIDE IT'S A BAD IDEA AND NOT LOOK FORWARD. THE PROJECT MAY FIND AN ALTERNATIVE, BUT WE SHOULD MAKE THAT DECISION. I EQUATED SIMILARLY TO WHEN WE REQUEST A IF WE'RE MAKING A BUDGETARY GENERAL CONSIDERING AN AMENDMENT THAT COULD HAVE A BUDGETARY IMPACT, WE CAN REQUEST A FISCAL IMPACT STATEMENT. UM AND THEN THAT GETS APPENDED TO THE LEGISLATION. SO WE UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH WE'RE DOING IS GOING TO COST. UM THIS TO ME IS SORT OF EQUATE THIS IN THE PROCESS EXCEPT FOR RATHER THAN A COUNCIL MEMBER HAVING TO REQUEST IT AND WE VOTE ON THE IMPACT STATEMENT, THIS WOULD AUTOMATICALLY HAPPENS FOR ANY LEGISLATION WHERE WE'RE OFFERING INCENTIVES TO RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT'S IT IN A NUTSHELL, UM AND JUST THROW IT OUT THERE FOR FOOD COUPON. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I AM OPPOSED TO ANY FURTHER AMENDMENTS, ESPECIALLY THE ONE THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU RIGHT NOW. IF YOU LOOK AT THE ACTUAL WRITTEN LEGISLATION THE WAY IT WAS JUST CHARACTERIZED AS MISLEING. IT WOULDN'T AUTOMATICALLY MAKE THESE INCENTIVES GO THROUGH WITH THIS PLACEMENT ASSESSMENT. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DISPLACEMENT ASSESSMENT LANGUAGE, IT SAYS THAT IT MAY GO THROUGH AN ASSESSMENT. IT SAYS THAT THE OFFICER, HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT MAY REQUIRE IT OF DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS. THESE ARE MERELY SUGGESTIONS TO THE POINT WHERE THIS I SUPPOSE IT AMENDED ORDINANCE MIGHT AS WELL BE A RESOLUTION. I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THAT. SO I DO NOT SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT AND I ASKED FOR YOU TO VOTE AGAINST IT. CHAIRMAN OF RESPOND. YES YOU MAY BECAUSE I HAVEN'T EVEN HAD A CHANCE. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'M SEEING THIS. YES SORRY. AND SO COSMONAUTS TO YOUR POINT WAS, I ACTUALLY RAISED THAT EXACT CONCERN TO FLORA FERGUSON BECAUSE I HAD THAT SAME RESPONSE. RIGHT? UM AND I DON'T KNOW, LAURA, IF YOU CAN. IS SHE IN THE ROOM THAT SHE CAN CLARIFY WHY IT SAYS MY BECAUSE I ASKED FOR THAT SPECIFIC CHANGES. IT'S ACTUALLY NOT NEEDED SO CORRECT.

LORD FERGUSON, ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY. HOW IT WAS WRITTEN WAS UM IN B. IF THERE'S ANY ORDINANCE, A RESOLUTION RELATES TO DEVELOPMENT THAT MAYBE UNDERGO DISPLACEMENT ASSESS MINISTER 4TH AND 1 16 HOURS, STEP THREE. IT SHALL BE REQUIRED . THE MAY WAS IF THE ADMINISTRATION OR THE OFFICE OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WANTED TO DO IT PROACTIVELY OR DO IT FOR SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY GO REQUIRE METRO COUNCIL APPROVAL. YES SO THERE, SO THERE IS A SHOWER FOR ANYONE DOWN AND BE IT IS A REQUIREMENT.

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THOUGHTS OR. YES I DON'T LEAVE IT. SORRY. I DON'T KNOW THAT WAS DIRECTED TO ME, MADAM CHAIR. UM COUNCIL MEMBER RASHAD HAD HIS HAND UP AND THEN COUNCILMAN I MEAN, PRESIDENT WINKLER. UM YEAH , I'M LOOKING AT THIS AND DOES THIS IT WASN'T A DOCUMENT SEE ANYWHERE ABOUT UM, WHERE? IN THE ORDINANCE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING THAT HAS THE COMMUNITY COMPONENT WHERE THE COMMUNITY IS INVOLVED IN DECISIONS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD LOCALIZED CONTROL THAT ITS FINEST UM, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S BEEN COMPLETELY ELIMINATED FROM THIS COPY IS AND MY JUST OVERLOOKING THAT, OR AM I JUST READING THIS THING TOO FAST? MANAGER PRESIDENT WINKLER, PLEASE. YEAH YOU'RE YOU'RE NOT OVERLOOKING IT. IT HAS BEEN ELIMINATED BECAUSE I THINK THE ULTIMATE DECISION. UH LIKE I PERSONALLY. FINE LIKE IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY, DECIDE WHETHER THE PROJECT SHOULD MOVE FORWARD OR NOT, AND ABDICATING THAT RESPONSIBILITY TO ANOTHER BOARD. I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE.

IT'S JUST MY OPINION, BUT THAT'S WHY THAT'S BEEN ELIMINATED. ARTHUR. THANK YOU. THE DECISION DOESN'T FALL FOR ANOTHER BOARD METRO COUNCIL IS STILL INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS IF IT GOES THROUGH THE ADMINISTRATION, AND IT EVENTUALLY COMES HERE IF YOU LOOK AT OUR AMENDMENTS AND YOU LOOK AT THE LEGISLATION FROM THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS WE'VE BEEN DEBATING IT. THE DECISION IS REALLY MADE THROUGH THAT ASSESSMENT PROCESS. AND THEN THE RESULTS. MATRIX WOULD ADD SOME EXTRA NUANCE AND CONTEXT TO IT. WE'RE NOT JUST TURNING OVER OUR VOTING POWER. TO THE ANTI DISPLACEMENT COMMISSION. I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THAT. AND THERE'S NOTHING IN OUR LEGISLATION THAT SAYS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER ARENA, WEBER. I JUST WANT TO COMMEND COUNCILMAN ARE THERE FOR THE REALLY PUSHING THIS FORWARD, AND I THINK THAT THE WAY THAT THIS BODY IS ENGAGING WITH THIS WITH REAL SERIOUSNESS AND TRYING TO REALLY FULLY UNDERSTAND HOW DO WE EMPOWER BOTH COMMUNITY VOICE AND UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT OF OUR ACTIONS IS EXACTLY HOW THIS LEGISLATIVE PROCESS SHOULD WORK ALSO WANT TO COMPLIMENT THE FOLKS THAT HAVE CONTINUED TO SHOW UP WEEK AFTER WEEK AND ADVOCATE ON BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITY. SO THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE KNOW THAT YOUR VOICES ARE REALLY BEING HURT. AH I SHARE THE CONCERN THAT I WANT TO BE SURE THAT PART OF THIS PROCESS. I REALLY DO LIKE THE SIMPLIFICATION OF THIS.

I AM CONCERNED BY THE COMPLEXITY OF THIS LEGISLATION. BECAUSE I THINK THAT WILL MAKE IT MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO GET PAST BEFORE COUNCIL. I THINK THERE'S JUST SO I THINK THAT IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO TAKE THE SPIRIT OF THIS AMENDMENT, WHICH IS SIMPLIFYING TO A PROCESS THAT PEOPLE READILY UNDERSTAND, WHICH IS THE THAT FINANCIAL IMPACT AND SAY DISPLACEMENT IMPACT. I LIKE THAT PIECE. I'M GOING TO BE SURE WE DO NOT LOSE THE COMMUNITY VOICES PIECE OF THIS, SO I THINK THAT'S PART OF WHAT I'M AM WANT TO CONTINUE THAT CONVERSATION SO THAT WE ADDRESS THE REAL CONCERNS THAT MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE RAISED THAT MAKE ME CONCERNED ABOUT OUR ABILITY TO BE SUCCESSFUL AROUND OUR SHARED GOAL OF REALLY UNDERSTANDING THE POTENTIAL DISPLACEMENT IMPACT OF OUR SUBSIDIES. SO THAT'S ALL. COUNCIL MEMBER, ARTHUR. IF IT'S OKAY WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. MAYBE WE COULD JUST HAVE A CLEAN VERSION OF IT GO TO COUNCIL KNOWN AS A LOT OF UNDERLINES AND STRIKETHROUGH AND WHATNOT, BUT WE CAN GET A CLEAN VERSION JUST TO MAKE IT CRYSTAL CLEAR. EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. WE CAN ALSO WORK ON A POLICY BRIEF SO FOLKS CAN OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. PRESIDENT WINKLER. YES, I JUST WANTED TO RESPOND TO, UM HE WAS COUNSELING. ARTHURS POINT ABOUT THE BOARD AND THE ASSESSMENT, RIGHT AND MY FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM IS THAT THE WAY THE ORDINANCES WRITTEN TODAY IS ESSENTIALLY IF.

PROJECT LIKE BASICALLY, IT RESTRICTS OUR INVOLVEMENT TO ONLY PROJECTS WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S THE RIGHT ANSWER. OKAY AND I THINK AGAIN, LEAVING THAT OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO DECIDE AS PROJECTS COME UP MAKES THE MOST SENSE. UM SO I KNOW. YOU SAID THE BOARD DOESN'T DECIDE. BUT THE BOARD DOES DECIDE BECAUSE THE DISPLACEMENT ASSESSMENT IS WHAT DECIDES WHETHER OR NOT THE PROJECT SHALL MOVE FORWARD IN THIS CASE. WE MANDATE THE ASSESSMENT. AND IT IS PART OF THE RECORDS FOR US TO MAKE THE DECISION AND I JUST THINK THAT TO ME IS THE BETTER WAY TO ADDRESS THIS. AND AGAIN WANNA APOLOGIZE TO EVERYONE FOR NOT

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YOUR CONCERNS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED. WE GET TO SEE A DEMO OF THE DISPLACEMENT ASSESSMENT AND THE RESULTS MATRIX AND WE GET TO APPROVE IT. IF WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. WE CAN TALK ABOUT A MINUTE LATER BUT WERE NOT REMOVED FROM THE PROCESS WHATSOEVER AGAIN. WE GET TO SEE IT AND APPROVE IT BEFORE IT GETS USED BY DEVELOPED LOUISVILLE OR WHATEVER THEY'RE CALLED NOW AND BEFORE IT GETS CONSIDERED BY THE COMMISSION AS WELL. PRESIDENT WINKLER. YEAH I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT DIFFERENCE, THOUGH. WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING CAMERA COUNTING AUTHORS WE GET TO SEE AND VOTE ON WHAT THE ASSESSMENT IS OKAY, BUT FAST FORWARD TO SIX MONTHS FROM NOW AND YOU HAVE A PROJECT. WE HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM DECISION MAKING PROCESS. AT THAT POINT, IT IS THEN SUBJECT TO THE ASSESSMENT EXCLUSIVELY. AND WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS DO THE ASSESSMENT. AND THEN HAVE US VOTE ON THE PROJECT. INCORRECT ASSESSMENT AGAIN. WE ADDED SOMETHING TODAY TO HAVE A RESULT MATRIX THAT WILL HAVE A NUANCED APPROACH. IT'S NO LONGER USING THE PAST FELL LANGUAGE THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. THAT LANGUAGE IS NOW GONE. THE RESULTS MATRIX. IS A SUGGESTION ACTUALLY FROM JEFF O'BRIEN, WHO SAID HE DOES BELIEVE THAT SOME PROJECTS SHOULD BE INELIGIBLE.

AND I WOULD BET I'M UNSURE WHICH ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE BEEN A PART OF THE YOU KNOW, TAX INCREMENT FINANCING PROCESS OR INDUSTRIAL REVENUE BONDS PROCESS. BUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ALREADY HAS CRITERIA AND PROCESS THAT THEY USE WHERE THEY ALREADY DECIDE IF SOMETHING'S NOT WORTH BRINGING TO COUNSEL OR NOT, THAT WERE ALREADY NOT A PART OF WE'RE SIMPLY TRYING TO MAKE THE PROCESS MORE INTENTIONAL. AND MORE TRANSPARENT SO THAT WHEN PROJECTS DO COME TO COUNCIL, WE HAVE THAT NOTIFICATION ATTACHED TO IT, AND WE'RE CLEAR ON WHAT PROJECTS WOULDN'T COME OUR WAY. BUT AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE RESULTS MATRIX PRIOR TO IT BEING USED, AND IF WE WANT TO CHANGE IT, WE ARE ALLOWED TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES. PRESIDENT WINKLER'S RESPONSE. SO THE COUNCIL CAN YOU CLARIFY THEN IN WITH THESE AMENDMENTS THAT YOU'VE MADE? WHAT ROLE DOES THE COMMISSION PLAY? ABSOLUTELY AND JUST FOR EVERYONE'S SAKE. FOLLOW ALONG WITH ME. THAT SHOWS THE PURPOSE OF THE ANTI DISPLACEMENT COMMISSION. WHICH YOUR AMENDMENT ALSO COMPLETELY GUTS. IF YOU GO TO THE BOTTOM OF PAGE 12 FOR THE C A. M AND THE AND THE ACTUAL SYSTEM. THE COMMISSION IS PURE PERIODICALLY REVIEWING THE DISPLACEMENT PROGRAM. THEY'RE REVIEWING THAT PROCESS ALONG WITH THE ADMINISTRATION, SO IT'S NOT SOLELY ON THE ADMINISTRATION IS NOT SOLELY ON US. WE'RE BRINGING THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN HARMED BY DISPLACEMENT ALONG IN THIS PROCESS BECAUSE AGAIN LIKE I SAID LAST COMMITTEE WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO GET TAX INCREMENT FINANCING INDUSTRIAL REVENUE BONDS, THESE PUBLIC BENEFITS THE PUBLIC IS LARGELY LEFT OUT OF THE CONVERSATION. IT'S A CONVERSATION BETWEEN THE MAYOR'S ADMINISTRATION AND DEVELOPERS. THEN IT COMES TO METRO COUNCIL. HELL EVEN IN THIS COMMITTEE, YOU ALL TALKED ABOUT PUBLIC HEARINGS IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING PROCESS THAT DOES INCLUDE THE PUBLIC. WHEN WE DO PUBLIC BENEFITS, LAND RESOURCES AND WHATNOT. THE PUBLIC IS M I A SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS PLACEMENT, IT'S IMPORTANT TO CENTER. THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HARMED BY IT. BUT GOING TO THE BOTTOM OF PAGE 12. YOU SEE THAT THEY GET TO REVIEW THE PROJECTS. THEY GET TO REVIEW HOW THAT ASSESSMENT IS WORKING. BE THE NEWBIE. THEY'RE LOOKING AT RESULTS FROM THE HUMANS RELATIONS COMMISSION AS FAR AS DISCRIMINATORY PRACTICES AND METRO, WHICH IS NOT INCLUDED IN IN YOUR AMENDMENT WHATSOEVER, THAT'S COMPLETELY GUTTED. AND THEN YOU ALSO SEE SEE THEY OFFER REMEDIES AND RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON SOME OF THOSE PAST HARMS. CONTINUING ON AND WE ADDED THIS LAST COMMITTEE, THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE LOUISVILLE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND AND THE OFFICE OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. ON THE HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT THAT'S UPDATED EVERY FIVE YEARS. SO AFTER THAT, YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE CRITERIA FOR THE COMMISSION. BUT THE PURPOSE IS LAID OUT AT THE BOTTOM OF PAGE 12 INTO PAGE 13 AND RIGHT AT THE TOP OF PAGE 14. COUNCILMAN COUNCILMAN CHAPEL. SURE I THINK THE CAPTURE SOME OF THE CHATTER THAT WAS GOING ON OVER HERE. UM AND WE HAVE TO HEAR THIS, I THINK AND GET IT

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I'M MORE THAN WILLING TO WORK WITH OUR PRESIDENT ON THIS, BUT NOT IN THIS WAY. YOU CAN'T JUST PULL SOMETHING OUT OF A HAT LAST MINUTE AND EXPECT US TO THANK US THAT YOU THE WORST SITUATION.

LET'S WORK TOGETHER ON IT, BUT NOT LAST MINUTE LIKE THIS. I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE COUNT ARE CLARK GO AHEAD, SONIA. UM I JUST WANTED TO MAKE IT CLEAR NOT ONLY IF, UM IF IT WERE TO GO TO COUNCIL NEXT WEEK, IF YOU ALL COULD NOT RESOLVE YOUR DIFFERENCES IF IT GOT RECOMMITTED BACK TO THE COMMITTEE AGAIN, IT WOULD START THAT SIX MONTHS AGAIN. SO IT'S EITHER REINTRODUCED TRY TO GET IT PASSED ON THURSDAY OR RECOMMITTED. THERE ARE THREE OPTIONS. I'LL COME BACK WITH A CLEAN VERSION. AND RECOMMITTED TO COMMITTEE. THANK YOU. YOU WANTED TO BE HELD HERE. NO. YEP. OKAY? COUNCILMAN RENO WEBER, NOT OF THE FERTILE COUNSELOR BAKER.

THANK YOU, COUNCILOR ARTHUR. I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU, COUNCILOR AUTHOR. WE NEED TO HAVE THIS ONGOING DISCUSSION, AND I CALLED THE QUESTION. IT'S NOT A. DO YOU WANT TO TABLE? IT?

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[Adjournment Note: Agendas are followed at the discretion of the Chair. While an item may be listed, it does not mean all items will be heard and/or acted upon by the Committee.]